Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of March third,
Speaker 1: we're continuing with Lost, Season two, episode eleven, The Hunting Party.
Speaker 1: Who are they hunting?
Speaker 2: You ask?
Speaker 1: I guess they're hunting Michael. And then they are themselves
Speaker 1: being hunted and it's the Island. What do you want?
Speaker 1: They're running out of titles.
Speaker 2: And for an episode that was purportedly about Michael, it
Speaker 2: was actually all about Jack.
Speaker 1: Again. It was all about Jack, because really Honestly, isn't
Speaker 1: everything about it about Jack? Hey? Had you heard that
Speaker 1: he had kind of, I don't know, a savior complex.
Speaker 1: Did you know that about him before? And that like
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get him to take to take
Speaker 1: a case is you might work a miracle yep, and
Speaker 1: then have his father say no, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: a bad idea, but boom, he's on it.
Speaker 2: Yep. So I think his dad was using some of
Speaker 2: that reverse psychology on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to do this to be urge
Speaker 1: to be a miracle worker. Who's what drives Jack? We
Speaker 1: know this, We've known this, we will continue to know this.
Speaker 1: Michael's missing. I could get him, only me, the rest
Speaker 1: some of you can come along, but not UK Nope,
Speaker 1: not you. And did we know this about Kate, That
Speaker 1: she's the kind of person who would just come along
Speaker 1: in it and then you know, get.
Speaker 2: Get herself and kidnapped or whatever.
Speaker 1: That was contribute ruinously to the whole of never just
Speaker 1: such After like one week in the exciting world of
Speaker 1: African drug trafficking, we are right back to the same
Speaker 1: people and the same problems. Yes, we got it, we understand,
Speaker 1: We're cool. And did you know that Sun didn't really
Speaker 1: like her life before. Did you catch that by the
Speaker 1: fact that she was going to leave her husband anyway?
Speaker 1: All right, it's just like this is we've taken an
Speaker 1: interlude in the show to just before we go forward
Speaker 1: in new exciting directions. We hope. We just want to
Speaker 1: make sure you remember this.
Speaker 2: We want to just catch you up. I'm a couple
Speaker 2: things just in case you haven't been paying attention.
Speaker 1: How dare you underline them? You know? Yes, Michael not
Speaker 1: a guy who thinks thinks they're real? Well, I think
Speaker 1: we knew that. People keep taking his candle, Michael. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's a reason.
Speaker 3: For this, yes, goodness, Well why did the others like
Speaker 3: kidnap and or kill people from the tail group?
Speaker 1: But this group they're just like, Hattie, nice to see you,
Speaker 1: give us your guns and go home. We don't have
Speaker 1: we mean no ill will towards you. You let you
Speaker 1: know the jungle. Why would they not have liked kidnapped
Speaker 1: them or killed them or done anything else than just
Speaker 1: mister friendly being friendly. I guess there's nobody good in
Speaker 1: that group. They looked them over, then send them on
Speaker 1: back to the beach. And if that were the case,
Speaker 1: Jack would go, wait a minute, I've worked a miracle.
Speaker 1: I'm good. What are you talking about? She burned her father,
Speaker 1: But I'm good. Sawyer's a con man. But me, look
Speaker 1: at me. You want me right? You shouldn'tally kidnap me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that that moment when Jack was like, there's
Speaker 2: only one of you, and there's four of us, and
Speaker 2: then the others just light up their little torches in
Speaker 2: a big circle all around him, like, oh, feeling less
Speaker 2: confident now, aren't you Jack?
Speaker 1: Isn't that easy to light up a torch with flame? No,
Speaker 1: that they could all come on at the same time
Speaker 1: like that, It's not like you prush a button. No,
Speaker 1: that was a little okay.
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, but I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amusing. You knew that was come from
Speaker 1: the moment he said that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh Jack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: But from the parenting point of view, yes, since we
Speaker 1: might as well at least get parenting pointers from this.
Speaker 1: Since we're not getting that much plot though, I can
Speaker 1: sit back and go, oh, Jack, you fool. You can't
Speaker 1: work miracles. Yeah, I've done that, you know, Okay, I
Speaker 1: am the eye can do I am uniquely blessed with
Speaker 1: insight because I am a mother. I can do it.
Speaker 1: I will find the kid, I will fix the thing.
Speaker 1: I will go to the meeting and tell everybody what
Speaker 1: they need to do. I know it all and can
Speaker 1: make everything all right. Right, the kid has a fear.
Speaker 1: I'm going to settle it. You know, sometimes it's a
Speaker 1: burden to be that person to figure this out again,
Speaker 1: I solve this problem. I have to work this miracle.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's like, no, wait, everything's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I can do it, do it. I can make this work.
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's fine, say blessing and a burden, isn't
Speaker 1: A jack gets you kissed by the hot daughter in
Speaker 1: the parking lot and then dumped by your wife. You know, right, boy,
Speaker 1: Julie Bowen, she must have got that script and said
Speaker 1: so I have to basically hit him with a blood
Speaker 1: object twice. But just through my words. She's scandlin yep.
