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Speaker 5: Here live from the Panini Senior Ball or cruverage brought
to you by First American Bank and Trust, and we
are very excited to have tire Montgomery join us now
receiver from John Carrol, somebody we've talked about all morning long.
And tire Man, first off, before you get to your story,
which is is an incredible story, congratulations man so far
on performing here at the Senior Ball And Man, I'm
playing this game eighteen years ago, so a long time ago,
but I still remember the pressure of being here playing
in this game, man, and you have certainly risen to
the top the first two days. Has it been has
it been exciting? Nerve wracking? Like, how has this experience
been for you? Coming from John Carroll?
Speaker 6: Uh, I wouldn't say nervous a story word. I think
more anxious. Yeah, you know, coming from a D three school,
I think I just want to so discuss and sow
all the guys. As you know, just because I'm a
D three guy doesn't mean I'm a D three player,
And I just want to show down, hang with the
best of them, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So, Tyer, we so yesterday after practice, So
you made some great plays the first day, and I
was like, all right, cool, it makes some great plays.
Then come out the second day do the same thing.
And I'm sitting there and I'm watching. Of course you're
making like the big plays that everybody kind of sees
that are kind of making the rounds right now. But
I watched you yesterday rout running, crisp rout run and everything,
like all the little things, even when you didn't get
the ball, it looked looked really good. So I'm like afterwards,
I'm like, all right, let's look up this guy's story,
like where's he Frond, Like what's where is John Carroll?
Like you know this is And so we started looking
up the story and so so we're we're ESPN and
Baton Rouge. So I was like, man, this guy's got
some he's from the Woodlands, he's from the Houston area.
He uh. Started look up the story and it's an
incredible story. And so we we kind of told our
listeners in Louisiana kind of about this the story of
how you've you made it to John Carroll and how
you made it to the senior ball and it all
started with basketball, right, Yeah, So you grew up to
you're a basketball player, no football, no football, that's right.
And so you grew up in around the Woodlands area
and you actually were at LSU for a semester, isn't
that right? Yeah, yes, sir, And so you were walking
on on basketball. Okay, so who what what year was that?
Nineteen twenty nineteen fantastic and so frea good year for LSU. Yeah, football, right,
all yeah, that's awesome. And so how did the whole All? Right,
basketball has been my life. I'm good at basketball, I'm
trying to do this and that. You leave LSU and
you go back home, and then all of a sudden
you decide, hey, let's just try a new sport.
Speaker 6: How did that? How'd that come about? So the reason
why I had to go back home was my mother
got sick. Okay, so I had to come home, and
you know, it was around the COVID era, so a
lot of stuff was shut down and the vision for
basketball was no longer it. So I was just going
to try to get a job and just try to
find my way in life.
Speaker 1: And you know, with COVID you couldn't even do that.
Speaker 6: So then one day me and my brother was in
the backyard throwing the football round. He was like, look, bro,
you might as well do this. You ain't, so I'm like,
I mean, I guess why not?
Speaker 1: So then.
Speaker 6: I started like working out running rouse with my brother.
He taught me how to run my first ever route,
which was a slant route. I didn't know how to
do anything hurt. So the end up been rolling to
the University of Houston. I tried to walk on there,
but you know, around COVID time, a lot of guys
got that COVID year, so they came back right so
they told me there was no more roster spots available
for me. So then I was like, well, I got
to figure out a way of how, you know, I
get some tape because I don't have any high school
take to get on the college roster. So then I
ended up uploading some routes on air onto Facebook, and
there was a guy named Adie Franca who has a
flag football team out of Miami, Florida. He was like, look, bro,
we got a tournament in Vegas. You might as well
come out. Let's see what you got. So I went
out there, I did my thing, and I ended up
getting the opportunity to be on the Olympics for flag football.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah wow.
Speaker 6: They told me for I to do that, I would
lose all my college jus ability. Yeah, And I was like,
you know, my goal wasn't to play flag football like
right college football. So then Eddie Franca actually knew a
guy named Shorts do Shorts is the office of quality
control coach for the forty nine ers Right and at
the time he was at Maszoo. So I formed like
a highlight tape together my flag football clips.
Speaker 1: Eddie helped me get.
Speaker 6: Into Deuce andduce it to like Mazoo, and a couple
other schools and a lot of schools were all interested
in me.
Speaker 1: But the only thing was that.
