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Speaker 1: Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made business executive
Speaker 1: here to help you find your success from the New
Speaker 1: York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His
Speaker 1: global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.
Speaker 1: He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic
Speaker 1: proof that the American dream is alive. And well, here's
Speaker 1: your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.
Speaker 2: Mark Weber. I've been thinking maybe it's time we all
Speaker 2: just shut up now. I recognize that's one of the
Speaker 2: most insulting statements you can make to any individual, particularly
Speaker 2: without curse words. I'm not concerned, though, because I'm telling
Speaker 2: this collective body of all of us, just shut up.
Speaker 2: Do you hear yourselves? It's embarrassing, it's dangerous, it's stupidity
Speaker 2: beyond belief. What has happened to us? Our speech patterns
Speaker 2: are flawed by the you knows, you know, you know
Speaker 2: every sentence he comes out of your mouth. You know,
Speaker 2: you know, you know. Then if you're not doing that,
Speaker 2: it's so. And then of course it's penetrating our every conversation,
Speaker 2: every sentence. And on top of that, we're a divided nation.
Speaker 2: We're waiting for a travesty to unite us. A former
Speaker 2: president has escaped assassination twice in two months. Few, if any,
Speaker 2: are expressing outrage, let alone concern. If that's not enough,
Speaker 2: we have two presidential candidates. When they open their mouths,
Speaker 2: all you get is nonsense. We have two major wars.
Speaker 2: No one's talking to one another to bring them to
Speaker 2: an end. People are dying. Donald Trump said it. He
Speaker 2: wants to come into the first day in office wars.
Speaker 2: People are dying. You don't care what side. People are dying,
Speaker 2: young men, young women, They're dying. Free speech is under attack.
Speaker 2: If you don't agree with the loudest voice, you don't
Speaker 2: get to talk, and if you do, there are repercussions.
Speaker 2: Every narrative is spun. The impossible has happened. There are
Speaker 2: versions of the truth. There are no versions of the truth,
Speaker 2: but there are now Somehow the phrase can I be
Speaker 2: honest with you? Has penetrated our culture does that signify
Speaker 2: that everything else you say is a lie. You have
Speaker 2: to have the skills of a prosecuting attorney to get
Speaker 2: a straight answer. Now, enough, shut up. It's time for
Speaker 2: the silent treatment. It's time for the strong silent type.
Speaker 2: I'm concerned. As Jack Nicholson said, you can't handle the truth,
Speaker 2: and the truth is we're in a mouthstorm of incompetent communicators.
Speaker 2: It's time to rethink what we say. You need game,
Speaker 2: you need honesty, less is more, Know what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: think what you say, or make it simple. Just shut up.
Speaker 2: We don't need to hear from you now. In all
Speaker 2: of life, I try to avoid politics. I'm a recluse.
Speaker 2: I try to avoid celebrity downfalls. I'm a recluse. I
Speaker 2: tried to avoid the news. It's no longer news, it's commentary,
Speaker 2: it's opinions. I'm a recluse. I try to avoid fashion
Speaker 2: that tasteless have taken over. I don't want to look
Speaker 2: I'm a recluse. Having said that, the problem is, I
Speaker 2: don't even know if I'm saying the word right. Is
Speaker 2: it recluse or a recluse. I'm gonna say recluse. Now
Speaker 2: I'm part of society. You can't avoid the dumbing down
Speaker 2: of America. And I'm on the radio and podcast, I'm
Speaker 2: a host. How can I avoid it? My show business,
Speaker 2: cultural and lifestyle A statement I have to observe in
Speaker 2: life and report. Enough said. I would be the first
Speaker 2: to follow my own advice and shut up Mark, But
Speaker 2: I can't. Now Tonight, some straightforward talk on how to
Speaker 2: talk and joining me my lawyer, My calls my son
Speaker 2: Jesse Weber.
Speaker 3: Hello, La, Hello, Wow, you're on a especially big tear tonight.
Speaker 3: The truth is, you're right, You're right. I can't deny
Speaker 3: what you're saying. You know how many times people say
Speaker 3: you know so you know I'm guilty of it too.
Speaker 3: I'm guilty of it too.
Speaker 4: But I hear your frustration. I hear your frustration.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we can't even get straight answers out of our
Speaker 3: politicians more than others. I think everybody could make their
Speaker 3: own judgment about that. But I'll tell you what a
Speaker 3: what a week it's been. I've never been so busy.
Speaker 3: Who knew there'd be so much law to talk about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on in the world right now is crazy.
Speaker 2: I mentioned some of the things, but the mayor now
Speaker 2: of New York City has been in. Oh boy, we
Speaker 2: have Diddy, who's a public enemy number one. We have
Speaker 2: was ranging, we have assassination attempts going on. What's going on?
