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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here
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Speaker 3: me today is Jim Monico, former ad at PIMA.
Speaker 4: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm great, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Great to see you. I haven't seen you physically in
Speaker 4: a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, lucky you. No, I'm sure that. I'm sure
Speaker 3: that retirement has been good.
Speaker 2: It has been good. Think, Yeah, everything's being.
Speaker 4: Well, great, great.
Speaker 2: What have you been up here?
Speaker 4: You've been retired maybe eleven months?
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 5: So it was end of April, so I guess five
Speaker 5: five six, heading.
Speaker 4: In Oh, Okay, so you went to the school year
Speaker 4: pretty much.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: They asked me to stay to June.
Speaker 4: Oh oh didn't.
Speaker 5: I had written on the board and I said, you
Speaker 5: know what, this is the day I'm leaving. And they're like,
Speaker 5: why would you pick April twenty third? I say, because
Speaker 5: it just matched up with everything.
Speaker 3: Because you go to like me right, or I guess
Speaker 3: after June at the end of the fistal Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: and have you had an itch? No, you probably won't.
Speaker 4: You probably won't have an itch to come back.
Speaker 5: You know, as of right now, I've just forty three years.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of well yeah, and you know, I'm
Speaker 5: having a great time. I'm really really trying to play golf,
Speaker 5: which is the I mean, I've played golf, but god,
Speaker 5: when you really try to play that game, it's it's stupid.
Speaker 3: Why you frustrate yourself going out? And that's why I
Speaker 3: don't play it, because I'd be pissed all.
Speaker 5: The time, and that's what I get yelled at. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you had a great game, No I didn't.
Speaker 4: You can.
Speaker 5: It's just that it's that coaching mentality. You're always looking
Speaker 5: to improve something in that sport. You just can play.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, because you are a former
Speaker 3: coach by a former athlete time ago, Uh, what do
Speaker 3: you got the juices going to keep that flow of
Speaker 3: being a competitor.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you had to say a long
Speaker 2: time ago.
Speaker 3: Well, because we're both old, we're both you're right, Yes,
Speaker 3: So you know you shoot pool, you play paint?
Speaker 4: What do you what do I do?
Speaker 2: I play a lot of golf.
Speaker 4: Oh so, that's true.
Speaker 5: It is, it is, and I work, I hit so
Speaker 5: many golf balls and they're telling me you need to
Speaker 5: slow down, you shouldn't hit so much. But it's just
Speaker 5: that stupid grind mentality. Yeah, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: We'll see, we'll see if if after a year or so,
Speaker 5: I want to get back and doing some coaching.
Speaker 3: Right, right, And you'll probably want to. Yeah, but you
Speaker 3: also probably don't want that frustration either.
Speaker 5: You know what really kills you now and you can
Speaker 5: and you know, as you get older, I don't want
Speaker 5: to be doing them two and three hour bus.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well see, and you're different because those bus
Speaker 3: rides do take.
Speaker 5: It till oh your body's beat up from playing and
Speaker 5: coaching and everything else, and you're just getting older and
Speaker 5: sitting on a bus.
Speaker 3: I would I would venture to guess, though, how many
Speaker 3: kids on a team high school or college college which
Speaker 3: you were doing.
Speaker 2: I guess most used to keep about one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3: Well, see, there's my problem that I would think there
Speaker 3: would be your problem, or maybe not.
Speaker 4: Oh you have one hundred and twenty kids.
Speaker 3: You don't want to saying you have one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty kids and you hope against hope that they don't
Speaker 3: get in trouble, that they're healthy, that they're happy, and
Speaker 3: you know, out of one hundred and twenty kids, there
Speaker 3: could be an issue there.
Speaker 5: There will be an issue there. There's always an issue.
Speaker 5: You know, when you have one hundred and twenty young
Speaker 5: men between the ages of eighteen and twenty one twenty two,
Speaker 5: it gets difficult because they're in that in between stage
Speaker 5: and they're not kids, and they're and if you consider
Speaker 5: them kids, they're very big or faster, strong kids, and
Speaker 5: sometimes they do just get themselves in a bad position
Speaker 5: and you do the best you can, but you have
Speaker 5: to be reliable enough that you take responsibility and you
Speaker 5: handle your business the right way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure, uh not that we can get it
Speaker 3: all crazy with this, but I'm sure that sometimes it
Speaker 3: kept you up at night, you know, after big wins.
Speaker 3: That's a tough losses. And you've gone through years of
Speaker 3: it too. Yeah, that's mild that's that's putting it years
Speaker 3: of it. That's putting it mildly. Yeah, you're up a lot.
Speaker 5: And you know, my wife always held uh you know,
Speaker 5: he held my nose to the Grindstone on that fact,
Speaker 5: because when you recruit a kid, yeah, you bring them
Speaker 5: here from Hawaii or just Phoenix. You know, you're telling
Speaker 5: that parent listen, I'm here, you know, and when that
Speaker 5: person calls you, they're very sick or something happened, and
Speaker 5: it's two o'clock in the morning. You know, she'd look
Speaker 5: at me and I'd be getting up slowly, but she said,
Speaker 5: you know you have to go. You promised, And I said,
Speaker 5: you're right. I did, and and and you know, I
Speaker 5: was just blessed to have amazing coaches that worked with me,
Speaker 5: that that felt the same way, that took that same
Speaker 5: responsibility for their positions.
Speaker 4: What's that. What's the thing you don't miss the most?
Speaker 2: The administrative work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what you did. It's terrible in your
Speaker 3: final six six years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but see that is your job then, right,
Speaker 5: you can you can live with that because you take
Speaker 5: that position at your job. But when you're the head coach,
Speaker 5: and especially at a college, you know, you don't coach,
Speaker 5: you you do everything else. You're making sure schedules are right,
Speaker 5: and professors are calling you, and and and counselors are
Speaker 5: calling you, and the kids are calling you, and then
Speaker 5: you have to go to a meeting with this one
Speaker 5: and meet with your AD and be at the business office.
