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Speaker 1: privilege of talking to Donnie today. Donnie's an individual reached
Speaker 1: out to me through email wanting to share some really
Speaker 1: interesting things she's experienced over the years down there in
Speaker 1: southwestern Virginia. Welcome to the show, Donnie. How's it going.
Speaker 2: Good? Thanks for asking, and thanks for having me on
Speaker 2: your show.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is one We've taken a little bit of
Speaker 1: time to get here, and as mostly on my side
Speaker 1: because life sometimes gets in the way, But I'm really
Speaker 1: glad to have you here today, Donnie, and you know,
Speaker 1: feel free to take us.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess as far back as you want to go.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you've experienced things out there really your
Speaker 1: whole life. Yeah, but I'll let you take the call.
Speaker 2: So okay, Well, I mean there's absolutely things going back
Speaker 2: from when I was little, but this in particular, I
Speaker 2: guess thing. The reason I emailed you to begin with
Speaker 2: was all right, let me just start as close to
Speaker 2: the beginning as I can get. Okay, So where I'll
Speaker 2: live at. I live at the foot of a mountain,
Speaker 2: but in a valley, so we're surrounded by you know,
Speaker 2: woods and forests and stuff, and there's like little pockets
Speaker 2: of houses, you know what I'm saying. Like if you
Speaker 2: were to look at us from an aerial view, you're
Speaker 2: just gonna see mountains, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: there's little pockets of communities. Right. So where I live at,
Speaker 2: if you go down the road a little ways, you
Speaker 2: can take like a rite and go up on top
Speaker 2: of a hill and there's a small collection of homes there.
Speaker 2: So one summer I noticed a bunch of box like
Speaker 2: unmarked unmarked box vehicles like going up that road. I mean, well,
Speaker 2: it was so much that I actually noticed that. I
Speaker 2: was like, well, that's weird. You know, that's a lot
Speaker 2: of activity. My husband at the time was a police detective,
Speaker 2: so I told him one day, I said, I said,
Speaker 2: I think there's something weird going on up the road here.
Speaker 2: You know. I couldn't put my finger on it. I
Speaker 2: just noticed a lot of in and out traffic. So
Speaker 2: one day I decided I was just gonna go nose around.
Speaker 2: So I got in my truck and I drive up
Speaker 2: there and I'm kind of looking like around, like there's
Speaker 2: like two or three streets, okay, something like driving up
Speaker 2: and down the streets, not up and down, just like
Speaker 2: you know, through the area, just looking for anything unusually,
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't even know what I was
Speaker 2: looking for. I didn't see anything. So I come back home.
Speaker 2: So after that, I noticed I had two cars, two
Speaker 2: vehicles in particular. Every time I would go out, I
Speaker 2: would see these vehicles out. And I told my husband,
Speaker 2: I was like, there's somebody following me. Every time I
Speaker 2: leave here, the same vehicles are following me. Well, he
Speaker 2: thinks I'm just being paranoid or whatever. So one night
Speaker 2: I told him, I said, take my truck and drive
Speaker 2: out and see what happens. And I told him exactly
Speaker 2: which vehicle would most likely be following him. Well, sure enough,
Speaker 2: he takes my truck, he drives and it's the same vehicle,
Speaker 2: one of the same vehicles that has been behind me
Speaker 2: or following me. So he stops and he's going to
Speaker 2: try to get behind this vehicle, right, so he can
Speaker 2: kind of like maybe I don't know if I I
Speaker 2: know who they are or whatever. So when he pulls
Speaker 2: over it, they just keep going, and of course he
Speaker 2: loses them. Right. Maybe a week or two after that,
Speaker 2: I went out to town because we lived We don't
Speaker 2: live far from town. So I went to town and
Speaker 2: I drive through a restaurant. Well, I notice the truck
Speaker 2: drive around the building. It comes like right alongside my truck.
Speaker 2: The windows are all tended up. It goes very slow,
Speaker 2: and then it leaves, and you know, and at this point,
Speaker 2: I'm just like I've had it with this. So I
Speaker 2: decide I'm going to follow this truck. I'm going to
Speaker 2: see where it's going. So I pull out of the
Speaker 2: line and by the time I get to the exit,
Speaker 2: like to get on the main road. You know, it's
Speaker 2: pretty far up the road, but still I pull out.
Speaker 2: And so I pull out and I get to like
Speaker 2: the red light, like an intersection, and you had to
Speaker 2: turn left at that intersection to go towards my house.
Speaker 2: So I turn you know left, and I don't see
Speaker 2: the vehicle anymore. And like right before you exit, like
Speaker 2: town limits, there's a parking ride like where people like
Speaker 2: meet up, you know, to ride to work together. And
Speaker 2: I was thinking, I wonder if that vehicle, you know,
Speaker 2: is there, because it really didn't have time to get
Speaker 2: too far away from me at that point. So I
Speaker 2: pull in the parking ride, and sure enough, sitting in
Speaker 2: the parking ride facing the main road, is that vehicle
Speaker 2: I pulled straight up on its bumper. I mean there,
Speaker 2: you couldn't have got like a soda canon between us,
Speaker 2: and I blatantly take a photo of the tag. You know,
Speaker 2: my my, like my adrenaline's going, you know, I'm like rushed,
Speaker 2: so I take a photo. I come home and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: my husband's cop I'm gonna show him this tag and
Speaker 2: he's gonna I don't know why he didn't think to
Speaker 2: do that either get a tag, but anyway, so I
Speaker 2: get the tag. So we get to look in at
Speaker 2: this tag and there's a lot missing off of it.
Speaker 2: So like the Virginia thing, you know it's there, but
Speaker 2: there's no like month and there's no day, you know,
Speaker 2: like your inspection or your registration, the stickers you get
Speaker 2: you know, for your tags, right, there's none of that.
Speaker 2: He has the tag ran and it comes back invalid,
Speaker 2: like it's not registered. There is not a tag registered,
Speaker 2: and we know it's correct because we've got a photo
Speaker 2: of it. So after that, I don't see that truck anymore. Okay,
Speaker 2: after that night, I do not see that truck again.
Speaker 2: But there's a new Vie and play, all right. So
Speaker 2: this goes on for a while. I decided, like in
Speaker 2: my vehicle, I always keep a dash cam now, right,
Speaker 2: because there's just too many bad drivers with driver's license,
Speaker 2: you know, and people do not tell the truth when
Speaker 2: they cause accidents. So I decided at that point, you know,
Speaker 2: that's when I'm getting the dash cam, right, So I
Speaker 2: decided to start parking my vehicle to face the main
Speaker 2: road so I can kind of like you know, I
Speaker 2: can record any activity or if I can catch this
Speaker 2: vehicle on dash came or whatever. Two days after I
Speaker 2: bought that dash cam, I go to get in my truck.
Speaker 2: The dash cam is laying in my seat and the
Speaker 2: memory card is out of it. It's gone. And we
Speaker 2: live in the country, you know, we don't walk our
Speaker 2: vehicles and stuff. We don't have to. If you're going
Speaker 2: to walk all the way out here to steal something
Speaker 2: out of my truck, honey, you can have it right.
