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I am going to 11 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:41,840 cover the June twenty twenty announcement from Governor Roy Cooper 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,679 in North Carolina at the time when he created the 13 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:48,840 North Carolina Task Force for Racial Equity in Criminal Justice, 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,079 and then the results the recommendations that came from that 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,679 task Force, which sort of outline all of the reasons 16 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:02,960 why we are seeing these types of events, these people 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,359 who are getting released, that are repeat offenders, that are 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,239 mentally unstable, and sort of the underlying philosophy that has 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,239 guided the Democrat Party now for the last roughly decade. 20 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:21,799 But you but really ramped up with the summer of 21 00:01:21,879 --> 00:01:26,200 fiery but mostly peaceful rioting and looting the phone number 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,599 seven four five seven eleven ten, and that's also the 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,680 WBT text line driven by the Liberty buick GMC. Let 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,120 me go over and get Dave on first. He's been 25 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:39,799 waiting from the last hour. Hello Dave, welcome to the show. 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: Hey, how you doing. 27 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's up? 28 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: Well? I hadn't talked to you in a long time. 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 I think Charlotte moved to Wilmington. 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh well, anyway, Opaul as well, have you heard of 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:58,319 Nick Craig. Have you heard of Nick Craig. He's down 32 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:00,599 in the Wilmington area. He owes it's the show now 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 here for the Carolina Journal News Hour at five am. 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,200 But he's out of Wilmington. 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: You should check out it. 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should check out his show. He's on YouTube 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,319 down there. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: I'll check it out. Yeah. I usually just listen to 39 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:16,639 listen to your podcast. But I saw something today on 40 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:21,039 Acts formally known as Twitter that really disturbed me. I 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,360 was wondering if you had seen it regarding the young 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:32,120 woman who was murdered the Blaze. I don't know how 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:38,159 they got it, but it's not it's not graphic or horrific. 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,439 It shows the aftermath. 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: From the from the light rail attack. Yes, right, So 46 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:49,199 the only version that I have seen is the one 47 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:55,080 that WBTV published on Friday, which freeze it shows her 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,319 get on the train, shows him on the train, shows 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,000 you know him, you know, reeling back to stab her, 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,719 but then it freezes the video and then it cuts 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,240 to him walking further up the train car. And I 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,159 pointed out that there is there's a gap and there's 53 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:17,599 the missing footage because the first camera angle is on 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,319 her and him, right, So that's the first camera angle, 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,159 and then the second camera angle after the attack is 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,560 farther up the train, far away from where the attack occurred, 57 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,560 where he had walked to. So we know that there's 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,759 missing footage there. 59 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how the Blaze got it, but 60 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:39,080 anybody you should be able to find it on X 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,879 just look for the Blaze. 62 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: They probably did. 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: I pinned it to my account. 64 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, they probably did. They probably did a 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Freedom of Information Act request, just like the local media did. 66 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:52,120 But it sounds like what you're saying is that they 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,520 didn't edit it out, so it's the full video. 68 00:03:56,199 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Well no, so I didn't see what was obvious The 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,400 most horrific part, but I did see it does show 70 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:10,280 immediately after. Okay, this poor girl, after she has been 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:16,920 stabbed three times, she apparently is just sitting there sobbing, 72 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,360 and the train apparently or the rail apparently stopped at 73 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,040 that point, and three people around her who obviously saw 74 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:32,560 what happened. You could tell from their reactions they get 75 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:38,560 up and don't offer aid at all and just walk off. 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,920 I was just horrified anyway. 77 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be curious to know. So a couple things. 78 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Number One, did they actually see and process what they saw? 79 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,839 You know what I mean? Because it's so outside of 80 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:58,519 the norm. You know, this sort of it's called the 81 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:02,800 normalcy bias. It's why people don't jump to action. They 82 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,040 or they think, oh, what are those gunshots? No, it's fireworks. 