Speaker 5: And but that's why when people say to me, why
Speaker 5: aren't you a coordinator? You know in high school you
Speaker 5: always coordinate a defense or offense or whatever it's it,
Speaker 5: because I just want to coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let me say you were there for six years.
Speaker 3: You jumped in after the football program went down, right right?
Speaker 3: Uh So at some point did you say, God, do
Speaker 3: I miss football?
Speaker 4: What the hell am I doing in this?
Speaker 5: You know, I'll be dead serious with you. I was
Speaker 5: really kind of in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you it was it was you didn't
Speaker 3: like that type of stuff, but you liked.
Speaker 5: The B and the A D being the you know
Speaker 5: Kenny Hockemy, who's doing an amazing Kenny's doing an amazing job.
Speaker 5: And when when Edgar left it in good shape, we
Speaker 5: worked really hard to take it even in better shape. Right,
Speaker 5: the GPAs were high. We got things done, we got sponsorships,
Speaker 5: we got this, that and the other thing. Kenny Hockemy
Speaker 5: has that that name locally that he can continue to
Speaker 5: get that done. But he's a very analytical guy. So
Speaker 5: where I wasn't. I was more than people guy. I
Speaker 5: was in the public and talking whatever. Ken can still
Speaker 5: do that, but he's very, very bright, and he's doing
Speaker 5: a lot of great things at the college right now,
Speaker 5: and he's continuing to improve on the great things we did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the.
Speaker 3: Things that I don't think people know enough, and maybe
Speaker 3: that's just my philosophy, that the world is a people
Speaker 3: personal place that if you don't have that people's skill
Speaker 3: trait or whatever, it's hard to succeed on it. And
Speaker 3: you have it, you know, you just said you had it,
Speaker 3: and people know when people have it.
Speaker 4: Do you agree? Disagree?
Speaker 5: I agree completely, I think maybe because that's my strong suit.
Speaker 2: But it's important. It's important.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I had an old boss, Bruce Moses, who is here,
Speaker 5: and I was kind of that guy that was our
Speaker 5: you know that screw him, We're going to do it
Speaker 5: our way. And he's like, oh, you know, you really
Speaker 5: need to make friends. And I got enough friends, but you.
Speaker 2: Don't have enough.
Speaker 4: You realize you need friends, that's right.
Speaker 5: And the more I got into you know, just not
Speaker 5: being I guess a brace of with those that that
Speaker 5: you didn't want to really deal with and started to
Speaker 5: deal with him. You found that, you know what they
Speaker 5: actually said, you know, he's likable, this and and I
Speaker 5: got a lot more done.
Speaker 6: Let's put it.
Speaker 3: So, let me ask you, because we've talked about this
Speaker 3: before when you were a guest a time or two.
Speaker 4: You're from the East Coast. How did I know?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure that so the East coast New Jersey
Speaker 3: is I'm sorry, New York Ish where bos Oh? Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 3: I apologize. I'm gonna have to go to confession. What
Speaker 3: I'm thinking now, that's that's fine. And I might have
Speaker 3: to hope you go to confessions because I need you here. Okay,
Speaker 3: So you're in Boston. Uh, it's a different mentality out here.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: It absolutely is, and you had to change it kind.
Speaker 5: Of, you know, honestly, it was it was more people
Speaker 5: would come up and say, you know, you're not a jerk,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, why why am I jerk?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: You're loud and and this, and and I'm like, guys,
Speaker 5: I'll give you the shirt off my back. I just
Speaker 5: that's just me. You know, God didn't give me a
Speaker 5: whisper gene. I'm loud. I guess it sounds abrasive and
Speaker 5: that's just me. But when when people and and you know,
Speaker 5: that was probably my best attribute in coaching was I
Speaker 5: had a player once come to me and he knocks
Speaker 5: on my door and he's like, coach, can I talk
Speaker 5: to you a minute?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And he was a D line kid from me and
Speaker 5: I won't say his name, but he's he's still local. Uh,
Speaker 5: he's coaching up in Phoenix, played at Memphis. Heck of
Speaker 5: a ballplayer.
Speaker 4: We could we can deduce, We'll deduce from all that.
Speaker 2: And he walks in.
Speaker 5: He says, can I ask you a personal question? He said, absolutely, buddy.
Speaker 5: He goes, how do you take us out on the
Speaker 5: field and when everybody else is just kind of warming up,
Speaker 5: you're beating the.
Speaker 2: Crap out of us?
Speaker 5: And then you hard on practice and then you keep
Speaker 5: us extra and we work more.
Speaker 2: And then we walk in the office and you're like,
Speaker 2: hug us and tell you say you love.
Speaker 5: Us, And he goes, are you by poor? And I went,
Speaker 5: I don't think, But I said, that's the difference between
Speaker 5: those white lines. I need you to be a different
Speaker 5: human being than you are to the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: That's so funny because I wanted one of the reasons
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring you in is because you have
Speaker 3: that experience. You were a former police officer, turn coach
Speaker 3: football and other sports.
Speaker 5: Or just yeah, no, I coached. I actually coached high
Speaker 5: school baseball and football. Okay, majority I.
Speaker 3: Don't if you saw clip over the weekend, it was
Speaker 3: with the LSU coach.
Speaker 4: I think it was.
Speaker 3: When he was getting on his player, yeah, quarterback, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then and then he was getting on him. And
Speaker 3: on TV you see everything, right, so you saw it
Speaker 3: yell and adam or getting into him, and then I
Speaker 3: guess later another player got into it with him with
Speaker 3: the quarterback.
Speaker 4: I don't know this coach.
Speaker 3: I don't know this gym that I would have remembered anybody,
Speaker 3: a former player or a player get into the face
Speaker 3: of a coach because those days never happened. And I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if and Il has created this monster or whatever,
Speaker 3: but you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I see the coach going into the face of the
Speaker 3: quarterback or whomever because he's out teaching or yelling whatever
Speaker 3: whatever the discussion was, and then the play for another
Speaker 3: player get into the face of a coach.