Speaker 2: So it's laying in the seat. The memory card's gone.
Speaker 2: There's a me memory card, but my hood is not.
Speaker 2: It's like light. It's like popped open, and you know,
Speaker 2: like when you pop the hood, it doesn't open, but
Speaker 2: like it kind of releases, you know, like it'll pop
Speaker 2: up a little bit. I noticed my hood is like
Speaker 2: popped up, and my oil cap is gone off of
Speaker 2: my truck. I'm like, you know, what the heck, somebody's
Speaker 2: messing with my vehicle. So I told my house when
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, my memory card's gone, and
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And you know he's listen. I
Speaker 2: know he loves me and all that, but he's not
Speaker 2: taking me very serious at this point, you know, because
Speaker 2: he thinks I'm probably just, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: have a wild imagination or something, even though he did
Speaker 2: see the vehicle and all that, but he thinks I'm
Speaker 2: thinking too much into it. Okay, So this all happens around,
Speaker 2: This is all started, like I don't know, maybe late
Speaker 2: spring is when all this happened and things did settle down.
Speaker 2: But I know this was in July when I'm when
Speaker 2: I'm about to tell you, because Bible school is going on,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, if you're familiar with vacation Bible school, yes, like, okay, awesome.
Speaker 2: So it was Bible school time and my son at
Speaker 2: the time had decided, you know, he was gonna go
Speaker 2: to Bible school. So my husband went to pick him up.
Speaker 2: So it's a warm night, you know, and I love
Speaker 2: hearing like the crickets and the frogs and everything. So
Speaker 2: I'm sitting out on the front porch in the dark.
Speaker 2: So across like from my yard, like like across from
Speaker 2: my yard is like a little two lane back country road,
Speaker 2: and then there's like part of a field, like the
Speaker 2: very end of a field, like a cowlefield, and then
Speaker 2: the forest. So I start hearing this weird noise I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't describe it to you because it's a sound
Speaker 2: I've never heard before in my life. Okay, it's between
Speaker 2: a grunt and a growl, and it was so foreign
Speaker 2: to me. At first, I thought somebody was messing with me,
Speaker 2: like a person, you know. I was just making some
Speaker 2: weird noise. But so like I was, like, I think
Speaker 2: I started talking a little smack because you know, I
Speaker 2: think I'm ten feet tall, bulletproof. Sometimes it's just the
Speaker 2: country in me. I can't help it. So I'm sart like,
Speaker 2: you know, you sound like an idiot, you know. So
Speaker 2: the more I'm talking, the more aggressive that sound is getting,
Speaker 2: and the closer it's getting. There's a big maple tree
Speaker 2: in my front yard and where I'm sitting that is
Speaker 2: in my direct line of sight. So I'm talking, talking, talking, smack,
Speaker 2: and then the noise is getting louder and more aggressive.
Speaker 2: I was going to record it, and I pick my
Speaker 2: phone if you record it, and I promised to God
Speaker 2: it died right then. I thought, well, how convenient, you know,
Speaker 2: how typical. So I stood up to go and to
Speaker 2: get my charger to bring it out on the front porch.
Speaker 2: I look across to the sield and I see, let me,
Speaker 2: let me, let me just slow down per second. I
Speaker 2: see whatever it was, it was on two legs. From
Speaker 2: where I'm looking the fence line to that field. If
Speaker 2: I'm standing next to that fence, it comes up to
Speaker 2: my shoulders. I'm five foot five looking across to whatever
Speaker 2: I saw. That fence. The top of that fence probably
Speaker 2: came right above the thing's waist. So it's very very tall.
Speaker 2: It's solid blocke u, I mean black. It's it's very
Speaker 2: bulky like, not fat, bulky like, almost solid like stone looking.
Speaker 2: I can't describe it any other way. It's walking kind
Speaker 2: of like sod stepping, you know, like but almost like
Speaker 2: it was bow legged too, you know, like when you're
Speaker 2: bow legged, like you're you know, talking about your legs
Speaker 2: kind of do you know what that means? Bow legged?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you've been on a horse, right, yeah, yes, right,
Speaker 1: So it's almost like it's bow legged too, and it's
Speaker 1: walking kind of sod stepping.
Speaker 2: And all this happened in a matter of seconds. Okay,
Speaker 2: but you know when something like that happens in your head,
Speaker 2: it feels like eternity, you know, but in reality it's
Speaker 2: just like a few seconds. So it's sod stepping kind of.
Speaker 2: It's these massive long arms, super long arms. They'll probably
Speaker 2: come down, I guess close to its knees or in
Speaker 2: the middle of its leg or whatever. The only thing
Speaker 2: is I did not because it's nighttime. I didn't get
Speaker 2: a good look at its face because you know, it's
Speaker 2: it is dark. But its head, you know, like when
Speaker 2: you get a watermelon that's elongated and round it on
Speaker 2: the ends. You know, they're really long. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like shape like if you were to put that watermelon
Speaker 2: in half or whatever. That's the shape of the head.
Speaker 2: It was like a dome shape or and then it
Speaker 2: was But anyway, I see that thing coming across that field,
Speaker 2: but almost like in a diagonal direction, but it's like
Speaker 2: coming towards me, and I was like, my heart literally
Speaker 2: fell in my stomach. It it petrified me. And I'm
Speaker 2: a tough girl. I'm not afraid of snakes. I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid of most things I was wearing in the country.
Speaker 2: We're just tough girls out here. Okay, we're like a
Speaker 2: whole different breed. But that scared me to the point
Speaker 2: I've almost panic. I'm coming towards the door to come
Speaker 2: in and get the uh the three eighty okay or
Speaker 2: the three o eight. I was like, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna shoot this thing or whatever it is. About the
Speaker 2: time I turn to come in the door, my husband.
Speaker 2: Our driveways along my husband, I see the headlights pull
Speaker 2: up in the driveway, so I look to the truck.
Speaker 2: I look back towards the field and it's gone. There's
Speaker 2: nothing there. Well, my husband comes up. I am literally trembling,
Speaker 2: and he's like, what is wrong? Like what happened to you? Like?
Speaker 2: Why are what's on with you? And I told him
Speaker 2: about that's what happened. He was like, you probably just
Speaker 2: saw a bear or something.
Speaker 1: Big for a society will be right back after these messages,
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 2: Are you serious. I've been growing up in these mountains
Speaker 2: my whole life. I know what a bear looks like.