83 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,000 They always say, oh I thought it was fireworks because 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,759 the normalcy bias kicks in your brain is it doesn't 85 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,199 have anything any point of reference, you know, and so 86 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,959 that you know, so there could have been something like 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,279 that going on. Or I mentioned this earlier. It's not 88 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,920 like he shot her, so there's no noise involved that 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,639 would give that cue. It's just he got up right, 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,879 and the knife was small. I mean, it's a folding 91 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,519 pocket knife kind of a thing, and so they may 92 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:34,759 not even have realized what it was that occurred. They 93 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,079 may have thought he just punched her and walked away. 94 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'll let everyone come to their own conversation. I 95 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,199 haven't seen that I could tell from what I could tell, 96 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,079 they definitely. 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Knew what had happened, right, And did it show any 98 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,600 how long after? I mean, it showed them get off 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,240 the train. Did it show the people that did come 100 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:55,720 up and help her or try to. 101 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:02,639 Speaker 2: No, No, it's the flip us all. It shut off 102 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:06,360 before that part, which I had already seen. But I 103 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,720 was just I thought maybe that that the whole entire 104 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,639 video is out there somewhere. So apparently it wasn't. Based 105 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,279 on what you just said to me, you had only 106 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:18,199 seen a little. 107 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Bit of it, right, just the edited version that BTV 108 00:06:21,079 --> 00:06:23,720 put out, and that did not like you could not 109 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,639 see the video where so like there's another reporter in town, 110 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,319 Joe Bruno, he saw the whole video. He says, there 111 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:34,759 were several heroic passengers who rushed to her, aid. We 112 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,920 saw one man take the shirt off his back and 113 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,800 attempt CPR. So that wasn't in the video. You saw either. 114 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: No, well, God bless him, I mean in vain. 115 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so there there's definitely more video, and 116 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:52,800 I know there's I knew there was more because the 117 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,360 cutaway from where she was sitting to then farther down 118 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:59,439 the train where Brown is walking around dripping blood and 119 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,079 he takes off sweatshirt and wraps it around his hand. 120 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,040 So I knew there was like there was obviously something 121 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:07,000 going on farther down the train. You can kind of 122 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,920 make out the commotion down there, and there is a 123 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,160 camera that was there, And we know there's a camera 124 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,680 there because you just showed us cats just showed us 125 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:18,720 footage from that camera. So that camera still has more 126 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:22,240 footage that we have not seen of the people trying 127 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,920 to render aid. Now, the local media has said that 128 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:29,519 they did not release that because it's at a respect 129 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,519 for her family. Because if that was your daughter, you know, 130 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:37,240 dying or you know, attacked and dying on a on 131 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:42,600 a train floor, you would not want that all over 132 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,360 the internet either. You wouldn't want to see it on 133 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:46,519 your TV, on the newscasts and all of that. I mean, 134 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,120 this is the that's the line you walk in a 135 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:53,120 news operation is you know what do we publish, because 136 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,519 at some point you get into snuff film territory, you know. 137 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: No, I get it, and I understand that to some degree. 138 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,720 But so I was horrified at this whole thing from 139 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,560 the get go. But after I saw that, I was, 140 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:15,519 I was just I was, I was at a loss 141 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,920 for words. I mean literally, I mean, the poor girl 142 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,759 obviously knew she was mortally wounded, and it's like she 143 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:30,560 put her head down and was sobbing, and there was 144 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:35,080 one passenger and I'm I'm not going to pass judgment 145 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,240 on her, but I mean she was sitting. You know 146 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,759 how they have the seats that they're actually horizontal. 147 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, or yeah, back against the wind. 148 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: Which yeah, which in retrospect. So if nothing else, I 149 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:56,720 hope some people, if they actually dare to ride the 150 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,840 light rail, you know, should be very aware because this 151 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,840 young girl obviously had her ear pods in. Yeah, she 152 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,639 was probably trying to stay I'm. 153 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: Just guessing, as you know, under the radar. 154 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, circumspect or whatever as she could. Yeah, but situational 155 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,200 awareness is very important. 156 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:22,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. 157 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:24,759 Speaker 2: No, I wish I had been on that train because 158 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:26,200 I would have taken his head off. 159 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: Dave. I appreciate I appreciate the call, man, I do, 160 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:31,320 I really do. I got to run to a traffic update. 