Speaker 3: I mean, where do you want to start? I gotta
Speaker 3: say Eric Adams. Now, when he came to office, I
Speaker 3: was skeptical, right, I was skeptical of a few things,
Speaker 3: but I I thought he had the intent to do
Speaker 3: the right thing, and especially coming after Deblasio, I was
Speaker 3: looking at I was looking forward to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything after Deblasio. Although I must say I was
Speaker 2: rooting for Curtis Sleewar, our friend from Wabcity.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: He was always been a straight shooter, has always helped
Speaker 2: the city, and I kind of wanted to see him
Speaker 2: get into office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Eric Adams, you know, former police. He's
Speaker 3: taken some positions that are great. He's taken some positions
Speaker 3: not so great. But I will tell you, I don't
Speaker 3: care who the mayor is. To wake up and find
Speaker 3: out that he has been criminally charged for corruption, for bribery,
Speaker 3: for accepting illegal campaign contributions, for taking gifts that he
Speaker 3: didn't disclose, for essentially being Oh my gosh, a puppet
Speaker 3: of the Turkish government or Turkish business officials is really
Speaker 3: really not only.
Speaker 4: Embarrassing, it's upsetting.
Speaker 3: It's upsetting as a New Yorker to see this.
Speaker 2: And if it's true, is there any explanation for it.
Speaker 3: It's tough because it's not one thing to say, hey,
Speaker 3: I receive these minor benefits.
Speaker 4: He didn't even disclose it.
Speaker 3: One of the things that was happening over the past
Speaker 3: ten months is they were collecting a lot of people's
Speaker 3: cell phones, and this indictment. You see conversations. The conversations
Speaker 3: are about hotel rooms and flights where he's not paying
Speaker 3: the full price of a flight or a hotel room.
Speaker 3: And the question is why if he could provide some
Speaker 3: sort of legitimate explanation, if he could say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, New York City to come to Turkey.
Speaker 3: Problem with that is he decided to streamline the building
Speaker 3: of a Turkish consulate that was against safety regulations. So
Speaker 3: this is as he's receiving benefits. I mean, the fact
Speaker 3: that he didn't disclose what he was receiving is problematic.
Speaker 3: The fact that he allegedly didn't put down on the
Speaker 3: campaign finance form what he was supposed to put down
Speaker 3: as a considered fraud. And when you talk about the
Speaker 3: charges that he's facing, one could be five years, one
Speaker 3: could be twenty years. So how much he wants to
Speaker 3: fight this versus take a deal and we'll see what
Speaker 3: the evidence is. But right now he has turned this
Speaker 3: into a political argument. He has said that they're coming
Speaker 3: after me, The federal government's coming after me.
Speaker 4: They have a target on my back.
Speaker 3: It sounds so much like Donald Trump, and yet he's
Speaker 3: a Democrat, and he was saying things that were arguably
Speaker 3: against the Biden administration, and we're arguably against the Democratic mission.
Speaker 3: He took a hardline stance on immigration, blaming the Biden administration.
Speaker 3: Some speculate that they're only coming after him because of that.
Speaker 3: I think that's a little hogwash. I think these are
Speaker 3: real charges. The Feds are not going to come after
Speaker 3: you unless they have something, and clearly they have built
Speaker 3: up quite the case against him.
Speaker 4: It's just disappointing to say so.
Speaker 2: He's in serious trouble.
Speaker 3: From your perspective, it's almost like a classic case of
Speaker 3: corruption that you see in the movies or comic books.
Speaker 3: It's like Gotham City, It's like the mayor who was
Speaker 3: on the take. That's what he's being accused of.
Speaker 4: Is the first.
Speaker 3: Mayor in New York City history to be criminally indicted
Speaker 3: while in office.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: What's the ten million dollars that they claim he benefited
Speaker 2: or it took.
Speaker 3: So the way that I understand it is that he
Speaker 3: used straw donations, secret donations, not what they were supposed
Speaker 3: to be, covering it up because what he would receive
Speaker 3: would apply for the city's matching funds programs. So it
Speaker 3: gives political candidates public funds to match small donations. Remember
Speaker 3: New York City residents, they might not be able to
Speaker 3: donate as much money as they can, so there's this
Speaker 3: program put in place that would match it. And because
Speaker 3: he allegedly was not being truthful about these donations and
Speaker 3: was engaging in fraud, he reaped over ten million dollars
Speaker 3: in matching funds based on these.
Speaker 2: False for his campaign, not for his pocket.
Speaker 4: Correct for the campaign.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: Really, that's bad. That's bad. That's bad.
Speaker 2: I liked him. I'm sorry to hear it. What else
Speaker 2: we got? What else are you on this week? Doing?
Speaker 3: All Shawn Combs, All Shawn Combs, everything of what's going
Speaker 3: on with him?
Speaker 2: Is he in trouble?
Speaker 4: He's in very serious trouble.
Speaker 3: I think with sex trafficking and racketeering charges where you're
Speaker 3: basically accused of operating a criminal organization, Yeah, I'd say
Speaker 3: he's in trouble. And I've spoken to a lot of
Speaker 3: analysts who believe that this is just the start that
Speaker 3: he's going to be hit with an amended indictment with
Speaker 3: more charges that might include miners.
Speaker 2: How come it comes out all of a sudden and
Speaker 2: it's a flood of information.
Speaker 3: It could be that everybody knew that it was an
Speaker 3: open secret, but nobody wanted to come forward. They were
Speaker 3: afraid they would be implicated. They were afraid of Shawn Combs.
