WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:06.639 I told you record mono as if I know what 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:08.599 the fuck I'm talking about. I just like sounding like, 3 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:12.560 do you record mono? You got in Uma in the 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:20.320 forty one hundred Mega hurts? All right, cools to la cla, Yeah, 5 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:21.039 I cla. 6 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:22.000 I live here. 7 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:28.039 Oh my god, we'll coming on that. Hey, everybody, Welcome 8 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:30.359 back to the fire Escape Cast. I'm Mike Mahardi, your 9 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:32.920 host as always. It's episode one hundred nineteen. It is 10 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:37.399 forty seven degrees in Boise, Idaho, on this fine night. 11 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.000 We're here as always with Mary. 12 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.799 Kish It's a full crisp day. 13 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.479 And returning guests from episode fifty two so a while ago. 14 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:49.719 It's Chris Plant. 15 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:53.880 Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I don't I'm not very good 16 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.719 at numbers. How many is it between fifty two and 17 00:00:57.759 --> 00:00:58.840 one nineteen? How many of that? 18 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.079 Are you asking? How long it? Why we haven't asked 19 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:02.799 you in that stretch to come on. 20 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.719 That's not what I asked. Number. I'm just curious about it. Number. 21 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:09.439 You're forty eight for sixty seven, I think, yeah, that's right, 22 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:10.239 something like that. 23 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:15.040 Seventy sixty more episodes have happened now and then than 24 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:17.439 the entire run of the show up until me meaning 25 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:17.760 on it. 26 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:20.640 That's true that Chris, it's really important with a voice 27 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.879 as prolific as yoursself, don't water it down. 28 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:25.239 And that's so true. 29 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.480 Get excited to hear what you have to say. 30 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.519 Yeah, it sounds like that was rehearsed. It's because Mary 31 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:32.920 has already tried that line on me. 32 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:36.840 It is my dreamed gaslight men on this podcast. 33 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:38.760 That's why you came. 34 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.760 Your dream or your routine. 35 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:42.719 It's a little bit, a little bit, a a little 36 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:44.920 bit of Bee. I get to live the dream every 37 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:48.719 day here. But I think that we should have had 38 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:49.560 you on more. 39 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.680 It is a mistake. I apologize on behalf. 40 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:52.959 To have him on. 41 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.000 Who specifically said don't have him on? I believe those 42 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:57.879 were his words. 43 00:01:58.239 --> 00:01:59.319 That does sound right. 44 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.680 You were you. I don't think you were my boss 45 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.599 during that last episode. I wouldn't have I don't think 46 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:06.319 I would have had you on if you were we 47 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:08.159 were still working together day job wise, I think that 48 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.120 would have been after I left. 49 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:12.159 It's probably in between the two zones. 50 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.599 Yeah, because you're coming right to us from post games now. 51 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.960 For those who haven't ye, for those who haven't might 52 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.560 not be familiar, give them the elevator, pitch. 53 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.639 Yeah, tell us about post games. What is it? 54 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:26.159 Oh? That isn't there to say? You know, it's only 55 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.199 the greatest video game podcast to ever exist in one 56 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.360 of I think only two or three that are out there. 57 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:36.439 But I am, you know, holding that torch in the darkness. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 58 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:40.479 it's like, you know, it's not so boring. No, I mean, 59 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.840 people listen to you, Mike, so they'll they'll appreciate this. 60 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.800 It's like in PR, but for video games. Every week 61 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:49.800 you get a new topic, uh, and then you get 62 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:51.560 an interview, and then you get a little bit of 63 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.439 the news, just like an NPR show. The only difference 64 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:59.360 is we've done three episodes about born games, so that's 65 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.599 you know, I'm I've gotten one hundred still not topic. 66 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.800 What's the percentage of porn game coverage? 67 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:11.080 I'm on postgames right now. We're done twenty three episodes 68 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.840 and three of them are about porn games, so that 69 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.159 equates to about like a ten mm hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.000 I'm making up for it's ten percent, that's right. I 71 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:26.680 don't know numbers. Listen, I asked you for the numbers 72 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.879 at the beginning of the show. The point is this. 73 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.560 If you are listening to this right now, just give 74 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.800 me a real favor. Hit stop, go your podcast app, 75 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:40.120 Big Post Games, subscribe, go to Patreton not gone forward, 76 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:44.919 Slash Postgames. Subscribe again, and then come back to the show. 77 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:47.000 We've got a whole lot of great show for you. 78 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.199 I'm the host. Now, welcome to fire Escape. My name 79 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:54.360 is Dan. I'm from Barbecue. 80 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.039 I thought we had a week without him, couldn't escape. Yeah, Dancy, 81 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.759 Actually we're He's here on the East coast, but he's 82 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:04.439 he's busy doing giant bomb stuff. 83 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.599 Is your oppression of Dan that he would like barbecue. 84 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.879 My impression of Dan is just any generic person that 85 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.360 I grew up with in and around Kansas City talk. 86 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.120 I don't think about Dan, actually, I just think of 87 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.160 people that could be a Dan. 88 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:28.879 Yeah, so he's kind of like a faceless native guy. 89 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:31.560 I don't know why we couldn't go get some prime 90 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.680 pickles like something like that. 91 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.399 He does talk about Joe's Barbecue often and the burnt 92 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:38.600 Ins burnt In's, oh yeah. 93 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.560 And then burnt Ins and Kansas City. You're not like 94 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.839 burnt In's everywhere else. They're actual burnt ins. It's like gristle. 95 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:47.759 It's just pure fat gristle. Yeah for free. 96 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:49.839 If you don't pronounce the e like an I, you're 97 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:54.720 not from the Midwest or Kansas specifically burnt ins. It's 98 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.279 almost it's like the difference between Australia and New Zealand. 99 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:01.120 Australia have Australians like with the cow. New Zealanders they 100 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.759 like Whiz the car. It's a huge difference between Kansas 101 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:07.639 and now that's from Flight of the Concords. There's a 102 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:11.279 big difference between Kansas and Minnesota. But yeah, Dan's on 103 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.360 the East Coast. He's doing there, doing the giant bomaiton, 104 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.920 so he could join us. But yeah, we're uh going 105 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:22.600 strong but post games. Yeah, so generally speaking, correct me if 106 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:26.800 I'm wrong. It's three acts every episode. The beginning is 107 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:29.920 the topic, second is an expert interview, and the third. 108 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.000 Is porn section. 109 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.519 The third is just porn noises, just a lot. 110 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.680 And for that one, I recommend that you don't look 111 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:38.160 the kids. 112 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.959 I do see five stars average rating. What have you 113 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:46.240 done to get this? 114 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.240 He can, he wants, but he can't be in the 115 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.240 hot seat himself. 116 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.959 I I'm just you know, I like to think that 117 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.319 I'm just that good that I earned all. However, many 118 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:11.079 of those five star reviews there are, Hey, that's not bad. 119 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.879 I agree, it's actually not too shabby. 120 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:15.399 It's not too shabby. 121 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.079 I agree. You should be very proud. 122 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.439 I am, thank you. Yeah, no, I mean, you know what, 123 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.759 it's the guests who make the show. I like to 124 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.000 think that I'm just merely a vessel for their talent. 125 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.319 Who's been good about talking about my own stuff? 126 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.800 I sound like, yeah, I know, yeah, we could tell Yeah, 127 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:38.000 just kidding, it's not that bad. Shadow Colossues. You did 128 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.240 a recent three days ago with that? Is that your 129 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.839 most recent episode? Twenty years later, Shadow the Classes still matters? 130 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.639 Yeah? Yeah. He talked with Jacob Geller, who Yeah, people, 131 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.720 I'm sure who listen is they know Jacob? He makes 132 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:52.759 video essays. But the cool thing about Jacob is he 133 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:56.439 was making video essays that nobody watched for a while, 134 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.160 and then he made one about Shadow Colosses and it 135 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.439 so many people saw it completely changed his life. A 136 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.720 fun thing about that video, though, he couldn't monetize it 137 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:09.879 because he has assumed nobody would ever see his videos, 138 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.560 so he used some Studio Ghibli music in it. But 139 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.879 a full successful video by far and you get zero dollars. 140 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:18.279 That's sad. 141 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:23.199 That's a sad state of affairs, but cool to set. 142 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.800 You're still that much love about Shadow of the Colossus 143 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:27.079 and people are that interested. 144 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:31.680 Yeah, did you all see the oral history that matt 145 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:37.120 leone did. Yeah, it's very good if you're looking to 146 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.199 read about this. Matt Leone did, Like all the oral 147 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.279 history is a polygon about Street Fighter and Final Fantasy seven, 148 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.199 and now there is one out about Shadow Classus That 149 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:49.879 is so bonkers because I feel like anytime I get 150 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:51.879 an oral history out of a game that was made 151 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:56.120 in Japan, it feels like I conjured something that just 152 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.360 should have never existed. Because I don't know about y'all, 153 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.160 but every time I trying to talk to devs in Japan, 154 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.800 it's so hard to put people to chat. 155 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.439 Yeah, there was always those like the culturally, it's like 156 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:15.759 not a good idea to talk negatively or into the problems. 157 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.319 I just did the TGS tour and I we had 158 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.120 that same issue, which is like reporters culturally are not 159 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:24.600 gonna grill you. They're not gonna they're not gonna ask 160 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.480 you spicy questions. They're not gonna push too hard, and 161 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:31.399 I think vice versa, the devs aren't gonna get into 162 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:35.159 all the dirt, and so yeah, rapolate that is quite 163 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:35.600 a feat. 164 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:40.360 Yeah. I once asked Miyamoto in a round table a 165 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.320 question about his childhood playing in caves, and I have 166 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:49.279 never felt cold chill take over the room quite as swiftly. 167 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:51.960 I think, I think you are Did you just stare 168 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:53.759 at your soul? What happened? 169 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:58.799 He stared through me, smiling, and then the true people 170 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.799 next to me were like, hey, they nobody asked me 171 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:10.879 a personal questions. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no. 172 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.960 No, I was just seeing if he was touching about. 173 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.559 Was Bowser's favorite? Did you have a favorite kid? 174 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.720 How many times have you read The Great Gatsby? I 175 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:20.720 think it's a rite of passage to ask Miyamoto about 176 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.360 his childhood spelunking outside Kyoto, Like I I've asked that 177 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.279 the question the one time I interviewed him, as well, 178 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.200 you gotta and if you know, because I interviewed people, 179 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.159 it's been I don't know what the cause has been, 180 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.399 But before Tiers of the Kingdom came out, we had 181 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:43.120 a few interviews with them with Aji Numa and hit 182 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.639 A taka Fujibayashi the director, and like that was those 183 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.039 went well. I feel like they've been gradually loosening up, 184 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:53.399 or maybe when they come to the States or the UK, 185 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:55.360 et cetera, they know that those are some questions of 186 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.600 people from like Eurogameer, piec Gamer, Polygon might be asking, 187 00:09:58.879 --> 00:09:59.879 so maybe they're prepared for it. 188 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.759 Are a bit chattier too. I've had that with Kirby 189 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:04.960 where I asked him about like, what would happen if 190 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:06.559 Kirby sucked up a really hot man? 191 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.639 Yeah? I ah, what do you say? 192 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:12.440 I think it was something like you a child, pretty 193 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:12.879 hot man? 194 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:14.799 You people whispered at you. 195 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.720 No one asks what would happen if kirk sucked up 196 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:18.440 a hot man? 197 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:19.519 Yeah? 198 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.519 But he missed the translator Japanese, but I know that 199 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.399 they kept saying macho. It's like macho Jean, And I 200 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.559 was like, you would be a very handsome person. 201 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.519 Yeah, you're right, yeah, and then you're I would love 202 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.960 it if you were so confident in your elementary Japanese 203 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.360 the time that you tried, you tried asking yourself and 204 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.639 instead you said, what would happen if Kirby sucked off 205 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:40.440 a very hot man. 206 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:45.039 I was that very hot man that would have. 207 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:45.840 Gone really well. 208 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.600 Uh, Kirby days ca. 209 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.799 I'll see myself out sem awesome. 210 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.799 Yeah, Shower Glasses is still really good. There's a question 211 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.600 later about specific older games that I think we have 212 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.919 an email section. I love Shadow Classes. That remake was awesome. 213 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.200 I'm glad Jacob geller Is has a wider audience now 214 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:11.360 because his videos are great. 215 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:14.039 Red because he was on my podcast. 216 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:17.960 No, because of the shadow of the Don't Flatter Yourself. 217 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.480 Because of his association and connection to you. 218 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.399 Yeah, finally I'm being a moment. I'm making break from 219 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.360 the most popular video game. 220 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:30.399 Yeah, the plant Effect. 221 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:32.879 That's what happened when Donkey came on my show. Have 222 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:35.600 you heard about this guy? Yeah? 223 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.399 Half have you heard of this guy? 224 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:40.840 It was crazy he was on my show and then 225 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:43.120 people were like, why is he on this guy's show? 226 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.399 You know what is really fun is when really humbling 227 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.039 you do an interview with Donkey and I was like, oh, 228 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.200 you know what, I should just throw this on YouTube, 229 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:55.639 just like have the file there. Yeah, have like a 230 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.159 YouTube channel. I've like made three episodes of this thing, 231 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.919 and also like who am I in? All the comments 232 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.600 are like, how the hell did this YouTube channel with 233 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.559 eight followers get to interview Donkey? And it's like, that's 234 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:13.919 a great question. Your career disappears the second you lose 235 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:14.440 your job. 236 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.960 Very good to know all these five star reviews, show them. 237 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:20.919 Look at them, look at them. 238 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:30.799 You can't buy those. I mean in theory, y'all. 239 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:35.279 I love video games. I love chat with y'all. I 240 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.320 may have made a little more coffee than I expected 241 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.639 to make, and I'm definitely feeling it. I'm just letting 242 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:42.120 you know that. 243 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:45.440 It's usually the opposite for us. We usually make more 244 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:49.639 too much like alcohol. No, yeah, actually I've I've been 245 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.879 doing that less these days. For the show. I'm sticking to. 246 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:57.679 This is a cinnamon tea, cinnamon orange tea. Wow? Good, Yeah, 247 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.000 what is it? I'm so god, I'm so noble. 248 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.320 And South Park impressions. 249 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.960 No, no, you're coming on. This is a serious episode. 250 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:14.039 Dan's gone that I am doing this with two losers. 251 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.120 I'm the only drinking. 252 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.519 Oh You're no, I'm going in a beer. Don't worry. 253 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.360 I'm like two seconds, I might crack. 254 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.320 Hardy starts to talking about some game that I don't like. 255 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:29.519 Yeah, which is strategy in the game section. I'm cracking 256 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:29.919 a beer. 257 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:32.919 That's the only way I can get through it. We 258 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.759 won't have what I'll go ahead, go ahead. 259 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:37.799 I mean it wasn't important. I was gonna tell you 260 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:39.480 that I'm in the beer. I'm ment guit. It's like 261 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.759 it tastes like you know, wood top of a tree 262 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.759 like that. Oh nice, pretty good? Yeah, that sounds great 263 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:51.279 would come off of It's like a cherry wood, is 264 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.320 what it. It's one of those things where like, oh, 265 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:57.200 this was made by running wheat and barley over just 266 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:01.159 dead trees, like they're a lot that sounds seasonal. 267 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.960 There's a lot of like bourbons rise these days that 268 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:09.519 use like used sherry casks or wine barrels, and I 269 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.679 hate all of them. No, some of them are good. 270 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.240 I don't like to use wine barrel bourbons. Those usually 271 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.679 come out gross. Like there's one I forget what it was. 272 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.480 I got it as a gift and it was like, oh, 273 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.519 used pino noir barrels and like that, there's not a 274 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:26.639 flavor I want in my bourbon no And I love 275 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.000 pino noir, but I don't want like neutral barrel like 276 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:31.600 four to five year old barrels. 277 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:37.000 What if they made like coke inside of used wine barrels. 278 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.399 You think that would tastes good. 279 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:39.519 That's how they make carry coke. 280 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:42.279 It is not. 281 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:46.440 No, I'm just kidding, it probably would be good. 282 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.720 Mike, dead cells things pretty hard. 283 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.279 You have to really look dead eyes to know that 284 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:53.320 he's fucking with you. 285 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:55.639 My beady little eyes. Mary loves to. 286 00:14:55.639 --> 00:15:00.039 Say, oh, like the eyes of a dull Yeah, I 287 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:00.720 know that. 288 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.919 Well, what's new with you? Mary? We've been fucking plants, 289 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:08.960 been hogging the spotlight for a day. Now, what are 290 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.039 you doing? You're in bikini bottom again. 291 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:11.759 Stuff. 292 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.639 I'm in the same place I've been for eight years. 293 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.000 I'm at Twitch headquarters. It's just like another travel trip. 294 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.639 I will like just openly say I've had so much travel, and. 295 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.639 A lot of it has been rewarding. 296 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.559 But generally speaking, when you travel three out of four 297 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.879 weeks of the month like no train, I don't want 298 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:38.000 to travel anymore. Like I think I might be done visually. 299 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:39.759 But I will say I had a great trip. I 300 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.399 went to Ohio, which is where I'm from, and I 301 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:44.039 had that I. 302 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.600 Had a great trip. I went to Ohio. No, I'm joking. 303 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:49.320 There's a lot of fun in Ohio. 304 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:52.600 I know, I know, it's a callback. It's a callback 305 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.639 I've been to. I've had some fun in Ohio as well. 306 00:15:57.399 --> 00:15:58.480 Where are you from, Ohio? 307 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.799 I'm from but I okay, okay, Sinatti, but I don't 308 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:07.639 care for since. But I lived in Columbus for most 309 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.480 of my childhood and I got the opportunity to speak 310 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.480 to a bunch of middle school students from the middle 311 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.120 school I went to, which is really. 