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<v Speaker 1>I am pleased as punch to have the member of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress from the Oh geez, Jeff, what districtor are you fifth? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth congressional district. He's Representative Jeff Crank, who I completely

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<v Speaker 1>smeared his good name this morning on my blog by

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<v Speaker 1>saying he did something when in reality it was the

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<v Speaker 1>other representative, Jeff from Colorado. Jeff heard, I've got Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Crank with me today and Representative Jeff Crank. It's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that one of you is going to have to change

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<v Speaker 1>your name because they are two confusing the idiots like

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<v Speaker 1>me who confuse a kind of important vote. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to that in just a moment. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well thanks for having me, Mandy. I always enjoy being

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<v Speaker 2>on with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I appreciate you taking the time to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with what I initially reached out many many.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like a lifetime ago, but it was September second.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and looked at the date today.

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<v Speaker 1>September second, Space Command is being moved to Alabama. I

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<v Speaker 1>reach out and said, let's get you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's the first day that we could get you on.

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<v Speaker 1>But Holy crap, it's like a lifetime has happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the last two weeks. But let's start with Space Command.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any chance to salvage this for Colorado Springs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I think there is, and I'm working to

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<v Speaker 2>try and fight that decision. Actually, all of the members

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<v Speaker 2>of the delegation, Democrats and Republicans, signed a statement the

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<v Speaker 2>day that had happened that we are opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the wrong thing to do from a national security perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're fighting the decisions and I'm working with our

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<v Speaker 2>senators to help do that as well. There are some,

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<v Speaker 2>though on the left, who who think that fighting this

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<v Speaker 2>decision is attacking Donald Trump. Right. It isn't right, because

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and the Trump administration make the decision about

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<v Speaker 2>what roles and missions might come to Colorado. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I have been working hard with the administration to find

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<v Speaker 2>some things to come to Colorado that would expand missions

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<v Speaker 2>beyond Space Command. And there's lots of things, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>had really good discussions with them. I'm very confident that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get more things coming to Colorado. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in this decision to move Space Command changes the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that fifty percent of US Space Force is actually located

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. It's going to remain in Colorado. Fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the Space Force and growing will be in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And so people confuse sometimes the difference between Space Force

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<v Speaker 2>and Space Command. Obviously, we're disappointed in the decision. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong decision. We're going to fight it. But as

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<v Speaker 2>equally important is the fact that we're just going to

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<v Speaker 2>work hard to bring more missions, roles and missions to Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>and specifically to Colorado Springs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean not to disparage what you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>that as sounds a little like we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a consolation prize, like we're going to get other things

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<v Speaker 1>to make up for the loss of talent or the

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<v Speaker 1>other things that will be peeled off by the loss

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<v Speaker 1>of Space Command.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that President Trump said in his

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<v Speaker 1>comments announcing the change was that when I heard from

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<v Speaker 1>the Alabama delegation, everybody all the time, they didn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about anything else but moving Space Command. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they just got to jump on us because they

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<v Speaker 1>tend to all align with the same political party. Did

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<v Speaker 1>it make it easier for them to do a full

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<v Speaker 1>court press than our situation. And I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 1>to say anything bad about your Democratic colleagues at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but dealing with someone from your own party is a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a lot easier than dealing with someone from

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<v Speaker 1>the other party.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the Alabama delegation has been working this

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<v Speaker 2>for many years. Keep in mind, I mean I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a member of Congress for nine months, right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>got sworn in nine months ago. The decision to move

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<v Speaker 2>Space Command was made by President Trump in his first

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<v Speaker 2>term at the in twenty twenty one. In January of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one. I wasn't a member of Congress, wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even thinking about running for Congress back then. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of history that's been, you know, been behind

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<v Speaker 2>us on this decision. So what I was left with

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<v Speaker 2>when I arrived on January third of this year was really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what do we do? How do we fight

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<v Speaker 2>this decision? And we fought it not from a political standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>but from a military one that it just doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>sense from a military standpoint to move Space Command. But

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<v Speaker 2>I would say this, the pie is so much bigger today.

