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Speaker 2: How great was that? I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was even better than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1: Ran We've been talking about how Vance was going to
Speaker 1: win and all that good stuff. But the way he won,
Speaker 1: I think is more than the cherry on top. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's going to combine with everything else, including
Speaker 1: some things swirling around the debate, to make this debate
Speaker 1: really matter, really matter long term.
Speaker 2: Now, Hey, you know.
Speaker 1: My belief, my belief is that barring something mega, and
Speaker 1: there may well be something mega.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know.
Speaker 1: Israel at this point is probably in that stretch run
Speaker 1: of regime change in Iran, whatever form that takes. But
Speaker 1: that this election is locked. You know, the cake is baked,
Speaker 1: I believe. And then yeah, that assumes that Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: finish as strong as he has in sixteen and twenty.
Speaker 1: But I think Americans are are done with it at
Speaker 1: this point. I think they figured it out. I think
Speaker 1: last night was kind of the you know, official kind
Speaker 1: of bow on top for the most part, and again,
Speaker 1: barring something seismic, I think it's locked in.
Speaker 2: But what a great way to end it.
Speaker 1: And by it I mean kind of this more formal
Speaker 1: political season, right, because there's nothing at this point, nothing
Speaker 1: out there major that one would expect to be able
Speaker 1: to stop Harris's fall. And it's not like she's falling
Speaker 1: off a cliff, right, But you don't have to fall
Speaker 1: off a cliff to lose this election. The sugar high ended,
Speaker 1: then she started to drop, and just nothing else left.
Speaker 1: And last night, I think any honest observer would have
Speaker 1: to agree, was a very good night for Team Trump.
Speaker 1: But if you disagree, hey, we will send the limo.
Speaker 1: We will make you the first caller, treat you with
Speaker 1: tremendous respect, as we always do those who disagree with
Speaker 1: those who agree. But I also want to talk about
Speaker 1: not just the who won and who lost, but the why.
Speaker 1: And I want to talk about what I view as
Speaker 1: the multiplier, say that the way the advance one I
Speaker 1: think multiplies the benefit of this, and want to talk
Speaker 1: about why I think this has a bigger impact than
Speaker 1: even expected. Let me start with that, as we go
Speaker 1: to the sound and what I love to do. You
Speaker 1: probably know this if you've been kind enough to listen
Speaker 1: to the show over the years. What I love to
Speaker 1: do after these debates is I love to play the
Speaker 1: sound of the opponent. Love to play the sound of
Speaker 1: the left and their media outlets and their reaction to it,
Speaker 1: because to me, I had no interest last night after
Speaker 1: that debate ended in turning on Fox Right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to hear CNN. I wanted to hear that piece.
Speaker 1: I want to hear them all just kind of wallowing
Speaker 1: their misery because they have really got to be freaked.
Speaker 2: So we'll start with that.
Speaker 1: But then before the end of this first segment, I
Speaker 1: want to give you my take on what I think
Speaker 1: the most powerful currents are going to be coming out
Speaker 1: of last night's debate. Now, if you watched it, I
Speaker 1: mean you already know what the key highs were in
Speaker 1: all of them. We'll play some of that sound just
Speaker 1: for fun. But I'm a big believer. I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer in this from just life. I'm a big believer
Speaker 1: in this from forty years of trying cases in court,
Speaker 1: big believer in this from watching politics, that it can
Speaker 1: be fun but it's too easy to get sucked into
Speaker 1: the micro stuff, and it's so important to back off
Speaker 1: and to just look at the major currents, look at
Speaker 1: the big impact, big picture dynamics, and because those almost
Speaker 1: always control the outcome. And I think there's some big
Speaker 1: picture stuff from last night that isn't being talked about
Speaker 1: that I think is going to make the benefit of
Speaker 1: this debate, you know, at least doubler triple what it
Speaker 1: otherwise would be. But anyway, let's have some fun first
Speaker 1: with the folks on the left. And then I get
Speaker 1: to some text I was getting last night just on
Speaker 1: my phone from friends of mine on the left. How
Speaker 1: about this one? And I asked people if I could
Speaker 1: use these anonymously, and they said I could use them anonymously.
Speaker 2: So I can't even hint at who these.
Speaker 1: People are or what they do, but they are solidly
Speaker 1: on the left, very good humans, but solidly on the left.
Speaker 1: Your guy did great tonight and the moderators were the
Speaker 1: worst of all time. That's fair, right, And again the left,
Speaker 1: they just don't get this because they look down on
Speaker 1: the American people. They if you're not an elite, the
Speaker 1: left looks down on you. And the media left really
Speaker 1: looks down on you, which is ironic because so many
Speaker 1: of them are paper tigers, so many of.
