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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh anybody, It's hump Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is hump Day. Welcome to the Big Blue Cider.

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<v Speaker 3>A frigid Wednesday. It's a very cold hump Day, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's heating up in the Big Blue Nation, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>After last night's win Ulver, Texas A and M Dick

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<v Speaker 3>Gabriel with you, we will talk about that tonight. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll also talk Entucky football and just sports in general,

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<v Speaker 3>because coming up at the bottom of the hour, Sean Woods,

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<v Speaker 3>the Unforgettable Guard, will break down last night's game with

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<v Speaker 3>us and obviously he liked what he saw. And in

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<v Speaker 3>our number two, Anthony White will join us. Anthony the

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<v Speaker 3>former football Wildcat who is a co host of Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>Morning Sports Talk and The Locker four one one podcast

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<v Speaker 3>with Van Hiles, one of our favorite guests as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll hear what Anthony has to say about what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on right now with the program with all this

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<v Speaker 3>portal traffic, and he has been going back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter a little bit with some fans who are

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<v Speaker 3>critical of some of the moves that Mark Stups is making.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the turnover with this team, and as

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<v Speaker 3>he points that, look he had a team that was

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<v Speaker 3>four and eight and he didn't like the way things

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<v Speaker 3>were going. Why play and I'm paraphrasing, why play a

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<v Speaker 3>Pat Hans. We'll talk about Anthony with Anthony about all

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<v Speaker 3>the player movement as well, and our West n bea chief.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Moore will be with us in our number two

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what we do on Wednesdays, and we were back,

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<v Speaker 3>at least for now to a regular Wednesday schedule. Because

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<v Speaker 3>the basketball games are Tuesday Saturday this week and Alabama

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<v Speaker 3>is ahead. That's gonna be huge. But we need to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this A and M win in several different

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<v Speaker 3>ways because it was a game not like any other game.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you've seen some ugly stretches from this

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky team, and I mean that in a good way,

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<v Speaker 3>having to kind of grind things out. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think we have seen a team play start to finish

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<v Speaker 3>so far the season the way Texas A and M did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson was physical. There have been Like I said, Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 3>make Kentucky play a little ugly and really beat the

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<v Speaker 3>Wildcats in practically every way you could up there in

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<v Speaker 3>New York. But I think the biggest lesson, at least

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<v Speaker 3>that I took away from this game was this, we

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<v Speaker 3>cannot be too quick to judge. Really, you never showed period,

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<v Speaker 3>But we shouldn't have been so quick to judge this

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky team because of the newness, if that's the proper word,

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<v Speaker 3>with this roster, with the way these guys are playing,

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<v Speaker 3>with what Mark Pope is asking them to do. He's

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<v Speaker 3>basically in some ways, not every way, but in some

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<v Speaker 3>ways asking them to leave behind what they've done in

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<v Speaker 3>the past, and I mean probably in subtle ways and

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<v Speaker 3>in some big ways to play his style of basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the way he wants them to run offense

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<v Speaker 3>and communicate and all that. And he talked about it

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<v Speaker 3>in some of the losses that the players sort of

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<v Speaker 3>defaulted to what they knew and abandoned what they should

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<v Speaker 3>have been doing on offense, particularly, and we saw what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't work, did it all? Right? So now you've

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<v Speaker 3>got A and M coming in minus it's best player.

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<v Speaker 3>We know this, But as I always say, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like they were playing four on five. They had other

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<v Speaker 3>kids coming in. But Waye Taylor is their best player.

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<v Speaker 3>We know this, but maybe that made it a little

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<v Speaker 3>more difficult for Kentucky to figure out how to stop

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<v Speaker 3>A and M. And by the way, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>an A and M team that is a great shooting

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<v Speaker 3>three point ball club. But it sure looked that way,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't it in the first half. That's why A and

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<v Speaker 3>M took the leade on the Wildcats until late in

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<v Speaker 3>the half, because the Aggies were knocking down threes. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they go for twelve in the second half, and you

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<v Speaker 3>saw what happened. Kentucky built a double digit lead on

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<v Speaker 3>more than one occasion, and yet on more than one occasion,

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<v Speaker 3>A and M came back and whittled it down. Because

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<v Speaker 3>it's a good team. They were ranked eleventh in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know a lot of these SEC teams right

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<v Speaker 3>now are probably over ranked or were over ranked, because

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<v Speaker 3>now you see what's happening. They're beating each other up.

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<v Speaker 3>And you knew this would happen. But who raised your

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<v Speaker 3>hand if you thought Arkansas would be owing four at

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<v Speaker 3>this point? I know some of you hoped that because

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<v Speaker 3>you still have a problem with Caliperry, but did you

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<v Speaker 3>did the basketball person in you really think with that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of talent, Arkansas would be owing four and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>just not playing very well. I watched the second half

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<v Speaker 3>of that game. They blew a huge first half lead.

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<v Speaker 3>But unless you going in was owing three, nobody expected that.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody thought all this you would be very good this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I said, these teams are just beating each

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<v Speaker 3>other up right now. It's gonna happen for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. But Kentucky right now rising above most

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<v Speaker 3>with five quad one wins and more opportunities on the way,

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<v Speaker 3>including Alabama coming up. But back to what we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, the way the Wildcats had to win. They

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<v Speaker 3>beat a really good defensive an M team, and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw some complaints as usual about Jimmy Dikes. And again

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<v Speaker 3>I'm partial to Jimmy. I've known him for all It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like we're boys, but I think he does a

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<v Speaker 3>very good job. And for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 3>critical of him, I've said it before and I'll keep

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<v Speaker 3>saying it, Jimmy Dikes has more. If I'm gonna use

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<v Speaker 3>the cliche skin in the game when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>analyzing Kentucky, because for the dozens and dozens of college

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<v Speaker 3>basketball analysts out there, he is the only one on

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<v Speaker 3>the national level who knows what it's like to work here,

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<v Speaker 3>to live here, and to coach here, and as such

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<v Speaker 3>is more intimately aware of the Big Blue Nation and

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fans, but more importantly the standards for Kentucky basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why he was so hard on UK when Billy

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<v Speaker 3>Gillespie was the coach here. And I remember one night

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<v Speaker 3>before the game, I just went by to say hello

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<v Speaker 3>to Jimmy and we were just kind of commiserating about

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<v Speaker 3>how bad Kentucky looked, and he was trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what Gillispie was trying to do with his recruiting,

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<v Speaker 3>with his personnel, with his lineups, And at one point

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy said, what is he doing? I don't know, so anyhow,

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<v Speaker 3>That's why Jimmy, I think, bears a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a different look. When you're talking about analysts and some

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<v Speaker 3>of you, if you're not fully rooting for the Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 3>you're against the Wildcats, and that's why you don't like him.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't like Jay Billis, you don't like whoever's doing

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<v Speaker 3>a game if they're not constantly praising the Cats, well, look,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't work that way. And you know that. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 3>last night's game was a defensive struggle, and as Pope

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out, it took a while to figure things out,

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<v Speaker 3>but they did. And Buzz Williams after the game, and

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<v Speaker 3>may have already heard some of his comments. The head

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<v Speaker 3>coach Ray and m as a basketball professional, really impressed

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<v Speaker 3>with what he has seen in this Kentucky team. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's beaten Kentucky in the past, not very often, but

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<v Speaker 3>he has. But he's really impressed with what he has seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Pope and his staff put together in a short

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<v Speaker 3>amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good players, a lot of variety to the skill,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know. But I think the utilization of the

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<v Speaker 1>talent and the skill, considering the newness of the coach

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<v Speaker 1>and his staff and the players, that's really difficult to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not seen any of their practices or their

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<v Speaker 1>film sessions, but the teaching that's going on and the

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<v Speaker 1>itinerary of the practices for them to have the execution

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<v Speaker 1>that they have remarkable. The third best offense in the

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<v Speaker 1>country that puts stress on you in transition. It puts

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<v Speaker 1>stress on you immediately following transition, and then as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as it goes to twenty two or ten, and they

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<v Speaker 1>begin to run coaches offense. That's a different type of stress.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's three versions of stress, and they're potent in

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<v Speaker 1>each category.

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<v Speaker 3>I must admit I hadn't really thought about it that

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<v Speaker 3>way when it comes to the Wildcats, but I will

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<v Speaker 3>from now on as we analyze each game. Jeff Drummond

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<v Speaker 3>of kat Illustrated, longtime buddy, longtime Friends of the show,

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<v Speaker 3>asked Buzz Williams to comment basically on Amary Williams and

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<v Speaker 3>the job that Amari did on the glass. And like

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<v Speaker 3>probably every coach in America, these guys from looking at

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<v Speaker 3>hours and hours of video, as they like to say,

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<v Speaker 3>studying the film, they know these players first and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>only by their number and not their name. But I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you what. When Buzz Williams figured out who Amar

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<v Speaker 3>Williams was, that he was number twenty two, he lit up.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you comment on Amari Williams and the job he

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<v Speaker 4>did on the glass for them tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me just a second. I don't know their names,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know their numbers. Oh, I love him twenty two. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know him, but twenty nine percent usage rate

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<v Speaker 1>as a left haender at that size. You can google it.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not one not that's playing in college. And his

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<v Speaker 1>assist rate is higher than anybody on the team other

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<v Speaker 1>than one, but one is getting his assist primarily, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, in the first twelve seconds of the clock,

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<v Speaker 1>but as soon as one's giving it up to twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when they're initiating offense and he's going left, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. He's the tallest point guard I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>And Williams went on to say that once Amari gives

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<v Speaker 3>up the basketball or moves as he put it, within

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<v Speaker 3>the charge circle, you know, the small circle under the bucket,

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<v Speaker 3>now he becomes physical and that's just a different element

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<v Speaker 3>to his game. And that's something Mark Pope talked about

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<v Speaker 3>last night when he was asked about Amari about the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he now has it's almost like he has

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm paraphrasing, permission to be physical compared to the

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<v Speaker 3>way he played in Philly.

