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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real

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<v Speaker 1>tight homegirl and my daughter in law Beatrice. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to talk sister wives. Yes, we are

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<v Speaker 1>still in the rewind air rack. We are finishing up

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<v Speaker 1>season six and I'm thankful. Finally let's get this dumb

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<v Speaker 1>commitment ceremony over with. I am so bored. But before

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're having a lot of fun there and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>mount six thousand subscribers. I think we're like almost a

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<v Speaker 1>five point five.

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<v Speaker 2>Right halfway there.

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<v Speaker 1>Half way is six. I'm so thrilled, though, keep hope alive. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into our recap, which I just cannot

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<v Speaker 1>imagine is going to be more than five minutes, honestly serious,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that happened in this episode happened in the last episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we get into it, did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>like overarching the takeaways?

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<v Speaker 2>That cake that Cody wanted so badly, that tree cake?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the eighty five hundred dollars cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Was looking awfully phallic to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I didn't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very It looked like, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bezos is a spaceship, very phallic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh gosh, we're being interrupted live on raccoon TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Our waiter is bringing me a cocktail. It's the best

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<v Speaker 1>interruption possible. Hi three D, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate it. Thank you. You know I need

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<v Speaker 1>to drink to talk about these brows.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye. So your takeaway is that the tree is phallic? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the tree cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna argue the point. I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>that I have a takeaway other than, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be exiting season.

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<v Speaker 2>Six over it.

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<v Speaker 1>Season seven seems to have some good juicy things from

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<v Speaker 1>the lore from the Cannon, So we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>getting into for example.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, my sister Wives closet and Robin. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 2>go and pitch it to investors because Robin is so

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<v Speaker 2>tired and overwork.

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<v Speaker 1>It works so hard for this family.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally goes on a whole pity party and she's like, Cody,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have another baby, but like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>right now because I'm so busy with my sister wives closet,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we need investors. So then they go and pitch

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<v Speaker 2>it to investors and it's an absolute fucking fail and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get the money obviously, and then Robin has

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<v Speaker 2>a full on meltdown. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, isn't this the season where Mary wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to university?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, which Robin also freaks out about.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. So this is all going to be good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to conte Are we going to continue? Because

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<v Speaker 1>as we have all heard by now, I'm sure Sister

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<v Speaker 1>Wives Season twenty is coming back on September twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, in just like a month, bet.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally a month a month be I feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>just finished season nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh by the way, if you are going to join

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<v Speaker 1>our Patreon, please know that we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the trailer for Sister Wives and also the

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<v Speaker 1>mid season trailer for Plaithville, which is also crazy. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's on Patreon, so if you want to see her reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>check it out there. But like it's already coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like we were covering season

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen through June, right, yeah, it was June.

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<v Speaker 2>We definitely were, like for almost an entire year we

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<v Speaker 2>were covering that season. So if season twenty is that

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<v Speaker 2>long again, I'm gonna, oh God, pass away. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we're still gonna cover it. Obviously and enjoy it

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<v Speaker 2>because it's probably I don't know, I'm just fake psychic

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<v Speaker 2>predicting it's probably gonna be the final season.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean after watching the trailer, which again

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<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss on Patreon, but it kind of like looks

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<v Speaker 1>up there sewing up the last of the issues, i e.

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<v Speaker 1>Coyote Pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would be shocked if we did another season

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<v Speaker 2>after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know, but I just can't it's so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So but we are gonna go right back into season

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<v Speaker 1>seven of our rewinds, and then when Sister Wives come

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<v Speaker 1>back for season twenty, we're going to pause. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, never ending, never entering Sister Wives. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna go right into it starting next

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<v Speaker 1>week because there was a tell all after this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm just kind of like, we know that

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<v Speaker 2>they're lying. We know it's Tameron Hall, which is she's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but like we know that we're not gonna get her

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<v Speaker 2>for very many tailaws after this, and it's just like, eh, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is our last episod season six, and then

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<v Speaker 1>next week we're gonna get right into season seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also have Seeking Sister Wives coming up, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and of September, we also have Special Forces.