Speaker 6: I never put on short pass my life, right, Yeah
that was a fly yeah yeah, So it made sense
it was valid. So then my my film ended up
getting into Nickel State, and that was my first goal.
I was at in twenty twenty two, so they took
the chance from me. I walked on there the first
year I was there. I was ineligible because I switched
my major like four or five times in school and
I didn't have enough credit towards the designated major. So
twenty twenty three year came around still a walk on.
I was a starter at the beginning of the season.
I ended up missing the game because I had an
ankle injury. I had sprained my right ankle. So once
I came back, I kind of just lost my spot.
Speaker 1: You know, you know that goes. So then I had
to figure out what to do.
Speaker 6: So I entered the transfer portal and the n CUBA
told me that I had no more D.
Speaker 1: Want elgibility left.
Speaker 6: So I was like, well, you know, I kind of
gotta go down. I only had D two D three
years left, right, So then I.
Speaker 1: Didn't know that's the thing that.
Speaker 4: Was like something you only had so many in this
but you could go down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they said that because since I enrolled into college,
my clock has started always been a four time student.
Speaker 1: Gotcha.
Speaker 6: So then Eddie, the same guy who ran the flag
football team, knew my head coach Jeff Barman, who's not
a head coach for Bucknell at John Carroll and coach
B hit me up and it was like, look, tal like,
we love your film. Like within the first thirty seconds,
he knew, like.
Speaker 1: You know, he wanted me as a player.
Speaker 6: And I don't know if people noticed, but John Carroll
has over forty plus lums in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We were going down the list, don't you little incredible?
But you have to do like when you started talking
to him like, all right, we got a google best,
we got to see what.
Speaker 6: I started googling it, and you know a lot of
people don't know about that school, and I saw like
Nick Casserio, Frank Wrosses, like people down the street. That's
John Carroll Lombs. And then they play with my head
coach as well. You know, Brian Poland is my a
d who is now the head coach?
Speaker 1: Yeah he was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So then he sold me on that. And then
after that, I'm like, shoot, I'm going to John Kelly.
You know you can get that's right. Then the rest
was history after that.
Speaker 1: How was that going up to Ohio? It's in the
Cleveland area. Yeah, yeah, you know it's beautiful.
Speaker 6: It's just too cold, you know, coming from Houston going
to Cleveland, that's just a big weather weather shop me.
But I mean other than that, you know, I had
a great time up there, and you know, it just
was a blessing to my coaches to you know, take
the chance on me and let me like mess up
to learn the game. You know, I really had to
get my feet wet, and I think they let me
do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were there for two years. Yeah, I
was there for two years. Yeah. Yeah, So like we've
seen we've seen the I felt basketball players that were
college basketball players that never really played that go and
have success in the NFL. Well, you've kind of been
playing now you've been playing football. How was it like
the first time you put that helmet on, that shoulder pads?
You know, you say your brother taught you how to
run a slant route in the yard, you know what
I mean? Like that was had to been like a
steep learning curve because it's you know, even the basketball
players in college that have gone to play in the
NFL at least say I think they played high school ball,
you know what I mean? But come like first time out, Like,
how was it like? Were you able? Like how was
your coach? Did you have any coaches that were just
like this guy was like a catalyst for me to
like learn the position.
Speaker 6: Well, first off, when I first put on shoulder pads,
I remember I was in the locker room. I had
asked the guys like how do I how do I get?
You know, I got a few trainers that help me
along the way. A footwork King, he's actually a football
trainer out in Houston, Texas. And then there's another trainer
named Timboute with three six nine sports and fittingess he
held me along the way. But as far as like
releases and stuff like that, I kind of just when
I got to Nicholas, they used to come to YouTube
because a lot of the stuff I picked up off
for y yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now, as far as like learning the smartest of the games,
my receiver coaches along the way and my head coaches,
I used to send them like text messages one and
two o'clock in the morning, just asking them, like, you know,
how do I learn this rope call? Except but I'll
watch old spring clips of people that it wasn't even me,
it was just other players in the past, and just
will learn from their mistakes and just you know, take
what they did right, and take what they did wrong
and apply it to my game. So you know, I
knew what to do once I got in the game.
So I think just over time, I think applying myself
and using the resources around me, because that's the one
thing I didn't do in basketball. I always kind of
just let my athleticism get by, and I think once
I failed in basketball, I knew exactly what to do correctly.
