1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,879 Speaker 1: Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:05,639 not intended for all audiences. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,359 Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advice. 4 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: She said, do you think that I will ever be 5 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:18,519 able to forget the sound of someone trying to breathe? 6 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is season eleven, episode seventy of Sword 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,320 and Scale, the show that reveals that the worst monsters 8 00:00:32,399 --> 00:01:04,560 are real. Well, I have nothing clever to say today, 9 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,159 nothing to upset or piss off the audience of people 10 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,799 that are always very eager to be offended by things. 11 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:17,280 In this case, it was the attempt to the assassination 12 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:22,239 of former and future US president. We all seem to 13 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,439 have lost our fucking minds. So if you're calling for 14 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,400 the death of another human being, please leave. We don't 15 00:01:28,400 --> 00:02:11,400 need to hear. We are constantly being watched these days 16 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,879 through various forms of technology that monitor the most mundane 17 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,840 parts of our lives, driving through morning traffic, buying a donut, 18 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,960 that sort of thing. Then there's the things we're willingly 19 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:32,879 offering up ourselves, like, for example, dancing on TikTok, or 20 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:38,199 posting pictures of our weekend on Instagram, or tweeting about 21 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:42,360 what an idiot Elizabeth Warren is and yes I did 22 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,719 call it tweeting because I don't know what else to 23 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:51,120 call it. But despite that, despite the big daddy state, 24 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,599 the surveillance state from nineteen eighty four that we're all 25 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,960 living in currently, people still do horrible things, almost as 26 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,280 if deterrence don't always work. It's like they don't even 27 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,639 think about the fact that they're being watched twenty four 28 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,680 to seven. I mean, most of us probably don't think 29 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:14,159 about that, so I guess it makes sense. Whether you 30 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:16,879 go to the gas station or DM a friend on Instagram, 31 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,560 you are constantly being tracked. The government can find out 32 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:27,560 exactly where you were at what time pretty much unless 33 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:33,439 you take precautions, unless you cover your tracks. Listen, I'm 34 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:37,439 not going into a boomer state of the world spraying 35 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:39,719 you with the garden hose kind of thing. Just bear 36 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:44,400 with me here. The point is that despite knowing all 37 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:47,240 of this, criminals still think that they can get away 38 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,960 with murder for some reason, and sometimes they actually can. 39 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:56,879 You would assume, as a logical person that crime rates 40 00:03:56,879 --> 00:04:00,599 would be going down in such a surveillance state, but 41 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,719 it's quite the opposite. The thing about footage is that 42 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:09,120 we still don't get the full story. That's the problem 43 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:13,120 with things like TikTok, where you have a fifteen second 44 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,639 condensed piece of information with no context. What happens when, 45 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,680 let's say, surveillance video lacks sound. It's easy to think 46 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,720 we can get a full picture just from surveillance footage, 47 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,000 but sometimes what's recorded can fit multiple stories at once, 48 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,920 and the truth is always hidden much deeper and is 49 00:04:37,959 --> 00:05:19,319 often much harder to decipher. On October fifth, twenty seventeen, 50 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,079 police were called to a quaint apartment in Plantation, Florida. 51 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:26,399 Sergeant Chris Tapher was one of them. 52 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: Warriors Plantations Sarmn City, Plantation, almost twenty four years. 53 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Sergeant, And were you working. 54 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: There back in October fifth of twenty seventeen, Yes, And 55 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:44,800 what were what were you doing for the police department 56 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,120 about that? 57 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: I was a real patrol officer and on that day, 58 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,319 this incident happened two weeks before I got promoted. So 59 00:05:51,639 --> 00:05:53,839 during this incident, on that day, I was actually riding 60 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:57,720 with then Sergeant Ryan. She was training me in my 61 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,319 new position. 62 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 6: Okay, tell us little bit about when you got there, 63 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:04,399 anything that you noticed right. 64 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 4: When you buy on scene, as far as walking inside 65 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,600 the house. I noticed that there was a female in 66 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,920 the living room. She was talking to an officer seemed 67 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,519 visibly upset. 68 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:21,399 Speaker 1: The woman who was visibly upset was Isabella Tegliorini. Her 69 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:24,439 dyed blonde hair hung over her face as she sobbed. 70 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: And what else did you notice that she kept going 71 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:27,560 to the hall? 72 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: I noticed just doing the cursory walk through the house, 73 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:33,639 I noticed that in one of the bedrooms, all the 74 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:36,759 furniture appeared to be moved in the middle. There was 75 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,040 also a very strong smell of household cleaning products, specifically Fabuloso, 76 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,920 which has a very distinct scent to it. Inside that 77 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,600 bedroom was also on one of the walls freshly applied 78 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:54,120 wet paint. I could tell that it was white just 79 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,680 due to the smell of paint in that specific room, 80 00:06:57,079 --> 00:06:59,519 as well as the way that the light from the 81 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,480 window was glistening on the machine of the newly applied paint. 82 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:06,879 Also in that room was a red solo cup like 83 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:09,360 the time you would drink in a party from It 84 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,319 had n a liquid in it also, and then on 85 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:14,000 the inside of the white part of the cup there 86 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,279 appeared to be some dark red spots. 87 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:18,079 Speaker 2: That was also in the room. 88 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,959 Speaker 1: After walking through what felt like a renovated bathroom with 89 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,120 one lone red party cup. Sargeant Taufer made his way 90 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,199 out to the backyard. 91 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:32,439 Speaker 4: Walking through the residence again, out towards the back adio, 92 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:36,000 there was a wet mop that was on the ground 93 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,120 leaning against the side of the house. Cement underneath it 94 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:42,560 was wet, so that indicates to me that the mop 95 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:45,519 had been whit or freshly used. 96 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: More officers soon arrived on the scene. Isabella sat crying 97 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,680 as the Plantation Police Department invaded her home and started 98 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,680 poking around. 99 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,519 Speaker 7: She was scared. 100 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:04,319 Speaker 1: Her roommate, list Willcox, was missing, but Isabella knew exactly 101 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:07,360 where he was, and she said she would show police. 102 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Here's Lieutenant Kuca. 103 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: I was instructed to take a witness, Isabella Taglerini, and 104 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,000 transport her to knob Hill and Cleary Boulevard to the rear. 105 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Of a publix. And when you took her, did you 106 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,519 take her in your vehicle? 