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Speaker 1: What's up, besties, it's your mother. I am so excited

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to see you. I've missed you. I love you all

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of the good things. If if you want to come

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see me on the road, please do I don't know

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when this episode is going to come out because I'm

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not an adult and I don't have a plan, But

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those with her DM me. If you have any questions,

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I would love to see you on the road. We

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are going to get right into this episode with my friend, comedian, podcaster,

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all around psychopath Gabby Lamb. I hope you guys enjoyed

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this as much as I did.

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Speaker 2: What meds are you on these days?

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Speaker 3: Are we rolling?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what meds my on these days?

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I'm on lexapro Oh do okay? God to take it

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last night. I forgot to take it today.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any on you?

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm no, That's why I started question.

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Speaker 3: Do you get the brains apps when you miss it? No?

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Speaker 1: Not if I miss it for a day. If I

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miss it for like three.

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Speaker 3: Days, mine sets in like immediately.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I don't get the brains apps, but

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I just don't want to be depressed today. And I

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was like driving over the hill and I was just like,

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Gabby's probably got lexapro.

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Speaker 3: Not all me. Damn, I know. Sorry. How many milligrams

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are you on?

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Speaker 2: Five?

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Speaker 3: Baby?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to go up. I'm on ten.

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Speaker 1: But I'd like to never feel your clit again.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to never feel like it's like I already

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know what it feels like. I don't need too.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly, feeling my clit didn't help me not want

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to kill myself. So it's like, yeah, I just i'd

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rather just have like a jackhammer.

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Speaker 4: For a vibrator. Then fine, yeah, it's fine. Yeah, So

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you're on like the pro and what else. We're on lexapro.

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We as in my all of my personalities. So we've

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got lexapro ten milligrams. Would like to up it, Gaba

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penan at night, would like.

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Speaker 3: To get off of it. Don't feel like going through withdrawals,

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so stand penton.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that just for anxiety?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: If you up the le Supper.

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Speaker 1: You should be fine because lex supress for anxiety and depression.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's on Gaba Penon.

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Speaker 3: A lot of animals are yeah, A lot of my

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cats have it too. Oh okay, so yeah we're on

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Gabba Pensen.

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Speaker 1: Remember when you did a gofund me for your cats

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and then you got lip filler.

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Speaker 3: No, I got used it for my cats. I would

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never do. You are trying to drag my pussy through

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the fucking mud, dude. I would never I rebuke that.

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I remember I got Oh my god, I.

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Speaker 2: Got so okay. I'm not saying you actually did it,

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but you did get smoked. Dude, got smody man.

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Speaker 1: So many people were like, did she just started GoFundMe

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for her cats and then go get new lips?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, well, well maybe it was happening behind

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your bag.

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Speaker 3: People were saying it must have been because I, uh, yeah,

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my cat got fucked up and I got it was

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britt I guess, dude.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 3: People were so sympathetic. They were like, oh my god,

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miss p miss p that was the worst time. But

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I did not get lip filler with it. I use

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it to pay off all of the stupid vet bills

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which were so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the vets don't give you room to save the money.

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Speaker 1: You know, they really don't give a fuck. They're like,

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if your animal's dying, here, it's ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was all of the money I got immediately had

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to just go to her. Yeah, and it was fine.

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Speaker 1: How's she doing. It's great keeping you up at night?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, she lost her voice after all of that,

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but she's fine, so nice. It's cute when she mews.

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It's like that she goes, she opens her rothin. Just

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that's for mew.

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Speaker 2: So we can cut that. We don't have to put that.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: No, I like that, because you know what, maybe if

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I didn't use all that money to get lip filler,

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she'd have her meal back.

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Speaker 1: If you shouldn't let her get some blip filler, I

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should get her lip filler, she'd get miss peace.

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Speaker 3: They are looking a little thin, they are looking a

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little thin. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, remember when I did this

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podcast before I had any followers, during the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were my first guest.

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Speaker 3: I was so exciting, and we were like very new.

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Speaker 2: Friends, brand new.

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Speaker 1: I had just met you and you came over and

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you were like hung over from New Year's Eve because

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you started in the New Year, you were hungover from

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New Year's Eve still, and you had been doing Molly

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the whole night before. And I saw it. Yeah, and

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I saw that video recently and I was like, damn.

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Speaker 2: You look so good.

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Speaker 1: Like your glow up from that moment to this one

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has been unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I wish we had I wish we had it to

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drop in.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I remember you're on the couch like this

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and your like skin.

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Speaker 3: Is gray, My skin's gray.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, you might need to get sober,

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and you're like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And then like a few days later, you did yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did we okay? Because we did that, And then I

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was on your your podcast, your last podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, were almost got us.

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Speaker 2: We always lest our sponsors.

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Speaker 3: Because okay, are your listeners now? Like most of them,

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Speaker 1: Some of them came from that, and I think some

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of them are new. I think a lot of them

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dropped off because a lot of them were there for

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the duo.

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Speaker 3: Right, and that is what happens when you have a

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duo podcast. Yeahic sides and then it just doesn't ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even that. I think there's something different

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about like the chemistry of a two people bantering rather

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than just like me screaming into the ether. Yeah, it's

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a different thing. Like you know, I drank a cold

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brew before the before my Christmas episode, the holiday episode, whatever,

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and I was just talking really fast, and every single

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comment was like, I think she's on coke.

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Speaker 2: I think she started smoking.

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Speaker 3: Crack, And I was I wish, I literally wish, I

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literally literally because you're sensitive to caffeine very sense, and

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you stopped. You weren't drinking it for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took a year off and then I always

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try and oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Mike, oh my god. Wait. Okay, also not you dress

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like a polar bear. Oh my god. Wait. We look

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crazy different, we both do. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: This is a private video's Oh yeah, yeah, I was

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gonna say, Mike, Yeah, Mike.

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Speaker 3: We look you look so midwestern here.

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Speaker 1: I honestly look like I'm gonna try and convert you

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to Catholicism.

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Speaker 3: You know, you look Jehovah witness. You look you look.

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You look like a Christian nationalist.

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Speaker 2: And you look like I just plucked you out of

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a rave.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, I look kind of homeless, like you might

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live in your car. Yeah, which I probably did.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't think I ever looked like that.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, crazy, I didn't think I ever looked like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is is stressing me out. But anyway, we

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had a fun time. We were This is stressed, this

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is wild. This is stressing me out. It's stressing me

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out that I thought that surfboard looked good next to

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that couch.

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Speaker 3: I'm fucking screaming. I know, I'm looking at my outfit

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and I'm like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 5: What the he hell no notes on my outfit, A

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perfect outfigure right are picked up.

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Speaker 3: But you know what it's like, in a couple of

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years from now, I'll look back at this and be like,

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what the fuck was I wearing this?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's just how life goes. Life goes like this.

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You in the moment are like, I'm doing the best

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I can. I look as good as I can possibly look.

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I never looked better. You have all the confidence in

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the world, and then you look back at it and

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you're like, oh my god, I actually thought I looked

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good and I look like a fucking pumpkin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like in college?

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Speaker 1: Did you go through a tanning phase in college?

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Speaker 3: First of all, didn't go to college, thank you, But

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did I go through a tanning phase?

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Speaker 2: Did you graduate high school?

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Speaker 3: I graduated high school.

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Speaker 2: I went to I don't know, you just got.

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Speaker 3: Like, no, I went to I went to a theater school,

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which is whatever after high school, which doesn't was just.

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Speaker 2: A guy with a stage in a backyard. You filed things?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, doing death of a salesman in a guy's backyard. No, biki.

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laying in my backyard covered in baby oil and my

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mom would yell at me and be like, you're gonna

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fuck your skin up and regret it one day. Look

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at mice, because my mom's skin is I.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know how to really describe it, lots of milasma.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on there. Yeah, there's a lot.

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It looks like something not of this world, and.

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Speaker 2: It geez, my mom's skin is the same.

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Speaker 3: And that's because your mom is not of this world anymore.

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Speaker 2: She's a pilot bash.

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Speaker 3: Then my mom probably has the same kind of it's

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probably the same same color.

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Speaker 2: Some texture.

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Speaker 3: And she would look at my skin, you want to

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look like this, and I would go, so, fuck you,

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I'm not gonna look like you. Yeah, and you old

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raggedy bitch.

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Speaker 2: I'll look like raggedy, you.

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Speaker 3: Old raggedy ann Yeah. But then and then I stopped

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because I was like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to look like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, but you know, at least you were

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tanning in this high and I was in tanning beds

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because I was in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: I did do tanning beds. Eventually I did graduate to that,

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and it did give me a lot of last my

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forehead and I got like a sash, you know, a sunstash,

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a sunstash. It fucked my shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, god, but the things we did, I'm just because

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that was a moment in time where I was like,

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I am the hottest bitch in every single room. And

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I would tan twice a day. And I looked back

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at a picture recently of me in college. I was orange, yeah,

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orange orange, Yeah. I had no eyebrows, and I had

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a beer.

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Speaker 3: Belly and I'm like, that's that's a look, dude.

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Speaker 1: How how was that the time of my life when

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I got the most deck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny.

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Speaker 1: I think guys can just sense you're young and insecure

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and drunk, and they're like, yeah, well smash yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you also because you have that fake confidence too,

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so you're just like called tequila. Yeah, and that'll get

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any guys. They've fall for that so fast going after

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week was not the strong ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not the fastest one, not the fastest yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the orange dude I used to wear exclusively. I

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would tank also, by the way, tanning twice a days

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and saying, but I would do you know the self

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tanner only put it on my face.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, that's a good love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very I definitely did. And I had

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I would wear the bright pink like sparkly lip gloss.

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So I had like frosted lips and raccoon black eyeliner.

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And I remember in high school, guys, I found out

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that people were calling me upa lumpa behind my back.

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That's my trauma, that's my trauma. Yeah. So that was

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that was my era of California looking fucking rad Yeah,

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and also surprisingly surprisingly enough when I was fucking the most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an age thing, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just like young, dumb, young tight.

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Speaker 3: Remember when I'm dude, I swear to god, I'm not

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tight anymore.

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Speaker 1: Have you done kegel weights pussy weights?

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Speaker 2: No, you need to start?

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Speaker 3: What do you what do you do with the big age?

