Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: Hey Gary, now your face is graduated to acceptable for
Speaker 2: a sixty six year old.
Speaker 3: You're climbing up the ladder. Thank you, congratulations. Ah, my
Speaker 3: heart is full.
Speaker 1: What else is going on?
Speaker 3: Time for what's happening? Wow?
Speaker 1: We mentioned this in the first hour. More than fifty
Speaker 1: thousand La County workers walking picket lines to demand higher pay.
Speaker 1: As Michael Monks from KFI News mentioned earlier, it's kind
Speaker 1: of a time where you want to read the room
Speaker 1: right with them picketing for higher pay when they're brethren
Speaker 1: for the La City LA City departments are just getting
Speaker 1: laid off. This strike could mean closures or disruptions at libraries,
Speaker 1: healthcare clinics, administrative offices across La County. Union leaders say
Speaker 1: the two day walkout out that began last night comes
Speaker 1: because of failed negotiations for a new contract after the
Speaker 1: last one inspired expired back in March.
Speaker 4: We also mentioned the dire straits that the county is in.
Speaker 4: The County Board of Supervisors today is expected to approve
Speaker 4: a settlement of more than six the eight hundred claims
Speaker 4: of sexual abuse perpetrated by juveniles in juvenile facilities or
Speaker 4: foster care that goes back decades. This would probably be
Speaker 4: about a four billion dollar settlement and is considered to
Speaker 4: be the costliest payout in county history.
Speaker 1: Can I have some sad music please, so that we
Speaker 1: can all cope?
Speaker 3: Body, body, body, body, body, boody body.
Speaker 1: I mean that what kind of helps the news a
Speaker 1: little bit, but this is kind of sad stuff. Enjoy
Speaker 1: the sun now because it's going to get it still
Speaker 1: own out, cooler, cloudier, and a chance of ragin by
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 3: Did we do this last weekend?
Speaker 1: Our friend Henry from KTLA says, yes, temperatures today are great,
Speaker 1: but look at Thursday. We've got a storm to the
Speaker 1: north and it's throwing some moisture back our way. So
Speaker 1: maybe a chance of maybe Wednesday evening picking up some
Speaker 1: dark clouds. Guys, maybe a little light sprinkle here or
Speaker 1: there on Thursday. We're not taking a direct hit, but
Speaker 1: it will be cloudy and cool.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, people in actual other parts of the country do
Speaker 4: see weather. Severe weather underway today. They say life threatening
Speaker 4: flooding is expected to hit the plane states. This weather
Speaker 4: is going to continue to be bad, probably through.
Speaker 3: This weekend.
Speaker 4: Two reported tornadoes already, one near Minnesota and another one
Speaker 4: near fall Kenyan, Minnesota, and another one near Fall Creek, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: The papal conclave will kick off in a week. May
Speaker 1: seventh is when it will begin, and the early bets
Speaker 1: are that it will last two or three days. People
Speaker 1: in the no predict maybe there are some cardinals that
Speaker 1: have kind of shined in the initial meetings. Amongst the
Speaker 1: one hundred or so one hundred and twenty cardinals that
Speaker 1: will be crowning the new pope.
Speaker 4: One of them will not be Cardinal Angelo Beccio. We've
Speaker 4: talked about this guy. This is a guy who five
Speaker 4: years ago was put on trial in a Vatican criminal
Speaker 4: court for allegations of financial misconduct. He was convicted of
Speaker 4: finance related charges a couple of years ago. He's appealing
Speaker 4: the conviction and the prison sentence that he was supposed
Speaker 4: to be serving five and a half year prison sentence.
Speaker 4: He did participate in some of the pre conclave meetings.
Speaker 4: The Cardinal Angelo Buccio has decided that he is going
Speaker 4: to withdraw from participation in the conclave for the good
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 1: Church have a sweet story about baby ducklings, and that
Speaker 1: is redundant. Yes, it sure is. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't have a duck story. Showed me the booty
Speaker 1: give me kind of waddled their little booties, don't they. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we should sex up the ducklings.
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.
Speaker 4: Listen to the Jesus, Okay, so we know what it is.
Speaker 1: At least seven ducklings were in need of help, guys.
Speaker 1: They were trying to cross a busy road in Irvine.
Speaker 1: You know how wide those streets in Irvine can be.
Speaker 1: Imagine being a little duckling. What a sissphician task to cross? Jamboree?
