Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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Speaker 1: We are here to talk sister wives. Yes, we are
Speaker 1: still in the rewind air rack. We are finishing up
Speaker 1: season six and I'm thankful. Finally let's get this dumb
Speaker 1: commitment ceremony over with. I am so bored. But before
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Speaker 1: Half way is six. I'm so thrilled, though, keep hope alive. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: before we get into our recap, which I just cannot
Speaker 1: imagine is going to be more than five minutes, honestly serious,
Speaker 1: everything that happened in this episode happened in the last episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but before we get into it, did you have any
Speaker 1: like overarching the takeaways?
Speaker 2: That cake that Cody wanted so badly, that tree cake?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the eighty five hundred dollars cake.
Speaker 2: Was looking awfully phallic to me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 2: It was very It looked like, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos is a spaceship, very phallic.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh gosh, we're being interrupted live on raccoon TV.
Speaker 1: Our waiter is bringing me a cocktail. It's the best
Speaker 1: interruption possible. Hi three D, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, babe.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it. Thank you. You know I need
Speaker 1: to drink to talk about these brows.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Bye. So your takeaway is that the tree is phallic? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: the tree cake.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue the point. I don't really know
Speaker 1: that I have a takeaway other than, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be exiting season.
Speaker 2: Six over it.
Speaker 1: Season seven seems to have some good juicy things from
Speaker 1: the lore from the Cannon, So we're going to be
Speaker 1: getting into for example.
Speaker 2: Oh God, my sister Wives closet and Robin. Yes, they
Speaker 2: go and pitch it to investors because Robin is so
Speaker 2: tired and overwork.
Speaker 1: It works so hard for this family.
Speaker 2: She literally goes on a whole pity party and she's like, Cody,
Speaker 2: I want to have another baby, but like I can't
Speaker 2: right now because I'm so busy with my sister wives closet,
Speaker 2: Like we need investors. So then they go and pitch
Speaker 2: it to investors and it's an absolute fucking fail and
Speaker 2: they don't get the money obviously, and then Robin has
Speaker 2: a full on meltdown. It's so good.
Speaker 1: And also, isn't this the season where Mary wants to
Speaker 1: go back to university?
Speaker 2: Yes, which Robin also freaks out about.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. So this is all going to be good.
Speaker 1: We're going to conte Are we going to continue? Because
Speaker 1: as we have all heard by now, I'm sure Sister
Speaker 1: Wives Season twenty is coming back on September twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, in just like a month, bet.
Speaker 2: Literally a month a month be I feel like we
Speaker 2: just finished season nineteen.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, if you are going to join
Speaker 1: our Patreon, please know that we are going to be
Speaker 1: looking at the trailer for Sister Wives and also the
Speaker 1: mid season trailer for Plaithville, which is also crazy. But
Speaker 1: that's on Patreon, so if you want to see her reaction,
Speaker 1: check it out there. But like it's already coming back.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we were covering season
Speaker 1: nineteen through June, right, yeah, it was June.
Speaker 2: We definitely were, like for almost an entire year we
Speaker 2: were covering that season. So if season twenty is that
Speaker 2: long again, I'm gonna, oh God, pass away. But I
Speaker 2: mean we're still gonna cover it. Obviously and enjoy it
Speaker 2: because it's probably I don't know, I'm just fake psychic
Speaker 2: predicting it's probably gonna be the final season.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean after watching the trailer, which again
Speaker 1: we'll discuss on Patreon, but it kind of like looks
Speaker 1: up there sewing up the last of the issues, i e.
Speaker 1: Coyote Pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be shocked if we did another season
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know, but I just can't it's so much.
Speaker 1: So but we are gonna go right back into season
Speaker 1: seven of our rewinds, and then when Sister Wives come
Speaker 1: back for season twenty, we're going to pause. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, never ending, never entering Sister Wives. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna go right into it starting next
Speaker 1: week because there was a tell all after this episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just kind of like, we know that
Speaker 2: they're lying. We know it's Tameron Hall, which is she's great,
Speaker 2: but like we know that we're not gonna get her
Speaker 2: for very many tailaws after this, and it's just like, eh, Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is our last episod season six, and then
Speaker 1: next week we're gonna get right into season seven.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: But we also have Seeking Sister Wives coming up, girl,
Speaker 1: I know, and of September, we also have Special Forces.
Speaker 2: All at the end of September.
Speaker 1: You've seen any of the little clips that they're releasing
Speaker 1: for Special Forces, A little bit looks like Cody's in
Speaker 1: some sort of a face mask or a helmet, which
Speaker 1: I only know it's him because I can see his
Speaker 1: curly girl to tendrils. Yes, so it's coming and we
Speaker 1: are going to cover that at least until he eliminates himself,
Speaker 1: which I hear is after one episode I really hope.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then what else plaithfill still platfhil Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's four shows, girl, We're gonna have to figure it out.
