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Speaker 1: Now it's time for tensions that We're running high at

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to Tensions Running High at Penrith

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Panthers Podcast presented by the Western Weekend. This is episode

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sixty six. I'm Troy Dodds joined by Nathan Taylor Hio Nathan.

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On the agenda today, the Panthers said back to Bathurst,

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what's doing with Isaac Tungo? Plus we talk Zach Lomax

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and set restarts. Nathan what away for the Panthers to

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start the season last Friday night in Brisbane.

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Speaker 4: No, it was the perfect way. I mean, I love

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the wins that you just don't see coming.

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Speaker 3: Troy.

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Speaker 4: I think we said last week that with hope Parmith

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would win by two four six points, but I don't

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think we ever predicted a twenty six to nil blowout

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on the premiers' home turf as well ats Uncorp Stadium.

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It's certainly got the weekend off to a very good

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start and puts you in a good mood. Didn't it

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for the whole the whole week?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Certainly did. Penrith were great, Brisbane were terrible, no question

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about that. And I know that, you know, I don't

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think any coach has been under pressure as much as

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Michael McGuire has after winning it. I know he's won

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a competition and he's under pressure because everyone's got this

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theory that it's all going to fall apart like I

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did at South because he trains them too hard.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he just lost his best player and the

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off season two Souths Like.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit strange, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I heard Nathan Cleary actually talking about it on

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the Hello Sport podcast. Was he was basically saying we

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Madge's got that reputation. But how hard do you want

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to work to win? And that's the philosophy and so

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you know, if you if you want to win, then

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you have to work hard and train hard. So but

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he was saying it is the thing that's known that

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Michael maguire is. It's a hard trainer. But you had

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have a great win and it does put the Panthers

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of course in pretty good spot to start the season

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third on the competition ladder because there were some other

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teams who had some big wins over the weekend as well,

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including Penrith's competitors this weekend, the Coronella Sharks. So we

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head back to Bapist on Saturday night, Carrington Park, seven

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point thirty five pm kickoff and look get two sides

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that put on big scores last weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I think what Penrith did was more

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impressive coming up against Brisbane up there at Suncorp Stadium,

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the Premiers. What what Sharks did was great, but they

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were taking on a titan side with a new coach,

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a few new players outside of you know, they are

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outside of home. They were playing in Cronulla, so look

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that that win was good, but I think what Peneth

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did was more impressive.

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Speaker 2: I liked Cronulla. I watched that game in full thought

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that Obviously Braydon Trindle was sort of the star of

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the show, but Nico Heines as well. There's just something

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about Nico Heines this year. Doesn't feel like he's got

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that pressure on him that you know, has followed him

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for the last couple of years, like his Nico you know,

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is he even the Sharks number seven let alone. Yeah,

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obviously all the drama he had when he was sort

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of dropped from the new South Wales team, but he's

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pretty much been not talked about apart from getting engaged.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's obviously early days to Troy. I mean,

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you know, we saw a great game from from the

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Sharks the other day, but we just we just don't

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know what they're going to toss up, just like the

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the Broncos, where you know, people are writing off the Broncos,

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or maybe not everyone, but there's been a few people

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saying they might not make the eight. But you know,

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it's one game, like you you just don't know how

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the season's going to play out until you know at

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least two months in right.

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Speaker 3: Like Penrith were terrible for the first two.

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Speaker 4: Months of the season last year, and we're with a

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whisker of making the Grand finally.

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Speaker 3: You just don't know yet. Still early.

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Speaker 2: These sides have been pretty evenly split since the NRL

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has formed in nineteen ninety eight. The Sharks have won

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twenty three of the forty six games, Penrith twenty two

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and they've drawn one. Of course, the last time they met,

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all the way back in Las Vegas, Yeah and Stadium

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in March last year, the Panthers won twenty eight to

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twenty two. Penry thin control for most of that game,

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and then of course the Shafts came back late. And

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before that it was the Prelim Final two thousand and four,

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the Panthers twenty six six winners. I remember that the

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day because I got food poisoning that night, did you really, Yes, yes,

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I did. Before the prelim You might even remember as

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part of our Grand Final week coverage, I was off

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on the Monday, still off. I came in I think

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on the Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's stuck with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember that very very well, because you know,

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don't mind telling everyone that when I woke up in

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the morning, I thought, gee, I didn't think I had

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that much to drink, but I thought I thought I

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was hungover because I was throwing up. And I'm like,

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this is a little bit unusual ten years ago, a

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little bit unusual. And yes, turned out that it was

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food poisoning, and about three or four others in our

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group also got it.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, well that's not like good memories. But obviously

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Peneth had had a really good record of the Sharks

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in recent years. There was a period there, probably about

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ten fifteen years ago and when the Sharks were very

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dominant and you know that Penrith couldn't beat them. But

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I think in recent years we've had their number. We've

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had to put some big score lines on them too

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in the past, in this synisty year at least. So

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it's gonna be a good game, I think. I think

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it's these some juicy matchups.

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Speaker 3: In the first few rounds for the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: This is another one, and juicy individual matchups as well,

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Like you look at say Dylan Edwards up against William Kennedy.

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Eddie had a great game last weekend. It was silenced

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a lot of critics, yes, even up and probably made

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Jackson Edgar think that that maybe he's still a few

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years still a while. Yeah, it's pretty good, and William

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Kennedy was great as well. But then when you go

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through and you see, you know, like you know Cleary

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versus Heins as obvious, but up front you've got you know,

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Adam Fanila Blake and mosesle Oda going up against each other,

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Lindsay Smith and Thomas Hazelton, and so you know it's

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actually it's actually a pretty decent matchup. I think Penrith's

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probably got the class factor ahead of them, but you know,

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had an but look yet are going to be a

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very close game?

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Speaker 4: Does there's the Bathist thing warrior you will be and

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it's been it's been a rough trot in Bathurst. I'm

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not sure if we've got the stats, but I reckon

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Penoff have lost more than they've won there in recent

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years potentially, or it could be even I'm not sure.

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It just feels like, I know they got flogged there

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last year by Newcastle and fell to the bottom of

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the table, but it's been a mixed bag in Carrington Park.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that game last year. That was probably

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the That was the low point, wasn't it was?

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Speaker 3: They still talk about it the players.

