1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep 2 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:07,599 dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, 3 00:00:07,639 --> 00:00:10,800 and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,919 Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,839 world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists, and truth seekers to 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,480 illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that 7 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,760 truly matter. Why are we here, where are we going? 8 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:30,160 And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and 9 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:33,840 our consciousness to the next level. This is a space 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,119 for transformation, a space for expansion, a space to remember 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,000 who you really are. 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The views opinions 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,959 and statements expressed by our guests are their own and 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,519 do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next 22 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:27,000 Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,879 Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,640 welcome back to the show Darryl Ann. 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,159 Speaker 2: Darryl doing great. How are you, Alex? 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,159 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, my friend. Thank you so much for 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,319 coming back. Our last conversation did Gangbusters. People loved our 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,480 conversation and still people are watching and listening to it 29 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:51,280 around the world. And it's been a it's been at 30 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:53,799 least six months, I think at least. 31 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:57,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's time for me right now. Is just I 32 00:01:57,959 --> 00:01:59,400 don't even remember what Dave. 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Is, but it was, but it's it did very, very well. 34 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:05,519 And I called you up and say, hey, you want 35 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:07,519 to come back on. I'm sure we can find other 36 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:09,759 things to talk about, and uh. 37 00:02:11,159 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: So me again, I really appreciate it. 38 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you, my friend. What you what you 39 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:18,400 and and the work you're doing with Bishar is pretty 40 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:24,800 remarkable and funny enough, many of my other guests always 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,159 come back like, oh, I saw your interview with Darryl. 42 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:31,680 I love Bashar and I'm like, I'm good friends with Daryl, 43 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:38,360 and they're like really, I'm like, yes, it's so fun. 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,759 It's just fun again. And for people listening, listen to 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,319 the first episode. You know, Darryl and I go back 46 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:47,159 for thirteen years, I think. 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: At this point, yes, probably at least. 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,199 Speaker 1: And I had no idea there bar the whole Bashar 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,719 side of his world. For six years of our relationships 50 00:02:59,719 --> 00:03:02,479 just doing movies. We were just doing movies together. And 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,639 it's not something that you advertise, you know, wear a 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,319 T shirt that goes I Channel Bashar. Though, I'm just 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,000 throwing that out. There might be some merch for you. 54 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:16,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a telephone for an alien exactly. 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: But but yeah, so I wanted to bring you back, 56 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:24,039 and I had a couple of questions that hopefully will 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,039 help people listening. My first question is, you know you've 58 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:33,039 been channel Bashar now for almost forty years at this point, 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,080 can you tell me why he chose now to send 60 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:41,840 his message in the in the escape of humanity's history 61 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:42,240 right now? 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,599 Speaker 2: Look what's going on on our planet? 63 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean the couple things. 64 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not too much. That's a very dull place, 65 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,879 I think. Well, first, of all our in the sense 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:03,719 invitation energetically to extraterrestrials. By starting to explore space, that 67 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,080 we are becoming aware we're not the only planet around, 68 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,680 probably not the only civilization. That kind of triggers a 69 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:15,800 message to them energetically that we might be ready for 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,120 some form of connection, some form of dialogue to see 71 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:21,759 whether we want to move forward with the idea of 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,839 contact or not. So that's one thing. Secondly, obviously we 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,319 are in need of different tools at this point. You know, 74 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,720 in the twenty first century, we have to sort of 75 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,360 let go of a lot of outdated and old fashioned 76 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,680 definitions and ideas, and they recognize that now is the 77 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,600 time to introduce some new ideas and definitions, and hopefully 78 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:49,439 that makes a change in our reality or at least 79 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:52,920 some people's reality, to again sort of change our vibration 80 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,399 and bring us closer to the possibility of making contact 81 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:57,319 with them. 82 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,399 Speaker 1: So let me ask you. Then, you said something that's interesting, 83 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,480 that we have to let go of old ideas, things 84 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:07,560 that aren't serving us anymore. But so many of these ideas, 85 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,480 these things that we're doing, are so entrenched that it's 86 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,920 almost impossible at this point unless there's a group, collective 87 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:20,279 choosing of change, kind of like I think when the 88 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,399 pandemic happened, it was the first big shock to the 89 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:27,199 system where now people are working from home, people are 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,600 reevaluating their lives. It was that giant break that the 91 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:34,959 entire planet essentially needed. It was very odd. It's never 92 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,000 happened in human history to my understanding. 93 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, not certainly in this way. But again, they take 94 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,279 advantage of those kinds of things. They recognize that that 95 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:51,079 is a psychological change, a shift where people start looking 96 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,319 for different things, start opening up to different ideas, and 97 00:05:55,399 --> 00:05:58,439 so they're willing to sort of use that and see 98 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,879 what we're willing to absorb. But it doesn't have to 99 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,319 necessarily happen all at once. Collectively, you know, the more 100 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:09,879 individuals changed themselves, then over time it becomes a collective, 101 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,560 you know, just like anything, each generation starts becoming a 102 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,959 new collective with new ideas. I mean, think about it 103 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:22,800 this way. Really, you know, since you know, the late sixties, 104 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,720 there has been no one born who doesn't think we 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,319 haven't been in space, right, So it's like, you know, 106 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,680 when I was born, that was not something that was true. 107 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:38,680 But you know, now, what thirty year olds, forty year 108 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,360 old's fifty year olds have always thought that we've been 109 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,720 in space. So that's a big shift in our collective 110 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,959 consciousness and an opening, like I said, kind of an 111 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,079 invitation for other beings to recognize that we may be 112 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:56,759 ready for more awareness of what's in space. 113 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:01,399 Speaker 1: So is because a lot of them, of the ideas 114 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:06,959 and messages that Bashar puts out, they are you know, 115 00:07:07,079 --> 00:07:10,560 talking about space and talking about technology to a certain extent, 116 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:15,800 but it's all about internal growth, internal evolution of the 117 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:20,160 human soul and humanity in general. I have to ask 118 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:26,680 why do they care? Why even bother we're savages. 119 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,839 Speaker 2: Well in some senses, without going into a deeper explanation 120 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,959 of this story, we are family with them, so they 121 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,000 see us that way, and we have actually some genetic 122 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,279 connection to his civilization. That's a big story. It's a 123 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:49,439 long story, but they do see us as family and 124 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:53,959 they are trying to help. They know what it's like 125 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,079 to be part of a larger galactic community. They know 126 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,600 what it can do for a civilization in terms of 127 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,720 changing their perspective and outlook on life and so but 128 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,720 again they're not forcing us to do anything, which is 129 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:09,319 why they're sort of staying in the background and just 130 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,600 delivering information in various ways through channels and so on 131 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:15,560 and so forth, to see what we're willing to take on, 132 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,519 what we're willing to grab on to, and then decide 133 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,519 for ourselves whether we want to go farther. But from 134 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:27,519 their perspective, the kind of civilization they are, they are 135 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:33,039 passionate about helping people wake up. It's just the way 136 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,720 that they're oriented because they know what it's done for 137 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,679 them to have evolved to this point where they expand 138 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,000 their consciousness and what's available to someone when their consciousness 139 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,519 is open. And you know, again they're not forcing us 140 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,960 to take their word for it, but they're saying, here's 141 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,559 a toolkit, and if you apply this in your life, 142 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,360 you'll prove to yourself that there are other ways that 143 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:57,600 you can live and maybe that will make a difference 144 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:00,639 in how you experience life on their world. Oh, it's 145 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:01,840 just the way they operate. 146 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: So when you said awake, and that's something and I 147 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,759 have a book read behind me that says awake and awaken, 148 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,759 and Yogis have been talking about it for five thousand years, 149 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:17,360 to awaken out of Maya and this illusion and it's 150 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:21,960 been many different philosophies and religions over the years. We'll 151 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:28,000 be right back after a word from our sponsor, and 152 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,960 now back to the show. Can you explain when you 153 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,039 say awake? Is that word which a word that's been 154 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,559 coined now it's simulation theory, which is essentially maya which 155 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,559 we are in an illusion? Is that what you mean 156 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:47,360 by awake? You're awakening to the reality of Oh, this 157 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,279 isn't real. 158 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: We are in. 159 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: This different level of existence, but this is not the 160 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,080 end all be all. 161 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of it. And I would say when 162 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:58,720 we use the word illusion, I want to be careful 163 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:03,480 because it's not that the experience of physical reality isn't real. 164 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,039 The experience is very real. But we are, according to him, 165 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:12,519 and like you said many other teachers over time, we 166 00:10:12,639 --> 00:10:16,200 are the ones creating this illusion. It's a projection of consciousness. 