WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:03.839 Hello, Hello, Welcome to another episode. 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:07.879 I'm Ben and I'm Nicole and you're listening to Wicked and. 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:17.120 Grim, a true crime podcast. Warning. The following podcast material 4 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:41.159 intended for a mature audience listener discretion. Welcome back. Hello, Hello, 5 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.200 I've got my coffee and I'm comfy. This time, my 6 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.280 back doesn't hurt so much. 7 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:45.320 Did you hear that? 8 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:46.799 What you have? 9 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:48.320 Coffee and not alcohol? 10 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:49.119 I know, right? 11 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:49.799 Well done? 12 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:51.640 Well I thrive on one or the other. 13 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.000 Well done, Ben, Thank you. 14 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:55.560 I'm proud of myself. 15 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:57.399 And I'm drinking water. Look at that. 16 00:00:57.840 --> 00:00:59.479 Are we adulting today? 17 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:00.439 Ye? Good? 18 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:01.520 Being really good. 19 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:03.000 I don't drink coffee so. 20 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.280 Which I think you need to because you are way 21 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:07.560 too tired most of the time. 22 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.040 I feel like, sometimes I really need to drink coffee, 23 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:10.920 but it tastes like shit. 24 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.359 I've I love the taste of coffee. I just I 25 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:17.040 never really liked it because it always messed with my stomach. 26 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.680 I've gotten over that. Though I don't necessarily drink coffee, 27 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:23.640 sometimes I do. I have to drink a lot to 28 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.719 make sure I drink it to keep me awake. But 29 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:34.640 I drink coffee because it's like a ritualistic thingification. 30 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.640 There's my phot I'm turning that off. 31 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.400 I'll turn that off. But it's it's like a ritualistic thing, 32 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.239 like wake up in the morning. It's that like nice, 33 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:39.599 warm hug, feel good thing. 34 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.680 Well, having just a warm beverage is really nice. 35 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.920 Yeah, well, yeah, exactly, it's just my warm beverage of 36 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:46.920 choice is coffee. 37 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.599 I could have tea because I think like green tea 38 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.959 is caffeinated. But honestly, like when I do have caffeine, 39 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.599 because I've had some coffee drinks theft, I don't feel 40 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.000 like it makes me more awake. 41 00:01:57.640 --> 00:01:59.640 Well, there's not a lot of caffeine it maybe Okay, 42 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.599 you've had energy drinks before. That sure makes you like 43 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:04.480 awaken a lern yeah, but not. 44 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:05.920 Even that much anymore. I don't know. 45 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.680 Yeah, we're getting old. It's hard, hard to get into system. 46 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:09.879 I'm just never going to be awake. 47 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:11.520 This is just me for the way it's fired for 48 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.520 the rest of our lives. Oh that is that is sad. 49 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:16.439 We think about. 50 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:22.319 Yeah, we're only thirty and we're already bitching. God. Okay, 51 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.319 I'm super pumped, me too. Do you know why not necessarily? 52 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:26.599 Well? 53 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.560 The episode Yeah, okay, before we get into that though. 54 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.159 Okay, yeah, tell us my notes. 55 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.960 I'm not doing paper. Although I've always been old school, 56 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:36.560 I'm writing my notes on paper, and I still do 57 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:41.039 notebooks and stuff. However, today I'm going digital. I discovered, 58 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:44.000 thanks to you, that I had a tablet in my 59 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.759 nightstand that I didn't even really know about. So I've 60 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:48.840 got all my notes on a tablet today. So no 61 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:52.120 paper turning, no, nothing like that. I just scroll, am 62 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:52.680 good to go. 63 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.639 No, that's really fancy, But it's also really weird that 64 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:57.560 I had to tell you that you had a tablet. 65 00:02:57.800 --> 00:02:59.599 Yeah, I mean, well, when was the last time I 66 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:00.319 used this thing? 67 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.319 I don't know. It was lost for the longest period 68 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.000 of time because it was in the middle console. 69 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.680 Of your truck, my center console. It was just like 70 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.360 taken by the void. But yeah, I found it. The 71 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.000 only time I think I've ever used this was for 72 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.520 Netflix when like I'm on the airport. That's the only 73 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.400 time of usday because we got it for free signing up. 74 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.800 Of the contract. Yeah yeah, but you look real fancy. 