Speaker 4: I don't remember seeing that. I do not.
Speaker 5: That happens a lot more now than it ever did before.
Speaker 5: And I think the majority of that was when I
Speaker 5: was playing ball in the seven he's an early eighties
Speaker 5: coach would punch you.
Speaker 4: Sure, they couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: They haven't done it for a long time. And it
Speaker 2: was that.
Speaker 4: Frank Cush, the Woody the Woody, right.
Speaker 2: I mean those old school coaches.
Speaker 5: A lot of people say to me, now, you know,
Speaker 5: who'd you model your coaching style? After I said I
Speaker 5: did everything my high school did, coach did the opposite. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they punch in the ribs, They pulled you by your
Speaker 5: face mask, they twisted your head, and whether it's a
Speaker 5: mistake or not, you know, you miss a play, you
Speaker 5: miss this. It was always there was always that retribution
Speaker 5: coming back. And you, just as physical a person as
Speaker 5: I am, you just you can't do that. So I
Speaker 5: also think that, you know, society has come a long way,
Speaker 5: you should do that.
Speaker 2: Involved shouldn't be doing that to kids.
Speaker 5: I think that that frees up a little bit more
Speaker 5: of that. But then again, you see it happening in classrooms.
Speaker 5: You haven't seen it with police officers. Just in general,
Speaker 5: kids don't talk to their parents the.
Speaker 2: Way they should.
Speaker 5: All the time now, So it's just it's just society
Speaker 5: as a whole.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm not that I'm concerned about it whatever.
Speaker 3: I just don't remember ever that happening. And when you're
Speaker 3: and I've said this with a number of coaches, Jim,
Speaker 3: if you're getting paid one hundred and fifty two hundred
Speaker 3: half a million dollars now with an IL, who do
Speaker 3: you listen to?
Speaker 4: Do you really have to coach? I got my money,
Speaker 4: So what are you gonna tell me? I'm good?
Speaker 2: You're right?
Speaker 5: These kids, there are some players that are never gonna
Speaker 5: get drafted, who they believe are gonna get drafted right,
Speaker 5: and they're making half.
Speaker 2: A million, a million or more a year.
Speaker 5: That kid walks out the door without ever stepping on
Speaker 5: an NFL practice facility.
Speaker 2: He's already got three million dollars.
Speaker 5: So the only person he should listen to then, I
Speaker 5: guess is his financial advisor, because I mean, there's no incentive.
Speaker 5: There's no incentive. And you know, I've I've never been
Speaker 5: a proponent. I don't think I'll ever be a proponent
Speaker 5: of ni L's. I'm not against guys getting something right
Speaker 5: for doing this, but I just I think it's gone insane.
Speaker 3: Sure, shoot, and you and I've talked to the Kendres,
Speaker 3: the Lopuses, the the Rubios, all these guys, and they're
Speaker 3: happy to be out because they got out at the
Speaker 3: right time.
Speaker 2: You bet.
Speaker 5: People say to me all the time, you know, don't
Speaker 5: you wish he was still coaching. I said, no, God
Speaker 5: knows what he's doing. He got me out at the
Speaker 5: right time.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, I've talked to you guys too, were your
Speaker 3: former guys, and they say, eventually it's gonna trickle down
Speaker 3: to the JC.
Speaker 2: It is already.
Speaker 5: It is already, and it's trickled down to high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, if god, that's just that's insane.
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you, because we got about
Speaker 3: a minute or two. Uh So, if it's trickled down
Speaker 3: to high school, what's the importance of sports in today's world?
Speaker 4: I played it, I loved it. I still watch it
Speaker 4: and enjoy it.
Speaker 3: But if it's at that level, what's the importance of
Speaker 3: it when you're making when kids are making X amount
Speaker 3: of money.
Speaker 2: You know, my legs are terrible.
Speaker 5: My knees have been shot for thirty years, and that's
Speaker 5: one of the reasons after twenty one years. I had
Speaker 5: to retire as a police officer. But my wife has
Speaker 5: save me all the time. Don't you regret? Don't you
Speaker 5: regret doing that? And I said, no, you know what
Speaker 5: it taught me to do. Never laid down, keep going forward,
Speaker 5: keep moving you can still move forward. It teaches you
Speaker 5: some responsibility. It builds character. These kids today, I don't
Speaker 5: believe that's what they're in it for anymore. You know,
Speaker 5: they're in it for whether their parents are pushing them hard,
Speaker 5: whether they think and that's what I believe Nil has done. Right,
Speaker 5: when you were a kid, you always wanted to be
Speaker 5: a pro football player, a pro baseball player, so and
Speaker 5: so I'd like to be him and that, but this
Speaker 5: is what you're going to do. And now they just
Speaker 5: want to try to get to college so they can
Speaker 5: make money. And you're talking about millions of high school players,
Speaker 5: and what's that percentage that move on and play college
Speaker 5: ball less than a percent, So you're talking about putting
Speaker 5: ninety nine percent of these kids that are trying to
Speaker 5: do that, and whether their parents are pushing pushing them hard,
Speaker 5: or whether they're in it because they weren't good or
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's hard. I think there's a
Speaker 5: lot of life lessons that are lost. Yeah, now right, yeah, Hey,
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we ne me too, how about now?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I got you?
Speaker 3: Okay, so we should be on the except that we
Speaker 3: don't have we're not on the air, and I can't
Speaker 3: tell you, but here we go. I'm not sure why
Speaker 3: it's not working. But how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Coach?
Speaker 6: Doing well?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: You're you have a big game today this weekend. Right,
Speaker 3: we're on with coach Ryan. Right, your guys, your guys right?
Speaker 2: How you doing? Brother?
Speaker 14: Doing well?
Speaker 4: Coach?
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great?
Speaker 4: Man? How long have you guys known each other?
Speaker 5: About fifteen minutes? Goes all the way back when I
Speaker 5: was coaching at Sooro back in the and you were
Speaker 5: at CDO back in the in the nineties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the late nineties, early two thousands.
