1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome back to the Agatha 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:10,439 All Along reviews. I and the clown Prints of Crowns 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,759 dress now and I'm joined by the door Taylor Field 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,480 the door. Yes, Leze tonight we are talking about episode five. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,839 As you can hear, it's just us two kirkling in 6 00:00:19,839 --> 00:00:22,399 and out all the time. He's left somewhere late day, 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,320 so we'll get us sauce another day. Here's I think 8 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:27,160 he's here. Last week great, I can never know me? 9 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:29,320 Was it? Oh yeah, it was just suing me. So 10 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:30,960 that's two weeks in a row. He probably don't even 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,079 watch it. He's probably lost. But yeah, so as Jim 12 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:37,320 and we're here to talk about Agatha All Along episode five. 13 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,039 Uh so yeah we are now Now we're at the 14 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:42,240 halfway point pretty much. It's a weird thing like over 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,799 halfway because is nine. But whatever, I digress. We are 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,719 there if you want on the feeds, We've got lots 17 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:51,920 of stuff going on. We're still reviewing Penguin right now. God, 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,399 what's happening next? We got a lot of stuff like 19 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:56,960 Hawween retros are coming out. We're gonna be doing our 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,240 after nine watch Along, which if you join Patreon, you 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,920 can join on. We're gonna be watching Pooh, Blood and 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,319 Honey two with the patrons, so that'll be a good time. 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Venom is coming up, so lots of good stuff on 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,159 the feeds. But most importantly before we get in this 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,599 episode November two, that is our twenty four hour extra 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,120 live stream. If you are new to the feeds, we're 27 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:18,760 gonna be talking about this the whole month because it 28 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:20,239 is towards a good cause. But this is our eight 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,879 anh or eighth annual one. We stay up for twenty 30 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,280 four hours and we play games, do events to raise 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,000 money for Children's Hospital. And we've, like I said, done 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,439 this eight years in a row. We're announcing events right now. 33 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:35,959 There's incentives, like, you know, we might do some creed karaoke. 34 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:38,359 If we hit one thousand bucks, I'll shave my long 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,079 hair off. There's gonna be multiple tiers for Taylor's beard. 36 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:42,719 Do you want to see him rock the hull Cogan. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,640 I'm gonna make a collage of all the different looks 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,680 we've talked about. You you could just be clean shaven, 39 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:49,280 but we can also make them rock the Hall Cogan, 40 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:51,719 the mun Chops, the little Soul Patch, action, so you're 41 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:54,840 gonna want to you're gonna wanna do that, and yeah, 42 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:56,599 lots of good stuff's when you happen. I've been just 43 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:59,680 talking and confirming people for the trivia, so that's lots 44 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:02,000 of fun. It's always a good time. And I guess 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,599 I should say that it's gonna be your team versus 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,959 my team again because we're tied one apiece, so this 47 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,520 is the tiebreaker and then we won't host. We'll have 48 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:13,159 new team captains next year. But it was two years 49 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,120 ago your team one, and then last year my team won, 50 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,080 so it's time to sound to break two two years. 51 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Ago was that when the Star Wars trivia was. 52 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: Well, last two years have been Katie each time. 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I 90 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:03,400 think it was like Darkest Hour or Slash something something. 91 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,080 I don't know. 92 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, this episode was I didn't even check how many 93 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,360 minutes it was, but it was like here and there 94 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:15,680 and then done super fricking fast. 95 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's twenty five minutes. That's not counting credits. Yeah, 96 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:21,720 oh my gosh. 97 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:27,439 Speaker 3: That includes a trial ladies and gentlemen. So they're getting 98 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,480 really really good at just whizzen through these trials and 99 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:29,959 acing it. 100 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 101 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:35,879 Speaker 3: So I don't really You get a revelation and that's 102 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:39,759 pretty much it, and I I mean, I don't know 103 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,839 if everyone is going to necessarily understand that revelation. I 104 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:44,639 don't think the GA is really going to connect the 105 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,240 dots necessarily, but I think if you are imbersed in 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,000 the mcu and you know what's going on. I think 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,000 you'll absolutely be able to piece it together. Okay, who, what, when? 108 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,920 Where is going on right now with this revelation. 109 00:04:58,079 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: So that's that. 110 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: But as for the rest of it, I just feel like, yeah, 111 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,519 there was really wasn't much going on in this episode 112 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,439 that was really pulling me in a couple of spooky moments, 113 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:10,480 but the spooky moments were pretty much just shafted to 114 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,839 the side and favor of I guess a little bit 115 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:15,439 more of like plot development. 116 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: But it's a shame. 117 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,399 Speaker 3: I would have liked a little bit more of like 118 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:21,319 the witchiness and like the demonicness. I thought there was 119 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:23,360 definitely a very cool theme that they could have played 120 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,079 off of a little bit more here, but it just 121 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:27,279 seemed like it was over and done very very quickly. 