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<v Speaker 5>Up at Drexel, looks a man child on the glass,

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<v Speaker 5>didn't he? My goodness, he was a man on the glass.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really proud of him tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>He's you know, it's justtioning. So Amari's played at a

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<v Speaker 5>much different level basketball for the last three years. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think what's fun right now is is he's been

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<v Speaker 5>given permission by the whistle to actually use his physicality

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<v Speaker 5>which he couldn't use at direct So like he was

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<v Speaker 5>a much different deal right It was kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm playing against smaller guys. If I touch somebody, they're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna fall over. I'm gonna get a whistle. So this

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<v Speaker 5>adjustment for him now where he's like, wait, you know

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<v Speaker 5>I can run dudes over it. It's okay, Like it

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<v Speaker 5>gets fun. I think he's having a great time, man,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's fighting for his team. And we talked about

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<v Speaker 5>this after the last game, but he man, he loves

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<v Speaker 5>his He got at it's just a ginormous I know

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<v Speaker 5>that's not a word, but I'm gona use it anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>A ginormous heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Remember a week or two ago he talked about

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<v Speaker 3>amar and about how much he cares about this team,

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<v Speaker 3>And there was a common from Amari after the game

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<v Speaker 3>about the s word soft and these guys have heard it,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not directly, but they heard it. And I wondered,

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<v Speaker 3>was this Kentucky team too soft or just trying to

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<v Speaker 6>But even on mental toughness, people saying he could have

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<v Speaker 6>previous games before that. But yeah, like you said, we

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<v Speaker 3>So a soft team isn't going to win that game

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<v Speaker 3>last night because of the way Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 3>if Kentucky doesn't answer force with force, it loses that

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<v Speaker 3>plus Kentucky just wasn't hitting missed I think ten of

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<v Speaker 3>trying to victimize him, but he's getting better at using

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<v Speaker 3>with Shawn Wood's coming up. Out of the hour, and

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<v Speaker 3>and now we're number two. Anthony White and our Western

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<v Speaker 3>Big mullon Sider six. Welcome back to the Big Bullonsider.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up just a couple of minutes, Sean Woods, the

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<v Speaker 3>of the hour, Anthony White, former football Wildcat, will break

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<v Speaker 3>So we went along in the first segment just a

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Kelly, by the way, I'll be rooting, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>for Notre Dame. Nothing against Ohio State rooting for the

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<v Speaker 3>underdog in the championship game. But something that of course

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<v Speaker 3>came up was the fact that Brian Kelly, the former

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame coach, left because he said, and I'm quoting,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, I want to be in an environment

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<v Speaker 3>where I have the resources to win a national championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's saying I wasn't leaving Notre Dame because I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't win a championship. I'm quoting. They are selling it

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<v Speaker 3>the way they want to sell it. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>he's pointing a finger at the media and whoever his

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<v Speaker 3>critics are. Look, he said it, you said it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was amazing when he said it that he was

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<v Speaker 3>leaving a place like Notre Dame because he believed the

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<v Speaker 3>resources weren't there to win a national title.

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<v Speaker 2>Win.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Notre Dame had won national titles plural, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was a long time ago compared to be speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, college football since then has changed drastically with

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<v Speaker 3>the portal and nil. And at the time I thought

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly would have a better shot at winning at LSU.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see Notre Dame playing for a title this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But don't try to go back and change history and

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<v Speaker 3>say I never said that, because you did own it.

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<v Speaker 3>End up and own it and we'll all be better off.

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<v Speaker 3>Shawn Wood's next six thirty w LAP Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 3>the Big Blue Insider at his Wednesday, which means that's

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<v Speaker 3>the day, if we are on a regular schedule that

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<v Speaker 3>we talk with the unforgettable Guard, Shawn Woods. His jersey

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<v Speaker 3>hangs in the rafters of Rupp and he was watching

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<v Speaker 3>last night as the Wildcats knocked off Texas A and

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who's been a head coach, no such thing

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<v Speaker 3>as an ugly win. But it was kind of an

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<v Speaker 3>ugly game, wasn't it? And yet Kentucky adapted.

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<v Speaker 7>I am so ecstatic and proud of Perry. I thought

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<v Speaker 7>that he was the key because you know, the last

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<v Speaker 7>couple of games. He's been kind of you know the

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<v Speaker 7>weeklyin you know they you know, most teams when he

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<v Speaker 7>comes in, when Butler goes out, you know, they kind

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<v Speaker 7>of go at him a little bit. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 7>you what couple of games, he's making shots, he's handling

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<v Speaker 7>the ball, he's becoming a solid defender. We're not losing

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<v Speaker 7>any points, of losing any trailway. When he comes in

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<v Speaker 7>the game and Butler goes out, I thought that he

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<v Speaker 7>really gave Kentucky a boost of confidence when he made

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<v Speaker 7>shots to make good plays in the midst of A

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<v Speaker 7>and M's run. And there was an actual brutal game.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'll tell you what, I didn't think Butler was

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<v Speaker 7>gonna make it. I mean for a five minutes saying, man,

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<v Speaker 7>he had an opportunity to blow out a shoe and

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<v Speaker 7>tear up an ankle. Another deal, he heard his shoulder,

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<v Speaker 7>Another deal, he got hit in the face. And I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, man, why don't you just take him out

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<v Speaker 7>Mark just for a little bit more and let him,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, regroup a little bit. Because he came back

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<v Speaker 7>in it was like a pinball again. But you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Kentucky's just showing some characters from resilience. And I tell

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<v Speaker 7>people all the time that I don't care who's the

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<v Speaker 7>We don't lose at home. We just don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't care who it is. We don't lose against

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<v Speaker 7>Mississippi State at home, we just don't. And I just

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<v Speaker 7>thought that they did what they were supposed to do

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<v Speaker 7>to to to serve home, you know, to take care home.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm just so proud of the fight. Fortunate for us,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I mean, am I'm sorry Texas and M

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<v Speaker 7>fortunate for us Texas and M best player at point

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<v Speaker 7>guard didn't play. But we are showing to resilience in

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<v Speaker 7>this brutal SEC schedule and it's only gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think our confidence is growing. Jackson's playing much better.

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<v Speaker 7>O way was was a major piece, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 7>in the second half, and we didn't you know, are

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<v Speaker 7>we gonna get dominated at times with offensive rebounds, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>but we don't get dominated enough to where it really

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<v Speaker 7>especially the games that we won, we've rebounded enough. And

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<v Speaker 7>as long as we can rebound enough, the way we

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<v Speaker 7>shoot the ball and the way we can pose our

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<v Speaker 3>I was just flabbergasted at how well. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a knock, but it's just it's a nod to how

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<v Speaker 3>good A and M is. As Pope pointed out after

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<v Speaker 3>the game, they going into this game forty four percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the time when a shot goes up, they get

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive rebound and Kentucky, which is incredible, especially that's

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<v Speaker 3>not a huge team, and yet Kentucky I rebounded them

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<v Speaker 3>overall and on the offensive glass. And it didn't occur

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I kind of kept peeking at the stats

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<v Speaker 3>and I would tweet that, yeah, Kentucky's winning the boards battle.

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<v Speaker 3>But just the way they did that was huge last night,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it was huge because you know, the fight, that's

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<v Speaker 7>what I like. You know, as a coach, you want

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<v Speaker 7>your guys to at the highest level against you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the toughest teams in America, and I think Texas A

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<v Speaker 7>matter how big they are, that's just a Buzz Williams team.

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<v Speaker 7>And for us to answer the bell, you know, was

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<v Speaker 7>was tremendous for me in my eyes, because everybody was

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<v Speaker 7>in the fight. Everybody who played, you know, made some

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<v Speaker 7>tough plays and that's what it's all about, you know, collectively,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you got to make more tough plays than

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<v Speaker 3>Well let's back up and talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 3>Lamont Butler, and yeah, he was just beating in Bruce

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<v Speaker 3>last night. But he's just a remarkable defender. They took

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<v Speaker 3>him to the rim a few times, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's He's a guy who really such a great tone

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<v Speaker 3>defensively for his teammates.

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<v Speaker 7>And my seeing that right, you're sending exactly right. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>I've been saying it all years, as you and I

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<v Speaker 7>have talked about, we can't be as good as we

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<v Speaker 7>want to be or go as far as we want

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<v Speaker 7>to go without Lamont Butler. He's the key siece to

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<v Speaker 7>this team. No matter what, you know, we can lose

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<v Speaker 7>a person here there through from you know, through injuries

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<v Speaker 7>and things like that. But I think Lamont Butler is

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<v Speaker 7>one of the most underrated point guards and not only

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<v Speaker 7>in the SEC but in America for what he does

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<v Speaker 7>for his team. And you know, he's one of the

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<v Speaker 7>he plays with great composure. He's an awesome leader with

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<v Speaker 7>his voice and by example, and he's always pressing the

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<v Speaker 7>needle when things break down, he makes a play, either

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<v Speaker 7>offensively or defensively. And he's the guy that if I'm

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<v Speaker 7>the opposing coach, he's the one person that I'm more

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<v Speaker 7>worried about than anybody on the team because he does

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<v Speaker 7>all the intangible. He's a winner. You know, he's the

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<v Speaker 7>personality on this team, and you know, there's no doubt

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<v Speaker 7>in my mind that he's the MVP of this team.

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<v Speaker 7>But not only that, you know, if push comes to

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<v Speaker 7>teams in this league, not only do I think he's

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<v Speaker 7>the first team All SEC guy at that position, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I just think he's the first team All SEC guy period,

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<v Speaker 7>because of the importance that he brings to his basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Teck, did you know much about him Sean when Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Pope signed him? I mean everybody saw him shoot San

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<v Speaker 3>Diego State into the Final four, But prior to that,

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<v Speaker 3>were you aware of him much playing on the West Coast?

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<v Speaker 7>No, not at all. Well, you know, I watched San

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<v Speaker 7>where you know how much of an impact he made

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<v Speaker 7>on their team. But I you know, but right now,

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<v Speaker 7>there's not one impactful person on a team him right now,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. Like there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 7>teams that can lose a player here there, but we

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>He's just that important to our to the success of

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<v Speaker 7>our team. And uh, you know, I love it. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>he's one of my favorite players in the country, may

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<v Speaker 3>And when you go back and look at the game,

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky won without him up a good Zaga. That makes

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<v Speaker 3>it even more impressive, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 7>Without him? Yeah, we got lucky. You know, we can't

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I mean. We got lucky on that one.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought, I thought, to be honest with you, I

419
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<v Speaker 7>thought because Zaga out played it. I just thought they

420
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<v Speaker 7>had a meltdown the last five minutes of the game,

421
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<v Speaker 7>which is uncharacteristic you know of a mark Few team.

422
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<v Speaker 7>But I'm telling you right now, I am a My

423
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<v Speaker 7>Butler fan. Through and through. And uh, he's one of

424
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<v Speaker 7>the reasons why I love watching this team because I

425
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<v Speaker 7>love watching him. You know, Hawk that ball, push it

426
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<v Speaker 7>when he has it. He's always under control for the

427
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<v Speaker 7>most part, and he's always seems to make the right

428
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<v Speaker 7>play at the right time when we actually need it

429
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<v Speaker 7>on both ends of the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you said you're a coach who appreciates a guy

431
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<v Speaker 3>like him, and Buzz Williams was asked about Mary Williams

432
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<v Speaker 3>and and like all you guys, I don't know if

433
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<v Speaker 3>you were this way, but you know, he didn't know names,

434
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 3>he knew numbers. He's like which one twenty two? Oh,

435
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.599
<v Speaker 3>I love him. And he started talking about he called

436
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 3>him a point big man, you know, and what and

437
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>what kind of damage of Mary Williams can do as

438
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<v Speaker 3>a passer? Uh, And that's become evident. I think the

439
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fans I got to think you like that.

440
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:48.599
<v Speaker 7>Too, no doubt about it. Not only is he a passer,

441
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:54.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, he's a warrior. Yeah, you know, he's the

442
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.039
<v Speaker 7>physical presence of our team. You know, I thought he

443
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 7>got a couple of cheap fouls last night. A man,

444
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, he's going to make you feel him, you know,

445
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 7>and he's got to continue to do that and stay

446
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<v Speaker 7>out of foul trouble. But you know, he's the physical

447
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 7>presidence of our basketball team, you know, and every team

448
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:16.640
<v Speaker 7>needs Amari Williams and thank god he's on our team.

449
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 7>And another thing is he makes free throws.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, he makes.

