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Speaker 1: They always teach us in radio one thought per break.

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Why can't I have a podcast it does the same thing,

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or maybe several podcasts seventeen different subjects and walks of life.

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Ero dot net A r Roe dot Net. Thank you

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so much for supporting me over the years. Good morning,

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How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic? Vance? I gotta tell you, I did not

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watch the NFL this past weekend the same way after

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experiencing Love You Bum because I went into that. I

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swear to God as a smarter fan of the sport

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because I want more BUM.

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Speaker 2: I want more bum too. I think this world wants

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more bum.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's you have introduced me to something

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that It's like I knew what was going on, I

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knew what kind of a leader he was, But why

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is it not as effective as the way that you're

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showing that to us in this.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I really don't know, but I

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think that we've done a good job of telling a

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story about a really good coach and a really good

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human being who uplifted a bunch of C and B

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players up to A players, and he he uplifted a

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whole town. He uplifted Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I would love to know how many people in the

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real business world, and I'm talking about like banking and

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and things on the stock market and stuff, are going

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to watch this and say, I want to be like bum.

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I want to be able to motivate those that I

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know that might be a little bit off with their

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with their gift, but they've got something that we need

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as a team, and I'm going to give them the

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bump treatment.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's an interesting way that you put that is.

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You know, in World War Two, one thing that we

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talk about in the documentary is that bomb never understood

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why drill sergeant needed to yell at him to motivate

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him to do his job as a vilitary man, as

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a fighting serviceman. And I think he brought that into coaching,

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that you could you could communicate with an individual, a

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professional football player, an athlete, a person, and you could

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uplift and motivate without yelling, but by coaching and inspiring

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and uplifting.

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Speaker 1: Vance you really. I mean, when I saw this in

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the documentary and then you bringing it up right now,

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I'm shot back to a moment where where I had

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an operations manager radio station that was yelling at me.

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And what I did was I put a piece of

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paper in front of him and a pen, and I said,

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if you want to talk to me, I'll read it.

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Do not sit there and use your vocal tones because

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I'm not tapping in.

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Speaker 2: I think most people are motivated by being encouraged, not

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by being discouraged being beaten up. And I think that

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really plays out. You know. One of the things one

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of the players that meant a lot to me. You know,

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we had some great interviews Jerry Jones, Peyton Manning Well.

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One of the great interviews with Robert Brazil and he

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was the captain of the Oilers and he was also

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mentored by bum Phillips. But when you're around Robert Brazil,

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he gets just as excited about your success as he

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does his own. That is a fun person to be around.

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Speaker 1: So have you done that with people? You kind of

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look at him and you're going and they're having these

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great moments. You go, I'm living vicariously through you. Keep

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doing what you're doing because you are motivating the masses.

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Speaker 2: I do. It is fun, it's great. And you know,

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one of the things with lucky number of Productions, my

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production companies. We've got other documentaries in the works, but

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we want to tell stories that inspire, uplift, and educate.

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I don't want to tell stories about people that have

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done bad things. Maybe you make more money that way,

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but that's not our game or our goal. Our goal

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is to tell stories about great people that have made

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a great impact, whether it's in sports or whether it's

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in just life in general. And I think that carries

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over and I think that's you know, my wife when

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she watches Love You Bum, she's not a football fan,

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but it brought her to tears, and she said she

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was just so entertained and uplifted by the film that

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you couldn't stop watching it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cause you find yourself. What I did is I

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kept hitting rewind because I would hear something that I

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really liked, and then I would write it in my

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daily journal, because I mean, there's so much going on

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here that if you don't write down these quotes, it's

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going to fly over your head. And I just don't

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Speaker 2: Oh, he had some great quotes, quotes. He had a

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great sense of humor. Yeah, and I think that really

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pulled people into his world. Is that he used the

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humor a lot of times as a way to offset

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some people that may have been a little discouraged or

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Speaker 1: I first came in contact with you because of what

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you've done with John Wooten. I mean, I'm not going

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to lie to you. In front of me every day

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is a John Wooten book, because that man is in

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control of my life and only because of the way

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that he believed. And now that I've learned this about

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bum Phillips, it's like, Holy God, why is it that

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that it takes these documentaries to get me in line?

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Speaker 2: I think that's great, though. I think that we all

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learned through while observing other talented people. You know, I've learned.

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I've learned so much in this documentary, not only about

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bum Phillips, but about some other great football players. I mean,

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you look at Terry Bradshaw and interviewed him. He's just

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a treasure to be around, and he's always so encouraging

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to other people. It's just it's motivating.

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Speaker 1: So then what was it like to be with people

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who had their own interpretation of bum And the reason

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why it's because you know, it's like our parents, we

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all know what mom did in her story, but we

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all have interpretations. And I think that's what your documentary

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proves too. We all had this amazing experience, but we

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all had our own interpretation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's a great way to

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look at this film too. And you when I interpret

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back to, you know, the things that were really interesting

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about about his life. But you know, we in the

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film too. We also bring you back to a time

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of nostalgia back in the seventies, before we had iPhones

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and social media that sort of you know, discourage people.