Speaker 1: We will let you know what the schedule is going
Speaker 1: to look like, but that's what we're planning on diving
Speaker 1: into all of that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I got to watch Seeking Sister Wife
Speaker 2: because Garrick and also mister Unemployed with the three slash
Speaker 2: four wives or whatever you remember where he had all
Speaker 2: of them and they sleep in the same bed together.
Speaker 2: Oh the Denver Daddy, Yeah, all the thick white ladies.
Speaker 2: Lay Danielle is gone, the last the most bros. Yes, Okay, no, eyelashes, eyelashes, eyelashes. Yes,
Speaker 2: so she's gone, she's got them, and there's a new one.
Speaker 1: Oh god, there's a lot going on in Seeking Sister Weibes.
Speaker 1: I think we have to.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be a trade.
Speaker 1: Wrede and thloth feel is really lit on and pop
Speaker 1: in too. So anyway, again, we'll keep you posted and
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what's going on with that. But
Speaker 1: without further too, let's get into season six, episode nineteen
Speaker 1: of Sister Wives and Idol, the commitment celebration. Let's roll
Speaker 1: right through this.
Speaker 2: I'm bored, and it's just like in true brown fashion,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be chaotic or doing everything last minute.
Speaker 1: I didn't running around scrambling.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I didn't realize that, like with the
Speaker 2: dresses that they were getting custom made by that poor
Speaker 2: dress designer who's just like wanting to pull her hair out.
Speaker 2: They asked her like three weeks in advance, which is
Speaker 2: absolutely insane, to four dresses before this freaking commitment ceremony.
Speaker 2: And lo and behold, Mary's dress is not gonna work out.
Speaker 2: So she's got to go to some booty ass boutique
Speaker 2: and buy a freaking lime green girl dress.
Speaker 1: I know it was twenty fourteen. I know it was
Speaker 1: another moment in time in terms of fashion, But I
Speaker 1: don't know how Mary steps out and is in that
Speaker 1: drab lime green dress with like a little white bolero
Speaker 1: or whatever and a sash which accentuates her torso, her torso,
Speaker 1: all of her torso. But like she comes out, she
Speaker 1: looks in the mirror and her she's like, oh, a look,
Speaker 1: stunning girl.
Speaker 2: It was the most unflattering thing beautiful.
Speaker 1: It was horrible, so bad, but still better than the
Speaker 1: dress that Sam the designer was constructing. Poor beleaguered Sam
Speaker 1: just trying to try to turn something out for these ladies.
Speaker 2: And she had to bring her freaking mom to help Alfia,
Speaker 2: who was such a saint, and she was just trying
Speaker 2: to make something work. And Janelle's dress ended up looking
Speaker 2: pretty great. She looked really pretty.
Speaker 1: Janelle looked lovely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the dress kind of nipped in her waist,
Speaker 1: which is really looking good because she's been working out
Speaker 1: with that guy at the gym for like a year now,
Speaker 1: and I thought, like with the little fall extension she
Speaker 1: had with her eyes, I'm like, holy, she's pretty. You're ravishing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the collar on her was so gorgeous as well.
Speaker 2: I thought so too. I'm like, you like it. She's
Speaker 2: like a jewel towne is.
Speaker 1: That a jewel town? It is a jewel toe like,
Speaker 1: it's pretty. And remember like the hot pink dress that
Speaker 1: she wore to Christine's one of Christine's many engagement shindy
Speaker 1: egs like also kind of a beautiful jewel tone. She
Speaker 1: looked gorgeous then, and she looked gorgeous for the celebration.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Janelle's the only one that looked good here because
Speaker 2: Mary's dress is horrible. God, and then we have Christine's dress,
Speaker 2: the Renaissance Fair Empire waste, totally freaking burnt orange.
Speaker 1: A terrible color, a truly awful What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but she's being a good sport and
Speaker 1: at least it's a dress that Sam and Althea can
Speaker 1: complete before the celebration, even though it looks like dog
Speaker 1: shit horrible. It's really bad, but they're doing some last
Speaker 1: minute alterations and Christina is being really nice about it,
Speaker 1: and she does end up wearing it, which I'm personally shocked.
Speaker 2: She should have got a different dress. At the Booty
Speaker 2: Ass Boutique with Mary.
Speaker 1: But she did she did not.
