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Speaker 1: we don't commit insurrections. Somebody tell Mike Johnston that the
Speaker 1: mayor of Denver. Okay, this is an unbelievable story. If
Speaker 1: you haven't heard each hat extraordinarily dangerous. But let's the
Speaker 1: celebration continue, right, and it does with Pam Bondy now
Speaker 1: nominated for US Attorney General. Ryan very happy back there
Speaker 1: because he predicted it and.
Speaker 2: Appears to be a very good pick.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 1: You know she's going to be confirmed and confirmed quickly, right,
Speaker 1: So after Matt Gates with Drew she again, do you think.
Speaker 4: This might have been kind of the plan all along?
Speaker 4: Or Trump had this in mind? Meaning compared to Matt Gates,
Speaker 4: who you and I agree and Andy McCarthy said, is
Speaker 4: qualifications were scant. Pam Bondi has been the Attorney general
Speaker 4: of the state of Florida. She's a slam dunk.
Speaker 2: It is a slam dunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, personally, No, I don't think the master plan was
Speaker 1: to as Fetterman said, you know, just just troll the
Speaker 1: left with with Gates. I don't think that was a plan.
Speaker 1: I think President Trump truly wanted Gates. But Trump, being
Speaker 1: a smart guy, I think he had Pam Bondi in
Speaker 1: the back of his mind and maybe in the front
Speaker 1: of his mind for a long time now.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that nominee.
Speaker 1: Is going to sail through very very quickly, and the
Speaker 1: Left may very well regret, you know, just forcing Trump
Speaker 1: to appoint Pam Bondi because she does have that experience,
Speaker 1: and I think she's going to be very very effective,
Speaker 1: as effective as anybody can be in executing President Trump's
Speaker 1: vision for the Department of Justice. So and this may
Speaker 1: be one of the first issues on her desk here.
Speaker 1: You know Mike Johnston. You know, first of all, has
Speaker 1: Mike Johnston already committed a crime? I don't believe so.
Speaker 1: But again, that's not my area of law. I do
Speaker 1: catastrophic injury work, I don't do criminal work, and I'm
Speaker 1: certainly not an expert in rebellion or insurrection eighteen USC.
Speaker 1: Twenty three eighty three. Are there other laws that Johnston
Speaker 1: may have already violated maybe, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has violated the law at this point.
Speaker 1: I think if he does what he has promised to do,
Speaker 1: he will clearly be engaging in insurrection and will be
Speaker 1: guilty of it, and the federal government willly dect very
Speaker 1: quickly to apprehend him and fully enforce the law as
Speaker 1: they should. Because let me start with the Kyle Clark tweet.
Speaker 1: Here quite the statement from Denver Mayor Mike Johnston that
Speaker 1: Denver police and citizens would physically block a mass deportation
Speaker 1: by federal forces. So you have the mayor of Denver
Speaker 1: promising that he will order the Denver police to physically
Speaker 1: block federal forces as they attempt to carry out federal law.
Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, that is, by the way, kind of the
Speaker 1: text book definition of insurrection. And you think about the
Speaker 1: cruel irony that are the same democrats in Colorado, right,
Speaker 1: so devoted to democracy they were going to make sure
Speaker 1: the people of Colorado didn't even have the option of
Speaker 1: voting for the guy who won the presidency. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how committed to democracy they are. But they falsely label
Speaker 1: Trump an insurrectionist while now promising promising a literal insurrection,
Speaker 1: because when you go to eighteen USC. Twenty three eighty three,
Speaker 1: and again, I don't claim to be an expert in this.
Speaker 1: I'm just a lawyer who reads statutes. But what this
Speaker 1: statute says is whoever incits, sets on foot, assists, or
Speaker 1: engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of
Speaker 1: the United States or the laws thereof, or gives ad
Speaker 1: or comfort there too shall be fined not or in
Speaker 1: prison not more than ten years or both. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have the fine amount in the body. But in terms
Speaker 1: of how you define insurrection, there's no actual definition in
Speaker 1: the statute. What courts have interpreted it to include, though,
Speaker 1: is acts intended to impede the enforcement of federal laws.
Speaker 1: That's what we call on all fours in the legal business.
