Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there. I was done.
Speaker 2: I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult
Speaker 2: is one of the things that turned.
Speaker 1: Me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,
Speaker 1: it turned and looked at us. And one of the
Speaker 1: things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red.
Speaker 1: I see an orb of light. It is just circling
Speaker 1: these steps.
Speaker 3: Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to
Speaker 3: tell them that he saw a UFO.
Speaker 2: They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 3: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
Speaker 3: and that's where I saw.
Speaker 2: The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes.
Speaker 1: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing.
Speaker 1: I don't like death.
Speaker 2: I like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight, Jeremy.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming here and talking to me.
Speaker 1: My pleasure. Always a pleasure to hop on and talk
Speaker 1: paranormal to anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you like to let the audience know a
Speaker 2: little bit about yourself before we dive into it?
Speaker 1: Sure? I am the host of Paranormal The New Normal going.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many episodes it long, but it's
Speaker 1: been three years so it's a lot of episodes at
Speaker 1: this point, and I'm also the co host of Maniaco
Speaker 1: Music Musics, which just topped one hundred episodes a couple
Speaker 1: months ago, So nice, I got both of them. The
Speaker 1: bunchos listen to I've Been Told.
Speaker 2: Nice, you reached out to me a while back, and
Speaker 2: it kind of got lost in the shuffle, like a
Speaker 2: huge influx of people emailing me, and I thought I
Speaker 2: responded back, and I reached back out to you. I
Speaker 2: was like, did I ever ever said something?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 2: No, So my apologies to that one, but glad to
Speaker 2: have you come on here tonight. Before we get into like,
Speaker 2: is there anything specifically as to why you are interested
Speaker 2: in the things you're interested in? Like what drew you
Speaker 2: to the paranormal?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean childhood fascination basically let me down
Speaker 1: the road to the paranormal. It I just want to know,
Speaker 1: want to know about things that science couldn't exactly prove.
Speaker 1: And from there it just ruin waned and grew and
Speaker 1: waned all throughout my life until other paranormal podcasts out there,
Speaker 1: like mine, all of a sudden sparked my interest yet
Speaker 1: again in paranormal podcasting. And oh my paranormal. And when
Speaker 1: it was time for me to start my own podcasts
Speaker 1: after leaving a group podcast, I just said, like, what
Speaker 1: do I know? And I'm like, I know paranormal. I've
Speaker 1: heard enough first hand experiences on podcasts and in books
Speaker 1: and online and everything else that I can for my
Speaker 1: own damn theories and sure people are going to love them.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't wrong, so it kind of worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of I always feel like something happens
Speaker 2: with somebody that triggers them to go down the pathway
Speaker 2: they go into, like especially when it comes to podcasting,
Speaker 2: because rarely does someone not have something of interesting they
Speaker 2: just start doing like paranormal activity stuff or any type
Speaker 2: of weird sort of podcast. Like I always feel like
Speaker 2: someone has to have something that pushes them in that direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's always something, And I mean I
Speaker 1: joined another podcast of pop culture related nothing to do
Speaker 1: a paranormal and you know, it's just like, what what
Speaker 1: do I know? Like, I know, movies, but there's too
Speaker 1: many of those already. I know, TV shows, just too
Speaker 1: many of those already. I'm like, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: panormal podcasts, but I think I should compete in that realm,
Speaker 1: So let me go for it.
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to start from the beginning and
Speaker 2: go right down into it.
Speaker 1: Beginning of what is that like?
Speaker 2: The concept the what I do on my show is
Speaker 2: like with the experiences you've had?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, okay, Well, I am one of those
Speaker 1: paroral lovers who was not experienced too much. Who you know,
Speaker 1: those who want to see don't see. But I basically
Speaker 1: had very no panel experiences until I reached my late twenties.
Speaker 1: I well, in the house I live in now in
Speaker 1: for twenty one and basically when we moved in, I
Speaker 1: had family up here helping me fix things up, and
Speaker 1: they were staying the night at the house. I was
Speaker 1: staying the night at the place I was already staying,
Speaker 1: just because why not. I actually have been sleeping, so
Speaker 1: watch sleep on the floor. I know, I'm a dick.
Speaker 1: I'm a dick. I know that. But basically, I the
Speaker 1: next day I came back to the house and they're like,
Speaker 1: they're like, some crazy shit happened here last night. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And I mean bog bog figures
Speaker 1: coming out of the bathroom when you're walking in just weird.
Speaker 1: Noises and sounds all night, and you know, fast forward
Speaker 1: about three months later. By that point, there's been more
Speaker 1: and more activity going on, being things, shadow people, all
Speaker 1: that good stuff, and we got some I found some
Speaker 1: panormal vestcators on Facebook to come into the house or
Speaker 1: it was Google, but I found panorma vestcators to come
Speaker 1: into the house, vocal ones, and they spent a good
Speaker 1: couple hours going around with the meters and everything else,
Speaker 1: and it turns out there are spirits here. I would
Speaker 1: find out a lot more detail on that over the
Speaker 1: next three years and on my podcast with mediums and
Speaker 1: psychics and all that. But that night, the only thing
Speaker 1: I really found out is that it was the husband
Speaker 1: and wife who originally own the house and built it,
Speaker 1: and that they were just here because we have kids,
Speaker 1: and they never have kids, so they like to watch
Speaker 1: the kids. Or at least that's I think that's a wife.
Speaker 1: I think the husband's just really attached to the house
Speaker 1: and his garage and his card park. But basically I
Speaker 1: was I my creepiest experience ever was that night, though.
Speaker 1: Uh the investigaires and I were in my Sun's room
Speaker 1: and we were they were they were asking questions of
Speaker 1: the spirit that was in there, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I got the creepiest chills up my back as I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, like all the different improvements I've done the
Speaker 1: house if I bought it, And when I asked, they're like,
Speaker 1: ask the spirits something. I'm like, all right, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you like everything I've done to the house if I
Speaker 1: bought it, and I just hear the creepiest noise in
Speaker 1: my ear. It's like the tiniest whisper of a thank you.
Speaker 1: And they started snapping pictures of me at that point,
Speaker 1: and in the pictures like, I gotta find those pictures.
Speaker 1: I keep saying that for every podcast on. I got
Speaker 1: find those pictures. But in one of the pictures, in
Speaker 1: between my arm and my stomach, you can kind of
Speaker 1: see a face in between my arm my stomach and
Speaker 1: the pictures that people see as people don't, but you
Speaker 1: can kind of see a face at least I can.
Speaker 1: And I the biggest chills going down my back at
Speaker 1: that point. So I feel like that was my closest
Speaker 1: encounter with a spirit ever, Like it had to be.
Speaker 1: I never had that kind of primal, not fever, primal
Speaker 1: sense of something's not right. Going through my body right,
Speaker 1: So there's more, but I mean that was definitely the
Speaker 1: creepiest moment. We also had chickens and guinea hens in
Speaker 1: our back of our garage, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we started having chickens just keep dying, and we couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out why, Like we thought the guinea hens were
Speaker 1: possibly killed and them pushing them off like the rafters,
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't get their wings in time because
Speaker 1: it looked like they're flat like it really did, or
Speaker 1: like that they had a long fall and hurt themselves.
