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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cliff and Bobo. These guys a favorites, so like

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<v Speaker 2>say subscribe and rade it.

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<v Speaker 1>Five star and me Greatest Gone Yesterday and listening watching

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<v Speaker 1>limb always keep it Squatchy. And now you're hosts Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Berrickman and James Bobo Fay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Squatch, geteers out there and Bigfoot and Beyond land.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Cliff from Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes Bobo. Bobo is not going to be here today.

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<v Speaker 2>He was almost here. In fact, we're starting almost an

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<v Speaker 2>hour late because he was almost here for almost an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, technological problems haunt Bobo. So anyway, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>about this guest because Bobo told me about this guy

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<v Speaker 2>this past week, says, Dude, we got to have this

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<v Speaker 2>guy on. Dude, He's blah blah blah, Boba blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. And I'm thinking, oh, well, Bobo's blah blawing

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<v Speaker 2>at me. It must be amazing, right, So Bobo lined

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<v Speaker 2>them up. But I love this because see, Bobo's already

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<v Speaker 2>spent like an hour on the phone with peers. Peeris

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<v Speaker 2>is this guy's name? I've never met the guy we

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<v Speaker 2>started talking an hour ago on the phone here when

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to get Bobo to get his technological act together.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I have never heard this story, so I

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<v Speaker 2>am hearing it for the first time, just like you

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners are hearing this story for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that in mind, pieris how you doing, man?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm good. I mean you you give me

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<v Speaker 1>way too much accreditation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know your witness and witnesses are are are

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<v Speaker 2>to be listened to. And Bobo's said some great things

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<v Speaker 2>about your encounter. And just so you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty friendly guy and or nothing to be worried about.

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<v Speaker 2>I know sasquatches are real. I'm not here to make

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<v Speaker 2>fun of anybody. I'm just here to listen to what

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<v Speaker 2>you have to say and get some perspective from what

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<v Speaker 2>you've learned from this whole event. But let's let's learn

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<v Speaker 2>a bit a little bit about who you are first.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us maybe what you do for a living,

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<v Speaker 2>or where you live, or any of that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to give us a background on who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm in Tennessee. I've lived all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Vietnam, for a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Tanzania for a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to college in Germany. So I've lived all

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<v Speaker 1>over the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you in the service or something. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that's a lot of countries to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not not exactly, no, but yeah, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing life. And you know, my one encounter with

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<v Speaker 1>the sasquatch happened in Colorado. I was in Colorado for

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<v Speaker 1>seven years and had an event company, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I had my encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>And when when did this encounter happen?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like ninety nine. I mean, I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I could be one one off either way, but ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine January is what I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>What were you doing? Like, because you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>run into sasquatches in Boulder, for example. You don't run

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<v Speaker 2>into sasquatches in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>Aspen is really unique in the fact that it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Vancouver in the fact that is it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like an island unto itself. I mean, there's force all

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<v Speaker 1>around you, there's food for bears and stuff all around you,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't hibernate there. I mean, because they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>into town and they and they go, they run rough

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<v Speaker 1>shot over your trash cans and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, I've never been to Aspen. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the places in Coloradi I have yet to visit. So

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<v Speaker 2>is it pretty deep snow in January during during Aspen?

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<v Speaker 1>It can be, it can be for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>What about this particular winner, I mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>Started snowing when I had my moment, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was. It's always snowing a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it snow's like eleven months out of the year there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh geez, really, I wouldn't like it there very much then,

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<v Speaker 2>although I heard it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really pretty. But the whole point was I was

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<v Speaker 1>going out to this Pine Creek Cookhouse, which is amazing

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<v Speaker 1>the way, if you ever get a chance to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>do this at a restaurant or it's a restaurant and

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<v Speaker 1>it's out in the wilderness and fantastic food and they

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<v Speaker 1>specialize and really exotic meats and stuff. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>caribou and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let tho's pause on that for a minute, like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm always interested in that kind of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>they have cariboos? Do they have do they have elk?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>What about moose or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Moose, buffalo everything, And that was the place of the

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<v Speaker 1>sighting and the way you get there in the winter time,

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<v Speaker 1>you have two choices. You can cross country ski up

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<v Speaker 1>to it, or you take a sleigh ride on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an old, fat guy like me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this is a different level of restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not what I was expecting at all. That's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. It's pretty spectacular. And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>there with some friends and you know, we cross country

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<v Speaker 1>skied up there. I was in my twenties then, well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe thirties, but okay, don't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I mean, so, you know, we hiked up to

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<v Speaker 1>the spot and had a great dinner, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>the last ones to leave, and because we're just hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out having a good time, and it got to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where there were probably like three people left in

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<v Speaker 1>the building other than us, and it got to be

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<v Speaker 1>obvious it was time to leave the premises, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we were heading downhill, and as luck would have it,

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<v Speaker 1>I failed to zip up my green north Face jacket

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<v Speaker 1>that had my keys in it, so my keys fell

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<v Speaker 1>in the snow and it's snowing, so that's that's there's

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<v Speaker 1>some good news. So so we get all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to the bottom and this is about I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one point one miles I think somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>that range. And we get there and we pull up

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<v Speaker 1>the car. I mean, you take off your skis and