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Speaker 2: You haven't done a single one.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do, like only tighten my pussy muscles,

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but do you do it with actual weights?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You put weights in, okay, so you can order. They're

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right there. That's third. Yeah, No, they're not keegel, and

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there's okay. So the white one is the lightest. It

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was actually really funny when I first got these. It

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was like twenty eighteen. I was married to Chris at

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the time, and I, you know, you're just supposed to

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start with the lightest and move your way up, but

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I was like, I've got a tight fucking pussy. So

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I started with like this, the heaviest one, and we

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didn't even make it out the door before it fell

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out and it dropped down my pant leg and hit

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the ground, and Christmas like, not as tight as you thought.

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Speaker 2: That's so fucking funny to kill it.

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Speaker 3: Wait you put them in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you put them in and they hang that little

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string hangs out like a tampon string, and you just

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leave them in throughout the day and then your your

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body is forced to keep it in because it's weight.

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So it's you know, and then you move up in

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weight class. It's like UFC it. Yeah, you move up

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in weight class until you're you've got you know you

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see that feels like a Chinese finger trap.

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Speaker 3: I do watch I want that? Yeah, wait, gotta start

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wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, hold on it.

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That's blowing my mind because I know because I all

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like sit around and just do the like, you know,

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muscle contractions of my pussy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you leave this in. Huh like you leave it in?

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You know what?

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Speaker 1: The hardest tamp on when you yes, and when you

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go pee, it's gonna want to pop out. And that's

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when you really have to contract the muscle contract the

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puss shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: Do you do them now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I have to. You have a twenty seven year old boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god, I can't have a

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loose puss. I gotta get on this. We're do they

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sell them at sex.

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Speaker 1: Shops that you can just get them on Amazon. They'll

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be it's probably Amazon Prime now, it'll be at your

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doorstep before you get home.

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Speaker 2: If you order it.

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Speaker 3: I have to ask my boyfriend order them. I don't

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use Amazon. He's the one with the Amazon account.

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Speaker 2: Well what do you mean you don't use Amazon?

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Speaker 1: Are you the only person on the planet and I

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might be the only person on the planet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Amazon, Okay for not not like because I'm like

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raging against the steam.

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Speaker 2: It seems like you might be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems that way, and I wish it was

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because of that, But it's just like because a couple

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of years ago, I somehow like fucked up an Amazon

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account and it just never let me like go back in.

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Speaker 2: They you out. Yeah, I don't say. That's very gabulous.

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You don't have any idea what you did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's either forty five bucks. I honestly should have

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given you mine. I had stress set.

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Speaker 2: Wow, an extra set.

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Speaker 1: I just threw him in the street the other day

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because I'm moving through.

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Speaker 3: Them in the street.

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Speaker 1: Last literally like a Rodeo cloud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just just breaks a windshield.

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Speaker 1: So you start with the So you start with the light,

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and then you work your way up to the dark purple,

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and then you know by the ends, pussy.

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Speaker 2: Titus, pussy on the block.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I actually had no idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the nice thing.

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Speaker 1: So like women, if you're a little loose, and here's

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the thing, it's not even like you're loose, it's just

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like as your age, it's a muscle. Muscles get weaker.

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We can work to tighten it. Like if you're a

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man and you have a small.

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Speaker 2: Dick, like, that's it. It sucks for you, it sucks

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for you, but like for us.

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Speaker 1: We can we can snatch that. We can tighten it

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up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: See in my head, and this is how like much

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I don't understand female anatomy. In my head, I'm like, well,

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if you're sitting around with something in your pussy, isn't

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that just making your pussy looser?

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Speaker 1: No, because it's weighted, and so it has to Your

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pussy has to activate in order to keep it in.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, I under I hear the words that

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you're saying, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It's not most of our friendship.

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Speaker 3: And I hear you, and I hear you when I

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see you, But in my head, I'm still going and

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I don't give a fuck. In my head, I go

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this science, the science doesn't make sense to me, right.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: I just said, like, there are some girls who just

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believe they're like born with the type pussy and they're

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gonna have a type pussy forever.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm used to and I was one

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of those. But now I know for a fact I'm not.

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For a fact, for a fact, I know I'm not.

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And I'll tell you how I know this. Yeah, I'll

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tell you how I know if you were wondering. Yeah,

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because my boyfriend does have a big dick.

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Speaker 2: Congrats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And once we start having sex, I sometimes I'm like, well,

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why can't I Why does it feel like there's nothing

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in there? And I go, that's got to be my

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pussy because he use a big dick.

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Speaker 2: Gotta be a me problem.

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Speaker 3: It's gotta be me problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like throwing a fucking hot dog down a

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hallways starting to feel that way. It's starting to feel

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that way, so it's time. That's my sign, it's time

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to start going to the pussy jambabe, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a jarring feeling when

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you go, why do I feel? And maybe, and you

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know what, maybe just maybe it's an emotional thing. Maybe

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I just don't feel anything in my pussy because I've

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just numbed it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It might be the mind, but it might be the

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laxipro too.

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Speaker 3: Or am I just have a loose pussy? You might

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just have a gaping Should we call my boyfriend?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, quick question? You're on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: I remember I did ask him one time. I was like,

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on a scale of one in ten, how am I?

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How loose a mind? He was like, you have that five? Five?

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And I was like, that's actually so bad that you

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mean the noiser cat makes when it trust about that's

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what he was doing. And he's like no, and I

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was like, that's loose and he's like, no, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not that it's odd that.

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Speaker 1: It's good to know that you can find love with

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a loose pussy.

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Speaker 3: You girls, you can see you girls. It's possible.

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Speaker 2: Fine love.

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Speaker 1: It's possible, fine love with some flapping lips, biggie.

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Speaker 2: What do you want?

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Speaker 3: Not even quaking? Quaking, And I'm literally wearing a period

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diaper right now. Look at those.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to see it. Yeah, yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: Look at it.

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Speaker 2: Do you not believe in Tampa?

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Speaker 3: No? I do. I just it's like I just sleep

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in a in a diaper.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy. You just did that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And it smells.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's why Biggie's quaking. He's like, there's a dying animal.

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It doesn't it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Smell like period. They give it a scent. It's like

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a it's like a lavender scent, but it smells unnatural.

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Speaker 1: Younger and feel better on those bare face no makeup dates.

472
00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:00,440
So go to a life on the lamb dot com

473
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,640
mused the codebrit last ten for ten percent off your

474
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,160
first daughter.

475
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, think me later, goodbye. You don't you've never used

476
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,440
a period, diper.

477
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: Baby girl, I've had an ID for the last ten years.

478
00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:17,039
I haven't had a period in ten years. I did

479
00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,319
not know that except when I got it out to

480
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,119
freeze my eggs, and then the periods I had were

481
00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:28,079
so unbelievable. The person I became when I was pmsing

482
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,799
and on my peero, I'm like, it should be illegal

483
00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,519
to be a woman in society with a brain like this.

484
00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:36,759
Ye like it's I was so unwell, like somebody could

485
00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,200
do something, somebody like I was hooking up with a

486
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,359
guy I remember, and he on your period. No, no, no, no,

487
00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:46,880
I was pmsing and I'm just saying I was hooking.

488
00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: Up with this guy. It was not a serious thing

489
00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:49,400
at all.

490
00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: And we had a plan and he canceled the plan

491
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,920
and he lived in Orange County, and I, in my

492
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000
head had a legitimate thought I should go.

493
00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 2: To his house and burn it down. It's like, I'll

494
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,720
show it's wrong with and honestly, well, I hear, no problem.

495
00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:08,240
I go to his house, turn the oven on, walk

496
00:21:08,279 --> 00:21:10,359
out the door. Yeah.

497
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

498
00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:12,559
Speaker 1: So I just was like, yeah, no, I'm a threat

499
00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:14,480
to society if I have these.

500
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: Hormones and the with the I U D.

501
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: I get what I call my phantom period where my

502
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,839
tits get big and I get sassy, but.

503
00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:22,559
Speaker 2: I don't bleed.

504
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: I just know it like would be my period if

505
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,960
I didn't have a Tesla logo inside of me.

506
00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:29,799
Speaker 3: Right, and you do, and you do have the Tesla

507
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,480
logo in use, and I do and I do. Wow,

508
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,759
I can't do it, dude, I'll never get it. I'll

509
00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:39,680
never do it. You never have never have, is it?

510
00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:44,279
Like why it's the I D specifically because it's a fear.

511
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,720
It's a fear of the uh, the the dilating. I

512
00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:54,240
like can't. I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I can't do it.

513
00:21:54,319 --> 00:21:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: It's very painful to get in. You almost can't feel

515
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,880
it when it comes out. Very painful to get it.

516
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,279
Absolutely not like the way they're like, you're gonna feel

517
00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,000
a little pinch and then it feels like you just

518
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,680
got shot in the abdomen, and I'm like, absolutely, a

519
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,079
little fucking I should call the.

520
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Police on you guy. You guys should be in jail

521
00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:11,640
right now.

522
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: You should be in jail.

523
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,839
Speaker 1: You should you should be in jail, And like, how

524
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,559
dare you call it a little pinch? That's like when

525
00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:18,400
you're getting have you ever gotten laser hair removal?

526
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:18,559
Speaker 3: No?

527
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,319
Speaker 2: Okay, well it would.

528
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Hurt on you because you have dark hair, but like

529
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,200
even anyone their hair color. In the very beginning, when

530
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,480
it starts, they're like, it's gonna be like little rubber

531
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,200
band steps. You feel it in your fucking spinal cord.

532
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: You feel it like go all the way up your spine.

533
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm like this this the most painful thing in the world.

534
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,319
Speaker 3: Life is hard enough as a woman. Yeah, I don't

535
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,319
want to add one more thing. And this is and

536
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,039
this is the thing. Don't get we started on some

537
00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,279
feminist fucking rant. This is the thing about that men

538
00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:51,119
will never understand. Yeah, because it's like the ship we

539
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:59,599
endure and how little, how little we like do anything

540
00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:02,759
about women, Like how little research there is in women's health.

541
00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, they just started looking into us so barely.

542
00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:07,559
They just started taking a peek. They're like, you know what,

543
00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:09,640
all this search, all this research about sleep. They're like

544
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,480
people need eight hours a night. That was based on men.