107 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:26,079 Speaker 7: I did? 108 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: And was she front her to the back? She was 109 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,240 in the back seat. She just transported. 110 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:32,279 Speaker 7: Nobody rides in the front seat. 111 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 5: Who was giving any directions? 112 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 7: She was? 113 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: And you remember if she said anything as you were 114 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,240 getting close to she did she actually made a specific statement. 115 00:08:44,279 --> 00:08:45,360 I just read it out of my report. 116 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,919 Speaker 3: She said, this is the area I remember those cameras. 117 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,519 Speaker 8: She pointed for the. 118 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: Cameras at the public's Isabella led the officers towards a 119 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:57,440 big dumpster and did you. 120 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Approach that dumpster? 121 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: They did? 122 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,519 Speaker 2: What did you notice about it? When you walked back there? 123 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,399 Speaker 4: I noticed that there were some blue latex kind of 124 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,639 medical gloves, like the kind of a nurse or a 125 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,279 doctor would where they were on the ground right in 126 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,039 front of the dumpster. 127 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Then all the officers looked inside. 128 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: I saw a tark elongated, probably around six feet or 129 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:27,000 so in length. On each end of the tarp was 130 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:29,960 a belt like a dress belt, like the kind of 131 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,879 a man would wear with a suit on both the 132 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,480 top and the bottom of the tarp. 133 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: The contents of the tarp looked human, like someone had 134 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:42,600 stuffed a limp body into a giant tube and tied 135 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:48,360 it off with two belts. It was Nicholas Wilcox. Isabella 136 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,039 Taglierini confirmed it. Here is Prosecutor Peter Sapek. 137 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,639 Speaker 7: My name is Peter Spak. I've been working for the 138 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,879 State Attorney's Office seventeenth Ususual Circuit for about eighteen years. 139 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:06,159 About seven of those has been in a homicide in 140 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,000 capital crimes. 141 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: Pierce Apak was one of the detectives called after Nicholas 142 00:10:10,879 --> 00:10:13,080 Wilcox's body was found. 143 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,279 Speaker 7: The medical examiner, I don't have it in front of me, 144 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,960 but if I remember, is Blunforth's trauma. He had a 145 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,799 number of very deep wounds to his face which were 146 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,639 consistent with a very hard object hitting him a number 147 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,679 of times, and also some stab wounds around his neck area. 148 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,840 So the way he down died was Blunforth's trauma in 149 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,519 combination with some stab wounds. Where he was found in 150 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,559 the dumpster, he was actually in a tarp blue grayish 151 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:41,840 tarp that was taped up. 152 00:10:42,919 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Nicholas Wilcox had been beaten and stabbed, then rolled into 153 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,320 a tarp and chucked into a dumpster behind the Publix. 154 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,000 Quite an unceremonious ending, if you ask me. The thirty 155 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,399 nine year old general contractor had been living a simple life, 156 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,200 devoid of crime. He was separated from the mother of 157 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:06,120 his children, but spent plenty of time with his kids. 158 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,120 He wasn't doing anything remarkable or unremarkable, as this is 159 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,080 often the case for most victims, but Isabella had not 160 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,200 called the police to report Nicholas missing. This whole thing 161 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,879 started to unravel when she got her ex husband involved. 162 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 7: If she had to understand that, Isabella called her ex husband, 163 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,720 mister tagler Reini, but she had no idea that mister 164 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:34,360 Taglerine would go out of his way and call the 165 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,600 Plantation Police department. So when the police arrived, she's kind 166 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:39,240 of caught off guard. 167 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Isabella did not expect the police to come rolling into 168 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:46,919 her apartment that day, smell the bleach and the fabuloso 169 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,519 and see the wet paint. She never expected the cleanup 170 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,600 job to be spotted. As the police drove Isabella down 171 00:11:55,639 --> 00:11:58,480 to the police station to speak with her, she kept 172 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,879 quiet well for the most part. 173 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: She said, uh, do you think that I will ever 174 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,399 be able to forget the sound of someone trying to breathe. 175 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:38,279 Speaker 1: Isabella Taglierini was a Brazilian immigrant who, like most women 176 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,240 in her position, came to the United States for a 177 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,480 better life. Here's prosecutor saypack again. 178 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 7: When she originally came here was with either a boyfriend 179 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:52,679 or another ex husband, and that that relationship fell apart 180 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:56,080 because there was domestic violence. So she was really left 181 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,840 in this country by herself, and she met mister Taglerini, 182 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:02,240 and you know, kind of developed from their own So 183 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,960 she did move here with another man at first. 184 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,879 Speaker 1: After Isabella divorced her first husband, Nicholas Teglerini, she met 185 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:14,840 a man named Eric Robinson. Eric was a bit older 186 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,440 than Isabella. He was big and burley, with a shaved 187 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:22,639 head and kind of mean eyes. He'd been involved in 188 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:26,600 some criminal activity, but worked construction and spent most of 189 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,759 his time at the gym. I'm going to reiterate he 190 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,679 was a big dude, but he was. 191 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 7: Known to be a gym rat. That's where he met. 192 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:38,840 There might have been some incidents of steroid ust, so 193 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,799 you know, he was a bigger guy. 194 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Isabella and Eric struck up a romance as soon as 195 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:48,840 they moved in together in June of twenty sixteen. Due 196 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,720 to her immigration status, Isabella relied on the men in 197 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,600 her life for employment. She never really had a career 198 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,720 of her own. She moved to America on the back 199 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:03,919 of old boyfriend, and then when she married Nicholas Taglierini 200 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:07,720 in Florida, he took care of her. Now that she 201 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:10,600 had started things up with Eric, she relied on him 202 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,679 in the same way. 203 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:14,759 Speaker 7: She really never had a job of her own. She 204 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:17,960 was always taken care of, whether it be her ex 205 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,960 husband mister Tagler Reini, or Eric Robinson or Nicholas Wilcox. 206 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,799 You know, she was always you know, she was always 207 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,840 looking for somebody to take care of her. 208 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,759 Speaker 1: I believe that was the dynamic, and it suited Eric nicely. 209 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,840 You see, Eric was a controlling guy. I'm trying to 210 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:40,159 paint you a picture of Eric that translates into words. 