Speaker 3: But remember what started this. What started this was all
Speaker 3: of those civil lawsuits that were filed against him starting
Speaker 3: last year. And if it wasn't for those lawsuits, this
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have had happened. And it's a remarkable thing
Speaker 3: to say, because if this was going on since they
Speaker 3: claim two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, why
Speaker 3: he's being charged with this in twenty twenty four is.
Speaker 4: A very fair question.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the United States Attorney who is
Speaker 3: prosecuting this case was asked that question and did not
Speaker 3: have a satisfactory answer.
Speaker 4: He couldn't explain why.
Speaker 2: Changing the subject one more time? Am I crazy? I
Speaker 2: said earlier that no one seems to care that former
Speaker 2: President Trump was almost assassinated twice? Am I being too strong?
Speaker 4: It's not in the news as much as it should be.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about not only attempted assassination of
Speaker 3: a former president the current Republican candidate, but two times,
Speaker 3: two times in the course of what sixty days.
Speaker 4: Now there's a little bit of news. There's a little
Speaker 4: bit of news.
Speaker 3: All the secret service failures are coming to light. The
Speaker 3: guy who tried to allegedly shoot him in Florida has
Speaker 3: now been charged with attempted assassination.
Speaker 4: So there's been some news.
Speaker 3: By the way, you want to have a little fun
Speaker 3: debate with me about something, go ahead. I had this
Speaker 3: back and forth. This guy's charged with attempted assassination. Remember
Speaker 3: the fact pattern here, he's waiting for Donald Trump to
Speaker 3: come onto the next hole. He's set up with the
Speaker 3: rifle he's looking through. He doesn't have Donald Trump and
Speaker 3: his crosshairs. What happens is a secret Service agent comes
Speaker 3: to the next hole and starts scouting the area, and
Speaker 3: that's when he sees the shooter. They engage in gunfire. Okay,
Speaker 3: I was talking to a defense attorney. He says, I
Speaker 3: can prove that that was an attempted assassination because Donald
Speaker 3: Trump wasn't in his crosshairs, he wasn't about to shoot.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a stretch. He was set up, he
Speaker 3: was ready to go. That's attempted assassinate, no question that right.
Speaker 3: I think it's an attempt Now he's like, it has
Speaker 3: to be has to be a little bit further that
Speaker 3: you would just attempted to try to kill the former president.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that's a stretch.
Speaker 2: But anyway, when you said there were exchange gunfire, I
Speaker 2: thought only the Secret Service shot it.
Speaker 3: That's correct, Yes, correct, the Secret Service only shot Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 2: As I said, I am taken aback by what people
Speaker 2: are saying. I'm taking aback by what they're not saying.
Speaker 2: I am shocked at the spin and the nonsense and
Speaker 2: everything going on. I don't want to talk about these things,
Speaker 2: but you have to. That's your job. But tonight's show
Speaker 2: is really about words, shutting up, worst thing you could
Speaker 2: say to a person. My gosh, if I ever said
Speaker 2: shut up to someone, there's no coming back from that.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, You've never said shut up to somebody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I have, but I've regretted it. I've
Speaker 2: learned that it's one of the most terrible things you
Speaker 2: could do. You're never forgiven. People might say you are,
Speaker 2: but it's something that you really should avoid. So tonight
Speaker 2: I took the collective and I said shut up. And
Speaker 2: that's where we're going. Take a break, we'll be back.
Speaker 2: We got some things to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it, always in fashion. Here's your host,
Speaker 1: Mark Webber.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about what's happening in our country, let alone
Speaker 2: the world. The things that are being said today are
Speaker 2: so dastardly, so disrespectful, so untrue that it's making me
Speaker 2: collectively crazy for all of society. And if society is
Speaker 2: listening to me tonight on the show, I have a
Speaker 2: favorite ass. Shut up, you're not value added. Shut up.
Speaker 2: There's too much spin, too much nonsense, too much everything
Speaker 2: words matter, and how we use them matter and I
Speaker 2: want her to talk about that tonight. I think Laura
Speaker 2: Ingram had it right. You might not like it, and
Speaker 2: you might not like what she said, and she took
Speaker 2: a lot of heat for it when she was referring
Speaker 2: to Lebron James after he made a political statement and
Speaker 2: she said to him, shut up and dribble. I thought
Speaker 2: that was great, It's true. Then we have Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: I have to say I'm a big fan of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: I don't know very many of her songs. If I
Speaker 2: know three of them, it's a lot. But I like
Speaker 2: what she represents. She's as independent, single woman who's carved
Speaker 2: out a career, became a billionaire. She has followers, she
Speaker 2: has people admire she's an incredible songwriter. I really really
Speaker 2: admire what she's done. And on top of it, she's beautiful,
Speaker 2: well dressed, put together and I like her. But Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift came out for Kamala Harris and she lost twenty
Speaker 2: seven million followers in one day. Shut up and sing that.
Speaker 2: You know. They say a picture's worth of foul and words,
Speaker 2: and I think some of the most iconic pictures that
Speaker 2: are ever taken and seen by all of us, like
Speaker 2: the raising of the American flag and ewon GiMA, Japan,
Speaker 2: signifying the Americans took over the island. They one the
Speaker 2: one of the most hardfought battles in World War Two.