Speaker 3: Who learned from whom I learned from him?
Speaker 15: Well?
Speaker 6: I think we probably learned from each other. You know.
Speaker 15: It's funny because he always says, you know that he
Speaker 15: coached for me, but we coached together, and obviously I
Speaker 15: coached for him, and then he did he coached for me,
Speaker 15: because even when he was the head coach, he was
Speaker 15: the d line coach. So but yeah, there's no doubt
Speaker 15: I've I've I've picked up a lot of what he
Speaker 15: did as a head coach and and uh, you know
Speaker 15: in my first year here at sou Point and you
Speaker 15: know it's, uh, he's been a great mentor to me.
Speaker 3: So you've done a great job there, you're and you're
Speaker 3: continuing the job.
Speaker 4: What's been the secret sauce?
Speaker 15: Well, you know, at some point, I don't think there
Speaker 15: really is any secret sauce other than we have really
Speaker 15: good kids here, and we have a great administration and
Speaker 15: athletic department and a lot of really supportive people, and
Speaker 15: you know, we have a we have a strength program
Speaker 15: here that's just you know, done done wonders for us,
Speaker 15: I think as a program over the years, and so
Speaker 15: you know, there was a great foundation here, uh you know,
Speaker 15: going back to you know, probably Pat Welkert way back
Speaker 15: and then uh, you know, obviously Dennis was here for
Speaker 15: about twenty years and then Eric the last four years.
Speaker 6: So uh, you know, this pro has been stable for.
Speaker 15: A long time and and uh, you know that's that's
Speaker 15: kind of my task is just to kind of carry on.
Speaker 3: When you got the job, you know a few months ago,
Speaker 3: what did you think, you know, you would hit the
Speaker 3: hit the lottery for you personally or what were you thinking?
Speaker 15: No, you know, I wouldn't say the lottery. It's you know,
Speaker 15: I was here for four years and and uh, you
Speaker 15: know when when the change occurred, Uh, you know, it
Speaker 15: wasn't something that I jumped at right away. It was
Speaker 15: something that uh, you know, I I had a lot
Speaker 15: of thought went into it, and uh you know, obviously
Speaker 15: discussions with my wife and uh you know, some of
Speaker 15: the other coaches and and uh but you know, I
Speaker 15: think this there's just a lot of pieces in place
Speaker 15: here that that allow you to be successful.
Speaker 6: And so you know, obviously it's a it's a great job.
Speaker 15: We have great kids and and uh so you know
Speaker 15: I decided to throw my name in.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 14: Rise.
Speaker 2: I gotta ask you, is it all it's cracked up
Speaker 2: to be? Doing work?
Speaker 6: Is it all cracked up to be?
Speaker 15: What?
Speaker 5: All that admin work? Don't you enjoy it? Dealing with parents?
Speaker 5: You know, grades, teachers.
Speaker 15: Uh you know, it hasn't been as bad as you know,
Speaker 15: what what what I was told to prepare for, but uh,
Speaker 15: you know, the there's lots of times where I just
Speaker 15: sit back and go.
Speaker 6: Man, it'd be nice if I could just coach football.
Speaker 15: Am the the obviously, you know, as coaches, we get
Speaker 15: into it for the the x's and no's and the
Speaker 15: teaching on the field and and uh so that's kind
Speaker 15: of I haven't been able to do quite as much
Speaker 15: of that as I would like to, But I'm hoping,
Speaker 15: you know, down the road wants you know, everything's in place,
Speaker 15: and you know, as as time goes on, I can
Speaker 15: do a little bit more of that.
Speaker 2: You know, let me ask you.
Speaker 5: You've got the big game this week in against a
Speaker 5: team that's used to be very very tough kids, but
Speaker 5: this year pretty big, pretty strong. Uh what's your big Uh?
Speaker 5: What's your big preparation for this week?
Speaker 15: You know they're they're you know you said that, you know,
Speaker 15: you know Mason Mountain View, I mean everybody knows that.
Speaker 15: You know, way back they were, you know, obviously probably
Speaker 15: one of the top teams, if not the top team
Speaker 15: year in the year out in Arizona. And and they've
Speaker 15: still got good kids. And I think, you know, coach
Speaker 15: Linton has done a great job just in his first
Speaker 15: year there, and he's really the culture there, I think,
Speaker 15: and they've got a lot of kids out.
Speaker 6: They they've got a big team.
Speaker 15: They're uh, you know, everybody says, oh, there's kind of
Speaker 15: those typical Mountain View kids and and you know a
Speaker 15: lot of a lot of five ten, one hundred and
Speaker 15: eighty five pound kids that are really good athletes.
Speaker 6: Not real flashy, but they're really really.
Speaker 15: Good on both sides of the ball and and physical
Speaker 15: and don't make a lot of mistakes. And so, you know,
Speaker 15: our preparation, though, is just really kind of just taking
Speaker 15: care of ourselves.
Speaker 6: And obviously last week we struggled a little bit.
Speaker 15: I think, you know, our kids probably were being told
Speaker 15: a little too much how good they were after beating Brokey,
Speaker 15: you know, and so you know, I think we just
Speaker 15: got to take care of ourselves and do what we do.
Speaker 15: And I think as long as we can do that
Speaker 15: and take care of the football and not commit a
Speaker 15: bunch of stupid penalties, I think will be okay.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things that I love about the sport,
Speaker 3: because you could be as good an athlete as you
Speaker 3: are and still suffer from the the six inches between
Speaker 3: your brain and you know, the six inches, and it
Speaker 3: suffers at the high school level too, because I think
Speaker 3: that that people start believing what people are telling them.
Speaker 3: They're the best things in slice spread blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: How do you guys try to come back that? Because
Speaker 3: success begets success, But then you have too much of it,
Speaker 3: You're thinking, Okay, guys, temperate, temperate.
Speaker 5: I'll let you answer it, rites because I can't say
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff on the year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's it's hard. You know, you're dealing
Speaker 6: with you know.