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<v Speaker 1>you take off your visor that has a headlamp. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that you know allows you to not take a

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<v Speaker 1>header off a footfall or something. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not real bright, neither of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>So so anyway, so we get down the hill and

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<v Speaker 3>uh I pull up to the car and uh I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the keys, and.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends are a little looking at me, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are from out of town. They're from from Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh I just said, I got to go get

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<v Speaker 1>my keys, and and they said, you're never going to

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<v Speaker 1>find your keys, Like, I mean, it's snowing. We just

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<v Speaker 1>ran downhill with this thing or or ski downhill. You're

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<v Speaker 1>never going to find your keys. But these keys are

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<v Speaker 1>my house keys, my work keys, everything, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way I'm going to leave that behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your life is on these key chains. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>losing your wallet or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because I mean, it's easy for them to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we can catch a taxi and you can go back home, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't get into my home without my keys. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't go into work the next day without them. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have a car to drive without those keys too.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, you know what, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 4>find my keys. So I actually walked back up, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was not skiing at this point, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I walked back up, and I put the head lamp

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<v Speaker 5>back on my head, and I put one lamp and

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<v Speaker 5>each of each hands, so I had basically three lamps

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<v Speaker 5>going on, and I just slowly walked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and when I say slowly, I mean slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a mile plus, you know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where it could have fallen out. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking I'm going to kick something up or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to kick something up, and so I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>very careful about that. And then I'm focusing my head

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<v Speaker 1>lamps on the on my feet because that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>figure I'm going to find the keys. And this fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward times like thirty minutes because at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the hill, I'm about to give up, and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>saw the fob sticking out of the of the snow

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<v Speaker 1>because it was there was a tree that had blocked

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<v Speaker 1>some of the snow, thankfully for me, because the story

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<v Speaker 1>would be indifferently proly. But anyway, so I picked the

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<v Speaker 1>keys up and I thought, man, that's that's a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>What a huge breath of release. I relief that must

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<v Speaker 2>have been. This is insane. Just the stress off your

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I put them in and zipped up my coat.

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<v Speaker 1>I tucked it away, and I thought, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>thank you God moment.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always an opportunity for gratitude, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then I heard this deep breathing off the side.

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<v Speaker 1>And get your attention, because you are in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you're when you when you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Pine Creek cook House, you're in the wilderness. Get me,

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<v Speaker 1>no wrong, this is the wilderness. So I'm honestly I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that it's a mountain lion or a bear or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a bear, I could deal with mountain line

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<v Speaker 1>then they can be cagy. So I mean, I was

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<v Speaker 1>honestly more afraid the fact that it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain line than anything. And I shined the light on it,

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<v Speaker 1>the lights plural on it, and this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain line, and it steps out. It takes a linebacker stance.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty accurate on on height, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>people want to say, you know, they're twelve feet tall

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. It was like seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half feet tall, seven to five. So that's what you said.

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<v Speaker 2>It stepped out.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it behind a tree or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it was leaning up against the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>building to try to be invisible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was leaning against the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaning against the restaurant because it was trying to not

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<v Speaker 1>be seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I didn't realize we're back at the restaurant. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was like en route to the restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a poor rendition of the No.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's why I'm here, man, keeping us on track. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was leaning against the restaurant, which is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because you got to wonder why was it going to

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant. I wonder if there was an outside grease

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<v Speaker 2>trap or something it was rating on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what David asked me.

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<v Speaker 2>David Ellis when you spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 1>David Ellis, Yeah, he asked me about that, which again

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<v Speaker 1>my answer would be, I don't know, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>no tree to hide behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's leaning against the restaurant almost kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a plain view in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it's it's complete darkness, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm illuminating that with the with the light,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was trying to not be seen. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as that it recognized that it was on pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view here, you know, I mean, it stepped out and

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<v Speaker 1>These these are my words, clearly, and it just took

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<v Speaker 1>a posture that was basically permitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so he or she because I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>So it bent his knees, the knees and the hands

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just a ready, ready pose. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know another way to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Cliff, So like again, I'm not much of a sports guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of like just like two guys ready to

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay, I'm just trying to kind of trying

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was it was ready to uh handle me,

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<v Speaker 1>which which would have taken nothing, but okay, would have

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<v Speaker 1>taken nothing. But I mean once once it was on

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<v Speaker 1>full display, like it just gave of the ghost and

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<v Speaker 1>just said, hey, look I'm here. Now what And I

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was part of the deal here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to find my keys and go back to

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

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<v Speaker 1>It squared off with me, and it's staring at me.

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<v Speaker 1>And people want to say they have these crazy eyes

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. That's not true. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I saw. I mean they were deep set eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were intense and it was obvious. It was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely a It's a creature. It's not something out of

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<v Speaker 1>some fairy tale. I mean, this is a real thing

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<v Speaker 1>and you're looking at it and you have to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>it and give it some respect and give it some room.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It kind of waited me out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was waiting it out, and I thought, obviously, your first

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<v Speaker 1>thought is to run, right, I mean, if you're encountering

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<v Speaker 1>a lion or something, you're going to run, but that.

