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Speaker 3: Ari Tempkin, co host Big twelve Radio on the tune

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Speaker 2: What's up? Ari? Are you there? Brother? I got you? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You there?

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Speaker 2: H I got you now, loud and clear.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you joining me, all right, give us an update, man,

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what's new with the Tempkin family.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you asking man. We actually happen to spend some

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time during the New Year and Christmas around Delray Beach, Florida,

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which worked out perfectly for the Orange Bowl. Nice so

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got to go to the Orange Bowl, which was a

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lot of fun right up until the game kicked off

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and then yeah, no, it's I mean, I'm as same

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with Ron, your producer on we were your producer. I'm

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a Bears fan, grew up in Chicago, so super excited

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about the Bears getting back in the playoffs. I'm ready

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to be hurt again, Ben, I'm ready to be hurt again.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've had to You've had to stay silent for

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too long.

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Speaker 2: For so long.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how how loud were you during like the

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Jay Cutler era, Like there were some good times, right, yeah,

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I mean how long have you been silent then?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been a minute.

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Speaker 4: Historically, you know, the Bears have just they've been a franchise.

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It's both of some of the best defensive players in

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the in the history of the NFL, you know, and

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and our friend Jim McMahon not was standing here. I mean,

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Mike Singletary, Dick Bud Case, Brian or Locker, you know.

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I mean, there's just an a you know, Ron Rivera,

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just an insane amount of great defensive players. This year,

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Caleb Williams was like twenty forty yard shy of setting

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a record for the Bear Well, He's said a record

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for a single season passing for the Bears this year,

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but the Bears still have not had a four thousand

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yard passer. Some franchises have had three or four four

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thousand yard passers. The Bears have never had one. And

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Caleb almost did it this year. So, I mean, offensively,

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this is a I mean the Bears. This is the

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best context I can give you on this, Ben. The

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Bears finished top five in total offense this year for

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the first time since nineteen seventy seven. Crazy Ben Johnson

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was right higher. That's all I know.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Ben Johnson, and I know you and

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Ronald you guys can celebrate once again and not be

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so silent about your Chicago Bear. Speaking of Bears, BYU

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got Bear Bachmeyer back in the fold, our favorite bear

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here in Provo. I don't think there was any question

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that he was coming back, but the fact that the

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true freshman All American is coming back to b YU

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to lead the Cougars into twenty twenty six, that's big

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time right to be able to retain your quarterback this

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day and age, after a tremendous season to start.

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Speaker 4: Off well, and especially considering that you know, I mean,

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you know. And I've been asked Ben already by a few,

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you know, different people, like who's the favorites for next

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year in the Big Twelve? And I mean, I think

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you've got to start with the teams that finished towards

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the top of the Big Twelve at the end of

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last year, and and you know BYU obviously a part

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of that. So I think with what BYU brings back

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it's crazy to think that the decision making by Mark

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Harltan and Utah has led to some friendly fire here

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from losing j Hill. That's going to be a huge loss.

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hopefully he's able to pick up right where Jay Hill

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we'll see how how good this defense can be. But

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shouting from the rooftops something you and I have talked

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a ton about, which is, you know, the the Southeastern Conference,

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which you know is way more of a paper tiger

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now than it used to be, had five bids the

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College Football Playoff this year. They won three games. Two

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of them came against itself when Alabama knocked off Oklahoma

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and All missed then knocked off Alabama, and then the

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other win was All miss beating Too Lane. So they

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in last three years the SEC has had has gone

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three and seven in the college football playoffs. Now that

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everybody can pay players, the SEC no longer has their

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own strategic advantage. And you know, I say all this

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to say that the Big Twelve every year gets judged

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on one football game. One. They play thousands of games

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a year, the entire conference, and they're judged on one

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football game. And meanwhile, the SEC somehow has you know,

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continues to assert itself as a dominant dog in college football,

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continues to prove that it shouldn't be. So, you know,

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regardless of what Texas Tech did this year in terms

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of you know, the Orange Bowl, Like, to me, this

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only enhanced the notion that the Big Twelve should get

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more bids. Aren't we sick and tired of watching the

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same SEC teams lose and lay an egg every single

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year in the college football playoffs? I mean, this is

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not the Alabama that we used to know. This is

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not the Georgia that we used to know. These are

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not top dogs anymore. They look average and that's because

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they are, and like I would have loved to see.

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but like BYU should have gotten a bid now in retrospect,

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because we've seen these same the same song advance every

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year from the SEC. It's a joke that they continue

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to get a pass.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the conversation we had at Big twelve

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media days about the Big ten and specifically the SEC

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and what they were doing with their scheduling, what they

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were trying to do with their brand equity that they've

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been built over the last thirtiies. You recall that combo

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all that we had somewhat yeah, look this is the thing, Okay,

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what they just want to play each other, right, this

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is the thesis.

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Speaker 2: That's all they want to do.

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Speaker 3: Like that way they protect themselves because why over the

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last twenty five years they've been the best conference.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Nick Saban retires for a reason because he sees.

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Speaker 2: The writing on the wall.

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Speaker 3: The bagmen that built the SEC no longer make an

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impact because everybody can have bagmen now and they just

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want you to trust them, be like, hey, we have

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a gauntlet, you know in the SEC. Because we've done

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all this thing the last twenty five years, that brand

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equity is no longer is powerful because everybody knows the reality.

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They got the best clay, that the best talent because

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they're paying players and doing what and Ordern said is,

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you know, having the bagmen come through the back door.

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Speaker 2: Now they can have him come through the front door.

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Speaker 3: But they not as many are coming through the front

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door in the SEC anymore.

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Speaker 4: You're exactly right now that you bring it up. I

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do remember a conversation about you, right, like the Big

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ten and the SEC are trying to stack the deck.

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And if I'm the Big Ten, I'm on the verge

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of winning a third consecutive national championship. It would be

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the third consecutive different team to win a national championship.

