1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Here shits. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,839 Speaker 1: Your source of information and analysis to help you win 4 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:16,160 your fantasy hockey league. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: Block off hot A step hit on, staylock. Here's your hosts, 6 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:24,239 Jesse Sevier and Victor Nuno. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Live. Back again. Jesse Severe fantracks, Victor Nunio, 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,679 the Fantasy Hockey Doctor. 9 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:32,439 Speaker 1: Victor. 10 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:33,359 Speaker 2: How you doing today? 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,679 Speaker 3: Hi? I am doing awesome, Jesse. I'm looking forward to 12 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,560 talking about another team with you. How you doing, I'm 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,000 doing good. 14 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:43,399 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Yeah, we're rolling through, man, I think 15 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:46,479 we're I gotta check the numbers. I gotta check the stats. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,200 But we're like two thirds of the way through at 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,719 this point. We're just absolutely ruling. You've been crushing scheduling 18 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:53,840 these things. This is the thing once a year that Victor. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,399 You schedule people throughout the year. Victor, but we we 20 00:00:57,399 --> 00:00:59,880 we greatly appreciate. I burn incense to you at this 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,640 time of year for your yeoman's work and doing all 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,200 this scheduling. 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Ryan, 53 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:44,680 how you doing today? 54 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Good? How are you guys doing great? 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,439 Speaker 2: Man doing great? 56 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: So I went back. 57 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:53,759 Speaker 2: I was looking at the history of the Carolina Hurricanes franchise. 58 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:56,520 But the beginning of the two thousands, the Kings messed 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,120 around at won a cup and we're runners up in another. 60 00:02:59,439 --> 00:03:01,919 But most of the rest of their franchise's existence in 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Hartford and Raleigh, they were not so great. I count 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,360 seven of their first thirty eight campaigns where they were 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,080 not in the bottom three of their division, and two 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,719 were those cup years. Then Rob Brendamore returned and that 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,719 hasn't happened at all in the last seven years, never 66 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:20,680 been in the bottom three of their division. In fact, 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,319 do you give the team the benefit of the doubt 68 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:25,400 for calling the qualifying round and the COVID year a 69 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:28,639 playoff round? They have won at least one round of 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,759 the playoffs in each year of his time in Carolina, 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,039 the only team in the NHL that can say that. 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,879 But folks have to be frustrated. It hasn't been quite 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,919 enough to get over the hump to a Cup finals 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,120 or better yet, a Stanley Cup. The team was not 75 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:47,479 screwing around last year. They took some swings on Miko 76 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:51,080 Ranton and even if that didn't work out, it still was. 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,680 It was bold and they were willing to move star 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,639 player Martin Achas had the Canes stalled or are they 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,080 building up in one of these is just gonna click? 80 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:04,199 What do you expect in Ryan for this team? 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's a very interesting team in that regard because, 82 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:09,479 like you said, they're competitive every year in and ye're 83 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:11,240 out the last seven years they've been in it. They 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,879 you can say, hey, this is a team that could 85 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:15,560 potentially win the Cup, and so it's very interesting to 86 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:17,759 keep up with them because there's a lot of chances here. 87 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:20,360 Hockey is such a game about getting your breaks kind 88 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,240 of everyone's staying healthy, finding a way to do it, 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,399 and then you get teams like the Florida Panthers that 90 00:04:24,439 --> 00:04:26,000 have managed to do it a year in and year out, 91 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:28,600 so you kind of hit these major roadblocks that are like, 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,319 it's not your year. But I really like how Carolina 93 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,600 is starting to shape up this year even maybe into 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,360 another year. They've got a good course set. They got 95 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,639 guys like special hosts Seph Jarvis, Jacob Slavin. They just 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,800 added Nikolai Eelers, they had Candre Miller, they have Alexander 97 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:46,199 nikkeishon coming in who they expect to be an impact player. 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,399 So the team's got a lot of really good pieces. 99 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:50,959 I think they're better on paper than they were last year. 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,319 So we'll see if they can continue. Young guys take 101 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:56,399 another step, guys work out, and we'll see what happens. 102 00:04:56,399 --> 00:04:58,480 I think I think there's still a team cable winning 103 00:04:58,519 --> 00:04:59,879 the Cup. I think they're better than the word last 104 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,560 So we'll see what happens. Maybe Florida goes for a 105 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,639 three p four straight Sanding Cup final appearances, but hey, 106 00:05:05,879 --> 00:05:06,399 who knows. 107 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about some of these star players on 108 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,839 the team. Sebastian Aho first among them. Aho's fifteen hundred 109 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:20,680 and eighty seven point nine to three minutes on ice 110 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:23,639 in seventy nine games is the second most amount of 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,240 time Brenda Moore has skated forward in his entire time 112 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:31,439 with the Canes. Only Aho in twenty eighteen nineteen had 113 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,439 more minutes than that. Aho is a solid bet every 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,920 year to get around a point per game play respectable 115 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:40,720 defense tilt the ice over the Brenda Moore era. Of 116 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:43,959 the nine hundred and thirty five skaters with at least 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,319 one thousand total minutes played with the highest Fenwick or 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,040 of course four percentage, ten of the top fifteen at 119 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,279 least some of that time were on the Carolina Hurricanes. 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,879 In terms of straight Fenwick four per sixty, Aho was 121 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,759 fourth among those nine hundred and thirty five, and on 122 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,199 the active scoring list, AHOs six hundred and thirty one 123 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,959 points put him fifty eighth among active players. For a 124 00:06:07,959 --> 00:06:11,920 guy who's twenty seven, no one is above him on 125 00:06:11,959 --> 00:06:15,519 that list of career scores who debuted after him, so 126 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:19,120 he is right at the top given when he debuted. Yet, 127 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,360 by my reckoning, in ninth seasons so far, Sebastianajo has 128 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:27,439 had one end of season All Star vote, a third 129 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:30,560 place vote, and has never snipped a major award. We 130 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:32,600 call a lot of guys underrated these days, but my 131 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,879 goodness is Aho underrated. What do you see in this guy, 132 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Sebastianaho's game and what do you anticipate for the man 133 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:41,920 in the coming year. 134 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just the kind of player that is just 135 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,480 never satisfied. He's the kind of guy that just he 136 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:49,959 works at his craft day in day out, and he 137 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:52,319 just always wants to get better. He committed. He started 138 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:54,759 with Carolina as a winger, but he wanted to be 139 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:56,160 a center and he want to play a natural position, 140 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,519 so he had to work. He had to work at 141 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:00,279 that every day. Rod Brenda warming is an assistant coach 142 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:02,680 after practice and all the things. Getting better face off, 143 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,839 is getting better defensive responsibility, and I think every year 144 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:07,920 the progression of him, he's like his two way game 145 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:09,720 has grown leaps and balanced and now he's one of 146 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,240 the premier two way players in the game. An excellent 147 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:14,879 penalty killer, he's a power play producer, He's he's number 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 one center. This is a guy that he'll do whatever 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,519 it takes to win because he just hates to lose. 150 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,040 It's one of those players and you can say the 151 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:24,079 guys love to win, but there's something to be said 152 00:07:24,079 --> 00:07:26,480 about guys who hate losing. I think that's something that 153 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,240 drives off like he'll just do whatever it takes to 154 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,079 get results. And while that hasn't been there for Carolina, 155 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:34,360 it's a guy you can put a bet on to 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,040 produce consistently. He's going to be the number one center 157 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,839 there at Carolina for years to come. There's really no 158 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:42,600 challenge there whatsoever. So he's going to get the minutes, 159 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,480 like you talked about, he's going to get that deployment 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,439 because it's all situations, all opportunities, and it's a guy that, 161 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,759 again the word forcess, he's just a gamer, like he 162 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:52,519 just goes out there and gives it as all every night. 163 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: I certainly think you could say a lot about that 164 00:07:57,319 --> 00:08:00,199 about Seth Jarvis, except for the whole center part. He's 165 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,839 the next guy that we're going to talk about. And yeah, 166 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:06,079 what a breakout seven season, seventy five point pace time 167 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,199 on ice went up a little bit, as did the 168 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,879 power play time on ice. All of his metrics seem 169 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 pretty sustainable and nothing seems way out of line. His 170 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,319 shooting percentage, his pdo all of that, and they show 171 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:20,399 up as elite defensively and pretty great defense offensively as well. 172 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:23,360 And his bash is four point seventy five per game. 173 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:26,240 His block shots and hits rank him pretty high eighty 174 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:28,480 ninth best skater in that metric, and to go with 175 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,039 the scoring, it's a he's a pretty pretty valuable fantasy asset. Ryan, 176 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,240 do you think Jarvis can take an even bigger step 177 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:36,960 to getting over a point per game or do you 178 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,120 think this is the range that we can expect him in. 179 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see Jarvis take even 180 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,360 another step. I think this is probably a confable range 181 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:47,440 for him being a top line winger if he gets 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,120 consistent top line time, because while he mostly played top 183 00:08:51,159 --> 00:08:53,519 line minutes this season, there's still a good chunk of 184 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:55,519 time where he's playing like third line with Jordan Stall 185 00:08:55,639 --> 00:08:59,039 Jordan Marnook, which drops his production down. But I think 186 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,279 we're getting to the point now where he's gonna just 187 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:04,519 be glue to Spashonho in that top line for I 188 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,960 wouldn't want to. I'm not gonna say complete definitely, because 189 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Rod Brunden Moore loves a little bit of a line adjustments. 