Speaker 1: Yo, what is up?
Speaker 2: Boys?
Speaker 1: How's it going? And welcome back to another episode of
the ran Cafe Anime Podcast. Today we're talking about bad
Kai with me. Today we got Jordan the anime dude.
How's it going?
Speaker 3: Well, what's up? Everybody? Happy to be here? Yeah, it's
a It's Kai week. This what a fun way to
start twenty twenty six?
Speaker 2: Am I?
Speaker 1: Right? And this dude recommended Full Dive, the ultimate next
gen Full Dive RPG is even shittier than real life.
That's that's the title, and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it the whole thing every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have Recon, the king of bad taste,
here to recommend bad anime and he did a great job,
not surprisingly, actually not surprisingly Isa Kai cheat magician from Recon.
What up, dude? What up? Gamers?
Speaker 4: Your boy Recon is back and yeah, we're talking about
a lot of shitty Isakai. And my recommendation was Isakai
shit magician is what I like to call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I recommended death March to a Parallel World
raps Sody, whatever the hell it's called.
Speaker 4: A death march.
Speaker 3: Yeah, death March Full Dive.
Speaker 1: And where should start? Should we start with isakai. Cheap Magician,
I think that's a good place.
Speaker 3: To you guys, we can we can do that. Yeah,
I'm down.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not the worst isakai I've ever watched, but
it was pretty close. It was pretty bad. It was
very slowly paced, not a lot happened, and it just
I watched it and dubbed, which my condolence is to
whoever watched that and dubbed because the dialogue and voice
acting is not good. The word. We'll get into some
specific moments that we're just so cringe, but just general thoughts.
It just you know, they're both cracked pretty much right away.
Not a lot going on. It took like three episodes
to still do nothing.
Speaker 3: Jordan thoughts, Yeah, so this was a bit of a
weird one. Cheap Magician I recon said it was gonna
be bad, so there was a slight thought in the
back of my head that maybe it's good. And you know,
I feel like if we just go through all the
normal things we'd hear in a nissaki like, we're gonna
be repeating ourselves over and over again. But this is
one where more than any of the others, more than
almost anything I've ever seen. It just kind of follows
that typical is Ski formula without really trying to do
anything out of the ordinary. So it's not as bad
as I expected in a lot of ways. It's not
like bad bad, but it's like so bland and mediocre
that it's almost painful. Right. So it's like just it
kind of goes through those steps and hurdles and tribulations
that you would normally see in a Nissakai, but it's
like it's following plot points from plot point A, B,
C D, and it doesn't really care about the details
in between, and it's just very cookie cutter. I don't know.
It was kind of painful to watch. I had to
stop after like seven episodes.
Speaker 1: But you got the seven. Good for you, man, good
for you. You got the seven.
Speaker 3: I watched the first one in and that was I
had to stop like two or three times. Subbed and
it was a little bit easier, but it was You're
not wrong about the Uh the voice acting in that
first episode was so I'm not a voice actor. I
feel like I could have done a better job, Like
it felt like they were like reading a presentation in
like a college. Uh A college classroom where they're not
used to speech right, like they're trying to like learn
about public speaking as they as they One.
Speaker 1: Of my one do I go to like roasts is
when I when I hear dialogue that bad, I'm like,
this is some chat cheapyts dialogue. But it was before
chat cheepy Tea even came out. It really felt like
we've done some high school kid. Some high school kid
wrote a script and they're like, we need to fill
in lines. We don't want to get to the major
plot points yet. It's like, this girl is holding a
tennis racket. She plays tennis. Let's have a guy be like,
let me guess you're playing tennis today. It's like the
other there's other ways to bring up the tennis conversation
conversation than being like, let me guess she's holding a
fucking tennis racket. Of course he's playing tennis. At some
point it's like yeah, Or there's like a couple of
lines like there's this gigantic, fucking black obsidian horse that bleeds, breaths,
breathes fire, and the guy's dialogue was like this probably
isn't a normal, normal horse. No shit, a normal horse.
Speaker 3: There were so nonchalant about that situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's like a high school presentation or a
college presentation. Jordan, You're so right.
Speaker 3: It was like a fever dream. It was so weird.
Speaker 1: Go ahead ahead, No.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. It's like they're so focused on
getting from like plot point A to plot point B.
After riding out like a hard outline like a no,
you start to write, you'd write like I want to
get to hear and then to hear, and it's like
going in between. It's like the dialogue itself was to
get to that next point rather than feeling natural in
any sort of way. And and I have an example
of that I want to talk about from later in
the show. But before that, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Get to Dun's opinion and why he recommended it. I
know he recommended it because it was trash, and I
was asking for trash. She's a guy. One last complaint
I want to say is just this show is also
the epitome of tell not show for a long time.