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<v Speaker 2>All at the end of September.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen any of the little clips that they're releasing

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<v Speaker 1>for Special Forces, A little bit looks like Cody's in

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of a face mask or a helmet, which

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<v Speaker 1>I only know it's him because I can see his

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<v Speaker 1>curly girl to tendrils. Yes, so it's coming and we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to cover that at least until he eliminates himself,

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<v Speaker 1>which I hear is after one episode I really hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and then what else plaithfill still platfhil Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's four shows, girl, We're gonna have to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We will let you know what the schedule is going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like, but that's what we're planning on diving

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<v Speaker 1>into all of that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I got to watch Seeking Sister Wife

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<v Speaker 2>because Garrick and also mister Unemployed with the three slash

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<v Speaker 2>four wives or whatever you remember where he had all

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<v Speaker 2>of them and they sleep in the same bed together.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the Denver Daddy, Yeah, all the thick white ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>Lay Danielle is gone, the last the most bros. Yes, Okay, no, eyelashes, eyelashes, eyelashes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's gone, she's got them, and there's a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, there's a lot going on in Seeking Sister Weibes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's going to be a trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrede and thloth feel is really lit on and pop

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<v Speaker 1>in too. So anyway, again, we'll keep you posted and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know what's going on with that. But

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<v Speaker 1>without further too, let's get into season six, episode nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>of Sister Wives and Idol, the commitment celebration. Let's roll

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<v Speaker 1>right through this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bored, and it's just like in true brown fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be chaotic or doing everything last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't running around scrambling.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and I didn't realize that, like with the

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<v Speaker 2>dresses that they were getting custom made by that poor

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<v Speaker 2>dress designer who's just like wanting to pull her hair out.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked her like three weeks in advance, which is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely insane, to four dresses before this freaking commitment ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>And lo and behold, Mary's dress is not gonna work out.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's got to go to some booty ass boutique

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<v Speaker 2>and buy a freaking lime green girl dress.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was twenty fourteen. I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>another moment in time in terms of fashion, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how Mary steps out and is in that

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<v Speaker 1>drab lime green dress with like a little white bolero

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever and a sash which accentuates her torso, her torso,

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<v Speaker 1>all of her torso. But like she comes out, she

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<v Speaker 1>looks in the mirror and her she's like, oh, a look,

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<v Speaker 1>stunning girl.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the most unflattering thing beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was horrible, so bad, but still better than the

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<v Speaker 1>dress that Sam the designer was constructing. Poor beleaguered Sam

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to try to turn something out for these ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>And she had to bring her freaking mom to help Alfia,

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<v Speaker 2>who was such a saint, and she was just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make something work. And Janelle's dress ended up looking

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<v Speaker 2>pretty great. She looked really pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Janelle looked lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the dress kind of nipped in her waist,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really looking good because she's been working out

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<v Speaker 1>with that guy at the gym for like a year now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, like with the little fall extension she

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<v Speaker 1>had with her eyes, I'm like, holy, she's pretty. You're ravishing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the collar on her was so gorgeous as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought so too. I'm like, you like it. She's

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<v Speaker 2>like a jewel towne is.

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<v Speaker 1>That a jewel town? It is a jewel toe like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty. And remember like the hot pink dress that

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<v Speaker 1>she wore to Christine's one of Christine's many engagement shindy

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<v Speaker 1>egs like also kind of a beautiful jewel tone. She

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<v Speaker 1>looked gorgeous then, and she looked gorgeous for the celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, Janelle's the only one that looked good here because

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<v Speaker 2>Mary's dress is horrible. God, and then we have Christine's dress,

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<v Speaker 2>the Renaissance Fair Empire waste, totally freaking burnt orange.

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<v Speaker 1>A terrible color, a truly awful What are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but she's being a good sport and

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<v Speaker 1>at least it's a dress that Sam and Althea can

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<v Speaker 1>complete before the celebration, even though it looks like dog

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<v Speaker 1>shit horrible. It's really bad, but they're doing some last

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<v Speaker 1>minute alterations and Christina is being really nice about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she does end up wearing it, which I'm personally shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>She should have got a different dress. At the Booty

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<v Speaker 2>Ass Boutique with Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>But she did she did not.