167 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:20,480 I just saw a recent article that you know, even 168 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,120 quantum physics is starting to catch up to the idea 169 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:25,519 that hey, all of this is just a holographic projection 170 00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:29,879 of some sort from somewhere. So even science is starting 171 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:34,879 to talk about the ephemeral nature of physical reality. And 172 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,759 so yeah, it's about becoming aware that what we experience 173 00:10:38,879 --> 00:10:43,320 in life is our creation, and that it's determined by 174 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,080 what we believe to be true about ourselves and what 175 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,399 kind of process we're attempting to experience to help ourselves 176 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,679 learn and grow. From Bashar's point of view, that's the 177 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,759 whole point of physical reality. It's sort of like forgetting 178 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:59,879 that you're an expanded being so that you can rediscover 179 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,639 that you're an expanded being from another perspective. And that's 180 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:08,200 how creation expands. Because the structure of existence, according to him, 181 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,440 never changes. It is what it is, but your relationship 182 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,320 to it, your experience of it, your perspective of it, changes, 183 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:21,200 and that's how creation grows. And so the idea of 184 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:28,039 going through these physical experiences, these limited experiences, with the 185 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,720 attempt or potential to break through that illusion and realize 186 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:37,879 that you have created this for yourself for a specific purpose, 187 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:42,799 really expands your consciousness, gives you a whole different perspective 188 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,240 on life, and just makes things a lot more understandable. 189 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:50,639 Speaker 1: Right because it seems, you know, when you don't have 190 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,759 that kind of understanding of a wider consciousness, this all 191 00:11:53,799 --> 00:11:56,600 seems random and chaotic. 192 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,759 Speaker 2: Chaos, crazy, yeah, you know, but when you understand the 193 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:03,039 nature of it and the structure of it and how 194 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,600 we create it, and which is what Bishar explains a 195 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,360 lot of then it becomes something that you can really 196 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,120 be in the driver's seat about and have the experience 197 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:16,080 that will still give you the lessons you want to 198 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:18,720 learn and help you grow. But it doesn't have to 199 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:21,320 be suffering. It doesn't have to be a struggle anymore. 200 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,639 So this is our awakening, is that we don't necessarily 201 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:29,120 have to struggle, We don't have to suffer. Challenges, of course, 202 00:12:29,159 --> 00:12:31,799 will always come around, but from Bashard's point of view, 203 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,639 challenges are fun. It's what helps us get a new 204 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,320 perspective and grow. So it's not about losing the challenges, 205 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,600 but it's about losing the suffering and the struggling that 206 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:45,159 we've been prone to for thousands of years because our 207 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,159 choices have been limited, because our knowledge has been limited. 208 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,320 So they're trying to help us understand how things really work, 209 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:56,519 expand our knowledge of the universe and creation and reality 210 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:58,919 so that we have more tools to work with, so 211 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,879 that we can more creative people in a way that 212 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,600 doesn't make us struggle and suffer. 213 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:08,639 Speaker 1: So you mentioned that we choose our reality, and we 214 00:13:08,879 --> 00:13:11,480 choose this projection that's in front of us. Can you 215 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,320 kind of dig into that a little bit, explain it 216 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,000 to people who might not understand that we are literally 217 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:19,399 creating the reality that we're walking every day. 218 00:13:19,879 --> 00:13:22,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, there's a lot of confusion in using 219 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,080 that word, and you know, the language itself is very limited. 220 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 So when I say, and when Bashar says, we choose, 221 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,399 it doesn't mean that we're choosing consciously. So in other words, 222 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,279 it's not like saying, oh, you know, you consciously choose 223 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,200 to get into an accident. But what he's saying is 224 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:42,919 the belief systems, the definitions about yourself in relation to 225 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:46,440 life that you are choosing because you've been taught to 226 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:49,919 choose them, like I'm not worthy, or you know, bad 227 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,360 things inevitably happen to me, or things like that that 228 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:58,000 are sort of simmering around in the unconscious mind cause 229 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 certain effects to happen. And that's what he means by 230 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:04,600 we're choosing it and we're creating it. And so a 231 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:09,559 big part of his information is how to get in 232 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:13,080 touch and become aware of the beliefs that you've bought 233 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,039 into about yourself in relation to anything that happens, so 234 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 that you can have a better definition and a better 235 00:14:19,799 --> 00:14:22,879 relationship with that thing and use it to your advantage 236 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:26,320 instead of going on automatic, so to speak, and just 237 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,720 letting the unconscious beliefs run your life. It's becoming more 238 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:32,879 aware of yourself, more awake about who you are. It 239 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,600 kind of goes back to that old saying, know thyself 240 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:39,559 and really investigate yourself to understand why do you believe 241 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,039 what you believe about yourself? Why do you still hold 242 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:46,000 on to something that maybe your parents, your schooling, your friends, 243 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,720 or your society taught you that isn't working for you, 244 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,879 that isn't who you really are. So it's really about 245 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:55,960 digging deeper in yourself, finding out what you believe to 246 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 be true and understanding whether or not you want to 247 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:02,120 keep holding onto that or replace it with a definition 248 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,559 and a belief that better suits you. That will then 249 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:08,480 cause a change to happen in the way you experience 250 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:10,200 your life and your physical reality. 251 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:14,279 Speaker 1: But what you're suggesting is for many people scary to 252 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:17,639 look inward, to look inside, to analyze yourself. 253 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,879 Speaker 2: Is why is it scary? That's another definition. That's another 254 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,559 day we get caught up in these chains and links 255 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,159 of definitions, one reinforcing the other. So we have a 256 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:32,919 lot of definitions that even prevent us from finding those 257 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,960 definitions because we're too afraid that if we go looking, 258 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:40,600 what we're afraid will will be true, will be true, 259 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,600 and from Bashar's perspective, it's never really going to be true, 260 00:15:44,879 --> 00:15:49,559 because you know, we're a part of creation. We're reflections 261 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,159 of creation God all that is, whatever you want to 262 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:55,480 call it, and from his point of view, creation doesn't 263 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,519 make mistakes. So if we exist, which we do, then 264 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:03,320 we're worth of that existence. And to believe that we're 265 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,000 not worthy, we're not deserving in a sense, is arguing 266 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:09,960 with creation. Well, Bashar says, we'll never win that argument 267 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,960 because we can never cease to exist. So you might 268 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 as well take it on the fact of your existence 269 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,159 that you are worthy of your existence and stop, you know, 270 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,120 bemoaning and berating yourself and thinking less of yourself. We 271 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,399 are reflections of creation, and we are here to allow 272 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,600 creation to be all that it is. So you know, 273 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:34,200 we have to start at this very fundamental level of 274 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,159 breaking those chains of negative definitions that keep us down. 275 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:41,440 And we don't even know or are aware that we 276 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:44,799 have a lot of these definitions, so finding them, bringing 277 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:47,480 them to the surface, going wait a minute, this makes 278 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:50,240 no sense. It doesn't make sense in life to think 279 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:52,879 this way, to believe this way is the first step 280 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 from Bishar's point of view, as to how we start 281 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,240 breaking those chains and freeing ourselves to realize we can 282 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,000 choose the define miss that work for us because we 283 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,279 are each unique. We have a different perspective from anyone else, 284 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,839 and we are a unique part of creation, and we 285 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,880 deserve to express our full selves in life. 286 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:13,759 Speaker 1: So is that is that what is happening right now 287 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,599 in society in general? I feel that that that there's 288 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:19,880 a lot of stuff that was under the surface is 289 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,039 bubbled up, and that's why there's so much more everything, 290 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,519 I mean, between war and violence and politics and economy. 291 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,359 Is that what's happening in humanity right now? 292 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: He said that very very because people say, you know, 293 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,039 why is it so crazy right now? And he's saying, well, 294 00:17:36,079 --> 00:17:39,039 you know, you've been doing this cycle of negativity for 295 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,000 thousands of years. You're kind of at the end and 296 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:47,160 you're about to shift into something different. But in order 297 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,160 to do so, you kind of have to get everything 298 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,279 out on the table. All of the negativity, all of 299 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:56,039 the positivity, every choice that could possibly be made, you're 300 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:59,279 now sort of seeing in one place. So it's giving 301 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,640 us an opportunity. Need to go do we want to 302 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,160 continue this way? I mean, look how strong the reflections 303 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,480 are of you know, things that are going on now, 304 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:11,359 Like you're saying, you know, war and racism and all 305 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,319 this stuff is just really bubbling to the surface because 306 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,680 it's about time for us to face all these issues 307 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,400 and really make choices about what kind of world we 308 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,880 want to have. So it's a little more complex than that, 309 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,599 but Bishar is basically saying, like, here's your opportunity. It's 310 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,640 only going to you know, probably be available for a while, 311 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:34,240 and some people are going to make certain choices that 312 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,680 take them in one way, and other people going to 313 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,759 make choices that take them in another direction. And what 314 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,599 he's saying is, you know this this goes into the 315 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:46,119 whole idea of parallel realities because he's saying everything exists 316 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,640 all at once. You know, time is an illusion, and 317 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:52,720 there are different versions of Earth that exist right now. 318 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,920 And the idea is not that we change the world 319 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,960 we're on, but that we change our vibration and it 320 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,359 navigates us in the direction of a parallel version of 321 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,079 Earth that's already more reflective of what we prefer or 322 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:07,799 what we don't. So right now, it's like a melting 323 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:12,279 pot of ideas. Here's negativity, here's positivity, here's neutrality, here's 324 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:15,119 all these things we could choose. What do you want 325 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,599 to choose? 