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Speaker 4: Is that as the point where they thought, no, we

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need to get our ship together so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yep, no doubt about that. To answer your question Carrington Park,

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fourteen appearances at Carrington Park, it's actually eight wins, five

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losses and only five losses, yes, and a draw. So

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now I do need to just clarify though that two

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of the wins are actually one in nineteen eighty five

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in nineteen ninety because Penrith actually probably games in currying

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back back then part of this current deal, this current

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deal we might actually you know, go back in time

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is part of the current deal. We actually played Cronulla

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the first time in twenty fourteen. The Sharks won that

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eighteen sixteen, and then we went through that little period

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of wins in fifteen sixteen seventeen we beat the Gold

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Coast forty nil. Was that that one too? We beat

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Canberra nineteen eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Isn't the miracle in Bathist?

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the miracle in Bathist That was the next year.

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So the nineteen eighteen I watched that one from the

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New York The Australian Bar in New York City Live

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nineteen eighteen. Then the next year was the miracle in

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bathist twenty four to twenty. Then too back to back losses,

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pretty disappointing ones against the Cowboys in twenty eighteen and

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then against Melbourne that was the coldest I've ever been

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in a rugby league game.

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Speaker 3: And that was the bad one, wasn't it, thirty two

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to two.

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Speaker 2: Then backed it up with a couple of wins twenty

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eight sixteen over Manly, thirty eight twenty over Newcastle, but

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then lost twelve eight to the Tigers in that yeah,

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wet nine in twenty twenty three. That was that was

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a rough one, actually one it in. I beat the

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Tigers in twenty twenty four but not convincingly twenty two

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to six, and then lost to Newcastle last year. So

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it's pretty evenly split recently. But yes, I do get

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what you're saying that it hasn't It hasn't been like

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this fortress or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: No, Definitely nights and dumb.

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Speaker 4: They seem to play it at all different times of

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the year too, Like it was May last year, a

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day game in May, like weather, it was cooling down

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and now they're playing a night game in March.

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Speaker 3: It's it's funny, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, because when this concept started in yeah, in

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twenty four the game was actually in July, had the

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bast Winter Wow and that game against Melbourne, as I said,

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it was the coldest I have been at the footy.

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Let me tell you that was actually, believe it or not,

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that was in March. So I don't I don't know

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what is going on there on that change, but let

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me tell you it was absolutely freezing.

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Speaker 4: And do you remember we went to a game there

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one I think it was the moment in the Cowboys

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clash the year prior. And we're in like a fancy

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box or something for it, like that tent, that marquee

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that they put.

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Speaker 2: Up, fancy stretcher. Yes, the corporate tent.

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Speaker 3: The corporate got flogged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look at some and look there's been some disappointing

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trips to Bathist. As someone who's gone there a lot,

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I think I've only seen maybe two wins.

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Speaker 3: It's a long way to go to lose.

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Speaker 2: All right, But how are we what are we thinking?

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In this one? There is no Leam Martin and Liam

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Henry still.

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Speaker 3: So what happened there?

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Speaker 4: So there were reports yesterday is suggesting that Liam Martin

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would would make a comeback. Even Nathan clearly spoke last

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night one hundred forty saying he was looking good for

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a comeback. But Ivan's not even named him on an

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extended or anything.

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Speaker 2: Not neither of them are named on the extended bench.

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So yeah, clearly just maybe giving them that one more

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week and maybe that's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 4: And it's a shame for those guys because they are

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country guys, especially Liam Henry like he's he's from that

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Bathist area, he's out that way, so it would have

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been really disappointing to see him miss that game, which

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was in his final game and in Bathist.

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Speaker 3: He's going to Perth next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, and you've got I guess we're playing

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next Friday night. It's not that much of a big turnaround,

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but maybe just the Bathist factor playing on a regional grounds.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll be there like doing clinics and stuff

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them in Bathist folks to sign autographs.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just not playing all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, I'm timming Penrith by about four or six

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points in this and I actually think the lead's going

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to change hand a couple of times. Yeah, game, but

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I think the Panthers get home.

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Speaker 4: Look, before we get the Penrith that we got last week,

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I can see Penrith, you know, also putting plenty of

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points on the Sharks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Sharks were great, but their opposition was

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you know, you can't compare them to what Penrith were

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up against against the Broncos. So I'm tipping Penrith to

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win maybe about twelve points.

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Speaker 2: All right, and that's a big margin for you.

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Speaker 4: They gave me a lot of confidence last I didn't

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expect that.

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Speaker 3: That was a great, great performance.

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Speaker 2: All right. Now, one player who is in the side

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but is sitting in jersey number eighteen is Isyazac Tanga

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premiership winner of course, but he wasn't there last week.

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He was name and then Tom Jenkins came into the side.

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He's not there again. Ivan was a little bit cryptic,

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very good post game. He said that he was dealing

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with some issues outside of his control. I think that

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was the Yeah. And then we've seen in the papers

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this week they're talking about personal personal like that, so

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I don't know if we heard about anything about what's

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going on here.

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Speaker 4: It's such a mystery, Troy, because my uncle Peter he

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actually broke the news on his socials earlier last week

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saying he got mail that Isaac Tago may not play

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and we're coming an ring whether to put it out

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on because you know, sometimes you get male for you know,

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you can't trust everything you get.

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Speaker 3: But we're like, let's go with it.

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Speaker 4: We've got a second source to confirm it. And yeah,

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it turns out when when the team list came out,

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he was dropped to the bench six man bench now,

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so there's a chance he could come on and then

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he just doesn't get a run. And it would have

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been his one hundredth game two, so he's sitting at

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nineteen ninety nine, so you know, obviously Panthers like to

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celebrate milestone matches. There would have been if he was playing,

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there would have been a jersey presentation and all that

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sort of thing. So that was that never happened. But yeah,

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what I haven't said was unusual. He probably it's probably

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going to be very difficult to find out what they mean. Obviously,

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other journals have chased it all they can get from

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the club is personal reasons, personal issues.

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Speaker 3: But he's he's still in the mix. It hasn't been

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shunned completely.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's also important to note he played

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so now, whether that, whether whatever his personal issues are disrupting,

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he's training to the point where you know he can't

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play first grade. This is obviously certain standards there. Maybe

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that's the case, but it's not something that's keeping him out.

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He's not. He hasn't taken leave or anything like that

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from the club. From the personal issue. He's still playing.

