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Speaker 2: He joins this each and every week to talk some
Speaker 2: college football. Really looking forward to that conversation. But before
Speaker 2: we get to that reminder, twenty four hours from now,
Speaker 2: we'll be talking with Pat Kelsey here in Charlotte as
Speaker 2: he has his first acc basketball Media Day appearance. He'll
Speaker 2: have his press conference with all the other coaches, and
Speaker 2: then here's what they do. They each coach has a
Speaker 2: press conference and then they have what's called the breakout rooms,
Speaker 2: where you know, there's this kind of a station where
Speaker 2: you know you're not live, but you can and you
Speaker 2: can video. But you know there's still people who just do.
Speaker 2: In fact, I haven't been to a breakout I'll be
Speaker 2: there tomorrow for it, but it would be a big
Speaker 2: surprise to me if there are people there that are
Speaker 2: like transcribing quotes from players and coaches, Like I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like the old school Capital Jays still do that.
Speaker 2: You know, I used to sit by Tim Sullivan every
Speaker 2: every Louisville basketball game, and you know, everything he did
Speaker 2: would be notes. Now I'm sure he's not, you know,
Speaker 2: just trying to write word for word what somebody is
Speaker 2: saying in an answer. But you know, the players and
Speaker 2: coaches kind of just sit around and I don't know
Speaker 2: how long it lasts, but they're kind of there for
Speaker 2: for a good chunk of of the afternoon seemingly for
Speaker 2: anybody to come up and ask questions and interview them.
Speaker 2: And then uh, then there's Radio Row and that really,
Speaker 2: you know, it really comes down to if you have
Speaker 2: like you know, and let me ask you this, John,
Speaker 2: I know you got to you gotta get Zach on
Speaker 2: the line coming up here soon. But there was at me.
Speaker 2: I know one was from Stanford. Let me see if
Speaker 2: I can find the other one. So because I submitted,
Speaker 2: you know, my credential and I said I wanted to
Speaker 2: be at Radio Row, I got emails from three different
Speaker 2: programs that are bringing a coach and you know obviously
Speaker 2: basketball players here for it, and you know, they're trying
Speaker 2: to coordinate and asking if I if I want to
Speaker 2: have like their players on and I told them no,
Speaker 2: and I kind of feel bad, but like I shouldn't
Speaker 2: feel bad, right.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, unless it's a specific player, Like I
Speaker 3: don't know who offered you or what school it might.
Speaker 2: Have seen Stanford and I think it might stand might
Speaker 2: have been Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: Maybe I could see you wanting to do it, if
Speaker 3: maybe it was Duke and Cooper Flag or something was
Speaker 3: maybe gonna be talking or something like that, because that's
Speaker 3: that's somebody who's more than likely going to be a
Speaker 3: national story the entire year of the college basketball SEASONA
Speaker 3: who wants to I mean, again, this sounds rude. Maybe
Speaker 3: you and I are kind of along the same lines
Speaker 3: of thinking with this, but like nobody at least around
Speaker 3: here probably cares about who Stanford's players are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's kind of when I didn't
Speaker 2: feel bad doing it. But then again, like I don't
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think they They came all the
Speaker 2: way from Stanford, and I'm pretty sure there's not a
Speaker 2: radio crew that wanted to have them on live. And
Speaker 2: it's not because you didn't have anything to do with
Speaker 2: the player. It's just because, you know, a drivetime sports
Speaker 2: radio show in a Louisville, Kentucky market, if we had
Speaker 2: a random Stanford basketball player on for you know, a
Speaker 2: ten minute segment like that would make no sense. And
Speaker 2: there's also and I'm probably gonna do this tomorrow, like
Speaker 2: they'll be you know, probably shouldn't say this, but you
Speaker 2: would know anyway, there's gonna be people that are gonna
Speaker 2: be on the show here and there probably over the
Speaker 2: next two weeks where I'm gonna be recording those conversations
Speaker 2: here tomorrow, like Jeff Goodman's here, I'm gonna see if
Speaker 2: I can get Fanto. I'm gonna see what what his
Speaker 2: price is. I know his price is going up. The
Speaker 2: numbers are going up for Fantic because he's he's got
Speaker 2: the juice right now. But you know, if I did
Speaker 2: that with a player that plays for you know, Miami,
Speaker 2: like I would never why would ever play that on
Speaker 2: the show, Like there would be no re there would
Speaker 2: be no reason for me to to to play that
Speaker 2: because it wouldn't be any you know, it would just
Speaker 2: be you know, hey, this is it sounds so mean,
Speaker 2: but it would just be a waste of time, you know.
Speaker 2: But I mean, obviously I don't say that when I
Speaker 2: respond to them and say, you know, thanks but no thanks.
Speaker 2: But you know, kind of makes me feel bad because
Speaker 2: you know, if you if you come out here and
Speaker 2: you bring players, I'm not even sure players do the
Speaker 2: podium anymore. So if you bring players and they do
Speaker 2: the photo ops and all that, like they'll they'll they'll
Speaker 2: have they'll they'll be interviewed in some capacity. But you know,
Speaker 2: these events just aren't what they once were. And that's
Speaker 2: you know, it's not really anybody's fault. It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: like a lot of things, you know, people evolve, like
Speaker 2: things evolve over time. But I am looking forward tomorrow
Speaker 2: because again, if you heard the first part of the
Speaker 2: show today, the first hour, I should say, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm balancing it. There's two ways to look at it.
Speaker 2: From my perspective as a Louisville fan, it is alarming
Speaker 2: that the ACC is a basketball league, is not even
Speaker 2: close to what it once was. In fact, if you
Speaker 2: didn't have the big brands to prop up just because
Speaker 2: you know, it's Duke, it's Carolina. Like the results specifically,
Speaker 2: like just you know, aren't great and they haven't been,
Speaker 2: and they've been getting worse, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: over the years. It's not been a gradual slow decline.
