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<v Speaker 1>This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The

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<v Speaker 1>show is sponsored by G three of Parol. I view's

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<v Speaker 1>and not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor or iHeartMedia.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made business executive

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<v Speaker 1>here to help you find your success from the New

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<v Speaker 1>York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His

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<v Speaker 1>global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic

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<v Speaker 1>proof that the American dream is alive. And well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Weber. I've been thinking maybe it's time we all

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<v Speaker 2>just shut up now. I recognize that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most insulting statements you can make to any individual, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>without curse words. I'm not concerned, though, because I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>this collective body of all of us, just shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hear yourselves? It's embarrassing, it's dangerous, it's stupidity

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<v Speaker 2>beyond belief. What has happened to us? Our speech patterns

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<v Speaker 2>are flawed by the you knows, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>every sentence he comes out of your mouth. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know. Then if you're not doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so. And then of course it's penetrating our every conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>every sentence. And on top of that, we're a divided nation.

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<v Speaker 2>We're waiting for a travesty to unite us. A former

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<v Speaker 2>president has escaped assassination twice in two months. Few, if any,

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<v Speaker 2>are expressing outrage, let alone concern. If that's not enough,

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<v Speaker 2>we have two presidential candidates. When they open their mouths,

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<v Speaker 2>all you get is nonsense. We have two major wars.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's talking to one another to bring them to

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<v Speaker 2>an end. People are dying. Donald Trump said it. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants to come into the first day in office wars.

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<v Speaker 2>People are dying. You don't care what side. People are dying,

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<v Speaker 2>young men, young women, They're dying. Free speech is under attack.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't agree with the loudest voice, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to talk, and if you do, there are repercussions.

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<v Speaker 2>Every narrative is spun. The impossible has happened. There are

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<v Speaker 2>versions of the truth. There are no versions of the truth,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are now Somehow the phrase can I be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you? Has penetrated our culture does that signify

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<v Speaker 2>that everything else you say is a lie. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to have the skills of a prosecuting attorney to get

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<v Speaker 2>a straight answer. Now, enough, shut up. It's time for

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<v Speaker 2>the silent treatment. It's time for the strong silent type.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned. As Jack Nicholson said, you can't handle the truth,

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<v Speaker 2>and the truth is we're in a mouthstorm of incompetent communicators.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to rethink what we say. You need game,

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<v Speaker 2>you need honesty, less is more, Know what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>think what you say, or make it simple. Just shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to hear from you now. In all

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<v Speaker 2>of life, I try to avoid politics. I'm a recluse.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to avoid celebrity downfalls. I'm a recluse. I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to avoid the news. It's no longer news, it's commentary,

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<v Speaker 2>it's opinions. I'm a recluse. I try to avoid fashion

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<v Speaker 2>that tasteless have taken over. I don't want to look

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a recluse. Having said that, the problem is, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know if I'm saying the word right. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it recluse or a recluse. I'm gonna say recluse. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm part of society. You can't avoid the dumbing down

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<v Speaker 2>of America. And I'm on the radio and podcast, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a host. How can I avoid it? My show business,

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<v Speaker 2>cultural and lifestyle A statement I have to observe in

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<v Speaker 2>life and report. Enough said. I would be the first

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<v Speaker 2>to follow my own advice and shut up Mark, But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. Now Tonight, some straightforward talk on how to

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<v Speaker 2>talk and joining me my lawyer, My calls my son

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Weber.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, La, Hello, Wow, you're on a especially big tear tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>The truth is, you're right, You're right. I can't deny

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying. You know how many times people say

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<v Speaker 3>you know so you know I'm guilty of it too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guilty of it too.

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<v Speaker 4>But I hear your frustration. I hear your frustration.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we can't even get straight answers out of our

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<v Speaker 3>politicians more than others. I think everybody could make their

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<v Speaker 3>own judgment about that. But I'll tell you what a

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<v Speaker 3>what a week it's been. I've never been so busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knew there'd be so much law to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's going on in the world right now is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned some of the things, but the mayor now

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<v Speaker 2>of New York City has been in. Oh boy, we

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<v Speaker 2>have Diddy, who's a public enemy number one. We have

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<v Speaker 2>was ranging, we have assassination attempts going on. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, where do you want to start? I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>say Eric Adams. Now, when he came to office, I

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<v Speaker 3>was skeptical, right, I was skeptical of a few things,

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<v Speaker 3>but I I thought he had the intent to do

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing, and especially coming after Deblasio, I was

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<v Speaker 3>looking at I was looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything after Deblasio. Although I must say I was

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<v Speaker 2>rooting for Curtis Sleewar, our friend from Wabcity.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was always been a straight shooter, has always helped

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<v Speaker 2>the city, and I kind of wanted to see him

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<v Speaker 2>get into office.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had Eric Adams, you know, former police. He's

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<v Speaker 3>taken some positions that are great. He's taken some positions

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<v Speaker 3>not so great. But I will tell you, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care who the mayor is. To wake up and find

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<v Speaker 3>out that he has been criminally charged for corruption, for bribery,

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<v Speaker 3>for accepting illegal campaign contributions, for taking gifts that he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't disclose, for essentially being Oh my gosh, a puppet

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<v Speaker 3>of the Turkish government or Turkish business officials is really

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<v Speaker 4>Embarrassing, it's upsetting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's upsetting as a New Yorker to see this.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's true, is there any explanation for it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough because it's not one thing to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I receive these minor benefits.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't even disclose it.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that was happening over the past

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<v Speaker 3>ten months is they were collecting a lot of people's

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<v Speaker 3>cell phones, and this indictment. You see conversations. The conversations

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<v Speaker 3>are about hotel rooms and flights where he's not paying

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<v Speaker 3>the full price of a flight or a hotel room.

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<v Speaker 3>And the question is why if he could provide some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of legitimate explanation, if he could say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, New York City to come to Turkey.