75 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.439 Look fancy, I got my my my coffee in one hand, 76 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:24.439 my tablet in the other. 77 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:25.360 Look at us. 78 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:31.919 But we're gonna be talking a real complicated story. Today, 79 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.360 we gave everyone on Instagram who follows us a bit 80 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:36.599 of a heads up. 81 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.039 A sneaky piece, sneaky peek. 82 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:43.159 We took a screencap from the CCTV footage of Elisa 83 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.680 Lamb and everyone immediately knew that what this case was. 84 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.240 Well, thanks to Netflix, I feel well it. 85 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.120 Netflix has brought another another set of eyes onto this 86 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.199 for sure, but a Lisa Lamb. The case of Alisa 87 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:58.759 Lamb has been like notorious online. It's a very well 88 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.199 known case prior to Netflix. But the Netflix series Crime 89 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.599 Scene the Vanishing of Cecil Hotel, a vanishing at Cecil Hotel, 90 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:06.080 that's made it. 91 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.680 A little bit more. Honestly, before that, I didn't even know. 92 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:10.479 I had never heard of it. Before that. 93 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.879 I have heard of the case when we when we 94 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.480 turned on the episode and we were like, I recognize 95 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.120 the name Cecil Hotel immediately, but I couldn't couldn't place it. 96 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.920 And then like two minutes in, I'm like, wait, is 97 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:24.439 this is this a lease a Lamb? And then yeah, 98 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.879 boom right away Yeah, I'm like, okay, I know what 99 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:28.040 we're in for because. 100 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:29.560 Where was she from? Again? Was she from BC? 101 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:30.759 Yeah, she's from Vancouver. 102 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.600 Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. 103 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:37.439 So it's it's she's a Vancouver resident, but the crime 104 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:41.160 or incident took place in the States however. 105 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.360 Okay, right, yes, yes, Ripley, what do you want? She 106 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:46.959 needs something? 107 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.399 She needs something, Ripley. You should go lay down, you 108 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.720 should go lay down, go down. Okay, she's actually going 109 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:54.439 to be she's going to behave I. 110 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:56.000 Like how we were just like this is going to go 111 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.439 one way or the other, and it went the right way. 112 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:04.240 Okay, so let's go right into this. So Lisa Lamb 113 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.600 was also known by her Cantonese Cantonese name Oh maybe 114 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.920 I'm going to be like you and oh no Lamb 115 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:13.680 ho yee. I believe that's how you pronounced that. She 116 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:18.199 was born April thirtieth, nineteen ninety one. Her immigrant family, 117 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:21.160 they immigrated into Canada, so she was born in Canada. 118 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.079 Okay, I didn't realize she was younger than us. Oh yeah, 119 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:25.600 oh man, okay. 120 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.800 And like her family actually like they lived in Burnaby area, 121 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:31.879 and they opened a restaurant in Burnaby and that restaurant 122 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.360 is still actually there. It's called Paul's Restaurant. 123 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.279 Okay restaurant, and everything ran by them. 124 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:37.639 Yep. 125 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:38.759 Oh, I wish it go. 126 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.480 That would be cool, But I imagine that family has had 127 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:44.759 a lot of people use it as like an attraction 128 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:45.959 thing because of this case. 129 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.199 My thought to go was only to support them, because like, yeah, 130 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:52.120 like they're still I don't know having a restaurant, like 131 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:54.639 having something like this happened to their family could have 132 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.360 made that shut down and be destroyed exactly. 133 00:05:57.839 --> 00:05:59.720 Like when this did happen, there was like they were 134 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.560 like so many people going there, like not bothering them. 135 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:05.560 At the restaurant, they were leaving flowers in the doorstep, 136 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.839 but like it was like a memorial on the sidewalk 137 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:10.360 in front of the restaurant, which is super nice. But 138 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:12.800 I just I imagine there's some people treating this almost 139 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.879 like a tourist attraction because of this case. So if 140 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.959 anyone out there is ever going to go to their restaurant, 141 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:22.759 I'm gonna please ask that you respect them, like go 142 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.639 to the restaurant, support the restaurant. But I wouldn't bother them. 143 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:28.439 I'm sure they've dealt with a lot with this cash. 144 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.759 Yeah yeah, so yeah, we would like to go one day, 145 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.759 but we're just gonna support the restaurant exactly. So anyways, 146 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:37.800 if you haven't watched the Netflix series, you guys got 147 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:43.720 to watch that. But you're gonna listen to us first. 