Speaker 2: She thought she looked fine, I guess. And then we
Speaker 2: have Robin's dress that was also a train wreck that
Speaker 2: wasn't going to work out because it didn't fit her
Speaker 2: properly or whatever. And then luckily Robin has dress that'll
Speaker 2: work because it's like the day of the event or
Speaker 2: something like their day before. And Sam's like, this dress
Speaker 2: is not gonna work. You need to find an alternative.
Speaker 1: Or do you have anything in your my sister wife's
Speaker 1: closet that would suit this occasion, And Robin's like, as
Speaker 1: it turns out, actually do have a dress in the
Speaker 1: exact same color. Yeah, And then she goes and gets
Speaker 1: it and she puts it on, and I think it's matronly.
Speaker 1: I think she looks like a witch. But at least
Speaker 1: it works for the event.
Speaker 2: But it does like fit her properly. Yeah, It's like,
Speaker 2: did you go shopping.
Speaker 1: For that before? Of course she did.
Speaker 2: So It's just like, you make these other women look
Speaker 2: like fools getting these dresses designed that are just train wrecks, Like, really,
Speaker 2: Janelle's is the only one that's decent, And I feel
Speaker 2: bad for Sam. Because I feel like she tried really
Speaker 2: hard and she didn't have enough time.
Speaker 1: No, And I think she was working off the designs
Speaker 1: that were presented to her by the women, and they
Speaker 1: were terrible designs, and so she's doing the best she
Speaker 1: can with a shit sandwich. Did you note the scene
Speaker 1: where Janelle was getting her dress altered and Robin was
Speaker 1: in the kitchen and she's like, oh my god, Janelle,
Speaker 1: that makes you look really really thin. Yes, I did
Speaker 1: know that, which I felt was interesting. I think I
Speaker 1: want to give Robin the benefit of the doubt. I
Speaker 1: think in her own way, and circa twenty fourteen, she
Speaker 1: was trying to give a compliment while at the same
Speaker 1: time continuing to highlight the fact that Janelle has been
Speaker 1: struggling with her weight. But it was just also like
Speaker 1: a needless comment. You could have just said, wow, you
Speaker 1: look really beautiful. That looks lovely on you, but instead
Speaker 1: the thinnest wife is telling the biggest wife that she's
Speaker 1: looking really thin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like a mean girl comment.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit.
Speaker 2: Like the popular girl at high school is like.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it makes you look so skinny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt really rude to me.
Speaker 1: Well, I was hoping that it wasn't okay.
Speaker 2: I feel it, Robin the Witch, is we her whatever?
Speaker 2: Because even Janelle was just like oh okay, thanks, you know,
Speaker 2: because of just a couple episodes ago. Robin's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I only got an Excel T shirt for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna figure. That's basically what
Speaker 2: she's saying. Yeah, so yeah, I did note that. And
Speaker 2: did you note the scene when Mary was going shopping
Speaker 2: for addresses and Mary on the couch was talking about
Speaker 2: how she needed her best friend Andrea to come help her,
Speaker 2: and Christine's like, but we're supposed to be your best
Speaker 2: friends and then Mary like awkwardly laughs about like, well
Speaker 2: but you're not though, like I have Andrea. Yes, just
Speaker 2: highlighting how they're not liking each other right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And essentially Mary tells Christine because it's Christine who's
Speaker 1: kind of making a joke about not being invited or
Speaker 1: not being considered a best friend to Mary, like she's
Speaker 1: making a joke about it, but like Mary's like, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but like you don't want to shop and you don't
Speaker 1: want to go with me, so oh that's why I'm
Speaker 1: taking an actual friend, and I think it's great that
Speaker 1: I have friends, yea, because none of you bitches actually
Speaker 1: like me, nor do you Cody.
Speaker 2: But it's like, I'm kind of watching these older seasons
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Mary, you're kind of mean, though a
Speaker 2: little bit like you kind of oust everybody else except
Speaker 2: for Robin in these earlier seasons, Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I feel like Christine was also making a little bit
Speaker 2: of a job being like, but where's supposed to be
Speaker 2: your friends? I don't know. It just shows that even
Speaker 2: at this time, the wives are not really liking each other.
Speaker 2: I think the sole reason is because Robin's stealing Cody
Speaker 2: from everybody, so they're all bitter and coming after each other.
Speaker 1: But except for Janelle, she seems just fine.
Speaker 2: Janelle's in her Renaissance era.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I do think that Mary, you really notice
Speaker 1: starting season five and season six that her walls really
Speaker 1: are up, Like she's talking a lot about where she
Speaker 1: fits in the family and now that Leon's out of
Speaker 1: the house, like where does that leave me? But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you don't really see that contrasted with
Speaker 1: attempts by Mary to be friends with this women. Yes,
Speaker 1: they went to San Francisco, and yes it was a contrived,
Speaker 1: produced event, but like we don't really see them hanging out.