122 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:29,519 It would have been nice if they slowed and pumped 123 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,639 the brakes a little bit for this episode, but yeah, 124 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:33,279 it was just it was too quick. There was a 125 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:36,319 lot thrown in here for such a short period of 126 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:39,800 time with this episode. Just when you take the trial, 127 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,240 then you take what happens at the end, and then 128 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,199 what happens at the beginning. That's three major things that 129 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:49,199 just go way too quickly in this episode, and I 130 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:51,000 just it leaves me with more questions of getting to 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,279 the end. 132 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: So all in all. 133 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,079 Speaker 3: Spoilers aside, it just I did not like it that much, 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,319 and it makes me nervous because I liked some of 135 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,279 the previous episodes and I just get concerned that maybe 136 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:06,079 we're kind of going on a downward trend now, and 137 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,519 I hope we're not. I hope that the show can 138 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,040 kind of pick back up, but we'll see. 139 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: That's funny. I feel like we can continue to be 140 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 on the opposite ends because I don't It feels weird 141 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,839 to say this is like the best episode because I, yeah, 142 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,920 I know, I agree with you that it's not like 143 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:25,560 perfect I do. There is some pacing stuff. It goes 144 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:29,560 very quick, but I disagree that we I don't know 145 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:32,120 there's more than one development, I would say, and how 146 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,839 that development happened wasn't just like to me, A reveal 147 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:36,519 is revealed and then like all this other shit was 148 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,920 going down around it. Again, it is all very quick. 149 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,120 But I would say this is probably my favorite trial 150 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,000 because it had the least There was some comedy in there, 151 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 but had the least amount, which I liked again all 152 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,600 this stuff. I would agree that it is too fast, 153 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,560 but and that's where I disagree, so they sacrifice some 154 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,240 of the spooky stuff. I feel like in the last 155 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,240 two trousers was no spooky stuff. Really, It's like okay 156 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,600 even then, like the spooky stuff in the Real Housewives 157 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,360 episode that was a couple hallucinations which were a minute 158 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:07,439 to two minutes. And I don't think anything was really 159 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,519 spooky last week in my opinion, like what was like 160 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:12,279 like other than I had to watch a musical number. 161 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:14,439 I don't think there was anything that I found spooky. 162 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,759 So there was like multiple things in here. I think 163 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,000 it leaves multiple of our characters in a very interesting 164 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:25,759 gray area, which that's what I like in a show. 165 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,079 And I'll even say even Agatha when we talk about Loki, right, 166 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,920 and when we do these shows based on villains, we 167 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,879 don't want it to just be completely well, they're good. 168 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,000 You want to see a journey. But even in the 169 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 first season Loki, he was always doing stuff for like, oh, 170 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:41,720 he hasn't made that turn. I'm sure Agatha will at 171 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:44,399 some point, but this episode was showing like, eh, like 172 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:48,920 there's still some maybe those villain isms in there, there's 173 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,439 there's a development in the middle. I was very surprised 174 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:53,600 that that happened. I'm just wondering if they're gonna stick 175 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,720 to it or not. So no, I think the first 176 00:07:56,759 --> 00:07:59,279 half is pretty much what you expect, some adventure on 177 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:02,240 the road, the trial, and then too on. But even 178 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:05,000 the trial I enjoyed. I like the vibe. But the 179 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,120 back half I enjoyed the most with some of the 180 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,160 developments what they were doing with the characters, because I 181 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:13,399 found there's one in particular, I'm like, Okay, I don't 182 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,600 know what is going on with a bunch of these 183 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,360 characters in a good way. I don't know who's lying, 184 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,879 I don't know who's telling the truth. So I quite 185 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,879 like this episode. So I guess we'll be on opposite 186 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,800 side of the Riches road potentially, so we will talk 187 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:32,399 about that after this first ad break and we are back. 188 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,440 So I don't know. So I don't know where to 189 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:38,759 start here because I feel like there's like multiple I 190 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:41,519 feel like maybe we'll leave like the ending ending in case, 191 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,440 because what we're gonna do, We're gonna talk in full spoilers, 192 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,840 Kirkland's not here, and I'm sure Kirkland would. I imagine 193 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:48,600 we'd figure out, but we'll leave that to the end. 194 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:50,720 I was surprised, and now I got to bring them up. 195 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:53,320 Fuck how because she was my favorite of a bunch. 196 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Who is the witch that died this episode? 