451
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 7>Free He's got to finish a little bit better around

452
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<v Speaker 7>the rim, you know. You know, I think he you know,

453
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<v Speaker 7>for us to really get to where we need to go,

454
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 7>we need him to be able. We need to be

455
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<v Speaker 7>able to throw the ball down to him and get

456
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.359
<v Speaker 7>a bucket when he's got one on one situations. But man,

457
00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 7>he's just a major physical presence. And sometimes you got

458
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<v Speaker 7>to have that type of guy that that that that's

459
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<v Speaker 7>going to fight a little bit, that got a little

460
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<v Speaker 7>stuff to him, and he definitely has that.

461
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<v Speaker 3>We're talking with Sean Woods, the unforgettable Guard, about the

462
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Wildcats went over Texas A and M last night. We'll

463
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<v Speaker 3>talk more on the other side of the break here

464
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<v Speaker 3>on the Big Blue Sider six thirty. Welcome back with

465
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<v Speaker 3>you talking with the Unforgettable Guard, Sean Woods. He joined

466
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<v Speaker 3>us each and every Wednesday to talk about his beloved

467
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<v Speaker 3>Wildcast before the break, Seawan, we were talking about both

468
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Lamont Butler and Mary Williams, two guys who last night

469
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<v Speaker 3>took and delivered some punishment. But I thought it was

470
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<v Speaker 3>interesting that Mark Pope, Jackson Robinson, Marie Wins they all

471
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<v Speaker 3>used the S word when they were talking about how

472
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky's been playing of late, and that is soft. You know,

473
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.880
<v Speaker 3>people were saying it whispering. This team's kind of so

474
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 3>I had to admit I wondered, is that a problem

475
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 3>for this team? But these guys are are fully aware

476
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.920
<v Speaker 3>of what was being said, and this day and age

477
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 3>is not a surprise, social media being what it is,

478
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not they're not combing through Twitter to find

479
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 3>out what people are saying, but they're hearing it, probably secondhand.

480
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.720
<v Speaker 3>And I think it's interesting Sean, that they have set out.

481
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It's almost like they're trying to make a point. Hey,

482
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<v Speaker 3>we're not soft be in.

483
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 7>This league, right, There's no way you can be soft.

484
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.839
<v Speaker 7>Now the other team, you know, the losses that we've had,

485
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 7>we were worse off, you know, because the other team

486
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 7>was just better than us. They took it to us,

487
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.720
<v Speaker 7>They were better than us that night. But in order

488
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 7>for us to win every game. We have to be

489
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 7>tenacious like we have been in most of our wins.

490
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 7>When we do lose, it's because of a physical situation. Yeah,

491
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, people take us off out of our deal

492
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 7>and sometimes the other team just scouts us. You know

493
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 7>what I'm saying. Better, you know, they're better at running

494
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.640
<v Speaker 7>us off. You know, I thought that, you know, I

495
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 7>thought shoot Texas A and M did a great job

496
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:45.640
<v Speaker 7>really on our shooters.

497
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<v Speaker 6>You know.

498
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 7>It was a grinding game, yes, you know. And now

499
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky's got to do something else, and they're showing the

500
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 7>world in these wins that they can make adjustments that

501
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 7>they can win another way. You're not going to win

502
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 7>in the SEC by just shooting jumps, shooting threes. You

503
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.559
<v Speaker 7>gotta do something else, you got to You got to

504
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 7>control the backboard, you know. You gotta limit you know,

505
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 7>the other team to one shot. You got to control

506
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 7>their their guys because they feel that they can take

507
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 7>every one of our guys one on one, you know,

508
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 7>and that's a disrespect, you know. And kudos to Texas

509
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 7>A and M. They're small for man of they to nations.

510
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 7>You know, their guards played like Charles Barkley. You know,

511
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 7>they back the in and they keep going spinning and

512
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 7>turning and pivoting and pivoting until they can get a bucket.

513
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 7>But how many times can you do that throughout the

514
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 7>process of a game. You know, those are low per

515
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 7>center situations. So kudos to Kentucky's defense. Are you gonna

516
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 7>get scored on some Yeah? Our team's gonna get get

517
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 7>the league at the beginning, yeah too. They find their rhythm, yeah,

518
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 7>But the main thing is they have to sustain from

519
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 7>a physicality standpoint, and and and and and Tyler Perry

520
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 7>is going to have to continue to be solid like

521
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 7>he will last night to give Lamont Butler a break.

522
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 7>You know, if I don't see you know, Lamark Butler,

523
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 7>we don't want to rain down, don't We don't want

524
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 7>him playing thirty five minutes a game. If he can

525
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 7>play twenty eight minutes a game, that's perfect. But playing

526
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 7>thirty five thirty six and he has to play that way,

527
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 7>that's not good because now he's more susceptible to files.

528
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Nine times out of ten. Most times when he files,

529
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 7>he is because of fatigue, you know. But when he's

530
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 7>fresh and he can, you know, Mark and give him

531
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.079
<v Speaker 7>a blow here and there, and he comes back because

532
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 7>most teams aren't as deep, you know, especially at the

533
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 7>point guard position, so it gives him an opportunity to

534
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 7>get a blow and then come back more fresh and

535
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 7>pose his will on them from an offense and the

536
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 7>defensive standpoint. And you know, I'm proud of Perry. I'm

537
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 7>so proud of you because he's staying the course. He's

538
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.960
<v Speaker 7>not losing his confidence. You know, as a freshman, you

539
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 7>weren't playing the first six, seven, eight games. You know,

540
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 7>you're buying your time, and people are knocking you because

541
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 7>they feel like you know you, you know you're not

542
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 7>your feet are as quick, you're not as good a defender.

543
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 7>But as any basketball player, if you're making shot, you

544
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 7>get more comfortable and more put to the nations, uh

545
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 7>and more fisful on the defensive end. And uh, I thought,

546
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 7>that's what happened to him last night and which was

547
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 7>a major part in our success and winning that game.

548
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the thing to remember too is Travis

549
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 3>Perry not only is a true freshman, but it's coming

550
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 3>from a high school situation where they didn't want him

551
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 3>to play try to play lockdown, smothering defense because his

552
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 3>high school team couldn't afford to get him into foul trouble.

553
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's the same for so many high school offensive

554
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 3>stars who you know on defense. They want him to

555
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>stay out of trouble and not make trouble. So, you know,

556
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 3>I think he's probably got farther to go than most guys.

557
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Is that is that fair?

558
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's called genetics, dick, And you know some people

559
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 7>are quicker laterly than others, you know what I'm saying.

560
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 7>And you know it's just you know, if I see

561
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 7>somebody like like him, I'm going at him too, sure,

562
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 7>So you know what I'm saying.

563
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>So you know.

564
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 7>It is what it is. But I just think that

565
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 7>in most high school kids don't know how to play

566
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 7>defense period, you know, unless you from the East Coast

567
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 7>or you just naturally got it, you know what I'm saying.

568
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.720
<v Speaker 7>That competitive edge in you where you want to compose

569
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 7>your will on somebody from a defensive end to not

570
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 7>just from an offensive end. You know, that's the mentality

571
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 7>that he has to get, you know, and that takes time.

572
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's not something that he's ever done. I

573
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 7>don't think me watching him like you know, last year,

574
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 7>watching him in high school, you know, they were just

575
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:50.960
<v Speaker 7>up and down. And I don't see too many high

576
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 7>school kids periods that are really really good on ball defensive.

577
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 3>How many kids scientifically.

578
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 7>They could potentially be, but that's just not who they are,

579
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying, And they forget. And as

580
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 7>a coach, I always used to get on my guys

581
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 7>and talk about their high school coach because you know,

582
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 7>when you get you know, you have all these accolades

583
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 7>from an offensive standpoint, but you don't know how to

584
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 7>make an entry pass into the post, or you don't

585
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 7>know how to slide your feet, you don't know how

586
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 7>to jump to the ball. You know that goes along.

587
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 7>That's a lot in high school basketball, and that's what

588
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 7>frustrates college coaches. So then when you come to that

589
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 7>deal and then your high school coach wants to call

590
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 7>the college coach and say, hey, why isn't my kid playing.

591
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 7>That's one of the main reasons why freshmen don't play

592
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.519
<v Speaker 7>as much. It is because of the defensive end. And

593
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 7>he's getting it and he's doing just enough, and he's

594
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 7>gonna continue to get better because I'm seeing his confidence

595
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 7>rising and rising every every every game, especially making shots

596
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 7>and just playing great posiosition defense. He's never going to

597
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 7>be a guy like the LaMonte Butler who can pressure

598
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 7>the ball full court. That's never gonna beat him. That's

599
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 7>not who he is. Just play solid, keep the ball

600
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 7>in front, and you know what I'm saying, don't turn

601
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 7>the ball over and make shots when you have that opportunity.

602
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 7>I thought he did that to perfection last night.

603
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was going to say, how many high school

604
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 3>kids do you know or signed because of their defensive ability?

605
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Not that many?

606
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.640
<v Speaker 7>Guess what? Not too many high school players are even

607
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 7>recruited because of their defensive foul.

608
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe Patrick Ewing and a few others. But we

609
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>got a few minutes left with Sean Woods as we

610
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 3>talk about the Wildcats, so much craziness in the SEC.

611
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Missouri doesn't win a conference game last year, coach, and

612
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 3>they go and win at Florida, which as we know,

613
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>is a really good team. Cali Perry winless in the league,

614
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 3>LSU beating Arkansas it's first conference. When now you've got

615
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Alabama coming in, what do you expect?

616
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 7>I expect the same thing from last night. You know,

617
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 7>if we can keep Alabama out of the paint, which

618
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 7>allows them to you know, they want to create situations

619
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 7>where you're sunk in and then they can shoot it.

620
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 7>Because they are a pretty decent shooting basketball team. We

621
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 7>got to keep them off the glass, and we have

622
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 7>to sustain you know what I mean, because they've been

623
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 7>there before. They got a lot of guys, you know,

624
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 7>and they're one of the most talented teams in the SEC.

625
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 7>And they have a winning culture now and you know,

626
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 7>Mono and Mono, are we as good? I don't know,

627
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 7>but team wise, I think we're getting to the point

628
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 7>where we're on the top two or three teams in

629
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 7>this league. And coming in to Kentucky, coming into our place,

630
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 7>I feel more comfortable and I predicted it. You know,

631
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 7>we'll get this win.

632
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Also, Buzz Williams and I used the comment earlier in

633
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the show, right off the top. His postgame comments was

634
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 3>so complimentary of Pope, and he has said, he said

635
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.639
<v Speaker 3>much what's like what you've been saying all along. The

636
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 3>fact that they are playing as a team this well,

637
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 3>and these guys, you know, eight months ago, didn't know

638
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 3>each other, and the fact that they've been they've pulled

639
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 3>together so quickly. I'm not sure if you can capture

640
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>lightning in a bottle? How do you do this kind

641
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 3>of thing? But a lot of it's got to do is,

642
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, with Pope's personality style of play. And as

643
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 3>you and I have spoke spoken through the weeks, you know,

644
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 3>they've had to give themselves over to this, this style

645
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of play. But they're becoming more and more comfortable with

646
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 3>it now, aren't they.