Speaker 1: So Mike Johnston is now publicly promised to commit an
Speaker 1: active insurrection, and then on top of that, you know,
Speaker 1: he goes further and says, quote more than us having
Speaker 1: dpds stationed at the county line to keep them out,
Speaker 1: you would have fifty thousand Denver rights there. Johnston said,
Speaker 1: it's like the Tieneman Square moment with the Roses and
Speaker 1: the gun right. So in addition to promising to engage
Speaker 1: in insurrection, he is now encouraging tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: Denver rights to come out and take on federal law enforcement.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most insane things I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: But you got to understand, and I may be a
Speaker 1: little more sensitive to it as a son of a
Speaker 1: thirty year cop, but I don't think I am. I
Speaker 1: think you feel the same way. Mike Johnston is a
Speaker 1: smart guy who does stupid things. He must understand that.
Speaker 1: By coming out and saying these words, promising to send
Speaker 1: Denver police out to take on federal law enforcement, calling
Speaker 1: on tens of thousands of Colorado's to take to the
Speaker 1: streets to stop federal law enforcement, comparing it to the
Speaker 1: nobility of Tieneman Square to protect these criminal illegals. He's
Speaker 1: putting an even bigger target on the backs of federal
Speaker 1: law enforcement all across Colorado. There are so many haters.
Speaker 1: The left has ginned up so much at I copy had,
Speaker 1: and you know there are nut jobs out there Colorado,
Speaker 1: a disproportionate number of nutjobs because of the far left
Speaker 1: politics mixed with the legal drugs and all that garbage.
Speaker 1: You think Johnston cares about the additional danger he has
Speaker 1: just created. This is danger creation that he has just
Speaker 1: create it for our federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 2: He doesn't care about that.
Speaker 1: All he cares about is getting the attention of the
Speaker 1: crazy far left that runs the National Democratic Party and
Speaker 1: controls who gets the big money and who wins primaries.
Speaker 1: Rerex Ann, you're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 2: Welcome, good guy.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. Government's main purpose, one of their
Speaker 5: main purposes is to protect the citizen degree of the
Speaker 5: country and the world. We have a leftist government that
Speaker 5: has done nothing to protect the people in this country,
Speaker 5: and they continue. Denver has devolved into a sesspool. We've
Speaker 5: seen it. Our son lives through it. My son in
Speaker 5: law's about ready to go to the sut team inauguration
Speaker 5: to protect ourment government. And they're shitting themselves in the
Speaker 5: foot and they're shooting us in the foot. Women, children.
Speaker 5: No one's safe in this country any longer. Only the illegals.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the call.
Speaker 1: Recks and I think when you have the mayor of
Speaker 1: Denver promising an insurrection against the enforcement of federal law,
Speaker 1: and think about the profound lack of respect for law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Think about that, these are our best, and our brightest
Speaker 1: and our bravest Denver PD other law enforcement. To disrespect
Speaker 1: them by saying he's going to send them out to
Speaker 1: fight federal law enforcement, he must have such a dim
Speaker 1: view of Denver PD. He must view them as idiots.
Speaker 1: He must view them as as just these little peons
Speaker 1: and tools that he can use for his own political purposes.
Speaker 1: To even suggest he certainly doesn't have respect for them,
Speaker 1: I mean, to suggest that he would order our law
Speaker 1: enforcement to go out and fight our federal law enforcement,
Speaker 1: go out and physically block them from doing their duty,
Speaker 1: shows a profound disrespect for Denver PD. Let's go up
Speaker 1: to Mick and Littleton, you're on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 1: Also shows he doesn't of a darn about the people
Speaker 1: at Denver. How's this supposed to help the people at Denver?
Speaker 1: Who relies so much on federal grants, et cetera. To
Speaker 1: go out and publicly taunt Donald Trump, how does that
Speaker 1: help the people at Never It helps Mike Johnston, you know,
Speaker 1: to get some attention from the big money on the
Speaker 1: far left and his race for governor. How does that
Speaker 1: help the people at Denver Mack.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Hey, Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Ticked off?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's hard. You get out of work
Speaker 6: and you come home and you listen to the news,
Speaker 6: and did you shake your head anymore? You know. The
Speaker 6: way I look at this is, you know, four years ago,
Speaker 6: when the Democrats took power, they swung that gate wide
Speaker 6: open because whoever's driving their agenda, that's what they wanted.
Speaker 6: Now they want to protect their agenda. They want to
Speaker 6: do two things. Their goal here is protect their agenda
Speaker 6: and created much chaos for Donald Trump's presidency.