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I don't need to partner with the SEC as much

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as the SEC needs to partner with me. And like,

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I think, you know, the last couple of years, you

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could chalk it up to whatever excuses you wanted. This year,

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it's so glaring, like it's beyond belief. The fact that

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Bama would lay an egg like that and lose thirty

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eight to three, and that after they knocked off Oklahoma

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in their first Dround game. I mean, how about Miami

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finishing third or fourth in the Atlantic Coast Conference and

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going on the road against an A and M team

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that was eleven and oh and holding A and M

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to just three points. They're not just good and elites

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because they say they are anymore. And I think, Ben,

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to your point, like this year proves more than without

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a shadow of a doubt, five teams is far too

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many for one conference that believes it to be as

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as alpha as it used to be, and it's certainly

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more beta now than it's been in a long time.

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Speaker 3: Ari Tempkin Big Twelve Insider here on ESPN the Fan

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talking from college football. Where has your bandwidth been allocated

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over the last week in regards to college football the

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topics he'd been broaching.

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Speaker 4: I mean the transfer portal, right, I mean, it's it's

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so hot in terms of the movement. I mean, Texas

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Tech is continuing to you know, bring in top level talent.

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They've you know, they've gone fishing now within the Big Twelve.

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They've landed Brendan Soresby, wh's, you know, one of the

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highest paid players in college football. Next season, they added

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Austin Romaine. It looks like they're on the the precipice

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of adding the freshman stud pass rusher from Oklahoma State,

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Wendel Gregory, who in his first career game had three

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and a half sacks in a half, albeit against the

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inferior opponent. But still, so, I mean, and it's not

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just that. I mean they're just loading up, you know,

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in watching the Orange Bowl then, I mean they were

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so dom minute on defense, but they just could not

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do anything on offense. And when they lose David Bailey,

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when they lose Ramelo Height, when they lose some of

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the guys that made that defense to elite, you know,

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it's one thing to improve on offense, but they also

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then have to improve improve on defense too, because they're

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not getting those guys back that made them so elite

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on defense. Jacob Rodriguez has gone, Romelo Height has gone,

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David Bailey is gone, and so I think they needed

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to re up on defense to make sure that they

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don't take a step back on defense while keeping their

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eyes on the prize because their offense was not good enough,

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and they did. They are going to bring back their

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three running backs. Quinton Joyner was the biggest name last

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offseason when when they added him, and he missed the

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entire season. So he, along with Dickey and Jacoby Williams

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be back if they can, you know, aside from matting Soorsby,

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and look, there's legitimate questions about Thoresby too and how

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last couple of years have gone in terms of the

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finish for Cincinnati. But if they can add that that

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Auburn receiver who's a legit NFL wide receiver, they look

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like they could be even better next year than they

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were last year. So you know, look, I do think

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a rising to I lists all boats of the Big Twelve.

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You know, it's one thing for the Big Twelve to

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lose talent to other conferences. So I think, you know,

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even if k State fans or you know, Oklahoma State

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fans or Cincinnati fans are upset the Tech is poaching

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their players, I mean, I feel as a member of

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the Big Twelve conference, I'd rather lose them internally than

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lose them to the SEC or the Big Ten. And

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it's good to see Tech spending on the level of

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those teams, because remember, as much as we talk about

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how much Tech spent Oregon, they who beat Tech spent

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outspent them. I mean, it's funny how that wasn't even

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brought up as part of the conversation. All anybody want

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to talk about was how much Tech spent. So yeah,

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on off season for the Big Twelve in terms of

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the transfer portal, and then you know, as a huge

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piece to that, just how horrible the schedule is. They

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need to change the off season calendar. And I think

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like there's two parts to this. There's the off season calendar,

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which which again obviously needs to change, and then there's

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the question of whether or not they need to change

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the regular season calendar. And I don't think those two

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need to necessarily go together. I think if they have

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to this offseason change the calendar, we cannot have the

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early signing period anymore. I think we go back to

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the February signing period and that being the only one,

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and the transfer portal opening up on January second is unbelievable.

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You go, February should be you're not your signing period,

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then shortly after that the portal should open. Maybe that

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changes what Springs Football looks like. Maybe it's more of

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an OTA's I know, college football has to change the

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name of things that it steals from the NFL, so

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it probab with some different name, but it's basically what

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it would be. And then you can look at all, right,

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what are we doing in the regular season. Do we

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move the season up a week? You know, Joey maguire

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and Dan Lanning talked about, you know that they think

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that this thing should be done by the start of

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the new year, as opposed to playing playoff games here,

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you know, the second week of the new year and

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then into the following week for the championship. So I

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don't think I think the two parts to this, like

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you could change the off season. You must change the

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off season because it's ridiculous what's going on right now

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concurrently with the playoffs. And then I think you can

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take a long, hard look at what changes might happen

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to the regular season in terms of everybody starting a

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week earlier or not, you know, whenever you gonna have

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rivalry games, or you can have a conference championship games.

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Will there be an expansion of the playoffs, Like, we

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can't be prisoners of waiting for the regular season calendar

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to change without changing the offseason calendar, because the offseason

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calendar needs to be changed immediately.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wanted to build off this playoff discussion.

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The Big Twelve has gotten one team in the last

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two years of the twelve team playoff. The first year,

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you could make an argument that it was understandable the

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Big Twelve only gets one team in. But this year

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you have Texas Tech and then a twelve or an

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eleven and two BYU regular season, one lost team. What's

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it gonna take for the Big twelve to get two

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teams in? Or is this gonna to be in every

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every year occurrence where we just see one team year

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in year out.

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Speaker 4: It's a great question. I mean, I think the number

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one thing is continue to build consistency at the top.

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And so two years ago, you know, when you see

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an Arizona State team go and win the Big Twelve

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kind of coming from nowhere, you know that does a

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disservice to the narrative at large, which says that the

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Big Twelve is kind of a mid mid tier league

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and anybody can win it because it's a League of Parody.

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So I think this year fixed that because now we

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saw league become a lot more top heavy. There were

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more dominant teams, and I expect those teams to stay

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to a degree in dominance, specifically Texas Tech. I do

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expect do Yu to be really good again next year,

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but like Texas Tech is going to be at the

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top of the conference again. And that's the litmus test.

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Like when regardless of how good Texas or oh you

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were on a year to year basis in the Big Twelve,

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when they were in the Big Twelve, that was always

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a litmus test. You could always say, oh, well they

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were good because they beat that this team that's Tech

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now and could potentially be BYU as well. Moving forward,

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there needs to be more consistency at the top. And like, look,

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perception is reality as unfair as it is, and perception

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takes time to change, and the perception of the Big

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twelve are now has not caught up with reality. The

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League of Parody is the SEC's that's the mid league

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right now, with just beating up in each other and

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then showing up to the playoffs and laying an egg.