Speaker 3: Can you even see the other side of it?
Speaker 1: You cannot if you're a little baby duckling. Are your
Speaker 1: eyes even fully functional? It was Sunday and it was
Speaker 1: at Irvine Center Drive in Jeffrey, so I wasn't far off.
Speaker 1: Patrol and Animals Serve were called and the arriving officers
Speaker 1: found the small brood of ducklings trying to dodge traffic
Speaker 1: while waddling across the road without their mother. You guys,
Speaker 1: The officers managed to corral the ducklings and place them
Speaker 1: into a box before determining what to do next. Now
Speaker 1: you may think it's odd that the police responded to it. Nay,
Speaker 1: I say, nay, it is not odd. The police department
Speaker 1: has reminded the public to indeed call officers if a
Speaker 1: wild animal needs help. Don't try to do it yourself.
Speaker 4: I know, but wild animal makes it sound like is
Speaker 4: there a giant attack ducks?
Speaker 1: Did you see the picture of the ducklings? How cute
Speaker 1: are they? Aren't? They just the cutest things ever. They're
Speaker 1: like dark brown and yellow ducklings, and their little faces
Speaker 1: and their chests are yellow. Very cute.
Speaker 4: I mean, despite the amount of porridge that they produce
Speaker 4: every single day.
Speaker 1: I think that one that one pooped right there. I know,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Listen, everybody pooped.
Speaker 4: I'm amazed that this is not a capital offence in
Speaker 4: the city of Los Angeles. That's a mural that pays
Speaker 4: tribute to Kobe and Gg Bryant vandalized in downtown LA.
Speaker 1: Oh, people are awful.
Speaker 4: This is on Main Street or West fourteenth. It was
Speaker 4: originally painted by slow motion Louie Motion. Shortly after Kobe
Speaker 4: and Gg and seven other people were killed in that
Speaker 4: helicopter crash, you can believe more than five years ago.
Speaker 4: But they showed a bunch of graffiti that was spray
Speaker 4: painted over most of the mural. Not clear exactly when
Speaker 4: it was vandalized. Timing wiser or who would have been responsible, obviously,
Speaker 4: and already there's a GoFundMe Paige to help raise money
Speaker 4: to help restore the mural.
Speaker 1: Gary and Shannon, We'll continue. Don't forget. It's Tuesday, which
Speaker 1: means true crime Tuesday. We've got a story about a
Speaker 1: teenage couple. It was a cheerleader and the last president
Speaker 1: that were killed in nineteen eighty five. And these murders
Speaker 1: are still rocking this small town in Indiana because a
Speaker 1: lot of the people who are around when this happened
Speaker 1: and were terrorized by the idea of somebody still out
Speaker 1: there now work for the police department that continues to
Speaker 1: investigate this double murder.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Hey, Gary, Shannon John down in Orange County, you were
Speaker 2: talking about drinking champagne. I will tell you, prior to
Speaker 2: my wife and I getting married, she and her mom
Speaker 2: and sister drug me to a bridal show, but they
Speaker 2: were handing out free champagne and I had probably seven
Speaker 2: eight glasses of it. Next thing I know, I am
Speaker 2: laughing like a crazy person. I got tears in my
Speaker 2: eyes and I'm on the floor laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: It's bad stuff, man, that'll do it to you.
Speaker 4: The other thing we were talking about earlier was the
Speaker 4: rise in physical media. People are buying again vinyl records, CDs, DVDs,
Speaker 4: or or they're finding new value in the collections that
Speaker 4: they've already got.
Speaker 6: No way can I ever get rid of my CD collection? So,
Speaker 6: like Shannon, I kept all of my CDs in one
Speaker 6: of those book things with a bunch of sleeves in it.
Speaker 6: And when my mom moved to California, she was so
Speaker 6: kind to bring all of my jewel cases and give
Speaker 6: them to me, and was going through them with my
Speaker 6: children and found from the nineteen hundreds a blank T
Speaker 6: one eighty two CD signed by Travis Barker.
Speaker 7: They were like, you used to be cool.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so using that every day now.
Speaker 1: From the nineteen hundreds. That is genius. It's so good.