Speaker 3: It's possible.
Speaker 6: And of course Mike Johnson, you know, he wants to
Speaker 6: carry the torch. And you know, whoever whoever carries the
Speaker 6: torch and wins in the Democratic Party, they're the ones
Speaker 6: who obviously get promoted in this chaos. So of course
Speaker 6: Mike Johnson, he is hoping to advance his agenda, which
Speaker 6: advances whoever's driving the agenda for the Democratic Party. And
Speaker 6: it's uh, it's just amazing, amazing. And you were speaking
Speaker 6: earlier how they blatantly ignore the laws. They redefine the
Speaker 6: laws to him. Yeah, it doesn't apply to them, you know,
Speaker 6: for a.
Speaker 2: Little guy like me.
Speaker 6: Foh, it's so frustrated to sit back and watch. You know,
Speaker 6: I was watching Polus on the news the other day
Speaker 6: and he was saying, how they're they're, they're And you
Speaker 6: know what Poust needs to realize is in Colorado if
Speaker 6: you look at the numbers. Yeah, yeah, well Trump may
Speaker 6: not have won Colorado, but a lot of people here
Speaker 6: in Colorado sure will overrul.
Speaker 1: But that is so true, Mick, And I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: we're up against the heart break here, but you're right,
Speaker 1: I mean about forty percent of the people. But what
Speaker 1: is clear right here, it's an extraordinary moment if you
Speaker 1: just joined us, and extraordinarily dangerous Mayor Johnston, you know,
Speaker 1: has come out according to these statements he made in
Speaker 1: the press, and in my constitutionally protected view, it appears
Speaker 1: to me he's just promising an insurrection. Send Denver police
Speaker 1: out to take on federal law enforcement when they come
Speaker 1: to lawfully execute the laws of the United States and immigration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: extraordinarily dangerous. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least now.
Speaker 1: We know what a real insurrectionist looks like, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: we have all this, all this false allegation against Trump
Speaker 1: he's an insurrectionistist, or that the Democratic Party in Colorado,
Speaker 1: the laugh tries to throw Trump off the ballot so
Speaker 1: that people don't even have the option of voting for him,
Speaker 1: and they say he's an insurrectionist. And then there's a
Speaker 1: lot of talk in that case about, oh, what's the
Speaker 1: definition of an insurrectionist because under Colorado statue pardon me,
Speaker 1: Federal Statute eighteen Usc. Twenty three eighty three, rebellion or insurrection,
Speaker 1: the term insurrection is not defined. Now a body of
Speaker 1: law has grown up around that statute, which which defines
Speaker 1: insurrection in part is x intended to impede the enforcement.
Speaker 2: Of federal law.
Speaker 1: Well, so you get all these false and phony insurrection
Speaker 1: claims against Trump to the extent of trying to remove
Speaker 1: him from the Colorado ballot. But then you get Mike
Speaker 1: Johnston who just makes it easy, doesn't he. Now, Listen,
Speaker 1: my area of law is not insurrection law. I represent
Speaker 1: victims in catastrophic injury cases. But it seems to me
Speaker 1: that when you've got a mayor are out there promising
Speaker 1: to use the Denver Police Department to physically block federal
Speaker 1: agents from enforcing federal immigration law. That seems to me
Speaker 1: to be the textbook definition of insurrection and an incredible story.
Speaker 1: Here's Kyle Clark's tweet on it. Quite the statement from
Speaker 1: Denver Mayor Mike Johnston that Denver police and citizens would
Speaker 1: physically block a mass deportation by federal forces, and then
Speaker 1: quoting Johnston as saying, to the Denver right, and I
Speaker 1: have the full piece in front of me. The mayor
Speaker 1: also takes heart that the people of Denver, not just
Speaker 1: the administration, would likely resist a mass deportation effort from
Speaker 1: federal forces. Quote more than us having dpds stationed at
Speaker 1: the county line to keep them out, you would have
Speaker 1: fifty thousand Denver rights there. Johnston said, it's like the
Speaker 1: Tienemann Square moment with the Roses and the gun right,
Speaker 1: and this is a texture, says, it's the mayor suggesting
Speaker 1: that he's assembled a private militia of tens of thousands. Well,
Speaker 1: when he's saying, first we're going to use DPD to
Speaker 1: stop the federal forces at the county line to keep
Speaker 1: them out, and then he says, you would have fifty
Speaker 1: thousand Denver rights there that's just a statement that you
Speaker 1: will have fifty thousand Denver rights there. He's obviously encouraging that.
