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Speaker 2: This is Eleanor Langthorne from Vices, Inc. And you're listening

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to Matt Connorton Unleashed on ninety five point three w

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ninety five point three FM. Matt Connorton Unleashed presents the

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world radio premiere of Morning Star by Chasing the Devil.

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Speaker 1: World premiere.

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Speaker 4: This Bird and.

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Speaker 5: New Word, The Light and the Sand Now Love, It's

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we Modus. Please sell me on the family.

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Speaker 6: For the first time. I'm just waiting to hear me.

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I gave you, Lord, don't wasting time, you wall a

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wasting all Wow, and a round and round we go

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where west know one never knows.

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Speaker 4: This can of be a'lllas dance our and this so.

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Speaker 6: You want it away, round and around around, Well, I

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don't know, but I'm not giving up.

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Speaker 6: And round and round we go where we have up?

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can't be, This can't beat, This can't be.

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M exclusive, Matt Connerton Unleashed presents the world radio premiere

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of Play the Game by Sepsis.

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Speaker 1: World premiere.

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Speaker 8: Across simal faces.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. It's Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from

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the studios of w M n H ninety five point

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three f m and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday,

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March eight, twenty twenty five. Couple of world radio premieres

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for you. This morning. We had the new track from

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Chasing the Devil, which has been on streaming platforms for

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a couple of weeks, but the first time it has

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aired on FM terrestrial radio, a great track called Morning Star.

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And we also did the world radio premiere of the

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new track from Sepsis. It's called Play the Game. And

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we have a very busy show for you. I am

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not alone, of course, Jenny John.

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Speaker 9: Jenny is here.

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Speaker 2: Jenny is here at the news table.

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Speaker 9: You step on my good morning, oh, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Well usually I introduce you and then you say good

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morning sunshine. What's that Yeah, you're like what it just

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sounded funny? What there you go? That's better. Yeah, you

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but the mic was was a little off center. That's okay, No,

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it's better now. But we're gonna be uh, we're gonna

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So in just a couple of minutes, the guys from

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It's called All the Drugs, and it was a few

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called All the Drugs and this is Naked Without It.

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Speaker 8: Met a young lady.

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of London pleasure she would see. She made the boy

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so happy, left them with a smile. She earned the

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most money and the king spinning him out.

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Speaker 3: Took her to her restaurant.

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Speaker 15: Her nails were painted black before the night through.

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Speaker 13: While I was under attack. She gone round, she gone back,

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she gone back, she gone blown, She gone black.

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can't speak. Said I'm sorry, honey, I don't know what

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all the drugs are there?

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Speaker 2: The father was underground. Papa's hitting high was the rocker

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saying to show me the night.

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she gon back, she gone and blown. She gone black.

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a whiskey and all the drugs.

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Speaker 4: And Diggy.

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Speaker 2: Such a great track. I love that that is called

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all the Drugs and it is the duo Naked without

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believe we have them on a sky pillow. Gentlemen, Good morning, hello,

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or it's probably it's afternoon there I assume right it is. Yes,

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Welcome back, guys. Hey, since the last time we talked,

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so for for the uninitiated, for those who have not

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heard our previous conversation, would you please each introduce yourselves,

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tell us what you do in this project Naked without It,

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who you are and what you do in the in

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the group.

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Speaker 16: Monks, Tony I play, I sing and play rhythm guitar,

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and I'm Martin play other guitars and some homedies.

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Speaker 2: Very good, very good tone Me and Martin. Welcome back, guys.

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of doing the American radio premiere for that track a

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bit ago and and lots of positive feedback. And it

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looks like you guys are having a lot of success there.

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Uh should we talk about you know, we'll circle back

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to it of course to remind people. But what have

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you got going on today? You've got you've got a

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pretty big event, right, Yeah, we're.

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Speaker 16: Playing like there's a as we said, there's a there's

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a chain of music shops in Britain called hm v I.

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Speaker 3: Then they came over, but they sort of they folded

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Speaker 16: And I know there's something in Canada at one point

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and yes so, but they they've had a bit of

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a resurgence in England with the with the vinyl sort

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of return of vinyl over it.

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Speaker 3: So they they've been doing pretty well.

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Speaker 16: And yes, we're playing an HMV this afternoon about in

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about an hour and half something like that, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Really, that's really cool that you're able to do that too,

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because you know doing in store events. You know, I

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various locations that I worked at. In fact, we did

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a world radio premiere for the band Chasing the Devil

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this morning and one of the guys from Chasing the

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Devil wasn't a band called Purge d I, and we

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working for that company was getting to do those. They

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were so much fun. But it's also one of those

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actually thriving in some cases, which is great to see.

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and uh yeah, congratulations. That's a big opportunity that gets

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you a lot of exposure. And I'm sure you're gonna

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have a lot of people there, so you're gonna be

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you're going to be performing live obviously, right, it's not

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just the signing. You're going to perform, no, will be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.

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good fun because we have for sort of a you

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have a revolving audience, so there's different people coming in

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the shop all.

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Speaker 3: The time as well.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, so we hope, we hope they don't revolve too much,

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because if they come in and see us and internmentum

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revolve straight out of the door, it's not so good.

