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and James Bubo Fay Bubbo.

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Speaker 2: How you doing man?

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Speaker 3: We had a loss and we had a couple losses

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again this week in the bigfoot community. Unfortunately lost Brent Thomas,

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the host of Paranormal Portal, longtime Bigfoot and UFO and

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all cryptids and paranormal kind of stuff, but he was

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a big foot that was his main gig. Great guys

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on his show a couple of times. Yeah, you know,

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we stayed in touch over the years and he's a

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really good dude. And then we lost Stan Courtney. I'm

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one of the original audio guys from the BFRO Midwest Researcher.

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Good guy. We got in the film them several times.

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He was on the show Finding Bigfoot. Was our contact

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out there and he was another buddy for a long time,

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you know, twenty year friend. We lost him too, So

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our condolences to all the family and friends of those too.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 5: And actually, while we're talking about that, not to bring

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everybody else down, but there was another loss to the

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Bigfoot community that quietly slipped away in April that I

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haven't been talking about so much, that definitely deserves recognition

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and made a profound impact on the Bigfoot community even

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though he wasn't technically a bigfooter. He was because he

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did so much Bigfoot stuff, but he wasn't really a bigfooter.

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And that of course is Dennis Hereford. Dennis Hereford, the

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sheriff that casts the Hereford Cast in nineteen eighty two,

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he did on site Bigfoot investigations. He passed away. Cancer

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got him on April eighteenth, twenty twenty six. That death

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went completely unnoticed by the Bigfoot Commune, but I wanted

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to draw some attention to it now.

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Speaker 6: Very sorry to hear that. Definitely sorry about Brent and Stan.

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I never got to meet Brent, but I did meet

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Stan Courtney, and you know, he was very kind and

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very enjoyable to speak with, and so I know he

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was very close with a number of BFRO people for

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a long time and other researchers too. But all will

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definitely be missed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, already recently, you may everybody our listeners may have

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heard about a recent report up in Idaho. It was

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a Class A report and if it's on the BFRO

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dot net website, links will be down below in the

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show notes if you're interested. It is report number eight

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one two zero two teenage campers stalked by a group

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of Sasquatches sixteen miles northwest of McCall in Payette National Forest.

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Very very fresh report. It was May twenty fourth that

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this encounter happened. In twenty twenty six, Moneymaker called me

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and asked if I would like to join Jonathan Easley,

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the primary investigator of this case, and Matt and all

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of the witnesses, which was quite a thing, man, because

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there's a lot of witnesses involved. I'm not even sure,

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like six or eight or something, but we all hopped

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on a call. So we have a lot of primary

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source here available for our podcast in the form of

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snippets from the actual witness's mouth. And we also have

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Jonathan easily on the line, fresh back from the location

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and has investigated this report deeper.

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Speaker 2: Than I have.

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Speaker 5: But Jonathan, thank you so much for coming out of

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the woods and joining us on Bigfoot and Beyond.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, glad to be on. Thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 3: That was so Jonathan that you're coming aboard.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, glad to be on.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Just before we get too deep into this particular report,

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I do want to mention that Jonathan has his own

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YouTube page and it is called Western Bigfoot Exploration. Again,

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links will be in the show notes.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the ones when you always ask little

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or battle lash what you two chells? Yeah, this is

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pretty good. I'll check his out.

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Speaker 2: He's got some do ones on there. Excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 5: So so this report, Jonathan, would you want us to

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get us a rundown of basically what happened because there's

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a lot of details and ins and outs and this

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and that's and people involved. But the gist of it

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is basically they saw a sasquatch or a couple sasquatches

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over a period of like two days if I remember right,

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Speaker 2: That's correct? Yeah, it was a Memorial Day weekend, and

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it's up in a place called a Lost Valley Reservoir,

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and they're camping at a spot that a few of

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those members have been camping at for a very long time.

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guess it was a group of ten friends that were

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had sasquatches walk into camp. The article says stalk them,

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and well, I think it's a bit dramatic. It's not wrong,

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because there was there were two campsites that they were

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based at. They had like I think seventy five percent

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of the people at one campsite and a few individuals

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at the other campsite, and both campsites were visited by sasquatch.

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one thing happened during the day. Now i'd say multiple

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people claimed to have seen figures moving through the bushes.

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haven't seen before, your mind kind of conflates things to

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be a lot larger and closer. So you know, his

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description was ten to fifteen feet away and about nine

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feet tall.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, they had multiple sightings. They also had a

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few pictures that they supplied. Handprints on a car potential footprint,

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and yeah, they all kind of told the same story

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the same way. They were even jumping in and giving

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details that maybe the other person wasn't giving. They were

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making small corrections, so it seems like a very plausible

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story that really did occur, all right, So this seemed

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like a good time to cut in and introduce the

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next segment. So, like they mentioned, there was a lengthy

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interview that Matt Moneymaker, Jonathan Easley and did with many

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of the witnesses of this Idaho incident, and they recorded

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that over zoom. So there was a lot of information there,

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a lot of different voices speaking at the same time.

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most relevant segments and the ones that were the most

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or stepping over each other. So enjoy this segment where

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you will hear directly from the witnesses about what they

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saw and heard out there in Idaho.

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Speaker 4: This is Matt Moneymaker with the Bigfoot Field Researchers organization.

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This call and recording. Is it reference to the report

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that made news that we posted on the BFRO site

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that happened on Memorial Day weekend, and this is up

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about sixteen miles northwest of McCall in the Payett National Forest.

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So there were ten people there all together, and not

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everybody had a visual siding. But we're still we want

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to try to learn You guys can actually help us

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learn a lot about the behavior of these critters, about

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what they did and how they reacted to you. So

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we're going to ask questions to kind of help bring

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that out, help us kind of understand how they operate

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and what they react to and what they do when

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they react. But I'll start off with this, had you,

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guys ever camped in this area before, had any of

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you or all of you as a crew? Yeah, what

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was the weather like up there when you went this time?

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Like the temperature, cloud cover, wind, Tell me about that.

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Speaker 7: It was really nice, clear skies, you know, it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what time did you end up getting there to

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the camp area?

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Speaker 7: Probably about nine o'clock Friday evening.

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Speaker 4: How long after you got there did the first thing

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happen either sound or visual that you think might have

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Speaker 7: Friday after midnight? Like one in the.

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Speaker 4: Morning, one in the morning, And what happened?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 7: We were meet here.

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Speaker 8: Colton and Corey were sitting around the fire while everybody

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else was in a sleep in their tents and the

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camper cars.

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Speaker 7: You know, we were.

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Speaker 8: Sitting there just kind of having fun, you know, just

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salking the stars. And I looked over at behind Daniel

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Bailey's tent and I saw a tall, dark figure and

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I thought it was just the one's messing with me.

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Speaker 7: But then they explained when they saw it.

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Speaker 8: It was tall, like seven eight feet tall, you know,

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black figure behind Daniel Bailey's tent.

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Speaker 4: How far behind? How far from the tent?

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Speaker 7: Was it ten feet?

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Speaker 4: I was right behind the tent pretty much.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was kind of by our bathroom bucket.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Was the camp in a clearing among the among

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the trees or was it under trees?

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Speaker 7: It was mainly clear.

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Speaker 4: It was clear. Now, did on the edges, like are

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in the tree line around you? What's there what's called

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thick edge growth that made like a curtain where it

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was difficult to see back in the brush. Or could

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you in the daylight, would you be able to easily

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see back into the trees?

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Speaker 7: In the daylight, you'd be able to see back in

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Speaker 4: Okay, So It's not like the tent was near a

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bunch of tree cover where the thing that easily cut

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like could come to the edge of the tree cover.

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behind the tent, it would have been very exposed. Yes,

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was it holding still when you saw And how long

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did you see it?

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Speaker 7: Thirty seconds or so? And I looked away, and I

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looked back it was gone.

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Speaker 4: And how far were you away from the tent? How

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far did you were you away from the creature in

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Speaker 7: Twenty thirty feet away?

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Speaker 4: Oh, you were pretty close. Did you hear anything that

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night or did any any anything else happened before the

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Speaker 7: Bailey? I heard knocking.

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Speaker 4: Bailey heard knocking, and late in the middle of an.

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was a Friday going into Saturday, when we had first

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saturround the campfire, that was the first night street to knocking.

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Speaker 7: And then she heard it again Sunday night, go going

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it to Monday around three a.

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Speaker 4: Like how far from the camp was it.

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Speaker 9: Honestly don't know, but it was pretty loud and like

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it sounded like someone was just like a person like

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one of us was knocking on the tree, and then

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he was like, that wasn't any of us. And then

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I looked and everyone was still like all around us,

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and I was like, okay, well that wasn't any of us.