647
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 7>They are because you know the difference between Mark Pope

648
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 7>and everybody else, especially with you know, this era of

649
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 7>transport portal Marcus is really he's still sticking to his

650
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 7>guns about his system. Yes, it's not about personnel. See,

651
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 7>a lot of these coaches are trying to mix in personnel.

652
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 7>You know, how does this guy play with this guy?

653
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, how do I you know, run this because

654
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 7>of this guy's strength. So Mark is recruiting to his

655
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 7>system and that's the reason why he looks. They look

656
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 7>more fluent from an offensive standpoint than anybody else because

657
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 7>he doesn't have a break you down guy, you know,

658
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 7>so he doesn't even have to worry about, you know,

659
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.199
<v Speaker 7>giving that guy the freedom always running ball screens and

660
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 7>letting him just go one on one from the top.

661
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 7>It's constant ball movement and it's constant player movement. And

662
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 7>when you have that and and and it's and it's

663
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 7>and everyone is cohesive. Especially from an offensive standpoint. Sooner

664
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 7>or later, he's gonna wear you down from his offense.

665
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.840
<v Speaker 7>Normally teams wear you down from their defense. Mark wears

666
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 7>you down from his offense and then he stops on defense.

667
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 7>It makes them even better because that offense and the

668
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 7>way they play is even better in transition. So he's

669
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 7>getting you in two ways. But he's becoming more underrated

670
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 7>from a defensive standpoint because if you look at the numbers,

671
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 7>they're one of the top teams defensively in America. Yeah,

672
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 7>so his style of play is so smooth because of

673
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:28.400
<v Speaker 7>his systems, and there's you know, no, it's not a

674
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.880
<v Speaker 7>grind where everybody else is in a grind. Kentucky's never

675
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 7>been in a grind this year. It's just we didn't

676
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 7>make enough shots, or you beat us this time because

677
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.239
<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying, our system didn't work to

678
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 7>a t, you know, so on and so forth. But

679
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 7>I'd rather be on that side than still trying to

680
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 7>figure it out. They don't have to figure it out.

681
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 7>They're not figuring it out. They know who they are

682
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 7>right now. They really do interesting and it's so refreshing

683
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Speaker 7>to see because their system and the way they do

684
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 7>things is a lot more smoother than everybody that they're playing.

685
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 7>And I told Mark this, I said, by the time

686
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 7>this was before the SEC, I said, by the time

687
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 7>you get to the SEC, you already have won a

688
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 7>lot of games, just because you've won the locker room.

689
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 7>They're worried about you how to defend you, more so

690
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 7>than you worried about how to defend them. And when

691
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 7>you get that coach talking about it's different. You gotta

692
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 7>match this. You gotta match this when you play them,

693
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 7>you already got them. That's seventy percent of the battle.

694
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 3>As always, Sean Wood's interesting insights on the basketball Wildcats,

695
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>and we'll talk next week about Kentucky, Alabama and more.

696
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, coach, good talking to you.

697
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 7>Stay warm you two buddy.

698
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Coming up next in hour number two, it's our West

699
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>End Bureau chief Gary Moore. But before that, Anthony White

700
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Poster Sunday Morning Sports Talk, the former football Wildcat weighs

701
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 3>in on what's happening in Mark Stifts program. That's all

702
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 3>ahead here on the Big One Sider six thirty WLAP

703
00:39:21.480 --> 00:40:41.159
<v Speaker 3>name welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider and

704
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.400
<v Speaker 3>joining us now a longtime friend that HA showed and

705
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 3>guy I covered his career at Kentucky and now he

706
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 3>can be heard on this very radio station. Anthony White,

707
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 3>who was a co host of Sunday Morning Sports Talk

708
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 3>as well as other Internet ventures, and b how are

709
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 3>you doing.

710
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 8>I'm doing pretty good, trying to stay warm. Finally got

711
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 8>out of house this week.

712
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Good for you. Uh, first time we chatted here in

713
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 3>the new year. So but one of the reasons I

714
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 3>called we got to get caught up was we haven't

715
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 3>talked in a while. But I couldn't help but notice

716
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.280
<v Speaker 3>a little back and forth on X on Twitter, you

717
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.199
<v Speaker 3>were getting into it a little bit, and I know

718
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you talked about it on Sunday Morning as well, about

719
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 3>what's happening with the Kentucky football program. And you're in

720
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 3>that record book in front and center, so you have

721
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time and sweat equity in that program.

722
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 3>But there's a lot of player movement right now in

723
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 3>college football in general, college sports in general. But I

724
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 3>get the impression you believe there needed to be a

725
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of player movement in this Kentucky program right now?

726
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Is that correct?

727
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely?

728
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.039
<v Speaker 8>If you follow the program with Mark Stukes first came

729
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 8>here two and ten seasons coming off of you know

730
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 8>what he was left with and you know him and

731
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 8>Vince Meryll and the guys had here. Guys coming to

732
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 8>UK was more or less no blue. A lot of

733
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.639
<v Speaker 8>guys who you gotta have your lunch pail with you,

734
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 8>uh and go to work with you know when you

735
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 8>got here. And uh, no matter what games we played, win,

736
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 8>lose or draw. The other teams that you know, guys

737
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 8>are hitting hard. They played hard, and I think we

738
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 8>kind of losing that blue, that blue collar edge.

739
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 7>I think it's due to.

740
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 8>Nil transport portal and some things like that and so.

741
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 8>And to me, me and my my co host on

742
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 8>the locker Man House thought that we may have been

743
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 8>going backwards for a years. This year was absolutely a

744
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 8>step backward. I thought last year we just took some

745
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 8>plays off, or we missed a couple of plays here

746
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 8>and there the past couple of years. But this year

747
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.159
<v Speaker 8>seemed like we never got clicking. We never had got rolling.

748
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 8>But gay we have to. We probably had the most depth,

749
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 8>probably the most talented team depth wise, and somewhat talent

750
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 8>wise that Stupis has probably had. So you kind of asked,

751
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 8>you scratch ahead and say why did they you know,

752
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 8>why are they regressing? You know, same coach, same culture. Uh,

753
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, the guys got all the accolades pre he

754
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 8>but like I said, I thought, transfer a portal and

755
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 8>nil calls. Some guys in miss practices, some guys in

756
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 8>this meeting. Some guys not be available throughout the weekend,

757
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 8>only on Saturday. So you know, everybody's well dange keys transferred.

758
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 8>Now lately the latest is is hard to give more

759
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 8>transferferring and people all this is the programs in shambles,

760
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 8>and that really that really rubbed me the wrong way

761
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 8>because I felt like that does a disjustice to SUPs.

762
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 8>Now you wanted them to bring back the same guys

763
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 8>who had us going four and eight, because there are

764
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 8>some top tier players, some of our starters, and I'm

765
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 8>not saying the guys that I named are those guys,

766
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 8>but there are some guys who's not showing up the practice.

767
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.639
<v Speaker 8>There's some guys who want to do their own thing

768
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 8>on certain plays, which causes gaps and causes big play.

769
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 8>And the coaches are the ones who have to answer

770
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 8>for those things. So I just wanted to tell the

771
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 8>crowd kind of to pump your breaks. These guys leave,

772
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 8>and they're leaving for a reason, Mark Stutson, that's them

773
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 8>the lead. He gave them ultimatum. I'm taking it back

774
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 8>over this ship, and I think some of those guys

775
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 8>that want the ship to be taken over, we're taking

776
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 8>some of this money back. We're putting it in an alepool.

777
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 8>We're gonna bring guys in here who's gonna carry out

778
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 8>the assignment. We're gonna bring guys in here who's gonna

779
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 8>be a practice. We're gonna bring guys in here who's

780
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.480
<v Speaker 8>gonna give it, you know, give it to you for

781
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 8>sixty minutes. So uh, I just kind of want, you know,

782
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 8>the crowd to chill, like you can't be mad that

783
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 8>we were foreign eight last year and you want him

784
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 8>to regroup a reset, then be scared when he starts

785
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 8>to regroup and reset.

786
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, there's a lot to unpack there, So let's

787
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 3>start with the blue collar element. And you're absolutely correct,

788
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 3>and everybody knows this and Stoops, it's quite frank about that.

789
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.480
<v Speaker 3>How that chip on the shoulder Youngstown kind of again,

790
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 3>like you said the culture, uh and you mentioned the

791
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 3>nil on the portal. My question, Anthony is can you

792
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 3>in this day and age, can anybody build or rebuild

793
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 3>that kind of culture With the players holding so much

794
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 3>of the power now and getting the big bucks and

795
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 3>feeling more entitled than they ever have in the history

796
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 3>of college athletics, It's gonna be.

797
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 7>Tough to do.

798
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 8>And I honestly think that's why Nick Saban and some

799
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 8>of these guys are getting out of the day. It

800
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 8>is gonna be tough to do. And I will tell

801
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 8>you this though, Gabe and you could attested. If anybody

802
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 8>can do it, it's gonna be Mark Stewet's for to

803
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.679
<v Speaker 8>quite a few reasons. He's a players coach, which I

804
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.119
<v Speaker 8>think that's why things got lacks around here. He gave

805
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 8>the players a minute of this doubt the players take

806
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 8>advantage of it. He's also been the guy that you know,

807
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.960
<v Speaker 8>coach guys in their transport port How many guys have

808
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 8>you seen in the transport portal will come back? He's

809
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 8>also that guy, well you know what, Look, I'm I'm

810
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 8>not gonna tie you down. If you think you find

811
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 8>something else, he'll let you go. Back and welcome you

812
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 8>back with open arms. Everything a players looking for in

813
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 8>a university is right here. You get to play in

814
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 8>the SEC. You got great coaches, Your coach cares about you.

815
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 8>I said the only one thing that you said that

816
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.719
<v Speaker 8>I think, and I think coach might have admitted. He

817
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 8>may not admitted out loud, but I know the people

818
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 8>that he may have admitted it to. We may not

819
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 8>have just spend in our money correctly. So the environment,

820
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 8>the culture, the coaching was all here. The one thing

821
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 8>we were missing with the Green guys, you know, the

822
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 8>bottom line, and though you're right, those guys want and

823
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 8>that's one aspect I don't think it's going to change.

824
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 8>I think those guys are don't want to go as

825
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.239
<v Speaker 8>the money as that, but if they're comfortable enough with

826
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 8>their coaches, the head coach position, coach, I think if

827
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 8>they're comfortable enough with those guys, they may stick around.

828
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 8>Maybe not for the bottom dollar, not for a lower dollar,

829
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 8>but for you know, the going ways. You don't have

830
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 8>to be astronomical, but.

831
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 3>You'll appreciate this. Being a guy who played on the

832
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 3>offensive side of the ball. Jeff Percorrel talked to Bush

833
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Hamden about play calling with regard to trying to spread

834
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 3>the ball around. And now he's got to be much

835
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 3>more cognizant of making sure they share the football because

836
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 3>now everybody wants their numb you know, everybody who is

837
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 3>either trying to get a better deal or justify what

838
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 3>he's got or whatever, hadn't touched the ball in a while. Well,

839
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 3>we got to make sure he gets a carrier, he

840
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 3>gets a ball thrown his way, that kind of thing.