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He played in the in Cup. So yeah, look, it's

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a it's a weird situation. Now. Look, there's no question

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that there has been a couple of little rumors though

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around Isaac Tango's future at Penrith, and we'll talk about

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Zachlomax later. But one of the rumors that did the

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rounds this week, I think this was people just trying

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to put two and two together, hopefully, was that that

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Paris was somehow going for Lomacs so that we're going

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to get rid of Isaac, and that was all happening.

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I don't really think that was ever in the mix,

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but combined with whatever these personal issues, are those rumors

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have been around for a little while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. And we know we know Isaac. You know,

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he's had a pretty good time at Penrith, but there

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has been a little few little things. He's never really

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got into any trouble or anything like that off the field.

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But we actually really don't know. And it's it's weird

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to speculate because I hope it, you know, it might

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never come out.

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Speaker 3: What what is, what the issue was, what the personal

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problem was.

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Speaker 4: But you know, who knows. The club could be covering

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up something. It could be, you know, it could be

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something yeah, deeply personal that they don't want us to know.

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But then why is he why is he still playing

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rugby league? Yeah, they're quite happy to out at Saint

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Mary's the next day off and he was up in Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: And when we say covering up, we're talking more protecting,

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protecting whatever, protect whatever issue he may be dealing with. Yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, you know, it's these things you

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just you just don't know. And Ivan's been cryptic in

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my come out.

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Speaker 2: It might not And Penrith are I'm sure they think

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it's a good thing. Probably fans don't, but Penrith are

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pretty protective of these situations when they arise in terms

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of not really revealing stuff about yeah, players might be

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dealing with.

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Speaker 4: I just remind like, this has not nothing to do

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with it. But when a few years ago when the

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tailor may stuff came up and he sort of started

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disappearing from teams and eventually it came out he was

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he was in trouble and not suggesting that that's the

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same Veriazac at all could be complaining completely different, but

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eventually you find out what the real reason is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. What's probably interesting in rugby league

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is that in any other industry or any even a

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section of rugby league, like look at Joel Kine of

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course SCN. He's just recently announced that he's stepping down

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from his sen show while he deals with some mental

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health struggle. Yes, you normally kind of go well as

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an individual, we kind of have to come out and

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explain to your your fans or listeners or whatever. You know,

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you normally say you can be cryptic, but you normally say, hey,

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I'm stealing with some stuff. But the thing about rugby

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league players is that that never really happens. You know,

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it's either very rarely the players go out and say

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something and then the club's obviously you are trying to

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you know, player welfare and whatever else and they don't

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want the headline. So it's interesting because they're anywhere else.

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You're kind of forced, you know, someone's broken their silence

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and made a statement and things like that. Like, yeah,

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it's interesting, you know because even I was just you know,

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just going back to the Joel Caine one, Like I

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don't think the SCN Drive show is big enough that

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it would have got much attention if Joel just said

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he was on leave for a couple of mon Yes,

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but you know, there's there feels like there's an obligation

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when you're in a opposition to say something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, Look, I hope I ISAC's okay. I mean,

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he's obviously okay enough and well enough to play football.

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Apparently he played a fairly okay game on the weekend

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with the Cup team.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and he's.

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Speaker 4: Obviously still in the mix. There's a chance if if

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a player goes down next week on on Saturday against

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the Sharks, that he'll be thrust in. That'll be his

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hundredth games. So yeah, maybe he's maybe his preparation, like

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I haven't said, was compromise somehow.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. You could have got sick. There could be

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an illness I'm not sure where he's not just up

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to the standard yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll wait and see what happens there. Now,

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that wasn't That wasn't the biggest mystery of the weekend though,

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because the Panthers new South Wales Cup mystery still going on,

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still going on with announceter team this afternoon. It's actually

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a very good team that the coach mystery is has

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named the likes of. Look at this new South Wales

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Cup team. I haven't think about this. This is Jackson

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Edgar at full back. There's obviously the big star of

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the future, Jesse McLean on one wing, jarrah Lydiard on

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the other, Si Fanua and Patrick moy mooy. In the

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centers you got Kean Skips who was brilliant, the brilliance

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and Jack Cole in the hearts. Jack Cole's played plenty

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of first grade lun Pataha and Tom I'm going to

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call him Tom a all but you've told me it's

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not a Tom Arla, you know. In the in the

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front row, you know, like, that's a that's a good

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looking team, Harry Armstrong, Zack Clark and the side.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: I only just beat the Bear on the weekend. I

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was confused by that minutes or something.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's odd, but look, we still don't

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know the Cup coaches. And I got some mail this

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morning from someone that's close with someone in the Cup

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system and they said to me, because I'm like, the

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Panthers seemed to be sworn to secrecy, and they said,

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no one has sworn to secrecy or anything, but there's

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a reason why they can't announce it until this week.

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So apparently an announcement is coming. Apparently they said it

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all makes sense once it's announced. So which obviously the

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rumor that we've all been going by is Matt Eisenhooth. Now,

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is there a Matt Eisenhooth retirement? Has that been approved

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officially by the NRL medically retired or something? We heard

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there might be some issues there with an injury that

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Eisenheath might retire. He hasn't appeared any trials, he doesn't

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train with the team anymore. He was at the Cup

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game on Saturday with a clipboard in the coaches box.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many more clues do you want?

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Speaker 4: We had spies at the game time, we had people,

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We had people there checking for us. So look, they're

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all Asame's point to ISO, but who knows who knows

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what they're up to.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't be the only thing that makes sense to

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me in the sense that they'll say, oh, there was

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this technicality. You know, the NRL was fully aware of

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the situation, but they wouldn't give us permission to name

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him as our coach when they haven't even approved his

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medical retirement like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeahs sense.

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Speaker 2: There's some sense in that, but it's still just.

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Speaker 4: They can't be so tight lipped, like relatives of people

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that are working at the club are refusing to tell

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their fellow relatives what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Like this is a really big secret over at Panthers's.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 2: So you're telling me that spotted with a clipboard, an

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old fashioned clipboard.

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Speaker 4: I've got a photo of him in the coach's box. Okay,

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but apparently we don't have a coach.

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Speaker 2: I thought we'd have iPads at least at Samsung on

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board as a sponsor.

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Speaker 3: Fashion clip where they use them in the basketball when

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the timeouts. It must be still still very important.

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loving that we're gonna have to borrow her car. Now try.