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<v Speaker 2>Could trigger Yeah, you may not want to. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought maybe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Could trigger some some thing in its mind that I

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<v Speaker 1>should be pursued. If I do that. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>sat there and staring at it and staring at me,

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<v Speaker 1>and this went on for roughly fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen seconds. And how about about how far apart were

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<v Speaker 2>you at that time?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty feet twenty five feet?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five feet holy smoked, okay, so twenty to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five feet. Were there any lights coming off the building

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<v Speaker 2>or anything, or your headlamps the only thing illumining?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing? Nothing, okay with cloudy?

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<v Speaker 2>It was cloudy thing because you said it was snowing,

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<v Speaker 2>so the moon wasn't out either.

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<v Speaker 1>It was snowing. And I looked at the building because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to find refuge, because I thought, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that might be an option because the other ray

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<v Speaker 1>is like a mile and a half down the hill

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<v Speaker 1>or one point one miles anywhere down the hill, and

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<v Speaker 1>by that time I'm not gonna make it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I I glanced at the building and the lights

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<v Speaker 1>are all out, all out, and I think the people

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<v Speaker 1>that work there probably had between the time of us

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<v Speaker 1>leaving and me getting back to that spot, they had

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<v Speaker 1>already gone home, and so everything was dark. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean again, I mean, if you asked me to guess. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>probably at times people leave food out or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or trash out maybe, but that'd be just a pure guess, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know. It was just there and anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm squaring off with this guy or girl and

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<v Speaker 1>it has this low growl that is absolutely unique to

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<v Speaker 1>anything I've ever heard. I mean, like when a dog

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<v Speaker 1>growls at you, it has this kind of consistent like

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<v Speaker 1>thing us and it might have to catch his breath,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be the same growl. This did

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<v Speaker 1>not sound like that it was modulated. That gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a little pause too, because I thought at some point

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I mean, it's got something to say.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say modulated, do you mean like it went

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<v Speaker 2>up like like up and down in pitch or did

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<v Speaker 2>it slow and it's rumbles or what do you mean

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<v Speaker 2>by the word modulated, because it could mean a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different things to a lot of different people, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to get as accurate a picture as

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<v Speaker 2>i can.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, the best rendition would would be if

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<v Speaker 1>you would were to play play David's.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right, Maybe that's good. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>good time to bring that in because You've already spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about this to David Ellis, who's a fantastic researcher, a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Olympic Project, good friend of ours, been

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<v Speaker 2>on the show before, super Smart Guy too, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>super Smart Guy, And he has a recording apparently that

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<v Speaker 2>matches this really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Identical, except this is deeper. It's deeper, but it's identical

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<v Speaker 1>other than that, and it goes up and down and

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<v Speaker 1>it almost mimics voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the magic of editing. We'll have Matt prut put

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<v Speaker 2>that into the episode right now so our listeners can

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<v Speaker 2>hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had heard that before, because well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly I did in real time, but but I had

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<v Speaker 1>not heard the episode that you had on. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was sixty five, episode sixty five, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know David. Then I know David, and I think David's

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<v Speaker 1>a great guy. He's a super super smart guy.

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<v Speaker 8>So to listen to him and gain some wisdom from that,

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<v Speaker 8>you know that that gave me some insight that I

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<v Speaker 8>did not previously have.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to give him some big old shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it was staring off at me and growling,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never felt threatened. I honestly didn't feel threatened,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought that it had chosen its ground and

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<v Speaker 1>just said, basically like this is my this is my assumption,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is where the line ends. That was my intake.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the line ends here. Everything after this is real,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I just waited them out.

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<v Speaker 2>And how long did you have to wait before the

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<v Speaker 2>next move happened? And I'm sure that seemed much longer

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<v Speaker 2>than it actually was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, I mean considering this, all right, so five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds sound like five minutes. I mean I didn't never

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<v Speaker 1>stop watch, but I think the whole thing was probably

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen or twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is an eternity when you're actually there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, when you're yeah, when you're squaring off with

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<v Speaker 1>something that can end you. Yes, of course.

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<v Speaker 8>And it took its hands again, I'm gonna say it,

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<v Speaker 8>because I don't know if it's a male or female.

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<v Speaker 2>It works for us, the word it works for the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the sasquatch cupped its hands. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>this distinctly because there's only a couple of things I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at right now, and what I'm looking at is

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to physically be a problem, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the hands in the mouth. That's the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm staring at. That's the only thing I'm shining a

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<v Speaker 1>light on at this point. I mean, people ask me, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>does it does it have big feet? How do I know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's snowing, so I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if I didn't know, I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to stare his feet. I'm worried about these gigantic hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean in the face, and it's almost I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say it's a human face because that

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be wrong. But it's close. It's real close.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if someone didn't shave for five weeks or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, it'd be real close. And the intensity

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<v Speaker 1>of the stair I'm never going to forget that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never going to forget that. That was something that will

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<v Speaker 1>resonate with me forever.

