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Speaker 1: You know a lot of folks have asked Ross on

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the post game show last night about Reed Shepherd about

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the way he kept you out in the fourth quarter,

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did not play in the overtime. It felt like to

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me when you were answered in the post game, was

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that there were some defensive things that were a part

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of the entire package. Would that be the best one

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to explain why you went with say, jabbarring Tari in

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the extra time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we have some coverage things that we

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wanted to do with Embead and and different guys and

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Maxi of course, and you know part of the game

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they were really hurting us with their pick and roll downhill,

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you know, not being one of our better defenders. But

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it's a balance. You have to figure out what you

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need to do, whether you want to try to get

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stops or try to outscore somebody. And went with a

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bigger lineup with the more sizes out there.

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Speaker 1: You know, look, you and Joel are very tight, and

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he had a triple double yesterday. I know he's been

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battling injuries the last couple of years. Is it little

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not necessarily bizarre and you look, you've got friends are

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on the league. But for his guy that you developed

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a relationship with. You want to personally have success, you

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just don't wanted to have it at the expense of

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the team that you're coaching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're happy to see him back out there and

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being able to start playing through through some of the

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things he's gone through. But at the same time, you

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know ways to try to mitigate some of his success,

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and I don't think we did that for the most

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part last night, you know, reaching and fouling much too much.

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He's averaged nine three throws game. I think we reached

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him four times to give him eight, and then just

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not taking up enough of the space some of what

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we did to whom and Yama. You want to take

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up the space, be aggressive there and make him put

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it on the floor, and I think we gave him

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too many comfortable shots multiple times.

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Speaker 1: But it has been nice and I think every team

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dreams of this eBay, that you have a guy that

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has can be that microwave like Vinnie Johnson was back

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in the day in terms of coming off the bench

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and providing points. And it has been a second straight

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game that reached jump shot has certainly helped you guys

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get back into ball games.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, he's becoming more consistent across the board.

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We understand what he does when he's when he's scoring

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at that clip and how it elevates our team. I

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think it gives us a totally different look from my

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men and Kevin and some of those guys that pick

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and roll and s great to see him continue to

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grow as far as that. Trying to help him be

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more well rounded in general, but love the progress that

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he's showing.

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Speaker 3: Rocket Ted coach Imi Adoka was here on a Sports

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Talk seven ninety and just kind of earlier to the

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read thing in the lineups that you choose. What is

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that like for you as a coach as far as

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the process of you know, guys can be cold all game,

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but then in clutch time they can start hitting shots

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and vice versa. What are the things that you're looking

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for when it comes to clutch time lineups and then

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overtime lineups.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of any point of the game. It's really consistency.

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You know, we understand what certain guys are going to

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give up good of us, their strengths and weaknesses, and

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try to help them develop as far as their weaknesses

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and so across the board, We want guys to be

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well rounded, understanding other guys. Some guys have more of

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a skill flip than others, but we want other guys

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in those areas as well, and so got a good

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deep team, a lot of versatility as far as that,

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and when one guy is not making shots or not

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defending at the level we feel we can know, its

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multiple different lineups. Once we get Tari, Dorian and those

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guys off of a minute restrictions, will be a little

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bit easier to not have to miss mix and maths much.

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But I think that will bode well for us going

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forward with all the different people we can get out

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there and play.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, free throws were part of the issue last night

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as well as I mean, what if anything can be

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done throughout the season or long term, And we've seen

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him in Thompson make a big leap in his free

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throw shooting, and we've seen some guys just be up

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and down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this really comes down to confidence and repetition.

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You know, it feels like early in the season we

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were shooting them very well. Lately haven't been as well,

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but you have to stick with their routine. And you know,

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we signed Tacks with guys to get up a certain

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number per day and we have to stick with that.

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And I think you've seen direct results from that throughout

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training camp and early in the season with the numbers

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we were shooting the percentages that we were shooting it.

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So for us, it's it's continue with your reps, you know,

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and then stay confident through that. If you're a guy

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that handles the ball or gets a bunch of touches,

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you're going to get the free throw line more and

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got to knock those down and convert at a higher level.

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Speaker 1: Could you help me out with what happened last night?

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Obviously the ball with the Durant block and then there

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was a loose possession. I thought if you grabbed it

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you called the time out, there was going to be

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time for you to have a shot. Did you any

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clarity about why the clock was at point one before

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the game ultimately went to overtime.

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Speaker 2: I think they said Tari didn't have full possession of it,

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which I saw him dribbling up, so tried to call

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a time out and you know, get us the last

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shot there. But I guess they went back and looked

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or you know, consulted with each other and said, he

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didn't have full possession, like he was still in the

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process of grabbing it. So that's a that's the definition

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Speaker 1: And you're not satisfied with that, are you.

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Speaker 2: He'd like to get the last set and you know,

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give yourself a chance there. But still a great defensive

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play and we had our chances in overtime as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I made Doka with us for a

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few more minutes here on the program. Kevin last night

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thirty six points, seven rebounds, and like a true pro.

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The one number that he looked at when he was

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talking to the media after the game last night and

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felt off he was the turnover numbers. Kevin's never been

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a low turnover guy, but when he's so fluid on

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the offensive side, it's just part of the game. Have

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you noticed that he does spend a little bit of

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time talking about the negatives when he was just such

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a huge part of the team's offense last night.

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Speaker 2: I think dinsis his mindset and mentality is trying to

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be perfect out there, and you're scoring that much in

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like I said, you give up twenty one points off

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a ton overs in a tight game like that, you're

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going to look at yourself and see that eight is

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too many. And so whether it's just being not predetermining

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what you want to do or being strong with the

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ball understanding use the focal point. Teams are going to

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go after him and he has to be stronger with it.

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But the other guys have to sprint for spacing and

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get their outlets as well. And so I always say

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we should have might double teams and have those numbers

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and pick it apart. And the first part is getting

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the pass out of there, and then let's give them

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such chance to do that.

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Speaker 3: Big matchup just from record wise and measuring stick wise

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with the Detroit Pisson snide and going into the game,

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you know that it's going to be physical. You know

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that these two teams have you know, had some tension

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before in the in the season. Is that anything any

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special messages like everybody keep their cool out there or

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I know, we know you like this type of knockdown,

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drag out game that it could be tonight.

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Speaker 2: No, just be who you are, and you know we

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both I think both teams welcome that. But you know,

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you understand what their strengths are. They have a really

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good player in Cunningham, and they are tecting an offense

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rebound behind us, So since it's gonna be a battle

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as far as that, you know, one of our guys

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being down with Steve and other guys have to step

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up and make up that difference. And yeah, we two

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physical teams enjoy that side of the ball, and so yeah,

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you always say keep you cool or whatever, but I

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think beat you are and two teams will be ready

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to battle it out.

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Speaker 1: As far as that last thing for you may, we

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just passed the forty two game marks, so we're a

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little bit past the halfway point of the season. What

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did you love in the first forty one and what

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do you want to see differently in the next forty one?

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Speaker 2: You know, overall, you know, when you look at the

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standings and you know we're in fourth place in the

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West right now and haven't played our best basketball buydings

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any means lately. That's that's a good sign for us

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because we know we could take it to another level.

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Numbers overall being a fourth defense, our third in defense

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and the fifth in offense, you're hitting some of those

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bench marks, and then I think we're third and overall

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net rating, So numbers don't always coincide with our closing

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of games. I think that's the biggest thing with us.

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We've been really good at times, and even games we

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haven't shot that well or played that well defensively, we're

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still in those games. It's just a matter of closing now,

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and we're gonna have to zero in on that second

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half of the season and to really get to where

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we want to be.