It's like, we don't need all these discussions about the
world and the power system, like one okay, but it
was like three or four discussions in the first two
episodes about the world and the power system and like
what's happening when they could have just showed us, like
make them do a test and then get into some training.
We don't need to have three conversations about what's gonna
happen in training to show us. I have one compliment.
I have one compliment for this show, and it was
that they used the real world like science to apply
to her fire magic to like make it like larger.
She thought of gas like magic in this world involves
like visualization and like thinking about it. And since she
has knowledge of our world and how we could create
larger flames and explosions and such, see was able to
add that to her magic. And that's the only cool
thing out of the three episodes hour of content I watched. Okay,
recon any thoughts on this show? You recommended, Well.
Speaker 4: I recommend it obviously because it's one of the worst
the guy I've seen. It's like on par with what's
it called, Uh the smartphone?
Speaker 1: Is the guy smartphones? Very Smartphone's worst.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's like to me, it's like on par
These two are like one of the worst guys I've
ever seen. And you you guys pretty much covered the
points that I really wanted to talk about, because this show,
like you all said, it's bland. It looks like it's
written by some fucking fourteen year old or a high schooler.
It is the most generic, overpowered isakai shit that I've
ever seen.
Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, that's why that's I every much recommended it.
Speaker 4: I just want to see what you guys thought, and yeah,
you guys really did good at covering all the points.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of those things where I think
smartphone's worse in a lot of ways, but at least
smartphone tried to do something kind of unique, right, Like
it had a little bit of a he has a smartphone?
Like that that was the twist, Like it's not much,
but it's this phone's not even tried.
Speaker 1: They're like, isa kai is popular, right now, let's make
a cookie cutter fantasy isakai with like no creativity or well,
it was probably it came up pretty early on in
the isakai things, so they didn't probably probably didn't feel
like they needed to put a twist. But now that
we've seen so many, they need to add like some
type of twist. Otherwise it's just a copy and paste, right,
I will say the reason why Smartphone's worse is like
there are somehow even less steaks, which is impossible, and
like the characters are just so bland and boring, and
the our main character is even more overpowered. It's like
they just took everything to like the further extremes, while
this one has no extremes other than they have a
hot teacher. That's also one positives a hot teacher.
Speaker 3: Not wrong, You're not wrong. I did like the hot
teacher that and this one wasn't as bad as I
expected it to be initially as far as it did,
at least kind of you know, while going through those
motions and stuff. It's not like he was overpowered with
a harem right out the gate, right. They did have
to have some sort of training and even even though
it wasn't probably executed amazingly like a like they flashed
to her training with the with old girl and she's like,
this is how you do it. Fire, and then she
repeats it and she goes fire and then there's fire,
and it's like, yeah, she like played on it a
little bit more past that, but it's like, what did
you guys do the rest of the day. That was
we just like watch the entirety that you guys were
out there the whole day, and that was right.
Speaker 4: STUCKI also mentions Mayans and death Ability is so Overpowered
is also one of the worst.
Speaker 1: One of my buddies.
Speaker 3: It is tries to do like something kind of unique
with it, right.
Speaker 1: I did. I did say Mayans in Deathability is So
Overpowered was the worst anime I've ever dropped, which is
potentially worse than the worst anime I've ever finished, being
Smartphone Like, they're smartphone and in my Instant Deathability are
like we have to hang their jerseys up in the
rafter when we do with Isakai brats for the Worstai.
I don't think they're allowed to be in it. I
think they're the goats of being bad, and I think
we need to retire them into the Hall of fame.
Speaker 3: Oh no, see, I think you were the only one
that said Instant death Ability was bad. Though it was.
Speaker 4: It's it's not the worst, it's not the worst, but
smart to me, smartphone and shit magicians are way worse
than Debility.
Speaker 1: Instant Disability was so much more cringe. It hurt to watch. Yeah,
at least has nothing going for it. This has nothing
going for it versus my incent death ability has like
everything that it tried to do, it just did it worse.
It's better if they did nothing. I genuinely think it's
better if you do nothing. At this point, I guess.
Speaker 3: I don't know, so I know you didn't make it
this far into the series, But can I speak about
a moment's like in Cheap Magician that just kind of
took me out of it a little bit, Not that
I was ever fully in it, but because everything, like
I said, it's all the dialogue is very weird. They
get like an intrigue mission right where they need to
go gather intel, and even then they're they're not subtle
it like a four year old wrote the whole script, right,
but it leads down this plot line where you know
eventually they're they're the bad guys, are planning an attack
on the city, and main character going and investigating like
finds like these two lolly girls that uh have been
creating all these goblins, right, these goblins that are gonna
attack the city, and these girls are very apathetic about it.