841
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>And it's on the one end, it's kind of subtle,

842
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.199
<v Speaker 3>but on the other hand, it's not. And I got

843
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 3>to think that's a real challenge, don't you.

844
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 8>Oh absolutely, I said that throughout the year. I thought

845
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 8>that hand customer, I thought it made tougher him to

846
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 8>call play.

847
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm going to.

848
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 8>Try to be a little bit covert. But if we

849
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 8>got guys who can only run certain routes, maybe it's

850
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 8>a jets, maybe it's a screen. You got another guy

851
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 8>who can only run a vertical, there's not too many

852
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 8>people on that receiving room that you can run any

853
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 8>route with. So as a defense, well, this guy's in

854
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 8>the game. All we got to do is just stand

855
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 8>in the flats because he's only running a screen or jets.

856
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 8>We just stayed at home on the sweat. Now might

857
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 8>be one of the most dynamic players in the country,

858
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 8>but he's not a threat because he's not going vertical.

859
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 8>Now he's going vertical, there's a whole different story. Now

860
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 8>you got some guys who actually stuck around, who's been thinking, coach,

861
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 8>I just need an opportunity to get the ball in

862
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.360
<v Speaker 8>my hands. And a few times this year when they did,

863
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 8>they showed they can do something. But I could tell

864
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.519
<v Speaker 8>just from his play calling and you know the timing

865
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 8>of some of the calls he made that he was

866
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 8>trying to piece the players, and that goes all that

867
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 8>ties back into the transport portal and it also tries

868
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 8>it goes back to the nil. So when people hear

869
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 8>some of our starters, all that sc players leaving, do

870
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 8>you want those guys back that was on the four

871
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 8>and eight team, or if you want to bring guys

872
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 8>in who gosna run different routes, Guys who's going to

873
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 8>be teammates to other teammates. I've told you many times

874
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 8>in that air raid offense, we were going to throw

875
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 8>the ball forty or fifty times. You just got to

876
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 8>get open, and so we were just waiting for our turn.

877
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 8>You'd be a good teammate, you're gonna get your turn.

878
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 8>But I'm so a custle to spread the ball around.

879
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 8>But this whole thing where everybody gets a pitch count

880
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 8>or you on opportunity, that that that had to be

881
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 8>tough for Bush Hampson.

882
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 7>That had to be tough.

883
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I've got to say, and I've talked about this before

884
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 3>and I know you guys have as well, that I

885
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:14.960
<v Speaker 3>don't blame Dane Key and Barrion Brown for wanting to

886
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>spend that last year someplace where there's going to be

887
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:21.960
<v Speaker 3>more I don't want to say a sure thing, but

888
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 3>but they're going to be assured of a little more

889
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 3>stability on offense, you know, because this is the jumping

890
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>off point for these guys. This is it. They got

891
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 3>to show themselves to NFL scouts beyond what they've already done.

892
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 3>And uh, of course they'll both end up in NFL camps.

893
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.480
<v Speaker 3>But you know, just how seriously will teams treat them?

894
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 3>You know? Is you know, the higher you're drafted, the

895
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 3>more investment of team has. So to that end, I

896
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 3>don't really blame that Gilmour as I understand it. Uh

897
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 3>was a separation that had to happen for both parties.

898
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 3>But that wide receiver room is gonna be is gonna

899
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 3>have a new look, isn't it.

900
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 8>Oh, it's definitely gonna be a new looking. As you said,

901
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 8>I do think the other two guys had have to leave,

902
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 8>and I think it's fair to themselves. It's probably and

903
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 8>I don't think Mark Stuke's probably mad about it. They

904
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.079
<v Speaker 8>get an opportunity to go see what their stock is

905
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 8>gonna look.

906
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 7>Like at the next level. Are you only a two

907
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 7>route person?

908
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 8>Can you do more? You know, if your pastime, can

909
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.039
<v Speaker 8>you do for if you got more officer plays on

910
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 8>the field and those type of things.

911
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 7>It may or may not happen.

912
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.440
<v Speaker 8>I got my beliefs on some of the guys who left,

913
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 8>but I'm eager to see. I mean, I know Jamari

914
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 8>McLean can play out. I've seen him play. Fred Ferryer's

915
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.480
<v Speaker 8>coming back. There's some guys coming back, but there's also

916
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 8>you know, getting guys out of Clemson, La Tech, some

917
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 8>places that have been successful. I think just that winning attitude,

918
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 8>that locker room attitude is something that's gonna carry over.

919
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 8>I don't think well, like I say, it's a new

920
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 8>day and age you covered me. It ain't like when

921
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 8>we played that everybody, you know, kind of had a

922
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 8>lookout for each other. You weren't gonna be a cancer

923
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 8>in the locker room because somebody else is gonna nip

924
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 8>it at the bull. It would probably never get back

925
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.119
<v Speaker 8>to the coaches and they got really bad. But now

926
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 8>I love the fact right now we're feeling up the

927
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 8>we're filling up the receiver room with new talent. I

928
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 8>think our fan base kind of fell in love with

929
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:10.800
<v Speaker 8>the guys, and that's a great part about being a

930
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.519
<v Speaker 8>part of the exclusination. The fan base fell in love

931
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 8>with the guys that we've had here for three years.

932
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 8>But like I said, that bottom line was a lot

933
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 8>of people like to say we redressed for two years

934
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.960
<v Speaker 8>maybe or started at the end of three and now

935
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 8>so you know, we wound.

936
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 7>Up four and eight last year, So how much.

937
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 8>Do you want throwose guys back?

938
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:30.960
<v Speaker 7>You know?

939
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 8>So, But I do think But the one thing I

940
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.320
<v Speaker 8>do love is that the places we lost people, we

941
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 8>are addressing it through the transfer portal and through the

942
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.119
<v Speaker 8>signing day. So I'm not really the same. I'm kind

943
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 8>of eager and I think the one thing you can

944
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 8>hang your hat on if you if you're an avid fan,

945
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 8>is that we're now We're back where we were five, six,

946
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 8>seven years ago. Nobody knew who Josh Allen was when

947
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 8>he first took his first couple of snaps. Benny Snell

948
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 8>kind of knew because he was from Ohio, but he

949
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 8>wasn't It wasn't even really a huge named Chris Rohreenez.

950
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 8>Some of these guys who went down those legends, they

951
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 8>didn't come in here with the names of Tim Couch,

952
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 8>Derrick Johnson and you know, some of the big and

953
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.480
<v Speaker 8>Micah Johnson. So you know, I think I'm more eager

954
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 8>and interested this year knowing that we're getting guys in

955
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:18.199
<v Speaker 8>here that we know we can play. It reminds me

956
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 8>of twenty seventeen against twenty sixteen seventeen be where we

957
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 8>get to see the thing bill back up.

958
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:27.119
<v Speaker 3>That's a great point because, as well know, Josh Allen

959
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.559
<v Speaker 3>was an All state player in Alabama and when he

960
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 3>moved to New Jersey, slipped through the cracks, had only

961
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Montclair State offering in before Kentucky jumped on him. Benny

962
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Snell was rated the number twenty six player not in

963
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:43.079
<v Speaker 3>the country in the state of Ohio, your home state

964
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 3>when he signed with Kentucky. But he came here confident

965
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 3>of what he could do, so did Josh. So maybe

966
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 3>we'll see more of that. We're talking with Anthony White.

967
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:54.039
<v Speaker 3>He is, of course in the Kentucky record book, is

968
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 3>one of the best ball catching running backs that Kentucky

969
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 3>has ever had. A favorite target of him Couch. You

970
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.320
<v Speaker 3>hear him co hosting Sunday Morning Sports Talk on this

971
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.760
<v Speaker 3>very radio station, and as he mentioned, the Locker four

972
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 3>to one one podcast on Wednesday nights with our man

973
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Van Hiles. We'll come back and talk more football and

974
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 3>a little basketball with Anthony White after the break here

975
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 3>on six point thirty, we'll come back. We're talking with

976
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Anthony White, the co host of Sunday Morning Sports Talk,

977
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 3>former football wildcat. I'm not pointing the finger at any

978
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 3>one or two guys, but I firmly believe that the

979
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 3>problems this program had on the field now stemmed from

980
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 3>the offensive line. It has not yet gotten back, and

981
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it ever will to the classic,

982
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, big blue wall status. But I just think

983
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 3>there have been such struggles both with continuity and the

984
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 3>coaching staff, and with the players coming and going and

985
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 3>some guys injured and trying to plug the right guys

986
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.719
<v Speaker 3>in and people changing positions. I mean, you know, it

987
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 3>all starts.

988
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 8>With the old line, right, yeah, And that is my

989
00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 8>biggest concern and a whole stoops of a dress. And

990
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.840
<v Speaker 8>it the one thing I have seen throughout my playing

991
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.559
<v Speaker 8>career with some coaches is guys have better relationships that

992
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 8>you know they're always gonna be friends the rest of

993
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 8>their life, but not right now. You know, you got

994
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 8>a job to do. Everybody has a job to do,

995
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.559
<v Speaker 8>and it doesn't seem like the offensive line is really

996
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 8>jailing with the new office line. Coach, I don't think

997
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 8>they jailed the first time he was here. I mean,

998
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.599
<v Speaker 8>I mean, just to be quite frank, and I said,

999
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 8>he must be really good. He keeps getting jobs. He's

1000
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.079
<v Speaker 8>been in the NFL, he's been a lot of different places.

1001
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 8>For whatever it is. There's some kind of block between

1002
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 8>the office line taking the assignments and carry them out,

1003
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.920
<v Speaker 8>and you know, you get talking about injuries and things.

1004
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 8>And this offensive line was built under John Slarman with

1005
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:43.239
<v Speaker 8>playing seven or eight guys, so one you take a

1006
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 8>fatigue factor away. Guys don't get his injured if they're

1007
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 8>not on the fielders, but they're.

1008
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 7>Fresh a little bit more.

1009
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 8>And this is grueling league in the trenches. So that

1010
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.000
<v Speaker 8>was the first thing I noticed the first go around

1011
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 8>was that he wasn't into the rotating of players. So

1012
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.199
<v Speaker 8>every year you're kind of starting over fresh. But I

1013
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.719
<v Speaker 8>will tell you this we talked about on Wednesday. I'll

1014
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 8>stay this about the offense line. And this is more

1015
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 8>of a bigger problem I think than the teaching in

1016
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 8>the room or just reception of the teaching in the room,

1017
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 8>is we've been turning over offensive line in the portal

1018
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 8>two and three offense line in a year, believe it

1019
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 8>or coming. The problem I have with that and it's unsustainable.

1020
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 8>We got the last three office line and I think

1021
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 8>we're at least two schools. This was the third school

1022
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.440
<v Speaker 8>for at least three of them. One year, you at

1023
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.599
<v Speaker 8>a school, you go to another school, you're at that school,

1024
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 8>you go to another school. You do realize in order

1025
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 8>for you to get the continuity down, or understand the playbooker,

1026
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.280
<v Speaker 8>or to get even in your coach's vision on what

1027
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.880
<v Speaker 8>they have for you next year, you have to stay

1028
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 8>somewhere in two years. And I think that is really

1029
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 8>hurting us because all these guys we're bringing in has

1030
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 8>already been somewhere else, not just one place and playing

1031
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 8>to stay here two years, work through the grind, learn

1032
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 8>to playbook, pick up coaching style of coaching. No, we

1033
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 8>bring in guys in who's been to two or three

1034
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:01.559
<v Speaker 8>different places. They stay here, don't get don't really pick

1035
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 8>it up. They get an opportunity because all the new

1036
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 8>guys get an opportunity to start, and they lose their

1037
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 8>starting position, then they go somewhere else. And I think

1038
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:10.679
<v Speaker 8>that is the biggest problem with our office line. We

1039
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 8>don't have any continuity, as you stated, at the coaching

1040
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.960
<v Speaker 8>position or as the players. But the worst part is

1041
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 8>even if we bring in a junior or a senior

1042
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 8>that has maybe an.