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Speaker 3: But this one's this one's.

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Speaker 2: Actually in the window of the shop, Oh perfect.

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Speaker 3: As well, so.

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Speaker 16: So we yeah, so anybody sort of wandering through the

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shop content that will just seize us or sees the

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's quite amusing for us.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's been fantastic. Yeah, yeah, I assume there will

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just you know, they find stuff online or whatever, and

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of stuff. And yeah, rich people who perhaps you know,

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wouldn't be checking us out normally, so the kids out

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on the Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. So you're playing are you playing everything from Singles

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Club or are you also playing some of the older

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stuff or what's your what's your plan for your stat list, there's.

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Speaker 16: Mostly singles club yeah, play, We've got, We've got, We've

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got one track from from the new EP called every Time.

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So we've got a new EP coming out on the

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twenty fifth of April, which is called twenty five eight

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Ring Lit Curls.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be the name of the EPH.

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Speaker 16: So that comes out on twenty fifth of April, three

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track EP, and we'll be doing the song every Time

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from that, and then I think as we go into

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the new EP series, we'll be dropping some of the

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older songs. I think, so for me, it's like a

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bit of this is one of the last times we'll

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probably play a couple of these.

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Speaker 3: Songs for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, So we've we've told people that if they

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want to hear some of those some of the singles

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club songs, then get down now because we'll be we'll

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be moving.

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Speaker 3: On to the new stuff.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. I'm really curious about the name of the upcoming

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EPH Can you can you say the name again? It

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was it was a little long. I'm not sure I

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car all of it, and can you tell us can

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you tell us what it means?

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Speaker 16: Well, we're going to do four three track EPs, across

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the next year, so one every three months, and so

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we we called we decided to call a series twenty

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five eight because the way me and M work generally

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through the day, twenty four sevens not long enough, so

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we made it.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five eight. And there's a line in.

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Speaker 16: One of the songs which is called Girl at the Bar,

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and that is just just just to warn America it is.

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Speaker 3: The best country song ever written.

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Speaker 16: So we'll let you have when that comes out, and

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make sure you get that you can spread that across

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America for us.

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Speaker 3: I hate to read it for Nashville, but I'm afraid.

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We've talked to me.

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Speaker 16: And one of the lines is about a girl who

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had ringlet curls. So it's called twenty five eight with curls.

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And then the next DP will be twenty five eight

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something else. When we decide what's song.

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Speaker 2: Oh very cool. I like the whole I like the

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whole concept.

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Speaker 3: Good folks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did it last year.

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Speaker 16: We did it last year when we did Singles Club

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where we were putting out a single every six weeks,

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and then we decided this for this year to do

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twenty five eight. And that's actually going to work out

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as pretty much a single every four weeks, so we've

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given ourselves even more work hence twenty five eight.

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Speaker 2: What's behind the strategy there? Because you know, obviously you

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have enough material to do. You know, if you wanted

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to just put out a full album of new material.

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It sounds like because I assume you guys are always

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writing like why why are you doing it this way?

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And it is it a matter I mean, I'm guessing

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it's a matter of you know, it always gives you

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new new things to post, new things to put out

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there for people to listen to. I assume I can.

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Speaker 16: Feel Martin hatching a very good reply, which is great,

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But my first thought about why are you doing this?

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Speaker 3: I was stupid. You are kind of space it out

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over over time because you know.

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Speaker 11: It's that thing we've talked about four about you know,

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something is very instant and people will listen to it,

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you know, for a short amount of time. You know,

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maybe they'll listen to one or two songs and then

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they'll move on to something else. So give the opportunity

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to you know, we're putting out three songs at a

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time and then a few you know, weeks later, we

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put out three more so you can still have that

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full collection ultimately, but just it just gives it, you know,

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that concert thing, rather than we do one thing and then.

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Speaker 3: Disappear for a year with new music. Then we've got

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always got new music coming out, you know, and that

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keeps us on our toes. You know, Tony is always writing.

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Speaker 11: So if we didn't do that, you know, we'd have

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to put out you know, sort of double albums every

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six months.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: And I think that Mark says that the music now

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is so immediate, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: Everybody wants something new, something new, something new, and you

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I mean bands used to sort of like disappear for

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two years, didn't they They two years and go away.

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Speaker 3: I think now if we went away for two years

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and came back, no, you don't know who we were,

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so we we were. We just so it's like just

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constantly doing them.

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Speaker 16: I mean, as like man says, I do I have

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it's quite I get quite lucky with with with the

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lyrics and things.

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Speaker 3: Song I was.

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Speaker 16: I'm not really told this much, but I like Keith

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Richards always used to say that songs just sort of

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like float by and you have to grab them. And

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Noel Gallagher says the same thing. You have to get

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them as they go and buy Obviously, I would say

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Keith gets the best.

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Speaker 3: Keith used to get the best.

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Speaker 16: He doesn't get them anymore, so you have to sort

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of So I find they sort of arrive sometimes like

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that and you just get an.

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Speaker 3: Idea and you have to run with that. But yeah, yeah,

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I don't know where they come from. It just appear.