312 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.919 Oh my gosh, yeah, and I loved it. 313 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.080 R that was worth it because it was like it 314 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:20.840 was basically I was talking all these people about like 315 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.960 possible careers in STEM, which I think is a stretch 316 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:28.200 for me to say, but technically, games and games, media 317 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:29.559 is within. 318 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:35.000 You do have IGV lights behind you, idea and women 319 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:35.480 in stuff. 320 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.720 Women you're yeah, come on, guys, I'm an ally And. 321 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:48.960 I talked to mostly girls about careers and STEM and 322 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.679 it was the funniest thing I think I have done 323 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.600 in a hot minute. This is like, just to be clear, 324 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.360 this is like seven hundred. It was like nine hundred 325 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:01.120 students total. Like in an auditorium, it's nine to thirty 326 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:08.319 in the morning, right, They're tired, they are not super focused, 327 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:10.839 and the lady who's going to introduce me is like, hey, 328 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:13.799 just you know, you're probably not gonna want to talk 329 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.680 for very long because these kids will not sit there 330 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:20.759 and listen to you for probably more than ten minutes. 331 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.039 And I said, got it. I'm gonna keep it real, 332 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:25.440 buttoned up. I'm going to keep it real short and sweet. 333 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:27.359 And she was like, all right, well, you know, good luck. 334 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.480 You know, like try and change your voice a lot, 335 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:30.599 you know, get them excited. 336 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.240 And I'm like, okay. She like gets up there and 337 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:34.279 does a little intro. 338 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.440 These kids are like not paying attention at all, and 339 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.880 she like introduces me and I stand on this stage 340 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:42.920 and this is obvious, this is a stretch, but like 341 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.960 I need to get these kids attention, and I said, goo, 342 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.279 here in this auditorium knows who Kai Sanad is. 343 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.599 And they all started screaming. They started freaking. 344 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:55.720 They in him on to the stage. 345 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.079 I hope not, because that did knock her. 346 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:02.000 He was not there, and they started losing their goddamn 347 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:06.359 minds and they were they were locked in one. 348 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:10.160 And I was like, cool, that's what wwitches. 349 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.039 Oh anyway, I'm Mary, that's nothing. 350 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:15.640 I dropped the mic and I walked off the set 351 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:18.440 and I talked for like a little bit about why 352 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.480 they might want to get into game design, audio engineering. 353 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:22.920 You know. 354 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:24.720 I tried to like stretch. 355 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:27.359 It beyond what it is that we do, because games 356 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.240 in general is a really exciting job, not just games media. 357 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.000 We're talking about games, but just literally like game design 358 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:34.920 is a really fascinating and they would need to start 359 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:36.200 learning coding at that stage. 360 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.119 So trying to like spark their imaginations. But the second 361 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:40.440 I think I said kay. 362 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:44.160 They were just basically like, I too wish to play 363 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:48.680 Fortnite full time. And I was like, oh no, I've 364 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.279 created seven hundred little little monsters. 365 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.960 And I just love this move of going off me 366 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:56.440 and like. 367 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:05.400 Hey and by who knows the bond James, I know, great, 368 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:06.599 neither of them. 369 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.880 We're gonna be here today. 370 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.079 It's a really bold move. That's a Michael Scott ass 371 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:15.519 kind of thing to do. Yeah, but if you're intem 372 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.920 I'm a fucking brain surgeon. Speaking of kids, I'm on 373 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.960 the I'm on the fourth season of the Wire, Chris. 374 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:24.000 I've been telling them I'm rewatching the Wire for the 375 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.079 third time. Season four. The education sy all the kids. 376 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.839 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not the five is the journalism. 377 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:34.160 Yeah, the serial killer one, which is like definitely not 378 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.279 the best but the only always. 379 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:39.079 Yeah, yeah, the perfect show. 380 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.519 But no, the show's still really good. I bounce back 381 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.720 and forth between what the best show ever made is? 382 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:47.680 In What Breaking That? Madmen? 383 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.759 I go back back and forth between like the Sopranos, 384 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.519 mad Men, the Wire. Although I will say, and I'm 385 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.480 trying to think of anything more recent than this, I 386 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:04.160 really really they like Watchmen, like, oh yeah, just as 387 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.400 a more recent one that I think could potentially be 388 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.359 on the Mount Rushmore that we don't give as much 389 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.960 credit because it's not like twenty five years old yet. 390 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.880 Yeah, I've already seen the critic No trying Jay Sherman, 391 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:17.839 the animated TV show. 392 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:18.880 Yeah, I saw that. 393 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:21.799 I don't. I don't like being a critic, let alone 394 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.160 watching shows about them. 395 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.079 That would that be on your Mount Rushmore? 396 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.240 Chris, Oh No, I was just asking if I had 397 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:31.680 seen it. 398 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.799 Oh what prompted that because I was criticizing shows? 399 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:37.480 No, No, no, I'm just curious. Just you message, we're 400 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.000 talking about TV. You might like it. 401 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:41.720 Oh, I don't know, I haven't seen it. Uh are 402 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:42.119 you watching? 403 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:43.440 Of all time? 404 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:46.119 I told you. I've had a lot of coffee. It's 405 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.079 a good show. I love. There's a lot of referential humorage, 406 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.160 like nineteen ninety s Oh great when I was three, Yeah, 407 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.680 fucking car partund Circle in Liverpool, New York. 408 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:58.559 Random shows. 409 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:03.440 You literally then this to the kids. You were like, hey, 410 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.680 you're seen this person and then I try it and 411 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:09.039 suddenly it's off the table. 412 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:14.960 Yeah, sell it. You have to really sell it. Also. 413 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.559 That would also you know allude that you were saying 414 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:23.200 that the critic is the Lebron James of television shows. 415 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:28.440 Before its time, So true, you know that's that is untouchable, 416 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.960 John Love. It was the biggest on TV. 417 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.680 Imagine if I was covered in that and I said, 418 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.279 who here knows Seinfeld and fucking crickets And I said, well, 419 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:42.839 in its time it was. 420 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:43.480 It was. 421 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:47.039 Fucking stupid kids. 422 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:50.480 Do you all remember that in the mash that was crazy? 423 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.359 Everybody was watching. 424 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.839 We lost the war spoiler Yeah, oh no, no, no, sorry, 425 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:01.599 that was Korea, not Vietnam. Was Korea? Or it was Korea? 426 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.640 Yes, right, the movie was Vietnam and the film or 427 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:07.640 the TV series with Korea, I believe. So. 428 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:10.839 My dad liked the show, but like everything else my dad, Like, 429 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:12.200 when I was young, I hated it, but now I 430 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:13.400 love a lot of that. So maybe I need to 431 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:14.759 go back and watch mash Mike. 432 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.119 How are you? How is your work in STEM going? 433 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:23.279 It's good? U have a few breakthroughs. Uh No, it's good. 434 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:23.880 It's going well. 435 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:25.440 Ave lives around here. 436 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:30.799 Yeah, it's all. It's always funny when uh so, my 437 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:34.119 wife is an architect. I guess I could say, Amanda, 438 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:36.839 you both know her, it's always like feeling through it, 439 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.240 so it's funny, like her job is making sure buildings 440 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:42.519 don't murder a ton of people by collapsing. And then 441 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:44.960 mine's just like it's always funny when I've had a 442 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.720 rough day, just like in video games at all. And 443 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:50.079 then she's like, yeah, she to her credit. She's never 444 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.519 like discredits me. But then I'm like, anyway, how was 445 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.079 your day? She's like, oh, this is fine. Then she 446 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.720 walks me through what happened. I was like, oh, I 447 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:57.759 guess the stakes are not that high in video games. 448 00:22:58.079 --> 00:22:58.680 Yeah. 449 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.559 We have to remind ourselves that all the time, right, 450 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.839 like that this is on our worst days. 451 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:08.759 It's actually like a functional job. It is an inch show. 452 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:12.079 Wild Space be in which is why it's so coveted 453 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:14.720 and probably why we're allowed to go through so much 454 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.039 trauma because they know we'll deal with it. 455 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.839 But it's not as bad as working in the er. 456 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:24.319 I know. 457 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:26.119 To be clear, none of this is like my job. 458 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:27.720 I'm just saying in general. When I tell her about 459 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:29.559 like the video game industry stuff, she's like, oh, that 460 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:30.359 that sounds rough. 461 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:37.039 And then question, have you asked her why the architects 462 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.599 who keep building buildings in New York are not good? 463 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.400 Oh, she'll be the first to ask. She's the first 464 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:44.880 to say it. 465 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.200 It's crazy. They're all just they're all set to just 466 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:49.799 fall down. I think every time I move with the 467 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:51.759 New York Times, it's like, oh, another one of those 468 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:54.279 buildings that we built. It turns out that it's fifteen 469 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.599 feet leaning the wrong way each year. 470 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.039 More yeah, or it looks like Baratt door, uh, construction 471 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.640 materials than it is the design, because I heard that 472 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:05.240 like like back in the day. 473 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:06.119 So my house is like. 474 00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:09.359 One hundred and fifteen years old and it's made with 475 00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:12.759 like one hundred and fifty year old trees. Like the 476 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:18.079 wood is like so unbelievably old that like it was 477 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.799 rock solid back then whereas like now they don't have 478 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.039 those those trees are gone and like there's none of 479 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:23.960 that wood left. 480 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:24.920 And I think that. 481 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.559 They would love that excuse for the big buildings. But 482 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.640 from what I can tell, every story is like, yeah, 483 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:30.759 they just missed a zero. 484 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:35.599 Yeah, like materials. I mean, I Amanda listens to the 485 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:39.000 show every episode. She's probably like gonna tear her hair out. 486 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:43.599 I'm sure bad materials absolutely come into play. Like sometimes 487 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.119 I hear from like past job she's had, she comes 488 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:47.839 back and she's like, oh yeah, someone I'll just like 489 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:49.799 a supplier fucked this up and gave us the complete 490 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.400 wrong thing, which of course they replace it. But no, Yeah, 491 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:55.279 bad design is very much a thing. 492 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.720 But if it's calculations, should we go back to the abacus? 493 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.039 Mmmm, that's a good question. That's a real STEM question. 494 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.440 Maybe you should be in STEM. 495 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:12.599 Everybody questions me, but I'm the one who asks real 496 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.839 questions around here brand the advocates. 497 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.559 My favorite thing is there's a building on the west 498 00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:23.359 side of New York. I want to say, like above 499 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.559 Hudson Yards. It is a triangular one plant. You probably 500 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.000 what I'm talking about about your ads? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mary, 501 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:31.039 you probably saw in the news too, because I want 502 00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.240 to say, three four years ago something like that. Uh, 503 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.279 they Dorito's got ad space, and by that I mean 504 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:42.039 they got the right to project a giant cheese dorito 505 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.559 on the building, which is already shaped like a cheese derito, 506 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.079 like a dorito. And it's funnier when I learn more 507 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:51.279 about the designer, the architect of the buildings, name's b 508 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.559 arc Angles. Apparently he's like a very. 509 00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.640 H I'm sorry, Klue Postrios. One second, you're telling me 510 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.119 that some that he made a triangle building is named Angles. 511 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.160 E N G L S. Yeah, okay, but close when 512 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.480 you say it out loud, good, it's like a. It's 513 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:12.480 like a it's like a guy named Matt Edge made 514 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:16.400 a square building. No, it's just funny because apparently that 515 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:22.279 guy has really made His name was Dorito. It was 516 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:23.440 very full circle. 517 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.400 All right, Well, it looks good. 518 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.240 It's just funny to know that some of these architects 519 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.400 are very very like the smell of their own farts. 520 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:38.400 And then one day, though, who's to stop Dorito's from 521 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.240 getting a hold of their design and using it to 522 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:41.720 their advantage? 523 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:49.480 True, yeah, brilliant engineering. I mean, what better design? Structure 524 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.920 is there, then the pyramids have been doing great, is 525 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.480 all I'm saying. We got all these buildings that are 526 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.839 off by like a couple zeros, and they're leaning fifteen. 527 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.519 It doesn't lean a fucking pyramid. 528 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:04.480 That's true. That's not true. 529 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.839 I think structurally possible for pyramid to lean. 530 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:09.279 Yeah, I think you're right. 531 00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:11.640 I think it already is leaning. But there's four triangles 532 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:12.880 leaning into one another. 533 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:14.359 Well, write this down. 534 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.359 We need to back triangle buildings because they're obviously killing it. 535 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.359 Mary, where was all this material when you were talking 536 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:20.960 to the kids. 537 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.759 I only needed one line. All I needed to do 538 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.519 is say, kaisana and you know what else? He truly 539 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.559 is in my mount rushmore of streamers and maybe in 540 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:35.039 basically just content creators in general. But like, it was 541 00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:37.880 so funny to me how much all the kids, every 542 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.519 kid was freaking out. When I stepped down from the stage, 543 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.279 multiple parents came up to me and said, I obviously 544 00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:46.720 got to. 545 00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:47.559 Look this guy up. 546 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:54.799 I realized, parents do not know who these people are real. 547 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.400 There is a huge knowledge gap of like what the 548 00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.160 kids are into. 549 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:05.640 Parents just understand. And it's true, it's so true. I actually, 550 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.480 when I was coming up with the Postgames of Soul 551 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.480 podcasts that you've already subscribed to you and thank you 552 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.720 for turing the Patreon. I was thinking about, like, oh, 553 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.279 is there a business that's just literally, Hey, you only 554 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:21.519 have twenty minutes this week where you're going to give 555 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.119 a shit about learning whatever your kid is into. I'm 556 00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.759 going to explain it in twenty minutes, get out of 557 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.400 your way. But you're going to come away from this 558 00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.079 knowing what the hell your kid is talking about, because 559 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:36.480 it's nuts. Whenever I talk to fellow parents and the 560 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:39.880 questions I get, I'm like, we are at the basics here, 561 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.160 like we are, we have barely stepped onto the beach, 562 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.160 let alone into the ocean. It's brutal. I think that's 563 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.920 the good thing. I will say this about all the 564 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.839 parents who are listening already. You were parents because video 565 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.119 games are right at the edge of everything. They're always 566 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.599 like light years ahead of every other type of parent roadblocks. 567 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.400 Games are wild and you have to be on top 568 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.680 of it. You want to get these youths attention, I 569 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.480 will say, just because you brought it up. 570 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.079 I am not going to spend twenty minutes out of. 571 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.960 My day like researching the youths. But I do subscribe 572 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:22.079 to a sub stack called after School Casey Lewis, and 573 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.799 that's what that is about. It's just straight up like 574 00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.839 I'm going to talk about the youths and what they're into. 575 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:28.920 And it's like how I learned about like the fact 576 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.920 that like young people twenty one and up, but like 577 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.720 young people are doing buzzball parties where they're like having 578 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.640 like fancy dinners but they're serving buzzballs as the drink. 579 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.759 And I was like, that's real, okay, genius, I like it. 580 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.880 But they talk about like teens too, and like, you know, 581 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:48.519 just just like what the kids are up to at 582 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.960 any given time, it's usually like fifteen to twenty five. 583 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.279 I'll and I think it's like really helpful for me 584 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.279 to be like, I don't know what the what the 585 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:56.799 fifteen year olds are into. 586 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.640 So yeah, anyway, gotta know I have to you know, 587 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:02.440 how else am I going to win them over? At 588 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.960 nine thirty am on a school day. It's so limiting. 589 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.720 The options that I had to win them over were 590 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.039 so slim. I mean it was kind. 591 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.640 Of like I was like a football star. There was 592 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.799 like ten seconds left on the clock and they were like, 593 00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.920 we need you to score this touchdown. 594 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.359 They call them very long pass and the end zone. 595 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:25.480 It's called the hell Mary. 596 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:31.720 It was a hail me and I did it. They 597 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.359 some kids did ask for my autograph. 598 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.920 I didn't want to let you guys know, and I said, 599 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.799 I just want to be clear that I am not famous, 600 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.400 and they said close enough, And I. 601 00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.119 Wait, genuine question their bags? Are you are? Are you 602 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.359 using that as euphemism for like a photo with them, 603 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.799 or like, do kids actually ask for autographs. 604 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.279 Again my autograph. 605 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.920 Because they're too young autographs? But that's cool. 606 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.319 I like that my selfies. And they called me one girl. 607 00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.119 I'm like, I said they there was like seven hundred kids, 608 00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.160 but one girl called me a battie. And I have 609 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.119 to tell you there's no compliment like a schoolgirl calling 610 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:04.680 you a battye. 611 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:05.559 That made me. 612 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.680 How do you like? How do you I find it funny. 613 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:10.559 I don't. 614 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.680 Bad intro on it. 615 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.880 I don't even understand exactly what a baddie is. 616 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.640 I can only assume that it means a cool lady. 617 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.720 Yes, I walked away from that situation thinking I was 618 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.160 like God's gift to the middle school. 