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Speaker 4: I know you said you were't going to talk any

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more about the whole stadium saga. Now that you had,

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you say, in your biget aitory in the paper last week,

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your first double page column ever. Yes, but can I

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just ask you the reaction to it all, because it

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certainly blew up. We had the premier out here last week,

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you know, defending it and all that. But what's been

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the reaction since that that editorial dropped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, firstly, I'll just say I think it was on

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my Facebook or Twitter, I said, look, I'm not going

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to this is it. I'm not going to talk about

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it anymore. And what I meant by that putting a

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gag your gagging. What I meant by that is, look,

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this is not something we can change or stop like.

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It's happening. It's getting built. I saw just today the

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full frame of the Western stand is it's gone in

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00:20:28,039 --> 00:20:31,400
now obvious. So nothing is changing. And so I don't

475
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,480
want to, you know, flog a dead horse and just

476
00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:36,119
keep going on about this for the next year, because

477
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,440
I completely get it's happening, it's done, whatever else. But

478
00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,319
I do think that, you know, what was said last

479
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,200
week needed to be said. I was actually surprised that

480
00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:49,200
the vast majority of the reaction was positive. Towards you. Obviously, yes,

481
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,000
because I expected it probably to be about seventy thirty.

482
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,079
I expected that most people would probably agree, but I

483
00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:57,319
did expect a few more narks that pop up and

484
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,759
have a crack. But there was actually only in fact

485
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,359
in any private messages, and often from that column that

486
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,119
I write every week, I do get some private messages

487
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,400
from people who may be on the periphery of the

488
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,400
subject and might say, hey, like, here's a little bit

489
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,279
of context to that, or here's an alternate view, and

490
00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:16,759
that's fine. I've got nothing of that ilk this time around.

491
00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:20,240
It was only people supportive or providing even more information.

492
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,519
Certainly some people in high positions at Panthers who who

493
00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:29,640
I think agreed. Certainly plenty of people in the Liberal Party.

494
00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:33,160
I don't expect that Labor was very quiet obviously, apart

495
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,319
from yes. Chrismns came out to Penrith on Friday, and

496
00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:39,319
he was expecting, I think very much that he was

497
00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,200
going to get asked about the stadium, and our journalist

498
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,480
Emily Chap obviously hit him up with some tough questions

499
00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:48,880
in regards to that, and I was probably surprised that

500
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,160
he doubled down as much as he did. I I'm

501
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,400
surprised that given that, you know, it's not only my call,

502
00:21:57,559 --> 00:21:59,880
like they would know, Labor would know what the reaction

503
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,680
to this stadium is from the moment that roof started

504
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,680
getting built, really but even before then. So I'm surprised

505
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,759
they've continue to double down with Steve Camp other sportsmanister

506
00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:14,160
continuing to call it world class. Chris Min said, it'll

507
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,759
be a knockout.

508
00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: It's a knockout.

509
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: It's going to what a stadium it'll be. And I

510
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,200
just I'm surprised because I think that you could actually

511
00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,880
if I'm Labor, I'm probably hedging my bets right now

512
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,839
and I'm saying, oh, look, you know, obviously would we

513
00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:29,039
have wanted to build an eight hundred million still a stadium,

514
00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:31,799
of course, but the budget restraints didn't allow us to.

515
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,000
So we've built this. We think it's a great facility,

516
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,440
you know, full stop.

517
00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: And he kept changing his you know, he used that

518
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,599
the suburban stadium term a lot. This is what a

519
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,480
suburban stadium looks like, so he was sort of not

520
00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,160
saying the world class thing anymore. Who's more going down, Well,

521
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720
it's a suburban stadium and that's this is what they

522
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:50,960
look like, similar.

523
00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:52,759
Speaker 3: To like a shark Park or a light Heart. They're

524
00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,640
suburban stadiums, so this is what you're getting.

525
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,079
Speaker 2: Look, the majority of the comments obviously on the story

526
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,039
from fan from readers, you know, pretty damning of the

527
00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,640
of the stadium and the concept. There was a few

528
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,799
naksho through in a few few comments. I did see

529
00:23:09,839 --> 00:23:14,559
the former Lindsay MP Emma Hassa had her say. She commented,

530
00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:17,400
she certainly did I send her a message after that

531
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,519
because I felt that I deserved a little bit of

532
00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,359
right of reply there. Did she criticize you or the

533
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,359
stadium myself? So she was critical. Of course, she claimed

534
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,359
that I hobbed not be in corporate seating, so it's

535
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,160
not true true. And then also basically throughout the line,

536
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,359
which a lot of people do, that there's much bigger

537
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,799
issues to talk about than this, And that always frustrates

538
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:42,839
me when people say that, because of course there are,

539
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,920
and I write about them, you know, in a lot

540
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,160
of other weeks. But to suggest that is almost like

541
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:51,319
saying to any politician, oh, excuse me, why are you

542
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,680
out handing out this award today. There's much bigger issues

543
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,799
you should be you know, getting an update on Iran.

544
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,039
Like like, we all deal with stuff that is in

545
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,200
a different scale of different things. That's not to say

546
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,839
that the stadium isn't an important investment in the community

547
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:06,160
that we need to talk about and we need to

548
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,400
hold governments to account wherever they're spending it. So I

549
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,920
do find that allt a bit bizarre. But yeah, she

550
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:12,880
I sent her a message, but she hasn't replied. But

551
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:16,519
I thought it was fair enough to at least respond

552
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,480
to the corporate thing, because a lot of people weirdly

553
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:19,279
say that about me.

554
00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they think, well, if a corporate all they

555
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,079
think we're in the media box just enjoying the free

556
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,440
sandwiches and KFC that they deliver. But no, we've you know,

557
00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:30,680
you and I have been Panthers members season ticket holders

558
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,519
for I've been fifteen years sitting in a seat paying

559
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:36,920
the four hundred and five hundred dollars whatever it is now,

560
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,400
and I still have a media pass, but I choose

561
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,559
to sit in a seat with the fans. But some

562
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,640
people obviously don't realize that, so it's good to remind them.

563
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and look ye at the end of the day,

564
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359
you know it's getting built. I do think there will

565
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,640
be a lot of people that have a better experience. Sure,

566
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,839
but I think that again, as we said last week,

567
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,440
we won't go on about it, but I just don't

568
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,759
think that it's its value for money or where we

569
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,640
sh have landed. And there's two elements of what I

570
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,319
wrote last week that have come to the fore and

571
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,519
a lot of comments. The first one is about the Hills.