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And I really buy into that though. They just appear sometimes,

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and you have if you don't grab them, then it

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really is.

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Speaker 16: If you don't grab them and write them down or

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stick them on your phone now, then then they're gone

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because you forget them the next morning, you forget the

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idea completely.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we have we have quite a few. We

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have quite a few that turn up all the time.

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And technology is so it's better now as well that

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you can do that.

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Speaker 11: You know, the days of wake up the middle the

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night and writing something down on a bed of paper

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next to the bed and then wondering on what you

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were talking about when you wrote that down isn't the

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same because now you can see things into your phone

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or you can record things you know much more accessibly,

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so it gives you a much wider. I mean we've

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both got you know, hundreds of voice notes on our

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phones of ideas and parts and things that you do.

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Speaker 3: And it's great to kind of look back there and go.

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Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, we remember we did that, because you know,

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it might be a rehearsal, it might be you know,

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at a gig or wherever it is, and you do

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it in the moment, but then you go off and

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do other things. And so to be able to come

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back and have that record because sometimes you know, you

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get great ideas and like you say, if you don't

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note them down, they're lost forever, you know. And so yeah,

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so it's really good. Technology in that way is very

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helpful for and and this is how we can speak

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to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 16: We can get over to you and like get ourselves

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onto sort of heard of in New Hampshire, which is amazing.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're very happy to uh, you know, to help

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you enter the American radio market of course. And and

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you know what you were talking to about, uh, what

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you were talking about in terms of documenting these ideas

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as they happen and how technology can help you do

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that and whatnot. There was a documentary I saw a

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very long time ago about Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys,

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and a family member of his had heard him playing

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a song at the piano because he always had a

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million ideas and he's playing this song. I guess it

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was at night and he was getting ready for bed

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and he comes up with the song and someone, his

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daughter or somebody says to him, that's that's amazing. You've

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got to record that. You've got a demo that that's

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that's one of the greatest things you've ever done. And

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Brian Wilson, you know, because he was a little you know,

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he was odd. Uh you know, he had a lot

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of problems of course, which is complicated, but but he

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just kind of shrugs and says, I'll have another idea

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tomorrow and it goes to bed. But but he also

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had that confidence where he just he probably did have

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a great idea the next day too. But yeah, it's

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just funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is nice. It is nice to live

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in a time where you can you can document these

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ideas and then uh, you know, and I think your

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whole approach is great, you guys, So you guys are

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going on So for anyone listening where you are who

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might be because again technology we're able to you know,

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you can stream the show from anywhere in the world.

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What time were you guys going on again at HMV.

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Speaker 3: We're on four o'clock, four o'clock after and it's now

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help us two.

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Speaker 16: Okay, so we're at four o'clock and it's, as you said,

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forty five minute.

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Speaker 3: Set, okay of old ones and new ones. So yeah,

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it should be.

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Speaker 2: Good, outstanding, outstanding, and uh, well, we we'll let you guys.

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We'll let you guys get going because you've got a

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you've got a bus the busy rest of the day ahead.

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But congratulations on that. That's great. I can't wait to

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see some video of it online. I'm sure it's gonna

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go great. And where where should people go? Where the

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where's the best place for people to go who want

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to follow you guys online naked without it? Where's uh,

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where's the best place to go to keep up with

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everything that you're doing?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 11: So all the socials we are n w I band

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and you can find us on Facebook, Twitter or x Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Band camp were on there as well.

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Speaker 11: And yeah, TikTok Big TikToker is Tiktokye tiktoks?

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Speaker 16: How how's how's TikTok going over there? Because at one

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point wasn't it? Donald said he wasn't having.

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Speaker 2: It, and then he said he was this This exact

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subject came up recently with another guest, I think a

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couple of weeks ago. Uh So, it was gone for

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I think one day, and then it was back, and

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now nobody's talking about it like you know it was

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it was. It was banned for for a full day

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and then it just was back. And I don't know,

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I don't know how much attention you guys pay attention

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to American politics. You probably at least a little bit,

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because it's unavoidable and it's it's all over the Yeah,

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it's it's very very messy right now. And of course

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TikTok became a political issue. So uh So, I don't know.

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As far as I know, TikTok is safe for now,

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but that could change in the next five minutes. I

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I really don't know.

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Speaker 3: Look n Wi band and then that'll pass the time

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until it gets taken down again.

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Speaker 10: There you go.

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Speaker 16: There was there's a like a reality TV couple over

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here called Molly May and Tommy Fury. They yeah, they

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they seem to split up and get back together, and

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split up and get back to So every time they

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split up, my my nineteen year old always says to

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me that she she telled me that they split up

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and we track off a singles club called Molly Has

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Has It starts with no no no, Molly, No no no,

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And that's generally the feeling of the nation, I think.

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So every time you split up and go on TikTok

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and do some new bit for it, and ten thousand

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people actually stream and stream that stream the track Molly

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off off of TikTok.