Once I got the football like I had to use
you know, the people around me that were willing to
help me. So I think that's just what helped me overall.
Speaker 5: So you went to another All Star game, correct America,
and that's how they heard about you. I think Drew
Fabian was telling his story that he started getting calls, Hey, Drew, like,
you've got to have this guy down and look, I
know he played Division III, but just trust me, you
got to have down here. So for you, you go
to that game, you probably think that that's it and
you're just going to continue to get ready for the
draft and probably didn't think you'd end up here in Mobil.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I mean shout out to coach Scott Phillips first,
because you know, he's the director that the American Ball
so you know, I just want to thank him for
letting me come out there and do my thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Once that happened, I kind of I'm a big like
journalist guy. I need to manifest and put all my
goals and stuff into my journal and I write it
as if it already happened. So I think the main
thing for me was like I just believed in myself.
I went out there and did my thing.
Speaker 1: And I remember the.
Speaker 6: Morning of the American Game, the American Bowl game, Coach
Scott called me. I was like, are you ready to
catch some pass for me today? And I was like, yeah,
he's all right, good because you just got to invite
to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, like you know, my heart shot.
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, Like everything I've been asked for
is really happening. So you know, you know, it's a
blessing I'm here. I mean, I want to think Coach
Drew for you know, let me come here and just
showing my abilities and showing, you know, everybody that you know,
I can hang with the best of them, even though
I've just been playing for two and a half years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they don't saying iron sharpens iron, right,
So you're getting a chance to sharpen your skills and
learn different release techniques, getting out of in and out
of break techniques against the best of the best, right, Like,
you can't get any better than this competition right here.
How do you think you've improved, you know, through the
American Bowl and then this week it's going against the best.
You got one thing to do, Like, there's only one
option you get better or you get beat right, So
it's like, have you what you've seen this week? Do
you see yourself improving already? Yeah? I see myself improving
big time.
Speaker 6: You know, coming from Division three, you don't really see
press man coverage, like especially with me.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of cloud coveras gonna beverage me. Yeah, yeah,
they backed off me.
Speaker 6: So coming out here it was like I won some reps,
I lost some reps, but the reps that I've really
learned the most from the reps that I lost, because
it's like, Okay, I know exactly what to do next
time or when I go back home, I know what
part of my games I need to clean up. It's
just I haven't really been able to test like my
releases against man coverage and stuff like that, because like,
you know, I didn't see that at all the two
years I've been playing in John Carroll. So you know,
I've just been you know, not being myself about beat
myself up about it. You know, these guys are talented
as well, and I just you know, I got to
take it for what it is and just keep improving
my game, keep elevating.
Speaker 5: What have the meeting has been like for you all
thirty two teams are here and you know, obviously they
want to get to know you.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've had to tell your story.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, a couple of times here before.
Speaker 5: But like, what's some of the feedback that you've got,
maybe from some of the coaches after being here a
couple of days and doing really well.
Speaker 6: That we all bleed red, like, you know, just because
I'm just because I'm Division three. Don't look at it
like you know, you know this guy's from SEC or
he's from ACC and like just look at it like
you know, that's just another player across from you that
just want a different color helmets. So, you know, the
main thing at first, before we even started practices with that,
the coaches just wanted to see, like I guess how
I was going to compete, like, you know, if I
was gonna hold my own. And I feel like so far,
you know, I've been doing that, you know, so you know,
I just trying to be a man of my work.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well, certainly keep losing from or keep learning
from the bad reps, because that's how you get better
and keep making the players that are there. And I
love what you said about like writing things down you
like the power of the mind to say, like the
power of believing and and and so what's your journal
says next for you?
Speaker 6: So I had three steps once I got the American
Bowl invite. It was the American Boat, the Senior Bowl,
and then the combo.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, if it happens, it happens.
Speaker 6: If it doesn't, you know, just get ready for Pro
Day and just get ready for the Jeff and get
ready for the next chapter.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, well, I think from always saying get ready
to put on the NFL helmet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Man, congratulations on not only just like
getting here, but getting here and then performing really well.
And I know you still got to practice today. I
know you want to go out there and do the
same thing. You got a game coming up on Saturday,
so you've got room to continue to build that resume.
But so far, man, you've done everything you've got to do,
uh to impress all thirty two teams here.
Speaker 1: So congratulations on that. Thank you so much. Thank you
good enough to.
Speaker 4: Join us here again from John Carroll.