545
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960
It's like women need ten hours. It's like, okay, so

546
00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:16,279
we're completely different. And nobody's even looked into it.

547
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: Nobody's looked into it.

548
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: Nobody's taken a peek.

549
00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: Our mental health issues are completely different. The way that

550
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440
like autism affects women is completely different than it is men.

551
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,480
Adhd all of it. And then they go and they, oh,

552
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:29,799
we'll just put this rod in your'll be fine.

553
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean fine, Yeah, we're gonna throw a metal

554
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:33,039
rod up your pussy.

555
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:33,559
Speaker 3: You'll be fine.

556
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: You can't have our kids, do I want you to reproduce?

557
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:38,039
Speaker 2: You know what I think every man.

558
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,559
Speaker 1: Should have to do get like a tattoo from under

559
00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:44,839
their armpit down like the side of their leg, and

560
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,440
then have to get it removed, because tattoo removal, I

561
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,480
think is the most painful thing in the world.

562
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

563
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I just think that men should have to do that.

564
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,599
Men should have to do it just because we have

565
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,440
to do everything else.

566
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:57,039
Speaker 3: That's actually not a bad idea.

567
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,599
Speaker 1: It's not bad because it's the only thing aside from

568
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,480
dissolving lip and filler. Dissolving filler lip filler have you

569
00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:04,839
ever done?

570
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,599
Speaker 3: You a million times? And you know what it does

571
00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:09,559
not And I'm not even saying this to be like,

572
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:12,519
I don't know. It doesn't affect me. It's not that bad.

573
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're I don't know why. Yeah.

574
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:19,319
Speaker 1: For me, it was removing tattoos and dissolving lip fillers,

575
00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,440
where I'm like, this should be a torture tactic for war.

576
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it made me.

577
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,079
Speaker 1: You know, when your eyes are you're crying, but it's

578
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,559
like you're not emotionally crying, you're just Yeah, it was

579
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,799
the worst thing in the world.

580
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 3: Do you a filler right now?

581
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

582
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yours looks good. Yeah? Mine, because I you

583
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,640
know how I went so crazy when I got it.

584
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh baby, do I remember?

585
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: Yeah? So yeah, yeah, when I was like in my

586
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,240
cartoonishly insane phase, it like, well.

587
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm also the one who told you to get lip filler.

588
00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: Remember did you tell me to get lift? Yeah?

589
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: I told you should get your little and probably right

590
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,160
after that podcast, I said you should probably get lip

591
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,680
filler and get sober, and you did both and then

592
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,759
you did too much of one.

593
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,599
Speaker 3: And then I did too much of one and then

594
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:01,319
I relapsed. Yeah, it's too much miller than relox. But

595
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:05,319
because I got so much so fast, it like stretched

596
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:08,160
my shit out and now I just have like, no

597
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,319
matter how much I dissolve, there's still like a pocket

598
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,640
up here that will not fucking go away. And so

599
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,960
whenever I get filler now it like goes right back

600
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:24,279
up into that area and it really ooh, it makes

601
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:24,880
me mad.

602
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,279
Speaker 2: To go to my girl.

603
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: I always train sending to my people, and you're like,

604
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,880
you know, I'm gonna get a group ud like, well,

605
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,880
they I think they look good.

606
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,279
Speaker 2: Now, they look great, they're fine.

607
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: Now everything on your face looks perfect.

608
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: Don't touch it.

609
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: I do kind of want some botox in Okay, Yeah, you.

610
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: Got a lot of movement, right, But it's kind of

611
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,400
nice to be able to emote, because when you're flat

612
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,200
and you're not doing anything, you don't have lines. So

613
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,440
it is nice, especially as a comedian and somebody who

614
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,599
wants to act, to be able to.

615
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: Move your face.

616
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because every time I get botox, I tell her

617
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,680
like make sure I can still look mad.

618
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,759
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, yeah, and I always go get rid

619
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:00,400
of all of it.

620
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:01,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, freeze me.

621
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: It is. I do feel how it is, like how

622
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,079
it's affecting my face, Like I feel like I don't

623
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:11,599
emote as much anymore.

624
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, But do you think part of that is because

625
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,440
you're just becoming an apathetic person?

626
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:17,319
Speaker 2: Possibly?

627
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we like lose the will to give

628
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,559
a fuck, and then like it's like between botox and

629
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,000
then just like the overstimulation of like the world being

630
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:27,759
too much. I think I can't. I can't muster a fuck.

631
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: It's not in I can't.

632
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: I went through all these beauty torture things you girls

633
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,680
have described, I wouldn't have the will for anything either, honestly,

634
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,359
That's and that's what I'm saying, Like it's so painful

635
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,279
that I'm just like if I'm gonna sit there while

636
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:41,160
somebody puts a what is.

637
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,839
Speaker 2: That long needle?

638
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: A candle?

639
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,799
Speaker 2: A needle in my face? To look?

640
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: You know, I go in and I look, can you

641
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,279
pull up a candle? A needle?

642
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,319
Speaker 2: C A N D U L.

643
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: What's that for?

644
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,839
Speaker 2: It's for sculpture, it's for filler, it's for but.

645
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: A candle A needle is fucking it's I'm like, I'm

646
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,960
gonna go through this.

647
00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: To look six days younger.

648
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: I've never had school trup, but I have had face filler.

649
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: Sculpture is okay. Candala is the long one.

650
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: That they go, yeah, I've had can you do a

651
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:14,799
Candela video? Because they like go all in. My sister.

652
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: So after my dad had his open heart surgery, so

653
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,440
my sister was Me and my sister were both there

654
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,400
for everything, and my sister was in the room with

655
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720
him like she has a stomach for shit, like she can.

656
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,160
Like I had to leave, like and they had to

657
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,839
like pull the tubes out of his chest. I was like,

658
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,599
fucking get me out of here. No, no, I can't

659
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,519
do it. My sister was there, she watched everything. She's

660
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,440
like very curious. She's a scientist. She wants to know stuff.

661
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,400
So in the same trip, we went down to my

662
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,480
plastic surgeon friend in Chicago, Eric Anderson, who's a genius,

663
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:43,839
and I love it.

664
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: I really want to go to it when I get tits. Yes,

665
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:47,680
I will go to You have to go to him.

666
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,039
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like gonna give him to you for

667
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,799
next to free.

668
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,039
Speaker 2: I know you don't have the next to free.

669
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:55,759
Speaker 3: No I do, but it's not for tits. Yeah, that's

670
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:58,000
the thing. Yes, Like, but I still, I mean, I

671
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:01,480
still could I have. I'm doing okay right now. But

672
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,240
my other thing is is like I'm also just low

673
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,720
key afraid. I'm afraid of getting I've never had plastic surgery,

674
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,880
and I'm afraid of it a little bit.

675
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: I validate that fear.

676
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: I feel the same way because I have been going

677
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,119
back and forth like I want a boob job, and

678
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,000
then then I land on I think I'm just bored

679
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,440
and I don't actually want, you know what I mean.

680
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,839
I'm like, I look at Brianna chicken Fry and her

681
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,119
big fake tits and how good they look, and I'm

682
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,519
just like, oh, she looks so good. It makes your

683
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,759
waist look smaller, it makes everything. But then okay, here's

684
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,960
the candla. Yeah, it's a big it's a big fucking meal.

685
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

686
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,039
Speaker 1: So it's like that girl has to hold like a

687
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,440
little vibrator on her chin so she can't feel like

688
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,279
this going anyway.

689
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: You can get the gist.

690
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,559
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, But I go back and forth and I'm like,

691
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:46,559
do I want boobs? Don't I want boobs? And when

692
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,160
I ask my boyfriend, he's like, you don't need them.

693
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,839
Speaker 3: You don't because you do have good tits.

694
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,599
Speaker 1: I do, but I'm like, I want them bigger, you know.

695
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,319
But I also don't want scars. It's a whole it's

696
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:56,640
a whole thing. But anyway, we went to Eric to

697
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,839
get my sister had really bad malasma and has never

698
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,759
really you know, taken care of her skin. And I

699
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,480
was like, let's go get a CO two laser, let's

700
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,720
get you some botox, let's like fix her up a

701
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,799
little bit. Yeah, And we took her in and she

702
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,240
did her thing, and then while I was doing my thing,

703
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,640
he did sculpture and my sister was sitting there watching

704
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,839
everything and she gagged when she's how the candle, She's

705
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:23,400
like and I was like, you just watched tubes get

706
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,759
pulled out of dad's chest and she's like that was

707
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,920
so much more disgusting because you could see the needle

708
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,920
like poking through the skin. Through the skin, yeah, like

709
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,319
different marks moving around under the skin.

710
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,599
Speaker 2: She's like, that is fucking disgusting.

711
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:38,359
Speaker 1: But I have to show you the before and after

712
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:43,319
for doctor Eric with my sister because it is Please.

713
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: I love before and afters.

714
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: It's done real, so I'll post it in on the

715
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:48,440
video too.

716
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,319
Speaker 3: She had really bad malasma. Was it one treatment?

717
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:52,799
Speaker 2: Yes, look at this bitch.

718
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Wow, that's wild. That's wild.

719
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,359
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

720
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:05,319
Speaker 3: What did she Okay? So what did she get done?

721
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: She did a CO two laser and like a little

722
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,119
bit about tox.

723
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:12,359
Speaker 2: That's it. Her looks like a different person.

724
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: It like brought her face up.

725
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

726
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: Well because the CO two laser, I mean it gets

727
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,799
rid of all of your you know, it's a it's

728
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:22,960
a very invasive laser and it gets rid of everything.

729
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,119
So it's like it it makes your body naturally produce

730
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,039
more collagen, which is naturally going to like tighten everything.

731
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: And make it like that session one session.

732
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: She doesn't have to like it's an intense laser, like

733
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,799
if you were to go get it in La. It's

734
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,200
like an eight thousand dollars laser. Whoa, he can just

735
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,599
do it for?

736
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,079
Speaker 3: Like is that much?

737
00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:41,839
Speaker 1: It's I think it's pretty fucking unless it's dropped. Mike,

738
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,759
can you check the cost of a CO two laser?

739
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:44,079
Speaker 2: Please?

