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Speaker 1: I've got my coffee and I'm comfy. This time, my
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Speaker 2: Did you hear that?
Speaker 1: What you have?
Speaker 2: Coffee and not alcohol?
Speaker 1: I know, right?
Speaker 2: Well done?
Speaker 1: Well I thrive on one or the other.
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Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself.
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Speaker 1: Being really good.
Speaker 2: I don't drink coffee so.
Speaker 1: Which I think you need to because you are way
Speaker 1: too tired most of the time.
Speaker 2: I feel like, sometimes I really need to drink coffee,
Speaker 2: but it tastes like shit.
Speaker 1: I've I love the taste of coffee. I just I
Speaker 1: never really liked it because it always messed with my stomach.
Speaker 1: I've gotten over that. Though I don't necessarily drink coffee,
Speaker 1: sometimes I do. I have to drink a lot to
Speaker 1: make sure I drink it to keep me awake. But
Speaker 1: I drink coffee because it's like a ritualistic thingification.
Speaker 2: There's my phot I'm turning that off.
Speaker 1: I'll turn that off. But it's it's like a ritualistic thing,
Speaker 1: like wake up in the morning. It's that like nice,
Speaker 1: warm hug, feel good thing.
Speaker 2: Well, having just a warm beverage is really nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, exactly, it's just my warm beverage of
Speaker 1: choice is coffee.
Speaker 2: I could have tea because I think like green tea
Speaker 2: is caffeinated. But honestly, like when I do have caffeine,
Speaker 2: because I've had some coffee drinks theft, I don't feel
Speaker 2: like it makes me more awake.
Speaker 1: Well, there's not a lot of caffeine it maybe Okay,
Speaker 1: you've had energy drinks before. That sure makes you like
Speaker 1: awaken a lern yeah, but not.
Speaker 2: Even that much anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting old. It's hard, hard to get into system.
Speaker 2: I'm just never going to be awake.
Speaker 1: This is just me for the way it's fired for
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. Oh that is that is sad.
Speaker 2: We think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're only thirty and we're already bitching. God. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm super pumped, me too. Do you know why not necessarily?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: The episode Yeah, okay, before we get into that though.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, tell us my notes.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing paper. Although I've always been old school,
Speaker 1: I'm writing my notes on paper, and I still do
Speaker 1: notebooks and stuff. However, today I'm going digital. I discovered,
Speaker 1: thanks to you, that I had a tablet in my
Speaker 1: nightstand that I didn't even really know about. So I've
Speaker 1: got all my notes on a tablet today. So no
Speaker 1: paper turning, no, nothing like that. I just scroll, am
Speaker 1: good to go.
Speaker 2: No, that's really fancy, But it's also really weird that
Speaker 2: I had to tell you that you had a tablet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, when was the last time I
Speaker 1: used this thing?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was lost for the longest period
Speaker 2: of time because it was in the middle console.
Speaker 1: Of your truck, my center console. It was just like
Speaker 1: taken by the void. But yeah, I found it. The
Speaker 1: only time I think I've ever used this was for
Speaker 1: Netflix when like I'm on the airport. That's the only
Speaker 1: time of usday because we got it for free signing up.
Speaker 2: Of the contract. Yeah yeah, but you look real fancy.
Speaker 1: Look fancy, I got my my my coffee in one hand,
Speaker 1: my tablet in the other.
Speaker 2: Look at us.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna be talking a real complicated story. Today,
Speaker 1: we gave everyone on Instagram who follows us a bit
Speaker 1: of a heads up.
Speaker 2: A sneaky piece, sneaky peek.
Speaker 1: We took a screencap from the CCTV footage of Elisa
Speaker 1: Lamb and everyone immediately knew that what this case was.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks to Netflix, I feel well it.
Speaker 1: Netflix has brought another another set of eyes onto this
Speaker 1: for sure, but a Lisa Lamb. The case of Alisa
Speaker 1: Lamb has been like notorious online. It's a very well
Speaker 1: known case prior to Netflix. But the Netflix series Crime
Speaker 1: Scene the Vanishing of Cecil Hotel, a vanishing at Cecil Hotel,
Speaker 1: that's made it.
Speaker 2: A little bit more. Honestly, before that, I didn't even know.
Speaker 2: I had never heard of it. Before that.
Speaker 1: I have heard of the case when we when we
Speaker 1: turned on the episode and we were like, I recognize
Speaker 1: the name Cecil Hotel immediately, but I couldn't couldn't place it.
Speaker 1: And then like two minutes in, I'm like, wait, is
Speaker 1: this is this a lease a Lamb? And then yeah,
Speaker 1: boom right away Yeah, I'm like, okay, I know what
Speaker 1: we're in for because.
Speaker 2: Where was she from? Again? Was she from BC?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's from Vancouver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So it's it's she's a Vancouver resident, but the crime
Speaker 1: or incident took place in the States however.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, yes, yes, Ripley, what do you want? She
Speaker 2: needs something?
Speaker 1: She needs something, Ripley. You should go lay down, you
Speaker 1: should go lay down, go down. Okay, she's actually going
Speaker 1: to be she's going to behave I.
Speaker 2: Like how we were just like this is going to go
Speaker 2: one way or the other, and it went the right way.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go right into this. So Lisa Lamb
Speaker 1: was also known by her Cantonese Cantonese name Oh maybe
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like you and oh no Lamb
Speaker 1: ho yee. I believe that's how you pronounced that. She
Speaker 1: was born April thirtieth, nineteen ninety one. Her immigrant family,
Speaker 1: they immigrated into Canada, so she was born in Canada.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't realize she was younger than us. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: oh man, okay.
Speaker 1: And like her family actually like they lived in Burnaby area,
Speaker 1: and they opened a restaurant in Burnaby and that restaurant
Speaker 1: is still actually there. It's called Paul's Restaurant.