Speaker 1: We see Mary in like the periphery of Robin's life,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily Robin in the periphery of Mary's life,
Speaker 1: so like she's not trying, she's not doing anything. And
Speaker 1: even at the end of this episode, not to jump ahead,
Speaker 1: although this episode sucked, but I mean, they end the
Speaker 1: episode saying this was great and all, we have the celebration,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean the work is done. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we're all fixed and we're in the Call to
Speaker 1: Sac and everything's going to be great, And they seem
Speaker 1: to acknowledge like there's a lot that they still have
Speaker 1: to do. You can see it in Mary, and you
Speaker 1: can see it in Christine's joke about not being her
Speaker 1: best friend.
Speaker 2: Definitely eloquently put. And then we I mean, the whole
Speaker 2: episode is like just preparing for the commitment ceremony, and
Speaker 2: it's just kind of like chaotic because the Browns do
Speaker 2: everything last minute. He is trying to hang up lights
Speaker 2: in the cul de sac and he's failing because he's
Speaker 2: not a Roman.
Speaker 1: Well, but he's also getting angry about it and it's
Speaker 1: like he wants to have these big events and he
Speaker 1: wants to show himself as like the patriarch who's coordinating everything,
Speaker 1: and he's moving things around and he's taking care of
Speaker 1: all of it. But at the same time he can't
Speaker 1: handle it. And so just stringing the lights from each
Speaker 1: of the four houses in the call de sac to
Speaker 1: like this center point is stressing him out to such
Speaker 1: a degree that he's snapping at his wives. Ye by
Speaker 1: the time we even get to the celebration, he's like
Speaker 1: over the top. He's having a terrible time during their pictures,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to. And it ends up like his
Speaker 1: younger brother Michael comes and finishes the lights for him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, say, why why have we been doing this
Speaker 1: for all of these days? Why did we need the
Speaker 1: lights in the first place, in the middle of the
Speaker 1: cul de sac when there were so many other things.
Speaker 1: You've got Grandma's here, bonnies here, You've got Mary, You've
Speaker 1: got her sister. They're making all this food, there's all
Speaker 1: of the tables and decorations, but like you are setting
Speaker 1: yourself apart from all of that to do this other
Speaker 1: project so you don't have to help exact you're still
Speaker 1: getting pissed off at everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's like this whole celebration is just too much.
Speaker 2: Like you have seven hundred servings of food that you
Speaker 2: have to make, that the wives have to make and
Speaker 2: the grandmas have to make, and then all this furniture
Speaker 2: being delivered, and then the lights, and then the photos,
Speaker 2: and then the phallic cake and then the stupid dresses
Speaker 2: and the sad ceremony. It's just like way too much.
Speaker 2: And it's all for an image. It's all for the season.
Speaker 2: It's it's a season finale of just like, look, we're
Speaker 2: committing each committing to each other and to our family,
Speaker 2: but we're hating each other at the same time. It's
Speaker 2: just like it's all a narcissistic display. I think on
Speaker 2: Cody's part to be like, yeah, I'm keeping it together,
Speaker 2: but we know that he's not. Like behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: shit's crumbling. And even in his mood him getting all
Speaker 2: angry about the fucking lights, it's like, chill out.
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal, and it didn't even need
Speaker 1: to do it in the first place. But it's like
Speaker 1: when they would take their big road trips, like when
Speaker 1: they went to that Nauvoo or whatever in Illinois, Like
Speaker 1: he was just getting progressively more and more upset. Although
Speaker 1: wasn't this your idea. Wasn't it Mary who organized the
Speaker 1: road trip in the first place, And wasn't it you
Speaker 1: that blew the timeline? But like you're getting mad, You're
Speaker 1: snapping at people. It's like, why do you do this
Speaker 1: all the time? And this just kind of illustrates to
Speaker 1: me as we close out this particular season that he
Speaker 1: loves to tell us how much he loves his family,
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to actually babysitting that babysitting,
Speaker 1: but watching your child truly who's got a kidney infection
Speaker 1: while your wives are in San Francisco, When it comes
Speaker 1: down to just being present while you're having this celebration
Speaker 1: that you've been talking about for the entire season, Like
Speaker 1: you're not actually there, You don't actually love these kids
Speaker 1: who are showing up and doing the best that they can,
Speaker 1: Like you're telling them that they're going to be exiled
Speaker 1: from the family if they act out on celebration day.
Speaker 1: This is who you are.