They don't care at all. They're like, yep, these goblins
are gonna go up. They're gonna kill all the men
and children, they're gonna rape all the women, and like
they're just very matter of fact about it, right, and
it's like doesn't bother us, not our problem. As soon
as the goblins hatch they go after them, he saves them.
There's like he's like you're sorry now, right, They're like yes,
and it's like I think the point there where they're
like they eventually come to our side. But there it's
just so wishy washy about it. There's no nuanced in
the details about it. That's just like they're just forgiven instantly, right.
He just takes them along with and then it's just
like they're there. So it's like it's like, yes, it
feels matter right, Like it was such an extreme thing.
It's like like they were just about to destroy this
whole city and like they they barely got a slap
on the wrist if that, like I.
Speaker 1: Gave him that It sounds like a mom being mad
at the kid for doing like a small like a
small bad thing, and it's like say, you're sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I guess like I get it. You want to like
that's a trope and anime you got the bad guys.
The bad guys eventually turn to the good guys, like
it's probably a character you wanted on the main team
or something, but god, it was. It was just so
badly executed like that, like in the writing itself that
it just uh, it just took me out of it. Man,
it's just is too much, all right.
Speaker 1: I think we move on to Jordan's recommendation. Now, Full Dive,
the Ultimate ext gen Full Dive RPG is even shittier
than in real life. You do need to say that
full time every time. And I am disappointed Jordan that
you you you said this is a bad guy. It
was fantastic. I I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I can't just try to recommend the worst. I feel
like we talk recount took the assignment too literally, Like
I was like, I'm gonna recommend one that's just kind
of mediocre.
Speaker 1: Some people hate.
Speaker 4: I already knew this was a good anime, but I
just didn't want to say anything because I want I
wanted you guys to like hear your opinions. But I've
watched it fully this this anime is really good.
Speaker 3: So it's probably the same author as Overly Cautious Hero, right, like, yeah,
my top five guys, and uh, and you're I just
rewatched over the Caustious Hero, so I'm like, can I
recommend that one? You're like, no, that one's actually good
that I'm like yeah, And I'm like this one. It's
not nearly as good as Overly Coustious Hero, but like,
there's something there and I do think it's worth watching.
So I went ahead and tossed it out there. I
think it's kind of mediocre in comparison, but still interested
to get you guys's thoughts.
Speaker 1: So honestly, man, I was. I forgot that it was
created by the author of Overly Coustious Hero, and I
could see it. I could down in retrospect, see, like,
the reason I love Overly Cautious Hero is for the
comedy and the stupid moments, and I feel like this
series had a simil It's not the same, obviously, the
gimmick for Overly conference Hero is very different, but it
made me laugh and care at the same time in
a similar way. I really enjoyed it. I know some
people by chat did also dislike it, so it wasn't
like it's a beloved series and all three of us
might like it, but there were people in my chat
that didn't like the series. I love that that first
girl scamming our boy. I thought it was so funny.
I think she's a wholeus character, like you're not a
good person, but I think she's a hilarious character.
Speaker 3: Boobs she is.
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know what her name is, but I.
Speaker 4: Just called her the the game shop girl.
Speaker 1: Can you please remind not an eyelid. We're gonna go
through some events that happened, but recon I want to
hear your thoughts on full Dive.
Speaker 4: I watched it all the way back when it came
out week by week, finished it, and I found it
so funny and I really enjoyed it. I was surprised
that you recommended at Jordan, but I just didn't want
to really say anything. This anime, it's like the main
protagonist gets I still don't know why you say that's
an Isakai. First of all, it's not really an I.
Speaker 3: Mean, is that's the thing because they get.
Speaker 2: Trapped in the other world.
Speaker 4: But here he just puts on his head gear and
then plays the video game, and it's it's like that.
I mean the game he plays is like super super
realistic to the point where it feels like real life,
but at the same time, it's not really Aki.
Speaker 3: Is Shangri lat Frontier and Heisa Kai. You know, it's
it's one of the on it, right, I consider it a niskay.
It's a whole new world there.
Speaker 1: I guess I think it's I think it's borderline. It's
definitely borderline, but like if you're putting on VR and
it's so realistic that you're feeling the pain and the
consequences of the actions along with it being like, I
don't know at the end of the day, he is
going to another world. It's just a video game game.
Speaker 3: This is a bit of a spoiler, but they do
actually kind of poke fun at the whole essay oh
thing a little bit where it's like, oh my god,
don't tell me if I die in the game, like
I die and she's like, no, that that's silly even
reading too much manga. But it will fry your console
and break the game, like if you if you die,
like then there's no like redos, right, So it's it
doesn't feel exactly like just a video game. It like
it tries to make it as close to real life
as possible, right, which kind of destroys the, uh, the
whole escapist aspect of it that he had been kind
of using games for.