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<v Speaker 3>Problem with that is he decided to streamline the building

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<v Speaker 3>of a Turkish consulate that was against safety regulations. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is as he's receiving benefits. I mean, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he didn't disclose what he was receiving is problematic.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that he allegedly didn't put down on the

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<v Speaker 3>campaign finance form what he was supposed to put down

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<v Speaker 3>as a considered fraud. And when you talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>charges that he's facing, one could be five years, one

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<v Speaker 3>could be twenty years. So how much he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>fight this versus take a deal and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence is. But right now he has turned this

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<v Speaker 3>into a political argument. He has said that they're coming

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<v Speaker 3>after me, The federal government's coming after me.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a target on my back.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds so much like Donald Trump, and yet he's

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<v Speaker 3>a Democrat, and he was saying things that were arguably

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<v Speaker 3>against the Biden administration, and we're arguably against the Democratic mission.

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<v Speaker 3>He took a hardline stance on immigration, blaming the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Some speculate that they're only coming after him because of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a little hogwash. I think these are

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<v Speaker 3>real charges. The Feds are not going to come after

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<v Speaker 3>you unless they have something, and clearly they have built

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<v Speaker 3>up quite the case against him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just disappointing to say so.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in serious trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>From your perspective, it's almost like a classic case of

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<v Speaker 3>corruption that you see in the movies or comic books.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Gotham City, It's like the mayor who was

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<v Speaker 3>on the take. That's what he's being accused of.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Mayor in New York City history to be criminally indicted

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<v Speaker 3>while in office.

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<v Speaker 4>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the ten million dollars that they claim he benefited

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<v Speaker 2>or it took.

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<v Speaker 3>So the way that I understand it is that he

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<v Speaker 3>used straw donations, secret donations, not what they were supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be, covering it up because what he would receive

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<v Speaker 3>would apply for the city's matching funds programs. So it

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<v Speaker 3>gives political candidates public funds to match small donations. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>New York City residents, they might not be able to

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<v Speaker 3>donate as much money as they can, so there's this

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<v Speaker 3>program put in place that would match it. And because

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<v Speaker 3>he allegedly was not being truthful about these donations and

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<v Speaker 3>was engaging in fraud, he reaped over ten million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in matching funds based on these.

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<v Speaker 2>False for his campaign, not for his pocket.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct for the campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, that's bad. That's bad. That's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked him. I'm sorry to hear it. What else

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<v Speaker 2>we got? What else are you on this week? Doing?

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<v Speaker 3>All Shawn Combs, All Shawn Combs, everything of what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he in trouble?

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<v Speaker 4>He's in very serious trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>I think with sex trafficking and racketeering charges where you're

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<v Speaker 3>basically accused of operating a criminal organization, Yeah, I'd say

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<v Speaker 3>he's in trouble. And I've spoken to a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>analysts who believe that this is just the start that

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be hit with an amended indictment with

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<v Speaker 3>more charges that might include miners.

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<v Speaker 2>How come it comes out all of a sudden and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a flood of information.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be that everybody knew that it was an

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<v Speaker 3>open secret, but nobody wanted to come forward. They were

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<v Speaker 3>afraid they would be implicated. They were afraid of Shawn Combs.

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<v Speaker 3>But remember what started this. What started this was all

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<v Speaker 3>of those civil lawsuits that were filed against him starting

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<v Speaker 3>last year. And if it wasn't for those lawsuits, this

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<v Speaker 3>probably wouldn't have had happened. And it's a remarkable thing

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<v Speaker 3>to say, because if this was going on since they

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<v Speaker 3>claim two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, why

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<v Speaker 3>he's being charged with this in twenty twenty four is.

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<v Speaker 4>A very fair question.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, the United States Attorney who is

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<v Speaker 3>prosecuting this case was asked that question and did not

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<v Speaker 3>have a satisfactory answer.

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<v Speaker 4>He couldn't explain why.

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<v Speaker 2>Changing the subject one more time? Am I crazy? I

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier that no one seems to care that former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump was almost assassinated twice? Am I being too strong?

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<v Speaker 4>It's not in the news as much as it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're talking about not only attempted assassination of

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<v Speaker 3>a former president the current Republican candidate, but two times,

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<v Speaker 3>two times in the course of what sixty days.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there's a little bit of news. There's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of news.

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<v Speaker 3>All the secret service failures are coming to light. The

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<v Speaker 3>guy who tried to allegedly shoot him in Florida has

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<v Speaker 3>now been charged with attempted assassination.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's been some news.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, you want to have a little fun

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<v Speaker 3>debate with me about something, go ahead. I had this

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth. This guy's charged with attempted assassination. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>the fact pattern here, he's waiting for Donald Trump to

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<v Speaker 3>come onto the next hole. He's set up with the

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<v Speaker 3>rifle he's looking through. He doesn't have Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>his crosshairs. What happens is a secret Service agent comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the next hole and starts scouting the area, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's when he sees the shooter. They engage in gunfire. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to a defense attorney. He says, I

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<v Speaker 3>can prove that that was an attempted assassination because Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump wasn't in his crosshairs, he wasn't about to shoot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's a stretch. He was set up, he

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's an attempt Now he's like, it has

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, that's a stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, when you said there were exchange gunfire, I

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, I am taken aback by what people

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<v Speaker 2>I am shocked at the spin and the nonsense and

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<v Speaker 2>everything going on. I don't want to talk about these things,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to. That's your job. But tonight's show

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<v Speaker 2>is really about words, shutting up, worst thing you could

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<v Speaker 2>say to a person. My gosh, if I ever said

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<v Speaker 2>shut up to someone, there's no coming back from that.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, You've never said shut up to somebody?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course I have, but I've regretted it. I've

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<v Speaker 2>could do. You're never forgiven. People might say you are,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's something that you really should avoid. So tonight

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<v Speaker 2>I took the collective and I said shut up. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's where we're going. Take a break, we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>We got some things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Always in fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach

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<v Speaker 2>to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes to

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<v Speaker 2>America through Carlagofeld Paris Women's collections, men's collections, ready to wear, accessory,

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<v Speaker 2>shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofil also offers a

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<v Speaker 2>range of watches I wear in premium fragrances. You can

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<v Speaker 2>explore the car Lagophil collection at carlagophilpowers dot com. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's more than that. I, for one, love to shop.