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<v Speaker 8>And then when it put its hands together and it

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<v Speaker 8>clapped and it did this with this cupped hand thing

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<v Speaker 8>it did and it sounded like again I don't want

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<v Speaker 8>to sound like a crazy person, but it sounded like

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<v Speaker 8>a door getting shut on a seventies car.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded exactly like that, exactly like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty three years old. So I remember those times

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<v Speaker 1>and when you would close the door, it has this

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<v Speaker 1>deep clunk noise, and that's exactly what it sounded like,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's a deal. Anybody who says that they would

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<v Speaker 2>have done something different wasn't there and has no right

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<v Speaker 2>to say so, because I don't know if anybody has

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<v Speaker 2>been big footing for a while, or any any witness

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<v Speaker 2>like yourself who's a purely accidental witness. Right to be

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation is entirely different than planning to be

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation. And you never know what you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>You never can predict, So how can you do and

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<v Speaker 2>dig a picture of it? All those questions? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>can see how someone would ask that, but there's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Having been in those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Over and above that, I think someone who that says

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<v Speaker 1>that they can prepare for that, they're lying too. They're

423
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<v Speaker 1>lying to themselves, because you know, once you're there and

424
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you're facing the storm, it's different. I mean it's different,

425
00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, you can say all day long

426
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.319
<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna do, Okay, I'm gonna under these circumstances,

427
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm gonna do. Oh yeah, that's that's

428
00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>great barroom talk. But you know, when you're in the moment,

429
00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know when when a lion looks you in the face,

430
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<v Speaker 1>then you have it your own come to Jesus moment,

431
00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:59.440
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. And that's what I had. And you

432
00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.559
<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't some paranormal thing it was. It was

433
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 1>a feral thing that I was just I was. I

434
00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>was intimidated. I'll tell you right now. I was.

435
00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Anybody would have been. So did it clap once?

436
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>One time? That's all too one clap And that clap

437
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.599
<v Speaker 1>was loud. Dude, it was loud. It was really like

438
00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>slamming a door. But I mean, you have to understand,

439
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>these hands are huge. They're huge, They're huge, they're cartoonish. Again,

440
00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to reference David one more time, because David

441
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:37.279
<v Speaker 1>asked me, he said, did it use his mouth to

442
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.519
<v Speaker 1>combine that with the with the And the truth is,

443
00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, because the only thing at

444
00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.599
<v Speaker 1>that point I'm looking at our hands because that's what

445
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I think is about to rip me in three pieces.

446
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Now I've got a question about it, and I know

447
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm really nitpicking here, but I'm curious if maybe if

448
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.519
<v Speaker 2>I ask you, maybe you remember something or maybe you

449
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<v Speaker 2>notice what I'm when it clapped, you know, like imagine

450
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:03.920
<v Speaker 2>sitting in a seat watching a presentation, and then afterwards

451
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.319
<v Speaker 2>you clap your arm. Your elbows would be bent, probably

452
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.279
<v Speaker 2>about ninety degrees or so, and you'd be clapping in

453
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<v Speaker 2>Your hands would be six inches or a foot away

454
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.440
<v Speaker 2>from chest or your chest? Was that like the position

455
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that clapped? Or how did this sing clap? How did

456
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the arms move when they came together?

457
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.559
<v Speaker 1>It was just a lightning strike. I mean it was

458
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>both hands wide apart coming together.

459
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Were the arms extended when the hands connected or were

460
00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 2>they bent? If you remember and I don't know, it

461
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>is always an acceptable answer.

462
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean to tell you the truth. I'm not sure

463
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:37.079
<v Speaker 1>fair enough, fair enough.

464
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you were a little overwhelmed at the time.

465
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean from my recollection, they came from

466
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<v Speaker 1>wide apart and it just it just collapsed his hands

467
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.559
<v Speaker 1>into each other. And whether they're bent or not, I

468
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know.

469
00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, your description kind of reminds me of is

470
00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like a grandmother trying to scare away a from a picnic.

471
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>In a way, you know, like these faster, hey you

472
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>get out of here sort of things. There's something about

473
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 2>what you're describing that reminds me of that.

474
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.599
<v Speaker 1>It's the same effect because I left.

475
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's what I wanted to ask you. Because

476
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>even those Sasquatches are not humans, and it's hard to

477
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 2>get inside their head, and they don't speak English or

478
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>whatever o their language.

479
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>We're still all apes. We're still all apes.

480
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And they're very effective communicators. What did you feel it

481
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.839
<v Speaker 2>was communicating to you by that clap? Or was even

482
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>for you? I don't know.

483
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It was time to leave the situation. That's that's what

484
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I got, you know, it was it was okay for

485
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 1>a minute, and it's like, all right, you need to

486
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 1>go home. And I was like, you know what, I

487
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>got no problem with that. I have no problem with that.

488
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 2>And is that what you did? What happened next?

489
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I face planted like three times run downhill

490
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.039
<v Speaker 1>because I'm running in snow.

491
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So you turned and ran at that point, Yes, once.

492
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You decide that it's time to exit stage right, you know,

493
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't do it, you know, in a

494
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>wonderful way.

495
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no grace at that point.

496
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 1>It's no grace because I mean you you know, and

497
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking. I've had had people ask me, Hey, did

498
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you look behind you and see what's coming? It's like, no, no,

499
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I did not. I did not.

500
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you might see it, why would you look?

501
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you see it, it's over. I mean

502
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the thing could have overturned me in a half second.

503
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, if it's behind me, it's behind me.

504
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 1>And I'll never find out. You know, the thing that

505
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>struck me is not the height, it's the width. Honestly,

506
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the width is what probably stood out to me.

