Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the gen V
review series the season finale of season two. Yeah for
the lost track of where we were right now, I
am I guess still the number one Kyler and famboy dressed.
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Speaker 2: By I am the chosen One Tarfield.
Speaker 1: Yes, Lee's gentleman's Yeah, we're gonna talk gen V. This
is the end of that. We are pretty much done
now shows like obviously we got it starting out this weekend,
but we're officially out of that big slog, which was
a fun time but for us, very hard to bounce
lice and content wise. But yeah, you can go back
this whole summer, Alien Earth, Peacemaker, Dexter GENV we're in that.
But yeah, we'll be reviewing it and then sometime in December,
whenever we get a date, we'll review a fallout. But yeah,
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that a little bit later. Tairfield, how did you feel
about the season two finale of gen V Also, we
speculated a lot of what would be the closure. It
was funny the last week we were talking about it
there would even be a season three, and then the
day after Eric Crepp is like, yeah, if those the viewers,
it's there, So that's the plan. But what were your
thoughts on the ending here? Were you satisfied? Were you
wanting more excited for future ventures with these characters? Potentially?
Speaker 2: I am always down to get future adventures. I enjoyed
this season. I enjoyed the things that we got, but
there are still things in this finale that were rushed
and left poorly written. I think they could have done
things a little bit differently in this finale. And again,
this finale is forty minutes coming off of what like
a half hour thirty five minute like semi finale episode,
so we really didn't get a lot. There were a
few things that they introduced in the show where they
brought in familiar characters, and those characters served really nothing.
I don't know why they brought in these characters just
to offer like maybe I don't want to say reprieve,
but to offer a thing that benefited our characters in
that moment in that episode, And while they planted seeds
for future things, there really wasn't anything to come from that.
I imagine probably in retrospect after we watched The Boys finale,
that this season will actually and it's finale will actually
age a lot better. But I don't think that's it's
It is a maybe. I don't think though that's it's
not good. Though, like you again, it is a maybe,
but you shouldn't you shouldn't be doing a show that's
gonna merge with this show, It's like, what's a good example.
It would be like the Mandalorian season finale looking better
if we got a book a bulb a fet season two.
When we watch a book fet it's like, Oh, it
makes the Mando season finale so much better. Like that
kind of a thing. I don't think that that's the
way to go about it. So at the end of
the day, I enjoyed the season two. I think it
was really like a good amount of fun. And this
finale it doesn't live up to my all time you know,
high standard bar for what a finale should be with
a show. But I like some of the things that
we got in this episode. I like where our characters
kind of got, and I like some of the other
things that they they had appear in this episode. I
just wish that it was executed a little bit stronger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm pretty in life with you. I
think for me, I maybe enjoyed it a bit more
because trying to dance around it in the spoiler section
last week, I feel like everything that happened went down
kind of as I expected it, So I guess that's
where I'm coming from, where it's like, oh, I think
they'll do this, and they did this, and yeah, I
think there was some strings here, they tied off some storylines.
But at the same time, I don't know. I think
I it's gonna be tough. I think, like what you're
talking about, how it's connected. I just don't know is
it going to be to the situation where it will
help or hurt it because I I'm trying to think
of the best way to say this without spoilers. So
I'll say this, and I hope this isn't much of
a spoil and I don't think it is. I think
I said I not. I think I know I said
this to you earlier that to me. If the other
spinoffs Awestly, Vaught Rising is way in the past, right,
so I don't think we have to worry about that.
And then if the Boys Mexico, we don't know the
plot of that, but if that's not connected, I think
the spinoffs are gonna serve much better if they're not
directly connected to the main continuity of the Boys, which
obviously The Boys is ending next year, right, so that
shouldn't be a thing. You shouldn't have to worry about
connecting there. And I think that's the prob where sometimes
the show does have its own personality and its own agenda,
and then other times it does feel like and not
too much to the Boys, but it almost feels like
you like, I don't think they exist. But I would
wonder if you just watch gen V how you would
feel about the finale, you know, because they'd say you
didn't watch the Boys. And I'm sure they do, right,
I'm sure the crossovers there, so I'm sure they're not
worried about that. But as we've seen before when we
talked about MC and other stuff, we have talked about
them that Kyle Renn film episode where it's like people
they doing homework and watching things that are connected. They
still do that, but I think people have a lot
less attention spend now just because the amount of content
there is right, and don't have to feel like, oh,
I got to watch these eight episodes of this that
And I'm not saying it does that. I just feel
that they set certain stakes. And again, my biggest complaint
for this whole season and continues with the finale, that overall,
still the finale good character's good, we got some arcs
going on. It's still a pass and I think I
might still technically like season two better than season one.
