Speaker 1: Go cunning into Great America. Let's continue. We never stop,
Speaker 1: we never hesitate, We simply continue. As you may know,
Speaker 1: NewsBusters dot Org is a site put together by Brent
Speaker 1: Bozell and some others to identify media bias by objective proof,
Speaker 1: not hyperbole. I'm not Jeff Bezos. Sometimes I wish I
Speaker 1: was Jeff Bezos, who owns a Washington Post, who says
Speaker 1: the media cannot be believed anymore. He's the media. He
Speaker 1: says we're not impartial and that we have to get
Speaker 1: back our reputation. About nineteen percent of the American people
Speaker 1: consider PBS, NBC, ABCCBS to be objective. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that nineteen percent. They're not paying attention, but nonetheless
Speaker 1: joining you and I now is Curtis Holk is one
Speaker 1: of the editors of NewsBusters dot org. And Curtis, first
Speaker 1: of all, you put up a finding a few days ago,
Speaker 1: and what your group does is record everything on PBS,
Speaker 1: NBCABC and CBS, and then you determine whether it's pro
Speaker 1: or anti Harris, pro or anti Trump. So, first of all,
Speaker 1: tell the American people the formula you use and the
Speaker 1: results of your study.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So Bill I'll always pleasure to be
Speaker 2: with you what we do when we look at these studies,
Speaker 2: these percentage positive and negative studies. Folks need to always
Speaker 2: keep in mind that what we're doing is most often
Speaker 2: the network evening newscast of the ABCCBS NBC that typically
Speaker 2: air at six thirty pm Eastern, give or take to
Speaker 2: an hour, depending on what time zone you're in, and
Speaker 2: we simply strip out all sound bites from the candidates themselves,
Speaker 2: whichever candidate we're talking about, supporters of theirs in an
Speaker 2: elected capacity, or campaign advisors, and so we solely look
Speaker 2: at what are the anchors and what are the correspondents
Speaker 2: telling us, what are they saying, And we take each sentence,
Speaker 2: each statement, and evaluate it positive or negative. And that's
Speaker 2: how we get to the formula that we have now
Speaker 2: with our latest study finding that since Joe Biden dropped
Speaker 2: out of the presidential race and was replaced by Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: Trump coverage has been eighty five percent negative and Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris covered seventy eight percent positive. Now, I will tell
Speaker 2: you that the numbers are far higher or lower depending
Speaker 2: on which network you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I can tell from a fact.
Speaker 2: That ABC is well into the nineties in terms of
Speaker 2: Harris's positive ratings. So with the other two networks, you
Speaker 2: can tell that they're kind of about their CBS or NBC,
Speaker 2: I can't remember which is right about there, and the
Speaker 2: others a little bit lower than seventy eight percent positive.
Speaker 2: So hence how we get that kind of number in
Speaker 2: the middle. But the most important takeaway from all of
Speaker 2: this is that is a greater coverage disparity than what
Speaker 2: we saw the previous two presidential elections when we were
Speaker 2: doing the study. The difference between the two candidates is
Speaker 2: greater than what we saw in twenty sixteen with Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton and Donald Trump in as well as twenty twenty
Speaker 2: with Joe Biden and Donald Trump as well. And this
Speaker 2: goes to show the media feel that they need to
Speaker 2: put their thumb on the scale to help com Harris
Speaker 2: because by all, for all intents and purposes, she has
Speaker 2: no policy. She is a willing empty suit. Whereas Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: based on his lack of mental faculties, didn't.
Speaker 3: Know where he was, so he was similarly an empty suit.
Speaker 3: But Kamala Harris is a willing empty suit.
Speaker 1: Well, deal with the garbage comment of Joe Biden at
Speaker 1: the end the White House during the Eclipse Ellips Get
Speaker 1: Together by Kamala Harris. But going back in time, I
Speaker 1: can vaguely recall that in twenty sixteen, it was roughly
Speaker 1: sixty forty sixty percent positive for Hillary and it was
Speaker 1: forty percent positive for Trump. Went back and forth because
Speaker 1: he was a relatively new figure on the political scene.
Speaker 1: But since that time, in the last gosh eight years,
Speaker 1: the ABC NBCCBS has gone completely left wing. There's no
Speaker 1: pretense of objectivity. And my source for that is not
Speaker 1: just you at NewsBusters, but also Jeff Bezos, who runs
Speaker 1: the most dominant paper in the East Coast, which is
Speaker 1: the Washington Post. He himself has said, and still at
Speaker 1: Washington boasts, we're not objective, We're not fair. And this
Speaker 1: has got to stop causing some sort of revolt. And
Speaker 1: so if someone like a Tony Bender, who might live
Speaker 1: in Green Township, say, you know what, I work all day.