Speaker 1: Great story, great story. Right, We will take a break.
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was pretty fun. Tyra Montgomery John Carroll Division III receiver
with an incredible story that started at.
Speaker 1: LSU, And it started at LSU if if you are
just tuning in and you missed the interview we just
had with tire Montgomery, I would do yourself a favor
and go watch it. You can like fast forward through
our voices if you want to. Just go listen to
him speak and tell his story while you talk about
perseverance and the power of the mind and the power
of your mindset and belief and painting a picture in
your head of a goal and not just taking like
the easy road and like what's right in front of
you had goal in mind when he first decided to
go the football route. How incredible was it? We were
just talking about this at break. The kid was offered
to go be on the Olympic team for flag football. Yeah,
the Olympic team. He had never played tackle football in
his life and he just started by playing catch with
his brother. All of a sudden, all of a sudden,
he's getting told no because of COVID, you can't there's
no roster spots, blah blah blah, you've never played tackle football, Like,
why would we make a roster spot for you? And
he gets offered to play on the Olympic flag football team?
Speaker 4: Like the Olympics is every kid's dream.
Speaker 1: And guess what he turned him down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that would mess up my eligibility.
Speaker 1: Because you don't get you're not eligible anymore.
Speaker 4: Probably would be now right you came back then in
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was he said, No, that's not where I
want to go with this. I want to go to
a place that everybody's telling me no right now. But anyway,
you can check out that interview on our socials on YouTube.
It was great and we're cheering for hard to cheer
for that guy.
Speaker 5: I am rooting for him no matter where he goes,
even the Raiders.
Speaker 4: How about that, even the Raiders. I'd root for that guy.
Speaker 5: I would too. Man, what a great story, A great
young man. I love the journal stuff. And great question
by you. He's like, I write down my goals even
before they happen, and like things that I am saying
are going to happen, like who American Bowls, Senior Bowl
combine that many people get the invite from the American
Bull to the Senior Bowl East West Shrine Game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure that happens all the time, the American Bull.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know what
the hell the American Bull is I know the Hula
Bowl and shrine. I don't even know if the Hula
bull is a thing. You're right, I ain't never heard
the American Bull.
Speaker 1: I wonder what once we got look at what the
American bole was.
Speaker 5: He goes out there and then gets an invite because
Drew Fabianies. I don't know if you remember Matt, but
on Monday he told us like about the guy that's like, hey, yeah,
they kept telling me you've got to have this guy mobile.
But obviously we didn't know who it was at the time.
Fast forward here on Thursday, we definitely know who it is.
So it's a great story. It's a great example of
betting on yourself, not giving up, not taking no for
an answer, and believing that you are the person you
think you can be. And remarkable story because he is
out here cooking dbs that are power for dbs, guys
that are going to hear their name in Aprils draft
in Pittsburgh and hopefully he gets that Combine invite. Hopefully
they don't overthink it and they give him an opportunity
to go shine on that stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he'll be there. I hope.
Speaker 5: So you know sometimes the NFL and the combine invites are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like, look, everybody can make a play. Everybody,
you know, everybody can make a highlight film and look good,
Like any quarterback can make a highlight film no matter
what your age is and look like Joe Montagna for
a few plays. So like the can go, you can
go make a play, yeah at the Senior Bowl, but
to consistently do it, to consistently be the one that
the play you make is the one that everybody on
your team loses their mind and starts in a row.
Yesterday two of them to end practice after having it
the first day as well. Yeah, but it's just not
that it's not a fluke, it's the route right, and
it's a consistency. And how many twenty two year olds,
I don't know how old he is, twenty three, twenty four,
whatever he is, how many have that mindset of just
what he's doing, so good for him, wish him what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you said it and it's a good point.
Like Antonio Gates played high school football. Antonio Gates was
recruited by coach Saban to play in Michigan State. He
actually like signed with him Jimmy Graham played high school football.
Speaker 1: Like all these.
Speaker 5: Guys played high school football.
Speaker 1: They knew how to put the packs.
Speaker 5: Straps and I got a buck with it.
Speaker 1: At Nichols, I had to ask people on the team
how to put the the shoulder pads over there.
Speaker 5: YouTube, so like a completely different story than even those right.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing he said. His nickname Nichols
I believe was YouTube because he was YouTube and releases
and YouTube and like tops of routes and how to
put pads on. That's the nickname man.