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So the Big twelve is more top heavy than it's

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been and I think it needs to continue to stay

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that way, and certainly looks like Tech will once again

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be a behemoth based on what they're doing in the portal.

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And you know, and then like BYU, if you're stringing

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together really good recruiting classes, like that's also a huge

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key here.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: One of the things, guys, that I think is such

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an important subplot to the final four here the semi

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final games, is there's two teams right now that are

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playing in the Final four, Indiana and ole Miss. They're

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not blue chip ratio teams. So quick refresher teams that

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have won national championships in the modern era have have

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basically always had every single champion has had fifty percent

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of their roster before five star recruits over a four

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year period, every single champion. So there's two teams left

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that are blue chip ratio teams and two they're not,

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and they're both playing each other. You know, you've got

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Oregon playing Indiana one, the blue ship ratio team on's

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not in Ole Miss playing Miami. One's one is and

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one's not. Right, So if Miami plays Oregon, right, it

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sort of goes back to that blue ship ratio thing.

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think this says a lot about where the future trajectory

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of the Big twelve is because there's been this history

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that says Big twelve team can't win a national championship

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because of these None of these teams are blue ship

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ratio teams. And even if Tech or BYU or Colorado,

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who kind of was on a trajectory to be there,

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it takes three or four more years of doing what

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they're doing in order to get there. So if Indiana

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or Ole miss goes to winnes A National Championship, I

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think it shows that in this era of the Transfer portal,

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you can build a championship caliber team through the portal,

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which I think would be huge, huge piece for the

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Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: Ari Tempkin Big Twelve Insider here on your Utah ESPN

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Radio Network, want to ask you about what you've heard

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about this hold him on Williams situation.

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Speaker 2: His agent has dropped him.

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Speaker 3: He's hired lawyer to try to get out of his

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nil deal that he signed just a day before he.

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Speaker 2: Entered the portal.

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Speaker 3: How do you think this this plays out legally? I

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know there's been efforts to maybe hold young men accountable

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that have signed an IL deals and have maybe rescinded

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on that, trying to get out of the deal, but

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they signed it. You know, certain teams are trying to,

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you know, try trying to hold them accountable in some way,

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shape or for him.

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Speaker 2: How do you think this thing plays out?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, as I think we all

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can agree, like when you're living in a society, there's

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certain rules you probably a bye bye, and you know, contracts,

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you know, should probably be a little bit more you know,

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set in stone than how they're being treated in college

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sports right now. You know, Williams is one example, and

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it's an obvious, glaring example, but there's plenty other examples

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of this. I don't I'm not going to say that

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rob Wright signed a deal with Baylor, but according to Baylor,

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rob Wright had agreed in principle to a deal and

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then turned around and went to BYU. So this happens

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all the time, and it's it sucks, right, I mean

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it even if it benefits you, it sucks. And I

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think the Williams thing is just such a glaring, Like

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it's almost as if he signed a deal, realized his

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market value was higher than it was, and then rescinded

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the deal. And I mean, you're totally right. Then I'm

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holding people accountable. I mean, this is kind of how

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things work, right, Like if you sign a bad deal,

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that's sort of how negotiations work. Sorry, but that's just

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how these things go. At the end of the day, though,

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the reality is we need collective bargaining. That's the only

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way to fix this. And I don't know how this

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will go into court of law. The problem is in

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a court of law, these things drag out. And meanwhile,

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Williams can just, you know, like other players have before him,

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you know, enroll in a different school and hey, I'm

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a student, I can play football. Can I come play

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in your football team?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: So, like there's there's major ways around the transfer portal

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and you know, easy loopholes right now to jump through

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in order to that, guys are going to get their way,

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Like he's gonna leave, He's not going to stay at

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Washington because the system is set up for him to

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take advantage of loopholes that will allow him to leave

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and potentially go to LSU or wherever else he wants

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to go. So you know, the only fix to this

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is collective bargaining. You know, the reality is collective bargaining

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is not good for the student athletes because I mean

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they can leave at any time and not and not

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a buye bind an these contracts, they're constantly free agents,

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so every year they go back into free agency. So

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and it's not it wouldn't be an easy and dev

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either collective bargaining. I mean, there's so many athletes, how

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do you get them to organize. It's a mess, There's

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no doubt about it. But you know, and I'm not

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a lawyer, but it seems like within contract law, the

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only viable opp here is for two sides to come

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to the table and then it goes back to leadership.

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There's just no leadership here, Like there's nobody in charge.

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And all anybody could say is that that nobody's in charge.

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And so you know, there's there's nobody to complain to,

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there's nobody lobby to. So at some point, like we

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need somebody to be a commissioner, We need a collective

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bargaining agreement between you know, the the administration and the

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student athletes, and I mean, there's really no way around it.

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It's the only six you know, Congress isn't going to

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save this. It's been years now and they haven't even

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gotten a bill past committee hearings. I mean, they're they're

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not even close on a bill. So and even if

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they did, who knows that that would even hold up

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and get signed into law. And we're five years in

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without a build geting out of committee. So we've got

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to get collective bargain. It's the only fix to this

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to really rein it in. And then you get deals

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that are you know, not going to go be held

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up in court like this, and you have a little

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bit more uniformity, and it it's it's horrible, it's awful.

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I get why say and are upset about it. I

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get why everybody's upset about it. It's it should it's

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not how the world functions, and it shouldn't be how

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college football functions.

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Speaker 3: I will say this though, and I agree there's a

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there's a lot of things I can say that that

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that are broken about the current system. But the free market,

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capitalistic college football landscape that we're operating in has allowed

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Ole Miss, who has been a middling SEC team for

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a long time.

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Speaker 2: In Indiana, who has.

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Speaker 3: Never seen double digit victories in its like in its

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one hundred year career.

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Speaker 2: You know, like lifespan there.

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Speaker 3: Indiana may be your national champion this year, Ole miss

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maybe your national champion. Oregon doesn't have a national championship.

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They could win it. I don't think they have it.

