WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:05.280 Good news, callum, good news. He's back. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:09.400 He's back, live and in concert. 3 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.279 Do you know what he actually looks like? That fella 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:22.000 from Royal Family, Jim Royal sat back slightly in his thing. 5 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:24.760 Guess another, what's his catch raise? 6 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:28.440 I'm on a Chesterfield though, so it's okay. 7 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:30.800 Yeah is that Chesterfield? 8 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:31.839 Is that Chesterfield? 9 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:34.119 Guess another, rich Tea. 10 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:38.079 It's actually I'll tell you what. Imagine Jim Royal if 11 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:42.719 he had accidentally stumbled into a sort of slightly smart 12 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:49.000 yet fading country house owned by what's his name? Effing Fulford. 13 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:50.520 That's what we're. 14 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:55.719 Seeing, dressed like a plus sized mannekin in millets. 15 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.439 I'm going to give out your phone number on Twitter 16 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:01.439 so people can call you. 17 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.159 People do that in the street. I don't read it. 18 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:08.920 I do that while driving. 19 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.280 Yeah, they do that anyway, to the side of your car. 20 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:14.719 You just have Richard Ligas's number out the side of 21 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:16.280 your car with how is my driving? 22 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.439 How's my driving? It's actually, if you think about it, 23 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.120 I mean, my website's got all my contact details on 24 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:24.280 and that is on my Twitter account. So yeah, I 25 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.640 have yet Well mind you, I'm tempting fate here. I've 26 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:32.239 yet to to have sort of, you know, direct messaging 27 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.760 of just your but you know, the day is yet young. 28 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.200 You don't have to be docks to do because you've 29 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:39.280 kind of done it to yourself. 30 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:42.760 We're hav insulted you enough. It is brilliant to have 31 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:47.159 what remains of Richard Prideau back on Country Slide. 32 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:48.200 Most of him still intact. 33 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:50.000 Yeah, he's just got an extra bits. 34 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:51.359 Yeah, you got extra bits. 35 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:51.560 Now. 36 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.760 I've lost about five kilos as well, I think, which 37 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.359 is most mostly sort of my muscle wastage. Now I'm 38 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.120 just watching my spindly leg appear. Although I found out 39 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.840 the other day you can feel the plate under the skin. 40 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:06.840 Oh yeah, because it's. 41 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.719 On the front of the shin sort of you can 42 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.680 feel the outline of it. It's weird. 43 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:16.319 Should we explain if somebody has missed it that what happened? 44 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.360 Because what's what are they talking about? 45 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:21.960 Yeah? 46 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.080 I got hit by a tree, broke my leg. A 47 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.479 nice man from India put a plate in my leg, 48 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.400 and now I can't walk until the end of May. 49 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:34.560 Yeah. So if you want to read the full unexpegated version, 50 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.039 go back to the but one episode of Country Slide, 51 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.759 or read Richard's latest scribe pound piece to find the 52 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:44.560 x ray picks. 53 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:48.400 Hmm, thank you, Yeah, it's it's the I thought the 54 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:50.000 x ray picks are a good way to get people 55 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.520 to click through. Although I don't know if you noticed this. 56 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:55.319 When you put an article on Scribe pound, sort of 57 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.120 the first hour or two when it goes out, because 58 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.039 I think they go live at half six in the 59 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.319 morning or something, so just before everyone starts work, that's 60 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.479 when you get your lowest rating, and then after that 61 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:08.520 it goes back up again. So I think it's all 62 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.919 the other writers who don't like us. They click dislike 63 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:14.800 gets a percentage down and then you get your little 64 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.000 score on the back end that you see as a 65 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.520 writer on scraps, and then it goes back up again. 