619 00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:32.759 That's what I've always called you. 620 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:35.599 I was like, I've done it. I couldn't believe it, 621 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:37.640 but I don't. I don't think they're going to. 622 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.680 Be like holding up those uh autographs and reselling them 623 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.000 any times soon. They're probably in the garbage now. But 624 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:46.920 I felt really amazing walking away from it. 625 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.920 Those children got like I would love to be a 626 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.000 fly on the wall when they get back to their 627 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.000 their home after that school day, trying to explain who 628 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.319 spoke to them in the auditorium. Oh, this woman in stem, 629 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.839 this battie, she's again God's gift to middle schoolers. She 630 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.759 knows Kai Sanat he bailed less than it. Do you 631 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:10.160 know him? 632 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:11.920 And I was like, I know of him? And they 633 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:17.480 were like, sign everything. 634 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.880 You signed my binder, so I'm. 635 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.599 Over thirty and you know of him. I got you 636 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:24.279 to find this. 637 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:29.200 What a battie, they said. I said, yes, that is me. 638 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.680 I'm sure you killed it. It sounds like you did. 639 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.359 And you signed some autographs. I've never signed an autograph. 640 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:38.759 I would love to you one day. 641 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.519 Really, so it's very rare, but I would say once 642 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:47.359 a year someone will recognize me from game Spot and 643 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.200 or Giant Bomb and or fire Escape and ask for. 644 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.519 A photo and that feels. 645 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.079 Really fucking amazing, and it's a wonderful experience. 646 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.039 But it's very, very. 647 00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.559 The best when you're not an actual thing this I 648 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.440 am not had this happen in a while, mostly because 649 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.640 when I went to Polygon, when I became an editor 650 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.079 in cheap it's like a you just disappear into the 651 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.119 world job and uh, and now it feels a little 652 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.960 bit more. I exist. I was in New York last 653 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.240 week walking through like random ass in your park slope 654 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.559 and as I'm looking for the restaurant on my map, 655 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:26.119 somebody just comes up to me. I'm like, hey, your plan. 656 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:31.039 I was like yeah, and you and they're like, you know, 657 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.759 you're just a great person. And I just wanted to 658 00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:35.599 say that, but I'm going to go to dinner. I 659 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.720 was like, that's great. That's the night. Like, is there 660 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.920 any greater thing anybody could randomly say to you? I 661 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.279 was like, oh, man, I was. I was lighting high 662 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.240 the rest of the trip. That was the best. 663 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.240 That's such a sweet thing for someone to say to 664 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:50.519 you that you're a great. 665 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.960 Person, you know, especially since I'm not. 666 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.640 As far as they know, you are a saint and 667 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.880 that's that must make you a christ. Last time someone 668 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.880 recognized me, which was at PAX, which is like such 669 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.119 a reasonable place to be found, and they said, I 670 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.719 love how much shit you give Dan, and I said thank. 671 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.480 You so so much, and to me not away from 672 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.119 that situation them thinking. 673 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.440 That I was a good person, but that I had 674 00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:19.599 at least harmed Dan, and that. 675 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:26.679 Was they were Yet again people recognized Dan as the 676 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.800 man who broke his thumb in a cheese bath. 677 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.559 That's his claim the fame you are you aware of 678 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:36.039 what happened? 679 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.480 Show? All of the episode? Sometimes good because I love it. 680 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:45.880 People do say that. 681 00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:52.920 I think the cheese bath was due and it's not 682 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.400 my fault that post cheese bath during the cleaning. 683 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.239 Phase, Oh my god, cleaning that took a while. 684 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.800 It was vile. 685 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.079 We had to clean quite a quite a lot of 686 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:07.960 mac and cheese out of a full bath time. 687 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:09.639 It was so goofy. 688 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.159 There are you overcouked it? It was not Al dente 689 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:14.920 is my one criticism of the prank. 690 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.280 So many questions, I'm not meant to be in the kitchen. 691 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.880 I'm a pattie and stem. 692 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.239 The funniest part of that prank also, the byproduct was 693 00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.599 trying to find normal pans in Dan's kitchen, of which 694 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.599 I think there was like one we had. We had 695 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:37.440 your pots and pans are just like, yeah, it's just scavenge. 696 00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:38.519 For them, is it all? 697 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.280 Just like I think that's different now to like warm 698 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.360 up like a burrito from I think they fleshed it 699 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.320 out more since, but at the time it was. 700 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.000 Dan courring with a dowel rod. 701 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.719 They don't have items to cook with because I just 702 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.840 think that most of their items were like Dan was 703 00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.679 doing a lot of like microwaveable meals, which is totally 704 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.199 understandable for his lifestyle and what he was doing. 705 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.360 I just couldn't find I couldn't find a spoon, I think. 706 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:10.440 I think, yeah, I think it's I want to say 707 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:14.079 that he's cooked more since I think so he had 708 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.440 that he had that that stretch where he was bragging 709 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.760 about learning to cook and he was doing the thing 710 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.679 where he was catching up with the rest of us 711 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.000 and wanted like props for it, and I had to 712 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.280 indulge him. But yeah, I think he knows how to 713 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.800 cook a few things now, so it's good for him. 714 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.719 But he maybe he has more pots, But that god, 715 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.039 that cleanup was was annoying. But yeah, he broke his 716 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:40.119 thumb or something finger sprain his thumb. This is a question, 717 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:46.880 I know. 718 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:48.079 There's so many questions about like where the cheese goes? 719 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.199 Uh huh, you mean straight to the ass? 720 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:54.280 Oh? In the tube? 721 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:57.320 Okay, that's free phrase your question. 722 00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.960 Do you mean in the tub when we cleaned it up? 723 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.320 Yeah? And on the body in the top. 724 00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.039 He I don't know. I guess down the drain we 725 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:09.760 hose it down. 726 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:10.960 Is that hypothetical? 727 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.559 Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's purely hypothetical. 728 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.400 If I was to be in a tub of cheese, 729 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:19.599 where the cheese goes? 730 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.519 I mean, I feel much worth discussing. That's with you 731 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.880 there versus Dan his body is I. 732 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.039 Think it could be anyone. 733 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.039 His body has been given to the public for that 734 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.320 theoretical experiments. Okay, I think. 735 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:37.800 And he's in a pub. 736 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.800 In the top and it's full of cheese, sure like 737 00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:46.199 it does it go underneath the fingernails? Does it? Does it? 738 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.440 We're not Does it congeal everywhere? 739 00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.800 I think he absorbed some of the dairy too, not 740 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:52.800 that there's real milk and belveda, but yeah, you know, 741 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.280 you're he was. He was glowing. The next day. He 742 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:56.119 looked wonderful. 743 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:57.639 Have you heard of wine baths? 744 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:03.360 Wine bags are legit and people pay money spa where 745 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.119 you sit in a top full of wine. 746 00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:06.119 Mike, I've thought about you. 747 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.800 I've seen these ads, and basically there's health benefits to 748 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.920 bathing and wine. I suspect to some degree there is 749 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:18.280 something that would alter of you when you bathe in cheese. 750 00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:19.960 I just don't think it would be beneficial. 751 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.559 Do you worry that it would be a little bit 752 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.599 like a fond dou pot, like a giant human sized 753 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:27.360 fond dow pot, and then that we would like dip 754 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.159 dan in it, and then we'd have to eat them 755 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:29.840 piece by piece. 756 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.920 I just consider cheese such a variation of butter, and 757 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.239 I just think when you roll crisco all over the 758 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.519 human body, it's usually not like something that makes it 759 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:40.840 more supple or soft. I feel like it's something that 760 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.239 would like make it break out. 761 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.360 And I've not heard of wine bats before, I believe 762 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:45.679 it or not. 763 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:47.760 Dude, you got to look them up. They have them 764 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:49.400 in Ay everywhere. Come visit me. 765 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:51.639 Yeah, like in Japan too, don't they have the at 766 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.119 the saunas? Like there's don't have specialty baths? 767 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:57.760 Dump whole bottles in there, and apparently you know, I 768 00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:59.920 suppose like to some degree, it's just meant to be 769 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.000 so good for your skin. But I was wondering if 770 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.880 you'd get a little drunk, because you're like silently sure, 771 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:05.880 but I don't. 772 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.840 Know, it's not you're boothing it. You'd be absorbing some 773 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:09.599 to the skin a bit too, I think, and like 774 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.840 some parts for your skin's not super thic, Like. 775 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.719 How can you be sure that nobody took a pass 776 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.480 in the wine? 777 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.519 Well, I think you get your own point. 778 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.239 It's going to be that's so much wine. Yeah, for real, 779 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:23.880 that's so much wine. 780 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.719 Wait, all right, let me look up how much? Okay, 781 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.320 what is a what is the volume of a typical 782 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.519 bath tub? In millileters? Not interested in AI mode? Fuck off? 783 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.840 Seven fifty MILLI leaders? No? Wait? Sorry? Uh in mill 784 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.800 leaders or not? Say leaders? Christ makes more sense? 785 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.840 Ball parking it? Seven bottles? Will do you do you think? 786 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.639 Seven? Well, you're still a tub. 787 00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.039 I would say that if I put seven bottles in 788 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:55.960 a bucket and you sat in it, you'd be like, 789 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:57.039 I'm in a tub of wine. 790 00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:57.519 Uh uh? 791 00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:58.880 If I in a bucket? 792 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.519 Yeah, in a bucket, yeah, didn't a bucket, but a bathtub. 793 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:03.079 That married wowl. 794 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:05.719 You're gonna put me in a bucket? 795 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.800 Leaders, So am a normal bathtub? 796 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.679 Average, it's decaded, this is a luxury. It's I have 797 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.360 random bottles of yellow tail and I'm putting them in 798 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.360 a bucket, and then I'm making you exclusion to the bucket. 799 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:23.119 I'm a woman in stem our engineered this battie. 800 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.039 This is modestly priced wine bucket. 801 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.280 Okay, a typical bathtub. 802 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.960 But I was just thinking of your finance. 803 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.159 I appreciate it. Thank you. I realized that I was 804 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.639 paying for my own punishment. 805 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.360 Okay, I'm not the best with math, so I'm gonna 806 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.679 do rattle some off and hopefully it's okay. So that 807 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.239 typical bathtub holds between one hundred and thirty one hundred 808 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.519 and eighty liters of water. One leader is one thousand 809 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.239 milli leaders, an average A bottle of wine is seven 810 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.880 hundred fifty mili leaders. Unless you're talking about like magnums 811 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:57.079 or jerobombs or nebukinnesssers and stuff. Let's say it's a 812 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:01.480 normal bottle seven hundred fifty miters, so a hundred thirty 813 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.880 times a thousand one hundred thirty thousand MILLI leaders, how 814 00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.000 many what's one hundred thirty. 815 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.519 Eighty bottles of wine would take. 816 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:10.000 To fill bath? 817 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.440 Touch fucking flew over there? 818 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:13.239 I was. 819 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.760 I did the work, and he got He knew what 820 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.880 equations us because I got there. That's how math works. 821 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.599 Stem Mary thinks math is just having an answer ready 822 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:27.440 to go. Of wine would be fine for a wind bath. 823 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.719 The type of wine and the mill leaders within that 824 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:31.039 type of. 825 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.280 I didn't say the type of wine. We're not, although 826 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:34.840 I am curious what kind of wine they use for 827 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:36.360 these baths. Is it red? 828 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.000 It's got it? It's red in the phone, Oh. 829 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.639 Yeah, there's always Do you imagine if it was white? 830 00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:45.320 It would just a big pissed bath. Yeah, Oh dude. 831 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.800 Here I am in my shirt in eate bath, and yeah. 832 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.119 I take a shabble bath any day of the week. 833 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.920 It would be. I would just like dunking myself whoops, 834 00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:58.719 and then just chugging on. 835 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.800 Oh whoops. 836 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.320 Oh what I fell again. Oh my god, I'm oh 837 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.920 my god, I'm drowning in this chapline. Oh my god, 838 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.400 Someone tell Mary you do get drunk doing this And 839 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:14.880 it's totally through my skin and my butt, not my mouth. 840 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.519 And that's that's what they called me in college. Yeah, 841 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:22.920 I'll have to look these wine bass up. I don't 842 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.400 want one. 843 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.119 For the record, I'm not interested. 844 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.039 Yeah, I go to go to one of these spas 845 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.920 and then ask what vintage it is. It just be 846 00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:36.039 the biggest prick in the world. 847 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.079 Check out Mary's Wine Buckets because we have really good deals. 848 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.679 On you sitting in a bucket of yellowtail wine. 849 00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:52.000 I see one first seven to take to take a 850 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:52.840 wine bath for. 851 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:58.039 On That sounds expensive, your, Yeah. 852 00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:02.519 Is expensive. It's called veno therapy. Popped there in like 853 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:03.559 ten years ago. 854 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.639 Oh, rape seed oil. 855 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.960 Okay, interesting, like actually going down this rabbit hole you brought. 856 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:14.400 I did I think that? 857 00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:18.960 When Walmart came up as one of the options, great, I. 858 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:22.559 Mean that's I need my wine therapy And it's like 859 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.320 on all their towels in their kitchen. 860 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.599 Liked it, and yeah, it's a it's a bath bomb, 861 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.119 it says wine time. 862 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:30.760 Yeah. 863 00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.719 I love cooking with wine sometimes I even put it 864 00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:43.719 in the food. All this fucking dumb ass glasses that 865 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.159 you buy on Amazon. 866 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.599 I don't think so that's what you mean. 867 00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.920 I don't think so, bro, I don't think so bro, 868 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.079 I didn't go get my I'm gonna go get my my, 869 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:57.159 my wooden cask beer. 870 00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.639 Yeah yeah, you guys talk about video games. 871 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.639 Oh yeah, I get my beer beer. 872 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.480 That's that's how we break for games. So we're breaking now. Okay, yeah, 873 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.440 like five minutes, two three, come, all right, let's talk 874 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.280 about video games and hopefully Mary's computer doesn't blow up 875 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.360 or whatever just happened. If it does, and she sounds 876 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:18.039 weird the rest of the episodes because we switched over 877 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.920 to some backup audio. All you all the audio nerds, 878 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.119 and the comments like this doesn't sound as crisp as 879 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.719 it usually does. You fucking deal with it, I Mary, 880 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.079 speaking of scary stuff. 881 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:30.800 What's up? 882 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.960 You played Silent Hill? F? 883 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.239 It's my favorite time of year. 884 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:40.519 First of all, sober, Why where does the F come from? 885 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:42.639 Is there like an in universe explanation for it? 886 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:43.880 I don't know. 887 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.880 I I don't think I actually know the answer to 888 00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:49.639 that question. What I will say is that this is 889 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:54.519 completely different than every other Silent Hill in terms of like, 890 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:55.920 it's a totally different. 891 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.280 Same universe, just in Japan, right. 892 00:44:58.239 --> 00:44:59.000 It's in Japan. 893 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:04.000 You are like school girl, you know, with your with 894 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.280 your baddy friends. It's a very different environment, and I 895 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.679 wonder if they just added f so that you weren't like, 896 00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.079 am I going to be playing as the same traditional 897 00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.559 characters in Silent Hill, like you're not in Silent Hill? 898 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.559 It's probably one. 899 00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.000 Actually, really quick before we go on, Yeah, if you 900 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.760 could do an exercise with me that all you have 901 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:25.280 a pin in the paper nearby? 902 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:28.840 Yeah, well no, but I have a pen. 903 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.280 Yeah, I can do it. Okay, looks like looks like 904 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.039 you've got it. Great, great, great. I just want you 905 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.800 to write this down for me. Okay, Okay, are you ready, Mary, 906 00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.920 I'm ready? Okay. Oh is there like a clever n 907 00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:44.440 I just want to write this down Silent Hill? Yeah, 908 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:52.039 f yeah, art, okay, okay. Now I want you to 909 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.519 hold it up to the camera so that we can 910 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:58.679 uh Now, it appears that you're a Silent Hill fart. 911 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.280 Don't Mary. I don't think you're listening to what you 912 00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:04.000 said to do. 913 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:08.360 I can't believe I wasted my lipliner to do this. 914 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:10.199 Is your handwriting always that bad? 915 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:11.960 It's lipliners. 916 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.480 Mine's really bad as Oh it's alipliner. I see what 917 00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:17.719 you mean. 918 00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.280 I looked nice. I could read it. 919 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:20.840 Thank you. 920 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:25.639 It's a no matter what the penmanship, Chris can always 921 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:27.519 tell a fart. 922 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.079 So are you what are you thinking of the game overall? 923 00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:32.440 Have you played much of it? Are you kind of? 924 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:32.840 Yeah? 925 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.039 I think it's hard to always for me to tell 926 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.320 in these because Silent Hills sometimes can be quite long, 927 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.199 and so you don't. I'm actually not confident how far 928 00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:42.719 into the game I am, but I will tell you 929 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.079 I I absolutely think it's a great addition to the 930 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:51.679 Silent Hill franchise. So, as I said, totally different. Maybe 931 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.000 it's like the same universe, but you're not in Silent Hill. 932 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.039 You are in like a small town in rural Japan. 933 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.840 You are like a school girl with your school people 934 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.119 friends going to school when a fog rolls in and 935 00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.079 literally one of them just gets like axe right in 936 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:07.599 front of you. 937 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:10.440 There's like a the fog. 938 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.760 Changes their skin, makes them bleed out of the pores 939 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.920 of their skin, and then they just straight up like die, 940 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.559 And so you're running from the fog and that's kind 941 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:25.000 of what starts a very quick stresser of this game. 942 00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.559 The enemies are also insanely freaky. 943 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:31.960 They look like dolls. 