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Speaker 3: So so thank you to Molly May, whoever she may be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what, I think, that's how we'll

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00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,039
end the segment I was looking for. I was going

480
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,680
to play another track, of course from singles Club to

481
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,480
close out our conversation. I should play Molly since we

482
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were talking.

483
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,799
Speaker 3: About fantastic for it.

484
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, guys, Tony and Martin, thank you

485
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:49,640
both so much. We're going to hit that track in

486
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,960
a moment. We'll let you get going. But again, you've

487
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,359
got a busy afternoon into the evening ahead, So good

488
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,079
luck today. Congratulations and we will talk again soon. We oh,

489
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,240
you've got plenty of new music coming, so we'll definitely

490
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,880
talk to you again soon. And guys, thank you so much.

491
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for having us.

492
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:11,839
Speaker 2: You got it all right, guys, take care, bye bye bye.

493
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: All right.

494
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:16,519
Speaker 2: That is Tony and Martin from the acoustic duo from

495
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,920
the UK Naked Without It. Those guys are a lot

496
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,920
of fun and I love their music and they've got

497
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,799
a big opportunity today at HMV uh so that's very cool.

498
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400
Please if you happen to be over there, check them out.

499
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And as promised, we will end the segment with this.

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This is another track from their release Singles Club, and

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this is called Molly No.

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Speaker 14: Molly, Oh Molly, Molly, No, Molly, No, Molly, no, Molly No.

503
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,599
Speaker 15: Molly's gonna be a movie stars since five years old.

504
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,960
She's gonna go far, gonna get herself fuck found. The

505
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,359
scream knows exactly where she wants to fig Nothing's gonna

506
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,200
catch and Molly's way all playing out.

507
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:34,519
Speaker 2: She could see the tack.

508
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 14: Under Hollywood Walker fame, carving out Molly's name.

509
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 18: No no, no, Molly, no no no, Molly no no no,

510
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:54,920
Molly no no no no Old Molly, no, no, no,

511
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,960
oh Molly, no no, no, no, Molly no.

512
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:05,599
Speaker 15: Stevee's gonna be a football star. Daddy told him he's

513
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,160
gonna go far, gonna get signed by the greatest team.

514
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,559
He's gonna feel failed Daddy's drench. Stevie's gotta work to

515
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,920
make it pay, But Steve's gonna make it anyway. Five

516
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:22,519
the Cocaine, Far more fun, always gonna be the chosen world.

517
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 18: But nope, no no Molly, no no, Molly, you do

518
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:36,240
no no Molly, no no no no, oh Molly, you

519
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:41,759
know no no, oh Molly, you do no no Molly. Now,

520
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:08,039
life is life.

521
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,359
Speaker 14: Molly's gonna be Stevie's why.

522
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,319
Speaker 3: I's gonna be home in a.

523
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,599
Speaker 18: Little challenge you point for and a pretty gown baby

524
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,200
on the way.

525
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 14: He gotta layel around legs and money man.

526
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,799
Speaker 13: Moley sees life from the TV screen name Steedee and

527
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,440
the pipe what could have been?

528
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:37,359
Speaker 18: No, no, no, no, Molly, no no, Molly, no no, Golly,

529
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:45,680
no no no, Molly, you know no, no Molly.

530
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:53,359
Speaker 14: No no Balley. Molly's gonna be a movie star. Yea,

531
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:55,680
Milly's gonna be a movie star.

532
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, Miley's gonna do a movie.

533
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,839
Speaker 3: Molly's going to be He's staring.

534
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 18: Miley's going to be a movie star in Molly's gonna

535
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,400
be No movies.

536
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 14: No no, no, oh Molly, no no no oh Molly.

537
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:25,360
No no no Molly, no no no no o' molly

538
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,960
no no no o' molly, no no no Molly no.

539
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Speaker 7: The Commander don't get supreme Lyada Maxwell coming.

540
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Speaker 2: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the

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studios of w m n H ninety five point three

542
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,920
f M and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and of course

543
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,039
today if you are listening live it it's Saturday March eight,

544
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,679
two thousand to twenty five. Jenny is here, of course

545
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,760
at the news table, and thank you again to the

546
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,519
guys from Naked Without. It always fun to talk to them.

547
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,639
It's cool that they get to do an instore.

548
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,079
Speaker 9: Event, right, that's really cool.

549
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:11,559
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

550
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 9: I think.

551
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: What weekend is it? Yes, we get to spring ahead forward, Yeah,

552
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,000
which messes with a lot of people. It's never bothered me,

553
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,679
but a lot of people have difficulty with the time change.

554
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 19: I want to change it and leave it there. Yeah,

555
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,239
I mean I want to change it again. I want

556
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,519
to change to leave it there, keep the extra sunlight

557
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:31,400
and stop it.

558
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't care. I don't care either way,

559
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,639
to be honest with you. But I'm always happy in

560
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,000
the sense that at least when we do change the

561
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,280
clock going into spring, it's like, okay, it's spring, even

562
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,559
though technically it's not until the twentieth but still it

563
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,760
just makes it makes it feel more like spring. And

564
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,480
the weather's warmer, and my sinuses are stuffy, which is

565
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,159
of course the sign of spring. I always say, never

566
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,480
mind the groundhog. My sinuses will tell us when it's springtime.