740
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: Oh? Fuck?

741
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

742
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:46,759
Speaker 2: Is it?

743
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: Is it a kind that like makes you peel for

744
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,799
like months and months?

745
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: Not months? Okay?

746
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: So yes, if you get the intense version of it.

747
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:55,160
We got like that, Okay. It takes like a week

748
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,559
to heal.

749
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, five thousand to nine thousand off.

750
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: So there's two different settings.

751
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,799
Speaker 1: We did the lowest setting, which means your face looks

752
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:06,839
like hamburger for like three days and then it.

753
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Takes like about a full week to heal.

754
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: There's another setting for if you're older, you know, or

755
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,279
if you have a ton of damage where it like

756
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,079
flocks you up, and that one takes like a month

757
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,720
to heal. But then afterwards you look like a baby.

758
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:24,119
Like my friend's mom got it and she was beautiful.

759
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:25,920
I mean, she like, you know, did upkeep, but she

760
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,640
was older. It's haaventy something, and she got it done

761
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,279
and when she was done she looked like she was fifty.

762
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:31,839
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck?

763
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: Who it's crazy that skincare is like the number one thing. Yeah,

764
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Like I think skin like that kind of stuff is

765
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:44,039
it makes you look younger than botox and filler. Yeah,

766
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,079
if you're getting the right kind of skin procedures done.

767
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

768
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,039
Speaker 1: Well I think botox and filler too are tricky because

769
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,039
like unless they're done really well.

770
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can make you look older.

771
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

772
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:54,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

773
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: And there's a trend now in celebrities whe they're all

774
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,079
getting their shit dissolved, dissolved because.

775
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:00,519
Speaker 2: It is it makes you look old.

776
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Well, it was also a trend to have it, you know,

777
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,720
it was like the BBL and filler era and now

778
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,720
everyone's like back to like trying to be stick thin. Yeah,

779
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,839
and like Kate Moss and like.

780
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: Bbls are bad, They're horrible. Bbals are so bad.

781
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:15,799
Speaker 2: Did I hear it? Was it you talking about how

782
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:16,319
they smell?

783
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: Maybe?

784
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: But I mean I think I saw on a.

785
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:21,559
Speaker 1: Clip you were talking about how bbl's smell.

786
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,559
Speaker 3: It's like a thing. Yeah, I don't know if that's

787
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:25,759
actually true.

788
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:27,039
Speaker 2: But something you saw on TikTok.

789
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I have a girl with a BBL just farting,

790
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:30,640
and you're like these smell.

791
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,799
Speaker 3: Yes, she's just literally sitting around sharing herself. Yeah, I

792
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,599
don't know. I've I've heard that they smell.

793
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: A healthy BBL shouldn't inherently smell, but I guess. I mean,

794
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,640
if you're going to like Mexico and getting some like

795
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,680
bootleg doctor to do it, then like anything's gonna smell

796
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,599
if it's got, if.

797
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: It's yeah, that's so true. Yeah, isn't that? Isn't that right?

798
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Isn't that right?

799
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: You know? What I'm thinking about right now is how

800
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,480
like on when men do podcasts, it's like all they

801
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,279
do is talk about food and sports, and then we're

802
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,880
sitting there it's like always talk about is like injections

803
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,880
and which I fucking love, which to me is like

804
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,759
the most interesting conversation in the world. I love talking

805
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:09,920
about I love talking about procedures and medication. Those are

806
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,960
my two favorite things.

807
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: We hit them both.

808
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,319
Speaker 3: We hit them both.

809
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:13,559
Speaker 2: So the podcast is over.

810
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,839
Speaker 3: So is over.

811
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: It's time for just to rap it.

812
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: So you're only on lexapro.

813
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm only on lexapro five milligrams.

814
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,119
Speaker 1: But I mean, I truly I've said it before on

815
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,640
the I cannot believe how different I feel.

816
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,519
Speaker 3: You were resistant for so long to getting medicaidd.

817
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Unbelievably resistant because I was so sure that I could

818
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640
journal my way out of it, or I could walk

819
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,920
ten thousand steps, or I could look stare straight into

820
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,319
the sun.

821
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:40,599
Speaker 3: Yep.

822
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,839
Speaker 1: Like I was like, no, like we are on this

823
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,880
like we're supposed to be on this earth. We're not

824
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,359
supposed to be miserable here, like the way that like

825
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240
the consumerism of the world has made us all miserable.

826
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,279
And it's just that I just need to go touch grass.

827
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,839
And I'm like, I live on Olympic Boulevard in Los Angeles.

828
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,000
I know there's not enough grass I could touch.

829
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: I could and the grass that you could touch is

830
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,960
asbestos and dog shit.

831
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,799
Speaker 2: It's like exactly.

832
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, is like I get the argument for,

833
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,679
you know, being anti medication and being like there we

834
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,199
can holistically heal ourselves to an extent. I believe that's true,

835
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,440
but not in the conditions that we live in, not

836
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,880
in especially in the United States.

837
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: And I think it's so interesting too, because I was

838
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,239
so like, I don't want to be on drugs, And

839
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,480
one time my therapist just said to me and like

840
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,280
thank God for her and her brutal honesty. But I

841
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,079
was just like, I just don't want to be somebody

842
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:31,679
who's on drugs every day, Like I don't.

843
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: Want, you know.

844
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: And she's like, and what were you in your.

845
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,159
Speaker 1: Twenties, dead ass? And I was like, I was on

846
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,800
molly though, that's like fun, that's a fun one that's

847
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,519
like that easy, like fun.

848
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

849
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: So she's like, okay, She's.

850
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: Like, you have needed drugs to be alive since you

851
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,320
were fifteen, yeah, and she's like they just weren't legal,

852
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,599
yeah yeah.

853
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, well, now that.

854
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: You say that, no, but I really didn't think and

855
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,159
like people get sick of me talking about it on

856
00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:59,639
this podcast because I think it's tough.

857
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: People that have.

858
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: Never considered taking their own life think it's like a

859
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,920
really dark thing to hear, and I don't want to

860
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,199
like jam it down everyone's throat.

861
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you.

862
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,199
Speaker 1: When I woke up in the morning, it was my

863
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000
first thought every day since the day I got sober.

864
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

865
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,599
Speaker 1: The only time I didn't have those thoughts prior to

866
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,079
that was because I was self medicating, right, drugs and alcohol.

867
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,360
But every day since I got sober, it was my

868
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,760
first thought, and it was a thought I had pervasively

869
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,000
throughout the day. It never went away, and I just

870
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,920
thought it was like my personality. I was like, ooh,

871
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,000
I'm just like that's what I think about. And then

872
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,320
I got on Lexapro and I'm like, oh my god.

873
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,559
People are out here living like this, Yeah, just like

874
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,920
not thinking about it and just going about their lives

875
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,159
and having kind of a good time.

876
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

877
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,559
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me when I meet people who have

878
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,239
never had a suicidal thought, people who are like, I'm like,

879
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,519
are you paying attention? Are you paying? Have you what?

880
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,760
And I'm so jealous of that. Like my best friend Bis, Yeah,

881
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,199
she's like that. She's somebody who's just is like, doesn't

882
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,400
struggle with mental health stuff. I mean, she's like in

883
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,239
her own ways, has her own shit, but she's like

884
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,920
not somebody that I would say needs to be medicated. Yeah,

885
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,719
And she doesn't have that kind of she just doesn't

886
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000
have a like morbid like cynicism.

887
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:10,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

888
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's it blows me away.

889
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,199
Speaker 1: It's it's nice. It's like a refreshing perspective. It's funny

890
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:19,760
because I do this crowd work at my shows. Now

891
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,280
when I'm talking about it because it is a tough

892
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,920
thing to get into. And I'm like, I want to

893
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,039
know who here hasn't thought about it. Yeah, And I

894
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,840
was in Seattle a couple of days ago and this

895
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,239
guy was like, I haven't. And I was like, what

896
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,760
do you do for work? He's like, I'm an analyst,

897
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,480
and I'm like, what do you analyze? He's like transportation

898
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,079
And I'm like, okay, tell me about that and he's

899
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,920
like it's really boring. And I'm like, right, so, how

900
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,400
have you never once thought about Like I'm analyzing the

901
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,039
speed of a train.

902
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:42,639
Speaker 2: I would if I jumped in front of it.

903
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I like, first thought, first thought, first, last, closing. That

904
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,880
would be all the thoughts I had. He's just like

905
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,480
I just I had, Like it's crazy. You can have

906
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:53,559
a monotonous job. You can have an uh you know.

907
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,840
And I'm not saying this to shade people a generally

908
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,360
uninteresting life, yeah, and still be enjoying it.

909
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,159
Speaker 2: And what a gift?

910
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,599
Speaker 3: What a gift? A gift? It really it's it's it's

911
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,519
a brain chemistry thing. Yeah, it's just that you have because.

912
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, you look at us in our lives and

913
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,239
we're so fortunate to do the jobs we do, yeah,

914
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
and be surrounded with the people we're surrounded with, and

915
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,800
you know, then we go home at night after you know,

916
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,920
performing to like huge crowds and bringing people joy, and

917
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,920
were like, should we add it?

918
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Should I should just do it tonight? Yeah? I know,

919
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:27,519
I truly.

920
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a shame and I'm but do you

921
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,159
feel like your medicine's working now?

922
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,039
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I still have you know, I still definitely

923
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:45,400
struggle with depression. Yeah, I definitely struggle with like low

924
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,079
self worth, which I mean also I can't rely on

925
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,159
medication to fix that. You know. It's like it does

926
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,400
help like quiet, Yeah, the loudness of it, but there's

927
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,760
still in the edges softens the edges. But I mean

928
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,679
I still have I still struggle with it. Yeah, breaking

929
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:10,480
through that, like I like, breaking through the low self

930
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:15,000
esteem is I have not figured out how to do

931
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:15,400
that yet.

932
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

933
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,199
Speaker 3: It's it's a life's work, it really, Yeah, And you

934
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,840
know it, I think a lot of the negative self

935
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,920
talk too, comes from we're gonna if we go down

936
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,840
the you know, rabbit hole. It's a parenting thing, and

937
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,840
then like you know, it's like and it's not to

938
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,599
say that my parents didn't love me and like weren't

939
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:40,079
completely attentive parents, but like, my mom is really struggles

940
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,320
with her own mental health and she is like a

941
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,360
lot of negative self talk. And when you grow up

942
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,400
with a mom who's like negative self talking herself and

943
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,519
then like you hear that and then she's doing it

944
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:54,679
to me, but like not but subconsciously you know, she's not.

