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Speaker 1: Yo, what is up?

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Speaker 2: Boys?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? And welcome back to another episode of

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the ran Cafe Anime Podcast. Today we're talking about bad

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Kai with me. Today we got Jordan the anime dude.

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How's it going?

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Speaker 3: Well, what's up? Everybody? Happy to be here? Yeah, it's

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a It's Kai week. This what a fun way to

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start twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 2: Am I?

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Speaker 1: Right? And this dude recommended Full Dive, the ultimate next

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gen Full Dive RPG is even shittier than real life.

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That's that's the title, and we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it the whole thing every time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have Recon, the king of bad taste,

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here to recommend bad anime and he did a great job,

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not surprisingly, actually not surprisingly Isa Kai cheat magician from Recon.

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What up, dude? What up? Gamers?

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Speaker 4: Your boy Recon is back and yeah, we're talking about

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a lot of shitty Isakai. And my recommendation was Isakai

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shit magician is what I like to call it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I recommended death March to a Parallel World

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raps Sody, whatever the hell it's called.

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Speaker 4: A death march.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, death March Full Dive.

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Speaker 1: And where should start? Should we start with isakai. Cheap Magician,

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I think that's a good place.

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Speaker 3: To you guys, we can we can do that. Yeah,

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I'm down.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not the worst isakai I've ever watched, but

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it was pretty close. It was pretty bad. It was

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very slowly paced, not a lot happened, and it just

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I watched it and dubbed, which my condolence is to

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whoever watched that and dubbed because the dialogue and voice

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acting is not good. The word. We'll get into some

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specific moments that we're just so cringe, but just general thoughts.

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It just you know, they're both cracked pretty much right away.

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Not a lot going on. It took like three episodes

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to still do nothing.

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Speaker 3: Jordan thoughts, Yeah, so this was a bit of a

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weird one. Cheap Magician I recon said it was gonna

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be bad, so there was a slight thought in the

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back of my head that maybe it's good. And you know,

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I feel like if we just go through all the

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normal things we'd hear in a nissaki like, we're gonna

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be repeating ourselves over and over again. But this is

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one where more than any of the others, more than

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almost anything I've ever seen. It just kind of follows

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that typical is Ski formula without really trying to do

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anything out of the ordinary. So it's not as bad

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as I expected in a lot of ways. It's not

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like bad bad, but it's like so bland and mediocre

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that it's almost painful. Right. So it's like just it

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kind of goes through those steps and hurdles and tribulations

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that you would normally see in a Nissakai, but it's

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like it's following plot points from plot point A, B,

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C D, and it doesn't really care about the details

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in between, and it's just very cookie cutter. I don't know.

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It was kind of painful to watch. I had to

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stop after like seven episodes.

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Speaker 1: But you got the seven. Good for you, man, good

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for you. You got the seven.

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Speaker 3: I watched the first one in and that was I

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had to stop like two or three times. Subbed and

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it was a little bit easier, but it was You're

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not wrong about the Uh the voice acting in that

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first episode was so I'm not a voice actor. I

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feel like I could have done a better job, Like

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it felt like they were like reading a presentation in

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like a college. Uh A college classroom where they're not

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used to speech right, like they're trying to like learn

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about public speaking as they as they One.

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Speaker 1: Of my one do I go to like roasts is

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when I when I hear dialogue that bad, I'm like,

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this is some chat cheapyts dialogue. But it was before

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chat cheepy Tea even came out. It really felt like

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we've done some high school kid. Some high school kid

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wrote a script and they're like, we need to fill

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in lines. We don't want to get to the major

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plot points yet. It's like, this girl is holding a

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tennis racket. She plays tennis. Let's have a guy be like,

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let me guess you're playing tennis today. It's like the

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other there's other ways to bring up the tennis conversation

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conversation than being like, let me guess she's holding a

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fucking tennis racket. Of course he's playing tennis. At some

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point it's like yeah, Or there's like a couple of

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lines like there's this gigantic, fucking black obsidian horse that bleeds, breaths,

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breathes fire, and the guy's dialogue was like this probably

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isn't a normal, normal horse. No shit, a normal horse.

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Speaker 3: There were so nonchalant about that situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's like a high school presentation or a

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college presentation. Jordan, You're so right.

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Speaker 3: It was like a fever dream. It was so weird.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead ahead, No.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say. It's like they're so focused on

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getting from like plot point A to plot point B.

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After riding out like a hard outline like a no,

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you start to write, you'd write like I want to

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get to hear and then to hear, and it's like

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going in between. It's like the dialogue itself was to

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get to that next point rather than feeling natural in

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any sort of way. And and I have an example

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of that I want to talk about from later in

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the show. But before that, we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Get to Dun's opinion and why he recommended it. I

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know he recommended it because it was trash, and I

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was asking for trash. She's a guy. One last complaint

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I want to say is just this show is also

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the epitome of tell not show for a long time.

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It's like, we don't need all these discussions about the

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world and the power system, like one okay, but it

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was like three or four discussions in the first two

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episodes about the world and the power system and like

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what's happening when they could have just showed us, like

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make them do a test and then get into some training.

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We don't need to have three conversations about what's gonna

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happen in training to show us. I have one compliment.

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I have one compliment for this show, and it was

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that they used the real world like science to apply

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to her fire magic to like make it like larger.