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<v Speaker 2>I love going around and seeing what's happening and what

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<v Speaker 2>catches my attention, what would make me feel good to

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<v Speaker 2>wear now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can appreciate it, and they look amazing. If you

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<v Speaker 2>fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing

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<v Speaker 2>something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find it at very affordable prices at Macy's

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<v Speaker 2>Orcarlagofel dot com Paris. The women's ready to wear fashion

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<v Speaker 2>is extraordinary, as well as the handbags and the shoes. I,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, wear men's clothes, unlike my appreciation of women's clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a modern guy. I want to look current. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to look the way I want to feel. I

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<v Speaker 2>go out at night, I'm in black and Carl Lagafel

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<v Speaker 2>is my buddy. Calls are great, they fit great, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe

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<v Speaker 2>on the sleeve or button at the neck or on

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulder. There's a lot of details that go into

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Lagafel because he's always been, he always had been

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<v Speaker 2>one of the world's great designers. And this legacy and

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<v Speaker 2>goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it

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<v Speaker 2>except to say to you, you want to feel good

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<v Speaker 2>about yourself. You want to know that you're dressing properly.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld,

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<v Speaker 2>Paris at Macy's Orcarl Lagafel dot com. A favorite brand

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<v Speaker 2>has always been ISOD. My company at one time bought

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<v Speaker 2>that brand. The CEO of the company handed it to

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<v Speaker 2>me and said, you better make it work. And I

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<v Speaker 2>put everything in my career to make Isaod work, and

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<v Speaker 2>I fell in love with that brand, and to this

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<v Speaker 2>day it is one of the most exciting endeavors I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever gotten involved with. Isod is an incredibly strong golf brand.

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<v Speaker 2>If you play golf, if you play tennis for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>They make a great polo shirts. I mean great. They're

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<v Speaker 2>fit perfect. The material is unique because it's a PK

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<v Speaker 2>fabric that waffle weave, you see, and it's made of

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<v Speaker 2>a blend of cotton and microfiber that allows you to stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>And very often they are treated with solar protection as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so they stretch, they're comfortable, and they breathe well. And

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<v Speaker 2>one thing about Isaac they always fit. They'll never tug

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<v Speaker 2>on you. You put it in your waist, they'll fit you great.

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<v Speaker 2>The colors, patterns are sensational. Now I will also tell

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<v Speaker 2>you Isaac makes great shorts and great golf pants. You're

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<v Speaker 2>a golfer and you want to look good. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to think about how do I look. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to think about how you play, not how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Isaad is the brand for you. I know I was

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<v Speaker 2>there when it was created. The strategy behind that brand

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<v Speaker 2>is brilliant. It's one of my favorite brands. While I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it, I should tell you about the men's sportswear.

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<v Speaker 2>ISOD wasn't enough being a golf brand. It wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 2>being just great polo shirts with logos, without logos, incredible

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<v Speaker 2>branded story and history. ISOD makes salt weather programs. They

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<v Speaker 2>have great printed woven shirts, short sleeves that look excellent

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<v Speaker 2>with colors, excellent with shorts, excellent with cotton pants, of

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<v Speaker 2>which they also make. This whole salt order relaxed line

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<v Speaker 2>from Iso, whether it be fleece, cotton sweaters, knit polos,

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<v Speaker 2>woven shirts and pants of a range of colors and

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<v Speaker 2>fabrics that are perfect for a guy wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>casually in the spring and summer of this year. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. Isod is affordable. Everyone listening to me

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this brand can afford to buy it and

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<v Speaker 2>know that there are a lot of other brands that

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<v Speaker 2>also have a look like ISOD. Although I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun as Eyesida is. The brand has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of energy in it, but at the price points no

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<v Speaker 2>one can compete. You can find eyes On at your

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<v Speaker 2>leading retails and online at isid dot com. Talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>lady guys. I wish you. I'm very happy spring in summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I help you by telling you if you were isaid,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to look great.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it, always in fashion. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about what's happening in our country, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>the world. The things that are being said today are

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<v Speaker 2>so dastardly, so disrespectful, so untrue that it's making me

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<v Speaker 2>collectively crazy for all of society. And if society is

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<v Speaker 2>listening to me tonight on the show, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>favorite ass. Shut up, you're not value added. Shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's too much spin, too much nonsense, too much everything

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<v Speaker 2>words matter, and how we use them matter and I

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<v Speaker 2>want her to talk about that tonight. I think Laura

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<v Speaker 2>Ingram had it right. You might not like it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you might not like what she said, and she took

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of heat for it when she was referring

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<v Speaker 2>to Lebron James after he made a political statement and

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<v Speaker 2>she said to him, shut up and dribble. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was great, It's true. Then we have Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say I'm a big fan of Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know very many of her songs. If I

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<v Speaker 2>know three of them, it's a lot. But I like

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<v Speaker 2>what she represents. She's as independent, single woman who's carved

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<v Speaker 2>out a career, became a billionaire. She has followers, she

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<v Speaker 2>has people admire she's an incredible songwriter. I really really

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<v Speaker 2>admire what she's done. And on top of it, she's beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>well dressed, put together and I like her. But Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift came out for Kamala Harris and she lost twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven million followers in one day. Shut up and sing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. They say a picture's worth of foul and words,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think some of the most iconic pictures that

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<v Speaker 2>are ever taken and seen by all of us, like

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<v Speaker 2>the raising of the American flag and ewon GiMA, Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>signifying the Americans took over the island. They one the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most hardfought battles in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>Muhammed Ali his hands up high in the air, taunting Sonny,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to get up from being knocked down in a

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<v Speaker 2>fight with him. Recently, Donald Trump's assassination photo, blood streaming

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<v Speaker 2>from his ear, his fist held high and he's yelling fight.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on a personal note, there was a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of a globe. Jesse works at news Nation. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an up and coming network news network that you would

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<v Speaker 2>know it from. Chris Como's one of the anchors, Dan Abrams,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the anchors, Elizabeth Vargas, and lastly bad for

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<v Speaker 2>Thank You Jesse and Jesse works then there. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>legal contributor to News Nation and he's also a host

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<v Speaker 2>that fills He does a great job. He's so good