Speaker 1: He's obviously encouraging tens of thousands of Denver rights to
Speaker 1: come out and physically prevent federal law enforcement from enforcing
Speaker 1: the law. He's not claiming that the law wouldn't permit
Speaker 1: the federal forces to do that. He's just saying, we're
Speaker 1: going to use Denver police and tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: Denver rights to stop the federal government. How's that anything
Speaker 1: less than an insurrection?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And where's Polus on this right?
Speaker 1: I mean, they were all so quick to, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 1: Trump insurrection.
Speaker 2: Where are they on Johnston?
Speaker 1: Knowing that right now, immediately, as of today, he has
Speaker 1: put federal law enforcement in Colorado. And there are many
Speaker 1: great men and women serving as US Marshals, border patrol, ice,
Speaker 1: rather etc. Here in Colorado and others. He's put them
Speaker 1: all in danger. He's there are a lot of whack
Speaker 1: jobs out there, a lot of cop haters, a lot
Speaker 1: of that copp he Hayd comes from the left fomenting
Speaker 1: copp haid and he's just said, no, they're so bad,
Speaker 1: They're so bad We're going to use Denver police to
Speaker 1: oppose them and calling on tens of thousands of Denver
Speaker 1: rights to physically stop them.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Dan, My question is what happens to any police officer
Speaker 1: who follows Johnson's illegal orders? I think, and again, this
Speaker 1: is in my area of laws, so take this as
Speaker 1: as more of a layman's reaction to this. I think
Speaker 1: any police officer who followed that illegal order and physically
Speaker 1: prevented federal law enforcement from executing federal law, I think
Speaker 1: those police officers would be facing federal charges as well.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm very confident. They're very very confident that
Speaker 1: you would not see Denver police follow this illegal order.
Speaker 1: There are best, there are bravest, and Johnston is showing
Speaker 1: such disrespect to them by suggesting that he could use
Speaker 1: them to go out and stop the law from being enforced.
Speaker 1: How little respect must you have for Denver police to
Speaker 1: brag that you're going to use them this way? Shows
Speaker 1: no respect for the fact that these are men and
Speaker 1: women who've devoted their professional careers to putting their life
Speaker 1: on the line to protect the public. Kind Of at
Speaker 1: the polar opposite end of the spectrum from Johnston, when
Speaker 1: it comes to commitment to the public. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just showing complete and utter disrespect for them. Carol and Denver,
Speaker 1: you're on the Dan kaplish'll welcome.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Carol, Hi there, Dan. Hey.
Speaker 8: I'm so completely disgusted. I cannot believe he has got
Speaker 8: the utter gall to do this. Here's two thoughts. Wouldn't
Speaker 8: it be hilarious It's a Denver police said, oh no,
Speaker 8: you don't. And we're not about to help you out
Speaker 8: with this. We're not going to participate. It's not like
Speaker 8: it's not like the left has had their backs. And
Speaker 8: number two, the point I'd like to make is, don't
Speaker 8: you think this is kind of a dog whistle to
Speaker 8: other to other Red states to do the same thing
Speaker 8: as he just kind of stepping up like the hero
Speaker 8: or the illegal immigrants, and he's just kind of like,
Speaker 8: let's just do this. I'll start it. I'll step out first.
Speaker 8: Let's you guys kind of join me. How dare he
Speaker 8: start a civil war? How dare he put first responders
Speaker 8: and police officers and other citizens in the caught in
Speaker 8: the cross fire in danger? This little punk needs to
Speaker 8: be arrested.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not calling him upon can. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he can be arrested right now. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that he's advocating an insurrection. In my constitutionally protected opinion,
Speaker 1: if he engages in this behavior, I believe that he
Speaker 1: will be committing an insurrection and will be subject to
Speaker 1: federal arrest.
Speaker 2: But Carol just made a brilliant point that that's exactly
Speaker 2: what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He is encouraging now other mayors in other cities to
Speaker 1: do the same thing, to do the same thing, to
Speaker 1: promise an insurrection. And I believe she's right that he's
Speaker 1: encouraging them. And think about it, Every mayor, every governor
Speaker 1: who does this right now is immediately putting their federal
Speaker 1: agents in their state in more danger by labeling them
Speaker 1: the enemy and by implicitly green light in physical resistance
Speaker 1: to them. How can you interpret it any other way?