Speaker 2: Okay restaurant, and everything ran by them.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish it go.
Speaker 1: That would be cool, But I imagine that family has had
Speaker 1: a lot of people use it as like an attraction
Speaker 1: thing because of this case.
Speaker 2: My thought to go was only to support them, because like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like they're still I don't know having a restaurant, like
Speaker 2: having something like this happened to their family could have
Speaker 2: made that shut down and be destroyed exactly.
Speaker 1: Like when this did happen, there was like they were
Speaker 1: like so many people going there, like not bothering them.
Speaker 1: At the restaurant, they were leaving flowers in the doorstep,
Speaker 1: but like it was like a memorial on the sidewalk
Speaker 1: in front of the restaurant, which is super nice. But
Speaker 1: I just I imagine there's some people treating this almost
Speaker 1: like a tourist attraction because of this case. So if
Speaker 1: anyone out there is ever going to go to their restaurant,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna please ask that you respect them, like go
Speaker 1: to the restaurant, support the restaurant. But I wouldn't bother them.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've dealt with a lot with this cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, we would like to go one day,
Speaker 1: but we're just gonna support the restaurant exactly. So anyways,
Speaker 1: if you haven't watched the Netflix series, you guys got
Speaker 1: to watch that. But you're gonna listen to us first.
Speaker 2: The deats from US first, exactly. So.
Speaker 1: Lisa was a student at University Hills Secondary School when
Speaker 1: she was younger, and then eventually she went to University
Speaker 1: of British Columbia. We all know that university, especially up
Speaker 1: here in British Columbia. She loved fashion and writing and
Speaker 1: it all came together in her online blog like this
Speaker 1: online world that you in. She had a blog bought
Speaker 1: account called ether Fields where you can find her writing
Speaker 1: and Tumblr account also known as Novelle Nouveau, which nouvelle
Speaker 1: means trendy and nouveau means like newly arrived or developed.
Speaker 2: Okay, she had a big online.
Speaker 1: Presence, oh major. Yeah, yeah, well she definitely does now
Speaker 1: because her accounts are still up.
Speaker 2: Right, which is really cool.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, so, I actually have a couple of quotes
Speaker 1: that I'm going to go through with this from her account,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to link her accounts below so you
Speaker 1: people can go check them out as well. She did
Speaker 1: prefer Tumblr, though she was more active on there and
Speaker 1: posted lots of like including memes, clips from movies, quotes, photography,
Speaker 1: and historical events stuff like that. Okay, she opened up
Speaker 1: quite a bit on her blog posts, and you can
Speaker 1: tell that she was like a really good writer. She
Speaker 1: loved reading books, and she definitely developed herself and her
Speaker 1: writing skills.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's something I wish I had.
Speaker 1: Same. I'm a horrible writer.
Speaker 2: I yeah, both of us, Like, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: just struggle with I can write, but then it takes
Speaker 2: me a long time to actually make something sound good.
Speaker 2: But I overthink it and then I'm like, am I
Speaker 2: using the punctuation and stuff? Right?
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's my downfall grammar one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there was deep posts on her blogs and she
Speaker 1: she would go along like quotes that really like posed
Speaker 1: insightful questions or thoughts to her readers, things like that.
Speaker 1: So she was quite quite insightful on these And I'm
Speaker 1: going to go into a bit of her posts here,
Speaker 1: but before we do go into her posts, I want
Speaker 1: to kind of write a little bit of a note here.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure where I should say this in the story.
Speaker 1: I think here is the best part. Before we actually
Speaker 1: read what she had to say, we should understand a
Speaker 1: little bit of her first. Okay, she was actually diagnosed
Speaker 1: with bipolar disorder and depression. She had been prescribed for
Speaker 1: medications to treat her disorders, and according to her family,
Speaker 1: who supposedly kept her history of mental illness a secret,
Speaker 1: she had no history of suicidal thoughts or attempts.
Speaker 2: Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1: So, highlighting on both of her blogs that she had
Speaker 1: ether Fields and Nouvelle Nuvaux on tumble blog spot, the
Speaker 1: quote up top says, You're always haunted by the ideas
Speaker 1: you're wasting your life. So that's quite prominent. Say that again,
Speaker 1: you're always haunted by the idea you're wasting your life.
Speaker 2: That's strong.
Speaker 1: It is very strong. Yeah, Like I said, a lot
Speaker 1: of this insightful stuff as you'll find. But that's a
Speaker 1: quote that she chose from an author. These words. I'm
Speaker 1: going to read this here. This is directly her writing, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to try not to mess us up.
Speaker 1: This is quoting Elisa on one of her blogs. I
Speaker 1: feel I'm wasting my time compared to my fellow peers.
Speaker 1: I had a relapse at the start of the term
Speaker 1: and had to drop two of three courses I was taking.
Speaker 1: Now I am down one course and I have missed
Speaker 1: three weeks of classes since I'm sleeping. Since my sleeping
Speaker 1: pattern is completely reversed, I'm a bit defeated, for I
Speaker 1: have far too much free time and no one to
Speaker 1: spend time with. I'm checking emails, blog Lovin, Facebook, Tumbler
Speaker 1: all the time, and even jumped into the Twitter foray.
Speaker 1: I have a short detention span, and I'm avoiding writing
Speaker 1: the three papers I owe this course. It's two terms.