Speaker 1: But we got rid of the guinea hens and pickens
Speaker 1: are still dying, so we couldn't figure it out. Eventually,
Speaker 1: we moved the chickens out of the garage into uh
Speaker 1: shed turned cooped coop and they stopped telling all of
Speaker 1: a sudden at that point, nothing else is happening. And
Speaker 1: come to find out with a medium of my podcast
Speaker 1: later they were talking to the spirits in my house
Speaker 1: while they're on my show, and I guess he Rally,
Speaker 1: the guy who originally built the house said chicken stuff
Speaker 1: along in the house, hm, And I mean it's funny
Speaker 1: because they eat the e v P when they were
Speaker 1: here they can't pick up the word jungle. Spirit box,
Speaker 1: it can't pick up the word jungle. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was referring to the chickens as like
Speaker 1: being in a jungle, or that's where he was trying
Speaker 1: to like portray. I don't. I don't really get have
Speaker 1: spirit boxes work one hundred percent, so I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie about that. But it's just all weird coincidences that
Speaker 1: kind of happened, and they make sense when a medium
Speaker 1: explains it.
Speaker 2: I think the spirit boxes for me, it's strange in
Speaker 2: the sense that you just hear a bunch of random
Speaker 2: frequency like and it's so quick, you just hear bits
Speaker 2: and pieces. But then every once in a while it
Speaker 2: does pick out a word. So is it actually picking
Speaker 2: out a word from what these things are supposedly saying,
Speaker 2: or is it just randomly it's the one thing we
Speaker 2: end up hearing because it's something we're trying to hear, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, or is it just like a radio station like
Speaker 1: Limp said, they pick up on like off the wires
Speaker 1: or something like me or your hat like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know who invented the spirit box, but hopefully
Speaker 2: they patent it, because that's the one thing that seems
Speaker 2: to be the top of the paranormal world right now,
Speaker 2: is a lot of people using these spirit boxes and
Speaker 2: getting all these answers to things. And I would be
Speaker 2: afraid to try and do one around my own house
Speaker 2: because then I'd start getting paranoid if I started saying
Speaker 2: some shit to me that I didn't want to hear about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely creepy, and I mean and he definitely
Speaker 1: likes his garage, And that's definitely what part of the
Speaker 1: chickens was, because I mean, like our we put our
Speaker 1: dog in the back of the garage at one point
Speaker 1: because we were trying to find points in the house
Speaker 1: that like really keep her crate so she could sleep
Speaker 1: it like at night and not sure of the house.
Speaker 1: And we put in the back of the garage one night,
Speaker 1: and about half hour hour later, when she finally calmed
Speaker 1: down and stopped barking, we thought she like, you know,
Speaker 1: fell asleep, got used to it, whatever, And next thing
Speaker 1: you know, she's yelping like something's attacking her, and we
Speaker 1: go out there and opening her crate and she runs
Speaker 1: in the house bester than I ever seen that puppy
Speaker 1: run in my life. And I mean something that something
Speaker 1: in the back of the garage. I had to be
Speaker 1: creeping her out, had to be like haunting or harassing her.
Speaker 1: It's there's just And I used the podcast on the
Speaker 1: garage too for a while, like last was it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like last summer and last We're like a good six months.
Speaker 1: I was out there from like the end of winter
Speaker 1: to summer, and tell you I'd be out there this
Speaker 1: time of night some nights and just seeing by the
Speaker 1: garage door, which is in the front the house like
Speaker 1: where I am now kind of, and I've been looking
Speaker 1: into the back of the garage all the time, and
Speaker 1: you get the creepiest freaking feeling and you feel like
Speaker 1: you're being watched, and it's not a pleasant feeling. I mean,
Speaker 1: we even at the best of my riiking master I
Speaker 1: worked with that at that point, we not safe. We
Speaker 1: didn't sage, but similar a similar thing, I forget what
Speaker 1: the heck should called it, but a similar thing we
Speaker 1: did to the house. My wife did the house while
Speaker 1: I was at work one day and that night I
Speaker 1: was podcasting out there, and the guess was a medium
Speaker 1: of some kind or a Clairvoid and she's she was
Speaker 1: just like, there's a lot of spirits right now just
Speaker 1: walking around behind you, looking like the stone. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I explained what we did that day and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's like explained it. She's like, yeah, there's walking around
Speaker 1: like they're zombies on the Walking Dead. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's that's something. I'm like, I guess from what I've
Speaker 1: been told. The most recent Joseph not Joseph Lettererdeck's way
Speaker 1: over there, guess I forget his name. I just had
Speaker 1: him on the show. It's actually funny because he was
Speaker 1: my version of wind up happening to us, because like
Speaker 1: I was supposed to have a mom back at twenty three,
Speaker 1: and it just never happened. And a year later he
Speaker 1: messaged me again on another platform and I was like,
Speaker 1: where are we supposed to record? At one point it
Speaker 1: was like a year later where we're supposed to record
Speaker 1: like a year earlier, just never happened, got lost in
Speaker 1: the shuffle, very thing. And he's like he told me
Speaker 1: the show. He's like, yeah, you have a male ghost,
Speaker 1: a female ghost, and two dog ghosts in your house.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that makes sense. The original owner
Speaker 1: had dog, and we had a puppy that died at
Speaker 1: a fourteen seventeen weeks old something like that, due to
Speaker 1: a kidney problem that I was born with. So it
Speaker 1: made sense to me. Two dogs and two human ghosts
Speaker 1: in my house.
Speaker 2: How old is your house?
Speaker 1: It was built in sixty eat for Ribally, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I mean for Matt Tuett, it's not super old. But still,
Speaker 1: I mean, just it's everything. All the spirits are here,
Speaker 1: we know their backstory, we know where they're fun. It's
Speaker 1: not like some of the houses in like uh sk
Speaker 1: Pierce Mansion that's in my town is been around for
Speaker 1: one hundreds of years and nobody knows all the backstories
Speaker 1: of the spirits that in that house. It's it's an attraction.
Speaker 1: It's just a wanted attraction at this point. But my house,
Speaker 1: I mean, at least everything can be explained. I like
Speaker 1: that kind of it doesn't live without fear because of that,
Speaker 1: because I know what's in my house, at least I
Speaker 1: think I do.
Speaker 2: I keep seeing I can tell what it is. It's
Speaker 2: a flag behind you through the window. But when you
Speaker 2: first started talking, I could see movement and you're talking
Speaker 2: about the spirit. I was like, I wonder. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: and I can tell it was I just seen in
Speaker 2: the corner in the flag.
Speaker 1: But with that, with that storm system going through the
Speaker 1: country right now, it's very windy here again, so the
Speaker 1: flag out in the pole is going like crazy.
Speaker 2: It's blowing pretty bad out here. But I don't I've
Speaker 2: tried to sell proof this area as much as I can,
Speaker 2: and it's not as good as it needs to be, but
Speaker 2: it kind of does what it's supposed to do. So
Speaker 2: for the most part, I don't think it gets picked up.