197 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,759 Speaker 2: You have to look at her name, but I love that. 198 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: So I was very surprised by that. Now I don't 199 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,120 think the trial made much sense, but I like the 200 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:10,200 idea of the trial of Alice. Alice, Okay, I like 201 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:13,720 the idea of these. I don't think we thought her 202 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:16,600 trial would be next Agatha, so I thought that was good. 203 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,039 It kind of took me first to be like, Okay, 204 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,320 that's happening right now. We knew like it made sense 205 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,000 with it being the Ouiji board because there's lots of 206 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:24,559 ghosts in her past and she's murdered some people. But 207 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,440 I love the idea of her mum trying to take 208 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,000 her soul. That's very much a callback to in the comics. 209 00:09:30,039 --> 00:09:31,559 For a lot of her time, Agatha is like a 210 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,120 ghost and she's like, you know, that's how she talks 211 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,600 to one and stuff. So that's kind of a flashback 212 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:39,840 to that. But I don't know on just that portion, 213 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Like what was the trial per se because I guess 214 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,000 if it was to punish Agatha, and I guess you 215 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,480 could say, oh, he're getting shot with Alice's powers, was 216 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,440 punishing her. But clearly that doesn't punish Agatha because she 217 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:56,919 just absorbs power. So that's something I was if Yon, 218 00:09:57,039 --> 00:09:58,559 what did you take from the actual trial? 219 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,799 Speaker 2: I have no no idea. 220 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: It was very different from the previous ones, where like 221 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,480 they had to test their skills with creating a potion 222 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:09,080 because they're all poison, and then one before that where 223 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,759 they had to sing and like break the curse. This 224 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:16,039 one was, yeah, just this, this ghost, Agatha's mom appears 225 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,919 and it just revealed that, Okay, ghosts sometimes linger here 226 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,120 in this kind of state, and now this, so this 227 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,279 goes just a part of the. 228 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: Trial, and then it's not really a trial because. 229 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,879 Speaker 1: It's not that we know of yet, right. I think 230 00:10:30,919 --> 00:10:33,200 they're gonna reveal some I don't think this is just now. 231 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,799 Don't get me wrong, it could be. I'm hoping it's 232 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,320 not just bad lazy writing. I think they will reveal 233 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:44,240 something because so Agatha does take so Agatha's mom takes 234 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:46,720 over her body, and then al shoots are trying to 235 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:49,639 save her. But then Agatha is absorbing the power, which 236 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,720 again she said she couldn't control, but like, it's kind 237 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,799 of tough because I think Haun acted it in a 238 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,919 good way where it looks like she's overwhelmed. At the 239 00:10:57,919 --> 00:10:59,320 same time, it doesn't look like she's like. 240 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,759 Speaker 2: She was enjoying it. 241 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly right. So it's like you could just 242 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,559 be like a junkie getting a hit again and like, 243 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,720 oh my god. But it's still just like there was 244 00:11:08,879 --> 00:11:13,399 enough facial reactions and the way that Agatha acted at 245 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:15,720 the end was like, I don't really know, and that's 246 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,720 what I like. I don't really know she did mean 247 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:19,759 to do it or not. You know, I'm gonna say 248 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:21,919 she didn't because I think they're avengely gonna turn her. 249 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,759 But I thought that was a good job. And I 250 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,039 was surprised that they killed off Alice. Maybe a little bum, 251 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:29,600 but she's the one I liked the most, so maybe 252 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:31,840 that's why I hurt. But what did you take away 253 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:35,600 from So, yeah, did you take it as she could control? 254 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:37,960 Wanted to? Like, what was the whole power sucking situation 255 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:41,120 for you? And then what do you think about losing Alice? Now? 256 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: I liked Alice and I think she she seemed to 257 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:48,600 be really kind of like taking and embracing her character here, 258 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,120 and I really liked her after she kind of conquered 259 00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:54,360 her family curse there too in the previous trial. So 260 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,600 her passing away now just tells me, Okay, none of 261 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,120 these other witches are safe after it, like miss Hart 262 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,360 and we went through that whole ordeal. I thought, okay, yeah, 263 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:04,559 she was the expendable one. But now that we lost Alice, yeah, 264 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,840 that's that's something else. And it just makes me think, okay, uh, 265 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,840 what Agatha was alluding to before when they're asking like 266 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:14,000 how many of the witches survived last time you came, 267 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,039 And it was like, okay, well maybe that might be 268 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,039 the same thing here where she's the only like she 269 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:21,120 comes out one of the only ones here or something 270 00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:23,399 like that. I don't know, it's just it's it's it's 271 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,320 tricky to say. Obviously, we get a bit of a 272 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,639 dilemma at the end there with a certain character, but 273 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,039 we'll get to that later. I think with with uh, God, 274 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,360 I already forgot her fucking name Alice. 275 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: With Alice dying, Uh, she didn't. 276 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: She didn't serve much to this this story aside from 277 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,240 helping Agatha break free from her mom, And even then 278 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,519 I just thought that, yeah, the the mom trying to 279 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,440 take her over to punish her wasn't working for me. 280 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,639 Did I don't have that connection with the comics, so 281 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,279 I don't have that kind of I don't the pre 282 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:02,399 existing knowledge to kind of like think like, oh, yeah, 283 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:03,879 well this is in line with this, so this is 284 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:06,559 actually like it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeada, But it 285 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,559 just didn't work for me in this in this narrative. 