Speaker 2: We've walked upon bears, We've been countered bears. I know
Speaker 2: it ain't no bear. So I'm sorry that just even
Speaker 2: you know, it feels so good to be able to
Speaker 2: say that out loud, to tell that again, because eventually
Speaker 2: you just learned to keep your mouth shit, you know,
Speaker 2: because you can get tired of people telling you that
Speaker 2: you didn't see what you saw waiting. Anyway, so after
Speaker 2: that night we started, well, first I started seeing, and
Speaker 2: I know this is gonna sound weird, but I'll explain
Speaker 2: it all a solid black helicopter going on the backside
Speaker 2: of where that thing come from, and it was going
Speaker 2: straight down. And then like an hour later, because I
Speaker 2: would sit and watch like I'm watching this, it would
Speaker 2: come up. I didn't even got it on video clip. Actually,
Speaker 2: if I can find it, i'll email it to I've
Speaker 2: got a video of it. Even so I started seeing
Speaker 2: the helicopter going down and then come back up and
Speaker 2: taking off. Later I told my husband, He's like, how
Speaker 2: is that helicopter going to land in the forest. I
Speaker 2: was like, I know what I'm seeing. So I went
Speaker 2: to Google Earth and looked. Because I had also been
Speaker 2: seeing a bunch of logging trucks coming in and out
Speaker 2: of there, a bunch of unmarked utility vehicles going in
Speaker 2: and out of there. So I went to Google Earth
Speaker 2: and there's a huge clearing back there, like a perfect
Speaker 2: rip single that they've logged out and cleared out. So anyway, well,
Speaker 2: later on he sees the helicopter because he asked me.
Speaker 2: He said, was that? He said, the helicopter you said
Speaker 2: you were seeing? He said, it's solid block. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like why he said, because I saw it.
Speaker 2: And trust me, he would never give me that validation.
Speaker 2: And you know, he would never say anything just to
Speaker 2: appease me or you know or whatever. He needs a
Speaker 2: very skeptical straight shooter, like if he can't see it,
Speaker 2: it ain't real, you know what I mean. That's the
Speaker 2: kind of guy is. So he's very rational too, Like
Speaker 2: I'm just like, he's not open minded to things like this.
Speaker 2: I think I think you just have to be wired
Speaker 2: that way anyway. Anyway, so he sees, he says, he
Speaker 2: sees the helicopter as well. Then we start hearing dogs
Speaker 2: on the weekends. Just on the weekends over there, you
Speaker 2: can hear dogs running the mountains or you know, through
Speaker 2: the forest and stuff like there. And I told my husband,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, there's I think they're dropping
Speaker 2: dogs off for whatever reason. They're they're letting dogs out
Speaker 2: over there. And uh so we see that, you know,
Speaker 2: and excuse me. One second, Then we start seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: well I start seeing because I'm I'm watching I start
Speaker 2: seeing like these flatbeds trucks, like these big flatbed vehicles
Speaker 2: with like huge generators going up in there. They've got
Speaker 2: a there's like on up the road. There's another road
Speaker 2: you can turn up and there's a home that sits
Speaker 2: up on the hill. It's like a double wide trailer.
Speaker 2: But that his driveway will lead straight back into that area. Well,
Speaker 2: I've noticed that that road is extended now to go
Speaker 2: back into that area. And also on Google Earth, I'll
Speaker 2: look and you can see those aers in heavy equipment
Speaker 2: behind his house. I'm not making any of this up.
Speaker 2: I can show anybody where I'm talking about. And I
Speaker 2: told my husband, I said, I don't know what in
Speaker 2: the world is going on over there, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: something has to be. You know. You don't just see
Speaker 2: that kind of you don't see that equipment and helicopters
Speaker 2: and dogs. There's there's something going on. So I don't
Speaker 2: want to say I'm trying to keep up with my
Speaker 2: someone here. So we see, you know that, and we
Speaker 2: hear the dogs. Well, one day we're walking in the house.
Speaker 2: We had been somewhere and we're walking from our driveway
Speaker 2: to our front porch and both of us here machine
Speaker 2: gun fire. And trust me and my husband is a
Speaker 2: firearms instructor, we know what guns sound like. Neither one
Speaker 2: of us said a thing. We just looked at each
Speaker 2: other like did you hear that? And we heard it
Speaker 2: the one time. Maybe a few days later we both
Speaker 2: heard it again. So I think I think what happened, well,
Speaker 2: I know what happened as far as like what I saw,
Speaker 2: but I think either they were trying to detain it
Speaker 2: or that's all connected. Okay, the army, helicopter, the dogs, everything,
Speaker 2: it's all connected. It has to be. That's too many
Speaker 2: extremely weird things and a short amount of time for
Speaker 2: it not to be all connected. And also that summer,
Speaker 2: you know, because there's a lot of farmers around here,
Speaker 2: within a few months, I think between baby calves and
Speaker 2: sheep that went missing between two farmers was like thirty something.
Speaker 2: And because I remember them talking about it, and I
Speaker 2: was like, that just doesn't happen, you know, like a
Speaker 2: bear will get some sometimes, you know, or cody or something,
Speaker 2: but that's just that don't happen thirty something. But uh,
Speaker 2: because I remember what somebody else had said, like they
Speaker 2: believe people were like stealing them I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know where they're from if they think that, because you
Speaker 2: don't just drive your vehicle up to the side of
Speaker 2: a fence and snatch a calf. You know, first of all,
Speaker 2: the mother's probably gonna tramvel you to death. And plus
Speaker 2: you know, you don't just pick a cal or sheep
Speaker 2: up and throw it in the back of your truck.
Speaker 2: There's fences all over the place. It's not like you
Speaker 2: just throw open fields or nothing. You know, lot of
Speaker 2: doing to do that without getting notice, especially at that
Speaker 2: number at that volume. But so another as far as
Speaker 2: across the house goes and all the activity and all that,
Speaker 2: if you go on out the holler, well, because they
Speaker 2: live in a valley, and then like you can take
Speaker 2: a lift and it takes you through like a holler
Speaker 2: and then eventually you get to town. So out the
Speaker 2: holler there used to be a couple of nursing homes
Speaker 2: that set way back like you take you turn off
Speaker 2: the road the hollow road, and go way back down
Speaker 2: a little single lane country road, and there's a couple
Speaker 2: of nursing homes back there, and that's all that was
Speaker 2: back there. But somebody had bought them both out and
Speaker 2: closed them both down, and there was nothing back there.
Speaker 2: And now there's a road, a dugout road that extends
Speaker 2: from that road up into these woods. I don't know,
Speaker 2: and there's always you know, like I said, utility vehicles
Speaker 2: and whatever went in and out of that road. I
Speaker 2: told my husband, I said, I honestly wish I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen anything, because people make you feel like you're crazy
Speaker 2: to the point were you will like you'll question yourself.
Speaker 2: Did I really see that, you know? Or did I
Speaker 2: really hear that? But the thing is, I know what
Speaker 2: I saw, and I know where I heard. I've got
Speaker 2: no reason to lie about this. I've not told everybody.
Speaker 2: I've told my husband, my best friend, and I've told you.
Speaker 2: That's it. You know. I'm not looking for attention. There's
Speaker 2: nothing to gain. But I do know around here it
Speaker 2: would be the perfect place for any activity like that,
Speaker 2: because people around here they mind their business. They're just
Speaker 2: country folks. They could see a UFO land in a field.
Speaker 2: They just keep driving to go home. They're not telling
Speaker 2: anybody and just mind their business. They don't you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They don't get hyper tore up about nothing.