Speaker 2: It's crazy making dude, I just I couldn't deal with it. Honestly,
Speaker 2: the whole episode kind of stressed me out. It was boring,
Speaker 2: but it stressed me out just with all of the
Speaker 2: planning of everything. It kind of reminded me of how
Speaker 2: my family does things, because growing up, my mom would
Speaker 2: always want to do these like big, grandiose like celebrations
Speaker 2: and stuff. And for my mom, it kind of came
Speaker 2: from a good place, just like wanting to give us
Speaker 2: like a good experience and everything, but it always stressed
Speaker 2: her out and she would get agitated and she would
Speaker 2: snap at us. She wouldn't tell us we were exiled
Speaker 2: from the family, but like she would get fucking annoyed
Speaker 2: with us when she's trying to prepare everything, and she
Speaker 2: would take on so much pressure to be like perfect
Speaker 2: and to appear perfect and to put on this display
Speaker 2: for everybody else. And I'm like, why it cares Like
Speaker 2: we're just a family, we don't need to do this.
Speaker 2: It's like I kind of felt how the older kids
Speaker 2: were feeling, like what was it last episode when they're like,
Speaker 2: this whole celebration is just for our parents, Like we
Speaker 2: don't really care.
Speaker 1: We're fad for the parents, it's for the people who
Speaker 1: are showing up, and it's for us the audience. So
Speaker 1: that they can try to convince us that they are
Speaker 1: one working, functioning, happy family, which they are not. Right
Speaker 1: and also it's because they have to create contents that
Speaker 1: they continue to have this show. And it was actually
Speaker 1: having me wonder as I was watching this, because I
Speaker 1: did peak at season seven there's only eight episodes versus
Speaker 1: this is the nineteenth episode of season six, and I'm
Speaker 1: wondering when Cody heard from TLC and production that they
Speaker 1: may be canceling the show, and then the lore is
Speaker 1: that Cody negotiated to take a huge pay cut and
Speaker 1: get a lot less in order to continue with the show.
Speaker 1: When was that, Like what year was that was it
Speaker 1: around this time? I'm just I'm kind of wondering.
Speaker 2: That would be kind of an interesting theory because maybe
Speaker 2: that's why they plan to do this big thing because
Speaker 2: he thought it would be like really good content and
Speaker 2: it would keep him on the show, Like just film
Speaker 2: me doing a bunch of random bullshit in my cul
Speaker 2: de sac and like keep me on the show DLC.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, like what the audience was thinking at
Speaker 1: this time. And I know that there are some people
Speaker 1: who listen and who watch who absolutely were watching from
Speaker 1: season one, Like, what was the consensus in the audience.
Speaker 1: Were people already onto them? Were people still thinking like, wow, polygamy,
Speaker 1: they're just like us? Or could they they could they
Speaker 1: feel the undertones? Could they sense that there was a
Speaker 1: lot more going on? And was that why they continued
Speaker 1: to watch. I'm just curious. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like this was so boring, so contrived, and
Speaker 1: like the endless ceremonial, the sand thing, the tree thing,
Speaker 1: the kids with their gratitude roses, the jewelry that Robin made.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are we why are we doing thing?
Speaker 2: And like doing it for a bunch of guests and
Speaker 2: stuff that we never end up seeing ever again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't matter at all, Like, let's just get
Speaker 2: to the whole commitment ceremony, because everybody's getting everybody's rest
Speaker 2: in their Sunday best. We have all of the well
Speaker 2: I mean in their version of the Browns, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: we have furniture being delivered.
Speaker 1: We have the cake.
Speaker 2: We have all the food that the wives made and
Speaker 2: prepared for everybody everyone shows up, all the guests. We
Speaker 2: have Robin's beautiful, big backyard that was Redone for this
Speaker 2: whole ceremony, and I'm looking at it and I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1: Multiple thousands of dollars damn went into whatever they did
Speaker 1: in that backyard. So are we sure that that was
Speaker 1: her backyard? Because again they keep referring it to our backyard.
Speaker 1: So is it like the shared space between Robin and
Speaker 1: Mary or was that all just in Robin's backyard for
Speaker 1: her home and for the value of her home.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was watching this and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell whose house it was, so I don't
Speaker 2: know if like the fans snooped it out and found
Speaker 2: out that it was Robin's backyard. And that's maybe why
Speaker 2: they didn't say whose house it was, because they didn't
Speaker 2: want people to know, Like they didn't want the fans
Speaker 2: to know at the time that it was Robin's backyard
Speaker 2: that got to be Redone. But I'm just like, looking
Speaker 2: at it the aerial view of how big it was
Speaker 2: and all the fake grass and everything, I'm like, dang, dude,
Speaker 2: that was a lot of money and landscaping. And I
Speaker 2: was thinking about the whole ceremony, right because remember when
Speaker 2: they were going cake shopping and Cody was talking about
Speaker 2: his big phallic cake dream, and Janelle was like worried
Speaker 2: about how expensive it was going to because it was
Speaker 2: gonna be eighty five hundred dollars. But then I'm looking
Speaker 2: at all of the money that they spent on this
Speaker 2: stupid party, and I'm like, you spent way more than that,
Speaker 2: and you weren't worried about that.
