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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey, I'm Johnny Mack with your daily

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<v Speaker 1>comedy news, daily briefing on stand up comedy, comedians and

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<v Speaker 1>the comedy industry. A sentence the algorithm love, so I

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying it. The Oscars are tomorrow night. They will

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<v Speaker 1>be hosted by Conan O'Brien for the second year in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. Conan said, it's not just about being funny

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<v Speaker 1>moments a moment, it's also about acknowledging what there is

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<v Speaker 1>in a larger sense. As the host, I'm sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the human avatar or whatever. I'm the entryway for the

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<v Speaker 1>person watching at home, the person the audience member can

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<v Speaker 1>relate to. I've been working for a really long time

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<v Speaker 1>on material for the show with my writers, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>still evolving. Because we live in a very fast paced world.

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<v Speaker 1>Jokes we thought of two months ago are relevant now.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be things that happened this week that will

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<v Speaker 1>find their way into the show. He recalled last year

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of challenges. The LA wildfires had

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<v Speaker 1>him working well displaced. Conan said, so this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to wake up in the morning in my own room,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds like a small thing, but it's a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So this year, all the movies are so different, they're

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<v Speaker 1>also vibrant. There's so many different voices, so much artistry

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<v Speaker 1>went into them. I think it's one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>film years that we've had in memory. As for a hosting,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't see the job being punchlines all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He explains, it's not necessarily about being one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>funny all the time. Sometimes there are moments where it's

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<v Speaker 1>my job to move us along to the next moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He and the team talk a lot about prep and

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<v Speaker 1>design and getting everything just a certain way and practice practice, practice,

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<v Speaker 1>But when this show happens, it's an organic thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>unfolding in real time. The show will be a living organism,

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<v Speaker 1>for better or worse. Conin did several interviews during the week.

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<v Speaker 1>When with The La Times, they talked about the elephant

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, which is the ongoing war in Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>Conan said, my job is to always try and hit

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<v Speaker 1>this very very thin line between entertaining people and also

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging some of the realities. It's a dance that goes

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<v Speaker 1>on up until the show begins. Between us, and he

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<v Speaker 1>referenced his executive producers. We'll find the right tone. Conan

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<v Speaker 1>recalled when Johnny Carson hosted the Oscars during the Iran

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<v Speaker 1>hostage crisis. When I was a boy, Johnny Carson parodied

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<v Speaker 1>ABC's Nightline with the joke It's Day four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty four of the Oscars. Conan said, it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a funny, topical joke that touched on something everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about and at the same time got a big

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<v Speaker 1>laugh and was unifying, and that was meaningful to me. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the rumored safety threats. One of the showrunners said,

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<v Speaker 1>every year we monitor what's going on in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the support of the FBI and the LAPD.

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<v Speaker 1>The show runner said, this show has to run like clockwork.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone is coming on the show that is witnessing the show,

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<v Speaker 1>even a fan of the show. They're standing on the barricades.

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<v Speaker 1>Who want everybody to feel safe and protected and welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>On Late Night or Bill Carter spoke with Conan. You

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<v Speaker 1>can listen to that entire interview on the Late Night

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<v Speaker 1>or Podcast Feed Wednesday's episode the Bill Carter Interview. Conan O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 1>I just added that to my cue. Let's see how

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<v Speaker 1>absurd my cue is. Right now, this is a real number.

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<v Speaker 1>If you follow me on LinkedIn and or the substack.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been mentioning, this is a real number. Okay, Right

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<v Speaker 1>now I have two hundred and sixty nine episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts downloaded to my phone. That would take two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>ninety hours and twenty eight minutes to listen to all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. However, it's getting warmer out. Johnny Mack will

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<v Speaker 1>either walk the dog or sit out in the yard,

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<v Speaker 1>or fall asleep in the art, or sit on a beach,

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<v Speaker 1>or sit up at the new summer place that I bought.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't worry that number is going to get lower.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll eventually listen to Bill Carter and Cone and I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Carter asked, is it true that the Motion Picture Academy