Speaker 2: But it's pretty damn windy out here.
Speaker 1: Yea. Now it's it's starting windy again tonight. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that bad, but the weekend was actually decent. But but
Speaker 1: that basically for the most part. Surmise what de'stually funny
Speaker 1: because my reiki masher also told me that she sends
Speaker 1: something very dark in my house. She didn't want say
Speaker 1: anything bad it, but I happen to say on one
Speaker 1: of our sessions, I'm like, you know, I think there's
Speaker 1: something like darker in my house. My wife saw something
Speaker 1: and she's like She's like, I didn't want say anything,
Speaker 1: but she's like, I have sense a couple times. So
Speaker 1: there's something really dark in your house. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: yet Northern mediums or psychond I have my shows. Ever
Speaker 1: picks it up, but they pick up the spirits, but
Speaker 1: they'll pick up the evil thing. I don't quite understand
Speaker 1: what it could be. I mean, it was grayish blackish
Speaker 1: in color. My wife said, so, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a show person or a rath of some kind,
Speaker 1: or I don't think it's a demon. I've been told.
Speaker 1: I mean she said she didn't think it was a
Speaker 1: demon when I when she uh was talking about it.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's something something I really don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. Maybe just a bad spirit, but I
Speaker 1: mean I've been I've been told my house is like
Speaker 1: a rest stop for spirits, kind of like a better trout,
Speaker 1: like like they like to stop in my house for
Speaker 1: a little bit and leave.
Speaker 2: But were you doing your podcast before you've moved in
Speaker 2: or is this after you started.
Speaker 1: I didn't start podcasting at all until like a month
Speaker 1: ater I moved in this house just because that's the
Speaker 1: way things lined up. I know that.
Speaker 2: The audience don't want to hear this again, but basically
Speaker 2: I was told the doings. Podcasts like this sometimes brings in.
Speaker 1: You're inviting in the energy. Yeah, I've been told that,
Speaker 1: and I I don't know. I mean, my wife also
Speaker 1: comes from a very haunted house in the Bridgeware Triangle.
Speaker 1: So we might have brought things up here from her.
Speaker 1: Every time we go visit her house, the house down there,
Speaker 1: we might go bring we might we might be bringing
Speaker 1: something back with us. Who knows. It's possible, but it's
Speaker 1: I mean, it's my life now, and I yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't live in fear of it. I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1: Nothing scares me about it. It's just how wife is
Speaker 1: at this point, and I'm not going to be scared
Speaker 1: of it. I'm not gonna let it patrol me like
Speaker 1: it's They're not pulsar guys by any damn means. They're
Speaker 1: not slamming cabinet doors, they're not throwing things all around
Speaker 1: the counters like. No, they just are kind of non
Speaker 1: living roommates. That's where to put it.
Speaker 2: I've built this, well, I didn't build it. I've built
Speaker 2: the inside. What I'm in is a one of those
Speaker 2: lofted barns, little cabins or whatever they have like sheds
Speaker 2: it's got a front porch on it, and I closed
Speaker 2: everything on the inside of it. Behind me used to
Speaker 2: be the two big doors, and I closed it off
Speaker 2: and I tried to make it into the recording studio.
Speaker 2: So anything that I have, it's not in my house anymore.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to contain whatever this is because we're
Speaker 2: not attached to the house. It's like its own little thing.
Speaker 2: So my thought process was, if I'm inviting things in,
Speaker 2: then they're contained out here. If that's how it works.
Speaker 2: I don't know how any of that stuff actually works
Speaker 2: or not, but that was my idea, is to try
Speaker 2: and trap it here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really know how any of it works either.
Speaker 1: I have my theories, but like I mean, I believe
Speaker 1: for a long time, the old supernatural allure of they
Speaker 1: can only haunt where they died, like that was my thing.
Speaker 1: Is that going home where they died. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: I thought that's not true. Eventually, after enough people call
Speaker 1: me it's not true, Like I leave it. That's not
Speaker 1: that's a picture. You Ghosts cannot standing where they don't
Speaker 1: want to. They can go anywhere they want to most
Speaker 1: of the times, unless I mean, unless they're bound somewhere.
Speaker 1: I guess by some by some force. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways that could happen. I guess, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I am not one hundred percent of ghost Encyclopedia, so
Speaker 1: I don't know all the answers to this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I think it's personally weird to think
Speaker 2: that they're bound to anything. But some people say, oh,
Speaker 2: they're bound to they're haunting your property. It's like, why
Speaker 2: are they bound to like imaginary lines? Like if they're
Speaker 2: stuck to like your property, who's to say that the
Speaker 2: next spot over five feet of that means if I
Speaker 2: step over into the other side of the road, they
Speaker 2: can't follow me because it's not my property anymore. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't understand how any of that works.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they are balanced sometimes by agree
Speaker 1: even say man in life. I think they are balanced
Speaker 1: sometimes by live humans, whether it be some kind of voodoo,
Speaker 1: do white magic, black magic, what have you. There's there's
Speaker 1: gotta be ways they have abouting things, I'm sure, So,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's different ways.
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of weird stuff out there that I
Speaker 2: don't really know how to take some of it because
Speaker 2: I try to remain skeptical a lot of the time.
Speaker 2: So for me, it's I don't want to jump down
Speaker 2: the rabbit hole of everything's paranormal, everything's a ghost, everything's
Speaker 2: a demon. Everything exists. And now I try and look
Speaker 2: for the rational explanations. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 2: hard to do that when some of the things that
Speaker 2: you can find or something that there's no explanations for.
Speaker 1: I started my podcast with my little Literally the idea
Speaker 1: for me starting my podcast was, Okay, everybody that tells
Speaker 1: me has an experience, I'm gonna try to play a
Speaker 1: skepticon and I'm gonna and that's what I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: in this podcast. I'm gonna try be a skeptic on
Speaker 1: every experience somebody tells me. Now, twenty episodes in, I
Speaker 1: stopped trying because it just it wasn't happening. It wasn't happening.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of them. Yeah, sure, I had
Speaker 1: questions that maybe me seem unbelievable. But after a while
Speaker 1: I'm was like, I we don't even know what to ask.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dud, just nothing you said makes sense. So
Speaker 1: it's not I can't prove it to be anything else. Like,
Speaker 1: so it just there's nothing. When something is unexplainable, you
Speaker 1: have to go with the most logical answer, you know,
Speaker 1: if that's unbelievable, so mm hm, it's it's science. It's
Speaker 1: science in a way, and that's I would go through
Speaker 1: the freaking whatever you call it, the uh well, hypothetical
Speaker 1: laws or what they're called it. It's been a while,
Speaker 1: but that's cool. Yeah, I know it's meaning.
Speaker 2: It's it's hard to explain to people that don't have experiences, though,
Speaker 2: and convince them of something like for me, not having
Speaker 2: any sort of an experience, I would not believe ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent of the stuff that people tell me. This
Speaker 2: Since I've had my own stuff, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: I could see it being a possibility just because I've
Speaker 2: now had experiences about stuff. So for me, it's it's
Speaker 2: almost like I can I don't want to say that
Speaker 2: I believe everything, but at the same time, it's like
Speaker 2: a lot more easier to believe it since you've had
Speaker 2: your own experience to.