567
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,679
And according to my sinuses, springtime is now.

568
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 9: It's sprung.

569
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, So again, we've got a lot of

570
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,199
show to go today, we have a very busy show.

571
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,719
Elijah Jenkins, another great UK artist, is going to be

572
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,039
joining us at the top of the hour, and we

573
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:16,679
recently did the American radio premiere of his newest track

574
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,519
Stay Tonight, and He's got He's got a bunch of

575
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,719
he's got a bunch of great songs. But looking forward

576
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,840
to speaking with him. And then and then at ten

577
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,559
thirty am Eastern time, we have Harry Zack phazakly I

578
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,039
practiced saying his name, and now I can't remember how

579
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,599
to say it. Fazakerlely. I think it's Fazakerly. I will

580
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:41,199
get clarification from him when he's on the air. I

581
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,800
believe it's Fazakerly. Harry Fazackerly, another young in his teens,

582
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,840
but he's doing this incredible music and so he's got

583
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,840
a great new track called I Want to Go Home,

584
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,679
and today will be the American radio premiere of his

585
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,079
new single, So looking forward to speaking with him. And

586
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,159
then in the third hour we have the band Sick

587
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,880
Dude hell Yeah coming in and really looking forward to that.

588
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:04,719
And yes that is the name of the band, Sick

589
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,280
Dude hell Yeah. Yeah yeah, very cool. So so we've

590
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,760
got a very busy show for you ahead, and of

591
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,639
course we did open the show with a couple of

592
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,280
world radio premieres today, the brand new track from Chasing

593
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,559
the Devil. It's been on streaming platforms for a couple

594
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:19,679
of weeks now, I believe, but today was the first

595
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,079
time that we've heard the track Morning Star on FM

596
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:26,159
terrestrial radio. And love those guys so much. Everything they

597
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:28,639
do is amazing. And we also world premiered the new

598
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,000
Sepsis track called Play the Game. So lots going on,

599
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,039
and of course you know we have our American radio

600
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,639
premieres today as well, or one of course from Harry

601
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,679
Harry Fazakerley to American premiers. Who's the other one.

602
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:45,639
Speaker 1: Who?

603
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,559
Speaker 2: No, Harry Fazakerley is the only American radio premiere this week.

604
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,079
If you're thinking of Elijah Jenkins, we already did the

605
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,159
premiere for his new song just today, but today we're

606
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:58,079
going to actually get to speak with him. So looking

607
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,800
forward to that. I did, I got it, Looking forward

608
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,800
to that. We should too. You've got a big event

609
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,599
coming up, another big art show coming.

610
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 19: Up, Yes, the Uncensored Underground Art Experience on March fifteenth,

611
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,000
from six to eight pm at twenty Garden Walk here

612
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:17,320
in the Queen City of Manchester. A showcase of political,

613
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,639
provocative and other anti censorship art not safe for work

614
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:29,400
and not suitable for all audiences, featuring work by Hazel Grindarck, Dapper,

615
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,440
Tom Borsia Jones and many many more.

616
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,639
Speaker 9: So come on down. I will be there.

617
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,119
Speaker 19: Matt will be there on March fifteenth from six to eight.

618
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,880
I am proud to say that I have some of

619
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,199
my I don't know exactly how many paintings they hung.

620
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,800
They asked me to bring down the entire collection, which

621
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,840
is five very large paintings that have.

622
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,079
Speaker 9: To do with insurance.

623
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the insurance collection specifically, not your entire collection of

624
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,119
everything you've done, Yeah.

625
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:57,119
Speaker 19: Just the insurance collection, which is the collection of five

626
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:58,880
different paintings. So I did bring them down there, and

627
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,800
I'm excited to see which ones they chose to hang

628
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,480
and what else is on display. So definitely join us

629
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,039
March fifteenth from sixty eight at twenty Garden Walk here

630
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,039
in Manchester the Uncensored Underground Art Experience.

631
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:15,559
Speaker 3: Very good.

632
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 2: Congratulations on that. You should mention your website too, so

633
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,000
people know where to keep up with all this stuff.

634
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,159
Speaker 1: That you're doing.

635
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,039
Speaker 19: Actually see the collection for yourself and much more information

636
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:27,559
about me and my volunteerism at Gencoffee dot com j

637
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,119
E N N C O F f e y dot com.

638
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,199
And for those who wonder what that means, it means

639
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,599
I am out there helping people fight to get the healthcare.

640
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 9: They need to live.

641
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 6: Yes.

642
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely, We've been talking a lot about AI on the show.

643
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:48,239
Last week we did our experiment with Souno dot com

644
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,599
where we made some tracks, and apparently it is even

645
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:55,079
easier than I could have imagined.

646
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 19: Too easy, stupid easy, Yeah, like really too easy. If

647
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:02,920
you didn't hear the show last week, seriously, go back

648
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,639
and listen to it. Yeah, we didn't give it a ton,

649
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,880
just some basic info and it actually spit out some

650
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:11,280
decent music.

651
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,519
Speaker 9: And it's concerning because how do you know that's AI?