Speaker 1: So dude, I loved the first episode where he gets
transported to the world and he ends up killing his friend.
But then afterwards when the friend killer, when the girl
finally joins in, she's like, so, how is like your
time with your friend? Like, how is the apple picking?
Did you guys have a good time? Meanwhile, he's been
fucking running for his life and he just murdered his
friend accidentally, and she's like, oh, did you skip the
apple picking and have fun with your childhood friend? Did
you guys do naughty stuff? And he just, like the
entire place wants to kill me, like like the extremes
were so funny.
Speaker 4: She yeah, she's she's going yonder E mode. To be honest,
I think she is a yonder.
Speaker 3: A little bit because she she's a I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, because I think she was in love with
her brother and then the fact that he just killed
him and she's like going crazy.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't think she loved as a brother.
Speaker 4: It's not but anyway, no, it's not related, but yeah,
he gets scammed into buying this uh, super realistic game
that nobody's really playing. And she then joins him later on.
Speaker 2: As his little quote unquote helper.
Speaker 4: As a little fairy, which is her fucking avatar of
a playable character, and she just goes around helping him
out and he's and he's like trying to do his
best to beat the shitty game. So he looks up
a guide online. Oh my god, that was so yeah,
he just he finds the guide, but this dude is
such an asshole.
Speaker 1: Dude, that guy, it was like, you couldn't beat it
by yourself, that's why you came to meet And it's like, well,
if you if you're stuck in this situation, you should
probably just die in a fire or kill yourself. But
if you decide to keep with life, you could also
you know, grab the sword in your room. You for
needing a tutorial. I fucking love it, Like it's just
my humor.
Speaker 4: He was watching a guide of someone who beat the game,
and he's just trash talking him all the time to
get him like.
Speaker 1: He's he's trying to get him serious.
Speaker 4: He's trying to like so fucking funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, over the course. Also hilarious that if you die
in if you die in the game, you can buy
a whole new clubsole to play again.
Speaker 3: He was pissed about that, right, She's like, we have
him for sale at the game store for this and now, oh,
you freaking wustler over here.
Speaker 1: This is I would probably play it at least once.
I would play it at least once.
Speaker 3: My concert.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how far did you guys get.
Did you finish the whole thing?
Speaker 1: I watched five episodes five.
Speaker 2: Episodes, so I probably shouldn't really talk more. To be honest,
a lot you guys should continue it to me.
Speaker 3: On the whole plot point. I finished it a long
time ago, and then I recovered everything just here recent
But so this.
Speaker 1: Is why I do want you to try to like
just like maybe skim a little bit. That's the first
three epis. We're recommending things. Unfortunately, guyscon has seen everything,
like unless we recommend yeah, like I could recommend vision
of Escaflonia if you'd like recon, but I know you
don't want me to recommend that. Don't worry about it.
I is it technically an vision, No, it's just fantasy.
I can't remember same on like this like eighties.
Speaker 4: What you guys are talking here, Please don't recommend me that.
Speaker 1: But so in regards to watching newer Fantasy and Kai,
for example, you've seen them all. So we're gonna have
me and most Me and most Most, Me and Jordan
are gonna be the newbs here watching the first three
to five episodes, if you could just like refresh your
memory on the first three to five briefly so we
don't like get spoiled. I do want to I want
to finish Full Dive, but I still want to have
a conversation about like kind of our first impressions and
some things that happened. So I would not recommend Cheap Magician,
but I would recommend Full Dive.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, Full Dive is very good. So
like with Overly Cautious Hero, you know, there's gonna be
a lot of crazy plot twists and whatnot in Full Dive,
Like I think the dude is genuinely a good writer,
and there's a lot you can still talk about without
ever spoiling any of those. So I just thought it
was so interesting that, like Overly Cautious Hero, I think
the anime adapted like the first two volumes and there's
like seven out really been on hiatus for five years. Yeah,
So it's like one of those where I think he's
kind of he always puts himself in these tough scenarios
where everything's so hard that I feel like he kind
of backs himself into a like a writer's corner and
like a writer's block and whatnot. And it's one of
those things where like he I think there was like
announcements in twenty twenty four that it was gonna be
coming back, and then it just kind of hasn't. So
it's so interesting to me that, like, as good of
a writer as he is, this whole series focused around
or Full Dive. The series focused around a character who's
in real life kind of quitting things that he's good
at and likes to do, and he's he always runs
away from things, right, So it's like him learning to
face those those things because he's, you know, rather than
playing escapist video games, he's having to deal with one
that's like very you know, very similar part and parcel
to real life. Right, So it's like if running away
causes problems in real life, it's also causing problems in
the game, so having to face things and and try
to actually go towards an ending. You know, it's not
only like an arc and theme that's kind of covered
in this series, but I feel like it's kind of
representative of the author, right, Like he wrote himself into
a corner and overly Cautious here, he's like, you know what,
I want to write a series about a character that
also has trouble finishing things, but you know he's going
to find the way to do it, so it breaks.