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<v Speaker 2>And you talked about maybe a consolation prize. I would

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<v Speaker 2>just say I don't think that's the case. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a pretty major realignment of our military,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly when it comes to space, over the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years. As I said, we're going to the space

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<v Speaker 2>force in Colorado will continue to grow. But the high

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<v Speaker 2>is so much bigger today than it was those many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago when the decision was first made. We just

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<v Speaker 2>added Golden Dome. Golden Dome. We just put twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars Congress approved for the first year of Golden Dome.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Golden Dome's going to be hundreds of billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars that's going to be spent. Much of that

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<v Speaker 2>money will be coming to Colorado. So I would just

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<v Speaker 2>say that what's coming to Colorado through Golden Dome and

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<v Speaker 2>through other things is going to dwarf what might be

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<v Speaker 2>lost in Space Command. And by the way, Space Command

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<v Speaker 2>was originally supposed to be about twenty three hundred jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>We've worked with the administration to talk about what the

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<v Speaker 2>impact would be and it'll be about one thousand jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred of those civilian, four hundred military. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a far less impact than it was

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<v Speaker 2>originally going to be when they announced it number one

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<v Speaker 2>and number two. Just with with Golden Dome, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so much more coming here. There's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be more space business in Colorado five years from

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<v Speaker 2>now than there is today, no matter what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of people asking just to be clear here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna answer this question, Mandy, as I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>Space Command has moved, but not Space Force. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Jeff was just saying here, is that Space Force,

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty percent of Space Force is still located in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you about Golden Dome for just a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think this is the Israelis have proved how

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<v Speaker 1>effective a dome defense system is. And you know, Ronald

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan got laughed at when he said we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have this Star Wars missile defense system. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that fifty years later, and yes it has been

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years, it finally looks like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming to fruition. If so much of that is coming

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<v Speaker 1>to Colorado, is that because of our existing commercial infancy structure,

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<v Speaker 1>the companies that are already existing in Colorado springs in

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<v Speaker 1>Denver in those areas that are doing this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>high tech stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It's a lot of that, and much of

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to stay here. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>move to Alabama. Most of it won't move to Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>just because Space Command may move to Alabama. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is both that civilian workforce, but we also have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the military bases here that do so much

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<v Speaker 2>that can't be moved. GPS satellites. All of the GPS

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<v Speaker 2>satellites in the world. Every day when you use your

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<v Speaker 2>phone to navigate you from one place to another, that's

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<v Speaker 2>all controlled on the ground in my congressional district at

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<v Speaker 2>Shriver Air Force Base, that's all done there, Norrad, Cheyenne Mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff that's not going to go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So Northern Command is a unified command and it's still

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<v Speaker 2>headquartered here in Colorado Springs. They're going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>executors of Golden Dome. They're going to decide if something

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<v Speaker 2>If a missile is fired anywhere in the world, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to in a split second, make a decision about

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<v Speaker 2>whether that missile is headed to the United States or not,

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<v Speaker 2>and if it is, how to shoot it down. And

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<v Speaker 2>how to defend the United States. Every decision about that

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<v Speaker 2>in the Command structure will be made right here in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado Springs. Actually, so that's why Colorado is going to

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<v Speaker 2>really benefit from Golden Dome. I formed the Golden Dome

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<v Speaker 2>Caucus in Congress so that we could continue to keep

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado the head of really space in the military.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody just checks it in.

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<v Speaker 1>During the Biden era, Colorado Springs was named the permanent

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<v Speaker 1>home of Space Command. Trump overturned that. Let's not forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>Represent your voters, not Trump. I think that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what he just said, that he's been advocating for this.

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<v Speaker 3>But how do you respond to that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Mandy, look, I mean that's a political question

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<v Speaker 2>by someone who's probably trying to make score a pulit aint.

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<v Speaker 2>I have fought the president on this. I just said

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't agree with the decision. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad decision for national security. I do not support the

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<v Speaker 2>decision to move it. But what's the alternative? Should I

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<v Speaker 2>just attack Donald Trump as a president like many Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>have done. That's counterproductive. To attack the president doesn't help

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<v Speaker 2>us get more missions for the people that I represent.