But these characters, they just get out of the odds
so quickly, you know. And even then, this felt like
this is going to be a very big situation, felt
like it was handled pretty easily. And I think the
other thing that's tough too for me is I wish
it was more secluded to just these characters. In this episode,
they start to introduce other characters and stuff we've seen before,
but other characters and other ramifications like if you do this,
this might impact that and if you do that, that's
gonna impact this person. But I think the resolution's quite easy,
and I think they figure out a way to just
kind of dovetail like, oh that was crazy, right, Well,
let's see what happens next year, you know. So again,
there were some good moments here. I think I sound
more negative than I am. Overall of yours say hey,
did you like it? Yes, But on like a critical level,
there's things where I enjoyed it. But it's not going
to be and I don't think gen V was either.
It's not gonna be like my top ten shows of
the year or anything like that, right, I think GENV
had its issues with the Boys other than the last season.
Every season and the Boys coming out did that, and
I think that's sometimes the show feels a little handcuffed
by the Boys if they can't do too much or
stretch too thin. And I'm kind of at odds of
where they end this show. It ends in a way
where I don't know if I I feel like there's
no good answer because they're saying something in the ending
and I was like, Oh, that'd be kind of lame
if you did that, and then they went against us,
Like Okay, that's cool. But then once they went against
and I'm like, do I even want this though? Like
I don't know. It's a tricky place because I like
all these characters and I like the world of the Boys.
I do think that we really like. I guess they
can talk about season three. We'd have to see what
happens in the Boys finale. I know it's called GENV,
but they gotta like there's nothing to do with that
at school anymore, you know, like that school just feels
so like the school is so minor in this episode,
but or in this season, but you know we'll see here.
So we got some people in chat white gamers saying,
I love them both. You're talking about Mandalorian and uh
the show I'm assuming or right bo fed Uh, let's
see every episode has been over forty minutes better than Peacemaker.
That's a good question, Tarr. What which show do you
like better? Gen V season two or Peacemaker season two.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I'd say gen V season two. I'm enjoying one
Peacemaker and so he's super Mike saying every episode has
been over forty minutes for GENV. Yeah, I think it
was under the forty.
Speaker 1: I think this show was. I think technically with the
credits it was only thirty five minutes, but the credits
did get like forty one. So but even then, Peacemaker's worse,
right because you tune a Peacemakers thirty seven minutes. That's me.
It's it's like a thirty two minute episode whatnot? And
that's where and again I don't hold that too. That
has to be the thing that's what makes it a
bad episode for me. That's that's a tough one. I
honestly they're pretty neck and neck. I will choose because
we don't. I don't know why. Kirkland said. Is Thisten
the Weekly Geek last Yek with him and Dylan they're
talking about something. He's like, we don't do ties here,
and I'll just throw that out. That's never been like
an a stalage rule here at KIK. First, I think
we don't do them because we like the debate. So
as Kirkland says, I won't do a tie, I think
here's the thing. I think Peacemaker is highs were higher
than this show. Like everything that happened in episode six
and seven, I don't think GENV ever got to that
level where while they're doing some really big stuff here,
some big reveals, some big characters stuff, but I think
I had more issues with Peacemaker overall. So I think technically, yes,
I put gen V over peace Maker, even though yeah,
definitely I think my score I think Peacemaker is like
a six, and I think definitely gen V's higher than
a six. It just never got to that height that
I kind of felt like we were always in a
good mode in GENV, but we never got to a
stellar episode. There's not that one episode where I'm like, oh,
this season had blank episode, right, that's where I can
see a peacemaker and say, hey, episode six and seven,
those were some really great like maybe almost you know, nine, ten,
eight ten, really high stuff or GENV just was consistently good.
That's what I would say with that, let's see supervises.
I think I'm I think you guys both give season
one and eight. That's interesting. I guess we can. I
don't know what we're gonna flip it up. Tare off
the bat, what would you give the season? Because we're
talking about the seasons now. I think I'm like at
an eight point five. I think it's better than season one,
but not like a a leap and bound. So that's
where I think I'm at. So we're switching up, we're
giving our overalls and the non spores. I think I'm
an eight point five for gen V season two.
Speaker 2: I go I go a little bit higher, go eight
point seventy five.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go a nine.
Speaker 1: It's not nine.
Speaker 2: I'm on the cusp like I'm close. I'm close, but
the finale in the semi finale just didn't do it
for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we'll have to see. I think I'm
maybe I'll actually go to like a a point twenty five.