190 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:12,480 He's not a guy to roll his top guns. But 191 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,559 Jarvis has just again, the growth that he has shown 192 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,960 as a player has just been outstanding. Because to focus 193 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,200 on his defensive game as he has to become one 194 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,039 of the top defensive wingers in the league while also 195 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,559 continuing to grow offensively. Back to back thirty goal seasons 196 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,200 or the most points he's ever had sixty seven. I 197 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,600 believe this season just getting on the board every night 198 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,000 and again, like shorthanded goals. He had five shorthanded goals. 199 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:37,960 He's produced on the power play. It's a guy that's 200 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,639 really developing into his own becoming a goal scorer. He 201 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,399 could do it anywhere. He's got a good shot. He 202 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,919 goes to the front of the net despite not being 203 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,120 the biggest guy. He's unafraid to do anything. And I 204 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:49,279 think it's just a guy like it's he gets older 205 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,639 and he gets more experienced in the league, gets stronger, 206 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,600 We're just gonna see him get even better. I would be. 207 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:56,080 I would say it's a safe bet to think that 208 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,960 Jarvis there's still more in the tank for him. There's 209 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,720 still more that he could show as a player. 210 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: Even Andre Svechnikoff that list of all the skaters fen 211 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:10,080 four per sixty of the nine hundred plus, Sevechnikoff was 212 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:12,480 second on the list, even higher than Ajo. I don't 213 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:14,600 know why. But I always have huge hopes for this 214 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:17,840 guy and it never comes out as high as I'm expecting. 215 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,279 Largely that's probably because he always seems to miss some 216 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,919 games and never seems to hit quite a point per 217 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,360 game pace. He's generally played close to seventeen minutes on ice, 218 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,039 which is probably good for the Kinge system but not 219 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,720 necessarily for counting stats for Spechnikoff, And last year he 220 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:36,480 missed only ten games, so that's an improvement. He'd been 221 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:39,559 missing more than that per per season. Upper body stuff 222 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,840 late in the season kind of messed him up, but geez, 223 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:44,279 two and a half shots and two hits are just 224 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:48,360 that's catnip to us fantasy folks. He's also never basically 225 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:50,840 sniffed an award, which to me is a little bit strange. 226 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:53,399 Maybe it's the production isn't quite obviously, it's not where 227 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,960 Ajos is. But at twenty five, Svechnikoff is still really young. 228 00:10:57,399 --> 00:11:00,240 What do you see in this guy and what's should 229 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,000 we expect for this coming year? Could he take a 230 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,559 big jump? 231 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? I've kind of been in some of the boats 232 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,639 to you, where like you come into the season every 233 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,600 year you're expecting a little more from Special Cough Like 234 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:12,519 he's a good player, don't get me wrong, but there's 235 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:14,960 always just something when you're watching, you're like, there should 236 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,399 be more here, Like he's got the size, he's got talent, 237 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,399 like he displays it, just for whatever reason, never quite clicks. 238 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,480 You talk about the injuries have always been a little 239 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,559 bit plaguing him. That ACL injury he suffered a couple 240 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,200 of years back, I think really hampered his game. It 241 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,720 takes players a long time to get up to level 242 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,320 and went on. I think with the NHL Edge skating 243 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 speed stats, you could see that he noticeably had lost 244 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,120 a step over the last two seasons. More was pre 245 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 ACL injury. So I'm curious of how much that has 246 00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:42,600 impacted him versus how much a couple of years later 247 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,759 he's elevating a little bit, because we saw in the 248 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:47,200 playoffs he was a very effective player that first round 249 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,279 series against New Jersey and he was all over it 250 00:11:49,879 --> 00:11:51,600 that a second round series in Washington too. He had 251 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,879 the series clincher and then fell off against Florida. But 252 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:56,320 I can also say that for most everybody on the 253 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,679 Carolina Hurricanes fell off against Florida. But no sketch, just 254 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,120 another guy that just you know, really direct hockey, like 255 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:05,879 he's always one this. He's gonna be shooting the puck, 256 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:07,720 he's gonna be throwing a hit, he's gonna be doing 257 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:10,039 something Like it's not a guy that goes invisible. It's 258 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:12,320 not a guy that kind of co surround. He's gonna 259 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,519 be doing something. And whether or not he could take 260 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,399 another big step, I don't know. Like you said, he's 261 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:19,519 still young. There's plenty of potential there if you can 262 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,600 get the top line deployment, if he can stay healthy. 263 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,440 There's the talent, is there? Guy he drafted second overall. 264 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:26,480 He had twenty even strength goals his first year in 265 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,480 the league. Like, this is a guy that can do 266 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,039 everything if it just clicks. And that's just a big 267 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,159 question mark, especially in the system like Caroline is, where 268 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:36,840 you're not being forced fed the minutes to be like 269 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:39,799 the top guy, the go to guy. So again I'm curious. 270 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:42,000 I don't know. It's like I said, I've been watching 271 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,759 him every year and it's like maybe this is year 272 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:45,679 he breaks out, or he'll have a really hot stretch, 273 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,440 but then I'll have the cold stretch. It's a very 274 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,919 inconsistent player. It's very I don't know what's the gauge 275 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:52,039 of him. I don't know what his ceiling is, but 276 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,000 I think, like I said, the things are there for 277 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,039 him to be even better than he is. I just 278 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:58,039 don't know if he's gonna ever quite put it together. 279 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: Taylor Hall. I got off the old Taylor Hall bandwagen 280 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,360 a couple of years ago when he went to a 281 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,440 really poor team and he pretty much had a loss 282 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,759 season to injury in Chicago. But still that former Heart 283 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:14,679 winner Taylor Hall seems to be aging somewhat gracefully at 284 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,799 this point, especially when he's placed in a depth role 285 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:20,080 on a good team, which he's had a couple of times. 286 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,039 He's set to play his mid thirties on a fairly 287 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,879 bargain contract and a depth role for the Keynes, and 288 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:28,360 his scoring rate after joining the team would pro rade 289 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:31,200 out to about the fifties. He actually had a forty 290 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,120 five point pace for the season, but he picked it 291 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,559 up in Carolina. Is that about what do you expect? 292 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,360 Scoring somewhere in the fifties playing an important depth role. 293 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,399 He was also getting some power play run with the 294 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,039 Canes and could that continue as well? 295 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:47,039 Speaker 1: Yeah? I could see. I coul definitely say forty to 296 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:48,960 fifty point range. Fifty may be in the higher end. 297 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,720 I think forties would be a good bet for him, 298 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,200 especially because I think the Hurricanes have a little more 299 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,080 winger depth they've hadded, especially with the Elers, where he's 300 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,039 not going to get as maybe as much top six times. 301 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,279 But I think Hall has been really good fitting Carolina. 302 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,000 It's a guy it's accepted where he is in his career. 303 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,120 There was a lot made about him back in the day. 304 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:08,320 Maybe there's a little drama or a little bit of 305 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,159 about character problems, when Carolina has been really good, really 306 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:13,200 fit in the locker room, and he's talked many times 307 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,639 about adapting his game to fitting into the role that 308 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:17,399 the way the Hurricanes want him to play, in the 309 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,840 depth role that he's found himself on team, being an 310 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,240 older veteran guy, And I think there's there's a lot 311 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,720 to be said about that. When you accept your role 312 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,919 and you can fit it, you play better hockey, I think. 313 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:28,480 And like you said, the power play time was good too. 314 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,480 He got some power play one time near the end 315 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,360 of the season Sechiankov was out, and he's really good 316 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,039 power play one too. Like I was surprised that they 317 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:37,919 went back to Sechiankov as soon as they did when 318 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,080 the playoffs started, but it worked for them in the postseason. 319 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,519 But Hall's fall has been a really good fit that 320 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:45,559 second Power Play Union the playoffs, especially him and stink 321 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:47,360 Covid have had a little bit of chemistry there too. 322 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:49,720 I really liked how they've balanced off one another whenever 323 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,799 they've played together. I think that could be a potential 324 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:54,840 sneaky line the Kanes figure out how they want to 325 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,840 play their centers. But no, I've really liked his fit. 326 00:14:57,919 --> 00:14:59,559 He's still got some good speed to him. Even with 327 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:01,639 the ac tair and being older, he's still got a 328 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:04,159 good burst on him. And I think it's again a 329 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 guy that is willing to do things for the team 330 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,879 and willing to play his role. And I think there's 331 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:10,080 a lot to be said about a guy like that. 332 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: All Right, We're gonna have things to say about Logan 333 00:15:14,919 --> 00:15:17,360 stank Covin too. He's the next guy up on our list, 334 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,480 and I love stank you so much. He's been one 335 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,679 of my favorite prospects coming up. It was a bit 336 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,639 of a world win for him, I'm sure, starting in 337 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,039 Dallas and feeling like he's getting his feet a little 338 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,960 bit settled. Then he gets traded at Carolina. I know 339 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Dallas really liked him, but got to give up something 340 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,960 to get Miko Ronton. And the time on ice was 341 00:15:34,039 --> 00:15:36,840 just over fifteen minutes for stank Covid with nearly two 342 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,000 minutes powerfulay time on ice, The pace was only forty 343 00:15:40,519 --> 00:15:42,919 and the bash is pretty low at three point five 344 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,360 to four block shots and hits, which ranking him in 345 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,759 the mid three hundreds. I know a lot of us 346 00:15:47,759 --> 00:15:50,360 have been waiting for the stank Covin breakout, but now 347 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,000 that he's with Carolina, Ryan, I wonder what that can 348 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,200 even look like. We know how they ration ice time 349 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,480 and spread it around. So what do you think we 350 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:00,279 can expect from stank Covin with a full season under 351 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:03,159 his belt? And do you think he can get over 352 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,080 a sixty point pace or what do you think we're 353 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,720 looking at here? 354 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty one sixty might be a little kind of 355 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,720 optimistic for stink Covid, especially, like I said, with Carolina 356 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:16,000 and have a little more winger depth than Now that 357 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:17,919 I could see him moved out, I could see him 358 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:19,799 on the second line. I could also see him playing 359 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:21,679 in the third line with Jordan Stall and Jordan Marnook, 360 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,960 and that's never great for your point total, but it is. 361 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,679 It's tough to say with the deployment of Carolina, but 362 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:29,840 I think the team is really big on Stink Covid 363 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:31,679 as the guy. They again, you give him an eight 364 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,200 year deal, you're going to be big on him. But 365 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:35,799 they really love how he's fitting with the team. I 366 00:16:35,799 --> 00:16:38,840 think he plays exactly that North South Caroline Hurricanes hockey. 