Speaker 2: It's been actually falling off a cliff. So like that's
Speaker 2: not ideal. However, if you're Pat Kelsey, take advantage of that,
Speaker 2: Like you know, you're gonna take your lumps in the
Speaker 2: non conference, I would assume, because you play so many
Speaker 2: really good teams, but in ACC play you could obviously
Speaker 2: loose to anybody if you don't come ready to play.
Speaker 2: And we don't have a clue how good louis is
Speaker 2: going to because it's all brand new. But I you know,
Speaker 2: I can't be the only one looking at the rest
Speaker 2: of the acc looking at their roster, looking at what
Speaker 2: they bring back. Who's now coaching some of these teams,
Speaker 2: and thinking to myself, you could be a mid team
Speaker 2: and beat these guys. And yes, I know, trust me,
Speaker 2: when I talk bad about the a SEC as a
Speaker 2: basketball league, I'm well aware that you know Louisville has
Speaker 2: been the bottom of that league for the last two years.
Speaker 2: But it's because of one guy who's no longer here anymore,
Speaker 2: and that's Kenny Payne. Like Pat Kelsey could end up
Speaker 2: being a guy that doesn't work out here, he'll still
Speaker 2: be a billion times better than the last guy we had,
Speaker 2: and I think it will work out. I hope it
Speaker 2: will work out with him long term. But you know,
Speaker 2: I know Loolve has been bad the last years. You
Speaker 2: have to remind me, you know, he's not bad. In fact,
Speaker 2: is great. It's Zach Barnett, a FootballScoop dot Com who's
Speaker 2: joining us to talk some college football. Zach, how we
Speaker 2: doing on a Wednesday afternoon?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 4: Doing excellent? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, I'm here in Charlotte. Have you ever
Speaker 2: been to Charlotte, North Carolina?
Speaker 4: I have enjoyed it multiple.
Speaker 2: Times for what football? You know? Is it a vacation destination.
Speaker 2: I'm curious. I got the next twenty four hours here?
Speaker 2: What should I go do?
Speaker 4: We had so I went there's a kid because we
Speaker 4: had family with there at the time. Okay, and then
Speaker 4: I went back there six years ago is when Gus
Speaker 4: Maulson was at Auburn. So the AFCA convention was there.
Speaker 2: That's why I love you, because you you relate times
Speaker 2: in life to when coaches were at certain schools because
Speaker 2: you're a football guy, that's right, you know, Like and
Speaker 2: you think about certain years. You don't think like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: this big historical event happened. You think, oh, no, oh,
Speaker 2: that was the year that Vanderbilt pulled off the upset
Speaker 2: of a lifetime knocking off Alabama in the fall of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Speaking of that, where does that rank
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 4: Time that that upset?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think it's an old timer,
Speaker 2: like I don't know if like there's any analytics that
Speaker 2: show it, but like as far as me watching an
Speaker 2: upset take place, really not believing it was going to
Speaker 2: happen until it did, and really still, you know, took
Speaker 2: a couple of days for me to actually believe that
Speaker 2: what I saw did take place, Like, you know, no
Speaker 2: offense to Andy, but like that's I mean that even
Speaker 2: though Saban's gone like that, I never thought i'd see
Speaker 2: Bama lose to Andy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alabama under Nick Saban became like the default college
Speaker 4: football program for people that don't even know college football,
Speaker 4: Like if you go to if you go to a
Speaker 4: little league baseball field and some parents taking it too seriously,
Speaker 4: they're gonna say, come on, dude, no one here plays
Speaker 4: for the Yankees just because they're the default major league
Speaker 4: baseball team. Alabama has become ubiquitous in that respect, and
Speaker 4: so the default like, let me think of the craziest
Speaker 4: sec upset I could possibly think of, would be the
Speaker 4: lowest school of Vanderbilt over the best school historically Alabama,
Speaker 4: and then that it actually happened, And then it happened
Speaker 4: in such a wild, entertaining way with two fourth and
Speaker 4: one touchdowns at Diego Pavia, such a singular player making
Speaker 4: so many plays. It was you know, historically Stanford over
Speaker 4: USC is bigger by the point spread Delaware State UNLV
Speaker 4: years ago, I believe was it was some HBCU as
Speaker 4: a six touchdown under dog, But those weren't iconic in
Speaker 4: the way that you know, Northern Illinois being Notre damely No,
Speaker 4: people who don't know anything about college football understand the
Speaker 4: magnitude of Northern Illinois beating Notre Dame. People who know
Speaker 4: nothing about this sport understand that Vanderbilt over Alabama is
Speaker 4: gigantic and it was one of the most exciting games
Speaker 4: we've seen so far.
Speaker 2: Can both things be true? Like if they played ten
Speaker 2: times moving forward, Vandy might not win another one and
Speaker 2: it might not be close. But in that game, you know,
Speaker 2: you mentioned those fourth and one touchdowns, But I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like they maintained a level of you know,
Speaker 2: competing with Bama that I feel like, you know, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if they did ten percent. I mean,
Speaker 2: Vandy has improved, but they could have lost by four
Speaker 2: touchdowns and I think you could have still said Clark
Speaker 2: Lee's doing a pretty good job because it's fandy, but
Speaker 2: like I would, I just found myself very impressed that, like,
Speaker 2: throughout the entire game they were you know, they were
Speaker 2: competing and it wasn't flukey in my opinion, Like I
Speaker 2: it's not just that they won, and I don't think
Speaker 2: they'd win many if they played it again, but like,
Speaker 2: outside of just getting the victory, like that was a
Speaker 2: really telling performance I feel like for Clark.
Speaker 4: Lee, yeah, I agree, Vanderbilt never trailed. So are they
Speaker 4: the better team? No? Were they the better team that day?