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<v Speaker 2>So my job as their congressman, and as a representative

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<v Speaker 2>from the state of Colorado is do my best to

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<v Speaker 2>keep as many jobs here as I possibly can. We

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<v Speaker 2>are fighting as best we can to keep the Space

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<v Speaker 2>Command in Colorado. But you know, it's also tough sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when we do have a governor that wants to thumb

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<v Speaker 2>his nose at the Trump administration over immigration, over healthcare,

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<v Speaker 2>over everything. We have US senators that tend to want

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<v Speaker 2>to do that too. Although I will say Governor ben Or,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Senator Bennett has been really helpful in the

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<v Speaker 2>fight here on Space Command. So you know, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado has continually tried to poke the eye of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do that. I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 2>and work to get roles and missions to Colorado. That

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that I agree with the decision. I've said

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<v Speaker 2>from day one that I oppose any move from Space

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<v Speaker 2>Command and I'm going to do everything I can to

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<v Speaker 2>stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Representative Jeff Crank and I want to to

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<v Speaker 1>get to with something that I and I've gone back

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<v Speaker 1>and I've corrected the blog, so if you looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier, you will see me as I just told

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff I've hoisted myself on my own Petardi idiocy because

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<v Speaker 1>one member, one Republican member of the Colorado delegation, voted

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<v Speaker 1>against a move to censure Representative ilhan Omar, who has

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<v Speaker 1>been everywhere she can be saying the most nasty things

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<v Speaker 1>she can about your kirk, because that's what she does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am so wrong. It was Representative Jeff Heard

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<v Speaker 1>who voted no.

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<v Speaker 3>You voted yes on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Why well, And to even confuse it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more, what we actually voted on was

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<v Speaker 2>a motion to table a motion to censure ilhan Omar.

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<v Speaker 2>So I actually voted no on the motion to table it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Heard voted yes. But essentially I voted to continue

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<v Speaker 2>with the resolution of censure on ilhan Omar. Jeff Heard

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<v Speaker 2>voted yes on the motion to table that, so he

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<v Speaker 2>voted against the censure of ilhan Omar. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to speak for Jeff. Jeff's a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a vote that I agreed with or would

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<v Speaker 2>I support free speech. I've I am very much opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to the government coming in. You know, there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of talk about free speech as of late, and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole issue with Jimmy Kimmel and all of that, well, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the free market ought to decide whether Jimmy Kimmel's on

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<v Speaker 2>the air or not. I don't watch him, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like him, and if people don't want him on air,

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<v Speaker 2>stop watching him. But the government should never whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fec or I'm sorry, the FCC chairman or anyone

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<v Speaker 2>else should never step in. It's a violation of the

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<v Speaker 2>First Amendment to get government telling someone that they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be doing that. We saw it during COVID. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw what the Biden administration did to censor people

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<v Speaker 2>who had a different view of COVID. That is wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Supreme Courts ruled that it's wrong. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>totally against that. But this wasn't an issue with Ilhan

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<v Speaker 2>Omar in my view of free speech. In fact, if

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<v Speaker 2>we would have passed the resolution of censure, she still

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<v Speaker 2>had free speech. She had every right to say whatever

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<v Speaker 2>vile and discussed thing that she wanted to say, and

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<v Speaker 2>she has said a lot of vile and disgusting things,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly about Charlie Kirk. She's fully entitled to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>The question on whether or not we should censure her

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<v Speaker 2>is whether or not that is becoming of a member

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<v Speaker 2>of Congress, and whether we should hold ourselves to a

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<v Speaker 2>higher standard. And I would simply say this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a motion or a resolution a few months

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<v Speaker 2>back when two Democrats were killed in Minnesota by this

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<v Speaker 2>guy who went to their door, these Democrat legislators, and

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<v Speaker 2>he killed them. I voted for that, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>every Republican voted right to condemn that action. They did.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Every Republican voted to contemn the political violence that took

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of Melissahrtman and her husband. And you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even get Democrats to vote for a resolution just honoring.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's terrible that we've to that point where we

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<v Speaker 2>have to fight over this. Look. I said this last night.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't as a human being and an American,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't say that the murder of someone else

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong, an innocent person, just because you disagree with them.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't say that that's wrong, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and go to church again. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and have your parents raise you again, because

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<v Speaker 2>that is the most Unamerican thing. It's the most un

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<v Speaker 2>Christian thought that anybody could have. We should all be

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<v Speaker 2>condemning violence, and we should all stand up for the

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<v Speaker 2>First Amendment. They are not mutually exclusive. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>do the right thing, and we as leaders need to

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<v Speaker 2>hold people accountable when they don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've been going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I can appreciate the fact that everything you

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<v Speaker 1>Carr is significant enough that if he was cut loose,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be okay with that, because I don't want people

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<v Speaker 1>who have the power to permanently disrupt someone's life. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's be real, the FCC commissioner can call my boss

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<v Speaker 1>right now and Jeff, your former.