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<v Speaker 2>at I'm so I don't know. I don't use the

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<v Speaker 2>word proud when I talk about you guys, my sons.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I am proud. I'm more relieved at how good

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<v Speaker 2>and how comfortable you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I would like proud, I'll take proud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd like Maybe that's how I feel. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>watching you guys talk and watching what you do on

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<v Speaker 2>there is amazing. And then one day I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm going to come up and watch you

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<v Speaker 2>record and do the show and host Dan Abrams. And

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<v Speaker 2>I walk in and I see this building and all

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<v Speaker 2>these photos in the building, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it brings back memories. When I was nine years old,

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<v Speaker 2>my father took me to the Daily News where he worked.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a print and he worked for the Daily News,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were the pictures of the Daily News, and

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<v Speaker 2>right in the center of the building this this tremendous globe.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I remembered I had been in that

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<v Speaker 2>building with my father taking me to work. And what

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<v Speaker 2>an indelible picture it left with me. It's my whole

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<v Speaker 2>childhood right there. And sure enough, Jesse's working in that building.

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<v Speaker 2>And what a turn of events. It was amazing and

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<v Speaker 2>brought up so many memories, and it got me thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm an industry where icons represent a huge portion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now icons can be people, but I'm talking about logos,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started to think about logos and how they

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<v Speaker 2>represent people and company ideas without saying a word. And

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<v Speaker 2>these logos, whether they're in business in life, speak louder

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<v Speaker 2>than words, and in this case, a picture, a logo

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<v Speaker 2>speaks a thousand words. All right, Jesse, here's what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do. I want to give you a logo,

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<v Speaker 2>just a logo without the name of the company. See

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<v Speaker 2>if you know what the logo is, and then tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what it means to you that brand. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a woman in a green circle. She looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a mermaid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, at Starbucks, right you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are now when you look at it, or when you

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<v Speaker 2>think of Starbucks without saying a word, because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, the lack of talk. Shut up. What

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<v Speaker 2>does Starbucks tell you by looking at that logo?

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<v Speaker 4>Coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it means like a very popular coffee lurering

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<v Speaker 2>That's my uh all right, why don't you ask me one?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? So I'm gonna put this one up. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's got an A with.

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<v Speaker 3>A orange arrow, this orange curved arrow at.

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<v Speaker 4>The bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 2>What is Amazon?

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<v Speaker 4>Amazon? There you go?

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<v Speaker 2>So you see that logo right away? Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>I know what that means? I don't know if everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knows this mean. I don't know if you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that that arrow represents that the company

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<v Speaker 2>carries every product from A to Z.

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<v Speaker 4>Really I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't either, but I found it out because I

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<v Speaker 2>bought this stock. But when I think of Amazon, I

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<v Speaker 2>think about any product you could possibly want delivered to

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<v Speaker 2>your house painlessly. That's what they're basically doing without saying

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<v Speaker 2>a word. And that's what I like about this exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's give you another one. Okay, three stripes.

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<v Speaker 3>Those three stripes, I know immediately it's Adidas. It's so

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<v Speaker 3>synonymous with the company, easily identifiable.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you think of Adidas, you think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think athletic shoes, athletes, athleticism.

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<v Speaker 2>Just shoes, not the rest of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I think of the rest of the stuff, but my

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<v Speaker 3>mind first goes to shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>What about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think of it as a lifestyle brand that

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<v Speaker 2>has everything that is in good taste.

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<v Speaker 3>So this next one's mind can't imagine you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>know what this is, but it looks like somebody took

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<v Speaker 3>a bite out of a cartoon apple.

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<v Speaker 4>What could this be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Apple's logo, one of the most recognizable logos in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. And here's the point I'm making with all

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<v Speaker 2>this talk and gobblygook that we have gone on in

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<v Speaker 2>this world, the point where I'm telling everybody to shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>There is ways to communicate without being jerks. Here is

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<v Speaker 2>a logo that speaks to a company that is the

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<v Speaker 2>most highly profitable company in the world, the most important

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<v Speaker 2>company in the world in many respects. It's changed our life.

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<v Speaker 2>It brought us to a new century. It put every

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<v Speaker 2>single thing in that in the palm of our hand

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<v Speaker 2>that we could possibly want to know. It's amazing, and

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<v Speaker 2>that logo does it without saying a word. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>having one for you now, this one has the company's

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<v Speaker 2>name in so I'm sure you're going to recognize it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want you to tell me after you say

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and you'll laugh at me, what that name

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<v Speaker 2>represents to you when you see it. The logo is

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<v Speaker 2>a script version of Disney.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh light Weight, Let me let me think.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, Sony is it Sony though?

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<v Speaker 4>Walt Disney Company? My gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So when I love that logo, one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite logos I love the script of the d reminds

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<v Speaker 3>me of my childhood, remind me of cartoons, imagination wonder.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's such a fantastic logo, one of the best.

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<v Speaker 3>And who doesn't know it? How many people across this

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<v Speaker 3>world know Disney. I always loved the one that had

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<v Speaker 3>the Disney with the.

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<v Speaker 4>Magic Kingdom in the background, the Magic Kingdom Castle.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does that company represent when you see you

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<v Speaker 2>hear Disney without saying a word to you, What does

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<v Speaker 2>it say to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Imagination?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I would have set a place to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're both great.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, all right, So I'm going to give you another

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<v Speaker 4>one right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you. I think the colors of this

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<v Speaker 3>logo are so unique.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh, just tell me the colors. Maybe I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>it from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Purple and orange FedEx. Really you got it that quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, purple and orange FedEx. I'm in the fashion.

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<v Speaker 4>Business, fed X. What do you think about FedEx?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 4>What does it mean to you when you see FedEx?

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<v Speaker 2>The greatest delivery company in the world. No matter what

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<v Speaker 2>you're waiting for, no matter what you want, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to send, FedEx is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>it there. It's going to get it there quick and reliably.