Speaker 4: Obviously they never trailed, And it wasn't you know, if
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt had had jumped out to some you know, twenty
Speaker 4: eight nothing lead and then held on to win twenty
Speaker 4: eight twenty seven and Alabama missed the field goal at
Speaker 4: the end that would have won it, you'd walked away, say, okay,
Speaker 4: if that game was five minutes longer, it goes the
Speaker 4: other way, or it wasn't some crazy comeback where Alabama
Speaker 4: just you know, so hit the off switch and couldn't
Speaker 4: flip the lights back on. This is the game where
Speaker 4: they went up seven to nothing, got that crazy to
Speaker 4: go up thirteen, but then Alabama would make a surge
Speaker 4: and Vanderbilt would spawned, Alabama would get back within two,
Speaker 4: then Vanderbilt would score. Clearly, Alabama has much better offense
Speaker 4: athletes on offense than Vanderbilt does on defense, so it
Speaker 4: felt like, you know, towards the end, Alabama could score well,
Speaker 4: but Vanderbilt converted it well. They're twelve to eighteen on
Speaker 4: third down. They clearly had an offensive system that Alabama
Speaker 4: was not prepared to defend. And if that game had
Speaker 4: gone another fifteen minutes, I don't think Alabama would have
Speaker 4: been any more likely to get stops on Vanderbilt than
Speaker 4: they were or the first sixty as evidenced by the
Speaker 4: fact that if Alabama gets the ball back in the
Speaker 4: final two twenty eight or whatever it is, they probably
Speaker 4: go score and win the game. But Vanderbilt got got
Speaker 4: every first down they needed and was able to sit
Speaker 4: on the ball, which was just as impressive as any
Speaker 4: of the points they scored.
Speaker 2: I wasn't planning on asking you this question, but now
Speaker 2: that we're talking about it, I mean, isn't Vandy in
Speaker 2: a unique spot to where if they end up, you know,
Speaker 2: finishing with I don't know, five six wins. I mean,
Speaker 2: and they've done that before, but this year their schedule
Speaker 2: is really tough, and they already have a loss at
Speaker 2: Georgia State, a close loss to Missouri that still I
Speaker 2: think looked impressive, though, even though Missouri is clearly not
Speaker 2: as good as the rankings indicated. But like, could Vandy
Speaker 2: lose him? You know, he's clearly at the worst job
Speaker 2: in his league, but it's the best league in the country.
Speaker 2: It's a league that has the ability to pay you
Speaker 2: a lot of money. They are making some investments in
Speaker 2: the program, but like, you know, I don't know. Just again,
Speaker 2: I wasn't even thinking about discussing this, but I think
Speaker 2: it could be you know, if you're a top tier
Speaker 2: program in the Big twelve, or I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: in a mid level job in the Big ten. I
Speaker 2: think you could be very intrigued by this head coach.
Speaker 2: But like for him, you know, like I don't know
Speaker 2: what he would do, and I'm sure you don't know either,
Speaker 2: But just you know, like Vandy losing their coach despite
Speaker 2: not having a lot of wins just sounds like a
Speaker 2: head scratcher. But I think you could you could be
Speaker 2: impressive at Vandy with your record not being any indication
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: I think the likelihood of that happening is very low
Speaker 4: for a couple of reasons. One, I mean, Clark Lee
Speaker 4: is a Vanderbilt alum. He clearly believed dumbass. No. No,
Speaker 4: I think it's a good question because a lot of
Speaker 4: people are probably aren't don't pay A whole lot.
Speaker 2: Of people are dumbasses like me too.
Speaker 4: You're right, Zack, But I mean, he was the defensive
Speaker 4: coordinator of Notre Dame and doing quite well there, and
Speaker 4: could have waited longer and and chosen somewhere else, but
Speaker 4: he he popped on the Vanderbilt job when it opened,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I've heard him speak multiple times
Speaker 4: about how he has a plan to make Vanderbilt football
Speaker 4: the premier college football program in the country. And I
Speaker 4: think he's delusional. But it doesn't matter what I believe.
Speaker 4: I believe that he believes it. So I think he's
Speaker 4: very much in line to be there Pat Fitzgerald without
Speaker 4: the hazing, hopefully. I also think it'd be unlikely that
Speaker 4: someone would go get him because they, I mean, they
Speaker 4: were bad, bad, bad until this season. In that this season,
Speaker 4: he hired Tim Beck from New Mexico State. They're offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: He hired Jerry Kill the head coach in New Mexico State,
Speaker 4: and he obviously brought in Diego Pavia from New Mexico State.
Speaker 4: It was a very much a college basketball, you know,
Speaker 4: type program acquisition that's become more what I assume you
Speaker 4: see in college basketball in the AAU world, all that
Speaker 4: type of stuff that's becoming more common in college football.
Speaker 4: So obviously, as the head coach, your number one job
Speaker 4: is to acquire talent, whether it be coaching or playing talent.
Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to knock clerk Lee in any
Speaker 4: way for bringing those guys in, but there's a clear,
Speaker 4: very clear line of demarcation as to how Vanderbilt got
Speaker 4: to where it did.
Speaker 2: Zach Barnet Football scoop dot Com is our guest joining
Speaker 2: us here on Sports Talk seven ninety talking some college football.
Speaker 2: So right now in the in the updated eight people,
Speaker 2: you've got Texas, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, and then
Speaker 2: George is sitting at number five at four and one
Speaker 2: of the team. There's a handful of teams here that
Speaker 2: I've had some close calls but have yet to take in.
Speaker 2: L Miami's one of them. You know, Penn State's kind
Speaker 2: of taking care of business. But it's been against bad teams.
Speaker 2: Oregon unbeaten, and we actually talked about them last week,
Speaker 2: but they just haven't really looked like the team that
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought they'd be earlier this year.