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She thought of gas like magic in this world involves

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like visualization and like thinking about it. And since she

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has knowledge of our world and how we could create

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larger flames and explosions and such, see was able to

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add that to her magic. And that's the only cool

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thing out of the three episodes hour of content I watched. Okay,

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recon any thoughts on this show? You recommended, Well.

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Speaker 4: I recommend it obviously because it's one of the worst

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the guy I've seen. It's like on par with what's

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it called, Uh the smartphone?

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Speaker 1: Is the guy smartphones? Very Smartphone's worst.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's like to me, it's like on par

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These two are like one of the worst guys I've

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ever seen. And you you guys pretty much covered the

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points that I really wanted to talk about, because this show,

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like you all said, it's bland. It looks like it's

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written by some fucking fourteen year old or a high schooler.

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It is the most generic, overpowered isakai shit that I've

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ever seen.

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Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, that's why that's I every much recommended it.

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Speaker 4: I just want to see what you guys thought, and yeah,

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you guys really did good at covering all the points.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of those things where I think

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smartphone's worse in a lot of ways, but at least

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smartphone tried to do something kind of unique, right, Like

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it had a little bit of a he has a smartphone?

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Like that that was the twist, Like it's not much,

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but it's this phone's not even tried.

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Speaker 1: They're like, isa kai is popular, right now, let's make

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a cookie cutter fantasy isakai with like no creativity or well,

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it was probably it came up pretty early on in

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the isakai things, so they didn't probably probably didn't feel

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like they needed to put a twist. But now that

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we've seen so many, they need to add like some

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type of twist. Otherwise it's just a copy and paste, right,

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I will say the reason why Smartphone's worse is like

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there are somehow even less steaks, which is impossible, and

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like the characters are just so bland and boring, and

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the our main character is even more overpowered. It's like

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they just took everything to like the further extremes, while

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this one has no extremes other than they have a

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hot teacher. That's also one positives a hot teacher.

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Speaker 3: Not wrong, You're not wrong. I did like the hot

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teacher that and this one wasn't as bad as I

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expected it to be initially as far as it did,

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at least kind of you know, while going through those

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motions and stuff. It's not like he was overpowered with

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a harem right out the gate, right. They did have

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to have some sort of training and even even though

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it wasn't probably executed amazingly like a like they flashed

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to her training with the with old girl and she's like,

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this is how you do it. Fire, and then she

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repeats it and she goes fire and then there's fire,

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and it's like, yeah, she like played on it a

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little bit more past that, but it's like, what did

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you guys do the rest of the day. That was

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we just like watch the entirety that you guys were

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out there the whole day, and that was right.

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Speaker 4: STUCKI also mentions Mayans and death Ability is so Overpowered

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is also one of the worst.

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Speaker 1: One of my buddies.

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Speaker 3: It is tries to do like something kind of unique

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with it, right.

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Speaker 1: I did. I did say Mayans in Deathability is So

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Overpowered was the worst anime I've ever dropped, which is

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potentially worse than the worst anime I've ever finished, being

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Smartphone Like, they're smartphone and in my Instant Deathability are

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like we have to hang their jerseys up in the

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rafter when we do with Isakai brats for the Worstai.

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I don't think they're allowed to be in it. I

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think they're the goats of being bad, and I think

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we need to retire them into the Hall of fame.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, see, I think you were the only one

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that said Instant death Ability was bad. Though it was.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not the worst, it's not the worst, but

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smart to me, smartphone and shit magicians are way worse

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at least has nothing going for it. This has nothing

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going for it versus my incent death ability has like

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everything that it tried to do, it just did it worse.

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It's better if they did nothing. I genuinely think it's

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better if you do nothing. At this point, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, so I know you didn't make it

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this far into the series, But can I speak about

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a moment's like in Cheap Magician that just kind of

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took me out of it a little bit, Not that

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I was ever fully in it, but because everything, like

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I said, it's all the dialogue is very weird. They

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get like an intrigue mission right where they need to

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go gather intel, and even then they're they're not subtle

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it like a four year old wrote the whole script, right,

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but it leads down this plot line where you know

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eventually they're they're the bad guys, are planning an attack

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on the city, and main character going and investigating like

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finds like these two lolly girls that uh have been

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creating all these goblins, right, these goblins that are gonna

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attack the city, and these girls are very apathetic about it.

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They don't care at all. They're like, yep, these goblins

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are gonna go up. They're gonna kill all the men

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and children, they're gonna rape all the women, and like

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they're just very matter of fact about it, right, and

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it's like doesn't bother us, not our problem. As soon

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as the goblins hatch they go after them, he saves them.

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There's like he's like you're sorry now, right, They're like yes,

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and it's like I think the point there where they're

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like they eventually come to our side. But there it's

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just so wishy washy about it. There's no nuanced in

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the details about it. That's just like they're just forgiven instantly, right.

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like they're there. So it's like it's like, yes, it

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feels matter right, Like it was such an extreme thing.

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It's like like they were just about to destroy this

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whole city and like they they barely got a slap

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Speaker 1: Gave him that It sounds like a mom being mad

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at the kid for doing like a small like a

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small bad thing, and it's like say, you're sorry, I'm sorry.

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that's a trope and anime you got the bad guys.

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it's probably a character you wanted on the main team

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or something, but god, it was. It was just so

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badly executed like that, like in the writing itself that

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it just uh, it just took me out of it. Man,

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it's just is too much, all right.

