WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.200 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:07.919 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. 3 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:10.439 In sure your most prized possessionets. 4 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:20.760 Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here 5 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:24.640 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with 6 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.600 me today is Jim Monico, former ad at PIMA. 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:29.800 How are you. 8 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:31.079 I'm great, Thank you. 9 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.079 Great to see you. I haven't seen you physically in 10 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:33.799 a long time. 11 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:38.520 Yeah, well, lucky you. No, I'm sure that. I'm sure 12 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:40.399 that retirement has been good. 13 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:43.240 It has been good. Think, Yeah, everything's being. 14 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:44.439 Well, great, great. 15 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:45.119 What have you been up here? 16 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:47.399 You've been retired maybe eleven months? 17 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:49.039 Nope. 18 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.000 So it was end of April, so I guess five 19 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:53.799 five six, heading. 20 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.200 In Oh, Okay, so you went to the school year 21 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:56.759 pretty much. 22 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:57.159 You know. 23 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:58.679 They asked me to stay to June. 24 00:00:58.719 --> 00:00:59.679 Oh oh didn't. 25 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:01.640 I had written on the board and I said, you 26 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.680 know what, this is the day I'm leaving. And they're like, 27 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.680 why would you pick April twenty third? I say, because 28 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:08.640 it just matched up with everything. 29 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.879 Because you go to like me right, or I guess 30 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:13.799 after June at the end of the fistal Okay, okay, 31 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:18.680 and have you had an itch? No, you probably won't. 32 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:20.439 You probably won't have an itch to come back. 33 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:26.280 You know, as of right now, I've just forty three years. 34 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.680 There's a lot of well yeah, and you know, I'm 35 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:34.359 having a great time. I'm really really trying to play golf, 36 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.359 which is the I mean, I've played golf, but god, 37 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.239 when you really try to play that game, it's it's stupid. 38 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:43.799 Why you frustrate yourself going out? And that's why I 39 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.519 don't play it, because I'd be pissed all. 40 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.840 The time, and that's what I get yelled at. Yeah, 41 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:49.319 you had a great game, No I didn't. 42 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:49.760 You can. 43 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:53.239 It's just that it's that coaching mentality. You're always looking 44 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:56.120 to improve something in that sport. You just can play. 45 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:58.319 So let me ask you, because you are a former 46 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:01.519 coach by a former athlete time ago, Uh, what do 47 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.200 you got the juices going to keep that flow of 48 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:05.079 being a competitor. 49 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:06.319 I don't know why you had to say a long 50 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:06.760 time ago. 51 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:10.159 Well, because we're both old, we're both you're right, Yes, 52 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.280 So you know you shoot pool, you play paint? 53 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:13.240 What do you what do I do? 54 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:14.280 I play a lot of golf. 55 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.159 Oh so, that's true. 56 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.159 It is, it is, and I work, I hit so 57 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:21.080 many golf balls and they're telling me you need to 58 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.240 slow down, you shouldn't hit so much. But it's just 59 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.479 that stupid grind mentality. Yeah, but you know, I don't know. 60 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.960 We'll see, we'll see if if after a year or so, 61 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.599 I want to get back and doing some coaching. 62 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.319 Right, right, And you'll probably want to. Yeah, but you 63 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.280 also probably don't want that frustration either. 64 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.039 You know what really kills you now and you can 65 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.439 and you know, as you get older, I don't want 66 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.919 to be doing them two and three hour bus. 67 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.000 Oh yeah, well see, and you're different because those bus 68 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:51.039 rides do take. 69 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.120 It till oh your body's beat up from playing and 70 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:56.319 coaching and everything else, and you're just getting older and 71 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:57.240 sitting on a bus. 72 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:59.240 I would I would venture to guess, though, how many 73 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:03.280 kids on a team high school or college college which 74 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:03.759 you were doing. 75 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:05.919 I guess most used to keep about one hundred and twenty. 76 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.599 Well, see, there's my problem that I would think there 77 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:10.400 would be your problem, or maybe not. 78 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:12.680 Oh you have one hundred and twenty kids. 79 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:15.159 You don't want to saying you have one hundred and 80 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.599 twenty kids and you hope against hope that they don't 81 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.280 get in trouble, that they're healthy, that they're happy, and 82 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.800 you know, out of one hundred and twenty kids, there 83 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:27.240 could be an issue there. 84 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.319 There will be an issue there. There's always an issue. 85 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:33.520 You know, when you have one hundred and twenty young 86 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:38.000 men between the ages of eighteen and twenty one twenty two, 87 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.360 it gets difficult because they're in that in between stage 88 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.919 and they're not kids, and they're and if you consider 89 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.159 them kids, they're very big or faster, strong kids, and 90 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.439 sometimes they do just get themselves in a bad position 91 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.599 and you do the best you can, but you have 92 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.439 to be reliable enough that you take responsibility and you 93 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.000 handle your business the right way. 94 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:01.639 Yeah, yeah, no question. 