Speaker 5: Very cool, very cool rooting for Tyra Montgomery to get
that Combine invite, And like Matt said, I I hope
he truly gets that opportunity to go to Indy and uh,
you know, showcase what he can do there, like I do.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 5: I don't know how he would test, but he deserves
to at least have the opportunity to go out there
and do that.
Speaker 4: And I hope he finds his way. I think he
for sure gets into a camp.
Speaker 5: Hope he finds his way to hearing his name in
the April draft coming up in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: So very cool story.
Speaker 5: Certainly somebody that's been a standout here at the Senior Bowl,
I mean walk on l s U basketball player, to
walk on player at Houston, to flag football, to you know,
putting together flag football highlights to send to tackle football coaches.
Speaker 1: He didn't even like get the years?
Speaker 4: Was it Nichols as well there for a little bit.
Speaker 5: Got Wally pipped. He said, got lost his spot because
of injury.
Speaker 1: Yep, I know, you know how it goes.
Speaker 4: He could have quit about five different times.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 5: He's definitely been a star, not only in the national
team but here in Mobile. What about some other players
that stand out to you because another smaller school guy
that we had on the show on Monday, Cole Peyton,
has made some really good plays.
Speaker 1: Now he's a lefty.
Speaker 5: It's hard to find a lefty where're like, oh man,
that looks smooth. It just it doesn't happen very often.
Even the really good lefties does not really look smooth.
It looks different coming out of their hand. But I
feel like he has elevated himself. He's made some really
good throws, some tight window throws, some back shoulders, some
throws to the tight end where he's going to the
back of the helmet of the defender, allowing his guy
to go make a play.
Speaker 1: He made two or three of those over the last
couple of days. I looked it up.
Speaker 4: He's actually projected to be a fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: Does he really? Yeah? Yeah, I he certainly looks apart.
He's kind of got some jacked arm muscles. My only
fear six my one knock on him. He kind of
looks like he might have a six pack, And we
all know that there's no good quarterbacks that have a
six pack, So maybe not do so many setups. I
don't know, it's not confirmed. It just kind of got
that feeling.
Speaker 5: His is North Dakota strong nough so maybe he got
a six pack from like carrying logs through the snow,
Like maybe he's.
Speaker 1: Got that's fine Russian, But seriously named me a quarterback,
right that Super Bowl winning quarterback Jalen Hurts would be
the only one. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Patrick mahomes famous dad Bod, but usually manning famous dad Bod.
Speaker 1: We could say Jayleen Hurts not very consistent, you know,
so if you're a quarterback, make sure you do not
get a six pack.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say he's different just because of where he
grew up again six to two, two hundred and thirty pounds,
four seven forty ten and one fourth size hands.
Speaker 1: Ye got some mids on him watching practic. Diego Pavia
has been the best quarterback in the on the national
team national team, on the American team. It's kind of
a heavyweight battle right now between nuss Meyer and Luke Altmeyer.
Luke Aalmeyers impressed me a whole lot, really great arm talent,
really handsy, like flips it off the light, real handsy
at the end. Now it kind of gets balls gotten
away from him a couple of times on some high throws,
just kind of getting a little too whippy with it.
But ness Meyer has done a really nice job so far.
He's playing with a really you could you could tell
in his training he's playing with a real wide platform,
real wide base and not having to not stride in
which is what we saw his issues this past season,
trying to change his mechanics, falling backwards a lot, trying
to throw, trying to create some sort of torque, use
his shoulder use his arm, uses legs a little bit, markus.
He couldn't use his abs because of the injury. Well,
right now, what you see now the good quarterbacks when
he used to be you know, you wanted a kind
of a narrow shoulder with bass and you wanted to
stride out to create power. No, it's a wide base
right now. We could look at how Drew Brees played,
Tom Brady played all the go wide base, wide base,
and you're all creating your power from one rotational we'll
circle all around you. You're not striding out anymore. And
we see that he's playing with that wide base, and
it also prevents you from going backwards. So it's just
another indicator to me that there was certainly some issues
that he was working through this season. Oh the ball
looks completely different. Oh my gosh. I mean Elandra posted
that picture yesterday of the scoreboard and it kind of
probably pisses lsu fans off a little bit of Day one.