Speaker 2: What episode did you get to in Full Dive?
Speaker 1: So for Full Dive, I think I watched episode five,
so I do remember there was a funny torture scene
where he pissed his pants, but they related into like
his backstory where oh yeah, he ran track and he
pissed his pants. I do think I remember this author.
This author, he didn't take this super seriously, but he
blends like comedy with like some deeper moments really well,
especially in Overly Cautious Hero. I think Overly Cautious Hero
is my favorite HESU guy of all time, and this
has moments that remind me of it. I don't know
how exactly to put it, because obviously I do think
like the like the pissing parallel one to one whatever,
a little bit rushed or maybe lackluster. Yeah, but I
do like the overall idea that he's going for. Like
Jordan said, he quit something in real life and now
he's stuck in this game that's probably a million times
harder in this unrealistic situation that he's like stuck in
and he's slowly I'm hoping he's gonna keep on playing
and like overcome it, and by doing that will allow
him to relate that to his actual life. I feel
like that's what he's going for.
Speaker 3: I like the very possible keeps you guessing right. This
one's also not finished, so I kind of overtho.
Speaker 1: He has seven light novels and it only covered the
first one only Adam I only cover two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it could start to what I've heard I
need the like I've thought about reading it.
Speaker 1: But uh, do you like overly consciouseral more than Kono
Suba soor I just answers this question significantly more.
Speaker 3: Like I've con a super in my Big three, but
I have overly cautious hero still like in my top five,
So like it's.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm to be honest, it's just comedy at
the end of the day, like there was comedy. There's
very few anime that make me laugh out loud, and
there's very few anim that make me laugh out loud
consistently from episode to episode, and overly cautious here pulled
that off for like eight episodes. Some people say it
gets repetitive, and I do kind of agree, but it
was It's just my type of humor, I guess. And
then like after eight episodes, out of nowhere, it just
like became an actually extremely well written, deep show that
made me care and like feel emotions and I'm like,
I want more. Very I don't know. I can't think
of a comedic or ek eye anime that has gotten
me to care to that degree and laughter that degree.
Speaker 3: That's the thing is, it doesn't It's not just out
of nowhere, right, like are you watching it? And stuff?
The amount of foreshadowing in it, like throughout it's very
subtle and.
Speaker 2: Will be dispatched, combatants will be dispatched.
Speaker 3: I watched that at the same time as Full Dive.
I did this. I went down that rabbit where I'm like,
I know if you've seen.
Speaker 2: That breaks it's also by the author who did come
sub but it's it's not as funny. It's still good though,
and they kind.
Speaker 3: Of have that Full Dive in the same boat, right,
probably not quite as good, but still good.
Speaker 1: Nice. Any any other thoughts on full dive?
Speaker 2: Guys, finish it, just just finish it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to spoil anything big, but yeah,
just I do want to appreciate just how this author
kind of you know, he tackles subjects that seem serious
and like like a have deeper meaning, but he does
so in a, you know, a way that's just having
fun with it. So like I do think episode three was, uh,
you know, you either love it or hate it in
this series as far as he's like, oh I'm getting
this warning I pop up warning of like is this
my adult moment? Is this? Like is this the the
game where the game shines? And now it's just a
legitimate torture scene, right, Like that's that's what it meant.
And uh and he pees himself and then you know,
maybe they shouldn't have gone with a one to one parallel,
but that's it's just not taking itself too seriously, right, So.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, a one to one parallel also done like
back to back right away. It's like it could have
I don't know, I feel like it could have had
some more subtle to your nuance, but it didn't.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: Also, there's something about like there's something about like a
pissing yourself PTSD flashback though, Yeah, that fits with the humor, right,
So depending on how you play it.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Death March to the Parallel World
rap sooty was is my recommendation. I don't be a
I never saw this before, or maybe one episode a
long time ago. I just kind of googled what's the worst?
He's the kai of all time and then went on
to Reddit and people were like just like talking about
bad Sky and someone said death March, and I don't
think it's the worst of all time. It wasn't that good.