Speaker 1: And you can't blame her because their wedding was not promising.
Speaker 1: But no, at the same time, youch youch was that painful?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh, did I not mention I'm leaving you? You could have
Speaker 1: gone ahead and kissed her. It's fun and.
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't just a hole, like you always need
Speaker 2: someone to fix, which was the root of it. But oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, there's also somebody else in the picture,
Speaker 2: like and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, you couldn't have told me this yesterday. I gotta
Speaker 1: slept with the daughter.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh. So a happy life before the island not so.
Speaker 2: Much, right, But I'm guessing that's gonna be a theme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there anybody if we met anybody who was
Speaker 1: like having a great time? Was a bummer, everybody was
Speaker 1: everybody was doomed.
Speaker 2: Was dealing with something.
Speaker 1: But it'll all be okay now because Jack's gonna train
Speaker 1: an army. It's gonna like import we arranged to have
Speaker 1: another plane crew.
Speaker 2: We've already got two. Can we get did.
Speaker 1: He did he count how many torches went up? Just
Speaker 1: so he knows what he's up against. He and Ana
Speaker 1: Lucia are gonna start an army. That's that's the life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1: You and whose army?
Speaker 2: My arm that I told you I can fix it?
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Well it is. It is a parental thing to be
Speaker 2: like I am defending these people.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I don't care what it takes.
Speaker 1: And when they're walking home and Kate, who has screwed
Speaker 1: everything up, is trying to apologize, and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: not now, right now, you have to you have to
Speaker 1: wait until dad is not does not have steam coming zeros.
Speaker 1: Then you have to wait until mom doesn't have that
Speaker 1: look on her face. You have to just wait. Just
Speaker 1: be quiet, be quiet for a wild child, right, just.
Speaker 2: Boy?
Speaker 1: Very important?
Speaker 2: Yeah, to uh time, you're opposed to exactly choose your
Speaker 2: time at well.
Speaker 1: Where the person can actually hear you and is not
Speaker 1: just still screaming at you in their heads. It's so predictable, Kate,
Speaker 1: we expect better of you. She's very bad fugitive. You know,
Speaker 1: she's been caught a number of times exactly, She's caught again.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, that's like a rookie mistake baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and this does seem to happen often on
Speaker 2: this show, where like, oh, they just left, I'll catch
Speaker 2: up with him.
Speaker 1: What will you?
Speaker 2: Like this is a jungle.
Speaker 1: There's like, how do you know the tracker?
Speaker 2: I know? I mean, and she did really leave, like
Speaker 2: right pretty soon after, but Jin was about to go.
Speaker 2: He thought he could catch up.
Speaker 1: Like how many people do we want to have roaming
Speaker 1: around though, well, I Jin. I have to give respect
Speaker 1: to Jin because he listened to his wife. Yes, you
Speaker 1: saw that. There was a moment of calculation. Do I
Speaker 1: want to be a he man and go off with
Speaker 1: my friends and fix things? Or do I want to
Speaker 1: make my wife happy? And he made the right shoe. Yes,
Speaker 1: because probably your guys are going to go in the
Speaker 1: jungle and screw stuff up. But your wife is very
Speaker 1: good at being mad, and she could just speak in
Speaker 1: English for the while and then you would have no
Speaker 1: idea what she was saying. So yeah, and when he
Speaker 1: says he doesn't like being told what to do, and
Speaker 1: she said that she didn't like it either, he said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see I get it. All the moms watching
Speaker 1: this are going yeah, all the wives are going yeah,
Speaker 1: how is it new?
Speaker 2: Yikes?
Speaker 1: But I was proud of him. He took that moment
Speaker 1: to think about it.
Speaker 2: Yep, he did. He counted to ten.
Speaker 1: Do I want to go back the pit? Do I
Speaker 1: want to? I think if he had gone, he would
Speaker 1: be in a pit when he got.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right over there, Sir Son would be taking
Speaker 2: on the Anna Lucia role of I'm a dig a pit,
Speaker 2: and you're not going to believe how deep this pit is. Yep,
Speaker 2: watch me, you've already seen her digging in the garden.
Speaker 1: Yep, she would be good at it.
Speaker 2: That's how she lost her wedding ring. But well, I
Speaker 2: the wedding.
Speaker 1: Ring might be going in the pit if he's going running,
Speaker 1: rest up, running around and everybody there's enough crazy people.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, and then we have, separately from all this,
Speaker 2: a little bro time for Hurley and Charlie in the
Speaker 2: hatch listening to records talking about girls like good times?
Speaker 1: What was that that was? We have had more of that?
Speaker 1: And I must go through the jungle to fix things.
Speaker 1: Only I can bring Michael back. Yes, please calm down.
Speaker 2: And you know I just Lock, you know, just gently
Speaker 2: quietly pointing out. I don't think he wants to be found.