I'm doing the reversit ty, I'm going down one more.
Doesn't feel even eight point five ish, But uh, all right,
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I want to jump right to we're doing. We're gonna
we're doing like a Tarantino. We're going from the end,
go in the beginning. I want to go to the
end of this also, we're gonna talk about a lot
of stuff, but they're on the run our heros. Right,
we lost nobody, which I didn't think was gonna happen
once we lost the real actor of Andre, because I
thought maybe even Polarity would but he he even made it,
you know. Okay, we did lose one. I don't know
if that's what you're smiling about, but I'm not gonna
count that character. But yeah, and our main cast of
returning characters, we didn't lose anybody, which, like I said,
not a surprise. We already had to lose the main character,
not by choice. Right. Our gangs together, they're kind of
seems like they're all friendly, they're bonded. You know, obviously
it's not perfect, but they're that kind of guards Galaxy
put together fan thing, right, almost like the boys. So
of course they're talking about what their plans are. I
did actually really like the joke when Jordan uh is
the pay of them, right. I always forget they're that
character's name, but I remember now. I love the joke
when they're like, oh I got a PM ME two
and Jordan's the girls, Yeah, I got a pe too,
and he flips into the man and they're like, hey,
that's not fair, like because I'll see really yeah, a
good running joke all the time in real life, right,
is about you know, easier for men to pee, which
is you know, most of the time accurate. You know,
you never know. But anyways, this is happening. They do
their business that come back. Lights are flickering, and we
kind of talked about this, we said, I said it
could be Hughie. I said it could also be Starlight
coming back. And we got that where starlight uh flies
down and she gets them. And this is where I
was torn, Taylor, because I thought so she asked, hey,
you want to be part of the resistance, and I thought, okay,
if they say no, here it feels like some of
the other stuff will talk about where they don't want
to mix it with the main show, right because Emma
starts going off like, oh, we're kind of our own thing,
we're kind of a team by ourselves. But then she
says like, oh, well but we could you know, create
a partnership. So at first it's like, if you say no,
you make that thing of why don't they ever pop
on the Boys. It's just because while they're on that show, right,
But then they do say, yeah, we'll join up. So
then my mind went to right a way of like,
are all these characters gonna be in The Boys? Like
I don't there's cause like and not that I don't
want them, because like I do like these characters. I
think it's just because knowing The Boys is in its
final season, The Boys already has tons of characters and
tons of storylines they have to close off, right, So
if they're kind of in an episode two of just
like a rebellion and maybe there's a point where they
need saving and they come in as like a new
gang just to help and who he's like, who's ease
and starts like, oh, they're some friends, Like I have
to see kind of like what you said, I have
to see how they're used. I don't think how it's
used going forward is gonna make this season or finale
like top tier. I don't even know if it could
make it much better. I think it is the quality
of what it is, because I still think they do
do some things where it's, hey, we don't wanna get
too close to the Boys, but yeah, yeah, we'll team
up with the So I really need to see the
final season of Boys to see how this plays up
for me, I kind of thought, Okay, they're gonna be
on the run, and that's why they don't link it
with Starlight, right, because maybe people are after them, trying
to kill them, and that would kind of make sense
of why they don't join up with the Boys because
they're right on the run for their lives. Like, okay,
I could believe that, right. It super remikes as though
be background cameos most likely seeing I don't want, like
that's to me kind of cheap then, so I feel
like there has to be like a perfect bounce off.
I don't want them in the show too much, But
now that they said, hey, we're gonna be around, I
don't know if I want just to be background characters either,
Like I would like an episode where they're not vital
as far as they have new bunch of storylines, but
in helping the team. So I don't know. I'm very
mixed on this. I'm gonna wait and see. It is
remind me of that meme of the Boys started, you know,
to parry doing parodies of the DCU and the MCU,
but now they have just become that and it kind
of is that but yeah, what did you take from
you know, them joining up with Star the Star Lighters
and that whole squad.