945
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,119
My mom was never like you, you're a piece of

946
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:01,199
shit who's not worth anything. It was more of the

947
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,480
way that she talked about herself and life. And then me,

948
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:08,639
I remember, God, I remember being like so young and

949
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:13,400
my mom's saying things like well, I could just end

950
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,159
it all and that could be that so and I

951
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,159
was just like, what the what the fuck is wrong

952
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,000
with you? Why are you saying that to a nine

953
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:23,159
year old you know? And she'd be like, that's life. Yeah,

954
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,960
that's life.

955
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

956
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: My mom would always say that too. She's like, well,

957
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,519
you're gonna miss me when I'm gone, yeah, and I.

958
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: Might take myself out of the game.

959
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: And I was just like, what game?

960
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:34,119
Speaker 3: Well game, okay, what do we put Your mom stood on?

961
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,719
Business ten toos down? My mom is still my.

962
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,039
Speaker 1: Mom still doesn't imagine her suicide not just said I

963
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:42,760
and I took myself out of the game. I told

964
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,119
you it said sorry for the mess, which I think

965
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:45,800
is funnier.

966
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: That is pretty funny.

967
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: That's wild. That's why the funny thing is. I know

968
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,480
she was just.

969
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: Talking about like the physical mess, yeah, of like having

970
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,360
to remove a body.

971
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,159
Speaker 2: She wasn't talking about the emotional mess.

972
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

973
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: I was like side with a heart with crazy hair.

974
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,599
Speaker 5: It was like love mode in a gel pen a

975
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,960
sparkly there's.

976
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's so funny.

977
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,639
Speaker 4: Man.

978
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: It's uh. I don't know, I think and I'm sure,

979
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,639
like you said, you probably talk about this a lot.

980
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:20,159
But people when I hear people say like, oh, suicide

981
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,639
is is so like such a cowardly thing to do,

982
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,199
I think like, no, it's not. And I'll tell you

983
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,360
I don't think the way that. The reason I don't

984
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,039
think it is is because death is so scary and

985
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,159
to be like that, fuck it, I'll just.

986
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:37,119
Speaker 1: Do it, Like you think, why do you think it's

987
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:38,440
scary death?

988
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: I personally, I personally don't think it's that scary. But

989
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:47,320
the idea of just like being like yeah.

990
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: I'll just fucking yeah, you get out of here.

991
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's so crazy, Like dang shit, yeah, are

992
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,519
you kidding me? I'm like somebody who's like so depressed.

993
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,880
But still if I like, I wouldn't be able to

994
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,960
fucking jump off a bridge or you know whatever, because

995
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,679
like that, to me, it's like the act of doing

996
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,119
it would take kind of a strong person. Yeah, you know,

997
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,079
somebody's just like yeah, I'm good to go. Yeah, that

998
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,840
takes like I don't know, maybe that's a controversial take,

999
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,599
but I'm like, that's.

1000
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: I think it is a controversial take, but it's something

1001
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,840
that I think too. I'm like, I think it's fucking

1002
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,599
gang shit to like get the book out of here.

1003
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,960
I also think it's like it's not gang shit.

1004
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: Because it's deep, deep, deep deep depression that like.

1005
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,519
Speaker 1: Don't understand yet. Yeah, because we're not there. But have

1006
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:33,079
you ever read the book Journey of Souls?

1007
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: No, but I have it, and I hear people don't.

1008
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,199
Speaker 2: I know, and I've read it.

1009
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: I've heard it's it's a life changing book.

1010
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: It's a life changing book.

1011
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: And if anyone thinks death is scary, you'll read that

1012
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,719
book and kind of be excited for it. Yeah, I'll

1013
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,519
be like, oh, this is going to be lit.

1014
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I have it. I've been meaning to. Well, dude,

1015
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:49,320
it's like that's what's so funny to me about religion

1016
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:53,599
is that like they're so like, really religious people are

1017
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:55,920
so obsessed with death. You know, they're like, this is

1018
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,239
just the temporary. We're just doing this to go live

1019
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,000
in God's case.

1020
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:03,599
Speaker 1: But I think the difference with religion and what might

1021
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,800
be what really happens. And religious people are gonna get

1022
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,559
mad for me saying this, but like religious people use

1023
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,159
their religion to dictate how you're supposed to live here

1024
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,239
in order to get to a place that's peaceful. And

1025
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,719
here's the truth, I mean from the book and what

1026
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,400
you know, whether or not people want to admit that's true.

1027
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,920
But like if you do abhorrent shit while you're here,

1028
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,480
and some of this is rooted in like the Ten Commandments,

1029
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:30,559
like if you kill somebody, if you abuse miners, if

1030
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:32,880
you rite people, like if.

1031
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: You do horrible shit.

1032
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: The way that the book talks about it is that

1033
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,039
like you don't get to just go to the light

1034
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,880
and be with your family and friends. You don't get

1035
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,840
to go like hang out with your loved ones and

1036
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,599
like look back at your life and be like, oh,

1037
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,639
like what did.

1038
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: I do wrong? What did I do right?

1039
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: Like, you don't get to have that, You do get

1040
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,840
put into a darker place that's more like a purgatory

1041
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,360
or how like biblically purgatory would be described, which is

1042
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,280
like you have to sit here, and if you were

1043
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,719
bad enough on earth, like Jeffrey Dahmer or somebody who

1044
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,679
like was saying yes, like serial rapist, serial murderers, like

1045
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,760
their soul is then in some capacity deemed unfit to

1046
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,480
ever reincarnate. So like the soul's purpose, the soul's purpose

1047
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,039
is to keep reincarnating, to keep growing. And so the

1048
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:26,480
idea is that every time you reincarnate, your soul before

1049
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,119
you got here picked everything about your life, which is

1050
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,599
so wild crazy, like you picked your parents, you picked

1051
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:33,800
where you were going to live, you picked the hardships

1052
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,280
that you were going to have so that your soul

1053
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,280
could evolve. I know, it's like we fucking picked this.

1054
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:41,039
I would pick it again, but it's like you did

1055
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:42,920
pick these things to grow in the way you need

1056
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,960
to grow, so that when you do pass, you get

1057
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,559
to then like look back and be like, did I

1058
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:50,280
learn the lessons I was supposed to learn or didn't die,

1059
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,559
and whether or not you did decides whether or not

1060
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:56,239
your soul evolves to the next level and the last

1061
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,760
level of not reincarnation. The last level of the soul

1062
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,199
is to not have to do it again. But like,

1063
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,840
you keep coming back until you learn the lessons you're

1064
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,599
supposed to learn, and when you're done, you are you know,

1065
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,480
you kind of meet with like I think they call

1066
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:12,360
them soul guides in the book, I can't remember, but

1067
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,079
you meet with them. You look back at your life

1068
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,719
and you're like, how did I do you know, like

1069
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,760
did I did I navigate that right? Did I do

1070
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,440
the things I was supposed to do? And then you

1071
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,480
get to go be with your soul group and then

1072
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,480
you get to decide again when you are ready to reincarnate.

1073
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,119
But like, if you're horrible, that's it, Like you got

1074
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,119
you got your chance.

1075
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: You have to sit and fucking this horrible dark place.

1076
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because okay with that being with that being said,

1077
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:44,400
then like a like a hit like Hitler, were you

1078
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:46,639
was he? You know? It goes then I'm like, then

1079
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:50,559
were you something before all of that? Like were you

1080
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,360
were you coming back? You know before? And then you

1081
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,079
chose that.

1082
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:59,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't I know, you know, I'm like,

1083
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,599
would you ever reincarnate?

1084
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: Knowing?

1085
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,639
Speaker 2: But that I think that's part of it.

1086
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: It's like the did the the soul's decision? Like you

1087
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,320
do get to make a choice how you live. I

1088
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,960
don't know that, you know what I mean, I don't know.

1089
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,960
I'm not up there running the show. But like it's

1090
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,280
like did he because it's like he had a choice,

1091
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,400
Like when he got rejected from art school three.

1092
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:28,559
Speaker 3: Times, he had a choice to be like.

1093
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:31,199
Speaker 2: Or am I gonna just try one more time to

1094
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:32,039
get into art school?

1095
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1096
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: That's a crazy thing.

1097
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Like that was really the thing that kicked him into

1098
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,960
his like political journey. Was like he kept fucking trying

1099
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,920
to get into art school and they're.

1100
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,639
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, he wasn't even that bad of

1101
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:44,079
an artist.

1102
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: He wasn't that bad of an artist, and it's just

1103
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,639
can you imagine?

1104
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: No, I can't imagine. Then he like joined the army

1105
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,760
and he got all excited and he was like, oh,

1106
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,280
this is what it's like to have power.

1107
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: But he started from like the bottom of the bottom

1108
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480
and like really maneuvered his way.

1109
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: Up and just like, yeah, did he choose that did.

1110
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Right, And so it's like whether or not he knew

1111
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,760
when he was coming back down as that incarnation, if

1112
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,079
he was going to do that when he died, that's

1113
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,679
it right, you know, Like you then do not get

1114
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,119
a pass.

1115
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like an empty You're like a husky, like

1116
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,599
a husk of a soul.

1117
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: You're supposed to, like, we are supposed to be of

1118
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,840
service to other people. That's our whole point being here

1119
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,440
is to to be of service and to grow. And

1120
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,559
he didn't do a great job of either.

1121
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: He sure didn't.

1122
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: Really.

1123
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: I follow the I follow this this woman on is.

1124
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,119
Speaker 2: This his art? See, it's like I would let him

1125
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:42,519
into school.

1126
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I let him in to school. You kidd especial

1127
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:46,360
you know he was going to commit.

1128
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,039
Speaker 2: Man, this is not bad.

1129
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: It's not bad.

1130
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's this is what happens when you squash,

1131
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,159
when you squash and streams.

1132
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to artists because they'll start doing some crazy ship.