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<v Speaker 1>asked Conan to come back before he even left the

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<v Speaker 1>stage last year? Conan said, not quite, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick. He talked about being a complete unknown back

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<v Speaker 1>when he took over for David Letterman. He said, now

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<v Speaker 1>we live in an arrow where there's no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a complete unknown. Anyone like me starting out today

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<v Speaker 1>would have six hundred hours of YouTube clips. Conan described

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<v Speaker 1>his resume back then. He said, a writer, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>got an interesting vibe. Will there be a cold open

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<v Speaker 1>on the Oscar? Conan said, you can expect some things.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more than one thing. We have some pieces

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<v Speaker 1>I really like. We have some live things I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. Very vague, Conan said, what I love most

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<v Speaker 1>is the process. I love hanging around the writer's room

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<v Speaker 1>in my post late night life. The two things I've

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<v Speaker 1>missed most are having a writer's room and having a band.

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<v Speaker 1>When first asked to host the Oscars last year, Conan said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was intrigued right away. I had done award shows

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. I like the format. I like being

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<v Speaker 1>out in front of people. I like the feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony because you can kind of play against it. So

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<v Speaker 1>when they asked, yeah, I have to try this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious about it. I know it's a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna put myself through some misery, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And as for the second ask, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to try that again. I had such a good

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<v Speaker 1>time the first time. I'm glad I did it. They

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it being a tough room. ConA explained, the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the room, you're literally the last thing they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about say his barometer. If I'm having a good

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<v Speaker 1>time and feeling the flow of it all and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making myself laugh ninety nine percent of the time, it

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<v Speaker 1>means it went well. I call that the hallway ratings.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to talk about this. It's serious a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was walking down the hall and feeling good

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<v Speaker 1>about a show and people stopped me in the hallway

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about what they had just heard on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I knew we had a good show. And

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<v Speaker 1>like this show here. You know, you do it every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Some episodes are better than others. Be realistic. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some days I find a muse and the episode is

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<v Speaker 1>a little more fun. Sometimes I'm just going through the headline.

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<v Speaker 1>Some days there's nothing to work with. Some days I've

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<v Speaker 1>find inspiration on the fly, so I know what Conan

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<v Speaker 1>is saying. Conan says it's even better if something unexpected

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<v Speaker 1>comes up during the show. It's a little like Olympic diving.

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<v Speaker 1>You get grated on the difficulty if something just happened,

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<v Speaker 1>people are looking for the host to guide them through that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could do it in a funny way, the

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<v Speaker 1>potential payoff is much greater than anything you thought of

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<v Speaker 1>three months ago. Does Conan miss standing in front of

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<v Speaker 1>an audience daily? Hmm, he says, no, I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>You get one life. I spent a long chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>my life doing that. I really enjoyed it. It was thrilling,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I like trying out all these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would miss it, but I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>As for a late night, he said, my assumption has

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<v Speaker 1>been that it's gonna morph as everything does. Now. People

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<v Speaker 1>are watching their favorite comedian who no one else in

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<v Speaker 1>the room has heard of. Had he worked Linden Late

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<v Speaker 1>Night in the fifties or sixties, I would have left

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<v Speaker 1>after the tonight show and you wouldn't have heard from me. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Would Conan consider hosting SNL asked Bill Carter, And again

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear that whole interview on Late Nighter. Conan said,

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<v Speaker 1>good question. I never want to be that guy comes

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<v Speaker 1>back and says, hey, this is my old high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go here. Hey kids, I'm groovy. But

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<v Speaker 1>never say never. If it came up, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to try. I'm not banking on it, certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>asking for it. Conan got a big cover piece in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Reporter under the headline, Conan O'Brien just can't

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<v Speaker 1>help himself. Conan said, we work in an industry where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's constantly hyper analyzing where they are on a certain scale.