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I don't think they have a national championship. Miami won

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one in the in the nineties. They've been irrelevant to

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last twenties, That's what I'm saying, Like Miami really hasn't

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been overly relevant since the late eighties and early nineties,

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you know what I mean. So like we are seeing

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in a leveling of the playing field. That's actually a

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good thing, I think. Uh, But to your point, it's like, Okay, well,

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how long do we want this leveling of the playing

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field to play out? Like I want more data points

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of free market capitalism college football wise, and then maybe

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we allow the pendulum because the I'm willing to let

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this play out for the next five years and then

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bring the pendulum back. I'd like to see the pendulum

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keep swinging this way, just to just to see what

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happens from a evening of the playing field standpoint.

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Speaker 4: And look, I'm one hundred percent with you on the

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like evening in the playing field and the fact that

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what we've had right now at transpired had allowed for

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the playing field even I mean, I made the joke

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earlier and it's one hundred percent truthful. The sec is

478
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not as good as it was because they everybody else

479
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is paying players now, and there's a lot of truth

480
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to that. But I also don't think if you you know,

481
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have viable contracts and there's collective bargaining, that that necessarily

482
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would be the end of that you know, equity across

483
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the board, you know. And I think what's maybe most

484
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interesting about this this dynamic is is like, Okay, Indiana

485
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had the twenty fifth ranked transfer portal class in twenty

486
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twenty five. In twenty twenty four they had these thirtieth

487
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ranked transfer portal class. Right, So it is obviously an

488
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extremely inexact science in terms of the players you're going

489
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after in the portal I mean twenty four to seven

490
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sports on three sports. The companies that are creating these rankings,

491
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they have the science of the high school rankings down

492
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way better than they do the transfer portal and like

493
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we're as media and analysts and fans, you know, glue

494
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to these transfer commitments and then we look and we're like,

495
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where are they ranked? And it seems more inconsequential in

496
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terms of the ranking than anything. Like Indiana has put

497
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together a behemoth by for the most part, adding age.

498
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You know, their average age is twenty three. The Bears

499
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are going to play the Green Bay Packers on Saturday night.

500
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The average age the Green Bay Packers.

501
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Speaker 6: Is twenty five.

502
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Speaker 4: So Inana, regardless of how the players are viewed from

503
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a star standpoint, are performed like they've found a formula

504
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that works. And I think that is what to me

505
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is the most intriguing aspect of this is, you know,

506
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the science within the science where it's not just about well,

507
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everybody've viewsed this guy as being the best player. This

508
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guy's got the best measurables. Like, there's other aspects that

509
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other teams are strategizing to look for. Joey McGuire wants

510
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guys at play, so some, you know, some in the

511
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portal are going to look for guys that are you know,

512
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former five stars or four stars that maybe didn't get

513
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on the field as much at Obama or at Georgia

514
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or a LSU. But McGuire's approaches. I don't want guys

515
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that haven't seen the field. I want guys that have produced,

516
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have been on the field. So everybody's got their own approach,

517
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their own strategy. There's there's no one size fits all.

518
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I think it's clear and that part, to me is

519
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what's so intriguing about it.

520
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Speaker 3: Ari, best way to support you what you do, how

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you do it. For all of our listeners today, she.

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Speaker 4: Had that very much, Bud. Yeah, I mean you can

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follow me on social media, but I also started a

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So just search my name Ari Tempting or ARI Sports

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Speaker 3: Love it man, great stuff is always Ari Tempican ladies

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and gentlemen. We'll catch up a again soon.

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Speaker 6: You're the best.

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Speaker 4: Bend Take care brother, be well.

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go to break.

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Speaker 2: But what was it?

545
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Speaker 5: What was your question going to be? I'll text them

546
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I was gonna bring up the idea. You've heard the

547
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the phrase we need to rein in NIL the last

548
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few years. I have a theory that's coming from the

549
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SEC teams, mainly the Bamas and the Georgia's of them,

550
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who just want to be able to go above a

551
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salary cap that they propose under the table. Again, I

552
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don't I haven't really heard that they want regulation. They

553
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want regulation so that they can circumvent it.

554
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Speaker 2: Again.

555
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Speaker 5: Like I hear a lot of people say NIL is

556
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ruining college football, but I've yet to hear somebody actually

557
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convince me how it is doing that, because I still

558
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go to games on Saturdays, and I still see the

559
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same amazing sport that I grew up in love for

560
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the most part. Obviously, there are things that have changed

561
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about it, but the product is still amazing. I'm yet

562
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to be convinced what the real problem is. If your

563
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quarterback leaves, which I don't know BYU had go get

564
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a new one, like you can do that.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

566
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Speaker 5: I don't see the problem with it, to be honest.

567
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,559
Speaker 3: Those that think it's ruined they are those who are

568
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either on they were winning in the former system and

569
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they want to continue to take advantage of the system

570
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through their traditional bag man liquid cash means because they're

571
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going to circumvent the rules because they're going to do

572
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anything to win, or they're the people that thought that

573
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they were living under a rock they're ostriching and didn't

574
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know that everyone was cheating.

575
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,079
Speaker 2: Yep, they just didn't know. And they're like, well, it's

576
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going to ruin the sport. These kids, well, these kids.

577
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Speaker 5: I just think they underestimated. I think they all thought

578
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that they could establish more dominance with the money, because

579
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that's what they've been doing. I think they underestimated what

580
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:46,119
happens when you let fans impact the sport. Yeah, and

581
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,559
I do think you're gonna see market correction because I

582
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:51,200
think there's going to be in the next few years.

583
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,599
I think there's gonna be a lot of teams where

584
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,119
boosters are tired of paying millions and millions every year

585
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480
and like they're not getting paid back, not they're doing

586
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,799
it out of them. I think you're going to see

587
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a correction if you.

588
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Speaker 3: Get billionaires involved that can actually pay their players.

589
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Speaker 2: It's nice.

590
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know how many billionaires there

591
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are in Tuscaloosa, not many.

592
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Speaker 2: Not many.

593
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Speaker 3: But then you had a lot of fans that were

594
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willing to give a little bit of you know, do

595
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,640
little side deals to little side hustles.

596
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:16,599
Speaker 2: Come on down to the come on down to the

597
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,039
car dealership.

598
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Speaker 3: We'll get you a little something some you know, and

599
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,880
enough money, you know, gets in those hands. I remember

600
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,279
hearing back in twenty seventeen when we were with BA was.

601
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Speaker 2: Going out to LSU.