326 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 327 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:24,559 and now back to the show. 328 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: So when people start choosing one thing over another, even 329 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,160 individually and collectively, they start going that way, and eventually, 330 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,599 he's saying, in the years to come, you know, the 331 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,200 more people that choose a particular direction will actually sort 332 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,519 of create a crystallization of that perspective for themselves and 333 00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:50,240 will no longer be able to even experience people with 334 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:53,079 a different idea. So he's saying this is called the 335 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,240 splitting prism from his perspective, and it's like we're literally 336 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,200 in a train station and we're deciding what train and 337 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,119 what track we're going to be on. But eventually whatever 338 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,640 train you've bored is going to be the only train 339 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:09,240 that you can go on to because now all the 340 00:20:09,279 --> 00:20:12,000 tracks are going away in different directions, and once you're 341 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,200 too far away on your direction, it's going to be 342 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,599 even harder to go and decide, oh, I want to 343 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:18,839 be on that other train, because now it's like hundreds 344 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:21,720 of miles away. So this is the time of choice. 345 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,640 This is the time of choosing what reality we want 346 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:27,559 and what we will inevitably experience. While other people will 347 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:31,480 experience other kinds of realities completely different than ours, but 348 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:34,559 they'll experience that in a different parallel reality. 349 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:36,799 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think at this point, even in 350 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,240 this reality, there are people who are experiencing things at 351 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:43,559 completely different levels, whether it's poverty, whether it's violence, whether 352 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:47,519 it's everything. Is it true from Baschard's point of view, 353 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,799 that we are vibration and the higher the vibration is 354 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:57,720 what we attract to us. So in other words, you know, 355 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,599 a Yogi mass or a Sufi, a Sufi master or 356 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:07,559 something like that is probably not going to get mugged 357 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,240 on the street, give or take. 358 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,319 Speaker 2: There is a lesson in there that he has to 359 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,880 learn business share it. But generally speaking, generally speaking, yes, 360 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,039 it's all about resonance. It's all about frequency. What you 361 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,119 put out is what you get back. It's like a 362 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,079 tuning fork. You know, you operate at a certain frequency. 363 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,799 That's what you get reflected back to you, because that's 364 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:32,200 all that you can get reflected back to you. He's 365 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,160 basically saying, you can't experience what you're not the vibration of, 366 00:21:35,599 --> 00:21:38,400 and conversely, you can only experience what you are the 367 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,119 vibration of. Now Again, as we said, there's some leeway 368 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,000 in there about what happens because people have been trained 369 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,960 to assign particular meaning to certain kinds of things. And 370 00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:54,000 basically Bishar is saying he doesn't mean this negatively. Life 371 00:21:54,039 --> 00:21:57,880 is meaningless, it has no built in meaning. We give 372 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,079 it meaning and that's how we experience. And so whatever 373 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,240 vibrational level you're at is how you start interpreting the 374 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,720 neutral things that are happening and you infuse them with meaning, 375 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,440 and that starts coloring your world about how you see 376 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,279 things and how you experience things, because you can, if 377 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:17,960 you really stop and think about it, you can experience 378 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,640 a lot of events in very different ways, depending on 379 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:25,319 your vibration, on your attitude, on your relationship to what's happening. 380 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,480 And he's saying, if you stay in a positive state 381 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:29,880 no matter what's happening, even if something's happening, you don't 382 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,759 objectively prefer It's got to be happening for a reason. 383 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,440 If you're experiencing it, and if you stay in a 384 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,680 positive state, you'll be able to get a benefit from it. 385 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,640 You'll be able to learn something from it that will 386 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,559 propel you forward in a positive way. He's saying, even 387 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:47,720 if nothing else, it can be as simple as you know, 388 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,960 manifesting something in front of you that you don't prefer 389 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:55,359 gives you clarity about what you do prefer by contrast, 390 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,039 and that's a positive way to use what you don't prefer. 391 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,920 And when we use it that way, instead of thinking, oh, 392 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,759 this thing manifested in my life, something must be going wrong. 393 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:06,680 I'm doing something wrong. I shouldn't be experiencing this. I 394 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,880 should be beyond this. If it's happening, it's happening for 395 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,920 a reason. It's there, and it's there, maybe even to 396 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,880 test yourself to see are you going to react the 397 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,319 same old way and give it the same old negative 398 00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:19,400 definition that you used to, or are you going to 399 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,599 respond differently to the situation, Because from his perspective, it's 400 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,839 not about the outside world changing that proves you've changed. 401 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,559 It's about you responding differently to what's going on, even 402 00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:34,759 if it still looks the same. That's what proves you've changed, 403 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,759 because if you really haven't changed, and you really respond 404 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:40,960 the same old way or react the same old way, 405 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480 well then why should the outside world change because you 406 00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:45,880 really haven't because you're still reacting the same way you 407 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,480 used to. So reacting differently, responding differently is what actually 408 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:54,799 change is all about, and then ultimately will cause the 409 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:57,440 outside to change, because it's just a mirror. It's just 410 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,359 a reflection. And it's like saying I'm looking in mirror 411 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,319 and I'm watching my face frown, but I insist that 412 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,960 it should smile. It's not going to smile until you do. 413 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,680 It just can't. It's a mirror, right. 414 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: It's like when I was younger, I had road rage 415 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:14,680 because I was an angry dude when I was younger, 416 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,440 and I mean, I mean, I mean, I come from 417 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:25,960 Los Angeles, Jesus uhlive. But but as I've gotten older 418 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,799 and hopefully evolved a bit more as an adult or 419 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:33,960 as a soul, things like that don't bother. I don't 420 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,759 take it personal. If someone's like, I'm like, I just 421 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,240 walk and just let it go. But when I was younger, 422 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:43,720 I would just got in there. It was crazy, right. 423 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:46,799 Speaker 2: Because you have definitions, unconscious definitions that you think something 424 00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:49,000 wrong is happening to you right now? 425 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:51,519 Speaker 1: Dare you cut me off? 426 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,279 Speaker 2: Right? And who I am? Yeah? I heard a story 427 00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:01,480 the other day about a a person at the check 428 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:05,240 encounter at an airport who was facing a customer like that, right, 429 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,079 he didn't get what he wanted, like, don't you know 430 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,000 who I am? And she just got on the intercom 431 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,559 and said, if there's someone in the airport who can 432 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,160 come and help us, I have a gentleman here who 433 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,359 doesn't know who is way to handle that? 434 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,759 Speaker 1: What an amazing way to handle that. Oh my god, 435 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:26,759 that's amazing. You touched upon something in regards to know 436 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:29,960 everything being meaningless in a sense, and I understand what 437 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,519 you mean by that and the concepts of good and bad, 438 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,480 and that from my understanding, from what I've been able 439 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:41,240 to comprehend, is that good and bad are relative concepts 440 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,720 that we apply based on our moral set that is 441 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,759 given to us by our societies. 442 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: There are value judgments. Vishar avoids using the words good 443 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,720 and bad. He talks about positive and negative energies, and 444 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,319 from his perspective, that's really just a mechanical discription. In 445 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,240 other words, positive is what unites, what expands, what connects. 446 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,440 Negative is simply what segregates, diminishes, separates, you know, and 447 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,119 can sort of you know, reduce your perspective, limit your perspective. 448 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,519 So he's really talking about the idea that, yes, there 449 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:23,440 can be positive, there can be negative, but sometimes you 450 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,680 can also use a negative thing for a positive reason 451 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,000 and a positive thing for a negative reason. So that's 452 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,960 why he avoids the idea of the value judgments of 453 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,319 good and bad because that's really nebulous from his perspective. 