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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Later with Mo Kelly and Jackie Ray as

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<v Speaker 2>we go beyond the box score. We're live everywhere in

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<v Speaker 2>the iHeartRadio app and Jackie Ray. I loved past tense.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved the NBA. It's my favorite professional sports league.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I realize that it's not the same league

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<v Speaker 2>that I had originally fallen in love with. And there

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<v Speaker 2>is different reasons for different people. But for me, the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA product is less than what it was five ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, with just all the three point shots, the

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<v Speaker 2>laisse fair attitudes about defense and conceding rebounds. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>jack up a three and you just start running down

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<v Speaker 2>the other way. You're not actually following your shot. Just

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<v Speaker 2>basic basketball. And we know that the All Star Game

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<v Speaker 2>has also suffered because the players who are coming to

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<v Speaker 2>the All Star Games were not trying hard. The dunk contest,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it, it was tired. It was old in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of nothing was really new.

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<v Speaker 3>It was more stunts than actual dunks.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your read of the NBA coming into this

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<v Speaker 2>All Star weekend?

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<v Speaker 5>Not good?

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<v Speaker 4>And that kind of summarizes everything I don't know. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>traditionally as journalists, this is something that we try to

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<v Speaker 4>get credentials to. It's one of those most sought after

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<v Speaker 4>credentials go to the All Star weekend, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even think about it. I had no aside from seeing Lebron,

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<v Speaker 4>who I also now have a bone to pick with,

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<v Speaker 4>but aside from seeing him, this the game itself, to

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<v Speaker 4>your point, has just devolved so much. And so when

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<v Speaker 4>you're when you're talking about a game that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>the big moments, we just we don't talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>big dunks anymore. Yeah, we'll talk about it from job,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's in a game where it's just I call

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<v Speaker 4>it running tennis.

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<v Speaker 5>Now while we're doing is running tennis.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't really have that player that you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to, to your point, to say, oh, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do this big dunk in the game, or you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get this McKim bate, the Kim Bae Mtumbo big Black

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<v Speaker 4>in the game, because nobody's doing that, nobody's playing defense

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It all just the league, just the league.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't have that player that you want to

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<v Speaker 4>see because you know no one's going to be full

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<v Speaker 4>speed in the game, but you just don't have these

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<v Speaker 4>players that you're looking forward to. At best, you can

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<v Speaker 4>look forward to Steph hitting a crazy three, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>he's about to age out now, he's not the same.

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<v Speaker 4>And to be fair, I still blame Steph for a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of this running tennis that we're getting in basketball

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame him.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, because people wanted to be like Mike

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day, true and Steph playing he is

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<v Speaker 2>an anomaly. There is no there's been no one like

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<v Speaker 2>him ever, you know, shooting logo threes. They coined that

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<v Speaker 2>term because of him. He would pull up on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of half court and unfortunately a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people have tried to emulate him.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not going to blame him for being the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody does. That's fair, my bad stuff. I'll take it back.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you're talking about the All Star Game, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's an interesting time for me because I

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<v Speaker 4>cover the WNBA as well. I do think if Caitlin

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<v Speaker 4>Clark had agreed to doing this three point challenge with

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<v Speaker 4>Steph and with Sabrina and Escu, that would have really

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<v Speaker 4>brought another influx of fans agreed, but because it didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be completely honest.

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<v Speaker 5>I forgot. I forgot it was even happening.

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<v Speaker 4>And then my phone goes off and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>and I watched it, but it's this afterthought, like I

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<v Speaker 4>was literally working and not focus on the game because

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<v Speaker 4>it's just not exciting. And the dunks. To your point,

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<v Speaker 4>when are you going to jump over a car in

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<v Speaker 4>a game? When is that gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You think a dunk is an adjunct of basketball, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Jumping over a car is not connected to basketball. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a stunt, which is different from a dunk.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you can still do a stunt like jumping over shack.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that's cool because somebody is talking.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've seen Vince Carter jump over someone in a game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, this is what I'm saying, So you can imagine

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<v Speaker 4>that one day this person can do this. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the world is getting crazy, but I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to get crazy enough that we'll see a car

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<v Speaker 4>on a basketball court.

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<v Speaker 2>I know why the NBA was trying to spice up

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>They had lagging ratings and.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's be honest, the All Star weekend is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest weekends for the sport. It's it's the

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<v Speaker 2>crown jewel as far as all star events, Bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>obviously NHL, bigger than the NFL Pro Bowl, bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>a Major League Baseball All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand why the NBA wanted to save it.

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<v Speaker 3>This was just not it.

