Speaker 1: They always teach us in radio one thought per break.
Why can't I have a podcast it does the same thing,
or maybe several podcasts seventeen different subjects and walks of life.
Ero dot net A r Roe dot Net. Thank you
so much for supporting me over the years. Good morning,
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic? Vance? I gotta tell you, I did not
watch the NFL this past weekend the same way after
experiencing Love You Bum because I went into that. I
swear to God as a smarter fan of the sport
because I want more BUM.
Speaker 2: I want more bum too. I think this world wants
more bum.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's you have introduced me to something
that It's like I knew what was going on, I
knew what kind of a leader he was, But why
is it not as effective as the way that you're
showing that to us in this.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I really don't know, but I
think that we've done a good job of telling a
story about a really good coach and a really good
human being who uplifted a bunch of C and B
players up to A players, and he he uplifted a
whole town. He uplifted Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: I would love to know how many people in the
real business world, and I'm talking about like banking and
and things on the stock market and stuff, are going
to watch this and say, I want to be like bum.
I want to be able to motivate those that I
know that might be a little bit off with their
with their gift, but they've got something that we need
as a team, and I'm going to give them the
bump treatment.
Speaker 2: You know, It's an interesting way that you put that is.
You know, in World War Two, one thing that we
talk about in the documentary is that bomb never understood
why drill sergeant needed to yell at him to motivate
him to do his job as a vilitary man, as
a fighting serviceman. And I think he brought that into coaching,
that you could you could communicate with an individual, a
professional football player, an athlete, a person, and you could
uplift and motivate without yelling, but by coaching and inspiring
and uplifting.
Speaker 1: Vance you really. I mean, when I saw this in
the documentary and then you bringing it up right now,
I'm shot back to a moment where where I had
an operations manager radio station that was yelling at me.
And what I did was I put a piece of
paper in front of him and a pen, and I said,
if you want to talk to me, I'll read it.
Do not sit there and use your vocal tones because
I'm not tapping in.
Speaker 2: I think most people are motivated by being encouraged, not
by being discouraged being beaten up. And I think that
really plays out. You know. One of the things one
of the players that meant a lot to me. You know,
we had some great interviews Jerry Jones, Peyton Manning Well.
One of the great interviews with Robert Brazil and he
was the captain of the Oilers and he was also
mentored by bum Phillips. But when you're around Robert Brazil,
he gets just as excited about your success as he
does his own. That is a fun person to be around.
Speaker 1: So have you done that with people? You kind of
look at him and you're going and they're having these
great moments. You go, I'm living vicariously through you. Keep
doing what you're doing because you are motivating the masses.
Speaker 2: I do. It is fun, it's great. And you know,
one of the things with lucky number of Productions, my
production companies. We've got other documentaries in the works, but
we want to tell stories that inspire, uplift, and educate.
I don't want to tell stories about people that have
done bad things. Maybe you make more money that way,
but that's not our game or our goal. Our goal
is to tell stories about great people that have made
a great impact, whether it's in sports or whether it's
in just life in general. And I think that carries
over and I think that's you know, my wife when
she watches Love You Bum, she's not a football fan,
but it brought her to tears, and she said she
was just so entertained and uplifted by the film that
you couldn't stop watching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause you find yourself. What I did is I
kept hitting rewind because I would hear something that I
really liked, and then I would write it in my
daily journal, because I mean, there's so much going on
here that if you don't write down these quotes, it's
going to fly over your head. And I just don't
want that.
Speaker 2: Oh, he had some great quotes, quotes. He had a
great sense of humor. Yeah, and I think that really
pulled people into his world. Is that he used the
humor a lot of times as a way to offset
some people that may have been a little discouraged or
a little upset.
Speaker 1: I first came in contact with you because of what
you've done with John Wooten. I mean, I'm not going
to lie to you. In front of me every day
is a John Wooten book, because that man is in
control of my life and only because of the way
that he believed. And now that I've learned this about
bum Phillips, it's like, Holy God, why is it that
that it takes these documentaries to get me in line?
Speaker 2: I think that's great, though. I think that we all
learned through while observing other talented people. You know, I've learned.
I've learned so much in this documentary, not only about
bum Phillips, but about some other great football players. I mean,
you look at Terry Bradshaw and interviewed him. He's just
a treasure to be around, and he's always so encouraging
to other people. It's just it's motivating.
Speaker 1: So then what was it like to be with people
who had their own interpretation of bum And the reason
why it's because you know, it's like our parents, we
all know what mom did in her story, but we
all have interpretations. And I think that's what your documentary
proves too. We all had this amazing experience, but we
all had our own interpretation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's a great way to
look at this film too. And you when I interpret
Bomb again, I go back to hard work, I go
back to, you know, the things that were really interesting
about about his life. But you know, we in the
film too. We also bring you back to a time
of nostalgia back in the seventies, before we had iPhones
and social media that sort of you know, discourage people.
I think in some ways back in the day when
when kids would play football out in the front yard
and it'll be seven eight o'clock in mom and dad
would have to call him in to eat dinner because
they didn't want to come in from playing. So I
think it's kind of fun to bring people back to
that period of time and nostalgia when the kids were
outside playing, they weren't inside, they weren't on iPhones. And
I think that's that kind of something we can all
learn from too, is that you know, get outside, have fun,
get to know your neighbor.