286 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,519 But I absolutely think that she was just sucking that up. 287 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,440 She's been power dry for a while and so when 288 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,519 the power hit her and she was absorbing it, she's 289 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,799 like just taking it in full stride. 290 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: First of all, be careful that I feel like that 291 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,039 sentenced together might just get us demonnetized. But second of all, 292 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,720 I was gonna say, but do you think she intentionally 293 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:34,480 meant to Like, if Agatha knew that would kill her, 294 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,600 would she intentionally mean to do that? 295 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean it depends because we get a little bit 296 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,480 of some weird revelation on how she's acting at the 297 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:53,440 end with teen, so it's, yeah, it's tricky. I feel 298 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,440 like after this episode, I definitely do not trust her. 299 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,559 Maybe I did a little bit before, but now I 300 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,240 feel like she definitely has some ulterior motives. 301 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure, cause, like I said, I just 302 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:10,720 got envisioned by the end of the show that she 303 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,759 would be good. And if she's just like if she 304 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:16,919 just killed Alice Willy Nilly, then it's like, well, that's 305 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:18,720 like a kind of hard turn to make because it's like, 306 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:21,320 we're not gonna be too far away from the finale, right, 307 00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:25,080 Like granted, when you watch the Loki Show, it's been 308 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,120 mere days since he did the Battle of New York 309 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,399 when you watch that one, because it's that Loki timeline, 310 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,240 so he did help massacre probably hundreds of people. But 311 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,320 you know, I guess, because we love Tom Hidlson, it's like, okay, 312 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,399 it's all right. So I guess in the same context 313 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:39,039 for her, I guess I should be all right with it. 314 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,240 But that's just so different because it was like, it 315 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,879 doesn't happen in the show, right, happens in a previous 316 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,799 you know, you know, movie or project. So yeah, I 317 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,080 was unsure because we get that we get out of there. 318 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,679 I guess before I transition more into them and to 319 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 did you how did you feel about the Salem's lot. 320 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,919 They're uh closing in on them. We got to see 321 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,639 one turn of be'es. We got to see the which 322 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,480 is a take a flight and you know, go flying 323 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:03,960 a little bit. 324 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: And we got to know a little bit of their 325 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:11,000 backstory too, where Agatha had a coven and she killed 326 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,559 her sisters and then she didn't kill the children, and 327 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,600 so that's basically them coming to get revenge towards. 328 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Her, which is interesting. I think it was. It was 329 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:20,679 very fitting. 330 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: You know, they left the door open for the something 331 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,320 spelled so they were able to sneak in there. 332 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I like them. 333 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,759 Speaker 3: I think they're very, very freaky, and I think every 334 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,759 time they're on Scream it definitely freaks me out. So 335 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,399 I'm excited to see more of them than they've kind 336 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,279 of caught up to them. 337 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: So I like it. 338 00:15:36,559 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the girls weren't digging that little too a little 339 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,120 too scary me for them. But yeah, I was like 340 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:42,960 good to get that confirmed because I just thought it 341 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,279 was the original sister she had killed back in the day, 342 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,720 but I guess not, it's the daughters. But again, to me, 343 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:51,840 that just shows like she even says like, oh, you know, 344 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,720 mercy is a joke or something like that shows even 345 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:57,600 back then she gave some characters like a chance to live. 346 00:15:57,879 --> 00:16:00,679 So that's where it's like, it's interesting. I'm just waiting 347 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 for the whole misunderstood and I forget. We forgot to 348 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,919 mention too that for some reason she was getting blasted 349 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:13,039 and that was again the magic blasts at her by Alice. 350 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,960 And then when Nicholas scratch, which we were assuming, I 351 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,200 think we call that confirmed night right because the ghost 352 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,559 says like mom or whatever, like why are you doing this? 353 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 I don't know why. That kind of broke the spell, 354 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:25,919 but we did get her son talking to her, so 355 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,159 I still think they're gonna reveal. A lot of these 356 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,320 things are just like happenstance, like Okay, this happened and 357 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,240 it looks really bad, but maybe it's not as bad 358 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 as it actually is. But that's where with the ending 359 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,279 where she gets out of there and uh and showed 360 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:42,159 to Aubrey Plaza. In this whole episode, she has lots 361 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,799 of stuff where she's laughed more than flying again. She's 362 