1043
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.000
<v Speaker 7>Extra year left that let's let's keep them for two years.

1044
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 8>So we know coming back what we can expect for you.

1045
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 8>So flipping this thing every year, And I think that's

1046
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 8>the biggest.

1047
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 7>Problem up front.

1048
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's assuming they could play. I mean, if a

1049
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:36.599
<v Speaker 3>guy is not good enough to compete in the sec hey,

1050
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 3>we got our guys back. Yeah, so we got a

1051
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 3>few minutes left with Anthony Wody. I want to shift

1052
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.559
<v Speaker 3>over to basketball because you talk about everything on Sunday

1053
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Morning Sports Talk. Just real quickly, your take on what

1054
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 3>we saw from Mark Pope's team down in start fille Man,

1055
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 3>because that was a kind of not just the result,

1056
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 3>but the effort they needed and I think that the

1057
00:56:57.960 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 3>big New nation needed to see.

1058
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:03.360
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we like to see. I mean, the thing about

1059
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.360
<v Speaker 8>it reminds me. I keep going back to you wanting

1060
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.559
<v Speaker 8>to stay when he played, and that ninety six team

1061
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.039
<v Speaker 8>is just more talented. They were gonna beat anybody. And

1062
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 8>I keep relating to that ninety eight team, which he

1063
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 8>was not on. But that's exactly what reminds me of

1064
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:18.440
<v Speaker 8>you know who, Jackson Robinson's the catching flat the past

1065
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 8>couple of weeks. You know he takes he may take

1066
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.639
<v Speaker 8>seven eight minutes off Da da da dah. He's not

1067
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:25.800
<v Speaker 8>what he was built up to be. The guy could score,

1068
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.159
<v Speaker 8>the guy could just flat out play balls. Why Pope

1069
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 8>brought him, brought him in with us, But you know

1070
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 8>he was catching, he was catching. Heck, Jack Pilbrim told

1071
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 8>me he stayed after after the game before I believe

1072
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 8>it was Georgia, he stayed after and uh, oh no, no,

1073
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 8>the last home game they had before they before they

1074
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 8>went to Georgia, right and uh Jackson Robson. I was

1075
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 8>happy to see him have a really big game.

1076
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1077
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 8>Lord, they needed him, they needed and he came through.

1078
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 8>And that's the thing I love about this team. He

1079
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 8>has a nice rotation. Uh, you never know who the

1080
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 8>player of the game is gonna be each week. The

1081
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 8>guys are getting unselfish and it's scary thing though. Gave

1082
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 8>us that they're just now really starting to believe in Pope.

1083
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 8>They're not playing that one on one ball. They're not

1084
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 8>playing ice oball. When things get tough, everybody wants to

1085
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.320
<v Speaker 8>go a coach I'm gonna favor and he just telling

1086
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 8>them they live in this moment. Just do what I

1087
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 8>say and live in this moment. And you can tell

1088
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 8>that they're starting to when things get rough, they're starting

1089
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 8>to lean on him more than they're on their own

1090
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.519
<v Speaker 8>one on one field. And that's what's making it really

1091
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 8>interesting for me. You know, we ain't we ain't been

1092
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 8>very successful in March, but if we keep trending in

1093
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.960
<v Speaker 8>this direction, I think it's gonna be exciting.

1094
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 3>You also had some conversations on at ex or Twitter

1095
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 3>or whatever you want to call it. How about John

1096
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Caliperi And it's amazing to me how quickly Arkansas fans,

1097
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Kentucky fans may snipe a little bit, but buddy,

1098
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.800
<v Speaker 3>if you seen these Arkansas fans already all over Cali Perry.

1099
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.280
<v Speaker 3>And he's another guy to rebuild from the ground up.

1100
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when cal first came here, though it was at

1101
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 8>twenty ten. When he first came here, he pretty much,

1102
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 8>you know, came in instantly successful. You know, that's quality

1103
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 8>brought in with cousins Wall and Bled so on those guys.

1104
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's what they were expecting there. But

1105
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 8>I think I think the world has caught up with Calv.

1106
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 8>I think they know his game. I think they know

1107
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.000
<v Speaker 8>his antiquas. I think they know, you know, what he's about.

1108
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:21.119
<v Speaker 8>And I think our fan base may have been right

1109
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 8>that that Calv may have you know, as time may

1110
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 8>have worn out here just because you know, we want

1111
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 8>to go into Mark. We don't want to have exciting basketball.

1112
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 8>And that is where my argument started on Twitter, was

1113
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.400
<v Speaker 8>that the fan base was loved it when cal was exciting,

1114
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:40.360
<v Speaker 8>but we weren't winning tournament games. And you know, we

1115
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 8>finally got a new coach, but cal was not willing

1116
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 8>to change his philosophy. Right, stoops, you love the excitement

1117
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:50.360
<v Speaker 8>we had with Benny Snell, Chris Rodriguez and all those guys,

1118
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 8>Lin Bolden, And now it's kind of stealing out because

1119
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.519
<v Speaker 8>in il and guy's not working his hard and he's

1120
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 8>cleaning ship doing what you all wanted. Wanted to change philosophies,

1121
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 8>which you all wanted Calipari to do. So it's working

1122
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 8>out that we changed the CALIBERI So I'm kind of

1123
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.920
<v Speaker 8>scared for I'm kind of scared for suits that if

1124
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 8>this thing gets any better for Pope, they might start saying.

1125
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.199
<v Speaker 7>Look how I worked for some basketball. Let's just start

1126
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:18.159
<v Speaker 7>over news. So a little care for that.

1127
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, and in this day and age, man was roster turnover.

1128
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 3>You know you're and and yeah, that's the other thing too,

1129
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 3>is Pope's gonna have to rebuild somewhat next year too,

1130
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:31.880
<v Speaker 3>depending on who's got eligibility coming back.

1131
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1132
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 8>The thing about Pope, though, he's plugging play man. Like

1133
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 8>I said, none of these guys have played together these

1134
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 8>some of these guys are six man's on their team

1135
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 8>and their starters here in the SEC, which is a

1136
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:46.039
<v Speaker 8>tough conference. This year we had getting we played with five.

1137
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 8>This will be our five or fifth Top fifteen game,

1138
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.960
<v Speaker 8>and probably not even the first third of the season.

1139
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 8>So I'm not worried about him getting the guys in

1140
01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.079
<v Speaker 8>the running system because I think his system runs itself.

1141
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.960
<v Speaker 7>It's for a lost. He talks to basketball, he.

1142
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 8>Gets you to understand basketball, he breaks it down into

1143
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 8>chewable chunks. So I think he's gonna get the best

1144
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:11.000
<v Speaker 8>talent because we're Kentucky. You couple that with his philosophies

1145
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:15.039
<v Speaker 8>and his coaching style. I'm not concerned about any turnover

1146
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.199
<v Speaker 8>that we may have next year.

1147
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:18.719
<v Speaker 3>You can hear Anthony White on this very radio station

1148
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 3>every Sunday morning on Sunday Morning Sports Talk with Larry

1149
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.639
<v Speaker 3>Vaud and the Gang, and of course on Wednesday nights

1150
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.920
<v Speaker 3>on the Locker for One one with Van Hiles. The

1151
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.480
<v Speaker 3>podcast very entertaining and be always a pleasure. Thank you, Sarah.

1152
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.480
<v Speaker 8>We'll talk to you soon, all right, man, I think

1153
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 8>you appreciate it.

1154
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore next on six point thirty

1155
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.599
<v Speaker 3>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moonsighter. As promised, our

1156
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Western Bureau chief. We are back on a Wednesday. Gary

1157
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Moore joined us from the other end of I sixty four.

1158
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 3>And it might be freezing cold, but you've got some

1159
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 3>hot takes.

1160
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 4>I know I do with two guys in six pack. Hey,

1161
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.079
<v Speaker 4>what's the windshill like over there in the garage?

1162
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Is in the garage? It's not great, but I've got

1163
01:01:58.440 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 3>the space heater going.

1164
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Are those are those fur ear muffs on unit? Or

1165
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 4>is that a headphone? That's the sort of thermal that

1166
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 4>you got on there.

1167
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 3>You know what, when I'm doing sidelines radio football, those

1168
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 3>headphones go a long way keep my ears warm.

1169
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 4>That's right, they sure do. Well, let's get into this

1170
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.400
<v Speaker 4>first sip on the six pack. Dick is former Kentucky

1171
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.639
<v Speaker 4>Wildcat and Basketball Hall of Famer. Pat Riley said many

1172
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 4>times as coach of the Lakers, and often to me

1173
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 4>when I was covering the team out there no rebounds,

1174
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 4>no rings, which is true. You can also add no

1175
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 4>rebounding after a loss, no rings, And right now Mark

1176
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:37.280
<v Speaker 4>Pope's Cats eighth RNGTH fourteen and three overall are rebounding

1177
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 4>in both ways. For example, Cats lose at Clemson, win

1178
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:43.159
<v Speaker 4>the next game on the road, versus number seven Gonzaga,

1179
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Cats lose. Ohio State win the next two, including at home.

1180
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:48.679
<v Speaker 4>I guess number six Florida, we could go. They lose

1181
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 4>at Georgia. Four days later, what happens? They win at

1182
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:55.519
<v Speaker 4>number fourteen Mississippi State, continuing to win last night over

1183
01:02:55.559 --> 01:03:00.119
<v Speaker 4>a tough number eleven Texas Agricultural and Mechanical School eight

1184
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 4>won to sixty nine five wins over an AP top

1185
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:06.199
<v Speaker 4>fifteen team. If you talked about best record in America

1186
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 4>with that, and on Saturday, number four Bama Rup High

1187
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Noon tied number one offense in the SEC ninety one

1188
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 4>points a game, Cats right behind the second place with

1189
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:17.159
<v Speaker 4>eighty nine points a game. Are we in for another

1190
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and six hundred ball burner like the Florida game?

1191
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:20.559
<v Speaker 7>Dick?

1192
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 4>Do you think on Saturday?

1193
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:21.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1194
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I would think so yeah. And kudos for the for

1195
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 3>the name draw pat Riley and you've you've mentioned that

1196
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 3>before covering the Lakers, you had a chance more than

1197
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 3>once to chat with him. I mentioned the fact that

1198
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 3>he didn't say it to me directly, but John Wooden

1199
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 3>used to say that, I mean, earlier in his career

1200
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.320
<v Speaker 3>that rebounds he thought were the most important stat in

1201
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 3>the game. No, he changed it later on, kind of

1202
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 3>moved that to number two in his list behind shooting percentages.