148 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.959 The deats from US first, exactly. So. 149 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.360 Lisa was a student at University Hills Secondary School when 150 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.920 she was younger, and then eventually she went to University 151 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.360 of British Columbia. We all know that university, especially up 152 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.800 here in British Columbia. She loved fashion and writing and 153 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:58.920 it all came together in her online blog like this 154 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.040 online world that you in. She had a blog bought 155 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:05.079 account called ether Fields where you can find her writing 156 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:10.720 and Tumblr account also known as Novelle Nouveau, which nouvelle 157 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.800 means trendy and nouveau means like newly arrived or developed. 158 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.000 Okay, she had a big online. 159 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:19.199 Presence, oh major. Yeah, yeah, well she definitely does now 160 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:20.600 because her accounts are still up. 161 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:21.800 Right, which is really cool. 162 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.240 Actually, yeah, so, I actually have a couple of quotes 163 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.000 that I'm going to go through with this from her account, 164 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:28.000 and I'm going to link her accounts below so you 165 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.560 people can go check them out as well. She did 166 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.600 prefer Tumblr, though she was more active on there and 167 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:37.199 posted lots of like including memes, clips from movies, quotes, photography, 168 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.800 and historical events stuff like that. Okay, she opened up 169 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:42.720 quite a bit on her blog posts, and you can 170 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:44.959 tell that she was like a really good writer. She 171 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.600 loved reading books, and she definitely developed herself and her 172 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:49.319 writing skills. 173 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:51.399 Honestly, that's something I wish I had. 174 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:53.120 Same. I'm a horrible writer. 175 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.319 I yeah, both of us, Like, I don't know, I 176 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:58.279 just struggle with I can write, but then it takes 177 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.000 me a long time to actually make something sound good. 178 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.040 But I overthink it and then I'm like, am I 179 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.319 using the punctuation and stuff? Right? 180 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:06.920 Well, that's that's my downfall grammar one hundred percent. 181 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.040 Yeah. 182 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.120 So there was deep posts on her blogs and she 183 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.240 she would go along like quotes that really like posed 184 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.759 insightful questions or thoughts to her readers, things like that. 185 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.279 So she was quite quite insightful on these And I'm 186 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.000 going to go into a bit of her posts here, 187 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.600 but before we do go into her posts, I want 188 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:28.040 to kind of write a little bit of a note here. 189 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:29.639 I wasn't sure where I should say this in the story. 190 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:31.839 I think here is the best part. Before we actually 191 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.159 read what she had to say, we should understand a 192 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.440 little bit of her first. Okay, she was actually diagnosed 193 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.600 with bipolar disorder and depression. She had been prescribed for 194 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:45.679 medications to treat her disorders, and according to her family, 195 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.679 who supposedly kept her history of mental illness a secret, 196 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.039 she had no history of suicidal thoughts or attempts. 197 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:53.600 Okay, good to know. 198 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.360 So, highlighting on both of her blogs that she had 199 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:02.039 ether Fields and Nouvelle Nuvaux on tumble blog spot, the 200 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.159 quote up top says, You're always haunted by the ideas 201 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.720 you're wasting your life. So that's quite prominent. Say that again, 202 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:13.840 you're always haunted by the idea you're wasting your life. 203 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:15.039 That's strong. 