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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severer and Victor Nuno Fantasy.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this to give you our

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wonderful shows in today, Victor. We are back you and

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me talking some goalies. We love talking goalies. We've had

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so much goodness. Kat Silverman, I'll tell you what. She's

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a hero. She's an American hero, is what she is.

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And we have been listening to her stuff all summer

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and try to enjoy some of that together. But today

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we're going to talk about some of the goalies you

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highlighted in the EP ringside Guide. Victor, how do you

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feel about the goalie position?

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Speaker 1: Victor?

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Speaker 2: Is it time to start drafting goalies in the first round?

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Speaker 3: Never the day I do. That is the data that

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Speaker 2: All right, we've started with messing with Victor, but now

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we're going to talk about some of the guys that

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he would draft when we get to a little bit

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more reasonable round. And maybe these are the type of

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values who can fall below the consensus that Victor will

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be looking for. First of all, Jacob Markstrom of the

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New Jersey Devils. Victor tell me about him.

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so that is also fun. And they pursued him, they

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wanted him. He sure seems like he is a good fit.

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especially the price they paid. They would have they could have,

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make the playoffs. So that was a little disappointing that

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they waited so long. But he had an amazing season,

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did mark Strum. He had his career best goalsave above

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expected with twenty nine. That was amazing. And yeah, he's

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thirty four years old. You have to remember the goalies.

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a later time as well, So I wouldn't be too

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worried that he's thirty five this year. I think he

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still got another couple of years of being a good

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goaltender and the Devils should be a good team. They

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eight point seven, So I'm not saying that Markstum is

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going to be is going to turn that negative eight

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point seven into plus thirty, but I think he can

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turn it into a positive number and that's all they

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need to be a playoff team. Quite frankly, they just

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and they were The Devils were third, which is crazy.

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most likely to win the Cup, but they were getting

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good odds and Markstrum being there as a part of it.

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the starts and the Devils at the very least should

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be a very competitive team. Maybe they're not going to

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be Stanley Cup champs, but they should be winning more

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games in Calgary. I don't think that's hot to say,

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and they should be in just about every game, and

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I think that he's going to help them. They got

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need to do that as much this year. So I

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quite like mark Strum I ended up. I didn't end

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up getting him anywhere. I think a couple other people

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were a little bit more excited than I was, Jesse,

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because I just tend to wait way too long for goalies.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about him Victory.

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Speaker 2: I agree with your takes, and I think there is

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some value with Markstrom, But let me make some of

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you want to be a Markstrom doubter. Not that it's

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his fault, but his career as a starter in teams,

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he's only been in the playoffs two out of seven years. Yes,

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that's partly the team around him, but it hasn't necessarily

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been teams that he's carried. He did have obviously a

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very great year, and last year was his career year

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by far in obscurity in Calgary, he's good, But if

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you take out last year, he has been an aggregate

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an average goalie through his time in Calgary. Goalies changing

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systems and environments can also be a danger. I suppose

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if New Jersey's been chasing him, they think that he'll

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be a good fit for them, if they're looking at

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things in an advanced way. I suppose you got to

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pick some goalie. I could probably make it's against any

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goalie in the NHL if I really wanted to. So

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you have to temper that whole thing. But I worry

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about the fact that he was the center of the

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sexy goalie trade of the offseason is going to leave

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him overrated in drafts. Goalie eight is too rich for

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my blood. Actually, though, the defensive situations in Calgary and

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for Calgary, so just point oh one difference. So he

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was facing a similar level of shot danger. But yeah,

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overrated in this year's draft. All right, Victor, we'll move

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on to the next one. I know this is one

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of your faves, Dustin Wolf of the Calgary Flames. What

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makes him when of your picks, Victor.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there are too many goalies that

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are going from relative unknown to the larger fantasy community.

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time now, but he's going from relative obscurity for a

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lot of people to being the man. And that is

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because they traded Jacob Markstrom and he's going to get

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a run here. He didn't do so well at the

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end of last season, but I think you can chalk

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a lot of that up to Calgary, who had traded

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a couple of their best players and they were a

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mess and he was trying to find his foothold. He

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played seventeen games, they mostly went poorly, and he was

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really trying to hold it down when the team in

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front of him was a mess. So I don't know

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that you could hang too much on him. He has

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training camp now to be the anointed starter. He has

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time to get used to the structure to the team

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in front of him, and I think that's going to

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be huge for Wolf. And he's a guy who thrives

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be He's going to get tons of opportunity. I think

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he plays at least thirty to forty games. The other

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thing is that Calgary needs to know what they have

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in Dustin Wolf. He has been tearing it up in

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the AHL for years now. He's been the best player

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down there for a long time. And you can only

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long until it just becomes you know, what are you

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and next year before they have to sign him as

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an RFA, but they really only have Dan Vladar or

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Vladash as the other goalie, and he's an UFA after

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this season, and there really isn't anyone else, So they

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and they need to know if Ladash is more than

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a backup, if Wolf can be the starter. So they're

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gonna give him a run and they're gonna let him

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roll with it, and they're gonna give him plenty of games.

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for goals against and for certain goalie stats. He may

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where you're not super penalized for some of those goals

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against and low performances, then Wolf for the volume should

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Speaker 3: I see Cam has him pegged for thirty nine games.