95 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.000 And I'm sure, uh not that we can get it 96 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.280 all crazy with this, but I'm sure that sometimes it 97 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:08.159 kept you up at night, you know, after big wins. 98 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.319 That's a tough losses. And you've gone through years of 99 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:16.040 it too. Yeah, that's mild that's that's putting it years 100 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.319 of it. That's putting it mildly. Yeah, you're up a lot. 101 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:23.319 And you know, my wife always held uh you know, 102 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.079 he held my nose to the Grindstone on that fact, 103 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.240 because when you recruit a kid, yeah, you bring them 104 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.240 here from Hawaii or just Phoenix. You know, you're telling 105 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.560 that parent listen, I'm here, you know, and when that 106 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:39.079 person calls you, they're very sick or something happened, and 107 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.879 it's two o'clock in the morning. You know, she'd look 108 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.600 at me and I'd be getting up slowly, but she said, 109 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.560 you know you have to go. You promised, And I said, 110 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.800 you're right. I did, and and and you know, I 111 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.319 was just blessed to have amazing coaches that worked with me, 112 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:54.480 that that felt the same way, that took that same 113 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:56.160 responsibility for their positions. 114 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:59.600 What's that. What's the thing you don't miss the most? 115 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.199 The administrative work. 116 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.959 Yeah, and that's what you did. It's terrible in your 117 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:05.879 final six six years. 118 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.759 Yeah, you know, but see that is your job then, right, 119 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:11.639 you can you can live with that because you take 120 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.439 that position at your job. But when you're the head coach, 121 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.600 and especially at a college, you know, you don't coach, 122 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.519 you you do everything else. You're making sure schedules are right, 123 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:26.160 and professors are calling you, and and and counselors are 124 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.680 calling you, and the kids are calling you, and then 125 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.120 you have to go to a meeting with this one 126 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.439 and meet with your AD and be at the business office. 127 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.759 And but that's why when people say to me, why 128 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.079 aren't you a coordinator? You know in high school you 129 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:40.000 always coordinate a defense or offense or whatever it's it, 130 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.199 because I just want to coach. 131 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.279 Yeah, well, let me say you were there for six years. 132 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.519 You jumped in after the football program went down, right right? 133 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:51.360 Uh So at some point did you say, God, do 134 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:52.240 I miss football? 135 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:53.439 What the hell am I doing in this? 136 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.160 You know, I'll be dead serious with you. I was 137 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:57.759 really kind of in my wheelhouse. 138 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.879 Oh okay, so you it was it was you didn't 139 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:04.920 like that type of stuff, but you liked. 140 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.399 The B and the A D being the you know 141 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:11.680 Kenny Hockemy, who's doing an amazing Kenny's doing an amazing job. 142 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:16.160 And when when Edgar left it in good shape, we 143 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:18.839 worked really hard to take it even in better shape. Right, 144 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.959 the GPAs were high. We got things done, we got sponsorships, 145 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:24.480 we got this, that and the other thing. Kenny Hockemy 146 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.279 has that that name locally that he can continue to 147 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:31.199 get that done. But he's a very analytical guy. So 148 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.480 where I wasn't. I was more than people guy. I 149 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.519 was in the public and talking whatever. Ken can still 150 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.560 do that, but he's very, very bright, and he's doing 151 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:42.319 a lot of great things at the college right now, 152 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:44.720 and he's continuing to improve on the great things we did. 153 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:45.399 Yeah, one of the. 154 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.519 Things that I don't think people know enough, and maybe 155 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.959 that's just my philosophy, that the world is a people 156 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:55.800 personal place that if you don't have that people's skill 157 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.279 trait or whatever, it's hard to succeed on it. And 158 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.879 you have it, you know, you just said you had it, 159 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:05.680 and people know when people have it. 160 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:07.560 Do you agree? Disagree? 161 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:12.480 I agree completely, I think maybe because that's my strong suit. 162 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:14.839 But it's important. It's important. 163 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:15.439 You know. 164 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.560 I had an old boss, Bruce Moses, who is here, 165 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.439 and I was kind of that guy that was our 166 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:23.319 you know that screw him, We're going to do it 167 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.000 our way. And he's like, oh, you know, you really 168 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.279 need to make friends. And I got enough friends, but you. 169 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:29.879 Don't have enough. 170 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.160 You realize you need friends, that's right. 