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Speaker 1: I think we move on to Jordan's recommendation. Now, Full Dive,

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the Ultimate ext gen Full Dive RPG is even shittier

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than in real life. You do need to say that

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full time every time. And I am disappointed Jordan that

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you you you said this is a bad guy. It

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was fantastic. I I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I can't just try to recommend the worst. I feel

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like we talk recount took the assignment too literally, Like

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I was like, I'm gonna recommend one that's just kind

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of mediocre.

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Speaker 1: Some people hate.

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Speaker 4: I already knew this was a good anime, but I

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just didn't want to say anything because I want I

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wanted you guys to like hear your opinions. But I've

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watched it fully this this anime is really good.

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Speaker 3: So it's probably the same author as Overly Cautious Hero, right, like, yeah,

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my top five guys, and uh, and you're I just

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rewatched over the Caustious Hero, so I'm like, can I

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recommend that one? You're like, no, that one's actually good

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that I'm like yeah, And I'm like this one. It's

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not nearly as good as Overly Coustious Hero, but like,

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there's something there and I do think it's worth watching.

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So I went ahead and tossed it out there. I

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think it's kind of mediocre in comparison, but still interested

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to get you guys's thoughts.

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Speaker 1: So honestly, man, I was. I forgot that it was

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created by the author of Overly Coustious Hero, and I

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could see it. I could down in retrospect, see, like,

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the reason I love Overly Cautious Hero is for the

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comedy and the stupid moments, and I feel like this

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series had a simil It's not the same, obviously, the

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gimmick for Overly conference Hero is very different, but it

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made me laugh and care at the same time in

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a similar way. I really enjoyed it. I know some

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people by chat did also dislike it, so it wasn't

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like it's a beloved series and all three of us

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might like it, but there were people in my chat

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that didn't like the series. I love that that first

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girl scamming our boy. I thought it was so funny.

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I think she's a wholeus character, like you're not a

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good person, but I think she's a hilarious character.

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Speaker 3: Boobs she is.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know what her name is, but I.

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Speaker 4: Just called her the the game shop girl.

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Speaker 1: Can you please remind not an eyelid. We're gonna go

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through some events that happened, but recon I want to

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hear your thoughts on full Dive.

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Speaker 4: I watched it all the way back when it came

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out week by week, finished it, and I found it

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so funny and I really enjoyed it. I was surprised

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that you recommended at Jordan, but I just didn't want

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to really say anything. This anime, it's like the main

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protagonist gets I still don't know why you say that's

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an Isakai. First of all, it's not really an I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, is that's the thing because they get.

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Speaker 2: Trapped in the other world.

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Speaker 4: But here he just puts on his head gear and

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then plays the video game, and it's it's like that.

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I mean the game he plays is like super super

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realistic to the point where it feels like real life,

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but at the same time, it's not really Aki.

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Speaker 3: Is Shangri lat Frontier and Heisa Kai. You know, it's

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it's one of the on it, right, I consider it a niskay.

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It's a whole new world there.

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Speaker 1: I guess I think it's I think it's borderline. It's

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definitely borderline, but like if you're putting on VR and

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it's so realistic that you're feeling the pain and the

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consequences of the actions along with it being like, I

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don't know at the end of the day, he is

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going to another world. It's just a video game game.

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Speaker 3: This is a bit of a spoiler, but they do

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actually kind of poke fun at the whole essay oh

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thing a little bit where it's like, oh my god,

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don't tell me if I die in the game, like

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I die and she's like, no, that that's silly even

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reading too much manga. But it will fry your console

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and break the game, like if you if you die,

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like then there's no like redos, right, So it's it

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doesn't feel exactly like just a video game. It like

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it tries to make it as close to real life

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as possible, right, which kind of destroys the, uh, the

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whole escapist aspect of it that he had been kind

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of using games for.

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Speaker 1: So dude, I loved the first episode where he gets

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transported to the world and he ends up killing his friend.

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But then afterwards when the friend killer, when the girl

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finally joins in, she's like, so, how is like your

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time with your friend? Like, how is the apple picking?

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Did you guys have a good time? Meanwhile, he's been

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fucking running for his life and he just murdered his

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friend accidentally, and she's like, oh, did you skip the

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apple picking and have fun with your childhood friend? Did

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you guys do naughty stuff? And he just, like the

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entire place wants to kill me, like like the extremes

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were so funny.

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Speaker 4: She yeah, she's she's going yonder E mode. To be honest,

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I think she is a yonder.

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Speaker 3: A little bit because she she's a I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, because I think she was in love with

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her brother and then the fact that he just killed

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him and she's like going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't think she loved as a brother.

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Speaker 4: It's not but anyway, no, it's not related, but yeah,

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he gets scammed into buying this uh, super realistic game

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that nobody's really playing. And she then joins him later on.

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Speaker 2: As his little quote unquote helper.

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Speaker 4: As a little fairy, which is her fucking avatar of

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a playable character, and she just goes around helping him

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out and he's and he's like trying to do his

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best to beat the shitty game. So he looks up

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a guide online. Oh my god, that was so yeah,

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he just he finds the guide, but this dude is

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such an asshole.

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Speaker 1: Dude, that guy, it was like, you couldn't beat it

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by yourself, that's why you came to meet And it's like, well,

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if you if you're stuck in this situation, you should

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probably just die in a fire or kill yourself. But

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if you decide to keep with life, you could also

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you know, grab the sword in your room. You for

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needing a tutorial. I fucking love it, Like it's just

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my humor.

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Speaker 4: He was watching a guide of someone who beat the game,

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and he's just trash talking him all the time to

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get him like.