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Speaker 4: This was it like three in the morning.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we woke up with our baby and I heard

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it and I was like, babe, what was that? And

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he was like, I don't know, Like we just thought

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someone was walking around the campsite, like we thought one

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of them was up walking around. And then the next

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morning when we all got up and they all came out,

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we asked them and they were like, no, that wasn't

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any of us.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's move into the next day, Saturday.

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thing that happened? You think might have been connected, like

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either visual or sound?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, he all though, arguing to be honest with.

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Speaker 4: You, Okay, what do you mean you mean that was sounds?

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But the arguing with sounds that you gu guys will

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make it, yes, okay, And he was during an argument.

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What happened during the argument somebody walked off? How did

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that lead to the next Bigfoot related today.

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Speaker 2: The next thing that happened was towards the nighttime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing happened during the day on Saturday back No, okay,

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Speaker 10: Night basically the same thing that happened Friday night, like

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just all the sounds and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it really got interesting was Sunday night Monday morning.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, let's let's take it one of let's cover

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what happened on Saturday. What were the sounds you heard

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Speaker 9: Whistling, knocking, like, yeah, trees falling, and like snapping, like

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someone just like took a stick and just snapped it.

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Speaker 4: Can you heard what sounded like a tree being pushed over?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: How many of those?

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Speaker 2: Four?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You heard four tree pushovers roughly? And how how far

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away were they from you?

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Speaker 2: It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 4: Did they sound any of some like particularly big trees? Mmm?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And though yeah, okay?

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Speaker 4: Were there dead trees around? Did it seemed like there'd

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be dead trees available that could be pushed over?

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Speaker 2: Or yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, okay, so there were some of those? All right.

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Some of you guys are hunters, right, yeah, deer hunters.

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Did you notice deer tracks in the area. No, No,

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you didn't notice any deer or any deer tracks.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even see a Barrett track up there.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

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We'll be right back after these messages.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's get into Sunday night. You said,

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that's when the really interesting stuff happened.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Sunday night around I don't know, I want to say,

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like ten thirty maybe eleven. Yeah, I got a massive

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headache just out of nowhere, and so I got out

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to go take side prope and then I had a

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pee step behind my ten That's when I got a

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good look of it.

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Speaker 4: And how far away was it from you?

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Speaker 2: Not even like thirty feet in front of me?

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Speaker 11: Really?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Well, okay, now we're talking. This was at night.

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Was there any moonlight? How well?

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Speaker 2: Lick was No, not really, it was kind of hard

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to see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And so tell me what you did see.

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Speaker 2: Well, what I saw is I get roughly nine feet tall,

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and it was like walking on two legs, you know,

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was kind of big walking towards me. And that's when

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I turned around and kind of went talked to Jimkob okay.

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Speaker 4: And so it was walking towards you, not like it

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was bluff charging you, not like it was trying to

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scare you, but just moving in your direction.

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Speaker 2: It was walking pretty fast really okay?

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Speaker 4: And is that when you said in the report Kia

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said at one point she mentioned reflective eyes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's when I saw. That's when I saw

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I like glowing red eyes.

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Speaker 4: Oh you did? You did have glowing red eyes? Okay?

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Do it seem like it was reflecting off the campfire

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or or are like they were glowing on.

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Speaker 2: Their own, just on their own really?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Cool?

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Speaker 4: Uh? And do anybody else but you see it at

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that moment?

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Speaker 2: Think Jacob saw something.

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Speaker 8: Jacob said that he saw the same thing, but he

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originally thought it was the trees messing with them until

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Daniel came running up to them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and everybody, and this was your all together kind

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of at the same camp area.

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Speaker 10: We were all in sitting around the campfire, other than Alex,

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he was sleeping in the camper because he got sick.

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Speaker 7: I was in the tech.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and then let's move forward. What was the next

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thing that big for related?

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Speaker 10: We all kind of heard kind of sound and all

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of the like the guys, all the girls went into

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the camper, and all those guys kind of walked towards

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what we what we started seeing.

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Speaker 2: And then that's went. Me and Colton.

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Speaker 10: Decided to go check on some other people that we

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knew that were around the area.

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Speaker 2: Then we went and kind of checked their camps. Light

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out and I'll let call him take it over from.

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Speaker 4: There, and mister and went to, Yeah, how far did

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you have to go to this other camp?

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Speaker 2: Three minutes?

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Speaker 4: Three minutes walking, right, three minutes driving? Okay, And so

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you didn't see anything while you were driving. You saw

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things when you got over to that other camp. Yes, yeah,

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all right, Colton, go ahead, tell us what happened.

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Speaker 11: So, so we got to the other camp and we

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were kind of letting them know, like what was going on,

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just kind of giving them a little heads up that

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something's out and not very happy.

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Speaker 4: What did you tell Did you have any idea what

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it was or how did you explain what it was?

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Speaker 11: We kind of just explained it as a tall, dark

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manlike figure there. That's really all that any of us

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truly had.

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Speaker 4: Because you'd only seen it in the dark.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And we were talking to him and Daniel and

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I started hearing some stuff back behind their tent, and

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there's a little hill back behind their tent and then

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it drops down into a little ravine. Well, Daniel and

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I are standing up on top of this hill and

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him and I bolt hear something off to our right,

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and we look and I could see something and how.

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Speaker 4: Far away was it from you?

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Speaker 2: Ten fifteen feet?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 11: I fired off a couple of rounds because I'm not

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one that likes to mess around and then possibly figure

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out if I'm gonna go back to Camp Atlantic or not.

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Speaker 4: Wait to say, let me ask you about this. Did

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you already have a gun with you? Did you have

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to go get it from the car or what.

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Speaker 2: With us?

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Speaker 7: They grabbed the guns and took off.

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Speaker 4: Oh when they went down to the camp, you brought

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guns with you? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 8: The only one that really stayed behind was Jacob. He

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sat in front of the camp or with all of

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those girls inside, just in case anythinking that. So the

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people that stayed at camp were Jacob, Me, Kira, Jeffrey,

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Alec Bailey, and the baby.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and so by this point, you guys were all

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apprehensive that something was coming around the camp. Yeah, and

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you were worried. Yes, yes, okay, So the other guys

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go down to the other camp. You see something moving

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in the dark, not far away. What kind of gun

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was it that you used to fire the warning shots?

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Speaker 2: I had a ten mil you out at nine four?

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Speaker 4: You out of ten, so two tens in a night.

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Speaker 2: And the forty five a ACP.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So these aren't rifles. These are all handguns, right.

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Speaker 2: The twenty two is a rifle, the.

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Speaker 4: Twenty two, okay? And is that what you used to

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do the warning shots?

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Speaker 11: No, we were using the nine and ten mil.

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Speaker 4: And were you shooting in the air towards the ground?

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Towards the ground? Okay? And of something that you thought

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was real close to you? Yeah? Okay? Did you hear

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any movements after you capped off those?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 4: How many rounds did you shoot off?

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Speaker 11: I shot a like towards the figure three times and

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then it was a bunch of brush and like TwixT snapping,

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and then it all went silent until just a couple

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seconds later there was something back behind us that started

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making sound. And that's when we turned and saw another figure,

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just a little bit smaller, running down the other side

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of the hill.

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Speaker 4: Okay, were you were you shot in its director? Were

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you prying to hit it? Or were you just shooting? Now, bubbah,

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I was very much so trying to hit it. You were, okay,

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but you wasn't wasn't in view when you were aiming

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at or you just aiming toward where you had seen movement?

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Speaker 11: So I could see it when I wasn't drawn up

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on it. It was kind of harder to see you

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when I was drawn up, but I knew that I

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was within a couple inches at least.

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Speaker 4: Okay, did you have any idea how big that one was?

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Speaker 2: About ten to twelve foot?

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Speaker 4: This one? That was? Okay, no end of twelve foot

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from you, but you think it you think it was

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ten feet tall? Yeah? Okay? And then the other direction

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there was you think a smaller one? Yeah? And that

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and that you heard that after you did the shots,

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you heard another one running away? Yeah? Okay, you heard it.

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But did you get you get any glimpse of it

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a little bit? Like it's its top half?

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Speaker 2: Is it like went back down over?

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Speaker 4: Okay? All right? Then what happened next?

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Speaker 11: Everyone got in their vehicles and we drove up the

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road a bit, trying to.

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Speaker 2: Figure out what we were going to do, whether we

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were going to.

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Speaker 11: Have the people that we went to talk to come

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back to our camp or what their plan was going

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to be. And they ended up coming back to camp

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with us.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you were all kind of freaked out and

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you wanted to all be in the same place. That

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good Okay, all right, And so that would have been

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at what time that you all came back together about.

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Speaker 11: One two.

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Speaker 4: Am?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Okay. Now, in the report, Kiara mentioned that you guys

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said that the things used they seemed to know how

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to hide and dodge and get behind things. What was that?

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Was that based on the incident with the guns or

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was there another occasion where you saw them like moving

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around trying to hide.