Speaker 3: Go along with it.
Speaker 2: It almost validates the things that people are saying.
Speaker 1: I never had that problem. I I did to day.
Speaker 1: Still I've had bigfoot experience or dogma experience, but I
Speaker 1: believe in them whole, hardly one dred percent that they're real.
Speaker 1: Even before I talk to people who've seen Bigfoot or
Speaker 1: have deb with Bigfoot, and before I was in all
Speaker 1: these groups on Facebook whe people tell their experiences. I always,
Speaker 1: since I was a child, I believed in Bigfoot because
Speaker 1: it made I was a smart kid, and it made sense.
Speaker 1: Be just because just because we can't prove an animal exists,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We didn't know gorillas
Speaker 1: existed until the nineteen fifties. I think it was when
Speaker 1: we finally proved that the natives, and now I forgot
Speaker 1: we're telling the truth about this giant manlike creature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this is just because we haven't improved true
Speaker 1: as me, it's not true. I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 1: hip hop, that's the fasis right there for the paranormal.
Speaker 2: This is what's funny about me. I actually have seen
Speaker 2: what people would consider a dog man, but I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily believe in dog man. So I've seen it, and
Speaker 2: yet I still trying to write it off as something
Speaker 2: else because from my mind is like it shouldn't exist,
Speaker 2: so I just don't accept that it does.
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of into my show even, But
Speaker 1: why do you think it can't exist? Why do you
Speaker 1: I mean a new bis rugaroo. All these mythological tales
Speaker 1: are talking dogs.
Speaker 2: That I bring that up to, and I want to
Speaker 2: talk about people like I know the history, I know
Speaker 2: the lore of the werewolf trials and everything else. I'm
Speaker 2: actually filming a documentary about this stuff because where I'm
Speaker 2: at there's been a lot of were wolf sightings. People
Speaker 2: call them were wolves, itse like nowadays they're called dog men.
Speaker 2: There's been recent stuff. I've got foot track like footprints
Speaker 2: from a very large canine here recently, and then a
Speaker 2: lot of people say, oh, it's just bear, you saw
Speaker 2: a bear.
Speaker 1: Well, footprints don't line up, no way.
Speaker 2: It's not even the footprints like bears don't have big
Speaker 2: bushy tails.
Speaker 1: Dogs do. Yeah, I mean they have what they will
Speaker 1: knocked like knobbed cat. That's about it.
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to use the bear like a bear with mange,
Speaker 2: bear with mange, and it pisses me off because guys, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get that, I'm not stupid, Like I know what
Speaker 2: a bear looks like and I know what a canine
Speaker 2: looks like. And for me, everything looked like a large
Speaker 2: black wolf of anything like. It didn't have the hands
Speaker 2: or anything like that. It literally had paws. But it
Speaker 2: is just a normal looking dog, except it stood up
Speaker 2: like a human and walked off on two legs in
Speaker 2: a weird, funky way of walking off.
Speaker 1: But there's a famous there's a famous song. There's a
Speaker 1: well not famous, but there's a well known song in
Speaker 1: the paranormal community about a similar occurrence that someone saw. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it's I believe it. I mean in Boos,
Speaker 1: I mean, God, go back to the epic of Gilgamesh,
Speaker 1: his best friend inky Do. Yeah, was either a dog
Speaker 1: man or a fucking bigfoot. I don't care what anybody
Speaker 1: tells me, but.
Speaker 2: I actually one of my first episodes, I think it's
Speaker 2: episode thirteen, we actually talked about that and Inky Do,
Speaker 2: the guy that I had talked to, he said that
Speaker 2: he one believed that it was a bigfoot because the
Speaker 2: way it's described and everything else is like a a
Speaker 2: wild man, a hairy man type creature. So to me,
Speaker 2: it sounds like a bigfoot.
Speaker 1: I mean, throughout mythology of all cultures, there's so many
Speaker 1: things that point to these creatures possibly being real. I mean,
Speaker 1: do I believe in I mean, do I believe in
Speaker 1: the Do I believe like they said in ancient Greece
Speaker 1: and ancient Rome, like about fay and fairies and that
Speaker 1: whole realm? I mean, yeah, to some degree, I can believe,
Speaker 1: because I've heard enough experiences. But that's less believable than
Speaker 1: the fact that there could be bigger creatures out there
Speaker 1: than us, set could literally destroy us if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: if they could organize. So I mean, it's I don't know.
Speaker 2: I struggle with it because if they're a flesh and
Speaker 2: blood type thing, then why are there no bodies And
Speaker 2: where's the evidence. At at some point someone's going to
Speaker 2: run one over. There should be a dead one somewhere.
Speaker 2: Someone shot one, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean bigfoot had been shot and buried by
Speaker 1: humans and then they go back to show their friends
Speaker 1: and the body disappeared, which means either the big foot
Speaker 1: are smart enough to bury their own and to hide
Speaker 1: the bodies from where humans could find them, or be
Speaker 1: they're all terrestrial and when they die, the body goes
Speaker 1: back them to mention they're.
Speaker 2: From I'm friends with someone that is a very big,
Speaker 2: flesh and blood type of a bigfoot and the whole
Speaker 2: wu side to it and everything else, Like I would
Speaker 2: probably lean more that way, but I hear both sides
Speaker 2: of it. And then you got these people that want
Speaker 2: to believe that there's just an undiscovered primate, and I
Speaker 2: do not necessarily believe it's an undiscovered primate. I used to,
Speaker 2: but there's too many weird instances that happen. But then
Speaker 2: you find out where the person who originally started all
Speaker 2: of the weird stuff and the paranormal aspect to it
Speaker 2: beforehand it was and there was never any of that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not saying it's not possible because people are
Speaker 2: experiencing something. So what I actually lean towards is what
Speaker 2: if Bigfoot is just something that we've manifested and becomes
Speaker 2: whatever we keep thinking because it takes the shape of
Speaker 2: whatever is the popular belief among itself, almost like an eggergre.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like gollum mob freaking my god time, I guess
Speaker 1: like a gollumn kind of but uh, it's like that's
Speaker 1: the word I'm trying to come to come to mind here.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, see, you're not the first person
Speaker 1: to bring the Memphis manifestation theory up put to me,
Speaker 1: and I I hate it. I I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think it has any Roman possibility,
Speaker 1: but I I'm not naive enough to believe it doesn't
Speaker 1: have possibility. I just I hate it because I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was like you. I started off Flesh
Speaker 1: and Blood. For a long time, gigant Pithecus theory was
Speaker 1: my theory. I freaking loved it and I thought it
Speaker 1: was accurate. But then people started my show. People in
Speaker 1: my show really started pushing the utraterrestrial theory on me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know. But then I'm
Speaker 1: for my own theory because you know I do well.
Speaker 1: I keep saying I want to write a book about
Speaker 1: my theories and publish it. I think it would be
Speaker 1: a best seller internal me with one hundred percent, But
Speaker 1: because my my theories are elaborate and freaking insane sometimes,
Speaker 1: but they make sense and that's why they're my theories.
