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Speaker 1: The name of the podcast network is Arrow dot net

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A r r oe dot net. Twenty different podcasts to

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choose from, one of them being missed Opportunity. You know,

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of all of the people that I've shared conversations with,

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what you've never experienced are my missed opportunities. So I've

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gone back and I've re asked the questions, and believe

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it or not, those that missed their chance to share

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a conversation with me are replying missed Opportunity from Arrow

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dot net A r r oe dot net. Enjoy your exploration.

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Speaker 2: Going on Arrow?

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Speaker 1: What's going on with you, mister New York City? Is

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Jazzy's sitting there with you? She was just in here

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a couple of seconds ago. So I'm sure she's walking

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through the house right now going what did he drop

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on the floor? What can I get that he's not watched?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: From one JR?

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Speaker 1: Take it away, Arrow JR. I mean, I'll tell you

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what you make it very tough to start a conversation

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because there're so many different things I want to jump

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into first, and I think the first one that no

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one else is going to talk to you about today

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is that you've gone full circle once starting on a

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show called Arrow and now you're talking to an arrow.

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Ta da, look at that. That's full circle.

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Speaker 2: I love that. That's amazing, dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm what you are doing with It's not like that

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is something that really this is the kind of stuff

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that I why I called today's writing and acting and

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and outreach such the greatest place ever in the history

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of broadcasting because we're so relatable on these programs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, that's one of the that's honestly,

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like it's myself. Then. You know, almost two decades in

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this business, I've done some I've been blessed to stay

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employed and do some incredible work, and you know something

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can work on some incredible stuff and really kind of

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stretch myself. But I don't know, Man, the moment this

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one came around the writing, the moment I read it,

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I was like, man, these characters are just they're just different.

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They feel It felt so put together, it felt so

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flushed out of course, it felt so relatable. And then

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and it wasn't just like Scott's character or Aaron's characters,

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the kids and the bullying and dealing with losing the mom,

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the cancer and like I mean all the avenues of

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just like, man, this is this is different like if this,

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if you know, pour our damn hearts and so into

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this and give this everything we have. We have some

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we got a little lightning in the bottle here regardless

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of what happens. And it's funny because when we finish shooting,

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I was playing golf in a friend of mine is

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just like he was asking me, he asked me something

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about it. I was like, you know, and then I

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don't think I've ever said this, but I can give

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two craps if anyone watches this. I am so proud

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of the show. He's like, I don't think. I don't

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think i've ever heard you say I heard you say that.

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I was like, I just I'm so proud of it. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see, man, you just gave me a flashback

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of the nineteen nineties when my program director said nobody's

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watching saying elsewhere, but damn, it's the best thing I've

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ever seen in my life. And I'm sitting here going,

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oh my god, I can so relate with you right now, dude,

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because it doesn't matter. It's brilliant, and you know what,

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thirty years from now, they're going to be watching because

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it has a way of making its way back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly, and.

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Speaker 1: To fall into that writing because I mean, first of all,

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to be able to write like that and for someone

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like yourself to step into that role, they've got to

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make that bridge a bridge and not a wall. That

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you've got to sit there and say, I don't know

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if the hell they're talking about. All right, I'll go

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with it. But how is it that you're making you

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know that you say that, well, you know, at least

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I'm staying in play. But the fact of the matter is,

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I never feel like that you're doing a job. I

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feel like that you're actually doing what you're doing, that

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you've lived this.

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Speaker 2: God, bless you man, Thank you so much. Yeah, you know,

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too that gave me such that the character has such

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a beginning, middle, and end. David really has a lot

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going on. When I first read it, I'm like, ooh,

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it's kind of the antagonist, and right away I created

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like there is no villains in this story. I was like,

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all right, well, I just touched a nerve. But I

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was like, uh no, I get it. I get it,

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and He's right at the end of the day, this

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is just a darn good man who is flawed, like

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we all are, just trying to figure himself out of

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trying to find clarity who then trying to be in

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a good dad and making mistakes and separating the family

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and again so many things. My parents got divorced when

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bug and I left to La and like, and it

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was really interesting for me to kind of be like,

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this is God really putting this in front of me

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in a way that like, now I get to kind

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of play the other side of it, you know, I

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and like, and I just there's so many aspects of this,

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from that to the alcoholism, which I didn't sleep for

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like two weeks. This last episode was like it was

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playing drunk for me is one of the hardest things

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an actor can do. And like, I went back to

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an old acting coach. I mean, I didn't sleep for

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two weeks. I gave it everything I had because I

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really just wanted to. It's a lot of responsibility, man,

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and I really put that one on my shoulders and

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I was like, I'm not gonna I'm going to do

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the best I can do and we'll see what happens.

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But like, I'm going to give this one everything I got.