Speaker 2: It seems like I legit thought that they weren't going
to team out there for a second, and it kind
of fooled me. But uh, the whole time, that's my expectation,
because this whole time is just going on thinking they're
gonna team up. Theyre gonna team up, the two shows
are going to combine, like it just makes sense and
they've talked about it, but it still fooled me. But anyways, yeah,
they're they're teaming up, and I'm totally okay with this,
Like I want to see these characters interacts. So we
got like a train popping off at the end there
and then and I forgot Yeah, so I'm down for it,
I really really am. And I'm excited to see they
all interacting with Butcher and how Butcher well, Butcher doesn't
like all soups, but he still is working with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and of course show it's to black Nor who
appeared in this episode as well.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there was lots of boys actually, and even
then we got Sister stage back, so there was lots
of boys that doesn't count, doesn't but he's fine. He
wasn't last season, so I give it to them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So to that point, then, so let's talk about Goodalkin. Yeah,
it's that's exactly what I thought was gonna happen. I
thought because we talked about, oh, how'd Homeland react all
this stuff? And I just went that's where this show,
and I will say I think suffers from it being
a spin off that's tied to the Boys, right, and
I won't say tied to the Boys is in a
timeline of the Boys, because they keep doing this stuff
like oh, this could change everything for the soups and
Sister Stage just talking about like, oh, you gotta be
careful how you approach Homelander and all this set up
and not even homelanders calling and she changes it up.
Goodalkin's doing streams and what not, talk about how he's
there to cleanse the soups and how there's you know,
all these week soups around. It can't be that this,
like this whole threat obviously go Dulkin through Cipher has
been there the entire season, but this actual threat of
him coming out his whole body killing people lasts like
under twenty four hours, and I felt like they beat them,
I guess, I want to say pretty easy, but easy enough,
you know, like it did not feel what they made
up to be. It just felt like they were like
And that's why I will be interest to see how
these characters are in season five The Boy. Right, it's
I think season six of The Boys.
Speaker 2: I don't know what season it's five.
Speaker 1: I think it's five, Yeah, I think so. So for no, yeah,
I think so. Maybe we have computers fact check for me.
So for me, it's just that it felt, Okay, we
have gen Vier's doing their own storyline and it's going
towards somewhere, but we had to quickly shut that off
because this storyline is so big that obviously it would
impact Homelander the rest of the shows, So we can't
have this continue. How many seasons stay there? Okay, so
there we go. So for me, this is where something
like Invought Rising or even Boys Mexico, you could probably
do a big threat because you don't have to worry
about OHA's impact Homelander and Butcher and all this stuff.
That's to me what this felt like they were trying
to make it seem a big deal and make it
seemed like in the universe, and maybe even when we
get to The Boys season five, they'll have Homelanders say
some sort of throwaway line. But that's just what it is.
It's it. It feels like just like anytime The Boys
with the people to be like, oh man, there's a
really terrible situation where a bunch of people died, it
was so cool, or just something where it's like, oh, yeah,
we stopped a missile crisis here in Cuba. I didn't
mean to make this say that, but like not that
they're getting it again. But just like in The Boys,
they'll flippantly say stuff like that where they in between
scenes went and stopped in a trosy right like saved
a crime something like that, and it's not worth the
show because it's not part of the main storyline. That's
what this Goodalkin thing feels like. In The Boys, be like,
oh man, isn't that crazy? Like even Starlight did that.
She's like, man, Goodalkin coming back, sister saved feeding all
that stuff. I should have known. Like it felt like
a like a full like NPC character just giving you
some quick exposition of man. That sure was crazy. You
want to come to the main stuff now, So yeah,
it's you know again, obviously we didn't have him slink later.
I thought he actually had a re really good scene
to send him off. I thought, like, again, that actor
is Yeah, the actor's phenomenal, Like not just to surprise it,
but just the actual scene of him talking about Andre.
I've said this before, Hamish Slinklinger needs to be in
a bunch of stuff, whether it is big mainstream stuff
or people like the Nolan's and the Scorsese. He's like,
they need to get this guy because he's just so
damn good. And that scene that in any other actor
talking about Andre and just oh man, he was the best.
We just feel like, okay, which is still a good thing, right,
It would just like it's just honoring uh, a fallen
actor who was important to the show, and let's give
him some cred. The thing about Hamris slinklater in his performance,
he makes me believe that he's just talking about Andre
and it's so heartwarming and it feels so believable. He's
such a damn good actor. But yeah, the Godalguin stuff.
The whole all means Sister Sager have a plan and
they're making out doing all this stuff, and she's like,
I remember the plan, Like that's where the only reason
I thought he might lives because he kept mentioning his plan,
and now it's like, well that's also gone. So I
think the Godalkhin thing, you know, in concept, kind of cool,
but when you tie it to the Boys universe, it
can only get so big because Homelander, the real big bad,
is just over there, right. But even had Godulkin being like,
oh maybe we can take that Homelander, you know, so, yeah,
what do you think about all this stuff?
Speaker 2: I'm again just disappointed that Goadulkin is one and done,
not even twenty.
Speaker 1: Four hours and yeah, an act.