I do want to hear your thoughts. Primarily, I did
have one question. So this is basically our main guy
is a programmer in the real world and he's super
super overworked and then he goes to bed and he
wakes up in another world. Did he die because he's
overworked or did he like fucking wait what heck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he dies, he dies of overwork.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that soumed oh like it does never
explicitly say that one of those. He doesn't quite know
how he got there. So there is you know, in
the series, we do meet other people that were reincarnated
or isakai and whatnot, and they typically go over two
different ways that it happens. You know, either you're summoned
or yeah, or you're reincarnated. And whenever people are reincarnated
by dying, they're like born as a baby and grow up.
He's like, I don't really fall into either of those categories.
So it's one of those where we don't know. Yeah,
we don't know. So there's a lot of stuff kind
of up in the air that doesn't quite uh pin
one to one with this series as you're following the
plot threads, so it could go anywhere with that. So
there was a season two announced like a year ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.
Speaker 4: It's coming, it's getting a second shot.
Speaker 1: Guys, What did you think of my recommendation?
Speaker 4: It is one of the worst, is why breaks I
watched it long ago when it came out. Also, you
know me being a seasonal watcher. It's just your average
generic overpowered protagonist from the get go, who gets Isachai
to the world, rains down fucking the hell on all those.
Speaker 5: Stampeding lizards, and then proceeds to venture out the deep
open world, buys himself some nice slaves, and then just
flexes on everyone, shoots his guns.
Speaker 4: On bosses, and he's pretty much just undefeatable. All the
fights are so one sided. The whole show is so
damn predictable. And yes it's also a harem, because why not.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Jordan's yeah, what else do you want me
to say?
Speaker 3: So, I actually I hated this one initially. Whenever it
first came out. I watched a few episodes Back then.
I think I was in like the dungeon diving part
where pop ups keep popping up left and right, and
like it's like this skill was acquired and this ability
was used, and it's like I kept pausing it. I'm like,
I don't want to read all that, but like, like
you said, you got like a couple of Wally slaves
that were helping him through the tunnels and the dungeon
and whatnot, and you're like, all right, this is I'm
over it. Like I didn't want to watch anymore. But
then Briggs recommended it and I went through and last
night I watched the entire thing. No wait, and you know.
Speaker 1: You're up at five am, dude.
Speaker 3: That's exactly why I was. I was in the middle
of that last episode. I'm like, I hate myself for this.
Speaker 4: I believe that we're making Jordan watch this Isakai or
just anime in general again.
Speaker 3: But you know, I actually didn't hate it as much
as the first time. It's not good in a lot
of ways. I have a lot of complaints, but I
think this is like the ultimate escapist Isakai in a
lot of ways. Right, Like you know, back that back then,
when it first came out, I was just starting the
corporate life, all right, But now you know, I've been
in it for like five six years. I see him
thirty years old at the start of the anime, He's like,
you know what, this sucks. I'm gonna go to bed,
and then he wakes up and he's in a world
where you know, he instantly goes from like level one
to all his stats being maxed out, and then anything
he sees, anything at all. You could go from crafting
to freaking sewing to you know, to battle oriented stuff.
It's like, you know what, I see it once, I'm
gonna max that skill out. I have thousands of skill
points and he does that over and over again over
the course of the series, and it, Yeah, he can
pretty much do anything, right. It's not just powered. It
is like, you know what, I want to be the
number one basket weaver. You know what I saw somebody
we have a basket once, I am now a master
basket weaver.
Speaker 1: Funny.
Speaker 3: It's very unapologetic that way, right, And yeah, I don't know,
I don't want to like Yamaron for too long without
giving you guys a chance. But there's just so many
characters introduced all that once whatever he gets to start, right,
So like initially I'm like, I don't really care about
any of these characters, but you know, it's it's very unapologic,
apologetic and unabashed with it. Like the arc right after
that first one, uh, there's like seven homunky Li They
just they all start to follow him after that, right,
like the only thing with them with them the others
are going to join up later. But like, you know,
he's just kind of collecting women, right.
Speaker 4: It's all these women or all these slaves that he buys.
They are such a waste of space, the most useless characters.
They are just there for the service part of things
pretty much, and they're not they're not even strong. Like
he does everything himself and they just follow him because
he buys them and they call him master.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a lyrics to it.
Speaker 3: I will say, there's not nearly as much like fan
service as I remember. There's like maybe a couple characters
where like the one that's the reincarnated girl or like
another girl that are kind of like that. But the
other is it literally is just like genuinely kids that
he's like now taken care of. So it's like he
was reborn in another world and now he's like a
babysitter or like a like a like an adoptive parent
of some kind. And he like he makes it very
clear over the course of the series. He's like, oh, yeah,
I'm not into Lawlly's, Like I'm not like he at
one point he's being charmed and like that's what STAPs
him out of it. He's like, what the heck, I'm
not into Lawy's. But then like ninety of the girls
in the show are like Lalli's that are just following
him around and whatnot. So it's like he literally just
becomes like the like the Daycared Dad or whatever like
that just takes care of everybody and does all the
household chores right like you. Yeah, is household chor skills
or max Style level one hundred. So it's it's a
bit weird. It has a bit of everything, but it's
because of that it's very unpredictable in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: So predictable, but recon I thought you liked Max level
and massively overpower protagonists from the get go.