454 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,519 And he's trying to describe what's happening to us energetically 455 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,079 and mechanically when we think about it in terms of 456 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,799 positive and negative energy or a mechanism that we're using, 457 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:48,720 because look at I mean, we've got you know, we 458 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:53,079 are these expanded beings, these unlimited spirits, but we have 459 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,039 used the idea of a negative mechanism to limit our 460 00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:00,319 consciousness in order to have a physical experience, because we 461 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,799 are more than this. So we're using a quote unquote 462 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,599 negative mechanism for a positive reason. And that's why it's 463 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,200 not just cut and dried, black and White Da him 464 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,519 depends on what you do with it. How do you 465 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:12,960 use it? 466 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: Now you mentioned Bashard's formula. Can you there's I think 467 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,279 four or five steps in that. Can you just yeah, five? 468 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,640 Can you just quickly kind of go over those five steps? 469 00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:28,279 Speaker 2: Sure? And each of these require a deeper explanation for 470 00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:31,079 people to truly understand how this works. And this is 471 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,279 a toolkit. In fact, he actually refers to it as 472 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:35,880 an instruction manual, the same way that you would get 473 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480 an instruction manual to operate a piece of machinery. He said, 474 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,079 if you follow the instructions, the machine will work as 475 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,039 advertised to your benefit. If you don't, maybe the machine 476 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:46,519 will work, but maybe you'll injure yourself or something else 477 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:50,359 will fall apart in the machine. So the five steps 478 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,079 in his instruction manual or the formula are to act 479 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,519 on your passion, to do it as fully as you can, 480 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,279 for as long as you can, until you can do 481 00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:02,359 it no further. To act on it. And this is 482 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,160 a big one for a lot of people, to act 483 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,599 on it with absolutely zero assumption or a zero insistence 484 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:09,880 on what the outcome of that action should look like 485 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,400 or be. Number four, stay in a positive state no 486 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,640 matter what happens, because you can get a benefit out 487 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,920 of it that way. And number five, you have to 488 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,839 allow yourself to really examine your belief systems to find 489 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,519 out why you believe what you believe, because very often 490 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,680 we just do it out of habit. And so it's 491 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,839 those five things allow people to gain an insight and 492 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,160 gain in a sense control over their lives when they're 493 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,799 applying this very specifically and very precisely in their lives. 494 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,799 When they do that, all these things start happening that 495 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:50,160 are connected to it. Our lives become synchronistic, more synchronosity 496 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,440 happens in our lives. It becomes a path of least resistance. 497 00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,160 It connects us to other expressions of our excitement. It 498 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400 becomes the driving engine in our lives, giving us the 499 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,920 energy to move forward. It reflects to us anything out 500 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200 of alignment within our belief system so that we can 501 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,599 examine it and let it go. It connects us to 502 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960 whatever form of support we need. These things happen automatically 503 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,359 when you follow those five steps. It's really magical. But 504 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,839 it is not just the idea of magic. It's the 505 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,519 idea that this is how reality works. He's actually describing 506 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,319 to us how we're creating our reality, but we don't 507 00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,799 know that we're doing it this way. So when we 508 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 follow those five steps for the reasons that he explains 509 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,079 why they're important, then it just opens everything up and 510 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,720 you start seeing how everything is connected and how you 511 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:41,839 can take advantage of any situation that happens in your 512 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,359 life and see it from a completely different perspective. It's 513 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:46,839 really quite astonishing. 514 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 515 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,519 and now back to the show. And it's pretty powerful. 516 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,839 Steps those five steps. You can do that, which is not, 517 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:04,559 by the way, easy all the time. 518 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,599 Speaker 2: Believe that's a belief. 519 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,039 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I. 520 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: Know what you mean. I know what you mean. It 521 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,119 is challenging because we are so ingrained in outdated definitions. Correct, 522 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,519 you're right and that. But he's also said, there's no 523 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,720 such thing as a difficult situation. Only our definitions make 524 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:26,039 it difficult. So we have to hold on to the idea. 525 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480 This is why it's so important from his perspective, to 526 00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:33,200 create new definitions, because a lot of metaphysical thought, a 527 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,640 lot of spiritual thought, is structured on very outdated definitions, 528 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,240 and we're not understanding we may be describing an experience, 529 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,880 but we're not necessarily describing the mechanism that is causing 530 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,759 the experience, even though we may think we are. So 531 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,079 that difference, I mean, let this analogy works. He is 532 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:58,119 given will say that the sun sets. We know the 533 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,920 sun doesn't set. We know the Earth evolves, and that's 534 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,599 why we see that experience. So describing the experience of 535 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,119 a sunset doesn't describe the mechanism that causes that experience. 536 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,039 And this is the vast difference. What he's saying about 537 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,960 certain metaphysical concepts we have and why we think they work, 538 00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:22,640 are not why they work. And by getting caught up 539 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,480 in the old definitions, we get caught up in repeating 540 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,759 the same patterns, the same habits, and all this kind 541 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,119 of stuff, and we can't figure out how to get 542 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,000 out of it. It's the new definitions. It's seeing the 543 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:38,119 mechanism for what it is that creates the experience, that 544 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,359 frees us to see things in a different way. In 545 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,559 the same way that when scientists decided, oh, it's the 546 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,799 Earth that revolves around the sun, and the Sun isn't 547 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:51,519 actually revolving around the Earth, it changed our entire reality. 548 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,960 So it's the same thing metaphysically that Vishar is attempting 549 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880 to do for us is give his definitions that unlock 550 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:02,000 us from the past and propel us toward the future 551 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,880 from a completely different perspective. 552 00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,839 Speaker 1: So those definitions that you're talking about that are outdated, 553 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:12,839 those those definitions when they were created, were created for 554 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,200 the time and evolution of the people at that moment 555 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,359 in time, which is basically religion. A lot of ideas 556 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:24,359 that were talked about two thousand years ago don't apply 557 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,039 too much right now because in the Bible, slavery was okay, 558 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440 I mean pretty much everyone had it back then. Now 559 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:37,039 it's frowned upon and as it should be. But that's 560 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,000 an example, a very you know, a very interesting example 561 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:45,759 of old ideas, old definitions at old just everything that 562 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:49,240 don't apply to us today and how it needs to evolve. 563 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,319 Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement, Yes, And that's exactly what 564 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,480 he's doing. So again, a deeper understanding of the metaphysical 565 00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:59,839 side of that evolution, again is what allows us to 566 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:04,400 understand how reality works more deeply and allows us to 567 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,559 sort of open our eyes and say, oh, you know, 568 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,839 I am free to do this, I am free to 569 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:11,799 see things in a different way. I am free to 570 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,079 explore something I never thought I could explore because I 571 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,119 didn't understand how it actually worked. So now we can 572 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,440 do that if we understand the information that he's sharing 573 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,079 with us. 574 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:26,359 Speaker 1: And again, I mean, I've brought this movie up so 575 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,119 many times on the show, and I'll continue to bring 576 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,440 it up because it is just such a deep, onion 577 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,039 layered film, which is the Matrix. You're a sci fi guy, 578 00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,200 I'm a sci fi guy. We'd love that kind of stuff. 579 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,160 But the more you look at the first Matrix, the 580 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,200 more you understand that journey. As as Neo is starting 581 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,359 to realize his true nature, he's starting to understand how 582 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,640 to bend reality in the matrix, which is an analogy 583 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,480 for our illusion if you will or maya if you will, 584 00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,319 the reality we're in, he's able to start bending it. 585 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,839 So obviously that's a fantastical way of looking upon it. 586 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,400 We're not going to maybe we could dotch bullets, I'm 587 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,159 not sure, but being able to move our reality in 588 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:14,159 a different way, and I've experienced very, very heavily that 589 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:19,039 ability to be able to shift reality in the directions 590 00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:20,679 I wanted to go. And it start off with some 591 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,039 small little things. But as you get older and you 592 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:25,400 start practicing it more, you start going no, I think, 593 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,039 go here there. 594 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,079 Speaker 2: And it's like anything you practice and you get better 595 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,000 at it and your reality starts reflecting that ability. So yeah, 596 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,960 I and I'm seeing insane synchronicities in my life that 597 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,559 are just you know, crazy stuff, but it's becoming the normal. 598 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,639 You know, things just happen, Things just show up when 599 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,000 they need to precisely perfectly, and it's like, okay, you 600 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000 know that that tells me I'm aligned with myself and 601 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,679 that I'm applying these things in the way that actually 602 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,079 makes me able to speer my life in a better direction. 603 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,880 So yeah, there are actual physical results to this. 604 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,519 Speaker 1: Yes, it's pretty it's and I know a lot of 605 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:06,000 people talk about the law of attraction and now the 606 00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:07,960 whole secret thing, and there is a I think that 607 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:12,880 was just such a top layer of that concept, but 608 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,400 it did introduce it to a mass amount of people. 