572
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:10,599
I said last week that I think that the support

573
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,359
and love for the Hills was a little overstated. People

574
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,880
have reminded me that there was some survey that apparently

575
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,960
specifically asked that question should we get now if you

576
00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:23,960
ask if you ask a question like that, I can

577
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:25,559
tell you what the answer is going to be before

578
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:28,680
you even get hit send on the survey, Like it's

579
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,599
a loaded question, you know. So I find that interesting

580
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,640
because it's.

581
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: I do remember that survey going, yeah, it would have

582
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,680
been a few years ago now, and they did ask

583
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:40,440
what what do you want to see in a new stadium?

584
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,079
Would you like to see the Hills kept? And I

585
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,759
presume a lot of people probably said yes, yes.

586
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:48,319
Speaker 2: But the thing is, we don't even know if the

587
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:52,359
people being asked even sat on the hill. No. Like

588
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,519
I find now looking back on it, I'm like, this

589
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,680
is a bit weird. This is a loaded question like

590
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:59,200
this is you know, it's just like saying, well, do

591
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,160
you want an ice cream been parked out the stadium?

592
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,920
Like most people are going to say yes, even if

593
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,920
in reality they shouldn't be having ice cream in the

594
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,400
middle of the wind like it, you know what I mean,

595
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720
It's it's a weird thing. And the other one was

596
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,160
a few people brought this up to me about the

597
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,799
Eastern stand and the fact that there is no lift, yes,

598
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:15,640
and that there are a lot of sort of older

599
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,240
members in that Eastern stand as well. A lot of

600
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,960
course the older members are in the west, but in

601
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,279
the Eastern stand who are just not going to be

602
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:23,519
able to make that climbate.

603
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 4: Because obviously the old stadium had a lift and will

604
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,319
take you up to the corporate boxes, but then you

605
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,519
can make your way down to the to the seating

606
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:32,799
from there. So I mean, I don't I mean, obviously

607
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:34,440
they haven't designed one yet.

608
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Or no, one really possible with that the way it is,

609
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,640
because it's all kind of one big raake.

610
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: Well yeah, of course, but it's just yeah.

611
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look, I was speaking to someone today

612
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:50,279
who isn't Panthers, So I won't mention their name, but

613
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,720
I rementioned my theory that geez like you could have

614
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,599
just given Panthers. You know, you could have said, you

615
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,319
know what, people of New South Wales, if we give

616
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,559
you three hundred and nine million, Yes, there's a benefit

617
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,079
to the people in New South Wales because we're going

618
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,480
to take ownership of it and run it. But we

619
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:09,240
just don't think the value for money's there. So what

620
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,519
we're going to do is we are going to give

621
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,240
Panthers one hundred and fifty million dollars, you know, because

622
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:17,279
we believe in sport in Western Sydney and we expect

623
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:20,960
Panthers to responsibly refurbish the western part of the ground

624
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,160
completely refurbished the west. And as this person said to me,

625
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,519
they said, you know, given what you've said about the capacity,

626
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,240
you could have actually had more corporate because you could

627
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,319
have kept the eastern stand boxes and then you would

628
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,519
have still had the new facilities on the west. And

629
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,720
you know, you could have actually had more because we're

630
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,119
not actually losing like we're not actually gaining that many

631
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:46,640
general public seats. But anyway, that's not all for the past.

632
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,359
Now something else for the past is Zach Lomax's rugby

633
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,559
league career. He's now in rugby union. The one question

634
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:55,599
I wanted to ask about Zach Lomax because something it's

635
00:27:55,599 --> 00:28:00,000
not really a penwith story. Tell me if I'm being cruel,

636
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,960
But I don't care that zachlo Max is not playing

637
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,920
rugby league like he's a great player. Don't get me wrong.

638
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:09,720
I still remember him kicking that goal on the sideline

639
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,640
in Origin, that really close game. He kicked a goal

640
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,200
and the pouring roth he was raining. I remember that.

641
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:17,920
But other than that, I remember him kicking up a

642
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,839
stink because he didn't want to play wing at the Dragons,

643
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:21,519
went for the less money to the Eels, where he

644
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:25,920
played wing, and then wanted to go to R three sixty.

645
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:30,359
Then he wanted to go to Melbourne. Then he signs

646
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,160
with the Western Force to live out his dream of

647
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,880
playing for the Wallabies. His dream of playing for the Wallabies.

648
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,599
He wanted to play for Melbourne five minutes ago. I

649
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,559
just I don't really care. There's people saying that this

650
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,160
is a big problem for rugby league. It's who cares.

651
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look he's yeah, as you said before, he is

652
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,240
a really talented player and probably one of the best

653
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,799
of his position. But he's just not a very likable guy.

654
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:55,400
And I don't think he has been like great ye

655
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,799
a great player like the Eels you know, had a

656
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:59,640
good one on their hands there for that one year.

657
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,119
But yeah, he just he's just yeah, he's very contradicting

658
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,279
with everything he says. The one memory you mentioned him

659
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,400
kicking a goal in State of Origin, I remember him

660
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,200
missing a goal in last year's State of Origin and

661
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:11,079
losing us the game.

662
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: We could stories with that.

663
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,519
Speaker 4: So look as for him leaving, I don't really care.

664
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:17,960
He didn't really mean too much to me.

665
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: Anyway.

666
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: Wingers come and go, as we know. You know, so

667
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,119
many wingers have gone to rugby in the past and

668
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,359
they always find their way back.

669
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: That's still pretty young.

670
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,279
Speaker 4: So if he does want to come back to rugby

671
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:30,240
league when he's being is over, I'm sure he will.

672
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: He probably will. I dare say, they always come back.

673
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,559
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's interesting, There's two things about this

674
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,680
for me. Number One, what does it say about the

675
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,039
state of rugby union that most of these players basically

676
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,119
just walk up starts to the Wallabies? Why?

677
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they pretty much all play what does that.

678
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,039
Speaker 2: Say about rugby union in Australia that you could just

679
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,119
switch go? Oh yeah, just walk up and I'm in

680
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:54,720
the Wallabies. And the second point is that I don't.

681
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,640
I just don't know why there's this such intense focus.

682
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Maybe it was because there's a court battle as well,

683
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440
but spear that a lot of the All three sixties

684
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,359
and whatever talking about that. Oh we've got to stop

685
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,279
the these players, you know, switching codes. It barely happens,

686
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,519
maybe a couple of players a year, and there's been

687
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:13,880
many bigger players that have gone to rugby unit. Has

688
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,599
it ever had that much? Has ever really had a

689
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,759
detrimental impact on rugby league? Any player who's left. This

690
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:22,759
is not a Nathan Cleary or a Mitch Moses or

691
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,519
like this is not a big name.

692
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: Leaving or Andrew John's back in the day he was

693
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,720
obviously Kylie coveted and he turned his back on them too.

694
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not a this is not a big story.

695
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,839
Speaker 4: I actually don't think anything clear ever goes to play

696
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:36,960
for the wallerb His now, no on that you hear

697
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,000
did you hear him on one hundred percent footy yesterday?

698
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: I didn't hear him one hundred percent footy. But I

699
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,400
did hear him on the Hallow Sport podcast, so it

700
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,920
pretty much sounded like, yeah, look maybe in ten years,

701
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,480
like you know what I mean, it's very much like

702
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,039
I wouldn't see this in my near future.

703
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah no, And he was even different, one hundred percent.

704
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:53,599
He was just it just didn't sound like it was

705
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,799
the journey for him. He didn't even tease that because

706
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,079
they were talking about with Zach Clomax's comments in his

707
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,359
in his media ease said, and Nathan was like, okay.

708
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Whatever, did we get an update on his kitchen at all?

709
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:04,720
Was that? Oh?

710
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,079
Speaker 4: Yes, he had the insurance company, we're out yesterday assessing

711
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,599
his kitchen. So it's in the process at the moment

712
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,559
of getting repaired. But apparently it was quite a scare

713
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:14,960
for everyone.

714
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: Well it would have been, according to the Daily Mail

715
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,519
and Near Death Experience.

716
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,119
Speaker 4: I think Ivan Ivan actually larned Nathan to it becausef

717
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:22,400
you've seen your kitchen, it's fallen, it's caved in, he said,

718
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,079
it's carved in.

719
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: How would how did that happen? How did?

720
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,519
Speaker 4: I don't think Nathan was home at the time, And

721
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,519
I think one of Nathan's friends must live with him

722
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:35,599
or something like that and must have alerted Ivan or

723
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,160
someone to it and then Nathan's found out that way.

724
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,759
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Just talking of Nathan by the

725
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:46,279
way on the interview with Hello Sport. Yeah, look, it

726
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:47,839
was very clear, and I don't know if it was

727
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,759
mentioned one hundred percent footy if anyone thinks they're getting

728
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,400
a Nathan Cleary signature and a contract.

729
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,039
Speaker 3: Anytime soon, they ate, even Penrith.

730
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Even Penrith, Yeah, he was very adamant that he feels

731
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,279
the end of twenty twenty seven is a long time away.

732
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: He keeps saying it it's not.

733
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't think he's he's all interested in

734
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,319
talking negotiations or anything like that. I suspect a lot

735
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,359
of that is personal. A lot of that is going

736
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400
to be two years down the road on a relationship

737
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,759
with Mary Fowler. Yeah, and you know, it's a decision

738
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:20,599
that we're probably going to make together at that time,

739
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
you know, do we want to be still still doing

740
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,480
this long distance thing.

741
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,319
Speaker 4: So it sounds like it's highly unlikely that that he

742
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,400
does resign before the end of this year, before November one.

743
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: Which means he hits the open market, and this is

744
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,240
where this is the only place I say where Penrith

745
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,400
have an advantage here is I just can't see him

746
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,960
going to another what's the difference? Yeah, exactly, and why

747
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,680
tarnish not your reputation, but why Like you can have

748
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,599
the one club player situation, he can have every Penrith

749
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,599
record probably for the next fifty.

750
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: Years by the time, Yeah, for sure.

751
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: And I just think that we're like, why you know,

752
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,640
to do what? Like where you're going?

753
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: You're going to Manly and he's not going to be

754
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,920
in anymore. That's I think that's that's done and dusted.

755
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: So it's either it doesn't sound like he's interested in

756
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,440
rugby either, so it could be a super league stint.

757
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,799
Speaker 3: Well, he might just quit all together and just maybe

758
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:13,839
follow follow Mary around wherever she is.

759
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,599
Speaker 2: Who knows, you know, I actually think it's I think

760
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,839
it's more likely Ivan goes to another club. And I

761
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,720
only say this because I just feel that like, as

762
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,160
a coach, maybe you do look for other challenges. But

763
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,039
does he maybe not?

764
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: He was going to quit Penrith a few years ago

765
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,319
because you'd had.

766
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,759
Speaker 2: Enough, Like he doesn't have a rebuilding him.

767
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: Does he want to breathe? That's what I mean, does

768
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,200
he want to rebuild somewhere.

769
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. The rumor that went around last week,

770
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
the time that Manly had sounded out and clear he

771
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:44,799
was interesting because you know he's as at all the

772
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:45,400
Beaches guy.

773
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: So I used to play for Manly, and.

774
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,279
Speaker 2: Whether Anthony Siebold survives his whole contract, I've got no idea.

775
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: But I just don't know why you want to coach me,

776
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,039
and I think nothing excites me about that.

777
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: I think what we have talked about before, and that's

778
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,039
important for everyone to know in the worrisome about the Clearies,

779
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:04,400
is it as much as they have done so much

780
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,240
for Penrith, as much as they have embraced Penrith as

781
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,159
their home, they're not Penrith people like they came obviously,

782
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,760
you know, Nathan sort of grew up in New Zealand

783
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,159
and whatnot before he finished his schooling here Ivans from

784
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,599
the Northern Beaches in terms of his playing day.

785
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: So, but Nathan would consider himself a Penrith person.

786
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: I agree. Now, I agree, But I guess what I'm

787
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,280
saying is it's not it's not stupid to consider that

788
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,440
they would leave Penrith, you know, like you know you

789
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,639
would never have thought. Yeah, there's certain players like you're

790
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,480
never going to see the Travoi which is playing anywhere

791
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,639
but manly, you know, but I probably could see Nathan

792
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,920
playing somewhere else in theory. I don't think he will.

793
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,159
But I'm just saying that they're not. These guys Nathan

794
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:47,679
and Ivan are not you know, born and bred at

795
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:51,280
the Pean Hospital. Yeah, and in fact that's that's the

796
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,880
case for a lot of key Penrith people, Matt Cameron,

797
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,039
you know, they're not necessarily that that loyalty factor is there,

798
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,880
I think from you know, we've done so much and

799
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,960
achieved so much here. But whether it's there to keep

800
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,719
you here when other opportunities come up that may be

801
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,880
more lucrative, I'm not sure.

802
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: And we saw Brad Fitler leave Penrith back in the day.

803
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,519
Of course, Penrith boy, Greg Alexander.

804
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,039
Speaker 2: Nothing should surprise you in rugby league, right, nothing should

805
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:19,440
surprise you now lasting before we do prices right, set

806
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:23,719
restarts Now, we saw all the obviously the rule change

807
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,079
come in over the summer period where basically there's you know,

808
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,760
much more of the field now you can get set restarts.

809
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,960
Some people were winging over the weekend about the blowout

810
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,039
score lines. It's too early to sort of say, or

811
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:35,559
what's the what.

812
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's too early to say.

813
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,639
Speaker 4: I mean, whenever they tweak some rules, we always see

814
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:43,840
blow out score lines. We saw it a few years ago.

815
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,599
I remember when they first brought in those new rules,

816
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,559
and well, geez ey, things settled down, and I just

817
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,760
feel like teams take a bit more time to adjust

818
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,639
than some other teams. But I don't know, it didn't

819
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,800
really bother me the whole new set restart rules that

820
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,079
have come in the extended parts of the field that

821
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:01,159
it's now included in.

822
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: The only thing that bothers me about set restarts still

823
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:08,840
is that I feel that there are more set restarts

824
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,840
and penalties combined now than.

825
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: We had just blowing penalties.

826
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: We're just blowing penalties because referees just go, ah, it's

827
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,239
just easier to, of course, to give a set restart,

828
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,920
you know, do it three times. You're not going to

829
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,760
Previously you wouldn't have blown three penalties. That's my only frustration.

830
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,840
I think that refs are too like trigger happy on

831
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,840
set restarts. And the other thing that was interesting on

832
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,239
the weekend is a few people said RC, this is

833
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,039
why they wanted to change the kick offf for all,

834
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:40,880
because because you've now got set restarts happening earlier, the

835
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,679
momentum is staying with this team. Then that's what we've

836
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,119
got some blowout score lines. And then the person who

837
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,599
texted me this, I texted them an hour later after

838
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,320
the seven thirty Saturday game and said, well, if you

839
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,199
had the scoring team kicking off, get gold. You know

840
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,280
it goes both ways.

841
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,159
Speaker 4: Of course it does, but yeah, it does speed up

842
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,480
the game. I mean there were those old games Troy

843
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:06,960
where twenty penalties, it'll be blown and you'll be there

844
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,079
all bluddy for a game to finish.

845
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: You know what. What I do find a little bit

846
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,360
funny about set restarts is for years we'd have a player,

847
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,119
we'd have a penalty, and a player would try and

848
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,519
take the quick tap. Yeah, they do that essentially a

849
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,880
set restart, and the refereed send them back. Y're not

850
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,519
ready yet, but now we're quite happy set. It doesn't

851
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:27,280
matter if anyone's ready, we're just set restarting.

852
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just continue.

853
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: It's funny like we were, we were so adamant that no,

854
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,239
you couldn't continue on with a quick tap. But yet

855
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,239
now we're actually forcing that.

856
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:36,519
Speaker 3: Had the quick taps dead.

857
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: I think I saw Thomas Jenkins try to take one

858
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,360
the other night and a referee sent him back.

859
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,039
Speaker 3: He's like, no, this is not a quick tap tap opportunity.

860
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: Very very bizarre. All right, Nathan, it is time for

861
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,440
the price is right? Our favorite game?

862
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:52,679
Speaker 3: Yes, of course.

863
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,199
Speaker 2: And just to reminder, Nathan, if you do get something right,

864
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,760
this is what you'll hear or not. There you go.

865
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:01,800
I can't believe it's broken already.

866
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,559
Speaker 3: Oh the part we had budget up grades.

867
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: We must have just got a trial version of those

868
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,119
those stingers, all right, So there's going to be no

869
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,840
it's going to be no no alerts. I'm changing up

870
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,800
this week, Nathan. I've gone to nrlshop dot com, all right,

871
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,239
not the other Panthers shop.

872
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: We've gone over the NRS official NRLs.

873
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: This is the official NL shop, So not some dodgy,

874
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,960
not some dodgy. Now, as you know, Nathan, you need

875
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,920
to get this right within fifty cents. If you get

876
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,400
it right within fifty cents either way, then I will

877
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,159
buy you the it item.

878
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,639
Speaker 3: So brilliant, you know.

879
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: So far you're about none from twenty or something.

880
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, not going well in all of this.

881
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,199
Speaker 2: So let's see what you can what you can come

882
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,360
up with today? All right, So today we've got the

883
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,400
Panthers Reef Hawaiian Shirt.

884
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:53,639
Speaker 3: Ah yes, okay.

885
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: Bring to a traditional back to a traditional Hawaiian shirt.

886
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000
The new Reef Party shirt is You'll Wear Anywhere shirt

887
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,800
for season twenty twenty six. It's new and improved with

888
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,320
Rayon fabric, light and Breezy for a super country, super

889
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,880
comfy feel. It is official NRL merchandise. Currently on NRL Shop.

890
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Medium Xcel and two Excel are sold out, but you

891
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,079
can get a small, a three XCELOR four EXCELA, five

892
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:19,880
XCEL and a large.

893
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: What am I going to get if I win this?

894
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: Probably a large? Did you say?

895
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,639
Speaker 3: Is it a large? Available?

896
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: It is a large? Okay, okay, Now I'll just show

897
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,639
you the picture of it there, Nathan, there it.

898
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: Is, Oh okay, yep, pretty.

899
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,199
Speaker 2: Good looking shirt. What do you think?

900
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,159
Speaker 4: Well, look, last week I've overestimated some of the some

901
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,920
of the items.

902
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: I think I went way like double what they were worth.

903
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,880
So that one there, look.

904
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: That looks like about a forty five dollars item to me,

905
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,079
Troy forty five forty five.

906
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: Nathan, incorrect. We had the domer Idea Dono four. It's

907
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:56,599
sixty nine ninety five. What sixty ninety five for the Hawaiian.

908
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,559
Speaker 3: Shirt, So that's expensive.

909
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, unlucky, unlucky. All right, that's.

910
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: Happy not to win that, Nathan.