Speaker 2: Muhammed Ali his hands up high in the air, taunting Sonny,
Speaker 2: listening to get up from being knocked down in a
Speaker 2: fight with him. Recently, Donald Trump's assassination photo, blood streaming
Speaker 2: from his ear, his fist held high and he's yelling fight.
Speaker 2: And then on a personal note, there was a picture
Speaker 2: of a globe. Jesse works at news Nation. This is
Speaker 2: an up and coming network news network that you would
Speaker 2: know it from. Chris Como's one of the anchors, Dan Abrams,
Speaker 2: one of the anchors, Elizabeth Vargas, and lastly bad for
Speaker 2: Thank You Jesse and Jesse works then there. He's the
Speaker 2: legal contributor to News Nation and he's also a host
Speaker 2: that fills He does a great job. He's so good
Speaker 2: at I'm so I don't know. I don't use the
Speaker 2: word proud when I talk about you guys, my sons.
Speaker 2: Maybe I am proud. I'm more relieved at how good
Speaker 2: you are, how confident you are, how great you look
Speaker 2: and how comfortable you are.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I would like proud, I'll take proud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like Maybe that's how I feel. But anyway,
Speaker 2: watching you guys talk and watching what you do on
Speaker 2: there is amazing. And then one day I said, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to come up and watch you
Speaker 2: record and do the show and host Dan Abrams. And
Speaker 2: I walk in and I see this building and all
Speaker 2: these photos in the building, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it brings back memories. When I was nine years old,
Speaker 2: my father took me to the Daily News where he worked.
Speaker 2: He was a print and he worked for the Daily News,
Speaker 2: and there were the pictures of the Daily News, and
Speaker 2: right in the center of the building this this tremendous globe.
Speaker 2: And that's when I remembered I had been in that
Speaker 2: building with my father taking me to work. And what
Speaker 2: an indelible picture it left with me. It's my whole
Speaker 2: childhood right there. And sure enough, Jesse's working in that building.
Speaker 2: And what a turn of events. It was amazing and
Speaker 2: brought up so many memories, and it got me thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm an industry where icons represent a huge portion.
Speaker 2: Now icons can be people, but I'm talking about logos,
Speaker 2: and I started to think about logos and how they
Speaker 2: represent people and company ideas without saying a word. And
Speaker 2: these logos, whether they're in business in life, speak louder
Speaker 2: than words, and in this case, a picture, a logo
Speaker 2: speaks a thousand words. All right, Jesse, here's what I
Speaker 2: want to do. I want to give you a logo,
Speaker 2: just a logo without the name of the company. See
Speaker 2: if you know what the logo is, and then tell
Speaker 2: me what it means to you that brand. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is a woman in a green circle. She looks like
Speaker 2: a mermaid.
Speaker 4: Yep, at Starbucks, right you.
Speaker 2: Are now when you look at it, or when you
Speaker 2: think of Starbucks without saying a word, because that's what
Speaker 2: we're talking about, the lack of talk. Shut up. What
Speaker 2: does Starbucks tell you by looking at that logo?
Speaker 4: Coffee?
Speaker 3: I mean it means like a very popular coffee lurering
Speaker 3: people in.
Speaker 2: That's my uh all right, why don't you ask me one?
Speaker 4: All right? So I'm gonna put this one up. So
Speaker 4: it's got an A with.
Speaker 3: A orange arrow, this orange curved arrow at.
Speaker 4: The bottom of it.
Speaker 2: What is Amazon?
Speaker 4: Amazon? There you go?
Speaker 2: So you see that logo right away? Do you know
Speaker 2: I know what that means? I don't know if everybody
Speaker 2: knows this mean. I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 2: Do you know that that arrow represents that the company
Speaker 2: carries every product from A to Z.
Speaker 4: Really I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I didn't either, but I found it out because I
Speaker 2: bought this stock. But when I think of Amazon, I
Speaker 2: think about any product you could possibly want delivered to
Speaker 2: your house painlessly. That's what they're basically doing without saying
Speaker 2: a word. And that's what I like about this exercise.
Speaker 2: Let's give you another one. Okay, three stripes.
Speaker 3: Those three stripes, I know immediately it's Adidas. It's so
Speaker 3: synonymous with the company, easily identifiable.
Speaker 2: And when you think of Adidas, you think.
Speaker 3: I think athletic shoes, athletes, athleticism.
Speaker 2: Just shoes, not the rest of this stuff.
Speaker 3: I think of the rest of the stuff, but my
Speaker 3: mind first goes to shoes.
Speaker 4: What about you?
Speaker 2: Well, I think of it as a lifestyle brand that
Speaker 2: has everything that is in good taste.
Speaker 3: So this next one's mind can't imagine you're going to
Speaker 3: know what this is, but it looks like somebody took
Speaker 3: a bite out of a cartoon apple.
Speaker 4: What could this be.
Speaker 2: It's Apple's logo, one of the most recognizable logos in
Speaker 2: the world. And here's the point I'm making with all
Speaker 2: this talk and gobblygook that we have gone on in
Speaker 2: this world, the point where I'm telling everybody to shut up.