204 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:16.840 It is very strong. Yeah, Like I said, a lot 205 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.639 of this insightful stuff as you'll find. But that's a 206 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.000 quote that she chose from an author. These words. I'm 207 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.679 going to read this here. This is directly her writing, okay, 208 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:27.159 and I'm going to try not to mess us up. 209 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:31.399 This is quoting Elisa on one of her blogs. I 210 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.000 feel I'm wasting my time compared to my fellow peers. 211 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.200 I had a relapse at the start of the term 212 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.720 and had to drop two of three courses I was taking. 213 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.200 Now I am down one course and I have missed 214 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.320 three weeks of classes since I'm sleeping. Since my sleeping 215 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.639 pattern is completely reversed, I'm a bit defeated, for I 216 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.960 have far too much free time and no one to 217 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.720 spend time with. I'm checking emails, blog Lovin, Facebook, Tumbler 218 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.840 all the time, and even jumped into the Twitter foray. 219 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.200 I have a short detention span, and I'm avoiding writing 220 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:04.039 the three papers I owe this course. It's two terms. 221 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.320 I can text friends who are busy with either school 222 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.480 or work, but I have neither of these things going 223 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.000 for me. I've started a photoshop course, but it's only 224 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.039 five classes, so perhaps I'm learning some sort of useful skill. 225 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.960 Other than that, I have very little going on in 226 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.519 my life, which is disappointing. 227 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:25.240 Oh yeah, that sounds really sad. 228 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:27.559 Yeah. So the post goes on a little bit more 229 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.440 about her personal struggles. Yeah, but it ends with this, 230 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.120 with her saying this, as much as I do like 231 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:36.879 spending time to myself when we are alone for so 232 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:40.600 many days, it's not healthy. I know I must start exercising, 233 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:44.480 but excuses it is a weariness that keeps me at 234 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:45.080 a standstill. 235 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.759 Okay, that's actually just shows how strong though that she 236 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:52.279 is for putting that something out there like that is. Yes, 237 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:55.240 I think that's amazing when people are able to express 238 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:57.919 how they're feeling and instead of just bottling it up 239 00:10:58.120 --> 00:10:58.840 one hundred percent. 240 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.639 And like her blogs were her her safe spot, so 241 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:04.039 she was able to express these sort of things, and 242 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.279 like she clearly felt like she was wasting her life 243 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.639 not doing anything worth her time compared to her peers. 244 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.559 And this could be why that she chose to travel 245 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.480 and take a trip down to the West Coast in California. 246 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:15.240 To do something grand. 247 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:19.600 Yeah. Yeah, so Alisa found herself traveling first to San Diego, 248 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.159 and I found this post where she was actually in 249 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:25.919 San Diego. So this is where when she was there. Okay, 250 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.879 today I slept, took a long hot shower, stuffed myself 251 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:32.519 silly with a three dollars dinner. It had been most 252 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:35.679 productive and enjoyable. I seriously have done nothing in San 253 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.840 Diego that is out of the normal routine. At home, 254 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.840 I do what I want, after all, I like my 255 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.639 home comforts, and even now and then I do something 256 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.919 entirely impulsive and reckless. Like tell a guy I just 257 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.840 met that I like him. I do like people watching 258 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:54.639 at the hostel. Now that I'm rested and well, sorry, sorry, 259 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:57.639 Now that I'm rested and well, starting tomorrow, I should 260 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:01.840 venture outside more. Number one, see world number two, the zoo, 261 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.639 number three museum because it's free. Number four whale watching 262 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.320 at Corando Point, Limona, Limoa. I think I don't know 263 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.679 how you say those, but yeah, whale watching at this place. 264 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.159 So she certainly hadn't itinerary for herself. And she's trying 265 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.519 to go out and do things and explore, but. 266 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.200 Still being kind to herself and letting herself be which 267 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:21.639 is awesome. 268 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.279 Yeah, she's trying to stay true to herself, be comfortable, 269 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:25.320 but she's trying to. 270 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.120 Get out there, get out there. 