Speaker 2: Briggs, listen, I do some of them do it well.
Speaker 4: But but what I'm saying is that in terms of
this show, it did it.
Speaker 2: So it just didn't like the worst ways possible.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why the controversill take here, and it's very
hypocritical of me. I hate Easter Kai Cheat Magician because
nothing happened in the first three episodes. I kind of
like Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody because nothing
happened in the first three episodes or very little. And
I don't know what's the difference. I don't know what's
the difference, but it was like it was just so slow.
It felt like a Slice of Life at time, and
like I was k I was sick in bed yesterday
and I just put it on. I usually stream my reactions,
and I was just like vibing a bit, and I'm like,
why am I vibing? The delivery is not as bad
as isakai? Obviously, I issikai chi munition. Obviously it wasn't good.
And I feel like by the end of the third episode,
when stuff actually started happening, I started to lose interest.
But for those like two and a half Slice of
Life episodes that I basically watched, I'm just like, this
is chill. I like this other world.
Speaker 3: There's there's definitely segments throughout that are very Slice of
Life like, right, And I think somebody in the jack
kind of nailed it when they said Death March is
just kind of going with the flow. And that's what
I mean when I say it's unpredictable, right, Like you
don't really like parts of it are predictable. You know,
he's overpowered, you know there's not gonna be like true
threats because but like there's other things where the writing's
just kind of everywhere, so you don't quite know what's
gonna happen. Like there's a segment in the middle right
where he rescues a girl and like a rat that's
taking care of her, and she ends up being like
an Elvish princess, and so then she gets kidnapped by
like an undead king, and then he jumps in and
like has to go through two hundred floors to like
fight the undead king and then the undead kings like
that at least from KonoSuba where he's like, you know what,
I just wanted a hero to defeat me and then
my suffering. And then I'm like, but what did that
have to do with the Elvish girl? Like why you've
been tracking her down and killing the rats that are
guarding her for.
Speaker 1: Like months, Like what's that have to do with anything?
Speaker 3: Like it didn't quite like it didn't flow together very
well at all as far as like some of the
plot points, like I don't understand how things are connected.
But because of that, like I don't know where it's
going right And then then you go into like more
slice of life stuf where they're just kind of shopping
around or just he's like I want to learn how
to do alchemy. I want to learn how to craft
this and that I could do pottery. I like it.
It keeps you on your toes, right, you don't know
what you're getting next, and because of that, it's it's
kind of an easy watch in some ways, not as uh,
not as straightforward as like a Isakaichi Magician, right, which, like,
like I said, is so bland that you just you
know what's going to happen basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it is. Well, Isakai Cheat Magician
was also like what I said, that it does. It
does the tell not show. I just feel like he's
the guy of this world. It's a different world. It
wasn't it was very generic, but it was just like
he was kind of slowly discovering different things about it
and like just like a very light way, if that
makes sense. And obviously he's super overpowered, he learns everything
really quickly. But something about the vibe, I was just like,
I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Versus Isakai
Cheat Madician, I'm like, I hate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so weird Death March as much I hate I
hate it Death March initially when I first tried to
watch it, but there's something about it that's like, maybe
it's because I watched it right after East Ky Cheat Magician,
like everything is good comparison, Oh my god, and then
you watch it and you're like, oh my god, this
is not nearly as bad. This is this is crazy.
So it's it's about adding perspective, right, Yeah, if you
watch the tra just to the trash, then you learn
to appreciate NID. So if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do agree. I think me and Jordan do
have weird taste because I feel like I'm often very that.
Speaker 2: You say you like the fact that you say you
like Death March, I don't like.
Speaker 4: I don't know how.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like three to four, like it's
it's right, but like I don't know, it wasn't painful.
Does that make sense, Like it wasn't completely painful.
Speaker 1: I I do agree. I don't think it's good. I
just I do. I do agree. I do have interesting taste.