161 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Good to hear from you, all right, buddy, Yeah, I 162 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,639 mean it makes me angry too. 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This action came 204 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,840 after the deaths of George Floyd, Brionna Taylor, and many 205 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:04,519 others at the hands of law enforcement officers. The circumstances 206 00:12:04,519 --> 00:12:08,080 of their deaths led to widespread public protests throughout the country, 207 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:12,200 including in North Carolina, and conversations about the systemic racism 208 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,559 and resulting harm that black people and other communities of 209 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,320 color have experienced for decades in housing, employment, education, healthcare, 210 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,919 and criminal justice. Governor Cooper asked the task Force to 211 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:29,720 recommend solutions to end disparate outcomes in the criminal justice system. 212 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,440 I'm going to come back to that. That's a very 213 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:39,360 important term, disparate outcomes as well as mitigate the effects 214 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,759 of bias and discrimination, and increase accountability in law enforcement 215 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:48,279 and criminal justice. The statistics that illustrate racial inequity in 216 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:54,200 criminal justice are staggering, and they give three that black 217 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,759 adults in America are about six times as likely to 218 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:02,000 be incarcerated than why adults, twice is likely to be 219 00:13:02,039 --> 00:13:04,519 pulled over for a traffic stop than white adults, and 220 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,679 more likely to be jailed before trial. And that's where 221 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:15,919 the cash lists bail system comes into play. North Carolina's 222 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:20,519 criminal justice system is afflicted with long standing systemic racism. 223 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:27,120 It is pervasive and wrong and must be remedied. Okay, 224 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:31,799 how can you make such a definitive claim? The evidence 225 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,639 for this claim is in the quote disparate outcome and 226 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,679 what that means, And this shows up in Supreme court rulings. 227 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:43,679 I forget what the name of the case is now, 228 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,720 but it had to do with like housing in New 229 00:13:45,799 --> 00:13:49,159 York City or something. And what it says is that 230 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:58,679 if you have outcomes that disproportionately reflect one demographic population, 231 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,799 then that is proof of discrimination or in this case, 232 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:12,720 systemic racism. So if you have, for example, in this case, 233 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:21,080 you have more black people being incarcerated as a percentage 234 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,679 of their population, then you have white people being incarcerated 235 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,799 as a percentage of their population. Then that means racism. 236 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:34,720 And of course people like me were saying, this is 237 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:41,159 a farce because you are ignoring all other contributing factors. 238 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:49,360 You are assigning the cause without including all of the 239 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,720 other factors such as, just to name a couple off 240 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,039 the top of my head, fatherlessness. Right. The studies have 241 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 shown if you don't have a father in the house, 242 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,679 chances are not always, but chances are greater that you 243 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:08,960 are going to have worse outcomes as an adult. Whether 244 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:13,360 it's criminal activity, lower wages, or something, right, you're going 245 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:17,919 to have worse outcomes. That's why when people succeed from 246 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,919 a single parent home, particularly single mother homes, that's why 247 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,519 it's such a it's such a success story because you 248 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:32,519 have you've got a privilege that others don't enjoy. The fatherlessness. 249 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:42,519 That's not racism, right, that's a factor. What else, Well, 250 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:49,399 how about a culture that celebrates criminality. And this is 251 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,799 not just in the black community, this is also in 252 00:15:51,799 --> 00:15:55,120 the white community. There are white communities that celebrate criminality 253 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:58,799 different types of criminal activity as well. Part of that 254 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:02,960 is the snitches get stitches mentality. Right, By the way, 255 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,720 random question, have they ever caught any of the people 256 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,840 that engaged in the massive mass shooting on Beatysford Road 257 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:16,600 for the Juneteenth Street celebration. How long ago was that now? 258 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:20,720 Four years, five years ago, something like that? Hundreds of people, 259 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:24,360 a bunch of people shot and killed, others wounded, and 260 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,759 still no suspects. Right. If you have a culture that 261 00:16:31,919 --> 00:16:35,480 celebrates criminality, and the great philosopher Chris Rock talked about 262 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,559 this in one of his famous lectures, already talked about 263 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,840 getting more respect coming out of prison than coming out 264 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:45,600 of college. Right, if you have a culture, if you 265 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,360 have an environment where that is overlooked or celebrated, you're 266 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:53,840 going to get more of it. Right, So, therefore, might 267 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:56,799 that be a contributing factor when you behave in an 268 00:16:56,879 --> 00:17:01,759 anti social way that the society then punishes you because 269 00:17:01,799 --> 00:17:06,000 you're behaving in an