602
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Speaker 3: I was having a discussion with the recruiting guy and

603
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he's and I was like, Hey, what's the market rate

604
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,079
in the SEC for like a d N. He's like

605
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probably ninety thousand to one hundred and twenty thousand annually.

606
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Can you imagine this day and age having a four star,

607
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,480
five star d ND and you're only paying them ninety

608
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,400
one hundred and twenty thousand.

609
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Speaker 2: That's what they were paying them when they were cheating.

610
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Speaker 3: Now LSU's paying a lot more than that now, but

611
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you got to realize that was what their cap was

612
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less than a decade ago.

613
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Speaker 2: What they were willing the SEC was willing to pay

614
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at that time.

615
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Speaker 3: And those donors, right, that's what they were used to.

616
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That's what they're paying Now they're willing to pay a

617
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little bit more than that, But eventually those donors will

618
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get a little bit of donor fatigue because it's not

619
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necessarily all tax deductible anymore.

620
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm going to say this, I'm gonna make that.

621
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I'll be very declarative. NIL has not ruined college sports.

622
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It's fixed college sports. I believe that wholeheartedly. I think

623
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Indiana fans will agree to Ole Miss fans. I think

624
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most fans outside of Tuscaloosa would agree with that.

625
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Speaker 3: Signetti is unique in the sense that I mean, I

626
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think it's coaching culture and I mean his roster was

627
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ranked like seventy second for their recruiting rank.

628
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Speaker 5: Texas Tech the Oregon should agree to because Oregon was

629
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,680
not relevant for most of college football. It's only recently,

630
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mostly the twenty first century, that they've been relevant at all.

631
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Speaker 2: Sure, I think there's a lot of a lot of

632
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:03,799
truth to that.

633
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:05,519
Speaker 3: Like I said, you look at the Final Four right now.

634
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:13,000
Miami has been irrelevant for you know, thirty years. Oregon,

635
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you know, only in the last decade has it really

636
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,960
become relevant in college football with Phil Knight started allocating

637
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a ton of money to it, and and then obviously

638
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Indiana has never won any football games. And you know,

639
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,119
you're just looking at oh Miss. They've always been at

640
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bottom of the wrong middling SEC school because remember they

641
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,759
tried to cheat with Hugh Freeze and they got caught

642
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,079
and they got reprimanded, castigated from the power brokers they

643
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,519
were trying to they were starting to win and they're

644
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,880
doing what everybody else was doing and they got their

645
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,720
hands slapped.

646
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Speaker 5: Just look at the playoffs over the last few years.

647
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Any given Saturday is more is alive now more than ever.

648
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,759
You had Arizona State in the playoff last year. Arizona

649
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:00,880
State has been horrible Texas to most of my life.

650
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,480
This year, it's crazy so I think you're right. I

651
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,799
think it's fixing college football. Most people just say it's

652
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:08,640
not sustainable.

653
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,839
Speaker 2: We'll see how sustainable it is. Let the pendulum swing.

654
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:14,279
Speaker 5: It's like, what do you mean it's not sustainable? The

655
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,920
market will correct itself. We're still gonna have college football. Yeah,

656
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,240
I don't see the I'm yet to be convinced what

657
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,759
the real issue with NIL is.

658
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Speaker 3: We'll go to break, please don't go anywhere. Coming up next,

659
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,000
do we want to get into this Cougar byte? Ronald

660
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:32,480
the three Man Weaver, Yes we do. Okay, we're gonna

661
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,880
get into a little cougar byte.

662
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Speaker 2: H Not all as well.

663
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Speaker 3: Out in Kentucky, Lexington is in an outrage right now

664
00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:43,680
for regarding their basketball team. They've spent twenty two million

665
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:50,480
on their roster and their ROI is not what they're.

666
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:50,359
Speaker 2: They're not happy with their ROI.

667
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,519
Speaker 3: That coming up next, this is Cougar Sports on one

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of three nine nine eight point three ESPN.

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not doing two good guys. Last year they did make it, didn't.

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I mean, Kentucky made it to a Sweet sixteen last year?

697
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That had a good season

698
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,200
last year, right, Sweet sixteen? Solid they did.

699
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do remember. I don't remember who they played

700
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,799
in the tournament, but I remember looking and it wasn't.

701
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,119
It wasn't an impressive two wins. But Sweet sixteen is

702
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still tough to get to.

703
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Speaker 3: You got to the Sweet sixteen, they they ended up

704
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with Troy I think, and the fighting a Lion.

705
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Speaker 2: I that's who they beat in order to get Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 3: They ended up losing to Tennessee and it was a

707
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,680
sixty five seventy eight loss. So, you know, not a

708
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:08,679
bad first year for the Kentucky Wildcats under Mark Pope,

709
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former BYU head coach. But things are not looking too

710
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,519
hot right now in Kentucky. Okay, right now, the Wildcats

711
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:23,519
are nine and six and they're they're the twelfth place

712
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:24,800
team in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: They're Quad one opportunities.

714
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Speaker 3: They're two and five with losses to Louisville, Michigan State

715
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,679
North Carolina, Gonzaga, and Alabama. Their only two wins and

716
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,519
Quad one opportunities are Indiana and Saint John's. They lost

717
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,920
a Quad two opportunity versus Missoo recently, and then they

718
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,119
have seven Quad four wins. So after this Quad two

719
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:54,639
loss to Missou at home, this is what ensued. A

720
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,199
Kentucky fan called the postgame show on ESPN six eighty one,

721
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,760
five point seven.

722
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,039
Speaker 2: This is what he had to say.

723
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 6: Oh, we're gonna pay.

724
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,679
Speaker 3: It's a tragedy. Mark is not even the dang points,

725
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,400
even if you would have found a way to win

726
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,760
the game.

727
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,039
Speaker 2: It's not the dang point total, Mark.

728
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,159
Speaker 4: It's everything you can get in beclean.

729
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: The point total that matters.

730
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,519
Speaker 4: We could see the writing on the wall. The James

731
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:19,840
suck and we pay a lot of dang money for it.

732
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,280
Some boosters and people did and people that also pay

733
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:26,239
for their time. I'm gonna have a start on attack

734
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,159
with this Crest.

735
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: He's gotta go, TJ, He's gotta go, Zach, gotta go,

736
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,280
same man. This is crazy. Uh.