Speaker 15: Fifteen, yeah, sixteen, seventeen year old kids, you know, and
Speaker 15: you know a lot of what they a lot of
Speaker 15: what you tell them goes in one.
Speaker 6: Ear and not the other. So you know, they have
Speaker 6: to experience that.
Speaker 15: And I think once they experience it, they then they
Speaker 15: learned from it really fast. And so I'm looking forward
Speaker 15: to seeing, you know, how we come out on Friday,
Speaker 15: because you know, they experienced it last Friday, so you know,
Speaker 15: I know they don't want to play like they did
Speaker 15: again for you know, about two and a half quarters
Speaker 15: and but so you know, we'll see. It's last week.
Speaker 15: I think was a great learning experience for him.
Speaker 3: So so you have this team that's obviously pretty darn good.
Speaker 3: Are you the team that beat Brophy like you did
Speaker 3: or or last week probably somewhere in the middle, you know.
Speaker 3: And what made you that good team against Brophy?
Speaker 15: Well, you know, I think we just come out and
Speaker 15: we you know, we were fundamentally sound.
Speaker 6: For one.
Speaker 15: Uh you know, like I said, we took care of
Speaker 15: the football. Our offensive line right now is playing really
Speaker 15: really well, and it's you know, allowed us to run
Speaker 15: the ball with some consistency and then you know, opens
Speaker 15: up the passing game for you a little bit.
Speaker 6: And and so you know.
Speaker 15: The Brophy game was a was a team effort and
Speaker 15: our kids just came out and you know, it was homecoming,
Speaker 15: which you know, we had a huge crowd here and
Speaker 15: and a lot of old Lancers were back to watch
Speaker 15: our guys play.
Speaker 6: And I know our kids didn't want to disappoint, so.
Speaker 15: You know, it was a huge game and kids really
Speaker 15: stepped up. And uh, you know last week and again
Speaker 15: I think it was just more of a you know,
Speaker 15: they they had just a little bit of a letdown,
Speaker 15: which you know sometimes happens after those big wins.
Speaker 3: And you're able to survive, which makes it even better,
Speaker 3: right and man, maybe more teaching moments too.
Speaker 4: I'm just assuming.
Speaker 15: That yeah, you know, being able to survive. And this
Speaker 15: team has done that before. We've gone down. We've never
Speaker 15: been down by twenty one points all year, but we've
Speaker 15: been behind and uh, you know, I know Agains Scott
Speaker 15: still Sooro. We got down eight eight nothing, and you know,
Speaker 15: none of our kids flinched, Our coaches didn't flinch.
Speaker 6: You know, we just got to you know, do what we.
Speaker 15: Do and and uh, you know, take care of the
Speaker 15: football and and uh, you know, at some point we're
Speaker 15: gonna we're gonna get it rolling. Well.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll tell you Steve coach writing is a meticulous,
Speaker 5: uh coach, whether it's a position, whether it's as a
Speaker 5: head coach. So there's there's gonna be no way that
Speaker 5: he's going to leave any stone unturned, you know. And
Speaker 5: I think one of the big things that we've learned
Speaker 5: throughout your career is when you have a close game
Speaker 5: and you can win, that's a building block that you
Speaker 5: can tell the kids, Hey, look we've been down before,
Speaker 5: we can come back from this. Pat you guys going
Speaker 5: up super early or are you going to just kind
Speaker 5: of take your time?
Speaker 2: What's what's the game plan for Friday?
Speaker 15: Yeah, we're gonna go up a little bit early. You know,
Speaker 15: it's uh, you know, at the south Point, it's one
Speaker 15: of those deals we don't uh you know, we it's.
Speaker 6: Kind of hard to get our kids out of class.
Speaker 15: So our kids are only going to miss one class
Speaker 15: on Friday, and uh, but we are going to leave
Speaker 15: a little bit early to to you never know what's
Speaker 15: going on with traffic on the Weddy Inning.
Speaker 2: So I figured, being sell Point, you guys might fly.
Speaker 3: Up charter, charter, charter, you know, so tell me coach
Speaker 3: real quick. So you have some you have some guys.
Speaker 3: You must have some guys. Who are your guys?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we we've got guys.
Speaker 15: And then again, that's the nice thing here at South
Speaker 15: Point is we're always going to have players. You know.
Speaker 15: It's it's you know, it's again just going back to
Speaker 15: the tradition here and and the education that kids get
Speaker 15: coming here. So you know, our big players are obviously
Speaker 15: Nate Spivey is our best player.
Speaker 6: He's been in our program for four years now. He's
Speaker 6: done a great job. Very very talented kid. Uh plays
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball for us, not as much
Speaker 6: offense as he really he.
Speaker 15: I mean, he could start for us anywhere probably offensively,
Speaker 15: and and you know we you know, as coach knows,
Speaker 15: I'm a defensive minded guy, and so he's gonna play
Speaker 15: defense first, and and so that's you know, what he's
Speaker 15: doing for us.
Speaker 6: But you know.
Speaker 15: Him and and Uh Roman Fina, uh left tackle, and
Speaker 15: really all our.
Speaker 6: Offensive linemen have done just a tremendous job.
Speaker 15: And we've got a couple of linebackers, Tom Regina, who
Speaker 15: has really been the hussle of our defense.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, really for two years now. He's he fits
Speaker 6: our scheme so well.
Speaker 15: And Coach Monico knows, you know, our middle linebackers just
Speaker 15: a guy that has to be around the ball, figure
Speaker 15: out how to get there every play and not always perfect,
Speaker 15: but you know, if you can get to the ball,
Speaker 15: you can be a great mic linebacker and our system
Speaker 15: and Tom has done that for us. And and then uh,
Speaker 15: you know another kid defensively, Dinostrosos, who's going to get
Speaker 15: a you know, an opportunity at the next level.
Speaker 6: He's he's a you know, a.