antisocial way. This has always been 270 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,839 the scam of disparate outcome, always, but this is what 271 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,359 was used to justify the policies that the leftists wanted 272 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,119 to implement. This is how they rationalize it, this is 273 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,759 how they justify it. So when I was a kid, 274 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:24,640 my grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before he died, my 275 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,599 mom and my dad took care of him as he 276 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,440 got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments and 277 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:32,599 not much support for caregivers and family. But things are 278 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,240 different today because of the work of so many people, 279 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,839 including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great 280 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,200 organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a 281 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,160 supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot 282 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,519 to me. I participate in the annual Walk to end 283 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:51,480 Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year, 284 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:54,720 and it's called once again Pete's Pack. You can sign 285 00:17:54,839 --> 00:17:57,000 up and you can join the team and walk with us. 286 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,359 It's on October eighteenth, that truest field. Sign up at 287 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,960 alz dot org slash walk and then you could search 288 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:06,960 for my team name Pete's Peck. There's also a link 289 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,640 at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the 290 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,960 description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the 291 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,839 Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and so you can make 292 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,079 a team and join that one too, or make a 293 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,839 donation and help me hit my goal of five thousand dollars. 294 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,000 If you do, I really appreciate it. There are a 295 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,599 bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can 296 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,359 go to alz dot org slash walk for all the 297 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,000 dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's. 298 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:33,839 Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me? 299 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:37,960 For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments. 300 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,279 This is why we walk. From the Task Force for 301 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:46,799 Racial Equity and Criminal Justice, or the Trek their summary 302 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:51,000 published in twenty twenty, Governor Roy Cooper convened the Trek 303 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:54,680 and put in charge of it now Governor then Attorney 304 00:18:54,680 --> 00:19:00,440 General Josh Stein, along with Associate Justice Anita Earls, who 305 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:02,960 is up for election in twenty twenty six, by the way, 306 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,920 and so they chaired this committee and they met virtually 307 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,119 because of COVID and all that. And in the summary, 308 00:19:09,319 --> 00:19:12,359 the executive summary, they say, our state can and must 309 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,759 be a leader in continuing to fight and overcome racism. 310 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:21,200 And so I'm assuming that their belief is these recommendations 311 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,359 will help them do so. Governor Cooper asked the task 312 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Force to identify intentional and unintentional racial biases the criminal 313 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,559 justice and law enforcement systems, and to highlight the unequal 314 00:19:35,599 --> 00:19:38,880 outcomes that result from these biases. By the way, reading 315 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,079 through all of the report again this morning, having read 316 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:45,200 it in about five years and reading through it again, 317 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,640 they actually come up with no intentional racial biases. They 318 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,079 just they couldn't find any. And that's the beauty really 319 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,799 of the systemic racism argument is that you don't know 320 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,519 who to hold accountable. Show me the racist, right, Okay, 321 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,680 let's fire that guy. But if it's a systemic problem, 322 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,039 well then we just get to write all sorts of 323 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,960 new policies and stuff and do this other agenda without 324 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,799 actually finding any racists inside the institutions. 325 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: Right. 326 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Russ writes in on Twitter that Wilford Riley, he's a 327 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:28,279 great writer researcher is constantly debunking these claims about disparate 328 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,720 outcomes and racism by simply looking at multiple variables exactly, 329 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:36,799 just look at different variables. But when you say, oh, 330 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:44,480 we have a different outcome, therefore racism, no, that's not proof. 331 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,920 A different outcome indicates that there's something going on, But 332 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,839 what are the various variables that might contribute to those outcomes? 