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<v Speaker 1>All I can say is I get to do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that, for better or worse, I was put here

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<v Speaker 1>to do. The article quotes John mulaney, who said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch a lot of these things, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember thinking, is this the greatest Oscars ever? Conan is

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<v Speaker 1>a true artist and an incredible broadcaster. He's also got

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<v Speaker 1>one thing you cannot fake and can't only earn, which

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<v Speaker 1>is stature. Jeff Ross is quoted he had told Conan

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<v Speaker 1>when the first offer came in. I told him you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to do this. You've got nothing to prove.

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<v Speaker 1>When we quit late night, the goal will only do

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<v Speaker 1>things that are fun, things we want to do well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Conan wants to do. This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Sweeney was Conan's head writer and says, if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows O'Brien's tail when an idea tanks, it's him. Sweeney

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<v Speaker 1>explains his tell his tail is that he mocks at

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<v Speaker 1>mercilesly for at least five minutes. He's most delighted in rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 1>When things go wrong or they're just bad. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>delivering fresh meat to lines gauge. If it's your bit

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<v Speaker 1>that's getting eviscerated, you're laughing as hard as anyone. You

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<v Speaker 1>may be curious, how much do you get paid to

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<v Speaker 1>host the OSCAR? Is not all that much in the

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<v Speaker 1>scheme of things. A twenty thirteen article in The Hollowod

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<v Speaker 1>Reporter suggested a number between fifteen and twenty five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven years ago, Jimmy Kimmel said I got paid fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars to host the OSCAR. Wanda Psyke said hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty two ceremony actually left her out of pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that hard to believe. But okay, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>remember twenty twenty two. Now, that was the year with

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<v Speaker 1>the famous slap. Every time I see this sentence, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just my brain fries your host that year Wanda Sykes,

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<v Speaker 1>Regina Hall, and Amy Schumer. Amy Schumer hosted the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just all ponder that for a second. I just

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<v Speaker 1>the Oscars tomorrow, Amy Schumer, you'd be like what, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't you be like what? Well? Twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Schumer hosted the Oscars. That's the thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The New Yorker asked Conan O'Brien, it's a high risk,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even the low reward gig, isn't it? And Conah said,

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<v Speaker 1>I choose not to see it this way. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. I grew up watching Bob Hope do it,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Carson do it, so it's a very cool thing

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<v Speaker 1>to be connected to. And as you know, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>interested in history, and this thing has been around for

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years, almost a hundred years, solet's have fun

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<v Speaker 1>with it. That's my attitude. What I've learned myself over

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<v Speaker 1>time is I can't fake enjoyment. I need to find

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<v Speaker 1>ways to make sure that I'm having a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to prepare. I mean, I'm a big preparation person.

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<v Speaker 1>I work with this brilliant team of writers who are

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<v Speaker 1>just downstairs from where I'm doing this podcast. I go

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<v Speaker 1>down there, they're all around a long table and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>these premises are no good. Yeah, these premises are no good.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get the Glengarry premises, and I yell

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<v Speaker 1>at them, I'm the Alec Bald when it comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and gives that great speech upfront. I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>movie now. I think we all know that, not the play.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked Conut about the slap and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>You can even hear how it just changed my speaking delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>performance part of all this. Conan said, I'm always this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's funny that Conan O'Brien got mased? No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all, that's not funny. I was just laughing

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<v Speaker 1>Did I dig enough of a holy yet? Coda said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a good time to remind you. If you like

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<v Speaker 1>great way to support the show. South By Southwest Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>tonight at seven o'clock at the Creek in the Cave.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Don't Tell Comedy all Stars in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>at south By Southwest. It's very corporate. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about money. None of this is about art,

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<v Speaker 1>none of it. None of it. None of it, none

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<v Speaker 1>the Cave. At eight o'clock Esther's Folly's hosts Funny or

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<v Speaker 1>Die Approved. Now who has Funnier Die approved? Funnier Die

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<v Speaker 1>has approved. Pete Lee, Paris Cichet again, She's gonna all

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven at the Creek in the Cave. That's your

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<v Speaker 1>south By Southwest Comedy tonight. One thing I'm noticing in

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<v Speaker 1>the past there have been like pretty shiny comedians at

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<v Speaker 1>all doing like podcasts, so they're not showing up on

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