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when kids would play football out in the front yard

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and it'll be seven eight o'clock in mom and dad

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would have to call him in to eat dinner because

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they didn't want to come in from playing. So I

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think it's kind of fun to bring people back to

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that period of time and nostalgia when the kids were

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outside playing, they weren't inside, they weren't on iPhones. And

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learn from too, is that you know, get outside, have fun,

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get to know your neighbor.

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Speaker 1: Go get dirty man, go play with the soil. Go

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eat a potato that you planted back in the spring.

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I mean, that's the way my dad was. And it's like, okay,

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there is a payoff on the other end if we

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all work together. And that's what I picked up from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know when he said when he starts,

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you know, like hold the line. When he's talking about

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hold the line, he's talking about the team pulling together,

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and they were and bringing the team to get One

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would have a workout where he'd bring family and friends.

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and they would practice, but they would all have their

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friends and family around because Bum said over and over again,

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Vance Howard coming

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up next. The name of the documentary love You Bum.

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We're back with Vance Howard. You talk about how Houston

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was lacking a winning team like that, that's pretty much

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what the NFL is all about. Even major League Baseball

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is about that, But isn't that what creates the real

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hardcore fan. We've got to have those losses, even with

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the players. If we don't have those losses, how do

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we become great? If we don't learn new tricks? And

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it and say, we can learn from this, but we're

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going to do it as a team, and we're going

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to motivate each other.

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Speaker 2: And that's what he did. That's I think that was

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one of his gifts. That was one of his powers

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that he had, was bringing people together, really team up

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in lock arms together. And I think that's sort of

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an inspiration in and of itself. And so there was

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daughters was sitting behind me, and she made the comment

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she almost broke into tears when she saw the opening scene,

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the silhouette of Bum walking out of the out of

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the clubhouse onto the field. It's just it's just it's

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just interesting to see how how much he was loved.

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you. I looked at my wife

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the very second that that's on there, and I said,

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that I can hang up on my business wall? Because

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that is something it's it's it's a classic shot. And

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and are you going to market something like that to

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where we can get a lot of posters out of this?

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Phil long Goes, come to me and he says, I

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want to show this to my players. I want to

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show this to Bill. This is the way a team

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needs to be built. And he inspires his team that

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think is going to be planted in so many's hearts,

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so many people's hearts. I like playing. It's like playing

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with your dad, a nice dad. And I look at

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that as being Okay, if the seventeen year old kid

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that's playing baseball or football is looking for that leadership,

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go get your dad and teach him something. Get him

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to watch this this thing here and get that relationship built.

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storm and say, go get your dad, let's let let's

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let's work together on this one. Go get your family,

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Let's come on, we're going to work. We're going to

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build this right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And he did a great job with that. You know,

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Dan Pastor and he talks about that. Damn Pastor Inne

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he brought him up to be or an a and

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he did it through love and he did it through compassion,

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because you know Dan, Dan had a lot of fun

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with the Oilers, and but Dan ended up being a

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great quarterback and a great person. I think a lot

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of that's attest toment to bomb coaching him not only

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through football but through life.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Fox Sunday Morning person when it comes

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to those sports. I want this book to be talked

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about with those four people that are on that episode,

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because I'll bet you every single one of them were

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shaped because of Bum Phillips.

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and he talks in the documentary about how Bum really

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took him under his wing. He was a young man,

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he was in his early twenties, he was frightened, he

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was scared, he was playing for a professional team, and

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will take so much. He gets so excited about your

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success just as much as he does as his own.

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And people like that just fun to be around.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty cool that this documentary is coming out

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when it is, because I mean, I don't know how

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it is around the rest of the nation, But the

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closer we get to Thanksgiving in the new year, it's

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all about football and it's all about family, and I

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believe that this is the perfect instrument to put in

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the center of that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a great time to show the film, and

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so we're real proud of it. And it's going to

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come live on November twenty fifth, and yeah, should be

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out on all the streaming services, you know, Apple, Hulu, Amazon, Netflix,

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So you know, go watch the film.

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Speaker 1: Love you bum, Well, you got to come back to

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this show because I know the thing is is that

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there's no way you're going to stop just a bum.

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I cannot wait to find out who you're going to

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focus in on the next one.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're doing it right now. We're in pre production

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on the Great Cattle Drivers of the late eighteen hundreds,

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you know, Captain King and good Night Loving and tell

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that story of how they changed America with the Great

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Cattle Drives of the late eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Montana and Wyoming. Dude, you're speaking my street.

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That means you've got to come back to I can

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let you know what we did in the night time

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nineties into two thousand with those cattle All right, will

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you be brilliant today? Okay, mister Vance, thank

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Speaker 2: You so much.