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I think he's going to be right around there. I

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think he hits forty. I think he plays at least

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half the season and maybe more so. I think you're

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going to get a lot of games out of him,

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and he's going I got him in the A couple

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so you can get him very late and I think

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he can return value.

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Speaker 1: What do you think again?

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like the idea if you can

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get him outside the top twenty nine, which in EP ringside,

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that's where you'll be getting him, according to those ranks,

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basically outside the range of starting goalies in the NHL.

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I love that, but make the case against him a

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little bit. In that same environment you said Calgary is

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a mess. Jacob Markstrom had a career year. He had

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a twenty eight point nine three goal saved above expected

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Dan Vladash and Dustin Wolf both had Validar had negative

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ten point seven to six in twenty games. Wolf had

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negative seven point seven to two in seventeen games, basically

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a pretty similar rate for both of them, a pretty

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similar rate of suck, whereas Markstrom had an outstanding rate.

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Now again, Dustin Wolf just breaking into the NHL, so

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we're we've got to give him a little bit of

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a break. But I think that forty forty split is

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I know they don't do that in hockey quite the

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way they do in basketball, but I think it would

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be wise for them to tank a little bit for

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next year. I don't know whether that means playing more

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Wolf or less Wolf. But that all said, Okay, that

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all said. Everybody who looks at goalie prospects drools over

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this guy. He has been tearing up the HL for

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a reason. He's very talented. If there's one goalie who

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could debut this year as a Thatcher Demco type young

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star who just shows up and suddenly the thing turns around,

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it would have to be Dustin Wolf. That would have

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to be the guy I think who comes in and

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does that. There's a case for and against here. I

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like him at the value you are talking about getting him.

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I just I don't know how hyped he's going to

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be in some leagues. Obviously, we play so much Dynasty,

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and I think Dustin Wolf has got a crazy price

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in dynasty right now. He has to compare to so

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many old goalies in the NHL, which, and again that

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might not be inappropriate, But yeah, I think there's a

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case for and against Wolf being successful this season.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I would caveat to that with what

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you said is that it's true that the total environment

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that you described, but most of Wolf's starts came after

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the trade deadline. And I know Markstrom was still there

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and but I but comparing him hundreds of games into

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the NHL versus Wolf, it's a bit it's a bit harder. So, yes,

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he was able to manage that chaos a little bit better,

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which I don't think is terribly surprising. But I think

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for a new goalie doing that after the trade deadline,

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it was just a lot harder for him. And he

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is a very technical goalie and he needs to be

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able to predict his environment. I think Markstrom is a

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little bit better at just being able to read and react,

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which is something Wolf needs to improve on, and he

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definitely did not handle that part very well.

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Speaker 2: All right, next up, Victor, we're going to go to

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the state of Utah, where hockey exists now and talk

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about Connor Ingram. What makes him a pick of yours? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, I love this guy.

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Speaker 3: I have loved Connor Ingram since he was with Tampa

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and he's always been one of my guys. And people

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always criticize me and say, why do you like this guy.

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He's he's on a team, but the goaliet he's never

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going to play, and I always point out, you never know,

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he can get traded, and that's what happened, and he

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ended up being pretty good, and he really showed out

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last year. He took the net fifty games and was amazing.

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His expected numbers were way better than Villemelka's. He was

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third behind Hellabuck and Markstrum and ahead of Swaymen in

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terms of goalsave above expected in those appearances. I think

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if he played in a prominent market, he would have

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gotten VESNA votes. As it was, he was the comeback

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Player of the Year, and I think that he's the man.

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I'm really proud that I have him in a lot

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of leagues because I believe in him, and especially in

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KAP leagues. He's a gem because he's not making too much,

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so for a starter, you're getting massive value for Connor Ingram.

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I think the big question obviously is how good is

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Utah going to be And we don't know the answer

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to that obviously, but at under two million for a starter,

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and yes he makes less than but I am still

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confident that he's going to be the starter. He's outplayed

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Will Melka, and I think that Utah gets a little

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bump from being their first season in Utah, right. I

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think being in a new building, the owners seem to

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be treating them a little bit better, giving them better facilities, resources,

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all that kind of stuff. I think they're going to

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feed off of that, and I think they're going to

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be a bubble playoff team. And I think Vill Melka

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is going to be a bit or not Vill Melka

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Ingram's going to be a big part of that. Vill

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Milk is going to be a good, good bench boss

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there just to sit in with the hat on the

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bench tracking shots. But yeah, I really like Ingram. I

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think that he's going to be amazing value. I don't

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I'm not saying he's going to be like top five

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or maybe even top ten in terms of raw goalie stats,

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but the opportunity is there, and the team could really

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rally around him and rally around each other and end

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up being one of the best stories this season. And

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in terms of where you can get him in redraft

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leagues way later and for contract leagues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people, it's fun.

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Speaker 3: Now. People come sniffing around for Connor Ingram and they're

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offering me these like garbage trades and I'm like, no way, man,

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You'd have to pay way more to get Ingram off

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of me now, because everyone knows that he's great and

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he's exceptional value for the dollar.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm pretty high on Ingram. Jesse, here are you?