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Speaker 11: Mainly just kind of the situation with the guns and

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they were quick, swift movements. It knew exactly what it

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was doing and how it was doing.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Was there any sounds other than the brush breaking?

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Speaker 11: Not really, It was just kind of the it's it's

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like listening to an l bus through the brush, is

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what it sounded like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So no eye glow on that incident.

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Speaker 2: Not that I personally saw.

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Speaker 4: Now, okay, so we're one of tod them on Sunday.

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Anything happened Monday later after that? Or was that the

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final thing?

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Speaker 8: Non drove around and we were looking for the nests

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and the crosses, because after the boys have taken off,

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I called my mom and that was when she had

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sort of texted you to look out for these things,

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and she told us to stay together, and that's when

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I gave her my location, and she also told us

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to go out the next day and go look for

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the nests that looked like Teethe's and the trees and

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the crosses.

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Speaker 7: But there weren't any sounds or anything as far as.

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Speaker 4: We know, all right, And anything else happened after that

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before you laughed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Also on the.

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Speaker 8: Handprints and the footprints, the fut print was just behind

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our camp Jacob's camper and like right outside our campsite.

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Speaker 4: Okay. And what was the mention in the report of

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a sound that sounded like something either getting in a

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car or trying to start.

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Speaker 8: A car that was knocking with how Bailey originally described it,

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because when she had asked us about it, she thought

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Corey was starting his car because Corey and now we

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were sleeping in their car and me and Colt were

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sleeping in our car, and Corey had told her that

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his battery.

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Speaker 7: Was disconnected and that they weren't trying to start their

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car that night.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that was that. It was just you heard

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a knocking saut and you were just trying to figure

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it out and thought it may have been a sound

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coming from the car.

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Speaker 9: I thought they were like trying to turn the like

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turn it over, and because I already knew it was dead,

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but I hadn't known that they had disconnected the battery.

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Speaker 7: So that's what automatically my mind went to.

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Speaker 9: And that's why I asked everybody when we well, because

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I was sitting outside like around the fire, and then

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Corey and Abby got up and that's when I asked

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them and they were like, no, like we disconnected the battery,

481
00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,319
and I was like oh, And then I just did

482
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,160
say anything after that because I really didn't know what

483
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,720
was going on.

484
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,279
Speaker 4: All right, very good? So by that point, were you

485
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:44,839
guys thinking that these I mean, did you know did

486
00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,880
you guys know anything about sasquatches before this weekend or

487
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,240
how much did you know about the subject.

488
00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 8: I knew a pretty good deal prior because my mom

489
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:55,559
and I when I was growing up we'd watch about

490
00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:59,160
like sasquatches and paranoral activity. But like when I had

491
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,079
called her when everything was going on, I think Sunday night,

492
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,720
and she told me it was a sasquatch. I told

493
00:24:05,759 --> 00:24:08,200
it was like, I'm not joking, I'm serious. So she goes, no,

494
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,799
it's a sasquatch like we've seen in the shows.

495
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 4: Okay, how about the rest of you, the rest of

496
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,079
you guys, were you have heard bigfoot stories.

497
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: For Yeah, just watching night TV shows and stuff.

498
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 4: Okay, do people that you know in the area generally

499
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,359
believe the subject or do most people think it's nonsense?

500
00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: All of people think it's nonsense, real.

501
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,519
Speaker 4: Pretty most of the people out of work, they get

502
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,920
pretty much nonsense. Okay, well, I'll tell you they don't

503
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,240
know better. I've had one real close to me before,

504
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,920
and I could assure you they are quite real. And

505
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,319
there's other people who have seen them up in that area,

506
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,200
so I think that's exactly what they were. Very good. Well,

507
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,960
thank you so much. That's I think we got most

508
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,359
of it, and again, it does help us to try

509
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,920
to understand how these things operate.

510
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,599
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

511
00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:12,799
Bogo will be right back after these messages. Now it

512
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:14,960
says teenagers, but when I spoke to them, I got

513
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,400
the gist of I third, like around twenty are they

514
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,920
actually teenagers or just some of them are teenagers or

515
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,160
all of them or yeah.

516
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: I thought that was a bit unfair to label at teenagers,

517
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,319
and they just ran with it. I think it was

518
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,880
like Fox News or someone. A couple major outlets and

519
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,720
a couple of big social media pages picked the story up,

520
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,079
and they all broadcasted it as teenagers. Of course, because

521
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,680
they didn't have the information. When you say teenagers, you

522
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:40,319
think like fourteen, fifteen years old. Now they're all eighteen

523
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,759
and nineteen years old, and one of these teenagers is

524
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:46,440
thirty four years old, I believe, so, yeah, they're of

525
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:50,640
age that rate. I might be still a teenager, yeah yeah, yeah,

526
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:51,480
forever young.

527
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

528
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, these these were older kids, and you know,

529
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,279
the decisions that they made during what was happening to

530
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:01,039
them were completely logical. And one of the things was

531
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:03,680
crazy that you know, he actually discharged his gun in

532
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,759
the direction of this shadowy figure that approached his camp

533
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:10,319
at night, and in fact, the other two guys discharged

534
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,960
their pistols firing warning shots, so you know, there was

535
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,799
a point where, you know, half of them were afraid

536
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,839
and inside of one of the RVs and the other

537
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,039
guys went to the other camp and that's where they

538
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,839
had their encounter. So yeah, there was just a lot

539
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,640
of it, just a lot of that stuff, but yeah,

540
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,519
not teenagers.

541
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was a little unfair, and of

542
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,559
course the media would do that to kind of, in

543
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:36,200
a way subtly discredit the witnesses.

544
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: Slightly correct, And there was another piece of it was

545
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,039
like a major detail that was shared on the article.

546
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,759
One of the girls was in her tent hearing this loud, deep,

547
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,680
kind of thud sound, and when she described it to

548
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:54,200
us on that call, she was saying that it kind

549
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,480
of reminded her of like that deep chugging sound that

550
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:00,680
an engine trying to start up would make, which seems

551
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,920
completely logical. I mean, we've all been in our tents

552
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,160
hearing a weird sound that we're trying to make sense of,

553
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,960
and that was her way to make sense of it.

554
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,880
I guess they had disconnected a car's battery, so she

555
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,480
was trying to rationalize, like, is that someone trying to

556
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,440
start the car? You know, it's this deep loud thud

557
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,359
chug sound. And you know, she eventually put together that

558
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,839
it wasn't that because it turned into a rhythmic knocking

559
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,039
as she described, So something was walking around camp doing

560
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,960
really loud knocks and stuff, and that was taken out

561
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,200
of context, you know, and a lot of the comments

562
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,599
people were saying, oh, how could you mistaken a car

563
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,480
starting for someone hitting a tree or doing a knock,

564
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:39,119
you know what I mean. And you know, if you

565
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,759
don't have all the information, that's that's logically what you're

566
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,160
going to come to. So I thought that was another

567
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:46,519
piece of information that was taken out of context and

568
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:47,319
a little bit unfair.

569
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I would leave it to the skeptics to

570
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,160
be taking things out of context, being a little bit

571
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,000
unfair and not having all the information, right.

572
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

573
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: Every time. That's a problem with these big media outlets

574
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,400
when they put this stuff out there. You know, it

575
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
never gets a good you never get the full story.

576
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,440
It misses a lot of the details, and you know,

577
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,400
it's just really easy for someone to read the article

578
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,079
and go, ah, stupid teenagers, what are they talking about.

579
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: This report on the BFRO site. And again I'm sure

580
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,279
Matt will put that in the show notes as well.

581
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:16,720
Matt's been doing Matt Moneymaker's been doing a great job

582
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:20,160
lately on his a variety of outlets, including his website obviously,

583
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,559
as well as a lot of the social media is

584
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:24,799
where he's drawing maps and kind of zooming in showing

585
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,920
the photographs and whatnot submitted by the witnesses. And one

586
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,119
of the just one of the photographs that he shared

587
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,880
on his site. I know there are others, or it's

588
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,799
just a handprint on the car and all that jazz,

589
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,359
but one of the photographs actually shows a possible footprint

590
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,680
in the ground, and it doesn't look like much, And

591
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,000
again I would expect skeptics to kind of write it off,

592
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:46,039
but having seen quite a few sasquatch tracks out in

593
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,240
the wild, so to speak, in the ground, this is

594
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,440
not a bad photograph at all. And it could very

595
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,039
I can't say for sure if it is a sasquatch

596
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:56,079
footprint or not, but it has it is actually pretty

597
00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,119
decent looking track for the object that they're photographing, because

598
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,039
tracks just simply do not show up well in photographs,

599
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,359
but this one looks pretty good now. Having been to

600
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,319
the site over the last couple of days, Jonathan, did

601
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:09,880
you locate any other signs of the animals in the area,

602
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,880
life footprints?