Speaker 2: Them are living a lie.
Speaker 1: You take them locally and nationally, and there're some noble exceptions,
Speaker 1: but you take these these media lefties who primp and
Speaker 1: preen and pretend to be so powerful and influential, they'll
Speaker 1: never get in the arena. They will ever get into
Speaker 1: a debate themselves. They would fall apart. They probably need diapers.
Speaker 1: You know, they'll take it, they'll snark and they'll take
Speaker 1: their shots. But yeah, so what the left doesn't get
Speaker 1: is is the American people across party lines. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about the extremists on the left, but the American
Speaker 1: people have a strong sense of fairness. And in both,
Speaker 1: you know, the Trump debate on ABC and the Vance
Speaker 1: debate last.
Speaker 2: Night, everybody could see it was rigged. It was rigged.
Speaker 1: It was one against three and both of those debates.
Speaker 1: And we can debate whether last night was even worse
Speaker 1: than ABC, but obviously Advance was able to handle it
Speaker 1: very well and take it to his advantage. But well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get into some of that moderator stuff. But here
Speaker 1: is Abby Philip on CNN not at all pleased at
Speaker 1: the end of this debate.
Speaker 3: I think we shouldn't lose track. I think, even in
Speaker 3: the civility of the fact that JD. Vance came to
Speaker 3: this debate to land a bunch of punches, and he did.
Speaker 3: He landed a lot of punches in between all the
Speaker 3: niceties and all of that. And the thing that really
Speaker 3: stood out to me was that Tim Walls did not
Speaker 3: seem prepared for it. He didn't respond to a lot
Speaker 3: of the criticisms and attacks that Vance put on the table.
Speaker 3: He allowed some clear falsehoods to just go completely unanswered.
Speaker 2: He allowed JD.
Speaker 3: Vance essentially to dodge on a whole host of issues
Speaker 3: on climate change, on the issue of his flip flopping
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump. He allowed Vance initially to claim that Trump.
Speaker 2: Salvaged the Affordable Care Act.
Speaker 3: It took him several sentences to get to the part
Speaker 3: of his answer Walt's answer where he actually responded to that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there was a clear lack of
Speaker 3: preparation and execution here. I think he did.
Speaker 2: Now Danna Bash is going to come back and see
Speaker 2: the opposite. He was over prepared.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, that's the way CNN
Speaker 1: started their post came okay, so you know how the
Speaker 1: real world works. That the largest audience would have been
Speaker 1: in the beginning of that debate, and the largest audience
Speaker 1: for the postgame and the most impact are the first
Speaker 1: comments in the post game.
Speaker 2: So that is the message that.
Speaker 1: CNN wanted to send, which was that Walls lost. And
Speaker 1: why do you think they wanted to send that message?
Speaker 1: Now Bash comes back and I think makes a good
Speaker 1: point that the Walls's failure, if it had anything to
Speaker 1: do with preparation, would have been over preparation. I think
Speaker 1: his failure had to do with something else.
Speaker 2: I think actually it's the opposite. I think he had
Speaker 2: too much preparation.
Speaker 4: Maybe he had so many lines.
Speaker 5: That he was clearly trying to say that he didn't
Speaker 5: listen and said when Jadie Vance said one of the many,
Speaker 5: many things he really hit Kamala Harris on, not Tim Wallas,
Speaker 5: but Kamala Harris, he didn't respond because he clearly had
Speaker 5: things in his mind. I think the lack of interviews
Speaker 5: that he has done with national media with local media,
Speaker 5: it showed.
Speaker 2: He needed more dual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me disagree with that last point for this reason.
Speaker 1: The reason he hasn't been doing the interviews is he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to do them well. And so
Speaker 1: the cabal that runs the Harris campaign that had are installed,
Speaker 1: if they went out there and put him out in
Speaker 1: a bunch of interviews, they've done the calculation.
Speaker 2: It's going to hurt them. Because here's the point.
Speaker 1: And I'm really glad Trump is on this point now,
Speaker 1: and I hope he uses the right words for it.
Speaker 1: But the point is, for this kind of job, whether
Speaker 1: you're talking about president or vice president, we as a nation,
Speaker 1: across party lines, we need somebody with superior mental capacity.
Speaker 2: We really do need that.
Speaker 1: Now, if your principles and morals aren't right, then that
Speaker 1: superior mental capacity is probably either wasted or leads to
Speaker 1: bad things. But we need somebody with superior mental capacity.
Speaker 2: And clearly it Waltz doesn't have that, and JD does.