Speaker 8: Hy Gary and Shannon Amber from Freezer Park. I have
Speaker 8: probably about seven thousand DVDs. I have a few hundred vhs,
Speaker 8: and my father just gave me his entire record collection,
Speaker 8: so I have a few hundred albums now, and I
Speaker 8: still have all my CDs, probably a few hundred of
Speaker 8: those too.
Speaker 1: Anyways, have a great day.
Speaker 3: The key is I still have those CDs.
Speaker 4: I have a DVD player, a Blu Ray, but I
Speaker 4: don't have it. I don't have a dedicated CD player
Speaker 4: to play them on, any of the old you know,
Speaker 4: stereo equipment that I kept or anything. I don't have
Speaker 4: CD players anymore, which some people probably don't either.
Speaker 7: Hey, Griyan Shannon, I have a huge collection of vinyl
Speaker 7: and CDs from the eighties.
Speaker 3: And nineties, from the nineteen hundreds of the.
Speaker 7: Police, Blondie, Squeeze, Tears for Fears, the Sex Pistols, the
Speaker 7: Pet Shop Boys, cold Play, and more, which to pass
Speaker 7: on to my nephews.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have put Coldplay in
Speaker 4: that list, but well that's because that's nearing your your
Speaker 4: catalog there.
Speaker 1: Coldplay has been around a long time.
Speaker 3: Not not like Blondie and Tears for Fears.
Speaker 1: No, you are all I mean saying that thing.
Speaker 3: I want to know where this is going? I can't
Speaker 3: see the road here. What's happening?
Speaker 9: Big Garyan Shanna. I started my collection of CDs back
Speaker 9: in the early two thousands and have approximately two thousand
Speaker 9: plus CDs as I continue to add to it as
Speaker 9: I go out to record stores. I prefer the clarity
Speaker 9: of the reproduction of the music, and as I've already
Speaker 9: bought the CDs, I could always rip the music and
Speaker 9: put it onto my phone and the cloud and any
Speaker 9: media that I choose, rather to have give somebody else
Speaker 9: money to listen to the same stuff that I purchased
Speaker 9: a decade ago, if not longer, plus no commercials.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say Coldplay is also from
Speaker 1: the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying they're not, but she was refraining.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going going to you know, century specific.
Speaker 1: I bet your kids, Well, maybe.
Speaker 4: My kids would know who Coldplay is, ye, they would
Speaker 4: not have known who in those other hey guys.
Speaker 10: On the CDs, DVDs and albums. I've probably got well
Speaker 10: over three hundred CDs a bunch of DVDs. I have
Speaker 10: no clue, but the treasure chess is I have over
Speaker 10: five hundred albums going back to the sixties, even some
Speaker 10: early Beatles and stones that are in Mono. I'm older
Speaker 10: and you guys obviously, and I can't part with them.
Speaker 10: I just can't.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things we did when we're
Speaker 4: cleaning out my parents' house was we found a bunch
Speaker 4: of records. Now, we went through a flood in nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty one and a lot of their albums, their record albums,
Speaker 4: were in the flood. So what they did was they
Speaker 4: took each record out, they rinsed it off because it
Speaker 4: was muddy water not muddy waters, and they rinsed off
Speaker 4: and they lay it flat and they put a paper
Speaker 4: towel down, and they'd rinse the next one and put
Speaker 4: it on top of that one and put a paper
Speaker 4: towel out. So there was a stack of I don't know,
Speaker 4: thirty or forty records, separated by paper towels because and
Speaker 4: then they never did anything with them. They I mean,
Speaker 4: they moved from northern California down to central California with
Speaker 4: those stacks. So I was going through stacks of old
Speaker 4: records like that. Now, they weren't cool. It wasn't rolling
Speaker 4: stones or beetles or anything like that. It was like
Speaker 4: classical music or the Count Basie Orchestra or something like that.
Speaker 4: Very cool, which, yes, but that's not what I was
Speaker 4: looking for.
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes we find exactly what we need.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, easy, Jay, Shetty.
Speaker 11: Happy Tuesday, Gary and Channon. You all must be listening
Speaker 11: to my conversations because I was on the phone last
Speaker 11: night with my nineteen year old grandson trying to teach
Speaker 11: him how to use a record player. He figured out
Speaker 11: how to turn it on. He asked me, how do
Speaker 11: I change a song?
Speaker 3: I told him count.
Speaker 11: The lines, fast forward, have a great days?