367 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,879 He's not afraid to shoot the puck. This something I 368 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:43,080 really know, especially in the postseason, he was a guy that, 369 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,360 especially on that stall Marnock Lione like he was shooting 370 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,039 the puck like he just whenever he got it, got 371 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,360 the opportunity, he was putting that puck on net, and 372 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,759 it really paid off for him. He was probably the 373 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:52,960 most impactful player in that Florida series. He scored a 374 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,360 couple of really big goals. I could see that progression 375 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,279 kind of continuing for him because he's only got basically 376 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,840 two years in the league at this point. So it's 377 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,000 going to be a player that I think is going 378 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:04,119 to take really big steps as he continues to get older, 379 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,039 gets smarter, and he's five foot something on a good day, 380 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,279 it's not a big player whatsoever, but he plays way 381 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:11,680 bigger than his size. It's easy to overlook some of 382 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,599 these smaller guys, but the way he plays the game, 383 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,559 the hardy has, just the fearlessness he plays with North 384 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,319 South just go hockey. There's there's a lot of potential there, 385 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:21,920 and like I said, he could get power play two 386 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,880 time if there's like an injury up front. I know 387 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,720 Jarvis has been dealing with that shoulder injury that's kind 388 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,480 of been plaguing him for the last two seasons, but 389 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:31,440 it's something he can play through. But if something happens there, 390 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,759 Saint Kovin could easily be an option to slide up 391 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:36,119 to that R one spot, that right wing one. So 392 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,839 I think there's a lot of potential there for him 393 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,119 to grow as his seasons in Carolina gets. I don't know, 394 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:43,400 I could see maybe forty five fifty would be I 395 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,480 think fifty would be like the high end optimistic for 396 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,079 him this season, but we'll see how it goes for him. 397 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,000 I think it's a player of the team's very excited 398 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 to have and to see what he can be. 399 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: Definitely, I'm definitely in that camp. Also, was really excited 400 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 to see Jackson Blake this season. He's someone who I've 401 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,920 liked for a long time. I thought that he could 402 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,440 be an impactful player. I didn't quite think it was 403 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,759 going to happen this season, though. I thought that he 404 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:12,160 could maybe make it after a season in the AHL, 405 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:14,640 or maybe split some time. But playing eighty games was 406 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:20,000 pretty awesome. Seventeen goals is remarkable, especially considering he only 407 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,480 took one hundred and forty one shots, not the biggest shooter. 408 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,079 One point one to eight per game is pretty low, 409 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,759 and his percentage was twelve, which is reasonable if he 410 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:30,920 seems like a high efficiency guy. But you definitely want 411 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,200 to see those shots bump up and maybe he can 412 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,160 even put more in the net. He ended up with 413 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,079 a thirty five point pace. The time on ice was 414 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,759 really low thirteen fifty one for a total, but he 415 00:18:40,839 --> 00:18:43,119 was pretty much staple to Ajo and Jarvis for a 416 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,559 lot of the season. His underlying defensive metrics are incredible. 417 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,519 He seems like a really fantastic two way forward. I 418 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,319 saw him take the puck away from a lot of players, 419 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,839 and really, even though he's a bit undersize, is sneaky 420 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,279 good two way. He doesn't really bash, he doesn't shoot much, 421 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:01,279 but he also doesn't hit or block, So two point 422 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:04,240 thirty eight is his total bash per game, which ranks 423 00:19:04,319 --> 00:19:07,480 him six hundred and tenth, which is pretty low. Aside 424 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,960 from that, Ryan, what do you think we can expect 425 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,960 from Blake in his second full season? Do you think 426 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,200 he can get over I don't know, fifty to fifty 427 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,119 five point pace. He does seem to be playing a 428 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,839 little bit higher in the lineup than staink Covid, at 429 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,440 least for now. 430 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he can stay on the top line, which 431 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:23,799 again is not a given, especially with the addition of 432 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Nikolai Eilers and whatnot, I could definitely he's definitely going 433 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:30,119 to be a more stable producer than he was I 434 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,759 think this season because he primarily played for about half 435 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:36,000 the season. I think it was until January, he was 436 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:38,640 pretty much a fourth line player, not really not a 437 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,400 ton of minutes in the four, flying, not playing with 438 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,160 a ton of playmakers and whatnot. But as as I 439 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,640 think it was about January, it was when Miko Randon 440 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,279 came in and they had a bunch of illnesses in 441 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:50,119 the locker room. They were just experimenting with moving guys around. 442 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,359 Jackson Blake got up to that top line and just 443 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,960 never looked back. If you had told me at the 444 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,920 beginning of the year going to training camp, you're like, yeah, 445 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,319 this was like they have a couple promising rookies and 446 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,880 Jackson Blake's going to be the one. He's gonna make 447 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,640 it the team. Straight out of camp, I'd been like, 448 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,000 you're crazy, Like I would not have believed it. But 449 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,319 the kid's done it. He's just been outstanding as an 450 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,960 NHL player. Like you talked about those defensive metrics you've 451 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,400 talked about, his ability is steel pucks too, like his 452 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,680 takeaway his he reads play so well just to be 453 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:18,359 able to just quickly stick lift, pull a puck off 454 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,160 the wall, get it back the other way in the 455 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,599 neutral zone. His stick handling is incredible. Guy. He looks 456 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,400 like the puck is glued to his stick all the 457 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,079 times I watch him practices, especially, and it's just his 458 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,279 stick handling is just marvelous. He's really he drives the 459 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:32,839 net with that stick handling too. He can get in 460 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,039 really tight. One of the problems is coming to somebody 461 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:37,559 you brought up too. He doesn't shoot a lot. It's 462 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:39,079 one of the ones who like, hey, kid, like I 463 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,240 get it your first year in the league. You're deferring 464 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:44,039 to the pros. The guys that you know are scores. 465 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,119 But it's hey, kid, you were you were talented, you 466 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,559 weren't doing all this stuff. Don't be afraid to shoot. 467 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,559 I think the staff has probably worked with him a 468 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,440 little bit on that. I think it's as he gets older, 469 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,359 the message will get more across. Hey, shoot the puck, 470 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,079 just don't be afraid. So I think we'll see definitely 471 00:20:57,079 --> 00:21:00,359 a progression there for him. I'm curious how the Nikola's 472 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,759 addition is going to affect him and his deployment because 473 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:05,240 he got a lot of time up on the top 474 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:08,839 line with whether we Specchikov or Jarvis along said Oho, 475 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,359 but I think with Eelers it could bump him down 476 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 a little bit. So I'm curious to see how much 477 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,720 he plays. But it'll definitely be he'll definitely get more 478 00:21:16,759 --> 00:21:19,599 playing time than he averaged. This one hundred percent guarantee 479 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:21,200 that he's going to be a top six guy. But 480 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,400 Rod Brendmore loves him like he played on power Play 481 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,200 one for pretty much the entire postseason two and every 482 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,920 time he was asked about it. Are you worried about 483 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,839 having smaller guys and you're power He's like, Hey, I'm 484 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,200 putting the best five guys out there. That's just my plan. 485 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:34,799 And so there's the staff has a ton of trust 486 00:21:34,839 --> 00:21:36,599 in Blake. They really like him as a player. So 487 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,880 he's going to get deployment. He's going to get opportunity, 488 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,160 and I think we could see that point total maybe 489 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,839 fifty if he gets the deployment. I wouldn't be too 490 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,759 surprised to see him because he is. His growth has 491 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,519 been just outstanding. It's been really exponential to watch. 492 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,039 Speaker 2: You talk about the five guys out there frequently one 493 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:58,839 of those best five guys has been seen Gasta Speer. 494 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:01,599 He took the time power play spot last year as 495 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:03,599 we moved to the blue line for quite competent team. 496 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,559 Power play production is never through the roof, but he's 497 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,839 turned into a competent, consistent player later in his career 498 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,599 when early on maybe he was thought of as not 499 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,039 so consistent, but goals about replacements, says his offense and 500 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,200 defense were the best of his career last year. Of course, 501 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,799 was traded to the Kings from Zona in twenty two 502 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,960 to twenty three and then took a year in Detroit 503 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,200 and then was back in Carolina last year. Now Brent 504 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:29,799 Burns is out the door. We'll talk about the guy 505 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:32,079 who's coming to the team here in a minute. But 506 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:36,519 could Ghost is Bear be the power play quarterback with 507 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,839 another fifty to five is ish point season or do 508 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,440 you expect him to be supplanted. 