Speaker 1: No matter what you think of JD's politics, and obviously
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote for him, he has superior mental capacity.
Speaker 1: And I know Donald Trump props a lot of strong
Speaker 1: feelings because of some personality stuff, but clearly you look
Speaker 1: at his life, the success in his first term getting
Speaker 1: himself elected on the verge of a second term. Trump
Speaker 1: has superior mental capacity. I don't think anybody can obviously
Speaker 1: and honestly say that Harris or Walls have superior mental capacity.
Speaker 2: And there are very grave doubts about whether they have
Speaker 2: the type of mental capability it would take to do
Speaker 2: the job.
Speaker 1: So that's why Walls wasn't out there doing more interviews,
Speaker 1: and that's why he failed the way that he failed
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 2: He doesn't mean he's a dumb guy.
Speaker 1: It just means he doesn't have that superior mental capacity
Speaker 1: to excel in that kind of job.
Speaker 2: A fib to five for zero five eight two five
Speaker 2: five the numbers. So that was fun. How about this
Speaker 2: one from Kristin Welker?
Speaker 6: And so I was getting texts from Democrats panicked quite frankly,
Speaker 6: who were saying, Wow, he's really moderating himself on.
Speaker 2: A lot of these issues.
Speaker 6: He's the most likable he has ever been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their panic goes beyond Trump winning, right, just
Speaker 1: a little over a month from now. Hard to believe
Speaker 1: we're saying that, all right, and I know we have
Speaker 1: to hit this break, but their panic goes far beyond
Speaker 1: that because what they're seeing in jd Vance is a
Speaker 1: young brilliant, attractive, put the emphasis on young, next generation
Speaker 1: of MAGA president eight five five for zero five A
Speaker 1: two five to five the number.
Speaker 2: Hey, when we come back, I'll talk about.
Speaker 1: Those big currents that I think were at work last
Speaker 1: night that so favored Trump and really haven't been discussed
Speaker 1: yet here on The Dankpla Show.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 8: John King at the beginning, the two issues driving the
Speaker 8: campaign right now are Harris has a big depicit out
Speaker 8: of the economy, Harris has a big depicit of immigration.
Speaker 8: And Republicans were happy tonight and Democrats a little bit
Speaker 8: nervous that on those two issues.
Speaker 2: Vance carried it well and I think it was more
Speaker 2: than that, But those two matter.
Speaker 1: And I loved Ryan's music, not just because I love
Speaker 1: that song, but also it was one of the big
Speaker 1: dynamics last night, one of these big currents, and that
Speaker 1: is you go beyond the Q and the A and
Speaker 1: the this and the that.
Speaker 2: But JD.
Speaker 1: Vance is so much younger than anybody in the race,
Speaker 1: and I think there's this big craving in America right
Speaker 1: now for really young leadership. Now, Kamala Harris is younger
Speaker 1: than Donald Trump, but she's not young. I think there's
Speaker 1: craving for the next kind of Kennedy esque generation of
Speaker 1: young leadership.
Speaker 2: And jd.
Speaker 1: Vance showed last night that he has these special abilities.
Speaker 1: Now I understand there are still plenty of people don't
Speaker 1: like him, don't like his politics, they buy into the
Speaker 1: lies about him whatever.
Speaker 2: And he hasn't been perfect, none of us have.
Speaker 1: But he showed last night he's brilliant and he handled
Speaker 1: himself on that stage. And here's where here's where the
Speaker 1: rigged debate really helped him, because he was able to
Speaker 1: handle it so well. He ended up gaining even more
Speaker 1: respect and esteem, even grudgingly from people who don't like
Speaker 1: his politics. And we're hoping he'd go out there with
Speaker 1: this fly open and just flop down on the floor.
Speaker 1: So so there is this hunger for that kind of leadership.
Speaker 1: Is that going to be the controlling dynamic in the race? No,
Speaker 1: because he's not the nominee, But it is a plus.
Speaker 1: And I think in the big dynamic, big current category
Speaker 1: it's even more of a plus because and this is
Speaker 1: never pulled upon, and I understand why, but there have
Speaker 1: got to be a lot of people out there who
Speaker 1: are thinking that Okay, I'm going to vote for President Trump.
Speaker 1: President Trump wins, or I'm thinking of voting for Trump.
Speaker 1: Trump wins. But you clearly at this point have all
Speaker 1: these evil forces aligned to try to harm him. So
Speaker 1: you know you have a lot of voters thinking, well, shoot,
Speaker 1: what happens if you know these evil people are able
Speaker 1: to hurt President Trump? Well, now I think there's going
Speaker 1: to be and obviously we hope and we pray that
Speaker 1: now happens, right, But I think there are going to
Speaker 1: be more people thinking, Okay, if something horrific like that happened,
Speaker 1: you know jd Vance would be able to handle the job.