Speaker 1: And when we come back from this break, there's more
Speaker 1: in this story. Sheriff Friems will join us. But Johnston
Speaker 1: in this Denveright piece actually refers to He talks about
Speaker 1: some of the federal forces, some of the National Guard
Speaker 1: Trump may bring to Colorado to execute this as invaders,
Speaker 1: as invaders invading the state of Colorado Sheriff frames next
Speaker 1: here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 7: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: You've never seen anything like this, the Democrat mayor of
Speaker 1: Denver promising to use Denver police to physically stop federal
Speaker 1: agents from carrying out deportations in Colorado.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not my area of law. I do
Speaker 2: catastrophic injury work.
Speaker 1: But I got to tell you, it sure looks like
Speaker 1: insurrection to me, and it gets worse from there.
Speaker 2: So we'll get back to that.
Speaker 1: Wanted to get the reaction of great lawman in Colorado,
Speaker 1: served for so many years, so well in beautiful worldco
Speaker 1: Many Colorado Sheriff, Steve Raims, Sheriff, Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 3: Hey Dan, thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 1: Well, anxious to get your take on this. I've never
Speaker 1: heard of anything like this.
Speaker 3: Well, it's lunacy in my mind. You know, there's a
Speaker 3: reason I don't go to Denver and I don't live
Speaker 3: in Denver. I love the Free County as well, but
Speaker 3: apparently if you live in Denver, part of the process
Speaker 3: is that you've got to be willing to serve on
Speaker 3: the mayor's army against the federal government. I guess I've
Speaker 3: never heard of anything this ridiculous, and I hope it's
Speaker 3: show voting and grandstanding, but the message that he's sending
Speaker 3: is it's wholly dangerous in my mind. And to talk
Speaker 3: about how you can wield the power of the Denver
Speaker 3: Police Department to your own bidding, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 3: such an abuse of power. I just can't believe you
Speaker 3: put it out there. It's insanity.
Speaker 1: Well, and Sheriff, I've never served, you have, my dad did,
Speaker 1: And to me, it seems such an insult to the
Speaker 1: men and women who have served and put their lives
Speaker 1: on the line, because to suggest that they could be
Speaker 1: used as these little, mindless pawns to go out and
Speaker 1: fight their federal law enforcement brothers and sisters. Well, not
Speaker 1: even trying to argue Justin isn't even trying to argue
Speaker 1: that that federal law doesn't preempt here that the law
Speaker 1: enforcement officers would be acting improperly and carrying out the deportations.
Speaker 1: He just says, we're going to use force to stop it.
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's got a huge problem in his geta,
Speaker 3: because I know a bunch of Denver PD officers and
Speaker 3: their fine men and women. They believe in the oath
Speaker 3: that they serve, and I think if given an order
Speaker 3: such as that, he'd have a hard time getting them
Speaker 3: to actually obey. There might be a few that would
Speaker 3: go along, but I think for the most part, the
Speaker 3: men and women of Denver, of the Denver Police Department
Speaker 3: know what they're there to do, and it's not to
Speaker 3: quote unquote protect the legal immigrants from federal ice officers.
Speaker 3: That is nowhere in their oaths that they when they're
Speaker 3: sworn into their positions, and most officers take that oath
Speaker 3: very serious. I mean, they protect and serve their community,
Speaker 3: and that is not the way to protect and serve
Speaker 3: your community, especially when you're talking about, you know, putting
Speaker 3: people who aren't supposed to be there right in front
Speaker 3: of your in front of your regular citizens. It's just
Speaker 3: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously Trump said it.
Speaker 1: You know, we're starting with criminal illegals, and so Johnston
Speaker 1: would send out Denver law enforcement to fight fellow law
Speaker 1: enforcement to protect criminal illegals.
Speaker 2: It just seems like madness.
Speaker 1: And then as Sheriff Fraeme's our guests obviously, in addition
Speaker 1: to the fact that, yeah, these men and women, because
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, would not follow that
Speaker 1: illegal order. The other piece of it is what law
Speaker 1: enforcement officer is going to want to subject themselves to
Speaker 1: these federal charges, because wouldn't you just expect the Trump
Speaker 1: DOJ to immediately charge insurrection.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm certain that there are some penalties not only
Speaker 3: federally but also state by for interfering with governmental operations.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's some applicable statutes that all
Speaker 3: those guys that gals would have to take into consideration.