507
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Is it just a shoulder with or with of the

508
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.039
<v Speaker 2>whole torso or or.

509
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 1>With of the shoulder with shoulder with was like four

510
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and a half feet wide? And you know, you know,

511
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I've shared this story with friends and they're like, hey,

512
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, four feet wise, it's not the big deal. No,

513
00:26:59.200 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal.

514
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal on a seven and a half

515
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>foot tall one, it is. Yeah, it's a big deal.

516
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 1>And they're perfectly sculpted, let's put it that way. Yeah,

517
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 1>this thing is definitely worked out. I mean I don't

518
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 1>want to fight it, that's for sure.

519
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I happen to be sitting at the

520
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.759
<v Speaker 2>desk here at the North American Bigfoot Center, and all

521
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 2>over this museum here we have tape measures. I'm measuring

522
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>my shoulders now, and I'm not a big man. I'm

523
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 2>five foot eight tall as long as I'm not slouching,

524
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm measuring my shoulders right now, and they are

525
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 2>basically twenty one inches, and I'm fairly broad shouldered. I

526
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 2>get I think for my height, twenty one inches.

527
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:43.839
<v Speaker 1>So take the times two point three exactly exactly. Anyone

528
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't understand how big that is doesn't get it.

529
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's absolutely would cut out the sun. That's great.

530
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I've got to congratulate you on

531
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 2>your math skills, you know, because twenty two inches times

532
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>two point three is fifty point six. It's like a

533
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, four foot Uh.

534
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've got a real good friend of mine. He

535
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>played for the Mavericks. He's uh he's six foot eleven

536
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 1>and uh yon mahemi he was. He played for the

537
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Mavericks when they won the championship with Dirk Novisky, and

538
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>so I got a pretty good, you know, reference point

539
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of height and stuff. And this was taller, but the

540
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>width was amazingly different. I mean, there's there's no human

541
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that could fill that, no way, you know. And and

542
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had people ask me like, oh, you

543
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 1>think somebody was wearing some suit or something like that.

544
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Why in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of nowhere,

545
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>why would they do that? And that's not possible. And

546
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't even fill it out if they tried. It'd

547
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 1>be like making a prank phone call to a to

548
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 1>a number that you know won't pick up. Like that's

549
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen.

550
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and with Cliff and Bogo

551
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 2>will be right back after these messages.

552
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>The only reason, the only reason that I saw this

553
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch was the fact that I dropped my keys in

554
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the snow and I went downhill and I came back

555
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 1>up real slow and real quiet, and it's snowing and

556
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm down in so it can't smell me, you can't

557
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>hear me because I'm basically just shuffling my feet to

558
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 1>try to churn up my keys. And uh, and I

559
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>just stumbled upon it and it was probably like focused

560
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>on some other stuff, and you know, you know, David

561
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>David Ellis asked me. He's like, hey, was there a

562
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 1>trash can outside? I don't know. I don't know. I mean,

563
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.079
<v Speaker 1>you think I'm going to go back and look, No,

564
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a check sign right there. Man. When

565
00:29:58.400 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it's time to go home. It's time to go home.

566
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was haven't been back. Actually, you know,

567
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I have not been back. And they have great food.

568
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a great place, you know. I just you know,

569
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 1>that was my little moment. And I'm not qualified to

570
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>be on this show. I'll be the first one to

571
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 1>say that.

572
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh I would. I would be the first one to

573
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>disagree with you. No, I'll due respect. I think you

574
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 2>had a fantastic encounter. That's close up and cool, and yeah,

575
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>you've got an interesting observation because you know, the vast

576
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 2>majority of sasquatch sighting reports seemed to be road crossings

577
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 2>or I saw it at a distance and it disappeared.

578
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>That kind of thing where there has very very little

579
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>information about about the animal. You know, it's a snapshot,

580
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to write a biography about a person

581
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 2>based on a snapshot. But in situations like this, where

582
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of a standoff and there's a

583
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 2>little bit of an interaction. Maybe almost you've observed the

584
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch doing something unusual that kind of broadens our understanding

585
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of their species and the things that's stand out to me.

586
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>It's so far, and I still have some questions for you,

587
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>by the way, but the things that stand out to

588
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>me so far about this is number one, it was

589
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>leaning against the building when you encountered it's okay, So

590
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>that tells me the thing goes to this building sometimes

591
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>for something, most likely food. So maybe it's raiding the

592
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>trash cans maybe, which is problematic because you can't tell

593
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 2>if sasquatches raid the trash cans because they very often

594
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 2>put the lids back on. They're not like bears in

595
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 2>that sort of way. Maybe there's a grease trap, because

596
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 2>that's been well documented in places out of Oklahoma, for example,

597
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a video of one of these things doing that thing.

598
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 2>And also, once it knew, it tried to hide, but

599
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>once it knew the gig was up, it kind of

600
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>squared off against you. It looks like or sounds like.

601
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>With that exception, that is exactly what happened.

602
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so it was ready to take you on.

603
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 1>It put me on notice.