Speaker 1: I can text friends who are busy with either school
Speaker 1: or work, but I have neither of these things going
Speaker 1: for me. I've started a photoshop course, but it's only
Speaker 1: five classes, so perhaps I'm learning some sort of useful skill.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I have very little going on in
Speaker 1: my life, which is disappointing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that sounds really sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the post goes on a little bit more
Speaker 1: about her personal struggles. Yeah, but it ends with this,
Speaker 1: with her saying this, as much as I do like
Speaker 1: spending time to myself when we are alone for so
Speaker 1: many days, it's not healthy. I know I must start exercising,
Speaker 1: but excuses it is a weariness that keeps me at
Speaker 1: a standstill.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually just shows how strong though that she
Speaker 2: is for putting that something out there like that is. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think that's amazing when people are able to express
Speaker 2: how they're feeling and instead of just bottling it up
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And like her blogs were her her safe spot, so
Speaker 1: she was able to express these sort of things, and
Speaker 1: like she clearly felt like she was wasting her life
Speaker 1: not doing anything worth her time compared to her peers.
Speaker 1: And this could be why that she chose to travel
Speaker 1: and take a trip down to the West Coast in California.
Speaker 2: To do something grand.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Alisa found herself traveling first to San Diego,
Speaker 1: and I found this post where she was actually in
Speaker 1: San Diego. So this is where when she was there. Okay,
Speaker 1: today I slept, took a long hot shower, stuffed myself
Speaker 1: silly with a three dollars dinner. It had been most
Speaker 1: productive and enjoyable. I seriously have done nothing in San
Speaker 1: Diego that is out of the normal routine. At home,
Speaker 1: I do what I want, after all, I like my
Speaker 1: home comforts, and even now and then I do something
Speaker 1: entirely impulsive and reckless. Like tell a guy I just
Speaker 1: met that I like him. I do like people watching
Speaker 1: at the hostel. Now that I'm rested and well, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: Now that I'm rested and well, starting tomorrow, I should
Speaker 1: venture outside more. Number one, see world number two, the zoo,
Speaker 1: number three museum because it's free. Number four whale watching
Speaker 1: at Corando Point, Limona, Limoa. I think I don't know
Speaker 1: how you say those, but yeah, whale watching at this place.
Speaker 1: So she certainly hadn't itinerary for herself. And she's trying
Speaker 1: to go out and do things and explore, but.
Speaker 2: Still being kind to herself and letting herself be which
Speaker 2: is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying to stay true to herself, be comfortable,
Speaker 1: but she's trying to.
Speaker 2: Get out there, get out there.
Speaker 1: And be adventurous and find happiness. Right. Yeah, So after
Speaker 1: San Diego, she later arrived in La on January twenty six.
Speaker 1: Now I couldn't find what happened in these two days. Specifically,
Speaker 1: she arrived from the twenty six, was there for two days,
Speaker 1: and then she checked in on January twenty eighth in
Speaker 1: a hotel near Downtown's skid Row. Okay, now skid Row
Speaker 1: just so everyone's aware. It was established by city officials
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six as an unofficial quote unquote containment
Speaker 1: zone where shelters and services for home homeless people would
Speaker 1: be tolerated. Tolerated. That's a kind of a brutal word.
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I feel like there could have been a
Speaker 2: different word to describe that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a neighborhood in LA also known as Central
Speaker 1: City East. It contains one of the largest stable populations
Speaker 1: about forty two hundred to eight thousand homeless people in
Speaker 1: the United States and has been known for its condensed
Speaker 1: homeless population since the nineteen thirties and covers fifty city blocks.
Speaker 1: So that's what skid Row is, and that's she's staying
Speaker 1: like right adjacent to this area.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, having a hotel that close to that isn't great,
Speaker 2: I feel like, but yeah.
Speaker 1: For sure, And I think the hotel kind of suffered
Speaker 1: from that because it also started up like kind of
Speaker 1: in the in the nineteen thirties as well, so right
Speaker 1: around the same time. And it's there's nothing against like
Speaker 1: the hotel, Like the hotel has tried to succeed throughout
Speaker 1: the decades and everything. We're going to get into the
Speaker 1: hotel here a little bit, right, So the hotel that
Speaker 1: she checked into is called the Cecil Hotel, the same
Speaker 1: hotel go over in the documentary by Netflix.
Speaker 2: Hotel.
Speaker 1: It's like, everyone knows this name, if you are into
Speaker 1: true crime, if you're on the Internet searching stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Web sluths all know this name. So it was built
Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty four as a destination for business travelers
Speaker 1: and tourists. Through the decades, however, the hotel began to
Speaker 1: decline as skid Row became increasingly populated with homeless and
Speaker 1: became a source for low income housing. Right, So the
Speaker 1: hotel like eventually became that people who couldn't have places
Speaker 1: that they could rent or purchase were actually renting rooms
Speaker 1: at the Cecil Hotel. So there was low income housing
Speaker 1: becoming more and more prominent within the.
Speaker 2: Hotel, which is probably a way that they never thought
Speaker 2: they would go exactly. It just, yeah, seemed like it
Speaker 2: just happened.
Speaker 1: It just started kind of happening. They never really meant
Speaker 1: for it or intended. It's just it was an income
Speaker 1: for the hotel, so.
Speaker 2: They well, they needed to succeed rather than just fail.
Speaker 1: Hotel has a dark history of murders, death and violence.
Speaker 1: Because of all this, There was even I didn't make
Speaker 1: note of who it was because that could be a
Speaker 1: whole other episode, But there was a notorious murderer who
Speaker 1: would go out murder people and then come back covered
Speaker 1: in blood and go to his room in the Cecil Hotel.
Speaker 1: That was just accepted, right, people like, that's the atmosphere here.
Speaker 1: You have a murderer who's comfortable going home in the
Speaker 1: Cecil Hotel, and people in the Cecil Hotel seeing this
Speaker 1: and just knowing that that's just normal. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 1: the way of life there, right, That's that's the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: It's dark.