Speaker 3: But I think what Mayor Johnson doesn't realize too is
Speaker 3: Ice can easily file warrants for all of these legal immigrants,
Speaker 3: and a warrant forces an officer. That warrant will say
Speaker 3: you shall arrest on contact. So Ice could actually flip
Speaker 3: the script file federal warrants on all these people and
Speaker 3: everybody that Denver pet came into contact with and learned
Speaker 3: that they had a warrant, they would be obligated not
Speaker 3: only to arrest them, but to take them to jail
Speaker 3: until that warrant could be dealt with in the judicial system.
Speaker 3: So Mayor Johnson doesn't have the authority that he thinks
Speaker 3: he has, and I think those officers would still do
Speaker 3: their job. Yeah. I think they agree with most of America,
Speaker 3: and they want to deal with the legal criminal aliens
Speaker 3: are continuing to commit crime in their community. I mean
Speaker 3: they're dealing with them every day. That's probably a large
Speaker 3: part of their calls for service. There's no way they
Speaker 3: want to stand in and protect these folks. I certainly wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that in an area where the problem
Speaker 3: is much worse because they've invited it, and now you
Speaker 3: want to turn around and defend these folks that you
Speaker 3: and that you brought in. No way, no way, makes
Speaker 3: no sense.
Speaker 1: Great point, Sheriff, and hey, appreciate your time today. How
Speaker 1: can people follow you? Are you on social media?
Speaker 3: I am, I've got I'm on Facebook and a little
Speaker 3: bit of X. That place is just where people go
Speaker 3: to the real mean at each other, so typically on
Speaker 3: Facebook and it's just well kind of Sheriff Steve dreams.
Speaker 1: Well, sure do you appreciate it and all the great
Speaker 1: work you've done. Thank you, Sheriff, Thanks Dan, thanks for
Speaker 1: having we take care of that is Sheriff Steve Reames
Speaker 1: Hey five to five pour zero five A two five
Speaker 1: five the number text d A N five seven seven
Speaker 1: three nine. As we get back to our fiery phone lines,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to this Denveright story because
Speaker 1: so much of the focus, as it should be, is
Speaker 1: on Mayor Johnston's promise to use Denver PD to physically
Speaker 1: stop federal law enforcement from carrying out federal law. And
Speaker 1: then Johnston talks about his prediction that fifty thousand Denver
Speaker 1: Rights will take to the streets to physically block federal
Speaker 1: law enforcement from carrying out the law. And then he
Speaker 1: advocates that. He advocates that by comparing it to Tieneman Square.
Speaker 2: Think about that. Think about it.
Speaker 1: He's comparing our brave federal law enforcement officers carrying out
Speaker 1: federal law. Johnston doesn't even try to contend that they're
Speaker 1: acting illegally, carrying out federal law in order to protect
Speaker 1: innocent civilians from criminal illegals. He compares those great Americans
Speaker 1: to the Communist Party of China. Think about how far
Speaker 1: gone he is. Think about how insidious and hateful that is.
Speaker 1: Think about how little respect he has for law enforcement,
Speaker 1: how little respect he has for the lives of innocent
Speaker 1: people in Colorado, And clearly he doesn't care about the
Speaker 1: people of Colorado because guess what, federal government can do
Speaker 1: a lot to help or her the city with funding.
Speaker 1: And he's now openly taunting Donald Trump, which again almost
Speaker 1: guarantees that Trump will begin his mass deportation efforts here.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to let you know this other part
Speaker 1: of the Denveright story where Johnston compares National Guard troops
Speaker 1: from other states who might be utilized by Trump, deputized
Speaker 1: and utilized by Trump to carry out these deportations. That's
Speaker 1: part of the plan that's been discussed. He compares those
Speaker 1: brave men and women serving in other states to invaders.
Speaker 1: He compares them to invaders. It's just it's extremely dangerous
Speaker 1: and no, I'll go back to the phone lines now,
Speaker 1: but it just immediately increases the danger to federal law
Speaker 1: enforcement officials. So let's get back to the phone lines,
Speaker 1: and we'll start with Oh, Chief Jim is kind enough
Speaker 1: to be with us. He's now retired former chief of
Speaker 1: Denver PD and now living peacefully in Castle Rock, Colorado. Chief,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 9: Oh thank you, Dan. Before we get started, to tell
Speaker 9: me about your family, are they all well? Everybody good.