609 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,199 Speaker 2: Yes, And actually Bashar relatively recently talked about how there's 610 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,639 a little bit of a misunderstanding with the law of attraction. 611 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,679 It is what you put out is what you get back. 612 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,320 But I, at least as far as I was exposed 613 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,159 to it, and it's not wrong. The idea that you 614 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,000 have to be of a certain frequency to attract certain 615 00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,199 things is correct. I think where he's saying we have 616 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,519 a little bit of a misunderstanding is we think we 617 00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:47,119 have to learn that frequency. What he's saying is it's 618 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:51,440 just the opposite. We are that frequency. That's our natural state. 619 00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:55,400 It's our core vibration, and our core vibration is designed 620 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,199 to attractt everything we need in life. So it's not 621 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,559 about having to learn that frequency. It's about getting out 622 00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:07,360 of its way. It's about not having beliefs that block 623 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,239 that frequency. So it's more a matter of getting things 624 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920 that aren't relevant for us out of the way than 625 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,719 it is having to learn how to give off that 626 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,119 frequency that's our natural frequency. 627 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like taking layers off of clothes. Little 628 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,639 like you're stacked on with tons and tons of coats 629 00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,920 and jackets and sweaters, and slowly but surely you're pulling 630 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,599 it away to get to the true essence of who 631 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:32,400 you are without all that crap on you. 632 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: Exactly, if you want the sun to reach your skin, 633 00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:36,800 you've got to take all those clothes. 634 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,199 Speaker 1: Off, right, and little by little but we walk around 635 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,320 many with tons and tons of stuff on top of you. 636 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: Right, So when you know, when people go around thinking, Okay, 637 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,559 I've got to learn this frequency, it's kind of like 638 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,000 they don't really realize that they're wearing all these clothes, 639 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,920 you know. It's like they're trying to do something that 640 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,280 they're already doing but don't know they're doing, and it 641 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,320 causes a lot of diffusion. So if they realize that 642 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,159 that frequency is really who we are and we just 643 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,320 have to strip off all this other stuff that's not 644 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,559 who we are, then it's an easier idea. It's something 645 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:14,519 that we can start looking specifically at, well, what is 646 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,400 in the way of that frequency, rather than what do 647 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960 I do to learn that frequency? You know, because that 648 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,440 can be kind of very nebulous, what do I do? 649 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:24,679 You know? But it's like, oh, I can find this 650 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,920 negative belief, I can find this fear based belief within me, 651 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,639 and I can let it go, and that clears the 652 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:33,320 way for that frequency to attract what you're named because 653 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,280 it's already operating like a whitehouse. 654 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's just knowledge, it's just information 655 00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,119 that we need to If you don't know what you're 656 00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:45,480 looking for. So that's the insanity of what we were 657 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:48,760 talking about, which is like, I need to find how 658 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,119 to run faster, learn how to run faster with all 659 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,400 these coats on. I'm like, you could just take off 660 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,079 the coats, but you don't know that you're wearing the 661 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:57,760 coats exactly. 662 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: And that's that, to me, is the essential benefit of 663 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,719 Bishard's information. He's exactly telling you what to look for 664 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,639 and how to let it go, how to take that 665 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,039 code off. Specifically mechanically speaking, it's just like, this is 666 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:16,320 an instant manual. Unbutton the button, unbutton the button, unbutton 667 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,400 the button, take it off. He's literally guiding us that specifically. 668 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,079 Speaker 1: Well, it's Plato's allegory of the cave. I mean, it's 669 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:28,800 essentially it. We're trying to let everybody know there's something outside. 670 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,159 Speaker 2: It's not going to be afraid it, don't be afraid. 671 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of light outside, but go 672 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,159 outside is much better than this shadow show on the 673 00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,400 walls that we've been thinking is real exactly. 674 00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: But see, here's the thing he talks about, you know, 675 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:48,000 the structure of beliefs, positive negative beliefs, because physical reality 676 00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:52,280 isn't real beliefs are what make it seem real because 677 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,360 they reinforce themselves with emotions and thoughts and behaviors that 678 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960 reinforce the idea that what the belief is telling us 679 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:03,400 is a fact. But when you understand the belief is 680 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:07,920 just a belief, then you can deconstruct it and let 681 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,239 it go. But beliefs are designed to perpetuate themselves because 682 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,920 they have to, or we wouldn't have a physical experience 683 00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:17,920 because physical reality isn't real. So a positive belief, we 684 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,079 don't care if it reinforces itself because we like what 685 00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,719 it's telling us about ourselves. But the negative beliefs have. 686 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: To use we'll be right back after a word from 687 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:36,400 our sponsor and now back to the show, sort. 688 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: Of negative mechanisms to reinforce themselves. They're not doing it maliciously, 689 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,119 it's just the way they're designed to perpetuate a physical experience. 690 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:48,760 So many times a negative belief will will have its 691 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,039 own set of tools, so to speak, to prevent you 692 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,400 from finding it, so it'll make you afraid to look, 693 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,119 which you have to right exactly, so you have to 694 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:03,360 be aware that that is not a fact, that something 695 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,159 worse will happen if you go looking for the negative belief. 696 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:08,639 It's just what the negative belief is telling you in 697 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,039 order to perpetuate itself so that you can keep having 698 00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,199 a physical experience. Once you understand that, you have a 699 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,800 skeleton key to unlock it, because now you go, oh, 700 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,119 it's not a fact. This is just a story it's 701 00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,760 telling me about myself. I don't have to buy into 702 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,440 this story. I can replace it with a different belief 703 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,280 and have a different story experience. 704 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: And the term story, you know, I've said that so 705 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,320 many times, is the story that you tell yourself, is 706 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,159 the story you live. So if you believe that you 707 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,800 are you know, loved, and are worthy of happiness and 708 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,679 worthy of you finding your dream and finding your mission 709 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,840 in life, and if you're all, that's all a story. 710 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,440 Where earlier in my life, I'm sure you as well, 711 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,360 before you started going down this path, you know, you 712 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,559 were probably I mean I was. I was angry. I 713 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,760 was angry, I mean angry at at why I was 714 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,559 working with you know, twenty three year old filmmakers who 715 00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,440 got three million dollars for their future. I'm like, who 716 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,159 the hell gave you this money? 717 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, Angry for a lot of reasons. You don't 718 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,880 even know why you're angry. 719 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,639 Speaker 1: You know, I was, I was so, I was so. 720 00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,400 I mean, I can't explain to you how angry I 721 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:23,039 was as a young man for no reason, because I 722 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:25,000 would be. I lived well, I had a family who 723 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:26,840 loved me, I had food over my had I had 724 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,079 no major traumas that I can think of, at least 725 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,400 that were I was pretty good. Looking back, it was 726 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,760 me I would have slapped. 727 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: Myself, yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, wake up. But yeah, you know, 728 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,199 but we see, we pick up a lot of stuff, 729 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,639 you know, body language, telepathically, all this stuff, growing up 730 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:49,960 in a society that is angry at not realizing its 731 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,679 full potential. See deep down, we know, you know, we 732 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,840 know that we're off base in a lot of ways. 733 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,000 And I think that because we haven't had the tools 734 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,280 to deal with that specifically, at least not you know, 735 00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:07,679 for the mass consensus. You know, we get angry at ourselves, 736 00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:09,760 and we get angry at life, and we get angry 737 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,239 why isn't it the way it wasn't spirit? And you know, 738 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,280 why can't we do this? And why can't we do that? 739 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,679 We forget that we are here for a reason to 740 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,840 learn something until we mature enough to start seeing that idea. 741 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,159 So yeah, we kind of come in picking up all 742 00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:29,159 sorts of anger from the society that's been experiencing negative 743 00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,039 things for thousands of years. And even, like you said, 744 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:34,920 when we have a great benefit in our lives, or 745 00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,239 several benefits in our lives, we tend to ignore that 746 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,519 and overlook it because we're just so caught up in 747 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:45,320 this emotional turmoil that is human society on earth and 748 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,400 has been for thousands of years with few exceptions, you know, 749 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,519 but all the great teachers that have come along, you 750 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:56,559 know whatever, Christ, Buddha, Krishna, whatever, they've all been saying 751 00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,679 the same thing. And it's not like, really follow me. 752 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,719 It's be like me. That's what it means. Sure, absolutely right. 