Speaker 1: Go get dirty man, go play with the soil. Go
eat a potato that you planted back in the spring.
I mean, that's the way my dad was. And it's like, okay,
I'm listening to you man, and all of a sudden,
there is a payoff on the other end if we
all work together. And that's what I picked up from
Bomb here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know when he said when he starts,
you know, like hold the line. When he's talking about
hold the line, he's talking about the team pulling together,
and they were and bringing the team to get One
of the most inspirational parts of the film, if you'll remember,
is that he would have a once a week he
would have a workout where he'd bring family and friends.
They'd bring their dog, they bring their kids, their spouse,
and they would practice, but they would all have their
friends and family around because Bum said over and over again,
You'll played harder for your family than you will anybody else.
Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Vance Howard coming
up next. The name of the documentary love You Bum.
We're back with Vance Howard. You talk about how Houston
was lacking a winning team like that, that's pretty much
what the NFL is all about. Even major League Baseball
is about that, But isn't that what creates the real
hardcore fan. We've got to have those losses, even with
the players. If we don't have those losses, how do
we become great? If we don't learn new tricks? And
Bum seemed to be that guy that would look at
it and say, we can learn from this, but we're
going to do it as a team, and we're going
to motivate each other.
Speaker 2: And that's what he did. That's I think that was
one of his gifts. That was one of his powers
that he had, was bringing people together, really team up
in lock arms together. And I think that's sort of
an inspiration in and of itself. And so there was
a you know, there's a lot of layers to this film,
and you also look at we premiered this as south
By Southwest because we want it south By Southwest. His
daughters were there and she was sitting one of the
daughters was sitting behind me, and she made the comment
she almost broke into tears when she saw the opening scene,
the silhouette of Bum walking out of the out of
the clubhouse onto the field. It's just it's just it's
just interesting to see how how much he was loved.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you. I looked at my wife
the very second that that's on there, and I said,
that's a poster. Why is this not on a poster
that I can hang up on my business wall? Because
that is something it's it's it's a classic shot. And
and are you going to market something like that to
where we can get a lot of posters out of this?
Speaker 2: Well, we maybe we're just pleased to have it out there.
We're pleased to have it where people can watch it.
And and I think people are really going to enjoy it.
I think it's going to create sort of a buzz. Maybe.
You know. We've had the coach of sam Eastern State University,
Phil long Goes, come to me and he says, I
want to show this to my players. I want to
show this to Bill. This is the way a team
needs to be built. And he inspires his team that
way too, by conversation, by educating, by motivating.
Speaker 1: So now this quote, and this is one that I
think is going to be planted in so many's hearts,
so many people's hearts. I like playing. It's like playing
with your dad, a nice dad. And I look at
that as being Okay, if the seventeen year old kid
that's playing baseball or football is looking for that leadership,
go get your dad and teach him something. Get him
to watch this this thing here and get that relationship built.
Because something tells me that bum would look at the
storm and say, go get your dad, let's let let's
let's work together on this one. Go get your family,
Let's come on, we're going to work. We're going to
build this right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he did a great job with that. You know,
Dan Pastor and he talks about that. Damn Pastor Inne
talks about how he helped coach kilm up and even
you know, one of the other coaches told me one
time that Dan may have been a C player, but
he brought him up to be or an a and
he did it through love and he did it through compassion,
because you know Dan, Dan had a lot of fun
with the Oilers, and but Dan ended up being a
great quarterback and a great person. I think a lot
of that's attest toment to bomb coaching him not only
through football but through life.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Fox Sunday Morning person when it comes
to those sports. I want this book to be talked
about with those four people that are on that episode,
because I'll bet you every single one of them were
shaped because of Bum Phillips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they would. He shaped so many
And you know, if I said it, and I'll say
it again, you know one of my favorites was Robert Brazil. Yes,
and you know he was the captain of the team,
and he talks in the documentary about how Bum really
took him under his wing. He was a young man,
he was in his early twenties, he was frightened, he
was scared, he was playing for a professional team, and
Bum made sure that he was protected and taken care
of and mentored and how much he enjoyed that. And
one of my favorites was Robert Brazil Number one. Robert
will take so much. He gets so excited about your
success just as much as he does as his own.
And people like that just fun to be around.
Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty cool that this documentary is coming out
when it is, because I mean, I don't know how
it is around the rest of the nation, But the
closer we get to Thanksgiving in the new year, it's
all about football and it's all about family, and I
believe that this is the perfect instrument to put in
the center of that.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a great time to show the film, and
so we're real proud of it. And it's going to
come live on November twenty fifth, and yeah, should be
out on all the streaming services, you know, Apple, Hulu, Amazon, Netflix,
So you know, go watch the film.
Speaker 1: Love you bum, Well, you got to come back to
this show because I know the thing is is that
there's no way you're going to stop just a bum.
I cannot wait to find out who you're going to
focus in on the next one.
Speaker 2: Well, we're doing it right now. We're in pre production
on the Great Cattle Drivers of the late eighteen hundreds,
you know, Captain King and good Night Loving and tell
that story of how they changed America with the Great
Cattle Drives of the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: I'm from Montana and Wyoming. Dude, you're speaking my street.
That means you've got to come back to I can
let you know what we did in the night time
nineties into two thousand with those cattle All right, will
you be brilliant today? Okay, mister Vance, thank
Speaker 2: You so much.