Speaker 2: Who do you feel like is a team that is,
Speaker 2: you know, right now in position for a playoff spot
Speaker 2: and you you would actually say that as if now,
Speaker 2: with the way you expected to play out, they could
Speaker 2: easily get in, but you're just not buying, like you
Speaker 2: just think, like, man, it'll work out that way just
Speaker 2: because of the schedule and because of you know who
Speaker 2: they play. But they're not you know, they're gonna be
Speaker 2: the They're gonna be the example of oh yeah, we're
Speaker 2: letting twelve teams in. Now, this is a team that
Speaker 2: has no shot of sniffing it. But like, you know,
Speaker 2: they're not there, they're not threat.
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I think, uh. I think Miami,
Speaker 4: if they end up not winning the ACC and get
Speaker 4: in as an at large, that's a team that could
Speaker 4: find themselves in the Final four as a ten seed
Speaker 4: or something like that. And I think that's also a
Speaker 4: team that could get blown out in their first game.
Speaker 4: And we look back and say was this team even
Speaker 4: really that good? I mean, to struggle at home against
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech is one thing. Everyone has a game like that.
Speaker 4: But then to go on the road, and it's obviously
Speaker 4: not easy to go on the road at cross country
Speaker 4: at cal and play at night and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: But to fall behind and then rally like that again
Speaker 4: tells me you you there's some some fraudulents there. Penn State.
Speaker 4: I've a been long on Penn State and Ole Miss
Speaker 4: or Paper Tiger programs. Either one of them could get in.
Speaker 2: Every time I watch them play, I think about you,
Speaker 2: because I think you you bring that point up, and
Speaker 2: nobody else really seems to, at least that I hear
Speaker 2: talk about it. And it's very true. They've not really
Speaker 2: ever won anything that mattered, but you know, they always
Speaker 2: stay in that top twelve range.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when when Ole Miss I'm not an
Speaker 4: AP top twenty five voter, but I voted the super
Speaker 4: sixteen pole and when they lost to Kentucky, I dropped
Speaker 4: them from like number six all the way out and
Speaker 4: they stayed it. They went from like six to twelve
Speaker 4: just because voters are like, well, it's omes and they
Speaker 4: were number six and usually when you lose, you fall
Speaker 4: six or seven spot. It's like this team has accomplished nothing.
Speaker 4: If they lose on Saturday, they'll still accomplish nothing. Their
Speaker 4: best win is South Carolina, and what is South Carolina?
Speaker 4: I have no idea. Same for Penn State. I think
Speaker 4: they're a good team, but what have they really accomplished?
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: And with Penn State, they've had over the years opportunities
Speaker 2: to actually change the mindset of folks like us who realize, yeah,
Speaker 2: they'll go take care of business against who they're supposed
Speaker 2: to beat. But when it comes to a big challenge,
Speaker 2: an opportunity to kind of get a big win, they
Speaker 2: they never get. They never come through. Doesn't mean they're bad,
Speaker 2: it's just, you know, they're just they're kind of just
Speaker 2: slotted in there. But you know, I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: even if you know, even if you're not aware of
Speaker 2: some of the things we've you know that we've discussed,
Speaker 2: you know, really with it's with James Franklin his entire
Speaker 2: time there at Penn State, and really it's with Lane
Speaker 2: Kiffin in this Latin the last few years. But they'll
Speaker 2: be who they're supposed to be for the most part,
Speaker 2: but then when it comes time to like, actually, you know,
Speaker 2: do something of substance, they just they kind of fall short.
Speaker 2: But Zach Barnett is our guest. You're joining us on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven nineties. So, Zach, I think it's safe
Speaker 2: to say the most disappointing team right now in college
Speaker 2: football is Florida State. I mean, they're just an afterthought
Speaker 2: at this point, coming off of an undefeated season in
Speaker 2: the regular season and now they're a joke. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to the biggest surprise team, I mean it
Speaker 2: has to be Indiana. Right. Nobody's saying they're going to
Speaker 2: make the playoff for sure, and everybody's aware of their
Speaker 2: schedule and who they've played, But like even Indiana teams
Speaker 2: that had similar schedules didn't play the way Kurt Signette's
Speaker 2: got these Hoosiers playing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen talk of people talking themselves into Indiana
Speaker 4: actually will make the playoffs. I'm not there.
Speaker 2: But is it more just because of like the scenario,
Speaker 2: the odds scheduling. It's not like people think they're like
Speaker 2: legitimately I don't know. Maybe some people do think they're
Speaker 2: that good. They're dominating whoever they're playing.
Speaker 4: So yeah. I mean, there's three teams in the country
Speaker 4: that are hitting at least seventy percent of their passes
Speaker 4: for at least ten yards per attempt with at least
Speaker 4: fifteen touchdown passes, and it's Miami Texas in Indiana. So
Speaker 4: they're as good passing the football as anyone in the country. Now,
Speaker 4: the best team they've beaten so far is probably at UCLA,
Speaker 4: but they did beat them by more impressive margin than
Speaker 4: allis you did, and everyone thinks ELI who is at
Speaker 4: least decent, so they I believe they have a home game.
Speaker 4: I gets to Nebraska next week. That will tell us
Speaker 4: a lot. And I hope. I love to live in
Speaker 4: a world where Nebraska at Indiana is a college football game.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can say this is my producer. He's
Speaker 2: a big Hoosier and he's he's not just a guy
Speaker 2: who wears the candy strip pants for Indiana basketball, like
Speaker 2: he's an Indiana football fan. Believe it or not, they
Speaker 2: do exist, Zach, and he's I mean, he's been bricked
Speaker 2: up the entire season. Signetti. I mean, this guy I
Speaker 2: find him to be so I mean, it's not like
Speaker 2: he's some wild character. But like I thought it was
Speaker 2: all a gimmick when he came out when he first
Speaker 2: got the job talking about how you know, google me,
Speaker 2: I win, you know, say another team suck. Like he
Speaker 2: wasn't joking. You know, who knows what the future holds.
Speaker 2: I think the future looks good for him at Indiana.