Speaker 1: A good question, though, if you haven't seen somebody do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool that he's able to call his grandmother and
Speaker 1: that she can give him that advice. I love that.
Speaker 3: How do you fast forward the song?
Speaker 1: What do you think your crand kids are going to
Speaker 1: call you and ask about the good old days the
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds? Yea, Grandpa, what was it like? In all right,
Speaker 1: We've got a true Crame, true Crame, True crime Tuesday
Speaker 1: story for you.
Speaker 3: No, that's also from the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: It is from the nineteen hundreds, the year of our
Speaker 1: Lord of nineteen eighty five. This is a double murder
Speaker 1: of If you come from a small town, you can
Speaker 1: imagine how much this would stay with you. The order
Speaker 1: of the class president and a cheerleader fifteen and sixteen
Speaker 1: years old, if you are growing up, if you have kids,
Speaker 1: if you're in high school, if you live in the town,
Speaker 1: this stays with you your whole life. Stories like this
Speaker 1: because it was never even solved.
Speaker 3: Crazy story.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: Am six forty and this.
Speaker 1: Time on Tuesdays, we like to dive into a true
Speaker 1: crime case and all too often they are cold cases,
Speaker 1: and this one is no different.
Speaker 3: The story is true. That's true. No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1: Mounsey, Indiana is the locale of our true crime Tuesday Tail.
Speaker 1: This was a story that began on September twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. We're talking about sixteen year old Ethan
Speaker 1: Dixon and fifteen year old Kimberly Dow. Ethan is on
Speaker 1: the debate team. He's president of the junior class at
Speaker 1: Northside High School. Tons of friends. Kimberly JV cheerleader. She
Speaker 1: had just been elected to the Court of the homecoming
Speaker 1: Queen the week before. These two were found shot and
Speaker 1: killed in the hatchback in west Side Park on September
Speaker 1: twenty eighth, nineteen eighty five. Happened to be a police
Speaker 1: officer that found them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just before midnight, this officer from Munsey, Indiana and
Speaker 4: his canine were walking in west Side Park right along
Speaker 4: White River Boulevard, not far from Tillotson. You know, that
Speaker 4: is Tillotson and White River. Although parks closed at eleven
Speaker 4: o'clock at night, a few cars were still in the park.
Speaker 4: That wasn't that unusual. He wasn't there to bust people necessarily.
Speaker 4: He gets back to his car with the dog, ready
Speaker 4: to leave the park, and he realizes that there are
Speaker 4: some fresh tire tracks leading to a parked car, and
Speaker 4: he thought, well, you shouldn't be there now.
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be.
Speaker 4: One thing if you were staying and gonna leave, but
Speaker 4: you shouldn't show up now. So his headlights sweep the car,
Speaker 4: and the people in the car didn't react to that.
Speaker 1: So he gets out and he walks up to the car.
Speaker 1: Its engine was still idling, and you could see a
Speaker 1: portable stereo visible in the back. Now kids. Back in
Speaker 1: the nineteen hundreds, cars didn't come with great stereos. They
Speaker 1: just didn't. The sound quality sucked, so sometimes you'd take
Speaker 1: your boom box. In the eighties, it was a popular
Speaker 1: item to have a big, old stereo and you'd put
Speaker 1: it in the backseat to your car so you'd have
Speaker 1: a better sound system. That is what they saw in
Speaker 1: the back of the car. They also saw that the
Speaker 1: officer also saw two fully clothed people, a young man
Speaker 1: and a young woman. They were in the front seats
Speaker 1: and it was Kimberly and Ethan that had both been
Speaker 1: shot in the temple.
Speaker 3: He was shot in the torso, oh, I'm.
Speaker 1: Sorry she had been shot in the temple. Now, the
Speaker 1: window glass on the passenger side of the car was shattered,
Speaker 1: so whoever who fired those shots in was on Kimberly's side.
Speaker 4: So you can imagine a small town month not tiny,
Speaker 4: but a small town like Munsey, Indiana. The deaths of
Speaker 4: two teenagers like this, very popular kids, was shattering to
Speaker 4: this community and they all wanted to see this thing solved.
Speaker 1: Now, in this day and age, you'd have what cell
Speaker 1: phone records, text messages, emails, all of those things that
Speaker 1: make solving crimes doable. In nineteen eighty five, none of
Speaker 1: that existed and so on its face there seemed to
Speaker 1: be no rhyme or reason, like you said, just good
Speaker 1: kids at the time. Paul Cox, he's now seventy one.