66 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.479 That is probably right actually, So what it basically is 67 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:26.199 all the people who either write for country Life or 68 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.639 want to write for Country Life who don't like us. 69 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:34.280 They they so no, it's absolutely rubbish. I hate that. 70 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.560 Just with this it's about cottsworlds and point pointing. And 71 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.800 then all the real people come in from milking and 72 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.520 taking dogs out and got a breath of fresh air 73 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.639 and that's it. Yeah. Other rural magazines are available. The 74 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.919 Field very good photography in the field. Callum, well did 75 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:55.759 you dry hair? 76 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:59.240 What? Who got the cover this week? Didn't you? 77 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:00.240 Yeah? 78 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.280 I got sent me. I finally got sent the issue because. 79 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.879 I I haven't got the subscription. 80 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.759 I don't know why I haven't got the subscription. 81 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:15.080 Ye, I did have one, and then I just forgot 82 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.920 because I've changed the dress about five times. 83 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.519 So yeah, I just got sent the issue. 84 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.839 We've got the big issue, the big issue. 85 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.959 I got the field. I don't know what are we 86 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:26.319 in now. 87 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.560 April April's issue, which is fishing and I've never ever 88 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:40.439 had a fishing cover of anything before, apart from random 89 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.079 European cart fishing magazines, which I'm not sure that counts. 90 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:49.439 But with that, Miles Malone writing about BB was that 91 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.800 there that was I had two? 92 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.920 How lucky am I got two pieces in the field. 93 00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:01.240 It was a different one, Miles Malone's BB's gun. 94 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.240 I think that one's the BB gun. 95 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.439 One. There was two, So there's a BB Society's Day 96 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.879 and a BB's Gun. I think BB's Gun was actually 97 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.800 I think that was a while ago. And then this 98 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.399 one is I think the BB Society Day, if anyone 99 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:18.040 might right. 100 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.680 I think official show historian Richard should explain who BB is, 101 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.040 so people going to think this is an article about 102 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:24.800 BB guns. 103 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.439 Yes, it's not actually a little tiny gun who fires 104 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:33.360 very small round shot out. It's his proper name. Was 105 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:38.959 it Watkins Prichford or something? That he wrote some fantastic 106 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.160 books on wildfowling. He was a longstanding contributor to the 107 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.600 Shooting Times, and probably most famously for writing that wonderful 108 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:53.439 book Brendan Chase, where it actually inspired me as a 109 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:56.399 young child, Brendan Chase, to run away briefly just because 110 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:58.439 I thought it'd be fun to live in the woods 111 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.800 like the three boys in Brendan Chase. But he was 112 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:08.279 a beautiful writer and a beautiful artist too. What can Richford? 113 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.480 I think he was a he was a master at 114 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:16.120 Rugby School or something like that. That sounds about right. Yeah, 115 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:17.279 But he was a beautiful writer. 116 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:22.240 He's writing amazing, but his art. We also wrote about cartfishing. 117 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:23.480 Yeah, it's great. 118 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:29.240 People to write about cartfishing. And it's interesting that cartfishing 119 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.800 writing back in the day was written like it's a 120 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.879 gentleman's sport, and these days cartfishing is not considered to 121 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.800 be the pursuit of the gentleman. 122 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:42.959 It's very much the true man. 123 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.000 Yeah, it's interesting, that, isn't it interesting? 124 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.800 Knock off half a day after plastering and then you know, 125 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:54.639 get fifteen cans of stellar and go for forty eight 126 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.079 hours down the local. 127 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.920 And pushing for carp with vintage gear that BB would 128 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:05.279 have used, and then it's sort of acceptable to the 129 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:12.000 slightly more aristocratic angler. Seems to be an important thing. Yeah, 130 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.959 I've just been doing some research about bittens for my 131 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:15.959 next book. 132 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.879 Is that working title still wants bitten twice shy? 133 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.959 It really should be, But no, they weren't. My publisher 134 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:23.800 didn't go for that. 135 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.839 They Bitter the Devil, you know, Bitter the Devil, you know, 136 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:29.120 I think as a better title. 137 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:29.839 I do like that. 138 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:31.600 I mean, we could do this all day. 139 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.959 This is just one chapter on bitterens I hasten to it. 140 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:37.279 It's not an entire book on bitten. So but it 141 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.920 was quite interesting, is that I was looking back through 142 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:44.800 some of the very old ornithological books, and Suffolk used 143 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.160 to have the largest bitten population, and they just dropped 144 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:52.000 off the perch, quite literally, and then they came back briefly, 145 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:53.879 and then they went away again. Now they're coming back. 146 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.480 But it's quite interesting is that there was a period, 147 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.199 and I think that's probably around the time when BB 148 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:04.519 was sort of writing, was that gentlemen gunners would actually 149 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:09.279 try and shoot a bitten because of their rarity value. 150 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:12.319 And you know, it's it's quite interesting is the fact that. 151 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.240 Oh, well, I better shoot one before it goes extinct, 152 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.079 well as like a curiosity to keep it as a 153 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.120 as a taxidermy or something. 154 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:21.879 Absolutely. 155 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.680 Yeah, there's there's sort of an argument that a lot 156 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:29.680 of Edward and gentlemen's activities were purely to provide conversation 157 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.000 in the club, weren't they. They was sort of so 158 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.320 you had something to talk about. You know, did you 159 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.799 see that I did this? Yeah, it was on the 160 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:38.080 social media of its day. 161 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:41.559 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But rather than pretending you did it, 162 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.240 you actually did do it. So therefore and you did 163 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:47.240 to prove that you did it, rather than the selfie, 164 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.320 they had to go and shoot this thing. And yeah, 165 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.399 and the bitten because there is it doesn't spoil the story. 166 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.120 But there's a bitten that was maybe still in the 167 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:03.720 Dunnich Museum which is just south of Southward, and it 168 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.720 was shot by my great uncle. He wasn't a gentleman gunner, 169 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.639 I hastened to add, he did it for a living, 170 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:12.360 but yeah, it's interesting. 171 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:13.519 It for the love of the game. 172 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:17.200 He just liked the hatred of bittons, He. 173 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:21.039 Liked getting endangered red listed things, and just he just 174 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:21.759 loved blasted. 175 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:25.960 Well, the interesting thing was he actually did it for ornithologists. 176 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:27.639 So someone would say, I want you to go and 177 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:29.519 shoot a bitton because I want a stuff one so 178 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:32.159 that we can exhibit it. And that's the weird thing. 179 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:34.759 And it's something that Mark now has often says, is that. 180 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:40.840 He said, although birds nesting for young lads largely used 181 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.200 to be great efficionados of having an egg collection, he 182 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:49.519 said when that died out, because under the wildlife comes 183 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.720 like that, it was banned. He said. It. In one way, 184 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.360 it was good for birds, because your little boys going 185 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.799 and nicking an egg from out of a nest, he said, 186 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:02.600 but it stopped that fascination and that interesting going and 187 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:07.039 understanding different birds and what they are and whatnot by 188 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.080 removing it, he said. So in a way it was 189 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.039 a bad thing for nature, he said, because people stopped 190 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.720 their fascination and wonder in it because they no longer 191 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.639 go egg collecting, and he said in a way, he said, 192 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:26.600 you could record, and he does this. He's a nest recorder, 193 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.240 and there are means and ways of officially going and 194 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.919 recording nests as to how you're doing, and it's quite interventionist. 195 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:39.279 They'll be perfectly honest. But he said, you know, he's 196 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:42.080 not advocating egg collection. He said, but there are many 197 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:47.320 of the finest ornithologists throughout history came about because they 198 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:52.279 either shot birds to study then afterwards as taxidamized things, 199 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.480 or they collected their eggs so they could go and 200 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:57.440 sort of pull out a draw and go, ah, yes 201 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.600 that they go, there's a marsh tit And that was it. 202 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.399 So was quite bizarre and always good to hear from 203 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.919 Mark because he's such a voice of the middle ground 204 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.679 and common sense agreed. 205 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.080 Yeah, wasn't there an American bird? It was like a 206 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:17.759 reads warbler or something which was it became extinct effectively 207 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:22.559 within there was a two day period and two naturalists 208 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:24.840 they each shot one because it was so rare, and 209 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.039 it looks like they probably shot the last two days 210 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:28.559 of each other. 211 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:33.159 The passenger. Yeah, I think that's passive, Mark Avery. Actually 212 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.039 he not have always necessarily a friend of the show, 213 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.440 but nonetheless fascinating. 214 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.639 I called him a chunky funster in an article. 215 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.559 Yes you did. He gave my book nine out of ten, 216 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.519 which is quite bizarre. But anyway, I don't know what 217 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:51.840 I lost the one point for. It's probably because I 218 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.080 didn't quite blow Sunshine up. 219 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.759 As as because your uncle shot a bitten because my uncle shot. 220 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.200 A bitter and yeah, basically, yeah do it. I mean, 221 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:02.240 you know you're trd for life after that. But he 222 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:06.279 retired for word at hard and feathered for life. He 223 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:08.679 wrote a very good book about the passenger pigeon and 224 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:12.120 it's and how it sort of went from being as 225 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:16.200 common as ticks on a dog to gone in such 226 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.879 a short space of time, and using it as a 227 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.320 sort of this is what can happen to you species 228 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:27.159 that if you get too much hunting pressure, too much habitat, 229 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.600 lost too much of this, too much of that, and 230 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.000 they all combined together, and hey, Presto is dead, you know, 231 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.399 and gone. Do you want to hear a fascinating thing? 232 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:38.919 I've had any email? 233 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.000 Can we stop you? 234 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:40.639 No? 235 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:41.519 Not? 236 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.759 Really is just a fascination generation machine, isn't he. 237 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.440 It's a fascinating thing because I received an email today 238 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:56.480 from a correspondent in Holland and she bought my book 239 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.519 in Holland, and she is a novelist, and she's asking 240 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.399 a question where. 241 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:04.120 Can I return it? 242 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:10.279 Yes, it's well funbed, largely because I've just put for gripping. 243 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:15.080 It's up. She asked this question right in her book. 244 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.399 She's got some characters that are running around in the 245 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:25.519 Duvolu juniper forest. Have you ever come across a juniper forest? Richard? No, No, 246 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.679 so must be a thing, and she said, piqued interest. Yeah, 247 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.399 and she's saying that she is. Her characters are escaping 248 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:38.039 from someone who are put from some pursuers, and they 249 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:42.639 want to take shelter near a seemingly impenetrable hedge that 250 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.720 are being created a decade before and has been the 251 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.360 abandoned and left to go wild. My characters are hoping 252 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:51.320 that by trying to find a way through the hedge, 253 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:56.080 their pursuers won't find them the hedge before the juniper forest. 254 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.480 My question is how plausible is it for people, even 255 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.120 though by desperation, to try to escape through a hedge 256 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:06.279 gone wild? If they can, how what kind of hedge 257 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:09.120 would be able to grow near a juniper forest. Well, 258 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.679 I've never come across a juniper forest. I mean, I 259 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.519 know what it's like to try and burst through a 260 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.159 ten year old hedge relatively easy, but yeah, a juniper forest. 261 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.799 This is this is news to me because. 262 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.600 Du all the wild junipers in the UK, they're all 263 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.960 in upland areas. There's actually there was a project a 264 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.879 little while ago to real sort of restore or propagate 265 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:36.000 the last few native junipers in Wales, and there's only 266 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.240 about six and they're all sort of hanging on the 267 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:40.200 side of a crag somewhere because a sheep of eaten 268 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.919 the rest. But they're all in pretty poor soil. So 269 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.519 I wonder if it's sort of heathland. 270 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:48.200 Yes, she did say actually, which I perhaps should have said. 271 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.759 So that's very good observation there, she said. Is situated 272 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:54.279 in a place called the Hogue Value, which is a 273 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.720 national park consisting of forests, heath and sand. There you go, 274 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:03.080 mister preb And yeah, basically yeah. 275 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:08.360 Okay, so juniper grows, it's got slow growing sometimes grows 276 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:12.559 a few millimeters per year, right, So that's you know, 277 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:18.919 it's not going to take over it very quickly. Article 278 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:22.879 importance it's good for biodiversity. 279 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:29.600 And also good speaking of which, cheers, I'm not allowed, 280 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.759 are you not still? 281 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:33.759 I've got some blood tests and all sorts. 282 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:38.039 Yeah, ghastly, I'm just off the stuff. 283 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:42.399 Yeah, you're working. You're working on a job that used 284 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:46.559 to be mine tomorrow, aren't you. Yeah, really, I've kind 285 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:48.559 of landed you with it out of the kindness of 286 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:49.000 your heart. 287 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:52.320 You're chopping trees down that will kill you. Great, well done, 288 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:54.720 I'm lucky you. 289 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.639 Which job is it? I know? 290 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.960 I'm I'm going to do a fix a shop for 291 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.159 as a carpenter. Wait, no, no, it's not that one. 292 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.679 I'm gonna run a dog cafe. No, no, it's not 293 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.799 that one. Which one is? It explained to the audience 294 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:09.600 which one it is? 295 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.120 You're going to take the photos that the National Gamekeeper 296 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:20.200 Organizations a gm and awards ceremony over in Coventry, which 297 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.200 is for once it's one of these things. Is actually 298 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:23.759 genuinely in the middle of the country. 299 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:34.000 Yes, yeah, it's called Middle of the Earth Conference Center 300 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.159 or something, Heart of England. 301 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.039 That's the one middle conference. 302 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:41.559 And I'm going to say this because I have a 303 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:44.360 lot of friends in the NGO and they organize things 304 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.679 very very well. But I will say that going to 305 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.519 an awards ceremony organized by gamekeepers is very different to 306 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.919 going to an awards ceremony run by the debutante daughters 307 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.519 who mostly do gw CT events. Yeah, I can imagine 308 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:02.440 a very different vibe. 309 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.880 Would you like another piece of pork pie? Yes, there's 310 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:08.720 the Canna pays. A chunky and chewy. 311 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:09.920 Elevens would be great. 312 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well do I have to just stand 313 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:15.519 on the shoulder of someone on a peg and just 314 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.960 hope that a pheasant comes over or they actually want 315 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:18.799 me to do some work? 316 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:20.400 Now? You all start at the back of the room 317 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.880 and gradually move towards the front, and there's someone at 318 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.240 the end of each line with a bit of plastic 319 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:25.799 on a stick. 320 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.319 But if I was at the Gamekeeper's Awards, I would 321 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.039 definitely round people up by. 322 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.799 Shouting oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, yeah. 323 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.920 Yeah, and flapping her and flapping an old feedbag tied 324 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:39.599 to a stick. 325 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.359 I would suggest a Gamekeeper's Awards tomorrow. Tomorrow. 326 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.160 I want to hear your take on this, because I've 327 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.000 done the photos there for four years. 328 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.200 Now and I've seen how difficult it looks. 329 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.319 I tell you. Look, it's very simple. If you want 330 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.400 to get a load of gamekeepers to flock towards you, 331 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:03.680 put your hand in your wallet pocket and pull it 332 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.079 out with like a slightly closed fist, but what appears 333 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.960 to be note or better still notes clutched in your hand, 334 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.640 and they will suddenly come towards you with a big 335 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:15.480 beaming smile on their face. 336 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.039 And then funny handshake. 337 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:17.920 Funny handshake. 338 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:24.279 Yes, it's like that, the keeper and the underkeeper who 339 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.920 you have not seen on a hard surface all weekend 340 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:29.759 and now suddenly stood in the kitchen. 341 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:34.640 That's right, Yeah, a hard surface, brilliant. 342 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:42.319 Yes, definitely. You know what's coming, yeah, exactly. So what 343 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.799 are we going to be talking about today, because we 344 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:50.400 you know, we've obviously planned this hm hm intricately. 345 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:53.920 Well, I'm sort of detached from things because I've in 346 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.039 an attempt to not go mad, I'm trying not to 347 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.839 go on the internet much while I'm laid up and 348 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:02.000 trying to read books that are printed on paper and 349 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:07.240 things like that. I'm I'm reading the biography of Felwell 350 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:11.400 stuff like that. So that's a bit out of tune 351 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:15.400 with what's actually happening. But you sent some news articles 352 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:17.720 over in the old WhatsApp group. 353 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:23.000 I did, I did, and one I thought was particularly interesting. 354 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.759 So we have already mentioned Mark Avery who erst while 355 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:34.200 member of Wild Justice. But while Justice seemed to have 356 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:40.880 actually done something which I am slightly in favor of 357 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:48.279 in a way is that they have expanded. No, what 358 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:52.319 they've done is that they have started to hold to 359 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:59.279 account Natural England because they have managed to with a 360 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:02.480 bit of freedom of information requests and whatnot. And in 361 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.680 it actually, if they're just spoken to one or two 362 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.480 people in the world of conservation, they would have had 363 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:13.880 this confirmed already that Natural England is not designating anymore 364 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:18.920 sites of special Scientific interest, and they haven't done that 365 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:27.640 since twenty twenty three. And the slight interesting thing is 366 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:33.160 that there is a thought, I mean, we can discuss 367 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:37.000 sites of special scientif into interesting if it's actually beneficial 368 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.640 to wildlife and wider nature in a minute. But one 369 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:47.000 of the interesting things that they discovered in their research 370 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.079 is that there is the reason why there was a 371 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.880 place down in Thurock, which I think isn't thorough down 372 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.559 there where the q E two bridge and the Dartford 373 00:20:58.599 --> 00:20:59.680 crossing is down that. 374 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:02.640 Sort of way I think it's technically Essex. 375 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:11.079 But ken border right, So there that that Natural England 376 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.799 have said that they're considering inverted Commas new principles to 377 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:20.279 prioritize the notification of triple size. Natural England is in 378 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:23.559 the process of reviewing its limited resources. Well we know 379 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:28.079 that they've had their their budgets cut by DEFRA to 380 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:31.799 consider how they can most effectively be used to achieve 381 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.240 and support the restoration of nature. Well, if we here 382 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:38.599 listen to what we were talking about last week, Callum, 383 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:40.960 that seems to be a load of beavers and some 384 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:44.519 glutenous snails which are going to die in dirty water anyway. 385 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:49.000 But one site that was earmark for protection by Natural 386 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.920 England at Thurrock, will be destroyed by a new port 387 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:57.279 development known as Tilbury three, which was granted planning permission 388 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:01.799 in February this year exactly. But I think they mean 389 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.160 port with the docs terrible. Actually, let's be perfectly honest. 390 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:08.440 What is also coming into Tilbury is it is a great, 391 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:12.880 big green energy project. Is that this is where the 392 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:16.200 Norwich to Tilbury pylonline comes in. So they're going to 393 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:21.559 put socking, great big electrical whatever they're called, those things 394 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.839 that take the electricity in before they then send it 395 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.839 off to Brighton. So a load of Green Party supporters 396 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.519 can go and boast a matter how kind they are 397 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:34.440 to the environment because their their energy has been sort 398 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.319 of done by wind power. 399 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.559 So yeah, I think it's so Dale Vince can buy 400 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:39.920 more teeth Venia, isn't that. 401 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.559