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:48,480 much like last week where all these characters are in 363 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:53,279 massive peril and she's just kind of having a good time. 364 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,279 It is interesting that when the Luigi board went to death, 365 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:01,399 she gave like a big laugh, So I feel like 366 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,279 that's probably foreshadowing some things along the way. And she's 367 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:08,319 an interesting character too, because she was willing to slit 368 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:13,519 Agasa's Eggiso's Agatha's throat, but she also didn't want her 369 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:16,279 mom to have her, and then she was also defending 370 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,559 her at the being the episode about her killing the 371 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:20,359 coven like, oh well, they were going after her, so 372 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,839 again I think, and that to me is in a 373 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,640 bad way, just seems like the character is a little 374 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:28,279 layered or flawed because they have some sort of attraction 375 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,359 Agatha where maybe they maybe think she should die or 376 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,319 be taken out, but because they you know, probably love 377 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,799 Agatha kind of a bit harder than you would think. 378 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:39,640 But yeah, what do you think about Aubrey plaz in 379 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,279 this episode so far? What do you feel about this 380 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:44,039 character an episode? I guess it's three, But in the 381 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,079 pilot she wasn't around too much, right. 382 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed her kind of being more of a 383 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,079 witch in this, like particularly just the brief scene of 384 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,559 them like dropping on their brooms and she just does 385 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:56,400 this stellar witch laugh. 386 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:00,319 Speaker 2: Holy fuck, that was top tier ten ten Witch laugh, 387 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:01,039 my god. 388 00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I'm trying to understand her motives 389 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,279 because obviously we know she had a very passionate relationship 390 00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:12,599 with Agatha at one point, but she's the only one 391 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:15,880 who really knows Agatha's history too. She immediately knew that 392 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,279 this was Agatha's trial, and there's a few other things 393 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:23,119 that she knows that are related with Agatha too, So it'll. 394 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,039 Speaker 2: Just be interesting to see, like what is her end 395 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:25,599 goal here. 396 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: Obviously she wants to kill her when she gets her 397 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,000 powers back, but I feel like that's going to change, 398 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:35,759 that'll be very very different grounds when the time comes, 399 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,759 and then what happens when we get to her trial. 400 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,960 So I think that there's there's a little bit more 401 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:43,319 surrounding this. Of course, we didn't get a lot of 402 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,480 revelation in this episode. She was just kind of insane 403 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,480 and just kind of pointing out things to us as 404 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,279 the viewer, like, oh, yeah, this is her trial, YadA, 405 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:50,279 yeada YadA, here's. 406 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: A witch laugh. That's pretty much it. 407 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,559 Speaker 3: But you're right with her being very defensive over Agatha 408 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,079 not wanting the mom to take her. 409 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:01,599 Speaker 2: Again. Maybe that is just because hey, she's mine. 410 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: And I need to fight her at the end, but 411 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,519 I don't think that's gonna happen. 412 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: Something else will happen. But I digress. 413 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's gonna be there. There's gonna be 414 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:11,680 more to it, and I wonder if she will end 415 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,119 up being like the main villain per se, like who 416 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,519 Agatha has to fight in the end aufus it could be. 417 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:20,319 I don't think it's who we have right now, even 418 00:19:20,319 --> 00:19:21,680 though I think right now it's like a really good 419 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:24,319 red Herring. I thought the episode ended well, but so 420 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,799 we get into that point where they get out of 421 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:30,160 that room Alice is dead, you have teen confronting her, 422 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:32,319 and there's two sections and so on to I guess 423 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,400 kind of three, but two sections where when he confronted her, 424 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,319 she's that's where it's like she didn't I thought she 425 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,319 was gonna do the whole spiel of oh I lost 426 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:43,400 control of it, da da, But she just kind of 427 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,599 had like this evil smile going on, and he's like, oh, 428 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,079 I'm not in here to hurt people, and she just goes. 429 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,680 I think she says like too bad, Like she's pretty 430 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,480 much just saying like people are gonna die again. I 431 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,759 don't know is this just Agatha saving face as the 432 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,920 known evil, which to be, yeah, I killed her and 433 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,920 that was my plan. Or is she still some like 434 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:05,440 you know, bad guy ISM's going on. It's like we're 435 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,640 in that middle point of the character where I don't 436 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,640 know which way they're gonna go again. I still think 437 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,759 they will find a way to her make some speech 438 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,720 that she didn't mean to do this to Alice, because 439 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:17,799 she did look shocked when it happened, right, but she was. 440 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,240 She was And again credit to Catherine halland who this 441 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:23,039 episode and even in WandaVision. I don't think she's ever 442 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:26,640 been scary, but I think in that moment when