1133
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:01,679
Speaker 2: Dude, this is honestly.

1134
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: I couldn't do that.

1135
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that, and you're an artist.

1136
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: I'm an actual artist. Yeah, I can do that.

1137
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,039
Speaker 2: Just start decorating the podcast studio.

1138
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: With the Yeah, I followed this woman on her name,

1139
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,960
what is her name, Cindy Lou who cindylu who Cindy

1140
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,920
at Rowan Tree Groves or something on TikTok. But she's

1141
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,679
like a psychic medium and she does all of these,

1142
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,639
you know, she calls them peaks where she'll like peek

1143
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:36,639
in to a deceased person's where they wherever they are.

1144
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,719
And she did one on Hitler and she was like, so,

1145
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,960
I you know, I did this peak and it she

1146
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:49,400
was like, it's it was as if he was surrounded

1147
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,679
by shattered glass and you don't see him, but there's

1148
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,280
like an essence of him. And what he communicated to

1149
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,480
me was like I'm not I'm not Hitler, but I'm

1150
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:07,559
the essence of what was, and I don't exist anywhere anymore.

1151
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:11,199
It's just kind of yeah, yeah, it's like what you're describing.

1152
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's like the soul doesn't get to keep going.

1153
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,440
It stays somewhere, so it doesn't like come back. Yeah,

1154
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,880
but it's like you get the chance to grow in

1155
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,840
the way you're supposed to, and then if you Hitler.

1156
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: Out, you Hitler out.

1157
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: That's it.

1158
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 3: She did one on was it not? John Wayne Gacy obsessed,

1159
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,000
obsess obsessed.

1160
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:36,679
Speaker 1: Okay, And here's the writing theory I have between John

1161
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,559
Wayne Gacy and Dahmer and some of these other serial killers,

1162
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,480
if we could have just not been so homophobic, right,

1163
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,000
I think, because they're just closeted gay men. And it's

1164
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:47,599
the velvet rage of being Like have you ever read

1165
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:50,280
the book The Velvet Rage? No very interesting book to read.

1166
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,840
It's about how much rage builds inside of it's specifically

1167
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,639
men raised in a world that's told that being gay

1168
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,400
is wrong and so it's like this internal battle with

1169
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:03,320
yourself that you don't know. And the reason I was

1170
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,880
introduced to it was because Kenny, my gay bestie, when

1171
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,599
he was still in the just coming out of the closet,

1172
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:10,679
like we were friends from the transition to like him

1173
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,079
coming out of the closet, he had a ton of rage, yeah,

1174
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:14,800
and he would like get drunk and like throw shit

1175
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,599
and like be so angry and violent, and I was.

1176
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:17,679
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck is this?

1177
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: And then he showed me that book and he's like,

1178
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:23,000
try and understand that, like there's like violence inside of

1179
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:24,840
me because I've been told my whole life that like

1180
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,440
I'm not supposed to be this way and I am

1181
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,000
this way, and so I think that kind of is

1182
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,719
why we see so many gay serial killers, including Ed Green.

1183
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: That's whoy I was Ed Gan.

1184
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,039
Speaker 1: Ed Gen, Jeffrey Dahmer, so Wisconsin guys, and John Wayne Gacy.

1185
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:40,360
These are all guys that are like a forty No,

1186
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,360
they're like an hour and a half drive from each other.

1187
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,440
Like if you go like this up and down Wisconsin

1188
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,840
and Illinois, they're like right there and it's like this

1189
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,199
like really homophobic part of the country. Yeah, that's been

1190
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,280
like it doesn't you cannot be fucking gay.

1191
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: And Gan wasn't gay?

1192
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,159
Speaker 2: Was he?

1193
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: Gan was just he was a sexual, weird schizophrenic.

1194
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,079
Speaker 1: Well, he was a sexual deviant though, because he was

1195
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:02,079
like I would say maybe like an early version of

1196
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:05,239
a cross dresser because he is like dressed in his

1197
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,159
mom's clothes and then he like obviously made masks out

1198
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:10,679
of women's faces and like tried to be like he

1199
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,400
was the most.

1200
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:12,199
Speaker 2: Extreme cross dresser.

1201
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,119
Speaker 3: But he had that weird thing because like the mom

1202
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,360
was just like this radical catholic. Was she Catholic? Yeah?

1203
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:23,239
She was just like so abusive and like just hated him,

1204
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,360
hated that he was a boy. She thought boys were,

1205
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,840
you know, just like disgustings and well and she's not wrong,

1206
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,119
but she's right, she's right. She had a point. She

1207
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:36,199
and he she this woman did a read on him,

1208
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,079
and I guess what came through was like he was like,

1209
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,039
I just want to be forgotten. And the only reason

1210
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,159
that I'm like that I can cut there's like an

1211
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,320
essence of me left is because people keep calling on me.

1212
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,119
It's like every time somebody thinks of me.

1213
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: Well, Ryan Murphy's not doing any of these people favors,

1214
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:57,880
sure isn't, but digging it all up and it's like

1215
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:00,880
reigniting the fascination because it's like ed Gan, like I

1216
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,400
always knew about Ed Gean growing up, and Jeffrey Dahmer

1217
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,800
because they were literally Jeffrey Dahmer was twenty minutes away

1218
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,119
from my house, so crazy they had punched Jeffrey Dower.

1219
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: I know, that's so crazy.

1220
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: That's like whatever a Gean was like an hour and

1221
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,480
a half north. So it's like we always had like

1222
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:17,679
these stories of these killers. But that's kind of it.

1223
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,480
And then all of a sudden, Ryan Murphy just blew

1224
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,079
the fucking lid off of it, and it's like then

1225
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,320
the number of people that have gone to Milwaukee to

1226
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,079
do what's it called when it's tourists for like dead people,

1227
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,519
There's there's some word for it. But like all these

1228
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:34,920
people started showing up at Jeffrey Dahmer's, we call it

1229
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,000
in Milwaukee, we call it the slaughter lot because it's

1230
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,280
like where his building was.

1231
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:39,199
Speaker 3: But they took it down.

1232
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,639
Speaker 1: They took it down and they never rebuilt on it,

1233
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,480
and so we just we called called it the slaughter

1234
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,480
lot at Marquette too, because it was like two cart

1235
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,440
wheels Awa from Marquette.

1236
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: They're like, don't go over there.

1237
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: It's like spooky vibe, dark tourism, yeah, is what it's called.

1238
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: But the same thing happened when the.

1239
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: When Ryan Murphy did the Brothers in Beverly Hills, so

1240
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:03,119
were their names the menandas Brothers. So I live really

1241
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:05,559
close to there, and I was just, oh, really very close.

1242
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:07,039
Speaker 3: I've always wondered where that house was.

1243
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: It's right on Elm. It's like I think it's seven

1244
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,599
seven seven Elm or four seven seven Elms something like that.

1245
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:13,440
It's very close to me. So I would go on

1246
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,079
these night walks where I would walk all around the neighborhoods,

1247
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:17,199
and I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go buy

1248
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:18,800
and see it and thinking like I'm gonna be the

1249
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,119
only person who has this idea. But it was right

1250
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:23,480
after the show came out. There was like fifty people.

1251
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,599
The police were there. They're like, you need to leave.

1252
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,960
The house is like I thought it would still be

1253
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,280
kept like well kept.

1254
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,599
Speaker 2: For some reason.

1255
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's owned by like a Saudi family that

1256
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,119
is just laundering money pretty much like they put their

1257
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,920
money in. They bought the house a few years ago

1258
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:41,840
to like I think they're Saudi or the their Middle

1259
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,599
Eastern of some sort, just to like move money, yeah,

1260
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:45,159
and hold it.

1261
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:46,599
Speaker 2: But it's like it has.

1262
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,679
Speaker 1: Like a silver chain link fence out front.

1263
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: It's like completely run down.

1264
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: Nobody lives there.

1265
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: Nobody lives there.

1266
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,199
Speaker 1: And there was like all these people outside taking pictures

1267
00:52:56,199 --> 00:52:57,800
and like looking and I'm just like, yeah, this is

1268
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,880
so crazy. People are just like so fascinated with where

1269
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,800
horrific shit went down. And it's it's a weird thing

1270
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,039
about our culture, like we're obsessed with death, but we're

1271
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,199
also so afraid of it.

1272
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the thing because we like try to

1273
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:12,840
kind of make sense of it, like figure it out,

1274
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,239
and it's like, yeah, the morbid curiosity of like if

1275
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,280
I figure if I if I figure it out, then

1276
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,719
maybe it won't be as scary or like it's you know,

1277
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:29,559
it's also like anthropological to like think about what goes

1278
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:33,599
on through these you know, yeah, what makes what drives

1279
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:35,360
people to do the things that they do.

1280
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,679
Speaker 2: It's also interesting, you know.

1281
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,519
Speaker 1: I remember when that series came out, it got a

1282
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:43,599
lot of attention, and I think Kim Kardashian got involved

1283
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,159
in like trying to get hardened and and I'm interested

1284
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:51,679
in what your take is on this because like, obviously

1285
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:54,960
the dad was violently abusing both of them. The older

1286
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,960
one got less abuse, the younger one got a fucking ton,

1287
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:02,960
but you you still can't kill your parents, Like what

1288
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,760
is your take on that, because I'm just like, is

1289
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,480
death the appropriate reaction to that kind of abuse?

1290
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, it's a hard one. I mean,

1291
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,599
the guy was a monster. He was also you know,

1292
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:18,679
abusing because he was the manager of that this that

1293
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,400
band Manudo, and he there were a couple of cases

1294
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,079
of the there's a young boy in the band who

1295
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:31,800
was also sexually abused by him. This guy was a monster. Yeah. No,

1296
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:36,039
it's like, I don't know, do I murdering your parents?

1297
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:42,480
The answer? No, But I understand here's the thing. No,

1298
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:47,280
but no, but I understand like the dry like you're

1299
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,000
so tortured by these people, and it's like we also

1300
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:56,199
have these you know, animal brains, and it's like, I

1301
00:54:56,199 --> 00:54:59,559
think the wires get crossed and when you're in a

1302
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:03,239
lot of pain and you like need to do something

1303
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,280
about it, it's like your instinct is to take it

1304
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,320
out on the person that caused you the pain. Right, So,

1305
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:14,960
do I think it's you know, morally sound? No? Do

1306
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:21,320
I think that? Do I blame them for doing it? Also? No?