509 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,599 Speaker 1: No, I definitely think shit Ghost is going to be 510 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,359 this still the number one guy. I don't think Miller 511 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,680 really is like a top power play option, and I 512 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,559 think Nikeishin has that potential, but I don't think he's 513 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,119 gonna get the opportunity right away. Especially I could see 514 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,960 him maybe in some power play two time if someone's injured, 515 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,400 but I think Rod beren Or going to be a 516 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,200 little cautious about tossing a rookie in right on that 517 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,480 topy in it. But like I said, we've seen the 518 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:07,200 keach player. But back to Ghost, No, I think he's 519 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,680 gonna be the power play one guy. I think he's 520 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000 gonna get that consistent time while he's not He's not 521 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:12,559 gonna get a lot of five on five minutes. The 522 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,079 Knes really were really big on sheltering him this season, 523 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,240 especially in his deployment on that third pair with Sean 524 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:21,079 Walker because he's gonna get the power play time, and 525 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,480 the power play was actually a lot better for Carolina 526 00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:26,359 than it had been in the postseason. I should say 527 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,359 then it was like through the regular season they were 528 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,480 super hot when they had Martine Achius on the team, 529 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:33,559 and then after they traded him, that power play tanked. 530 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,640 That power play got really bad, really quick, but they 531 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,519 picked it back up in the postseason. I think the 532 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,480 team is figuring out how to do zone entries more 533 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,759 without Natus, because the strategy was just pass it backwards. 534 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:45,799 Na just picks it up, skates to the neutrals, gets 535 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:47,880 in the because he's so fast. I think maybe they 536 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,160 can get back to that kind of efficiency of Elers too. 537 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,440 This is kind of the what I've seen him tagged 538 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,000 as the kind of skater he is in this ability 539 00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:56,559 with the puck. But I think Gospar is gonna still 540 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,279 be the power play one quarterback. His five on five 541 00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:01,359 production hasn't been outstanding Carolina. I think because of that 542 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,839 sheltered minutes and all that, with the power play productions 543 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:05,599 still been really good. I think Caroline's power play is 544 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:07,079 going to be even better this year than it was 545 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,200 last regular season. So I think he can still be 546 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,720 a consistent, good producer. 547 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned KeAndre Miller. I would agree with 548 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,000 your sentiment, but let's ask you about him. Anyways, he 549 00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,200 came over from the New York Rangers after three hundred 550 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,640 and sixty eight games played. He's been a thirty point 551 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,519 pace player his career. He does log heavy minutes. The 552 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:30,599 bash is solid four point four to one per game, 553 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,440 ranks HI one hundred and fortieth of all skaters, which 554 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,680 is pretty nice. I don't imagine that he's suddenly going 555 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,319 to discover some offensive prowess that he never had, but 556 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359 maybe in this system he can have a little bit 557 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,720 more value. What do you think Miller's role is going 558 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,240 to be with the Canes or do you think we 559 00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:48,519 can expect similar numbers as we have in New York. 560 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,759 Speaker 1: I think offensively we could probably see similar numbers. I'm 561 00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:56,200 curious to see though, because, like I said, like two 562 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,000 years ago, if you're looking at Cawndre Miller, you're like, 563 00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:59,680 this guy's on the up and up, like he's just 564 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,680 getting better and he's looking like a really impactful player 565 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,839 in the league. And then just the situation in New 566 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,559 York has been really weird because however many coaches. He's 567 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:09,640 had five or so different head coaches in New York 568 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,720 for Caandre, and there's every new coach is different systems, 569 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:14,599 different approaches of the game, and I'm curious how that 570 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,519 how that impacts a player he comes to somewhere like 571 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,160 Carolina that's had the same systems a little tweaks here 572 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,920 and there, but pretty much the same type of system 573 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,839 for years and years of established players that know how 574 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920 to play it, and it can insulate a guy like 575 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,480 and also cares where he's gonna play. Is he gonna 576 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,880 play his offhand with Jacob Slave and potentially because the 577 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,279 team really likes his size and his stick work, because 578 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:37,319 Caroline is a team that really emphasizes utilizing the stick 579 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,759 more so than like hits or whatnot to win pucks, 580 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,319 win puck battles. So I'm curious to see how they 581 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,400 deploy him. And he's going to be like alongside Slaven 582 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,200 maybe on his offhand, which can lead a little more 583 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,880 offense to get a better one time option being on 584 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,119 your off hand as a lefty. Is he gonna play 585 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,839 alongside Jalen Chadfield maybe in that a second pair role 586 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,279 a little more defensively minded. It's I'm curious to see 587 00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,920 how the team utilizes him. But again, they really like 588 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,519 the player, eight year deal, so they have some sort 589 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,720 of playing in mind for him. But I'm curious to 590 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,079 see what works out for him because I'm not too short. 591 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,640 Is it gonna be like the offensive option next to 592 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,359 slave in. Is he gonna be more of a defensive 593 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,799 shutdown guy alongside like Chatfield. I'm not quite sure how 594 00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,839 his deployment is gonna work out in Carolina. But again, 595 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,119 it's a player that I think was two years ago 596 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,079 was like meteor work rise, and I think that's what 597 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,759 Carolina season him still, So I could they're gonna log 598 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:24,640 he's gonna get big minutes, he's gonna play that I 599 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,960 think a top four role one. It's just whether or 600 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,880 not they're gonna see him as a offensive option or 601 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,240 a just hey, just play your game, keep it simple, 602 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,480 just play Hurricanes hockey, which for a couple of years 603 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480 ago was actually very defensively heavy. So we'll see. 604 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: Well, I for one, think it's a perfect addition for 605 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,680 their style and to cover up the weaknesses that kender 606 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,200 Miller does have, which aren't many. But I think that 607 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:51,799 he could be a perfect fit for this system, So 608 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,920 maybe we'll see a bump up. We'll see the guy 609 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,559 I'm most excited to see from the Hurricane Zoh is 610 00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:01,279 their top defensive prospect, Alexander nikish And we've been waiting 611 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,680 and talking about the big Russian defender for years in 612 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,240 fantasy circles, just salivating at the prospect of him coming 613 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,920 over because not only has he had strong production in 614 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,119 the KHL, but he has been a bash master. His 615 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,640 bash in the KHL continues to be excellent. Of course, 616 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,240 it depends on what kind of time on ice he 617 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:20,240 gets and what kind of role. We did see him 618 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,000 a little bit in the playoffs. He came over after 619 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,480 the KHL playoffs and played in four games for the Canes, 620 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:27,599 just under sixteen minutes time on ice. His role was 621 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,319 clearly limited as he was adjusting to North American ice 622 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,640 and the system and everything, and that's all to be expected. 623 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,160 I don't think that's any indication of his future role. 624 00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:37,519 But that's why we have you here to tell us. 625 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:39,160 What do you think Nikishon's role is going to be 626 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,119 next season. I think that ultimately he can be a 627 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,880 top pair defender, but I don't know if that's going 628 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,599 to happen this season is probably going to take a 629 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:48,160 little bit of time. So tell us what you think 630 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,880 we can expect. 631 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, it's a very interesting because I'm like, when 632 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,079 I look at the Hurricanes defense, I'm like, how are 633 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,880 they going to four lefties two righties? It's going to 634 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,799 be some sort of a little weirder combination. They have 635 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,599 some obvious spots like locked in, like Slave's obviously gonna 636 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,000 be your number one lefty, Jalen Chapel is obviously going 637 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:09,039 to be a second pair defenseman. But how everyone else falls, 638 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:11,160 it's gonna be very interesting. And like he said, Nikishan 639 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,880 just the potential is through the roof everybody. All I've 640 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,640 ever heard through my Twitter sphere and everything on social 641 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,559 media from fans was always just about nikish And and how 642 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,480 excited everyone was to see him, and when he finally 643 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,720 came to North America, how every game he didn't play 644 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,880 was a tragedy. But watching him in the postseason, that 645 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200 first game against Washington, the game five or whatever in 646 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,640 the elimination didn't look great, and that's to be expected 647 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,039 because it was his first North American game. He doesn't 648 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,000 speak the language, great. The team has talked a ton 649 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,000 about how the language bearer has been hard for him 650 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:45,079 to overcome, especially in playoff hockey where so much communication 651 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,960 somebody switches, especially the Hurricane system, when somebody switches so 652 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 many call outs, that a civil for him. And I 653 00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:52,079 think he said that first game against Florida was also 654 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,039 a little tough. He's playing lines to mee Jorlov It 655 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:55,640 was like a minus four in that game and it 656 00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:58,160 just things really. But after that, like the next the 657 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,480 last two three games he played, and that in the 658 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,599 Hurricane season, good lord, you could see why this guy 659 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,400 is as hyped up as he was. Like his ability 660 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:12,079 just to replays, get pucks up, move pucks, skate, hit everything. 