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<v Speaker 2>And just think about what I just said, no words

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<v Speaker 2>are spoken. Look how effective that is. It's amazing. If

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<v Speaker 2>I said to you now here, here's one for you

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<v Speaker 2>recent fame. If one with five circles, each in a

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<v Speaker 2>different color, interlocking.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, the Olympics, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, That to me symbolizes all different colors, all different countries,

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<v Speaker 3>all united together for this one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I look at when I see this. They're

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<v Speaker 4>linked together.

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<v Speaker 3>Now some would say like the Greek Games, right, certain

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the Greek Games.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's how I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting how you can say that. How and yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with you. It makes me happy. And I like what

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<v Speaker 2>you just said about the world being united. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you another one. It's yellow. It looks like an m.

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's, the Golden arches.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that say to you? Hamburgers, just hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 4>Mostly hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm not looking at it and thinking fish filet okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But now, hey, you know hamburgers, chicken nuggets, French fries, right,

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<v Speaker 3>French fries is a big one. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember the last time I had McDonald's. It might

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<v Speaker 3>have been ten fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had it on nights that I haven't had time

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<v Speaker 2>to go to eat where I want, or I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a hurry. I've had the spicy chicken sandwich, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good, very good. That's really good, very good.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So this next one is a circle with

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<v Speaker 3>three points three almost looks like a triangle inside, but

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<v Speaker 3>three points. It's a circle with three points inside of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's silver Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. Yes, yeah, this is this. Well again, I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>a point without speaking. People are making statements. When I

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<v Speaker 2>think of Mercedes, I think about German engineering, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think about great cars, and I think that's the point

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make. Tonight's show really is cold. Shut up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want everybody to shut up because we're ruining

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<v Speaker 2>the world collectively. But I'm thinking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you can be very powerful with using less words and

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, less logos. I have a great story

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<v Speaker 2>I read about. It had to do with Albert Einstein

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<v Speaker 2>and Charlie Chaplin, and they were together an event back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty or something. Einstein said to Charlie Chaplin,

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<v Speaker 2>you say nothing, because Charlie Chaplin was a silent film star.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, you say nothing and universality everyone understands what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. Amazing. And then Chaplin said, you say what's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone admires you, but no one understands what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>H clever. And the point is, everybody out there, we

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of problems. We talk too much, we

553
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<v Speaker 2>say the wrong things. We're in the wrong place. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to regroup and learn how to speak. And maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>just maybe you just should shut up if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you want to say and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say it right back in a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Always in fashion, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Spent a lifetime of my career building the van usen Brand,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am so pleased that they're back with us

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<v Speaker 2>now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be

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<v Speaker 2>won on multiple occasions in multiple ways. You could wear

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<v Speaker 2>a suit formally to go out at night or to

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<v Speaker 2>an event, wear a suit to the office with or

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<v Speaker 2>without a tie. If you look closely, now fashion trends,

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<v Speaker 2>suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mark next. The

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<v Speaker 2>choices are endless, and every one of them looks right.

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<v Speaker 2>You could really really look the part. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>packaging yourself is as important as products you package, and

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a suit is one of those things that make

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<v Speaker 2>men look their best. Venuesing invented a new idea. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called the cool Flex suit. It's been engineered with stretch technology,

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<v Speaker 2>giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle

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<v Speaker 2>resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wicki it makes it perfect

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<v Speaker 2>for all occasions. As we discussed just now, this new

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<v Speaker 2>style of looking sharp while feeling cool and comfortable is

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<v Speaker 2>amazing and I'm so excited that the ven Using company

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<v Speaker 2>is involved in this new technology and is embracing the

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<v Speaker 2>whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget Venues and

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<v Speaker 2>made it's name with dress shirts. It's only proper that

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<v Speaker 2>the suit business follows strongly in its way. You can

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<v Speaker 2>find van Ues in cool Flex Men's stretch suits at

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<v Speaker 2>jcpenny are online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great.

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<v Speaker 2>You should go look at them. Dkn Why Donna Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>New York. Donna Karen began a career as one of

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<v Speaker 2>the finest, most successful, powerful women in the fashion industry.

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<v Speaker 2>She developed a collection aimed at the luxury market for

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<v Speaker 2>women on the go, women who were powerful in their workplace,

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<v Speaker 2>women who had lives that extended beyond the workplace, and

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<v Speaker 2>her clothes went from day and to night. An extraordinary collection.

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<v Speaker 2>But the interesting thing Donna Karen had a young daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>and she had friends and they couldn't afford to buy

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<v Speaker 2>the Donna Karen collection. And Donna invented DK NY Donna Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>New York. It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen Collection.

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<v Speaker 2>The same concept a lifestyle brand. Now we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle brands, what does that really mean? Simply what they say,

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<v Speaker 2>there are brands that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You

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<v Speaker 2>get up in the morning, you start to get dressed

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<v Speaker 2>Donna Karen decaan why as intimate apparel, as hosiery, as

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<v Speaker 2>all those products. You're getting dressed for work. You get

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<v Speaker 2>accessorized shoes, handbags, and it takes you through the day.

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<v Speaker 2>The remarkable thing about DK and Y clothes for work.

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<v Speaker 2>They work into the eva, the dresses, the suits, the pants,

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<v Speaker 2>the sweaters, the blouses, extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that

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<v Speaker 2>go from day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active.

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<v Speaker 2>You have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Donna Karen's casual Clothes did that under the dk and

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<v Speaker 2>Y label. A vast array of casual sportswear that make

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<v Speaker 2>women look great as they navigate their busy lives. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>you going to soccer games for your children, or whether

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<v Speaker 2>you're going out to the movies, whatever you want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>dkn Y Jeans, dc HY Sportswear is there for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what a lifestyle brand is. And I need to

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<v Speaker 2>mention DKY active Wear, which is extraordinary, the leggings, the

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<v Speaker 2>sports bras, the sweats. You can wear DKY active Wear,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly in the gym, certainly when you're working out at home,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly if you want on the street, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>that well done. The quality of dk why is nothing

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<v Speaker 2>short of exceptional. And why shouldn't it be because it

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<v Speaker 2>was born from the idea of luxury made affordable for

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<v Speaker 2>women of America. DKAY and Why a true lifestyle brand

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<v Speaker 2>that takes you from day and tonight, from the week

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<v Speaker 2>into the weekend. DCN Why You can find DCN Why

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<v Speaker 2>and Macy's DKY dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm frustrated. For want of a better word, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a word I'm used to frustrated. I'm more angry. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>better being angry than frustrated people, all of us saying

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong things, being dishonest, not speaking about what's important,

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<v Speaker 2>putting a spin on everything we say, outright lying asking

632
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<v Speaker 2>can I be honest with you? I can go on

633
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<v Speaker 2>and on and on. The political situation in the world.