1307
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1308
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,119
Speaker 1: I think it's It's an interesting thing because I think

1309
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:31,199
what the that case being dug up again brought light

1310
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,599
to an issue that wasn't talked about when.

1311
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: They got convicted.

1312
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1313
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,519
Speaker 1: I think sexual abuse within family systems is something that

1314
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:44,280
gets ignored and to a point that it's like it

1315
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,840
is not sexual abuse, but I think any abuse of

1316
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,559
a child, whether it's physical or sexual, is what's wrong

1317
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,559
with the fabric of our society because like you fast

1318
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:57,079
forward all of that, you look, you look at every

1319
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,760
person who's mentally ill in any capacity and you say, well,

1320
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,360
what happened when you were a kid, because that's it.

1321
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,000
It's like, okay, but but how.

1322
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: Do we punish the people that are.

1323
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: Ruining our families larger than our families, ruining our society.

1324
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,079
Speaker 3: Right, because it bleeds into society, it.

1325
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,039
Speaker 1: Bleeds into everything. And I'm like, it's such a huge issue,

1326
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,119
and I was just like so grateful that when that

1327
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:20,639
came out it brought light to that conversation where it's like,

1328
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,800
do they deserve to be free? I don't know, but.

1329
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: Kind of, And I just like, I'm just like, I

1330
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,280
don't know.

1331
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,519
Speaker 1: They got sexually abused by their father their entire life.

1332
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,679
Speaker 3: They did something, the.

1333
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: Mom did nothing. They've now been in jail for twenty

1334
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:36,639
something years.

1335
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: It's like, give they're gonna die in jail.

1336
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, give them a chance to go out

1337
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,239
and make a difference and talk about this stuff and

1338
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,079
talk about how like how I handled this was not right,

1339
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:49,599
But this fucking issue needs to be handled like as

1340
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:52,079
a society, we do need to open this conversation up

1341
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,760
because I mean, like, even in my family, I'm like,

1342
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,119
the abuse that happened in my family system ruined my family,

1343
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Like the complete fabric of our family was ruined from

1344
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:06,159
a ripple effective abuse. Yes, and and even my family

1345
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:08,599
doesn't want to acknowledge that. And I'm just like, it's

1346
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:10,920
such an interesting thing because there's so much shame within

1347
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,239
family systems. They always, not always, but often protect protect

1348
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,320
the abuser because of the denial, because they're like, we

1349
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,639
don't want the narrative to belong to our family.

1350
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: Yes, it's too painful to acknowledge that somebody that you're

1351
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,880
related to could commit such a heinous act, especially on

1352
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,480
a child. It's too painful to look at. So it's

1353
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,239
like no, no, no no no no no no no no

1354
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,000
no no no no no no.

1355
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,719
Speaker 1: No, not my dad, not my grandpa, not my right.

1356
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,719
Speaker 3: But then if you were to ask your family what

1357
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,800
they I'm sure if you ask somebody in your family

1358
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,559
what they thought about, you know, child molesters, what they

1359
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:48,360
should do them, they'd be like fucking lock them up,

1360
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,719
kill them, you know. And it's like it's kind of like.

1361
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,199
Speaker 1: It's not the same parallel, but it's kind of like cheating.

1362
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,960
It's like, if you ask somebody, what do you think

1363
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,840
of cheating? Everyone's gonna say it's fucking awful. You shouldn't

1364
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,679
do it, you should never do it.

1365
00:57:59,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: Right.

1366
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,159
Speaker 1: Then, when a person cheats and you talk to them

1367
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:05,719
about that, they're like, well it was it was, you know,

1368
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,920
they like have excuses for it, they have reasons around it.

1369
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,239
Where I'm like, it's this weird thing where we can

1370
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,599
look in point at behavior and be like that's bad.

1371
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,280
But if it gets too close to us, we then

1372
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,039
like have to like protect ourselves or our own image

1373
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:20,800
or something, you know what I mean. Like I'm not

1374
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,280
including myself and somebody who's defending child monsters or cheating,

1375
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,360
but I'm just saying like it like when it gets

1376
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,639
too close, people then like change the narrative.

1377
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,519
Speaker 2: Right, It's such a strange human behavior.

1378
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:34,599
Speaker 3: It really, is it? Because it would it. I think

1379
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:37,599
what's so difficult about acknowledging things that are close to

1380
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:41,960
you is that it rocks like your core beliefs about yourself, right,

1381
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,400
which is so if you know when your core is rocked,

1382
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,079
then it's like, well then who am I?

1383
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:48,519
Speaker 2: Who am I?

1384
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,159
Speaker 1: You know, I've been living this whole life thinking this

1385
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:53,480
one thing, and now I have these facts that something

1386
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,599
else might have happened, and I don't like those facts,

1387
00:58:56,119 --> 00:58:58,440
and so it's easier for me to dissociate and deny

1388
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:00,519
those facts, which might be that like you have an

1389
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:03,599
abusive person in your family system than it is to

1390
00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:08,039
take that in and incorporate that into your story.

1391
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I think that you're right with like

1392
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,360
with it. In a case like the Menanda's brothers, what

1393
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,840
is so important about them would be sharing that story? Yeah,

1394
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,000
Because there are plenty of criminals or people who have

1395
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:25,599
you know, gone to prison for whatever, murder and blah

1396
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:28,280
blah blah, who get out and like are like functioning

1397
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,679
members of society and they go on these like you know,

1398
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:35,000
they start going to colleges and having these you know,

1399
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,280
talks and dah da da, and they become like speakers.

1400
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think speakers, especially within like the day

1401
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,400
and age of social media and like how widely things

1402
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,400
get shared. I'm like, it would be really beneficial for

1403
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,039
them to be out in the world sharing their story

1404
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:50,559
one hundred percent and not only them like anyone else

1405
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:52,920
who's been through something similar. Obviously, people aren't like killing

1406
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,079
their parents because they've been abused, But I think, you know,

1407
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:57,840
I think it's just like it's a tricky thing to

1408
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,760
talk about because it needs to be talked about, but

1409
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,480
I thin think it's so triggering, and people that have

1410
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:04,679
experienced that kind of abuse don't want to hear it

1411
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:06,639
because they don't want to relive it. And then people

1412
01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:09,320
that haven't experienced it, they're like, well that doesn't apply

1413
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,920
to me. So it's a tricky. It's a tricky thing

1414
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,960
to navigate. And I don't think like in our lifetime

1415
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,519
we're going to see an answer to it. But it's

1416
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:18,400
I'm glad the conversation is getting started at least.

1417
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh it's interesting too that people like the Menanda's brothers

1418
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:25,920
ended up, you know, life behind bars. But then Gypsy

1419
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:29,320
Rose who killed her mom, who killed her mom? You know,

1420
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,360
well had that guy kill her? But it's like she

1421
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:36,639
was just as you know, guilty in it. Yeah, And

1422
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,480
I don't blame Gypsy.

1423
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:39,639
Speaker 2: She became like an icon.

1424
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: She became an icon, and everybody's turning on her because

1425
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,679
they're like, oh, she's crazy, and it's like, what do

1426
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:45,679
you think was going to happen?

1427
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: Of course she's crazy.

1428
01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:47,679
Speaker 3: Of course she's.

1429
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: Crazy, But didn't her mom have muchasen by proxy? Did

1430
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,599
you ever watch sharp Objects on HBO.

1431
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: No, oh god, you.

1432
01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: Have to watch it, okay, oh Muonchazen by proxy is crazy.

1433
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:03,559
My mom had slight Moonschausen, but not like full blown

1434
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,159
like she would. She liked to invent problems so we

1435
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:09,199
could get attention. She said, I had a broken blood

1436
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,199
vessel on my leg literally because I fell, and she

1437
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,519
like convinced the doctor it's cancer. And now it's like

1438
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:15,280
the only scar I have on my body because she

1439
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,559
got it removed a wild She told me, I mean

1440
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,400
I do have slight scoliosis, like the tiniest amount of scoliosis.

1441
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,559
Speaker 2: She made me wear a back brace in middle school.

1442
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,039
Speaker 3: And then she was like, and then you have brain cancer. Yeah,

1443
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:30,079
So in a case like Gypsies, you go, yeah, what

1444
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:32,159
did you think was gonna happen with the girl? She

1445
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,239
was fucking she was wheelchair bound and told that she

1446
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,519
had leukemia her entire life. I don't know if it was,

1447
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:44,159
but you know, like the mom tortured her and now

1448
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,920
she's out in society and people are like, she's not

1449
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,199
a good person. Who actually we're realizing and it's like, yeah, also,

1450
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,079
what do you fucking know?

1451
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's a good person?

1452
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know? One. Yeah, I literally don't know what

1453
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:01,719
even mother Teresa. People are like, she's no, she's not,

1454
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,679
she fucking she was literally the home she was running

1455
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,760
were criminal, like the people would be dying and she'd

1456
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,639
be like, here's Adville.

1457
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: I think that the only person I can think of

1458
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,199
who is probably the closest thing to an earth angel.

1459
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:20,039
Speaker 2: Was mister Rogers. He seems sweet, he.

1460
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:21,519
Speaker 3: Seems like maybe the only one.

1461
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: But again, who knows, who knows, who knows what he

1462
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,480
was up to.

1463
01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:27,519
Speaker 3: Who knows what kind of weird extremist believes he held down?

1464
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: Who knows?

1465
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,199
Speaker 3: But maybe he didn't. Yeah, I don't know.

1466
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:31,079
Speaker 2: We'll never know.

1467
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:32,199
Speaker 3: We'll never know, never know.

1468
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about people. I don't think people

1469
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,320
are good and bad. I think we have this conversation

1470
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,320
with ourselves.

1471
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,079
Speaker 2: Where we're like, I'm a good person.

1472
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:40,199
Speaker 1: I'm a good person, right, And I'm like, I'm objectively

1473
01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:42,119
not great. Yeah, I'm like, if you look at the

1474
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:45,320
things I've done, I'm not good.

1475
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:46,199
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not.