211 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,679 Imagine an aging club bro in his fifties with bad 212 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:51,039 tribal tattoos and a shimmering tan. Yeah, that kind of guy. 213 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,679 The kind of guy who posts pictures on Facebook of 214 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:01,639 himself wearing salmon pink pinstriped shirts with bejeweled patter. Are 215 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,120 you starting to get a vibeer? Isabella was under Eric's 216 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:09,519 thumb and he took advantage of that. Plus, they weren't 217 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:13,840 the most chill couple on earth. According to neighbors, the 218 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:17,799 two fought constantly, and sometimes they're fighting spilled out onto 219 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,279 the street for all to see. 220 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: There's always issues here at this house. She ran over 221 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,720 me a couple of times to escape, and she's always 222 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,480 screamed and stuff about what he's doing to guy Eric. 223 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: He was a big guy. As if things weren't crazy enough, 224 00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:37,440 Eric and Isabella decided to invite their friend Nicholas Wilcox 225 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,600 to move into their shit show. Maybe they thought that 226 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,000 a third party would help keep the peace. Maybe they 227 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,080 just needed the extra income. Either way, thirty nine year 228 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,559 old Nicholas moved in. 229 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 7: Nicholas Wilcox. 230 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 8: When did he move into that? 231 00:15:53,399 --> 00:16:02,039 Speaker 2: Apartments? In the middle of two set him? Nicholas was 232 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:02,440 a roommate? 233 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:02,799 Speaker 4: Correct? 234 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:03,799 Speaker 2: Was the roommate? 235 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 7: How many bedrooms in that department or that house? 236 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:13,879 Speaker 9: Three bedrooms master, a master, vagiol, avestamle inside and then 237 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,480 two other bed two other bedrooms and investment. 238 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:21,519 Speaker 7: So Nicholas would have his own bedroom. 239 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,639 Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Did you share a bedroom with Eric? Yes, 240 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:29,080 we did, specifically our August of that year. Were you 241 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:31,840 sharing your bedroom of Eric? Yes, I was. 242 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: Nicholas moved in and Isabella soon started working for him. 243 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,759 She had no job and he needed an extra set 244 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:40,200 of hands. 245 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,639 Speaker 7: What did Nicholas will Cox you for a living? 246 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: He was a general contractor. Are you a general contractor? 247 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:48,159 Speaker 9: No? Not? 248 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: How would you be working for him? He offered me 249 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,200 the job in the beginning to dig and to clean. 250 00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,440 The places where he was. 251 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,919 Speaker 7: Were keen, and the majority of time, which county were 252 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,359 you working? 253 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,599 Speaker 2: We were was some beach. 254 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: Working together every day. Nicholas and Isabella developed a strong friendship. 255 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,799 He often did work preparing houses for hurricanes, and as 256 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,039 Hurricane Irma loomed in the distance, so did a spark 257 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:28,240 between the two roommates. But then, in June of twenty seventeen, 258 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,240 a big fight between Isabella and Eric erupted in the home. 259 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,279 He was arrested on domestic violence and strangulation charges, but 260 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,279 let out two days later. Isabella did not want to 261 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:44,960 press charges. Here's prosecutor say, pack again. 262 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:47,279 Speaker 7: So many times you see this, and I've had this 263 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,119 in many homicides where the woman or a man is 264 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,480 beaten and it happens over and over again, and all 265 00:17:54,519 --> 00:17:56,519 you see is the victim, you know, show up to 266 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,279 the state at Journey's office and say they don't want 267 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:01,359 to prosecute, and it's a circle, and sometimes it ends 268 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,559 up in murder. 269 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: So Eric was released and things in the apartment only 270 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:10,680 intensified between the three. Though he had not made it 271 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,960 known yet, Nicholas developed a crush on Isabella and would 272 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,440 often get involved when she and Eric argued, no. 273 00:18:17,599 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 7: There was even a recording that we had, and on 274 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:24,799 their recording, it's Isabella Tagerini recording a fight between Eric 275 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,279 Robinson and Nicholas Wilcox and they're really getting into it, 276 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:33,599 and the reason for the fight is something to do 277 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,799 with Isabella. And at one point where when Eric Robinson 278 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,799 realizes that Isabella Tagerini is recording both of them, he 279 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,079 jumps on top of Isabella and you can you can 280 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:44,920 hear her screaming. 281 00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: Tensions were high, but Isabella and Eric stayed together and 282 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:54,400 she went off to work every day with Nicholas. What 283 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:59,640 a strange arrangement. Then in August of twenty seventeen, Eric 284 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:04,519 was arrested for cocaine possession. This time it would not 285 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,319 be bailed out quite so quickly. Nicholas and Isabella continued 286 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:16,079 living in the apartment together despite Eric's absence. And I 287 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,200 bet you can kind of guess what happens next. 288 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 8: At any point, did you develop a relationship with Nicholas Wlocox? Yes, 289 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:36,920 how long did it take? And did you have any 290 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,440 communication with Eric Robinson on that point? You moved out 291 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,400 to Nicholas Molokos. 292 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm see you moved out to Nicholas wlocos. Yes. 293 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: According to Isabella, it took a few weeks, but soon 294 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,359 Nicholas was sleeping in her room. Their relationship had been 295 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,400 growing for so long that it was only a matter 296 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,279 of time, but for the spark would ignite, before the 297 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,039 very white music would start playing, before love would be 298 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:14,119 in the air or something. Anyway, With Eric stuck behind bars, 299 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,599 Nicholas and Isabella were safe to embark on the honeymoon 300 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,480 phase of their romance. It was like a fairy tale. 301 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:25,720 That is, until the early morning hours of October fifth, 302 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:30,680 twenty seventeen. Isabella and Nicholas were laying in bed, sound 303 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:35,480 asleep after another blissful night together of fucking and whatever 304 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:40,720 else they were doing, when Isabella was jolted awake at 305 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:42,799 two thirty in the morning. 306 00:20:43,079 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: I will call with Eric holding my mouse in my egg. 307 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:57,039 And then I opened my eyes. The television was so 308 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,000 and the lights were on. 309 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:08,839 Speaker 1: Top of you, or he was on top of me, 310 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,160 and the faint glow of the television still on and 311 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,680 flickering in the corner of the room. Isabella saw Eric's 312 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:21,680 angry face and he climbed on top of her, crushing 313 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:25,160 her body down with all of his might, and like 314 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,039 I said, big dude. 315 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: Well at that moment, Eric made a question, Now ask 316 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:38,039 him if I want to leave or die, and also 317 00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:43,759 telling me to be quiet, continue holding. I couldn't turn 318 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:52,200 my head, Jimmy said, and I could hear Nicholas Milcox 319 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,039 struggling to breathe. 