Speaker 1: This is another big current from last night. Honestly, Ryan,
Speaker 1: as I go to the phone lines in the text,
Speaker 1: I don't think there was one person in America who
Speaker 1: went home last night, including Tim Walls, and said, boy,
Speaker 1: I'd really love to see Tim Walls as president. Not
Speaker 1: one anywhere. I think there were a lot of people
Speaker 1: who went home saying I'd like to see J. D
Speaker 1: Vance's president, right, I mean, really, who would have gone
Speaker 1: to bed last night? Pillow Tuck said, man, I'd really
Speaker 1: like to see love to see timp on Tim as president,
Speaker 1: or I'd love to see governor. Really, who would say that,
Speaker 1: but vance you could get excited about that. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Brian and Arvada. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2: Welcome Brian.
Speaker 4: Hey, I thought Waltz actually exceeded my expectations.
Speaker 2: What do you expect?
Speaker 9: Well, I didn't expect anything. I mean, this is the
Speaker 9: guy that run around, flow in his arms around. You know,
Speaker 9: he let minneapples burned for a few days, he put
Speaker 9: camp ons and boys' restrooms. But he actually sounded a
Speaker 9: little bit more reasonable than you know, all his policies before.
Speaker 9: So I've given maybe a two out of a ten.
Speaker 2: Oh that's generous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that hold. I think I'm hoping that
Speaker 4: what it did is we got a lot of these
Speaker 4: women or in Cherry Hills, you know, they're in nice,
Speaker 4: safe communities. They're completely disconnected from reality. I'm hoping that
Speaker 4: he was able to pick up a couple of those,
Speaker 4: you know, the people that they'd just get to live
Speaker 4: in their little secure area, don't care about what's happening
Speaker 4: or are not, and why would they?
Speaker 1: Hey, Brian, let me ask you, and just a kind
Speaker 1: of background question, have you ever met a suburban woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Have a litery that's a suburban woman.
Speaker 4: I argue with all the time. She got the vaccine.
Speaker 9: We're so arguing about.
Speaker 1: Okay now, but I'm glad she's still alive. So tell me, though,
Speaker 1: And that's not an endorsement of the vaccine. I wish
Speaker 1: I'd never gotten mine. So, but but tell me this,
Speaker 1: is that really your stereotype of suburban women, because if
Speaker 1: it is, your your analysis model is fundamentally flawed.
Speaker 4: No, it's not, Dan, because I met a lot of them.
Speaker 4: They're they're they're living in a pony world where usually
Speaker 4: the husband makes a lot of money. Their biggest problem is, hey,
Speaker 4: I got to make my hair appointment. They're totally separated.
Speaker 4: These are the people that would go see Michelle or something.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I know you're probably alluding to my wife, But.
Speaker 9: But tell me I'm not in general.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's.
Speaker 1: Fine, But with the point being, have you actually met
Speaker 1: one of them and drawn your conclusions from that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my sister was friends in the same way.
Speaker 2: Brian, Thanks the call, Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 1: Okay, because all I can tell you and I do
Speaker 1: know a little something about suburban women I'm married to one,
Speaker 1: and and you know I met a lot of them,
Speaker 1: and that stereotype does not fit at all at all.
Speaker 10: Dan, was there any communication between you and Amy about JD.
Speaker 2: Vanceas my Last.
Speaker 1: Night we sat down together, she made this great spaghetti pie.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had spaghetti pie? Now I'm sounding like
Speaker 1: I'm sounding like Vance and Walls. Last night you asked
Speaker 1: me a question. You know, I grew up in a
Speaker 1: log cabin. But anyway, so she makes this great spaghetti pie.
Speaker 1: We sit at the bar counter to watch it on
Speaker 1: the bar TV. And how long do you think we
Speaker 1: lasted there together?
Speaker 2: Six minutes?