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<v Speaker 2>She thought she looked fine, I guess. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>have Robin's dress that was also a train wreck that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to work out because it didn't fit her

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<v Speaker 2>properly or whatever. And then luckily Robin has dress that'll

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<v Speaker 2>work because it's like the day of the event or

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<v Speaker 2>something like their day before. And Sam's like, this dress

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<v Speaker 2>is not gonna work. You need to find an alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you have anything in your my sister wife's

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<v Speaker 1>closet that would suit this occasion, And Robin's like, as

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, actually do have a dress in the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same color. Yeah, And then she goes and gets

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<v Speaker 1>it and she puts it on, and I think it's matronly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she looks like a witch. But at least

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<v Speaker 1>it works for the event.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does like fit her properly. Yeah, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you go shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>For that before? Of course she did.

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<v Speaker 2>So It's just like, you make these other women look

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<v Speaker 2>like fools getting these dresses designed that are just train wrecks, Like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>Janelle's is the only one that's decent, And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>bad for Sam. Because I feel like she tried really

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I think she was working off the designs

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<v Speaker 1>that were presented to her by the women, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were terrible designs, and so she's doing the best she

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<v Speaker 1>can with a shit sandwich. Did you note the scene

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen and she's like, oh my god, Janelle,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you look really really thin. Yes, I did

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<v Speaker 1>know that, which I felt was interesting. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think in her own way, and circa twenty fourteen, she

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<v Speaker 1>time continuing to highlight the fact that Janelle has been

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with her weight. But it was just also like

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<v Speaker 1>a needless comment. You could have just said, wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>look really beautiful. That looks lovely on you, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>the thinnest wife is telling the biggest wife that she's

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<v Speaker 1>looking really thin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it felt like a mean girl comment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the popular girl at high school is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, it makes you look so skinny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it felt really rude to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was hoping that it wasn't okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it, Robin the Witch, is we her whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>Because even Janelle was just like oh okay, thanks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because of just a couple episodes ago. Robin's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I only got an Excel T shirt for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's gonna figure. That's basically what

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<v Speaker 2>she's saying. Yeah, so yeah, I did note that. And

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<v Speaker 2>did you note the scene when Mary was going shopping

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<v Speaker 2>for addresses and Mary on the couch was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how she needed her best friend Andrea to come help her,

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<v Speaker 2>and Christine's like, but we're supposed to be your best

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<v Speaker 2>friends and then Mary like awkwardly laughs about like, well

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not though, like I have Andrea. Yes, just

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<v Speaker 2>highlighting how they're not liking each other right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And essentially Mary tells Christine because it's Christine who's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of making a joke about not being invited or

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<v Speaker 1>not being considered a best friend to Mary, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>making a joke about it, but like Mary's like, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you don't want to shop and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go with me, so oh that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking an actual friend, and I think it's great that

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends, yea, because none of you bitches actually

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<v Speaker 1>like me, nor do you Cody.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, I'm kind of watching these older seasons

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, Mary, you're kind of mean, though a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit like you kind of oust everybody else except

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<v Speaker 2>for Robin in these earlier seasons, Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Christine was also making a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a job being like, but where's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>your friends? I don't know. It just shows that even

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<v Speaker 2>at this time, the wives are not really liking each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the sole reason is because Robin's stealing Cody

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<v Speaker 2>from everybody, so they're all bitter and coming after each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But except for Janelle, she seems just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Janelle's in her Renaissance era.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I do think that Mary, you really notice

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<v Speaker 1>starting season five and season six that her walls really

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<v Speaker 1>are up, Like she's talking a lot about where she

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<v Speaker 1>fits in the family and now that Leon's out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, like where does that leave me? But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you don't really see that contrasted with

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<v Speaker 1>attempts by Mary to be friends with this women. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to San Francisco, and yes it was a contrived,

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<v Speaker 1>produced event, but like we don't really see them hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>We see Mary in like the periphery of Robin's life,

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<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily Robin in the periphery of Mary's life,

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<v Speaker 1>so like she's not trying, she's not doing anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>even at the end of this episode, not to jump ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>although this episode sucked, but I mean, they end the

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<v Speaker 1>episode saying this was great and all, we have the celebration,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean the work is done. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're all fixed and we're in the Call to

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<v Speaker 1>Sac and everything's going to be great, And they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to acknowledge like there's a lot that they still have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You can see it in Mary, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it in Christine's joke about not being her

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<v Speaker 1>best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely eloquently put. And then we I mean, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>episode is like just preparing for the commitment ceremony, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like chaotic because the Browns do

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<v Speaker 2>everything last minute. He is trying to hang up lights