Speaker 2: But like, is he another example of a guy like,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like Kaylen Debor who did have
Speaker 2: a lot of success. It wasn't at a big time
Speaker 2: it wasn't at a big time level. But these are
Speaker 2: coaches that have a formula and they've taken it to
Speaker 2: a higher level and so far it's worked. Like I
Speaker 2: think this this you know, is someone who does really
Speaker 2: appreciate small level college sports. I play junior college basketball briefly.
Speaker 2: Like I love the idea of guys getting a chance
Speaker 2: to climb the ladder and get big opportunities and showing
Speaker 2: that even though you know they didn't they didn't, they
Speaker 2: weren't a coordinator for ten years for an elite program,
Speaker 2: they can still they can still get it done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I I everyone the I win Google
Speaker 4: be quote has made the rounds this year, But I
Speaker 4: personally loved when he went to that basketball game. I'm
Speaker 4: sure John remembers this when he said Ohio State sucks,
Speaker 4: Michigan's Ducks go Indiana.
Speaker 2: Dar Like who says that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, why not what he literally would exactly.
Speaker 2: That's why I thought it was a gimmick, but I
Speaker 2: think he meant it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I hope that ads and search firms take
Speaker 4: notice of this. There's so many good coaches at the
Speaker 4: lower levels, yep, that they can come up and win.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much of being a head coach
Speaker 4: that you can't possibly prepare for until you're in the job.
Speaker 4: And to go get a guy who's done it for
Speaker 4: a decade or at least close to that and and
Speaker 4: learned and failed at that level, rather than the hot
Speaker 4: shot coordinator that doesn't know what he doesn't know. I mean,
Speaker 4: if I'm if I'm Baylor and I'm looking for a
Speaker 4: head coach this year, I'm so much looking for that
Speaker 4: rather than I'm at least taking a hard look at that,
Speaker 4: rather than go get the hot young dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And look, there's so many layers to be in
Speaker 2: a successful head coach, and everybody you know has their
Speaker 2: own style of doing it. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. A coach is a leader, and I think
Speaker 2: if you've been able to lead different programs at different
Speaker 2: levels and still maintain a high level of success, I
Speaker 2: mean that's worth something. Again, doesn't mean that everybody that
Speaker 2: has that on their resume would be able to translate
Speaker 2: and get the results at this level. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think if you're, if you're, Baylor's the perfect kind
Speaker 2: of program. But you know, maybe they can go get
Speaker 2: a big name coordinator or a retread higher. But like,
Speaker 2: I think Signetti is certainly one of the many coaches
Speaker 2: in recent years that I feel like has given the
Speaker 2: other guys who were at that lower level now more
Speaker 2: of a you know, a chance to at least get
Speaker 2: a look. You know, college sports is so much you know,
Speaker 2: pro sports now, but like I don't know something about
Speaker 2: those guys who clearly, you know, have have not that
Speaker 2: long ago. We're at the lowest level where not a
Speaker 2: lot of scholarships to go around, and not on TV
Speaker 2: every week, and you know, it's kind of wholesome. Our
Speaker 2: last question for you, Zach, this whole talk to me
Speaker 2: about this Rudy, the Rudy rule that that this Disney,
Speaker 2: these former Disney executives are putting out there. I mean,
Speaker 2: is this just the desperation attempt to kind of make
Speaker 2: it seem as if, in fact, the Big ten and
Speaker 2: the SEC do create their own thing that everybody else
Speaker 2: is going to be okay.
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I haven't dug super deep
Speaker 4: into it because it just seems so stupid and such
Speaker 4: a time. Thank you.
Speaker 2: We're on the same page.
Speaker 4: Like the is it the ruty one? There's one that's
Speaker 4: the rudy thing, and then there's the one that's like
Speaker 4: the college students, right, yeah, one of them, the College
Speaker 4: Sports Tomorrow one. I remember basically taking crumpling it up,
Speaker 4: the digital piece of paper it was written on and
Speaker 4: throwing it into my digital waste basket. When their plan
Speaker 4: for the transfer portal was We're going to have one
Speaker 4: window in February and another in March, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: So if I want to get in the portal, I
Speaker 4: basically can't be enrolled in college and I can't go
Speaker 4: through spring football because if I how am I going
Speaker 4: to transfer from Louisville to Indiana if I'm in If
Speaker 4: I can't if I'm doing spring practice at Louisville, it
Speaker 4: just made no sense. It clear they'd put no effort
Speaker 4: into it. And then one of them has you know,
Speaker 4: we're gonna split everyone geographically, so it makes sense. But
Speaker 4: at the same time, we're gonna force Texas in Oklahoma,
Speaker 4: Texas back into the Southwest Conference and Alabama and Georgia
Speaker 4: are gonna be in different divisions or whatever. And it's like,
Speaker 4: you guys, understand, these schools have to sign off on this.
Speaker 4: There's no power it's going to force this upon them.
Speaker 4: Why would the SEC and the Big Ten sign off
Speaker 4: on this? And Greg say Key's come out and said, like,
Speaker 4: we have no interest in that. Like it's a doggy
Speaker 4: dog world and the SEC in the Big Ten are
Speaker 4: the top dogs, and you're gonna have to make a
Speaker 4: pretty compelling pitch to make them give up their their
Speaker 4: perch in college football and seating you know, five to
Speaker 4: twelve percent of their money to private equity. It just
Speaker 4: seems like so much wrong for what payoff. It just
Speaker 4: it just seems stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things kind of like the
Speaker 2: Alliance if you remember with the ACC, the Big Tan,
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve, like it'll it'll be in the moment. Wow,
Speaker 2: this is pretty this is, this is somebody thinking big picture,
Speaker 2: this is this is innovative, and then it's all literally
Speaker 2: just a waste of our breath talking about it. So
Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's certainly been a big you know,
Speaker 2: it's just with with so much chaos and shake up
Speaker 2: and college sports, these kind of things. These stories, they
Speaker 2: do get a lot of attention, but there's been so
Speaker 2: many of them that really were just again, you know,
Speaker 2: a big, big waste of time. But that's what people
Speaker 2: call this show, Zach, waste of time. But we appreciate
Speaker 2: you giving us your time here on a Wednesday afternoon. Appreciated. Brother.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: All right, sounds good, Thank you? All right?