171 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:36.720 And the more I got into you know, just not 172 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.560 being I guess a brace of with those that that 173 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.600 you didn't want to really deal with and started to 174 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.639 deal with him. You found that, you know what they 175 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.000 actually said, you know, he's likable, this and and I 176 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:50.800 got a lot more done. 177 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:51.240 Let's put it. 178 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:52.839 So, let me ask you, because we've talked about this 179 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:54.639 before when you were a guest a time or two. 180 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:56.879 You're from the East Coast. How did I know? 181 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.839 Well, I'm sure that so the East coast New Jersey 182 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:05.959 is I'm sorry, New York Ish where bos Oh? Yeah, sorry, 183 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:07.920 I apologize. I'm gonna have to go to confession. What 184 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.680 I'm thinking now, that's that's fine. And I might have 185 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.079 to hope you go to confessions because I need you here. Okay, 186 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:19.360 So you're in Boston. Uh, it's a different mentality out here. 187 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:19.879 It is. 188 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.040 It absolutely is, and you had to change it kind. 189 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:28.839 Of, you know, honestly, it was it was more people 190 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.160 would come up and say, you know, you're not a jerk, 191 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.799 and I'm like, why why am I jerk? 192 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.720 Well? 193 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.519 You're loud and and this, and and I'm like, guys, 194 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:42.440 I'll give you the shirt off my back. I just 195 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.720 that's just me. You know, God didn't give me a 196 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:49.360 whisper gene. I'm loud. I guess it sounds abrasive and 197 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.759 that's just me. But when when people and and you know, 198 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.559 that was probably my best attribute in coaching was I 199 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.960 had a player once come to me and he knocks 200 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:00.799 on my door and he's like, coach, can I talk 201 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:01.320 to you a minute? 202 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:01.799 Yeah? 203 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:03.519 And he was a D line kid from me and 204 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.159 I won't say his name, but he's he's still local. Uh, 205 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.639 he's coaching up in Phoenix, played at Memphis. Heck of 206 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:09.279 a ballplayer. 207 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.279 We could we can deduce, We'll deduce from all that. 208 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:12.679 And he walks in. 209 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.480 He says, can I ask you a personal question? He said, absolutely, buddy. 210 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.360 He goes, how do you take us out on the 211 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:22.080 field and when everybody else is just kind of warming up, 212 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:23.120 you're beating the. 213 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:24.120 Crap out of us? 214 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.559 And then you hard on practice and then you keep 215 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.120 us extra and we work more. 216 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:30.960 And then we walk in the office and you're like, 217 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:32.440 hug us and tell you say you love. 218 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:37.279 Us, And he goes, are you by poor? And I went, 219 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.759 I don't think, But I said, that's the difference between 220 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.120 those white lines. I need you to be a different 221 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.240 human being than you are to the rest of the world. 222 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.240 That's so funny because I wanted one of the reasons 223 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:48.600 I wanted to bring you in is because you have 224 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:53.120 that experience. You were a former police officer, turn coach 225 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:54.840 football and other sports. 226 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.759 Or just yeah, no, I coached. I actually coached high 227 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.799 school baseball and football. Okay, majority I. 228 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:01.960 Don't if you saw clip over the weekend, it was 229 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:02.960 with the LSU coach. 230 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:03.679 I think it was. 231 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:05.879 When he was getting on his player, yeah, quarterback, yeah. 232 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:08.879 And then and then he was getting on him. And 233 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.480 on TV you see everything, right, so you saw it 234 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.080 yell and adam or getting into him, and then I 235 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:16.879 guess later another player got into it with him with 236 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:17.519 the quarterback. 237 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:19.919 I don't know this coach. 238 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.279 I don't know this gym that I would have remembered anybody, 239 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:25.919 a former player or a player get into the face 240 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:30.720 of a coach because those days never happened. And I'm 241 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.919 not sure if and Il has created this monster or whatever, 242 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:34.720 but you. 243 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:35.399 Know what I'm saying. 244 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.799 I see the coach going into the face of the 245 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:42.039 quarterback or whomever because he's out teaching or yelling whatever 246 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:45.720 whatever the discussion was, and then the play for another 247 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:47.200 player get into the face of a coach. 248 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:49.559 I don't remember seeing that. I do not. 249 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.440 That happens a lot more now than it ever did before. 250 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.440 And I think the majority of that was when I 251 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:00.919 was playing ball in the seven he's an early eighties 252 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:04.799 coach would punch you. 253 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:06.000 Sure, they couldn't do it. 254 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:08.679 They haven't done it for a long time. And it 255 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:08.960 was that. 256 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:13.240 Frank Cush, the Woody the Woody, right. 257 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.120 I mean those old school coaches. 