603
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: When I walked around, I found I want to say,

604
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,640
one hundred thousand cow hoofs. There was so many cows,

605
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,200
so I did find deer prints and cowprints. I looked

606
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,079
for bear, I looked for any other signs. I looked

607
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,480
on trees or any thing that looked like it was

608
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,000
out of place, and I didn't find anything like that.

609
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,000
The ground, there are large patches that lend itself to

610
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,839
you know, they would create great footprints if one were

611
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200
just step there. But a lot of the ground is

612
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,440
kind of this, like knee high brush that you have

613
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,440
to walk through, and you'd never find a footprint walking

614
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960
through there. I did take a lot of time looking

615
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160
through that stuff, as well as you know, the road

616
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,960
and other patches of loose dirt. But no, nothing, nothing

617
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,640
out of place other than their story. I was just

618
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,519
you know, walking around and didn't find didn't find anything

619
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:01,480
of significance.

620
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:04,559
Speaker 5: But of course it's been weeks now, weeks and weeks

621
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:06,279
and weeks, so that's not all that surprising.

622
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: It's been about a month and it on my way

623
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:14,359
up there. We had this like unforecasted rainstorm that just

624
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,720
moved through, so it could have washed out anything. But

625
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:20,680
like I said, there were a lot of very fresh

626
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,400
cow tracks and cow patties write in camp and all around.

627
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,240
I was just surprised by how many, how much free

628
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,640
range cattle was roaming around that area. I can hear them.

629
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,480
I mean I haven't even gone over my audio recorder yet,

630
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,839
but all night long you can hear cows going off.

631
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,759
You can hear them going off in the distance up close.

632
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:43,279
So yeah, it was a lot of cows. Is this

633
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:44,039
an active very?

634
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:44,319
Speaker 3: Are you?

635
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,559
Speaker 5: Weare of other reports within the general vicinity within a

636
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,039
few miles or twenty miles or something. About four years ago,

637
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,359
I spoke to a girl.

638
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: She was a makeup artist here in the Treasure Valley,

639
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,680
and she starts telling me about this time that her

640
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,799
and her husband were in a place called New Meadows,

641
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:04,000
which is I mean, it's literally the next town outside

642
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,839
of where this area is. She had told me that

643
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,119
they were watching someone scale a hillside, just walking along

644
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,119
the hillside for a long distance, in a place completely

645
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,759
off trail, in a place where they couldn't understand why

646
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,799
this person dressed in all black was just walking and walking,

647
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,519
and they watched it for two or three minutes, and

648
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,079
it wasn't until it turned the corner into nowhere that

649
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160
they both decided, oh my gosh, hold on, we might

650
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,599
have just seen a sasquatch. And her and her husband

651
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,680
very outdoorsy people, and they were completely convinced that what

652
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,759
they saw was a sasquatch. There's another BFROL report right

653
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:44,079
there in that lake. Two paddle borders were paddle boarding

654
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,359
along and saw two figures on the shoreline there walking

655
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960
and they watched them for a pretty extensive amount of time,

656
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,319
so you'd think that they positively identified to them as

657
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:59,119
bigfoots and lower I want to say maybe if we

658
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:02,079
were talking trying maybe a thirty five minute drive south.

659
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,599
There was another report just east of the I'm sorry,

660
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,839
just west of the Cascade area where someone had an

661
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,359
encounter while they were camping or one of these things

662
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,880
walked into camp. So there's plenty of reports around that area.

663
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,319
You had a little further up toward like Loon Lake

664
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640
and the whole McCall area, there's been footprints and people

665
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,039
have heard vocalizations and there's been siding. So this is

666
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:28,319
an area that is familiar with the whole Bigfoot phenomenona.

667
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400
There's been plenty that's gone on up there, so this

668
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,359
isn't really surprising that it's just another story that's going

669
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,319
on in a place where there are many stories.

670
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,079
Speaker 3: Right, Did you ever find me of those?

671
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: Nessa?

672
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: So they were all around the camp.

673
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: I walked around and I looked, and I didn't find

674
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
the ones that they took pictures of. But there was

675
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,519
a lot of stuff that was really ambiguous, and I didn't,

676
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,359
you know, stuff tree falls, the trees. I'm not a

677
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,640
big structures guy, like it takes a lot to really

678
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880
impress me with a structure, but I did look for

679
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,839
them just to try to identify it, and I couldn't

680
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,400
find exactly what they took a picture of, and I

681
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,599
didn't find anything out of place like that, So I

682
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,480
didn't find any of that.

683
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,559
Speaker 4: You know.

684
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,039
Speaker 5: Well, looking at the map, one of the first thing

685
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:08,960
that stands out to me about this general area is

686
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,559
that it seems to me and correct me if I'm wrong.

687
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,240
So I'm not looking at it on Google Earth. I'm

688
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,079
looking at it on Google Maps right now that it

689
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,160
seems to be on the east side of the slope,

690
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,839
right would.

691
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: That be correct.

692
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,279
Speaker 2: It's almost kind of a plateau, and there are you know,

693
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,640
the witnesses described whistles at one point, there was a

694
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,119
there's a point where two of the girls were having

695
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,519
an argument and this is in daytime, and her boyfriend

696
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:35,400
walks off into the brush and she kind of follows

697
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,400
him and starts hearing these whistles and starts hearing things

698
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,720
move around in the brush. Ultimately, after, you know, after

699
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,279
everything happened, she's kind of felt that these things were

700
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,039
luring her further into the woods. But the reason I

701
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,640
bring that up is because the acoustics of this area

702
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,160
were incredible. I mean, the campfire crackling at night was

703
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,240
you can hear it echo back to you like three

704
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,799
different ways. So if she was hearing whistles all around,

705
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,799
she described them as very, very loud. Matt asked her,

706
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:06,880
you know, was it like a bird and she was like, no,

707
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,320
absolutely not. It was like a huge, huge whistle. And

708
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,239
I totally see what she's saying, because the acoustics there

709
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,639
are incredible. You have sounds coming from both sides of

710
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,559
the ridge. So on a map, maybe it might look

711
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,920
like it's an eastern facing slope, but it's actually more

712
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,760
of a plateau. Right after that there is a drop off.

713
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440
But I was hearing cows from what I think was

714
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,599
down in the valley, on the eastern Valley, and I

715
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,239
can also hear boats launching from the lake, which is

716
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,760
about a mile away. I can hear people's voices from

717
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,800
the lake. I could hear distant dogs barking. I mean,

718
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,199
anything that went on sound wise you can hear there.

719
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,960
So it's a great spot if you're trying to hear

720
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,519
a sasquatch or anything like that. That was, yeah, that

721
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,719
was kind of it was it's this perfect spot for

722
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,320
hearing what's around you.

723
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you said that it's a great spot

724
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,159
for trying to hear a sasquatch or anything like that.

725
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,199
But also the op the exact opposite of that, I

726
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,679
think is something that's really interesting and often overlooked by researchers,

727
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,400
that sasquatches want to hear you. Something I've noticed over many,

728
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,840
many years, and this seems to hold not only with

729
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,719
this report but with other reports, is that where sasquatches

730
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,280
are often observed, there are it's very very quiet. The

731
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,039
acoustics are really something special in a place where sasquatches

732
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,800
return to a lot, and they're very very quiet, and

733
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,639
being in the area you can observe not visually, but

734
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,519
you know by hearing, you can observe all your surroundings.

735
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,280
Because mountain gorillas, for example, keep track of every other

736
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,320
member of their troop by listening for them. And because

737
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,559
they can't see through the plant life, they can't see

738
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,920
through the jungle in which they live the thick forests,

739
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:49,360
and sasquatches would be expected to be rather similar. I

740
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,159
strongly suspect that when sasquatches are observing you, they're more

741
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,880
often listening to you than actually looking at you. And

742
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,960
so this area that you just describe seems perfect for

743
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:05,239
such an observation post for sasquatches to hear what's going

744
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,119
on all around them for maybe miles. If you can

745
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,360
hear boats launching in the Lost Valley reservoir, it sounds

746
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,840
like a perfect place for them.

747
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:17,079
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. Now, like I said, the campfire crackling was

748
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:18,920
just like I mean, if somebody was driving by on

749
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,679
the main road, they probably would be able to hear it.

750
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,480
It was that loud. Any clap I did, I did

751
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,079
a couple you know, vocalizations, and was just incredibly surprised

752
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,320
by how far they carried and how many times they

753
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,000
echoed back too. And there was another aspect to it

754
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,519
is that there's a little kind of a ridge that

755
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,199
slowly rises on the east side of the camp and

756
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,280
it is the perfect place for using like a thermal

757
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,079
imager and looking through these trees, like if something if

758
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:50,280
I were to try to hide and kind of creep

759
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,559
in on some campers, I would be able to do

760
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,760
it in the daylight, very very easy. But at night,

761
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:57,920
if somebody tried to creep in and I had a

762
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,199
thermal imager, I'd totally be able to see it. So

763
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,679
as far as a big footing spot, it's great. It's

764
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,559
giving sasquatch the higher ground to move in and you

765
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:09,840
can see right through the trees perfectly. It reminded me

766
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,159
a lot of the Blue Mountains, really lush and green,

767
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,280
but you know, not too hard to get around and

768
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,119
walk through the trees and the meadows.