333 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,440 For example, one of the most violent populations throughout American history, 334 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:05,920 do you know who it's been Scott's Irish in Appalachia. Yeah, 335 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,240 there's a book that I interviewed the author. I forget 336 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,759 who it is now, but he's a famous researcher and author, 337 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,799 The Rise and Fall of Violent Crime in America. And 338 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,039 he said, we don't know why, and you could make 339 00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:23,960 some sort of educated guesses as to the culture that 340 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,279 they came from with the boxing and fighting and all 341 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:30,079 of that stuff. I don't know, but there are different 342 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:39,440 population groups that have different violence stats. Does that mean 343 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,519 that we're racist against the Scotts Irish according to Disbert outcome? Yeah, 344 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,279 according to that theory. So what were the recommendations? Well, 345 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:51,119 I'm going to run through a bunch of them real quick, 346 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:57,440 reimagining public safety, improving policing practices, under which they say 347 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:03,759 community policing, where they recommend that officers spend more time 348 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,720 building relationships through non law enforcement activities such as community 349 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:15,400 service and sports investigations. Black drivers are twice as likely 350 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,839 to be pulled over as white drivers, So why is 351 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,200 that they don't say? Is that racial profiling? That's what 352 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,960 they want us to I guess assume that they're that 353 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:30,039 they're DWB driving while black, or is it possible that 354 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,400 they're being pulled over for break lights, being out right, 355 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,680 driving erradically, driving too fast, driving too slow, Like, I 356 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,920 don't know, I'm just throwing different reasons why people get 357 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,960 pulled over, not wearing a seatbelt? Right? Is there something like, 358 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,359 for example, whenever we talk about police shootings and these 359 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,839 these videos that come out of police abuse of a 360 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,640 person who's pulled over something or law enforcement interaction, there 361 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,480 is a belief among a lot of people in the 362 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,400 quote black community, which I hate that phrase because people 363 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,519 are individuals, but there's a prevalent belief that you have 364 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:13,960 a quote right to resist. Did you know that a 365 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,960 right to resist? They believe that this is something they're 366 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,000 allowed to do and should do, which then, of course 367 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:29,119 escalates the situation because you're resisting and cops don't like 368 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,880 that very much. North Carolina, I believe we put it 369 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,759 into law that we were now going to teach as 370 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:41,279 part of driver's ed how to behave during a traffic stop. Again, 371 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,720 the philosopher Chris Rock had a fantastic instructional video on 372 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:50,759 this years ago. The TREK members also recommended establishing and 373 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:54,160 expanding access to diversion programs that help people get the 374 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,480 healthcare treatment that they need for addiction. Trek also recommends 375 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,839 law enforcement issue citations in lieu of arrests for misdemeanors 376 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:06,480 whenever possible, So stop arresting people, give them citations, and 377 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:09,240 then tell them to show up in court, and then 378 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,759 if they don't, whatever, if they do, get it dismissed. 379 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,039 I guess or whatever. So this is why you get 380 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:17,759 labeled soft on crime is because these are the things 381 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,720 that you are promoting because you think it's harming people's 382 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:24,400 ability to get ahead, not engaging in the criminal activity, 383 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,440 not playing by the rules, not following the law. That's 384 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,759 not the case. It's that everything is geared oppressor versus oppressed, 385 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,960 and all of the institutions are aimed against you. They 386 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,200 talk about the appropriate use of force peaceful protests and demonstrations, 387 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,640 in other words, handle them with kid gloves. Officer standards. 388 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,680 They recommend the Standards Commission give themselves the authority to suspend, 389 00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:52,599 to revoke, or deny certification of officers for excessive or 390 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240 unjustified use of force or abuse of the power of 391 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,920 their position. I agree with that one. And then there 392 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,599 was this one body warn and dashboard cameras they recommend 393 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:09,799 mandating body cams for all law enforcement agencies and dashboard 394 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,519 cameras in most patrol and vehicles and field vehicles, and 395 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,240 releasing law enforcement recordings of critical incidents within forty five 396 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,440 days unless a court finds it would interfere with an 397 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,160 ongoing criminal investigation. So merely five years ago, this was 398 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,359 what the left wanted. They wanted the videos released immediately. 399 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,920 Yet Mark Caputo over at axios dot com with a 400 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,759 headline stabbing video fuels Maga's crime message. He points out 401 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:44,279 that the rising number of surveillance cameras in public spaces, 402 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,119 including Charlotte's light rail, has become a big accelerant in 403 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,880 these cases, right spreading the video viral. It's easily shared 404 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,519 and leaked and can instantly pollinate across social media, a 405 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:02,200 visual counterpoint to statistics showing crime decreases. So well, that 406 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,720 almost sounds like you're arguing that we don't have the videos. 