1203
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 3>But it told you just how how vital he believed

1204
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 3>rebounding was. So that's something we got to keep an

1205
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 3>eye on for the rest of the year.

1206
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.440
<v Speaker 4>As well as assists. That assist ratio last night was

1207
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 4>something else else. Nineteen to four.

1208
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah over the Cats. Yeah, it's sister turnover plus assists

1209
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:08.440
<v Speaker 3>on made baskets. I think that's what impresses opposing coaches

1210
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 3>the most.

1211
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Second Swig in the six packs, speaking Mark Pope, you've

1212
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.039
<v Speaker 4>covered Mark from all of his days playing for the

1213
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Cats as well as a coach. Can you imagine Mark

1214
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 4>saying after say, I don't know, losing to Georgia or

1215
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.639
<v Speaker 4>somebody sec saying this in public, Well, we're soft, so

1216
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.960
<v Speaker 4>don't tell me you want to win. It's really hard

1217
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 4>to coach people who are delusional. We got guys that

1218
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.039
<v Speaker 4>think they're better than they are. Nice kids, completely delusional

1219
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 4>about who they are. Unquote. That, of course, was what

1220
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.960
<v Speaker 4>former Murray State and Cincinnati head coaching current UCLA coach

1221
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.639
<v Speaker 4>Mick Cronin said about his Bruins after they were blown

1222
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 4>out at home by Michigan last week, and how did

1223
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 4>the team respond after that, getting blown out at Maryland

1224
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:54.920
<v Speaker 4>by eighteen, complete with Cronin's ejection, then losing Monday at

1225
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 4>crummy eight and eight Rutgers by seven. You can see

1226
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.480
<v Speaker 4>what he's trying to do, at least I can or

1227
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 4>who he's trying to emulate. His mentor and apparent idol

1228
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:08.159
<v Speaker 4>of player abuse, Ricky Patino. Hey, we know Patino. Patino

1229
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:12.079
<v Speaker 4>has rings. Mick Cronin. You're no Patino and you may

1230
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.599
<v Speaker 4>not be a UCLA head coach much longer if that

1231
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 4>keeps up.

1232
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And in fact, somebody told me I wondered was

1233
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Mick Cronin in the mix when louisvill was looking for

1234
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:24.719
<v Speaker 3>a coach And somebody who covers the program said it

1235
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 3>says understanding he was not. And this was well before

1236
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.760
<v Speaker 3>these comments made their way to the public, but it

1237
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:38.760
<v Speaker 3>was because of that sort of coaching style. And yeah, Patino, listen,

1238
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I've heard the stories from Cameron Mills for years. I've

1239
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:44.559
<v Speaker 3>heard him from Sean Woods. I've heard him just about

1240
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:50.559
<v Speaker 3>with the way Patino could just level a kid, but rarely,

1241
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 3>if ever, did it in public. Right, you know, he

1242
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.079
<v Speaker 3>might have said things in general as a team, we

1243
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:58.880
<v Speaker 3>got to do this or that. But you've got to

1244
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.760
<v Speaker 3>wonder would that not have just played better privately in

1245
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:06.280
<v Speaker 3>the locker room as opposed and clearly as you pointed out,

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01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:09.039
<v Speaker 3>they didn't respond the way he had hoped. So now

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01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 3>you got to wonder as well, Gary, has he lost

1248
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:12.480
<v Speaker 3>that team?

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01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, if they're soft and delusional, who recruited them and

1250
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:16.960
<v Speaker 4>who coaches them?

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01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Third swig and six pack. One last Kentucky basketball note.

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01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 4>I've been paying much attention to the NBA. College hoops

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01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.960
<v Speaker 4>always get more of my attention priority wise this time

1255
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:28.880
<v Speaker 4>of year for me, But I got to wondering how

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01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Reed Shepherd and Oscar Shebwey are doing lately in the

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01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:34.519
<v Speaker 4>pros read of course, third overall pick in last year's

1258
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:37.639
<v Speaker 4>draft by Houston wasn't getting much of any playing time

1259
01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:39.159
<v Speaker 4>for the Rockets, so they sent him to their G

1260
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.079
<v Speaker 4>League team, Rio Grand Valley Vipers, three hundred and thirty

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01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 4>seven miles south of Houston near the Mexican border. All

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01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 4>Reid did was playing all of three games, average thirty

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01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 4>point seven points eight assists, was the G League Player

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01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.000
<v Speaker 4>of the week, so they called him back up, and

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01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.119
<v Speaker 4>of course he doesn't play against Memphis on Monday, but

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<v Speaker 4>maybe tonight in Denver. That's on tap as for Oscar

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01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.159
<v Speaker 4>reserve on a crummy ten and twenty eight Utah Jazz team.

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<v Speaker 4>But at least he's there in the Association, averaging three

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01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.679
<v Speaker 4>point seven boards off the bench, get three and five

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01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:12.280
<v Speaker 4>on Sunday in the win against equally lousy Brooklyn. He

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01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:14.199
<v Speaker 4>may get to see more action to night they're playing

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01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:17.559
<v Speaker 4>a home against the eight and twenty eight Hornets. By

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01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:20.400
<v Speaker 4>the way, Oscar averaged fourteen point six points, seventeen and

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01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:22.960
<v Speaker 4>a half boards in sixteen g League games this year,

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01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 4>so he did about all he could do as well

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01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:28.960
<v Speaker 4>down there. Oscar second year in the Association obviously reads

1277
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 4>a rookie, but each one of them brings something valuable

1278
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:34.159
<v Speaker 4>that can complete an NBA team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the problem is getting that team, or those respective

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01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:42.239
<v Speaker 3>teams to the point where she Way can take them

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01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:44.360
<v Speaker 3>to another level, read can take them to I'm not

1282
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.320
<v Speaker 3>saying a lofty level. I'm just saying, as you point out,

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01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 3>getting them past where they need to be. You like

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01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Reid's chances better just because of what the league has

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01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:59.039
<v Speaker 3>turned into in terms of three point shooting. But the

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01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:01.880
<v Speaker 3>fact that Oscar had trouble hanging on in the league

1287
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:06.039
<v Speaker 3>despite at one point averaging twenty rebounds a game in

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01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 3>the G League tells you where they where the NBA

1289
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:10.960
<v Speaker 3>is now and how they don't put as much of

1290
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:16.199
<v Speaker 3>a premium on low post play. Apparently he is. I

1291
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.520
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen him play but expanding his offensive game, which

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01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.039
<v Speaker 3>I think held him back at Kentucky because he camped

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01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 3>out under the rim. Yeah, but he's got to be

1294
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:27.279
<v Speaker 3>able to play a little bit facing the basket, which

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01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:29.560
<v Speaker 3>he could a little bit of Kentucky. But you got

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01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 3>a root for a guy like that.

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01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Oscar can find a three point shot somewhere in there.

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01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Hey, de Marcus Cousins, did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah see forth swig in the six pack one month ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Last night, Dick, you were there December fourteenth, Louisville lost

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01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.680
<v Speaker 4>to then number five Kentucky ninety three to eighty five.

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01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.359
<v Speaker 4>And guess what the Cards have not lost since that night.

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01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Last night, UFL won their second road game in four days,

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01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 4>eighty five sixty one at Syracuse, the greatest win ever,

1305
01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:58.840
<v Speaker 4>by the way what used to be the Carrier Dome.

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01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 4>That's seven wins in a row. For Louisville, and of

1307
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.479
<v Speaker 4>course the ACC this year is about as unimpressive as

1308
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 4>the SEC is impressive. But with Duke and Carolina and

1309
01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Clemson all out of the way and in the rear view,

1310
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 4>the Cards have no ranked teams so far. Anyway ahead

1311
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.000
<v Speaker 4>on their schedule, they're going to go for eight in

1312
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:19.600
<v Speaker 4>a row Saturday against VIRGINNY high noon over here at

1313
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:22.359
<v Speaker 4>the on ESPN two. That's same obviously tip off time

1314
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 4>for the Cats and Bama on original strength ESPN Cards

1315
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 4>are now thirteen and five favorites again on Saturday. Is

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01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.439
<v Speaker 4>it safe to say, Dick Gabriel that U of L's

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01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 4>basketball program is back well.

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<v Speaker 3>For right now? Relatively speaking, yes, compared to where it

1319
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:43.680
<v Speaker 3>was last year. That's not really a fair comparison. I

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01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's fair to see it's all the way

1321
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:49.720
<v Speaker 3>back yet, because that's a championship level program. But to

1322
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:54.479
<v Speaker 3>your point, schedule favors them. We've already beaten Virginia in Virginia,

1323
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:56.640
<v Speaker 3>so they know they can beat that team. But against

1324
01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Virginia's got something to proved. But the important thing is, yeah, look,

1325
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:02.800
<v Speaker 3>my brother watched the game and text me said, Syracuse

1326
01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:06.119
<v Speaker 3>is awful, But Yeah, they won at the Dome. That's

1327
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.720
<v Speaker 3>a long road trip, brother, and that's a tough place

1328
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 3>to play. They recorded or reported seventeen four hundred whatever,

1329
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:17.680
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't the case up there, but it's still a

1330
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:21.640
<v Speaker 3>really difficult place to play and win. And I just

1331
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 3>think I don't care how many people were there. The

1332
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 3>fact that they won on the road. That's a huge

1333
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:27.359
<v Speaker 3>step for U of L, no question.

1334
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:28.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like when they went to Virginia.

1335
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Both.

1336
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, they've always been traditionally a tough place to play

1337
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:34.520
<v Speaker 4>for the Cardinals, Syracuse in Virginia, and that's not.

1338
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.279
<v Speaker 3>A huge arena, but it's an intimate place. It ain't

1339
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:42.119
<v Speaker 3>exactly Duke, but it is a tough place to play.

1340
01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:43.119
<v Speaker 3>And the fans show.

1341
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Up fifth Swig and the six pack onto the NFL

1342
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 4>and the college Championship and our picks for those games.

1343
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:54.399
<v Speaker 4>But quick question for you, what do the Ravens, Eagles, Commanders, Bucks, Packers,

1344
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:58.239
<v Speaker 4>and Lions all have in common this season? Besides making

1345
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 4>the postseason? I'll tell you what. They're the top six

1346
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:05.840
<v Speaker 4>rushing teams in the NFL, including mobile quarterbacks. Conversely, what

1347
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 4>do the Raiders, Jets, Bengals, Brown, Seahawks and Cowboys all

1348
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 4>have in common. Besides not making the postseason. There are

1349
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:16.920
<v Speaker 4>the six worst rushing teams this year, all with fairly

1350
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 4>stationary quarterbacks. Look, you run the ball well, you're dominating

1351
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.239
<v Speaker 4>the line, and when you dominate the line, you almost

1352
01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:27.039
<v Speaker 4>always win. It's a simple formula. So take that. Geniuses

1353
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.960
<v Speaker 4>on Draft Day on all the cable channels who say, well,

1354
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:31.479
<v Speaker 4>running backs are overvalued.

1355
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Wrong.

1356
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:36.800
<v Speaker 4>Now on Saturday, four point thirty ABC, Texans eight and

1357
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:39.479
<v Speaker 4>a half point underdogs at Kansas City, I'll take the Chiefs.