Speaker 1: But the ultraustural thing I got thinking on and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what if? What if big but altructural? That? What? That's
Speaker 1: their oragin story? They're all trustrial begin with what if
Speaker 1: some of them have been on earth so long that
Speaker 1: they their spirits kind are I guess their souls kind of,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, kind of shifted. And
Speaker 1: what if there became a clan, a kind of a
Speaker 1: clan or a breed of Earth bigfoots that are what
Speaker 1: Patterson Gimlin filmed, and what if there are, because I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody knows there's two, there's multiple different species of bigfoot
Speaker 1: technically that we know about, supposedly, And what if not
Speaker 1: all of them are ultraterrestrial one of them, some of
Speaker 1: them are what if some what if the mix? What
Speaker 1: we have aultratrestoilds, we have extratrush fields, and we have
Speaker 1: Earth power ones. Who knows? Maybe this is an intelligent
Speaker 1: race that freaking spread out through the galaxy and through
Speaker 1: the dimensions before humans were a thing even and the
Speaker 1: ones that got left on Earth were the stupid ones.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, everything I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say is right or wrong because I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone really knows. It's all just kind of
Speaker 2: a guessing game.
Speaker 1: But we, as as I say my show constantly, we
Speaker 1: don't know. And that's the point of this is we
Speaker 1: don't know. If we knew, we wouldn't talking about as
Speaker 1: much because we would read on the answer.
Speaker 2: I always tell people, if there's ever someone that comes
Speaker 2: up and tells you they're an expert in any of
Speaker 2: this stuff, to take it with a grain of salt,
Speaker 2: because there's no experts, because there's hardly any proof of anything.
Speaker 1: Well, I like to say, I'm an expert in the
Speaker 1: fact that I don't know shit. It's basically it, and
Speaker 1: and that's there is proof, though it's just because I
Speaker 1: was talking to Leslie and Stephen Shaw UFO experts.
Speaker 2: I don't even know my name, but yeah, they're about
Speaker 2: on my show a year or so ago.
Speaker 1: Saying they did their rounds about a year ago when
Speaker 1: his book was coming out. But they were telling me
Speaker 1: about this scientist in California or Oregon somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: And she has samples of a urine from a lake
Speaker 1: when she was where she was testing for different species
Speaker 1: urins in a lake for some reason I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess for a population type thing. But there's a
Speaker 1: primate urin in that lake that cannot be identified. And
Speaker 1: she also has hair that cannot be identified to any
Speaker 1: known creature. I mean, she has two to big things
Speaker 1: of proof. And she's trying to get somebody in the
Speaker 1: government to let her actually publish something, because you know
Speaker 1: that's that, you know, that's one of reason that we
Speaker 1: don't admit that they puts real. It's won't let them.
Speaker 1: The government freaking knows. Nobody's don't tell me. I'm wrong
Speaker 1: with that. The government knows, Teddy Rose about freaking added
Speaker 1: dealing with a big pop for god sitting, the government knows.
Speaker 2: I think that if they are real, the government does know, indeed,
Speaker 2: because I think there's a reason that they don't want
Speaker 2: people to know. And I don't necessarily I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people toss out the whole notion of it
Speaker 2: will uproot everything like the park systems, like logging, all
Speaker 2: sorts of stuff, wild life protections, all sorts of different
Speaker 2: type of endangered species acts. I think there's more to
Speaker 2: it than that. I don't think it's just that. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot more to it than that. And
Speaker 2: I think it's because, again, if these things are real,
Speaker 2: and like what you're saying is if there are from
Speaker 2: a different plane of existence, like a different reality, a
Speaker 2: different dimension, that's part of the reason why they don't
Speaker 2: want anyone to know, because in that kind of confirms
Speaker 2: some other things or way that they're not ready to you. Like, basically,
Speaker 2: your whole aspect on religion has to shift, and I
Speaker 2: think that's where the struggles come from one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I mean, the governments have been controlled by religion as
Speaker 1: a most Hey Litsten on my show now, I hate
Speaker 1: organized religion with a passion. I have nothing against people
Speaker 1: who are religious or spiritual, I have nothing against you,
Speaker 1: but organized religions I hate the heads of them with
Speaker 1: a passion because they've been controlling governments for millennia, and
Speaker 1: that is the reason we don't know everything we should
Speaker 1: know as humans. I mean, I always say, if the
Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse happens, I am going to the freaking Vatican
Speaker 1: basement and I will be staying there until I die
Speaker 1: reading things that I've been wait waiting my whole life
Speaker 1: to find ou are true. So it's the way, It's
Speaker 1: just the way it's gotta be. I one of my
Speaker 1: co homes from my previous show. Actually, we do a
Speaker 1: Winchester Wednesday special on my show now, but well at
Speaker 1: least is on Wednesdays. We don't qud on Wednesdays. But basically,
Speaker 1: like he said, it was already together, Like if joy
Speaker 1: Pokolch happens, we gain our families and we're all going
Speaker 1: to the bat again because ain't nothing getting in there,
Speaker 1: and we'd have a lifetime of reading about all the
Speaker 1: things we talk about and how they really exist.
Speaker 2: You'd have to get all the way to the Vatican, though.
Speaker 1: Get a damn boat. I'm find with that. Get me
Speaker 1: a damn boat I'll sail.
Speaker 2: I years back, me and my friend actually had a
Speaker 2: prepper plan. Not so much we prepped anything, but we
Speaker 2: used to work at a warehouse and we already had
Speaker 2: a plan of how we were going to fortify this
Speaker 2: warehouse because we had all these metal racking things, so
Speaker 2: we're going to fortify everything with the racks. We had
Speaker 2: the trick keys of the big box trucks. We had
Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff there, and we had tons of
Speaker 2: packing peanuts that were made from a corn starch and
Speaker 2: they were edible. I was like, well, we've got so
Speaker 2: many of these. We can survive on cornstarch packing peanuts
Speaker 2: for several years.
Speaker 1: But would you want that is the question.
Speaker 2: But no, But in worst case scenario, that was our
Speaker 2: battle twin.
Speaker 1: If it's it was easy, damn packet to answer each other.
Speaker 1: At that point, you gotta be like, all right, I
Speaker 1: got damn p nuts, but but I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's there's so much in this world we don't know.
Speaker 1: It's scary. I mean, and I and look out how
Speaker 1: long it took them to admit that UFOs are real
Speaker 1: from what nineteen forty two and Roswell till twenty twenty
Speaker 1: and so literally fifty eight years, actually not fifty years
Speaker 1: without am I saying, uh, like sixty eight years, seventy
Speaker 1: eight years.
Speaker 2: It took come to maybe seventy years almost like they and.
Speaker 1: They they didn't want to admit, Oh it's weather balloon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my answer to weather balloon. I've talked to people who
Speaker 1: have chunks of the Roswell saucer and they showed me
Speaker 1: the pieces. They don't look like normal metal down on
Speaker 1: Earth for God's sake, I mean, it's no I've seen
Speaker 1: the proof, like Roswell really happened. I don't care who
Speaker 1: says it didn't Roswell happen. There are so much proof.