Speaker 2: That Zach Barnett FootballScoop dot Com. Good stuff. We got
Speaker 2: to run clock management again. You know, it's never great
Speaker 2: in general, but it's really not good whenever I'm not
Speaker 2: there with the company man keeping me in line. I'm
Speaker 2: not blaming it on him at all. It's also had
Speaker 2: a late guest though. We just started four to ten.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. All right, we got another hour
Speaker 2: and a half to go, so stick with us right here.
Speaker 2: It's coffee and company field. Bututh Thornton's right here on
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Speaker 2: for hanging out with us here on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you live from Charlotte as we're here
Speaker 2: for the ACC basketball tip off, the first time. Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey's going to be a part of this event. If
Speaker 2: we can call it an event, it is an event.
Speaker 2: It's talking season, as they say. But you know, you
Speaker 2: don't hear it described as that in basketball because there's
Speaker 2: not as much of a I don't know, I guess
Speaker 2: in certain places there is, like if you don't have
Speaker 2: a basket, if you don't have a football team, or
Speaker 2: you're just not a football fan, and maybe you are
Speaker 2: chomping at the bit ready to get hoops started. But
Speaker 2: when ACC Media Day's come around for football and SEC
Speaker 2: and Big Ten and the talking season that you hear
Speaker 2: about in July, I mean, that's when we have just
Speaker 2: exhausted all different ways that you can talk about the
Speaker 2: upcoming season and we just want football with basketball, I
Speaker 2: feel like it does kind of sneak up on you,
Speaker 2: which is good because you know, we got football going on,
Speaker 2: and that's a good thing. And then basketball literally will
Speaker 2: be here before you know it, Like Louisville in less
Speaker 2: than a month will be playing their first real game,
Speaker 2: which you know, they're going to have a couple of
Speaker 2: exhibitions before that and a red white scrimmage I think,
Speaker 2: although now I'm questioning, dude, are they doing a red
Speaker 2: white event? I don't know. I feel like they are, but.
Speaker 3: Now you second, maybe Louisville live. I know they did
Speaker 3: the three on three. You think that could have potentially Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, and if they don't do one, that's fine,
Speaker 2: it really is because and the three on three was
Speaker 2: I mean it was like they mixed members from the
Speaker 2: men's and the women's team and then Steve Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it was, and it and it you know, it
Speaker 2: was I want I don't want to say it was
Speaker 2: uncomfortable or awkward, because you know it's I mean, those
Speaker 2: those those aren't like real competition. It's not real competition
Speaker 2: whenever you're out there at an event like that. But
Speaker 2: like I just felt like they weren't really trying, and
Speaker 2: therefore it was like, okay, what are we doing with
Speaker 2: it again? It's like, well, if they did try and
Speaker 2: they got hurt it it'd be terrible. So either way,
Speaker 2: we'll see them before they get to the real game.
Speaker 2: But even you know, with that said, their first real
Speaker 2: game against Morehead State is less than a month away,
Speaker 2: which is certainly exciting. So we'll talk some more hoops
Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow as we I'll be there live from
Speaker 2: from you know, downstairs at Radio Row, and we'll have
Speaker 2: Coach Kelsey on, Javon Hadley, Chucky Hepburn and talk some
Speaker 2: basketball and I don't know, again, I've got some I've
Speaker 2: got some plans to talk with some folks that are
Speaker 2: here that I know that sometimes you hear on the
Speaker 2: on the show, you know, via phone, but I'll probably
Speaker 2: record those and you know, probably need to remind myself though,
Speaker 2: after I do that, to play them relatively soon, because
Speaker 2: it's one of those things that if I don't like,
Speaker 2: it'll be three weeks old. Then you'll think like, well, hey,
Speaker 2: why would anybody want to hear from Jeff Goodman from
Speaker 2: three weeks ago. So anyways, we'll talk coops a little
Speaker 2: bit later on later today and of course tomorrow, but
Speaker 2: the text line some football stuff coming in And this
Speaker 2: actually came in a little bit earlier today. This is Nick,
Speaker 2: thanks a lot, because I'm still a big believer in Bram.
Speaker 2: I hadn't even really processed the thought of a loss
Speaker 2: at Virginia. But now you have scared me to thinking
Speaker 2: that Louisville will probably end up losing and it'll make
Speaker 2: the fan base melt. I mean, I don't think you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you're blaming me. I
Speaker 2: think you kind of are. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: being sarcastric or not, but I mean, I've not said
Speaker 2: louilv was going to go lose to Virginia. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I still think they're gonna win, and
Speaker 2: I think you know, I don't want them to test it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be proven right or wrong, but
Speaker 2: I do believe that they could probably play. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's hard to say that you can make the kind
Speaker 2: of mistakes they made against Notre Dame and still win.
Speaker 2: But then again, like, that's the truth. You made that
Speaker 2: many mistakes, and if you eliminate maybe one of them,
Speaker 2: you probably do beat Notre Dame in Notre Dame. And
Speaker 2: that's maddening. Now again, I think it's partly due to
Speaker 2: the fact that Notre Dame doesn't really appear to be
Speaker 2: that good. I mean, you know, they're probably going to
Speaker 2: go eleven and one and they'll get in the playoff.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's insane that you can get
Speaker 2: in the playoff without a conference championship and a loss
Speaker 2: to NIU, But you know they'll get in probably, which
Speaker 2: is crazy to me, but that's how it works. So
Speaker 2: you know, they're not terrible, They're not a bad team.