661 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:13,920 It was the full packagers on display, and you're like, 662 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:16,759 this is this kid's a rookie in the postseason against 663 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,240 the Florida Panthers, which have been the best hockey team 664 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,400 for the last two years, hands down, and he was 665 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,119 looking like a competent top four defenseman, and it was 666 00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,119 you could see why everyone was hype. You could see 667 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,480 what the You're like, Okay, yeah, this is the guy. 668 00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,160 Holy crap, this is this looks like a really good 669 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,759 hockey player And so it'd be very interesting to see 670 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:36,359 how the Hurricanes utilize him next year because I think 671 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:38,279 he can be a top four option right away, but 672 00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,440 I think Carolina is very cautious about They're like, hey, 673 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,920 we don't want to rush him. We want him to 674 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,559 take his time, we want him to adjust, and we 675 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,799 don't want to put him in a situation where he 676 00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:49,319 can regress or he can get too overwhelmed and lose 677 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,240 some of his edge of what makes him a star. 678 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,319 So I could definitely see a slower deployment for him 679 00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,480 and potentially working his way up. And it's could it 680 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,720 could take full year for him to really get to 681 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,640 that point where he's playing big minutes because Caroline is 682 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,960 a team that loves to have their defensive pair set 683 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,440 and then not switch off of those whatsoever barring an injury. 684 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:13,559 And like I said, the potential is huge off the 685 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200 roof big powerful shot. Like he dropped a ninety bomb 686 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,359 in the postseason. Remember just looking up at the shot 687 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,799 clock and it was like, look effortless from me, and 688 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,839 I was like, Okay, this guy's something. So it'll be 689 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,440 very interesting to watch to see what he does. I 690 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,599 don't think the deployment will be there for him this season, 691 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,400 but it definitely wanted to look for in the future. 692 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I'll do that, Jesse, don't worry. It was 693 00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,839 really fun at the draft too, because their defensive pick, 694 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,240 Curban Limitov. I asked him who he liked and who 695 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,640 he modeled his game after, and he was like Nikishin 696 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,519 and then he said maybe a bit between Nikishon and 697 00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:51,400 Dallen And I was like, wait to aim high, bro, 698 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:52,720 that's that's fantastic. 699 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: So that was really I think it wasn't he like 700 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,839 they did like the draft, like like pre interview and 701 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:00,000 it was like who's gonna who's like your favorite player? 702 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,319 He was like me in five years. It was like 703 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:05,160 that kid's got some swagger. 704 00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:07,559 Speaker 3: He does. He was a quote machine. In fact, I 705 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,240 don't think anyone stood at the podium and talked longer 706 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,119 than he did. And I didn't know if that was 707 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,680 because he needed an interpreter or whether he just yeah, 708 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,119 had the swagger and personality. Maybe a bit of both, 709 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,559 but it was pretty fantastic to watch. We did Ryan 710 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,960 forget you'd ask you about Elers, So I'm going to 711 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,160 pretend like we were just talking about Blake and I'm 712 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880 going to ask you about Elers because you had already 713 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,079 mentioned them in that sense, Okay, And of course we 714 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,279 need to ask you about Nikolai. Eeler's the big free 715 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,640 agent grab. He's been in Winnipeg for such a long time, 716 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640 and I think some of us in fantasy circles were 717 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,279 super disappointed he went to Carolina because the one thing 718 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,440 we've been asking is give him more time and top line, 719 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,200 and I don't know that's going to happen in Carolina 720 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,680 just because of the other players that are there and 721 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680 the way that they structure their lines. What do you 722 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,480 think is going to happen with Elers? What do you 723 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,119 think he fits? And do you think he can and 724 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,400 still be this seventy plus point player that we know 725 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,119 he can be when he gets enough opportunity. 726 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think Eelers is going to be top 727 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,160 line right off the rip, if not second line, because 728 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,880 this is a guy that, like you talked about, has 729 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,400 just been super duper productive even in a limited, more 730 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,799 limited role than probably should have been in Winnipeg. Like, 731 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,759 he just plays a really strong game. He's fast, he's quick, 732 00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:28,680 great hands, really creative with the puck, and I think 733 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,799 Carolina is going to be able to find a little 734 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:32,359 bit of that magic they might have lost when they 735 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,799 lost Martin Achis, because I've seen a lot of people 736 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,240 compare the two in playing style. They're skating ability and 737 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,920 all that. Where it's Elers can have a little more 738 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,920 creativity getting through the neutral zone a little more better 739 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200 zone entries, which can help the power Play two if 740 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,640 he's on power Play one. But I think having a 741 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,000 guy like Elers, especially playing alongside a Sebastian Aho, can 742 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,880 really help open up the ice because I think Sebastian 743 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Aho gets it, gets collapsed on a lot, especially like 744 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,319 in the postseason. It's really tough because he gets tired. 745 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,079 He's like the number one that are like the best 746 00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,880 assignments get put on him, and there's a lot of 747 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,279 pressure on him to produce this as because the Caroline 748 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,759 doesn't have a ton of great like zone enters and whatnot, 749 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:09,759 and so eithers adds that element that they had been 750 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:13,960 lost when they lost Martinetis. And it's just like I said, 751 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,359 a lot of the systematic things, it fits what Caroline 752 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,039 wants to do as a player that Caroline has tried 753 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,680 to obtain multiple times. They've tried to trade for him 754 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,480 on more than one occasion, and so they finally have 755 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,599 gotten their guy. And I think there's still going to 756 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,519 be a bump in deployment for him because he's going 757 00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:29,359 to get powerbably one time, he's going to get top 758 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160 line minutes. I think there's gonna be more point And 759 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,799 while it's not as we typically see from top lines 760 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,200 around the league, as Carolina it likes to roll four lines, 761 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,359 it'll still be I think more deployment, a little more 762 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:45,160 opportunity for him than he had previously had. Love it. 763 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: We really hope that's the case. Let's move on. Let's 764 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,599 move on to the crease. The Hurricanes were ranked eleventh 765 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,319 and expected goals against per sixty and but only conceded 766 00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,759 the tenth ranked actual goals. Both of their goalies helped 767 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:06,559 can tribute to this. The Pieter kucheck cough was ended 768 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,599 up playing forty seven games with Anderson twenty two, and 769 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,360 both of them had Actually kocheck Kov had a little 770 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,639 bit negative goal save above expected, whereas Anderson had a 771 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,920 little bit more positive metrics and a more limited sample size. 772 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,639 I know that there was a little bit of a 773 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,599 difference in terms of the playoff games played, but we 774 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,159 can never seem to count on Anderson in terms of 775 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,039 his health, and so that's always the issue in terms 776 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:34,440 of how many games is he going to play. He 777 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,679 did sign a new one year deal, so what do 778 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,679 you think we're going to happen? And we're going to 779 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,880 see this next year in terms of the splits between 780 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,679 the two in terms of the money, they're actually making 781 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,400 a little bit more similar now. But is Anderson still 782 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,920 the main guy? Is he going to get like a 783 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,400 sixty to forty split or something else. What do you 784 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,679 think we're going to see in the crease? 785 00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: I think so long as Carolina can keep both guys healthy, 786 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:00,639 they really want to do like a pure fifty fifty split, 787 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,400 Like they've had tons of success with it when they've 788 00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:06,400 rotated their goaltenders and their team that even if a 789 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,239 guy gets a shutout like the like two nights before, 790 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,840 like they're still gonna be like, eh, we're gonna get 791 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,400 the other guy. Because I think Camline's really team that 792 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,360 believes that keeping a guy rested, mentally ready prepared is 793 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,679 like so good, especially given the history of both these goaltenders. 794 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,079 We know Frederick Anderson has a laundry list of injuries 795 00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:26,880 he's gone through throughout his career, and the last season 796 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,079 he had knee surgery to repair something. And from what 797 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,119 I've heard, the knee surgery was like to clean up 798 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,599 something that he didn't necessarily need it, but it was 799 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,559 something that cleans it up to prevent further things down 800 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,119 the line. So but perhaps this year could be one 801 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:41,760 where he stays a little more healthy because he had 802 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,760 a procedure to deal with things and prevent future problems. 803 00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,559 And in the postseason he was outstanding, Like he was 804 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,760 one of the best goaltenners in the postseason. You talked 805 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,360 about in the regular season, I think he had a 806 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,159 little bit weaker numbers to the start of the year, 807 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,199 but then when he came back he was really strong again. 808 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,400 The Jakov as a goaltender that I believe a lot 809 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,440 in and it also leaves me wanting a lot in 810 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,559 when he's on. He's such a good goaltender, Like he's 811 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:12,920 super athletic, super strong at reading plays, really explosive. We've 812 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,559 all seen the clips of the poke Chetkov coming out 813 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,599 with a flying po check the old school style, but 814 00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:21,800 then the valleys are really bad too, Like he when 815 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,719 he has a bad game, it could sometimes spiral into 816 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,119 two to three really bad games in a row. And 817 00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,639 when you for an NHL goaltender, the number one thing 818 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:31,239 is consistency, and so that's the biggest thing he's lacking. 