Speaker 2: There is ways to communicate without being jerks. Here is
Speaker 2: a logo that speaks to a company that is the
Speaker 2: most highly profitable company in the world, the most important
Speaker 2: company in the world in many respects. It's changed our life.
Speaker 2: It brought us to a new century. It put every
Speaker 2: single thing in that in the palm of our hand
Speaker 2: that we could possibly want to know. It's amazing, and
Speaker 2: that logo does it without saying a word. All right,
Speaker 2: having one for you now, this one has the company's
Speaker 2: name in so I'm sure you're going to recognize it,
Speaker 2: but I want you to tell me after you say
Speaker 2: of course, and you'll laugh at me, what that name
Speaker 2: represents to you when you see it. The logo is
Speaker 2: a script version of Disney.
Speaker 4: Oh light Weight, Let me let me think.
Speaker 3: Ah, Sony is it Sony though?
Speaker 4: Walt Disney Company? My gosh.
Speaker 3: Okay, So when I love that logo, one of my
Speaker 3: favorite logos I love the script of the d reminds
Speaker 3: me of my childhood, remind me of cartoons, imagination wonder.
Speaker 3: I think it's such a fantastic logo, one of the best.
Speaker 3: And who doesn't know it? How many people across this
Speaker 3: world know Disney. I always loved the one that had
Speaker 3: the Disney with the.
Speaker 4: Magic Kingdom in the background, the Magic Kingdom Castle.
Speaker 2: But what does that company represent when you see you
Speaker 2: hear Disney without saying a word to you, What does
Speaker 2: it say to you?
Speaker 4: Imagination?
Speaker 2: Okay, I would have set a place to be happy.
Speaker 2: But they're both great.
Speaker 4: Too, all right, So I'm going to give you another
Speaker 4: one right now.
Speaker 3: I will tell you. I think the colors of this
Speaker 3: logo are so unique.
Speaker 2: But oh, just tell me the colors. Maybe I'll get
Speaker 2: it from that.
Speaker 3: Purple and orange FedEx. Really you got it that quickly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, purple and orange FedEx. I'm in the fashion.
Speaker 4: Business, fed X. What do you think about FedEx?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 4: What does it mean to you when you see FedEx?
Speaker 2: The greatest delivery company in the world. No matter what
Speaker 2: you're waiting for, no matter what you want, no matter
Speaker 2: what you want to send, FedEx is going to get
Speaker 2: it there. It's going to get it there quick and reliably.
Speaker 2: And just think about what I just said, no words
Speaker 2: are spoken. Look how effective that is. It's amazing. If
Speaker 2: I said to you now here, here's one for you
Speaker 2: recent fame. If one with five circles, each in a
Speaker 2: different color, interlocking.
Speaker 4: Oh, the Olympics, of course.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, That to me symbolizes all different colors, all different countries,
Speaker 3: all united together for this one thing.
Speaker 4: That's what I look at when I see this. They're
Speaker 4: linked together.
Speaker 3: Now some would say like the Greek Games, right, certain
Speaker 3: parts of the Greek Games.
Speaker 4: But that's how I see it.
Speaker 2: Interesting how you can say that. How and yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: with you. It makes me happy. And I like what
Speaker 2: you just said about the world being united. I'll give
Speaker 2: you another one. It's yellow. It looks like an m.
Speaker 4: McDonald's, the Golden arches.
Speaker 2: What does that say to you? Hamburgers, just hamburgers.
Speaker 4: Mostly hamburgers.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not looking at it and thinking fish filet okay,
Speaker 3: But now, hey, you know hamburgers, chicken nuggets, French fries, right,
Speaker 3: French fries is a big one. By the way, I
Speaker 3: don't remember the last time I had McDonald's. It might
Speaker 3: have been ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: I've had it on nights that I haven't had time
Speaker 2: to go to eat where I want, or I'm in
Speaker 2: a hurry. I've had the spicy chicken sandwich, and.
Speaker 4: That's good, very good. That's really good, very good.
Speaker 3: All right, So this next one is a circle with
Speaker 3: three points three almost looks like a triangle inside, but
Speaker 3: three points. It's a circle with three points inside of it.
Speaker 2: It's silver Mercedes.
Speaker 4: That's right, Mercedes.
Speaker 2: Good. Yes, yeah, this is this. Well again, I'm making
Speaker 2: a point without speaking. People are making statements. When I
Speaker 2: think of Mercedes, I think about German engineering, and I
Speaker 2: think about great cars, and I think that's the point
Speaker 2: I want to make. Tonight's show really is cold. Shut up,
Speaker 2: and I want everybody to shut up because we're ruining
Speaker 2: the world collectively. But I'm thinking about the fact that
Speaker 2: you can be very powerful with using less words and
Speaker 2: in this case, less logos. I have a great story
Speaker 2: I read about. It had to do with Albert Einstein
Speaker 2: and Charlie Chaplin, and they were together an event back
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty or something. Einstein said to Charlie Chaplin,
Speaker 2: you say nothing, because Charlie Chaplin was a silent film star.
Speaker 2: He said, you say nothing and universality everyone understands what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Amazing. And then Chaplin said, you say what's important.