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<v Speaker 2>in the cul de sac and he's failing because he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a Roman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but he's also getting angry about it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he wants to have these big events and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to show himself as like the patriarch who's coordinating everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's moving things around and he's taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. But at the same time he can't

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. And so just stringing the lights from each

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<v Speaker 1>of the four houses in the call de sac to

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<v Speaker 1>like this center point is stressing him out to such

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<v Speaker 1>a degree that he's snapping at his wives. Ye by

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<v Speaker 1>the time we even get to the celebration, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>over the top. He's having a terrible time during their pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to. And it ends up like his

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother Michael comes and finishes the lights for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, say, why why have we been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for all of these days? Why did we need the

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<v Speaker 1>lights in the first place, in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>cul de sac when there were so many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Grandma's here, bonnies here, You've got Mary, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got her sister. They're making all this food, there's all

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<v Speaker 1>of the tables and decorations, but like you are setting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself apart from all of that to do this other

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<v Speaker 1>project so you don't have to help exact you're still

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<v Speaker 1>getting pissed off at everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's like this whole celebration is just too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have seven hundred servings of food that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to make, that the wives have to make and

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<v Speaker 2>the grandmas have to make, and then all this furniture

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<v Speaker 2>being delivered, and then the lights, and then the photos,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the phallic cake and then the stupid dresses

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<v Speaker 2>and the sad ceremony. It's just like way too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's all for an image. It's all for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a season finale of just like, look, we're

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<v Speaker 2>committing each committing to each other and to our family,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're hating each other at the same time. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like it's all a narcissistic display. I think on

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<v Speaker 2>Cody's part to be like, yeah, I'm keeping it together,

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<v Speaker 2>but we know that he's not. Like behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>shit's crumbling. And even in his mood him getting all

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<v Speaker 2>angry about the fucking lights, it's like, chill out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a big deal, and it didn't even need

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<v Speaker 1>to do it in the first place. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when they would take their big road trips, like when

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<v Speaker 1>they went to that Nauvoo or whatever in Illinois, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he was just getting progressively more and more upset. Although

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't this your idea. Wasn't it Mary who organized the

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<v Speaker 1>road trip in the first place, And wasn't it you

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<v Speaker 1>that blew the timeline? But like you're getting mad, You're

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<v Speaker 1>snapping at people. It's like, why do you do this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time? And this just kind of illustrates to

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<v Speaker 1>me as we close out this particular season that he

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<v Speaker 1>loves to tell us how much he loves his family,

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes down to actually babysitting that babysitting,

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<v Speaker 1>but watching your child truly who's got a kidney infection

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<v Speaker 1>while your wives are in San Francisco, When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to just being present while you're having this celebration

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<v Speaker 1>that you've been talking about for the entire season, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not actually there, You don't actually love these kids

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<v Speaker 1>who are showing up and doing the best that they can,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're telling them that they're going to be exiled

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<v Speaker 1>from the family if they act out on celebration day.

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<v Speaker 1>This is who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy making dude, I just I couldn't deal with it. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole episode kind of stressed me out. It was boring,

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<v Speaker 2>but it stressed me out just with all of the

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<v Speaker 2>planning of everything. It kind of reminded me of how

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<v Speaker 2>my family does things, because growing up, my mom would

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<v Speaker 2>always want to do these like big, grandiose like celebrations

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And for my mom, it kind of came

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<v Speaker 2>from a good place, just like wanting to give us

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<v Speaker 2>like a good experience and everything, but it always stressed

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<v Speaker 2>her out and she would get agitated and she would

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<v Speaker 2>snap at us. She wouldn't tell us we were exiled

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<v Speaker 2>from the family, but like she would get fucking annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>with us when she's trying to prepare everything, and she

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<v Speaker 2>would take on so much pressure to be like perfect

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<v Speaker 2>and to appear perfect and to put on this display

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody else. And I'm like, why it cares Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're just a family, we don't need to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I kind of felt how the older kids

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<v Speaker 2>were feeling, like what was it last episode when they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>this whole celebration is just for our parents, Like we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>We're fad for the parents, it's for the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are showing up, and it's for us the audience. So

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<v Speaker 1>that they can try to convince us that they are

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<v Speaker 1>one working, functioning, happy family, which they are not. Right

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<v Speaker 1>and also it's because they have to create contents that

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to have this show. And it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>having me wonder as I was watching this, because I

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<v Speaker 1>did peak at season seven there's only eight episodes versus

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<v Speaker 1>this is the nineteenth episode of season six, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering when Cody heard from TLC and production that they

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<v Speaker 1>may be canceling the show, and then the lore is

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<v Speaker 1>that Cody negotiated to take a huge pay cut and

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot less in order to continue with the show.