819 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,159 It's he just hasn't been able to find a consistent streak. 820 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,440 But Carolina still believes it only still he's had good games. 821 00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,280 I think, like the negative goals saved above expected really 822 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,400 happened that final I think seven or so regular season 823 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,239 games he played and really just it was one of 824 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,000 those kind of moments where he had a really bad game. 825 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,639 It's la led in seven goals and then just could 826 00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:53,039 not get his feet under him again. It'll be interesting. 827 00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:54,920 I think Carolina will go a fifty to fifty split 828 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,840 if both guys can stay healthy again a big if. 829 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,800 Neither one has really had great prolonged health in the league. 830 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,320 But if Carolina can keep both guys healthy, they want 831 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,480 to go a true fifty to fifty split. I believe. 832 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: Tremendous, Ryan, this has been a world wind tour around 833 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,559 the Carolina or Hurricanes. How can people keep up with 834 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,519 the Canes and with you all year long? 835 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: Yep, So I work I right for the hockey news. 836 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,519 So you can find me the Carolina Hurricanes, the hockey 837 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,400 news team site, daily content pretty much. Summer is a 838 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,039 little more questionable as there's really not a ton going 839 00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:28,880 on right now, but you know when the season's going on. 840 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,679 Daily content. You can follow me on X, slash, Twitter, 841 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,679 whatever you call it nowadays at RYA, n h E, 842 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,639 n k L Underscore. I'm also on Blue Sky. I 843 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,880 post articles to threads. You can find me sometimes in 844 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,280 the Cane subreddit. I'm around a bunch of places, but 845 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,159 if you're trying to contact me or comment or do anything, 846 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,199 most of the time you'll find me on Twitter, slash X. 847 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,199 Speaker 2: All right, tremendous people definitely need to do that. Thank 848 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,320 you for coming and talking with us today. 849 00:37:53,400 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 4: Ryan, yep, thanks for having me, guys Wolf Since then, 850 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:09,400 that's good fire pets, Oh my goodness, rom long with 851 00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:09,920 a cat. 852 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 3: What cram. 853 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:19,639 Speaker 2: Now, it's your weekly goalie talk with Kat's Silverman, Kat's Instincts. 854 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,039 Speaker 3: Once again for Kat's Instincts with Kat Silverman of Gold 855 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:26,599 mag We're talking Carolina Hurricanes goalies, which you know it's 856 00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,079 gonna include some Russians and here we go. So the 857 00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:33,599 first Russian, Ruslan Kaziyev, six four two one pounds draft 858 00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:35,960 in the fifth round back in twenty twenty three. This 859 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719 past season, he made the drump to North America from Russia, 860 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,400 played for the Chicago Wolf and the HL, which did 861 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,760 not go particularly well. I would say it was unfortunate. 862 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,320 I've really liked him when he was His MHL production 863 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,559 in the MHL was fantastic, but as often happens, that 864 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,920 transition was a bit rough. His twenty games in the 865 00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:58,000 HL eight seventy six eight percentage three point four nine GA. 866 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,320 They did send him down to the ECCH out for 867 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,239 one season, and that was awful, and we don't even 868 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,000 to talk about that. Looking at some of his comps 869 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:08,920 in this model, there's a swath of Chris Drieger to Hellebuk, 870 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,800 to Flurry to Alexey Melnichuk, who had a lot of 871 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,480 potential at one point and then came over and then 872 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,760 went back to Russia. So I don't know what to 873 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,559 think of all this, Kap, But that's why you're here. 874 00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:22,119 What do your instincts tell us about Kaziev he is? 875 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 5: I love what the Hurricanes do when they draft their goaltenders, 876 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,800 because they truly pick a smattering of everything. They created 877 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,599 everything Bagel from their depth charts. They have plays such 878 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,880 an aggressive physical game, which I know we've talked about 879 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,079 in the past, how not every goaltender comp from the 880 00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:48,400 model necessarily physically matches the style of the players that 881 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,400 come up as their comps. They don't always match the 882 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:57,119 same build or career trajectory. But Connor Hallibuk's style of 883 00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,960 being really big but unafraid to use the body, I 884 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,800 guess it's the best way to put it, kind of 885 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,960 what I would say is the best way to describe 886 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,519 what Kaziev does. He really doesn't mind challenging shooters, He 887 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:11,880 really doesn't mind coming out of his net, doesn't mind 888 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,320 playing the puck, doesn't mind really spending a lot of 889 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,679 time skating around. He does have a pretty good game 890 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,159 on his knees, so it's not like he's doing that 891 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,320 out of We do sometimes see that with bigger goaltenders 892 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,400 who struggle to get in and out of butterfly, where 893 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,679 they're essentially trying to prevent themselves from having to use 894 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,599 too much lower lateral movement. And that's not really a 895 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,079 concern for him. It just seems like he's got this 896 00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:46,719 endless wealth of energy and he is unafraid to use 897 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,599 all of it during a game. It was fun as 898 00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:51,920 a word that I would use as someone who is 899 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,159 not individually invested in the season of the Carolina Hurricanes. 900 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,519 I don't know fun is the word that Carolina Hurricanes 901 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:03,440 fans would but it was fun watching him adjust to 902 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:10,679 North American hockey, just because his timing had a learning 903 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,639 curve to it. There's really no other way to put it. 904 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,840 His timing really seemed like it operated on vibes only, 905 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,880 and that's okay. I thought it was a lot of 906 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,400 It was a good, high energy style of play. It 907 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,360 didn't seem like he lost his technique when the wheels 908 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,440 fell off and the train started rolling downhill at rapid speed. 909 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,320 But it did seem like he needed just a little 910 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:42,079 bit more spatial awareness and a little more command over 911 00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,159 his timing, just because he does like to move around 912 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:46,960 so much, and it seems like he was singed of 913 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,400 getting into the rhythm of what the game looked like, 914 00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:53,880 especially at the age all level. So we'll see if 915 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,400 that improves this year. Sometimes that's something that just takes experience. 916 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,199 Sometimes that's something that a goaltender prefers. A really wide 917 00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,760 open rink dimension never really finds it in North America, 918 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,639 but I'd say we'll notice pretty quickly if it's something 919 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,039 that he's going to be able to do, because it 920 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,440 didn't look like it was necessarily a technique thing or 921 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,280 like it was a stamina thing for him. It just 922 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,960 seemed like he was like the vibes were misaligning a 923 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,320 little bit, but they were still there. 924 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: So we'll see how that goes. 925 00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a lot of fun to watch. 926 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,079 Speaker 3: Nice why not take another Russian and why not have 927 00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:36,239 one more in the system, which is what they decided 928 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,760 to do, of course, so they there was this I 929 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,880 don't think was the best year for goalie in the draft. 930 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,119 There wasn't like a scar Off or a Wallstead or 931 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,400 guys like that, but there was mentioning ones. And there 932 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,480 were two goalies taken before Simeon Froloff, who is who 933 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,920 they took at the forty first overall pick, and by 934 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960 a lot of people's rankings, he was one of the best, 935 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,519 so Peter Andreanov and Josh Ravensberg, and we're certainly in 936 00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,960 that conversation. But the fact that they were able to 937 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480 get for all Off a little bit later I think 938 00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,519 was a good piece of business. He was drafted. As 939 00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:13,679 I mentioned the second round. He played only in the 940 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,400 MHL this past season, which always makes it a little 941 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,239 hard to evaluate these prospects. But his numbers there were 942 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,800 pretty good, and he has six three hundred and ninety 943 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,840 six pounds, so he's got good size. His equivalency in 944 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,480 the Hockey Prospecting models twenty nine percent. There's a bunch 945 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,440 of guys who a bunch of NHL ares who look 946 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,440 like that at that stage. So not really a whole 947 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,000 lot to say in terms of comps. We need a 948 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,199 little bit more data on that. But Kat, what can 949 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,880 her instincts tell us about Frollin And where did you 950 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,639 have him ranked amongst this crop of twenty twenty five goalies. 951 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 5: He was a wait and see for me. I didn't 952 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,079 necessarily have him as someone who needed to was like 953 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,320 a Muss draft. But I didn't think he was a 954 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,440 baffling pick. I thought he was a baffling pick for 955 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,199 as high as he was, But I also thought that 956 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,039 was a baffling pick for as high as he was 957 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:08,440 given the organization that took him, because I don't necessarily 958 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,519 think that they needed to do that. They didn't need 959 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,480 to do all that. As the kids would say, I 960 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:18,480 think he's probably a longer term project for them. Just 961 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,079 like you said, he's still playing in the NHL. Hopefully 962 00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:25,760 we'll see some kh I'll action this year, but right 963 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,719 now his conditioning looks like it's not fully ready to 964 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,119 move over to North America. I do think that he's 965 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,679 still kind of working on his decision making because he 966 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,039 does like to play a little bit of a more 967 00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,840 athletic game, but he's not quite as explosive or powerful 968 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,599 as keziyev Is. 969 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. 