it 443 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,920 was like a either there was no score or a 444 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,440 very quiet score, and it's just her like her head 445 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,599 coming up in the smile. Like I was scared of 446 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,839 Agatha in that moment. I didn't think I would be 447 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:37,880 because I'm like, oh yeah, good time, Catherine Hahn, but 448 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,640 she came off very intimidating. And also because if she 449 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,480 just killed someone, that helps towards it. But that was 450 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:46,839 all in Hans's performance there and then that's when she 451 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,680 again if you don't want any spoils, but I think 452 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,519 everyone would know now because she says, you know, I 453 00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:55,559 can't remember what he says to set her up, something 454 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:58,960 about like not wanting to hurt people or and I 455 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,599 can't remember. She says pretty much is just omitting that, 456 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:05,279 like like I don't want to hurt people, but I 457 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,359 have or will hurt people, like there's some sort of 458 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,920 word for him and eke if I have, I don't 459 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,400 have the exact words. But then she leans over and says, like, 460 00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:15,599 just like your mother. So this is what I'm wondering. 461 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:20,880 Do you think there was something along with this new information, 462 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,359 something from episode one to five that she figured it out? 463 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,799 Do you think she's always known? And a step further, 464 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,920 do you think she put like the sidual on him, 465 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,279 Like what did you think after this reveal? Because I 466 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,160 thought this reveal of her knowing the mom would maybe 467 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,279 be something we'd even see on screen or even that 468 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:38,720 Sigul comes off and then she gets it. But this 469 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,279 was something for us. This is why it's great to 470 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:43,680 have a villain as like the main character, kind of 471 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:48,240 unreliable narrator. However, she found out about it unless she 472 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,319 just looked at him and went, oh, you look like 473 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,720 you know Wanda, Like that'd be dumb, like I don't 474 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,480 want that. But like if it's like they didn't show 475 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,519 us how she figured it out, right, So what did 476 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,799 you take from this scene about like when when did 477 00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:03,920 she know how she knows she the situal user? Like 478 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,359 what's going on here? Ah? 479 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I I'm he just he turns on a 480 00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:15,480 dime here and starts like taking them all down, And. 481 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:18,319 Speaker 1: Yes, that was surprising too, that was just Agatha. He 482 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,519 like used them to throw Agatha in like the quicksand 483 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:22,440 so it's like, okay, yeah. 484 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:25,279 Speaker 2: Whatever remark because she'd take his powers right, yes. 485 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,079 Speaker 1: Which I thought, okay, whatever, But then when he also 486 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:28,960 threw them in the quicksand did not see that coming. 487 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see that coming either. Uh. 488 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: I still just I have no idea what's going on 489 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,920 with the sigil here and what's in any of that stuff. 490 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,839 So when it comes to her, uh yeah, I. 491 00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: Just I really don't know. 492 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:49,519 Speaker 1: Because so do you think she always knew who his 493 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:51,559 mother was or do you think she figured out that 494 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,599 during the series but they just didn't show us. 495 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: I would imagine that she probably figured it out. I 496 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,319 mean if us as the viewer can figure it out, 497 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,519 And like I'm assuming she could. I just to fall 498 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,759 to the fact that an em goes over his lips, 499 00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:09,359 and it's like, that's maxim Off, like Wanda maxim Off 500 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720 or whatever. So I just think that it's just, yeah, 501 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:14,799 just to me, that makes sense, and she must have 502 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,319 noticed that too, and I think she's again, she's a 503 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,920 lot smarter than she lets on. So when this person 504 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,680 shows up and you can't really see what they're. 505 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:25,759 Speaker 2: Saying because they got a sigil on them. 506 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,799 Speaker 3: And there's other mysterious things going on with them too, 507 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,440 I just think that, yeah, she would have clued in 508 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,839 and she would have figured it out, and there was 509 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,319 a reason that she was keeping him. But that's where 510 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:37,279 I kind of thought, like, is she still possessed or 511 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,359 is she just genuinely being evil here, because as soon 512 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,400 as he starts invoking his powers, she snaps up and 513 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,279 it's like teen, like. 514 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:43,759 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 515 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: What's going on? 516 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,319 Speaker 2: What's going on? I don't know if she was playing 517 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,640 like the like a like woe. 518 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: Is Me kind of a role or something like that. 519 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:54,200 It just felt very weird and she still was doing 520 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,720 it even though you could see that her other witch 521 00:23:55,759 --> 00:24:00,359 companions were also being possessed by him. So yeah, I 522 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,359 don't know. I just I feel like I'm gonna I 523 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,079 need the next episode to kind of fill in the 524 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,000 gaps a little bit more here because I'm this episode 525 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960 being so short. The ending just felt really really rushed. 