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Speaker 1: He's he's trying to get him serious.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to like so fucking funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, over the course. Also hilarious that if you die

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in if you die in the game, you can buy

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a whole new clubsole to play again.

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Speaker 3: He was pissed about that, right, She's like, we have

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him for sale at the game store for this and now, oh,

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you freaking wustler over here.

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Speaker 1: This is I would probably play it at least once.

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I would play it at least once.

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Speaker 3: My concert.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how far did you guys get.

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Did you finish the whole thing?

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Speaker 1: I watched five episodes five.

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Speaker 2: Episodes, so I probably shouldn't really talk more. To be honest,

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a lot you guys should continue it to me.

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Speaker 3: On the whole plot point. I finished it a long

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time ago, and then I recovered everything just here recent

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But so this.

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Speaker 1: Is why I do want you to try to like

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just like maybe skim a little bit. That's the first

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three epis. We're recommending things. Unfortunately, guyscon has seen everything,

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like unless we recommend yeah, like I could recommend vision

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of Escaflonia if you'd like recon, but I know you

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don't want me to recommend that. Don't worry about it.

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I is it technically an vision, No, it's just fantasy.

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I can't remember same on like this like eighties.

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Speaker 4: What you guys are talking here, Please don't recommend me that.

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Speaker 1: But so in regards to watching newer Fantasy and Kai,

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for example, you've seen them all. So we're gonna have

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me and most Me and most Most, Me and Jordan

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are gonna be the newbs here watching the first three

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to five episodes, if you could just like refresh your

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memory on the first three to five briefly so we

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don't like get spoiled. I do want to I want

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to finish Full Dive, but I still want to have

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a conversation about like kind of our first impressions and

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some things that happened. So I would not recommend Cheap Magician,

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but I would recommend Full Dive.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, Full Dive is very good. So

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like with Overly Cautious Hero, you know, there's gonna be

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a lot of crazy plot twists and whatnot in Full Dive,

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Like I think the dude is genuinely a good writer,

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and there's a lot you can still talk about without

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ever spoiling any of those. So I just thought it

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was so interesting that, like Overly Cautious Hero, I think

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the anime adapted like the first two volumes and there's

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like seven out really been on hiatus for five years. Yeah,

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So it's like one of those where I think he's

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kind of he always puts himself in these tough scenarios

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where everything's so hard that I feel like he kind

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of backs himself into a like a writer's corner and

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like a writer's block and whatnot. And it's one of

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those things where like he I think there was like

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announcements in twenty twenty four that it was gonna be

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coming back, and then it just kind of hasn't. So

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it's so interesting to me that, like, as good of

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a writer as he is, this whole series focused around

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or Full Dive. The series focused around a character who's

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in real life kind of quitting things that he's good

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at and likes to do, and he's he always runs

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away from things, right, So it's like him learning to

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face those those things because he's, you know, rather than

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playing escapist video games, he's having to deal with one

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that's like very you know, very similar part and parcel

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to real life. Right, So it's like if running away

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causes problems in real life, it's also causing problems in

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the game, so having to face things and and try

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to actually go towards an ending. You know, it's not

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only like an arc and theme that's kind of covered

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in this series, but I feel like it's kind of

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representative of the author, right, Like he wrote himself into

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a corner and overly Cautious here, he's like, you know what,

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I want to write a series about a character that

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also has trouble finishing things, but you know he's going

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to find the way to do it, so it breaks.

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Speaker 2: What episode did you get to in Full Dive?

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Speaker 1: So for Full Dive, I think I watched episode five,

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so I do remember there was a funny torture scene

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where he pissed his pants, but they related into like

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his backstory where oh yeah, he ran track and he

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pissed his pants. I do think I remember this author.

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This author, he didn't take this super seriously, but he

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blends like comedy with like some deeper moments really well,

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especially in Overly Cautious Hero. I think Overly Cautious Hero

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is my favorite HESU guy of all time, and this

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has moments that remind me of it. I don't know

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how exactly to put it, because obviously I do think

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like the like the pissing parallel one to one whatever,

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a little bit rushed or maybe lackluster. Yeah, but I

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do like the overall idea that he's going for. Like

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Jordan said, he quit something in real life and now

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he's stuck in this game that's probably a million times

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harder in this unrealistic situation that he's like stuck in

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and he's slowly I'm hoping he's gonna keep on playing

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and like overcome it, and by doing that will allow

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him to relate that to his actual life. I feel

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like that's what he's going for.

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Speaker 3: I like the very possible keeps you guessing right. This

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00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,440
one's also not finished, so I kind of overtho.

472
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,799
Speaker 1: He has seven light novels and it only covered the

473
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,319
first one only Adam I only cover two.

474
00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it could start to what I've heard I

475
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:15,960
need the like I've thought about reading it.

476
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: But uh, do you like overly consciouseral more than Kono

477
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,680
Suba soor I just answers this question significantly more.

478
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: Like I've con a super in my Big three, but

479
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:28,200
I have overly cautious hero still like in my top five,

480
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:28,960
So like it's.