Speaker 1: Right, And you just know that if it did go
Speaker 1: into Robin's backyard, or even if it was Janelle's or
Speaker 1: Mary's or Christine's, the other wives would have had an
Speaker 1: issue with that. Yeah, they would have said, well, this
Speaker 1: is bettering that home. It's going to add to the
Speaker 1: value and the ultimate equity of that home. How Robin
Speaker 1: gets the full benefit of that, but I don't. So
Speaker 1: you just know that that's a conversation that they would
Speaker 1: have had. But like TLC is already on the fuck
Speaker 1: shit with not like divulging what those conversations are. And
Speaker 1: when we compare that with what is currently happening on
Speaker 1: Platfill and all the conversations that are taking place, for
Speaker 1: better or for worse, it's just like, I just wish
Speaker 1: that they would have had the foresight to film some
Speaker 1: of that and be honest, because that would have been
Speaker 1: really great information to hear instead of focusing on the
Speaker 1: sun ceremony and how Robin designed these booty ass trees
Speaker 1: of life for the cuffs and the bracelets, like nobody
Speaker 1: actually cares you, basic, bit Sorry, that's so bad. I'm sorry. Serious,
Speaker 1: it's the truth, basic, and.
Speaker 2: That's it's all about the appearances. It's all about like, no,
Speaker 2: we're a happy family. No, we have no problems. No,
Speaker 2: we love each other. We're imperfect like every other family,
Speaker 2: but we're doing great. We have the family focus, like
Speaker 2: we're we're working on it, we're in therapy. And it's like,
Speaker 2: but you're not. Though there's obviously like a huge disparity
Speaker 2: right from the get go, right from the beginning, and
Speaker 2: it's because of Robin. It's just like crazy making to
Speaker 2: watch this and Robin's booty ass jewelry, those cuffs that
Speaker 2: she made, so everybody, I'm like, what is this? Who
Speaker 2: would actually wear that? I thought she made like cuff
Speaker 2: links or something. No, it was a giant faux leather
Speaker 2: bracelet with a little tree of life on it. And
Speaker 2: then I'm like how much money did that cost?
Speaker 1: And did they end up marketing that on the website
Speaker 1: from my sister wife's closet. Did they try and sell
Speaker 1: that as a product? How much were they selling it for?
Speaker 1: Like I just wasn't tuned in back then, yeah, to
Speaker 1: kind of ask those questions. But yeah, like it was
Speaker 1: all it was all cringe worthy, super much opinion.
Speaker 2: And then when they have the family photos yea, and
Speaker 2: Cody has his whole fucking meltdown because they do like
Speaker 2: individual family photos and I don't know if they were
Speaker 2: doing photos of like each kid, no, no, just just
Speaker 2: just family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, him with his wife, a specific wife and their kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when they get to the actual group photo,
Speaker 2: Cody is like like on his wits end freaking out
Speaker 2: because he's tired of smiling for the camera, and so
Speaker 2: they're trying to gather all of the people together for
Speaker 2: this one giant photo. And this is where we have
Speaker 2: Cody like yelling for everybody to look down the lens
Speaker 2: and then he has that weird, creepy like like demon
Speaker 2: shake or something, and.
Speaker 1: Then right and the smile.
Speaker 2: My god, what a freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess that's to communicate that he's really stressed out.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, your kids are hip, Your kids are behaving.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just kids. They're doing what kids do.
Speaker 1: Pid they're actually being well behaved in this moment, it's
Speaker 1: you that's stressed out. It's you that seems to be
Speaker 1: annoyed and bothered by your very normal family.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like, how old are you at this point?
Speaker 2: You're in your forties, Like learn to emotionally regulate, Like,
Speaker 2: why are you freaking out like this over just some photos?
Speaker 2: Maybe it was hot, I don't know, but I'm just like,
Speaker 2: you're a freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're weird.
Speaker 2: And it just to me, like I said last week,
Speaker 2: is just a window into how Cody actually is off camera.
Speaker 2: He's probably not that nice of a dad. I know
Speaker 2: I've probably said this on the pod before that. Oh,
Speaker 2: it looked like Cody might have been a good dad
Speaker 2: to the kids in the earlier seasons, and now I'm
Speaker 2: kind of like, I don't know, he might have been
Speaker 2: a little angry. You might have yelled at them too much.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what he was like.