604
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Because you put it on notice somehow exactly. And then

605
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of course the clapping thing was infinitely useful because it's

606
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>been a discussion for a long time. I've been putting

607
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>this out since at least two thousand and six or

608
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight, that sasquatches are doing more than

609
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>hitting trees with sticks. Man, They're they're clapping or making

610
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.839
<v Speaker 2>mouth and pop noises or something, or maybe all of

611
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>those things and more. And the more visual observations of

612
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 2>these kinds of behaviors, the more fuel we have for

613
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 2>that fire, the more evidence we have for that hypothesis,

614
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>which is by the way, supported by the other known

615
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 2>apes as well. Gorillas are well known to do the same.

616
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>The clunk noise definitely was hand to hand.

617
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is really cool because I personally heard car

618
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>door slamming in the woods and I had no idea

619
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>why they were that. There couldn't have been cars where

620
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I was, So that this is, you know, kind of

621
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>filling in that puzzle piece for people like me and

622
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 2>other people have heard similar things.

623
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>When it did that, my eyes got wide, like it

624
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 1>was just to me. It was it was expressing itself,

625
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>like you need to vacate the premises like, I mean,

626
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 1>like it was very clearly just going, you're not okay here,

627
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not okay here. And uh and so guess what,

628
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to be asked twice. I'm out in

629
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that moment. I mean it was, it was real. I

630
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know, primal, I guess, so to speak. I mean,

631
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just the way it did it. I mean you wouldn't

632
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't normally expect the sound to come out of that.

633
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>But the way it cupped its hands, I mean, I

634
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.319
<v Speaker 1>guess that's the way it does it.

635
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at Google Earth right now and I found

636
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Pine Creek Cookhouse. But it doesn't look like it's a

637
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>mile from the fifteen Highway.

638
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it's definitely one point one miles back then, So

639
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I haven't this is nineteen ninety nine, so.

640
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so maybe maybe if this highway is new or

641
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 2>something like that, because it looks like there's a road that.

642
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 1>Goes up to it at this point, could have changed.

643
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 2>But uh, where do you at Castle Creek trailhead?

644
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 1>By any chance that rings a bell? But I don't

645
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>know exactly. I mean, I mean, this is a long

646
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 1>time ago. It's a long time ago.

647
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It is that this is you know, like literally what

648
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:56.559
<v Speaker 2>thirty one?

649
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the whole this entire conversation came about because

650
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I asked Matt Preuit, you know, hey, or are there

651
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>any no one ever talks about sasquatches in Colorado? And

652
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I mean I guess, I mean maybe it's

653
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>not that common, but I saw one, and so I thought,

654
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 1>there's got to be. I can't be the only guy

655
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 1>who's seen one. It's not possible. There's no way as possible.

656
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 2>No, no, either. You know, Colorado is big country, man,

657
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of country, and they're not a ton

658
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>of people out there in that country. So there's that

659
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>contributes to there's no lack of reports from Colorado, but

660
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>there are fewer there than lots of other states where

661
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 2>people in humans.

662
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Which surprises me a lot, because I mean, I mean

663
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's teeming with it's squatchy as hell. Oh yeah,

664
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've got the trees, you've got rivers, you've

665
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>got fish, I mean, deer everywhere. I mean, it's just

666
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>made for that. Now, what was that?

667
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 2>What was that run run back to your car? Like,

668
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 2>what was going through your head at the time?

669
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Hall ass? I mean That's pretty much what I was thinking, like, okay.

670
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 2>We're sasquatches even on your radar before this absolute zero. No,

671
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 2>just just I'm sure, sure you've heard a big foot.

672
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 1>I certainly I know what a bigfoot is.

673
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>You just thought it was all hogwash.

674
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say I was plus or minus on that,

675
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't concerned with it. When you live in Colorado,

676
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, uh, you're your biggest fear is a mountain lion,

677
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 1>because they're they're really they're dangerous. You know, blackberries. I've

678
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>been nosed to those of the black bear, literally knows

679
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to those of the black bear, and and they're not

680
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 1>they're not a problem. I mean I went out one time.

681
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I was in my underwear and it was early in

682
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the morning. I'm probably not supposed to say this on

683
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the show, but I'm going to say it. So I

684
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>was just trying to take my trash out and my

685
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 1>German shepherd who always comes out with me, just set

686
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>this one out and he's and I thought, in hindsight,

687
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, something waiting on you. Yeah, you'll get

688
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 1>it there. Yeah. So I went to hung a left

689
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 1>out of my door, and that's right where my trash

690
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 1>can is and then I picked up the lid, and

691
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 1>then the bear stood up next to it, on the

692
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 1>opposite side of me, and we were probably i don't know,

693
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 1>eighteen inches apart or something like that, and the bear

694
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>hauled ass and I quickly retreated back to my home. Yeah, sure,

695
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't see that coming either. It's just just

696
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>just a random moment, just a random moment in your life.

697
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:39.559
<v Speaker 1>You know that you.

698
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Have stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff

699
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and Bobo. We'll be right back after these messages. Now,

700
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I hope you don't mind be saying this, but you

701
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>were a little concerned about coming on the podcast. You

702
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be made fun of, because.

703
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be made fun I've told the

704
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 1>story to people, and you know, people want to make

705
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you sound like you're crazy.

706
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what I wanted to ask you, like, how was

707
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 2>the really who did you tell first, and how did

708
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>they react? And what's been this what's been your experience

709
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 2>being a witness ever since?