407 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,559 What changed? Was it the details of this specific case? 408 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,480 All right, So you've heard me talk about creative video 409 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,839 for almost a year. 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And they 437 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:51,839 have all these different things, like a lot of it 438 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,680 focused on law enforcement, like psychological screenings of law enforcement officers, 439 00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:02,960 bodycam footage, all that stuff, best practices for recruitment and 440 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:08,200 retention of officers, training, and that sort of stuff. And 441 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,759 then there was this eliminating racial disparities in the courts. 442 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,640 The committee or the task force members looked at various 443 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,680 ways to improve racial equity in the court system at 444 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,240 all stages, as disparities arise before an accused person trial, 445 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,799 a person's trial even begins in the case of violent crime, 446 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,559 which fortunately is rare in North Carolina. Spoiler it's not 447 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,880 I have the stats. Anyway, the task force recommends emphasizing 448 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,240 accountability for people who commit crimes and responses that will 449 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,000 help make victims whole, rather than those that are entirely punitive. 450 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:47,960 Did you catch that? In other words, less punishment, more 451 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,799 restorative justice. And they use that term as practice is 452 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,720 known as restorative justice. They then talk about the quote 453 00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,160 school to prison pipeline, which basically starts when a kid 454 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,920 can't read by grade three. And if you cannot read 455 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:09,119 at grade level by grade three, the data shows that 456 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:12,480 you are going to have poor outcomes for the rest 457 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:17,200 of your life, and that means higher rates of criminality. 458 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:23,359 So maybe focus on getting kids to read by grade 459 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,480 level by grade three. Right, that seems like a good idea, 460 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,279 seems like a good focus. But for some reason, we 461 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,160 want to read. You know, Johnny has seventeen dads to 462 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:35,799 the kid instead. I don't know why I would think 463 00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,799 that you should probably try to focus on getting them 464 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,400 to memorize the ABC's first, you know, requiring additional school 465 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,200 personnel review complaints from school resource officers before they can 466 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,160 be filed in juvenile court. So, in other words, add 467 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,880 somebody else to act as a break to prevent a 468 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,480 kid that has done something illegal from being referred to 469 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,519 juvenile court by an SRO, which is a sworn law 470 00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,759 enforcement officer. So you're going to actually you're going to 471 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:11,079 have school personnel stepping in when you have a law 472 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,279 enforcement officer that says you're going to get arrested for 473 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,119 doing this behavior. No no, no send in the guidance counselor, 474 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,079 they say, decriminalize marijuana possession and other crimes. Recommends general 475 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,160 statutes and municipal criminal codes be scrutinized with a view 476 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:36,519 towards eliminating quote, unnecessary crimes. Unnecessary crimes, So okay, just 477 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,440 wipe them off the books, and now it's not illegal anymore. 478 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,440 Look at that, Isn't that amazing? They also recommend solutions 479 00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:49,039 to help prosecutors and prosecutorial staff identify and address unconscious bias, 480 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,799 and provide additional funding so that prosecutors and defense attorneys 481 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,920 can review case outcomes and address systemic racial disparities in 482 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:01,920 charging decisions. Plea offers status offenses, and other aspects of 483 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,319 their work. So when you get a recommendation like this 484 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:11,039 from the governor, the Attorney General, and an associate Supreme 485 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,240 Court justice, and it's been worked on by all of 486 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:18,359 these experts, I'm sure all of the left in the 487 00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:24,039 state of North Carolina to cobble together this judicial philosophy overhaul. Right, 488 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,960 The message is very clear that if you have too 489 00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:32,079 many people of a certain demographic that's overrepresented in the data, 490 00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:35,039 then you shouldn't be charging them with so much stuff 491 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:41,400 or such high offense stuff. The message goes out, stop 492 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,200 charging people with these crimes, and I think that might 493 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160 have something to do with the state we're in. All right, 494 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,559 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 495 00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:52,640 for listening. I could not do the show without your 496 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 497 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,279 the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too 498 00:31:58,319 --> 00:31:59,960 and tell them you heard it here. 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