320 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 5: What do you mean by that? 321 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,599 Speaker 2: Was a noise that will never leave my mind forever 322 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:08,119 heard of all person struggling. I couldn't see him, but 323 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:17,680 he was struggling. Terrible noise like a noise like this 324 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,880 in my mind. I saw that Nick was scared or 325 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,519 I didn't know he was hurt. Then Eric woke me 326 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:36,720 out of the bed until around the bed I couldn't 327 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,519 see Nick, and a glimpse of my eyes I saw 328 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,960 some scene on his face that looked like wood. 329 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,079 Speaker 1: Eric through the comforter over Isabella's head and covered her mouth. 330 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,559 Then he marched her into the living room and shoved 331 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:59,759 her down onto the floor, set me down, and. 332 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: He was telling me that he was seeing not sure 333 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:07,599 if he was going to kill me. 334 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:14,599 Speaker 10: To ask him why, I she didn't know him and 335 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:25,559 stayed with Nicholas Wilcox and we could listen Nicholas trying 336 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,359 to raise and he said he had. 337 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: To finish his show. 338 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: Eric grabbed a crowbar and stormed back into the bedroom 339 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:38,160 towards his former roommate and friend, Nicholas. 340 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: He had a big piece of metal, dark metal like 341 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,920 I didn't know the name before, but was a big 342 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:57,680 metal and he was he was doing like hitting him 343 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:05,799 several times and saying, dying, mantherhooker, dying manerhook her, and 344 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,000 that's that's why he was doing. Until the noise disappeared. 345 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:18,039 I couldn't look. I was so afraid, so scared because I. 346 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Knew it was going to be the next Isabella sat 347 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:25,559 in the hallway trembling as she listened to Eric pommel 348 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,720 Nicholas over and over with a metal rod until the 349 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:37,119 gurgling stopped. Blood had sprayed all over the bedroom. Isabella 350 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:43,640 was shrieking and Nicholas was dead. Eric then comes back 351 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,119 out into the living room and starts talking to Isabella. 352 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: He told me, where is your medications for anxiety depression? 353 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,599 I said it inside the bedroom in the same Joe 354 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:08,039 so Hate told me he gave me. Tell me to 355 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:16,160 stay four bars and then have some vot. I could 356 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,279 come down and probably he could take control of my actions. 357 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: After that, Eric gave Isabella her cocktail of vodka and xanax, 358 00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:33,079 then wasted no time getting to work cleaning up the mess. Now, 359 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,200 let's be clear, four bars of xanax, in case you 360 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:40,480 don't know, is quite a bit about as much as 361 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:45,880 some people take before calling into our voicemail hotline eight 362 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:49,720 nine six eight five four. So she must have been 363 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:50,680 completely out of it. 364 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: Eric was preparing, Eric asking me if there was there 365 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:05,640 was black bags or something else, and somehow he came 366 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:09,400 up with a tar, silver tarn. 367 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,039 Speaker 7: Where did he get the silver tar? 368 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: I mean it was in the house because that was 369 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:21,799 Nicholas John. He was putting tarps in the roofs, in 370 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,519 the roof of the houses because there was a hurricane. 371 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: Isabella trembled as she watched Eric wrap Nicholas in a tar. 372 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 5: He wrapped it. 373 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: Like a briton, and he put two belts, one around 374 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:53,279 the neck and one around the feat. I remember one 375 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:59,160 of the belts, Eric mentioning the motherfucker was using my belts, 376 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,119 was along the house. 377 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Eric took both her and Nicholas's phones and told her 378 00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:10,279 not to bother trying to call for help. 379 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:18,839 Speaker 2: I couldn't signs that was militory order to stay next 380 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:19,039 to you. 381 00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Eric dragged Nicholas out of the bedroom and shoved him 382 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,960 into the back of his work truck. The sun was 383 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,160 beginning to come up and Isabella's reality was closing in 384 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:33,599 on her. Eric said she was next if she did anything, 385 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,960 called anyone, or tried to run. He threatened to have 386 00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:42,960 her kids back in Brazil murdered. He had connections, he said, 387 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,519 Why wouldn't Isabella believe him? Eric was supposed to be 388 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,240 locked up in jail for a long time for drug charges. 389 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,279 Then boom, all of a sudden, he shows up in 390 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:57,839 her bedroom and kills her boyfriend. Thank you American criminal 391 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,680 justice system. Bill beck ut her my ass I was. 392 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: So scared, so free, and I didn't trust the niece at. 393 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: That time, because that's the thing, and why Isabella Tegnerini 394 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,039 was on the witness stand and why she had been 395 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,720 arrested herself. Eric left, He wrapped up Nicholas and left 396 00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:26,799 Isabella all alone in the apartment with her phone for hours. 397 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,279 She could have called the cops. She could have run 398 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,519 outside and screamed for any one of the neighbors who 399 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,759 knew how dangerous, Eric was, but she didn't. Instead, she 400 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,799 did what Eric told her to do. She started cleaning 401 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:48,799 the apartment as Isabella floated around the murder scene in 402 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:53,400 a traumatic daze. She sobbed and wondered how Eric had 403 00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:57,960 known what was going on between her and Nicholas. Was 404 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,160 this all planned? Why had he showed up at the 405 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,079 apartment at two thirty in the morning. Eric returned to 406 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:09,160 the apartment an hour later and made more demands of Isabella. 407 00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: He asked him me too, to were some lunguries and 408 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:24,519 be sexy. He wants to have sex with me. I 409 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,240 need to survive. 410 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,279 Speaker 1: Right after he came back, after the two had sex 411 00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:38,640 and quotes, Eric and Isabella loaded up his car and 412 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,160 set off to get more cleaning supplies. Being fresh out 413 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240 of jail, Eric had to check in with his probation 414 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:51,119 officer some time later as well. But still the question remained, 415 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:57,079 how did Eric find out about Nicholas and Isabella. Prosecutor 416 00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,200 Saypak had an idea and it all came down to 417 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,119 a silly little love contract. 