Speaker 1: It's about right, all right, It's about right, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I just couldn't help myself. It was my fault,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of my fault. I could not help
Speaker 1: myself with the Walls comments. And you know, they just
Speaker 1: wouldn't stop. Even when I tried to stop him so
Speaker 1: my wife would stay, they wouldn't stop. But that's how
Speaker 1: deeply I feel about this guy. He's such a fraud,
Speaker 1: he's such a liar. He is so completely unprepared and
Speaker 1: incapable of being president. And I just I'm so thankful
Speaker 1: she picked him because I was sitting there last night
Speaker 1: thinking I even said this to Amy, which she agreed with.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if she had picked Josh Shapiro and
Speaker 1: that was Josh Shapiro up there last night. Now, jd
Speaker 1: Vance would have won because jd Vance is that good,
Speaker 1: but Josh Shapiro is really good. Horrible idea. It would
Speaker 1: be a terrible president because of ideology. But like Vance,
Speaker 1: Shapiro is a super smart guy who has the skill
Speaker 1: set to be president. The Democrats have a lot of
Speaker 1: really smart people at the top who have the skill
Speaker 1: set to be president. They just have horrible ideology that
Speaker 1: would ruin the country. Walls is not one of those
Speaker 1: people who has that skill set. He's like three or
Speaker 1: four tiers down. So you can see why she lasted
Speaker 1: about six minutes. Won we come back so much fun.
Speaker 1: Sound of the left freaking out after the Vance win.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 7: You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 11: I think the Walls did team unsteady and frankly, what
Speaker 11: I saw in Walls is somebody who has not faced
Speaker 11: questions on a national stage since he became the Democratic knowledge.
Speaker 2: He was simply out of practice.
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know why they've done it, but
Speaker 11: they've no out of depth.
Speaker 2: Out of depth doesn't have the ability.
Speaker 11: Helped him out of the limelight.
Speaker 2: They've kept him away from reporters. They haven't had him
Speaker 2: do it for a good reason.
Speaker 1: Don't you think if letting him talk would help them win?
Speaker 1: Talk all day and night.
Speaker 11: He interviews, and he was clearly unsteady through much of
Speaker 11: that debate. And in contrast, JD. Vance was very smooth.
Speaker 11: He took the arguments not to Walls, he was very
Speaker 11: respectful of Walls, took it to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big picture, strong currents, strong currents. The American people
Speaker 1: know this, and this is where the left misses it
Speaker 1: because there's such elitists. They think that anybody who doesn't
Speaker 1: have huge money or isn't in the media elite or
Speaker 1: this elite or that that elite is stupid. And they
Speaker 1: got it backwards. So many of the people who are
Speaker 1: in the elite are stupid or at least lack common
Speaker 1: sense or experience or mentally or emotionally. I meant to
Speaker 1: say stupid, but there are so many people who don't
Speaker 1: have much money, who don't have fancy jobs, whatever, who
Speaker 1: are frigging brilliant. But the left doesn't get that. Here's
Speaker 1: the point. The point is who do Americans go to,
Speaker 1: whether people make good money, no money, bad money, Who
Speaker 1: do you go to when you're sick or when your
Speaker 1: kid sick, or who do you go to when the
Speaker 1: pipes are bursting or whatever? You try to find the
Speaker 1: smartest person you can. Americans value intelligence. They value intelligence,
Speaker 1: and that's why I think it's become a big sleeper
Speaker 1: issue in this campaign. Jade Vance is obviously highly intelligent,
Speaker 1: highly articulate, highly organized, and I think everybody honest watching
Speaker 1: last night would say, you know what, if he ended
Speaker 1: up as a president, he could handle it and he'd
Speaker 1: look the part, and our enemies would have to take
Speaker 1: him seriously. Who could say that about Tim Wats Which
Speaker 1: brings me back to another kind of big current point,
Speaker 1: and that is when you go back to that June
Speaker 1: twenty seventh debate. Obviously, you know we'd been talking about
Speaker 1: it for many, many moons before, but Biden should have
Speaker 1: been taken out with the twenty fifth Amendment long before
Speaker 1: that debate. But the point being, it wasn't just his
Speaker 1: inability to answer questions that night, etc.
Speaker 2: That sunk Biden.
Speaker 4: It was what.
Speaker 2: It was, the facial expressions. It was those images that.
Speaker 1: People saw that night as they watched, but then saw
Speaker 1: day after day on social or in mainstream news or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was those facial expressions.
Speaker 1: And last night, I mean, Waltz had a lot of
Speaker 1: those same facial expressions. I'd submit even worse. And I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be playground, pejorative anything like that. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to be honest and real about what effects
Speaker 1: and should affect American voters. Nobody wants a president who
Speaker 1: who has the kind of facial expressions in public on
Speaker 1: a big stage that that just scream confusion and dullness
Speaker 1: and weakness and weirdness. And you had so many of
Speaker 1: those from Walls, and Vance was the polar opposite. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a big fact. It's a big factor
Speaker 1: on multiple levels. First, we're all wired, right, I think
Speaker 1: God created all of us, you know, with this instinct
Speaker 1: to protect our loved ones, our family, our community in
Speaker 1: US and people, et cetera. We're all wired for self protection.