Speaker 2: They just it ain't none of my business. I'm going
Speaker 2: to go on home. So but that really wraps up
Speaker 2: that whole experience, you know, with all this stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing stuff and hearing stuff and that encounter and until
Speaker 2: the day I die, if nobody believes me, I'm not
Speaker 2: here to prove anything to anybody, because, like I said,
Speaker 2: I know what I saw and it is what it
Speaker 2: is right like to may not believe in me, is
Speaker 2: it going to change a thing? You had a girl
Speaker 2: on your show a while back, and she made the
Speaker 2: best point I think she was I'm upstate, New York
Speaker 2: and she her brother had inherited a cabin or something.
Speaker 2: She said, I can't be crazy if I'm saying every
Speaker 2: other day of the week. I thought that that's an
Speaker 2: awesome point. I'm saying every other day. It's not like
Speaker 2: I'm running around always how I'm seeing you know, UFOs
Speaker 2: or you know, it's not like this is this is
Speaker 2: not something I just do. And that's what I tell
Speaker 2: my husband. I said, I can't be crazy if I'm
Speaker 2: saying the rest of the time. Why would I lie?
Speaker 2: There's nothing to gain from it. But when I was
Speaker 2: a little girl, I'm going to tell you something else
Speaker 2: that kind of well, all right, ever since I was
Speaker 2: a little girl, I've had the same nightmare. Now you
Speaker 2: can't ask anybody this because I've told several people this.
Speaker 2: I'm always running, either through a forest or a building,
Speaker 2: like an abandoned building. I'm always running, like petrified of something.
Speaker 2: I've only seen it one time in my dream, and
Speaker 2: I was in an old schoolhouse and I was running.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking making up, screaming kind of nightmare.
Speaker 2: I was on an elevator and I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: away from this thing, and the elevator opens and it's
Speaker 2: standing there. It doesn't really have a form if it's
Speaker 2: like this eight foot tall black mass thee like some
Speaker 2: I've ever seen it. But when I was also a
Speaker 2: little girl, my uncle's like there was a lot of
Speaker 2: aunts and uncles. Look at my grandparents had like a
Speaker 2: lot of kids. So my uncles weren't very much older
Speaker 2: than me. Right, so some of us are just like
Speaker 2: through four years apart. But one night, they the boys
Speaker 2: they shared a room, right because it's country, there's not
Speaker 2: like big mansions or nothing like that around here. They
Speaker 2: start screaming and hollering and they said something was trying
Speaker 2: to crawl through the window. They said it was covered
Speaker 2: in hair and it was like it's arms and upper
Speaker 2: body were trying to come through the window. Well, Papa
Speaker 2: thought it was a bear or something, so he grabs
Speaker 2: a gun and runs out on the porch. He's gonna
Speaker 2: run around side the house and shoot it. He runs
Speaker 2: out on the porch and whatever it was was on
Speaker 2: two legs and it was running down their hill and
Speaker 2: Popaul kept a bunch of barrels and stuff. I don't
Speaker 2: know why we had a bunch of barrels, but that
Speaker 2: thing was almost like running serpentine and it was knocking
Speaker 2: those barrels behind it and all around. And so that's
Speaker 2: why I thought, you know, I'm not the only person
Speaker 2: around here that's seen stuff like this. I mean, even
Speaker 2: people in my own family have seen stuff like this.
Speaker 2: So that I was just like, there's no way I
Speaker 2: don't want. I know, some people do lie, or they
Speaker 2: embellish or exaggerate, and I'm not saying anybody that I've
Speaker 2: heard is, but you know, it's just human nature sometimes
Speaker 2: people do that. But I don't see any reason to
Speaker 2: ever lie about something like that, you know, like, why
Speaker 2: why would you because my Pappaul, like if you lied
Speaker 2: to him, like he's going to strap your legs, that's
Speaker 2: all he raise to it, you know, so there's no
Speaker 2: reason to lie and take a chance that I'm getting
Speaker 2: a whooping you know. Oh yeah, so yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: he's just like that. So which he believed him because
Speaker 2: he thought was on oz and at first he thought
Speaker 2: it was like a bear or something, but then he
Speaker 2: saw whatever it was renting on two legs. But there
Speaker 2: is a lot of I'm not gonna say, well, I
Speaker 2: guess you could say paranormal things that have in my family,
Speaker 2: and I believe you have to be I don't think everybody.
Speaker 2: I know everybody's not open minded to that, but I
Speaker 2: think some people are more drawn or even like just
Speaker 2: like you can see it easier than some people, like
Speaker 2: one night one of my aunts, and I think it's
Speaker 2: I think it can be attracted to you too, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's like, sorry, energies, Oh I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Absolutely it on what you're saying. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: I think that some people, like my husband for example,
Speaker 2: it's just it ain't happening, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like he could really he could be abducted by aliens
Speaker 2: and he'd be like, no, that didn't happen. That was
Speaker 2: just like a I don't know the utility worker. You
Speaker 2: know that was the gas man. So because it's not
Speaker 2: and it'll never come out in his mile favor, but uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm also a Christian, Okay, I believe
Speaker 2: in God one. My faith in God is one. It's solid.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you as far as like
Speaker 2: being afraid of like paranormal activity or demons or whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't fear that because I don't have to. I
Speaker 2: do not have to fear that because as a Christian,
Speaker 2: and nobody has to agree with this, But as a Christian,
Speaker 2: I am bought and covered by the blood, and nothing
Speaker 2: can cross that. Nothing can cross that. I have no
Speaker 2: reason to fear. But I think things will try to
Speaker 2: come against you. You know that anyway. They're going to try.
Speaker 1: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna try anyway. Things will. I think sometimes things will
Speaker 2: present itself to you to to try to break your
Speaker 2: spear and to try to break your faith. But come on,
Speaker 2: all right, No, I was so prepared to talk to you,
Speaker 2: but now I have drawn a total blank.
Speaker 1: How about I'll ask you a few questions.
Speaker 2: For a little bit, and yeah, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1: We'll do that for a bit and we'll see where
Speaker 1: that leads. So you had the circles, No, you've got
Speaker 1: a lot. You've got a lot going on, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that happens, and it's all up in your your head.
Speaker 1: You're trying overwhelming truly, Yeah, it's overwhelming. Do you saw
Speaker 1: the the the creature in the field by your house?
Speaker 2: Right? Yep? Were you ever would love a tree line
Speaker 2: got you?
Speaker 1: Were you ever able to go over there and to
Speaker 1: see if there are any tracks or or did you
Speaker 1: really just stay away? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well no not because I mean I would have, but
Speaker 2: you know you'd have to like flimb the fence or
Speaker 2: just go up through the dude's gate. And I don't
Speaker 2: know them that well. And plus you know, even if
Speaker 2: there were tracks, there's cows all through this area, you
Speaker 2: know all the time when there's cowls over there, sometimes
Speaker 2: horses too. So but listen, I can tell you this,
Speaker 2: I am one hundred percent for certain whatever I saw
Speaker 2: was not a cow. It was in a bear and
Speaker 2: it was in a person. It was I can't, I cannot.