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<v Speaker 1>When was that, Like what year was that was it

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<v Speaker 1>around this time? I'm just I'm kind of wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be kind of an interesting theory because maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's why they plan to do this big thing because

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<v Speaker 2>he thought it would be like really good content and

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<v Speaker 2>it would keep him on the show, Like just film

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<v Speaker 2>me doing a bunch of random bullshit in my cul

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<v Speaker 2>de sac and like keep me on the show DLC.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering, like what the audience was thinking at

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<v Speaker 1>this time. And I know that there are some people

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<v Speaker 1>who listen and who watch who absolutely were watching from

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<v Speaker 1>season one, Like, what was the consensus in the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Were people already onto them? Were people still thinking like, wow, polygamy,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like us? Or could they they could they

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<v Speaker 1>feel the undertones? Could they sense that there was a

422
00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.319
<v Speaker 1>lot more going on? And was that why they continued

423
00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:31.079
<v Speaker 1>to watch. I'm just curious. I don't know, but I

424
00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:35.039
<v Speaker 1>just feel like this was so boring, so contrived, and

425
00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:40.079
<v Speaker 1>like the endless ceremonial, the sand thing, the tree thing,

426
00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the kids with their gratitude roses, the jewelry that Robin made.

427
00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why are we why are we doing thing?

428
00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:50.319
<v Speaker 2>And like doing it for a bunch of guests and

429
00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:52.799
<v Speaker 2>stuff that we never end up seeing ever again.

430
00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it doesn't matter.

431
00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't matter at all, Like, let's just get

432
00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.279
<v Speaker 2>to the whole commitment ceremony, because everybody's getting everybody's rest

433
00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:06.279
<v Speaker 2>in their Sunday best. We have all of the well

434
00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean in their version of the Browns, Yes, yes,

435
00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:11.400
<v Speaker 2>we have furniture being delivered.

436
00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:12.519
<v Speaker 1>We have the cake.

437
00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.480
<v Speaker 2>We have all the food that the wives made and

438
00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>prepared for everybody everyone shows up, all the guests. We

439
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:23.839
<v Speaker 2>have Robin's beautiful, big backyard that was Redone for this

440
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:27.000
<v Speaker 2>whole ceremony, and I'm looking at it and I'm like, damn.

441
00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Multiple thousands of dollars damn went into whatever they did

442
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in that backyard. So are we sure that that was

443
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>her backyard? Because again they keep referring it to our backyard.

444
00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:41.839
<v Speaker 1>So is it like the shared space between Robin and

445
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Mary or was that all just in Robin's backyard for

446
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:47.839
<v Speaker 1>her home and for the value of her home.

447
00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I was watching this and I'm like,

448
00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell whose house it was, so I don't

449
00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.480
<v Speaker 2>know if like the fans snooped it out and found

450
00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.480
<v Speaker 2>out that it was Robin's backyard. And that's maybe why

451
00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.960
<v Speaker 2>they didn't say whose house it was, because they didn't

452
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:04.920
<v Speaker 2>want people to know, Like they didn't want the fans

453
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to know at the time that it was Robin's backyard

454
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 2>that got to be Redone. But I'm just like, looking

455
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.119
<v Speaker 2>at it the aerial view of how big it was

456
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 2>and all the fake grass and everything, I'm like, dang, dude,

457
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that was a lot of money and landscaping. And I

458
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about the whole ceremony, right because remember when

459
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.960
<v Speaker 2>they were going cake shopping and Cody was talking about

460
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:28.839
<v Speaker 2>his big phallic cake dream, and Janelle was like worried

461
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 2>about how expensive it was going to because it was

462
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be eighty five hundred dollars. But then I'm looking

463
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.079
<v Speaker 2>at all of the money that they spent on this

464
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>stupid party, and I'm like, you spent way more than that,

465
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and you weren't worried about that.