Speaker 2: Oh, thanks for asking. Everybody's great. Thank you. How about
Speaker 2: you guys, Well.
Speaker 9: It couldn't any better help me, you know, I'm I'd
Speaker 9: like to say I'm surprised at this, but I'm really not.
Speaker 9: You know, there's I don't always been since we've had
Speaker 9: a chief that wanted to protect the city without any
Speaker 9: political restraints. But it's been a long time, buddy. What
Speaker 9: it surprised you to know that as of three weeks
Speaker 9: ago and I had this very good authority from active
Speaker 9: members in order to satisfy the needs of the community.
Speaker 9: Denver police officers are the males are able to wear
Speaker 9: beards now and regardless of sex, they can color their hair.
Speaker 9: I think they sit in that they can choose from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna help.
Speaker 9: That's well, that's a boy, that's a crime stopper right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if people don't think that the police had been
Speaker 9: news and then I'll take you back to the to
Speaker 9: the throughs law enforcement throw whatever rally. It was in
Speaker 9: city center, so sure ordered the tops out and very
Speaker 9: brave Lieutenant Matt Canino said, no, no, we're not leaving.
Speaker 9: They're hurting people here. No, no, we're not doing it.
Speaker 9: And then uh, the illustrious TREEF White decided it was
Speaker 9: only proper for the NTIFA people to pour red paint
Speaker 9: over our memorial to the seventy seven altiers who lost
Speaker 9: their lives. And then when they wanted to rush the
Speaker 9: police of Lincoln and do their mischief in there, why
Speaker 9: they put handcuffs on the door so they couldn't come in.
Speaker 9: You know that that's a shame that we are generations
Speaker 9: away from people who want to serve the city and
Speaker 9: protect the city as opposed to the big salary the right,
Speaker 9: you know, all the all stars on their collars. You know,
Speaker 9: it just it breaks my heart because you know that
Speaker 9: when you cut me, I believe blue.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 9: And then your father did as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all these men and women put in their
Speaker 1: life on the line. Chiefly we've got fifteen seconds. But
Speaker 1: i'd love your take on this. If Mayor Johnston does
Speaker 1: what he's promised to do and gives what I view
Speaker 1: as a blatantly illegal order to DPD to go out
Speaker 1: and physically resist federal law enforcement officers as they execute
Speaker 1: these deportations, do you think Denver police rank and file
Speaker 1: will follow that order?
Speaker 9: Well, I never thought they'd stand with their hands in
Speaker 9: their pockets, and watch our memorial to where phone and
Speaker 9: officers we detigrated. I never thought that we pore behind
Speaker 9: locked doors in the police buildings. Dan don't know, I
Speaker 9: honestly don't know. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Well, Chief, I appreciate your frankness as always on this
Speaker 1: and I hope you join us often because unfortunately it's
Speaker 1: about to get crazy. Okay, thank you, Chief, Sure do
Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's former Chief Jim Kyle. You're kind enough
Speaker 1: to spend time with us. Back in a flash on
Speaker 1: the Dan Caplish and.
Speaker 7: Now back to the Dan Kaplish Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Good joined us, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Really stunning news out of Denver, according to the Denveright
Speaker 1: publication and a tweet from Kyle Clark, Mike Johnston, mayor
Speaker 1: of Denver, is promising to use Denver police to physically
Speaker 1: stop federal law enforcement agents from executing the large immigration
Speaker 1: sweeps the deportation of criminal illegals that Trump is promising.
Speaker 1: Seems to me not offering this is a legal opinion,
Speaker 1: but seems to me looking at the statute, that that
Speaker 1: would be just a raw insurrection and it even gets
Speaker 1: worse from there, so very dangerous Behaby, you're by the
Speaker 1: mayor further endangering federal law enforcement officers even today by
Speaker 1: implying that there's some kind of enemy that Denver police
Speaker 1: would go out and fight. Think about the added danger
Speaker 1: that puts them in. In Johnston saying tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of people would take to the street to resist, comparing
Speaker 1: it to Tan Square. Yeah, yeah, that is an extraordinarily dangerous,
Speaker 1: dangerous thing to suggest. Let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1: Talk to Scott and Lyttleton. You're on the Dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 6: Welcome, Hi Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2: I am ticked off.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That was a great insurrection song, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah yeah, yeah, well, yeah, yeah listen.