Speaker 1: There's there's been experts in my show on extrassual Life,
Speaker 1: and if you listen those episodes, it doesn't commit you,
Speaker 1: then I don't know what you need because unless you
Speaker 1: want one to come shake your hand.
Speaker 2: Now, I definitely think something happened at Roswell. I never
Speaker 2: believe that.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: This is where I struggled with Roswell. Why did they
Speaker 2: say that a UFO crashed and the next day they
Speaker 2: retract the statement. They allowed it to go out the
Speaker 2: first time, but they didn't say ufo. They called it
Speaker 2: a flying saucer because that was what the term was
Speaker 2: that was being pushed out there because of Kenneth Arnold
Speaker 2: a few months prior or not even if any think
Speaker 2: it was a few weeks prior, they used the term
Speaker 2: that they got a flying saucer. But no one ever
Speaker 2: really said that this thing was a saucer. There's pieces,
Speaker 2: so who even knows what it actually looked like.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean that's what the farmer, that's what
Speaker 1: the initial farmer who founded to say it looks like
Speaker 1: as a flying saucer, too, right, And I mean I've
Speaker 1: actually I know people, I've known people who I try
Speaker 1: to get in my mind show I couldn't like he
Speaker 1: just wasn't responding to me, even though he was on
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends podcasts. I'm like, what the hell,
Speaker 1: but the grandson of the original farmer from Roswell, he's
Speaker 1: me his rounds on a few podcasts. People have friends
Speaker 1: with it. I'm just like, I was trying to get
Speaker 1: my mind show so bad. But I think he stopped
Speaker 1: guessing at that point. I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: getting threatened or what.
Speaker 2: But I mean I actually had someone in contact with
Speaker 2: Jesse Marcelle's grandson and I never did get a follow
Speaker 2: up with it, so I don't know whatever happened with that.
Speaker 2: I probably should actually try and get him on My
Speaker 2: thing is like he's the grandson of the guy that
Speaker 2: was holding the stuff in the photo, but at the
Speaker 2: same time, like he wasn't around at that point. His
Speaker 2: grandfather's been dead for thirty something years, his dad's been dead.
Speaker 2: Like it's how much do they really know at this
Speaker 2: point or are they just going to make the round
Speaker 2: because they want to talk about stuff to be popular.
Speaker 1: I mean, are or maybe their granddaddy tell the stuffhen
Speaker 1: they were young about what happened. Grandfathers like to talk
Speaker 1: to the grandsons about stuff they don't talk anybody else about.
Speaker 1: Trust me. I mean, I've my grandfather told me things
Speaker 1: about the experienced the World War Two that he didn't
Speaker 1: tell anybody about until it didn't mean my brother gave along.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's secrets sometimes passed down when you're
Speaker 1: a grandparent because you don't go much longer to live
Speaker 1: and you know it and you don't give a shit anymore.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's just it's and I pat you,
Speaker 1: I actually had you folk experience. I just shit out
Speaker 1: finally because down that house in the Bridgewar's Ryangle, me
Speaker 1: and the what me and the then girlfriend that wife
Speaker 1: and the kids were and her kids were going in
Speaker 1: the house in the backyard at night. It was getting
Speaker 1: pretty dark out and we're on the back porch and
Speaker 1: steps on Sis and he's like, hey, dad, why why
Speaker 1: are those stars moving? And I'm like looking up, I'm
Speaker 1: like stars, don't what the oh? Yeah? Uh? Seven or
Speaker 1: eight stars not star sides, but star looking things moving
Speaker 1: information through the sky. Like you know, you can't see
Speaker 1: stars move with your blind eye, So they were actually
Speaker 1: moving at the speed the blind eye can tell they're moving,
Speaker 1: and they were all moving the same direction in information,
Speaker 1: like a straight line basically, And it looked like seven
Speaker 1: or eight UFOs from what I could tell, and like
Speaker 1: I was just like, I got my kids back inside
Speaker 1: just in cage. I'm like, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell they're doing up there. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: Let's just getting inside. But if I had a telescope,
Speaker 1: I would have got out and looked. But I didn't.
Speaker 1: And I mean the area I limit now is a
Speaker 1: huge UFO hot spot. And you stand in my back,
Speaker 1: you stay in my back other night walking the dogs,
Speaker 1: and like while they're going back theom, I'm looking up
Speaker 1: the sky and there are definitely some things out there
Speaker 1: that don't look like stars, don't look like planes, that
Speaker 1: look like anything we know of.
Speaker 2: Did you guys like a bunch of the drones?
Speaker 1: O real? No, I mean only my name only my
Speaker 1: neighbor's drone. And I haven't seen that in a while either, But.
Speaker 2: We had drones here. There's been drones all over the
Speaker 2: place again. I guess just yesterday someone I know saw
Speaker 2: something again right by the Indiana, Ohio line. And they're
Speaker 2: not like small drones, are actually pretty large drones. Some
Speaker 2: people said they've been like almost twenty foot. That's that's
Speaker 2: a pretty big drone.
Speaker 1: I feel like that. I feel like the drone thing
Speaker 1: is more government raid.
Speaker 2: That's what I was leaning at too, is I don't
Speaker 2: think there are anything other than our own personal stuff
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like maybe maybe it's the government
Speaker 1: lining up for all these deportations and trying to like
Speaker 1: get information through drones. Like maybe, I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: just one thought to keep in my head. Today. I
Speaker 1: was watching the news. But because they talked about the
Speaker 1: drones today and they talked about the deportation, there's something
Speaker 1: like maybe shoo, maybe two of these things are connected.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I I'm not for me to
Speaker 1: what the government does, and nor do I really want
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: I try not to pay much attention to this point
Speaker 2: because everything's a big shit show in general.
Speaker 1: Oh it is. It's I I don't even like watching
Speaker 1: the news. Just happen to be waiting for my doc's office,
Speaker 1: and there was nothing else. I didn't have the remote.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2: When the news is on, I don't believe it anyways, So.
Speaker 1: I believe they're lying, that's all.
Speaker 2: I somehow think it's all doom and gloom. The only
Speaker 2: thing they put out there is what they want you
Speaker 2: to believe into, and it's never anything good. Very rarely
Speaker 2: do you see any good things happening on the news,
Speaker 2: So they want you to think the whole world's gone
Speaker 2: to hell in a handbasket for some strange reason.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's creepy. It's it really is creepy.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what to believe anymore. I really don't.
Speaker 2: It's just, well, is there anything else you'd like to discuss?
Speaker 2: If not, we can probably wrap this one up. There's
Speaker 2: a few things that I was trying to do tonight
Speaker 2: before I have to get up and go to work
Speaker 2: in the morning, but I want to make sure we
Speaker 2: got able to get on here and talk.