466
00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, And you just know that if it did go

467
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>into Robin's backyard, or even if it was Janelle's or

468
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Mary's or Christine's, the other wives would have had an

469
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>issue with that. Yeah, they would have said, well, this

470
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.039
<v Speaker 1>is bettering that home. It's going to add to the

471
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>value and the ultimate equity of that home. How Robin

472
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>gets the full benefit of that, but I don't. So

473
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you just know that that's a conversation that they would

474
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:09.799
<v Speaker 1>have had. But like TLC is already on the fuck

475
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:12.839
<v Speaker 1>shit with not like divulging what those conversations are. And

476
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>when we compare that with what is currently happening on

477
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Platfill and all the conversations that are taking place, for

478
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>better or for worse, it's just like, I just wish

479
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that they would have had the foresight to film some

480
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>of that and be honest, because that would have been

481
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 1>really great information to hear instead of focusing on the

482
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.119
<v Speaker 1>sun ceremony and how Robin designed these booty ass trees

483
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.599
<v Speaker 1>of life for the cuffs and the bracelets, like nobody

484
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 1>actually cares you, basic, bit Sorry, that's so bad. I'm sorry. Serious,

485
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the truth, basic, and.

486
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>That's it's all about the appearances. It's all about like, no,

487
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>we're a happy family. No, we have no problems. No,

488
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.279
<v Speaker 2>we love each other. We're imperfect like every other family,

489
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>but we're doing great. We have the family focus, like

490
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we're we're working on it, we're in therapy. And it's like,

491
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>but you're not. Though there's obviously like a huge disparity

492
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>right from the get go, right from the beginning, and

493
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.680
<v Speaker 2>it's because of Robin. It's just like crazy making to

494
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:16.160
<v Speaker 2>watch this and Robin's booty ass jewelry, those cuffs that

495
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>she made, so everybody, I'm like, what is this? Who

496
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.279
<v Speaker 2>would actually wear that? I thought she made like cuff

497
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.359
<v Speaker 2>links or something. No, it was a giant faux leather

498
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 2>bracelet with a little tree of life on it. And

499
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like how much money did that cost?

500
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And did they end up marketing that on the website

501
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 1>from my sister wife's closet. Did they try and sell

502
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that as a product? How much were they selling it for?

503
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I just wasn't tuned in back then, yeah, to

504
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of ask those questions. But yeah, like it was

505
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 1>all it was all cringe worthy, super much opinion.

506
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And then when they have the family photos yea, and

507
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Cody has his whole fucking meltdown because they do like

508
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>individual family photos and I don't know if they were

509
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.799
<v Speaker 2>doing photos of like each kid, no, no, just just

510
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 2>just family.

511
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, him with his wife, a specific wife and their kids.

512
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then when they get to the actual group photo,

513
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Cody is like like on his wits end freaking out

514
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 2>because he's tired of smiling for the camera, and so

515
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to gather all of the people together for

516
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>this one giant photo. And this is where we have

517
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Cody like yelling for everybody to look down the lens

518
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and then he has that weird, creepy like like demon

519
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>shake or something, and.

520
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Then right and the smile.

521
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>My god, what a freak.

522
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I guess that's to communicate that he's really stressed out.

523
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, your kids are hip, Your kids are behaving.

524
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're just kids. They're doing what kids do.

525
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Pid they're actually being well behaved in this moment, it's

526
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you that's stressed out. It's you that seems to be

527
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 1>annoyed and bothered by your very normal family.

528
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just like, how old are you at this point?

529
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>You're in your forties, Like learn to emotionally regulate, Like,

530
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>why are you freaking out like this over just some photos?

531
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was hot, I don't know, but I'm just like,

532
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>you're a freak.

533
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're weird.

534
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>And it just to me, like I said last week,

535
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>is just a window into how Cody actually is off camera.

536
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 2>He's probably not that nice of a dad. I know

537
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I've probably said this on the pod before that. Oh,

538
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>it looked like Cody might have been a good dad

539
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to the kids in the earlier seasons, and now I'm

540
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I don't know, he might have been

541
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 2>a little angry. You might have yelled at them too much.

542
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know what he was like.

543
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>But well, I think that we can see multiple aspects

544
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of Cody, Like I can see in these earlier seasons

545
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that he was present sometimes with his kids, that he

546
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>did love his kids, Like when he was walking around

547
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to each of the children before they made their entrance

548
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 1>into the party, He's telling the littles that they look gorgeous.

