Speaker 1: Day twenty one of the Twilight Zone podcast Advent Calendar,
Speaker 1: and our friend George Stevens says what episodes from TZ
Speaker 1: reboots would have made the best sixties TZ episodes? Now, Zach,
Speaker 1: I know you're quite well viewed with the latest version.
Speaker 1: I know you've seen probably those a couple of times
Speaker 1: at least. How about the other versions? Have you dug
Speaker 1: into those much?
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of the two thousand and two version.
Speaker 2: I've seen a little of the nineteen eighty five version.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all right, I am all right. So what
Speaker 1: are you choosing then? For George's question?
Speaker 2: Well, how many answers do you have for this?
Speaker 1: By the way, I've got two?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to pick one from the twenty two
Speaker 2: version and one for the twenty nineteen version. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to go with Cradle Darkness for the two thousand
Speaker 2: and two version, and that's the one where they Timeshovel
Speaker 2: back to kill Baby Hitler. That feels like it could
Speaker 2: absolutely be a show from the sixties, because there's no
Speaker 2: we're in the far future. We're going back to the
Speaker 2: thirties or whatever, right, I mean, that's you could easily
Speaker 2: write that in the sixties and there, I mean, there
Speaker 2: are episodes where they go back at time to kill
Speaker 2: Hillar in the original show, So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: a little darker to kill a baby, right, So maybe
Speaker 2: that's maybe that's a little much, but I think that
Speaker 2: would have fit in perfectly. And then from a twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen I'm gonna go with my favorite episode of the
Speaker 2: Jordan Bill, Twide's one Try Try with the time traveling
Speaker 2: Twill for Grace. Like it's set in a museum, right,
Speaker 2: it's a two hander. I just I think that was
Speaker 2: just a brilliant episode about evil Groundhog Day. I think
Speaker 2: as everybody decided to call it, and I totally agree. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, you you know, if you make it
Speaker 2: in the sixties, you changed the specifics about these things, right,
Speaker 2: But because he got really dark, and I don't think of
Speaker 2: gon go on that dark again, like killing babies, and
Speaker 2: then the things that Tilver Grace imply dark stuff. But
Speaker 2: I think both of those are kind of universally great
Speaker 2: science fiction humanity stories and would fit in the original show.
Speaker 1: Good Choices, Good Choices. So I'm going to go with
Speaker 1: two from the eighties show.
Speaker 2: Okay, because good representation for the eighties show Good Good.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always a tough sell because I think
Speaker 1: people are always going to be even though I'm quite
Speaker 1: open to it, there's always a part of you that
Speaker 1: is very like, what are they going to do here?
Speaker 1: Are they going to pull this off? But I think
Speaker 1: the very first episode of the eighties show, I personally feel,
Speaker 1: is as good as you know a lot of the
Speaker 1: classic show. And of course there's like, well it looks
Speaker 1: like an eighties show. It's not as crisp and clean,
Speaker 1: and you know all those things that you have to
Speaker 1: get over, And absolutely I agree that's the task here,
Speaker 1: isn't it to see whether you can get past some
Speaker 1: of these things. But it's an episode called Shatter Day
Speaker 1: and it stars Bruce Willis and it's written by Harlan
Speaker 1: Ellison and I think Alan Brennett did the screenplay. And
Speaker 1: Bruce Willis accidentally calls his home phone number and Bruce
Speaker 1: Willis answers the phone, so it's like, Okay, what's going
Speaker 1: on here? So the way the story plays out, and
Speaker 1: I won't ruin it, is he keeps making these calls
Speaker 1: back to his house and he's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: But then a very kind of specific thing happens between
Speaker 1: these two versions of Bruce Willis, and I think it's
Speaker 1: played really well and it's got a real tangible kind
Speaker 1: of this is telling you a lesson about humanity, you know,
Speaker 1: or people, the human experience, et cetera, et cetera. So
Speaker 1: I really do think back in the eighties, when you're
Speaker 1: sitting watching this the first Twilight's own reboot apart from
Speaker 1: the movie, I guess, and this episode comes on, it
Speaker 1: must have been like, oh my, they've cracked the code.
Speaker 1: They've done it.
Speaker 2: You know, you're so back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then unfortunately it wasn't always plain sailing from
Speaker 1: then on. But I do think that first episode is
Speaker 1: pretty great, and there are flashes of brilliance throughout it.
Speaker 1: You know, there was one called to See the Invisible Man,
Speaker 1: and it was a sort of you know, alternate reality
Speaker 1: or you know, slightly future reality or whatever. And a
Speaker 1: guy called Mitchell Chaplain gets found guilty of the crime
Speaker 1: of coldness, you know, not being friendly or open enough
Speaker 1: with people around him, which is a bit weird. For
Speaker 1: his punishment from the state is to be rendered invisible
Speaker 1: for one year. Now, they don't actually make him invisible.
Speaker 1: They put a kind of scar or implant or something
Speaker 1: on his forehead. So if you this on another person,
Speaker 1: you need to ignore them. You know, you can talk
Speaker 1: a lot about that in our modern world, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: you're likening that too. But there's a lot of good
Speaker 1: stuff in it. Like there's a scene where so he's like, well,
Speaker 1: if people can't see me, then I'll just run a mock.
Speaker 1: You know. He's going into cafeterias, pushing things over. He
Speaker 1: goes into a ladies' locker room and he's kind of laughing,
Speaker 1: and he starts to see how actually horrified they are,
Speaker 1: and he's making them feel terrible, and then he just
Speaker 1: feels completely ashamed of himself and leaves the locker room.
Speaker 1: And it's again, it's one of those things that you
Speaker 1: could maybe they wouldn't have had that scene in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, but there's a lot of this that you
Speaker 1: could actually see other actors doing in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: So it's really really good episode of the eighties Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, we gravitate towards those
Speaker 2: they remind us of the original show, right, I Mean,
Speaker 2: we're we're not fans who says it has to be
Speaker 2: four x three in black and white only or we're
Speaker 2: not going to accept it. Right, But so much of
Speaker 2: that DNA of the original show when you can find
Speaker 2: it in these new episodes. I think that's why a
Speaker 2: lot of my favorites are, like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: really love those one and you know why because I
Speaker 2: feel like it could have been part of the original show.
Speaker 2: I know, and I've said that, you know, on on
Speaker 2: microphone somewhere and even in just normal conversation. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot to that, right, And that's uh, you know that,
Speaker 2: and I have I've listened to your Aftermath show. But
Speaker 2: there's so many of those eighty shows, probably like seventy
Speaker 2: five percent of them I haven't seen. So one day,
Speaker 2: one day, there's more talleads on am there for me
Speaker 2: to revisit. So that's that's fun, so to know that's
Speaker 2: out there one day for me to check out.