Speaker 2: That is a hotel that I just think I'm probably
Speaker 2: never going to stay at.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So eventually, like throughout the decades, this is building
Speaker 1: up and building up, right, So eventually it forced the
Speaker 1: hotel owners to try and split the hotel into two
Speaker 1: portions because it couldn't really do anything else about this
Speaker 1: low income housing. So in twenty eleven, the hotel was
Speaker 1: separated into two portions. One side was for that low
Speaker 1: income housing. I mean, like I said, restrictions forced them
Speaker 1: to keep that. I'm assuming it's government restrictions. I couldn't
Speaker 1: find much on that.
Speaker 2: Oh like restrictions they had to keep the low income house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh like they couldn't. They couldn't just revamp the
Speaker 1: hotel and kick all these people.
Speaker 2: It was probably needed, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So the government's like, no, you got to keep it, okay. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I can't find the facts on what
Speaker 1: made them keep it or anything, but it seems like
Speaker 1: it was some sort of restriction along those lines that
Speaker 1: said no, it has to stay in places as is.
Speaker 1: So the low income housing on one side, and then
Speaker 1: it was rebranded on the other side as the Stay
Speaker 1: on Main with a separate reception area and everything. The
Speaker 1: only thing is they did share the elevators, so you
Speaker 1: would get crossover, a little bit of flow in traffic,
Speaker 1: but which.
Speaker 2: Is really just interesting. It is concept, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine just like, oh, I'm going to this
Speaker 1: nice hotel and then you're in the elevator with someone.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the case in twenty eleven, but
Speaker 1: maybe in the nineteen forties it was because that murderer
Speaker 1: was there cousins.
Speaker 2: In blood, covered in blood going up to your suite.
Speaker 2: I actually think I'd be like, okay, I'm out, yeah,
Speaker 2: piece out, no thanks, check you later.
Speaker 1: So when Alisa checked in, she was initially signed a
Speaker 1: hostile style room in the Cecil Hotel on the fifth floor. However,
Speaker 1: her roommates complained of certain odd behaviors and she was
Speaker 1: eventually moved to her room of her own after two days.
Speaker 1: I searched and searched, and I couldn't find anywhere of
Speaker 1: these roommates being interviewed or giving any sort of like
Speaker 1: words or anything.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they weren't in that the documentary either.
Speaker 1: They weren't, so I can't find any confirmation on what
Speaker 1: odd behavior was. There's some speculation and I know they
Speaker 1: I think they went over one or two in the documentary,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to cover it because I couldn't find.
Speaker 2: Facts on them well, and they must have not wanted
Speaker 2: to be part of it then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, potentially, So whatever odd behavior it was, she's now
Speaker 1: in her own room after these two days. So on
Speaker 1: January thirty, first, Elisa did not contact her parents as
Speaker 1: she was supposed to. That was one of the stipulations
Speaker 1: of her traveling down to the States. In California, she
Speaker 1: has to call her parents every day. Oh I love that, right,
Speaker 1: good parents.
Speaker 2: Good parish. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: So she didn't contact them, and eventually they reached out
Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Police Department and reported her missing,
Speaker 1: and she was officially reported missing on February first. Okay,
Speaker 1: the police searched the hotel but could not find her.
Speaker 1: Her possessions were still in the possession or her personal
Speaker 1: possessions were still at the hotel, but there was no
Speaker 1: sign of Elisa anywhere until the police checked the secured
Speaker 1: the security cameras.
Speaker 2: That's where it gets wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the only place she can be found is
Speaker 1: in the camera on an elevator. And on February fifteenth,
Speaker 1: after two weeks no sign of Lisa, no sign of Alisa,
Speaker 1: the LPD released the footage to the public.
Speaker 2: That seems like such a long span of time.
Speaker 1: Well, I think what it is is like they can't
Speaker 1: find her, and I'm sure it would have taken a
Speaker 1: few days for them to track down the specific footage
Speaker 1: and everything.
Speaker 2: Right, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's there's no telling when they receive the
Speaker 1: footage or anything, but when they released it to the public,
Speaker 1: it's it's probably like, Okay, we're looking for this girl.
Speaker 1: Here's where she was last seen, here's her behavior, everything
Speaker 1: which she was wearing.
Speaker 2: So, I don't know, I just sick. That's like too
Speaker 2: long of a span, Like time's precious when someone's missing back.
Speaker 1: That's true. So if you haven't seen the footage, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna link it in the description here as well. It
Speaker 1: is super eerie, super eerie. The footage of Elisa has
Speaker 1: become incredibly famous. It's all over the internet. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's so eerie to watch that being said, like
Speaker 1: I said, the links there, go watch it. I recommend it.
Speaker 2: It's it's a good it's interesting. Interesting, you visualize the
Speaker 2: story and its stuff easier.
Speaker 1: So if you want to go watch it now, go
Speaker 1: for it. If not, wait till the end. If you
Speaker 1: go watch it now, please come back. So the footage
Speaker 1: is forming a long and it shows Alisa enter the
Speaker 1: elevator alone. She bends down, presses a series of buttons,
Speaker 1: and stands back at the elevator. Kind of normal, weird,
Speaker 1: she pressed on my buttons. But it's normal so far
Speaker 1: until she begins to sneak forward and quickly pokes her
Speaker 1: head out and looks both ways down the hallway as
Speaker 1: fast as she can and then sneaks back into the elevator,
Speaker 1: back pressed up against the wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and then.