I find myself being very hypocritical a lot of the time,
or reasons why I don't like one show is the
same reason I like another. And it's like obviously delivery matters, dialogue,
voice acting, how they go about things, how if you
care about the characters or are invested in the story
prior to certain things happening. There's a lot of factors,
but yeah, I don't I don't know exactly why. I
will say I do you find just one. Usually most
of the time, if Recon dislikes something, I end up
liking it for whatever reason. And when he likes something,
I usually dislike it. Not always the case. There are
some absolutes like Berzerk is goaded and Ethicai cheat magicians terrible,
But yeah, it does tend to be that way. I
find it funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like as as bland, as like the UI was
and stuff. There was like aspects of the uh, the
presentation that was kind of interesting in Death March where
you see like the little map around and like, so
there's parts of that that like it did feel like
he was, yeah, use filling out the map as he goes, right,
there's something satisfying about that. It's uh, it wasn't too
bad on on certain shots and certain presentations. So overall
four edgin not not the worst, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do find I find it out, Like at
the end of the third episode when shit started to
get like more like like I don't know, like more intense,
like stuff was actually happening. I'm like, now I'm starting
to let not like I'm not vibing as much, which
is not like it's turning to feel part of that
when you checked out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know that's when I checked out on
the first time I watched it. Yeah, like I dipped
during that part, like don't worry breaks.
Speaker 4: He also brings a gun to the to the other
world and shooting.
Speaker 1: It nice I do. I do feel like by the
end of that third episode when you see those things happening, like, Okay,
now it's gonna end up being predictable, which you're saying
it's not because it's bad, but it just at that point,
like that one's gonna be predictable up until now just
kind of like watching what they were showing me.
Speaker 3: The writing is just so kind of everywhere in a
lot of ways. So there's parts of it that are predictable,
Like I think the arc after that's predictable, but like
there's like I said, did that arc with like the
Elvish girl being kidnapped by like the undead king. I'm
just like, but why, Like I like it didn't make
sense by the end, like it, you didn't know where
things were going, right, So it's.
Speaker 4: I got a super good recommendation for next up to
getting all right.
Speaker 1: On that note, we are going to recommend three more
slash fantasy. It doesn't even need to be Kai specifically,
it could be a fantasy anime. We're gonna do that.
But next week, while we're watching these nine to twelve episodes,
we'll actually have a little bit of extra time. We're
gonna take a two week break before we talk about
Isakai again, so we'll have time to watch some more episodes.
Next week, we're gonna be covering seasonal anime. I don't
want you guys to watch I mean, Recon's gonna watch everything,
but I'm probably gonna watch three or four anime from
the seasonal list, and then we're gonna talk about we're
gonna go through the entire anti chart next week, and
we're gonna force each other to maybe watch another three
or four or five or six anime, maybe even more
first maybe just first episodes, potentially check some stuff out
for the week after that, maybe or two weeks after that,
whatever it may be. So that's kind of the plan
for January Slash February seasonal anime and e Sakai.
Speaker 4: Come watch us suffer watch anime?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the good and the bad?
Speaker 1: Do you have a recommendation? Recon?
Speaker 4: Yes, how you do? And the anime that I want
you guys to watch for next time when we do
bad Isakai. It is called okasan online or in other terms,
my one hit Kill Mother.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, one I've always heard a lot about, but
I've never actually watched.
Speaker 4: So there's two versions of this, actually my one hit
kill mother and mine one hit kill sister. But I
want you guys to watch the mother one.
Speaker 3: So this is where he gets like with his mom, right.
Speaker 2: Like exactly, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Jordan, right I have Do you have a recommendation?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think you know, with all the seasonals
and whatnot, I want to recommend something I've at least
seen before. So I want to go with the familiar
of zero again. This is one I don't hate. I
have nostalgia for it. But it came out seen that one. Yeah,
it came out in twound and six before Recon started
watching anime. It's an and because that you guys might
hate it, right, you guys don't have that same nostalgia
I do, so.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm excited to check it out, all.
Speaker 2: Right, two thousand and six not bad.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend the anime that I had another choice,
but seeing how everyone thought the Marcus's pick was so
bad in chat, I'm gonna go with She Professed Herself
People of the Wise Man.
Speaker 4: Oh God, I've seen this one shift, which means.
Speaker 1: That might end up liking it because Recon dislikes it,
unless it's so bad that we somehow agree. So those
those are anime we're watching. She Professed Herself, People the
Wise Man, One shot Mom and Jordan, what's yours again?
Speaker 3: The familiar of zero? So I'll send a link of
it here after the.
Speaker 1: So if you guys are masochists like us, I recommend
watching three to six episodes of these anime. Prepare yourself,
and in two weeks we will talk about it on
rac Cafe. The videos are now being uploaded to YouTube
once again, and we've all always been available on Spotify,
so Spotify is the place to watch it and the
fastest place to for it to be uploaded to. I
hope you guys enjoyed Chin Pocku and I'll see you
all next time bang