258 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.039 A lot of people say to me, now, you know, 259 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.559 who'd you model your coaching style? After I said I 260 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.000 did everything my high school did, coach did the opposite. Yeah, 261 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.840 they punch in the ribs, They pulled you by your 262 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.759 face mask, they twisted your head, and whether it's a 263 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:34.759 mistake or not, you know, you miss a play, you 264 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:38.360 miss this. It was always there was always that retribution 265 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:42.840 coming back. And you, just as physical a person as 266 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.159 I am, you just you can't do that. So I 267 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:49.559 also think that, you know, society has come a long way, 268 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:50.240 you should do that. 269 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.080 Involved shouldn't be doing that to kids. 270 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.840 I think that that frees up a little bit more 271 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.159 of that. But then again, you see it happening in classrooms. 272 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.360 You haven't seen it with police officers. Just in general, 273 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.399 kids don't talk to their parents the. 274 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:04.960 Way they should. 275 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:08.600 All the time now, So it's just it's just society 276 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:09.360 as a whole. 277 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:09.799 Now. 278 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:13.120 Yeah, No, I'm not that I'm concerned about it whatever. 279 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.200 I just don't remember ever that happening. And when you're 280 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.039 and I've said this with a number of coaches, Jim, 281 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.159 if you're getting paid one hundred and fifty two hundred 282 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.759 half a million dollars now with an IL, who do 283 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:25.399 you listen to? 284 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.519 Do you really have to coach? I got my money, 285 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:30.000 So what are you gonna tell me? I'm good? 286 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:30.919 You're right? 287 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.279 These kids, there are some players that are never gonna 288 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.679 get drafted, who they believe are gonna get drafted right, 289 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.240 and they're making half. 290 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.159 A million, a million or more a year. 291 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:42.759 That kid walks out the door without ever stepping on 292 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.399 an NFL practice facility. 293 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:47.080 He's already got three million dollars. 294 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.200 So the only person he should listen to then, I 295 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.559 guess is his financial advisor, because I mean, there's no incentive. 296 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.240 There's no incentive. And you know, I've I've never been 297 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:01.759 a proponent. I don't think I'll ever be a proponent 298 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:06.679 of ni L's. I'm not against guys getting something right 299 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.480 for doing this, but I just I think it's gone insane. 300 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.279 Sure, shoot, and you and I've talked to the Kendres, 301 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:16.480 the Lopuses, the the Rubios, all these guys, and they're 302 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.039 happy to be out because they got out at the 303 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:18.480 right time. 304 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:19.000 You bet. 305 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:20.759 People say to me all the time, you know, don't 306 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.360 you wish he was still coaching. I said, no, God 307 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.879 knows what he's doing. He got me out at the 308 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:25.279 right time. 309 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.159 Right. Well, I've talked to you guys too, were your 310 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.240 former guys, and they say, eventually it's gonna trickle down 311 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:32.639 to the JC. 312 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:33.600 It is already. 313 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.320 It is already, and it's trickled down to high school. 314 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:42.159 Yeah. So I mean, if god, that's just that's insane. 315 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:44.799 Let me let me ask you, because we got about 316 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:46.919 a minute or two. Uh So, if it's trickled down 317 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:51.080 to high school, what's the importance of sports in today's world? 318 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.120 I played it, I loved it. I still watch it 319 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:55.000 and enjoy it. 320 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.799 But if it's at that level, what's the importance of 321 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.320 it when you're making when kids are making X amount 322 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:03.039 of money. 323 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:06.440 You know, my legs are terrible. 324 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.279 My knees have been shot for thirty years, and that's 325 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.440 one of the reasons after twenty one years. I had 326 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.840 to retire as a police officer. But my wife has 327 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:17.480 save me all the time. Don't you regret? Don't you 328 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.039 regret doing that? And I said, no, you know what 329 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:22.480 it taught me to do. Never laid down, keep going forward, 330 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.960 keep moving you can still move forward. It teaches you 331 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:31.679 some responsibility. It builds character. These kids today, I don't 332 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:34.240 believe that's what they're in it for anymore. You know, 333 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.279 they're in it for whether their parents are pushing them hard, 334 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.919 whether they think and that's what I believe Nil has done. Right, 335 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:43.399 when you were a kid, you always wanted to be 336 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:45.960 a pro football player, a pro baseball player, so and 337 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.679 so I'd like to be him and that, but this 338 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.360 is what you're going to do. And now they just 339 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.039 want to try to get to college so they can 340 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.039 make money. And you're talking about millions of high school players, 341 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:59.200 and what's that percentage that move on and play college 342 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:03.440 ball less than a percent, So you're talking about putting 343 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:06.679 ninety nine percent of these kids that are trying to 344 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.679 do that, and whether their parents are pushing pushing them hard, 345 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.159 or whether they're in it because they weren't good or 346 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:15.600 you know, I think it's hard. I think there's a 347 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:19.799 lot of life lessons that are lost. Yeah, now right, yeah, Hey, 348 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.120 we've got to go to commercial. 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