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<v Speaker 2>And for those who don't know, they broke it down

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<v Speaker 2>where they had the rising stars, the rookies and like

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<v Speaker 2>sophomore players fielding a team, and they had a team

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<v Speaker 2>called the Ogs, which was just older players, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they had the international players team. They played a four

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<v Speaker 2>team tournament on one day, and.

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<v Speaker 5>They had six and forty two commercials.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only that, Not only that, the whole production couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>figure out whether it wanted to be a rap concert

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<v Speaker 2>or a Kevin Hart comedy show who was very unfunny,

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<v Speaker 2>or if it was going to be a basketball exhibition,

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<v Speaker 2>and they tried to please everyone and ended up pleasing

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<v Speaker 2>no one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the saying, right, you can please some of the

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<v Speaker 4>people some of the time, but you can't please everybody

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<v Speaker 4>all of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they got nobody none of the time. This weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>How this relates to our viewing habits. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to I think it's a statement on how you

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<v Speaker 2>just can't throw everything at the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>We are still discriminating viewers. And I think the brand

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<v Speaker 3>was damage. I believe it without being hyperbolic.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this is the age of social media.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what we saw with the All Star weekend

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<v Speaker 4>was and it also might be the lack of older,

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<v Speaker 4>wiser voices in a room, because what it looked like

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<v Speaker 4>to me is you saw a bunch of young people

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<v Speaker 4>who spend all day scrolling on Instagram, TikTok or x saying.

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<v Speaker 5>This will be a good idea. At the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they don't need to have an actual dedicated basketball

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<v Speaker 2>game to showcase the talent.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just have four short basketball games to forty.

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<v Speaker 2>In this TikTok Instagram limited attention span world.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So, now, when you go, if you didn't watch the

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<v Speaker 4>All Star Game and you're scrolling through social media from

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<v Speaker 4>the thirty second clips you're seeing, you're like, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what it was?

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<v Speaker 5>Not amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't let those thirty second clips fool you, but

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<v Speaker 4>this is my thought process. I really think it was

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<v Speaker 4>just a bunch of people who were born and raised

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<v Speaker 4>in the social media era era, and they figured they

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<v Speaker 4>could make an NBA All Star Weekend based on that,

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<v Speaker 4>and it failed miserably.

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<v Speaker 2>I can appreciate the greatness of Lebron James, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>also heard a lot about the selfishness of Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James was named to his twenty first All Star

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<v Speaker 2>Game and he did not play. If you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, when a player does not play, if they

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that soon enough, then some other player can get

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<v Speaker 2>the chance to play the All Star Game, maybe someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Devin Booker who was not there, someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>up and coming, a rising star. I can't remember all

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<v Speaker 2>the players who weren't selected, but Lebron James was having

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<v Speaker 2>ankle issues prior to the All Star Break. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>reason that he was going to play at the All

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<v Speaker 2>Star Break during the All Star Game when he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play the two prior games coming up to the All

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<v Speaker 2>Star breaks. In other words, everyone knew that he was

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<v Speaker 2>not going to play, and then he didn't announce it

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<v Speaker 2>until maybe an hour before the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, shout out to Devin Booker.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he would have been a great replacement, But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more concerned about the people who paid one thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars to sit in the nosebleeds specifically to see Lebron.

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<v Speaker 4>They could have scout those tickets, they could have sold

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<v Speaker 4>them to other people. And unfortunately, we do not live

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<v Speaker 4>in an economy and I don't know when we will

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<v Speaker 4>ever live in an economy where you can just throw

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<v Speaker 4>away a thousand dollars like that. People probably saved up

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<v Speaker 4>for that, and I think that this is another problem

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<v Speaker 4>with the NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the NBA, we've talked about this too.

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<v Speaker 4>They're focused more on their financial partners as far as

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<v Speaker 4>people who advertise with them, than they are with the fans,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's failing. But we've also seen when we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the Phoenix Sun complete opposite. They've lowered the prices

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<v Speaker 4>of food in the stands, they can home teams, they

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<v Speaker 4>can watch that on TV for free. This is the opposite,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've seen, Yes, they're taking a loss right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but they've seen an influx in season ticket holders. They've

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<v Speaker 4>sold out every single game since then. Merchandise sales are up,

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<v Speaker 4>so in the long term they're going to probably double

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<v Speaker 4>in that, but that's because they are focused on the fans,

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<v Speaker 4>but the NBA as a whole is focused on their

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<v Speaker 4>advertising partners, and that's why the game is suffering.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's something else to consider now that their broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>partners are changing. If you've watched they All Star Weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>you knew that this was the last year which T

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<v Speaker 2>and T right was going to be hosting it, and

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<v Speaker 2>T and T the conception of the NBA is very

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<v Speaker 2>closely aligned with T and T, with Shaq, Kenny, Ernie

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<v Speaker 2>and Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>Inside the NBA, it's a crown jewel of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly, they're supposed to carry that show over to the

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<v Speaker 2>NBC networks, but I don't know if it will feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. In other words, before we go to break,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's something else which is going to diminish

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<v Speaker 2>the overall standing of the.