549
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>He's calling out each of his children and saying, you

550
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 1>look really fly in that suit, like he's trying to

551
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>give them a pep talk. And I just I thought

552
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.039
<v Speaker 1>that was a nice aspect of Cody. But from where

553
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 1>we're sitting in twenty twenty five, like these negative aspects

554
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and atropy that are showing themselves in these earlier seasons,

555
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 1>especially as we progress, you can really see how they

556
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 1>have crystallized into this person that he is currently, Like

557
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>this angry, small, little narcissistic man. You can see like

558
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 1>twinges of that here in this episode. And then just

559
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 1>to know that he indulges that from that point on,

560
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 1>he allows himself to feel that more and more and

561
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.759
<v Speaker 1>more and to place himself in that position of authority

562
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 1>and importance so that he then feels entitled to mistreat

563
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 1>his other wives and ultimately his children. Like how that

564
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>progress actually happens. You can see glimpses here, little glimpses,

565
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 1>but like the man he has become, what a shame.

566
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Honestly a disgrace. And even in the moments when he

567
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.079
<v Speaker 2>was telling his kids that they were beautiful, I just

568
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 2>felt was like just a response to how he was

569
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Speaker 2>appeared on the camera or how he appeared on the camera,

570
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>like it was just him love bombing his kids, like no, no, no,

571
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I actually love you, and I don't want to exile

572
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you from the family. Sorry for yelling at you on

573
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:09.079
<v Speaker 2>national television like a fucking crazy person. You're beautiful though,

574
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you're gorgeous, nice dress, yeah, handsome, Just crazy. And

575
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 2>then the whole stand ceremony thing, like again, I talked

576
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>about that last week. It's cursed because I did my

577
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>my family did that, and now we don't talk to

578
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>each other.

579
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Yikes.

580
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>And they did it, and now they don't die to

581
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 2>each other. And then the signing of the mission statement

582
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>was just so cringe.

583
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I don't care either, And furthermore, I

584
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think they care.

585
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>No.

586
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I know Janelle doesn't care, I know Mary is uninterested.

587
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:47.599
<v Speaker 1>I know those kids don't care. Like nobody cares. And

588
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 1>in four or five years time, you're all gonna be

589
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>exploding as a family.

590
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Just crazy making. And then we have the kids though

591
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:58.599
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of sweet where they had this little

592
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>surprise for the family to basically show the parents that

593
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>they actually did care about the ceremony a little bit.

594
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And so they have each one of the kids say

595
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 2>what they're grateful for for their family.

596
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Which was nice. And I liked watching Hunter on the

597
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>couch with the rest of the older kids, and he's

598
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about how it is really wonderful that they're all

599
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>in proximity to one another, they're in this cul de sac,

600
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 1>they're back together again, and that this celebration for him

601
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 1>really does symbolize like we're getting it back on track,

602
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like we're a family again. And I feel sad, yeah,

603
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't actually end up coming to fruition, but

604
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you can see that the kids actually are hopeful and

605
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>they're glad and they're playing with each other, and it's sad.

606
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 2>It's really sad, and it's like crazy to see how

607
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>much the separation really did affect the entire family. Like

608
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>they don't talk about it too too much, but every

609
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>once in a while they'll make a comment about like

610
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>how when they were in their rentals, like their family

611
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 2>really suffered and really struggled and really broke and now

612
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 2>they're in the cul de Sac and so they're really

613
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>working on things, like it did a lot of damage

614
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to be separated just for two years for such a

615
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>cohesive family unit and everything. And then now that they're

616
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 2>in the coulda Sag things will be okay for a

617
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>little and then they go back to flag stuff again separated,

618
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and then that's ultimately what breaks up the entire family.

619
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

620
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Just crazy.

621
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, when they're talking about getting back together, what

622
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to recapture is Lehigh, yes, because the last

623
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>time these kids were together, that's what it was, yep,

624
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then the cameras came, and then fame

625
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 1>came and they moved to Vegas and they had the

626
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 1>rentals and so in their little childlike spirits, they're hoping

627
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 1>that this is them coming back to what they had

628
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 1>in Lehigh. And that's what makes it really tragic to me,

629
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>is because the cameras changed Cody, yep, and the money

630
00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>changed Cody and Rob and everything has been changed as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as those cameras went up, as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>relocated and left their way of life like it was

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<v Speaker 1>never ever going to be the same. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like as a child as you get older and then

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<v Speaker 1>you leave, maybe go to university or you get your

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<v Speaker 1>first apartment or whatever. But it kind of strikes you

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<v Speaker 1>that first Christmas or whatever, or that first year that

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<v Speaker 1>you're away, like it's never going to be what it

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<v Speaker 1>was before, right, And there's something so lonesome about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet in this snapshot, this moment with Hunter on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch, he's like, we're back together and it's awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be great, and he really is grateful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but twenty twenty five, I think he hates his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I would, and I don't blame him at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, if I was one of these older kids,

646
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<v Speaker 2>I would be so fucking resentful.