652
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:20,039
Speaker 19: Right, Like, you need AI to find out that it's AI,

653
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,440
and then what music did they use to learn that?

654
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,159
Speaker 9: You're right? Yeah, nothing coming out of AI.

655
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 19: Didn't have a human On the other end, they're they're

656
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:33,960
taking all of the art, all of the creations from

657
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:38,480
music genres across the spectrum, from artists everywhere, throwing that

658
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:41,400
in a computer and having it spit back out. It's

659
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:47,000
to me, it's still using other people's work. So that's

660
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,719
my my I there has to be a way to

661
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,800
tell the difference between real human creativity and AI.

662
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go back and listen to last week's show,

663
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,920
you can check out some of the tracks a week

664
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960
just with a simple prompt and what it was able

665
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,719
to spit out. Suno dot Com is a service and

666
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,880
they're actually they're free. The free version of the service

667
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,119
is pretty generous. They give you, you know, you can

668
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,920
make ten songs a month, which might not sound like

669
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,599
a lot. But some of these services, you know, they

670
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,079
they try to get you into a free trial and

671
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,000
get you hooked on it so then you'll be willing

672
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:22,960
to pay for it every month. But what Suno does

673
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,119
is the free option that they offer is actually pretty good.

674
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000
But if you want to hear, so you can hear.

675
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,320
What we did live on the air was something we'd

676
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,239
wanted to get to for a while, just kind of

677
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,119
an experiment of creating tracks using one of these AI services,

678
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:41,039
and and we created several and and of course I

679
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,840
did put the the mc hammer distracks because of course

680
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,760
my long running feud with mc hammer going back six

681
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,519
years now, Time listeners Effort six years now. Yes, uh

682
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:53,039
we did.

683
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 9: I did.

684
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: We ended up making four distracts using Souno dot com

685
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,639
and I did post them all on YouTube as well,

686
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,519
So in your face Hammers. Yeah, that's right.

687
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 19: So people did an article recently about Celine Dion, so

688
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,679
the AI is crossing all gendres as far as what

689
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,159
it's doing.

690
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 9: But apparently Selene Dion did an.

691
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,559
Speaker 19: Instagram post this past Friday just yesterday calling out AI

692
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,880
and saying that her voice has been allegedly used in

693
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,199
an unsanctioned way that she did not approve of. That

694
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:36,840
it sounds like it's her giving a performance. But it's

695
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,440
not pretty upsetting when you can consider the fact that,

696
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:42,559
I mean, for one thing, she's an amazing artist.

697
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 9: But this woman is going through enough right now without

698
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,920
this on top of it all.

699
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 19: I mean, look, can we just say that, because I'm

700
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,639
really this upset me to see, of all people, you

701
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,000
got to go after somebody who's literally fighting for their life.

702
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,360
That's pretty down and low and disgusting if you ask me.

703
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,480
But to quota it said, it has come to our

704
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:11,320
attention that I'm sanctioned AI generated music purporting to contain

705
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,800
Celine Dion's musical performances and names and likenesses excuse me

706
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,360
and name and likeness is currently circulating online and across

707
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:22,840
various digital service providers.

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Speaker 9: Please be advised that these.

709
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Speaker 19: Recordings are fake and not approved, and are not songs

710
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,880
from her official discography.

711
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,039
Speaker 2: So we should clarify this because I think I understand

712
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
you know, I only had a chance to glance at

713
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,079
this before, but I so because my first thought was well,

714
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:44,920
how do you approve that her copyrighted work has been

715
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,039
used to train these AI models? And then I realized

716
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,239
that's not exactly what's happening here, right, people are creating

717
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,480
AI versions and claiming it is her.

718
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 19: Yes, okay, yeah, this is actually they're putting stuff out

719
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,760
saying it's her, yeah, and it's it's not by any

720
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,679
you know, so this so she just.

721
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: Got, well, you know what this reminds me of? And

722
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:04,159
this was over a year ago, I think now that

723
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,599
we talked about it, somebody created on YouTube they posted

724
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,280
an AI version of a brand new George Carlin album. Yes,

725
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,880
remember we talked about that, and that was interesting. We

726
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,039
actually played a little bit of it. We played the

727
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:20,199
very beginning of it on the show because I'd already

728
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,119
listened to it, so I knew where the first swear was,

729
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,119
so I knew how far how far into it I

730
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,079
could play because I wanted to give people an idea

731
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,159
of what it sounded like and very real sound. It

732
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,480
did sound very real, and not only that, I ended

733
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:34,119
up listening to the entire hour. It actually was funny too,

734
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,079
Like it wasn't like, okay, it sounded like his voice,

735
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,079
but the jokes were really lame. Like I actually laughed

736
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,000
listening to that special, which is part of why some

737
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,039
people at the time were a little bit skeptical and

738
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:51,960
probably still are that because the people who created it

739
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,159
claimed that it was entirely AI generated, but some people

740
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,920
listened to it and said, hmm, yeah, the voice maybe,

741
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,119
But some of those jokes, there's no way those were

742
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,360
written by AI. Those were inserted by who ever made it,

743
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,079
but who knows. But yeah, you can make.