Speaker 1: And we live in a very dangerous world now. And
Speaker 1: people on levels, even subliminal levels, they want a strong
Speaker 1: leader who looks the part. It doesn't mean they have
Speaker 1: to be white or black, or handsome or ugly, but
Speaker 1: they just look the part. And Walts was the opposite
Speaker 1: of that, just like those Biden images.
Speaker 2: You know, the look on his face.
Speaker 1: That's not what Americans want and a leader now, Trump
Speaker 1: good strong look during his debate. Vance was perfect. Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris had a good look in her debate. It's part
Speaker 1: of what helped create this perception that she won. I
Speaker 1: think I've been proven right long term that in the
Speaker 1: ways that mattered, she lost. But she looked good and
Speaker 1: she didn't have any of those weird faces or anything else.
Speaker 1: She looked good. Trump looked good, and Vance look good.
Speaker 1: But Biden and Walls those faces, everything else. It's not
Speaker 1: superficial at all. This is where people's survival and self
Speaker 1: protection instinct kick in.
Speaker 2: Just weird. Kevin in Boulder, you're on the dan Kaplash'll welcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I caught it on the radio, But I didn't care
Speaker 12: much for the debate. If I was a Democrat voter,
Speaker 12: I don't think Vance would have said much to make
Speaker 12: me change my vote. If I was answering those questions,
Speaker 12: I would have attacked with almost every answer, the specifics,
Speaker 12: the specific details of the evil and the commonest factors
Speaker 12: of the Democrat Party and what they're doing, what they've
Speaker 12: been doing, and what they wanted to do.
Speaker 4: He didn't do that hardly at all.
Speaker 12: And I would have attacked, attacked, so that the Democrat
Speaker 12: voters along with Republicans would know or at least hear
Speaker 12: the truth about what's really going on. And he didn't
Speaker 12: do much to change that.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Kevin, this is such an important call
Speaker 1: because you're bringing up a counter approach to this that
Speaker 1: a lot of smart people could argue in favor of.
Speaker 1: And obviously Jade Vance and his team and the Trump
Speaker 1: team thought long and hard about this and chose to
Speaker 1: take the approach they did last night. And whether you
Speaker 1: agree with it or not, it was obviously very carefully
Speaker 1: calculated to give Trump the best chance to win. And
Speaker 1: so why do you think they chose rightly or wrongly?
Speaker 1: And I think they chose correctly, But why do you
Speaker 1: think they chose to take that approach rather than you know, okay,
Speaker 1: gloves are off. From the minute that bell rings, I'm
Speaker 1: going right for the throat.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to stop pummeling for two hours.
Speaker 12: Okay, Well, when I say that, I don't mean there
Speaker 12: should be any yelling or screaming, no, anything like that.
Speaker 12: But Trump, to me, a Trump seems very naive when
Speaker 12: he got into office. He should have got rid of
Speaker 12: all those people in the deep state that are still
Speaker 12: there working for Obama. And he attacked better in my
Speaker 12: opinion when I heard parts of his speeches and debates.
Speaker 12: But to me, the debate last night sounded by the radio,
Speaker 12: sounded like two old gentlemen sitting on the porch in
Speaker 12: their rocking chairs, and.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: Just too low key.
Speaker 2: It was interesting they didn't go after this.
Speaker 12: They should have gone for the throat, not in a mean,
Speaker 12: nasty way.
Speaker 4: Sure, so people know what's really the truth is.
Speaker 2: You know, I got it, And.
Speaker 1: That's very intelligent argument you're making. I think the reason
Speaker 1: they chose to go the other way, and I'm really
Speaker 1: glad that they did, is, as you know, politics is
Speaker 1: a game of addition, and I think what they concluded
Speaker 1: was that their best chance to reach the people who
Speaker 1: they don't already have was to take that kind of tone.
Speaker 2: Because, as you know, JD.
Speaker 1: Vance's approval numbers have been bizarrely low, and his disapproval
Speaker 1: numbers have been oddly high. So I think from an
Speaker 1: electoral math standpoint, they went in saying, you know what, what,
Speaker 1: we just have to approve improve his likability, and.
Speaker 12: They made the right choice. Yeah, I'm not saying they didn't.
Speaker 12: I'm saying I wouldn't do it that way. I don't think. Yeah,
Speaker 12: but I'm not running for president.
Speaker 1: So no, Well, really smart call, really smart call Kevin. Hey,
Speaker 1: very much appreciate that, Thank you, And that leads us
Speaker 1: into another part of the conversation. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get your take on, which is all right, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: if you do know me, thank you for listening to
Speaker 1: the show. Right to life, protection of innocent human life
Speaker 1: in all of its forms, at all of its stages,
Speaker 1: is the foundational issue for me. And because guess what
Speaker 1: if they kill you before you're born, the other stuff
Speaker 1: doesn't matter that much, right, So foundational issue for me.