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I mean, there's just so much beautiful storytelling in this

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But I'll come back around as saying the create the

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creativity and the collaborativeness that these creators have allowed us

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to have, from allowing me from calling me and being like, hey,

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what's a Cuban food? We made him Cuban? So what's

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the food that your parents love? You need? You know, everything, Like,

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there's so much often there's so much authenticity and collaborativeness

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in this show, and I think that that makes it

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so easy for us to just trust them and and

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just jump off the cliffs because that's all you have

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with JR. Ramerez coming

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up next the name of the show. It's not like

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that on Prime video. We are back with JR. Ramerez.

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You gotta be honest with me here when it comes

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to you're talking about collaborations, all right. When you're sitting

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at home and Freddy is sitting right there in front

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of you, do you run the lines by Freddie.

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Speaker 2: I got my lab right now.

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Speaker 1: See see what I'm saying, that's my lab.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about that. We were talking about that

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ritter before you came on. He was saying, this is

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another dog lover you're about to speak to. Yeah, he's

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literally I'm outside right now on my porch. I have

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the door open so he can go outside and hang out.

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He loves the son. And this little dude is on

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my lap right now. He's just it's uh, you know,

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they're just the best, man, They're.

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Speaker 1: There are the best, because I mean, there's so much

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that goes on when it comes to bringing a production

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like this to life, and and there are many times

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I will sit there and just stare at the credits

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because I want even the grip to get credit. I

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want someone to say, Johnny Bulaski, oh my god, I

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didn't realize he was the grip for this one. Because

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you're right, it takes an entire team to make this happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Man, There's so many people, and it

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can't happen without everybody, you know. That's why. You know,

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I've had my moments of of kind of going into

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certain people I've worked with before and then just kind

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of yelling at them in the sense of being like

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this we're not we get to play for a living.

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Guys like we like don't like anyone who takes himself

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so seriously, you know, just like gets me so mad.

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I'm like, what we get to do is such a

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darn blessing. And there's so many people. I've seen people,

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you know, I've seen actors, three pas badly, these pas

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are working their butts off. They're the first one's there,

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they are the last ones to leave. They don't make

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any money, And I'm like, what, like, have some self respect, man,

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have some like this is a humans who's doing everything

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they can do to cater to your dark needs while

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you sit here and get to play for a living.

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we are nothing without without you know, this is a

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collaborative art form and it's from the top to the bottom,

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you know, like you said, from a grip to a light,

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to lightning to the person that lights the stage, to everybody, like,

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we can't do this without everyone. And honestly, we had

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like the most incredible team he had. Touch again, they

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did such an incredible job bringing bringing people together, just

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like from our UPN. Who's the one who's like our

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line manager's the one who's got to save money. Most

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of them are kind of tough. The guy was in Dured.

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This guy, this guy was a dread. Here's the cool

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CUPN I've ever had. Like, I mean, they did such

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a great job bringing an incredible team together of just

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Speaker 1: Well, to me, it all goes back to what we've

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all experienced in life and now the higher energy is

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using the good and the bad moments to create even

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a stronger team and Toda here you guys are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's one of the way that works. Wow.

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do you run into those situations where somebody will give

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you a quote and you have to say, uh, that

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was my character, that's not JR. Because I run into

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I go you know that was Arrow that said that.

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The other guy in me he's not such the actor.

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But what we can run with it if you want

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to do you run into those walls, you know what?

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people come up to me and like excuse me and

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syndrome in the planet. I'm very hard on myself and uh,

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I don't know if I'll ever go away. And there's

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a sense of it that could be healthy and keep

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me motivated and pushing forward to be better. But I uh, yeah,

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I you know, sometimes I forget the impact of what

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we are doing and the impact I could have on people,

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and I'm manifest. I have this lady who I don't

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really ever reach, you know, I don't engage with people

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socially like that. But this lady kept reaching out to

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me and sending me pictures and she was going through

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to stage four cancer and were able to beat it

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and like and and and it was just like and

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she continued to send me all these videos of watching

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our show and how it like literally inspired her to

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want to push forward and like on these crazy dark

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days and I'm like, this is incredible, man, this is

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this is this is like we I never think about

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the impact of what I love what I do, But

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I never think about I never take a step step

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back and just think about, like an that the impact

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I can have with somebody. Right now, I had someone

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writing me this beautif thing this morning. You know that

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they're you know, they've been going through years of alcoholism

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and trying to get over it and you know, ruined

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the marriage and trying to be a good father. And

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they watched the episode and they had all these incredible words,

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and I'm like, that's that's that is. That is more

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rewarding than like, I mean, it's hard to put into words,

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you know, so cool what we get to do.