Speaker 15: Big kid for linebacker that's real, real physical and it
Speaker 15: makes a lot of plays for us defensively. So but
Speaker 15: we've got a lot of kids, you know, We've got
Speaker 15: some young kids that you know R J. Gory that
Speaker 15: that took a fifty five yard you know, just a
Speaker 15: short pass and went fifty five yards for a touchdown
Speaker 15: to win the game for US last week. And you
Speaker 15: know he's only a sophomore and he's going to be really,
Speaker 15: really good down the road. And so yeah, we were
Speaker 15: a lot of really good kids.
Speaker 3: I would assuming I've talking to you know, Paton Nugent.
Speaker 4: And and some of the rest of the guys.
Speaker 3: Uh, football in southern Arizona has become pretty good. I mean,
Speaker 3: you've got good kids. You've always said Something's always had
Speaker 3: good kids, veils getting some good kids north Northwest cdo
Speaker 3: all that stuff. How have you seen it kind of
Speaker 3: improve or get better?
Speaker 15: Well, you know, I think one of the things that
Speaker 15: helps is to have some consistency.
Speaker 6: In your coaching staff.
Speaker 15: And I think if you look at a lot of
Speaker 15: the schools here in Tucson, they really struggled keeping a
Speaker 15: coach for you know, longer than a year, right, So
Speaker 15: you know, I know, you know down Tucson High, Zach
Speaker 15: who Zach Nevilith, who was here for a long long
Speaker 15: time and does a great job, and and you know
Speaker 15: he's kind of getting.
Speaker 6: It rolling over there. So that's nice to see.
Speaker 15: And but I think, you know, if you can get
Speaker 15: a guy that's going to stay there and be consistent,
Speaker 15: and you know, I think, you know, you got to
Speaker 15: build a program, as coach knows, it's it takes time.
Speaker 3: Right right, And it's kind of goes back to both ways,
Speaker 3: administration and the coach wants to stay a success all
Speaker 3: that consistency, you know, all that.
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, you know I mentioned that earlier, and you know,
Speaker 15: you you want to be at a place where winning
Speaker 15: is important and doing things the right way is important,
Speaker 15: and and uh, you know, I'm again I knew it
Speaker 15: what South Point was all about before I you know,
Speaker 15: took the head job. So you know, there's, like I said,
Speaker 15: tremendous support here. And you know, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 15: I got a few phone calls after after that first
Speaker 15: game this year we lost the Rana and people are asking.
Speaker 6: Me already they were ready to fire you yet you
Speaker 6: know I said, no, you know, I've had nothing but
Speaker 6: support here. So it's been really.
Speaker 4: Good and it's been good since, right.
Speaker 2: Good, and it matters.
Speaker 5: You know, for our years at Pima, we felt like
Speaker 5: if we weren't putting a great product on the field
Speaker 5: and in the classroom. They were going to cut the
Speaker 5: program anytime. And Edgar's to tell us all the time,
Speaker 5: you guys are saving football. You save in football. It's
Speaker 5: miserable when the administration just leave it at that, doesn't
Speaker 5: care enough about those student athletes.
Speaker 2: And you know, it is a big deal.
Speaker 5: It's a big deal when people want you to succeed
Speaker 5: and give you the tools to do that. And uh
Speaker 5: and like Pat said, you know it's it's it's a
Speaker 5: blessing to be place where they actually care enough to
Speaker 5: try to give you what you need to win.
Speaker 4: Well, coach, we appreciate your time, good luck this weekend.
Speaker 6: Thanks, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they go get appreciated, appreciated, appreciate it, Thank you,
Speaker 3: Thank coach. So that was a stut point, coach pat Ryton. Yes, right, good, good,
Speaker 3: good coach. Very successful first year doesn't always happen.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, no, And it's tough to follow in the
Speaker 5: shoes of people who win. You know, it's a if
Speaker 5: you look around the country, people take jobs and somebody
Speaker 5: else steps in and next thing you know, you're not
Speaker 5: having that same success.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball Hero Fox Sports
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Speaker 4: I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 3: In with me today is Jim Monico from PMA College,
Speaker 3: former ad what. Let me ask you a quick question
Speaker 3: because we cover them all the time, or at least
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: What makes a good coach?
Speaker 2: When you find out? Let me know, I honest, I
Speaker 2: couldn't even.
Speaker 3: Tell you that because let me say, you're one you
Speaker 3: you've been a coach forever, You've had two direct or
Speaker 3: how did you what did you do? Say you're the
Speaker 3: athletic director. Do you direct the coaches or you let
Speaker 3: them do?
Speaker 4: What the so?
Speaker 3: What do you do you have cosgrow? Do you have peabody?
Speaker 3: You have all these people, so you say, hey, go
Speaker 3: just don't screw it up?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: You give them the tools to be great? Which would
Speaker 2: be that? So, uh get what what do you need?
Speaker 2: That's the first question? What do you need?
Speaker 5: When I took over my first goal and I said
Speaker 5: it in my interviews and everything else, we're going to
Speaker 5: be a family. We don't have a basketball program and
Speaker 5: a soccer program. We have a pemer athletic program and
Speaker 5: we have these teams within it, and you're gonna support
Speaker 5: each other, just like when we brought the tournament here
Speaker 5: right for the National Championship, all those coaches had their
Speaker 5: players working it. You know, we're going to do things
Speaker 5: to make you as good as you can be. But
Speaker 5: you know we don't have an unlimited supply of money,
Speaker 5: So how do we do it. Let's let's get with
Speaker 5: what you need. Then if we have extra, it's what
Speaker 5: you want. And I did that every year. We were
Speaker 5: just very good. I won't say I'm the smartest guy
Speaker 5: on the planet. I just screw up poor. So you
Speaker 5: know how to do a budget. So we always had
Speaker 5: money at the end of the year and then to
Speaker 5: be like, hey, you want another uniform, you want another
Speaker 5: of this. So my coach has had three and four
Speaker 5: and five uniforms and people are going, how do you
Speaker 5: do that?
Speaker 2: Well, you save money where you can.
Speaker 4: Are you taking a Peter Paul thing that Peter Paul?