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<v Speaker 4>League absolutely, because that's another thing. If you're a diehard

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<v Speaker 4>NBA fan, you like the commentators, you stick around for

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<v Speaker 4>the halftime show, your personality is exactly it's part of

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<v Speaker 4>the show. And I guess in closing, I would like

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<v Speaker 4>to say, NBA, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to fix it now because you broke it.

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<v Speaker 4>But think about what it was before, revisit that, and

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<v Speaker 4>then don't break it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's something else that the NBA needs to fix,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least help make sure that they can avoid

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<v Speaker 2>more bad press, because when we come back, we want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you about an NBA coach assistant who's arrested

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<v Speaker 2>after allegedly pistol whipping his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Still going to Beyond the box Score. We're live everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>The Dallas Mavericks have been in the news a lot lately,

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<v Speaker 2>for I would say a controversial and unexpected trade with

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers sending Luka Doncic to the Lakers, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers sending Anthony Davis to the Dallas Mavericks, who immediately

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<v Speaker 2>got injured in the first game and maybe out for

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<v Speaker 2>like months. Right, there's that, and now there's this. Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>Mavericks assistant coach DARRYL Armstrong was arrested after allegedly pistol

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<v Speaker 2>whipping his girlfriend with a gun. I think, or I'm

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<v Speaker 2>of the opinion that after a certain age, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to avoid certain controversies. You should be mature

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<v Speaker 2>enough to not get your ass in certain types of trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The incident occurred around three forty five am after an argument,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, according to an arrest warrant after David, the

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<v Speaker 2>confrontation began when Armstrong's girlfriend saw a message from another

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<v Speaker 2>woman on his phone, sparking a dispute. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a story that a lot of people know about, have

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<v Speaker 2>been through.

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<v Speaker 3>We all have something to say about.

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<v Speaker 2>Either we were the person who was cheating or the

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<v Speaker 2>person who whiting on. It's all the message, so we

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<v Speaker 2>all can personally identify to the emotions likely involved. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly intoxicated, of course. And and Daryl Armstrong, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>he had like a fourteen year NBA career. He's older

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<v Speaker 2>than me. He's fifty six years old. He's old enough

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<v Speaker 2>not to be in this type of stuff. He demanded

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<v Speaker 2>her apartment key. In other words, he's kicking her out

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't have access. Give me my keyback. Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point during the exchange, allegedly entered the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>struck the victim on the right side of her face

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<v Speaker 2>with a pistol and threatened to shoot her after loading

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<v Speaker 2>the gun.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he was drunk, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Nowhere, at no time, at no point, was there any

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<v Speaker 2>voice in his head saying, dol you were an NBA

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<v Speaker 2>assistant coach. There is no way, in any scenario that

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<v Speaker 2>this story is not going to end with you fired

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<v Speaker 2>or also in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when you are a narcissist, those kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts don't enter your head. And I'm going to very

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<v Speaker 4>confidently assume that mister Armstrong is a narcissist for a

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<v Speaker 4>few reasons. Number One, when your girlfriend asks you about

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<v Speaker 4>another girl on your phone and you don't take accountability

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<v Speaker 4>and you ask her for her key again, narcissist red flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, So I can't argue with that.

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<v Speaker 5>And then.

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<v Speaker 4>For you to all of a sudden take this stance

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<v Speaker 4>with her, there's a level of disconnect between who you

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<v Speaker 4>are and the reality that you actually live in you

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<v Speaker 4>feel entitled to treat her this way. And please understand

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<v Speaker 4>when I say the following that I'm not victim blaming

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<v Speaker 4>in any way. But throughout the course of my life,

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<v Speaker 4>I have worked with several women who are in these

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<v Speaker 4>domestic violent situations. And while this has been reported. This

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<v Speaker 4>is not the first time this has happened. No, this

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<v Speaker 4>is not the first time that has happened, probably to her.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not the first time that Daryl Armstrong has

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<v Speaker 4>pulled out his gun on someone, most likely a woman exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>and the advancement of the threat. And like my dad