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Speaker 2: Last year, it seemed like everybody was coming to the

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season saying it was going to be Vy Melka as

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the starter in Arizona. It was Arizona then, but Ingram's

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seventeen point sixty eight goals save above expected was thirteenth

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in the league. Just wildness and Utah is so buzzy,

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not only with the new ownership, the new place, that

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double defense draft deal of Sergacheff and Marino that caused

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triggered you at the draft when all the Horns were

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going off right in a row there. As I recall,

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Ingram is fifteenth amongst seventy five qualifying goalies in goal

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save above expected if you go over the last four

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years combined cumulatively, which is crazy to me. He led

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the league in shutouts last year. Wins may not be

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there yet this year. I don't know that you taught

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is going to really rack up wins that are going

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to help you in that category or accumulating those points.

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But this is a shrewd one because if youp Ringside

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ranks him at goalie twenty four, I think that that

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is too low. That is too low for Connor Ingram.

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So I like him as win your picks. Victor Darcy Kemper,

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you've talked about him already on this show a couple times,

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and why you like him, But why don't you recapitulate

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and expound.

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Speaker 3: I like Kemper, and it's funny talking to Kat about Kemper,

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who knew him really well in Arizona when he was there,

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and how he's just one of the best goalies of

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just not thinking about it. He doesn't get in his head.

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He just reacts, and sometimes that's the best thing you

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can do, obviously, if you have the physical tools, which

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he most certainly does being a large goalie and having

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good enough technical skills. He just rolls with what's in

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front of him and what's going to be in front

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of him. In LA, I think is going to be

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way better than what he has seen for many years.

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I think probably dating back to his time in Minnesota

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is probably the last time he had a great goalie environment.

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He was in LA for a hot minute there several

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years ago, but I don't know that was enough to

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really learn much about. But this environment, the Kings are

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a really good defensive environment. Now. Of course, losing Dowdy

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for a bit might hurt that a little bit, and

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they did lose was it Matt Roy right, So they

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have a little bit weaker defense, but there's still a

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strong team. I know they're moving away from the one

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to three one, so maybe that won't be quite as good,

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But I just think that it's not going to be

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as bad as it was in Washington. They were not

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a good defensive team and they led in a lot

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of high danger shots, and he struggled with that because

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he's someone who just wants to react to play and

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all of a sudden, if you're falling, the falling the

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play and then someone's on your back door tapping a

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puck behind you, what are you supposed to do about that?

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So it's going to be much better for him. He is,

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to me, clearly the guy there in LA. He's going

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to get all the starts, and I think that he

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could be, you know, pretty good. I wouldn't want him

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as my number one d per se unless I'm truly

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waiting until the very end for goalies. Then I think

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it could be okay because he's getting good god amount

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of money. The Kings should be a playoff team and

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he should play fifty games, and so if that's all

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the case, then he's going to return value. And I

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think that they're in terms of guys that you could

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get really late in your draft. I'm not sure that

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there are too many better options in Kemper. I know

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that a lot of people are skeptical about this one,

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but why don't you tell me what you think, Jesse.

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You've gotten to see him up close in personal last

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couple of years, and I know he's going to be

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thirty five this year, so he's slowed down a bit.

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But we just talked about with Mark Strum, goalies can

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be pretty elite into their later years.

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Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts on.

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Speaker 2: Kemper victor for Darcy Kemper. I dope deep into the

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stats and did myself a little scientific study, and my

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conclusion is Kemper is better the further west he plays,

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because he has played in Washington, and I actually, patrons

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who look at the show notes, I have created a

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map in here that shows nine o two save percentage

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in Washington, nine ten in Minnesota, Denver and Phoenix. Trying

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to mess me up a little bit, nine to twenty,

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nine to twenty one, and then you get to La.

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He's got a nine to thirty two save percentage career.

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I think that means obviously, correlation equals causation, he will

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have a crazy good save percentage this year. But also,

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more seriously, if you put together the last five years.

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I did this a couple times at EP Ringside. I

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combined players the goalies over larger samples than one year

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and looked at some of these stats and the old

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Delta Fenwick say percentage that I know Brian Kahm is

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real into this, and it kind of it makes a

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lot of sense. How much better is your save percentage

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than average if you take into account everything that wasn't blocked,

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because the goalie could influence where the shot is coming in.

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So even if it doesn't necessarily you know, if it

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hits the net or something like that, it just misses,

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it might have been because the goalie did something good.

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He comes out as eighteenth out of eighty five qualifying

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goalies in Delta Fenwick save percentage and eleventh in gold

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saves above expected. Out of those eighty five, that's really

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good if you consider how bad the years went in DC,

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that's really good. Yeah, Darcy Kemper is still a high

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quality goalie and I think that LA in the kind

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of mutual mass salary dump of Dubois for Kemper, it

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might end up being a win. And I think that

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with LA this is very likely a win for them

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and very likely to be their starting goalie this year.

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Speaker 3: This is the kind of detailed analysis that our listeners

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come to expect. Jesse, I very much appreciate you pulling

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out a map and looking at where he did better.

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Speaker 1: That was that's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's graft Victor. I went to a website.