271 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:32.000 And be adventurous and find happiness. Right. Yeah, So after 272 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:35.679 San Diego, she later arrived in La on January twenty six. 273 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.320 Now I couldn't find what happened in these two days. Specifically, 274 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:42.559 she arrived from the twenty six, was there for two days, 275 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:46.039 and then she checked in on January twenty eighth in 276 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.320 a hotel near Downtown's skid Row. Okay, now skid Row 277 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:53.799 just so everyone's aware. It was established by city officials 278 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:57.600 in nineteen seventy six as an unofficial quote unquote containment 279 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.919 zone where shelters and services for home homeless people would 280 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.399 be tolerated. Tolerated. That's a kind of a brutal word. 281 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.519 Hey, yeah, I feel like there could have been a 282 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.279 different word to describe that. 283 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.960 Yeah. It's a neighborhood in LA also known as Central 284 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.399 City East. It contains one of the largest stable populations 285 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.840 about forty two hundred to eight thousand homeless people in 286 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:22.960 the United States and has been known for its condensed 287 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:28.279 homeless population since the nineteen thirties and covers fifty city blocks. 288 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.039 So that's what skid Row is, and that's she's staying 289 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:32.960 like right adjacent to this area. 290 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:38.600 Yeah. Yeah, having a hotel that close to that isn't great, 291 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:40.519 I feel like, but yeah. 292 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:42.080 For sure, And I think the hotel kind of suffered 293 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:44.159 from that because it also started up like kind of 294 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.799 in the in the nineteen thirties as well, so right 295 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.799 around the same time. And it's there's nothing against like 296 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.240 the hotel, Like the hotel has tried to succeed throughout 297 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:54.799 the decades and everything. We're going to get into the 298 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.000 hotel here a little bit, right, So the hotel that 299 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.519 she checked into is called the Cecil Hotel, the same 300 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:02.000 hotel go over in the documentary by Netflix. 301 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:02.639 Hotel. 302 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.519 It's like, everyone knows this name, if you are into 303 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:11.120 true crime, if you're on the Internet searching stuff like that. 304 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.000 Web sluths all know this name. So it was built 305 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.879 in nineteen twenty four as a destination for business travelers 306 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:21.960 and tourists. Through the decades, however, the hotel began to 307 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:25.399 decline as skid Row became increasingly populated with homeless and 308 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.799 became a source for low income housing. Right, So the 309 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:35.320 hotel like eventually became that people who couldn't have places 310 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.840 that they could rent or purchase were actually renting rooms 311 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.200 at the Cecil Hotel. So there was low income housing 312 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:42.960 becoming more and more prominent within the. 313 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.120 Hotel, which is probably a way that they never thought 314 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.879 they would go exactly. It just, yeah, seemed like it 315 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:49.440 just happened. 316 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.879 It just started kind of happening. They never really meant 317 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.360 for it or intended. It's just it was an income 318 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:55.159 for the hotel, so. 319 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.960 They well, they needed to succeed rather than just fail. 320 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:04.200 Hotel has a dark history of murders, death and violence. 321 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.559 Because of all this, There was even I didn't make 322 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:08.919 note of who it was because that could be a 323 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.840 whole other episode, But there was a notorious murderer who 324 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:15.200 would go out murder people and then come back covered 325 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.080 in blood and go to his room in the Cecil Hotel. 326 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:21.720 That was just accepted, right, people like, that's the atmosphere here. 327 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.519 You have a murderer who's comfortable going home in the 328 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.759 Cecil Hotel, and people in the Cecil Hotel seeing this 329 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.000 and just knowing that that's just normal. Yeah, that's just 330 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.840 the way of life there, right, That's that's the atmosphere. 