944 00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:32.880 Uh. 945 00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.960 Silent Hill is known for their half hot, half scary 946 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.639 enemy types, and this is no different the enemies. There's 947 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.559 two different main ones that have come across so far. 948 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.079 One they straight up do look like dolls, Like they 949 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.639 have the doll parts, you know, or like that leg. 950 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.280 You can see the line all the way around the 951 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:49.840 leg and it looks like, you know, you could like 952 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.320 rotate it all the way around like a doll. They 953 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.159 do that, and they're in terribly horrible warped positions with 954 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.679 huge like arched backs and like bent arms. 955 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.079 Very upset, you know, like. 956 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:03.920 The models that use when you're like learning how to 957 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:05.760 draw in school. 958 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.440 Yes, they look like they look like that, a little 959 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:14.360 like Uncanny Valley, but they're human enough that that would 960 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.679 really stress you out. They are branded with some kind 961 00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.440 of knife usually or like MACHETI or some kind of 962 00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.079 sharp object, and they really run at you this game, 963 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.880 unlike other Silent Hills where I felt like I was 964 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:31.119 often dodging enemy attacks and previous Silent Hills just to 965 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.880 preserve my health, and in this one they really are 966 00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.480 kind of I think encouraging you to get into combat. 967 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.400 I felt like I was basically forced into combat more 968 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:46.599 than multiple times. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a combat game. 969 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:48.119 I did run away a lot, but. 970 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:50.880 They're putting me. 971 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.239 They're putting me in a space where I had to 972 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.639 kill these dolls and then the other enemy that I 973 00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.119 keep coming across, which is really stressful. I'm going to 974 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.039 call them like scared or crow adjacent enemy types. They 975 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:05.480 look like they could be scarecrows. Or they're in a 976 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.880 field the first time you see them, and uh, you 977 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.400 have to pull like and I don't know, you do 978 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:13.280 put thorns? 979 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:14.280 Is that what it is? 980 00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.840 Well, they call it thorns when it's like nails with 981 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:17.960 like little notes on them. 982 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:19.639 Yes, and you have to pull them out of their 983 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.159 bodies and if you get it wrong, they come to 984 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:23.199 life and attack you. 985 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:25.039 And if you get it right, you get they. 986 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.599 Can get it wrong. Sorry, is it like a puzzle? 987 00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.000 It is a puzzle, very puzzly. Sorry, I went ahead 988 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:29.880 of myself. Go ahead, Chris. 989 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.840 Did you did you like this puzzle? This puzzle is 990 00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.880 the people who love this low. They're like, you go 991 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.800 into a field and there are six scarecrow and you 992 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:42.880 need to pick the right one. Yeah, top of a mystery. Yeah, 993 00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:44.800 And if you don't know, I'm at you it's the 994 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.679 best part of the game. Once you get that a game, 995 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.719 it's really good. And I don't I don't know you 996 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.679 didn't like it, Well, can you describe the puzzle? 997 00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.840 Sure, I will try and describe the puzzle. So you're sayah, 998 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:04.119 and a foul on sex spacraws, and there will be 999 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.400 a person that is essentially saying if you try and 1000 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.760 run into the mist, the mist will just magically transport 1001 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.119 you back to the same field. So you have to 1002 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.159 pick the right person who will point in a very 1003 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.079 specific direction for you to continue your journey in this 1004 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.639 foggy field. And then the puzzle will usually be it's 1005 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.360 usually through like the voice of a random person, and 1006 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.800 so they'll be like, I always loved hanging out with you, 1007 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.119 even though I know deep down inside your smile was 1008 00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.280 a lie and you were hollow inside. And you'll be like, Okay, 1009 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.000 what the fuck does that mean? And so you'll look 1010 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.440 at all these scarecrows and you have to interpret what 1011 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:45.880 you think that messages into which face that most likely represents. 1012 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.800 Do you think it means that the person smiles because 1013 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:53.360 the person said you smile even though you were sad inside? 1014 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.079 Or should they be the sad scarecrow because they are 1015 00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.280 actually sad, but they had a smile and faked it. 1016 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.559 And so you're like guessing the interpretation of what I 1017 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.320 think is a very vague description of a person. 1018 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.400 And my answer, yeah, go. 1019 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.679 Ahead, Yeah, Well there's like three difficulties. Yes, And I 1020 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.679 looked up a guide because I was like, oh, man, 1021 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:18.440 I don't know what's going on here. Yeah, the easiest 1022 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.320 difficulty made the least sense in the hardness difficulty, I 1023 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:23.519 was like, oh, I hadn't nailed that one. 1024 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:26.079 I was on hard to agree. So maybe that's why 1025 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.480 I felt like I got it. 1026 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.000 That I should have played that, because mine was like, 1027 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:35.039 I can't believe you stab me in the back. And 1028 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.320 it's like a person stabbing someone in the back, and 1029 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:42.760 it's like nope, nope, try again, stupid idiot. 1030 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:48.039 Idiot doesn't I don't like vague puzzles. 1031 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.719 In the hard mode a lot of the Well, actually 1032 00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.639 I didn't play easy mode. I didn't play baby ass 1033 00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.559 baby mode. So maybe you can tell me. Did they 1034 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.119 have masks on? Because what I recognized with when they 1035 00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.239 said something like you are smiling, but I know deep 1036 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.559 down inside you were upset. The mask was smiling and 1037 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.639 the person was upset, and so it was a It 1038 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:11.920 was a two fur for me to recognize that the 1039 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.199 mask is the mask that we wear and the way 1040 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.280 they actually wear where it was was sad? Did they 1041 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.400 have masks in childlike mode? 1042 00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.920 At a certain point, I just started killing everyone. 1043 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.559 Yeah, I will say I did fine on the first one. 1044 00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.920 I actually like, didn't get it right on my second 1045 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.039 one three times, and then I got the first. I 1046 00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:34.760 got it right on the first try on my third one, 1047 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.800 so it's like I made even it's solid. 1048 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:40.760 We all make mistakes. 1049 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.000 That's so true. Thank you for making me feel better 1050 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.559 about my decision to just murder thousands. 1051 00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:47.920 Of It's hard though, because the. 1052 00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:54.280 Just like in other silent hills like your your items 1053 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.119 have durability and so you don't really want to just 1054 00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.599 get into combat willy nilly, because you're burning through you're 1055 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:01.760 good items. 1056 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.880 Uh so you were playing on hard on that also? 1057 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:06.480 I see on combat? 1058 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:09.960 Yeah? Sorry, Oh no, we've been playing a different game. 1059 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.519 Is there not ability on easy mode? 1060 00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:16.039 It's well, I was playing on wherever the normal mode 1061 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:20.960 is right, and I was fucking god, I was you 1062 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.760 there's a dodge freeze dodge in this game. That is, 1063 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:31.239 you are literally just neo for matrix. You like literally 1064 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.000 enemies would I would just wait for them to attack 1065 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.719 me because I was like, oh man, I'm gonna kill 1066 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.719 you if you even dare to come at me. Wow. 1067 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.079 Which the game. It's a weird game because you would 1068 00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.000 think that doesn't align with the story at all. But 1069 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:49.800 if you think of this story as one about a 1070 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.760 woman realizing that she in fact can't be a baddie 1071 00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.440 h it does it doesn't work? Well, you can't at 1072 00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.880 first because it is a hill game, which means I 1073 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:04.719 don't know how to say this now without it seeming 1074 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.880 inappropriate about like horrible men who abuse women. It's true, yeah, 1075 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:11.760 you know the kind of the theme of the game. 1076 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.199 But then you like get i don't know, like a 1077 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.840 broken piece of pipe, and instantly you're like, I'm going 1078 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:23.519 to kill God himself. Yeah, Like you're just zipping around. Yeah, 1079 00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.679 I mean I'm here. What did you think about the story? 1080 00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:27.440 How far? 1081 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:28.079 How far are you? 1082 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:33.000 I'm well, that's what I was saying. I'm actually not 1083 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.239 sure how far I am. I'm like past the school. 1084 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.039 Okay, yeah, you're in it. 1085 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:38.760 I'm in it. 1086 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.039 I think it's great so far, But you know, like 1087 00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.079 most Silent Hill games, the ending is going to be 1088 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.159 what probably makes me decide whether or not I think 1089 00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:49.280 this is all justified. 1090 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.000 But I just want to say, like. 1091 00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:57.039 Mechanically, I'm really liking how they've connected the game to 1092 00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.079 the world building. Because I get all these items, and 1093 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.239 it could be anything from like chocolate to like a 1094 00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.920 fizzy drink to a bandage. I can use them, I 1095 00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:10.440 can or I can sell them. But these shrines and 1096 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.280 I can upgrade my character. So if I'm not using 1097 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.039 all these items, if I'm playing really efficiently or effectively, 1098 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:20.079 I'm selling them and I'm upgrading my my combat ability 1099 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.519 or you can sell them. And I think this is 1100 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.039 like a gambling thing because I think it's random. But 1101 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.880 I got random upgrades and one of them was like 1102 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:33.639 that I just was way more efficient with hitting people 1103 00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:35.280 with my weapon, and I was like, that's one hundred 1104 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.480 percent worth all of all of this currency. And so 1105 00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:43.159 I've enjoyed the mechanics of the game. I've enjoyed the environment. 1106 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.880 I've enjoyed this story so far. I knew I was 1107 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.760 going to going to a school, and goddamn it, this 1108 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:49.760 school is so scary. Like the school was so scary. 1109 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.960 It was like such a scary sequence of like these 1110 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:58.320 goddamn things are like hiding behind everything and crawling around. 1111 00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.840 And I think it's great. I think it's done a 1112 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.000 fantastic job so far. But I think I have to 1113 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:04.039 see how it ends. 1114 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:06.480 I have one more question, what do you think of 1115 00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.800 the phantom zone with the wolf boy? 1116 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.559 Ah, with the wolf Boy. I don't know if I 1117 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:14.000 get it. 1118 00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:15.119 Uh. 1119 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.000 I just assumed that it was just more atmosphere. But 1120 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:20.400 Silent Hill is known for me being like I don't 1121 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.920 know what that's all about. Yeah, so my my my 1122 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.800 answer is I don't know. I don't know what. 1123 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.719 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I get it. 1124 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.119 I enjoyed it. It's like it was a good change 1125 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:30.519 of pace. 1126 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.079 Yeah, I gotta play it. 1127 00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:35.679 I mean now, after talking to you, I'm like, you 1128 00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.400 guys should play it on hard, because, like I I. 1129 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:38.880 Think I should. 1130 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:40.559 The combat was I always do. 1131 00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:47.519 Very challenging, and I I thought I thought that, like 1132 00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.559 that is the way to play these because you want 1133 00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.320 to be scared and you want it to challenge you. 1134 00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.320 The puzzles being on hard is also pretty wild, Like 1135 00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.920 it's one thing to have to change difficulty setting. It's 1136 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.920 another to be like, what do you want your combat 1137 00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:03.599 difficulty to be? 1138 00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:04.039 Cool? 1139 00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:05.679 What do you want your puzzle difficulty to be? And 1140 00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.880 I was like, what, like, you can change that, and 1141 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.559 you can. I made both of them like very difficult 1142 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.440 because I want the game to be difficult and it 1143 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.000 is a hard game to get through. But I think 1144 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.039 that that's I didn't play this to like seamlessly breeze 1145 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:20.760 through it. I want to be scared, and I want 1146 00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.719 to be grossed out, and I want to be confused, 1147 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:23.679 and I got all of those. 1148 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.800 I really should have done that, because there's like there 1149 00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.159 are these like mini possis that meet. They're huge, like 1150 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:32.440 the size of a tank, and I would just beat 1151 00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:35.920 it down with my pipe until it died part time 1152 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.960 and it can't be killed, so I just wake up 1153 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:40.639 and then the second it woke up, I just beat 1154 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.639 it down and then I go back to someone whatever 1155 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:44.960 puzzle I had, Oh. 1156 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:49.280 My god, that part was so stressful to me. I 1157 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.039 used all of my weapons to take it down once 1158 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:53.920 and then I got halfway through the puzzle and it 1159 00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:54.800 came back to life and I. 1160 00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:57.800 Went, what the fuck have any items? 1161 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.599 Nah? As I rolled up like a newspaper and swatting 1162 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.719 it on the nose. I was like, please stop, and 1163 00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:03.199 I was like. 1164 00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:08.599 We had a very different experience playing this game. 1165 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.239 Like a crimson Head from res remake. 1166 00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:16.679 Oh, they do like regenerate and the ones in the 1167 00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:20.679 field they're fucked up too. I will just say, uh, 1168 00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.719 they're They're the kind of thing where you'll look at 1169 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.559 all of them, like, so you'll see six in a field, 1170 00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.679 but to find the one that you want, you need 1171 00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:31.519 to look around. So I'd look at one specifically and 1172 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.440 then I would hear something and I would turn around 1173 00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:37.639 and one of them had moved. And so usually in 1174 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:42.599 these like field situations or even in the school, if 1175 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:47.320 things are standing still, not always, sometimes they're actually like 1176 00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.119 playing still. But when you turn your back, they'll they'll 1177 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.960 run up to you. And that shit is so scary. 1178 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.960 That will get me every time that the things are 1179 00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:58.480 moving when you're not looking at them. Oh, I just 1180 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.599 get like stressed out things king about it. I will say, 1181 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:06.800 I did look up some puzzles. I got absolutely stomped 1182 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.960 on these locker puzzles where I think they were just 1183 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.920 straight up like some of them were just brutal math 1184 00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:16.199 sequences and I was like, I ain't doing all that 1185 00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.599 I could, but I don't want to. I didn't have 1186 00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:23.119 my abacuss on me, and I just didn't. I wasn't prepared, 1187 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:26.239 so I just looked up one locker code answer. 1188 00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:27.360 Wow, that's the truth. 1189 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.480 Really, I really want to play it. It seems up 1190 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:37.280 my alley. I also have recently restarted The Quarry because 1191 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.159 I got into it a decent amount two years ago 1192 00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:41.719 whenever it first came out I think it was two 1193 00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:44.239 years ago. And I love super massive stuff, so I 1194 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:48.440 want to keep playing that. But I also the more I. 1195 00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:51.079 Have you played The Quarry before, Yeah, I. 1196 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:52.679 Got like a third of the way into it from 1197 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:56.800 my understanding of length. Other stuff came out for work, 1198 00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:57.840 I'm sure or something like that. 1199 00:59:57.880 --> 00:59:58.239 It wasn't. 1200 00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.880 It wasn't like quit from exhaustion or disinterest. 1201 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.880 Yeah, I think it was good. I don't think Yeah, 1202 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:06.920 problem with those types of games is quite. 1203 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:10.119 A bit, and I just kind of wanted those vibes. 1204 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:18.800 But I also the more time I spend on this Earth, 1205 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.519 the more I think about Alan Wake two. Since I 1206 01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:25.000 played that game, I fucking love that game, and uh 1207 01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:27.960 I sometimes I'm like always fighting off replaying that game. 1208 01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:30.280 I really should not replay that game right now because 1209 01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.400 we have a I have quite a lot of other 1210 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.239 things to catch up on before Game of the Year 1211 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:36.079 and Alan Wake two. 1212 01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.239 I really want to go back and actually just play 1213 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.679 that game, because I when it came out, it ran 1214 01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.760 like garbage on my PC for whatever reason. 1215 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.760 I think it was a Yeah, it was a widespread problems. 1216 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.000 It was such a bummer too, because there were entire 1217 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:54.000 parts I remember the musical number so yeah, yeah, just 1218 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.159 completely bombed out time after two. 1219 01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:59.440 That must really ruin your ability to enjoy it. 1220 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.079 Do you have an like do you perchance have like 1221 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.599 like a handheld that's like thousand dollars? 1222 01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:10.639 M well, I am an ally on the Republic of Gamers. 1223 01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:15.480 I try to be you know, I try to be 1224 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:17.119 the man that I want to see in the world. 1225 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:23.000 Dress if you want. But in consoles, I bet it 1226 01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.360 would play great on that. So that's a shame. 1227 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.159 Oh yeah, you know, when not play great on that 1228 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:34.440 that Xbox handheld Xbox games, you would think it would 1229 01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:39.039 be the opposite. I'm sorry, this is like, this is 1230 01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:45.280 you pushed into my life. Number one thing. I'm I 1231 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.400 try not to be the shock jock Radio person. Something 1232 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:54.079 about this handheld truly just drives me the skin wants 1233 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:58.639 to leave my skeleton. It is so absurd that the 1234 01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:01.360 entire marketing is this is an Xbox, and then they 1235 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:04.559 made an Xbox and it doesn't play Xbox games. It's 1236 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.320 the funniest shit on the planet. And funny, I mean 1237 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.199 it's like just derange. 1238 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.199 Yeah, who knows the decision making? 1239 01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.960 I will say, like it's it's alan Wick two was 1240 01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:20.440 like kind of shocking for everyone who was like, you 1241 01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:21.800 have to play this game. 1242 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.639 And I think I was also distracted in the musical sequence. 1243 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.400 I forget what was happening, but I think my dog 1244 01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.639 was like coughing up a hairball or something was happening, 1245 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:32.519 and I just remember being distracted. And I remember like 1246 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.760 everyone was like did you get to that scene? And 1247 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.440 I was like yeah, it was cool, and everyone was like, 1248 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:41.519 but wasn't it life altering? And I was like, oh, 1249 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:44.800 I just thought it was like a funky little dancing scene, 1250 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:45.679 and I just didn't. 1251 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:46.280 I did not. 1252 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.639 Get the same immersion that so many people got from 1253 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:51.280 that experience. 