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<v Speaker 4>has always taught me, people treat you the way you

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<v Speaker 4>allow them to treat you. So if he felt entitled

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<v Speaker 4>to treat her this way, he has gotten away with

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<v Speaker 4>this at least a few times before. So and again

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<v Speaker 4>this is not victim blaming. This is just understanding that again, people,

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<v Speaker 4>when they don't have consequences, their actions tend to escalate.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to assume that it might have started small,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is escalated to this point. And the narcissism

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<v Speaker 4>is just obvious to me because to your point, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to say that I've never wanted to punch

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<v Speaker 4>anyone in the face, but I have too much to lose, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>too much to lose, and I know his salary is

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<v Speaker 4>higher than mine. So how does that lightbulb, How does

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<v Speaker 4>that not go off in your head? I don't understand

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<v Speaker 4>that this.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have had obvious a much worse ending, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to assume that the gun was loaded. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>make that assumption because I don't think that he's just

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<v Speaker 2>waving around and unloaded gun.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't put this way.

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<v Speaker 2>He was obviously intoxicated, so there's no reason for me

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that he made the conscious decision to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that it was unloaded. And there wasn't a bullet

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<v Speaker 2>in the chamber, right, So I'm gonna assume that it

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<v Speaker 2>was loaded. I just don't understand after a certain age. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand people make mistakes. Yes, people are cracked vessels

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<v Speaker 2>that they fall short. But you're fifty six years old.

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<v Speaker 5>Dog can't fall that short. Yes, you just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>At some point you gotta leave that stuff alone. Ye,

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<v Speaker 3>she's mad.

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<v Speaker 5>She's mad, and I think now this.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the charges are gonna be, but

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<v Speaker 4>I hope the charges are severe, and I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 4>you why because I'm a big proponent of guns, but

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<v Speaker 4>I also believe in gun safety. And if your emotions

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<v Speaker 4>can get a hold of you to the point where

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<v Speaker 4>you can't grab the gun, sir, you should never have

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<v Speaker 4>a gun ever again in life, and you should face

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<v Speaker 4>very serious criminal consequences for this incident.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's my hope, because it could have gone very

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<v Speaker 2>easily right, become deadly over a domestic dispute. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying he was right or wrong as far as their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying how he responded to it was very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 2>He picked up the gun when he was obviously knowingly drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that scarce the but Jesus out of me, This is.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So, your emotions got the best to you, the alcohol

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<v Speaker 4>got the best to you, and then someone that you're

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<v Speaker 4>in a relationship with, your first mode of action was

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<v Speaker 4>to grab a gun. Gun Listen, even like I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it was loaded. But even if it wasn't,

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<v Speaker 4>she probably believed it was. So what who You're not

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<v Speaker 4>in your right mind. You should never have a firearm

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<v Speaker 4>in the house ever again. And the entitlement to pull

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<v Speaker 4>it in this situation is just mind boggling to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me close with this, I'm wondering what the Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>Mavericks are going to do. I hope that they respond swiftly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>still probably say we're not going to comment on a

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<v Speaker 2>pending investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna wait, all the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>About yeah, yeah, yeah, blah blah blah, But there have

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<v Speaker 2>to be swift consequences when the time comes, and there

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<v Speaker 2>have to be thorough consequences.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, and I've been a big fan of teams

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<v Speaker 4>allowing things to play out through the legal system. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's the stances they're going to take, like we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna wait, We're going to cooperate with authorities. And while

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<v Speaker 4>that is my stance, I do think that there's some

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<v Speaker 4>instances when you have to judge the content of that

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<v Speaker 4>person's character. I think this is one of those instances.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also think that if that is your position

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<v Speaker 4>as an organization, you have to stick to that no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what. So I'm gonna be fascinated to see what

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<v Speaker 4>they do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there's what they say publicly and there's also what

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<v Speaker 2>they know privately. I don't believe that the Dallas Mavericks

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<v Speaker 2>have only had this one publicized incident with Darryl Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's doing this, there are probably some other things.

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<v Speaker 2>I always talk about the roach theory. If this is

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<v Speaker 2>not the first time he's pistol whipped someone or done

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<v Speaker 2>something which could have brought infamy to the Dallas Mavericks Organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't believe that because his judgment is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>not all that all that good.

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<v Speaker 4>There's been a woman that they know something happened to

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<v Speaker 4>and she's like, well, i'll go away for this amount.

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<v Speaker 4>I would bet my last dollar that's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking that bet because you're probably right, Jackie Rate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always good to see you.

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<v Speaker 5>Great to be here.

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