Speaker 2: But like I watched them and the caller I think
Speaker 2: earlier this week kind of tried to, like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: troll me or something, but like he was asking me
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, I've literally said it since they
Speaker 2: left South Bend. That like one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: that was such a punch to the gut is because
Speaker 2: you didn't even have to play that much better and
Speaker 2: you'd beat them at South at South Bend because they're
Speaker 2: not that special. So again, back to the Virginia game.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna dare them to play like they have
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks with some sloppy play and
Speaker 2: avoidable mistakes and see if they can win. So I can,
Speaker 2: you know, see if I'm right or wrong, But Virginia
Speaker 2: is not SMU, They're not Notre Dame even, but you
Speaker 2: know they're going to be at home. And you know
Speaker 2: what I really worry about is if you don't come
Speaker 2: out sharp and really just come out. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say they got to look like an
Speaker 2: entirely different team than what we've seen this year, because
Speaker 2: although you know, you could have easily lost to Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech had some plays not gone your way. Now again,
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna give them credit for making those kind
Speaker 2: of plays, but against Notre Dame and against SMU, even
Speaker 2: in those losses, like, I'm still seeing things here and
Speaker 2: there that tell me that you've got good players and
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of potential as a team. But
Speaker 2: if you're not winning, and we're just highlighting specific plays
Speaker 2: and some stats by certain guys, that's that's worth nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, good for those guys for balling out, but like,
Speaker 2: if you ain't winning, I mean overall, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think they'll win, but I'm also
Speaker 2: willing to acknowledge, and I think that's probably what you're
Speaker 2: getting at on the Texas, Like I think they'll win,
Speaker 2: but I'm also willing to acknowledge that if they lose,
Speaker 2: we can't say we'll be surprised, because you know, and
Speaker 2: what I worry about is that if they even though
Speaker 2: these do seem like things that you just like can
Speaker 2: very easily control, right, Hey, let's make sure we know
Speaker 2: how many men we have on the field and not
Speaker 2: send another one out there. It reminds me one of
Speaker 2: my closest friends, known him thirty years, my buddy Ronnie.
Speaker 2: He had He's a really good, smart ass. He had
Speaker 2: a really good line whenever we were in and I
Speaker 2: think it was freshman year, maybe eighth grade in basketball,
Speaker 2: we had a gun on our team named Corey who
Speaker 2: never got to play. You know, nice kid, just you know,
Speaker 2: wasn't very good. And you know he would tell you that.
Speaker 2: And when we got up big or we were getting
Speaker 2: our ass kicked, he got a chance to get in.
Speaker 2: And you know, it was just like a given, like
Speaker 2: at a certain point in the fourth quarter, John Corey
Speaker 2: was gonna be ready to go. It was aough time.
Speaker 2: If we're up big, we're down. If we're up big
Speaker 2: or we're down big, Corey knows, you go to the
Speaker 2: scores table. Well, he wasn't actually signaled into the game
Speaker 2: by the coach, but he thought it was his time
Speaker 2: and he ran out there, but nobody had been told
Speaker 2: to come off the floor. And don't. I don't even
Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably just poor officiating, but like
Speaker 2: somehow we're out there playing with six dudes, two possessions
Speaker 2: and before somebody realized we had six guys on the floor,
Speaker 2: and I think we got a technical. But you know,
Speaker 2: my buddy Ronie was like, hey man, yeah, only five
Speaker 2: guys on the floor like that, that's still a rule.
Speaker 2: You can't you know, we can't put as many guys
Speaker 2: as we went out there. And again it was just
Speaker 2: a real witty, smart ass line from you know, a
Speaker 2: you know, probably a thirteen twelve year old. But that's
Speaker 2: what I was thinking when watching louis over the last
Speaker 2: two weeks, like do you guys are you aware, like
Speaker 2: we can't have twelve men on the field. We can't
Speaker 2: have At one point we had fourteen guys on the
Speaker 2: field against SMU. I think it was in one play.
Speaker 2: Like it reminds me. Also, there was a there was
Speaker 2: a against Alabama when Louisville played Alabama in Orlando, a
Speaker 2: few years ago, or I guess it's been longer than
Speaker 2: a few years ago. And you know, they got their
Speaker 2: ass kicked like most teams would have against that team,
Speaker 2: but they just kept committing this. I don't remember what
Speaker 2: penalty it was, but they kept they kept committing the
Speaker 2: same penalty over and over and it might have been
Speaker 2: twelve men on the field. Actually, now the thing about it,
Speaker 2: and I think like four times in the first three
Speaker 2: quarters Louisville got penalized for having twelve men on the field,
Speaker 2: which again, you know, is it's an easy thing to avoid.
Speaker 2: But somebody on Twitter, I think, I can't think of
Speaker 2: who it was. It's a known person. I can't think
Speaker 2: of who it is. Oh, Jason Jason Riley of WDRB,
Speaker 2: who's a you know in his you know, in his
Speaker 2: real world. He's a very great reporter journalists when it
Speaker 2: comes to just you know, investigative reporting and whatnot. But
Speaker 2: he's a big Loisvel fan and he's funny on Twitter.