769
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: Would this technically be part of the Blue Mountains? I

770
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,599
mean it's south southeast of the wallahwas, but it was

771
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,039
this technically part of the Blues. I don't really understand

772
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,159
where one stops and where one starts you know.

773
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: It looks like it there's a highway that kind of

774
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,559
divides everything, but it looks like almost like I don't

775
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,800
know how to describe it, almost like a deltoid where

776
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,039
it moved me. The Blue Mountains kind of taper off.

777
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:42,760
There's a road that runs through there, and then the

778
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,360
mountains start right back up again. So I would think

779
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,079
that it's the same exact environment, probably the same kind

780
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,360
of trees. It look the same. I've been in a

781
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,800
lot of different places. Each place has a really que

782
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,760
you know, unique characteristics in its landscape, and this reminded

783
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,039
me exactly of the Blue Mountains. Very interesting.

784
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

785
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:16,119
Will be right back after these messages. So with the

786
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:20,719
report in general, you feel this is a totally legit report,

787
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,159
I'm assuming, right, yeah. I mean I'm very skeptical of people.

788
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:27,159
I'm not skeptical of Bigfoot, but I'm always skeptical of people,

789
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,920
And in my head I always form a kind of

790
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,280
defense of the story and also like a prosecution of

791
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,519
the story. You know, I do bring up every red

792
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,159
flag I can think of, and when you can discredit

793
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,199
away every red flag, well, then you've got a pretty

794
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,280
good story on your hands. And you know, a large

795
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,599
percentage of this story sounds legitimate. So as of now,

796
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,719
I'm totally on board with it. I also try to

797
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,639
think of the like ten people getting together to make

798
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,679
up a story with this level of detail about sasquatch

799
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,280
visiting their camp and why why would you do that?

800
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,239
You know, But as far as the details, you know,

801
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,840
going there, seeing the landscape, it's completely plausible. It's a

802
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,360
perfect place for all of that to happen. So I'm

803
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,599
on board with this story. And you know, there are

804
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:20,000
a few little details, like I'm making a video about

805
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,599
this that I should have maybe by the time this airs,

806
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,280
but from speaking right now, it's going to be like

807
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,280
a week and a half or so.

808
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to put this video out. And one of

809
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,639
the things that I do show is that, you know,

810
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,239
for example, a handprint on the back of the suv

811
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,239
that they have there. You know, they're not saying a sasquatch,

812
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,880
but they're saying, look at this. I don't know how

813
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,400
we got this handprint on there. Maybe it was sasquatch,

814
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,559
and for myself speaking, hell, maybe it was. But you know,

815
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,000
I do show you how handprints appear on vehicles. And

816
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,599
before I left my driveway, I filmed myself putting a

817
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:54,519
nice handprint on the back of my clean windshield and

818
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,440
then driving all the way up there. And then the

819
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,559
next morning, after driving on a dusty road, lo and hey,

820
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,960
there's my handprint. It looks like something visited overnight and

821
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,239
put a handprint on my vehicle.

822
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: So, so's the problem.

823
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: Who's the problem here? Abby or Bailey the problem?

824
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

825
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: The girls were fighting and arguing.

826
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:16,639
Speaker 2: It's not like both of them. I don't know, I

827
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:21,559
do know what they're argued about. That's the real mystery here. Yeah. Yeah,

828
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:25,119
But whatever argument that was that led Kiara to walk

829
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:29,039
over into the brush and have that experience that she had.

830
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,840
You know, she walked into the bushes, I had this argument,

831
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:35,280
walked over into the the forest line, and you know,

832
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,480
started hearing these whistles and seeing movement around her, and

833
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,440
she initially thought it was her boyfriend. Turns out he

834
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,920
had already walked back to camp and was kind of

835
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,920
waiting around for her, and she was walking in this circle.

836
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,880
She describes being led around by whistles and movement, and

837
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,719
when she got back, you know, there was a boyfriend,

838
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,320
so good thing, they argued, Maybe that's what we need.

839
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,559
More arguments in camp.

840
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe more stellings on funning bigfoot.

841
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 5: If that was the case, I think the Bigfoot community

842
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,280
in general would have more sightings if that was the case.

843
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, did that baby act any different? Did they notice

844
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:13,519
any difference with the baby acting if the thing was

845
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:14,119
around or not.

846
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,599
Speaker 2: They didn't really mention much of the baby. Yeah, they

847
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:19,760
didn't mention much of the baby. But you know, it's

848
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,880
not the first time people bring babies and stuff pops up.

849
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:24,679
I don't know if you were there, Bobo, but I

850
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,199
know Cliff was. But when, like Bart Katino had his sighting,

851
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,079
I know that speaking to him, he attributes a baby

852
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:33,880
crying leading to his sighting at California camp. That was

853
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,559
a yeah, see, so bring your babies into the woods

854
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,360
and have arguments with your friends. You know. That seems

855
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,400
to be the new standard to have a sasquatch experience.

856
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this, Jonathan, but the

857
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,320
same night Bart saw that sasquatch, Bobo ran into it

858
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,440
as well while he was taking a dump away from camp.

859
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that, No way, I did

860
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,519
not know that I was.

861
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: Trying to keep this classy and up bring it up.

862
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a leave it to me then it

863
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,840
is about it.

864
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: I think it was maybe like twenty minutes after this happened,

865
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,000
like I had to go, and I was like I

866
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:07,360
walked out like a couple hundred yards back and like

867
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,800
dug a hole, and I was squatted down, and all

868
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,480
of a sudden, just this big like boom boom boom

869
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,440
running at me coming up this little this little draw

870
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:18,920
kind of like in Pitch Black.

871
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, I was so mad.

872
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, give me a freaking break. I'm

873
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,719
trying to like this is going against the bro code,

874
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,639
Like you know, Scoot I would have squatted down, you know,

875
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,679
do his bis. You gotta like wait till I'm done

876
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:34,159
and walking back then you can mess with me. And

877
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,159
I was like, I forgetbout yell you'll like I said,

878
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,199
oh yeah, damn, I'm taking a ship, like quick, get

879
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,280
out of here. You know that it stopped like it

880
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,400
just stopped like with no like slowt I was just

881
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,199
it was like full sprinting like it was coming fast

882
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,199
and it was big and loud in like the ground

883
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,440
like you should have boom boom.

884
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,679
Speaker 4: I mean it was big.

885
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: And it came run up and I yelled, it just

886
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,079
stopped and everything else.

887
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you're you're most vulnerable position. That's when he

888
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,840
decides to jump out at you. Great.

889
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: They came around our tents. I was with Jamie Jada,

890
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,800
same guy that was with me when when Bart Laos

891
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,559
Cap when we saw the one in lust Cap Jamie

892
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:12,079
j I was. I was in the tent with him

893
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,239
and is hit his nine month old son in there,

894
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,840
So we had the baby in there and the thing

895
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,519
they were walking back and forth. They were like rubbing,

896
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:21,480
They're running their fingers down the tent, like we could

897
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,559
hear them mumbling like you know, you like pitter powder,

898
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,719
back and forth like like there was there was definitely

899
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,559
some smaller ones that were in there too, Like it

900
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,400
wasn't just a big one. We heard two which sounded

901
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,400
like smaller ones.

902
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: I see. Was that at lawser California.

903
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: Then I was at the California camp.

904
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh wow yeah.

905
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 5: So I guess the lesson is bring your babies out,

906
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,199
argue with it while you're pooping, and you'll probably see

907
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:44,840
a sasquatch.

908
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm gonna try that next time. Do you have

909
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,639
a baby, I can find one.

910
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,159
Speaker 5: That's not a good look to be arguing with babies.

911
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: No, No, they always win to you always lose the argument. Yeah,

912
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:58,079
they're just too cute.

913
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,679
Speaker 5: We encourage all of our listeners to go read that

914
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719
report again. The link is in the show notes. Go

915
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,800
check it out. It's a very recent report from a

916
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,320
very cool area. It's been investigated on site by Jonathan. So, yeah,

917
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,960
I think the bow has been put on it, as

918
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,599
it's been said. But Jonathan, this is the first time

919
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,079
you've been on Bigfoot and beyond. Why don't we learn

920
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,039
a little bit about you. How long have you been

921
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,000
doing this? Because I've heard your name tossed around. You

922
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,239
must have been doing this around for a while. I mean,

923
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,960
you must be pretty well entrenched into the Bigfoot community.