Speaker 1: Well. Uh, actually yes, something one of my pair of
Speaker 1: topics and I always like to get pains on when
Speaker 1: people are well versed in paranormal where's your theory? I'm
Speaker 1: living dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: I wish one that they were real, and I have
Speaker 2: some in my backyard. If you believe the chickens are
Speaker 2: dinosaurs because of a lot of people say they've descended
Speaker 2: from that. But I know in Australia there's been stories
Speaker 2: of what people consider like raptors and then there's Michilimabamba
Speaker 2: in the Congo. I would not be surprised if there's
Speaker 2: not somewhere in the vastness of a jungle or even underwater,
Speaker 2: that there's some sort of relic, because they thought the
Speaker 2: Sela canth was extinct, and here it is still alive
Speaker 2: after ninety million years or whatever. I could see something
Speaker 2: like that, it's still existing.
Speaker 1: But and there's there's a tribe in Peru that worships
Speaker 1: raptor like creatures that live in the woods. And I mean,
Speaker 1: let's not forget thunderbirds. Yeah, they're just terrid actoles. There's
Speaker 1: actually some in New Guinea. The people have reported seen
Speaker 1: and I've seen videos and I was like, it looks
Speaker 1: like it's just a bird to me. But they're they
Speaker 1: think they're terodactyls. They're like, I mean, rely large, like
Speaker 1: who knows, who knows what's out in those damn jungles.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a I'm a proponent of hollow earth theory,
Speaker 1: and I mean not flat earth, and I say flat
Speaker 1: Earth flatter earthers, But I am a proponent of hollow
Speaker 1: earth theory. Basically, the idea of what came out of
Speaker 1: I mean it's been around for a long time, basically
Speaker 1: the whole like you know, during the Center of the
Speaker 1: Earth land the Lost Conks Island. Have my idea, I'm
Speaker 1: like cave systems throughout Earth. I'm a proponent of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Americans went on the Spire requests through
Speaker 1: the caves in North America and they're the only ones
Speaker 1: who ever went our way through that were human. And
Speaker 1: who knows what's down there? Maybe that will explain ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of the crypts we have on Earth, and
Speaker 1: that may it explains where they live. I first stories
Speaker 1: of dragons and mines in Pennsylvania. If you look at
Speaker 1: the map of all these cave systems, the missing four
Speaker 1: to one dots are all right above these cave systems. Mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge proponent of the horror system, and I
Speaker 1: think the explains living dinosaurs some degree. I think they
Speaker 1: have a place to travel through and hide.
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before and I will always. This will
Speaker 2: be the hill that I die on. The movie The Descent?
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that? They came out about twenty
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 3: I know of it.
Speaker 1: I can't say everyone I actually watched it, but I
Speaker 1: know of it.
Speaker 2: They went into a cave system. Sorry for if you
Speaker 2: don't want to be spoiled audience, you can skip now,
Speaker 2: but cave system. And they come across these pale humanoid
Speaker 2: that lived in the cave and for me it was
Speaker 2: like pale crawlers and what people call rakes. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: that's basically based off the pale crawlers. And then even
Speaker 2: in the Native Americans that call them Windo goes, they're different.
Speaker 2: But if the descriptions of the original Windog was a
Speaker 2: pale humanoid person is more of a spiritual thing. But
Speaker 2: let's just take all a spirit aspect out of it.
Speaker 2: What if the things that people are seeing are all
Speaker 2: the same things like your dover demon. What if like
Speaker 2: a pale crawler, your parallel crawlers, your Windo Goes like
Speaker 2: all these other things, And if you look at the
Speaker 2: areas that they're usually spotted in, it usually is somewhere
Speaker 2: around caves. You have your Kentucky goblins around the cave systems.
Speaker 2: Like all these things still start to point around to
Speaker 2: the possibility that things are coming from the cave system.
Speaker 2: Then you mention in the four one one. I've said
Speaker 2: this before, like if you look and you take that map.
Speaker 2: You look at your map of cryptid sidings, you look
Speaker 2: at your map UFO sidings. They all line up. Where
Speaker 2: people go missing is around the cave systems, where all
Speaker 2: these random cryptid sightings are too yeper.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's why. I mean, I believe it's
Speaker 1: all relate. I truly do. I mean, I was watching
Speaker 1: a Missing four one documentary and I kind of like
Speaker 1: put all together in my head, like ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, I'm like, if A cann
Speaker 1: exit B and be connext to C and C canext
Speaker 1: to E. Holy shit. Yes, I'm like, this explains it
Speaker 1: all my cave systems. And then I heard how Earth
Speaker 1: theory a couple of years later, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that even adds to it. I'm like, on Earth, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't it be? I mean, why is there
Speaker 1: so much literature about people trying to get to the
Speaker 1: center of the Earth. It's obviously, it's just it's all
Speaker 1: based on some theory or idea. It's not just random
Speaker 1: people are the idea of a story. Never again, like,
Speaker 1: let's go to the center of the Earth, because you
Speaker 1: know it's all magma. We're gonna die and burn death.
Speaker 1: Let's go all right, Like, no, there has to be
Speaker 1: some bases on this theory. I mean, where the hell
Speaker 1: did they even come up with the idea for Jordy
Speaker 1: center of the Earth, the original Like where to HG.
Speaker 1: Wells come up with it.
Speaker 2: There's a story of Admiral Bird where he supposedly flew
Speaker 2: I thing it was over Antarctica and he saw his
Speaker 2: opening that took him down there and like he's seen
Speaker 2: stuff flying out of it.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: They claim that's not true, but they claim a lot
Speaker 2: of shit.
Speaker 1: It's not true by my conspiracy bracket on my show,
Speaker 1: Antarcha's secret base is one of the options for that reason,
Speaker 1: because there's Antarcha's there's something there, there's something. Why is nobody?
Speaker 1: Why are regular citizens of any country now that on it?
Speaker 1: That's what I said.
Speaker 2: And then people tell me like, well, you can sail
Speaker 2: down there. I was like, yeah, you can, you can
Speaker 2: take a cruise if you've got the money, But you
Speaker 2: still can't go anywhere down there, And they're like, well
Speaker 2: there's nowhere to go. So it's like you still have
Speaker 2: to have an actual permission from your government to actually
Speaker 2: go there. Like yes, they take cruises around Antarctica, but
Speaker 2: you're not getting off at Antarctica and you don't see anything.
Speaker 2: You're just flying around, you sailing around the coast of
Speaker 2: it in certain spats.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could get off there if you want.
Speaker 1: If you want to get shot, then go ahead, But
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to get shot. So I mean,
Speaker 1: there's arm guards in Antarctica. There's been pictures of them.
Speaker 2: So it just doesn't make sense as to why the
Speaker 2: world can't get a longer agree on anything. But they
Speaker 2: all signed this treaty to leave Antarctica alone. That to
Speaker 2: me is the biggest red hearing I've seen.
Speaker 1: I believe it was signed. Actually, there was a conference,
Speaker 1: the Viana Conference after World War Two. I was told
Speaker 1: that by a woman whose father was in the military
Speaker 1: during that time, that there were a lot of different
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial species president at that conference. But they all came
Speaker 1: in with their human escorts and they were in disguises
Speaker 1: until they got in the building, and that building was
Speaker 1: shot off to the public that day.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, I forget the name of the
Speaker 1: guests in the name of the episode completely, but the
Speaker 1: title of that episode has something to do with raptors
Speaker 1: in World War Two. So if you want us to
Speaker 1: do a good episode, oh my god, I literally, I
Speaker 1: literally want speechless flair a good two minutes in that show,
Speaker 1: or I couldn't think of anything to say. I was
Speaker 1: just draw drops speechless. If you watched the video on YouTube,
Speaker 1: like I was just Yeah, most shocked have ever been
Speaker 1: in my life. I got that show, and I believe
Speaker 1: every word woman was saying because I could see in
Speaker 1: her eyes she believed herself so and she didn't. She
Speaker 1: seemed very intelligent, so I believe everything she was saying.