737
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: Barstool Sports put out an article the Mark Pope era

738
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:43,480
at Kentucky is a disaster, and uh, I'm sure cow

739
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,199
coach Cal's over here, like, hey, hey, I told you so,

740
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,360
you had it good with me, you had it better. Look,

741
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,079
I'll say this much. It's still early. It really is January.

742
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: I know it's getting later, but it's still early.

743
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: There's plenty we have opportunities to get into the NC

744
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:06,760
DOUBLEA Tournament, and I very well could be that Kentucky

745
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,639
finds a way to hit its stride in February. They

746
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:17,039
have some quad one opportunities. Okay, you got Arkansas.

747
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,599
Speaker 2: You can make it all right with a win against

748
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,760
Arkansas January thirty. First, you got that opportunity. You have

749
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Tennessee February seventh.

750
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: Another top twenty five opportunity, Georgia February seventeenth. There's a

751
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,599
lot of opportunities here, like Florida twice, Vanderbilt. He's got opportunities, guys.

752
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:42,199
He can rite the ship. And as long as you

753
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,880
get to the NC DOUBLEA Tournament, depending on the seating,

754
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,760
depending on your opponent, you can make a run and

755
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,679
all will be well. And I'll never doubt Mark Pope

756
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,840
like he's gonna put in the work. He's They've spent

757
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,840
a pretty penny though on this roster, and it's just

758
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,639
not coming to pruition like he would hope for twenty

759
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,039
two million dollars roster.

760
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,119
Speaker 2: That's a that's a big roster cap right there.

761
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 5: I want to agree that he I agree he definitely

762
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:13,360
has the opportunities to write the ship. I don't know

763
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,760
that this team will. If I'm remembering correctly. During Mark

764
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Pope's time at BYU, if a BYU team started off rough,

765
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,320
it didn't usually fix itself.

766
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: It started hot and then waned.

767
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 5: That's how it usually went. The only exception I'll say

768
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,559
is that twenty nineteen twenty twenty team. But it got

769
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,599
better because at the beginning, due to NCAA sanctions, the

770
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:43,480
only child wasn't allowed to play. So I don't know

771
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,800
that Mark Pope necessarily has the track record of writing

772
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,360
the ship. Usually it's been that he assembles a good

773
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,480
roster and they they click.

774
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

775
00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:02,119
Speaker 5: So Kentucky Bluegrass, interesting fact, I promise I'll connect it.

776
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,360
Need the temperature needs to be between sixty and seventy

777
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,039
five degrees, and Mark Pope might find that the hot

778
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,760
seats getting a little too hot for that Kentucky Bluegrass

779
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,199
to stay green. Yeah, at the end of the season.

780
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,800
Because big time programs like Kentucky rarely have patients for

781
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,599
bad seasons.

782
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: Mark Pope said this to Kentucky fans, they have the

783
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,079
right to do whatever they want. It's a hard space.

784
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,559
Pope said, this is tough. This is not the way

785
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:32,800
we intended to start the SEC play. And that's exactly

786
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,199
what we have in our hands right now. When you

787
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,800
go through hard times, which everybody does, the question is

788
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,719
how much does it take to break you. I'm not

789
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,880
about to break. This group's not about to break. We're

790
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,760
no place there. The only thing you can do is

791
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,800
grieve as quickly as possible and move on to the

792
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,440
next incredibly challenging game, which we have on Saturday, Mississippi State.

793
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,440
The effort and trying to get better, and these guys

794
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,280
will BBN right the you know, the the fan base

795
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,440
has the right to do and say and act however

796
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,159
they want. They're their greatest fans in the world, and

797
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:12,840
I'm sure they they are incredibly incredibly frustrated and upset.

798
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:14,719
They have the right to do whatever they want. In

799
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,519
terms of this team, we don't have this opportunity. Our

800
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,880
job is to suffer all night long, figure out how

801
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,719
to get better, get a little bit tougher dig a

802
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,920
little bit harder, execute more, more well, and move on

803
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:30,679
and win games.

804
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: Thoughts commentary your reaction to his quote.

805
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 5: I think he's handling very well. That he knows this

806
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,239
team's not great. That he's got. There's a lot of

807
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,599
talent there, like guys like Colin Chandler that b by

808
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:46,079
You would love to have a guy like Colin Chandler.

809
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: He's a player.

810
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got a lot of good players, but they're

811
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:54,360
not coming together. And and I think I think they've

812
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,119
got some It's exactly what's said. They've got some long nights.

813
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,760
They've got to figure some things out because nine and

814
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,559
six just doesn't cut it for Kentucky basketball. It doesn't

815
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,480
even cut it for BYU. It didn't when he was here.

816
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,039
And he's at a much let's be honest, it's a

817
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:14,079
higher profile job than when he was at BYU. So

818
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,599
I think deep down Mark's starting to feel the pressure.

819
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,280
I really do. And I want to be very clear.

820
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:24,559
I hope he writes the ship. I think Mark's a

821
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:25,360
good I think he will.

822
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,199
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna write this.

823
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: I think I think he's a great guy. I think

824
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,480
he deserves this is his dream job, and I never

825
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,840
want to see a guy fail at his dream. But

826
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,920
it's gonna be tough.

827
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: Yep, he's got opportunities, my friend. Can he seize the day?

828
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,840
Can he seize those opportunities? That is the question, Ronald

829
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,079
the three man Weaver, I don't know if you want

830
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,920
to chime in on this, your thoughts to comics Cherry,

831
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,719
your follow.

832
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 7: Up to this, I'll chime in. There's a chance he

833
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,800
could be gone at the end of the year. I'm

834
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000
just gonna straight up say what it is. Look, when

835
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:57,880
you got twenty two million dollars on the table band

836
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,960
and you're in these premiere conferences, no one cares.

837
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 6: They don't care if it's his dream job. And this

838
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,000
is just the facts and the power brokers.

839
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,679
Speaker 7: Though, look what they did to James Franklin like that

840
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,639
was that was unacceptable, but they did it.

841
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: That.

842
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 6: That's just where it has been. So Pope could be

843
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,719
out at the end of this year.