Speaker 2: I wish I could. I wish I could draw it.
Speaker 2: I'm not artistic at all. I wish I could describe it,
Speaker 2: you know. That's the best I can describe it. But
Speaker 2: I know in the sound it was making. As long
Speaker 2: as I live till the day I die, I'll never
Speaker 2: forget that noise. Ever, I cannot find anything to come
Speaker 2: close to it. Though I have looked, I've searched it up.
Speaker 2: I've tried to search up like where noise is coming
Speaker 2: out of the mountains. It's just you know, anything, But
Speaker 2: there's nothing I can find to even come close to that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, something I did forget to tell you because
Speaker 2: I'm out here looking across there now. I started doing
Speaker 2: like video and over there, you know, like zoomed in,
Speaker 2: and I showed my husband is too during that time,
Speaker 2: and I think I might be looking at one now,
Speaker 2: look at there was something rigged up in those trees.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there were cameras or sensors or what,
Speaker 2: but there was something rigged up, and those trees tied
Speaker 2: up over there. In those trees are not tied up,
Speaker 2: but they were pitched up somehow. To me, that's why
Speaker 2: I think that was all related, because it's almost like
Speaker 2: it was being tracked by somebody, like maybe the government
Speaker 2: or something. And I think the reason like, because you know,
Speaker 2: somebody else say, well, how come nobody's seen it since?
Speaker 2: Or how come nobody saw it before? I have theory
Speaker 2: on that. If you are a sasquatch or foot or
Speaker 2: any kind of weird entity, you're not going to linger
Speaker 2: around one area too long, right, because a lot of
Speaker 2: people start seeing it and like a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: goes missing, like calves or sheep or whatever. Over a
Speaker 2: long period of time, it probably gets you know it
Speaker 2: down and killed. So I think they just they keep going,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't think they linger.
Speaker 2: And I live in near bodies of water, like as
Speaker 2: the crow flies. I might live ten minutes from a
Speaker 2: lake in one direction and then from another direction a river, right,
Speaker 2: so there's all bodies of water here too, So I
Speaker 2: think that's where you see a lot of stuff like that,
Speaker 2: you know, because they have to have water probably. Oh
Speaker 2: and my neighbors, my neighbors like that live across the
Speaker 2: way because it's like two houses during that time also,
Speaker 2: and they still have it too. They put up a
Speaker 2: dust till dawn light that is so bright and it
Speaker 2: stays on twenty four to seven or not, but when
Speaker 2: it starts, you know, like all the night, it just
Speaker 2: so it literally makes their front yards look like daytime.
Speaker 2: And they put that up that year too, And that
Speaker 2: happened like maybe one hundred yards from their house, but
Speaker 2: on the same side of the road as their house.
Speaker 2: So I don't know a lot of weird stuff happening.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, do you ever talk to your neighbors to see
Speaker 1: if if they've seen things? But it also sounds like
Speaker 1: people don't really talk in your area.
Speaker 2: But you know, I have thought about it, because I mean,
Speaker 2: I know what she is, and you know around here
Speaker 2: everybody knows everybody if we all know everybody, But you know, really,
Speaker 2: with working and everything else you got to do, people
Speaker 2: really don't. I'm going to say take the time, because
Speaker 2: that's the truth. We don't take the tom to visit
Speaker 2: others like we should, or just to say, you know, hello,
Speaker 2: how are you doing? You need anything? I have thought
Speaker 2: about talking to her, and I actually might do that.
Speaker 2: I haven't yet, but I have actually thought about it,
Speaker 2: because something's got to be. I mean, they they're bound
Speaker 2: to have heard something or seen something because, like I said,
Speaker 2: they live right here, the same area as me. I'm
Speaker 2: not the only one lives here. But I also know
Speaker 2: people could see like I said, at Ufo Land and
Speaker 2: they're just going to go on home, go on home
Speaker 2: and eat supper and then care. You know, they just
Speaker 2: mind their business. Oh it's weird.
Speaker 1: You'd mentioned that the two farmers. So there are they
Speaker 1: lost calves and sheep or were they finding.
Speaker 2: Exam yes, killed, they were finding them killed, okay, and
Speaker 2: like I guess eating up or what you know, like
Speaker 2: killed and ate them up or whatever.
Speaker 1: Were they where they were affording anything weird about what
Speaker 1: they were finding the way that they were looking.
Speaker 2: No, No, they just assumed it was a bear. So
Speaker 2: I'm assuming the bodies were probably you know, which I
Speaker 2: guess a coyote could tear one up to but a caff,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not you know, they're adorable, they're a
Speaker 2: little but you know, if you have a cauff it's
Speaker 2: even two or three months old, it's still a pretty
Speaker 2: big animal, you know, So maybe not for an entire
Speaker 2: pack of codies. But I can tell you this, I've
Speaker 2: heard coyoties so many times around here, but I've never
Speaker 2: seen any cooties close to where people like actually live,
Speaker 2: you know, like we've never seen codies like rent through
Speaker 2: the yard or like you can hear them in the
Speaker 2: mountains all night long. But I don't know, And it
Speaker 2: may have been codies. But to me, the volume, that number,
Speaker 2: that's just that's a lot. That's just a lot for
Speaker 2: a couple of months time. I think it is. I've
Speaker 2: never heard of something like that before, you know, as
Speaker 2: far as that man you're going missing or getting killed
Speaker 2: or whatever, it's because I guess some are. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is weird because like some you know that were missing
Speaker 2: and that's why they maybe presented the idea that somebody
Speaker 2: was skilling them. And then some were just found, you know, devoured.
Speaker 1: Ye Donnie, are you are you ever finding any weird
Speaker 1: items on your property or parts of animals or anything
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we found bones before. We found like deer bones
Speaker 2: in the backyard. Like we have a bunch of bamboo
Speaker 2: that grows in our backyard. It's so invasive, but there's
Speaker 2: one section of bamboo it's like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: a quarter of a football field, there's a lot of it,
Speaker 2: but we've found like because I've tried to dig some
Speaker 2: of it up, and I'm going to tell you that
Speaker 2: as an exercise in futility, that that's impossible to get up.
Speaker 2: That I found bones in that bamboo. And like you
Speaker 2: can see like where things have walked through it, you know,
Speaker 2: and bamboos tough. You know, it's tough to get bamboo
Speaker 2: to lay down, you know what I'm saying. It's very hard.
Speaker 2: But you can see where things have walked through and
Speaker 2: there's like two pads that but they're not I wouldn't
Speaker 2: think it would be like anything massive. I can walk
Speaker 2: through them. Let's put it that leg. So maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know, but there's two pads one through that bamboo
Speaker 2: and we have found bones back there. Oh in one year,
Speaker 2: well it was the same year when we put our
Speaker 2: garden out and I come home and and been mowing
Speaker 2: or something all day, and the tomato plants were gone.