Speaker 2: Everyone admires you, but no one understands what you're saying.
Speaker 2: H clever. And the point is, everybody out there, we
Speaker 2: got a lot of problems. We talk too much, we
Speaker 2: say the wrong things. We're in the wrong place. It's
Speaker 2: time to regroup and learn how to speak. And maybe,
Speaker 2: just maybe you just should shut up if you don't
Speaker 2: know what you want to say and you don't want
Speaker 2: to say it right back in a minute.
Speaker 3: Always in fashion, I.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber.
Speaker 2: I'm frustrated. For want of a better word, it's not
Speaker 2: a word I'm used to frustrated. I'm more angry. I'm
Speaker 2: better being angry than frustrated people, all of us saying
Speaker 2: the wrong things, being dishonest, not speaking about what's important,
Speaker 2: putting a spin on everything we say, outright lying asking
Speaker 2: can I be honest with you? I can go on
Speaker 2: and on and on. The political situation in the world.
Speaker 2: Two wars are raging, and nobody's even talking about letting go,
Speaker 2: trying to stop it. Really angry, and I thought about
Speaker 2: how could the world be a better place? And I
Speaker 2: said to myself, everybody would just shut up and stop talking.
Speaker 2: I started thinking about one of the most famous quotes
Speaker 2: ever to be used. I'll make it simple and professional
Speaker 2: life by a professional politician, the president of the United States.
Speaker 4: Ah, I give up.
Speaker 2: It was Theodore Roosevelt when he said he believes in
Speaker 2: the West African philosophy of walk softly but carry a
Speaker 2: big stick. Do you remember that, Oh, of course yeah.
Speaker 2: The idea behind his philosophy was negotiating peacefully, being sweet
Speaker 2: and kind, but remembering that he had the strength to
Speaker 2: do whatever he wanted to do. To make people listen,
Speaker 2: so you can speak softly. But if you are powerful
Speaker 2: and you know what you want, you can do it
Speaker 2: whatever you want. That's the philosophy that he practiced, and
Speaker 2: it got me thinking about negotiations. I know you're going
Speaker 2: to know the answer to this one, Jesse. There's like
Speaker 2: one big quiz show for you today. You're ready. Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who wins in a negotiation?
Speaker 4: The person who has the ability to walk away?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jesse? Well trained? Who taught you that? Hmm?
Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder who?
Speaker 2: Oh for your movie? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who wins a fight?
Speaker 4: The person who doesn't throw a punch?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Oh, this is from Roadhouse, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No one, No one wins a fight?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jesse. Very good. Whoever can walk away from
Speaker 2: a negotiation wins? You're negotiating, it's two people. Two groups
Speaker 2: of people could be boys, girls, men, women, could be
Speaker 2: anybody negotiating for something, could be business in life. You
Speaker 2: know when the first negotiation any human ever has.
Speaker 3: Oh, when you're a baby, what happens? You're crying to
Speaker 3: get a bottle?
Speaker 2: Exactly? I want that bottle. You're not gonna stop crying
Speaker 2: that mommy or that dad, is gonna find you a
Speaker 2: bottle to shut you up talking about shut up. But
Speaker 2: that's true. We're all negotiating from the day we're born.
Speaker 2: You can negotiate many different ways. The baby cries, you
Speaker 2: could smile, you can make your point, you could state
Speaker 2: what you need. You can make it clear that you're
Speaker 2: flexible in certain areas. You also have to make it
Speaker 2: clear what are your deal breakers that you will not
Speaker 2: negotiate on this matter. No matter what, it's all about
Speaker 2: talking and knowing when to talk and when to shut up.
Speaker 2: I have an example. I thought about this back in
Speaker 2: my day when we bought Calvin Klein. The company PVH
Speaker 2: bought Calvin Klein. We owned the brand, we owned the
Speaker 2: new businesses we were going to launch, We owned everything.
Speaker 2: But a number of businesses at the time were licensed
Speaker 2: to a company called Warnaco, which we eventually bought. Warnco
Speaker 2: had the rights to manufacture genes, and it had the
Speaker 2: rights to manufacture underwear Calvin Kleine underwick. Can you imagine
Speaker 2: those two businesses. They were huge. So even though we
Speaker 2: were Calvin Klein and they in many respects were Calvin
Speaker 2: Klein too because they had the rights to those businesses.