Speaker 1: I got dirt under my fingernails, I take a lunch
Speaker 1: pail to work. My wife's dealing with the kids, going
Speaker 1: to PTA meetings. She works. Also. We get a home
Speaker 1: at six o'clock, we want to PLoP in front of
Speaker 1: the TV set and have a blooney sandwich, hopefully a
Speaker 1: fried Boloney sandwich would toast and maybe some cream cheese,
Speaker 1: which I love. But I regress a little bit, and
Speaker 1: he says, why don't we check in with ABC, NBC
Speaker 1: or CBS and see, all right, what happened in the
Speaker 1: world when I was doing my jobs. And they sit
Speaker 1: down and they watch either David Muir, they watch Lester Holt,
Speaker 1: they watch CBS, and then they get a glimpse of
Speaker 1: what's happening in the country. And I saw a result,
Speaker 1: maybe it was on Gallop that if you mainly get
Speaker 1: your news from NBC, CBS and ABC the night news mainly,
Speaker 1: that's your source, and maybe read a big city newspaper.
Speaker 1: Of those people, sixty five percent are going to vote
Speaker 1: for Kamala Harris because they're the worldview is that's what's
Speaker 1: happening in the world, and they think it's objective. Is
Speaker 1: that the real harm caused by this left wing bias
Speaker 1: of CBS, NBC and AB because it has real life
Speaker 1: consequences that the hard work and schmucks out there that
Speaker 1: simply do their job, raise their kids, go to church
Speaker 1: and the volunteer and they coach the girls soccer team,
Speaker 1: they coach their boys of baseball, and they live their
Speaker 1: life and they sit down hoping you an impartial and
Speaker 1: they don't get that. Is that the problem?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely say that, especially because we're dealing
Speaker 2: with an election that is so close or you know,
Speaker 2: by all intensive purposes, by all the polling that we've seen,
Speaker 2: it sure intends to be one of the closest elections,
Speaker 2: if not the closest in American history. It very well
Speaker 2: could be. And so that's why we think while fewer
Speaker 2: and fewer people watch the network evening newscasts than they
Speaker 2: used to when it used to be tens and tens
Speaker 2: and tens of millions of Americans that would tune in
Speaker 2: every night to watch Walker, cronkider Peter Jennings back in
Speaker 2: the day, the newscast still pull in more viewers than any.
Speaker 3: Show on cable.
Speaker 2: So while the web chatter may be about something stupid
Speaker 2: on CNN or lefties melting down about a Jesse Waters monologue,
Speaker 2: more people are still watching David Muore. Sometimes on big
Speaker 2: news nights, they can get close to ten million viewers
Speaker 2: on World News Tonight, which unfortunately is the most watched
Speaker 2: newscast of the three and.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you too.
Speaker 2: One other finding from our study is since the debate,
Speaker 2: three hundred ninety eight minutes have been spent on Donald
Speaker 2: Trump versus two hundred and thirty minutes on Kamala Harrison.
Speaker 3: The reason for that.
Speaker 2: Is they the media have decided, if we flood the
Speaker 2: zone with Donald Trump, we drive up Trump's negatives, and
Speaker 2: so we create a scenario where the American people, voters
Speaker 2: on the fence, or people who least may not be
Speaker 2: comfortable with Trump personally, will feel they have no choice
Speaker 2: but to vote for Kamala Harris, regardless of the fact
Speaker 2: that they spend very little time talking about her actual policies.
Speaker 2: And so that's kind of mean. He's thinking, if they
Speaker 2: flood the zone with Trump and they try to scare
Speaker 2: people with Trump, and they try to scare their base,
Speaker 2: this will result in a Kamala landslide. Hence what we
Speaker 2: saw with the January sixth speech last night with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: It was for one group of people of fluent white.
Speaker 1: Liberals, and what happened. I like these numbers. A lot
Speaker 1: of people deal with the poetry. I deal with facts.
Speaker 1: So since the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: There was three hundred and ninety eight minutes of the
Speaker 1: nightly news about Trump. Of that number, at least eighty
Speaker 1: five percent was negative, and two hundred and thirty minutes
Speaker 1: on Kamala Harris, and that was seventy eight percent positive.
Speaker 1: And so you can't come away with the idea that, okay,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is anything other than a fascist, a racist,
Speaker 1: a homophobic, misogynist, and a Nazi. And the Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: is simply from the middle class doing a great job
Speaker 1: trying to work out kitchen table issues. If you don't read,
Speaker 1: if you don't understand, if you don't go to a podcast,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not online, you don't listen to talk radio,
Speaker 1: those are your impressions. Now let's get on to Garbage
Speaker 1: Saturday night, Madison Square Garden. The event took place over
Speaker 1: eight hours, and in those and ours there was at
Speaker 1: least nineteen speakers, And there was a comedian whose name
Speaker 1: eludes me, who made a reference to Puerto Rico being garbage.