Speaker 6: I called the Chamber of Commerce and told them I
Speaker 6: heard this on a very prominent radio show. I said,
Speaker 6: I didn't hear it myself, but my leave definitely believe
Speaker 6: in the information. They said they had not heard this.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they were telling the truth, but
Speaker 6: I did tell them something that is the truth, and
Speaker 6: that I participate. I've had a booth and I am
Speaker 6: part of a booth generally almost every year for the
Speaker 6: Denver Sportsman Show, and I said the show's actually run
Speaker 6: out of someone by Seattle, and the outfitters coming down,
Speaker 6: especially from Canada to Denver, are getting sick of coming
Speaker 6: down here because they're not getting a lot of action.
Speaker 6: The show is really slowing down in Denver. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: so they're going a lot of them are going straight
Speaker 6: to Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Stet Can I ask you favorite, We're coming up on
Speaker 1: a hard break, So I apologize.
Speaker 2: Where do we bottom line this?
Speaker 6: Well, the bottom line is I told them, I said,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, I would believe their Chamber of
Speaker 6: Commerce would be very interesting in this because if they're
Speaker 6: going to have a possible insurrection here, how are they
Speaker 6: going to get people.
Speaker 3: For events?
Speaker 1: Now, that is a great point. Thank you for that,
Speaker 1: my friend. I mean, but just this madness, right, just
Speaker 1: this madness. And speaking of madness, I did want to
Speaker 1: note this. We've been talking about how reckless it is
Speaker 1: right now to have Joe Biden as president, and how
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth should have been invoked, and how now
Speaker 1: authorizing these US missiles to be shot deeper into Russia,
Speaker 1: you know, creates this added danger. Here's a note today,
Speaker 1: and this is the US government confirming that Russia today
Speaker 1: launched an experimental intermediate range ballistic missile into Ukraine. But
Speaker 1: get this, Russia called just before it was launched to
Speaker 1: advise the US that it was not nuclear tipped, because
Speaker 1: the type of missile they launched into Ukraine today is
Speaker 1: capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. So they wanted to
Speaker 1: let the US know that this was not a nuclear
Speaker 1: missile that they were launching today. But you think about
Speaker 1: the escalation and danger here, and with a commander in
Speaker 1: chief who any honest person can see, you know, does
Speaker 1: not have the cognitive capacity to be executing that role
Speaker 1: right now. But I wanted to let you know of
Speaker 1: that latest development. I want to get to some of
Speaker 1: these texts. Our texts have been blowing up as well.
Speaker 1: Dan does Mayork Johnson honestly believe that every Denver citizen
Speaker 1: is behind his idiocy or is he just so consumed
Speaker 1: by the idea that he is all powerful that he
Speaker 1: believes he.
Speaker 2: Can do something this stupid Sarah.
Speaker 1: I think that he's shown he doesn't care at all
Speaker 1: about the people of Denver, because by now now taunting
Speaker 1: Donald Trump like this, he guarantees that Denver is not
Speaker 1: going to be looked favorably upon. Right when it comes
Speaker 1: to federal grants, etc. But he's basically forcing Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: to begin these deportations here. Clearly he doesn't care. Johnston
Speaker 1: doesn't care about the people of Denver. He sure doesn't
Speaker 1: care about law enforcement, because he's just added to the
Speaker 1: ever present danger, certainly for our federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 1: And a brilliant point from a Texter here who says,
Speaker 1: and I'll summarize it, Dan, he's just added to the
Speaker 1: danger to our federal officers because trend de Aragua has
Speaker 1: his promised to be killing police officers.
Speaker 2: And when you've got the.
Speaker 1: Mayor of Denver now coming out and saying that these
Speaker 1: federal officers are so bad, these federal officers who are
Speaker 1: coming to follow federal law and carry out federal law
Speaker 1: are so bad, we're sending our Denver police out to
Speaker 1: physically stop them. Think about the added green lighting that
Speaker 1: offers to all sorts of bad actors, including these gang members. Now,
Speaker 1: it's reckless, it's irresponsible, it's dangerous, and if he carried
Speaker 1: it out, it would be insurrection. Ryan, thank you so much, Kelly,
Speaker 1: you as well. Please be back tomorrow for