Speaker 1: The military hides a lot of things, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: doubt a lot of it.
Speaker 2: I understand part of the reason why things aren't put
Speaker 2: out there. I don't think we need to know every
Speaker 2: little thing that goes on. I don't think our minds
Speaker 2: are capable of that. I don't honestly think I come
Speaker 2: off as a hypocrite sometimes I think taxation ist stuffed,
Speaker 2: But at the same time I understand the point of
Speaker 2: what it's for. Like, yes, we need roads, we need bridges,
Speaker 2: we need to pay for kids to go to school,
Speaker 2: we need to pay for the like I understand the
Speaker 2: point of all of that stuff. But it's still pisses
Speaker 2: me off. I see how much money goes to the government.
Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, every time my boss has asked me, well,
Speaker 1: how'd you like that quarter bonus? How'd you like that
Speaker 1: your end bonus, I'm like, it was great before taxes
Speaker 1: took a quarter of it, right, So it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's horrible. Taxes are freaking horrible. I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: you paid a lot of money for this house, like
Speaker 1: a couple hundred grand, but we still got taxed you
Speaker 1: for the land every year at least.
Speaker 2: No, even though it's completely paid off, you're still have
Speaker 2: to pay your property taxes. Otherwise we're gonna take it
Speaker 2: from you and.
Speaker 1: Your school tax if you live in one of those
Speaker 1: areas that I don't.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's always something.
Speaker 1: But it's I don't know. I don't know anymore. I mean, eventually,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the answers I've been told
Speaker 1: the next seven years are gonna be interesting, and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of downing to see what happens.
Speaker 2: So I know, and I don't want to say it
Speaker 2: because it'll get me in trouble, especially with certain filters.
Speaker 2: But there is a quote unquote event happening in the
Speaker 2: next couple of years that will be uh eye opening
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, and a lot of things
Speaker 2: out there claiming that might not happen now because people
Speaker 2: are talking about I was like or it was all bullshit.
Speaker 1: It'll happen if it's meant to happen, It's going to happen.
Speaker 2: When twenty twenty seven is a year that is supposed.
Speaker 1: To happen, so I've stid that too.
Speaker 2: So he's still got You've got two years to go,
Speaker 2: so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Then there's some actual competent people in the politics now,
Speaker 1: so maybe it all happen actually and be right. But
Speaker 1: we'll see.
Speaker 2: We can probably wrap this one up before we do
Speaker 2: the let everyone know the name of your show and
Speaker 2: where they can find you.
Speaker 1: Of First, Jemmy brings the politics and the show gets wrapped.
Speaker 1: I don't like the politics anyway, but yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to hear more of my theories or
Speaker 1: other crazy things, I like to say, UH, check out
Speaker 1: there normal three years were that so is free to
Speaker 1: watch listen to. Uh. I am usually put up live
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Speaker 1: don't know who or what this creature is. He swears
Speaker 1: he's a big foot that was evolved by our art curry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't say today, but by some grays and our carryers.
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Speaker 1: speak English. So he likes to post about my podcast
Speaker 1: and put it out live on Facebook, the Squatchy large Foot.
Speaker 1: Go check it out, and uh find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram as a duck little bastard, and you can
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Speaker 1: reparantal to normal. All video All episodes are on their
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Speaker 1: interesting guests. So but check it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you send me a link to your stuff
Speaker 2: in an email, I'll put it in the show notes
Speaker 2: for anyone listening. But I can do that well, Jeremy,
Speaker 2: it's been a pleasure talking to you, man.
Speaker 1: Pleasure to brother ain time. And you're always welcome to
Speaker 1: come to my show for episode two if you want so,
Speaker 1: I might take you up on that.
Speaker 2: If you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels,
Speaker 2: remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at
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Speaker 2: go to the contact section. Make sure to follow me
Speaker 2: around on all the social media's and just remember truth
Speaker 2: comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price?
Speaker 3: Heard story last night about something alert along the woodline,
Speaker 3: huge foot, princh, strange lights in the sky. They claim
Speaker 3: it's nothing, but I know they light it sees your
Speaker 3: laughing to laugh in my face. But something about this
Speaker 3: makes me say, what if it's real?
Speaker 2: What if they knew?
Speaker 3: What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores,
Speaker 3: wasting my time? Hearing boy it says, is it all
Speaker 3: in their minds? They can call me crazy, but I
Speaker 3: just want them through.
Speaker 1: What if it's true? What if it's real?
Speaker 3: What if it's true?
Speaker 2: What if the worlds not what we knew?
Speaker 3: Jim for tell, blend me a story that starts where
Speaker 3: the lodge is. What if it's real?
Speaker 1: What if it's true?
Speaker 3: The answers are, They're waiting for you. They see if
Speaker 3: the dog man walking, or maybe a'm offman flights. I
Speaker 3: love the fairy giants hidden beneath the lies. They say,
Speaker 3: it's just stories, it's all may believe.
Speaker 1: The fairy tale is for the.
Speaker 2: Things we can't perceive.
Speaker 1: They won't keep us blindly, They won't to break our wheel.
Speaker 1: But I'm not buying it.
Speaker 3: I'm not swallowing another pill forespent poison. The lies were
Speaker 3: made to what if.
Speaker 1: The truth could set us free?
Speaker 3: The alien signals traveling through time, secret space programs are
Speaker 3: racing their minds.
Speaker 2: They call them crazy, But I just need some fruit.
Speaker 2: What if it's true?
Speaker 1: What if it's real?
Speaker 3: What if it's true?
Speaker 1: What if the worlds not? What we do?
Speaker 3: Till Foil tells, believe me.
Speaker 1: In worry that starts where the logic is.
Speaker 3: What if it's read?
Speaker 1: Or what if it's true?
Speaker 2: The answers are waiting, They're weighing for you.
Speaker 1: They live, We all been diving. The signs are there
Speaker 1: if you open your eyes.
Speaker 2: The aliens criptics Demon's ghost.
Speaker 1: The Hipple them two.
Speaker 2: What if it's me?
Speaker 3: Or what if it's true?
Speaker 1: What if it's raal?
Speaker 3: What if it's true? What if the world's not? What
Speaker 3: wait to do?
Speaker 1: And Foil tells fer me a story that starts where
Speaker 1: the logic what if it's rain? What if that's true?
Speaker 2: The answers are waiting, They're weighing for you.
Speaker 3: It's all in our heads.
Speaker 1: It's all in our binders. These voices can be silenced.
Speaker 2: The truth must rise tiple tail.
Speaker 1: It's fulling me.
Speaker 2: What if it's reading, What if it's true,