418 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:06,359 Speaker 7: We were thinking that he gets out of he gets 419 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,720 out of Brown County Jail, his ex girlfriend, Miss Kenseck, 420 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:13,759 picks him up. They go back to her location. Sometime 421 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:16,720 that night when he gets out, he goes back to 422 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,079 the location, and we love the homicide. We know that 423 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,559 because Miss Kenseck testified that she drove in there so 424 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,440 he can pick up his cadillag. We believe that he 425 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,960 went in the house prior to the homicide, saw this 426 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:31,559 note on the wall, took it to his ex girlfriends 427 00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:36,559 Miss Kenseck's home, and the following night or the night afterwards, 428 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000 he borrowed well, he stole her car to go to 429 00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:42,880 the location and bludgeon Nicholas. 430 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,279 Speaker 1: The love note in question was a single sheet of 431 00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:51,200 paper signed by Isabella and Nicholas with their blood. Cute. 432 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:57,279 Remember how I said they entered into the honeymoon phase fast. Yeah, well, 433 00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:01,559 these two were completely in love, like two stupid teenagers. 434 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,880 One night, after a couple of cocktails, they drew up 435 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,440 a little romantic deed. 436 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 7: It was almost like a childish contract that they wrote 437 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,960 together that you know that Nicholas Wilcox will marry Isabella 438 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,839 Tagreeni and be faithful to her at all times. And 439 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,759 then it was signed, and I believe it was also 440 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,400 not signed with blood, but there was. There was fingerprints 441 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:30,319 laced with blood and both their fingerprints were on the note, 442 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:34,440 and her story was that she left that note on 443 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,440 the bedroom wall, and then after the homicide, it miraculously 444 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:43,519 appears with Eric Robinson's property at his other girlfriend's place. 445 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,680 So how it got there we don't know, but we're 446 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,039 assuming that he read this and obviously got upset. And 447 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,839 it's just, you know, it's a knife that cuts both ways. 448 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:54,599 Speaker 5: You know. 449 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 7: It shows us that Eric Robinson obviously read it because 450 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,160 it's with his property and it's supposed to be on 451 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400 the wall and the in the bedroom of the homicide location, 452 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,200 and it wasn't obviously, But at the same time, it 453 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,240 doesn't paint Isabella and in the greatest of greatest of ways, 454 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,720 I guess, because like I said, it's a little childish. 455 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: After Eric returned from dropping off his ex girlfriend's car, 456 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:23,359 he had to dispose of Nicholas's body, which was still 457 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,440 at the house in his work truck. There was a 458 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,440 lot of driving back and forth during the whole crime, 459 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,759 and Isabella was not the most credible witness, being on 460 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:36,440 four bars of xanax and completely traumatized. 461 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 7: The truck is actually backed up to the backyard of 462 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,799 this residence and there's a neighbor, Miss Ginsburg's, that sees 463 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,359 somebody that looks like Eric Robinson backing up the victim's 464 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:54,759 truck to the back door of the homicide location and 465 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,039 putting something heavy inside the truck, that being you know, 466 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,079 the tarp that the body was wrapped in, and then 467 00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:04,240 the truck speeds off. 468 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: Isabella and Eric took off in Nicholas's truck with his 469 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,720 body in the back. They had no idea where they 470 00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:13,440 were going to dump it from there. 471 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,079 Speaker 7: You know, they go to they go to the Everglades, 472 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,839 but there's too many people there. According to Miss Tagerini, 473 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,319 they show up at the dump and they don't. They 474 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,599 don't end up dumping the body of this place because 475 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:28,720 again there's people watching. 476 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: Eric was brazen, judging by his actions that day. Prosecutor 477 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,480 Sapak believes he thought he'd never get caught. 478 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,319 Speaker 7: You know the fact that he's driving around Brower County 479 00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:43,279 with the body in the truck, in the victims truck. 480 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,680 You know, he's going to a dump and there's very 481 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,359 good video at this dump. It's it's beyond hd. You 482 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,039 can hear all the conversation. You know, the worst place 483 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:56,440 to dispose of the body, especially in Brower County, is 484 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,319 a dump because they're surveillance is top notch. 485 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,039 Speaker 1: He's not kidding. The dump footage is clear as day 486 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:05,960 and you can watch it all on YouTube. 487 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,599 Speaker 7: There's a number of stops, and in today's day and age, 488 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,000 you record it everywhere. There's nowhere you can go where 489 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,880 there's no cameras or cell phone technology. You can also 490 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,559 pick you up if you have a cell phone on you. 491 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,800 You're constantly giving the police information. 492 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:26,039 Speaker 1: After an unsuccessful trip to the dump, Eric had to 493 00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:30,199 meet his probation officer, so he took Isabella to the courthouse, 494 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,679 which happened to be down the street from a Publix. Meanwhile, 495 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,400 don't forget, the body is still in the car as 496 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,000 they're driving. While Eric is at the courthouse, Isabella is 497 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,559 left at the publics to wander and wait for him 498 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,519 to return. Of course, like prosecutor say Pak said, her 499 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,000 entire trip to the publics is filmed. Isabella strolls around 500 00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,840 the store, pushing a grocery cart and examining items like 501 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,639 a typical housewife. Just imagine pushing your own cart past 502 00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:08,159 her at that moment, and remember, there's a body in 503 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,880 the parking lot. 504 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 7: In her car. 505 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,159 Speaker 1: Then she's seen using her phone and Eric walks into 506 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:16,880 the store and finds her. 507 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: I was afraid I have to meet him, very sure 508 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:26,199 that I was going to be recite and do whatever 509 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,119 he told me, that I was not going to run away. 510 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,719 I was going to tell anything he told me to do. 511 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:38,679 Speaker 1: The footage is damning. Isabella had multiple opportunities to get help. 512 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,719 She was alone in Public's for over half an hour, 513 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:48,639 and right across the street is the courthouse filled with cops. 514 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,639 Yet she does nothing but embrace Eric and follow his 515 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,639 lead like a good little accomplice. 516 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,079 Speaker 7: And even though she embraces him at at the supermarket, 517 00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,760 that can be explain as you know, someone being in fear. 518 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,079 You have to realize she's from Brazil. All her family 519 00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:07,840 is in Brazil, and the people that she knows here 520 00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:13,119 is really her ex husband, mister Taglerini, Nicholas Wilcox who's 521 00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,280 dead now, and Eric Robinson who murdered him. So she 522 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,440 really has no place to go. So her story starts 523 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,599 making a lot more sense when you put it in context. 