331 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.399 It's dark. 332 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.639 That is a hotel that I just think I'm probably 333 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:38.519 never going to stay at. 334 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:42.919 Yeah. So eventually, like throughout the decades, this is building 335 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.399 up and building up, right, So eventually it forced the 336 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.159 hotel owners to try and split the hotel into two 337 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.120 portions because it couldn't really do anything else about this 338 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.559 low income housing. So in twenty eleven, the hotel was 339 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:57.120 separated into two portions. One side was for that low 340 00:15:57.159 --> 00:16:00.200 income housing. I mean, like I said, restrictions forced them 341 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.000 to keep that. I'm assuming it's government restrictions. I couldn't 342 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:03.759 find much on that. 343 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.759 Oh like restrictions they had to keep the low income house. 344 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:09.879 Yeah, Oh like they couldn't. They couldn't just revamp the 345 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.080 hotel and kick all these people. 346 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.200 It was probably needed, yeah, exactly. 347 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.600 So the government's like, no, you got to keep it, okay. So, 348 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.200 like I said, I can't find the facts on what 349 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:20.080 made them keep it or anything, but it seems like 350 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.080 it was some sort of restriction along those lines that 351 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.559 said no, it has to stay in places as is. 352 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.360 So the low income housing on one side, and then 353 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:32.639 it was rebranded on the other side as the Stay 354 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.919 on Main with a separate reception area and everything. The 355 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.039 only thing is they did share the elevators, so you 356 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.879 would get crossover, a little bit of flow in traffic, 357 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:43.000 but which. 358 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:48.600 Is really just interesting. It is concept, right, I don't know. 359 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:50.960 Could you imagine just like, oh, I'm going to this 360 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.519 nice hotel and then you're in the elevator with someone. 361 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:57.320 I mean, it's not the case in twenty eleven, but 362 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.440 maybe in the nineteen forties it was because that murderer 363 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:01.399 was there cousins. 364 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.480 In blood, covered in blood going up to your suite. 365 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.200 I actually think I'd be like, okay, I'm out, yeah, 366 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.400 piece out, no thanks, check you later. 367 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.119 So when Alisa checked in, she was initially signed a 368 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:16.359 hostile style room in the Cecil Hotel on the fifth floor. However, 369 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.960 her roommates complained of certain odd behaviors and she was 370 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.000 eventually moved to her room of her own after two days. 371 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:28.160 I searched and searched, and I couldn't find anywhere of 372 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:32.319 these roommates being interviewed or giving any sort of like 373 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:33.319 words or anything. 374 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.599 Oh yeah, because they weren't in that the documentary either. 375 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.920 They weren't, so I can't find any confirmation on what 376 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.200 odd behavior was. There's some speculation and I know they 377 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.720 I think they went over one or two in the documentary, 378 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.079 but I didn't want to cover it because I couldn't find. 379 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:49.759 Facts on them well, and they must have not wanted 380 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:51.440 to be part of it then. 381 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:56.240 Yeah, potentially, So whatever odd behavior it was, she's now 382 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:58.759 in her own room after these two days. So on 383 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.240 January thirty, first, Elisa did not contact her parents as 384 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.559 she was supposed to. That was one of the stipulations 385 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.279 of her traveling down to the States. In California, she 386 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:10.200 has to call her parents every day. Oh I love that, right, 387 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:11.359 good parents. 388 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.440 Good parish. That's amazing. 389 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.920 So she didn't contact them, and eventually they reached out 390 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.759 to the Los Angeles Police Department and reported her missing, 391 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.599 and she was officially reported missing on February first. Okay, 392 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:25.640 the police searched the hotel but could not find her. 393 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:28.160 Her possessions were still in the possession or her personal 394 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.440 possessions were still at the hotel, but there was no 395 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:36.559 sign of Elisa anywhere until the police checked the secured 396 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:38.160 the security cameras. 397 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:40.519 That's where it gets wild. 398 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.920 Yeah, so the only place she can be found is 399 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.440 in the camera on an elevator. And on February fifteenth, 400 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:50.480 after two weeks no sign of Lisa, no sign of Alisa, 401 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.400