The furthest ball thrown in the air, Nusmier, the fastest
ball throwns Meyer. So Kidney Steel spin it. But certainly
I've been ob pested with all the quarterbacks, all six
quarterbacks certainly look the part deserved to be or Taylor
Green has made some really nice throws. Mechanically, he is
a little bit shouldery but from a mechanical standpoint, it
didn't have like that that way up. He's more of
a guider, but there's a lot of successful quarterbacks that
are like that. He looked a little bit more comfortable
under center yesterday. Yeah, just another day. That first day.
Looked like a baby deer on ice, a little bit
underneath the center. Just so tall. He's six six, My god,
he's he's gigantic, but he's very impressive. I can tell
you those quarterbacks that first time they get in a
situation where they're throwing the NFL the duke, that ball
is touched by Heaven for sure, it's beautiful. So they're
spinning it. They're all doing well. But Diego Pavio. I
have been impressed with him. He does play with the
chip on his shoulder, and you got to interview him, yeah,
yesterday as well. Yeah, and we're trying to get that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're trying to see if we can get
it to play on here. Dennis, wake up so you
can send that to me. Truly, just because you're not
a morning show guy, Dennis, doesn't mean you can't wake
up early. Burg is a worm. He was, look he
was he's been coached. He's been coached, you know, to
talk to the media. H He obviously knew CD and
I and played in the SEC and so I think
that made me a little bit more comfortable. So we
had a conversation with him, but he still looked. I
asked him. I was like, I know how you play,
I know how you are. You got chip on your shoulder.
It's kind of what you know. You use his motivation.
I was like, what do you want to show everybody
this week? He said that I'm the best player in
the class. He didn't say best quarterback. He didn't say
the best player here. He said the best player in
the class. That was the first thing that he said.
So he still believes that he is a starting NFL
quarterback that is better than anybody else in this draft class.
Speaker 1: And you said it. His delivery is tightened up, a
little bit softened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yeah, you know, no curse words, no curse words.
The first time I spar at diego on where he
didn't trans I had forgotten that we had him at
media Day, I guess it would have been and like
in the first thirty seconds, I'm like, thank god, this
is serious.
Speaker 1: XOM not OTV because of but.
Speaker 5: He's you know, he's been coached obviously you can tell. Look,
I don't hate confidence, and he's got the ultimate confidence.
And I also and I told him this, I was like,
he elevates the play of those around him.
Speaker 1: And is that something you've always had?
Speaker 5: Is that something that just happened at Vanderbilt, because it
seems like everybody around you kind of tries to match
your energy. He has that ability. Now he is five
to nine and he is let's see what's that have
on here? Because you kept saying seven eights. This was
the even lower. It says five to nine and a half,
so down on it. So I don't know, but he's
definitely fine.
Speaker 1: It doesn't like if you can make it old.
Speaker 5: Katie last night I said, She's like, well, how tall
is I'm like, well, he's looking up to me, so so.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that tells you. I think she said, oh.
Speaker 1: No, he looked like he's looking at you like I
was looking at some of those tight ends yesterday when
I was asking him our four questions immediately exactly tall boys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So like yeah, he's he's not a tall fella.
Speaker 1: But you know what, he's completed more passes over the
middle than everybody else, especially down the field, which has
been impressive. And that the national team, which is the
team he is on, their centers have been so late
snapping the ball, even more so than the American And
so even in these team situations where man, there's nothing
worse than getting the ball late and everybody else is
moving except for you. As a quarterback, you're getting stepped
on come from under center. You haven't really done it
much in your career. But he's still in all that
chaotic environment, he's doing the best about still getting his
head around reading the middle of the field, and I've
been pressed. He's made more throws over the middle of
the field than anybody else.
Speaker 4: Will he get drafted in the first I don't know.
Speaker 5: He's got six back either, so pretty good, I don't
think so. Will he get drafted in the first five rounds?
Speaker 1: Hmm, I just don't know. I feel like there's going
to be a run on quarterbacks in the fifth, sixth,
seventh round for whatever reason. Maybe maybe he bumps into
the fourth. I think he's going to fall in that
four to six range, probably, especially if he can if
he continues to perform well here, which he's doing. I
think he looks like the best competitor, elevating the people
around him, making the plays that are there of his
team right now at the quarterback position. That's not a
slight to anybody else. Everybody's playing well. Just he's made
more plays and look more comfortable doing it. So yeah,
I think there's a chance. But I think that fifth
plus or minus one round is probably a good good spot.
Speaker 5: Do you like my comp for his career Gardner Minshew?