744
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,679
Speaker 9: Very That's something that anybody can really say.

745
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can make very realistic.

746
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 12: With it.

747
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 9: That's smart of what you give it.

748
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 19: So if you fed everything to it of George Carlin,

749
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,039
I actually don't doubt that it could write George Carlin

750
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,519
jokes because it would have learned from that. You know,

751
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:25,119
it's a computer what you feed it, right, all the

752
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,880
bigga ones and zeros.

753
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:30,119
Speaker 2: But humor is Humor is different though. That's why I'm

754
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:32,039
also I'm one of the people who is skeptical. But

755
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:33,800
who knows. We'll probably never know the truth.

756
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 9: I got you, yeah, but I mean.

757
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 19: In April of last year, there were over two hundred

758
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:42,719
artists that got together and created an Artist Rights Alliance

759
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,400
and they sign letters and we're trying to get people

760
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,440
to pay attention and saying that you know that they

761
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:54,679
want they want laws to protect them, and they want

762
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,559
AI developers to have some freaking morals, I think, and

763
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,119
not steal from them, because it really is it's stealing

764
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:08,199
somebody else's. Are you're stealing theon Celene Dion's voice? That's

765
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,920
so wrong. It's more wrong by because of who they

766
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:15,639
chose to pick on as somebody who's literally fighting for

767
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,639
the If you don't know, Selene Dion has what's called

768
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,199
stiff person syndrome. That's why she can't perform anymore. It

769
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,599
only does on very very rare occasions. It's extraordinarily painful.

770
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:31,559
She suffers immense, just chronic every day suffering that you

771
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:34,719
cannot even imagine. And that's who they pick. They steal

772
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,360
her voice, put music out there, claim it's her, trying

773
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,440
to make money off of her.

774
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: We'll also want to make a clear distinction here again

775
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,400
going back to what's really happening in this instance, because

776
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,719
you know, we've had a lot of conversations about generative AI,

777
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,920
these large learning models. You know, they suck up all

778
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,000
this information and all this art, all this creativity and

779
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,079
then spit out what they spit out, and we've we've

780
00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,599
had conversations debating about whether that's okay or not. But

781
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:04,880
this is different in that this because this is not

782
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,320
there's no there's no ambiguity here, because this is fraud

783
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,800
if you're creating something, because you can take the AI

784
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,599
completely out of it. Let's let's say it's just somebody

785
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:18,800
who does a really good impression of Celene Dion recording

786
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,400
a song and then claiming that it is Selene Deon.

787
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,679
That's out. That's outright fraud. If you create something and

788
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,079
then and then and you claim it's something that it's not,

789
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,400
that's that's fraud. There's no ambiguity there.

790
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 9: But the only.

791
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 19: Differences in this instance, because it's AI, they can make

792
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,880
it sound just like her. It's not just kind of

793
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:42,119
like it's just like her, you know, because computers can

794
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,599
imitate everything, right, and these and what the Artist Rights

795
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:48,599
Alliance is trying to do is protect each other. So

796
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,039
when I'm talking about over two hundred like really big

797
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:54,039
names signed on to this, like Billie Irish and and

798
00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,519
She's imagine Dragons, Sheryl Crow, Stevie Wonder, a whole lot

799
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,480
of people and they they're from their perspective.

800
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 9: And I want to give this quote because I think

801
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,679
it's a great quote.

802
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:12,599
Speaker 19: They said quote Unfortunately, some platforms and developers are employing

803
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:18,920
AI to sabotage creativity and undermined artists, songwriters, musicians, and

804
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,159
rights holders. And I think that that's a very a

805
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,159
very perfect statement. It is sabotaging their creativity. It's theft

806
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:30,079
and fraud to steal somebody else's labors, turn it into

807
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:33,079
whatever you want to turn it into. You know that

808
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,880
it's and you know what, artists have enough problems these

809
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,599
days making money off their own music.

810
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 9: I mean we've talked about that before. What do they

811
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:43,360
make less than what?

812
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 12: Is it?

813
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 9: A whatever?

814
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 19: And it's not even a full penny off the spot? Right,

815
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:52,360
So in the old days, you printed an album, you

816
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,719
made your money off of in part apples sales, album sales,

817
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,519
and then touring.

818
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,119
Speaker 9: These days you're making more of.

819
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 19: Your money off of tour because you can't make as

820
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,360
much money off at album sales.

821
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: Although although what a lot of people don't realize is

822
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,960
it's kind of it's it's it's uh in terms of

823
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,559
trying to earn revenue from streaming, it's kind of a

824
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,880
worse version of what was already the model, in the

825
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:20,440
sense that you never really made that much off of

826
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:24,360
album sales. This is something people don't know, and I've

827
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,840
given this example before, but I remember when I was

828
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,719
a kid when I first started to realize, because I

829
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,559
was fascinated by all you know, all this stuff. I mean, AI,

830
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:33,960
we didn't have yet. But when I was a kid,

831
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,719
I was always very interested in the music industry and

832
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,800
how it works. And I remember reading an interview with

833
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,559
meat Loaf and he was talking about Bad Out of

834
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:42,719
Hell and of course, which by now is probably sold

835
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,119
and it might be it may have surpassed one hundred

836
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:48,199
million at this point, but he was talking about how

837
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,559
he didn't really make that much money, like he said,

838
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,440
you know, he got like a quarter a quarter, like

839
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:56,840
twenty five cents a quarter per unit sold. Wow, you know,

840
00:49:57,159 --> 00:49:59,360
And but that's that's not unusual.