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It's got pins on it. It's wonderful. Yeah, this is

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deep scientific analysis. You're not going to get anywhere else. Okay,

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while everybody recovers from my dazzling science, we're going to

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take a break.

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Speaker 1: That's a weapon.

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Speaker 2: If we're going to talk about Omar Uly. Oh, the

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Ottawa Senators, what makes him? What are your goali texts?

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Speaker 3: Wasn't Elliott Friedman who said the Autawa Senators are making

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the playoffs? That was a big that happened well after

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I made this choice, but it did. Omark is a

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really good goalie. I don't think that's too controversial. I

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know some people might have just said he played behind

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the Bruins and that's not so hard. But he's been

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a good goalie for a lot longer than that. His

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goal save above expected is Delta Fenwick, as you were

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just talking about in the previous segment with respect to Kemper.

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This is I think how you have to evaluate goalies.

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You can't just look at the raw save percentage in

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the team because so many of those things are so

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team dependent, and you have to look at how they

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did in terms of their individual numbers. And his goal

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save above expected have been ridiculous in Boston, but he

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also had some pretty promising numbers in Buffalo, which kudos

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to Boston for seeing that and taking him away from Buffalo.

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And actually his first year in Boston wasn't even that good.

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So he had some up and down numbers. They weren't bad,

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but they were a little bit less reassuring. The big

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concern is going to a more hostile environment, I guess

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you could say for goalies. And the funny thing is

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we just saw this with Corpus Solo. But there were

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many people me most prominently had my hand up saying

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this is a terrible when they gave corpors Soolo a

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giant bag of money and said you be our guy.

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I have long been on the record saying I don't

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think he's a very good goalie. And not only that,

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but I also said the environment in Ottawa is not

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one that.

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Speaker 1: Is good for a goalie like corpor Soolo.

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Speaker 3: He's a very loosey, goosey read and react very much,

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slide around and make some high, high highlight reel type saves.

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That's not who the save. Who the Senators need. They

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need someone who's more structured, who can be more dependable,

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who can operate within their system that's a little loosey

477
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:47,960
goosey at times, and that's Wholena Slmark is. He's someone

478
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,079
who's going to be more consistent for them. He's gonna

479
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:53,839
make the stops when he needs to. He's not going

480
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,759
to be all out of position because he's stretching across

481
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:58,880
the ice. He's gonna he's going to give them a

482
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,680
little bit more dependability. I think that he might be

483
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480
the missing piece to help bring them back to the playoffs.

484
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,039
I'm not quite sure that the team is all the

485
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,480
way there, although I really like some of their defensemen.

486
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,920
I think a lot of their forwards have taken big steps.

487
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,759
I think they're going to be a much better team,

488
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:16,960
and I think Omark is clearly going to be the man.

489
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,039
So he's going to get a lot of play and

490
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,279
in terms of I don't think his run numbers are

491
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:25,839
going to necessarily be as good, but he's going to

492
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,880
get lots of starts and the team I think is

493
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,960
going to be better because of him. Primarily so what's

494
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,680
not to like, Jesse?

495
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: What is not to like? Indeed, you remember, we know

496
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,319
Ollmark emerged in Boston. He was a vesan, a winner.

497
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:44,759
I recall because I've taken so few ws on this

498
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,480
show and sobody else. I remember one of my w's

499
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,079
was when I said he would hold off Swayman and

500
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,559
he ended up winning the zend of that year, Did

501
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,160
you know Boston was only fourteenth best and expected goals

502
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,640
against per sixty and at two point five nine, and

503
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,039
Senators were eighteenth best at two point sixty seven. I

504
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,319
tend to think of Boston as everything was a lot

505
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,279
easier for a goalie there and a lot harder. And

506
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,839
you're right, it didn't exactly happen the same way, but

507
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,799
they both were middle of the road in the types

508
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,400
of shots they were giving up on average. That was

509
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,559
scoring venue adjusted, by the way, when Boston got into

510
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:24,440
the lead, that could be a bit different. That said,

511
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,519
in Ottawa, chickern is gone. It's going to be a

512
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,559
step back to Nick Jensen, who I think is probably

513
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,759
a little past his prime. There a Shabbat should be back.

514
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,599
So that's good. Olmark's coming in with big expectations. The

515
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,839
curse of Friedman. Goalie fourteen might be a bit much

516
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,680
for me. I think a really good goalie coming into

517
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,920
a more troubled environment is going to be not necessarily

518
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240
a recipe for immediate success. And it just seems like

519
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:55,960
everybody who goes into Ottawa it just tanks on them.

520
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,440
Things just go poorly. Matt Murray goes in there, it

521
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,880
goes in the tank. And Jonas Corpusalo, who was so

522
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,599
so but he went in the tank. It's just been

523
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,759
rough times up in Ottawa over the last few years

524
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,240
for goalies to go up there. So Goalie fourteen is

525
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,759
too rich for my blood. But I definitely Ohmark quite

526
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,559
a bit that your Demco Victor's another one of your picks.

527
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:22,480
And this one's a little bit tough because you wrote

528
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:24,920
him up for the EP ringside guy before the injury.

529
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,960
But still tell us about that your Demko.