1254 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:54.360 Uh No, I think I was. 1255 01:02:57.519 --> 01:02:59.920 In the games when I stream them, I will say 1256 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:04.440 some games I think are harder to stream than others. Yeah, 1257 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.639 I will not stream like an elden Ring, for example, 1258 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.440 because there's no way I would enjoy it. I would 1259 01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.440 be too focused on how embarrassed I am that I've 1260 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.360 died five hundred times to the same boss. 1261 01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:13.159 Yeah, and I. 1262 01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:14.760 Don't think I would actually be able to just like 1263 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:20.159 appreciate it. But some games I've really enjoyed streaming. 1264 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.800 Oh yeah, no, it's it's I mean it's possible to 1265 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:25.440 not love that scene, even if you were playing it 1266 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:27.239 offline or on. 1267 01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.599 Off dog is coughing up a hairball. You are distracted. 1268 01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:32.519 No, it's not gonna get everybody the same way. I 1269 01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:36.000 big picture wise, that game, I just absolutely love that 1270 01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:39.119 they they made two games that are very very different 1271 01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:43.039 within that one one which is like inspired by Taxi 1272 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.760 Driver and acid trips and like liminal spaces, and then 1273 01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:48.480 they put Allen in there. And then the other one 1274 01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.320 was more straight up survival horror in the Pack Northwest, 1275 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:56.840 And you could play either one up until basically the 1276 01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.920 like penultimate scene, and then go to the other one. 1277 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:01.519 I was jumping back and forth. I think that's the 1278 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:03.840 ideal way to play that game. But I know people 1279 01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:06.320 who just played all the way through Saga's stuff before 1280 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:10.559 they went even tried Allen's which is super cool. But 1281 01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:12.840 that game didn't come out this year, so I have 1282 01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.079 to play other stuff to have ammunition against Dan, Mary 1283 01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:16.480 and Jake. 1284 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.639 It's true we have to like really start, you know, 1285 01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:24.559 just stacking the decks because we have to fight Dan 1286 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.480 on anything that he's going to bring to the table. 1287 01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:28.800 Death Beginning two is in trouble. 1288 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.679 Speaking of stacking the decks, I have been playing Monster 1289 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:36.239 Train two, which is a rubliic deck builder, So thank 1290 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:39.840 you Mary for the transition. You're Monster Train one. I 1291 01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.000 want to say it came out in twenty twenty one 1292 01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:45.480 something like that a few years ago. Really great game, 1293 01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.199 both that game and this The art, how do I 1294 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.639 say it? It's not the yeah art style art direction 1295 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.679 doesn't really do them many favors. They look kind of 1296 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.639 slay the Spiery in a bad way, just slay the 1297 01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.800 Spire looked like it had that like paper cutout vibe 1298 01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:07.480 that I don't think translated all that well in the 1299 01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:09.760 first game. I mean, it was a great game by 1300 01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:10.119 all means. 1301 01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:14.960 That saturated. It was what it feels, very saturated. 1302 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.239 It's not saturated for me. It's like, literally, it just 1303 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.320 looks like cheap is the best way I could put it. 1304 01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.920 But Monster Trained two and I said that about Tower 1305 01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.360 Dominion too, my another one of my favorite games this year, 1306 01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:28.559 which is a tower defense game. But Monster Train two 1307 01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:31.119 is phenomenal. I don't did you either of you play 1308 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:32.480 Monster Train the first game? 1309 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:35.440 I'll be real card games. 1310 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:39.920 Yeah, fair enough that I don't like the whole genre. 1311 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:44.599 I would say this one kind of unlocked them for 1312 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:48.639 me in certain ways. But just elevator pitch. You're on 1313 01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:53.920 a train hurtling toward the final boss, and the train 1314 01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:58.960 is composed of four levels, so enemies will come in. 1315 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:00.880 Anyones you don't kill in THETTOM level will advance to 1316 01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:02.599 the top level, and then the third, and then to 1317 01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:05.239 your core, which is basically your trans engine, which can 1318 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.519 do damage to them, but it also takes enough damage 1319 01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:12.519 and it's destroyed, ends your run. But there's also a 1320 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:14.719 ton of ways you can manipulate this, where you can 1321 01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:16.400 move someone from the third floor to the first. You 1322 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.320 can move your characters, you can move their characters. The 1323 01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.480 deck building comes into play in that you have your 1324 01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:25.639 main faction and a champion. Your champion it costs like 1325 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:30.320 basically zero ap to place on the train and obviously 1326 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.119 is the most powerful character, but then they're surrounded by 1327 01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.920 more minions and spells, et cetera. And throughout the course 1328 01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:40.800 of the run you are deciding how best to flesh 1329 01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.559 this deck out. You have an ally faction where you're 1330 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.559 getting some units too. You're not getting its champion, but 1331 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:48.079 you're getting some of the lower tier units. You are 1332 01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.760 deciding which cards to destroy. Which to me, before I 1333 01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:54.480 start playing this game a lot, again, I haven't played 1334 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:56.079 a lot of Heartstone, I haven't played a lot of 1335 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:01.480 Magic the Gathering Arena, so destroying cards and like moving 1336 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:03.880 cards out of your rotation, the benefit didn't really dawn 1337 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:05.360 on me until I play this game is that you 1338 01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:07.480 increase the chances of getting the other cards that you 1339 01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:09.599 like by taking out the cards that you don't love, 1340 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.960 because they might get reshoveled into your hand. But generally speaking, 1341 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:16.320 it's I don't think it does. It's not doing anything 1342 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:21.519 revolutionarily different from the first game, Monster Train. But there 1343 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:24.800 are new factions, there are new effects. A lot of 1344 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:29.079 times you're stacking these different buffs, these different there's valor, 1345 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:34.039 this thing this time around which your characters can accumulate 1346 01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.119 by taking damage, they can accumulate by you playing certain 1347 01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:40.519 cards to the point where each of these valor points 1348 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.320 will add up to multipliers on there. There's a bit 1349 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.559 of Blattro in this game, which I think Blatro also, 1350 01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:49.360 like I think a lot of people who aren't really 1351 01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:52.519 into deck building games got into Bolattro because the deck 1352 01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:57.320 building was so well integrated into the roguelide aspects. There's 1353 01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.280 an element of that here where you can really break 1354 01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.960 the game if you play your cards right. Literally, but 1355 01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:03.480 you could. 1356 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.119 Do that in the first You what you could do 1357 01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.159 that in the first Monster Hunter, Monster Train. 1358 01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.079 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not new, yeah, but 1359 01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:15.159 I'm saying they still held on to that core, like 1360 01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:18.319 they want you to kind of think about how you 1361 01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.239 might actually make this character indestructible. So I'm loving it. 1362 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:24.640 I'm only six runs in. I've gotten close to the 1363 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.880 final boss on the fifth, but like many a Rogue Light, 1364 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:33.159 you're also unlocking quite a bit between runs. You're upgrading 1365 01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:37.560 individual factions, unlocking new ones, and it's great. I'm liking 1366 01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.520 it quite a bit. I'm going to keep playing it, 1367 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:45.840 and it's definitely absolutely unless it runs poorly on steam Deck. 1368 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.119 I can't imagine it not being amazing steam Deck game. 1369 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:49.520 So that's going to be my travel game for the 1370 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:52.680 foreseeable future. And if you like first Monster Train or 1371 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:57.279 you didn't get around to playing it, and you like 1372 01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:01.079 I would, I honestly say I love Bilotro like many 1373 01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:04.760 people did. Maybe check out Monster Train too, see if 1374 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:06.600 it kind of scratches the same mich because it did 1375 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:07.319 for me for sure. 1376 01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:10.000 So you're saying it's a talkie game. 1377 01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:15.279 Super talky, Yeah, yeah, there is actually Weirdly this game, 1378 01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:19.000 they introduce this like lower codex where you can unlock story, 1379 01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:21.840 which does not play against your will while you're trying 1380 01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:23.760 between runs. But there is a codex you can go 1381 01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:26.920 to and read lore if you care, and I don't care. Sure, 1382 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:28.920 no offense, no offense. I'm sure there's a lot of 1383 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.439 well written stuff there for people who made this. Uh I, 1384 01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:37.439 shiny Shoe. I believe it's the studio, sure, I just 1385 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.279 uh I just that's not what I'm there for. I 1386 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:44.479 get my lore elsewhere. I'm on the Warframe wiki. I'm 1387 01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:46.520 on the Warhammer wiki all the time. It's enough lore 1388 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:46.800 for me. 1389 01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:50.560 I get lots more in my own way. I don't 1390 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:52.319 need someone to force feed. 1391 01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:56.600 My lore got lower all along this bookshelf. Oh yeah, 1392 01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:01.000 I go to the Lore Valley. Just really good stuff there. Yeah, 1393 01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:03.760 but yeah, I Muster Trained two is great so far. 1394 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:05.680 Highly recommend it if anybody like the first game or 1395 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:10.520 like the Latro or uh, or I just really like 1396 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:12.279 step building games and wants to see it integrated well 1397 01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:16.520 into a roadblad Right, what else, Chris, Chris, Chris, I 1398 01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:18.760 know you said you've been You've been traveling a ton lately, 1399 01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.319 so I'm sure you haven't played a ton of new, 1400 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:23.840 like brand new games, But just give us the quick 1401 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.920 rundown of what are some of your favorite games this 1402 01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:28.760 year that have really hit you hard? 1403 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:32.159 I mean, I've been playing so much the thing that 1404 01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.720 I guess I'll shout out now because it'll be coming 1405 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.000 out close. When does this episode drop? 1406 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:39.880 The November third Monday? 1407 01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:42.279 Oh okay, I think it'll be like very close the 1408 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.760 full release of this. Q OP Do you know about 1409 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:45.239 q OP? 1410 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:45.920 No? 1411 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:50.560 Like q U e U e Q the letter Q You. 1412 01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.159 Want me to write it down in my lipliner? 1413 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:58.880 Perfect perfect silent hill fart. It is the latest game, 1414 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:03.800 uh from Frank Lance who did Universal paper Clips. Yeah, 1415 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.479 and uh, and there's a bunch of other people working 1416 01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:08.880 on this from what I can tell, But it is 1417 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:14.760 a eesport all about fairness. Everything is one hundred percent 1418 01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:19.920 completely random multiplayer eesport. That's definitely what it is. It 1419 01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:24.199 is about coin flipping. Are you heads? Are you tails? 1420 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:27.720 Which one are you gonna get? Play to the death? 1421 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:30.479 E sports. That's all. 1422 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.399 That's all. There's nothing else going on. It's just esports. 1423 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.039 It's just one hundred percent fair, one hundred percent random 1424 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:39.199 flipping some cold But are there like individual heroes too? 1425 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.520 And the crazy thing about it is they are heroes, 1426 01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.560 but they're all equally good because it's one hundred percent fair. 1427 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:51.960 What game? What game are? These characters reminded me of 1428 01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:54.520 like Goodbye Volcano High or whatever. Those No, that was 1429 01:11:54.560 --> 01:12:02.039 all like anthropomorphic creatures. This is this has like, uh, 1430 01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:06.520 what was the It's kind of what the dad day dat? 1431 01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:08.760 Yeah, the date the dads? 1432 01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:12.640 No, what was the daddy dat game? You know what 1433 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:16.039 I'm talking about? Mary, You must know the dad. 1434 01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:17.520 Oh what are you talking about? 1435 01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:18.840 Dream daddy, Dream daddy? 1436 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:19.079 Thank you. 1437 01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:20.680 It looks like the same art style. 1438 01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:24.800 Let me know, if you were to talk about any 1439 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.600 hot smutty boys, I got you anyway. 1440 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:33.439 But yeah, you know, it's it is as I'm being 1441 01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:36.319 very starky, but it is a game that is not 1442 01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:39.039 as it seems. It is a game, Mary, you are 1443 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.079 going to love this game, I think because it's a 1444 01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:45.640 lot of playing this extremely fair esport that is definitely 1445 01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:50.039 very popular amongst uh streamers, and then also getting emails 1446 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:53.640 from the company that makes it. Uh. There's a lot 1447 01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.119 of there's a lot of Chalky in this game to 1448 01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:57.640 go along with the Dewey. 1449 01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:01.800 And looking at a lot of reading too, like not 1450 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:04.640 just talking like I'm reading, there's a lot of text 1451 01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:05.640 on the screen, Bud. 1452 01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:09.520 Yes, I think I think it's going to be a 1453 01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.439 good thing. I don't know if it's going to blow up. 1454 01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:13.199 We'll see, but I think people who play it are 1455 01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.760 going to really love it. And then in terms of 1456 01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:17.520 you know, I've been playing all this stuff the everybody's 1457 01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.520 I'm playing speaking of games from people who you know, 1458 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:25.279 worked at n YU Baby Steps, It's great. I loved it. 1459 01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:27.319 I don't understand how you can love this game. 1460 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:30.920 Yeah for real, Yeah, neither of them really, No. 1461 01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:34.159 We we we've talked about the last episodes. Get I 1462 01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.119 like it. It's just not tell us about it. 1463 01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:36.439 You sick? 1464 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:38.600 Why do you like this game? I don't even like. 1465 01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:41.720 I'm taking it at my pace, so I'm not one 1466 01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:43.079 of thos like art. 1467 01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:46.760 Can't be builed down to one simple. 1468 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:50.920 That's That's why that face is literally my nightmare. 1469 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:54.159 It's the face I do when I'm being pretentious. Is 1470 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:56.119 it the face you do when you're being pretentious or 1471 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.239 you've enjoyed baby steps? If that's the right. 1472 01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:05.239 No, I'm playing it at my own pace, and for me, 1473 01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:09.039 it just it like quite literally feels good on a 1474 01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.760 mechanical level, just moving around. 1475 01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.640 What do you mean it feels it feels awful? You're 1476 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:17.840 stumbling around and you're looking at. 1477 01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:24.560 This I have only maybe like twice what I think. 1478 01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:26.399 It's a game that once you learn how to walk, 1479 01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.560 it truly is a game. I think the problem is 1480 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:34.720 people saw this game like, oh, it's a game about difficulty. 1481 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:37.039 It is a game about like all these things, and 1482 01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:39.720 like how many horrible things can you overcome? And they're 1483 01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:44.199 thinking about it like getting over it like the other Bennettotty. Yes, 1484 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.760 I think it is the exact opposite. If you actually 1485 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.720 just take the main path, if you just go whatever 1486 01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:56.199 looks easiest. I think the game is quite easy. Did 1487 01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:01.439 you what I have that? I'm probably like halfway through, 1488 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.039 but I've yet to like really had a hard part 1489 01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:06.279 once I learned how to walk. Learning how to walk 1490 01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:08.800 was hard. It took me probably like fifteen twenty minutes. 1491 01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:11.199 And then once I did that, I just have been 1492 01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:14.079 trot no way, just having a nice walk. I see 1493 01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:15.560 like a little thing where it's like go up to 1494 01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:17.880 an edge and you can grab an apple, and I'm like, no, 1495 01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.399 thank you. I see like a little hat. Got the 1496 01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:22.239 first one. I was like, well that was hard. Saw 1497 01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:24.119 the second one. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, 1498 01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:27.239 I'm not falling for your tricks baby steps, no thank you, No, 1499 01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:30.600 I keep going, I keep going. I think it wants 1500 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:32.880 you to realize that you can actually just take the 1501 01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:34.880 easy path, that it is okay. 1502 01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:37.640 It sounds like the episode when Jeff doing. 1503 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.319 You think philosophically, what it's teaching you is to just 1504 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:42.319 take the easy route. 1505 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:43.479 You don't have to. 1506 01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:47.199 I think it is. There's a point later in the 1507 01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:50.279 game and this is like spoilers, but it's now all over, 1508 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:54.279 like you're not going to escape this where there's a 1509 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:58.920 absolutely impossible mountain side that you can climb, and then 1510 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:01.399 there's also and then yeah, grub I think actually made 1511 01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:04.800 a video of about spiral staircase. There's the green Spiral staircase, 1512 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.960 and you can just take the green Spiral staircase and 1513 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.600 there's nothing different. The game call like it shames you 1514 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:14.439 either way. It's not trying to tell you anything about it, 1515 01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:17.199 And I I think a lot of the game you 1516 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.520 could read it as one that it's like, oh no, 1517 01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:22.439 it's actually, you know, embarrassing that people use guides or 1518 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:25.560 maps and games and like how far we've fallen from 1519 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.079 whatever a true game is. But as I get deeper 1520 01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:30.600 into the game, I think it's actually like why our 1521 01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:35.960 gamer's so weirdly prideful of something so stupid, like go 1522 01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:39.079 take take this option, it's right in front of you. 1523 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.119 Then turn off the game and go meet like humans 1524 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:43.920 in Yorks. 1525 01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:47.319 I cannot believe that you have found such deep meaning 1526 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.600 in such a stupid, stupid. 1527 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:50.920 Ugly game. 1528 01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:53.319 Do you know about like the little mini games that 1529 01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:57.279 you can unlock, No, they're like many scenes. Okay, so 1530 01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.239 this is the wild chain, and it's why it would 1531 01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:01.680 motivate you to do the other things. If you get 1532 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:05.000 a hat or whatever and you care like you wear 1533 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:10.399 it to the campfires or whatever that check point each thing. 1534 01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:14.920 When you get there, it will cut to atari like 1535 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.520 scene that you can move around, and they're all just 1536 01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:23.039 about how absolutely sad and pathetic this man is. And 1537 01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.239 it's kind of like a oh, here's how somebody falls 1538 01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.920 into Mr. Bullshit. Like it's very much about like, hey, 1539 01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:35.680 don't be this, like don't learn how to talk with someone. 1540 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:38.159 Get away from the machine. 1541 01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:40.520 That's so crazy, like. 1542 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.319 Say hello to friends, you know, receive help. 1543 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:47.960 Putting so much assumption into the design of this game. 1544 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:51.520 I thought that the purpose of this game was to 1545 01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:57.239 be so annoyingly bad that I was meant to go 1546 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:58.680 outside and touch grass. 