Speaker 1: And obviously last night JD. Vance took a much softer
Speaker 1: approach to that than Republicans normally take. When we come back,
Speaker 1: I'm going to play some sound from somebody who wants
Speaker 1: Trump to win. Very prominent guy wants Trump to win,
Speaker 1: but was very upset with that lighter touch on the
Speaker 1: life issue last night. And then I want to get
Speaker 1: your take on that. Do you think that was a
Speaker 1: smart or a dumb move by JD and the Trump campaign?
Speaker 1: I have strong feelings out of myself. Eight f five
Speaker 1: for zero five eight two to five five will continue
Speaker 1: a plenty of sound of the left losing their minds,
Speaker 1: which I think is the very best proof that the
Speaker 1: Trump campaign made the right decision in the type of
Speaker 1: tone they wanted to strike last night, and we'll replay
Speaker 1: that instant class There were so many instant classics. I
Speaker 1: don't know whether it was Walls and he's friends with
Speaker 1: school shooters, or whether it was a brilliant job Vance
Speaker 1: did of fact checking the so called fact checkers.
Speaker 2: Who were wrong and cheated. They broke the rules that
Speaker 2: they had agreed to.
Speaker 7: You're on the Dan Caplis Show, and now back to
Speaker 7: the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: There was so many nice to be on that day
Speaker 2: station night.
Speaker 6: I am just kind of like, well, if you agree
Speaker 6: so much with JD. Vance, why should they vote for you.
Speaker 2: I fully believe that Governor.
Speaker 6: Watson out there tonight and did what was practicing debate
Speaker 6: prep did what the strategy was that that the team
Speaker 6: put together.
Speaker 2: That was not the governor walls.
Speaker 6: That we that I had seen out on the campaign traip.
Speaker 6: That's not the governor walls that I had seen during
Speaker 6: the beepstakes, right, that was not the JD Vance that
Speaker 6: I know to be true. I mean, goodness. Jd Vance
Speaker 6: was on that stage. He was sorry about Emma Thurman.
Speaker 6: He was he was sorry about a boy, He was
Speaker 6: sorry about.
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff.
Speaker 6: We get things wrong, but do you give it the policy?
Speaker 6: And then I just you know, that's not the Margaret
Speaker 6: and nor that I know Margaret, don't do that on
Speaker 6: Sunday morning?
Speaker 1: What more did you want from her? Pull a gun,
Speaker 1: shoot fans? I mean, what more did she want from
Speaker 1: the moderators? They were so corrupt And I don't use
Speaker 1: that word lightly. The ABC moderator we're corrupt. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about you could go legally prosecute them. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about something even more important when it comes to journalism.
Speaker 1: You think about that sacred trust. Okay, I mean this
Speaker 1: democracy and the founders envisioned this when they formed the country.
Speaker 2: We have to have an informed electric. People have to
Speaker 2: know the truth.
Speaker 1: So you know, people can make an informed decision on
Speaker 1: how to vote, and however they interpret those facts fine.
Speaker 1: But when you have people who come into journalism and
Speaker 1: they're operating at a high level and they're in a
Speaker 1: position to moderate a presidential debate or VP that may
Speaker 1: decide the outcome of the race, and they decide to
Speaker 1: go in and throw their whole bodies on the scale,
Speaker 1: and they decide to go in and cheat, They decide
Speaker 1: to go in and to try to defeat one of
Speaker 1: the two candidates. That's corruption. That is journalistic corruption. And
Speaker 1: that's what we saw last night. The good news is
Speaker 1: it backfired on them when they did it to Trump,
Speaker 1: and it backfired on them last night because the American
Speaker 1: people are fair people and they saw what was happening.
Speaker 1: And in Vance's case, it allowed to get n A
Speaker 1: plus instead of an A because he did so great
Speaker 1: in the face of three on one A five five
Speaker 1: five A two five five the number. I'll get to
Speaker 1: the phone shortly, but I really want to get some
Speaker 1: of these text in. Let's see Dan, don't be so
Speaker 1: picky walsay and he's friends with school shooters. He meant
Speaker 1: to say victims of school shooters and everybody knows that,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Listen, of course, people know he didn't mean
Speaker 1: to say he's actually friends with school shooters.
Speaker 2: But let me put a little last trick on that.
Speaker 2: I assume he misspoke.
Speaker 1: But Ryan, have you seen today has his camp stated
Speaker 1: that he misspoke.