530
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: My final sentence was the major wildcard. If he's healthy,

531
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,559
he's great, but you never know, and that's unfortunately what's happening,

532
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,559
you know. I actually so people were asking me about

533
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,319
this because I do have some medical background, and it's

534
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,440
funny they came out with this. It's the pop ldias

535
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,880
as if This is some sort of Eureka moment, which

536
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,440
is hilarious to me because you know, I'm someone who

537
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:54,200
knows a lot of different random muscles in the body,

538
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,680
and that is one that I know about, and everyone

539
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,119
seems to be, you know, looking up a Wikipedia, like

540
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,640
what the heck gives this thing? So I'll just tell

541
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,079
everyone right now if you don't mind, But this muscle

542
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,920
is a very small muscle in the knee that is

543
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,160
protective and basically what happens is it helps unlock the knee.

544
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,720
There is a screw home mechanism between the femur and

545
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,079
tibia that helps lock it and keep it stable in place.

546
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:19,640
And in order to flex the knee, you need to

547
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,680
unhinge unlock that joint, and that's what the poplitius does.

548
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,279
So you can imagine you have this stiff knee that

549
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:28,720
doesn't flex unless you have this very important tiny muscle.

550
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,720
If you can't bend the knee when you need to,

551
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,640
then you're gonna have problems. And as a goalie, I

552
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,319
can only imagine you're flying around trying to make these

553
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,599
recovery saves and you're not sure if your knee is

554
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,880
gonna unlock and stay straight. That is gonna be a

555
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,400
massive problem, and so that could lead to greater injuries

556
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,880
and problems. So that's the big concern with me in

557
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880
terms of moving forward. And yes, I wrote a lot

558
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,519
this before the injury news, but the thing is that

559
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,559
if you're and I have this opportunity in the cuple

560
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,880
right before this news came out, and I feel like

561
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,079
I regret it a little bit, Jesse, like maybe I

562
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,279
should have just picked him and stashed him in IR,

563
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,559
because I do feel like if he plays, he's going

564
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,480
to be amazing. But if he continues to be injured

565
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000
and not have this, and there's a lot of uncertainty,

566
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,599
like he might miss the whole season or a large

567
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,119
part of the season, so you never really know what's

568
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:21,839
going to happen. But I do feel like if he

569
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,559
recovers from this and he gets better, he's going to

570
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,160
be great and the Canucks are great. And it's one

571
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,680
of those things that if you could just stash him

572
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
in IR and get him a little bit later, because

573
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,880
he was available to me, like in the thirteenth, fourteenth round,

574
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,319
I could have had a star starting goalie and as

575
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,000
long as I had someone else to buffer the time

576
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,039
when he's injured, and I think you could think about

577
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,559
it this way too, then it could be really good.

578
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,759
But I would be very worried about this moving forward.

579
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:51,319
Like in dynasty formats, I would be very concerned about him.

580
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:52,039
Speaker 1: And I actually have.

581
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:55,839
Speaker 3: Him in one of my main leagues as my main goalie,

582
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,240
so that's a bit concerning. I'm not really sure what

583
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:00,519
to do about that. I don't I think I'm gonna

584
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,160
trade him though, I think I'm just gonna write him out.

585
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,640
I think he's I don't think you can get good

586
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,519
value for that, Jesse. That's my worry. If I could

587
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:13,240
get more a reasonable goalie, then I would probably make

588
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,640
that swap that I wouldn't have to worry about injury history.

589
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
But where are you gonna Who's gonna give you fair

590
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,720
value for this off injured but great goalie. That's my

591
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,359
concern with them. COO, what are your thoughts on him?

592
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is true. The other thing to look at.

593
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:34,079
You mentioned Vancouver's Pdo in our previous episode where we

594
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,880
talked about some regression candidates. Pdo at five on five

595
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,920
was a league high one on two point four last

596
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,279
year per Hockey Reference. And yeah, there's there are some

597
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720
little things to worry about. But we know Demco is

598
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,480
an excellent goalie. I do worry once one of these

599
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,039
goalies gets that type of injury, are they ever really

600
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:54,960
the same? Now we've just seen guys, and it would

601
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,039
be unfortunate if somebody as young as Demco had a

602
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,640
debilitate an injury. But I don't know our two Shilobs.

603
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,240
As long as we're talking Demco, Silobs seems to be

604
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,359
maybe the guy who becomes of interest now in the

605
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,880
short term. I would think he would have enormous value

606
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,559
to somebody who is a Demco owner. But do you

607
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:16,559
think he showed some stuff in the playoffs last year?

608
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,759
I felt do you think that Chilovs would be a

609
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:22,519
guy who in whom you would have some interest?

610
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. And we also saw him internationally for Latvia.

611
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880
That was an incredible story when we saw that. It

612
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,200
was interesting watching him in the playoffs. And I'm certainly

613
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,519
an a goalie expert, but to me, it seemed like

614
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,559
at times he was gripping the stick a.

615
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:39,039
Speaker 1: Little tight the pressure.

616
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 3: It was a really intense situation, right he comes in,

617
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,640
all the pressures on him, the expectations that them being

618
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,359
a higher seed, all these things. I think if he has,

619
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440
if Sheilobs has the beginning of the season and most

620
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,200
of the season to get a little bit more comfortable

621
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,680
and acclimated, I think he could be.