526 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: To me and expedited, and I didn't have time to 527 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,519 really keep up with it. 528 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any reason why Rio didn't get quicksand. 529 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: Hmmm, you're right, I forgot about that. 530 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: I mean maybe she just bounced really really quickly and 531 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,400 got out of there, So. 532 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,039 Speaker 2: You think, good point, I missed that. 533 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that. Do you think it's bounced? 534 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,880 Do you think it's intentional, because like maybe they pick 535 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,160 up next week right away and she walks up like 536 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,480 what are you doing? They have a conversation, But I 537 00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:41,960 feel like it's somewhat intentional. I don't know if there worked, 538 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,839 because like remember last week she did say to Egg, 539 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,079 I feet like all the boys and yours, so it 540 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,559 almost made it like I tried to theorize. I'm like, okay, 541 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,200 is she just saying that in the sense of just 542 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,440 like she's putting her thoughts of her son into this boy, 543 00:24:55,519 --> 00:25:00,359 and it's like a kind of a what is the word. 544 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,400 I'm trying to think. Ah, I can't think about it. 545 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,079 But it's kind of like an ado adoptable son where 546 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:08,759 they have a surrogate a surrogate son where okay, she 547 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:11,880 didn't have a son, maybe sacrifice them whatever. And because 548 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,039 there's this young boy that'd maybe be around his age, 549 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,720 she's kind of perjecting that onto him. Or is it 550 00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:19,880 literally last week when she said it's not your kid, 551 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,880 it's not your boy or whatever she said, like, or 552 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,240 it's not him? Does she literally have information about him? 553 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240 And I think it is just with the way she's 554 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,160 like a little bit all off from everybody. Obviously it's 555 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,079 Albert Plaza, so you kind of have a bigger star 556 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,359 though the same way with Catherine Hahn. We had idea 557 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,119 something was up with her in wand Division, So I 558 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,599 feel like there is a reason why Rio didn't take 559 00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:41,160 a little dirt nap there, you know. 560 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,039 Speaker 3: So yeah, And I mean she has been someone that 561 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,880 has been withholding information, i'd say, And it's pretty much 562 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,039 like she strolls into the episodes knowing a lot more 563 00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:52,680 than she lets on. So I think you're right she 564 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:57,839 probably has some information, ah regarding it. 565 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, And we'll Yeah, No, I don't know 566 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:05,960 where I am on the the Agatha knowing he's you know, 567 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,200 Wickan or Billy maxim Off or whatever, because it's just 568 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:14,960 it's interesting as far as like, I don't think she's 569 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,759 always known, and if we're following her rules, I don't 570 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:21,200 think she put the situal on him, right, because she 571 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,839 says like the person doesn't know even then, I don't 572 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:25,480 know if she's lying because she said, right, they don't 573 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,720 know until they break it. Right. For some reason, I 574 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,119 feel like if anyone put the situal on him, it's 575 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,880 like Wanda, whether it's our wander like a Wanda from 576 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,519 a different multiverse, to maybe like protect him, right, you 577 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,279 don't want him to know his building. So that's the 578 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,680 way I took it, and that would make sense. I 579 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,599 guess you could also say for some reason he took it, 580 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,599 and she did say like it could be broken in 581 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,160 death or I think the other way she said, like 582 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,640 when it's no longer needed. So I don't know if 583 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,519 it's like her saying she knows who his mother is 584 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,000 like almost trigger something where it's like I don't need 585 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,200 this for saw anymore. I don't know it's next. 586 00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:04,559 Speaker 3: Week Alice, because maybe if Alice's death has some kind of. 587 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Cheap with the Sichuan she put the yeah yeah, so yeah, 588 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,599 next week, I think it's gonna be I wonder because 589 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,880 what we still got. So we got six, seven, eight nine, 590 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,400 so we got four episodes. I guess technically we would 591 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,839 still have Rio's trial, and then we're supposed to have 592 00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:22,720 h I think her name was Lilia, but she's also 593 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:24,279 in the dirt, so I don't think you can go 594 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:26,640 to her trial. So I feel like next week's gonna 595 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,039 be primarily we might I feel like we might take 596 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:31,880 a break from the trials and it might be I'm 597 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,319 not gonna say a flashback episode, but maybe something to 598 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,559 that equivalent, or just an episode dealing with the reveal 599 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:42,799 of teen. And they might even draw poot Is because 600 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:44,880 they don't even drop fully, but like they show the 601 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,680 crown and they also say, like, I know who your 602 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,839 mother is. She didn't say know who your father is? Right, 603 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,160 she knows who your mother is. It's tied to want 604 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,319 a vision. Maybe the most gaga people won't get it, 605 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,720 but I feel like at that point Kirkland like and 606 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,319 people that watch this obay, okay, it's it must be 607 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,839 Wan this kid. Even then he has like the hand 608 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,400 magic which he had like his looking blue not red. 609 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,559 But I think next week is gonna be an information 610 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:11,799 filled episode for the most part, hopefully a bit longer. 