Speaker 1: He was captain in charge of officer training. Why was
Speaker 1: he there and why was he given the case? What
Speaker 1: that Maloney title? Well, the reason he had that Bologney
Speaker 1: title is he was demoted when he chose the wrong
Speaker 1: mayoral candidate in the previous election. So he was sent
Speaker 1: to Siberia of the police agency, which happened to be
Speaker 1: in charge of officer training. But he was also very
Speaker 1: well seasoned, so he was put in charge of this investigation.
Speaker 1: He was pulled from his usual duties and put in charge.
Speaker 1: He took the case file home. Paul did covered his
Speaker 1: family room floor with his contents.
Speaker 3: Interesting that he.
Speaker 4: Focused on Kimberly Dowell's stepfather as a potential suspect in
Speaker 4: this case. Mom claims that the stepfather was home the
Speaker 4: whole time and didn't actually leave the house until they
Speaker 4: had received word that Kimberly was missing or was gone,
Speaker 4: and that they were trying to find him. Sorry that
Speaker 4: they were trying to find her, and that's why the
Speaker 4: stepdad left the house.
Speaker 1: Not short on tips, he says, no crime has received
Speaker 1: the tips that this double murder did ten or fifteen
Speaker 1: an hour. They were getting. They didn't peter out for
Speaker 1: some time. Unfortunately, the tips never resulted in a solid
Speaker 1: suspect or an arrest.
Speaker 4: There was one of the guys that decided, Robert Weller,
Speaker 4: one of the investigators. He played on a hunch on
Speaker 4: what would be the tenth anniversary of the murders, so
Speaker 4: September twenty eighth, nineteen ninety five. He thought that there
Speaker 4: would be a chance that whoever did this was going
Speaker 4: to mark the anniversary of the murders by revisiting that park.
Speaker 4: So they staked out the park all night and came
Speaker 4: up completely empty. Now, again, all those tips that came
Speaker 4: in ten to fifteen a day that they were dealing with,
Speaker 4: and not one of them leads to a hard suspect.
Speaker 4: But they did have along with the stepfather, they did
Speaker 4: have some suspects.
Speaker 3: We'll tell you who those suspects were when we come back.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the West Side Park murders out of Munsey, Indiana.
Speaker 4: This sort of been nineteen eighty five, sixteen year old
Speaker 4: Ethan Dixon fifteen year old Kimberly Dowell sitting in a
Speaker 4: car Volkswagen Rabbit looks like listening to music late at night,
Speaker 4: probably making out that's what they do. But for some
Speaker 4: unknown reason, Kimberly was shot in the head, Ethan shot
Speaker 4: in the chest. They never came up with a murder weapon,
Speaker 4: although there was a holster they found in the car,
Speaker 4: but they said it probably wasn't connected to the murders.
Speaker 4: And despite the fact that there were a lot of
Speaker 4: tips that came in, they never really were able to
Speaker 4: solve this crime. And I mentioned that one of the
Speaker 4: officers that was investigating thought originally that the stepfather, that
Speaker 4: Kimberly's stepfather, might have been a good suspect early on,
Speaker 4: but it turns out that that was not the case.
Speaker 4: Stepfather had a pretty strong alibi, even though the only
Speaker 4: person who could verify that was his wife, Don Vogel,
Speaker 4: saying was his name. They never were able to pin
Speaker 4: it on him, or anybody else for that matter. So
Speaker 4: a couple of the people that were involved in all
Speaker 4: of this, I'm trying to find where the list of
Speaker 4: suspects went. I wanted to point out that again, even
Speaker 4: though this was an absolutely tragic story in that these
Speaker 4: two young these two teenagers, died, Kimberly Dowell's father, not
Speaker 4: the stepfather, but her father, said that one of the
Speaker 4: greatest things that came out of it was that the
Speaker 4: city itself, this town of Munsey, Indiana, came together.
Speaker 1: Some of the suspects and scenarios are as follows. As
Speaker 1: we mentioned, there were numerous tips and lead There was
Speaker 1: the Monte Carlo driver the popular car back then, a
Speaker 1: Chevrolet Monte Carlo, seen in the park that night. Police
Speaker 1: focused on finding that vehicle, as well as a second car.