911
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: We have got for you right now, the Panthers adult

912
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:10,039
retro straw hat. So stay sun safe and show your

913
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,519
team pride with the NRL straw hat. Perfect for game days,

914
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:17,800
backyard barbecues, or beach trips. This classic straw hat features

915
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,599
team colors and retro inspired detail. You look great in that.

916
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

917
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,559
Speaker 2: You look great in that.

918
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,599
Speaker 3: Walking around some gardening in that.

919
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: The lawn look jeez, that's a tough one because caps

920
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,840
are pretty expensively.

921
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: One size fits all. Actually, there's a detail that you

922
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,760
haven't seen that I'll just bring up for yet. Look

923
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,000
at that on the inside. Oh that's the old pretty colors.

924
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: I like that.

925
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,599
Speaker 4: I have two amounts in mind. One is too cheap

926
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,440
and one one maybe a bit too expensive. But I'm

927
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,199
going to go the more expensive option because I think

928
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,760
the Nerl shop are charging a fortune for things.

929
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that would be around thirty five dollars.

930
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:06,519
Speaker 2: Marn't Troy Nathan for dollars, so you missed out again.

931
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,039
Speaker 3: I would have liked that.

932
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: Will Nathan get something before the end of the year.

933
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Do we have enough items to go through it?

934
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: I reckon we do? I reckon we do now just

935
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,320
before we go. Nathan emails of course podcast at Western

936
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,719
Weekend dot com at dot AU an email from Warren.

937
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,639
Warren says, last year we didn't feel like we were

938
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,119
watching the same team as we had for the previous

939
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,840
five seasons. I guess literally it wasn't with all the

940
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,679
players who departed, but it was more than exemplified by

941
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,119
Dylan Edwards subpar year. But last night versus the Broncos,

942
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,760
we saw a rejuvenated team that turn up in defense.

943
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Attitude was back, the kickchase was suffocating for the opposition,

944
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the back line movements to the right wing were threatening.

945
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Edward's running a mile, Nathan k engualsh from the sideline

946
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and of courses as a does he ever play a

947
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poor game? Bring on the rest of the year, says Warren.

948
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, said Warren. I think I think this week

949
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is the test, though I remember Penwrith did win their

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first game last year and then went on a five

951
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game us in streak. So they need to they need

952
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to win this week and keep that rolling and then

953
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I'll believe, I'll believe that the Panthers are truly back

954
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this year.

955
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Speaker 2: Podcast at Western Weekend that dot com that I you

956
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,440
if you want to send us an email, Nathan, You'll

957
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be catching up with some players tomorrow tomorrow for extra

958
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time this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they put up three players.

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Speaker 4: We've got Thomas Jenkins, We've got Calney going which I've

961
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never spoken to him before, and Billy Scott as well.

962
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Speaker 2: Okay, and of course Emily will have her new feature,

963
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:28,360
what's that.

964
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Speaker 4: Called Behind the Games? Underneath the Shots, Behind the Games.

965
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:35,280
I think she might be chatting with Thomas Jenkins.

966
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Speaker 3: Actually, Thomas one of her favorites.

967
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Speaker 4: Just before we go, did you watch the new Channel

968
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seven show last night as this time.

969
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Speaker 2: Yet to see or whatever it's called agenda their Rugby

970
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League version?

971
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Speaker 3: You want to watch the AFL version which came on

972
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straight after.

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Speaker 2: This was on against one hundred percent Footy. They went

974
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they went right against channels we had.

975
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Speaker 3: Corey Parker was the main host and it was filmed

976
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in Melbourne. I'm not sure that's the because I.

977
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Speaker 2: Saw a headline like a backhand to rugby or something.

978
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Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently the first few episodes of being filmed in Melbourne.

979
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I have no idea why, but that's where they were

980
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doing it.

981
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Speaker 3: Okay, it was bad. I could only get through ten

982
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minutes of it. Troy, I just.

983
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Speaker 2: Don't have any players on or anything like that.

984
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Speaker 3: Former players. That's some former players.

985
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:23,199
Speaker 2: I have no current players.

986
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Speaker 4: I don't believe, so I didn't watch it all. If

987
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,119
someone wants to correct me, I could only get through

988
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,079
ten minutes of it, and then I chucked on as

989
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one of my shows. But yeah, Corey Parker, Luke Keary,

990
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,599
David Riccio and Aaron woods Worthy was the panel and

991
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:38,440
it just didn't And then I watched one hundred percent

992
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,480
forty after that and just had it was just way better.

993
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,880
They had a studio audience one hundred percent forty. Now

994
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,760
that's just that panel which just has a has a laugh,

995
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has fun. This just seemed very serious. So if you

996
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,880
do see it, you'll see what I mean. They just

997
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:54,920
it just seemed like a very serious show. There was

998
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,760
no light, even though Woodsy can be a bit of

999
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,960
a funny guy at times. American it just didn't work

1000
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,519
with that mix, but as the first episode, so you

1001
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have to expect, you know, some tweaks in the coming weeks,

1002
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,960
just to liven it up a bit. But it was

1003
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a bit boring.

1004
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Speaker 2: All right, I'll go, I'll go check it out on

1005
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you yeah, YouTube or seven plus, So get too excited, okay,

1006
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,239
all right? Well, no, I like to give new shows

1007
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,840
a bit of a whirl, so we'll give that a go.

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Speaker 1: All right.

1009
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, a new edition of the Weekend arout. It's

1010
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actually our thirty fifth Birthday edition.

1011
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got a cake coming on Friday, or we

1012
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,960
should get a cake cake or something.

1013
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: Cal's got a mud cake cappening.

1014
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:32,599
Speaker 3: Like a Baker's a cake with thirty five on there.

1015
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Speaker 2: Come on, send it in our thirty fifth Birthday edition.

1016
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So we've got some good memories in there and things

1017
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like that.

1018
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Speaker 3: Some bad ones.

1019
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously it has all been good in thirty five years.

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But that is it for tensions running high this week.

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New episodes are out every Wednesday. Visit Western Weekend dot com,

1022
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dot a. You follow us on all the socials. Check

1023
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out our print edition, which is out every Thursday. I'm

1024
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:53,679
Troy Dodd's Nathan, thank you very much for joining us,

1025
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Thanks Troy, and we'll do it all again next week.

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Thanks to Penris City Automotive for their sponsorship as well.

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We'll see a new time on tensions running high, Go

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the Panthers.