622
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

623
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's Demco level, but I think

624
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,799
his numbers could be similar, just because the team is

625
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:03,880
so good, and I think that he could be a

626
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,039
reliable steadying force there. So yeah, I would definitely have

627
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:10,440
a ton of interest in she Lobs if you're in

628
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,640
a redraft league that has an expiration date, because as

629
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200
soon as Demko is healthy, I'm sure they're going back

630
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,359
to him, but she Lobs might prove himself. I would

631
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,240
have a lot of interest in him, definitely.

632
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Victor, I know you had some other goalies you

633
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,160
said you wanted to mention you had some guys who

634
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,279
you want to talk about to. What are some other

635
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:32,920
goalies you think we ought to have in our minds

636
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,440
at this point.

637
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,559
Speaker 3: I think there are a few guys Jesse that might

638
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,079
be interesting to talk about. The first one danil Terisov,

639
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:47,440
who plays for Columbus, And yeah, there's so much that's

640
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,319
been happening in Columbus, and last episode we talked about them.

641
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,640
And obviously the horrible tragedy with Goodrow the team. Hopefully

642
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,680
we'll be coming together and have some great camaraderie collaboration

643
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,960
from that, hopefully things go really well for them. Wishing

644
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,200
the best, but it's gonna be a tricky situation. And

645
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:14,480
we've seen that Mergelikan is someone who has struggled a

646
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,759
bit to be consistent in the past several years, and

647
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:22,480
so that's something that you have to think about. And

648
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,839
who else is there is obviously the big consideration, and

649
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,119
Tarasov is certainly one of them. And we've seen in

650
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,839
the past what merge Likans has been able to do,

651
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,839
and he's been really good. He's been he's been solid,

652
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,079
but he's also been really he's struggled at times. And

653
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,480
last season he was actually pretty good, playing forty one

654
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:46,880
games in his goal save above expected was actually pretty solid.

655
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,720
Tarasovs was too, though, and so that's and he's actually

656
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:52,799
been really good. His underlying numbers have been good the

657
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,240
last couple of seasons, and he played twenty four games

658
00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:00,480
last season. I really think that in terms of the future,

659
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,880
that's probably.

660
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:02,559
Speaker 1: Who they're looking to.

661
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:06,119
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see if that's who they actually

662
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,719
give as much time to because there's certainly a team

663
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,719
that doesn't have to worry about.

664
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Wins or anything like that.

665
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,559
Speaker 3: Mrzlicans obviously is making a lot more money, and we

666
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,159
heard kick a line and talking about how that contract

667
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,039
was untradeable. I think that maybe they let him get

668
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:27,519
a good run and if they could retain some money

669
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,599
send him to someone who needs some goalie help. That

670
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,079
could be really good because I think that they have

671
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,800
some confidence in terosof who's an RFA at the end

672
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,320
of the season.

673
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,119
Speaker 1: I like Tarasov.

674
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 3: I think he can He played four seventeen and then

675
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,079
twenty four games. I think he could increase this next

676
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:45,679
season by another seven to ten games. I think he

677
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,480
can get close to thirty five. And I think he's

678
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,159
in that split starter situation, and I think that he's

679
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,480
someone that I certainly would be interested in. I don't

680
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,519
know that he's someone who's probably more of a streamer

681
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,119
or spots starter in redraft, but he's definitely someone in

682
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,320
your dynasty leagues you probably want to go grab, and

683
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,199
you might not think that looking at Orge Lilkins's contract,

684
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,320
but he's not their long term plan. It's definitely tarasof

685
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,039
don't you think, Jesse.

686
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,519
Speaker 2: I think that's a very reasonable guy to be grabbing.

687
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:17,440
I think he's rated, He's well regarded in our dynasty

688
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:23,599
leagues at this point. But maybe a target for redraped

689
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280
streaming that makes a lot of sense. He'll definitely face

690
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,800
a volume of shots when he's out there. So I

691
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,360
think there could be something good to be said about

692
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,760
Daniel Tarasov in Columbus. Who knows what Columbus will be

693
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,880
this year. We don't think they're going to be much,

694
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,079
but somebody always surprises us, it seems. Anybody else or

695
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:45,800
any other situations, Victor.

696
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a couple that I think are interesting.

697
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:52,840
I wanted to mention the Washington situation. I can't remember

698
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,199
the last time we had two lefties in the same

699
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,400
crease sharing the crease. And both of these guys, Logan

700
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,000
Thompson and Charlie Lnren are guys who have never really

701
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,199
had a significant starting role, and they're both guys that

702
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,119
certainly seem capable. They had Lingren basically won the job

703
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,599
last year, and Kemper ended up playing a lot fewer

704
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,199
games than everyone expected because of how good he was,

705
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,159
and I think he really showed that he's someone he's

706
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:27,440
never really had the full opportunity has lingerin and I

707
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,239
think that he has shown he showed basically he got

708
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,239
them in the playoffs, even though maybe a lot of

709
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,360
us thought that maybe they didn't deserve that, but at

710
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,599
any rate, he got them in and he was awesome

711
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,679
for them, did all he could to help, and his

712
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,360
goal save above expected numbers were incredible this season. So

713
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,800
I think that both these guys are interesting. It's one

714
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,920
of those situations though, where I absolutely would not take

715
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000
one of these guys early, but later on. I'm looking

716
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:56,559
at this situation in particular because either could end up

717
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:58,360
playing more games than the other, you never know, and

718
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,159
that neither has ever been a real volume, full time starter,

719
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,599
so it could either one could emerge. I would imagine

720
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,679
it's Lingren, I think he's the incumbent there, but it

721
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,320
could be Thompson. So I'd be very interested in grabbing

722
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,800
either of these guys and a zero G strategy later on.