924
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:25,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

925
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: I've been doing the whole Bigfoot thing for about twelve

926
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,239
or so years, and I started the channel, I want

927
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,840
to say, about seven years ago. And you know, I

928
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,159
don't bombard my channel with a bunch of videos. It's

929
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,559
kind of a slow process. But my channel is about

930
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,199
the search for evidence in the Pacific Northwest. Might try

931
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,519
to take you along to places. Maybe you haven't seen,

932
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,159
but you should see and hang out with a lot

933
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:50,199
of researchers that you never heard of that you should

934
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,719
hear about. The reason I started the channel is because

935
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,079
I noticed that there were these amazing places that you

936
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,920
could just not find on YouTube or any you know,

937
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:03,559
history channel documentary. A couple examples would be, you know,

938
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:05,719
we've all heard the story of oh, Jerry Crewe. You

939
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480
know he named Bigfoot, and then it just moves on

940
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,480
in the story. But there was a lot more to

941
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:12,920
Jerry Crewe. And if I can take a person there

942
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:17,920
to the exact spot where Jerry crewe cassette footprint, well

943
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,400
that's pretty awesome. A lot of people are very interested

944
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,639
in seeing stuff like that. The Paul Freeman film site,

945
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,880
I couldn't find anything on YouTube, Cliff, outside of your

946
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,880
patreon a video and your Patreon, there was nothing out there.

947
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,480
I mean, you had Michael Freeman's book, but video wise,

948
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:36,519
I couldn't find the Paul Freeman film site anywhere. And

949
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,719
if I can show up there run people through the siding.

950
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,119
I did measurements to the best of my ability and

951
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,239
just give people a better picture of what happened to

952
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,800
Paul Freeman that day. Well then mission accomplish. That's what

953
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400
I did with my Freeman film, with my Freeman video.

954
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,400
And you know, there's plenty of these researchers that you know,

955
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,920
they deserve to be shown to people. A lot of

956
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,440
people would it would be a good bench fit to

957
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,199
people to watch, you know how people like the Robert

958
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,599
Laterman's of the world, you know, handle investigations and stuff

959
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:11,440
because you know, you don't see him on the History Channel,

960
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,480
you don't see him on a lot of featured on

961
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,079
on a lot of things, you know, and there's a

962
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:18,920
lot of people just like that. The Bluff Creek Project guys.

963
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,480
I do a lot of work in Bluff Creek, and

964
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,880
you know, I kind of bounce around a lot. I

965
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,480
have videos in Washington, California, here in Idaho, a little

966
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,280
bit all over the place. But I kind of try

967
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,480
to go along with these stories and you can see

968
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,039
the Bigfoot world through my eyes.

969
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

970
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 9: How many?

971
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: How many things have you done?

972
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 7: Jonathan?

973
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

974
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: I think I got like, I think thirteen to fifteen

975
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,400
something like that. But my videos are mostly like they

976
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,679
run between you know, thirty minutes to an hour, and

977
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,199
one thing I try to do is I try to

978
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,719
keep them real cinematic entertaining, and I work with a

979
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,639
lot of different people as far as like you know,

980
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,960
I've gone out on expeditions with like the small Town

981
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,559
Monsters guys. I mentioned the Bluff Creek project in this

982
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:03,559
recent one. I was up at Bumping Lake, like we

983
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:06,159
were talking about just a little bit ago, and I

984
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,480
have this Mount Rainier video and you know, I'm very

985
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,639
thankful just hit a million views, So that's a that's

986
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:16,000
a good thing. And yeah, it's awesome, dude. And you know,

987
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:19,480
I feature not just stuff that happens to me, but

988
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,719
also the people that I interview and their evidence that

989
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,280
they're willing to share. So, for example, I was up

990
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,519
in Mount Rainier. I'm sorry it's called Mount Rainier Sasquatch,

991
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,480
but we were out in the out spirits at Bumping

992
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:34,320
Lake and right there at California Camp. You know, we

993
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,239
had spent the night and in the morning we kind

994
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,360
of walked back in there and we just had these

995
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,239
super super loud rock clacks and they happened very consistently,

996
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,639
and it was over the course of like two and

997
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,639
a half hours where we were chasing around whatever was

998
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:51,639
making these rock clacks. And as soon as we would

999
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:55,360
get close to it, you'd hear bam, smash boom, and

1000
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,079
it would move and then it would start clacking rocks again.

1001
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:02,519
And you know that back there behind California Camp, it's

1002
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:05,719
so thick that you know, you can't take two steps,

1003
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,719
you take one step. You got to step over a log,

1004
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,639
step down from a log onto a rock, you know.

1005
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,880
So it's really slow moving back there, and whatever was

1006
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,039
moving back there was moving real quick. And it's kind

1007
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,079
of funny because after we recorded and heard all of

1008
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,599
these rock clacks, we got back home only to find

1009
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,559
out that there was a BFRO expedition two weeks that

1010
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:27,599
was there two weeks prior to us. They have the

1011
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:31,480
exact same raw clacks recorded, and we're doing the exact

1012
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,400
same thing that we were. There's also other things like

1013
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,000
I interviewed it a gentleman named Kristin Jolton who has

1014
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,440
some of the best assquatch recordings that I've ever heard.

1015
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,559
In fact, I personally like them more than the Sierra sounds,

1016
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,920
just because we can visit the location and talk to

1017
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,119
the person. These are a lot newer. They're only from

1018
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,880
just a few years ago, and now there are these

1019
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:56,039
long singing vocals coming from different directions, from multiple individuals,

1020
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,199
and I've had a lot of people tell me, you know,

1021
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,320
I don't believe in Bigfoot. I don't think any things

1022
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,440
out there, but when I hear these recordings, it really

1023
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,880
changes my mind and they've become interested, which is my goal.

1024
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:10,719
You know, things like these vocalizations, researchers going out recording things.

1025
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,239
You don't see these things a lot on YouTube or

1026
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,679
on any any other channel, any other platform. So I

1027
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,039
like to bring all that stuff to people. I filmed

1028
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,960
part two of that Mount Rainier. It's called Return of

1029
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,559
the mount Rainier Sasquatch, and it should be out within

1030
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:29,360
a month or so. And in that, you know, I

1031
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,719
sat down with other researchers, like the study Sasquatch guys.

1032
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,760
I think they're got there like the best thing that's

1033
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,239
going for Bigfoot research right now. Oh yeah, yeah. I

1034
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,280
interviewed them about their cameras that they developed, their thermal

1035
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,000
imaging cameras that they can set out there for a

1036
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,920
couple months at a time, and they're they're recording nightlife

1037
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,079
in a way that I've never seen before. I mean,

1038
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:53,119
they have things like an owl jumping down after a

1039
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:56,360
flying squirrel that you set on night and crystal clear

1040
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,199
and thermal imatures, you know, so it's it's really interesting.

1041
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,400
We also show their methods as well as our methods,

1042
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,119
you know, like walking the roads at night, and their

1043
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,480
use of technology, both audio and visually is superior to

1044
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,239
anybody that I've ever I've ever worked with, and I

1045
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,480
do show that. I sit down and interview them and

1046
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,679
talk to them about it. But yeah, it's a real

1047
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,280
neat thing. I'm just trying to bring all that to

1048
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,000
the forefront, showing the best research that's going on, bringing

1049
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,199
that to people's homes so they can watch it for free.

1050
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

1051
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:37,320
We'll be right back after these messages.

1052
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: There's all these compelling stories for Bigfoot, for the existence

1053
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,519
of Bigfoot, and that's what I try to get out

1054
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,679
there through my videos. I want people to watch my

1055
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,719
videos and you know, say, wow, it's not a bunch

1056
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,320
of crazy people running in the woods. You know, these

1057
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,519
people are legit and they're really seeing things.

1058
00:50:59,599 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1059
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Of course we are a bunch of really crazy people

1060
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:03,679
running around in the woods, but I don't want to.

1061
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 5: But it's not why we're crazy. Is the point exactly correct?

1062
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: There we go.

1063
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 5: So you've been to the Patterson side, obviously, you've been

1064
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,039
to the Freeman's site. You've been interviewing various researchers that

1065
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:17,280
you respect. Do you have a wish list of things

1066
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,119
that you want to get to or any plans for

1067
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,360
the summer. I mean it's squatching season right now. So

1068
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:23,159
what are your plans for the summer as far as

1069
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,159
your your next videos that you want to make or

1070
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,559
things that you want to try to get.

1071
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, So one of my things is I'm going

1072
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,000
to be back in Bluff Creek in a few weeks.