970 00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,639 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna wait and see for me. But 971 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,280 I don't think he was a mistake to pick. I 972 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:59,280 just think they probably picked him with I don't know 973 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,920 how to put it. I think they picked him knowing 974 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,199 that they need to make sure that they have goaltenders 975 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,079 ready at multiple different stages, which I think some other 976 00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:13,239 organizations could probably learn from. I do think that he's 977 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,000 always off though, and I think they probably know that too. 978 00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: The Kines, I think, just like having a robust and 979 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,639 deep system at every position, so why not why not 980 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,639 just take another goalie? Yeah, So anyways, certainly many other 981 00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:32,480 teams would like to have half the depth that the 982 00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:36,280 Kanes have at their prospect system. But thanks cav forgiving 983 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,800 us your instincts on the Caroline Hurricanes' goalies. 984 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,079 Speaker 2: Victor, there is something else we got to talk about. 985 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,039 Don't we have something special to give to the listeners. 986 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 3: That's right, Jesse Dauber Hockey has generously given us a 987 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,679 couple of free copies of their amazing fantasy hockey guide. 988 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,000 It's the Bible. It's the best fantasy hockey guide out there, 989 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,559 and we're to give it away to some of our listeners. 990 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,960 All you need to do is leave us a recent 991 00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,440 from the time you hear this five star review on 992 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,360 appule Pad Podcasts or the podcast app of your choice, 993 00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:13,639 and then send it to me, Victor, a screenshot with 994 00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:16,639 your name or a way to identify you and your 995 00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:20,119 most recent five star review, otherwise I don't have a 996 00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:21,960 way to track who it was. And then we'll select 997 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,800 a couple of the winners from all those who enter 998 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,880 and get you your guide. 999 00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this dig in Dynasty Day 1000 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,199 Carolina Hurricanes. Addition, what do we got going on over here? 1001 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: Victor? 1002 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,519 Speaker 2: People always love the drafts that the Canes make, and 1003 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:56,280 I believe you've got them ranked as your number three 1004 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,960 system in the National Hockey League. My goodness, that's pretty good. 1005 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,039 And it starts with their no brainer. 1006 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: Who's that? 1007 00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:07,119 Speaker 3: Yeah no brainer is Nikita Artemanov, twenty twenty four, fiftieth 1008 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,360 overall pick. They find such value in these drafts five 1009 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,800 to eleven, one hundred ninety two pounds. He has been 1010 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,440 over in the in Russia for the last two seasons 1011 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,480 as a teenager. He was eighteen this first season, nineteen 1012 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,800 this season, and he had twenty three points in fifty 1013 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,559 four games for Torpedo last season and thirty nine points 1014 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,960 in sixty three games this season. Pretty awesome stuff in 1015 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,239 the playoffs. After they got eliminated, he went down to 1016 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,920 the VHL playoffs and was pretty great for them, playing 1017 00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,639 is clicking, almost had a half point per game, so 1018 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:42,159 that's nice that he was able to get a little 1019 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,559 bit more playing time and experience in the playoffs. Pretty 1020 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:48,119 great stuff. Looking at his FHL player cards, seven point 1021 00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:49,880 seven zero is what I have him at. He's not 1022 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,599 the biggest volume shooter, just seventy percentile, but again, he 1023 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:54,800 is playing. He's a teenager playing in a men's league, 1024 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,679 so you know, he's probably deferring a little bit on 1025 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,719 the shots. His hits and blocks are a little bit 1026 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,039 below average, and overall his bash should be a little 1027 00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:05,119 bit subpar. But he does take a fair amount of 1028 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,320 penalties if you like that sort of thing, and his 1029 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,800 play driving numbers for the KHL are pretty good. But 1030 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,320 let's find out a little bit about our tomorrow from 1031 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,760 our FHL scout Jesse. 1032 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 2: Tony has this to say. Nikita is a very good skater, 1033 00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:23,639 good edges, but he needs to work on explosiveness and speed. 1034 00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:27,199 Good passer, puck handler, almost too willing to pass off 1035 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:29,440 to a teammate, although being such a young player in 1036 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,599 the KHL it's not surprising and Tony likes that his 1037 00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:37,239 coach is the professor. This is probably the weakest part 1038 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,679 of his game, that is shooting is Tony's not sure 1039 00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:43,079 if it's just being a young player in the KHL 1040 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480 and not enough confidence, and he's going to need to 1041 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:49,360 work on it. Hockey IQ good vision, good IQ, able 1042 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,719 to find open teammates and make creative plays to get 1043 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,599 them the puck. There is some panic in the higher 1044 00:48:54,679 --> 00:49:00,159 KHL competition. However, for checking, Nikita does four check. There's 1045 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,559 a good work ethic in both zones, hounding the puck, 1046 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,400 works hard to get the puck into the defensive zone. 1047 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,440 Hopefully continues this. It should fit well with the Hurricane style. 1048 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,960 So the best asset, Tony says, it's the work ethic 1049 00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:17,280 two way player. Biggest concern the shooting the lack of 1050 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,159 explosive skating are the two areas Tony worries about the most. 1051 00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:25,039 The top tier outcome Tier two, top six powerplay and 1052 00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:28,119 PK time. That's because of his work ethic, ability to 1053 00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,480 pass the puck and willingness to play both ends of 1054 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,000 the ice. The meeting out comes more of a Tier 1055 00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:36,079 three player, bottom six a little bit of PK time, 1056 00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:39,480 and that's because his work ethic will keep him in 1057 00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,719 that mix. But the offensive side of the game may 1058 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,880 not develop. In the NHL stylistic comparable, Tony's going with 1059 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,199 Chris Draper, possibly with higher offensive upside, and Mason Black. 1060 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,119 The NHL ranking has this to say, Nikita Artamanov versus 1061 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,280 Riley height of the Minnesota Wild, Artamanov is the big 1062 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,679 winner six st four to thirty six Victor. Is that 1063 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,639 how you see it? Yeah? 1064 00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,159 Speaker 3: I do Artamanov more. I like him quite a bit 1065 00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:13,800 more he's been playing professionally in Russia and playing against men, 1066 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480 I mean, bigger, stronger, faster competition, one of the best 1067 00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:20,000 leagues in the world. So I definitely lean Artamanoff here, 1068 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,679 and I think that I would much rather have him 1069 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:24,320 on my team. Of course, I'd like that both of 1070 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,840 these guys, but if I had to pick, I would 1071 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,320 take Artamanov. His p and achially is also approaching eighty, 1072 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,480 whereas Heights is falling back down too closer to sixty. 1073 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,880 So there's that, and looking at the hockey prospect me 1074 00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:39,559 within two Artamonovs has gone up to sixty eight percent 1075 00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:41,519 chance of being a star at heights has fallen down 1076 00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:44,599 to twenty eight, so there's a little bit of support 1077 00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:47,159 there as well. He also six point four to five 1078 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,840 is what I have him as in the in my 1079 00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:54,880 puckstud list at Fantasy Hockey Life. And also the bash 1080 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,480 is a little bit average as well. Doesn't shoot a lot, 1081 00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:00,360 doesn't hit or block. This is Riley height, so also 1082 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,159 a little bit subpar in terms of the bash. Looking 1083 00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:06,280 at some other comps for our Tamanov, there's some interesting 1084 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,559 ones here. Nick Bastrom is one that's probably not super realistic. 1085 00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:12,960 Kent Johnson is another one. I think that he could 1086 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:16,360 end up being like that. So we await the massive 1087 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,599 outcome or massive breakout from artaman Off and I think 1088 00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,840 you can get there. But check this out, Jesse, the 1089 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,440 notoriously pessimistic Jay Fresh has Nikita Artamanov at ninety four 1090 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,039 percent chance of being a star and one hundred percent 1091 00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:33,119 chance of being an NHL or that. If I don't 1092 00:51:33,159 --> 00:51:36,599 know what confidence is, find someone that loves you as 1093 00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:40,280 much as Jay Fresh loves his artamanof Jesse, I. 1094 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 2: Love it, I love it, Victor. All right, then let's 1095 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,719 go on to the need to know prospect. 1096 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to know is Bradley Nadeaux. And he 1097 00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:54,159 was a twenty twenty three first rounder, thirtieth overall, five 1098 00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:58,559 eleven hundred and seventy two pounds. He finished college last 1099 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,760 season and got an couple, got into an NHL game, 1100 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,159 and this season had a couple but mostly was in 1101 00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:07,360 the AHL and fifty eight points in sixty four games. 1102 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,880 Pretty awesome stuff for a guy who played mostly as 1103 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,280 a teenager in the AHL. Thirty two goals was a 1104 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,480 part of that. That's really awesome stuff. He also was 1105 00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:21,920 on that U twenty team for Canada did have two goals, 1106 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,440 including an absolute beauty. He did as much as he could. 1107 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,719 I think he was even the leader scorer for that team, 1108 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,000 which wasn't saying a whole lot, but he actually did 1109 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:34,639 have some really nice attempts there. Looking at the Fantasy 1110 00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:37,400 Hockey Life Player card, I have him as a seven 1111 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,400 point eight, meaning not super confident that he can get 1112 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,079 up to a seven, but I do think he has 1113 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,119 that potential, which is pretty nice. Not a lot of 1114 00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:49,280 guys have that in my model. And then the shots, 1115 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,199 I have him at eightieth percentile, hits at sixtieth, and 1116 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,360 blocks at twentieth. Overall, Bradley Nando should be slightly above 1117 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,639 average in terms of his bash, but let's see what 1118 00:52:57,639 --> 00:52:59,119 else he's slightly above average at. 1119 00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 2: Jesse Tony speaks on Bradley Nade and here's what he's 1120 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,519 got to say. For the skating, very good, fast, almost 1121 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:12,480 always in motion, passing and handling. That's a positive. He's 1122 00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:14,519 a passer, able to handle the puck enough to get 1123 00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:17,760 his shot off, shooting excellent shot. The one timer is 1124 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,159 just elite. Bradley has very good hockey IQ and vision 1125 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,800 according to Tony, and he didn't see any panic at 1126 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,119 either level he viewed. Didn't see a lot of for checking. 