723
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,480
And I think that Washington looks a little bit better

724
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:19,920
than they have in the past, even and both have

725
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,239
shown that they can outperform their expected numbers. So this

726
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,360
is definitely a place that I'm looking for not early

727
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,679
in my draft, but later for value, don't you think?

728
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, And I do think that Lingren

729
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,559
will be the man now again. Sometimes the most popular

730
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,159
guy in town is the backup goalie, and the fact

731
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:41,079
that Lingren won that it may look Logan Thompson the

732
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:44,679
most popular guy in town. Who knows. But I also

733
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,960
like about Charlie Lingren that his nickname is the outlaw

734
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:52,719
and he actually his glove has a name. Josie is

735
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,039
the name of Charlie Lingren's club, because that is such

736
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,719
just the kind of character that he has been over there.

737
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:03,280
We will see what is able to happen there in

738
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,880
terms of the mix. But I do think that the Capitals,

739
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,719
I really thought that they probably were not a playoff

740
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,199
team anymore, but after some of the signings and some

741
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,039
of the trades that they've pulled, they might be. And

742
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,920
I think Lingering is a good to at least average goalie.

743
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Logan Thompson. It's just weird that the Vegas Golden Knights

744
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,440
with a I think almost below minimum contract. It was

745
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:32,320
below the minimum that's in our Dynasty Hockey salary league

746
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,280
traded Logan Thompson. I know they've got other folks there.

747
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,400
But still that almost tells me something in Vegas is

748
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,440
such an advantageous situation. So we'll see what Logan Thompson

749
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,519
can do. But I do think that there is probably

750
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:49,679
sneaky value to be found here. Almost good if you're

751
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,519
in a deep enough league that you can have both

752
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,119
so that you can so that you can do that,

753
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:56,760
and you better be able to have access to your

754
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,079
computer at about five thirty at night to find out

755
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,400
which goalie is starting so that you can get the

756
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,039
right one in, because there's gonna be a lot of

757
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:08,199
nights when you will have the wrong one if you don't.

758
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: That's a reason to hate that situation. I definitely am

759
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,360
someone who likes to just know that my guy is starting,

760
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,320
because I hate having to wait till the last second.

761
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,239
And I've had that situation and I've definitely missed getting

762
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,519
my guy in, and it really sucks when that is

763
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,960
the reason you lose your matchup or struggle. So that's

764
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,159
the reason. But if you're in a situation where that

765
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,159
isn't such a big a deal and you can manage that,

766
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,039
then it could be good value. Another situation I wanted

767
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:41,840
to mention Lucas Dostal in Anaheim. It looks like Gibson

768
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:43,280
had an emergency app.

769
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:44,679
Speaker 1: In decom Me. Who knows how long he'd be out.

770
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,679
Speaker 3: He may not actually miss much, if any time, but

771
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,800
I do think there'll be a little There's no reason

772
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,039
to not be a little more cautious with him now,

773
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:56,440
and Dostal has been great and we've been saying one

774
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,119
of these days, Dostala is going to play more games

775
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,880
than Gibbson and it almost happened last year he had

776
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,400
forty four to Gibson's forty six appearances and it didn't

777
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,039
quite happen. But I think this might be the year

778
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,679
and this might be what pushes him over the top.

779
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,639
Not to mention the fact that he has been better

780
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,400
than Gibson and from a goal save above expected in

781
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,639
Delta Fenwick perspective. So I'm hoping that not for not

782
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,559
anything bad on Gibson, but since Gibson already has this injury,

783
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:29,480
there's no I'll hope here. But I'm hoping that do

784
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,239
Shtall takes this opportunity and kind of runs with it.

785
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,639
He's starting a little bit more in the preseason than

786
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,519
you would expect, and hopefully he runs into the season

787
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,400
and showing his stuff and getting a little bit more starts.

788
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,840
I'm hoping he can finally flip that script and be

789
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,400
the sixty forty starter and show everyone that he can

790
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,920
do and help improve Anaheim, who seems like they're a

791
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,960
team on the up and up. So I'm hoping that's

792
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,199
true for dos Shtall and I think it can be.

793
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,079
Speaker 1: I think he has the talent to do that.

794
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,039
Speaker 3: What do you think about Anaheim goaldies.

795
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: Jesse Luke John Gibson kind of feels like the new

796
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:08,599
Jonathan Quick across town, the experienced goalie who we just

797
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,199
all come on man or cam Ward the guy who

798
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,840
just let's get the hot new guy in. And in

799
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,199
Jonathan Quick's case, it turned out to be Cal Peterson

800
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,719
and we all know how that ended. So maybe never mind.