Speaker 5: No, because if you rob from Peter to pay Paul,
Speaker 5: you're just screwing somebody somewhere. It was here's what you
Speaker 5: need now. Granted when they walked in and said I
Speaker 5: want a dome and be like Okay, so next, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to get real. But when you're
Speaker 5: managing people in Jim Monico's mentality, Okay, I'm not writing
Speaker 5: a book. So when you're managing people, you have to
Speaker 5: give them some guidelines. But if they're successful and their
Speaker 5: kids are going to class and their GPA is up, right,
Speaker 5: then then you let them go and you just kind
Speaker 5: of just keep an eye on the program and make
Speaker 5: sure things are.
Speaker 3: It's funny because you talked about academics and GPA and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. That's something that we don't talk about
Speaker 3: anymore or much anymore. The kids are playing, they're making money,
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure they're going to classroom whatever. But
Speaker 3: I can't remember doing a story or hearing about a
Speaker 3: kid not doing well in school. Have tutors, right, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. That had to be a big concern for
Speaker 3: you too, especially at that level. Or you need them
Speaker 3: to be eligible and you need them to be going
Speaker 3: to class.
Speaker 5: So as a football program, we always had study hall
Speaker 5: and that was mandatory. What I did when I first
Speaker 5: came in was find any space I could because the
Speaker 5: college took everything we had right even though we still
Speaker 5: had the football program. They needed a classroom, they needed this,
Speaker 5: So we found anyway we could and we had study
Speaker 5: hall to get together and it was mandatory. Part of
Speaker 5: the best thing that happened when I took over and
Speaker 5: with our staff and our coaches and no short order,
Speaker 5: it was because of the success they having. You know,
Speaker 5: our coaches weren't paid as full time employees. They were
Speaker 5: part time employees. They weren't making a living. Are they changed?
Speaker 5: That's changed? Oh, we changed that my second year. We
Speaker 5: got every coach a full time, full time so they
Speaker 5: were actually making a living. That also gave me the
Speaker 5: freedom as an administrator to say, okay, you know you're
Speaker 5: being paid now, and now we're going to do this,
Speaker 5: and nobody complained because they.
Speaker 3: So you're doing that was up? There was a reason, well, of.
Speaker 5: Course, Well, first of all, it was just really unfair.
Speaker 5: There were two coaches that were being paid, uh me
Speaker 5: as a head football coach and I think it was
Speaker 5: Todd wholehouse as as the other one. And nobody else
Speaker 5: was a full time coach, nobody, And so that was
Speaker 5: a big deal. By being able to build that foundation, right, GPA,
Speaker 5: they're working, they're doing this. The college then went and
Speaker 5: said Okay, we need to address this issue. And they
Speaker 5: did that, and so I have to take my hat
Speaker 5: out to him. It took him a long time, but
Speaker 5: it got done. But once that happened, now you have
Speaker 5: that flexibility, you know, not to crack the whip, but
Speaker 5: to say, Okay, things have to change or I have
Speaker 5: to make a change. And I didn't have to do
Speaker 5: that very often. I had the most incredible group of coaches.
Speaker 5: They made me look amazing. And I've said that to
Speaker 5: you guys before, and I'll never not say it because
Speaker 5: it was a truth. They're incredible people and they did
Speaker 5: an amazing job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, And that's probably in and aff
Speaker 3: the classroom because you did have some winning programs, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously the basketball programs, the soccer programs, golf programs under.
Speaker 4: The kids who I forget his name, Marcus Smith, Marcus
Speaker 4: Smith a.
Speaker 5: Track killed it right, volleyball this year, did things they
Speaker 5: have never done.
Speaker 3: So I got here in eighty seven. And I've said
Speaker 3: this to you a number of times when you've been
Speaker 3: on to me. Pima was the sleepy dog, or it
Speaker 3: was the old Pueblo seventy two, you know kind you know,
Speaker 3: no one really Okay, you went in a pass from
Speaker 3: thro It's a past new town.
Speaker 4: Pima was a pastoring school. Now you've kind of made it, made.
Speaker 3: It a destination. And I may be over hyper believe
Speaker 3: or whatever, but it is.
Speaker 5: Don't you think My phrase when I got to Pima
Speaker 5: with coach Scarrin who brought me on in two thousand
Speaker 5: was Pima is not a stepping stone, it's a launching pad.
Speaker 5: And I have said that for the last way to
Speaker 5: look at it, Well, it is.
Speaker 2: You can go anywhere you want. I mean, we had
Speaker 2: soccer players go to Cornell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well the heck takes Ivy League schools don't take you,
Speaker 5: but they do from Pima.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's up to that student.
Speaker 5: And it doesn't matter if you're an athlete or you're
Speaker 5: in the dental hygiene program, you're in pre engineering. You
Speaker 5: get to go wherever you want to go. You make
Speaker 5: the choice because we give you the opportunity. Right, people
Speaker 5: open up doors. Sometimes there are only a crack. It's
Speaker 5: your job to kick them.
Speaker 3: Open right, right, And that's kind of the mentality you
Speaker 3: have to give them when they're here. Take advantage of
Speaker 3: the situation. You bet so you don't have an answer
Speaker 3: for me about making a good coach. I guess we
Speaker 3: all have different traits of what makes it successful.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 5: I for me, it was always about loving my coaches
Speaker 5: and players. I love them, I love them, and when
Speaker 5: when I had to chew them out, I think because
Speaker 5: I I did love my kids and I and I
Speaker 5: told my I mean I told my coaching staff, I
Speaker 5: told the coaches when I was a d I love
Speaker 5: you every day. I love you, coach Ry and just
Speaker 5: got off the phone and wrote back, I love your coach.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: That's to me, that's why people go to war for you,
Speaker 5: no question for you, no question, because they fear you
Speaker 5: because they love you.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: There's different levels of all that, right, And I totally
Speaker 3: agree with you. There was something I wanted to talk
Speaker 3: to you about, and now I just slept. Don't get old,
Speaker 3: so get old.