753 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: Not one of them is like you must bow down, 754 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,159 you must get you must worshiped. None of them said that. 755 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: No, When you know, when Jesus says I am the way, 756 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,760 he means, be this way and everything will pull together, 757 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,039 he's not. It's not I'm the only one. He even said, 758 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960 you know, you are gods and you will do greater 759 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,920 things than I have done. So you know, people aren't 760 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,440 really listening to that. Because they're so used to feeling 761 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:32,039 worthless and powerless that all they can do is latch 762 00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:35,400 onto someone who isn't and follow them. But then a 763 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,599 whole bunch of misinterpretations happen because they think that person 764 00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,559 has all the power and they have none. All these 765 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,840 teachers have been trying to tell us we have all 766 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,639 the power and we are we are internally the kingdom 767 00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:53,079 of God. You know, it's just people aren't really. 768 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,639 Speaker 1: You know, right, as Yogunanda said, Christ was crucified for 769 00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:57,639 one day and his teaching is crucified for two thousand 770 00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:03,480 years black which is it's perfect, a perfect, perfect saying 771 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,800 which I glanted to ask you because you've met you 772 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,159 brought them up, these kind of masters, these kind of 773 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,360 ascended masters, as in Eastern Philosophy's call days ascended masters. 774 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,400 What is Bouchard's feeling about those those teachers, those masters, 775 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,800 over the course of thousands of years who've come, and 776 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,599 there's been many of them. It's not Jesus just happens 777 00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:32,239 to have a really good pr person. So does Buddha. 778 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 2: Exactly well, he says exactly what I said. It's like, 779 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,800 you know, our collective consciousness gives us these opportunities through 780 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,639 these beings on a regular basis every now and then 781 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,360 for every culture, and it's our opportunity to really open 782 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,360 up and pay attention to what they're telling us instead 783 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,000 of falling back into the old definitions. I am powerless, 784 00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:55,840 you are all powerful. I have to give you my fealty, 785 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,480 and I'm worthless and nothing without you. We have to 786 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,159 stop lit listening to that story, because that's not the 787 00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:04,599 story that these ascended masters are telling us. 788 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Now, I wanted to ask you what the 789 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,679 Shards definition of a soul is. 790 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,199 Speaker 2: A soul is an expression of your consciousness on a 791 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:30,719 certain level that explores expanding itself in a specific number 792 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,519 of ways. Because there are higher levels to that, some 793 00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,599 of which have been referred to in literature as over souls. 794 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,920 Of course, you know source all that is, God and 795 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,280 everything in between. But a soul is an individuated reflection 796 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,519 of all that is. In the same way, let's say 797 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,639 you're standing in the center of a hall of mirrors 798 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,960 and you see a reflection. That one reflection is a 799 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,880 unique reflection from a unique angle, unique perspective to him, 800 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,239 that's a soul. But because everything is made of consciousness, 801 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,679 it's also conscious. So each individual soul is a unique 802 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,559 reflection of God, Goddess, all that is that has its 803 00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:17,960 own unique ability to understand itself, to know itself from 804 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,800 that unique perspective, thus adding to the overall experience of 805 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,880 all that is of itself. So the soul, the individual soul, 806 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,599 can have individual experiences rather than collective ones. It's designed 807 00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,440 for the purpose of being able to sort of split 808 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,880 itself into non physical and physical consciousness, to have a 809 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:48,440 physical reality experience. I mean, from Bashark's perspective, because physical 810 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,519 reality is an illusion. He's saying, your natural state is spirit. 811 00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,559 You are there now, you're in spirit. You're kind of 812 00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:58,320 just pretending that you're not. You're dreaming that you're not 813 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,119 in spirit. A part of you is dreaming that it's not, 814 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,320 but most of you is in spirit. That's your natural state. 815 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400 And I would say, you know, in a sense, that's 816 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,840 your individual soul. Does that explain it enough? Yeah? 817 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's a fairly large question. So 818 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,920 I think you did fine. You know, it's like, what's 819 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,599 the meaning of life? Like, I mean, it's not a 820 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,360 one answer, one sentence answer, but no, that's a really 821 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,079 good I just wanted to get Bschard's perspective on that 822 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,639 concept of a soul because it's so it's been defined 823 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,280 so many different ways, again depending on societal and religious 824 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,000 and things. 825 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: And none of them in a sense are wrong definitions. 826 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,320 They're just different perspectives of that different. 827 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: They're different parts of the elephant in the room. 828 00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's kind of like it goes back 829 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,559 to what we're saying about, you know, ascended masters and things, 830 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,920 where you know, the way we look at it is, 831 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:55,440 you know, you have all of these antagonistic excluding kinds 832 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,280 of things where you know, one group is saying, hey, 833 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,400 Jesus is God, and another group is saying no, Christna 834 00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,599 is God. And another group is saying Jehovah is God, 835 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,400 and another people saying Allah is God. But it's not 836 00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,639 that Jesus is God, Christiana is God, Allah is God, 837 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,039 Jehovah's God. It's that God is Jesus, God is Allah, 838 00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,960 God is Jehovah, God is Christian. God is anything and 839 00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,199 everything and all of us and all that is. We're 840 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,840 made of it. We're made of God. There is nothing 841 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,679 outside of it. From Bisharkh's perspective, so it's it's we're 842 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,800 reversing the idea back to understanding that none of the 843 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,119 religions in a sense are wrong. It's just that they're 844 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,119 misunderstanding that there's a bigger picture to the idea and 845 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,440 they have a piece of it. They have a reflection 846 00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:44,079 of the whole, not the whole from some or their 847 00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:46,480 culture for their perspective. 848 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: Right, And again it's just tribal, it's it's societal. I mean, 849 00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:55,159 depending on where you wherever you were born, is the 850 00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:59,239 perspective of morals you're going to get right exactly. 851 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: So in a sense, it's just people have to understand 852 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,039 that all of those things are true and not just 853 00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,719 all I have the right one and you don't, and 854 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,199 you're going to hell because you don't. You know, all 855 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,760 of that in a sense is true. There are misinterpretations 856 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,679 in it, but the thing of it is is it's 857 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,320 all equal because it doesn't matter what path you take. 858 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,719 It all leads to the same understanding. 859 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 860 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:37,039 and now back to the show. So you bring up 861 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:41,199 a good point on something that there's a lot of 862 00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:43,599 stuff going on in the world right now, and there's 863 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:48,039 a lot of quote unquote bad stuff happening or things 864 00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:51,480 like that negatively, a lot of yet negative things happening. 865 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,800 Why do and this is a question I know a 866 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,559 lot of people have. This is why I'm asking it. 867 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,239 Why does God allow people like putin? 868 00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:05,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the wrong I think that's the 869 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,280 wrong question because God, God, being everything, doesn't need to allow. 870 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,159 God just is it just is. We are making the choices. 871 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,960 We have the freedom to choose. That's our greatest power. 872 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,840 We can be negative, we can be positive. You have 873 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,440 to realize that when you go to a dictionary and 874 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:26,159 look up the word unconditional, it means there are no conditions. 875 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,719 If we say, oh, God is unconditional love, we have 876 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,079 to really stress the word unconditional. It doesn't matter because 877 00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:37,760 everything is God. So yes, there are negative expressions of it, 878 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,719 there are positive expressions of it, but it's in our hands. 879 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,239 That's why we're individuated souls. We get to decide how 880 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,199 to express the idea. It's not that God willed it 881 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,679 or allows it. It just is part of what God is, 882 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,519 and we get to decide. The control is in our 883 00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:57,719 hands about how we want to express the part of 884 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,719 God we are. So we can't blame God for not 885 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,280 stepping in and intervening. Because it's an unconditional experience to exist, 886 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,679 we get to decide what that existence is. Like. 887 00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like at the beginning of 888 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,159 a football game. One one team has got on their side, 889 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:19,079 the other team has got on their side. I mean, 890 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,039 they're all both praying to like I need to win, 891 00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:22,960 I need to I love the other person, but I 892 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,800 want to destroy them today. Can you help me? Jesus? 893 00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:26,840 Like I always found that fascinating. 894 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And likewise, it's like, Okay, you know some people 895 00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:32,320 when good things happen, you know, they go praise Jesus. 896 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,280 Why don't they say praise Jesus when things don't go 897 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,559 their way? Isn't that also something that could serve them? 898 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,400 You know? But again it's that tribal, limited focused kind 899 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,760 of idea that it's you know, it's all about me, 900 00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,840 and it's all about my connection and no one else's 901 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,159 and it's just you know, it's everything, it's everything, and 902 00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:54,800 we get to decide what it is. So that's what 903 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,880 God is all about, is we get to decide. That's 904 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,199 what it means to have free will. Yes, we set 905 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,920 up our own destinies. But within that we have our 906 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,639 own free will too, so it's up to us. 907 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,159 Speaker 1: Now, a question I have for you is do we 908 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,920 have spiritual guidance through our lives? Do we have beings that, 909 00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:19,880 whether it be a sended master, spirit, guides, angels, whatever 910 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,280 on the other side, who are guiding us through our 911 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,440 our blueprint of our life though as we have set 912 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,079 it out before, our life plan to teach us the 913 00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:31,119 lessons that we need to learn. 