Speaker 2: They weren't eating, they were ripped up and gold like
Speaker 2: they were just there're nothing like a root, not a stem, nothing,
Speaker 2: they were just going. And I was gonna tell you
Speaker 2: about my Popball too. He had a smokehouse. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean to take you a second ago. He had
Speaker 2: a smokehouse, you know, the smoke mate in it if
Speaker 2: they killed a hog or something. Well, he like the
Speaker 2: top of the smokehouse was like a loft, you know,
Speaker 2: and it was like an a free smokehouse. So he
Speaker 2: would hang mate in the center from that loft right
Speaker 2: so like nothing could climb a shell like coum you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, come up on the wall, like
Speaker 2: you would have to reach up and get it if
Speaker 2: you wanted it right right, So unless it was a bear,
Speaker 2: there's nothing gonna reach it, and nothing's gonna jump up
Speaker 2: there and grab it. So he had that mate hanging
Speaker 2: from that loft like right in the center, had a
Speaker 2: padlock on the door. It was out one day. The
Speaker 2: it's like a tin roof on it. Okay, the roof
Speaker 2: has been like bent backwards, meat's gone. Doors still intact.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Whatever got it went into
Speaker 2: the roof and got it.
Speaker 1: Again. It's how how high up was that roof? You think?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking ten feet? Maybe because I know us kids
Speaker 2: used to play like we played hide and seek. We
Speaker 2: put a lighter in there and like we'd come around
Speaker 2: hand that loft, so, I mean it was really tall
Speaker 2: of like we couldn't just climb up in and we
Speaker 2: had to use the lighter when we would play in
Speaker 2: it when Papa wasn't using its smoke. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: roof was like like the corner part of it was
Speaker 2: just kind of like pulled back, and the meat was gone,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't very wide. It was maybe m I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think maybe four foot by four foot. It
Speaker 2: was not very big. It was tall, it wasn't big wide,
Speaker 2: so but the meat was gone and it was like
Speaker 2: I think they had just curled the so there was
Speaker 2: you know, pork in there.
Speaker 1: When you would go over to their property, would they
Speaker 1: ever say things like well, don't go out to this
Speaker 1: corner of the property, or when it gets start, you
Speaker 1: guys get back here and stuff like that. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: And in the evening times if us kids were outside playing,
Speaker 2: like my mama was always sitting out there, like she
Speaker 2: never if she went in, if it even used the bathroom,
Speaker 2: we had to go in with her. And my paup
Speaker 2: Paul taught her because he was a coal miner and
Speaker 2: you know, one night she was home, he was working
Speaker 2: evening shift or third shift or something. They called it
Speaker 2: Hudao Hohodel shift. One night, she was home with the
Speaker 2: kids and somebody tried to break in the door. Okay,
Speaker 2: so Popaul decided to teach her how to shoot a gun.
Speaker 2: There was an old tree stamp. They had a little
Speaker 2: creeks that ran by their house. There was a tree
Speaker 2: stamp across that creek, and my Papaul would take a
Speaker 2: match and set it upright in the center of that
Speaker 2: tree stamp, and my Mama could shoot that match out
Speaker 2: of that tree stamp from across the creek. She was
Speaker 2: a good shot. So Mama always sat outside with us,
Speaker 2: and she always had a whipping with any arms reached,
Speaker 2: just in case. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think they oh yeah, Jerady. And she was a good
Speaker 2: show too. I'm gonna tell you the guy that actually,
Speaker 2: let me tell you how ridiculous this guy was. He
Speaker 2: told my papa because that happened again. Whoever tried to
Speaker 2: break in came back and Mama shot through the door. Well,
Speaker 2: maybe a day or two later, at work, some guy,
Speaker 2: Papaul was leaving work. It was morning. Some guy was
Speaker 2: coming in. He said, you need to take that gun
Speaker 2: away from your wife. She's going to kill somebody. Well,
Speaker 2: he just told on hisself in a Hello house. He
Speaker 2: gonna know that. So I reckon Papa. I'll take care
Speaker 2: of him country style that morning. But he never didn't
Speaker 2: mess with her again. No, Papa gave him a good
Speaker 2: old fashioned country aching.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so yeah, I mean. And you know, my
Speaker 2: mama bust her heart. She was a crucial woman. She
Speaker 2: would not lie. Listen to me. I was joking with
Speaker 2: her one time and I said I got to go
Speaker 2: clean my house. I said, I wish it would just
Speaker 2: burn down. I was just playing, okay. She scolded me
Speaker 2: and made me hang up and pray and ask God
Speaker 2: to free me and call her back. And said she
Speaker 2: was very really just like you just don't say stuff right,
Speaker 2: you don't say stuff like that. But she said one
Speaker 2: night her brother had got killed a rock fell on
Speaker 2: him in the Colemans. And she said she was laying
Speaker 2: in bed one night and she looked out to her window.
Speaker 2: She looked towards the window, and she said she saw
Speaker 2: him lying in his coffin and he said, marine Hell
Speaker 2: is hot, big.
Speaker 1: For a society, who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: He said, change your ways. And when she was very young,
Speaker 2: and honey, she said, he rolled over in that coffin.
Speaker 2: That story has never left me. It's terrified. Can you
Speaker 2: imagine how caravine that would be, how scary. So I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, there's always creepy, weird thing there, you know.
Speaker 2: Just I'm a grown woman, and to this day, if
Speaker 2: I go there, I won't go alone. I won't go
Speaker 2: out at night alone, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I won't even go and I won't even sleep alone
Speaker 2: in a room. It's like somebody's coming in here with me.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so that's that's actually that's interesting. You said that.
Speaker 1: So are you saying that even if you're inside your house,
Speaker 1: like you sometimes have things happen inside the house, or
Speaker 1: you just don't feel safe when.
Speaker 2: You're not here, really not here, not at my home,
Speaker 2: at my mama's home. She's passed away now. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: when I was there, no, absolutely not. I never felt like,
Speaker 2: of course I was much younger than you know, I
Speaker 2: was a teenager and early adulthood, but no, I never
Speaker 2: felt like I always felt at presence. I guess like
Speaker 2: something's scary. You know like I was never at ease,
Speaker 2: especially at night. It was always just very scary. One
Speaker 2: of my aunts one night. I don't know why. I
Speaker 2: don't know any of the details around this story. I
Speaker 2: just know that something happened one night and she fell
Speaker 2: on the floor and they said she slithered like a
Speaker 2: snake across the floor. Ain't that and have to make
Speaker 2: your blood run cold?
Speaker 1: Some scary stuff? I come back from that.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm just saying there's always some scary, creepy things,
Speaker 2: and that's why I said some things are just strawn
Speaker 2: the certain energies I believe. But I also believe in
Speaker 2: the power of the blood of Jesus, and I know
Speaker 2: I'm covered by that blood and I'm bought by that blood.
Speaker 2: So I'm not afraid of anything, you know, even attacking
Speaker 2: me or anything like that. I just I don't fear
Speaker 2: that because I don't have to hear that. Sure, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to run into his arms, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of it, you know, attacking me or
Speaker 2: notthing like that.