Not ever like, hey, we're moving forward with Gardner Minshew,
but starter ability. If our guy goes down, we still
feel good about where we.
Speaker 1: Can get to. Gonna play a long time in the NFL.
Speaker 5: When he comes in, he's got this confidence about him
where it's not having to be a vanilla game plan.
I feel like he can have again. Gardner Minshew's had
a nice career. He started plenty of games in the NFL.
He's had some success. Yeah, Goman, he's going to play
for more years.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of quarterbacks that kind of fit
that mold that career path. The one thing that all
those guys do have is being like the epitome of
a team player and the pit I don't know if
he settles for I don't know if his mindset, how
he's going to handle not being the guy right right
like publicly and somebody like that. Those are the questions that, yeah,
that people are trying to get answered. Now. Now it
might be great, well, like he didn't handle coming in
second to the Heisman very well. I would say poor
to quite poor. Yeah, So that's just those are the questions.
You can tell that he's got a team around him.
He softened his messaging a lot, but he's you can
see I like that you were saying, like he sawved
his messaging, but he still had to get that little
diegoism in.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, for sure, because somebody that I know he's
he said multiple times that he's a big of Johnny Manziel,
and he just went on a podcast with him and
their friends, their buds. Johnny Manziel was never a backup,
and Johnny Manziel had a chance in Cleveland. It was over,
that was it, and Johnny Manziel had kind of that
same streak of confidence and you know, believing he was
the best. And to your point, and you've been in
this role when you're not the guy, You've got to
be the ultimate teammate. There had to be Aaron Rodgers
eyes and ears on the sideline right when he came up.
Speaker 1: Still have a job to do, yeah, and it's not
the job you want to be doing, right, but you
still have a role on the team.
Speaker 5: It's when we asked you to play, you got to go,
and you certainly did that and played well anytime you
had to come in. But also when Aaron Rodgers came
off to the sideline, Hey, Matt, what did you see?
You got to give him the best information and not
trying to like take his job at every moment. If
it happened and it presented himself, you go play. But
you got still signals you do like you do have
to do things to help the team win. And to
your point, I don't know if that is something that
would intrigue a dig But.
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't, we don't, we'll find out.
Those are the questions though, that I'm sure scouts are
coming in this week and trying to get answered. So
but he certainly has done everything on the field this
week so far to garner the respect, certainly the confidence
and you know, confidence of someone to at least taking
the drought like he can do it if he throwing
passes over the middle with this offensive line center snapp
of the ball lake. Those all show me that he
is okay making those things that the height should not
be a concern. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5: We will step away. We've got more OTB coming your way.
We still got our guys, chef Michael Johnson set to
join us to answer all your munchy questions, and our
number three will continue breaking down the Senior Bowl. And
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn
live from the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl and
mobile presented it by First American Bank and Trust.
Speaker 5: All Right, welcome back in oh tb here live from
the Panini Senior Ball and of course our coverage brought
to you by First American Bank and Trust.
Speaker 1: We got hey, we got some gifts here. Let me
turn you up.
Speaker 5: Sorry you were talking, You were having a conversation with
the Green Bay Packer guys.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to let you do it. So
I was gonna come back. But that goal.
Speaker 5: Every year we get a little love, we get a
little sauce here, shout out. But uh, this year we
got a new name tags on our sauce that we
get braught to us from one of our loyal LSU
fans here living in the Mobile area.
Speaker 4: Mine says cannon ball head. JH love that.
Speaker 1: Huh, Mine says man bun got hers on there. Uh yeah,
cannonball head, I love that. Uh.
Speaker 5: For t Bob T number two, Bryce Underwood a bear,
you got an empty diet coke bottle here because you
gave love to Michigan and Bryce Underwood tea.
Speaker 1: So that's what you get. No sauce for you, t Bob. Yep,
there's a little bit of die coke left in that
thing too. Yeah, and that's just to throw at him.
That's the backwasher. Uh yeah.
Speaker 5: So hey, I did make a comment about never cheering
for the defense. If my guy Blake Baker is listening, Blake,
always cheer for your defense, obviously.
Speaker 4: Just not anybody else's defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go go Tigers. Yeah, but I mean outside of
LSU defense. Yeah, defense is all the worst. Yeah, I
tell my got Bobby Carpenter all the time, like people
that weren't smart enough to play on offense. Which guy
go go coach? No, go ahead? This gap or that gap? Yeah,
Seaball hit ball, which kind of brings out the question,
how did Scott a big get on offense? That's a
great question. That's a great question.