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<v Speaker 1>The FCC commissioner can call my boss right now and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to find your host five hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for something I think she said wrong, and that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get me fired, Like the you know I heart

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<v Speaker 1>for getting that. Fine, that's how it works. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am against that. I'd be okay if he left. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, this hue and cry over Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmel has been full of crocodile tears and massive swaths

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<v Speaker 1>of hypocrisy. That my defense of him in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that what Brendan Carr did was stupid, he should have

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<v Speaker 1>never done that, he should have kept his yapper shut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, eh, you know, I probably should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be more upset, but the outrage does not meet the

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<v Speaker 1>level of what actually happened, especially when today on x

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<v Speaker 1>I see Jim Jordan has published a read of admissions

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<v Speaker 1>by Alphabet by Meta of the myriad ways that the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration worked very diligently to censor viewpoints that at

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<v Speaker 1>this point have found to be accurate during COVID. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even that they were wrong, they were just unpopular,

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<v Speaker 1>and now most of them have been proven true.

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<v Speaker 3>So the censorship issue was huge, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy that that was all litigated. It was taken to

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court ruled on it

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<v Speaker 2>in the Missouri case and said that the government interfering

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to go to these social media companies and

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<v Speaker 2>have and censor through them, to use social media companies

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<v Speaker 2>as the agent that would censor on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 2>government was a violation of the First Amendment. And the

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<v Speaker 2>same is true if the FCC chair or someone from

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<v Speaker 2>or the FCC as a whole would try and do

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<v Speaker 2>that as well, that's wrong. But look, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>A company has every right if they are hiring you

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<v Speaker 2>as a spokesperson and you say something that you know

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<v Speaker 3>That's in my contract.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a violation of the First Amendment in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>shape or form, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, the issue really comes down to,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said it on the first day, it is

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<v Speaker 1>my belief. You've worked in media that ABC News looked

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<v Speaker 1>at a show that's probably losing money hand over fist.

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<v Speaker 1>We know Colbert was losing forty million dollars a year

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<v Speaker 1>and they saw an opportunity to scrape that contract off

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<v Speaker 1>and they tried to take it, but the backlash was

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<v Speaker 3>They could not do that. And that that is my theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna die on that hill because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in this industry for so long, I know how

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think that's one hundred percent true. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is anybody and you know this because I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that the radio business, having been in it

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<v Speaker 2>is a free market business.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't produce a good show, advertisers won't pay

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<v Speaker 2>to advertise, and pretty soon, uh you know, your your

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<v Speaker 2>employer looks at and says, well, I don't know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go in a different direction. So it still is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those areas. It's very free market uh here.

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<v Speaker 2>But but we don't embrace that as conservatives, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to think that these late night shows, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't they're not even funny. What what about what Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Kimmel said? What whether it was it was uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>inappropriate for him to say it or not all of that?

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<v Speaker 2>What about it was funny? There was nothing funny about

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<v Speaker 2>what he said? And so you know the job here

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<v Speaker 2>on late night comedy last I checked and Johnny Carson

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<v Speaker 2>of course, has a great famous discussion where he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not my job to preach to people,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's to entertain them and be funny. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's that should be the standard. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that. And you see with like Greg Guttfeld

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox News and his show, he's killing these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's got it down. He's trying to be funny,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes after Trump, he goes after the right,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes after the left. He's funny, and I missed

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<v Speaker 2>the old days. I thought David Letterman was funny until

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<v Speaker 2>you know, until George Bush came along, and then he is.

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<v Speaker 2>His driven hatred for George Bush caused him to go

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Jeff Crank, I really appreciate your time today, and boy,

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<v Speaker 1>am I glad you didn't vote against that thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly had no idea what I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you many, I'm glad I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote it too.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, to Congressman, I appreciate you coming on

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<v Speaker 1>today very very much, and hopefully we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do this soon.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Thanks all right, Andy, appreciate thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Representative Jeff Crank, who is not the one who

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.