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing to bring up. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not afraid of it, but you're not going to
Speaker 1: run towards its arms.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's foolishness, a.
Speaker 1: Big distinction to make. Yes, I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: area that you've pulled up on Google Earth. This the
Speaker 1: clearing area that you keep seeing anything. Now, you're probably
Speaker 1: already aware of this because you sound like you're you're
Speaker 1: you're pretty smart trying to figure stuff out, Donnie. But
Speaker 1: you know, have you ever looked? There are places where
Speaker 1: things are public record. You know, there's assessor sites, and
Speaker 1: there's is a great hunting app. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you have access to that, but there are ways where,
Speaker 1: you know, if you knew that area, you might be
Speaker 1: able to get some info about like how it is
Speaker 1: registered publicly.
Speaker 2: Yes, I hadn't thought of doing that. You're right though,
Speaker 2: I mean I could probably just go to public records
Speaker 2: at the corrals and get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you might even be able to
Speaker 1: a lot of those places. They'll have websites where you
Speaker 1: can get the same info without having to go into
Speaker 1: the courthouse, oh.
Speaker 2: Actually going in to get it right, get it online? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, cool, Well that's where it's looking at.
Speaker 2: Something else. I was going to tell you I was
Speaker 2: because I love Google Earth. You know, anytime I'm I mean,
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll just pull up a place just to look
Speaker 2: at it, you know, because I love it. But you know,
Speaker 2: when I was doing all this, so I, like I said,
Speaker 2: I live at the foot of a mountain. Well on
Speaker 2: the back side of the mountain, Okay, on the other side.
Speaker 2: It's in a different county, and there's like my husband
Speaker 2: hunts and stuff over there a lot. But I was
Speaker 2: looking just I was actually looking for the lake I
Speaker 2: was telling you about, you know, to kind of see
Speaker 2: like approximately, like how close it would be. Well, I
Speaker 2: was looking on Google Earth, and I noticed between our
Speaker 2: house and like the place I was telling you where
Speaker 2: my husband on hunts, and the other county I found
Speaker 2: I saw and this this is actually just recently. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but I know there's no
Speaker 2: public roads to it. But there's like a place up there.
Speaker 2: It's got like a helicopter landing pad, and it's got
Speaker 2: like you're a transformer, looks like right, like the radio transformer,
Speaker 2: like a power transformer. You know. There's like I don't
Speaker 2: know how many of those, Like there's just like two
Speaker 2: or three buildings and like all these transformers and a
Speaker 2: helicopter landing pad. It's not named or anything, and there's
Speaker 2: no public roads into it. I just I've never seen
Speaker 2: it before. I can tell you that. I just And
Speaker 2: I guess that's why people think people like me sound crazy,
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, you're just reaching now. No, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying it's one thing or another. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: it's weird, and it is. It is very weird. But
Speaker 2: I would guarantee you if people knew everything that it's
Speaker 2: kept from us, nobody would be calling people make me
Speaker 2: crazy because there is absolutely a correlation between government and
Speaker 2: whatever we're seeing. There's no way, there's no way there's
Speaker 2: as many sightings and encounters people going missing. There's no
Speaker 2: way that it can happen that often, and the government
Speaker 2: is not going to be aware of it or take
Speaker 2: it serious or something or another. Okay, but it's like this.
Speaker 2: You know, if they knew like an asteroid was headed
Speaker 2: to the earth and about the we're all about to die,
Speaker 2: you think they're going to tell anybody, No, it will
Speaker 2: cause mass hysteria. And they're not going to tell anybody
Speaker 2: about any of this other stuff too, because they know
Speaker 2: they'd have to deal with a bunch of hysterical people.
Speaker 2: You know, I just I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 2: that we don't see because people number one, refuse to
Speaker 2: see it. It's easier to ignore it and pretend it
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. You don't have to be afraid that way.
Speaker 2: And there's things that are right under our nose that
Speaker 2: people just they don't see it. You know, you have
Speaker 2: to look for You have to look for it sometimes,
Speaker 2: and that's that's just all there is to it. You know,
Speaker 2: they're not going to put anything right in your face
Speaker 2: and they're going to come out and be honest with you.
Speaker 2: They're just going to tell you what you want, what's
Speaker 2: you what they think you need to know. And my
Speaker 2: philosophy in life is trust nobody. Trust nobody one hundred percent. Nobody.
Speaker 2: The one I trust one hundred percent is God. Everybody else,
Speaker 2: whether they do or not have the capacity to hurt
Speaker 2: you or to lie to you or anything. You see,
Speaker 2: we're humans, right, I trust nobody a hundred percent, and least.
Speaker 1: Of all our governments, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Not just our government, any government, right.
Speaker 1: I agree with you that I mean more than likely, Yes,
Speaker 1: there there's information in different agencies I would I would guess.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is is that right now.
Speaker 1: The folk. If there's weird stuff that's going to come out,
Speaker 1: it's going to be the UFO stuff, and that I
Speaker 1: think probably if there's big foot stuff, it is buried
Speaker 1: so deep it just takes the right oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: the right person with the right connections to find it out.
Speaker 1: Like if someone's listening and has connections to that, you
Speaker 1: should do it hypothetically anyways.
Speaker 2: Right, Another thing, well, can I say this real quick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Thing is such a running joke now. People do not
Speaker 2: take it serious. That's the very least thing. If the
Speaker 2: government were like involved in this, behind this, they don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about that because they know nobody takes
Speaker 2: it serious except for the ones that have seen it
Speaker 2: with their own eyes. But they know a bigfoot could
Speaker 2: walk in my house right now and go cook supper.
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, Like, nobody's gonna leave
Speaker 2: me because so they don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 1: Another thing I was going to ask you about your
Speaker 1: area to see if you've looked into it yet, is
Speaker 1: have you done just the basic search about you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, what time you're in, what county, all
Speaker 1: the things about that area. Have you looked in different
Speaker 1: places to see if there's been other sightings reported as well?
Speaker 2: I have. Yeah, I've looked at like I googled, like
Speaker 2: you know, sightings in Virginia, you know, and like it'll
Speaker 2: give you like a map of like you know, I
Speaker 2: guess like it'd be like little red dots, you know,
Speaker 2: all of the state. And there have been other ones
Speaker 2: around here. But you know, at the same time, not
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna report things they see because they're very ridicule,
Speaker 2: you know, and they just like I didn't report anything.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna call and me be like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, i'self something maybe in a big foot over
Speaker 2: my field. You know, like nobody, especially right here. People
Speaker 2: got a lot of pride as far as like you know,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna they're gonna do anything that's gonna make
Speaker 2: them look crazy or you know, And that's so sad
Speaker 2: because you can't be honest. You can't tell people because
Speaker 2: you do, you get ridiculed or you know, you get mopped,
Speaker 2: and it's to the point where you even question yourself,
Speaker 2: like I told your earlier and it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: maybe did I see that? Is that what I saw?