Speaker 1: Back to shifts over back into the front corner by
Speaker 1: the buttons and kind of like hides in the corner
Speaker 1: of the elevator as if she's trying to hide from someone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so super odd behavior. All the while. I want to
Speaker 1: make note that the elevator door isn't closing, it's staying
Speaker 1: open this whole time. But this has been there's people
Speaker 1: like saying that, well, that could be someone outside holding
Speaker 1: the button open. But in the documentary they even go
Speaker 1: over this. It has been debunked that she actually was
Speaker 1: pressing the doorhold button. So and that doorhole button holds
Speaker 1: the door open for two minutes, right, So the door
Speaker 1: is open because she's pressing that button, just so people
Speaker 1: are aware. So after a moment when she's kind of
Speaker 1: hiding in that corner, she begins to make her way
Speaker 1: towards the opening of the elevator again, and she makes
Speaker 1: her way into the hallway where her behavior gets even weirder.
Speaker 1: She goes at a camera view for a moment, and
Speaker 1: she seems to be calm but kind of in distress
Speaker 1: at the same time, like she's confused. She goes back
Speaker 1: into the elevator, presses a bunch of buttons again, then
Speaker 1: again exits the elevator. It almost looks like she's talking
Speaker 1: to someone. She's definitely saying like she's speaking. It looks
Speaker 1: like she's speaking to someone.
Speaker 2: And she was gesturing with her hands.
Speaker 1: Yes, she was beginning to do those really weird gestures
Speaker 1: with her hands, like her fingers like spread really far apart,
Speaker 1: and she's doing like circular weird motions, really odd stuff.
Speaker 1: And then after the gesture, she begins to like also
Speaker 1: like bend her fingers back really far in her hands
Speaker 1: back really far.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: Like it does like it doesn't look like she's breaking
Speaker 1: her her fingers are putting yourself in pain, but it
Speaker 1: does look really.
Speaker 2: Awkward and really movement that you wouldn't normally make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like her fingers are like probably almost touching
Speaker 1: her wrists sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Like oh jeez.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's super weird. So, like I said, not harmful,
Speaker 1: but super weird. And she exits a camera view down
Speaker 1: the hallway to the left on the fourteenth floor and
Speaker 1: is never seen again.
Speaker 2: So she yeah, because she didn't go up even go
Speaker 2: up or anything at that moment, right like any she
Speaker 2: didn't go up any floors or anything.
Speaker 1: You can't see any floors. All you can see is
Speaker 1: the hallway outside the elevator. So she went out the
Speaker 1: elevator and turned left.
Speaker 2: And never and she's gone. Did they not have cameras
Speaker 2: going down the hall and stuff?
Speaker 1: No, some of the cameras were restricted. There was not
Speaker 1: cameras in every area. Again, they cover that in the
Speaker 1: documentary that their coverage of the cameras in the hotel
Speaker 1: weren't the greatest.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But even though that she's gone. One thing that I
Speaker 1: want to point out is that the video continues for
Speaker 1: another minute and a half.
Speaker 2: With the door being opened. Still right door.
Speaker 1: The door's open, but the door closes again two more sorry,
Speaker 1: the door closes and it closes again two more times
Speaker 1: before the footage ends. So it closes, then opens and closes,
Speaker 1: then opens then.
Speaker 2: Closes, right, which is weird, really weird, really weird.
Speaker 1: Even more strange about this footage, it has been edited.
Speaker 1: So the first thing that you're going to see when
Speaker 1: watching this footage, as far as edited happened editing happening
Speaker 1: the time stamp at the bottom where the time's scrolling
Speaker 1: by and showing like date stamp, seconds and everything, it's blurred.
Speaker 1: It's completely unreadable. The second thing is there is an
Speaker 1: obvious cut in the footage where the door is closing
Speaker 1: for the first time. All of a sudden, the door
Speaker 1: just jumps and it's already halfway closed, and then smooth's
Speaker 1: continue to close. There's an obvious cut down. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is really odd.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: So back to the time stamp. Though, even though the
Speaker 1: time stamp is blurred, numbers are patterns one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seventy nine ten, yeah, and then it's two and then
Speaker 1: so like twenty twenty one two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seventy eight nine thirty, which is three one to three.
Speaker 1: It's a pattern. So even though it's blurred, patterns have
Speaker 1: emerged and people have easily been able to decode the
Speaker 1: time stamp.
Speaker 2: Okay, why why would they.
Speaker 1: Even blur the Well, that's one question. Why did they
Speaker 1: blur that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And why has it been edited to be blurred and
Speaker 1: that cut?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very unnecessary.
Speaker 1: But the time stamp gets weirder. You might ask Okay,
Speaker 1: why has it been blurred? But okay, go, I gotta
Speaker 1: find this exactly here.
Speaker 2: That's not the weird part, apparently.
Speaker 1: Oh it's not. It's it gets weirder. So people have
Speaker 1: been able to decode the time stamp and they figured
Speaker 1: out that the footage has been slowed down thirty three
Speaker 1: to thirty five percent, and fifty three seconds are missing
Speaker 1: in the last one third of the video.
Speaker 2: What that's a long time.
Speaker 1: That's a long time.
Speaker 2: That's a long time.
Speaker 1: So there's major speculation on why and who did it.
Speaker 2: What was going on in that fifty three.
Speaker 1: Second could have showed someone that she could have been
Speaker 1: potentially talking to, been responsible for what's about to occur.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's it's iffy. So during the weeks while
Speaker 1: they searched for Elsa I guess at the hotel began
Speaker 1: to complain about low water pressure and even some claims
Speaker 1: of discolored water and a weird taste.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, this is just the part that
Speaker 2: I hate so much.
Speaker 1: Even people who don't know this case, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: you can already see where this is.
Speaker 2: I just hate it.
Speaker 1: So this was an obvious issue and the hotel sent
Speaker 1: their maintenance worker, Santiago Lopez, to investigate and repair the
Speaker 1: problem on the morning of February nineteenth. So remember she
Speaker 1: was officially missing on February first, So on the morning
Speaker 1: of February nineteenth, Santiago found Elisa's greenish bloated body floating
Speaker 1: base up in a thousand gallon water tank located on
Speaker 1: the hotel's roof.