Speaker 2: So that's that's what really really bothers me. I would
like to have seen a little bit more from that,
the whole thing with him and Sister Sage, like she
we get everything kind of revealed. Okay, it was her
plan and that's how Cipher was on point and knew
everything at all because of Sister Sage. So there's that,
but yeah, it's just it's an interesting dynamic. At what
point did she or he reach out to her? I
guess because she's not as old as he is. But
she fell in love with him for some reason, and
he would have been like a limbless, charred corpse. I
just it's a weird, weird, weird, weird thing. But I
like their initial plan that was that involved Homelander, and
yet it wasn't a level of him controlling Homelander. It
was it was a different plan.
Speaker 1: But no, it might have been though, because he say
that in this episode.
Speaker 2: He yeah, he did say he wanted to control Homelander,
but she was like, no, like our plan is for
something else, Like we're supposed to use Homelander, not not
her plan. Yeah, and so that's another interesting thing too,
where you have him and his abilities really showcased here,
and that's why I wish that they kept him around
a little bit longer. Because you have the Odessa soups,
which are Marie and Homelander. Then you've got like the
Formula one soups, which is him, Stormfront and Soldier Boy,
which they they don't age, so those are like the
the ogs, and then yeah, the Homelander the Odessa ones
which are really hard to tap into. And he couldn't
tap into Marie obviously before because she is in a
Deessa and it's super super powerful, but I would love
to have seen him take over Homelander for just a
little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I again, that just becomes I think if you do that,
then then you make that character the new that becomes
the new big bad, right, And I think they want
to all the focus on Homelander for next season and
that's where that's where I think it's kind of it's
kind of tough. But yeah, we did. Uh we did
say goodbye to uh get talkin. That was it. Uh.
He did take over Marie for a little bit because
he was testing himself taking over a bunch of soups
very easily. He's taken over multi once and then he
did take over Marie. It's fun to see that actors
get to play bad for a little bit and do
the scenes and you know, try and kill her friends.
Clarity came and made the safe. But again, I also
just thought how he was uh defeated, was I don't know,
kind of easy. It felt felt very I guess it
wasn't that fast. It just felt maybe anti climatic of like, Okay,
he's he's done, he's gone. You know, I was expecting
some twist of like his body was exploded, but he
was still going controlling Marie somehow, you know, like I
didn't know what was going on. But no, that's not it.
She got away and she's all good, you know. So, yeah,
what did you think about Jordan breaking things off with
Marie there? I forgot to mention that in the ending.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's fitting. I mean, their relationship has
not been working out and Marie is just kind of
like mentally abusing Jordan to the jury, Yeah, say too,
like their relationship would have worked out for sure, but
Marie just kept you know, self sabotage and not really
she just like she highlights this episode like, oh, I
just let it all go to my head at being
the chosen one and all that kind of stuff, and
she did because it's what really ruined her in her
relationship with her friends, and she should have just you know,
brought them in, like earlier when Emma had a really
really good moment with with Marie and I can't remember
the other one who can control stuff, but just like kay, kay, yeah,
we're a fucked up family, but we're all in this together. Yeah,
like Emma's and it shouts again to Emma two where
she was able to just like grow super big and
then shrink back down all in her own without having
to eat or puke or anything like that. She did
it all and just fucking drop kicks Godalkin, which is
super badass. I really, I'm super stoked that Emma's kind
of come to this full circle moment like that. That's
super cool.
Speaker 1: So and she kissed that dude do who was there?
Speaker 2: I told you, I told you they were. They were
alluding to this nothing.
Speaker 1: But I'll give you that. I'll give you well, no,
I was. I thought there's something going on with the
friend l because I still thought there. That was a
moment too, when when they take down Goodalkin and they
have all their friends there and she kicks and kicks
them and then she's like, I can't remember her namething,
Oh do your thing, And of course she uses her
pubes power to tie up Godalkin, and and then you
have yeah, and then you have the friend that touched
her and took Goodlkins power for a little bit. So
you know what she says, she's a lame power, but
she made it work. You know, she took out this
big threat, so good for good for that soup there's
still there's still a spot for her on the roster somewhere. Yeah,
I thought there's something going on there and I was wrong.
That's fine, and I was still wrong about this, but
I do I will say again another negative. We never
came back to that that uh cafeteria girl, So she's
still just like living her worst life. Yeah, like it
felt like a strange It gets a nice addendum. I guess,
like a one episode. Oh cool, look what's happening. But
I thought there's gonna be a bit more. But yeah,
Emma did kiss that dude. I will say that I
still think her same way that Jordan Marie will end
up back together. I still think Sam and Marie will
or Sam and Emma will end the back together eventually.