1476
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: I do my best, but I'm not good. I think

1477
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,079
we all have this belief. I think we have to

1478
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:53,480
tell ourselves we're good people, or we're right, or we're

1479
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:57,480
just yeah, to keep ourselves going. But I'm like, I

1480
01:02:57,519 --> 01:02:59,719
don't think if you look at our actions on paper,

1481
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,159
I don't think we're great.

1482
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,159
Speaker 3: No, totally. And it's also you know, it's it's one

1483
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:10,079
of those things too, of like what is what is

1484
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:13,559
morally just behavior? Because you know it can be argued

1485
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:18,880
too that like murder isn't bad and that's like another take.

1486
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,400
I don't believe that, but like that is an argument

1487
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:24,639
right that people have of like well, who who are

1488
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:27,760
we to say that? Even? Like why is that?

1489
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,119
Speaker 1: But then who gets to decide who gets murdered? You know?

1490
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,920
It's like because the person who gets to decide can

1491
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,679
have their own agenda. And it's like you know you

1492
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,800
even oh, Mike, Mike's over here vapor dropping.

1493
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:41,159
Speaker 2: His weas so sick of us. It's like I have

1494
01:03:41,199 --> 01:03:42,039
to be high to be here.

1495
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you see it politically and

1496
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,480
across like the world globally too, where there's like atrocious

1497
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,639
things going on and people will justifies both sides. Yeah,

1498
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:54,880
and people will really believe in their core both sides

1499
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,880
of it. And I'm like that's why I don't even

1500
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,039
get involved them apathetic in terms of that. But I'm

1501
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:02,199
just like, because people will really really decide that something

1502
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:04,119
is right or wrong. I don't think any of us

1503
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:06,400
have I don't think any of us get.

1504
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: To decide that.

1505
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,159
Speaker 3: No, And I think you're right about that. Yeah, I

1506
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:11,960
think you are right about that. And I get very

1507
01:04:12,239 --> 01:04:15,400
like wound. I get very wound, and I get very

1508
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,920
into my like, well, this is what I believe is right,

1509
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,519
and this is what I believe is just. But I'm

1510
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:21,280
sure you know, like, also, what the fuck do I know?

1511
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: Really? What the fuck do you know?

1512
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 3: What the fuck do I know? Yeah?

1513
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like, you do your research and

1514
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:27,840
you make your decisions and you stand on them, and

1515
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,199
I appreciate that. I appreciate you having a point of view.

1516
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,519
I can't be bothered to have one. I'm just like,

1517
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:34,559
there's too much. I'm like literally like la la la

1518
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:35,239
la la la la la.

1519
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,599
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't cause it makes me.

1520
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: I like, see people get stressed. You get stressed, like

1521
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:40,800
you get it.

1522
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: Burns you out.

1523
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get And I'm just like, I can't give

1524
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,679
my life led to something that I ultimately can't change

1525
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,400
right now. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know.

1526
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing.

1527
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,599
Speaker 1: It's like what is what's more important? Loyalty or justice? Yeah,

1528
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:56,639
because I think people can be loyal to you know,

1529
01:04:56,719 --> 01:05:00,320
a religion or a belief system or what I but

1530
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,760
then they ignore the fact that what that system is

1531
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,000
doing is not just or it's not humane, and they

1532
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:10,000
are so blindly loyal to what they believe that they

1533
01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:13,599
don't have the capacity to look at it through the

1534
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,159
lens of is this what we're supposed to be doing?

1535
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:18,199
Speaker 3: Because it goes back to that thing of like if

1536
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,239
they did and it wasn't what they thought were they?

1537
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,559
Then who are they? So then then comes the unraveling

1538
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,639
of like, wait, I believed that I believed in this

1539
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:29,960
thing my whole life, and this isn't what I thought

1540
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,360
it was.

1541
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're just like I can't.

1542
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,159
Speaker 2: I can't.

1543
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 3: People need things to they need to cling to beliefs,

1544
01:05:39,679 --> 01:05:42,360
and it's I don't know if that's you know, right

1545
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,119
or wrong. I just think it is what it is.

1546
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's human in nature. Yeah, Mike,

1547
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:50,039
where are we.

1548
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,599
Speaker 3: At one of the three?

1549
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 4: Wow?

1550
01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: What the hell was.

1551
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,159
Speaker 2: A philosophy lesson?

1552
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1553
01:05:55,519 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: What the what the fuck was that?

1554
01:05:57,199 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 5: It's funny for like five minutes and then we just

1555
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:00,400
like got into the deep is.

1556
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: Shit and people were going to comment on this being

1557
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,639
like everything they said was actually.

1558
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:07,639
Speaker 2: Wrong and dark's stupid.

1559
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 3: So I had these conversations when I was thirteen and high.

1560
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Okay, we do have to do word of the week

1561
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,159
before we get out of here.

1562
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1563
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: Everything, It's my favorite thing in the world.

1564
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm excited for that.

1565
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,079
Speaker 1: Are you would you consider yourself a vocab slut?

1566
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,199
Speaker 3: No?

1567
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: No, see, you're like you're you're a niche smart in

1568
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,679
some areas, you're like weirdly good with history.

1569
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: Yet no I care about it. But I wouldn't say

1570
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:37,880
you couldn't quiz me on something and I'd get it right.

1571
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: I feel like you could with the French Revolution, maybe

1572
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,519
that you were like weirdly upset. Don't you have like

1573
01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:43,760
a year of the French Revolution?

1574
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,039
Speaker 3: I do. I am obsessed with the Friends for re evolution. Okay,

1575
01:06:48,239 --> 01:06:50,079
I wish I was. What do you mean, Okay, before

1576
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:51,920
you go, what do you mean by vocab slot?

1577
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,079
Speaker 2: I mean like, do you know words?

1578
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,199
Speaker 3: I see? No, and I wish I did.

1579
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: Okay, and I wish I did.

1580
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna this word. It's easy.

1581
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:03,159
Speaker 2: Do you know it? When wend w e and d wnd.

1582
01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: It's a verb no means to go forward, to wend

1583
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,039
one's way is to proceed along a giving course.

1584
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, wind whend.

1585
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,559
Speaker 2: You're gonna wind on your way, babe?

1586
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

1587
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,639
Speaker 1: I've never heard of Gretel wending their way through the

1588
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,679
forest innocently, had no idea what awaited them at the

1589
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:26,719
journey's end, wending their way okay, Gabby Lamb wending her

1590
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,719
way through.

1591
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,159
Speaker 3: The abortion way to the abortion, wending her way through

1592
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:33,880
the abortion on her way to get an abortion?

1593
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,519
Speaker 2: Is that how you would?

1594
01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: I've never heard that word. There you go?

1595
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: Wind?

1596
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,559
Speaker 3: Wow? Did you just pick that one at random?

1597
01:07:39,639 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1598
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,239
Speaker 2: I did? You thought it was easy?

1599
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:41,639
Speaker 3: No?

1600
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: No, no, I always do words that I don't know

1601
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,280
because I'm trying to get smarter. I feel like my

1602
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,800
brain stopped it like became calcified. It used to be

1603
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,119
so plastic and like absorb things. And I used to

1604
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:53,199
have facts in there, and I don't have a single fact,

1605
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:53,599
and I have.

1606
01:07:53,639 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: Like four words.

1607
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,119
Speaker 3: So to have four words, I can't string together a thought.

1608
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,840
I can't string together a sentence. It takes I'll be

1609
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,519
in in the middle of a thought and then I'll

1610
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:02,800
forget what I was saying, and I'm.

1611
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:06,519
Speaker 1: Like every day, every day, and I'm not even I

1612
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:10,159
have nothing to blame. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it used

1613
01:08:10,199 --> 01:08:11,119
to be like, oh listen.

1614
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm own drugs.

1615
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm just like, it's just who I am, Just like,

1616
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,399
actually who I am? Yeah, Okay, I love you so much.

1617
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,640
Tell everyone or they can follow you.

1618
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:23,239
Speaker 3: Love you so much. You can find me on I

1619
01:08:23,239 --> 01:08:27,279
think I'm shadow band right now, but of course all

1620
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:29,479
forms of social media. Gabby Lammy g A B b

1621
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,399
Y l A M b Y I'm on there. You'll

1622
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,199
have to type in my full name because they want

1623
01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:36,520
to keep a good woman down. I love.

1624
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: She has a great podcast called Tea Time, Tea Time.

1625
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: It's so good.

1626
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: She started during the pandemic and it was fucking brilliant

1627
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,760
and it's still going.

1628
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,039
Speaker 3: It's hey, and it's still we're still wending our way.

1629
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,279
Speaker 1: And you're still wending your way through the podcast lids.

1630
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 3: Okay, still wending our way.

1631
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: I will say I've had some people come to my

1632
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,680
shows being like I when you came on my last podcast,

1633
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,600
They're like, I'm a fan of Gabby Lamb and I

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now I love you.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so cute.

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01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, only it was only one. I made it seem like.

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Speaker 3: It was a Lotah, you made it. They were knocking

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down the Yeah, okay, well that one. That's sweet.

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Speaker 5: It was one person in Phoenix, Arizona, and she had

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a personality disorder.

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Speaker 2: That does fit your fans.

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Speaker 3: Anxious.

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Speaker 2: She was like talking to me over her shoulder and

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like peaking. It was like the Kim Kardashian me, like

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peaking through a bush. She's like, she's peak.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I'm a fan of Tea Time, anyway, can

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tell Gaby that I that's also my cousin's girlfriend is obsessed.

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Speaker 2: With you guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I when I was home, lads, She's like,

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she told me, like almost secretly. She's like, I submitted

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a story and they read it. She's like, but I

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didn't tell Cody because it was about my exploit friend.

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Stop Like funny, wait, that's really cute.

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Speaker 2: The Tea Time fan base goes hard. The fan base Fox.

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Speaker 3: There's twelve of them and they.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them. They ride ride till fucking dawn.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm obsessed with you. Things for coming, Okay,

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I love you. I'll never see you again because of

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moving to Florida.

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Speaker 3: And that's and you're wending your way through Florida, and

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that's wending.

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Speaker 2: And that's un wending my way across the country.

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Speaker 3: And that's brothers, and out of your career and wending,

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wending my way out of comedy honestly a dream and

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honestly free the Menanda's brothers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye, m

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Speaker 3: M