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Speaker 1: That is the kind of stuff where I feel inside

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my soul that your image then when it comes up

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on a photo, it may not be associated with it's

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not like that, but we see a photo of you

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and we're going to think of that show. That's that's

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where you are with this show. And the impact that

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this show is going to have growing forward is that

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we're just going to see an image. We're going to

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know exactly where we were, and it's going to go.

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Do you remember that episode when we were watching this

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and blah blah blah blah and people are gonna say, God, Gang,

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I was there, I could feel what they were trying

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to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope, so, man, I really hope. So we're

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really proud of this, and I hope in your words

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of God's are you know?

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Speaker 1: Is that odd as an actor because I know that

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many musicians will always tell me they'll go, you know,

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I'm not shooting for the hits because I don't want

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you to count my swings, and I'm going I totally

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get that. But but when you've got something like it's

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not like that, it's like there's no swinging going on,

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You're hitting that damn ball.

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Speaker 2: You never know, bro, you just you know, you know

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how it goes. It's probably the same with you guys

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over there, like you just never know what what people

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are going to connect to, and you know what, you

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just never know. You just really you really just never know.

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So I try to just at the end of the day.

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was golf and I was like, I don't care who watches,

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obviously I do. I would love to do this, you know,

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I would love to do this show for the next

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you know, five years of my life. These people are incredible,

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and I can only imagine how far like where the

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story can go with these incredible creators and collaborative creators.

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I wish we had to go off in the next

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five years, but you just never really just don't know

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what people are going to connect to. But I like

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you said something that I really feel like the show's

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going to live on for a long time. And I

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think that because it's so beautifully done, and it's done

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in a way that is just it. There's so many

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relatable storylines. I really think that this show's going to

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live on for a long time. I really do.

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Speaker 1: Well, look at the way that you're putting yourself into

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it through that writing and through everything around you, because

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you deal with uncomfortable subjects, because you know every one

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of us on this side of the flat screen. We

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may have to say that my wife is dead, and

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it's like you've dealt with it already. How did you

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deal with it?

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Speaker 2: What did we do?

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Speaker 1: How can we grow from it? How can I come

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back to it? How can I learn from it? How

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can I get back to that episode. That's what I

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love about about streaming today is I can go back

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to an episode where somebody has faced a situation and

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I can grow from.

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Speaker 2: It yep, yeah, and watch a specific moment that specifically

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speaks to you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah. So now does this qualify as a

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rom com or is that just a movie thing? Because

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I mean it's got that, you know, that edge to

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it that makes you go, God danged, I'm entertained as

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well as informed with this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll write a funny attack man. And they're so

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clever and Aaron's obviously comes from a comedic Aeron comes

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from a comedic background, so it's her timing is awesome.

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Scott Foley is a sleeper. He is he is. He

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is a quick witted son of a gun. He is.

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He is very witty and he's very smart, and he's

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been doing this for a very long time. And uh,

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you know, I yeah, it's it's got a little bit

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of everything I can tell you. See. As hopefully the

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Can Show continues to progress and we'll have a couple

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more seasons hopefully to be able to continue to tell

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this incredible story. Uh, there'll be a lot more comedic

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moments thrown in there for sure, because Ian and Christen

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are they're so good at that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when someone calls you a passionate perfectionist.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I have faced that with more operations managers, and they

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always tell me you got to put away mister perfectionist

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because it's costing me flow. And this is about cash flow.

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What happens when you do earn that label of a

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of a passionate perfectionists? Do you kind of stand up

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straight or you go, okay, how can we work this out?

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So you understand where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 2: You know. And for me and my work, as long

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as I corellas in my golf game, as long as

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I am allowed to, as long as I'm allowed to

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get out of my own way and I do my work. Yeah, sure,

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I've got to learn to be gentle. Jr. Needs to

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be more gentle with himself and pat himself more on

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the back. Sure, you know. But as long as I

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do my work, and as long as I get and

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we get to that moment of time where we are,

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you know, in the battlefield together, and I quiet my

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mind and I put my focus on you and I

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go do what I need to do, then I'll stand

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up with my shoulders where they need to be, you know,

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Because like as long as I'm present and I'm there

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and I'm learning, and I'm throwing myself off that cliff,

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allowing myself to follow my face as I do so

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many times. Then we're good, you know, because that just

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equates the growth for me. And and that's all I can,

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you know, that's all I want in this in this

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this one only chapter we have on this you know,

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on this planet. So hey.