481
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: For me, I'm to be honest, it's just comedy at

482
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,839
the end of the day, like there was comedy. There's

483
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,640
very few anime that make me laugh out loud, and

484
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,359
there's very few anim that make me laugh out loud

485
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,799
consistently from episode to episode, and overly cautious here pulled

486
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,160
that off for like eight episodes. Some people say it

487
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,319
gets repetitive, and I do kind of agree, but it

488
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,960
was It's just my type of humor, I guess. And

489
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,160
then like after eight episodes, out of nowhere, it just

490
00:23:56,279 --> 00:24:00,640
like became an actually extremely well written, deep show that

491
00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:04,240
made me care and like feel emotions and I'm like,

492
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:07,559
I want more. Very I don't know. I can't think

493
00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:10,960
of a comedic or ek eye anime that has gotten

494
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,839
me to care to that degree and laughter that degree.

495
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 3: That's the thing is, it doesn't It's not just out

496
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,880
of nowhere, right, like are you watching it? And stuff?

497
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,079
The amount of foreshadowing in it, like throughout it's very

498
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,599
subtle and.

499
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: Will be dispatched, combatants will be dispatched.

500
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,799
Speaker 3: I watched that at the same time as Full Dive.

501
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,160
I did this. I went down that rabbit where I'm like,

502
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,000
I know if you've seen.

503
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: That breaks it's also by the author who did come

504
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,279
sub but it's it's not as funny. It's still good though,

505
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,400
and they kind.

506
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: Of have that Full Dive in the same boat, right,

507
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,519
probably not quite as good, but still good.

508
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Nice. Any any other thoughts on full dive?

509
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: Guys, finish it, just just finish it.

510
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to spoil anything big, but yeah,

511
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,519
just I do want to appreciate just how this author

512
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,680
kind of you know, he tackles subjects that seem serious

513
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,000
and like like a have deeper meaning, but he does

514
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,400
so in a, you know, a way that's just having

515
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,960
fun with it. So like I do think episode three was, uh,

516
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,880
you know, you either love it or hate it in

517
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,240
this series as far as he's like, oh I'm getting

518
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,160
this warning I pop up warning of like is this

519
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,960
my adult moment? Is this? Like is this the the

520
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240
game where the game shines? And now it's just a

521
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,640
legitimate torture scene, right, Like that's that's what it meant.

522
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,839
And uh and he pees himself and then you know,

523
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,079
maybe they shouldn't have gone with a one to one parallel,

524
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,640
but that's it's just not taking itself too seriously, right, So.

525
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, a one to one parallel also done like

526
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720
back to back right away. It's like it could have

527
00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:41,480
I don't know, I feel like it could have had

528
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:43,839
some more subtle to your nuance, but it didn't.

529
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,079
Speaker 4: It.

530
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: Also, there's something about like there's something about like a

531
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,839
pissing yourself PTSD flashback though, Yeah, that fits with the humor, right,

532
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,480
So depending on how you play it.

533
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Death March to the Parallel World

534
00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,920
rap sooty was is my recommendation. I don't be a

535
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,799
I never saw this before, or maybe one episode a

536
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,519
long time ago. I just kind of googled what's the worst?

537
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:07,160
He's the kai of all time and then went on

538
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,960
to Reddit and people were like just like talking about

539
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,920
bad Sky and someone said death March, and I don't

540
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,279
think it's the worst of all time. It wasn't that good.

541
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,640
I do want to hear your thoughts. Primarily, I did

542
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,400
have one question. So this is basically our main guy

543
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,880
is a programmer in the real world and he's super

544
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,440
super overworked and then he goes to bed and he

545
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,119
wakes up in another world. Did he die because he's

546
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,119
overworked or did he like fucking wait what heck?

547
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he dies, he dies of overwork.

548
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that soumed oh like it does never

549
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:42,039
explicitly say that one of those. He doesn't quite know

550
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,599
how he got there. So there is you know, in

551
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,359
the series, we do meet other people that were reincarnated

552
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,559
or isakai and whatnot, and they typically go over two

553
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,759
different ways that it happens. You know, either you're summoned

554
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,960
or yeah, or you're reincarnated. And whenever people are reincarnated

555
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,240
by dying, they're like born as a baby and grow up.

556
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,799
He's like, I don't really fall into either of those categories.

557
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,880
So it's one of those where we don't know. Yeah,

558
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,079
we don't know. So there's a lot of stuff kind

559
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,960
of up in the air that doesn't quite uh pin

560
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:11,960
one to one with this series as you're following the

561
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,119
plot threads, so it could go anywhere with that. So

562
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920
there was a season two announced like a year ago.

563
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.

564
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,519
Speaker 4: It's coming, it's getting a second shot.

565
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Guys, What did you think of my recommendation?

566
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: It is one of the worst, is why breaks I

567
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,880
watched it long ago when it came out. Also, you

568
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,000
know me being a seasonal watcher. It's just your average

569
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:40,200
generic overpowered protagonist from the get go, who gets Isachai

570
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:44,759
to the world, rains down fucking the hell on all those.

571
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 5: Stampeding lizards, and then proceeds to venture out the deep

572
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,039
open world, buys himself some nice slaves, and then just

573
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,920
flexes on everyone, shoots his guns.

574
00:27:55,839 --> 00:28:00,519
Speaker 4: On bosses, and he's pretty much just undefeatable. All the

575
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,759
fights are so one sided. The whole show is so

576
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,160
damn predictable. And yes it's also a harem, because why not.

577
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,599
Speaker 2: And yeah, Jordan's yeah, what else do you want me

578
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,359
to say?

579
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: So, I actually I hated this one initially. Whenever it

580
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,559
first came out. I watched a few episodes Back then.