524 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:27,079 Speaker 1: You know, Isabella and Eric ended up throwing Nicholas's body 525 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,400 in the dumpster behind the Publics. Ironically, that was the 526 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,480 place with fewer people around. Then they went home and 527 00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:38,880 began their cleanup job. They got rid of all of 528 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,519 the evidence, scrubbing every drop of blood from the scene 529 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,679 and painting the bedroom. But still it wasn't enough. 530 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, the mattress was disposed of at a different dump 531 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,440 sight not too far away from the homicide location. It 532 00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,440 was ripped up and police were able to discover that 533 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:01,719 as well because of Isabelle to and they were able 534 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,639 to match the DNA to that of the scene and 535 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,400 mister Wilcox. When the police arrived on scene, there was 536 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,199 obviously no mattress. The place really reeked of bleach and 537 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,079 they also use what's. 538 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: What's it called fabuloso is the cleaner I would know. 539 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,480 I grew up in little Havana and still have traumatic memories. 540 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 7: It stinks, you have to understand it. Unless you do 541 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,440 a very good job, and you're someone like Dexter, you're 542 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,400 never going to get rid of blood evidence as much 543 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,079 as you want to try. 544 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,639 Speaker 1: After they cleaned everything up, Eric left Isabella alone in 545 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,320 the house and that is when she finally cracked and 546 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,920 called her ex husband, mister Taglierini and told him what happened. 547 00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,920 He then immediately called the cops. 548 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 7: When the police arrived, she's kind of, you know, caught 549 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,920 off guard, and mister Robinson's not in the area. But 550 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,840 when the police were there, they knew what kind of 551 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,960 vehicle he drove, and they saw the vehicle driving past. 552 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:05,519 When they saw the vehicle driving past a homicide the location, 553 00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,239 they did what's called a thulling stop, guns drawn, and 554 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,599 he was taken into custody, and he never gave a statement. 555 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,519 Speaker 1: Eric may be brazen, but he wasn't dumb. He refused 556 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:20,840 to talk the cops. You should too. But Eric was 557 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,679 still arrested for the murder of Nicholas Wilcox and taken 558 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,159 to jail. Isabella was also arrested for her part in 559 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,119 the cover up, but her family would soon bond her 560 00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,639 out and she'd be on an ankle monitor until the trial. 561 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,559 Isabella would appear to be the victim in all of this, 562 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,199 but Eric's defense was going to make sure that the 563 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,760 jury got the full picture, all of the full picture, 564 00:38:46,840 --> 00:39:23,280 including the ugly parts. Isabella Taglierini had been in bed 565 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:26,920 with her new boyfriend and roommate, Nicholas Wilcox, when her 566 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,480 old boyfriend Eric Robinson caught her cheating on him. Eric 567 00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:36,800 had been released early from prison, unfortunately, and came home 568 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,079 to find a love note from Nicholas to Isabella. He 569 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:44,800 became so enraged he bludgeoned Nicholas to death with a 570 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,280 crowbar in his sleep and made Isabella help him cover 571 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,280 up the murder. This sick love triangle had ended in murder, 572 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,400 and now Isabella would have to face her part in 573 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,599 the horrific crime. Eric Robinson didn't say a word to 574 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,920 the police and lawyered up with a strong female litigator 575 00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:10,119 who was determined to make the jury see all the 576 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,840 faults in Isabella's story and character. Her defense was that 577 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,639 Isabella actually murdered Nicholas herself and called Eric to help 578 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,079 her finish the crime. 579 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,639 Speaker 6: What happened in this case is that Isabella Taglierini killed 580 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000 her boyfriend Nicholas Rocos and blamed it. 581 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm her ex boyfriend Eric Robinson. 582 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 6: You will hear that Eric Robinson was arrested by the 583 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,440 Plantation Police Department immediately based on what Isabella Taglieri told them. 584 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 2: The police rushed to judgment. They thought what they. 585 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 6: Had at first was someone being honest and straightforward. 586 00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 5: Turns out, missus Taglierini's stories and statements and details kept changing. 587 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 7: Well, they really try to blame everything on Isabella because 588 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,719 of the inconsistencies in her statement and obviously the number 589 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,480 of times that she could have called the police but 590 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,280 refused to do it. And I believe that they also 591 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,840 try to, you know, blame her immigration status that she wanted. 592 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,079 You know, she wanted a green card and Eric Robinson 593 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,239 was not, you know, not the person that was gonna 594 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,760 give it to her, so, you know, she she kind 595 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,760 of got Eric Robinson involved in this. Their story was 596 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,440 that she committed this heinous act, called Eric Robinson to 597 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:41,000 help her dispose of the body. And that's that's kind 598 00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:44,440 of their story because if you think about it, if 599 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,360 you paint the picture that way, our evidence also fits 600 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,960 that scenario because a lot of the evidence that we 601 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:56,519 had was subsequent to the actual homicide, post homicide, you know, 602 00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,480 the clean up, driving around the body, these are all 603 00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,679 things that have been after the homicide. So if you 604 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,199 blame it on another person and say, listen to that 605 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,480 person called Derk Robinson to help and clean up the 606 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,159 crime scene, all the evidence that we had and we 607 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,679 presented fits that scenario as well. 608 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 6: MS Tivanerini gives five different statements under oath to the police. 609 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 5: Finally, on October fourteenth, they confront her with all of 610 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,960 the inconsistencies because as they start pulling surveillance and doing things, 611 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,599 they start to realize how. 612 00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 2: What she had told them was not necessarily true. For example, 613 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,280 give you money, yeah, but until show that she told. 614 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 6: The police that immediately after leaving the house, that partner 615 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,639 Robinson with the body of mister Wilhof's body in. 616 00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 2: The bed of the Ford F one fifty, And I know, 617 00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:53,719 drawing a lot of. 618 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,519 Speaker 5: Details out to you, and this will all kind of 619 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,800 come together as you start hearing the evidence that they 620 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,400 took that vehicle to the courthouse with the body in it, 621 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,079 and that she waited, had no phone, he had taken 622 00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:10,719 her phone. 