611 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,039 Do you think that or do you think we're still 612 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:17,079 going to manage get a trial? And even then, like 613 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:19,160 like I guess if they do Rio's trial, are they 614 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,319 able to do it alone? Or how these characters get out? 615 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,480 I hope know what, I really hope it is not. 616 00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,200 I hope it's not like Agatha and the other witches 617 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,359 underground the Witch's Road, like trying to get out because 618 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,759 they're in the quick sand and we don't know where 619 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:34,160 it goes. So I don't want like a god, where's 620 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,960 that place in Deadpool where they prune. 621 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:39,039 Speaker 2: Them ah. 622 00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,359 Speaker 1: Zone and low key? No not the Phantom Zone. Don't 623 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,279 go there. No, it's nothing Forbidden zone. No, what is it? 624 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,119 People are mad as the MCU listeners are like you, 625 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,799 But you guys been doing this for years. You don't 626 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:57,319 even know the fucking void? The void? Yeah, why did 627 00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:58,079 I bring up the void? 628 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 629 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: That's why I don't want it to be like the 630 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,839 void of the Witch's Road, where there's like sure could 631 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 be cool. There's like monsters other witches down there, but 632 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,559 I really don't want an episode where it's Agatha and 633 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,720 the Witch's teaming together to get out of there. I'd 634 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,680 be quite disappointed. 635 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. 636 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think 637 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,240 we'll go that road. I mean, that's me trying to 638 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,960 be optimistic. 639 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: I think you're right, we're not gonna get a trial though. 640 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,559 Next episode, I think we're gonna just get just. 641 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: Get some more story and narrative kind of maybe a 642 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,119 little bit of fight scenes too, because now then we're 643 00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:33,920 outing that previous trial. I imagine that the Salem sisters 644 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,640 or whatever they are, they'll sneak in here and be 645 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,880 ready to combat, and Wickan's going to be fighting them 646 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,279 off or whatnot, So something like that. 647 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, could they be underground, that's my worry. It could 648 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,759 be wicked or is that the thing that because they're 649 00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,920 falling Agatha and she's underground and the Witch's road Like, 650 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,799 you're right, it could be. I could see at least 651 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,839 half the episode being Tim getting out of there in 652 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720 a fight and working together, and maybe the other witches 653 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,799 are gonna make what's going on, what'd you do to 654 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,319 who's teen? And she's gonna exposition dump you know everybody? 655 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:09,000 And why not say you don't think any trial? Yeah, Rio, 656 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,119 I think should still be around everything. I'm trying to 657 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:20,880 think of. There's anything else that could be happening next week? Theories? 658 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,799 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so. 659 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I got nothing aside from just I think 660 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,759 we're gonna get, like I already said, probably a combat 661 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:28,720 sequence and then just. 662 00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:29,839 Speaker 2: More revelation with Wickan. 663 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows what happens when you go into 664 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,799 that quicksand stuff. I mean, that's where our crew is. 665 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,079 I think you're gonna get Rio and Wickan that you 666 00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:40,599 already alluded to. You're gonna get something between them, or 667 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,200 you'll see Rio just stroll in there. Maybe Rio's the 668 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,519 one that actually pulled in the Salem's Seven Sisters or whatnot. 669 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,240 Who knows, so she's. 670 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,799 Speaker 1: Up to something, or it could be who was wasn't 671 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,400 team the last one to go down that he was 672 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,839 the last one to know. 673 00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: I guess that was the last one to close the door. 674 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, okay, I guess he was just outside. 675 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,319 I was wondering if he had something to do with that. 676 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,279 But yeah, okay, we'll see. Like I said, I hope 677 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,599 it's at least half and a half. Don't want a 678 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,160 full underground witch's rope, but we'll see. We've gone longer 679 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,000 than the actual episode of Anthus or there you go. 680 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,799 Do you have anything else that we haven't touch upon? 681 00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:18,599 Speaker 2: No, that's everything. 682 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,039 Speaker 1: Well, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, So quick shorter 683 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,759 one to match with the quick shorter episode. We'll be 684 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,599 back next week. Maybe we'll get Kirkland slots whose nos, 685 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,960 But we'll be back next week to talk about Agatha 686 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,880 episode six, and it will not be boring.