Speaker 1: Released a composite sketch of the car's driver based on
Speaker 1: descriptions from witnesses. The driver of the Monte Carlo became
Speaker 1: a part of lore surrounding the case, but police ultimately
Speaker 1: said that they don't think the man nor the vehicle
Speaker 1: had anything to do with the slayings.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 4: The other one was the cross town rival. They talked
Speaker 4: about rumors or they'd heard rumors that sixteen year old
Speaker 4: Ethan had gotten an argument, maybe an actual fight with
Speaker 4: a teenager from the south side of Muncy. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's pretty specific, but at the time, the idea that
Speaker 4: he felt threatened after this thing lent some special importance
Speaker 4: to the presence of a knife that was found in
Speaker 4: his car. But people were police sorry, were never able
Speaker 4: to actually confirm that a fight had taken.
Speaker 1: Place's name Kate kept resurfacing. He was one of the
Speaker 1: first focuses of the police, but never charged, and he
Speaker 1: said that the rumors, by the way, in late nineties
Speaker 1: he did an interview, said they ruined his life. You
Speaker 1: can imagine. Then there was the drifter, one of the
Speaker 1: more chilling scenarios, that the two young people were targets
Speaker 1: of a random killer who was just passing through. Police
Speaker 1: looked at a similar incident in Kansas five years earlier,
Speaker 1: but said they didn't believe the cases were connected.
Speaker 4: And then finally, one of Ethan's friends said that he
Speaker 4: and Ethan loved dungeons and dragons and used to play
Speaker 4: Dungeons and Dragons on a regular basis. The last of
Speaker 4: the potential suspects in this case was quote the dungeon Master. Now,
Speaker 4: because Ethan and his buddies played dungeons and dragons. There
Speaker 4: was some talk, and again this is rumor mill talk,
Speaker 4: but there was some talk that the fantasy that is
Speaker 4: dungeons and dragons was somehow acted out and gone horribly wrong.
Speaker 1: I think that that was kind of one of the
Speaker 1: things that was speculated upon in the late eighties with
Speaker 1: a lot of different crimes of like, is it a
Speaker 1: dark thing that the kids, Yeah, because all these kids
Speaker 1: were into it, but it was kind of.
Speaker 4: Secretive and probably Ozzy Osbourne ACDC.
Speaker 1: One of the more poignant quotes I read in this
Speaker 1: article was from one of the friends of Ethan. Ethan
Speaker 1: was the kid who was shot and killed, the debate
Speaker 1: team member, the class president. Tom was one of Ethan's
Speaker 1: closest friends. They hung out every day, they played D
Speaker 1: and D together, they were both on the debate team.
Speaker 1: And Tom says that about Ethan, he was really smart,
Speaker 1: very charismatic, loyal to his friends, a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: He was class president, and he said it was such
Speaker 1: a dramatic event with dramatic ramifications that happened to a
Speaker 1: bunch of teenagers where the smallest thing is dramatic. They
Speaker 1: didn't well at night. Nobody did for the rest of
Speaker 1: high school. The next two years. Not until Tom left
Speaker 1: for college did he feel safe at night. But I
Speaker 1: thought that that was so so true. A bunch of
Speaker 1: teenagers were the smallest thing is dramatic, so true, right,
Speaker 1: and then this is the biggest thing that could possibly
Speaker 1: happen to them, and how much that how much weight
Speaker 1: that would come with it, would come with weight for
Speaker 1: no matter where you are in life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but again, still no solution to that murder of
Speaker 4: Ethan and Kimberly from back in nineteen eighty five. Reminder
Speaker 4: that our breakdown appears as itself if you want to
Speaker 4: go check out. We'll talk about what we learned early
Speaker 4: this morning and then before the show started, how we
Speaker 4: figured out exactly what's going on with the White House
Speaker 4: when it comes to tariffs the auto industry and the
Speaker 4: relaxation of some of those tariffs, but also what happened
Speaker 4: this morning between the White House and Amazon and the
Speaker 4: discussion of whether they're going to change their prices or
Speaker 4: display tariff pricing on some of their sites. All that
Speaker 4: is in the breakdown portion of the Gary and Shannon
Speaker 4: Show podcast that you can find anywhere you find.
Speaker 1: John Cobelt podcast coming up next, I hear his handing
Speaker 1: out fetanyl. Stay tuned, We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Stay dry.
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