710
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 1>It took me years to really tell anyone that was

711
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 1>of importance because I just try to digest that, Like,

712
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all right, so remember this, like I've got

713
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to get back to this car. I got to get

714
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>in this car and drive these people home.

715
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, they're all waiting for you down there. I forgot

716
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 2>about that.

717
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm driving them back to town and one

718
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 1>of one of the girls, her name was Shari, and

719
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>she says, you find your case. Said yep, that's all

720
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I said. It's all I said for like ten minutes straight, like,

721
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I just hopped in the car, drove down valley and

722
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>back to Aspen to drop them off. And you know,

723
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 1>one of the girls it was with us, her name

724
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was Julie, and uh, anyway, she was there and she's like,

725
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>anyone want to have a drink? Is like absolutely yes,

726
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 1>keep them going, absolutely yes. Does it come with a

727
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 1>pair of extra underwear? Yeah, because used both. Yeah. At

728
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that point in the answer to your question, you know

729
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 1>my story is pretty boring.

730
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not. No, Like, I don't know if you're

731
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 2>listening to the same story I'm listening to. This is great. Yeah,

732
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 2>this is fantastic. You saw it up close, You saw

733
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 2>it do cool things at a cool place that has

734
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>probably ought not to have been and it got caught.

735
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>This is fantastic, And I totally understand your your hesitation

736
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 2>to sharing because you don't want to be heckled. Because,

737
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>as you told me before we started recording, I'm just

738
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 2>telling the truth the way I experienced.

739
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 1>It, and that's it, and that's all you're gonna get. Yeah,

740
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that's all we ever asked for. I'm talking to you

741
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 1>online because it's important to me to tell the truth.

742
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And what I'm trying to say with this is I

743
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just want to move the needle forward a little bit

744
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>because the next person who sees it, and there's probably

745
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 1>been hundreds and thousands of people who've seen them, they

746
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 1>won't come up. They won't say it because they get ridiculed,

747
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>they get made fun of in their little small town

748
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

749
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>You know.

750
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Fast forward like twenty years from now, no problem. All

751
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the photos are going to come out of the woodshed.

752
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's got an uncle that had one, you know, But

753
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 1>right now, nobody's willing to go on the record.

754
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. How has it changed your life having this experience?

755
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Not just like being ridkilled by your friends and you know,

756
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 2>little minded folks that don't want to believe what you're saying,

757
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 2>but has it changed you and your outlook on things

758
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 2>or your relationships with the Wilder People or anything like that.

759
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Well that's a big question there, Cliff. But yeah, I

760
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>mean I mean for me personally, I like to camp,

761
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I like to hike, I like to fish. Nothing of

762
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 1>that is changed. It's never going to happen twice say that.

763
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>You say that, Well, I don't know, man. There's people

764
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.119
<v Speaker 2>have been struck by lightning more than a dozen times,

765
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.599
<v Speaker 2>and I mean by lightning, not big boots. You know,

766
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it can happen. I know, I know several multiple time witnesses.

767
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 1>It could happen. Again, Bubo's not online, so maybe it's

768
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen.

769
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>So well, Bubo's got his own by lightning curse.

770
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, I would say in my life hadn't

771
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 1>changed much. I mean, I'm just I've always just been

772
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>genuine person that I am. And it works for you,

773
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. I mean, frankly, y'all have been really cool

774
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>about making me comfortable having this conversation, because it's not

775
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.760
<v Speaker 1>an easy conversation to have. When you when you have

776
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with somebody and you can express yourself and

777
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 1>not be judged, that that's meaningful to me. So that's

778
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 1>important to me. So I want to give you some props.

779
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm to give some big old, big old dabs on

780
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 1>that so.

781
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, as I told you before we started recording, like,

782
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm an honest you know, and I therefore I assume

783
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>everybody else kind of is too, you know. And I

784
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 2>sure I get I make mistakes that way. People do

785
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 2>lie to me, and I believe them, But I think

786
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that says more about them than it does me, honestly,

787
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>you know. And and I and if I'm just open

788
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and honest with people, I would hope they're the same

789
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>with me. And I think I think you're being I'm

790
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 2>confident you're being honest with me. I have no problems

791
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 2>with that at all. And I hope that that comes

792
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 2>through in my attitude when I speak to Wiks.

793
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 1>It certainly does.

794
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.719
<v Speaker 2>It certainly does, Yeah, because I know they're real. I

795
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>know they're real. So yeah, just tell me what you

796
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 2>saw on Let's let's learn about learn a little bit

797
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 2>more about him, is my thought.

798
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 1>And for me, you know, it's not like I'm looking

799
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>for validation because I've already seen it, you know, I mean,

800
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's where you know, I really enjoyed

801
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 1>my conversation with David illis. Uh, I'm going to reference

802
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 1>him a lot because I really respect him a lot.

803
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>He deserves it.

804
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 2>He's a sweetheart.

805
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I love that guy. He's a good dude.

806
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 9>And uh and uh you know he's seen him and uh,

807
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 9>you know, in having a conversation with him, I mean,

808
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 9>he'd be the best psychiatrist you could ever ask for.

809
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Just a good, good human being and good soul.

810
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 2>So have you taken an interest to the subject now

811
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.480
<v Speaker 2>or you're like reading books and watching shows and like

812
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 2>listen to the podcasts.

813
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Always say, I'm not a bigfooter, but uh, you know,

814
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean trade but I mean I'd like to get

815
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>more into it. But I don't want to misrepresent myself too,

816
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 1>because you know, my encounter was just by chance, absolutely

817
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>happenstance chance And uh you know, I mean you could

818
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be the guy who studies everything out of the gate

819
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 1>and and never never come in contact because they're few

820
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 1>and far between. I just happened to run into into

821
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 1>that moment.

822
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 2>The vast majority of witnesses are just are people just

823
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 2>like you, you know, who accidentally saw something they never expected.

824
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And there are you know, I know a little bit

825
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 2>about bigfoots. I know a lot about the subject, a

826
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:05.599
<v Speaker 2>little bit about the animals. I don't know if I'm

827
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 2>expert or not.

828
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 1>But well, you're certainly more expertise than me.

829
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I certainly have a passion for the subject.

830
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and y'll have been doing y'all have been doing

831
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it for a long time too, So I feel like

832
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of cutting in line, so to speak.

833
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Cutting in line. I love the way you talk, man.

834
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>You have some really great things to say, you know,

835
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 2>blocked out the moon or the sun. I love your stuff,

836
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and you have away with words and it's hilarious. I

837
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 2>love it. You paint a really good picture.

838
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I mean hopefully I related everything I could say.

839
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you have any other questions, you're certainly

840
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>welcome to reach out.

841
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you did a great job, man, I mean,

842
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just fantastic. You got the totally serendipitous events where you, oh, man,

843
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 2>my keys dropped that you walked up and you found

844
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 2>your keys, which is a good thing, of course, and

845
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch happened to be there. You had this momentary standoff.

846
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>It was a yet but moment from God.

847
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, holy smokes, right.

848
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you one and enridge.

849
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.119
<v Speaker 2>You one exactly, I fold and then you folded, and

850
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 2>then you turned and ran tail down the mountain, hop

851
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 2>back in cars.

852
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Face planet three times exactly, three times in the snow.

853
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 1>I came up with snow on my face like some

854
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 1>idiot running from the wind with keys until.

855
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the Big Foy was laughing at you all

856
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the way. It probably probably clapping at your your your

857
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 2>performance all the way.

858
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>It was probably was like, watch this thing, let's let's

859
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 1>wind him up, let's see what he can got.

860
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was fantastic. I love the story. You have

861
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 2>such a way with words. You're and you can just

862
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I love the way you presented everything. That's just the

863
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 2>way it is.

864
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Man.

865
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.360
<v Speaker 2>There's the whole attitude of you with the entire evening, like, hey,

866
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>this is it. I don't know, that's it. That's what

867
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I saw. Take it or leave it, and I'll take it. Man.

868
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 2>It was great. It was a wonderful report. Super cool.

869
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I've been taking notes the entire time. I'm adding to

870
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>this to my my database, so you're gonna be added

871
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>on to the twelve or fifteen hundred reports I have

872
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>on my database, my Colorado files. A little light to

873
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, So thank you for helping me

874
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>with that. And you're just a fantastic guest. I don't

875
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>know how you feel about it. In a way I care,

876
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>in a way I don't because I know you're a

877
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 2>fantastic guest. I hope you agree with me. And if

878
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't, sorry, people are gonna love this episode.

879
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And I have a way way wards. You do you do?

880
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>You do well?

881
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>You know what? I also straight? I also shoot straight.

882
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, you know. I hope we have a

883
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 1>chance one day to shake hands as some boy. That'd

884
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:32.559
<v Speaker 1>be cool.

885
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 2>That'd be great, That'd be great. I've got I got

886
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>a couple of jobs in Tennessee. I'm gonna be out

887
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>there late in the year.

888
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll be there.

889
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll show up, all right. So yeah, hopefully next week

890
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:44.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll be back with Bobo and Pierce. Thank you so

891
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>much for coming on the show. I'm sorry Bobo could

892
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>be here too, but I'm glad I was. You have

893
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:49.599
<v Speaker 2>an amazing story and I think all of our listeners

894
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 2>are going to really enjoy this one. So thank you

895
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 2>so much for your time. So okay, everybody, big Foot

896
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and Beyond land out there all my Squatch gteer friends,

897
00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:00.119
<v Speaker 2>my bfs, my big Foot and Beyond friends. Thank you

898
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>so much for tuning in this week. We're gonna have

899
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>another fantastic guest or some something to talk about next week.

900
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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what's gonna go on? Who knows? I don't

901
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>even know, and I'm the host of this show. But

902
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever's gonna be, it's gonna be great. I'm gonna be here,

903
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>hopefully Bobo's gonna be here, and you'll be here too.

904
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<v Speaker 2>Really really appreciate you guys listening. And uh, we've got shwag.

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907
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<v Speaker 2>We have a membership section, so there's gonna be an

908
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<v Speaker 2>extra forty five minutes or an hour of content released

909
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910
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<v Speaker 2>click that link that Matt pru will put down there.

914
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe you want to be a member of Bigfoot

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916
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917
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918
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919
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