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Speaker 1: So that that inspires me so much because I just

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did a thing on iHeartRadio this morning where I go

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the things that we post on social media, if we

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didn't know who we were as a person and we

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came across it, would we inspire us inspire ourselves? I

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think that you would inspire yourself because you do go

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through things, you do say things, you do, have these roles,

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and I'm going, he's got to be inspired by these

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other people's writing in order to become a stronger walker forward.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It's one hundred percent. I mean for us,

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like it starts, I know, we starts. We've got a

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couple times, a couple of things right now that we're

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working on right now on my production side, but that

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we're trying to get off the ground, and like it's

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like it starts with the writing. It really starts in

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It starts on the page. It starts on the page.

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No matter how visionary you are as a director, how

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incredible you are as a storyteller, being after whatever, maybe

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it starts on that page. You know, so one percent

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were nothing about that.

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Speaker 1: So then let me ask you this question. And only

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because I've been invited to share lectures at different schools

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and stuff, because I am so pro writing first, and

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teachers will go, no, we got to teach them to

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read first. I'm good. I'm not thinking that's the way

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to go, because if we're not writing, we're not reading.

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I mean because I mean, because I mean, who are

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who's going to feed those lines to you if they

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haven't written them first? What comes first? The chicken or

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the egg?

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? I mean, it's it's it's it's as it's

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factual as we can get my brother like, it starts,

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it starts on the page.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever have one of those relatable moments on

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it's not like that and go at give me five minutes. WHOA,

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I've got to deal with this, I've experienced this. I

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can give you more if you just give me five

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minutes to put it together.

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Speaker 2: Well, not really bad to be awes with you, because

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we again Ean and Christian had everything in Garrett had

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everything ready to go way beforehand, so we were able

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to get a material way beforehand, which is a blessing.

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Uh because I've had pages, I've had ten pages come

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in the night before or the morning of sometimes, you know,

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and it's crazy as business, but uh, yeah, we had

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so much time to kind of be able to dissect

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these words, dissect these humans, understand what they want, understand

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what their obstacles are, at least think that we know,

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and then we get them because you know, you can

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prepare all you want and then you get on, you

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get on, you know, you get in the battlefield and

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Aaron will throw something my way and I'm like, in

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the middle of the damn scene, I'm like I have

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a revelation. I'm like, oh, that's what I meant. Come

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we go down, Let's go get And they're like, you're

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not even done with the dunk KAMD, what are you doing.

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I'm like, no, let's go get, let's go good. You know.

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So it's just like, yeah, you know, it's it's we

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were again even that we were very blessed with we

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had the words way beforehand, so I was able to

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kind of really let him have too many of those moments.

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Speaker 1: How do you get in the car and shake that off?

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I couldn't do that. I would have to go home

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and vocal def I would have to sit there and

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break it down and say, what did you learn from this?

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How are we going to grow from this? There's got

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to be a message here. I mean, how are you

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just shaking that off?

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Speaker 2: Or are you? Oh, buddy, I go home and beat

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myself up every day. You don't want to ask, You

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don't want to ask. You don't want to ask. You

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should you should have? You should ask my fiance that question.

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I go home every day I'm like, did I did

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they call there? She's like, you're not getting fired? You

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freaking draw my queen? What's wrong with you? Like? Are

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they fire gonna fire me? Are they gonna fire me?

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I said the word? I said a word in Spanish

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instead of English, like are they gonna fire? I'm the worst?

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I'm the I'm the absolute worst.

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Speaker 1: I mean, where could people go to find out more

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about you? Because you have had a major league presence?

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Speaker 2: No? Well, blessing man? Yeah, man, I mean We've got

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this show going on right now. I have a film

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coming out next year, my first all Spanish film called

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The Mouth of the Furnace. Uh. Well, I'm very proud

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of and it's very kissing from Uh it's not like that.

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It's a it's a it's a little it's like a

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our fantasy class horror that I've never done before. But

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it's it's a story within a story, kind of like Thinner,

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like you know, about this father who's trying to get

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his he's trying to do good and get his kid

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out of this mining town. Stayed on this kind of

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true folk Columbian folklore, and there's he's a miner and

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it's a very dangerous business and it's a very real

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thing that's happening in Columbia right now. And it's this

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beautiful story with this incredible director who's a baby. He's

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twenty seven years old. But the guy is you know,

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he's he was named a variety he named him up

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and coming director to keep an eye on, like the

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guy with the Guy of the Beast. And I'm super

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I'm super proud of it. I'm super nervous. I really

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stressed myself. I've never done a whole dayn thing in

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Spanish and yeah, man, so anyways, I got that coming

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out next year and then you know, you know, hopefully

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blessed enough to so hopefully blest enough to keep telling

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this this current story we're doing right now. But it's

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not like that, and I have a good feeling about,

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you know, it continuing and social is a jail or

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eight ramires socially, and.

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Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future.

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The door is always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: You've had lovely energy. Man, I really appreciate you taking

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the time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, sir, thank you about

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enjoy your talk too, Man, thanks you for your pos