841
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 19: Although music didn't get in music kind of be transferred

842
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,199
from one person to another in an album. Yeah, for

843
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,760
at a cassette you couldn't just electronically, but it.

844
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,159
Speaker 2: Wasn't but it wasn't as much. That's why I like,

845
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,280
sometimes every once in a while you'll hear a very

846
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,320
successful I remember Kurt Cobain, you know, of course he

847
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:18,280
took himself away from us very young. But I remember

848
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,920
when Nirvana first got really big. He made a comment

849
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,960
in an interview about you know, people think because we're famous,

850
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:26,840
we're rich, and it's it doesn't work that way. He said,

851
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,519
you'd be surprised how broke we are. And TLC we've

852
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,920
talked about that a great example. They were triple platinum

853
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,159
and broke. The money has always been in touring, the

854
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:39,280
big money, and now even touring is is as that

855
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,280
has become more cost prohibitive. Now the money really is

856
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,639
in merch and of course licensing. You know, if you

857
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,679
license your music, say to for a film or a

858
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,079
TV series or something, then you can make a lot

859
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:51,599
of money. There's always been a lot of money in

860
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,840
licensing and that persists. But whatney do you think they

861
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,800
make in licensing?

862
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:59,599
Speaker 19: Like when you're a venue having a license to be

863
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:01,719
able to to have an artist come in and play

864
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,280
certain songs. Venues can't have, can only have certain music

865
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,000
that the license for. Do they get the artists make

866
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,760
money off of that or is that really something that well, yeah,

867
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,719
it doesn't get them much.

868
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't get them much. I mean those performing rights

869
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:19,079
organizations like as CAP and BMI. Yeah, they're supposed to

870
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:22,960
make sure that you get paid. But but but for

871
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,639
that it's it's yeah, we're not We're talking about yeah,

872
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,519
Spotify money.

873
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 9: The bottom line, it's really hard for artists to be

874
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,480
able to make money.

875
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:33,639
Speaker 19: So to have AI ripping off artists voices or you know,

876
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,719
creating songs that they didn't even sing.

877
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is not good.

878
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:41,599
Speaker 9: And I I mean, I do believe and I do

879
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,639
agree with it. I do believe that it does.

880
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 19: They are correct in saying it's sabotage and creativity. It's

881
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,920
stealing creativity, it's stealing the life's blood of an artist.

882
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,239
You know, whatever I put on a piece of canvas

883
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:58,039
came out of my me, right, I wouldn't you know

884
00:51:58,079 --> 00:51:59,840
what I mean you think about when I think of

885
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:03,199
it that way, it's like a musician's song is their baby,

886
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,719
that's their soul. You know what it actually brings up

887
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,719
is I know it's slightly off, but when with Wren

888
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,360
the artist, Wren the rapper, Wren, he used a piece

889
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,159
of music, he spent like tune it all to buy

890
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:23,119
it and Kujo another rapper or something had ownership over

891
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:25,639
that piece, and when he saw Wren made so much money,

892
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,760
he went and tried to sue.

893
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:27,039
Speaker 9: Him for it.

894
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah what Yeah, we never really talked about it on

895
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,599
the show. But yeah, that that turned into quite a mess.

896
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 19: Oh but the but if if you want to hear

897
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,000
a really great disc track, you got to listen to

898
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,960
Wren's disk track on But.

899
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: That wasn't even even an AI situation. It was it

900
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,400
was over a sample. It was created.

901
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:47,159
Speaker 19: Yeah, this was trying and in in the disc track

902
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,159
and what he would say and what Ren would say

903
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:52,920
off airs. He's trying to steal my creativity. He's trying

904
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,679
to steal my creat That song was so personable and

905
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920
so much of his own soul and lifeblood in there. Yeah,

906
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,880
have somebody come along and say, that's not your creativity,

907
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840
it's mine. Yeah, from this two second whatever that he

908
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:09,159
bought and paid for to use this, it's just a SoundBite.

909
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 9: It's just a clip. Yeah, the whole song. It didn't

910
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:13,119
you know, it's nothing like that.

911
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 19: It's just a particular looping sound Yeah, and he bought

912
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,800
and paid for it correctly. And this guy, you know,

913
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,760
I want money, right, I see you making money.

914
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 9: I want that money. Yeah, trying, But he Wren said

915
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,320
the same thing.

916
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 19: You're trying to steal my creativity, my creation, Yeah, and

917
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,199
it so if you look at it in all these

918
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,159
different situations, it's it is. It's stealing the very soul,

919
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,679
lifeblood of an artist.

920
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:39,199
Speaker 7: Yeah.

921
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