Speaker 5: He feels like a mic linebacker, yep, an old school
like Sam linebacker who would just like playing in an
under defense and just tilt and just wait for somebody
to come hit him.
Speaker 1: Yep. He's a guy on the swat teams. That's that's
the doorbuster. He's a juggernaut from X men Cam. Wait
till we get the I don't know what it's called
the battering ram. Now I got it. Put my bike
coming on. Oh man, anyway, can't wait to try the sauce?
Speaker 4: Are you talking to from the packers?
Speaker 1: Got from you were there? Scout?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a chance to see the scout that
actually was like fought for me, probably the hardest for
the charges and draft me still doing it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: It's like, man, y'all, like I know, like it's a profession.
So yeah, but it's like you're a lifer.
Speaker 1: All the all the scouts that were in Green Bay
that were I told you there was, there's everybody that
gets drafted, they got guys that fight for them. All
the guys that drafted me ended up being gms different places. Snyder,
John Snyder in a longtime GM with the Seahawks, is
one of the regiment Neils with the Raiders, John Eric
who is now the GM with the Packers. I saw
Elliott Wolf who's with the Patriots the other day, a
guy that that was fought for me in the seventh round.
I'm for whatever reason, I'm blanket is name or not.
He was a gym for the Chiefs for a long time. Man.
You can't even think of the guy that fall for me.
It was the Browns. I remember, didn't tell me fought
for me. The Foxhole guy must have meant a lot
to you. He does absolutely speaking.
Speaker 5: You mentioned you said the Browns. There the new head
coach for the Cleveland Browns. Yes, somebody that we know
very well, former LSU receiver coach Todd Munkin.
Speaker 4: That was a long time ago. But Neil Monk left
US to.
Speaker 1: Go to the NFL.
Speaker 3: Thin.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, So when he was at Georgia, I
had a chance to talk to him a bunch and yeah,
for sure, he recruited me at Oklahoma State. He came
with less to LSU, was there for two years. He
went to the NFL from US. He was always an
NFL guy. He's tried to come back to college. He
was a head coach at Southern Miss and tried a
couple of different times. He came back to Georgia and
had success. He was a coordinator during all his championship runs,
but he always finds his way back to the National
Football League. He was the Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator. But
now he is the head coach of the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: So, man, I got a lot of love for my guy, Monk.
Speaker 5: That is the hardest job, maybe in all of sports,
is the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. I'm wishing
him nothing but the best. But it is an uphill battle,
to say, an uphill battle in like five inches of
snow that has a five inch layer of ice underneath that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they call it hard rock mining. There. Being the
head coach for the Browns and a lot of the
positions that are to be filled. I think there's only
two availabilities left in the NFL, the head coaching job
that is the Cardinals and the Raiders, and two positions
that you no, you're probably taking that job if it's
always been your dream to be an NFL head coach,
and you'll take anything, but my god, the divisions that
each one of those teams is going to jump into.
Can you imagine if you're the Cardinals and jumping in
a division with the Seahawks and the Rams, and the Niners,
and the Raiders jumping in with the Broncos and the
Chiefs aren't going to be down for long. Chargers. Those
basically three playoff teams basically three playoff teams on each
of in those divisions. So probably the last two most desirable.
Of course, the Raiders probably a little bit more because
they do have the first overall pick. I know they're
completing some second interviews with guys right now, but those
are the two jobs left side munkin to the Browns,
which is actually, if you're looking at it, the divisionally,
probably yeah, not too terrible. You don't have any Juggernauts
as of right.
Speaker 4: Now Ravens starting over at head coach.
Speaker 5: The Bengals should have started over at head coach, the
Steelers starting over at head coach.
Speaker 1: So yeah, to your point, and speaking of I know
we're about to go to break, but that press conference
with Mike McCarthy with the Steelers was awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's uh, we can hit on that.
Speaker 5: We can hit on that because obviously you'll be able
to give great insight on him and what Pittsburgh means
to him and why he got emotional as he did
in that press conference and when he was announced the
head coach for the Steelers. We'll take a break. More
OTV here live from the Panini Senior Bowl.
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one more day of Senior Bowl practice.
Speaker 1: A little bit later on.
Speaker 5: I know Matthew's got a big flag football championship game.
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