Speaker 1: But well, I think that we can see multiple aspects
Speaker 1: of Cody, Like I can see in these earlier seasons
Speaker 1: that he was present sometimes with his kids, that he
Speaker 1: did love his kids, Like when he was walking around
Speaker 1: to each of the children before they made their entrance
Speaker 1: into the party, He's telling the littles that they look gorgeous.
Speaker 1: He's calling out each of his children and saying, you
Speaker 1: look really fly in that suit, like he's trying to
Speaker 1: give them a pep talk. And I just I thought
Speaker 1: that was a nice aspect of Cody. But from where
Speaker 1: we're sitting in twenty twenty five, like these negative aspects
Speaker 1: and atropy that are showing themselves in these earlier seasons,
Speaker 1: especially as we progress, you can really see how they
Speaker 1: have crystallized into this person that he is currently, Like
Speaker 1: this angry, small, little narcissistic man. You can see like
Speaker 1: twinges of that here in this episode. And then just
Speaker 1: to know that he indulges that from that point on,
Speaker 1: he allows himself to feel that more and more and
Speaker 1: more and to place himself in that position of authority
Speaker 1: and importance so that he then feels entitled to mistreat
Speaker 1: his other wives and ultimately his children. Like how that
Speaker 1: progress actually happens. You can see glimpses here, little glimpses,
Speaker 1: but like the man he has become, what a shame.
Speaker 2: Honestly a disgrace. And even in the moments when he
Speaker 2: was telling his kids that they were beautiful, I just
Speaker 2: felt was like just a response to how he was
Speaker 2: appeared on the camera or how he appeared on the camera,
Speaker 2: like it was just him love bombing his kids, like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I actually love you, and I don't want to exile
Speaker 2: you from the family. Sorry for yelling at you on
Speaker 2: national television like a fucking crazy person. You're beautiful though,
Speaker 2: Yeah you're gorgeous, nice dress, yeah, handsome, Just crazy. And
Speaker 2: then the whole stand ceremony thing, like again, I talked
Speaker 2: about that last week. It's cursed because I did my
Speaker 2: my family did that, and now we don't talk to
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 2: And they did it, and now they don't die to
Speaker 2: each other. And then the signing of the mission statement
Speaker 2: was just so cringe.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care either, And furthermore, I
Speaker 1: don't think they care.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I know Janelle doesn't care, I know Mary is uninterested.
Speaker 1: I know those kids don't care. Like nobody cares. And
Speaker 1: in four or five years time, you're all gonna be
Speaker 1: exploding as a family.
Speaker 2: Just crazy making. And then we have the kids though
Speaker 2: that was kind of sweet where they had this little
Speaker 2: surprise for the family to basically show the parents that
Speaker 2: they actually did care about the ceremony a little bit.
Speaker 2: And so they have each one of the kids say
Speaker 2: what they're grateful for for their family.
Speaker 1: Which was nice. And I liked watching Hunter on the
Speaker 1: couch with the rest of the older kids, and he's
Speaker 1: talking about how it is really wonderful that they're all
Speaker 1: in proximity to one another, they're in this cul de sac,
Speaker 1: they're back together again, and that this celebration for him
Speaker 1: really does symbolize like we're getting it back on track,
Speaker 1: like we're a family again. And I feel sad, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't actually end up coming to fruition, but
Speaker 1: you can see that the kids actually are hopeful and
Speaker 1: they're glad and they're playing with each other, and it's sad.
Speaker 2: It's really sad, and it's like crazy to see how
Speaker 2: much the separation really did affect the entire family. Like
Speaker 2: they don't talk about it too too much, but every
Speaker 2: once in a while they'll make a comment about like
Speaker 2: how when they were in their rentals, like their family
Speaker 2: really suffered and really struggled and really broke and now
Speaker 2: they're in the cul de Sac and so they're really
Speaker 2: working on things, like it did a lot of damage
Speaker 2: to be separated just for two years for such a
Speaker 2: cohesive family unit and everything. And then now that they're
Speaker 2: in the coulda Sag things will be okay for a
Speaker 2: little and then they go back to flag stuff again separated,
Speaker 2: and then that's ultimately what breaks up the entire family.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Just crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, when they're talking about getting back together, what
Speaker 1: they're trying to recapture is Lehigh, yes, because the last
Speaker 1: time these kids were together, that's what it was, yep,
Speaker 1: you know. And then the cameras came, and then fame
Speaker 1: came and they moved to Vegas and they had the
Speaker 1: rentals and so in their little childlike spirits, they're hoping
Speaker 1: that this is them coming back to what they had
Speaker 1: in Lehigh. And that's what makes it really tragic to me,
Speaker 1: is because the cameras changed Cody, yep, and the money
Speaker 1: changed Cody and Rob and everything has been changed as
Speaker 1: soon as those cameras went up, as soon as they
Speaker 1: relocated and left their way of life like it was
Speaker 1: never ever going to be the same. And you know,
Speaker 1: like as a child as you get older and then
Speaker 1: you leave, maybe go to university or you get your
Speaker 1: first apartment or whatever. But it kind of strikes you
Speaker 1: that first Christmas or whatever, or that first year that
Speaker 1: you're away, like it's never going to be what it
Speaker 1: was before, right, And there's something so lonesome about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yet in this snapshot, this moment with Hunter on
Speaker 1: the couch, he's like, we're back together and it's awesome,
Speaker 1: it's going to be great, and he really is grateful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but twenty twenty five, I think he hates his dad.