1073
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:34,119
I have a series of interviews that I've already recorded

1074
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,440
with people like Thomas Steinberg, Dustin Severs that wrote The

1075
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,079
Abominable Snowman of California, and other people like Inker, a

1076
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:45,320
shaman for the Hoopa tribe, you know, and I paint

1077
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,440
this really good picture of everything that happened there in

1078
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:53,199
the logging area. That was my goal to put this

1079
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,480
documentary out called The Legend of Bluff Creek that covers

1080
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:59,840
everything that happened in the logging era, which I'm fast

1081
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,599
in with over there. And aside from that, my plan

1082
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:05,199
is to do a bunch of Idaho stuff. This is

1083
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,639
gonna be the summer of Idaho stuff. I have at

1084
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,119
least three witnesses lined up that I'm going to go

1085
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:12,000
out into the field with and camp where they had

1086
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,559
their experiences. Just one of them was just last year,

1087
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:18,760
where it was a girl who went camping, came back

1088
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,760
home and was telling her mom, You're not going to

1089
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,679
believe this. We're camping and the weirdest thing happened. You know,

1090
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,119
I had these rocks thrown over my head into the river.

1091
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,440
And she's going, well, what do you mean? She goes,

1092
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,280
I don't know. I don't know how somebody could have

1093
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,039
been there. It doesn't make any sense to me. But

1094
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:35,119
we watched several rocks go over our heads out into

1095
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,800
the river, and she had no idea that this was

1096
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,360
something that's affiliated to Sasquatch until her dad started thinking

1097
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,960
and going, you know, I think I've seen this on

1098
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,719
some show before or something like that, sort of telling

1099
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,800
her does this sound familiar? And they looked it up

1100
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,679
and they're going, oh my gosh. So of course they

1101
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:52,599
come and tell me about it, and I'm trying to

1102
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:55,039
organize getting out there with them. There was another person

1103
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:58,760
that had an encounter with something far off in the

1104
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,039
distance that was I sh that was just way too

1105
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:03,599
tall to be a bear. So yeah, I'm working on

1106
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,880
a lot of Idaho stuff this summer, as well as

1107
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,920
the Bluff Creek stuff. I do plan to get out

1108
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,880
to Washington and film out there, probably with the study

1109
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,920
Sasquatch guys. I do plan to return to places like

1110
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,239
Bumping Lake and other places that are on the outskirts

1111
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,840
of Mount Rainier. So it's going to be a busy,

1112
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,119
busy summer. This is probably gonna be the busiest summer

1113
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:24,000
that I've ever had as far as doing content and

1114
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,079
getting out to places and researching. And you know, I

1115
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:32,079
am a researcher first and consider myself filmmaker later. Like

1116
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:35,239
I wouldn't even be making videos about anything if it

1117
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,039
wasn't for Bigfoot, Like that's.

1118
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: My aren't you trained in film?

1119
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, that's the thing with me. I

1120
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,559
learned everything I learned just to put out Bigfoot documentaries.

1121
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,280
Like it was so important to me to put out

1122
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,760
good information for people that were kind of like me

1123
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,199
when I got into the subject. I mean, I was

1124
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,599
lucky I had a show called Finding Bigfoot to watch

1125
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:00,079
and there was a lot of Monster Quest stuff going on,

1126
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:03,440
and you know, those shows haven't been on for a while,

1127
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,079
and you know, there has to be something to fill

1128
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:07,920
the void. There has to be. There's a lot of

1129
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,199
great podcasts, there are a few great channels out there

1130
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,880
that put out documentaries, but I just felt that they

1131
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,559
weren't touching on the things that I thought were most interesting,

1132
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,159
and that made a very compelling case for the existence

1133
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:20,679
of Bigfoot.

1134
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: You're welcome.

1135
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

1136
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,199
Speaker 5: Thinking well, you're doing in the right order, you see,

1137
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,880
because what I think the fault with the modern culture

1138
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,920
is that they decide to be an influencer first, and

1139
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,039
then oh what could I Oh big I like Bigfoot,

1140
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:38,159
I'll do that, Whereas I think the correct order is

1141
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,800
be a bigfooter first and then later, oh I could

1142
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,960
probably make a video on this and maybe somebody will care.

1143
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,039
You know, if you do what you love, good things

1144
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:49,840
will follow, instead of trying to say, well, I need followers,

1145
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,400
what do I need to do? Oh, Bigfoot's a small pool.

1146
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,320
I can be a big fish there. And that's that

1147
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,320
seems to be the order that too many people are

1148
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,320
going in nowadays. In my opinion, So kudos to you,

1149
00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,760
my friend.

1150
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much. Yeah yeah, now, I see

1151
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,559
it a lot, and you know, I definitely try to

1152
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,559
differentiate myself from those those types.

1153
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,599
Speaker 5: Right Well, I actually I may be down in Bluff

1154
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:15,239
Creek actually, so i'll see. I'll get some dates of

1155
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,679
when you're going to be down there. Maybe we can

1156
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,719
rendezvous if I happen to be down there the same

1157
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,760
week as you. I've got some things I need to

1158
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,400
do down there at the Willow Creek Museum. They're giving

1159
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,599
me access to some of their casts that have never

1160
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:28,000
been copied before. So I'm going to go down there

1161
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,039
and spend some time down there in the next month,

1162
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,559
hopefully if I can break away from my obligations up here.

1163
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let me know. There's a lot. Hopefully we

1164
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,239
meet up there. There's a lot i'd want to show you.

1165
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,440
We've been going there for I want to say, like

1166
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,320
seven or eight years now, and I know you guys

1167
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,440
have tons of stories, but I have a few of

1168
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,920
my own, you know, hearing vocalizations that I've I heard

1169
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,679
some of the craziest vocalizations that I've ever heard at

1170
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,599
Layered Meadow. So there's a lot of there's a lot

1171
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:56,400
of things like that. I'd want to show you that recorded.

1172
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,039
We all had audio running, but the screens were so

1173
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,519
distant and faint that nobody could pick it up. I mean,

1174
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,920
we sent it to everyone we know that can that

1175
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,159
can sift through audio, and they couldn't get it. Chris

1176
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:13,800
Spencer couldn't get it. So yeah, but it was it was.

1177
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,719
It was these long vocalizations that went on for like

1178
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,039
twenty seconds each, and it sounded like a guy on

1179
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:23,400
a roller coaster going up and down and up and down,

1180
00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:26,800
and there was so distant that you almost thought that

1181
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,480
they were in your head until I confirmed it with Alex.

1182
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:31,079
He goes you hearing this too, I go, yeah, dude,

1183
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:32,960
I hear this. And then the other group right about

1184
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,800
a mile away radios to us describing the exact same vocalization,

1185
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,360
so they were hearing it too, but it was just

1186
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,159
so quiet and so faint that our audio recorders unfortunately

1187
00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:44,559
did not pick him up. So it's just another story

1188
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:47,519
in the bank. But I have recorded a vocalization there

1189
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,559
the year prior to that, so and it came from

1190
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,079
the exact same direction. It's up on the hill away

1191
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:55,440
from layered meadow. And that's the most beautiful thing about

1192
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,280
Bluff Creek is that you know you have stuff going

1193
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,800
on there in the Golden era, big footing in the sixties,

1194
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,360
and you know you still have stuff going on there today,

1195
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,079
and it makes you really feel like you're a part

1196
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:08,639
of history. If you go up there to that Bluff

1197
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:10,599
Creek area and you know your history, it's like an

1198
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:15,480
outdoor museum, and an outdoor museum where stuff still happening

1199
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,559
in the same exact places we've had. Stuff happened exactly

1200
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:22,360
where Jerry Crew cast the Bigfoot track. So yeah, it's

1201
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,239
this is such a cool connection. Makes you feel like

1202
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,599
you're all just part of that history.

1203
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,719
Speaker 5: Seeing the nineteen fifty eight on the Notice Creek bridge

1204
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,519
really drove it home for me back in the day

1205
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,000
when I started going there in the mid nineties or whatever,

1206
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:35,840
It's like, oh, yeah, look at that nineteen fifty eight.

1207
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,119
I bet Jerry Crew built this bridge, and sure enough

1208
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:41,280
he did. Actually, once I became more knowledgeable about the

1209
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,199
history back in the day, it's like, oh yeah, that's

1210
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:45,960
where Jerry was of course, So.

1211
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: It's so cool. And I mean we were even up

1212
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,800
near Layered at a little cutout there and we found

1213
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,360
pieces of heavy machinery and when you kind of rub

1214
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,320
the rust off a little bit, you see the date,

1215
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,760
and the date was nineteen fifty one, and you see

1216
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,559
that on one of my videos. So we found machinery

1217
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:04,920
from the golden era of the logging the logging times

1218
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,400
up there, and that's just really neat to me. That's

1219
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:08,039
very cool.

1220
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,119
Speaker 5: And since you're familiar with Laired Meadow, you know a

1221
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:12,880
little pond right there by the only real campsite there

1222
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:13,440
is in the area.

1223
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: Now, it's exactly where we found this heavy machinery pieces.