581
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,960
I think I was in like the dungeon diving part

582
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,359
where pop ups keep popping up left and right, and

583
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,240
like it's like this skill was acquired and this ability

584
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:31,000
was used, and it's like I kept pausing it. I'm like,

585
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,759
I don't want to read all that, but like, like

586
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:36,319
you said, you got like a couple of Wally slaves

587
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,160
that were helping him through the tunnels and the dungeon

588
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,759
and whatnot, and you're like, all right, this is I'm

589
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,799
over it. Like I didn't want to watch anymore. But

590
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,519
then Briggs recommended it and I went through and last

591
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:51,680
night I watched the entire thing. No wait, and you know.

592
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: You're up at five am, dude.

593
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: That's exactly why I was. I was in the middle

594
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,400
of that last episode. I'm like, I hate myself for this.

595
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,839
Speaker 4: I believe that we're making Jordan watch this Isakai or

596
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,160
just anime in general again.

597
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: But you know, I actually didn't hate it as much

598
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,839
as the first time. It's not good in a lot

599
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,319
of ways. I have a lot of complaints, but I

600
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,839
think this is like the ultimate escapist Isakai in a

601
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,799
lot of ways. Right, Like you know, back that back then,

602
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:19,400
when it first came out, I was just starting the

603
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440
corporate life, all right, But now you know, I've been

604
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,160
in it for like five six years. I see him

605
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,079
thirty years old at the start of the anime, He's like,

606
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,559
you know what, this sucks. I'm gonna go to bed,

607
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,519
and then he wakes up and he's in a world

608
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,759
where you know, he instantly goes from like level one

609
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,960
to all his stats being maxed out, and then anything

610
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:42,720
he sees, anything at all. You could go from crafting

611
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,359
to freaking sewing to you know, to battle oriented stuff.

612
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,160
It's like, you know what, I see it once, I'm

613
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,920
gonna max that skill out. I have thousands of skill

614
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,559
points and he does that over and over again over

615
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:58,039
the course of the series, and it, Yeah, he can

616
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,720
pretty much do anything, right. It's not just powered. It

617
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,400
is like, you know what, I want to be the

618
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,279
number one basket weaver. You know what I saw somebody

619
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,279
we have a basket once, I am now a master

620
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:08,920
basket weaver.

621
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Funny.

622
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,759
Speaker 3: It's very unapologetic that way, right, And yeah, I don't know,

623
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,920
I don't want to like Yamaron for too long without

624
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,799
giving you guys a chance. But there's just so many

625
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,680
characters introduced all that once whatever he gets to start, right,

626
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:29,720
So like initially I'm like, I don't really care about

627
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,799
any of these characters, but you know, it's it's very unapologic,

628
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,960
apologetic and unabashed with it. Like the arc right after

629
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,920
that first one, uh, there's like seven homunky Li They

630
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,960
just they all start to follow him after that, right,

631
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
like the only thing with them with them the others

632
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:48,599
are going to join up later. But like, you know,

633
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,480
he's just kind of collecting women, right.

634
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: It's all these women or all these slaves that he buys.

635
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,559
They are such a waste of space, the most useless characters.

636
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,400
They are just there for the service part of things

637
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,279
pretty much, and they're not they're not even strong. Like

638
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,799
he does everything himself and they just follow him because

639
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440
he buys them and they call him master.

640
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: That's it.

641
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a lyrics to it.

642
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: I will say, there's not nearly as much like fan

643
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,119
service as I remember. There's like maybe a couple characters

644
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:22,880
where like the one that's the reincarnated girl or like

645
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,319
another girl that are kind of like that. But the

646
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:27,559
other is it literally is just like genuinely kids that

647
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:29,359
he's like now taken care of. So it's like he

648
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,160
was reborn in another world and now he's like a

649
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,720
babysitter or like a like a like an adoptive parent

650
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,240
of some kind. And he like he makes it very

651
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,119
clear over the course of the series. He's like, oh, yeah,

652
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,680
I'm not into Lawlly's, Like I'm not like he at

653
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,400
one point he's being charmed and like that's what STAPs

654
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,519
him out of it. He's like, what the heck, I'm

655
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:49,480
not into Lawy's. But then like ninety of the girls

656
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,920
in the show are like Lalli's that are just following

657
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,480
him around and whatnot. So it's like he literally just

658
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,400
becomes like the like the Daycared Dad or whatever like

659
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,519
that just takes care of everybody and does all the

660
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,039
household chores right like you. Yeah, is household chor skills

661
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:08,519
or max Style level one hundred. So it's it's a

662
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,119
bit weird. It has a bit of everything, but it's

663
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
because of that it's very unpredictable in a lot of ways.

664
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,759
Speaker 1: So predictable, but recon I thought you liked Max level

665
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,559
and massively overpower protagonists from the get go.

666
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,319
Speaker 2: Briggs, listen, I do some of them do it well.

667
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: But but what I'm saying is that in terms of

668
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,119
this show, it did it.

669
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: So it just didn't like the worst ways possible.

670
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:36,519
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why the controversill take here, and it's very

671
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:40,319
hypocritical of me. I hate Easter Kai Cheat Magician because

672
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,200
nothing happened in the first three episodes. I kind of

673
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,480
like Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody because nothing

674
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,400
happened in the first three episodes or very little. And

675
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,599
I don't know what's the difference. I don't know what's

676
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,759
the difference, but it was like it was just so slow.