Speaker 1: There's a pile of garbage in the ocean that's called
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. John Stewart, not exactly one of my favorite people.
Speaker 1: On Comedy Central, John Stewart said, that's fine with him.
Speaker 1: He supports his name Hitchcliffe or something like that. That's fine.
Speaker 1: It's comedy. Used to have Eddie Murphy and others. Chris
Speaker 1: Rock would do college tours and crap on every ethnic
Speaker 1: minority imaginable, including we Irish Americans, and you kind of
Speaker 1: sit back and laughing, snicker ever a Don Rickles thing.
Speaker 1: But that was one comment, one joke, five hours before
Speaker 1: Trump even appeared at Madison Square Garden. And for three
Speaker 1: or four days thereafter, every newscast led with Donald Trump
Speaker 1: trying to recover from the comments at one of his rallies.
Speaker 1: But last night, while the Ellipse speech is going on,
Speaker 1: there's the president. People may not be aware of this,
Speaker 1: but we have a president. His name is Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who's doing a Spanish language broadcast. And let's face it,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden can't speak the English language, much less the
Speaker 1: Spanish language. Nonetheless, he called Trump supporters garbage, as as
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was talking about unity, getting everybody back together,
Speaker 1: and here's the president one thousand feet away from the
Speaker 1: Ellipse in the White House calling Trump supporters garbage. I'm
Speaker 1: watching clean up on Aisle seven. I'm watching this morning
Speaker 1: of Mika, Zeka Brazinski and others ignoring it completely, and
Speaker 1: of course Fox News is playing it. Isn't it amazing
Speaker 1: that when a comedian in a joke refers to Puerto
Speaker 1: Ricans as garbage, it leads the national news for three
Speaker 1: or four days. However, when when the President of the
Speaker 1: United States in real time calls Americans garbage, no big deal.
Speaker 1: That's no big deal. Can you smell when I'm cocing
Speaker 1: Curtis out?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, my friend Scott Jennings has correctly pointed out that,
Speaker 2: first of all, regardless of what Joe Biden said, why
Speaker 2: in the world was he on a zoom call with
Speaker 2: a major Democratic advocacy group while Kamala Harrison was giving
Speaker 2: a speech literally in his backyard?
Speaker 1: Literally what what what are you doing?
Speaker 2: What do you if you're not undermining her? I have
Speaker 2: some serious questions about your basic, your team's basic competency.
Speaker 2: So you make that clear first, and and then you
Speaker 2: move on to his comments.
Speaker 3: The fact that we're debating.
Speaker 2: The use of an apostrophe that Andrew baits crazy. Andrew
Speaker 2: Bates came up with in the White House spin room
Speaker 2: that KJP came up with, uh, means you're losing if
Speaker 2: you're having to say, well, he didn't mean, there's an
Speaker 2: apostrophe or he has a stutter. Oh my gosh, but
Speaker 2: you have a couple of strategies here. Number one, ABC's
Speaker 2: Good Morning America on Wednesday morning decided to spend more
Speaker 2: time engaging in what aboutism with this comedian who, by
Speaker 2: the way, again we're making it seem like the a
Speaker 2: random comedian who had a flop of a routine is
Speaker 2: somehow more powerful than the outgoing president of United States. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's an outgoing president, but he's still the president. They
Speaker 2: spent a minute and well over a minute, almost two minutes,
Speaker 2: one minute and fifty nine seconds engaging in what aboutism
Speaker 2: with this comedian, but only one minute in four seconds
Speaker 2: on Biden's actual comments. And of course they're using the
Speaker 2: word cees bill. Of course, we you know Republicans are using.
Speaker 3: On this thing. But insad he didn't mean it. I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, what a joke?
Speaker 1: Tell you why?
Speaker 2: That's the thing about the Post, the Washington Post, real quick,
Speaker 2: I should say that they lost seventy seven million dollars
Speaker 2: last year. Okay, because people don't listen to them. This
Speaker 2: is the same thing happening these news divisions of these
Speaker 2: corporate behemis Comcast, NBC, CBS is just being sold to
Speaker 2: a new company, and ABC with Disney. They are not
Speaker 2: moneymakers and that's for a reason.
Speaker 1: Well, I can only imagine if the shoe was on
Speaker 1: the other foot what the media coverage would be. Also,
Speaker 1: you have a posting of this afternoon NewsBusters dot org
Speaker 1: that talks about literally iconic moment on the ellipse Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris's elip speech compared to I Have a Dream and
Speaker 1: possibly Lincoln's second inaugural address, and I'm thinking that might
Speaker 1: be a little bit excessive. I watched some of it
Speaker 1: in between the World Series game. I love the fact
Speaker 1: that the Yankees are winning because of Pollo O'Neil. That's
Speaker 1: a different story. But nonetheless, the gushing on MSNBC about
Speaker 1: the oratorical skills of Kamala Harris, shall we say, might
Speaker 1: be a bit over the top. Maybe a smith right.