623 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 2: What comes out in the next week or. 624 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 6: So, after the lead detective pulls the footage from the 625 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,760 publics right down the street, is that. 626 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: No, they were not in the F one fifty. In fact, 627 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,559 is a Bella tyler i Ani was. 628 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,159 Speaker 6: Actually driving Eric Robinson's catalog to publics. 629 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,639 Speaker 2: And the surveillance shows that miss tiger Ierni has her 630 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,519 phone the entire time and her purse, and that when. 631 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,639 Speaker 5: Mister Robinson comes to meet. 632 00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:50,079 Speaker 6: Up with her at the public so they can leave. 633 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,519 Speaker 2: They're hugging, they're kissing, they're holding hands. 634 00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:59,159 Speaker 1: Despite her bad behavior and the small details changing in 635 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,239 her story, prosecutor Saypak said that what actually mattered about 636 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,960 Isabella's testimony never changed. 637 00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:10,559 Speaker 7: The Rootover testimony never changed. It was always, you know, 638 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:13,880 it was always that that story, the truth of what happened. 639 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,679 Minor things might have changed. She might have said that 640 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,920 they drove a different vehicle when they came to public, 641 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,320 so when we look at the surveillance, you know, it 642 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,159 wasn't the truck. It was a Cadillac and she was 643 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,039 driving when she said that Eric Robinson was driving. So 644 00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,800 small things but that maybe she didn't remember. But you know, 645 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,280 the general aspect of her testimony never changed from day one. 646 00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:39,400 And you know, you have to understand they don't have 647 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,519 to prove anything. The state is the one that's bringing 648 00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:44,440 the charges, so we have to prove up the charges. 649 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,199 Speaker 1: The state had to prove that Eric did this without 650 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,400 a confession or the murder weapon, the crowbar was never found. 651 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,440 Their strategy had to be airtight, which is why they 652 00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,800 decided against first degree murder in Florida. 653 00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 7: You know, we have various types of homicide. You have 654 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,760 first degree premeditated murder, and the law doesn't necessarily fix 655 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,800 the amount of time that must pass between the regination 656 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,159 of the thought and the actually execution of the of 657 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,599 the of the homicide. You know, it can take a 658 00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:19,559 second just by pulling a trigger. Then you have also 659 00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:22,679 a felony murder, which is also a first degree homicide, 660 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,239 which means that somebody is killed within the perpetration of 661 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,360 an enumerated felony such as burglary, such as robbery such 662 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,239 as you know, robbing a bank, things like this, If 663 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,360 somebody dies, that's also first degree murder, okay, And then 664 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,280 you have murder and a second degree and that is Hey, 665 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,320 we don't know what happened inside the apartment, necessarily because 666 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,480 we don't have any witnesses other than Isabella Tagerini, but 667 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:48,280 it is it is murder with a depraved mind, which 668 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,960 means that there was some sort of rage on the 669 00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:56,239 part of Eric Robinson. That seemed to fit our storyline 670 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,840 a lot more because says we didn't have to prove motive, 671 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,559 We didn't have to prove pre meditation. You know, the 672 00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:07,719 sentence for secondgree murder is life. The sentence for first 673 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,719 degree murder is life as well. So it enabled us 674 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,599 to explain the story with what he had and the 675 00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:20,840 evidence that we had, without having the need to prove 676 00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:25,039 an extra element, that being the premeditation part of it. 677 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: Eric's defense lawyer argued that Isabella killed Nicholas herself and 678 00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,880 then had Eric handle the cleanup. But prosecutor Saypak found 679 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,000 that far fetched for many reasons. 680 00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 7: And you have to understand also her physical abilities. You know, 681 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,079 she's a small person. You can see that on you know, 682 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:47,039 when she takes a stand. But to dispose of the body, 683 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,440 you know, wrap them up in a tarp, to even 684 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,800 move a mattress. These are all things that you need 685 00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:55,840 some amount of strength for. And if you look at 686 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,280 Eric Robinson you could see that he's capable of it. 687 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,559 And I don't I don't believe that she'd be able 688 00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:04,159 to commit this murder on her own and dispose of 689 00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:06,079 the body and so forth. 690 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: But there were many weird things that Isabella did that 691 00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:14,599 really trashed her credibility. For one, she tried to go 692 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:20,760 on the Doctor Phil show to talk about the murder. Yeah, yeah, 693 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:26,000 here's Eric's defense lawyer discussing this with the judge during 694 00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:26,480 the trial. 695 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 6: At sometimes in the past, I believe a couple of 696 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:32,639 years is Tier reached. 697 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,039 Speaker 2: Out to the Doctor Phil show to be a part 698 00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:41,039 of the show, to me to ask me if we 699 00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:42,920 wanted to be involved, which. 700 00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:48,159 Speaker 1: Pending it wasn't before the incidents. 701 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,519 Speaker 8: Okay, obviously I could find but that's how I know 702 00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:54,199 doubt about it. 703 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 2: So I did a miss and deposition about it. For 704 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:02,960 answer about why she wanted to run the Doctor Phil 705 00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:05,960 show was because she wanted to get some type of therapy, 706 00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:09,159 because she knew that part of being on the show 707 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,320 that maybe she would be able to get therapy. 708 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what can I say? I'm kind of with 709 00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:18,159 Eric's defense lawyer on this one therapy from Doctor Phil. 710 00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:23,000 This is America. There are thousands of hotlines in every 711 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,760 state that offer free trauma counseling and assistance for those 712 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,880 in need of it. But I guess some people really 713 00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:35,400 like trashy daytime television. Here's the judge's response, what is 714 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,599 the relevance of that? I mean, let me put this way, 715 00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:42,039 if you ask her about it, then. 716 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: The net and. 717 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 7: It opens up the door to the why. 718 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 2: I think it's totally irrelevant. But if I do allow 719 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,920 you to ask it, that means the state gets to ask, you. 720 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 7: Know, why did you do it? 721 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,199 Speaker 2: Because obviously you're bringing it out because you think that 722 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,119 there's some sort of negative connotation of that. Well, I 723 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,679 think it's fair. 724 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 6: To say that for somebody who was so traumatized by 725 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,280 an incident, I think it's. 726 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,119 Speaker 2: Just well, there are different. 