Speaker 10: I was trying to figure that out earlier myself, Dan
Speaker 10: even listening to it in context, it didn't make sense
Speaker 10: unless he meant he's friends of victims of school shooters.
Speaker 2: But right, I can't really make heads or tails of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I assume he misspoke. I assume every American
Speaker 1: assumes he misspoke. I'm just wondering, though this did his
Speaker 1: camp cannot that he missed. I'll have Kelly looking at
Speaker 1: this because again, and I am not suggesting or assuming
Speaker 1: that he's friends with school shooters, but you look at
Speaker 1: all the bizarrely weird things.
Speaker 2: He has done.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking to see if his camp confirmed he misspoke.
Speaker 1: But assuming as I do, that he misspoke, the point
Speaker 1: is still the same. You know, this isn't like a
Speaker 1: middle school debating society. You know, this is the leader
Speaker 1: of the free world, the person a heartbeat away from
Speaker 1: the leader of the free world. And mental capacity matters,
Speaker 1: and the smartest person in the world can misspeak, right.
Speaker 1: It happens to all of us. It can happen to anybody.
Speaker 1: But the point is he said it. He had no
Speaker 1: awareness that he said it. He didn't remember later that
Speaker 1: he said it. He didn't try to combay, you know,
Speaker 1: And it tied together with other things. It tied together
Speaker 1: with me to me rather with a pattern. That just
Speaker 1: showed that he doesn't have that very high end mental
Speaker 1: capacity that we want in our leaders.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Even if he did, I wouldn't want him because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the right morals, He doesn't have the right principles,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the right ideology. But I think there
Speaker 1: are an awful lot of Americans who who they want
Speaker 1: that mental horsepower. And I think they're not seeing it
Speaker 1: in walls. They're not seeing it in Kamala Harris eight
Speaker 1: five was there? Five eight two five five. Let's bounce
Speaker 1: over to Denver. Talk to Robert.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan caplish. I don't know what Robert
Speaker 2: shove on. How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 13: Good?
Speaker 2: You live in the dream?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 13: Yes, I think it's want to bring your attention. An
Speaker 13: article entitled yes late term abortions and realpen every day.
Speaker 13: It's on the hill and it's try a year ago.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, and it says it says that there's over
Speaker 13: ten thousand abortions every year. Late term abortions, you bet
Speaker 13: dozens of.
Speaker 4: Them every day.
Speaker 13: And you know, then see Davis the moderator at the
Speaker 13: Trump she lied, she lied, And when Trump brought up
Speaker 13: Governor Norten a Virginia and the left office in twenty two,
Speaker 13: she said that.
Speaker 1: May I jump in on this for a second, Robert,
Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right about that. And those stats
Speaker 1: are absolutely verified. There aren't thousands a day, but there's
Speaker 1: about ten thousand a year. And the Democrats, like Walls
Speaker 1: last night, they lie and they deny it's true because
Speaker 1: what they know is that if people knew the truth,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't vote for the Democrats because the Democrats would
Speaker 1: look like monsters, because it is monstrous to do that
Speaker 1: ten thousand times a year. Now, when I say, Lindsay
Speaker 1: Davis lied, that's obviously my opinion, but it was a
Speaker 1: clever lie in this sense. The issue that was being
Speaker 1: discussed obviously pertained the late term abortion, and what she
Speaker 1: threw in as a so called fact check. At the
Speaker 1: end is that it's not legal any we're in America
Speaker 1: to kill the child after the child's born. Now, even that,
Speaker 1: I would argue is false, but certainly the starting point
Speaker 1: is what Democrats always try to deny. Starting point is yes,
Speaker 1: Democrats want it, Democrats fight for it, Democrats get it,
Speaker 1: Democrats put it in law, including Colorado's law, which they're
Speaker 1: now trying to put savagely in the constitution. That yeah,
Speaker 1: they can kill they can kill that child. Mother's dilated,
Speaker 1: she's about to deliver, they can kill that child. Then
Speaker 1: that that is what the law says in eight states
Speaker 1: in America right now, including Colorado. And so now you
Speaker 1: get to the next part, which is, okay, where is
Speaker 1: it legal to kill the child after the child's born. Well,
Speaker 1: the way I look at it is these states that
Speaker 1: have laws that allow the doctor and the mother to
Speaker 1: just leave the child who's been born alive after a
Speaker 1: failed abortion, just leave the child without any aid, flopping
Speaker 1: on the table to die. That's the same as killing
Speaker 1: that child. What's the difference A five five for zero five?
Speaker 1: A two five five the number when we come back
Speaker 1: more sound of lefty heads exploding over Vance's big win.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapler Show.