You know, something's gonna happen. He's gonna die, you know,
it's just kind of the way he goes. Maybe not,
we never know. Me Sam will meet someone I don't know. Uh,
but yeah, and you mentioned Kate. Yeah, I thought that
was a really good scene, like you said, of them
bonding hugging in the uh some I think they were
in a dorm room or where were they hiding out.
Speaker 2: Of there in a dorm room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because right there telling to other students,
and yeah, I think it's good that we finally right.
We got the moment too where Maria healed Kate fully.
I wasn't sure what was happening because she tried to
heal what was his real name, hey Miish Lincoln anyway,
it wasn't a Doug or Blake or something like that,
but anyway, so HEYMI schlink. Later they try to heal him.
Marie had just done a bunch of healings, so she
couldn't do it. When she was taking so long to
heal Kate, I was worried that she still couldn't do it,
So they're gonna wait. And I also was worried they're
gonna do something where and not worry like I would
have been intrigued by the plot that Marie was gonna
say that, oh she she couldn't heal her, like she's
still tired, but like Marie was always making excuses not
to heal Kate because she was worried. But no, she
did heal her. And again that's why I don't know
how this works, you know, I guess this budgetary stuff.
She takes her hand, she heals her. They're both bleed
by the nose. The kid's like, thank you, Marie, and
they just cut right away. There's not like to me,
they should be like a big moment of one Kate
getting her full powers back, but two, this is like
a I feel like this is a big moment where
Kate was like a semi villain in the first season
who betrayed them villainous in this season. Last episode, they
had a contentious argument about, Hey, I can't do this
because I don't trust you. Kate said, hey, I'll never
use my powers against any of you, and when push
came to shove, Kate didn't do it. She stuck to
her word. So they felt like this was gonna be
a really big scene for the two and it was like, oh,
cool thing. It was like she had an itch, you know,
like and not the actors. The actors did a good
job as portraying that. I just thought there was gonna
be like, hey, let the actress that portrays Kate, like,
let her have like ten to twenty seconds just to
feel like, man, I'm whole again. And it didn't happen.
But I liked the scene leading up to that. I
did like that scene barring I could use a little more,
and I do like that now we talked about this,
Kate had a bumpy road. I think they're kind of
in the earlier season two. I think some of the
stuff they made are so like hating the group and
kind of going against them. I think it was all
a bit easy for to I want to help you guys.
I hate you guys, so I want to help you
guys again. I think the beginning the season with Kate's
character was messy, but I think overall, they did get there.
They did redeem the character. They gave her a nice
little arc, and I'm happy that she's a part of
the crew. I do wonder, though, do you I'm not
trying to be more, but but I wonder do you
think she still would have been a part of the
crew if the Andre actor was still with us? Because
Sam I could see because Sam was all like he
was kind of mentally unstable, right, But with her, I
wonder if she was gonna be more on the bad
side because season one set that up, and I wonder
if it's like, well, we're kind of down a character.
You know, she's with the group already, let's put her
like and I don't know for sure, but what do
you think.
Speaker 2: I think so, I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean you think like she would have end up
a good person or you think she would have been
on the bad side.
Speaker 2: I think she would have ended up on the as
a good person. I really really do. I think that
was kind of Yes, they wanted to go in a
perfect world where the Andre actor was still alive. I think, okay, yes,
you you immediately got that three seasons. They're already thinking
about three seasons of the show. But I think you get,
maybe this season, if he's alive, Kate and Sam being
evil for a period of time instead of them becoming
good in between seasons one, and I think you get
more content of them being evil and them could being
conflicted and eventually making that transition back. And maybe that's
Andre's help or whatnot. Who knows, because I think Polarity
wasn't really gonna be in this show a lot. I
think he was definitely there and president in the first one,
but I think with the absence of Andre, Polarity kind
of fills in that void a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah, you're kind of true. I
forgot about Polarity who's gonna stay back. He's not going
with them, not just staying back. Yeah, yeah, i'd say
kind of risky. You know that guy, Like, I don't
think he's gonna just get killed, but I feel like
that is risky. You don't know, they could just destroy
you because you help them out. I don't know. And
that's another thing I will say too, where when they're
doing Godalkin puts out these video messages right like come here,
there's a class, there's a seminar, right, and then he
kills these people, and you have that one guy who's
naked just ran down the school saying, oh this is happening.