634
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<v Speaker 2>Two wars are raging, and nobody's even talking about letting go,

635
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<v Speaker 2>trying to stop it. Really angry, and I thought about

636
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<v Speaker 2>how could the world be a better place? And I

637
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<v Speaker 2>said to myself, everybody would just shut up and stop talking.

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<v Speaker 2>I started thinking about one of the most famous quotes

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<v Speaker 2>ever to be used. I'll make it simple and professional

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<v Speaker 2>life by a professional politician, the president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, I give up.

642
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 2>It was Theodore Roosevelt when he said he believes in

643
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<v Speaker 2>the West African philosophy of walk softly but carry a

644
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<v Speaker 2>big stick. Do you remember that, Oh, of course yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea behind his philosophy was negotiating peacefully, being sweet

646
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<v Speaker 2>and kind, but remembering that he had the strength to

647
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<v Speaker 2>do whatever he wanted to do. To make people listen,

648
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<v Speaker 2>so you can speak softly. But if you are powerful

649
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<v Speaker 2>and you know what you want, you can do it

650
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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want. That's the philosophy that he practiced, and

651
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<v Speaker 2>it got me thinking about negotiations. I know you're going

652
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<v Speaker 2>to know the answer to this one, Jesse. There's like

653
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>one big quiz show for you today. You're ready. Yeah?

654
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<v Speaker 2>Who wins in a negotiation?

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<v Speaker 4>The person who has the ability to walk away?

656
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jesse? Well trained? Who taught you that? Hmm?

657
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<v Speaker 4>I wonder, I wonder who?

658
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh for your movie? Right?

659
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

660
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Who wins a fight?

661
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 4>The person who doesn't throw a punch?

662
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>No?

663
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<v Speaker 4>Oh, this is from Roadhouse, isn't it?

664
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

665
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 4>No one, No one wins a fight?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jesse. Very good. Whoever can walk away from

667
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:46.599
<v Speaker 2>a negotiation wins? You're negotiating, it's two people. Two groups

668
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<v Speaker 2>of people could be boys, girls, men, women, could be

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<v Speaker 2>anybody negotiating for something, could be business in life. You

670
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<v Speaker 2>know when the first negotiation any human ever has.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, when you're a baby, what happens? You're crying to

672
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<v Speaker 3>get a bottle?

673
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? I want that bottle. You're not gonna stop crying

674
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 2>that mommy or that dad, is gonna find you a

675
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<v Speaker 2>bottle to shut you up talking about shut up. But

676
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<v Speaker 2>that's true. We're all negotiating from the day we're born.

677
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>You can negotiate many different ways. The baby cries, you

678
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<v Speaker 2>could smile, you can make your point, you could state

679
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 2>what you need. You can make it clear that you're

680
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<v Speaker 2>flexible in certain areas. You also have to make it

681
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<v Speaker 2>clear what are your deal breakers that you will not

682
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<v Speaker 2>negotiate on this matter. No matter what, it's all about

683
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<v Speaker 2>talking and knowing when to talk and when to shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an example. I thought about this back in

685
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<v Speaker 2>my day when we bought Calvin Klein. The company PVH

686
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>bought Calvin Klein. We owned the brand, we owned the

687
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>new businesses we were going to launch, We owned everything.

688
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<v Speaker 2>But a number of businesses at the time were licensed

689
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<v Speaker 2>to a company called Warnaco, which we eventually bought. Warnco

690
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<v Speaker 2>had the rights to manufacture genes, and it had the

691
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<v Speaker 2>rights to manufacture underwear Calvin Kleine underwick. Can you imagine

692
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<v Speaker 2>those two businesses. They were huge. So even though we

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<v Speaker 2>were Calvin Klein and they in many respects were Calvin

694
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<v Speaker 2>Klein too because they had the rights to those businesses.

695
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<v Speaker 2>But it was our business. We owned control. We had

696
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<v Speaker 2>the rights to approve everything they did, to say yes

697
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<v Speaker 2>and no on everything we did. It's our brand, our business,

698
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and we leased it to them. Now licensing, Just in

699
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<v Speaker 2>case you don't know, every pair of sunglasses you see

700
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<v Speaker 2>with a designer name is a license given to some

701
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<v Speaker 2>manufacturer who knows the eyewear business. In this case, back

702
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<v Speaker 2>in the day, Calvin Klein didn't know enough about jeans

703
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<v Speaker 2>to run the business themselves. They didn't know enough about

704
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 2>underwear to run it themselves, and they licensed it to

705
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<v Speaker 2>another company to do that, and the name of the

706
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>company was Warnicoe. Now, what I am an issue for

707
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<v Speaker 2>me was what's the best way forward? Shouldn't Calvin Klein

708
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<v Speaker 2>always look like one company? So if you were Macy's

709
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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna come to my showroom, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>represent to you what the Calvin Klein brand was in

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<v Speaker 2>its totality, even though I didn't make Calvin Klein watches,

712
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 2>even though I didn't make Calvin Klein eyewear, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I had a license making genes, even though I had

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00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>a license doing men's and women's underwear, I wanted to

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00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 2>house it under one roof. When I had Macy's come in,

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<v Speaker 2>or Target stores, whoever, big powerful retails. The Wall Street

717
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 2>analysts when they came in, I wanted to show them

718
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<v Speaker 2>the power of Calvin Klein, and it was the right

719
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<v Speaker 2>thing to do. There was a company when we bought

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<v Speaker 2>Calvin Klein, Unilever, the famous consumer goods company. They had

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<v Speaker 2>the rights to Calvin Klein Fragrance, the famous Calvin Klein fragrances.