Speaker 2: With guests have using that water.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately, this tank and three others, so it's four
Speaker 1: in total, supplied water to guest rooms, a kitchen, oh,
Speaker 1: even a coffee shop.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that would probably make your latte taste real good, holy.
Speaker 1: Mold as I'm drinking a coffee.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that actually just makes my stomach turn like
Speaker 2: real bad. I feel like you could sue them for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lawsuit that was put up
Speaker 1: against the hotel by Alisa's parents. I didn't put this
Speaker 1: in my research or anything, and it was a lawsuit
Speaker 1: against like negligence of safety or something along those lines.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, because how does she get in that hatch?
Speaker 1: The hatch was unlocked, right, Yeah, so the suit actually
Speaker 1: didn't go through. I think it was in twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: it fell through or something, but it was an unsuccessful lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Oh dang. But I also feel like it's almost surprising
Speaker 2: people weren't getting sick from that, right, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe that boosts your moon system, who knows, But like
Speaker 2: that's nasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally gross. So if you ever have a dirty
Speaker 1: water at a hotel again, maybe think of think of this.
Speaker 2: Case now that we've successfully ruined everyone's appetite for the
Speaker 2: rest of.
Speaker 1: The day, right, Okay, So on February twenty first, Oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: the tank had been cut open and her body was
Speaker 1: removed because they couldn't access her from the top of
Speaker 1: the tank. Okay, So on February twenty fourth, first, the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Corner Office issued a finding of accidental drowning
Speaker 1: with a bipolar disorder as a significant factor. So there
Speaker 1: was no evidence of physical trauma. While she was found
Speaker 1: in the water nude with her clothes at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the tank, there was no sign of sexual assault,
Speaker 1: and there was also no sign of suicide. The toxology report,
Speaker 1: it goes quite in depth on some of the stuff
Speaker 1: found in her system. A lot of it's kind of meaningless.
Speaker 1: So I did cut some out like there was like
Speaker 1: her blood level, blood alcohol level was like point zero two,
Speaker 1: minimal stuff like that. That's like, it's in there, but
Speaker 1: it's not necessary to talk about. So there's some stuff
Speaker 1: a cutout, but the important stuff that we do need
Speaker 1: to talk about. So the test showed that she was
Speaker 1: taking her purpose. She was taking her prescription medication. There
Speaker 1: we go, she was taking it. But no recreational drugs
Speaker 1: were found, which some people say, maybe she got some drugs,
Speaker 1: you know, like right by skid Row where there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of shady figures.
Speaker 2: And stuff, which could explain some of her like behavior
Speaker 2: in the elevator. Yeah, if she was high or something.
Speaker 1: Now, However, even though she was taking her prescription drugs,
Speaker 1: the concentration of those drugs in her system indicated that
Speaker 1: she had stopped taking some of her medications recently or
Speaker 1: had been inconsistent.
Speaker 2: With them, Okay, which I guess could affect an illness
Speaker 2: like that quite heavily.
Speaker 1: It could. So that is the case of Alisa Lamb.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are not happy to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, it was an accidental DRIs out, that someone
Speaker 1: could have been involved in this, someone knows something. Why
Speaker 1: has the footage been edited in the elevator. For example,
Speaker 1: the door access to the roof was locked, so a
Speaker 1: hotel worker is the only one who could have led
Speaker 1: her to the roof. However, in the investigation trying to
Speaker 1: find her when she was missing, there was police dogs
Speaker 1: in the scene. They didn't find her on the roof.
Speaker 1: Police dogs never found her on the roof, So just
Speaker 1: saying that, but the did catch her scent up to
Speaker 1: a window where she could have used the fire escape,
Speaker 1: which was accessible to the public, which easily accesses to
Speaker 1: the roof.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's one of the theories and how she
Speaker 2: got up there, right, Yeah, And honestly, I just I
Speaker 2: was just going to say, it doesn't feel like this
Speaker 2: is very That outcome doesn't give a lot of closure
Speaker 2: to the family, So I do there's still things kind
Speaker 2: of up in the air.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's so many things up in the air. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do have the theories written down here. Okay,
Speaker 1: some of these theories are a little wild, some of
Speaker 1: them might be a little more on point. You decide
Speaker 1: what you think. The official report, however, that she had
Speaker 1: drowned accidentally.
Speaker 2: Was an accidental drowning.
Speaker 1: Drowning, so it was like her unfortunate death was labeled
Speaker 1: as such, but there are still some theories that surround
Speaker 1: little details that suggest otherwise. I'm like why, Like I said,
Speaker 1: why was the footage edited?
Speaker 2: That's a big one.
Speaker 1: The hatch on the water tank is a big thing.
Speaker 1: The police report. I tried to look it up. I
Speaker 1: couldn't find it, but the police report says according to
Speaker 1: the documentary and many other sources talking about it online,
Speaker 1: apparently the police report says the hatch was closed on
Speaker 1: the top of the water tank. And people say, Alisa,
Speaker 1: if she jumped in on her own, will wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been able to close that hatch.
Speaker 2: There's no way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: However, the worker who found her, the maintenance worker, Santia Lopez,
Speaker 1: says it was open. So why did their police report say.
Speaker 2: Otherwise unless he like closed it after I imagine seeing
Speaker 2: that like, oh my gosh, and that closes it or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe, or I don't know, it's so hard to say.
Speaker 1: In the documentary, they brush it off as just an error, right,
Speaker 1: someone just made a mistake.
Speaker 2: But those hatches should be locked.