Speaker 2: But it was our business. We owned control. We had
Speaker 2: the rights to approve everything they did, to say yes
Speaker 2: and no on everything we did. It's our brand, our business,
Speaker 2: and we leased it to them. Now licensing, Just in
Speaker 2: case you don't know, every pair of sunglasses you see
Speaker 2: with a designer name is a license given to some
Speaker 2: manufacturer who knows the eyewear business. In this case, back
Speaker 2: in the day, Calvin Klein didn't know enough about jeans
Speaker 2: to run the business themselves. They didn't know enough about
Speaker 2: underwear to run it themselves, and they licensed it to
Speaker 2: another company to do that, and the name of the
Speaker 2: company was Warnicoe. Now, what I am an issue for
Speaker 2: me was what's the best way forward? Shouldn't Calvin Klein
Speaker 2: always look like one company? So if you were Macy's
Speaker 2: and you're gonna come to my showroom, I wanted to
Speaker 2: represent to you what the Calvin Klein brand was in
Speaker 2: its totality, even though I didn't make Calvin Klein watches,
Speaker 2: even though I didn't make Calvin Klein eyewear, even though
Speaker 2: I had a license making genes, even though I had
Speaker 2: a license doing men's and women's underwear, I wanted to
Speaker 2: house it under one roof. When I had Macy's come in,
Speaker 2: or Target stores, whoever, big powerful retails. The Wall Street
Speaker 2: analysts when they came in, I wanted to show them
Speaker 2: the power of Calvin Klein, and it was the right
Speaker 2: thing to do. There was a company when we bought
Speaker 2: Calvin Klein, Unilever, the famous consumer goods company. They had
Speaker 2: the rights to Calvin Klein Fragrance, the famous Calvin Klein fragrances.
Speaker 2: So big business again six hundred million dollars. So whenever
Speaker 2: I had a meeting in the office and I was
Speaker 2: bringing in senior management of other companies to impress them
Speaker 2: with the Calvin Klein brand, I would put it all together.
Speaker 2: So in the fashion business, there was something called the
Speaker 2: Magic Show, which began as a trade show in California
Speaker 2: and became a global show that took place in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: They kept the name Magic, which was the Men's Apparel
Speaker 2: Guild in California. They didn't change it because they thought
Speaker 2: the name was so valuable. Talk about logos and names.
Speaker 2: Eighty thousand people would come to Magic in Las Vegas
Speaker 2: twice a year, once for spring, once for fall. Every
Speaker 2: major retailer in the world would come in every Wall
Speaker 2: Street analyst of consequence would come in who followed the
Speaker 2: apparel or luxury sector to see what was going on,
Speaker 2: so they would know whether or not the stocks of
Speaker 2: the public companies representing these brands were healthy, were they
Speaker 2: moving forward? Were they going to do the things they
Speaker 2: said they would do? Fast forward back to the Calvin Klin.
Speaker 2: I had a Calvin Klin booth. I had a Phillips
Speaker 2: Venues in corporate booth with a huge, huge Calvin Klein
Speaker 2: facility there. And Warnaco's CEO did not want to exhibit
Speaker 2: his Calvin Kline as part of our group. He wanted
Speaker 2: it as part of the Warnaca group, and we had
Speaker 2: a negotiation to take place. Yes or no. His ceo,
Speaker 2: very powerful guy, very smart guy, refused to budge. His
Speaker 2: position was, I have Calvin Kline jeans, I have Calvin
Speaker 2: Kline underwear. You must allow me to show it myself
Speaker 2: and my own facility. Thank you. I appreciate your position.
Speaker 2: But we own Calvin Klin, we own the brand. We
Speaker 2: get to approve everything that there is to approve that
Speaker 2: you do. You can't put a button on a pair
Speaker 2: of jeans, you can't pick a color for a shirt
Speaker 2: or a blouse. You can't use a fabric, you can't
Speaker 2: do anything. You can't do any ad, you can't represent
Speaker 2: the brand in any way whatsoever that we don't approve.
Speaker 2: So while I recognize that you want to show Calvin
Speaker 2: Klein as part of your Wannaco group, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to let you do it, and you're going to be
Speaker 2: in our group or you're not going to be there
Speaker 2: at all. Interesting negotiation, huh.
Speaker 4: Jess, tough negotiation.
Speaker 2: What do you think happened?
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: Could he walk away?
Speaker 4: Yes? How I don't know?
Speaker 2: Well he said he can. How could he walk away
Speaker 2: and not be it the most important trade show in
Speaker 2: the industry where eighty thousand people are coming, every one
Speaker 2: of his major customers, every one of consequence, he was
Speaker 2: a public company called Warnaco, Calvin Kleine meant a huge
Speaker 2: part of his shareholder's value. He had to be there.
Speaker 2: Could he walk away?
Speaker 4: Maybe not? Maybe I retract that.
Speaker 2: Okay, could I walk away?
Speaker 3: I think you could walk away because you could stop
Speaker 3: him from showing it in his booth, but you still
Speaker 3: represent Calvin Klein, And.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened. I'd have walked away I could
Speaker 2: have told him he has no choice. What I ended
Speaker 2: up doing is negotiated to deal with him. That said,
Speaker 2: the part of Calvin Klein where Warnico's involved, and where involved,
Speaker 2: we'd allow him to use the Warnico name as on
Speaker 2: the footnote Calvin Kleine Jeans and Underwear at Warnico. They'd
Speaker 2: be in our booth bigger than life. It all would
Speaker 2: be called Calvin Klein. He would not show his merchandise
Speaker 2: and his own facility. Warnaco would represent their other brands.
Speaker 2: And we did it together, and it worked brilliantly and
Speaker 2: it was great, and that's how negotiations work. I will
Speaker 2: also tell you he never forgave me for the position
Speaker 2: I took, but it didn't make me any less. Right.