It felt like the Godalkin thing and a separate the
classroom was. It was nothing like to the school. It
did not feel like a big threat all. I felt
like this guy too, because obviously we have learned about
some soups not aging, but I don't think that's like
a It's not a not rare thing, right, even for soups,
I feel like they'd be It's rare to find those
soups that you know, Soldier Boy, like, we've only met
two of them in the Boys, right, Soldier Boy in
storm Front where it's like, Okay, they donate, so here's
a third one, and here's the third one that one
thought was dead too, you know. So I felt like
it was very minor. It didn't feel like it had
that impact on the school. Sure, they had a couple
of students say, oh, you know who's back and he's
hosting a seminar, but then we saw all those characters
in the next scene and they died. So I also
thought that wasn't done the grace that it felt very
small scale. Adulcun coming back, so let's see, yeah, and polaritally.
Like I said, I don't know what he's I don't know.
I feel like it's a risk staying there, but I
guess we'll see, hopefully in season three if we get it.
And that's where yeah too, I hope, we hope the
numbers are there, and I hope we do get a
season three because the boys would have ended, and I
feel that they will have way more freedom gen V
season three, you know, to do whatever they not whatever
they want, but kind of whatever they want because they
don't have to worry about, oh, it is this gonna
impact Butcher, you know, Homeland or anything. They can do
stuff and not have to worry. So I hope that, uh,
let's see great use of the butthole as a trojan horse.
Yeah that was a fuck but that that's something that
worked really well as far as the theme of the show.
And I talked about the girl, the pubes, and that guy.
These were characters that would have been looked at as
lesser than on the Soup's thing, right, but they helped
beat Dolkins. So it kind of showed that, you know,
no soup is lesser than right, They're just like no
person is lesser than Everyone has a skill or everyone
can do something that someone else can't do. Right. So also, yeah,
quite the way to travel. But you know it was
it it helped them get the win, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: It really really did. That was that was something that
just Jesus, fuck shit all my office here. That was
just that was something else just I was not expected.
I could just see else And they foreshadow it too,
like because they keep having to pop up throughout the
the but my god, he was like what is his power?
You can just take anything up the ass like he
had six people in there.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of like he's like a
so you know in Superman Peacemaker where they have like
those pocket universes and you going to a different universe.
I'm not saying it's that, but I feel like whatever
his asshole can do, they go into like they show
he shrinks people like, like that's what his asshole. I
maybe I don't know if it's other other places too
that can shrink. But it was just the butt then, yeah,
I guess that just shrinks people go. You go in
there and then you can travel. Obviously he still looked
in pain to get them out of there. It's not
just like an easy procedure for him, right, but uh
uh it it was on the Fall of Godalkins. There
you go. Do you do you think this like Godalkin
gets mentioned in The Boys season five?
Speaker 2: Oh, I hope, So I think I mean, Homelander's gonna
have a scene where he's talking about I'm sure, And
I mean it's definitely gona affect Sister Stage because Sister
Sage she left Polarity's vault door open and seeing she
knew how things were gonna go or how it all
plays out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Polarity when Blacknurr is talking like you can
talk now you know, because I don't forget, but I
was just remind of, right, that's a new guy, like
an actor as black Nor who's still some skills. But yeah,
it's I wonder my theory is with Homelander when him
and sister Sage are fighting, He's gonna list off all
these things that she's done wrong. It's been like blah
blah blah blah blah blah the thing they have with
good Dolgan blah blah blah. Like it's just gonna be
like a very quick in the middle. They might have
a small argument about like what were you doing down there?
But it doesn't really lead to anything in the boys, right,
you know, like it shouldn't have anything to do there.
So are we missing anything or anybody that we haven't
talked about? That's uh, springs your mind. Nothing really had
with Sam, Like he was there, but he didn't I
have like a I did, like he faced off with
them as a new boy for there for like a second.
Obviously they might do that in the future, the whole
Jean Gray, Wolverine, Scott dynamic. But you didn't have really
like a big moment in this episode.
Speaker 2: This is where in terms of like characters. I mean,
I agree with you, Sam did not have much going
on this episode, but characters that were not really impacting
much of the story Stan Edgar and his granddaughter, and
they appeared in that one episode, like two episodes ago,
just purely for the fact that our heroes needed a
place to stay, so they get to stay here. I'd
have some good food at Stan Edgar's house. So I
think that's that's a con Like, why why introduce that?
Because their whole plan is like, if you can get
to Godalkin, then we could find a way to stop Homelander.
That's all it is. Yeah, and fortunate because there wasn't
any juice to follow up with this. I thought for
sure that we would get something, but no, that.