1127 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,079 Bradley does play some defense, but probably not his strong suit. 1128 00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:34,920 But the best asset, Tony says is the vision that 1129 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,400 he creates seam passes to get the puck up the ice. 1130 00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:41,440 As mentioned before, he has an elite level one timer 1131 00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,480 and the biggest concern needs to get a little more 1132 00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:47,679 physical and pick up his defense. So the top tier 1133 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,079 outcome Tier one, top six winger, powerplay specialist. That's because 1134 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,239 of the vision and the elite level shot. The median 1135 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,639 outcome Tier three, bottom six with spotty power play time. 1136 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,199 That's if the physical aspect does not improve and the 1137 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,400 lack of defense continues. Stylistic comparable a more mobile Brett 1138 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,079 Hull type, and the final thoughts in today's NHL, Tony 1139 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,360 thinks Bradley can make a career. Hopefully he does not 1140 00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:17,719 become the next team of Polkinan. He could really help 1141 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,960 out the Canes offense well. Bradley Nadau in the NHL 1142 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,639 Rankking Pole goes up against Maverick Bork of the Dallas 1143 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,559 Stars and a Doe in the win fifty five to 1144 00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:36,079 forty five percent over the young mister Bork Victor. Is 1145 00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,239 that an accurate assessment of the relative standing of these 1146 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:39,880 two gentlemen. 1147 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I like Bork a lot. He 1148 00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:45,239 seems like he's going to be settling in to be 1149 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,239 a third liner with Dallas, and what he did this 1150 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,519 year was fine. He looks like an NHLer, but he 1151 00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:51,440 also looks more as like a depth guy. I'm not 1152 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,000 sure he's going to push his way all the way 1153 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,800 to the top of the lineup. There's really not any 1154 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960 room I wouldn't. I don't think unless you're Why Johnson 1155 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,599 type and you're going to force your way, and we've 1156 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,039 already Johnson do that, and I think if Bork was 1157 00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,119 going to do that, he would have shown more already. 1158 00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,960 So I'm going to take Nadou. He hasn't been at 1159 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,920 that level yet, but every step of the way he's 1160 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,039 been killing it and he really provides that finishing that 1161 00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:17,079 Carolina so desperately needs. So I definitely would prefer him. 1162 00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,280 I think it's a better organizational fit. I think he 1163 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,360 had some more unique skill set that he brings, and 1164 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,440 I think that overall he's. 1165 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,519 Speaker 1: A better asset. 1166 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,559 Speaker 3: His pnhle is also way higher. Eighty three is where 1167 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:32,000 he's at Bork this season fell down to thirty seven, 1168 00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:35,840 so that's not as exciting. Looking at the hockey prospect 1169 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,199 between the two, Nadeau has forty one percent chance of 1170 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,400 being a star to Bork's fifteen, and I have Bork 1171 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,039 at a seven point one two, so I still have 1172 00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:44,800 some faith that he can get up to that, but 1173 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,360 the low percentage shows that it's a little bit pessimistic there. 1174 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,920 Looking at some of the other comps for Bradley Nadeau, 1175 00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:57,079 there's some interesting ones like Alex Tuck I think is 1176 00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:58,880 one that maybe he looks a little bit alike. If 1177 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,960 you want to be more pessimistic, maybe he could be 1178 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,559 more like a Nick Bukstad or Marco Sturm, But I 1179 00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:06,599 think he has the upside to be more of Alex 1180 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:09,639 Tuck type, but with more goals, so that would be great. 1181 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,239 And looking at the J Fresh card eleven percent chance 1182 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,440 of being a star and seventy nine percent chance of 1183 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,360 being an NHL aer, Bradley nado certainly know Nikit Artamanov 1184 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,719 in J Fresh's eyes. 1185 00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,679 Speaker 2: And who is to keep your eye on prospect. 1186 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 3: That would be Justin Priye twenty twenty four fifth round pick, 1187 00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:30,840 little guy five eight, one hundred and eighty five pounds, 1188 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,199 and that's really the big knock against him. He would 1189 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,880 have gone a lot earlier than the fifth round to 1190 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,440 Carolina had he been a little bit taller, but he's 1191 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,719 still pretty short. He's been with Bea Coomo Drakar and 1192 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,039 the queue for the last two seasons. He was eight, 1193 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,239 he had eighty points in sixty eight games. Last season 1194 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,039 when he was drafted, he bumped that up to eighty 1195 00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:53,639 points in fifty eight games. Pretty awesome stuff for him. 1196 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,719 He's going to main next year of the NCAA. I 1197 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,719 think that's going to really help his development and we'll 1198 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,280 see how he can do taking another step in development. 1199 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,400 I like him, and I think that he has an 1200 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,079 opportunity to develop a more well rounded game to break through, 1201 00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:10,880 but I think I still think it's a little bit unlikely. 1202 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,079 That's why I have him as a five point thirty 1203 00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:17,960 six in my ranks, because I have questions of whether 1204 00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,199 he can translate all that. So the thirty six percent 1205 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,000 chance of being a five is where I have him. 1206 00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:28,960 Looking at his bash, he's one hundred percentile for shot, 1207 00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:31,800 sixtieth for both hits and blocks, So overall his bash 1208 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,960 should be pretty good. So you like to hear that. 1209 00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:36,400 Let's hear what else we like to hear about Justin 1210 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,280 pie From r FHL scout. 1211 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 2: Tony says this on Justin Poirier, skating is good but 1212 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,559 needs some work, especially on the edges, passing and handling. 1213 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,599 Tony likes him especially when in the offensive zone. The 1214 00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:55,719 shooting an elite snapshot and risk shot, especially down on 1215 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,079 the facehoff dot down toward the goal. Justin lacks a 1216 00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,079 little vision as far as his Hockey IQ, but anticipation 1217 00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:05,119 and poised with the puck is excellent. Ford checking. Justin 1218 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,599 likes to fore check, to get the puck back and shoot. 1219 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,039 The defense seems to be ford checking in the offensive zone. 1220 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:20,800 That's how Justin plays his defense. But Pourier's best asset 1221 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,880 is that shot. His tenacity is a close second. The 1222 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,800 biggest concern lack of focus other than when he has 1223 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,840 the puck. The top tier outcome Tier two middle six 1224 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,199 forward with power play time. That's because his shot first 1225 00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:36,199 and foremost, and for his willingness to for check and 1226 00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,480 get the puck back to shoot again. The median outcome 1227 00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:43,440 Tier three, bottom six limited special teams. That's because he's 1228 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,119 smallish well, not a lot of bash going on there, 1229 00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:49,599 lack of focus when playing without the puck, the comparable 1230 00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:54,039 being a less focused Cole Cawfield. In the final outcome, 1231 00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:57,159 Justin could be a special player if played in the 1232 00:58:57,239 --> 00:59:00,760 right role and works on becoming a better team passing 1233 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,440 more than he does now. And the NHL ranking Mason 1234 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,159 Black has this to say, Justin pourier versus Idar Sunyev 1235 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,760 and the pourier on the winning end of this fifty 1236 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,159 nine point five percent to forty point five for Sugnie 1237 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,840 of Victor. Is that how this happens? 1238 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,079 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I like Sunyev better actually so. 1239 00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:26,840 For one, he's six to two hundred pounds and doesn't 1240 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,079 have those size concerns. He also has been killing it 1241 00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:33,119 at the NCAA level for two seasons now after coming 1242 00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:37,400 from the BHL, and that's a much tougher league. I 1243 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,599 think that I'm gonna go with a Sunyev. I think 1244 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:42,320 he has a much better chance of being a consistent 1245 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,239 NHL er than does Poarier, and I shows in my 1246 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,000 ranks I have him had a six point four to four, 1247 00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:50,199 so I have the upside higher and I have the 1248 00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:54,280 probability higher for Sunyev, so give me Adr Soniyev. The 1249 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,760 P and H league between these two is somewhat similar. 1250 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,360 Puaries is a little bit higher, but Sounyev's is more 1251 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,280 of a direct upward trajectory, so I like to see 1252 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,800 that trend. And the hockey prospect in between the two 1253 01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:10,239 is down to six percent and sunyea one percent. But 1254 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,599 a big part of that is that his draft minus 1255 01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:14,480 one season was a little bit low, so that and 1256 01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:16,960 then his draft season was in the BCHL, So he's 1257 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,159 being punished for what happened two and three seasons ago 1258 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,559 as opposed to focusing on what's happening now. And I 1259 01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:25,639 think that there's a lot of a lot of lot 1260 01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:27,960 to be happy about with Sunyev in terms of what's 1261 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,360 happening now. His bash also figures to be well above average, 1262 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,719 with both the shots and hits above average and his 1263 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,679 blocks being just averaged, So definitely some excitement there. Looking 1264 01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:42,400 at some of the comps for Poia, Brendan Gallagher is 1265 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,639 of course a small guy that everyone wants to comp to. 1266 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,880 He was more of an average producer. His PNHL was 1267 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,880 a little bit higher at the in the draft plus 1268 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,119 one season, but similar in the draft season. Maybe an 1269 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:54,920 outcome like that is possible, but I think it's a 1270 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,199 little less likely. Looking at the j freshcard for Poia, 1271 01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:01,119 five percent chance of being a star nineteen percent chance 1272 01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:04,119 of being an NHL are so a little bit more pessimistic. 1273 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,719 That's it for the Carolina Hurricanes dig. 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