677
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,839
It felt like a Slice of Life at time, and

678
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,200
like I was k I was sick in bed yesterday

679
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,839
and I just put it on. I usually stream my reactions,

680
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,480
and I was just like vibing a bit, and I'm like,

681
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,279
why am I vibing? The delivery is not as bad

682
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:17,519
as isakai? Obviously, I issikai chi munition. Obviously it wasn't good.

683
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,599
And I feel like by the end of the third episode,

684
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,079
when stuff actually started happening, I started to lose interest.

685
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,279
But for those like two and a half Slice of

686
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,799
Life episodes that I basically watched, I'm just like, this

687
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,799
is chill. I like this other world.

688
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: There's there's definitely segments throughout that are very Slice of

689
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,880
Life like, right, And I think somebody in the jack

690
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,480
kind of nailed it when they said Death March is

691
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:42,440
just kind of going with the flow. And that's what

692
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,359
I mean when I say it's unpredictable, right, Like you

693
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,359
don't really like parts of it are predictable. You know,

694
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,160
he's overpowered, you know there's not gonna be like true

695
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,039
threats because but like there's other things where the writing's

696
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,400
just kind of everywhere, so you don't quite know what's

697
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,279
gonna happen. Like there's a segment in the middle right

698
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,720
where he rescues a girl and like a rat that's

699
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,079
taking care of her, and she ends up being like

700
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:06,279
an Elvish princess, and so then she gets kidnapped by

701
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,519
like an undead king, and then he jumps in and

702
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:10,320
like has to go through two hundred floors to like

703
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,679
fight the undead king and then the undead kings like

704
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,400
that at least from KonoSuba where he's like, you know what,

705
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,719
I just wanted a hero to defeat me and then

706
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,320
my suffering. And then I'm like, but what did that

707
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,960
have to do with the Elvish girl? Like why you've

708
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,239
been tracking her down and killing the rats that are

709
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,000
guarding her for.

710
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Like months, Like what's that have to do with anything?

711
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: Like it didn't quite like it didn't flow together very

712
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,239
well at all as far as like some of the

713
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,000
plot points, like I don't understand how things are connected.

714
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,320
But because of that, like I don't know where it's

715
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,199
going right And then then you go into like more

716
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,920
slice of life stuf where they're just kind of shopping

717
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,360
around or just he's like I want to learn how

718
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,079
to do alchemy. I want to learn how to craft

719
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:49,360
this and that I could do pottery. I like it.

720
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,920
It keeps you on your toes, right, you don't know

721
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,239
what you're getting next, and because of that, it's it's

722
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
kind of an easy watch in some ways, not as uh,

723
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,559
not as straightforward as like a Isakaichi Magician, right, which, like,

724
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:03,559
like I said, is so bland that you just you

725
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,320
know what's going to happen basically.

726
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it is. Well, Isakai Cheat Magician

727
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,920
was also like what I said, that it does. It

728
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,480
does the tell not show. I just feel like he's

729
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,840
the guy of this world. It's a different world. It

730
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,079
wasn't it was very generic, but it was just like

731
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,159
he was kind of slowly discovering different things about it

732
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,800
and like just like a very light way, if that

733
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,760
makes sense. And obviously he's super overpowered, he learns everything

734
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,760
really quickly. But something about the vibe, I was just like,

735
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,599
I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Versus Isakai

736
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:35,840
Cheat Madician, I'm like, I hate it.

737
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so weird Death March as much I hate I

738
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,679
hate it Death March initially when I first tried to

739
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,480
watch it, but there's something about it that's like, maybe

740
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,320
it's because I watched it right after East Ky Cheat Magician,

741
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,800
like everything is good comparison, Oh my god, and then

742
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,440
you watch it and you're like, oh my god, this

743
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,119
is not nearly as bad. This is this is crazy.

744
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:59,400
So it's it's about adding perspective, right, Yeah, if you

745
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,880
watch the tra just to the trash, then you learn

746
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,639
to appreciate NID. So if that makes sense.

747
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do agree. I think me and Jordan do

748
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,480
have weird taste because I feel like I'm often very that.

749
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: You say you like the fact that you say you

750
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:14,719
like Death March, I don't like.

751
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:15,559
Speaker 4: I don't know how.

752
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like three to four, like it's

753
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,239
it's right, but like I don't know, it wasn't painful.

754
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Does that make sense, Like it wasn't completely painful.

755
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: I I do agree. I don't think it's good. I

756
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,199
just I do. I do agree. I do have interesting taste.

757
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,559
I find myself being very hypocritical a lot of the time,

758
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,199
or reasons why I don't like one show is the

759
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,360
same reason I like another. And it's like obviously delivery matters, dialogue,

760
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,599
voice acting, how they go about things, how if you

761
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,760
care about the characters or are invested in the story

762
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,719
prior to certain things happening. There's a lot of factors,

763
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,679
but yeah, I don't I don't know exactly why. I

764
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,360
will say I do you find just one. Usually most

765
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,320
of the time, if Recon dislikes something, I end up

766
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,239
liking it for whatever reason. And when he likes something,

767
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,079
I usually dislike it. Not always the case. There are

768
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:13,519
some absolutes like Berzerk is goaded and Ethicai cheat magicians terrible,

769
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:16,000
But yeah, it does tend to be that way. I

770
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,559
find it funny.

771
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:22,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, like as as bland, as like the UI was

772
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,360
and stuff. There was like aspects of the uh, the

773
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,639
presentation that was kind of interesting in Death March where

774
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,320
you see like the little map around and like, so

775
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480
there's parts of that that like it did feel like

776
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,440
he was, yeah, use filling out the map as he goes, right,

777
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,920
there's something satisfying about that. It's uh, it wasn't too

778
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,960
bad on on certain shots and certain presentations. So overall

779
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,199
four edgin not not the worst, right.