1547 01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:04.800 I will also say I'm unquestionably biased, like mega biased 1548 01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:09.159 on this game. Why one of the designers was one 1549 01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:11.720 of my co teachers at n y U Penet Wow. 1550 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:13.840 I also think it is one of the I think 1551 01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:15.199 he's brilliant. 1552 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:16.359 Body is brilliant. 1553 01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.199 Oh now we all think is really. 1554 01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:22.840 It was cool. 1555 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:29.920 Designers want a game students. 1556 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:33.079 One of the I made the one that you used 1557 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:34.920 to wear when you guys were. 1558 01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:39.279 Basically plant design this game because. 1559 01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:41.399 That's what I'm trying to say is I had the 1560 01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.079 smallest effect on these two people's lives. But I think 1561 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.560 that they looked at me and they said, Wow, what 1562 01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:48.800 a sad man. I think she's just a video game 1563 01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:49.159 about it. 1564 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:52.159 I can't believe that you're going to win a game 1565 01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:54.640 award about your likeness. 1566 01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:57.840 It's a great game. The only other one that I 1567 01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:00.239 guess I will like plag because I loved it. I 1568 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.039 also I just loved talking to the creators about it 1569 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:08.079 on post games of podcasts issues. Did y'all play Blipo? 1570 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:10.039 No? Tell me about Blippo? 1571 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.079 Wait? Really, do you not know about Blippo at all? Oh? 1572 01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:16.000 Your educating? Okay. 1573 01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:23.279 Blippo is a FMV games looks like Access TV from 1574 01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:27.840 like nineteen eighty eight, and it's an entire alien TV 1575 01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:31.760 like cable package. It's like multiple channels and you can 1576 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:34.920 flip through the channels like, oh, here's the news, or 1577 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:40.039 here is a exercise show. There's an entire Nickelodeon ripoff 1578 01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.800 in it, and you just there's no goal. You just 1579 01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.600 watch it and as you watch a certain amount, it 1580 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.159 unlocks new packages. Wow, you can watch more. And it 1581 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:54.880 was made by in part by the band Yacht. The 1582 01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:56.079 lead singer wrote. 1583 01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:57.560 It it's on that tiny device. 1584 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:01.039 Yeah it works on the Playdate, but you could also 1585 01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:05.720 now play it on Steam and Color and all of them. 1586 01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:10.159 A bunch of la art community like underground artists like 1587 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:13.439 appear in it, including like high school theater kids. And 1588 01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:17.039 then they shot it in a studio that uses actual 1589 01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.960 old TV equipment from the eighties and nineties. So I 1590 01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.600 respect it's it's so it is a real what do 1591 01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:24.920 you do? 1592 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:25.720 Nothing? 1593 01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:28.640 You literally just watch it. It is a game that 1594 01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:32.199 the idea is that the planet Blip has all of 1595 01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.039 these TV channels and something is going on on the 1596 01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.640 planet Blip and you will learn the story by watching 1597 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:38.159 the channel. 1598 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:40.560 Okay, cool that sounds It's like, what do you want 1599 01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:45.960 to call it? It's got oh my god, San Barlow 1600 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.359 vibes and immortality. 1601 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:50.560 Immortality That was it. 1602 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:52.479 Right, immortality in her story? 1603 01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:55.760 Yes, but even less worry about a game. You can 1604 01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:59.640 tell it was made. It was published by Panic, who 1605 01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:02.920 did untitled Goose game but also did like Deak below tay, 1606 01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:06.560 I think Cable, the guy who runs that, he's very 1607 01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:09.800 successful off of my app business. Truly one of the 1608 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.600 people that seems to be cool with. I don't know 1609 01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:13.800 if this will ever make money. 1610 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:14.600 I don't give a shit. 1611 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.359 It's quite cool and that's not my problem. 1612 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:18.840 I mean I respect that a lot. 1613 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:22.079 Can I ask you, though, like, is it uh, I'm 1614 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:23.399 just looking for tone here. 1615 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.680 Is it funny? Is it like uneasy? 1616 01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:30.720 Is it like it's not it's not one of those things. 1617 01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:33.319 It's like, oh it looks old and silly, but it's 1618 01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:38.279 actually a jump scare. No, it's it's crying. No, it's 1619 01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:42.359 it's like playing nineteen eighties local TV. That's it really 1620 01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:43.079 commits to the bit. 1621 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:44.640 I mean, nothing creepy about that. 1622 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.279 Yeah, I mean I love FMV games and I have 1623 01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.479 to say, like, this really scratches an itch for me. 1624 01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:52.279 But I'm just curious if this is like a you 1625 01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.239 gotta play this during Spooptober, or if it's like not 1626 01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:56.359 really like this is. 1627 01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.800 No, I would say this is a good like you 1628 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.039 know that slow period at the beginning of December, where're 1629 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:04.600 like I thought I would have more to play right 1630 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.239 now and then you don't. Oh yeah, that's it's going 1631 01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:09.079 to be the good stuff. 1632 01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.760 I love f MV games so much and I really 1633 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:15.279 have to say this, like, is this is so appealing 1634 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:15.600 to me. 1635 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:19.119 They're starting to translate a lot of the games from China, 1636 01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:21.680 the fm B games that they've been making over there, 1637 01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:24.239 and I am living. 1638 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.880 For that is music to my ears. I can't wait 1639 01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.520 to watch that crazy ship. 1640 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:34.880 I'm sure on some of these historic romantic dramas and. 1641 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:39.319 Me China romantic dramas. 1642 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:44.000 Oh yeah, one second, I'm gonna find one and I'm sorry, 1643 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:50.520 what thank you? Yes? Road to Empress? Uh oh yeah, 1644 01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:52.159 games are back. 1645 01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:54.800 Games are back, baby. 1646 01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:59.640 I just think it's fun to watch h what they 1647 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.319 what they do with the power of FMV, Like, it's 1648 01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:09.279 so wild to me that we we can play with 1649 01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:13.399 the realities like this, and I don't know, I get 1650 01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:14.760 really immersed in the scrap. 1651 01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:15.760 I love it. 1652 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:18.359 Mary, Can I read you this not says for Road 1653 01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:18.880 to Empress? 1654 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:19.159 Yes? 1655 01:23:19.159 --> 01:23:23.000 Please, You've never played a game like this before. Road 1656 01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.279 to Empress is a cinematic palace adventure where your choices 1657 01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:32.159 decide everyone's fate. Tackle one hundred plus story branches in 1658 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:36.960 a high mortality rate with charm, wisdom, and courage. Question 1659 01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:42.439 mark first survive. Wow ye that. 1660 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:45.439 The rest of the game is translated as beautifully as 1661 01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:46.359 this description. 1662 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:52.399 It's there's it's so good. Wow, I cannot wait for 1663 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.640 you to play it. And also the stories are like, legit, 1664 01:23:54.840 --> 01:23:58.840 this is my my shitty reading of this for you. 1665 01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:03.560 It is genuinely interesting game. It is a very positive 1666 01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:08.720 on Steam, so I'm not the only person here. Somebody 1667 01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:11.640 one of the top Steam reviews is never mind. I'm 1668 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:12.520 actually not gonna read. 1669 01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:24.319 Have you guys played Detroit Become Human? More like this section, 1670 01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:27.119 which is probably not a good thing for this game. 1671 01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:30.800 Oh my god, this is uh, this is great. Thank 1672 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:34.920 you you've like this. Better not unleash anything within me. 1673 01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:36.800 This is so nice. 1674 01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:41.920 Cool Mary, you also played Keeper? 1675 01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:43.000 Yeah? 1676 01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:48.960 Has anyone else played this new Uh? I think it's fine. 1677 01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:49.960 No, not yet. 1678 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:55.520 I'm also biased because I just like double fines, so 1679 01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:59.359 just throw that one out there. But anyway, Keeper is 1680 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:04.600 it's so cute, you guys. You are a lighthouse atsh 1681 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:10.159 Atmospheric is shit really knows its audience you are. It's 1682 01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:13.840 such an imaginative little world filled with I would say, it's. 1683 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:16.279 Like I wanted to look this up. I should have 1684 01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:17.560 looked this up before we did this. 1685 01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:20.840 But the audio sounds like macnarium, you guys, and it's 1686 01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:27.279 like half natural environments with like greenery and you know, 1687 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.520 jungle or you know. But then like the animals that 1688 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:33.520 you're coming across are mechanical. They look like they're made 1689 01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:37.560 out of gears and parts, and you yourself are an 1690 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:43.560 actual walking lighthouse. It's very Holl's moving castle. You have 1691 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:48.359 these like tentacle leggies, and your wobbly almost like you're 1692 01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:50.560 made out of four pieces that are stacked, and you 1693 01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:53.680 have this kind of like wibbly wobbly movement to you. 1694 01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:55.920 Oh, it's great. It's very simple. 1695 01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:59.439 You walk and you move your light and you can 1696 01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:00.319 focus your light. 1697 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:01.439 That's it. 1698 01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:04.680 It's it's very simple mechanically, and the puzzles also kind 1699 01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:06.319 of reflect that simple nature of it. 1700 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:07.520 This is not a hard game. 1701 01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:10.840 I think younger people could play this game, but I 1702 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:15.399 think older people could enjoy the simplicity of Hey, there's 1703 01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:18.560 some kind of like blight in this world, some kind 1704 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.439 of rot, and when you shine your light on it 1705 01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.800 doesn't like that. So you're kind of like curing the 1706 01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:23.239 world of. 1707 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:26.920 These issues or these woes. And also like maybe. 1708 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:31.039 There's you know, a door that can open, so you 1709 01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:32.840 need to shine your light to open the door. But 1710 01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:34.920 when you stop shining your light, the door closes, okay, 1711 01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:35.880 and how do you solve this? 1712 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.159 You end up getting a bird. 1713 01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:38.000 The bird. 1714 01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:40.640 The bird is so cute and it also kind of 1715 01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:43.399 it stays on your lighthouse like a hat, which I love, 1716 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.760 and you can send him out to help you solve puzzles. 1717 01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:47.800 He's got weight. 1718 01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:49.800 To him, right, so maybe like maybe there's like a 1719 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:51.640 weight puzzle where you need your bird on there, but 1720 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:53.880 you also need to be able to get him back 1721 01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:55.680 on times so you can get through these doors and 1722 01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:58.920 get to the next area. I think it's designed very 1723 01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:02.840 very simply, but very well where it won't let you 1724 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:03.479 move forward. 1725 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:04.439 You can't break it. 1726 01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:07.840 You just got to like solve these simplistic puzzles. But 1727 01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:11.079 I find it so cathartic to play a game like 1728 01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:12.680 this where it's just like I know what you're trying 1729 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:14.680 to get me to do, and I can solve this 1730 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:17.079 in like thirty seconds or less, and I do, and 1731 01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:20.560 I feel really smart about it. The puzzles do get smarter. 1732 01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:24.000 I think they get a little stronger. About halfway through 1733 01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:27.880 the game. There's a town that you get to where 1734 01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.800 you will find I love this. You will find a 1735 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:34.920 button that you push everything you basically push with your 1736 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.680 light and when you do it, your bird turns into 1737 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:41.680 an egg. So it's going backwards in time, and so 1738 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:46.560 you have to like push time forwards and backwards and. 1739 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:49.000 Use your bird as a bird or your bird as 1740 01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:50.560 an egg to get through these puzzles. 1741 01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:53.239 And I remember being like, that's fucking smart, and it's 1742 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.079 really fun, and it's visually very appealing to turn your 1743 01:27:56.079 --> 01:28:00.319 bird into an egg. So rad it's cute, it's super cute. 1744 01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:04.560 I think it's I think it's brilliantly executed. I think 1745 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:07.399 they did such a good job with the just the 1746 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:10.840 atmosphere and the thoughtfulness of it. And again, the music 1747 01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.319 is so delightful. I thought it was like the guy 1748 01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:15.520 who did Machinarium. I don't know who did the soundtrack, 1749 01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:18.000 but it's it's got that mechanical vibe to it, you 1750 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:19.800 know I'm talking about you know when you played Machinarium 1751 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:23.000 and it was like everything sounded like the mechanics of 1752 01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:25.199 a tool chest. And that's what this sounds like too. 1753 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:29.960 It sounds like a toolbox, but it also is whimsical 1754 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:33.640 and lighthearted. You also change forms multiple times. I will 1755 01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:36.880 not spoil anything else, but like you're not a lighthouse 1756 01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:37.800 the entire time. 1757 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:38.640 It allows you. 1758 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.399 To like change forms, which changes your mechanics and also 1759 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:45.640 changes the puzzles. It mixes it up a lot. I 1760 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:48.319 really do think this game is an absolute delight. My 1761 01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:50.520 one thing that I have to say that it did 1762 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.600 not care that I was unfortunate, is that doesn't play 1763 01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:57.000 great on the steam Deck. It's chugging on my steam 1764 01:28:57.039 --> 01:28:58.600 deck and I love to play a game like this 1765 01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:01.439 on my steam deck. But there's a couple times the 1766 01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:05.199 game is just straight up slowed to like ten frames 1767 01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:06.479 and I had to get out. 1768 01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:09.640 They need to release something new. 1769 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:10.600 I agree. 1770 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:14.760 I appreciate the not like going bonkers on constant hardware 1771 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:18.239 and stuff, but like I Ninja guid In four was 1772 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:20.760 another one of these. Yes, it was these things that 1773 01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:22.399 you think should just. 1774 01:29:22.520 --> 01:29:25.359 You work fine, want it to work fine, and it 1775 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:26.000 just doesn't. 1776 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:29.880 Yeah. Yeah, it's a bummer. 1777 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:30.680 It is a bummer. 1778 01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:33.279 So what I will say is, if you're interested in 1779 01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:37.800 Keeyer Keeper, I would recommend it for console or PC, 1780 01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:42.680 probably not Steam deck. Unfortunately, I for the record, because 1781 01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:46.720 I've been traveling so damn much. I've played Keeper completely 1782 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:50.520 on my steam deck and I've gotten through it, but 1783 01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:54.600 I can't say that it was always the best experience 1784 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:58.960 when it was chugging like that, but it's nevertheless with 1785 01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:04.600 those small with that small technical issue, I absolutely fully 1786 01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:08.119 recommend this atmospheric puzzler. 1787 01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:08.600 Uh. 1788 01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:12.039 It's it's just so sweet, you guys, And like every 1789 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:14.399 time I'm done playing it, all these like there's these 1790 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:16.520 tiny little animals that are constantly in the world, and 1791 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:18.399 anytime you solve an area or you solve a puzzle, 1792 01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:20.720 they're kind of just like yeah, and they give you 1793 01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:22.640 these little cheers and stuff like that, and it just gives 1794 01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:26.279 you that that like good feeling in your core of 1795 01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:29.760 like I helped I've helped this little town and I 1796 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:33.000 am so smart and I and you're just a little lighthouse, 1797 01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:35.039 you guys. I don't know how else you can get 1798 01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:37.199 more whimsical than that. Double Find always does stuff like 1799 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:38.760 this where they put you in a universe where you're like, 1800 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.680 this is so adorable, this is so sweet, it's so pure, 1801 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:44.039 it's it's so lovely. 1802 01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:44.720 There's nothing. 1803 01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:47.199 I don't think there's any talking in this entire there's 1804 01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:50.399 not a word in this game. There's no humans. It's 1805 01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:53.800 like just it's it's all done through visual design. Every 1806 01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:55.239 once in a while has to put up a tiny 1807 01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:57.880 piece of UI that says you can focus your light, 1808 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:00.159 you know, and that's just to help guide you in 1809 01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:01.560 case you're like really slow. 1810 01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:06.319 I'm curious if this is the future of Xbox. I 1811 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.079 feel like we've seen like seven different futures of the 1812 01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:12.159 Xbox that could happen, and one of them was we're 1813 01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:15.720 gonna buy up tons and tons and tons of devs. Yeah, 1814 01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:19.439 and then like have games come out. They're almost like movies. 1815 01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:22.399 Like this game, it's not a whole lot to do. 1816 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:25.640 It's it's an experience as much as it is a game, 1817 01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:27.399 and you could have it over the course of a 1818 01:31:27.399 --> 01:31:31.239 weekend or maybe two weekends. And it makes a real 1819 01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:35.800 case for the game pass model for sure. Yeah, but 1820 01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:38.600 I don't know. Like when I saw the Double Find 1821 01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:40.800 when they acquire Double Fine, I was like, that's definitely 1822 01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.600 the future, Like that's what they're gonna do. But now 1823 01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.720 I don't know. Like I hope that this sort of 1824 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:48.359 stuff gets to keep getting made. 1825 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:50.159 I agree a little worried that it won't. 1826 01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:54.119 I mean, I'm hoping as well. I like I back 1827 01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:57.439 you up here. Like Laika just released their new trailer 1828 01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.399 for their next game or sorry, their next movie, because 1829 01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:03.479 they're a claymation studio. Anyone who doesn't know, likea they 1830 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:07.199 made like Kujo and the Two Strings, Perry Norman, Oh 1831 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:11.119 my God, like all your favorites. It's all made Byleika Portland, 1832 01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:17.680 by the way, and that's where they're from. And I think, 1833 01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:20.479 like when I think of the whimsy of that, I 1834 01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:23.199 think of Keeper and the things that Double Find create, 1835 01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:26.920 like they feel so handmade. They feel like an artist 1836 01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:31.000 put their heart into a game, and I love that shit. 1837 01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:33.359 That's like why I get so excited about games. When 1838 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:35.319 you can tell someone put their heart into a piece. 1839 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:40.079 It would break my heart for them to like mess 1840 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.600 with a studio like Double Fine. Keeper to me was 1841 01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:46.479 like a promise kept of like, oh, you're allowing them 1842 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:47.000 to make this. 1843 01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:49.399 I can tell they didn't push them too hard. 1844 01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:53.399 Or like make this too dirty or like public for public, 1845 01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:57.279 like consuming like this is an art piece and it's 1846 01:32:57.319 --> 01:33:00.880 beautiful and it's really well done, and continue to leave 1847 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:02.760 them alone because they're they're doing great stuff. 