Speaker 2: Can you even try to find ways to convince yourself
Speaker 2: that you didn't see it? With the bottom line is
Speaker 2: I did. I did see it. Nothing changes that, and
Speaker 2: that's all there is to it. Like, if nothing ever
Speaker 2: comes out of it, nobody ever believes me. I still
Speaker 2: saw it. It was still there. That's there's nothing I
Speaker 2: can do about it. Nobody believes me. They just want
Speaker 2: to believe me.
Speaker 1: But I know what I saw, Donnie. Let's so let's let's,
Speaker 1: you know, a hypothetical question for you. Let's say that
Speaker 1: you indeed do have at least one bigfoot that's in
Speaker 1: the area of your property or in bordering areas. What
Speaker 1: kind of interaction would you want to have with that?
Speaker 1: Knowing let's say if you knew one hundred percent yes
Speaker 1: it's there, what kind of interaction would you want to
Speaker 1: have with that in your area?
Speaker 2: Well? Well, okay, what kind of interaction? Well, I would
Speaker 2: like to have a mutual respect, Okay, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: going to hurt you. You're not going to hurt me.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to leave you being you're really
Speaker 2: maybe I wouldn't you know, I don't want anything coming,
Speaker 2: any threat at all to come to my family or
Speaker 2: to my friend door. But I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: threaten in anything else either. You know, if it's there,
Speaker 2: it's there. And you know, just because it's not written
Speaker 2: in the Bible, and just because it's not written in
Speaker 2: our history books or are you know, geography books, does
Speaker 2: not mean things aren't real. Okay. I mean there's no
Speaker 2: giraffes mentioned in the Bible either, but they're real, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Or or on the other hand, maybe it is written
Speaker 1: in the Bible. I mean, just oh yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many different ways to look at this.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the thing about you know, us not having
Speaker 1: a specimen that is publicly known, is we don't know
Speaker 1: one hundred percent what it is that's out there. You know,
Speaker 1: it could be undiscovered grade ape where it could be
Speaker 1: a relative of a human or I mean there's some
Speaker 1: people that even say, uh, giant or nephelin, all sorts
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 2: Right. I think it's sentient whatever it is, it is
Speaker 2: syndient being. I think it is capable of emotion and
Speaker 2: constructive thought processing. You see what I'm saying. Do you
Speaker 2: don't say what I'm trying to say. Real. I think
Speaker 2: it is very what's the word I'm looking for? It
Speaker 2: is very methodical, not in a bad way necessarily, But
Speaker 2: you don't you have to if you were gonna be
Speaker 2: that elusive. You don't get that way from being stupid
Speaker 2: or being you know, just like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you have to have some kind of thought process. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you had to have some kind of thought process, like
Speaker 2: a method to the madness basically. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: if there was if I knew for sure there was
Speaker 2: a big fit around these mountains, you know, just you
Speaker 2: do you, babe? You know who? Just don't. I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna mess with you, and you ain't gonna mess with me.
Speaker 2: And that's all there is to it. You know, I
Speaker 2: have no problem, you know, even like bears and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't consider anything a threat unless it
Speaker 2: is I direct threat to me. Like I come in
Speaker 2: my house one time, about ten twelve years ago, and
Speaker 2: there's a five foot four black snake, and how long
Speaker 2: it was laying in my hallway. No, normally I would
Speaker 2: never kill a black snake because they're good for killing
Speaker 2: rats and mice and they keep they killed other poisonous snakes,
Speaker 2: but this one came in my house and I told him,
Speaker 2: I said, dude, you had the whole earth to good
Speaker 2: one which you came in my house. And now I
Speaker 2: gotta kid. You know you found your way in once.
Speaker 2: You can't live now. So unless it's a direct thrick
Speaker 2: to me, I don't consider it a threat. Oh unless
Speaker 2: it's a grasshopper. I'm picturefied of those things. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: if you want to see seven kinds of crazy, put
Speaker 2: a grasshopper on me. You'll see ter them.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they don't care the devil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ooh oh yeah, I'm scared at them.
Speaker 1: Donnie.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm a nut.
Speaker 1: No, not at all awesome. But I did have one
Speaker 1: last question I just randomly thought of. Is sure, and
Speaker 1: you don't have to be super specific because we're keeping
Speaker 1: the area vague, but is the area also known for
Speaker 1: other weird things that people experience or things like that?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like necessarily notorious, Like you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like people say, oh, that area is known
Speaker 2: for blah blah blah. But I know I do know this,
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to mention a name. I mean
Speaker 2: I can million the name so you can look at
Speaker 2: up later, but on the podcast, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: mention the name. We had a hunter, a hunter that
Speaker 2: went in the woods to hunt a while back, and
Speaker 2: he's never been seen since, like not a scrap and
Speaker 2: a never been seeing six nothing would ever found. You
Speaker 2: just never come home. And they have searched and I
Speaker 2: mean I'm talking searched relentlessly. Well not so much now
Speaker 2: because it have been years ago. Yeah, he never never
Speaker 2: come back again. That's weird now, that is.
Speaker 1: And it's that those sort of things always make me wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, especially I'm sure you've seen the missing forms.
Speaker 1: Some of those definitely get extremely weird, and it makes
Speaker 1: you think twice about going out in the woods by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Atten. When I was little, we would run
Speaker 2: the woods like swinging on great guns. We didn't we
Speaker 2: didn't have a care in the world. But now I
Speaker 2: don't go in the woods unless I'm armed. And that's
Speaker 2: just the truth of it. Not necessarily just because the bears.
Speaker 2: You don't know what you're going to come across. I mean,
Speaker 2: people are scarier than bears, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I feel like they're a bigger threat than a bear,
Speaker 2: probably even a bigger threat than a bigfoot. But I
Speaker 2: don't go in the woods now that I'm not armed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. A lot of researchers I talked to,
Speaker 1: and I think with good reason. You know, they are
Speaker 1: more concerned with running into people out in the woods
Speaker 1: that are just bad news. Yeah, and just bad, bad, bad,
Speaker 1: bad people You've got. You've got to be prepared to
Speaker 1: protect yourself or others that are around.
Speaker 2: But Donnie, well, you don't threaten us with a good
Speaker 2: time around here.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Western Virginia is ready ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm your Heckleberry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Donnie, it has been it's been fun chatting
Speaker 1: with you today. You've got some really interesting things going
Speaker 1: on down there. I hope that, you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: can keep me up to date with any any other
Speaker 1: things you notice, and hopefully doesn't get too crazy down there.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like you may be maybe having some
Speaker 1: weird things happen, So we'll see what comes next for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely I've got cameras outside the house now
Speaker 2: like the ring camera. It's not ring, it's like blink. Okay,
Speaker 2: I got them on, you know, just dinner ship in
Speaker 2: front back whatever. But anyway, yeah, and I do appreciate
Speaker 2: you talking with me. Sorry when a little adhd on you,
Speaker 2: but you know it happens, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Well, well we'll be keeping in touch.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sure, thank you so much for ba.
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