727 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 7: Conclusions you could make. 728 00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 4: One you could say that it's a bizarre act and 729 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,280 maybe she's seeking some type of publicity. 730 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,039 Speaker 2: The other another argument could be that. 731 00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 7: She was suffering and needed free therapy. 732 00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:41,599 Speaker 1: Still, Isabella decided to testify against Eric because well, just 733 00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:46,480 because she was promised nothing, and that says something about 734 00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:50,679 her character and perhaps negates this weird doctor phil stuff. 735 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,559 Speaker 7: So prior to her testimony, we never promised her anything, 736 00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:56,440 and that's you know the reason for that is so 737 00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:59,440 we can we can ask her understand and true, have 738 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,800 you been off for anything? He played open to judge. 739 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,559 You don't know what you're gonna get, and here are 740 00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:09,039 the apostible penalties. And you're here testifying because you know 741 00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,239 you want to and itself your own. 742 00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: Free will, and let's show what you did the prosecution's 743 00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:20,199 whole case rested on Isabella's story. That was all they had, 744 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,119 along with the video footage, which actually made her look 745 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,480 worse and helped the defense. Despite all this, the jury 746 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:34,639 came back in favor of Isabella. They believed her. You know, 747 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,239 I mean, for some reason, there's a propaganda campaign that 748 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,920 says that women aren't believed when they say something, and 749 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,039 I'm not sure what the fuck these people are talking about. 750 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,679 Modern day Western culture bends over backwards to believe women, 751 00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:56,400 whether they lie or not. But regardless, Eric wouldn't be 752 00:50:56,519 --> 00:51:02,239 so lucky. They would be locked away for life. Prosecutor 753 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,239 say Pak and his team were happy with this verdict, 754 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,280 but the question remained, why did Eric think he would 755 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,079 get away with this? As say Pac said, we leave 756 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:17,400 a digital footprint everywhere we go today. Everybody knows this 757 00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:19,360 isn't that right, Siri. 758 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 7: I really think that he thought he could control Isabella. 759 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,599 I think that he was such a dominering personality in 760 00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:29,199 that relationship that there was no doubt in his mind 761 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,280 that she would ever flip on him. You have to 762 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,960 realize that without Isabella's testimony, you know, from the beginning, 763 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,800 it'd be very hard for the police to go in 764 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,639 the right places to look for, that being the dump, 765 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,840 you know, that being the various locations that she told 766 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,519 us about. Eventually, I believe they might be able to 767 00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:52,519 get there through a cell phone technology, but you know, 768 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,960 without her immediate intervention and her ability to tell the 769 00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:01,960 story and exactly where they went, that enabled the police 770 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,320 to go to these locations and get the surveillance footage, 771 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,320 which might have been deleted by the time they would 772 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:08,920 have gotten there. 773 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,639 Speaker 1: The true hero of this story is Isabella's ex husband, 774 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,559 because without his nine one one call, who knows how 775 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:22,079 long it would have been before anyone noticed Nicholas Willcox 776 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,800 was gone. Eric sent out text messages from his cell 777 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,960 phone to friends and family trying to explain his absence, 778 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,519 and he worked for himself with Isabella. All of Nicholas's 779 00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,159 family was in New York, except for his father, who 780 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:42,320 attended trial every day. In a very real sense, Eric 781 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,559 and Isabella could have gotten away with this if that 782 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,480 nine one one call had never been placed, but they didn't, 783 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,280 and now Eric Robinson will spend the rest of his 784 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,320 life behind bars until he dies. 785 00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:03,679 Speaker 7: Good good, there's no parole in Florida. When you go 786 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,360 away when you're sentenced to life in Florida, the only 787 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,039 way that you're getting out is in a casket. Murder 788 00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:15,159 is crazy. Murder is crazy, and murder and murders do 789 00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,280 a lot of a lot of a lot of things 790 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,280 that you don't make sense, and that's why they get 791 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,719 caught sometimes. 792 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,559 Speaker 1: Eric Robinson was a controlling man who thought he could 793 00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,840 get away with murder. After all, every time he was 794 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,119 put in jail for hurting Isabella, she refused to press 795 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,159 charges and he'd be released again. It's not shocking that 796 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,119 this relationship ended in homicide. This is a recognizable pattern 797 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,360 that often ends in bad things, including homicide. It was 798 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,079 volatile and crazy from the start. As for Nicholas Wilcox, 799 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,360 you just got caught up in a love triangle. Isabella 800 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,000 was an attractive, exotic woman and I'm sure she had 801 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,480 a damsel in distressed type mentality that appealed to him. 802 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,519 Maybe if that stupid love contract hadn't been posted on 803 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:28,679 the wall, this would have ever happened. She could have 804 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,960 kept lying, gotten away with the affair. It really doesn't matter, though, 805 00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,719 because Eric Robinson found out and he lost it and 806 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,519 decided to take matters into his own hands. What is 807 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:46,119 the moral of this story, ladies and gentlemen, Well, there's 808 00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,800 a few. The first one is that Three's Company was 809 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,400 a great show in the eighties, but it doesn't work 810 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:56,760 in real life. Despite what these fucking TikTok millennials will 811 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,480 try to sell to you, love is messy and there's 812 00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:05,519 no room for a cuckchair. Look at the end of 813 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:07,599 the day, what happened here is that the world is 814 00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:11,800 full of dangerous, scary, crazy people. Eric Robinson was one 815 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,119 of them, and he proved it that night when he 816 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,360 murdered Nicholas Wilcox for sleeping with his girlfriend. There's probably 817 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,960 another lesson here somewhere in this one. It might have 818 00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:27,079 to do with the fact that we're constantly being monitored, 819 00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,800 even if we're not committing a crime, even if we're 820 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,159 not Eric Robinson, even if we're just good, tax paying 821 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,719 civilians trying to do the right thing, We're still being 822 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,559 monitored every second of every day by Big Brother, because 823 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:55,239 we value our safety above our freedom. Unfortunately, don't believe me, Hey, 824 00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:27,400 sirih stay safe, sassholes. Well that's gonna do it for 825 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,079 another one. Go check out our Summer of sword and 826 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,280 scale hats at swordscale dot com we got a new 827 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,400 one with the don't talk to cops design. 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