1358
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.800
<v Speaker 4>And then the nightcap eight pm on Fox. Oh no,

1359
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:47.800
<v Speaker 4>we gotta get Brady again. Commanders at the Lions. In fact,

1360
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.319
<v Speaker 4>we get them through the Super Bowl, then he'll be gone, hopefully.

1361
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.560
<v Speaker 4>Commanders at the Lions Detroit nine half point favorites, give

1362
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.720
<v Speaker 4>me the Kings of the Beasts. And that one Sunday,

1363
01:11:55.760 --> 01:12:00.039
<v Speaker 4>three o'clock NBC Rams six point underdogs at Philly. I

1364
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:01.880
<v Speaker 4>got the Eggs on this one, but I will not

1365
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:04.079
<v Speaker 4>be surprised that the resilient Rams do something for their

1366
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:07.760
<v Speaker 4>wounded city again. And six point thirty on the CBS.

1367
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:10.279
<v Speaker 4>The Ravens are a point underdog at Buffalo, but I'm

1368
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.119
<v Speaker 4>gonna take La Marvelous and Balmer on that one, and

1369
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.279
<v Speaker 4>then on Monday night, I'm gonna be rooting for the Irish.

1370
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:18.079
<v Speaker 4>But if I'm betting money, if I had dough, I

1371
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:20.439
<v Speaker 4>would say I'm gonna take the eight point favorites of

1372
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Ohio State.

1373
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I agree on the college game, I'm gonna take Buffalo.

1374
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:28.119
<v Speaker 3>I'll go against you on the Ravens just because I

1375
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 3>just think they've been sitting on this game. I agree

1376
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.039
<v Speaker 3>on the Lions, and I agree on Philly. But I

1377
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.920
<v Speaker 3>say Kansas City wins, but doesn't cover why, because it's

1378
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:39.720
<v Speaker 3>been happening all year. Yeah, Ana City has been winning,

1379
01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:43.159
<v Speaker 3>but winning somehow the close games. I don't know if

1380
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.000
<v Speaker 3>it can hang on to that case going into the

1381
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl, but it's amazing the way to keep finding

1382
01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:49.720
<v Speaker 3>ways to win.

1383
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.479
<v Speaker 4>Sixth and final swig. You know we open the night

1384
01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:56.880
<v Speaker 4>talking about UK rebounding after losses. If any county in

1385
01:12:57.039 --> 01:13:01.720
<v Speaker 4>state can rebound after horrendous weather losses, I say it's

1386
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:05.439
<v Speaker 4>La County and California in general. I know because, as

1387
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, I've lived half my life out there over

1388
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:10.800
<v Speaker 4>three decades as your West Coast Bureau chief. In fact,

1389
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:13.720
<v Speaker 4>for seven years I lived just a few blocks away

1390
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 4>from Pacific Palisades, and for two years just down Lake

1391
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Avenue from Altadena, not too far from the Rose Bowl

1392
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 4>as well. I lived through the ninety four Northridge earthquake

1393
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.279
<v Speaker 4>you may remember, thirty one years ago this Friday, by

1394
01:13:26.319 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 4>the way, plus more Malibu and Metro LA fires, and

1395
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.920
<v Speaker 4>I can remember, not to mention all those in northern

1396
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 4>California and south of LA. Point is like right here

1397
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:38.039
<v Speaker 4>in Louisville in nineteen seventy four, and like the folks

1398
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:41.520
<v Speaker 4>in Mayfield and Bowling Green and elsewhere. After all those tornadoes,

1399
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.319
<v Speaker 4>people in California are good at picking themselves up, dusting off,

1400
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.640
<v Speaker 4>and rebuilding. Only this time I think the lifting up

1401
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:51.520
<v Speaker 4>may be the heaviest yet. But think about it, with

1402
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.520
<v Speaker 4>events like World Cup Soccer and Super Bowl and the

1403
01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.279
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty eight Olympics all in the rise in sports wise,

1404
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:00.319
<v Speaker 4>don't bet against LA and the Golden State.

1405
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:04.199
<v Speaker 3>No, I agree. I think the biggest thing holding them

1406
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 3>back are the politicians, of course in DC, who are

1407
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:12.840
<v Speaker 3>trying to make this a political I don't know what

1408
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:17.479
<v Speaker 3>the word is, but a political issue, and they shouldn't.

1409
01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 3>This is when everybody's got to pulled together, and we

1410
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:23.479
<v Speaker 3>learned this again from places like Kentucky. They had to

1411
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:27.880
<v Speaker 3>deal with flooding, as you said, and tornadoes, and yeah,

1412
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:29.800
<v Speaker 3>I go back to that seventy four I was a

1413
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.840
<v Speaker 3>freshman at UK. But the famous picture on the cover

1414
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:38.159
<v Speaker 3>of the Courier Journal of Bardstown Road. Somebody snapped the

1415
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 3>picture looking straight down with all that wreckage.

1416
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.079
<v Speaker 4>And their telephone polls all over exactly right.

1417
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Exactly right, and you could see a shop called Royal Typewriter.

1418
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 3>That's why I worked a summer job. Wow. So that

1419
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.159
<v Speaker 3>brought it home for me, and I drove that area many,

1420
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:59.399
<v Speaker 3>many times. So yeah, just could we quit politicizing this

1421
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:02.319
<v Speaker 3>thing and just pull together for a change. I think

1422
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:03.159
<v Speaker 3>that would be fun.

1423
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:05.319
<v Speaker 4>I agree the same deal with what happened in Florida.

1424
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:08.319
<v Speaker 4>You didn't see this kind of political backlash against Florida.

1425
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:10.439
<v Speaker 4>Biden was there saying, Okay, we're gonna get some funds

1426
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.560
<v Speaker 4>down there right away. And now you're hearing all this stuff,

1427
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.640
<v Speaker 4>but well, California's gonna have to do this, and they're no,

1428
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.800
<v Speaker 4>they're not gonna have to do that. Give them the dough.

1429
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.039
<v Speaker 3>We'll take a right come back with hot raids for

1430
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:22.359
<v Speaker 3>our West n Bureau Chief Gary Moore here on the

1431
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Big Bloon Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

1432
01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Big Loon Sider. We're talking with our Western Bureau Chief,

1433
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Gary Moore. You've heard two guys in a six pack

1434
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.239
<v Speaker 3>time now for a couple of hot raids, and this

1435
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 3>has been a story that has made the rounds fairly quickly.

1436
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you saw the video, but an

1437
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Eagles fan spent much of the Eagles win over the

1438
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Packers much of that game belittling and yelling at and

1439
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:52.920
<v Speaker 3>saying crude things to a Packers fan, a female and

1440
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.840
<v Speaker 3>her her husband was next to him, saying, don't talk

1441
01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:58.680
<v Speaker 3>to my wife that way, and it didn't slow him

1442
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 3>down at all. It went viral. This guy has been

1443
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:06.640
<v Speaker 3>banned for life from the Eagles games and fired from

1444
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:12.159
<v Speaker 3>his job. Good because social media is social media, and

1445
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:16.600
<v Speaker 3>he was almost immediately identified, and people even said, here's

1446
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:19.840
<v Speaker 3>his here's where he works, here's who he is, let's

1447
01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 3>make him famous. And I read one place where the

1448
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:26.399
<v Speaker 3>Eagles had a security who was this legendary huge guy

1449
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.239
<v Speaker 3>on the sideline, So bostly he had something to do

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<v Speaker 3>with identifying this dude. But you know Eagle fans. A

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01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.079
<v Speaker 3>friend of mine is an Eagle fan, and he bristles

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<v Speaker 3>at the notion that Eagle fans are worse than others.

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<v Speaker 3>But this doesn't help, does it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it doesn't at all. And I stopped bringing dates

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<v Speaker 4>back in the eighties to NFL games when the Raiders

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01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 4>were out there and well the Rams. The Rams were

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01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:52.800
<v Speaker 4>down in Orange County at the time too. But the

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01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:57.680
<v Speaker 4>crowd is definitely way more aggressive or verbally violent than

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01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.279
<v Speaker 4>at a college game. Totally different vibe. You see, you

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01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.680
<v Speaker 4>and UCLA game games were completely different. But it seems

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<v Speaker 4>like it hasn't changed. In fact, it may have even

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01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:07.920
<v Speaker 4>gotten worse. If this is obviously just a and this

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<v Speaker 4>this is one that was caught on video, however, gets

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<v Speaker 4>yeah everything. Our second hid read for Gary Brittany Mahomes,

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01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:20.399
<v Speaker 4>wife of Patrick, congratulations on their third child.

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<v Speaker 3>She has explained the names. The latest child is named Golden,

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01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:33.079
<v Speaker 3>ray r A y E. The other children are named Patrick, Bronze, Levaughn,

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01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 3>and Sterling Sky. So you got Gold, Sterling, essentially silver

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01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:43.319
<v Speaker 3>and Bronze. Honestly, I think it's kind of cool. But

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<v Speaker 3>on the other hand, if you're bronze now and the

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<v Speaker 3>reason is is, she pointed out, he's Patrick the third,

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<v Speaker 3>which makes sense. But imagine being the third kid, or

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01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.159
<v Speaker 3>being of the three kids. You ain't gold brother, and

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't silver.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in college, metal stand exactly there you go back

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<v Speaker 4>in college, I wanted to have my firstborn son's first

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<v Speaker 4>name Lead, and of course the middle name would be Zeppelin.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why I never I don't have any sons

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<v Speaker 4>that I know of. Second of all, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>something that somebody in Metallica would name their kids, you know, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we got all the medals, we're doing, We're going for

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<v Speaker 4>all the heavy metals. Man, that's crazy, and you think

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01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:25.359
<v Speaker 4>at school they would get made fun of. But there's

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01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:27.560
<v Speaker 4>so many crazy names for kids now at school. If

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<v Speaker 4>you and I like, your name is Gary, kind of

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01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:32.119
<v Speaker 4>weird name is that?

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<v Speaker 3>But the one thing the kid has going for and

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<v Speaker 3>make fun of them, say, my dad at the time

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01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:41.520
<v Speaker 3>has two Super Bowl rings. How you doing? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>That justifies everything? Show them the rings, Show them the rings.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love it. I would have loved it if

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<v Speaker 3>you had a child with a middle name Zeppelin, because

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01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:51.640
<v Speaker 3>you probably would have gone a Zeppo. The most famous

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01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Zeppos and Zeppo Marks.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. Yeah, it never happened, although the life

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01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:57.439
<v Speaker 4>is still young.

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<v Speaker 3>True at uh maybe by Aim.

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<v Speaker 4>That's more likely going to happen to the night I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would say so. He is Gary Mories, our West m

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<v Speaker 3>Bureau chief. Find him, honeymout seek him out on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>x at.

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01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:13.880
<v Speaker 4>At nine five five Gary, that same lovely media joint

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<v Speaker 4>where you're at.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big blue insider one, thank you sir, stay warm,

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01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.399
<v Speaker 3>same at you now. I'll do it for now thanks

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01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:23.359
<v Speaker 3>to Gary, Sean Woods, Anthony White. That's it. Good night

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<v Speaker 3>from the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad guy in a little code, fat guy in a

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<v Speaker 4>little code.

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<v Speaker 3>Dame