Speaker 2: My friend, my friend, my friend Larry O'Connor hosted WML
Speaker 2: here in the DC area, host for town Hall, has
Speaker 2: the line that last week he said Kamala Harris is
Speaker 2: literally acting like she's the president of the drama club,
Speaker 2: the high school drama club. Like she's the kind of
Speaker 2: person who seems like she's rehearsing these lines in the mirror,
Speaker 2: you know, like after she brushes her teeth. I mean,
Speaker 2: although she can't even answer what's on her nightstand? Someone
Speaker 2: asked her that last week and she like just cackled
Speaker 2: her way through it because got.
Speaker 3: You had no idea what that you know? What?
Speaker 2: That even me so and you could tell when she
Speaker 2: was asked before getting on Air Force two to go
Speaker 2: campaign about Biden's comments she was she again resorted back
Speaker 2: to a bunch of canned answers. She only knows three, four,
Speaker 2: maybe five different speeches, and she just pulls out one
Speaker 2: of them, depending on what you're dealing with.
Speaker 1: Lastly, between September third and October twenty fifth, you analyzed
Speaker 1: MRC Analyze one hundred and thirty six. This has got
Speaker 1: to be painful to watch this stuff. One hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty six episodes that Comedy Central, The Daily Show, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Kimbol Alive, The Late Show was Stephen Colbert, The Tonight Show,
Speaker 1: and Late Night with Seth Myers. As far as the
Speaker 1: objects of jokes and ridicule. What percentage of the late
Speaker 1: night comics deal in a negative way with Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: Just give me a round number. What percent of those
Speaker 1: shows dump on Donald Trump every every night? N eight?
Speaker 1: I'm surprised is that ninety eight?
Speaker 2: Well you say the number of jokes one thousand, four
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight jokes about Trump, only thirty five
Speaker 2: about Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1: Who watch? Do you sit there and watch one thousand
Speaker 1: and four and twenty eight to thirty five? Who watches? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean unlike I unfortunately have the burden of
Speaker 2: watching Kaarine Jean Pierre, no.
Speaker 3: The rest. No, you don't have to.
Speaker 2: We have a guy Alex Christy, that is his job
Speaker 2: to watch all of the comedy shows. Our other guy,
Speaker 2: Nick Fondacara, watches the view so you don't have to.
Speaker 2: So we all have birden duty that we carry for you.
Speaker 1: Well, one mind has done. How in the world can
Speaker 1: Trump be real likeed? How's it possible? If you in
Speaker 1: the main How's it possible? The occasional five percent of
Speaker 1: the American voter who's not yet made up his or
Speaker 1: her or one of the other one hundred and four
Speaker 1: gender's minds. Hiss heard them us and we how many
Speaker 1: of fat five percent? How could you possibly watch the
Speaker 1: evening news or late night and think Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: anything but the horn Lucifer, He truly is. How could
Speaker 1: you watch it?
Speaker 2: He can't live There's no other way. It's fairly divisive rhetoric.
Speaker 2: And of course they would say no, no, no, Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: the one who's insulting.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That was the spin On Wednesday CBS Mornings. John Dickerson
Speaker 2: came on and said, you know this, this body and
Speaker 2: garnishing doesn't really matter. The Republicans should shut up about
Speaker 2: this because then you get into an insult comparing contest
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump would win that.
Speaker 3: So you don't really want to.
Speaker 2: Go there, because the real issue is January and Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: They're so mad. They are so mad at Joe Boden Bill.
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine what their company, Slack Channels, were like
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 3: Well, they are so frustrated.
Speaker 1: The documentary film producer Nancy Pelosi's daughter on video. There
Speaker 1: it is in the car at the Capitol of January sixth.
Speaker 1: There's Nancy Pelosi saying, I am responsible for this. I
Speaker 1: should have done more. Nancy Pelosi said that does the
Speaker 1: media ever deal with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know a shot. I know a shot.
Speaker 3: I I know a shot show.
Speaker 1: I know, Nancy Pelosi, I am responsible for this. I
Speaker 1: should have done more, all right, Curtis, Hawk's all of
Speaker 1: their NewsBusters dot org good stuff. Someone has to watch
Speaker 1: one thousand, four hundred and twenty eight jokes about Donald
Speaker 1: Trump in a negative fashion, thirty five positively. It's a
Speaker 1: ratio of sixteen to one against Donald Trump. Curtis, how
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. God bless
Speaker 1: you keep doing your work because the true will set
Speaker 1: us all free. Curtis, thank you very much. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: thank you. Let's continue with more. How about that? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? That those are the facts. That's why many
Speaker 1: people think the way they think about Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: we evil Republicans who are according to the President Joe
Speaker 1: Biden garbage. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WLW