Speaker 1: I guess could tie into if they if the gen
Viers are in an episode or two, they have that
connection with John Carlo, right, so maybe they can tie
that back together. But yeah, I think it was as
of now, didn't go much place. Sue Mike says, uh,
Sam was the biggest disappointment the season. They gave nothing
to work with. Biggest disappointment season. That's interesting to think
about because I did really like the episode where he
went home. I thought that was a good episode. I
liked that as far as they thought their kid died
it what like seven or eleven somewhere around. Then they
only have a certain amount of stuff, and then you know,
like the parents can't talk to him because of X
Y and Z Vaught fucking him over right, and then
when he gets there, he thinks, like he's so paranoid
he think his parents are gonna call Vaught. So I
did really like that episode. I I liked him, and
I liked him for the first to say four, I'd
say in the back half, yes, I think we talked
about though that they turned him back good so easily.
There wasn't much to chew on there. But it's the
biggest disappointment, like if I had to think about all
the characters, because Emma, yeah, she says she's never a disappointment, Marie,
that's fine, she being character Kate Polarity, Yeah, I could
agree with you. I'll agree with you in the back
half Mike that I think they didn't really know what
to do with them, so but yeah, we'll see they
didn't do much with the puppets either, so no.
Speaker 2: They didn't.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Polarity yeah, is there anything else?
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well I think that's it. We've already done
the rating. Unless you you know, change your mind at all,
up higher or lower.
Speaker 2: No, it's still the same.
Speaker 1: It's still the same. So there you go. So, yeah,
we've done it. We've done gen V season two, the finale,
season three, like if it's there, yeah, we'll be there.
Will the show be there, and.
Speaker 2: The same pitch, we'll be there. If the numbers are there,
we'll do the show viewers are there.
Speaker 1: I think that luckily I had to look beause I
just sa on the side there when I keep a
track that I think the gen V numbers for us
did good. And then I also think with the boys
being gone, if there is a season three, a lot
of those people that don't watch GENV will go over
to that as like a void right of oh, man,
I have no more boys. Well this and even then,
if these characters get one episode and they like any
of them, or even half an episode, they go, oh,
I should check out that show, right, So no, what,
we'll be here for season three. I think it's just
the times when we get those four show blocks, it's
it's tough for us people. We we try our best.
I don't feel think, oh that's not tar, but it's
like the watching doing this, we upload to all the
separate feeds, Patreon, editing and everything like making the time. Uh,
it's sometimes, you know, hard. So we appreciate people that
listen and subscribe, and especially people on Patreon because you guys,
if it wasn't for Patreon, we wouldn't be doing half
the stuff we do. So we appreciate all you because yeah,
sometimes those four blocks, it's it gets it's it's tough.
So I'm happy it's over and swer Mike says, I,
which I agree. They basically completely drop the political stuff
in the back half. I agree, but I think the
reason I'm fine with that because they did shift in
more of the group dynamics of Marie with her sister.
Even the sister for me is somewhat like a disappointment
more than Sam because they added her and I just
feel like I still don't really know her yet and
she's just part of the crew now, you know. And
I guess like the way they added her, but I
feel that maybe if these run times were longer, we
could have got more scenes with her Marie or her
and other characters. She just kinda feels like she's literally
like that younger sibling that that's tagged along. But I
think the reason I'm not worried about that is the
dynamics shift into like can we trust Kate? Is Maria
going too far? What Cipher up to? I think another
reason as well, too is I'm not worried because I
feel like The Boys will be riddled with political stuff,
you know, So I feel like you're gonna get a
lot of that there, especially with the stuff that air
Crep said today of like, oh yeah, it's uh he said, yeah,
we're doing the storyline he about he says, has nothing
to do with the real world, we swear. So it's like,
I think you're gonna get many, like many political stuff,
which is probably a good thing for them to change
up a little bit, because I'm sure we saw last
year that there was some people being like, oh, The
Boys is getting political now, I can't watch it, even
though The Boys from season one has been a political show.
But sometimes when it's put up to someone's face they
finally see it, they're like, oh my god, have I
been watching the show the whole time? It was political.
It's like, yeah, you have you just you didn't understand
what I guess what was going on, But uh, I
get the mike if that if that's and I agree
with you when I brought the uh Cafeterira lady, I
really like that storyline up. What does it mean to
be a human right now in a world that is
like run by soups in like a Nazi Germany sort
of way, where they will treat you as slaves, They'll
treat you as like lesser than dirt, Like what does
that mean? I think we had a good glipse into it,
but we didn't the full, the full shebang. So yeah, yeah,
but yeah, I know we'll be back for season three
and honestly, next year we will be back for the boys.
This final season, that's gonna be a very fun time.
Lot's of payoff. It's gonna be interesting see what happens.
And I promise when we are back it will not
be boring.