914 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 2: Yes, they help, they guide, but they don't do it 915 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,360 for us corre, because it's up to us. But they 916 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,440 do suggest they do God. I mean in a sense 917 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,519 that question is almost like saying, well, do we have 918 00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,000 friends in life? Do we have family? Sure? Well, why 919 00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,880 is spirit any different? We have friends, we have family there, 920 00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,360 we have people that we may have interacted with in 921 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,880 various ways. We may have people that are just simply 922 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,079 doing it because that's what they've chosen to do. So, yeah, 923 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:57,480 we have guides, We have help. We always have help. 924 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,960 And you know, Bashar has often said, which as a 925 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,880 phrase I really like, is that you know you don't 926 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,239 have to ask for more help. He said, You're being 927 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,320 given all the help you can possibly be given what 928 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,440 you need to do is awaken and pay attention to 929 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,119 the help you're already getting. You just have to be 930 00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:19,280 more aware of it. That's what praying is for, and 931 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,880 stuff like that, is just making yourself more grateful for 932 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,960 what you're already receiving because you're giving. You're being given 933 00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:28,199 everything you can possibly be given. Nothing is being withheld 934 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,679 from you. It's wakening to the fact that you are 935 00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:34,320 in a state of appreciation and gratitude for what's already 936 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,119 helping you, and then you can start perceiving it more 937 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,559 clearly by being in that state again, what you put 938 00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:41,519 out is what you get back. 939 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: Very true, very very true. You know, another another question 940 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,000 I have for you, and I'd love to hear Bashard's 941 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,599 point of view in this, you know, and please tell me. 942 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,320 I don't want to answer it, but really, but what 943 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,320 part does religion have in our evolution as a as 944 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,760 a society throughout history, not just now? 945 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the person and what they get 946 00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,599 out of it, really, I mean, okay, anything in physical 947 00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:11,920 reality he calls a permission slip. In other words, it's 948 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,800 some technique, some tool, some objects, some ritual, some situation 949 00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,519 you believe you need to give yourself permission to be 950 00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:23,719 more of who you are. If religion is the way 951 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,280 that works for you, that's the way that works for you. Now. 952 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:33,280 I know, in general, religion generally can be disempowering in 953 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,519 the sense of, well, you need me to tell you 954 00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:38,480 how to relate to God and you don't have that 955 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:42,159 ability yourself, well, which I think is nonsense. But again, 956 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,079 if it's a technique, a tool, a path that works 957 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,559 for you to allow you to know more who you are, 958 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,400 to be a more positive, creative person, go with it 959 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,199 all day long. It's fine, it doesn't matter. But if 960 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,559 you're using it in the negative way to segregate, to separate, 961 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,639 to look down upon on, to feel better than you know, 962 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,760 than others, and stuff like that, I think it's lost 963 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,480 its meaning and it's simply taking the form of the 964 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,519 fear based beliefs that are in the person that is 965 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:13,679 practicing that religion. 966 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,079 Speaker 1: And to piggyback on that, what is Bischard's point of 967 00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:24,559 view on reincarnation and that idea? Because there are billions 968 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:25,280 of people. 969 00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 2: Don't you think I know? I know it? Okay, again, 970 00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:33,239 now we're getting into you know, real deep metaphysics here. 971 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,960 Reincarnation to him is real as an experience, it's not 972 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:41,800 an accurate description of the mechanism. In other words, again, 973 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:46,119 everything exists at once. Time is an illusion. So if 974 00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:50,760 everyone and everything exists at the same time and it's 975 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,320 only separated by this illusion of time, then to him, 976 00:55:55,559 --> 00:56:01,000 the experience of reincarnation is created like this, what we 977 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:04,199 call the past is something that exists right now. What 978 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,239 we call the future is something that exists right now. 979 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,280 We make an energetic connection to someone that exists right 980 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,239 now in what we call the past as a label, 981 00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:21,039 because we need to download experience and information from them 982 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,920 that will help us in this life. In this theme 983 00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:28,800 that we're exploring, we because we're stuck in linear time, 984 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,000 so to speak, stuck, we're focused, we'd be a better word. 985 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:36,119 Because we're focused in linear time. We treat that energetic 986 00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:41,360 connection and download of information as a memory. I used 987 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,159 to be that person. No, that person is that person. 988 00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,400 But you're making a connection to that person and downloading 989 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,199 information and interpreting it as a memory so that it 990 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,239 seems as if you are reincarnated as that person. So 991 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,719 you can have the illusional experience of reincarnate. You can 992 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,599 create the feeling that I've lived before and I will 993 00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:08,760 live again as another person. But since all people exist 994 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,800 at the same time, it's really functioning more like a 995 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:18,159 dynamically interactive internet, where you're exchanging information constantly in the 996 00:57:18,199 --> 00:57:21,880 present to all these other beings. But linearly looking at 997 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,599 it as if while I was this person now and 998 00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:27,280 this person, I'll be that person. So you're using linear 999 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,960 time to create the experience of reincarnation. But all of 1000 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,559 this is happening at the same time. It's multiple simultaneous 1001 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:38,599 incarnations on a higher level, what you might want to 1002 00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:42,559 call the oversoul. We might all be extensions of the 1003 00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:46,599 same higher oversoul. And from that level you can say, well, 1004 00:57:46,719 --> 00:57:49,159 that's my life and my life, and that's my life 1005 00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,800 and that's my life, but only as the higher level, 1006 00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,760 not as the individuated person. Does that make sense? 1007 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,519 Speaker 1: It does. We're definitely getting into the weeds, deep into 1008 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:01,239 the weeds here. 1009 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 2: This is why Bashar preps us over years to understand 1010 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,880 things like parallel realities. Time is an illusion. He really 1011 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,079 can explain the whole mechanism of how this functions. And 1012 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:16,159 again that's one of the things of the difference between 1013 00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:19,800 the definition of an experience and the definition of a 1014 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,079 mechanism that's making the experience happen. 1015 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: And I think you're right when when you're saying the 1016 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,440 Bashar is prepping you these concepts. Even in my own life, 1017 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:32,039 things that I hold as truths now, I thought was 1018 00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:38,000 crazy when I was younger, because I couldn't comprehend these Yeah, yeah, 1019 00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:40,360 how is that possible? How could I ever do this 1020 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,599 in my life? How could I ever do that in 1021 00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,719 my life? These are beliefs that you slowly but once 1022 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,440 the seed is dropped, right, it does grow. Sometimes the 1023 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,119 soil is just a fertile. 1024 00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: True not being water enough, and it's a barren. 1025 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: But other times you do you know now and I 1026 00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:03,920 and again it's only as you get older you look 1027 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,119 back and you go, oh, I was being prepped for. 1028 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,960 I read this book that threw these ideas into my 1029 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,639 head that I never thought of before. 1030 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 2: Right, it's all hours. Although now there are new generations 1031 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,480 coming up that understand these things more quickly, because I 1032 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,480 think they forget less of who they are. They're not 1033 00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:23,519 taught to forget a little and they are so you know. 1034 00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:27,480 And that's another thing that's happening in with Bshard's information too, 1035 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,559 is you know, I've now run into, you know, ten 1036 00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:33,360 year old kids that they can explain exactly what he's saying. 1037 00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,480 They get it. They just get it. Oh, it's exactly 1038 00:59:36,639 --> 00:59:37,760 makes sense to them, you know. 1039 00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:40,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean I have kids as well, 1040 00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:41,960 and you could just see them, like, my god, they're 1041 00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:46,480 so much better prepared for life than I was at 1042 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,760 that age. We'll be right back after a word from 1043 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:58,880 our sponsor and now back to the show. But at 1044 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,199 that but my parents, parents were just didn't have the information. 1045 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,760 The tool sets weren't there in the in the world 1046 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,440 at that time, and the consciousness of the of society 1047 01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:10,599 wasn't there. I mean, and I always use the concept 1048 01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:13,079 of like meditation, like in the seventies you were meditating, 1049 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:17,360 you were crazy, you were nuts. 1050 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 2: And talk about yeah crazy. And channeling in the beginning 1051 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,599 was like what the hell are you talking about? 1052 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: I can only imagine forty years ago. Darryl like, you're like, 1053 01:00:26,679 --> 01:00:28,719 so I'm a channel. I'm sorry, what do you want 1054 01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:30,960 to change the channel? No, no, you're I'm a channel. 1055 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,719 I talked to somebody else and they come through me 1056 01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:35,320 and they're like, sir, this right, this way to the way. 1057 01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:37,719 Just put this white coat on. I know, this leaves 1058 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,480 are a little bit longer, just put them on. 1059 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Right this way. 1060 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,519 Speaker 1: But no, but now, But now the concept of channeling 1061 01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:50,079 is not only more broadly accepted, it's still not widely accepted, 1062 01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:53,480 but broadly accepted. But it's in the it's in the 1063 01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:56,360 vernacular of society. People are like, oh, I was channeling, 1064 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,760 I was channeling this great person to do this or 1065 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,840 so these But these ideas weren't around forty years ago. 1066 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:09,039 So you can see ideas changing without question. 1067 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,039 Speaker 2: Right, because definitions change, so you know. 1068 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: It's it's fantasty. So one question, another question I have 1069 01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:19,920 for you about Bishar. What does he see in the 1070 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,840 coming years for humanity? Is he having he is he 1071 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,960 seeing anything that is he is? He is a positive 1072 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,599 or a negative scenario moment for. 1073 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 2: Again, remember back to what we were saying about, you 1074 01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:34,039 never change the world you're on. You change yourself and 1075 01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:36,400 you go to a version of earth, You shift to 1076 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,880 a version of Earth that is already more reflective. So 1077 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,719 it depends on each individual as to what they will 1078 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,159 experience in the future. He's very loath to make prediction. 1079 01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:52,360 The only the few rare occasions he's made predictions. He's saying, look, 1080 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,199 there's no such thing as a prediction of the future. 1081 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,639 He's saying. What a person is doing when they predict 1082 01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:01,039 is they're sensing the energy that exists in present and 1083 01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:03,559 if that energy has a lot of momentum behind it 1084 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:06,360 and it's unlikely to change, there's a high degree of 1085 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,159 probability it will manifest. However, you have to realize that 1086 01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,119 once a prediction is made, it changes the energy because 1087 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:15,679 now you know about it, and if you don't prefer 1088 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,079 what it's telling you is inevitable, you can actually change that. 1089 01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,760 So that's why the only few times he's ever made predictions, 1090 01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:27,840 he's saying, it's unlikely this momentum is going to change. Therefore, 1091 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,719 I will tell you that this is the highest probability. 1092 01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:36,039 I remember in nineteen ninety eight, it's on record in 1093 01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,000 a recording he said before the end of two thousand 1094 01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,320 and one, there will be a terrorist attack in New York. 1095 01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:45,000 He said, this is unlikely to change, and obviously we 1096 01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:48,920 had nine to eleven. So there are times when he 1097 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,599 can pick up on the highest probability and say this 1098 01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,719 is what the highest probability is, and it's unlikely to change, 1099 01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:57,559 which is the only reason I'm telling you about it. 1100 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,079 But other than that, he doesn't usually want to make predictions, 1101 01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:04,559 especially because again, as I just said, it's up to 1102 01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,159 each individual as to what they're really going to experience 1103 01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,360 in the future if they change themselves. 1104 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,079 Speaker 1: And it's when you say that everyone experiences or shifts 1105 01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:18,400 into another earth, that is one that they experience, regardless 1106 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,320 of whether you believe in parallel earth or any and 1107 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,960 that stuff. That's fine. But in the Great Depression, some 1108 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,159 people were on the street. Other people's made fortunes. During 1109 01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:33,800 two thousand and eight, some people coasted through, other people 1110 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,920 lost everything. Right now, there's people living very different lives. 1111 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,559 People in the Ukraine are living very different lives that 1112 01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:45,199 we're living here. There's different experiences at the same moment 1113 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,639 in time all the time. Everywhere you go, there's always 1114 01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:52,159 a different But if we're experiencing the same event, certain 1115 01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:55,599 people handle it differently or experience it differently than others. 1116 01:03:55,639 --> 01:03:57,679 And it's throughout history that's been the case. 1117 01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:01,039 Speaker 2: Yes, And the idea again is you know, to really 1118 01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:04,400 take this another step further. We're shifting all the time. 1119 01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:07,760 We're shifting right now, We're shifting billions of times per 1120 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,719 second into different parallel versions of Earth. It's just that 1121 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,760 we do it so smoothly we don't realize we're shifting. 1122 01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:19,599 So the idea is, because physical reality is an illusion, 1123 01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:25,480 the very concept of movement actually entails shifting through different 1124 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,159 parallel realities in much the same way that an animated 1125 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,239 film shifts through different frames to create the illusion of 1126 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:37,679 movement on the screen. So even doing this, according to Bishar, 1127 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:42,159 entails having shifted literally through billions of different parallel realities. 1128 01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:45,039 Because this is a reality. This is a reality, This 1129 01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:48,239 is a reality. This is a reality again, just like 1130 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,519 frames on a film strip. And he's saying, it's just 1131 01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,360 happening so fast you don't realize it's happening. You're not 1132 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,760 seeing the flicker going from one frame to another. 1133 01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:59,559 Speaker 1: Well, I've never heard it explain like that before, but I, 1134 01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:02,119 as a don't maker, I completely understand what you're saying now, 1135 01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:07,119 because every frame is a different expression of that scene, 1136 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,360 and only when they're played back to back or the 1137 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,320 shift is when you get the illusion of movement. Movies 1138 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:19,239 video is an illusion of they're just still frames played 1139 01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:20,199 back at a certain frame. 1140 01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:25,119 Speaker 2: Rate, saying physical reality is actually structured that way. That's 1141 01:05:25,199 --> 01:05:28,360 why there are parallel realities because you have an infinite 1142 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,079 number of frames and you can go in any direction. 1143 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,199 So it's a batter of your frequency choosing which frames 1144 01:05:35,199 --> 01:05:39,400 you're experiencing and which frames you're agreeing to experience similar 1145 01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:42,599 to someone else, which allows us to have this conversation. 1146 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,960 We are both agreeing that we will shift through frames 1147 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,159 that allow this conversation to exist, but we're still shifting 1148 01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,519 through frames, and my reality shift is not your reality shift. 1149 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,239 Your reality shift is a different reality. But we're agreeing 1150 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,599 to shift through frames that make it appear as if 1151 01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:01,840 we're sharing the same reality, which we're not. 1152 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: My head's my head's about to mushroom cloud. That's no, 1153 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,719 it's great, it's it's amazing. Darryl, thank you so much. 1154 01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:13,880 I'm gonna ask you last few questions I asked all 1155 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,480 of my guests. You were going to say something go ahead, no, no, no, 1156 01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:21,079 go ahead. What is your definition of a good life. 1157 01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 2: Being true to yourself, being who you really are? 1158 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: How do you define God all. 1159 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,719 Speaker 2: That is everything, nothing is outside of it? 1160 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life. 1161 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,639 Speaker 2: Being yourself and allowing yourself to add to the expansion 1162 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,760 of existence? I mean, it's again, goes back to who 1163 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,599 are you really as a reflection of all that is? 1164 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,960 What is it that makes you you? And how much 1165 01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:55,800 can you really be that you? Can you see through 1166 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,880 the illusion? Can you learn to grow? Can you learn 1167 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,519 who you are more deeply? Can you be more of yourself? 1168 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,679 Can you act on the things that are truly you? 1169 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,039 Which is what passion is all about. Passion is an 1170 01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:11,480 indication of your true life, your true vibration. So it's 1171 01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:14,920 being you, it's knowing yourself and being willing to act 1172 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:15,239 on that. 1173 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: And dere Where can people find out more about you 1174 01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:20,960 the work you're doing with Bishar, your books, your courses, 1175 01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:22,519 your videos, all that kind of stuff. 1176 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,119 Speaker 2: They can go to two different websites. They can go 1177 01:07:25,159 --> 01:07:27,639 to Bishar dot org, b A s h A r 1178 01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,599 dot org or they can go to darryl Anca dot 1179 01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:32,840 com b A R R Y l A n k 1180 01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:36,800 A dot com to find out what's going on with us. 1181 01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have a fantastic YouTube channel. You put 1182 01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:41,440 out videos all the time with Bishar. Is that correct? 1183 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,159 Speaker 2: All sorts of ways to you know, hear what he 1184 01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:48,320 has to say. There's there's literally hundreds of recordings of 1185 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,519 events that Bshar has done, and you know people are 1186 01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:54,840 welcome to explore and decide for themselves whether it's something 1187 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,280 that they are interested in. 1188 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,719 Speaker 1: There it has been a pleasure my friend. Talking to 1189 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,480 is always I can talk to you for days, so 1190 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:07,880 please come back again. Absolutely, I love it, I love talking. 1191 01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:10,000 I love talking to you, my friend, and I again 1192 01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:12,800 thank you for not only coming back, but also for 1193 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,559 all the amazing work you've been doing over these four decades, 1194 01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:18,000 which is impossible because you look twenty five, so I 1195 01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:18,920 don't understand. 1196 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 2: Daney has been very, very good to be my friend. 1197 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,199 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Thank you so much. 1198 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 2: Thanks Alex, take care. 1199 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. 1200 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,760 If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll 1201 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,319 find the show notes for this episode at Next levelsoul 1202 01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:42,479 dot com. Forward slash one for seven and if your 1203 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,439 soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next 1204 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,960 Level Soul TV, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, 1205 01:08:50,199 --> 01:08:55,680 original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and transformative teachings. 1206 01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:59,359 It's a space created to support your awakening. 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