844
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,639
Speaker 7: Like and you're right, if he gets into the tournament,

845
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,800
makes a run that gets to swey sixteen, you mess around,

846
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,960
you're in the lead eight all all that's forgiven. People

847
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,840
will forget all yet like that that will that will

848
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,480
save his job. But the way this is looking starting

849
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,440
off owing to a conference to play nine and six,

850
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,199
losing that match up to you gotta win that matchup.

851
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,440
You can't lose like that and I and I appreciate

852
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:33,800
him fighting for us guys.

853
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 6: Getting teed up, doing everything he can.

854
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 7: I appreciate that he's out there battling, but that doesn't

855
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,480
matter at the end of the day. Like you're getting

856
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,480
paid to win games, and then people are paying their

857
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,719
money and this roster's not coming together. So if you

858
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,599
don't figure it out, they're gonna go find someone that will.

859
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:49,320
That's what happens, and that's the that's the danger when

860
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,519
you pay so much. That is the negative aspect of

861
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,320
when it doesn't come together. Right, it's a great thing

862
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,719
and the athletes are able to work hard and get

863
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,360
themselves compensated, and then coaching staff's are put together.

864
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,039
Speaker 6: But when it doesn't, this is what they do.

865
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 7: They pull the trigger on you after a year or

866
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:06,920
on a great coach in football because it's national championship

867
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,199
or bus And look, he hasn't failed Colin channel. Colin

868
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,760
Chanler's played very well, is averaging eight point two points.

869
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,000
He's had multiple games where he scored in double figures.

870
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,719
I think he's had nine games this year already and

871
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,639
two games where he's just scored fifteen or more like.

872
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 6: So it's a good basketball player that's on that roster.

873
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna be honest, Ben, if this doesn't go well,

874
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,199
and if it's bad for Mark Pope and they fire him,

875
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,039
I could see Colin Chanler going into the portal and

876
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,800
potentially maybe coming back home. Look, I always thought he's

877
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,360
a big twelve guard. I thought he would do well.

878
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,719
I think this Kevin young Staff could develop him really well.

879
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,320
I think better than Kentucky. And that's because of the experience.

880
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,519
It's nothing against Kentucky. They have good people, but just

881
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,840
Mark Pope, excuse me, Kevin young Staff, I think it's

882
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280
more robust in that regard and everything that they have.

883
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 6: But we'll see.

884
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 7: I hope he does figure it out. Right, he was

885
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,760
at BYU, and look, it's very interesting Mark Pope Lee's BYU.

886
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,920
B YU gets better, Mark Pope gets Kentucky, and it

887
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,079
seems like Kentucky's getting worse. That's the unfortunate part. But

888
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,880
that's just the reality of the situation. And I want

889
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,519
to say something about the twenty nineteen team it's not

890
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,119
a shot at Pope. Pope inherited a lot of that team.

891
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:11,119
He did not build that team himself. He did not

892
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,519
go out and recruit that all the way. That was

893
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,000
something still the Dave Ross era. I'm giving credit to

894
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,079
Mark Pope Hafley of it because he had it, But

895
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,719
a lot of those guys weren't Pope guys. Alex Barceolo

896
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,360
was a Pope guy, but like Joli Child's was not

897
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:23,920
a Pope guy.

898
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:25,079
Speaker 6: Has is not a Pope guy.

899
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 5: So that did he did have to re recruit Juli Child.

900
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,199
Speaker 7: He did one hundred percent, I'm giving you, But you

901
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,639
also have to think about Okay coming back from the NBA,

902
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,719
and partially that was Joly didn't get good feedback on

903
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,320
what he needed.

904
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,559
Speaker 6: They needed to see three point shooting.

905
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 7: If you go look at Yoli's numbers his first three years,

906
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,760
they were not great, and from three he was able

907
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,440
to shoot better. So yeah, you re recruited him. But

908
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,519
it also was a match made of heaven. Yoly wasn't

909
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,039
gonna go anywhere else. His wife was also from Utah

910
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:49,960
and was local, and he needed to improve his three

911
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,000
point shot. So again, Pope to me inherited that now

912
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:56,000
I feel everybody, media members and fans will robbed because

913
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,079
I felt like that team was a.

914
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: Legit Sweet sixteen team.

915
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 7: But at the end of today, Ben, he's had some

916
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,079
tough riots and look, no one's gonna I'm not gonna

917
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,039
feel bad for the guy that's he has he has

918
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:07,760
eliminated in I l like b YU.

919
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 6: You know, it took to.

920
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,599
Speaker 7: Get the coach there for it to be able to

921
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:12,880
get there, and he overachieved here at b YU and

922
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,079
he put himself in this situation. Now he has access,

923
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,559
he's not getting it done. That's on him and the staff.

924
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:19,159
They got to go into the locker room, get into

925
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,400
the coaches room or whatever, look themselves in the face

926
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,119
and turn it around, which they have the ability to

927
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:25,440
do because if they don't, I truly believe that Mark

928
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,039
Pope could be out of a job at the end

929
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:28,320
of the season if he doesn't make a run in

930
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:28,760
the tournament.

931
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: There you go, that's a little cougar vite there, and

932
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:34,440
uh uh.

933
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: It was a fiery one. It was.

934
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,639
Speaker 5: Fire and brimstone everywhere. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we stand up

935
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,960
and we we sing and dance to this show and

936
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:44,559
this church.

937
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: Oh man, crazy stuff, man, Uh, those postgame shows. Uh,

938
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,599
they just hit a little bit different out in Kentucky.

939
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,400
Like if we had like call ins like that, I mean,

940
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:03,239
we'd be getting phone calls from from certain people, wouldn't wouldn't.

941
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,079
Speaker 7: Wed Dude, Hey Ben, we would get so many And

942
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,559
I just want the people that are listening to you.

943
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: Got it so docile?

944
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,559
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think you'd get rants like that

945
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:21,039
from fans if we let Collins. Let's call it how

946
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,760
it is. People would give you a call like that

947
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:28,440
every time. Every time you loses, they blame a rod

948
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,760
for some reason. But but I don't think it's warranted.

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It's the thing. I don't think it's warmed.

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Speaker 7: Even if it is warranted, I'm I'm with Ben. Look,

951
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there are those that do listening tune into the show.

952
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Speaker 6: I know that they do. I'm just gonna say it.