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants anyone to come with him.
Speaker 1: So in our parenting scenario, who is Lock? Is Lock
Speaker 1: a friend who's trying to talk the mom down, or
Speaker 1: is Lock the husband just going honey, Maybe we just
Speaker 1: let it go for now. Maybe don't charge into the
Speaker 1: bedroom and pick a fight. Maybe we just let it go. Ye,
Speaker 1: I don't know, he says, Who are we to tell
Speaker 1: anyone what they can or cannot do? And indeed a
Speaker 1: parent does have some right to tell kids what they
Speaker 1: can and cannot because they get older not so much,
Speaker 1: and it's always not always the right thing. You know,
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to lit people make their mistakes, as
Speaker 1: Michael is almost certainly doing right now. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: from the moment Jack is like, well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: fix this by running into the jungle and making things
Speaker 1: twenty times worse. You feel like maybe you could do
Speaker 1: without Michael. It's okay. Why why do we feel like
Speaker 1: we have to round up the sheep every single time
Speaker 1: one of them goes? Yesterday, it's an island. Where's he
Speaker 1: gonna go?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, couldn't get.
Speaker 1: Off it with a raft, So probably he'll come back
Speaker 1: at some point. Oh well, but not Jack.
Speaker 2: Jack is.
Speaker 1: Jack is the like all of us who have to
Speaker 1: fix the things. Yep, that is me.
Speaker 2: I am Jack, I am the problem. It's me, Yes, it's.
Speaker 1: Me, But that at some point they've only been there
Speaker 1: two months, not even I think, Yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: just like it's been forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and also like that, whenever the the other
Speaker 2: his name's tom right, was, you know, giving them this
Speaker 2: whole speech about like don't cross this line and this
Speaker 2: is our island. This is our island. I was just
Speaker 2: waiting for someone to be like, we didn't ask.
Speaker 1: To be here, exactly, like, yes.
Speaker 2: We don't want to be here.
Speaker 1: And you're not an invading force when we are just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what on earth this is about.
Speaker 2: And when we tried to get away, you screwed it up,
Speaker 2: so like why didn't you just let us go?
Speaker 1: Those are all very good points. The others are also
Speaker 1: sort of you'll do it my way kind of folks.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, so that kind of parent.
Speaker 1: Two pta moms knocking heads. It's gonna be trouble. I
Speaker 1: think we should do it this way. No, yeah, so
Speaker 1: holy cow, those fast light torches, they got to look
Speaker 1: into those. That's a very dramatic presentation, exactly.
Speaker 2: I'll get your kids to pay attention here.
Speaker 1: Oh well, what is up next? Do we get anything
Speaker 1: exciting us time? Let's see next Tuesday, we'll continue with
Speaker 1: season two, episode twelve of Lost Fire plus water. Seems
Speaker 1: like we've already had a lot of that, but okay,
Speaker 1: it's a fire putting the water out right, I mean,
Speaker 1: is the water putting fire out or what is that
Speaker 1: all about? Who are the flashbacks on for that one?
Speaker 1: Did you know.
Speaker 2: I got to notice big fine quickly.
Speaker 1: He's let it be somebody other than Kate Jack or Sawyer.
Speaker 1: You noticed that Locke was Charlie, Charlie Hey.
Speaker 2: And then Sawyer the next week, you know, with Charlie.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Charlie had a drug problem and
Speaker 1: then he was a musician.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder about his little stash of Virgin Mary
Speaker 2: statues are going to come into play.
Speaker 1: He was off to the side glowering at Locke, who
Speaker 1: was you know, chatting.
Speaker 2: With Yes, he was not happy about that.
Speaker 1: So yes, that was the same for next week probably.
Speaker 1: But did you notice that Locke was as they were,
Speaker 1: just trapes in across the jungle, just apropos of nothing,
Speaker 1: asking Sawyer about his name. Yes, but I wonder was
Speaker 1: that about file it away? Okay?
Speaker 2: So well, as I mentioned not not next the next
Speaker 2: one is Charlie. But after that we get Sawyer again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Boy, the tale people need to talk to their agent.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, when do we get our flashbags? We've
Speaker 1: been waiting over on the other side of the island
Speaker 1: getting picked off by others. We want our flashbacks.
Speaker 2: I got a flashback, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yes, and echo, we got yes, Echo.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sir.
Speaker 1: Yes, but still, I don't you gonna want to know
Speaker 1: how Rosen Bernard met and had their little romance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to know more about them, but it's all
Speaker 1: going to be sad and having it some way brought
Speaker 1: them to this place, right again, Let them just enjoy themselves, right,
Speaker 1: enjoy their reunion without having to any psychodrama whatsoever. Right,
Speaker 1: So tomorrow we will be back to discuss a man
Speaker 1: on the inside. We've had a lot of man on
Speaker 1: the outside. Now tomorrow on the inside, and not in
Speaker 1: a hatch either, No.
Speaker 2: In a lovely apartment building.
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