Speaker 1: They should be which again, like that's why that lawsuit started.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that is a safety issue for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're locked now on that building and many
Speaker 1: others around.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because this, honestly, this isn't the first crime
Speaker 2: that I've ever heard where there's someone dies in a
Speaker 2: water tank or gets like stored or gets murdered and
Speaker 2: then stored in a water tank. Yeah, so this is
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 1: We're going to touch on that a little bit here,
Speaker 1: am I jumping ahead? Almost almost kind of maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit in a parallel way. But this whole like
Speaker 1: hatch issue opens up the world of theories for a
Speaker 1: cover up by either someone at the hotel, some one
Speaker 1: in the police, or even possibly government.
Speaker 2: Okay, that the hotel covering something up. That is an interesting.
Speaker 1: One, especially when it comes down to the footage. The
Speaker 1: hotel claims they never edited it, edited it, they never
Speaker 1: edited to it, and the police say that they never
Speaker 1: did either. They released it just as the hotel gave
Speaker 1: it to them. So there's no one out there admitting
Speaker 1: to doing any sort of editing to the footage.
Speaker 2: Huh Okay, because yeah, I just have I just feel
Speaker 2: like this hotel is a bit sketch. Yeah, so something
Speaker 2: I wonder something, Yeah, that is a theory that I
Speaker 2: think I could fall behind. So that is the.
Speaker 1: Most logical theory. There's three more theories I have here
Speaker 1: that are a little bit out there. There's one theory
Speaker 1: I'm not going to touch on because it has been
Speaker 1: completely debunked. They touch on it in the Netflix series,
Speaker 1: so you can go watch that and take a look yourself.
Speaker 1: It's about the metal heavy metal rock dude.
Speaker 2: But anyways, oh yeah, yeah that one now.
Speaker 1: So one of the theories is the quote unquote dark
Speaker 1: water theory. There's a two thousand and five horror film
Speaker 1: called dark Water and it's a remake of a two
Speaker 1: thousand and two Japanese film with the same name.
Speaker 2: Are what is that called some pump? Some pump is going.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can hear that or not,
Speaker 1: but it's a loud, humming door is opened. Yeah, pretty much. Okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a remake of this two thousand and
Speaker 1: two Japanese film with the same name, and the movie
Speaker 1: features a little girl who moves to a dilapidated building
Speaker 1: with her mother and then dies after falling inside a
Speaker 1: water tank on the building's roof. Very similar premises here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So one of the theories is that someone may have
Speaker 1: been using a Lisa to recreate this plot.
Speaker 2: Like a person like murdering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so some sort of like copycat murder.
Speaker 2: Oh that's fun.
Speaker 1: Geez fun, that's the word I wouldn't use.
Speaker 2: Wow, geez. I don't like that one.
Speaker 1: So that is a theory.
Speaker 2: I don't like that theory.
Speaker 1: Another theory is a tuberculosis cover up. This is one
Speaker 1: of the most elaborate theories to emerge, the tuberculosis theory.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is this again?
Speaker 1: This one it's it's kind of there's some crazy coincidences
Speaker 1: in this one, but it's it's again, it's a little
Speaker 1: out there, even though these coincidences are like on point.
Speaker 1: So it suggests that Alisa was actually a test subject
Speaker 1: for some kind of tuberculosis medication. To get this. There's
Speaker 1: an outbreak of tuberculosis in skid Row in LA at
Speaker 1: the time that Alisa was there, just days after her
Speaker 1: body was found. Okay, So I'm gonna try and say
Speaker 1: this drug properly. Iso nisid I. So nisid I think
Speaker 1: is how you say it. It's the most common anti
Speaker 1: antibiotic prescribed to those who suffer from tuberculosis. One of
Speaker 1: the main side effects of this drug is confusion and
Speaker 1: abnormal behavior. Wow, very sane behavior. Elsa was exhibiting on
Speaker 1: the CCTV footage in the elevator.
Speaker 2: That's a side effect and a half right.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a strange coincidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well here's another one. A tool that is being used
Speaker 1: to test patients for tuberculosis is called LAMB dash Elisa.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Alisa's name is Alisa lamb.
Speaker 2: That's wild.
Speaker 1: It's spelt exactly the same.
Speaker 2: That's wild.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like that is actually a little
Speaker 2: bit like there's a lot of connection weirdness going on there.
Speaker 1: So that LAMB Alisa test apparently stands for enzyme linked
Speaker 1: immunosorbent essay asay as s A y essay A.
Speaker 2: S s A y. Yeah, you're asking me asay assay.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just like being having a blonde moment, but
Speaker 1: I can't read that word anyways.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with being blonde, then.
Speaker 1: Hypothetical blonde moment. Okay, I'm sorry, did you just assume
Speaker 1: my hair color? Okay? So theories also address a potential
Speaker 1: explanation on the like the Netflix documentary arguing that A.
Speaker 1: Lisa could have been a subject to knowing too much
Speaker 1: and was fatally silenced. The University of British Columbia, where
Speaker 1: we know she went to school, has a renowned tuberculosis
Speaker 1: research center, like one of the top of the world.
Speaker 2: See, I just okay, I don't I don't think this
Speaker 2: is a legit theory. But there is a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on here. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: like really one target coincidences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very it's very alarming. But I just
Speaker 2: I can't get behind that theory. But yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 2: does need to be noted. There's too much.
Speaker 1: There's so much in line that it's like it just
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it into words. How
Speaker 1: much of a like how can you get this many incident?
Speaker 1: I think there was another one involving like longitude, latitude,
Speaker 1: some other number stuff that was really weird. But that
Speaker 1: one was a little bit out there for me. I
Speaker 1: just kind of left that one be. But there's it
Speaker 1: lines up way too well.
Speaker 2: But that also maybe the more you dig, maybe you
Speaker 2: could always just find something a connection between weird things.
Speaker 2: That's the more you dig, you know that's true.