953
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Speaker 7: I'm not going to say any names, but I don't

954
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want those people calling and get into it because that's

955
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not that's not what we do. Like right, fans are

956
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,440
allowed to be emotional upset, but it's our job to

957
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,719
bridge that gap of the truth and you know, the

958
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accountability to pat trot of accountability.

959
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Speaker 2: And we do have it.

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Speaker 7: But if you let fans like that call in which

961
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I think is a great thing. I think it should

962
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be allowed. I don't want to take it away. But

963
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,760
if you do that, you facilitate that too much. It

964
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starts to then make us look like, Okay, we entertain

965
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,039
that type of behavior, and that's our narrative and it's

966
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not our behavior. Is we give credit where credits due,

967
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,679
we give constructive criticism. When constructive criticism, it's also do

968
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we have a balance of bolt And sometimes fans they

969
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aren't balanced their emotional for a reason, and that's their job.

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Speaker 6: Their job is to be emotional fanatics, baby fanatics.

971
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's why it's loud in the stadium. But I

972
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,000
want to say this about a Rod.

973
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: I think he earned his money.

974
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:27,679
Speaker 6: That's all I got to say.

975
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,159
Speaker 5: I think he is responsible for the return of the

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quarterback factor.

977
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,199
Speaker 6: I v yu, I agree.

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Speaker 5: That's that's my take.

979
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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's a valid take. I

980
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,320
remember he came in in twenty eighteen.

981
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Speaker 5: And he's turned out NFL quarterbacks ever since.

982
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 7: No, but remember Andrew It saw Kalanie Ay. Rod had

983
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,480
nothing to do it. They remember that, Jaron.

984
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Speaker 2: Hall, you have.

985
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Speaker 3: Baylor Romney, well, I forgot about Baylor. Yea, Now he

986
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was really good when he was at b Yu.

987
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Speaker 7: Remember the Bowens had sold Jaim out of Peavers cooking

988
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rem off.

989
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:09,199
Speaker 3: We could bear Bachmeier. Guys, why wild they hate no.

990
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,880
I think this year they came around. I think this

991
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,679
year they came around. But they're very they could be fickle.

992
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,199
They may turn on them this next year. We'll see

993
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,679
as soon as Bear gets injured and then they have

994
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,239
to resort to the back of Ah.

995
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,039
Speaker 6: I know he sucked.

996
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,519
Speaker 2: I knew it. I knew it. Rod was the worst

997
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:27,480
O seeing while we're doing this.

998
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: Why we should have out got you know, somebody else,

999
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:33,119
Darren Bebo.

1000
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Speaker 2: We should have got Jason back. We should have got

1001
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,760
you know anyway.

1002
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean a lot of times you're one

1003
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injury away from something bad happen.

1004
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Speaker 6: Everybody has been, even at the highest level. Can I

1005
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:43,880
be honest?

1006
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: Without l J. Martin, we weren't nearly as good. Like

1007
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let's be like, well, can I bring this up. We

1008
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,159
kind of got lucky Bear bach mart LJ. Didn't get

1009
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injured at Allah.

1010
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 6: This is true.

1011
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 7: That's why you gotta go get gen and White to

1012
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,159
have that, you know, the West Virginia running back.

1013
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you shout out to Sky the

1014
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,760
Main and and and and Kolby Clawson and Ryan Phillis

1015
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,360
in Ryan Phillis like for keeping our guys healthy, bro

1016
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LJ L.

1017
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Speaker 5: The difference between it b YU with LJ and without

1018
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,760
LJ is a three touchdown Bowl Pop Tarts Bowl win

1019
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:18,800
versus a four point win because we were in the

1020
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red zone every darn time we have the ball.

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00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,679
Speaker 7: There you go, I'm but then you said one injury away. Look,

1022
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,360
the great Andy Reid, we call him. What happened his quarterback?

1023
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480
What got hurt? And that's all it was. It took

1024
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one little slip of you know, pulling down the leg

1025
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,239
on a run and guess what, his season was over

1026
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,119
and he missed the playoffs for the first time since

1027
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,719
like twenty fourteen.

1028
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 5: Being I think that happened, missed the playoffs.

1029
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, but let me have the argument to fit the

1030
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,679
narrative of that, your one injury away from it happened

1031
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:49,280
and they were gonna lose that game. They were gonna

1032
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,000
they were't gonna win that game because yeah, but you

1033
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:52,760
know what I mean, one injury away and it's over.

1034
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,760
But yeah, go rebuild, go retool, Look quarterback deup, you

1035
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,639
got young guys. I think you should go get the

1036
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,199
running back from West Virginia or someone with the also

1037
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,679
Devon Ecka. Rebuild it, go get two more running backs.

1038
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,400
Ben have a depth. You know, Javesa obviously proved and

1039
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,519
earned and he's coming back. But go get guys. So

1040
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:09,480
LJ just doesn't get beat up. Let him go get

1041
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,239
the rushing record and be as healthy as possible and

1042
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,679
offload that man. I would love to see nothing more

1043
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,199
Ben the next year, to see Buy you run the

1044
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,840
ball seventy percent of the time and throw the ball

1045
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,880
thirty I know that's not possible. I'm storing numbers. That's

1046
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,000
a little hyperbole, but I'm serious. I would like to

1047
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,239
see them have forty fifty, maybe fifty five touches on

1048
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,320
the ground and really let the running backs work and

1049
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,400
let LJ kill again.

1050
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 6: I want to see LJ do what Tyler Algier did. Ben,

1051
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,719
That's what I want to say.

1052
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 7: I want to LJA see him close out games with

1053
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:39,480
seven to eight minutes left in the fourth quarter where

1054
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,599
we're gonna run the ball like we did against Oklahoma

1055
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:43,800
State and the second half down your throw tenth straight

1056
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,280
times that you can't stop it.

1057
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Speaker 2: Let's go to break.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are they enforceable? If you try to get out

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of them?

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Speaker 3: Can you be sued by the school or the conference

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when you try to bounce after signing Demm Williams, the

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starting quarterback for the University of Washington, signed a contract

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a few days ago and then entered the port and

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said peace, I'm out. His agent dropped him, said we

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do not align and we wish him nothing but the best,

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and DeMont has hired a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Let's discuss these.

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Speaker 3: Occurrences with Handy and Handy, your local injury attorneys that

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next is Cougar Sports on one O three nine ninety

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eight point three