Speaker 2: The point is, how do you use words? How do
Speaker 2: you convince people? Knowing where you're strong, knowing where you're not,
Speaker 2: you need to know how to communicate. And if you
Speaker 2: don't know any of those things, with all due respect,
Speaker 2: shut up back in a minute. Always Venues for over
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it Always in Fashion. Here's your host,
Speaker 1: Mark Webber.
Speaker 2: Today. I'm thinking about everything I hear, not necessarily see,
Speaker 2: and what I hear is pissing me off. The way
Speaker 2: the political candidates are talking, the way celebrities are getting
Speaker 2: into trouble, the way the pundits are saying what they
Speaker 2: say with no no consequence whatsoever if what they're saying
Speaker 2: is wrong. Everyone has an opinion, doesn't make them right.
Speaker 2: But everyone talks as if they know the world has
Speaker 2: become versions of the truth, when we all know from
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson there are no versions of the truth. I'm
Speaker 2: really angry. I'm really upset at where we are, and
Speaker 2: it got me to the point I'm thinking in this
Speaker 2: week what to talk about for the show. I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, this whole world ord to just shut
Speaker 2: up here that pregnant paus was I was quiet for
Speaker 2: a moment. I'll do it again. Think how powerful the
Speaker 2: quiet is. I've talked about myself getting into trouble many
Speaker 2: times in my career. Of all people, mister, I know
Speaker 2: what's right. I'm Dudley do writer. I always do the
Speaker 2: right thing. I got angry at the present of my
Speaker 2: company and I cursed him out. I told him to
Speaker 2: go f himself in public form, screaming at him over
Speaker 2: the phone, and he had his executive PE, his senior
Speaker 2: VP in the room with him. I told him to
Speaker 2: f himself. Somehow or another, I managed to survive. But
Speaker 2: when I managed to survive, he gave me the cold
Speaker 2: treatment for a year. I apologize then profusely. They didn't
Speaker 2: fire me. I apologized. I was on my best behavior
Speaker 2: for a year, and for a year I don't think
Speaker 2: he ever looked directly at me and asked me a question.
Speaker 2: When matters of importance came to meetings that I was
Speaker 2: in with him, he asked me to recuse myself. That
Speaker 2: quiet rejection was one of the most powerful things I
Speaker 2: ever felt in my life. I've always been involved with quotes,
Speaker 2: and there have been a number of them that hit
Speaker 2: my attention preparing for the show, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: share him with you. One was Michael Kine. I think
Speaker 2: he's one of the greatest actors in the world. He's
Speaker 2: in a movie and he said the hardest thing to
Speaker 2: do is usually the right thing to do. Easy doesn't
Speaker 2: enter into adult life. I thought that was brilliant. My
Speaker 2: favorite quote I use more than any is well done
Speaker 2: is better than well said Benjamin Franklin got to the
Speaker 2: point that he was tired of hearing all these people
Speaker 2: say what they'll do. I've adopted it. I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear what you say you're going to do. I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear how smart you are. Are you
Speaker 2: going to revolutionize the world? Are you gonna do it?
Speaker 2: Show me? Great quote, Great quote. And then my favorite.
Speaker 2: The week someone was interviewing Steve Jobs and he asked
Speaker 2: him what it was like to be rich. He thought
Speaker 2: about it, he said, When I was twenty three years old,
Speaker 2: I was worth a million dollars. When I was twenty
Speaker 2: four years old, I was worth ten million dollars. When
Speaker 2: I was twenty five years old, I was worth one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. But I never thought about being rich.
Speaker 2: I always thought that putting money aside, not have to
Speaker 2: worry about it allowed me to concentrate on making the
Speaker 2: best products that I possibly could make. By changing the
Speaker 2: world and making products that people didn't know they wanted,
Speaker 2: until I showed it to them and gave them things
Speaker 2: that they would need for the rest of the life.
Speaker 2: It wasn't about money for me. It was about changing
Speaker 2: the world. And all of those quiet statements were brilliant
Speaker 2: as far as I am concerned, I said to you early.
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard it, I'll say it to you again.
Speaker 2: Charlie Chaplin met Albert Einstein a premiere for his movie
Speaker 2: in I think it was nineteen thirty, and Einstein walked
Speaker 2: up to him and said, you're a remarkable man. Remember
Speaker 2: Charlie Chaplin was a silent film star. He'd never spoke
Speaker 2: in his movies, and he said, you say nothing, and universality,
Speaker 2: every one of the stands what you're saying. And Charlie Chaplin,
Speaker 2: to his credit, looked at him and say, you say
Speaker 2: what's important. Everyone admires you, but no one understands what
Speaker 2: you're saying. It shows how important words are, whether they're
Speaker 2: spoken or unspoken, whether you're giving the silent treatment or
Speaker 2: getting this silent treatment, whether you're being honest or dishonest,
Speaker 2: whether you know what you're talking about or you're I
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking, whether you're being fair or unfair.
Speaker 2: Whether you're being smart or stupid, whether you're being obnoxious
Speaker 2: or pleasant, whether you're helping the world or ruining the world,
Speaker 2: whether you are helping fellow man or hurting fellow man,
Speaker 2: whether you understand that your words have implications. I thought
Speaker 2: about all of this week, and in the end, I
Speaker 2: figured out what we should all do. Shut up, good night,