Speaker 2: But he was like, you know what, they don't like
Speaker 2: us having twelve men on the field, but damn it,
Speaker 2: we're not backing down. We're gonna keep doing it until
Speaker 2: they until they really tell us, Yeah, you can throw
Speaker 2: those flags all you want. We're gonna put twelve men
Speaker 2: out here, and this is what we're gonna do. Like
Speaker 2: it's kind of what Louisville's been doing at times on defense,
Speaker 2: although you know they look like they don't know, like
Speaker 2: some guys are out there. I mean the play in
Speaker 2: the third, late third quarter or fourth quarter, whenever the
Speaker 2: the cameras show like they're about to snap the ball
Speaker 2: and there's a dude from the Louisville sideline running on
Speaker 2: the field behind the play, and like, I don't even
Speaker 2: remember who it was, but I'm just thinking, like on
Speaker 2: what planet would he think he needs to be out
Speaker 2: there right now? Like, you know, he's probably just doing
Speaker 2: what he's told, but it just points to the disorganization
Speaker 2: and how nobody is on the same page. There's such
Speaker 2: a lack of communication. But he's running out there and
Speaker 2: you can just tell by his body language and his
Speaker 2: demeanor he knows that some thing's wrong, but he doesn't
Speaker 2: know what to do because there's it's such a it's
Speaker 2: such a bleef show. It's just crazy. So my original
Speaker 2: point that it took me a long way to get
Speaker 2: to is this, even though these things seem like very
Speaker 2: fixable things. The more you do it, the more you
Speaker 2: are in your head about it, the more you second guess, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, can we put the right amount of
Speaker 2: players on the field. I mean, yeah, you can, but
Speaker 2: like you know, it just becomes a mental thing. And
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people have said, there's no
Speaker 2: way they have that. I mean, there's no way they
Speaker 2: let that happen again after being an issue the last
Speaker 2: two weeks. And I'm like, Okay, well, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope you're right. But I mean, if
Speaker 2: it was, if it was that easy to fix, they
Speaker 2: to fix it. I quick break will come back on
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Speaker 2: In all seriousness, those who do work in the field
Speaker 2: of meteorology, and you know, their knowledge in the knowledge
Speaker 2: that you know they've gathered from those who came before
Speaker 2: them in that field, Like you know, without them, we
Speaker 2: wouldn't maybe be as well prepared for these types of situations.
Speaker 2: So I don't say this, you know to you know,
Speaker 2: at times we have fun with the weather folks being wrong,
Speaker 2: but at what point do you have to realize, like, yes,
Speaker 2: it it is a career, and it is a it
Speaker 2: is a very important field, right Like you are out
Speaker 2: there to keep people safe and to learn about, you know,
Speaker 2: these types of situations to again make people aware of
Speaker 2: what they need to do, and you can you know,
Speaker 2: study the I mean, I can't even give you like
Speaker 2: BS terminology when it comes to like weather meteorology stuff.
Speaker 2: But you know, like the people who go out and
Speaker 2: chase tornadoes, like some of those people are meteorologists. Some
Speaker 2: people just get a get a kick out of it.
Speaker 2: They did, they love it. But I think you've got
Speaker 2: to be a real you know, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't want to insult them because I'm going to
Speaker 2: choose to believe that they're doing it to hopefully eventually
Speaker 2: help people as a positive thing in the world. But
Speaker 2: there are people right now that are out I mean,
Speaker 2: let me just make sure I've got to make sure
Speaker 2: I've got the details here, because there are people that
Speaker 2: are flying through a Category five hurricane just just to
Speaker 2: see what it's like, you know, and potentially probably die.
Speaker 2: But they're doing it to quote unquote collect data to
Speaker 2: help improve the forecast and support hurricane research. Like hurricane
Speaker 2: research clearly is important, but if you're out there just
Speaker 2: you know, getting some reps in being out in a
Speaker 2: hurric a category five hurricane, Like and you die and
Speaker 2: you you know, and you meet the big man upstairs,
Speaker 2: like you know, he's gonna probably tell you what do
Speaker 2: you do? Like what are you doing? Pretty funny? Actually,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, you know, like what
Speaker 2: did you think would happen? Like, yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 2: you've already done your field itself, and all that you've
Speaker 2: done in your career clearly shows that you know, not
Speaker 2: only are doing something you love, but you know it's
Speaker 2: got a positive purpose. But to be out just you know,
Speaker 2: gathering data for research to further you know, understand hurricanes,
Speaker 2: Like it's you know, if it turned into a suicide mission,
Speaker 2: Like can anybody say they'd be surprised? Like this is nuts?
Speaker 3: Now if I'm just a mistaken I think they fly
Speaker 3: over the hurricane. I don't know if that's the case
Speaker 3: with what these people you're referring to or do There's
Speaker 3: a video.
Speaker 2: There's a video that I just watched and it is on.
Speaker 2: It's on the NAA Aircraft Operations Center account. It says
Speaker 2: bumpy ride into Hurricane Milton on WP three d oreon
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that is, Miss Piggy. I guess it's
Speaker 2: at a Is that a plane? Is that a boat?
Speaker 2: I don't know. The conditions are so bad that I
Speaker 2: can't tell if they're on water or if they're on an aircraft.
Speaker 2: But again, it says to collect data to help improve
Speaker 2: the forecast and support hurricane research. Like, yeah, they're in
Speaker 2: a plane. I'm looking at the video now like they're
Speaker 2: flying through a Category five hurricane to take notes for
Speaker 2: further research, like you know, at research.
Speaker 3: It's not pretty ancient, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, you know the reason I
Speaker 2: really dressed it up to the reason I really dressed
Speaker 2: it up to, like you guys are so great, Like
Speaker 2: you guys just do this because you love people and
Speaker 2: you want to keep them safe. It's not about being
Speaker 2: on TV. It's not about you know, being right and
Speaker 2: having that control, that power. You saw the forecast. Now
Speaker 2: everybody's plans are canceled. It's not about that you would
Speaker 2: never You do it because you just want to keep
Speaker 2: people safe. I dressed that up that way so I
Speaker 2: can say on the back end, like don't take yourself
Speaker 2: too serious, like don't be such a try hard. That's
Speaker 2: you know, that was my strategy there, John, And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying John said it. I said it. But like
Speaker 2: you draw, you're flying through a Category five hurricane yucking
Speaker 2: it up for a social media video for clout, Like
Speaker 2: you know, you play dangerous games, you get dangerous prizes
Speaker 2: at times, and hopefully they're safe. But like, how idiotic
Speaker 2: is that? Like that's not that's not heroic. That's stupid,
Speaker 2: is what that is. That's freaking stupid. All right, this
Speaker 2: show's pretty stupid too. But we have fun at least,
Speaker 2: you know we do. If you don't have fun, you know,
Speaker 2: let us just have fun. We got another hour to go,
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