722
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<v Speaker 2>So big business again six hundred million dollars. So whenever

723
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<v Speaker 2>I had a meeting in the office and I was

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<v Speaker 2>bringing in senior management of other companies to impress them

725
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 2>with the Calvin Klein brand, I would put it all together.

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00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So in the fashion business, there was something called the

727
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<v Speaker 2>Magic Show, which began as a trade show in California

728
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<v Speaker 2>and became a global show that took place in Las Vegas.

729
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<v Speaker 2>They kept the name Magic, which was the Men's Apparel

730
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<v Speaker 2>Guild in California. They didn't change it because they thought

731
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<v Speaker 2>the name was so valuable. Talk about logos and names.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty thousand people would come to Magic in Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>twice a year, once for spring, once for fall. Every

734
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<v Speaker 2>major retailer in the world would come in every Wall

735
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<v Speaker 2>Street analyst of consequence would come in who followed the

736
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<v Speaker 2>apparel or luxury sector to see what was going on,

737
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<v Speaker 2>so they would know whether or not the stocks of

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<v Speaker 2>the public companies representing these brands were healthy, were they

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward? Were they going to do the things they

740
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<v Speaker 2>said they would do? Fast forward back to the Calvin Klin.

741
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<v Speaker 2>I had a Calvin Klin booth. I had a Phillips

742
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Venues in corporate booth with a huge, huge Calvin Klein

743
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 2>facility there. And Warnaco's CEO did not want to exhibit

744
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>his Calvin Kline as part of our group. He wanted

745
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<v Speaker 2>it as part of the Warnaca group, and we had

746
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<v Speaker 2>a negotiation to take place. Yes or no. His ceo,

747
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>very powerful guy, very smart guy, refused to budge. His

748
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>position was, I have Calvin Kline jeans, I have Calvin

749
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Kline underwear. You must allow me to show it myself

750
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<v Speaker 2>and my own facility. Thank you. I appreciate your position.

751
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<v Speaker 2>But we own Calvin Klin, we own the brand. We

752
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<v Speaker 2>get to approve everything that there is to approve that

753
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 2>you do. You can't put a button on a pair

754
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 2>of jeans, you can't pick a color for a shirt

755
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 2>or a blouse. You can't use a fabric, you can't

756
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 2>do anything. You can't do any ad, you can't represent

757
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the brand in any way whatsoever that we don't approve.

758
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<v Speaker 2>So while I recognize that you want to show Calvin

759
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<v Speaker 2>Klein as part of your Wannaco group, I'm not going

760
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<v Speaker 2>to let you do it, and you're going to be

761
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 2>in our group or you're not going to be there

762
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<v Speaker 2>at all. Interesting negotiation, huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Jess, tough negotiation.

764
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you think happened?

765
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what happened.

766
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Could he walk away?

767
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 4>Yes? How I don't know?

768
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Well he said he can. How could he walk away

769
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<v Speaker 2>and not be it the most important trade show in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry where eighty thousand people are coming, every one

771
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 2>of his major customers, every one of consequence, he was

772
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 2>a public company called Warnaco, Calvin Kleine meant a huge

773
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 2>part of his shareholder's value. He had to be there.

774
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Could he walk away?

775
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Maybe not? Maybe I retract that.

776
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, could I walk away?

777
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I think you could walk away because you could stop

778
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 3>him from showing it in his booth, but you still

779
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<v Speaker 3>represent Calvin Klein, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what happened. I'd have walked away I could

781
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>have told him he has no choice. What I ended

782
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 2>up doing is negotiated to deal with him. That said,

783
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>the part of Calvin Klein where Warnico's involved, and where involved,

784
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>we'd allow him to use the Warnico name as on

785
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the footnote Calvin Kleine Jeans and Underwear at Warnico. They'd

786
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 2>be in our booth bigger than life. It all would

787
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:26.800
<v Speaker 2>be called Calvin Klein. He would not show his merchandise

788
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<v Speaker 2>and his own facility. Warnaco would represent their other brands.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did it together, and it worked brilliantly and

790
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.119
<v Speaker 2>it was great, and that's how negotiations work. I will

791
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<v Speaker 2>also tell you he never forgave me for the position

792
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I took, but it didn't make me any less. Right.

793
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<v Speaker 2>The point is, how do you use words? How do

794
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 2>you convince people? Knowing where you're strong, knowing where you're not,

795
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you need to know how to communicate. And if you

796
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<v Speaker 2>don't know any of those things, with all due respect,

797
00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 2>shut up back in a minute. Always Venues for over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty years now, has been a mainstay

799
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<v Speaker 2>in American fashion. This brand that was invented for dress shirts,

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<v Speaker 2>was given to cold miners when they exited the mills

801
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>dirty and dusty. The Phillips venues and company Phillips families

802
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>there to give them fresh new shirts that they could

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<v Speaker 2>wear at home and feel their best. Over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of time, venues and dress shirts grew and grew and

805
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<v Speaker 2>grew to suit shirts and ties for the dress up.

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<v Speaker 2>But now sportswear has become a dominant part of the

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<v Speaker 2>venues and collection. You can find these products including sweaters, polos,

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00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 2>quarter zips, trousers and even the best of fashion has

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<v Speaker 2>to be preserved. I don't know if I ever mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>to you the advent of the men's necktie. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>better in a men's necktie business than the business lunch

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<v Speaker 2>because guys we go out, they'd have their lunch that

813
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<v Speaker 2>have their salads or their beef and potatoes and snow

814
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<v Speaker 2>stout about it. They would always stain their tops. And

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<v Speaker 2>therefore the business grew and grew venues and today doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to make money on your hardships. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it and prevent you from having to go through that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they invented stainshield. It's a technology that was invented

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<v Speaker 2>to protect your favorite items. The Stainshield collection provides extreme

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<v Speaker 2>defense against water based stains by causing spills to beat

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<v Speaker 2>up before they can be absorbed into the fabric. This collection,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, in addition to regular fits, is also

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<v Speaker 2>often in all body sizes, including big and toll. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find vanues and Stainshield and the great venues in

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<v Speaker 2>styled sports were at vanues in dot com. That's Vanusen

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers,

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<v Speaker 2>car Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge

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<v Speaker 2>approach to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes

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<v Speaker 2>to America through car Lagofeld Paris. He has women's collections,

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<v Speaker 2>men's collections, ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The

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<v Speaker 2>fashion house Carlagofeld also offers a range of Watchers I

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<v Speaker 2>wear in premium fragrances. You can explore the Carlagovol collection

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<v Speaker 2>at carlagofelpowers dot com. But it's more than that. I,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, love to shop. I love going around and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would

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<v Speaker 2>make me feel good to wear now. I don't wear

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<v Speaker 2>the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it and

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<v Speaker 2>they look amazing. If you want to look right, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have clothes that fits you well. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive for you and yours. You can find it at

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<v Speaker 2>very affordable prices at Macy's, Orcarlagofel dot com Paris. The

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<v Speaker 2>women's ready to wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the handbigs and the shoes. I, for one, wear men's clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>unlike my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a modern guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to look current. I want to look the

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<v Speaker 2>way I want to feel. I go out at night,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in black and Carlagofel is my buddy. Calls are great.

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<v Speaker 2>They fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a stripe on the sleeve or button at

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<v Speaker 2>or on the shoulder. There's a lot of details that

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<v Speaker 2>go into Carl Lagafel because he's always been, he always

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<v Speaker 2>had been one of the world's great designers, and this

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<v Speaker 2>legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak enough

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<v Speaker 2>about it except to say to you, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>feel good about yourself. You want to know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>dressing properly. You want clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld,

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<v Speaker 2>Paris at Macy's Orcarlagafel dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it Always in Fashion. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>Today. I'm thinking about everything I hear, not necessarily see,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I hear is pissing me off. The way

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<v Speaker 2>the political candidates are talking, the way celebrities are getting

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<v Speaker 2>into trouble, the way the pundits are saying what they

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<v Speaker 2>say with no no consequence whatsoever if what they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong. Everyone has an opinion, doesn't make them right.

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<v Speaker 2>But everyone talks as if they know the world has

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<v Speaker 2>become versions of the truth, when we all know from

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Nicholson there are no versions of the truth. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really angry. I'm really upset at where we are, and

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<v Speaker 2>it got me to the point I'm thinking in this

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<v Speaker 2>week what to talk about for the show. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, this whole world ord to just shut

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<v Speaker 2>up here that pregnant paus was I was quiet for

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. I'll do it again. Think how powerful the

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<v Speaker 2>quiet is. I've talked about myself getting into trouble many

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<v Speaker 2>times in my career. Of all people, mister, I know

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<v Speaker 2>what's right. I'm Dudley do writer. I always do the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. I got angry at the present of my

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<v Speaker 2>company and I cursed him out. I told him to

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<v Speaker 2>go f himself in public form, screaming at him over

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<v Speaker 2>the phone, and he had his executive PE, his senior

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<v Speaker 2>VP in the room with him. I told him to

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<v Speaker 2>f himself. Somehow or another, I managed to survive. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I managed to survive, he gave me the cold

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<v Speaker 2>treatment for a year. I apologize then profusely. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>fire me. I apologized. I was on my best behavior

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<v Speaker 2>for a year, and for a year I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he ever looked directly at me and asked me a question.

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<v Speaker 2>When matters of importance came to meetings that I was

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<v Speaker 2>in with him, he asked me to recuse myself. That

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<v Speaker 2>quiet rejection was one of the most powerful things I

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<v Speaker 2>ever felt in my life. I've always been involved with quotes,

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<v Speaker 2>and there have been a number of them that hit

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<v Speaker 2>my attention preparing for the show, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>share him with you. One was Michael Kine. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of the greatest actors in the world. He's

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<v Speaker 2>in a movie and he said the hardest thing to

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<v Speaker 2>do is usually the right thing to do. Easy doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>enter into adult life. I thought that was brilliant. My

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<v Speaker 2>favorite quote I use more than any is well done

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<v Speaker 2>is better than well said Benjamin Franklin got to the

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<v Speaker 2>point that he was tired of hearing all these people

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<v Speaker 2>say what they'll do. I've adopted it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear what you say you're going to do. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear how smart you are. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to revolutionize the world? Are you gonna do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Show me? Great quote, Great quote. And then my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>The week someone was interviewing Steve Jobs and he asked

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<v Speaker 2>him what it was like to be rich. He thought

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<v Speaker 2>about it, he said, When I was twenty three years old,

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<v Speaker 2>I was worth a million dollars. When I was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four years old, I was worth ten million dollars. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was twenty five years old, I was worth one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars. But I never thought about being rich.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought that putting money aside, not have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about it allowed me to concentrate on making the

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<v Speaker 2>best products that I possibly could make. By changing the

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<v Speaker 2>world and making products that people didn't know they wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>until I showed it to them and gave them things

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<v Speaker 2>that they would need for the rest of the life.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't about money for me. It was about changing

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<v Speaker 2>the world. And all of those quiet statements were brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I am concerned, I said to you early.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't heard it, I'll say it to you again.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Chaplin met Albert Einstein a premiere for his movie

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<v Speaker 2>in I think it was nineteen thirty, and Einstein walked

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<v Speaker 2>up to him and said, you're a remarkable man. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Chaplin was a silent film star. He'd never spoke

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<v Speaker 2>in his movies, and he said, you say nothing, and universality,

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<v Speaker 2>every one of the stands what you're saying. And Charlie Chaplin,

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<v Speaker 2>to his credit, looked at him and say, you say

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<v Speaker 2>what's important. Everyone admires you, but no one understands what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. It shows how important words are, whether they're

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<v Speaker 2>spoken or unspoken, whether you're giving the silent treatment or

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<v Speaker 2>getting this silent treatment, whether you're being honest or dishonest,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you know what you're talking about or you're I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're talking, whether you're being fair or unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're being smart or stupid, whether you're being obnoxious

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<v Speaker 2>or pleasant, whether you're helping the world or ruining the world,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you are helping fellow man or hurting fellow man,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you understand that your words have implications. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>about all of this week, and in the end, I

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<v Speaker 2>figured out what we should all do. Shut up, good night,