Speaker 1: Oh I would, and I don't blame him at all.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if I was one of these older kids,
Speaker 2: I would be so fucking resentful.
Speaker 1: You sold me a dream, Dad. You told me that
Speaker 1: we were a certain kind of family.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: You told me that you loved us.
Speaker 2: What happened, and you raised us all as we were siblings.
Speaker 2: And like all of the siblings do keep their relationships.
Speaker 2: It seems like for the most part, you know, there's
Speaker 2: some that don't talk to each other or whatever, but like,
Speaker 2: for the most part, they're all still a family. But
Speaker 2: to have their dad and to watch their dad just
Speaker 2: like slowly walk away from them all and like slowly
Speaker 2: abandon them all for Robin and her kids.
Speaker 1: After subjecting them to this endless parade of things like
Speaker 1: the commitment ceremony. Yes, these symbols of what a family
Speaker 1: should be, while underneath all of those symbols there's nothing.
Speaker 1: There's you spending all your time with Robin. There's you
Speaker 1: neglecting them and hurting their mothers. You know, it's like, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's a mind fuck. It would have had to been
Speaker 1: such a mind.
Speaker 2: Fuck, definitely. So it's just really weird and sad to
Speaker 2: watch this commitment ceremony because we know that it's all bullshit.
Speaker 2: You know that it turns to shit in just a
Speaker 2: few years.
Speaker 1: And it feels in this moment like they're performing. It
Speaker 1: feels this moment like is any of this real?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you have Robin. As she's reading her
Speaker 1: portion of the mission statement, she can hardly get through,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I get emotional when I talk, like
Speaker 1: it's just I'm like, you're performing. Yes, It's like I
Speaker 1: don't buy.
Speaker 2: It, no, and I don't think anybody does. I don't
Speaker 2: think the viewers bought it even back then, because I
Speaker 2: don't know if I was watching this I would never
Speaker 2: have believed Robin from the get go. Okay, she's been
Speaker 2: a snake in my opinion. But like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: if you wanted to like commit to the family again
Speaker 2: and you wanted to do something to like celebrate all
Speaker 2: of your love and like be together, you could have
Speaker 2: taken like a big family trip and could have like
Speaker 2: camped out on the beach or something and like made
Speaker 2: it a really cool, like family centered trip, or I
Speaker 2: don't know, just get together and it didn't have to
Speaker 2: be produced with all the furniture and the dresses and
Speaker 2: the phallic cake and the decoration.
Speaker 1: The witnesses, yes, the people showing up to celebrate you.
Speaker 2: Right, it didn't need to be that. It could have
Speaker 2: just been a giant family get together or like a
Speaker 2: big barbecue in the middle of the cul de sac
Speaker 2: where everybody's just like playing around and we all hang
Speaker 2: out together. You could have rented a big family house
Speaker 2: where you all stayed together, kind of like the Christmas
Speaker 2: that they.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that first Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you could have done something like that and
Speaker 2: it would have been so much more meaningful and authentic.
Speaker 2: But instead you put on this stupid display with the
Speaker 2: mission statement and the sand ceremony to try and convince
Speaker 2: the audience that you love each other when we know
Speaker 2: you don't or.
Speaker 1: They're starting not to. Yeah, it's all falling apart, it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so thus concludes season six. There was a lot
Speaker 1: going on. I mean here again, this was like the
Speaker 1: nineteenth episode. I think in season six we went to Sadonah. Yes,
Speaker 1: like we've had therapy with Nancy, the baby talk. We've
Speaker 1: had a lot that we've had to go through. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get to season seven. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to get to Leon being awful to marry. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what season that is. That's the Catfish and or after.
Speaker 1: I am dying to get to the Cabish Bitch. So like,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep going. Yeah, we're gonna keep covering
Speaker 1: these rewinds, and we thank you guys for joining us. Now, Beatrice,
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