1848 01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:06.199 I definitely want to try to keep her out for sure. 1849 01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:10.479 It's also like I loved Psycho Knots too. 1850 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:13.039 I loved Psycho Knots too. They're killing it when they're on. 1851 01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:13.439 They're on. 1852 01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:17.279 A lot of Double Fine stuff has not clicked with me. 1853 01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:19.960 I always wanted to like a lot of it more 1854 01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:22.359 than I did. Grim Fandango seamed up my alley and 1855 01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:26.079 then I just couldn't get through it. Same with the 1856 01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:30.600 first Psychoots and I want to say, what was the 1857 01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:31.840 Kickstarter one they did? 1858 01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:35.760 The first Kickstar Click Adventures was kind of weird for me, 1859 01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:37.920 and I forget the name of that one. 1860 01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:43.920 I feel so bad because I all their games I 1861 01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.159 want to like more than I do. They're not bad, 1862 01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:48.000 it's always want to like them more than I do. 1863 01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:53.199 And my favorite Double Fine production is the documentary. It's 1864 01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:55.359 I think they made like one of the best documentaries. 1865 01:33:55.720 --> 01:33:56.600 I think it's because. 1866 01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:01.000 Tim Schaeffer is like a gift to to humanity. I 1867 01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:03.920 just think he's like a sweet, sweet boy. 1868 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.439 Yeah, I like I did like Brutal Legend, actually Brutal Legend, 1869 01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:11.079 but I like I like Psychoots two quite a bit. 1870 01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:12.640 So I want to check this game out because I 1871 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:14.039 feel like they've been getting me lately. 1872 01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:16.399 I also think this is like the right choice of 1873 01:34:16.520 --> 01:34:18.520 just if it's gonna be about the art style just 1874 01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:21.600 truly get out of their way. Like Costume Quest was 1875 01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:24.840 a game where I wish that that was just walking 1876 01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:27.720 around because every time I got into combat it was. 1877 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.079 I didn't even know there's combat and costume quests. 1878 01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:33.159 It's it's turn based RPG but made for like six 1879 01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:37.680 year olds. Great brutal, but the art is some of 1880 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:39.600 my favorite art in the game and the vibe, like 1881 01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:42.760 I wish that was the game that was playing right now. Yeah, 1882 01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:45.520 I should see if there's a mod that removes the 1883 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:48.640 combat from that game, that'd be great. 1884 01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:52.319 I think I think this game is one of it's 1885 01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:54.760 of one of Double Find's best. I think this is 1886 01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:58.600 one of the best games that they've made ever. I 1887 01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.760 do think it's simple, and so I just caveat that 1888 01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:02.680 with it. If you're like I want like a really 1889 01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:05.279 tough puzzler, I just don't think that's what this is. 1890 01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:09.760 This is a whimsical treat for the eyes with some 1891 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:13.039 light light puzzles, light puzzles that. 1892 01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:13.880 You get to enjoy. 1893 01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:16.760 I have not been stumped once, but I have enjoyed 1894 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:18.600 my experience with it nicely. 1895 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:22.800 That reminds me of I mean, that's kind of got 1896 01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:27.199 like Inside Vibes. The puzzles are not crazy difficult inside 1897 01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:31.840 or Limbo, but it's there for the atmosphere. It's there 1898 01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:33.279 for the actual Like Journey, I. 1899 01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:35.960 Think Limbo pushed me a couple times where I was like, 1900 01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:37.600 what are you trying to get me to do here? 1901 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:43.920 And also get somewhat challenging inside Inside, the puzzles are more. 1902 01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:46.319 There's the one where you had to act like those 1903 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:48.239 robots being built, which I liked quite a bit. It 1904 01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:49.239 was more like play acting. 1905 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:53.079 Yeah, yeah, I think this one's easier, but I still 1906 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:54.199 think it's it's great. 1907 01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.880 I think you and I have both played more Hades 1908 01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.880 two yes Es Journey going. 1909 01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:04.000 I wish I could say to you that I have 1910 01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:05.800 beat this game, but I have put a lot more 1911 01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:08.640 hours into the game, and I still haven't beaten Hades too. 1912 01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.359 And okay, like, wait, so you haven't beaten like have 1913 01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:13.600 you gone to the surface yet? 1914 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.760 Yeah, but I haven't gotten the I haven't beaten the main. 1915 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:20.079 Boss Kronos or is there someone past Cronos. 1916 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:23.399 I don't know because I haven't beaten Gotch. 1917 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:27.960 I was asking, okay, gotcha, Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I'm 1918 01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:31.880 still I'm on my like really early on, I think 1919 01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:35.319 twelfth run or something. Oh okay, liking it quite a bit. Still, 1920 01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:41.239 I'm playing it like, yeah, it's great, it's funny. We 1921 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:44.520 talked about this last episode. But I feel as if 1922 01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:48.279 every time I go back to the game, or at 1923 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:50.359 least the four different times I played it, I have 1924 01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:53.359 a new favorite weapon, which I think is probably a 1925 01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:57.000 good sign that they design all the weapons very well. Yeah, 1926 01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:00.079 like they're just just today I was playing before I 1927 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:01.640 was like, oh shit, I should play Monster Train two 1928 01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.880 to talk about it. I was using the Witch's Staff, 1929 01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:07.239 the original weapon, the default weapon at the beginning of 1930 01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:08.640 the game. It was like, oh, this is actually pretty 1931 01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:13.239 rad too. It's sort of got Spear vibes. But it again, 1932 01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:16.359 the way that they design her cast and her the 1933 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:19.399 specials for each weapon, I think again makes her feel 1934 01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:23.800 very different from zagrias in the first game. But I 1935 01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:26.640 think I swear by the umbral torches still. I know, 1936 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:28.840 like a lot of people say they those didn't click 1937 01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:31.680 with them until a certain point, those right away, for 1938 01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:33.840 some reason, just felt great for me. I talk about 1939 01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:38.239 Haites two plant I have you played much Hates. 1940 01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:42.319 Two Kimirial with you cayuse this place to talk about 1941 01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:43.039 my feelings. 1942 01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:44.880 You don't like Hades or Hates two. 1943 01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:49.560 It's not even that this game. I love every person 1944 01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:51.720 who listens to the best us into post games. I 1945 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:53.560 want to be super clear. I love you, and if 1946 01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:56.760 you're this person, I love you. So many people have 1947 01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:59.840 been so worried about this game now being covered. It's 1948 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:03.600 getting enough attention, and I just want to assure you 1949 01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:08.039 people who made this game are they're literally Scrooge mcdoc. 1950 01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:12.520 They're streaming in a pool of dollars. They are a okay, 1951 01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:15.640 a billion people are playing this game. If you want 1952 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:18.119 to know why critics aren't talking about it is because 1953 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:21.199 it's more Haites and like and they change it up 1954 01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:24.079 a little bit. And personally, for me, I think like 1955 01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:27.359 Haities ten out of ten, this nine out of ten. 1956 01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:30.239 Do you know, it's really hard and not super interesting 1957 01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:32.479 always to talk about when a game goes from a 1958 01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:36.199 ten to a nine, because it's like, yeah, okay, Like 1959 01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:38.800 it's slightly different in the ways it's different are kind 1960 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:41.199 of personal taste based, and the story is not quite 1961 01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:43.640 as good, but it's still better than most stories, like 1962 01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:47.399 it ends up being. For me, it's like a weird 1963 01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:49.880 game to talk about. So I've played a fair bit. 1964 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:53.399 I enjoy my time doing it, but I find it, like, 1965 01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:58.039 I find it really challenging to talk about because it 1966 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:00.279 when a game. I guess that's say that thing winning 1967 01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:03.640 you're going from attend to nine. I don't want to 1968 01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:05.880 just be dunky on this game, because I like this 1969 01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:08.920 game a lot. But the only things I really have 1970 01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.840 to say are like, well, it's not as interesting or 1971 01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:16.000 good as the previous one, and that's like not, that's 1972 01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.039 not fine, it's crazy. 1973 01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:20.680 Yeah, I feel that. I don't think it's doing anything 1974 01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.279 crazy to change the formula, and I'm fine with more hades. 1975 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:25.640 I'm hiking it quite a bit, yeah, which is which 1976 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:26.720 is but I hear. 1977 01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:29.319 What you're saying too, which is like I will just say, like, 1978 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:32.880 largely as critics or just as you know, people who 1979 01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:34.760 play a shit ton of games, our job is to 1980 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:38.680 talk about something that's like moving the medium forward or 1981 01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:41.680 is like really shocking us with like something that that's different. 1982 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:46.199 And Super Giant has done that its entire life, right, 1983 01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:49.920 Everything that it's done is so wild, Like Transistor was 1984 01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:52.840 like groundbreaking, and Pire was like a wild thing that 1985 01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:54.600 we all talked about for a really long time, even 1986 01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:57.680 though it didn't like grab Us, I. 1987 01:39:56.840 --> 01:40:00.760 I was gonna say you underappreciated. 1988 01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:02.680 Underappreciated for like how much it made you appreciate those 1989 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:04.560 characters and what it did with the story and how 1990 01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:07.279 it made people feel. Hades was like everyone's like, oh 1991 01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:10.960 my god, everybody's hot. Like it's so unbelievably good to play. 1992 01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:11.800 It's so smooth. 1993 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:14.039 It was our it was our goady like years ago, 1994 01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:15.840 and Hades too. 1995 01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:18.439 Is good. 1996 01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:22.640 Yeah, but it's Hades, And so it's a bit of 1997 01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:24.600 a change up for me to be like, well, I 1998 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:27.199 mean you you've you've made this game, You've already perfected 1999 01:40:27.199 --> 01:40:28.279 it in so many ways. 2000 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:32.760 It's like the kid where they've been like for four months, 2001 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:35.920 have been getting a's in class. Yeah, and then they 2002 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:38.640 like get like an A and people are like, hey, 2003 01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:40.359 like what do you have to say? And then you're 2004 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:43.039 just like, I don't know, you're doing great, like chill out, 2005 01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:45.600 like don't worry about it. You're like, I'm not going 2006 01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:47.960 to tell you're bad. You want me to tell you're good, Like. 2007 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:49.920 You're still going to Princeton Like we don't. 2008 01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:53.720 Yeah, Like it's it's all great. I will I cannot 2009 01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:58.880 wait to talk about whatever the studio does next. But yeah, 2010 01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:02.600 it also just has misun very honestly as a hole 2011 01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:04.159 metic conversation. I'm sorry. 2012 01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:07.399 This is the review that's actually about writing reviews, not 2013 01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:07.840 the game. 2014 01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:12.359 Yeah, there's just so many games. There's so many games. 2015 01:41:12.720 --> 01:41:16.279 Yeah, yeah, even in twenty twenty, the first game was 2016 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.359 way easier to spend like a fucking week just playing 2017 01:41:19.399 --> 01:41:21.119 through until your eyes bled. 2018 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:23.239 Now, not even just playing through, I mean even just 2019 01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:26.399 talking about like there's only so much time, and it's like, yeah, 2020 01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:29.119 do I again? Is this where I want to use 2021 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:29.920 my words? 2022 01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:32.079 Well, so I'm glad you came on because blipp oh, 2023 01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:34.079 I don't think Dan Mary Ray would have brought up 2024 01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:36.520 it's q up. We wouldn't have brought up. So there 2025 01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:38.119 are some people out there who hear about these and 2026 01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:39.359 then yard like, so. 2027 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:41.079 Many games I could tell you about. We could be 2028 01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:43.880 talking about Demon Schools coming out, y'all get me playing Demon. 2029 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:47.600 School, Elevator Pitch Each. 2030 01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:52.840 What if I told you it's like tactics, turn based persona. 2031 01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:54.640 You like those words, those good words? 2032 01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:56.239 Are you doing that? Because you know I do like 2033 01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:56.840 those words? 2034 01:41:57.199 --> 01:41:59.640 Yeah, And also that's literally what the game is can 2035 01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:01.399 you really not seeing any of this game? 2036 01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:05.039 No? Wait, this is great, just as the themes to 2037 01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:13.800 plant bringing up a game and then surprise of this. Uh, Chris, 2038 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:15.800 plant one breath. There are way too many games to 2039 01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:18.199 talk about planting the next breath? How have you not 2040 01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:24.560 heard of this game? I can call you out and 2041 01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:27.000 say you're being hypocritical. I'll look at your games. Don't 2042 01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:29.800 give me shipped for it. Okay, let me look at 2043 01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.560 the U r L. I dropped it chat fucking serial 2044 01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:35.800 killer using the zoom chat. Yeah, it's right. 2045 01:42:35.720 --> 01:42:37.960 Where I also put b RV need to use potty 2046 01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:42.159 power women school people. That's gone. 2047 01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:43.680 Oh yeah, this looks red. 2048 01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:46.800 This is like a mic coded game. 2049 01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:50.239 Tactics RPG persona. That's what it looks like. I could 2050 01:42:50.239 --> 01:42:55.640 tell you about games all day games, games on games educa. 2051 01:42:57.560 --> 01:42:59.560 That's a cool art style. It's weird. The environments look 2052 01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:09.600 like uh isometric Obsidian vibes like Path of the Oh God, 2053 01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:12.000 what am I thinking of? What is the pirate game 2054 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:15.920 that Obsidian made? It'll come to me. It looks like 2055 01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:18.880 it looks like Tides of Torment Newman era kind of vibes. 2056 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:23.199 The environments, but then the characters look different. Yeah, yeah, gorgeous. 2057 01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:24.560 I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one more. 2058 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:25.520 I'm gonna give you one more. 2059 01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:30.239 You play, thank you dead Fire. Okay, sorry, continue. 2060 01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:36.000 Trying Trine's Legacy. You playing Shrine's Legacy. I love trying 2061 01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:41.479 Shrine Shrines Legacy, A legacy of Shrines. It's like a 2062 01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:46.199 sixteen bit action RPG in the style of S and 2063 01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:48.520 E S, but unlike all these other ones are like, yeah, 2064 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:50.000 it's like in the style of SNS, but it's just 2065 01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:53.199 a modern game. It's like if you actually just had 2066 01:43:53.319 --> 01:43:56.760 a brand new Super Nintendo RPG that you like, somehow 2067 01:43:56.800 --> 01:44:01.600 totally missed. Ah the I'm just here to just shout games. 2068 01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:06.039 I'm just here to give games to people. Seventy eight 2069 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:10.319 reviews on Steam. This is the like bizarro world that 2070 01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:10.840 we live in. 2071 01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:11.399 Stop. 2072 01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:17.319 I'm just saying, like, I know you should listen. If 2073 01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:19.479 you're listening to us, you already bought Hades too. It's 2074 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:23.720 more just like what a bummer for the people who 2075 01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:26.680 make these games. A great for us, But this game 2076 01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:30.560 comes out kick it's it's great, it's a delight, and 2077 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:32.359 five years ago this would have been all we were 2078 01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:35.119 talking about. Seventy eight reviews on Steam brutal. 2079 01:44:35.399 --> 01:44:38.960 It looks great. All these look great. I but I'm 2080 01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:40.640 not going to have the time in December to play 2081 01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:42.880 these because I've got to catch up on the other 2082 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:44.640 game came out, and then. 2083 01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:48.880 I've got to play those because baby steps like next. 2084 01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:53.760 No, I'm not to your credit. You you got me 2085 01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:57.640 closer to considering it than anybody else has interesting. Dan 2086 01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:05.720 didn't like it, that's good. I think Outer World's two 2087 01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:08.439 might be the next one I play, because it seems 2088 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:12.359 digestible in the same way that Claire Obscure lengthwise was 2089 01:45:12.399 --> 01:45:17.039 pretty digestible, not that Claibscure wasn't sweeping in its own way. 2090 01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:20.920 Can I say something really? Uh? I think it's It's 2091 01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:22.800 one of the most mic things I've said in a while. 2092 01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:23.880 Yeah. 2093 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:25.800 One of my favorite wines I've had recently was a 2094 01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:30.199 Champagne and the couvet was called Claire Obscure from Salima 2095 01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:33.880 and Alan Cardai. In Champagne. It's fucking delicious if you 2096 01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:34.359 find it. 2097 01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:37.199 Do you think the game is named after that? 2098 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:39.880 No, I wish after a wine. 2099 01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:43.520 Oh so I will say that seeing it on the 2100 01:45:43.600 --> 01:45:46.560 Champagne I made me google it I didn't realize it's 2101 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:49.560 just the French term for kiarascuro, which I'm sure you 2102 01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:51.199 know plant because that's a plant thing to know. 2103 01:45:52.039 --> 01:45:54.119 No, it just means me I should know more of 2104 01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:56.000 my French, but I don't remember. I can say like 2105 01:45:56.640 --> 01:46:00.760 malta to jadu malto too, like that that sort of stuff. 2106 01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:03.199 Oh yeah, apologies to Italian listeners if we have any. 2107 01:46:03.239 --> 01:46:04.880 I just said, Chiara Scorer. I think. 2108 01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:08.920 I thought you were dunking on my fringe accent. 2109 01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:13.520 No, maybe I did say kiosky. I don't know, but yeah, 2110 01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:16.279 it just means light dark and uh, you know the 2111 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:19.239 like the Selima and Alan Cardoi are some of my 2112 01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:21.319 favorite producers, Champagne and so I saw that, I was like, 2113 01:46:21.319 --> 01:46:22.960 I'm going to buy this and drink it and it 2114 01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:24.880 was delicious. I loved it. 2115 01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:26.800 In that game that was that was something. 2116 01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:30.680 Remember what the end of that game? Oh yeah, wait quick? 2117 01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:33.600 Uh you're I really want to hear your opinion of 2118 01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:36.760 Claire Obscurer in three sentences, No, in one sentence, What 2119 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:38.880 did you think of Claire Obscure Expedition thirty three? 2120 01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:40.319 Read a book? 2121 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:46.479 Yeah? Did you like the game before the ending? 2122 01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:51.600 It's not my type of game on top of it 2123 01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:55.000 to begin with. Right, Yeah, I mean I I but 2124 01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:57.920 yet I love like a Dragon, I love Persona. I 2125 01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:00.760 can love it. Yeah, and there was a lot that 2126 01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:05.279 abound interesting about it. But uh yeah, it's not a 2127 01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:07.920 fan of when people are like, no, just trust me. 2128 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.720 I know the fights are just so repetitive. But you 2129 01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:13.079 Seena skipped to the end. I was. I wised up 2130 01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:18.000 to that. I said, YouTube, baby, I can skip to 2131 01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:21.039 that part, and let me tell you I was glad 2132 01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:22.560 that I did. Wow. 2133 01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:25.479 I'm seeing a pattern with you, Chris, Like. 2134 01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:27.880 You have good taste. 2135 01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:31.000 You are recognizing when a game hits like this peak 2136 01:47:31.279 --> 01:47:34.159 pop culture part where you're just like, I don't. 2137 01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:34.720 Know about that. 2138 01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:38.680 Have you played this fucking weird ass FMV game that 2139 01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:40.359 no one's talking about. 2140 01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:45.279 I can talk Hey, okay, okay, okay, ready about a 2141 01:47:45.279 --> 01:47:47.079 great game. I'm gonna tell you about a great game. 2142 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:48.479 It's called Sonic Racing. 2143 01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:52.079 Crist Yeah, baby, that's what we need. I can do 2144 01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:52.640 this all day. 2145 01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:53.800 I can talk about good plan. 2146 01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:58.000 Tactics. Plant can get down the slop with us, watch him. 2147 01:47:58.319 --> 01:48:01.479 Yeah, I'm just saying that I don't a story. Tell 2148 01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:04.760 me about the second story is about art is the 2149 01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:08.960 second I'm like, peace, yea, have. 2150 01:48:08.920 --> 01:48:12.039 You guys played Near Automata? It's about storytelling, and then 2151 01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:15.760 the more you play it the more because I love 2152 01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:17.800 you that you're not my bossing marg and just lay 2153 01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:19.279 into you. It's funny. 2154 01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:22.199 Yeah, this is very different than the time when I was. 2155 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:27.279 Yeah, no, I'm I I was a sucker for Clare obscure. 2156 01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:29.319 But I also like, I don't disagree with you. 2157 01:48:29.520 --> 01:48:32.880 More of a Stellar Blade, man, I know, I get yeah, 2158 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.439 hell yeah, I'm more of a Tales of a Rise. 2159 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.960 If you're not talking about the perils of slavery right 2160 01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:40.479 off the bat in your RPG, I'm not fucking interested. 