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<v Speaker 1>You sold me a dream, Dad. You told me that

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<v Speaker 1>we were a certain kind of family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>You told me that you loved us.

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00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>What happened, and you raised us all as we were siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>And like all of the siblings do keep their relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like for the most part, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some that don't talk to each other or whatever, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, they're all still a family. But

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<v Speaker 2>to have their dad and to watch their dad just

657
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<v Speaker 2>like slowly walk away from them all and like slowly

658
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<v Speaker 2>abandon them all for Robin and her kids.

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<v Speaker 1>After subjecting them to this endless parade of things like

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<v Speaker 1>the commitment ceremony. Yes, these symbols of what a family

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00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>should be, while underneath all of those symbols there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you spending all your time with Robin. There's you

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<v Speaker 1>neglecting them and hurting their mothers. You know, it's like, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mind fuck. It would have had to been

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<v Speaker 1>such a mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, definitely. So it's just really weird and sad to

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<v Speaker 2>watch this commitment ceremony because we know that it's all bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that it turns to shit in just a

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<v Speaker 2>few years.

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<v Speaker 1>And it feels in this moment like they're performing. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels this moment like is any of this real?

672
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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course you have Robin. As she's reading her

674
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 1>portion of the mission statement, she can hardly get through,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I get emotional when I talk, like

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00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just I'm like, you're performing. Yes, It's like I

677
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<v Speaker 1>don't buy.

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<v Speaker 2>It, no, and I don't think anybody does. I don't

679
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 2>think the viewers bought it even back then, because I

680
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I was watching this I would never

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<v Speaker 2>have believed Robin from the get go. Okay, she's been

682
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>a snake in my opinion. But like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to like commit to the family again

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<v Speaker 2>and you wanted to do something to like celebrate all

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<v Speaker 2>of your love and like be together, you could have

686
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>taken like a big family trip and could have like

687
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 2>camped out on the beach or something and like made

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00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>it a really cool, like family centered trip, or I

689
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know, just get together and it didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be produced with all the furniture and the dresses and

691
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the phallic cake and the decoration.

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<v Speaker 1>The witnesses, yes, the people showing up to celebrate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it didn't need to be that. It could have

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<v Speaker 2>just been a giant family get together or like a

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<v Speaker 2>big barbecue in the middle of the cul de sac

696
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 2>where everybody's just like playing around and we all hang

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<v Speaker 2>out together. You could have rented a big family house

698
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<v Speaker 2>where you all stayed together, kind of like the Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>that they.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about that first Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you could have done something like that and

702
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 2>it would have been so much more meaningful and authentic.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead you put on this stupid display with the

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<v Speaker 2>mission statement and the sand ceremony to try and convince

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<v Speaker 2>the audience that you love each other when we know

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<v Speaker 2>you don't or.

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<v Speaker 1>They're starting not to. Yeah, it's all falling apart, it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so thus concludes season six. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I mean here again, this was like the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth episode. I think in season six we went to Sadonah. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've had therapy with Nancy, the baby talk. We've

712
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>had a lot that we've had to go through. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to get to season seven. I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>to get to Leon being awful to marry. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure what season that is. That's the Catfish and or after.

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00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I am dying to get to the Cabish Bitch. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna keep going. Yeah, we're gonna keep covering

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<v Speaker 1>these rewinds, and we thank you guys for joining us. Now, Beatrice,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything else that we need to say to

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<v Speaker 1>these beautiful raccoons before we get up on out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine visualize. We will be back later this

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<v Speaker 1>week to continue our conversation about what crazy stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>happening on Welcome to Platfill, so make sure you join

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<v Speaker 1>us for that. Until then, please do not forget that

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<v Speaker 1>we have nothing but love for you, and please out.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye y