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Speaker 1: No surprise, Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior has been confirmed as Secretary of HHS Health
Speaker 2: and Human Services. This sort of wraps up the controversial
Speaker 2: heads of departments that heretofore would never ever have even denominated.
Speaker 2: But Trump nominates some really weird people, gets them in
Speaker 2: because he is an outlier, truly, and this is a
Speaker 2: president who I've never seen have more power over his
Speaker 2: party party members, Congress people, senators are scared to death.
Speaker 1: Of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: They do anything he says, no matter what why, because well,
Speaker 2: it's more important for them to get re elected than
Speaker 2: it is for the good of the country. I truly
Speaker 2: believe that I can't believe that every single senator truly
Speaker 2: believes that RFK Junior should be Health and Human Service
Speaker 2: as Secretary, or that Gabbard should be head of National
Speaker 2: Intelligence or Pete Hegseeth should be the Defense secretary, because
Speaker 2: all of them think that, well, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: But RFK. Here's the issue with RFK. How about this
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory he's about vaccine, AIDS, anthrax, his uncle John F. Kennedy, assassination,
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen sunlight gender dysphoria five G. I mean caught
Speaker 2: up in conspiracy theories that all of that, Well, vaccines
Speaker 2: will destroy you, it'll they'll kill you. AIDS vaccine came
Speaker 2: out of a lab, but we're specifically engineered by the
Speaker 2: Chinese to not affect Ashkenazi Jews.
Speaker 1: Or I think was black people.
Speaker 2: The only one I cared about is ashcan Aser Jews
Speaker 2: because that's what I am. And I didn't get COVID
Speaker 2: because he's absolutely right. COVID accempted me because that's who
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: How about the worm eating part of his brain that's
Speaker 2: very strong and a couple of things about it. During
Speaker 2: the hearings, he was asked specifically about you are against vaccines.
Speaker 2: Of course he deflected and he went the other way
Speaker 2: and he said, I'm not completely against vaccine. My kids
Speaker 2: are vaccinated. He was completely against vaccines, But.
Speaker 1: Deflex doesn't answer the question.
Speaker 2: I think the most interesting part about the confirmation is
Speaker 2: Senator Bill Cassidy from Louisiana, who when he was in
Speaker 2: state government in Louisiana is a doctor. He led the
Speaker 2: fight to vaccinate kids for I think it was hepatitis.
Speaker 2: He led that fight. That was his fight for vaccines.
Speaker 2: And he went ahead and still confirmed. During the hearings,
Speaker 2: he nailed our FK about that and in the end
Speaker 2: voted to move the nomination forward. And all of this
Speaker 2: is just absolute proof that Donald Trump that everybody has
Speaker 2: complete deference, especially was up for reelection. Here comes Kennedy
Speaker 2: up for or Cassidy up for reelection in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Trump makes it very clear, you go against anything that
Speaker 2: I propose, including nominees, I will primary you out.
Speaker 1: You are done as.
Speaker 2: A politician, and that what he's done. That and so
Speaker 2: these people who are elected, and I truly believe this,
Speaker 2: they care more about their reelection.
Speaker 1: Than they do about the good of the country.
Speaker 2: Now, one argument they have which makes some sense, saying,
Speaker 2: if I don't get re elected, I can do nothing.
Speaker 2: I cannot push an agenda that I believe is good
Speaker 2: for the country. And in rfk's defense, which there's not
Speaker 2: a lot to defend as far as I'm concerned, he
Speaker 2: has said, and I believe him somewhat, maybe seventy percent,
Speaker 2: that the health of Americans, chronic disease is an existential
Speaker 2: threat to the United States.
Speaker 1: We have the highest rate of heart disease in the world.
Speaker 2: Our mortality rate is dropping, a lot of it because
Speaker 2: of fentanyl, but it's an opioids, but it's still dropping.
Speaker 2: And we're just not a very healthy society. Mortality rate.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're you know, the richest country in the
Speaker 2: world virtually is number.
Speaker 1: Forty one or forty two in the world.
Speaker 2: I mean, that says a lot about our health system,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't say anything good. Our health system is
Speaker 2: broken completely, and he says we have to redo it.
Speaker 2: By the way, that part of it had, that part
Speaker 2: of his policy a bipartisan support, so we don't do
Speaker 2: He wants to remove junk food from school lunches.
Speaker 1: That's what makes him taste good. There's no junk food.
Speaker 1: The kids don't eat all right, there's an argument there,
Speaker 1: but a lot of school lunches.
Speaker 2: That sort of program actually fall to the Department of Agriculture. Now,
Speaker 2: Cassidy said to him during the hearings, if you come
Speaker 2: out on a equivocally vaccines are safe, it does not
Speaker 2: cause autism. That would have an incredible impact. That's your power.
Speaker 2: So what's it going to be? He deflected, total deflection.
Speaker 2: As you've seen over and over again, it does not matter.
Speaker 2: I have often said this, and I believe it to
Speaker 2: be true. If Charles Manson were alive and Trump nominated
Speaker 2: him as Attorney General, he would be confirmed. Swastika carved
Speaker 2: into his forehead with a razor blade and all a
Speaker 2: lot of power there. Okay, Now, workspace, returning to work,
Speaker 2: keeping on working remotely, big controversy going on Amazon, and
Speaker 2: this is one of the bigger stories that sort of
Speaker 2: brought this to the surface. Told hundreds of thousands of employees,
Speaker 2: you're back at your desks full time and you're working
Speaker 2: looking for another job if you don't, and one of
Speaker 2: the hitches, there aren't enough office spaces for them. Now
Speaker 2: you can do that with office employees obviously people in
Speaker 2: front of computer. It is more difficult the employees and
Speaker 2: the fulfillment centers to say we want to work remotely
Speaker 2: and not go back to the center. That is a joke,
Speaker 2: because it is hard to put a box of something
Speaker 2: in a box if you're not there.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, very deep, very deep.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, that sent shock waves across the tech world.
Speaker 2: Why because Amazon has three hundred and fifty thousand corporate
Speaker 2: employees that having started in January this year, you're back
Speaker 2: at the office or you are fired, don't bother coming back,
Speaker 2: and was the reason Amazon did this?
Speaker 1: Well, I think the same reason that management did that.
Speaker 1: Here we now have that.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're here in studios, so or most of the
Speaker 2: time we're here in studio, so you know, it really
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But salespeople, particularly management people, they were working remotely.
Speaker 1: Everybody was during.
Speaker 2: COVID and management came down a few weeks ago five
Speaker 2: days a week, thank you very much, and people were saying, wow,
Speaker 2: but I work remotely, and I have good reasons to
Speaker 2: argue that because I'm in front of the computer and
Speaker 2: I have to see if I have to go to
Speaker 2: see clients. I'm out of the office anyway, and the
Speaker 2: argument that management used and totally legitimate, by the way,
Speaker 2: because I think this does pan out. The studies have
Speaker 2: shown that when you're in the office, there is more
Speaker 2: collaborate collaboration. There is more a feeling of engagement with
Speaker 2: your employees, with fellow employees, there's a water cooler talk.
Speaker 2: Although you notice and no one has water coolers anymore.
Speaker 2: It's bottles of water. For the most part. You're just
Speaker 2: more involved if you are there at the office.
Speaker 1: And case in point.
Speaker 2: I have a home studio that I sometimes broadcast from.
Speaker 2: Neil has a home studio where he sometimes broadcasts from.
Speaker 1: Kno can't.
Speaker 2: Amy can't because of the physicality of everything. But Neil,
Speaker 2: do you notice that when we are together, all of
Speaker 2: us in effectively one room, because that's how we broadcast,
Speaker 2: there is more engagement. We talked during the breaks, we laugh,
Speaker 2: we joke and make fun of each other. So that's
Speaker 2: absolutely true. On the other hand, I live an hour
Speaker 2: and a half away from the studio. Now do I
Speaker 2: go in there regularly? Yeah, I do, but it's three hours.
Speaker 1: Pardon those fault. Is all that you used to live
Speaker 1: down the road did, and then I moved.
Speaker 2: I'm now in South Orange County, I mean south south
Speaker 2: south Orange, Orange County, where all my neighbors only speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: Nice, thank you.
Speaker 3: But but I've been a uh you know, I've had
Speaker 3: my own companies, and I've been a I've been a freelancer,
Speaker 3: uh in many times in my life as an artist
Speaker 3: and designer in the market.
Speaker 1: Very different though, you very you have to.
Speaker 3: Have discipline to be able to do those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: But in a camaraderie style circumstance, you're never going to
Speaker 3: beat everybody being together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No one has.
Speaker 2: Ever asked for me to be in the same uh
Speaker 2: you know office, same building, Uh, same neighborhood because uh,
Speaker 2: well it's kind of obvious that no one particularly wants
Speaker 2: me there.
Speaker 1: But there is a lot more engagement now.
Speaker 2: When I had my company, uh, we didn't have to
Speaker 2: worry about that because this was pre COVID.
Speaker 1: Wow. Have I been out of that that long? I
Speaker 1: guess I have. But really there was a lot of engagement.
Speaker 2: People would even for lunch, they would sit down at
Speaker 2: the office in the conference room, our employees because they
Speaker 2: would rather have that kind of camaraderie.
Speaker 1: Two reasons.
Speaker 2: Number one, I only gave him ten minutes for lunch,
Speaker 2: so it took them that much longer to go downstairs
Speaker 2: and come back. And two everybody sort of well, we
Speaker 2: didn't give them enough money frankly to have them go
Speaker 2: out for lunch. But it was very, very different when
Speaker 2: everybody is in the office. Everybody was very tight, and
Speaker 2: especially if people do like each other, it's an enormous difference.
Speaker 2: So Amazon the only difference, and a lot of people
Speaker 2: the only difference is they don't have enough office space.
Speaker 1: That's another issue.
Speaker 2: If everybody comes to work and this is post COVID
Speaker 2: and the footprint of office space has gone down dramatically,
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 1: Will you share cubicles?
Speaker 2: Well, if everybody is in the office at the same
Speaker 2: time and you're sharing a cubicle, something's.
Speaker 1: Got to give. And things have changed. I mean, here,
Speaker 1: you come down here.
Speaker 2: We have swaths of cubicle space pits.
Speaker 1: We call them.
Speaker 2: There. They are in the pit that are not inhabited
Speaker 2: at all, No one's there. I mean, you could take
Speaker 2: a bowling ball and just you know, play literally bowl
Speaker 2: and you'll never hit anybody or hit any kind of furniture.
Speaker 2: So the world is changing, it's coming back, and now
Speaker 2: we're going to look at what kind of production happens.
Speaker 2: That's the important one, and that's sort of out. It's
Speaker 2: sort of mixed messages. Here is more production? Does more
Speaker 2: production happen with remote workers? Because they are just people
Speaker 2: will work remotely and as Neil said, our discipline can
Speaker 2: do the work are a lot happier.
Speaker 1: They're at home, there is no commute. They sort of
Speaker 1: work their own hours. If you have a kid that
Speaker 1: you just go over there and take care of the child.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to be said.
Speaker 2: All right, now we're gonna have fun personality tests when working.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you in a minute my experience,
Speaker 2: personality tests can actually cost you your dream job.
Speaker 1: And why is that?
Speaker 2: Because more companies are adding personality tests to hiring screens.
Speaker 2: Nick Malik, the story out of the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 2: was given an online personality.
Speaker 1: Assessment test by three.
Speaker 2: Employers perspective employers for his senior level engineering role. Didn't
Speaker 2: get it because I got some really weird questions. Now,
Speaker 2: I understand the desire to know a little bit about
Speaker 2: your applicants, but running their answers by a bot that's
Speaker 2: not particularly effective now because he's fifty nine. Maybe his
Speaker 2: test results hold him back. Maybe is age. But here's
Speaker 2: what's happening with companies now fixation on quote fit that
Speaker 2: is the biggest.
Speaker 1: Buzzword in hiring.
Speaker 2: Employers are reaching for personality assessments, questionnaires now all the
Speaker 2: way from questionnaires developed by psychologists, and it's pretty sophisticated stuff.
Speaker 1: And some are going to well.
Speaker 2: Astrology, handwriting analysis. Now, while that seems to be far fetched,
Speaker 2: that is actually growing. And what's happening is companies now
Speaker 2: can be a lot pickier when they were desperate for
Speaker 2: talent a few years ago. A lot of people are capable,
Speaker 2: and so what employers now want are people.
Speaker 1: A good fit? Can they work together? And how do
Speaker 1: they do that well.
Speaker 2: Personality tests are very interesting because they're are they on point,
Speaker 2: not really or really depending on the way they're administered,
Speaker 2: the way they're written, the way they're interpreted. So it
Speaker 2: used to be that employers could wanted to grab anybody
Speaker 2: because there was such a shortage, for example, of high
Speaker 2: talent tech folks. Today, you know, it's not easy to
Speaker 2: get a job if you're a high end tech person.
Speaker 2: They can be insightful. They can predict high performance in
Speaker 2: specific roles.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like IQ tests.
Speaker 2: You can be very bright in one area and failed
Speaker 2: an IQ test. You can literally come off like a moron,
Speaker 2: and then in another field you're a genius. So what
Speaker 2: does the IQ test do well? It depends on the
Speaker 2: field you're in. So Simsy a Bondie or beyondy was
Speaker 2: a biomedical engineer, went into business as a business astrologer.
Speaker 1: When were you born? Huh? How about a graphologist?
Speaker 2: Your handwriting indicates whether or not you are a good fit.
Speaker 1: Now you can have the skills, that is sort of
Speaker 1: a given. You can check up on that, but you know,
Speaker 1: do you fit? Let's look at your handwriting, right? Is
Speaker 1: it big and bold? Is it a little tiny? Does
Speaker 1: that mean that you are going to work with other people?
Speaker 2: I know that's a stretch, but you know companies are
Speaker 2: jumping in on that because they're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: a way to make sure that the fit works. And
Speaker 2: by the way, the fit is very important. I mean
Speaker 2: case in point, the Morning Show. If the fit didn't work,
Speaker 2: if we didn't work well together, if we didn't like
Speaker 2: each other, CONO accepted, we would not have as good
Speaker 2: a show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did say that as good as show.
Speaker 2: So now I'm going to share my story with you. Okay,
Speaker 2: with personality tests. One of the things about iHeart is
Speaker 2: that whenever there's a job opening, it must be posted
Speaker 2: and they have to look internally first and then if
Speaker 2: it doesn't work out, they go outside. So morning show
Speaker 2: hosts position opened up, and they went through the I
Speaker 2: wasn't working there yet or I wasn't working here yet,
Speaker 2: and so they had to post, which they did, and
Speaker 2: it's pretty it's a pretty good gig, I mean, morning
Speaker 2: host of the number one talk station in the country,
Speaker 2: and it is I mean, we're kind of an outlier station.
Speaker 2: And then the applications from the outside started. People had
Speaker 2: previous experience, People sent in tapes and I was one
Speaker 2: of the people that was interviewed and I was given
Speaker 2: a personality test and you fill out all these forms
Speaker 2: personality tests that you're really hard to fail because they
Speaker 2: asked the same question six different ways and six different times,
Speaker 2: and you got to sort of tell the truth because
Speaker 2: they'll catch you and lie the test itself. So there
Speaker 2: I am with the program director who is looking at
Speaker 2: what the personality. Personality test said about me the results,
Speaker 2: and he said, you know, everything here says that you're
Speaker 2: not going to really get along with people, and you're
Speaker 2: real a hole.
Speaker 1: And I went, yeah, when can you start?
Speaker 2: And here I am, ladies and gentlemen, the host of
Speaker 2: the bill handle show Man.
Speaker 1: Those things are accurate case in point.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't know who of us would actually pass
Speaker 2: a personality test. I mean, I don't know how that
Speaker 2: works in terms of fit, but it does. All right,
Speaker 2: let me move over before we get to Foody Friday
Speaker 2: with Neil a story that I looked at.
Speaker 1: When oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle of that one. Scoring a fake ID. It's sort
Speaker 1: of a passage.
Speaker 2: Of youth, including my kids partiers, because you don't join
Speaker 2: a bar. You want to go to a bar, have
Speaker 2: a good time. You're seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old and
Speaker 2: you got to be twenty one. So what do people do.
Speaker 1: They buy IDs? That's what they do. They buy IDs.
Speaker 2: And it used to be pretty easy to fake an
Speaker 2: ID for a couple of reasons. First of all, a
Speaker 2: bouncer at a bar, well just it's dark, looks at
Speaker 2: the ID, looks at the picture, sort of kind of
Speaker 2: looks like you doesn't care well. The rules have gotten
Speaker 2: really tight, and underage people in the bar is a
Speaker 2: big hit for a bar. So now they're being more
Speaker 2: careful and it's easier to see who has a fake IDA.
Speaker 2: It used to be fake id's somebody in the dorm
Speaker 2: made them, or some somebody made them in a garage,
Speaker 2: usually some young person. Today it is a serious counterfeitter
Speaker 2: because you've got holograms, barcodes, laser engraving, you've got electronic
Speaker 2: scanners that bars now use.
Speaker 1: Not so easy. So what do you do? Well?
Speaker 2: The fakes have to be created with sophisticated equipment and materials,
Speaker 2: and Neil can talk all about that, not that he
Speaker 2: does fake IDs, but works with the kinds of sophisticated
Speaker 2: materials that I'm discussing here. So, Neil, if you were
Speaker 2: to have to make a fake ID that would pass muster,
Speaker 2: how difficult is that?
Speaker 1: It's pretty difficult.
Speaker 3: You would need you know, you can get laser engravers
Speaker 3: and stuff like that from China for any that are inexpensive,
Speaker 3: but you need a handful of items.
Speaker 1: Whereas before you could use a you could use a.
Speaker 3: Black pencil, colored pencil and a razor blade back in
Speaker 3: the day, and you could forge them. That you remember
Speaker 3: when they used to shine flashlights behind them. That was
Speaker 3: to see the cut lines because people would replace photos
Speaker 3: with someone else's photo. Nowadays, you need to be able
Speaker 3: to read and write a magnetic strip on the back.
Speaker 3: You need to be able to read and write that
Speaker 3: barcode you talked about, and do the holograms.
Speaker 1: I have everything here to do it.
Speaker 2: I could absolutely, I know you could probably pull it off.
Speaker 2: And considering what they pay here, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say you do do it, but I'm just going to
Speaker 2: say it's.
Speaker 1: A nice city. On Alvarado Street.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where you get them down to MacArthur Park.
Speaker 2: But you know, I mean there's micro printing data chips there.
Speaker 2: As you said, ultraviolet features. It's almost like counterfeit money.
Speaker 2: That's so difficult to print. So just a quick by story,
Speaker 2: I'm going to just spin it off into a KFI.
Speaker 1: Premier Radio story.
Speaker 2: I'm syndicated by Premier Radio. Neil was syndicated by Premier Radio.
Speaker 2: So one time Rush Limbaugh was on vacation and I
Speaker 2: was asked to fill in for him on his national show,
Speaker 2: and I lasted two days and I'll tell you why,
Speaker 2: because of a.
Speaker 1: Story like this.
Speaker 2: So remember Jenna and Barbara Bush, the twins George W.
Speaker 2: Bush's daughters got picked up in Texas entering a bar
Speaker 2: with fake ID.
Speaker 1: They weren't twenty one.
Speaker 2: And I talked about that on the air, and I
Speaker 2: said that this is what makes America so great because
Speaker 2: they were picked up, they were prosecuted like anybody else.
Speaker 1: And if the sheriff had even called up.
Speaker 2: Or the local authorities had called up the President of
Speaker 2: the United States about his daughters, or the president called him,
Speaker 2: he would have said them, as President, unfortunately, that's not
Speaker 2: your jurisdiction, and we're gonna treat your daughters the same
Speaker 2: as anybody else.
Speaker 1: Of course, George W. Would never do that.
Speaker 2: And I said, this really is America great because can
Speaker 2: you imagine the daughter of the president of Columbia, for example,
Speaker 2: getting arrested, being charged and.
Speaker 1: Going through the system.
Speaker 2: That person would be killed, I mean instantly, the person
Speaker 2: would die.
Speaker 1: And so I.
Speaker 2: Said that, and I said, this is what makes America
Speaker 2: so great because the law really does treat people for
Speaker 2: the most part the same. No one is above the law,
Speaker 2: and not the president's daughter, daughters, not the guy on
Speaker 2: this street who commits a crime. Well, and there were
Speaker 2: phone calls because that's what Rushing did. I don't know
Speaker 2: how many phone calls I got emails, I mean in
Speaker 2: the thousands that came in handles a wild, wild ass liberal.
Speaker 2: He's just saying that because George W. Bush is a
Speaker 2: Republican and that's the only reason the authorities went after
Speaker 2: his daughters, because they're Republicans. And I came back with, well,
Speaker 2: how about Billy Carter, you know who got nailed, or
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton's step brother who got nailed.
Speaker 1: You're just a wild ass liberal.
Speaker 2: That's all we care about. That's my story of false IDs.
Speaker 2: Just thought i'd share that with you, And it's a
Speaker 2: make America great story because in most ways America is great,
Speaker 2: and I think for the.
Speaker 1: Most part people are treated differently. There are some.
Speaker 2: Exceptions like we're talking about, but for the most part,
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty good in that regard to law is
Speaker 2: held to a pretty high esteem here in the United States.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to want to.
Speaker 2: Buy a fake a d I D Neil, what are
Speaker 2: you charging these days for one?
Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty pricey, aren't they. Hey? Knowing how
Speaker 1: to be bad, isn't being bad? Okay, let me reframe. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair. No, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I haven't had to forge things on a concha, but
Speaker 3: it's been for legal departments.
Speaker 2: Actually, Okay, I get it, So let me rephrase that
Speaker 2: because I was I said it wrong.
Speaker 1: How much do you charge for fake ID? For you?
Speaker 1: For you? For you?
Speaker 2: It's like it's like my friend, you know, my friend
Speaker 2: doubIe who flew for l All Airlines, and I said,
Speaker 2: on your last flight, Dubie, you've got to say.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna be going, we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Be at thirty five thousand dollars altitude, but for you,
Speaker 2: thirty two thousand feet. Okay, enough of that, yeah, yeah, okay.
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