1224
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that pond is where Bob Titmas got the handprint

1225
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,159
that he had to drain the pond with the help

1226
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:25,000
of his friends from the Barrier group. Then he casts

1227
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,880
a line of tracks leading up to it or whatever

1228
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:30,480
that are on all those casts. The original handprint as

1229
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:33,440
well as the footprints are in the Willow Creek Museum

1230
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,800
as well. So but yeah, that that's actually the pond

1231
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,760
where Bob tit did that work.

1232
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,599
Speaker 2: Which we stood at that pond and we're just looking

1233
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:43,360
at the water flowing into it and going, I cannot

1234
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,199
believe that this guy that must have been a heck

1235
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:47,679
of a handprint, because I cannot believe that this guy

1236
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,800
he would have had to reroute the waterway and then

1237
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,679
drain it for like one guy to do for a

1238
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:55,320
handprint like that's impressive.

1239
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 5: It was so late in the year, it may not

1240
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,239
be that much of a deal actually, you know, because

1241
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,599
it was an audio October actually the late October that

1242
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:03,360
that happens. So maybe the water is just oother that

1243
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,079
that's great. That probably helped. Yeah, yeah, I sure did.

1244
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:08,880
And of course a rather handprints in the mud as well.

1245
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:10,920
You can see him in the photographs that were taken

1246
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,599
at the site, but he just casts that one unfortunately.

1247
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, there were you know, you also got

1248
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:19,480
the Patterson print that was taken some time around there.

1249
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:22,920
I believe it was Pat Graves, a for service worker

1250
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,199
that took him up there and showed him this trackway

1251
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:29,960
and Patterson cast his there. So yeah, very active area

1252
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:33,599
back then, still an active area today. There was that hair.

1253
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:36,199
The first time I ended up meeting you was when

1254
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:38,599
we all brought samples of hair that we collected out

1255
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:41,679
of layered meadow, brought him up to the NABC there

1256
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:43,760
to get him looked at. You have a great database

1257
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,760
to compare all these hairs to and you also know

1258
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,800
what you're doing. I have tried to look at hairs

1259
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,119
under a microscope and my gosh, it is way more

1260
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,199
difficult than I thought. You got to really know what

1261
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:56,280
you're doing. So you know, luckily you just threw them

1262
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,119
right up there identified them all as bear. But you know,

1263
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:01,679
we weren't the We were there and layered a meadow

1264
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:04,559
with several people picking hairs off of trees, and my

1265
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:07,320
buddy Damian Irons, he picked out a hair and the

1266
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,880
one that he took to you, that's the one that

1267
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:14,239
looked like sasquatch. I talk about the Fahrenbach Gold Standard

1268
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,360
on my channel. I have a little segment about that,

1269
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,079
just kind of educating the public over what that is

1270
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:24,360
and how doctor Henry Fahrenbach, a primatologist, had collected these

1271
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,559
hairs and you know, he had a dozen or so

1272
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,800
hair that didn't fall into the category of any animal,

1273
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,639
and it had certain characteristics and made them they were

1274
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:39,519
very unique. And you know, these hair were also found

1275
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,559
after a sasquatch siding, or you know, found on trees

1276
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:46,320
in our case that looked like they were manipulated by hands.

1277
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,519
There were these trees with these twists on the top,

1278
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:51,280
and that's what we were pulling these hairs off of.

1279
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,960
And I mean we knew that they were more than

1280
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:56,559
likely bear maybe elk, But this one that we grabbed

1281
01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:59,480
was about like six inches long and looked totally different

1282
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,679
than anything else we grabbed, and that was the one

1283
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:06,320
that Damon kept with him. So that whole thing is

1284
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,320
in one of my videos. I think I called it

1285
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,800
a Bluff Creek Bigfoot evidence, and it just takes you

1286
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,039
on the journey of us, you know, trying to collect evidence,

1287
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,199
going out to Layered Meadow, looking at these trees and

1288
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:20,760
picking out you know, hair and the whole process of

1289
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,400
getting them looked at. We also stopped by you know,

1290
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,880
doctor Meldrum's office and got hair looked at as well.

1291
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,320
He was interested in looking at more of it, and

1292
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:33,360
I just show you, you know, his commentary on that.

1293
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,079
So there's a lot of learning about hair that you

1294
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:38,760
can do by watching that episode.

1295
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 5: Well, now luckily we have a Darby study and he

1296
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:44,880
has a I just spoke to Derby pretty recently last week.

1297
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:48,039
The hair thing is moving ahead. He's got a great

1298
01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:50,679
team of upper level like grad students, I guess or

1299
01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:54,320
PhD students at some level who specialize in hair. So

1300
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,639
don't set them to me anymore. Send them to Darby

1301
01:01:56,719 --> 01:01:59,199
or Cut at the North Carolina State University for an

1302
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,519
absolute positive identification for every single sample.

1303
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what happened with this hair. It actually

1304
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,920
ended up in his possession, so that's good news.

1305
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And of course I've been sending Derby the Meldrum

1306
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,400
collection hair as well. Jeff had quite a few samples,

1307
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,159
and I mean, just by looking at a lot of these,

1308
01:02:17,199 --> 01:02:19,960
I know that they're not sasquatches, but that doesn't matter.

1309
01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:22,320
I'm sending them to Derby. There's some sort of a

1310
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,039
lot of cow and horse and things like that, but

1311
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:27,400
there's a lot of very very interesting samples, and I say,

1312
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,119
oh man, this could very well be the real deal

1313
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:32,199
right here. So he's getting everything and now it's just

1314
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:34,639
a waiting game. So it would be very very interesting

1315
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:36,440
to see if anything good comes out of that stuff.

1316
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,519
Are there any places that people can meet you in

1317
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:41,880
person or perhaps reach out to you, like, what's the

1318
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:42,639
best way to do that?

1319
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: You can find me via Instagram, Western Bigfood Exploration, find

1320
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,400
me on YouTube, drop a comment on that channel. Western

1321
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Bigfood exploration, but also this September, I believe the weekend

1322
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,360
of the twenty sixth, there is a Sasquatch Festival going

1323
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,800
on in Packwood, Washington, and I'm going to be one

1324
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,159
of the speakers. We're also having Moneymaker, He's going to

1325
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:04,079
be kind of hosting the whole thing. There's a long

1326
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:08,480
list of great people involved, from Nathaniel Bronis to Shane Corson.

1327
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,800
There's already ticket sales. Ticket sales are already up. You

1328
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,679
can visit Beyond the Footprint dot com and buy your

1329
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:17,480
tickets there, and I hope to meet all of you.

1330
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:20,119
They're doing a lot of really new things at this

1331
01:03:20,239 --> 01:03:23,679
Assquatch Festival, including they're going to do like a night

1332
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:27,480
investigation up in the mountains and stream that with starlink

1333
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:30,039
so everyone can see. So a lot of new concepts.

1334
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,360
They're really trying to grow this thing to be a

1335
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,519
really good legit and science based festival. So it sounds

1336
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:38,800
like a lot of fun and I hope to see

1337
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,239
you guys there in September. Excellent.

1338
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 5: I've not been to that conference, but I've been hearing

1339
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,599
good things about it, and I'm glad to hear it's

1340
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:46,679
going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. We need

1341
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,360
more local stuff on the West coast. People have been

1342
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:51,800
kind of lamenting to me. It's like all the conferences

1343
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,239
and all the fun get together seem to be an

1344
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:57,000
East coast of thing, and there's a couple out here,

1345
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,800
but not compared to back East Man, there's probably twice

1346
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,519
as MANI three times is many, back E says, all

1347
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:04,239
right here, So I'm glad that one seems to be

1348
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:07,039
going strong well. Jonathan, thank you so much for spending

1349
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:09,360
some time with us and sharing us, sharing with us

1350
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,039
what you're up to, as well as your on site

1351
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:13,960
investigation of that excellent sighting report that is on the

1352
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,079
BFRO website. We appreciate your insight, and if you ever

1353
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:18,679
get anything else you want to share with us, by

1354
01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:19,639
all means, just reach out.

1355
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:22,199
Speaker 2: You are more than welcome to come back on. Okay, Yeah,

1356
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:23,920
thank you very much. And you should see a video

1357
01:04:24,199 --> 01:04:27,400
about that. We're talking here about that whole incident, and

1358
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,519
I want to show it to you guys on camera.

1359
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,880
So I hope you guys watch that. You know, sub

1360
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,119
subscribe to my channel and you'll see it soon.

1361
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,119
Speaker 3: His channel's definitely quality over quantity. There's not a lot

1362
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:42,480
of videos in there, but they're all great. So yeah, folks,

1363
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:46,119
that was Jonathan easily. Thanks Jonathan for joining us, and

1364
01:04:46,239 --> 01:04:53,159
until next week, folks, y'all keep it squatchy.

1365
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:57,320
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1366
01:04:57,679 --> 01:04:59,920
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1367
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:03,360
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1368
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,639
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1369
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1370
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,920
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