801
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,559
But yeah, it would be great to see Lucas Doshall

802
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:28,639
get in. I've seen him play in person in the

803
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,199
HL when he came up to Milwaukee, and he's a

804
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,039
very good goalie. In fact, he was playing in the

805
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,880
preseason game I was watching last night. But yeah, I

806
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,920
think that he could be good for this team. I

807
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,079
think this is a team that could be on the

808
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,840
up and on the rise finally when as all these

809
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,039
prospects come together. So I think Doshall is great indefinitely

810
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920
in your red raft, Leakes, I think he might be

811
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,639
a guy who hangs around the wire at parts of

812
00:41:56,679 --> 00:42:00,760
the season and could take that goal. So I love

813
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,159
Lucas still style.

814
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: Another guy who's going to be hanging out the wire.

815
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,119
And the last guy I want to talk about is

816
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:10,800
Yaroslav a scar Off. Obviously, the big trade over to

817
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,079
San Jose, and I'm sure baked into that, even though

818
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,079
he doesn't want to talk about it, is a plan

819
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:19,039
for him to play in the NHL this season more

820
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,079
than it was he was going to get in Nashville,

821
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:23,559
more than he was going to get from any of

822
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,480
the other places that were interested in acquiring him. And

823
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,840
I think that's a big deal. I don't know that he,

824
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,000
you know, starts forty five games for them. That seems

825
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,440
like it would be a bit unwise, quite frankly, But

826
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,639
I do think that he has the talent to play

827
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:42,360
in the NHL, and you know, the Sharks, the expectations

828
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,559
for him are going to be low, like he's he's

829
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:46,840
going to make some incredible saves and that's going to

830
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,360
endear him to the fans, and I don't think they

831
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,280
care too much whether they win or lose this season,

832
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,159
although they might want to win a little bit more

833
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:56,119
with some of the young talent that they have Vanichek

834
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,079
and they have Blackwood, and Blackwood seems like he's on

835
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:02,719
the up and up, and so that might be a

836
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,920
good situation to mentor him and to show some improvement.

837
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,280
The defense should be better. All in all, the Sharks

838
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,360
should be a more competitive team. They're still going to

839
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,360
lose a lot, but I think that's an interesting situation.

840
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,199
If you're not so worried, if you're in a league

841
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:18,760
that really penalizes you for those goalie scat stats, and

842
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
I would obviously stay away, But if you're in a

843
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,159
points league where it can be really value added, then

844
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,960
I think looking at Markstrom or not Marstrom, a scar Off,

845
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,320
and even Blackwood to some extent, could yield some pretty

846
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,719
good value.

847
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't really have any interest in Banacheck.

848
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,159
Speaker 3: I think one of those two, and certainly in a

849
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:39,639
dynasty league where you know you maybe didn't think a

850
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,079
scar offf was going to be playing anytime soon, I

851
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,880
think that the value added there should be quite a

852
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,519
bit because he seems like he's going to play, and

853
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,519
even in redraft leagues, might be more of a spot

854
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:51,199
start kind of thing, but he might go on a

855
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,119
roll and they might just let him run with it.

856
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,840
So I would not be drafting a Scarff, but I

857
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,559
would keep my finger on the pulse and be ready

858
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,920
to add him him when he seems he might play.

859
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: And the Sharks are usually much better at.

860
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 3: At announcing that kind of thing than even though they

861
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,199
have a new coach, it seems like they've been better

862
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,559
at that than some of the other teams.

863
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: Jesse.

864
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, McKenzie. Blackwood is a guy who is not inexperienced

865
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,039
in rough circumstances like the Sharks will be in this year,

866
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,280
and he really was very good. I'm happy to have

867
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,119
him on my four sport team. I think he'll actually

868
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:27,800
play a role for me this year. And I think

869
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,239
we were hearing I forget if this was again another

870
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,519
name check to thirty two thoughts, but I think they

871
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:37,679
were talking about maybe Askarov not getting all the starts

872
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,519
in San Jose this year as they ease him in slowly,

873
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,599
and that they hope that Nabokov will be able to

874
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:48,400
talk him into not being not thinking that he has

875
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,679
to be the NHL starter. He knows he has a

876
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,639
road to it where he knew that he didn't in Nashville.

877
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,280
So I don't know that it means that he will

878
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,599
be upset, because obviously that was part of the reason

879
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,360
that he got out of Nashville. He wanted to be

880
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,519
in the NHL. But I do think that Mackenzie Blackwood

881
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,679
could have a big role here this year and could

882
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,320
be a sneaky good goalie for you. On the other hand,

883
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,360
just keep in mind that New Jersey got rid of

884
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,360
all their goalies for a reason. They had rough times

885
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,360
there for a long time, and there's a reason why

886
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,800
they've brought in now successively what's his bucket from Montreal

887
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:30,880
and Jake Allen and then Jacob Markstrom because things were

888
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,480
not necessarily going well there. All right, Victor, that is

889
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:36,719
a good tour through a few goalies that we have

890
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,880
on our minds coming into this season. Let's come right back.

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