Speaker 2: I'm already there.
Speaker 3: About about coaching, and I lost it. It'll come back
Speaker 3: to me. Oh oh, I did it open as we have.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we talked about this honor off there.
Speaker 3: I had them on a week or so ago, and
Speaker 3: I just I think the highly of the man. He
Speaker 3: gave me some great stories of how are he recruits
Speaker 3: ones and threes?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Ones are the studs, and you got you know, gotta
Speaker 3: have ones. You gotta have ones. There's two's and there's threes.
Speaker 3: Threes want to be ones. Three want to be ones.
Speaker 3: And they'll do anything for you. They're pretty darn good,
Speaker 3: but they're not ones. But they'll do anything whatever they
Speaker 3: can and make it work and become a one. And
Speaker 3: you don't want twos. We don't want twos because twos
Speaker 3: thinks they're ones and deserve to be ones. They're not
Speaker 3: ones because they screwed things up because they want to
Speaker 3: be ones. And I asked them, so, what's the forest is?
Speaker 3: I never recruited afore, so so tell me what did
Speaker 3: your what was your philosophy and recruiting? Because you had
Speaker 3: it tough. I mean, how do you recruit when they
Speaker 3: don't give you much.
Speaker 5: We didn't have dorms, we didn't have food, we didn't
Speaker 5: have a practice facility, we didn't have anything. And and
Speaker 5: you know, first of all, it is believing in what
Speaker 5: it's selling, right, I mean, if they're not stupid, kids
Speaker 5: aren't stupid, and they know when you come at them,
Speaker 5: you know, i'd have kids.
Speaker 2: Look at me all the time. Ago, Can I have
Speaker 2: number five?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: I thought, I was like your number one recruit? You
Speaker 5: are I can't have number five? No, somebody else has it.
Speaker 5: You might be number eighty seven. Make all the kids
Speaker 5: want to wear eighty seven. If we're worried about number five,
Speaker 5: I'm recruiting the run. Now, how did that fly over?
Speaker 5: I got almost every one of them. They would look
Speaker 5: at me and say, am I going to start for you?
Speaker 5: How do I know you've never played it a minute?
Speaker 5: I said, you know why I'm here because what you've
Speaker 5: done in the past is incredible. Now the boards are raised,
Speaker 5: you've done nothing in college and believe and this is
Speaker 5: exactly how I was. And you can ask any kid
Speaker 5: I ever recruited, because I'm not going to lie to you.
Speaker 5: If you're going to be a star on this team,
Speaker 5: then the minute you get here, you better be in
Speaker 5: the way. You know, my thing was always with the guys.
Speaker 5: If you're not five minutes earlier or late. So if
Speaker 5: you come in right on time, you're late every day
Speaker 5: and there weren't excuses because you got them in the
Speaker 5: rest of your life. You know, you have to teach
Speaker 5: these kids, and that's what I was trying to relate
Speaker 5: points to them. Look at when your son or daughter
Speaker 5: comes back to you and says, I would like to
Speaker 5: do this, and you don't have the money to do it.
Speaker 5: It's your job to go out and get the extra
Speaker 5: hours to pay for that. Yeah, not them, not to
Speaker 5: do it right, find a way that I.
Speaker 4: Don't know enough people know that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows it.
Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people want to believe
Speaker 5: it because it's just it's work, right, a lot of work,
Speaker 5: and that's what life is. You get a lot of
Speaker 5: enjoyment out of your life, but you have to know
Speaker 5: that it's the battles you go through that makes you you.
Speaker 4: Sure sure, and you have to go through those to
Speaker 4: make you.
Speaker 5: You got to taste a whole lot of sour to
Speaker 5: really know what sweet tastes like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, and then welcome to the film
Speaker 3: Donahue show right here. But it's true, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: without the hard times, you don't know what the good
Speaker 3: times feel like. Yeah, and a lot of do you
Speaker 3: know your record off the top of your head.
Speaker 5: No clue. I've never want to get game. I've never
Speaker 5: won a game. The kids have won every game I've lost.
Speaker 3: Their Okay, okay, how we got a couple of minutes, Well,
Speaker 3: we stay a couple of minutes here. So invariably we
Speaker 3: hear coaches saying the pain of loss is much tougher
Speaker 3: than the thrill of a victory.
Speaker 4: Do you believe that? Does it make sense?
Speaker 2: It does make sense. So how do you said that?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll be honest with you, right, and you can
Speaker 5: talk to a couple of kids I coached in high
Speaker 5: school because they were telling a story at my retirement
Speaker 5: party and said, we didn't beat a team bad enough
Speaker 5: one day and coach beat the crap out of us.
Speaker 2: Sad and.
Speaker 5: Absolutely true, because we didn't play to our capabilities. And
Speaker 5: then there are times you've played teams that are just
Speaker 5: you know, oh my, okay.
Speaker 2: When we lost to.
Speaker 5: Arizona Western, it was right after we came off a
Speaker 5: bad loss at Snow. It was just it was just
Speaker 5: a bad, terrible, freezing cold day, and and anyway, kids,
Speaker 5: some of the kids started to fight, and I benched
Speaker 5: nine starters, and I benched them not only from the
Speaker 5: last game in Arizona Western, but also.
Speaker 2: Our bowl game.
Speaker 5: And we lost to Western in about the final, I
Speaker 5: don't know, six seven seconds and as bad as that Hurd,
Speaker 5: I could never have been as proud I had O
Speaker 5: Lineman playing.
Speaker 4: You find stuff.
Speaker 5: If you kids just stepped up, their tongues were dragon
Speaker 5: And yeah, you know that loss, as much as it's stunk,
Speaker 5: because we would have played for the conference title, you
Speaker 5: sat back and went, how much more could I have
Speaker 5: asked from the So you know, yes, to a certain extent,
Speaker 5: it does. But you have to find some areas because
Speaker 5: it's never as bad or as good
Speaker 3: As it looks, and that we're going to end the
Speaker 3: hour and then come back on to the side