780
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do find I find it out, Like at

781
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,639
the end of the third episode when shit started to

782
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:55,119
get like more like like I don't know, like more intense,

783
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:58,480
like stuff was actually happening. I'm like, now I'm starting

784
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,480
to let not like I'm not vibing as much, which

785
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:03,559
is not like it's turning to feel part of that

786
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:04,320
when you checked out.

787
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know that's when I checked out on

788
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,960
the first time I watched it. Yeah, like I dipped

789
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,840
during that part, like don't worry breaks.

790
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,079
Speaker 4: He also brings a gun to the to the other

791
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,880
world and shooting.

792
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: It nice I do. I do feel like by the

793
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,760
end of that third episode when you see those things happening, like, Okay,

794
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,280
now it's gonna end up being predictable, which you're saying

795
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,119
it's not because it's bad, but it just at that point,

796
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,920
like that one's gonna be predictable up until now just

797
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,400
kind of like watching what they were showing me.

798
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: The writing is just so kind of everywhere in a

799
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
lot of ways. So there's parts of it that are predictable,

800
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,360
Like I think the arc after that's predictable, but like

801
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,599
there's like I said, did that arc with like the

802
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:43,159
Elvish girl being kidnapped by like the undead king. I'm

803
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,719
just like, but why, Like I like it didn't make

804
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,639
sense by the end, like it, you didn't know where

805
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,239
things were going, right, So it's.

806
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: I got a super good recommendation for next up to

807
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,360
getting all right.

808
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,199
Speaker 1: On that note, we are going to recommend three more

809
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:00,719
slash fantasy. It doesn't even need to be Kai specifically,

810
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,280
it could be a fantasy anime. We're gonna do that.

811
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,119
But next week, while we're watching these nine to twelve episodes,

812
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:10,599
we'll actually have a little bit of extra time. We're

813
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,480
gonna take a two week break before we talk about

814
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,039
Isakai again, so we'll have time to watch some more episodes.

815
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Next week, we're gonna be covering seasonal anime. I don't

816
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,480
want you guys to watch I mean, Recon's gonna watch everything,

817
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,320
but I'm probably gonna watch three or four anime from

818
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,920
the seasonal list, and then we're gonna talk about we're

819
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,440
gonna go through the entire anti chart next week, and

820
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,199
we're gonna force each other to maybe watch another three

821
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,039
or four or five or six anime, maybe even more

822
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,480
first maybe just first episodes, potentially check some stuff out

823
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,039
for the week after that, maybe or two weeks after that,

824
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,519
whatever it may be. So that's kind of the plan

825
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:51,480
for January Slash February seasonal anime and e Sakai.

826
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: Come watch us suffer watch anime?

827
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the good and the bad?

828
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Do you have a recommendation? Recon?

829
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,119
Speaker 4: Yes, how you do? And the anime that I want

830
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,199
you guys to watch for next time when we do

831
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:11,480
bad Isakai. It is called okasan online or in other terms,

832
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,599
my one hit Kill Mother.

833
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, one I've always heard a lot about, but

834
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:20,239
I've never actually watched.

835
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,639
Speaker 4: So there's two versions of this, actually my one hit

836
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,480
kill mother and mine one hit kill sister. But I

837
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,159
want you guys to watch the mother one.

838
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: So this is where he gets like with his mom, right.

839
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:32,199
Speaker 2: Like exactly, Yeah, okay.

840
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,119
Speaker 1: Jordan, right I have Do you have a recommendation?

841
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think you know, with all the seasonals

842
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,079
and whatnot, I want to recommend something I've at least

843
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:49,039
seen before. So I want to go with the familiar

844
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,079
of zero again. This is one I don't hate. I

845
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,840
have nostalgia for it. But it came out seen that one. Yeah,

846
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,559
it came out in twound and six before Recon started

847
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:01,079
watching anime. It's an and because that you guys might

848
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,159
hate it, right, you guys don't have that same nostalgia

849
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:03,840
I do, so.

850
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,199
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm excited to check it out, all.

851
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: Right, two thousand and six not bad.

852
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend the anime that I had another choice,

853
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,880
but seeing how everyone thought the Marcus's pick was so

854
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,920
bad in chat, I'm gonna go with She Professed Herself

855
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,320
People of the Wise Man.

856
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:27,079
Speaker 4: Oh God, I've seen this one shift, which means.

857
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,079
Speaker 1: That might end up liking it because Recon dislikes it,

858
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,679
unless it's so bad that we somehow agree. So those

859
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,119
those are anime we're watching. She Professed Herself, People the

860
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:42,280
Wise Man, One shot Mom and Jordan, what's yours again?

861
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 3: The familiar of zero? So I'll send a link of

862
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,079
it here after the.

863
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: So if you guys are masochists like us, I recommend

864
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,199
watching three to six episodes of these anime. Prepare yourself,

865
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:55,920
and in two weeks we will talk about it on

866
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,639
rac Cafe. The videos are now being uploaded to YouTube

867
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,320
once again, and we've all always been available on Spotify,

868
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,880
so Spotify is the place to watch it and the

869
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,119
fastest place to for it to be uploaded to. I

870
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:09,639
hope you guys enjoyed Chin Pocku and I'll see you

871
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,360
all next time bang