Speaker 1: You're looking for an answer, You'll find it eventually. Exactly
Speaker 1: so that that is a theory. It's the most well
Speaker 1: established one, I guess because of all those coincidences. The
Speaker 1: final theory is the strangest and most unlikely theory. But
Speaker 1: it's my favorite because it's way out there and I
Speaker 1: like to entertain these kind of ideas and this kind
Speaker 1: of shit. Okay, it's called the elevator game. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: the elevator Game, also known as a Korean elevator game,
Speaker 1: and Elevator to Another World, Elevator to Hell. It's got
Speaker 1: a bunch of different names. The game involves entering an
Speaker 1: elevator along entering an elevator alone have a building of
Speaker 1: at least ten stories high. The player has to follow
Speaker 1: a very specific set of rules, pressing different buttons to
Speaker 1: go to different floors, and if you press these sequence
Speaker 1: of buttons correctly, you proceed to a whole different dimension
Speaker 1: indoor world.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so.
Speaker 2: Some people try this.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of tempted to.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just like, let's do that when you're on
Speaker 2: your own, not when I'm with you.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna leave me so I can go, Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, that's just creepy. That's creepy.
Speaker 1: It's definitely creepy, and they say it's best done at
Speaker 1: night because you know, you can't be interrupted, is why
Speaker 1: you can't be interrupted, and if you interrupt, if you're interrupted,
Speaker 1: you have to start over. So at night there's less
Speaker 1: people around, less people.
Speaker 2: But also just like I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: at night you're more freaked out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that theory suggest that maybe Lisa, Elisa sorry,
Speaker 1: was playing this game and she summoned some sort of
Speaker 1: something or someone interesting. Yeah, so officially her death was
Speaker 1: declared as drowning with contributing factor of bipolar disorder, but
Speaker 1: we have these other theories out there and a lot
Speaker 1: of people are not quite at rest and whether it
Speaker 1: is a murder, whether it's a tuberculosis cover up, whether
Speaker 1: it's an elevator to hell. All we do know is
Speaker 1: that Alisa had a very tragic passion here.
Speaker 2: She was just out trying to make her life a
Speaker 2: bit more exciting, and this shit happens like that's brutal.
Speaker 1: Exactly, And I'm going to scroll back here on my tablet.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, how's that been going good?
Speaker 1: Actually, I think I might need to use a bit
Speaker 1: of a bigger font.
Speaker 2: You or just get the glasses, like you need Shut up.
Speaker 2: I'm not that old yet you need glasses.
Speaker 1: I want to end this podcast on a little bit
Speaker 1: of a note here. This note was what she has
Speaker 1: at the top of her blogs. I already read it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it again. Okay, you're always haunted by
Speaker 1: the idea you're wasting your life. It's almost like like
Speaker 1: she wrote her own obituary, no kidding, or.
Speaker 2: Like what should be on her gravestone. Really, it just
Speaker 2: kind of gives you a little bit of shivers, it does.
Speaker 2: It's sad.
Speaker 1: So that is the story of Alisa Lamb. Go check
Speaker 1: out the next Netflix series. There's four episodes on it.
Speaker 1: There is a deep, deep hole you can go into
Speaker 1: on the internet.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and go check out that cc TV footage link below,
Speaker 1: and her blogs are down below. Give her a read.
Speaker 1: We'll give her some support. Even though she's gone, you
Speaker 1: can still read what she wrote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can still support her, for sure. It's it's
Speaker 2: very sad. It's so sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, So I do have a little bit
Speaker 1: of good news at the end of this episode, though.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are.
Speaker 1: Going to start a little mini series for everyone out there,
Speaker 1: have an episode coming out every Tuesday. Everyone knows that,
Speaker 1: but randomly once in a while to give you guys
Speaker 1: a little boost of serotonin. We're coming out with a
Speaker 1: mini episode called Legend. Has it cover urban legends, ghost stories,
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, And we're gonna be coming out
Speaker 1: with a little episode this week for you guys. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you what day it is. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna drop it out on little Bonus. Yeah, drop it
Speaker 1: out on Instagram, say here it is, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: drop it out there on our Spotify, Apple podcast the
Speaker 1: Whole World, so you can go find and listen to us.
Speaker 1: So if you're listening on Tuesday, you got maybe a
Speaker 1: day two, three maybe and it'll be out. If you're
Speaker 1: listening later in the week, could already be out. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going over the whole elevator game. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about that in depth.
Speaker 2: And it's just a little bonus. It's a little bit
Speaker 2: shorter than the normal podcast, exactly right.
Speaker 1: It's not just a little fun throw it in there
Speaker 1: once in a while, like I said, for that boost
Speaker 1: to serotonin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: So until that episode comes out and until next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: What do we say it again, Nicole?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I need to say one more thing here.
Speaker 2: Well well done. That was really well done. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: that thoroughly. And I want people We're going to do
Speaker 2: a post on Tuesday. I want to hear what people think,
Speaker 2: like what was their theory, what do they think happened?
Speaker 2: I want to know, so like, go comment on the
Speaker 2: post and tell us because I love actually hearing what
Speaker 2: other people think of, like their theories and stuff.
Speaker 1: And we've already been contacted by one of our listeners, Nirvana.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's actually stayed at the Cecil Hotel, not
Speaker 1: too long for the whole Alisa Lamb incident. And she
Speaker 1: sent us some photos from her stay there, so we'll
Speaker 1: be posting that on her Instagram.
Speaker 2: That's super cool. Yeah, and yeah, there's probably other people
Speaker 2: out there that have stayed there.
Speaker 1: I hear these stories. I want to hear, so we'll
Speaker 1: hear those stories. We'll drop our story the Elevator game,
Speaker 1: and we'll keep posting some wicked stuff.
Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, finish it off, Ben, all
Speaker 1: Right, stay wicked guys, see you later,