2161 01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:47.000 Is what a weird year? Though, I got plenty of games. 2162 01:48:47.039 --> 01:48:50.159 I'm gonna play Out of Worlds too, Outer Worlds two, 2163 01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:54.560 and then after that, what am I going to play? 2164 01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:58.399 After that? I can kind of I got I gotta 2165 01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:00.920 switch to on the Way officially nice. I'm think I'm 2166 01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:04.680 gonna play Bonanza. I'm gonna try out Mario Kart, and 2167 01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:09.079 then Metroid Prime four and oh the only game, well, 2168 01:49:09.079 --> 01:49:11.119 I guess Metrod Prime four. I'm very curious about I 2169 01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:15.880 love that trilogy. Now it's not a trilogy anymore. I'm 2170 01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:20.159 looking forward to Octopath Traveler zero. Yeah, I'm curious. 2171 01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:22.319 That's it's a port of a mobile game, is that right? 2172 01:49:22.520 --> 01:49:27.399 No, So they did a whatever the previous one was called. 2173 01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:32.960 They made a mobile game. This is a prequel to 2174 01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.680 the entire series, but they're pulling design tenants from the 2175 01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:38.640 mobile game. So, but it's this is not the port 2176 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:41.199 of the mobile game. Okay, so this is its own game, 2177 01:49:41.279 --> 01:49:44.279 but they're you instead of having the eight characters, you 2178 01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:47.680 create your own and then you're recruiting something like thirty 2179 01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:51.439 in the vein of sweak it in. But it's it's 2180 01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:55.760 definitely oh you know what, it reminds me of Fire Emblem? Uh? 2181 01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:59.520 What the hell? Fire Emblem? What was the most recent 2182 01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:03.000 one called that I liked but most people didn't. It's 2183 01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:07.039 like looks like Pepsi, the most recent Fire Emblem like pulled, 2184 01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:13.039 like had like mobile game mechanics in it and mobile Pepsy. 2185 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:17.720 We all remember that's it? Yeah, and that reminds me 2186 01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:20.680 what they're doing with Octapath Traveler zero. So I am 2187 01:50:20.720 --> 01:50:24.680 cautiously curious about that game because a lot of it 2188 01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:27.560 sounds like stuff I really like. I like, I love 2189 01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:31.880 sweaking in. I like having that larger recruitment pool of characters. 2190 01:50:33.640 --> 01:50:34.760 So yeah, I'm curious about that. 2191 01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:36.399 Can you give you another game? 2192 01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:37.159 Yes? 2193 01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:39.079 Did you all play Kaisen? 2194 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:43.319 No? But I know I actually know what this is, 2195 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:44.279 but I did not play it. 2196 01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:47.760 Yeah, that's the good stuff. It's the good stuff. It's 2197 01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:50.479 a it's a puzzle game where you're designing the machines 2198 01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:53.520 that make stuff in automated factories like. 2199 01:50:55.479 --> 01:51:00.239 What like jiu jitsu Kaisen? It's an anime? 2200 01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:05.600 Oh no, I see Kais? Then no, I see what 2201 01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:08.119 you're doing. I was like, I don't remember a factory, 2202 01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:12.399 and I thought that was just an action anime where 2203 01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:15.319 they got stronger, and then you know, showed it stronger. 2204 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:24.800 You know, I I see it's Kais. You're not wrong, No, 2205 01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:27.079 you just you just make stuff. So it'll be like, oh, 2206 01:51:27.159 --> 01:51:29.640 do you want to make radios? And then you design 2207 01:51:29.640 --> 01:51:32.199 the machines that make the radios. But then between that, 2208 01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:35.079 there's a story where you're in a nineteen eighties factory 2209 01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:39.319 and you are a guy Jean who has moved to 2210 01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:42.359 Japan and your family's like, hey, how is it out there? 2211 01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:46.479 And the answer is rough because people don't really want 2212 01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:48.880 you there, and you know what, they also don't really 2213 01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:52.199 want the women who work in your factory. Uh. It 2214 01:51:52.399 --> 01:51:55.319 is a story about what it's like to be in 2215 01:51:55.520 --> 01:52:03.199 nineteen eighties Japan. Pull alongside this great puzzle. It's really good. Cool. 2216 01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:04.319 I don't know. 2217 01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:07.840 I wait, you're saying it's like a puzzle game, but 2218 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:12.119 there's like severe sexism rampant throughout the experience. 2219 01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:17.000 But it's more I play it every day. 2220 01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:20.720 It's just very navigating one. 2221 01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:22.720 I live it. 2222 01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:23.399 It's more. 2223 01:52:25.079 --> 01:52:29.119 Birds like it's slice of life. It's what I would say. 2224 01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:31.119 It's like each episode between it it's like, oh, you're 2225 01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:33.880 out for dinner, and then it's like, oh, why does 2226 01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:36.600 she not have a higher job. It seems like she 2227 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:39.560 knows everything that's going on here, like piecing it together, 2228 01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:41.880 that sort of thing. And then as it goes on, 2229 01:52:42.439 --> 01:52:44.039 things get better. I will say that. 2230 01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:51.199 Okay, well, all right, plenty of recommendations, plenty for us 2231 01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:55.159 to catch up on when I got time. Do you 2232 01:52:55.199 --> 01:52:56.479 want to talk about emails? 2233 01:52:56.760 --> 01:52:59.720 Let's talk about them? How do they get there? 2234 01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:03.359 Okay? As always, you can run into fire Escape cast 2235 01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:06.680 at gmail dot com any questions, comments, concerns, But I 2236 01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:08.399 mean the questions we might read him on the air. 2237 01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:11.199 We have a couple tonight. There were a few dance 2238 01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:13.520 specific ones that I did not do because he is 2239 01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:19.119 gallivanting in New Jersey. Uh, Mary, do you want to 2240 01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:22.560 read this first one from Alex in is it? Mary? 2241 01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:25.720 Do you know? Is it Bendigo or Bendigo Australia. Bendigo? 2242 01:53:26.159 --> 01:53:27.039 It's Bendigo. 2243 01:53:27.920 --> 01:53:34.000 Oh I skinny Dodge, It's okay from Alex a Offendigo. 2244 01:53:40.720 --> 01:53:43.680 Hello, Chicky Babes, Thank you. That's so cute. 2245 01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:48.239 I recently fucked up making a cake, absolutely beefed it. 2246 01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:52.079 What a goddamn mess. If I was a surgeon, that 2247 01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:53.319 baby would be dead. 2248 01:53:54.039 --> 01:53:57.239 My god, we have What have we done to Alex? 2249 01:53:57.640 --> 01:54:01.680 Still ate it though, just like that surgeon. So what 2250 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:05.119 low steaks thing have you fucked up recently? How many 2251 01:54:05.239 --> 01:54:09.159 shoe incidents has Mary been involved in? Cheers Alex and 2252 01:54:09.479 --> 01:54:14.720 Bendigo Australia, Chris. The shoe incident I think is referring 2253 01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:16.840 to when I was recently in Japan. 2254 01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:20.079 I uh thought they. 2255 01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:22.000 Said take off your shoes before entering, and I saw 2256 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:23.640 a bunch of sandals, and so I assumed I was 2257 01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:25.359 supposed to put on the sandals. And then they yelled 2258 01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:27.600 at me and I had put on somebody else's sandals 2259 01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:28.199 and walked. 2260 01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:29.000 Inside the house. 2261 01:54:30.159 --> 01:54:32.399 I do that kind of ship a lot in my life. 2262 01:54:32.399 --> 01:54:35.800 I also knocked down a wall. She thought a wall 2263 01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:40.199 was a door sliding There was a sliding door into 2264 01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:43.319 a into like an omacase in Japan, and she knocked 2265 01:54:43.319 --> 01:54:45.199 down the entire wall. MM. 2266 01:54:51.039 --> 01:54:55.439 Yeah, I'm a fucking I'm a fucking idiot, and I 2267 01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:58.840 do this most of my life. I think that I 2268 01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:06.680 have like gotten really comfortable with embarrassing myself. I mean, 2269 01:55:06.720 --> 01:55:09.199 I just think I I think I'm smart in so 2270 01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:14.640 many ways. I have all these talents, and I have 2271 01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:20.640 this unbelievable ability, though, to just ruthlessly embarrass myself in public. 2272 01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:24.159 I don't think it was that recent, but like, I 2273 01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:28.000 bowl now, and there's like this always fun joke where 2274 01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:30.760 someone's gonna bowl and they swing the ball behind them 2275 01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:34.960 and you and you grab it, and that's funny because 2276 01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:36.960 then they're like, where's my ball, and it's like I 2277 01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:44.800 took it, and yeah, snap it. And I leaned in 2278 01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:47.039 too far, so when they threw the ball back, it 2279 01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:48.039 hit me right in the. 2280 01:55:47.920 --> 01:55:50.800 Face and it hurt pretty badly. 2281 01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:55.359 I know, but it's also like my fault because I 2282 01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:59.760 was the pranker, so I had to like brush it 2283 01:55:59.800 --> 01:56:02.760 off and be like I got you, Like my face 2284 01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:04.760 was there when you were trying to swing the ball, 2285 01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:09.079 but it actually really hurt to go to the bathroom 2286 01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:11.800 and like process my face concussion. 2287 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:14.720 I just read your nose broken. 2288 01:56:15.279 --> 01:56:15.600 It was. 2289 01:56:17.279 --> 01:56:18.000 Got you good. 2290 01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:22.239 You guys, you should have seen the look on your face. 2291 01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:28.399 Idiot Mary, remind us of the name of your. 2292 01:56:28.359 --> 01:56:30.840 Team, the pinsy low hands. 2293 01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:33.279 What was the offensive one that you did not go with. 2294 01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.960 Full penetration that I remember that one? 2295 01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:40.119 Yeah, I was not allowed. Yeah. 2296 01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:45.359 There are times where I'm you've said a few things 2297 01:56:45.640 --> 01:56:49.399 or just over the years where I will clip it 2298 01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:56.399 and Mic to file under blackmail. It's not fair. If 2299 01:56:56.399 --> 01:56:58.079 I had your just god, I would do the same 2300 01:56:58.119 --> 01:56:58.960 for you. 2301 01:56:59.359 --> 01:57:03.439 Mike says, thaying, oh yeah, you got You've got plenty 2302 01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:04.760 of you got dirt on me. 2303 01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:09.079 There's some there's some bad ones. There's some real bad ones. 2304 01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:11.319 There was definitely a time where I probably should have 2305 01:57:11.399 --> 01:57:16.279 stopped listening as somebody who asked to report things to HR, 2306 01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:18.680 but I was happy not to, you know. Oh yeah, 2307 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:20.000 it worked out in the long run. 2308 01:57:20.239 --> 01:57:21.399 Yeah, we're doing fine. 2309 01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:21.760 Now. 2310 01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:22.960 You own nobody nothing. 2311 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:24.640 I don't know anybody. 2312 01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:25.960 You're your own HR. 2313 01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:29.199 I like, except for my patrons, who I love, and 2314 01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:31.279 I'm so glad that you've chosen to be one of them. 2315 01:57:31.359 --> 01:57:32.680 Are they HR in a way? 2316 01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:34.039 Are they? 2317 01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:34.239 What? 2318 01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:35.439 Are they your HR? 2319 01:57:36.960 --> 01:57:39.079 I mean they're everything. They can decide to not pay 2320 01:57:39.119 --> 01:57:39.680 me anymore. 2321 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:46.039 I I don't know if this qualifies as low steaks. 2322 01:57:46.199 --> 01:57:50.319 I like, body slammed a toddler the other day on accident. 2323 01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:52.800 What so I guess I could fuck that. I guess 2324 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:56.640 that counts as a fuck up. Yeah it was fine, 2325 01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:58.640 it wasn't it. Actually it kind of really was not 2326 01:57:58.760 --> 01:57:59.359 my fault. 2327 01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:01.560 It was the toddlers. 2328 01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:03.680 I was. I was on a run in the morning, 2329 01:58:03.800 --> 01:58:05.239 and I will say, the one thing I could have 2330 01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:07.439 done better is not go for a run when like 2331 01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:11.960 students at the elementary school, middle school, high school. I 2332 01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:14.159 live in a town that the city is literally a 2333 01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:17.479 square mile, so there's one two times a day when 2334 01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.279 like all the students are either coming or going from 2335 01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:22.439 to or from their school. I should not go for 2336 01:58:22.479 --> 01:58:24.520 a run when that's happening, because the streets are flooded 2337 01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:28.119 with parents and kids. And whatnot. So I was running 2338 01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:30.880 in the bike lane on the street to get off 2339 01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:35.039 the sidewalk because again, the sidewalks are crowded, and I 2340 01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:36.359 was running in the bike lane, which is kind of 2341 01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:39.079 where pedestrians you're not technically supposed to, but it just 2342 01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.199 it happens here because their streets are narrow, and at 2343 01:58:42.199 --> 01:58:45.920 a certain point I realized I just kind of you 2344 01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:48.359 know how you when you're a crossing the street, you 2345 01:58:48.359 --> 01:58:50.800 can see a tele a driver does not see you 2346 01:58:50.840 --> 01:58:52.399 and might hit you, so you just kind of have 2347 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:56.039 to let them do their thing. I in order to 2348 01:58:56.079 --> 01:58:59.039 avoid that happening for a driver that was gonna was 2349 01:58:59.279 --> 01:59:03.239 looking down the one way the wrong way he was 2350 01:59:03.279 --> 01:59:04.840 about to turn, I was like, this driver doesn't see me, 2351 01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:08.520 so I'm gonna dart into the sidewalk. So I darted 2352 01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:11.359 between two cars from the bike lane to the sidewalk, 2353 01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:13.920 and I dodged one kid. I was like, oh, right, 2354 01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.159 there are kids, and I was like coming down off 2355 01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:17.920 that because I had dodged, I was like, oh, I 2356 01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:20.319 gotta be more careful. And then so I kind of 2357 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:23.279 let my guard down, and all of a sudden, this 2358 01:59:23.439 --> 01:59:25.880 kid runs out from their front yard in front of 2359 01:59:25.880 --> 01:59:29.119 their brownstone, and I like, I hit him pretty hard. 2360 01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:31.600 I wasn't think like thankfully, I was not at my 2361 01:59:31.640 --> 01:59:35.039 full like full speed, like I don't know what which 2362 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:38.000 is like super fat. But the thing I good thing 2363 01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:39.600 I wasn't at my three and a half minute mile 2364 01:59:39.640 --> 01:59:41.479 speed because that would have been that kid would be 2365 01:59:41.479 --> 01:59:48.279 fucking me. That kid would be on the pavements. Anybody 2366 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:52.960 got to get this kid off the sidewalk. No. I 2367 01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:57.399 I hit this kid and he went down thankfully into 2368 01:59:57.520 --> 02:00:00.399 the like soil around the tree, not the side sidewalk, 2369 02:00:01.199 --> 02:00:05.720 and I like immediately and the parents but like, here's 2370 02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:08.520 the thing. His dad was like, oh no, he ran 2371 02:00:08.520 --> 02:00:10.880 in the way he was he's being an idiot. I 2372 02:00:10.920 --> 02:00:13.520 was like, a good day, okay, wells is he okay? 2373 02:00:13.560 --> 02:00:16.000 He's like yeah, he's fine. The kids didn't even like 2374 02:00:16.079 --> 02:00:18.000 cry or anything. And I like decked him. 2375 02:00:18.079 --> 02:00:22.319 Nah. I felt like they're made of something else. Yeah, 2376 02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:25.079 they have the building us balance back. 2377 02:00:25.399 --> 02:00:28.439 I live in like prime. Well, to be fair, any 2378 02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:30.199 parents should be concerned if their kid gets body slam 2379 02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:35.359 by a stranger, but like I live in prime angry 2380 02:00:35.399 --> 02:00:38.640 angry parent, freak out parent territory. So I was like, oh, 2381 02:00:38.680 --> 02:00:39.800 I'm not going to hear the end of this. I'm 2382 02:00:39.800 --> 02:00:41.560 gonna have to like this. They're gonna call the cops. 2383 02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:43.800 And I was like, I'm so sorry. I was. I 2384 02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:45.439 just I was coming off the streets so I didn't 2385 02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:47.920 get hit by a car. Basically, it's sorry, it's very crowded. 2386 02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:49.439 That was totally on me. Is he okay? He's like, yeah, 2387 02:00:49.439 --> 02:00:51.000 he's fine, he's an idiot. I was like, all right, 2388 02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:53.720 and I and then I left, So I guess I 2389 02:00:53.760 --> 02:00:56.560 fucked up. But also, uh, this kid he was he 2390 02:00:56.720 --> 02:01:02.079 ran out like onto the crowded sidewalk, like without looking. Yeah, 2391 02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:05.319 I shouldn't have been running. That was percent my fault. 2392 02:01:05.479 --> 02:01:07.359 To be clear, it was not the toddler's fault. I 2393 02:01:07.399 --> 02:01:09.359 don't want to be blaming him. I'm just getting ahead 2394 02:01:09.359 --> 02:01:11.840 of the people who think I like am blame a toddler. 2395 02:01:12.239 --> 02:01:15.119 I'm not. If anything, the dad was probably too chill 2396 02:01:15.159 --> 02:01:17.199 about what happened, but I'm not a parent. I'm not 2397 02:01:17.199 --> 02:01:19.239 about to criticize how their parent. He knows his kid 2398 02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:19.720 better than I do. 2399 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:22.000 He knews kid was an idiot. 2400 02:01:22.039 --> 02:01:24.920 Immediately the kid you you hurt his child, and his 2401 02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:29.600 immediate reaction was my stupid child was in your way. 2402 02:01:29.680 --> 02:01:31.880 Good sir, enjoy your run. 2403 02:01:32.279 --> 02:01:34.560 Yeah no, I didn't even I really didn't. Didn't know 2404 02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:36.560 how to process it because I just kept running. You know, 2405 02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:39.680 I had a three fifteen mile to run, you know 2406 02:01:39.720 --> 02:01:42.680 what I mean. But that's actually not low stakes but 2407 02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:45.600 low steaks. Yeah, I mean, to Alex's point, I fuck 2408 02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:48.279 up in the kitchen like every night, but you know, 2409 02:01:48.520 --> 02:01:51.039 you improv. That's why I don't like baking, because you 2410 02:01:51.039 --> 02:01:54.119 fuck up baking and it just doesn't work over the chemistry. 2411 02:01:54.159 --> 02:01:55.960 The science is not there. It does. It comes out 2412 02:01:56.039 --> 02:01:59.640 mush or it comes out like disgusting cooking. You can 2413 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:03.880 cover your mistakes. That's why I like cooking. Yeah. 2414 02:02:03.960 --> 02:02:07.039 I was making some salmon in the oven for my 2415 02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:10.239 wife and my my my in laws lived near us, 2416 02:02:10.640 --> 02:02:12.359 but I was going out to the movie. I was like, oh, 2417 02:02:12.439 --> 02:02:14.039 I got it in the oven. I got it all set. 2418 02:02:14.319 --> 02:02:16.359 The alarm went off on my phone to let me know, hey, 2419 02:02:16.359 --> 02:02:17.960 you got to go take that out, and I was like, yeah, yeah, 2420 02:02:17.960 --> 02:02:18.640 I'm gonna go do that. 2421 02:02:18.880 --> 02:02:20.960 I know, fun to do, I know time. 2422 02:02:21.760 --> 02:02:23.760 Yeah, and then I forgot and it was like ten 2423 02:02:23.800 --> 02:02:26.800 minutes past and here's what I did. They weren't back yet, 2424 02:02:27.119 --> 02:02:29.199 put it in the fridge. I was like, oh yeah, 2425 02:02:29.199 --> 02:02:31.399 you can warm it up whenever you're ready. And then 2426 02:02:31.399 --> 02:02:33.279 when they're like, oh yeah, this is like it was 2427 02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:35.079 a little bit tough, I was like, oh yeah, you 2428 02:02:35.159 --> 02:02:36.159 overhear did it? 2429 02:02:36.920 --> 02:02:40.520 You gas lit them? You told them it was their fault. 2430 02:02:41.039 --> 02:02:44.399 Damn right it did. Yeah, pretty smart. 2431 02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:47.079 Do you eat a lot of salmon, by the way, Yeah, 2432 02:02:47.079 --> 02:02:50.199 of course they do. Well. Sorry, I love it. 2433 02:02:51.079 --> 02:02:52.239 I can't wait for this joke. 2434 02:02:52.640 --> 02:02:54.399 It's not a joke. I was gonna tell you. I 2435 02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:56.279 was going to tell you my favorite way to prepare salmon, 2436 02:02:56.319 --> 02:02:56.920 which I like. 2437 02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:58.920 Oh no, no, I do want to hear it. 2438 02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:03.359 Miso blaze, like marinate it all day and then just 2439 02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:05.880 straight up put put the top rack of the oven 2440 02:03:05.960 --> 02:03:08.319 right under the broiler, broil it for like five minutes. 2441 02:03:09.319 --> 02:03:12.039 The miso glaze gets like caramelized, and then it's just 2442 02:03:12.079 --> 02:03:14.680 fucking perfect. Unless it's a very fat piece of salmon. 2443 02:03:14.680 --> 02:03:15.840 Then you have to cook it. 2444 02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:17.399 Do you cook it for like maybe like tin and 2445 02:03:17.399 --> 02:03:18.960 then you broil at the last fibe. 2446 02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:25.840 No, it's just broiling, baby, just yeah, yeah, is it raw? No? 2447 02:03:25.960 --> 02:03:27.880 I take it out, it's room temperature for a while, 2448 02:03:27.920 --> 02:03:30.640 like an hour before him. But yeah, it's raw salmon 2449 02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:34.399 unless again, unless you have like a fat piece of salmon. 2450 02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:36.399 I mean, broiling is easy for the eye test. It's 2451 02:03:36.439 --> 02:03:38.720 like it'll split in the middle and you can tell 2452 02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:39.239 when it's done. 2453 02:03:39.279 --> 02:03:41.159 Oh okay, so it's it's cooked all the way through. 2454 02:03:41.520 --> 02:03:44.399 Oh yeah, I'm not. I if anything, I'm kind of 2455 02:03:44.479 --> 02:03:48.000 guilty of overcooking salmon. I don't love undercooks. I mean 2456 02:03:48.119 --> 02:03:51.720 I like, I like crudo, I like or I like sushi, 2457 02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:53.560 but I don't love the. 2458 02:03:54.479 --> 02:03:56.079 Flaky or it needs to be a sushi. 2459 02:03:56.399 --> 02:03:58.800 Yeah yeah, yeah, flaky. It gets flaky when you broil it. 2460 02:03:58.800 --> 02:04:01.000 It goes quickly and I spent, like my oven rack 2461 02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:03.600 is right there on the flame. It's like it's like 2462 02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:07.479 burger king style. But miso glaze, get some mirroring, get 2463 02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:11.000 some soy sauce, get the miso itself. I used light recently, 2464 02:04:11.239 --> 02:04:15.039 right yeah, hell yeah. And then you can add a 2465 02:04:15.039 --> 02:04:17.039 little bit like a shot of sake in there if 2466 02:04:17.079 --> 02:04:19.800 you want, give it a little bit of kick. Actually, 2467 02:04:19.800 --> 02:04:21.840 it doesn't even translate to a kick obviously. When you're 2468 02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:23.880 cooking it. It's more of like you get that actual 2469 02:04:23.880 --> 02:04:26.159 like sweet rice flavor. It's really good. 2470 02:04:26.159 --> 02:04:27.359 It sounds great, you know it is. 2471 02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:28.640 I'll send you the recipe. 2472 02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:34.039 Problem for me, I was so into cooking until around 2473 02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:36.079 when a kid turned like two or three, and then 2474 02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:39.239 I was like, you know what, what if my salmon 2475 02:04:39.279 --> 02:04:41.239 recipe is I cook the salmon. 2476 02:04:41.880 --> 02:04:43.520 Your kid doesn't like misoglaze salmon. 2477 02:04:44.239 --> 02:04:46.640 No, No, I mean he actually, honestly, he probably would 2478 02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:50.399 love it. He actually likes flavors. But it's where I'm like, 2479 02:04:50.439 --> 02:04:52.680 what if I make basic salmon? And then it's like, oh, 2480 02:04:52.720 --> 02:04:55.399 this time, I put some of those leftovers on a 2481 02:04:55.399 --> 02:04:57.880 piece of bread. This time I put some of those 2482 02:04:57.920 --> 02:05:01.079 lepters on some of arugula, And next time I put 2483 02:05:01.119 --> 02:05:03.720 some talks some like some pasta with. 2484 02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:08.840 And then you put it on gummy bears. No rules 2485 02:05:08.840 --> 02:05:12.359 in the in the plant household, no rule. But no, 2486 02:05:12.960 --> 02:05:14.479 I'll send you that recipe. You put it on a 2487 02:05:14.479 --> 02:05:16.439 bed of like bas maadi rice, and then and then 2488 02:05:16.479 --> 02:05:19.279 you take the sauce that it was marinating in and 2489 02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:20.960 you reduce that a bit, and then you kind of 2490 02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:23.279 just drizzle it over everything, and then some chives on top, 2491 02:05:24.159 --> 02:05:27.439 maybe some bread crumbs if you're feeling spicy. Yeah, it's 2492 02:05:27.479 --> 02:05:31.560 it's the best thing ever. But yeah, I I fuck 2493 02:05:31.640 --> 02:05:33.000 up in the kitchen all the time. I can't think 2494 02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:35.039 of any of the loathed steaks things I fucked up with. 2495 02:05:35.119 --> 02:05:35.840 It's just like. 2496 02:05:36.000 --> 02:05:38.720 Life, stuff that's supposed to be like kind of embarrassing. 2497 02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:41.920 I do it so much in my friend circle. Like 2498 02:05:41.960 --> 02:05:43.279 I'm so notorious for. 2499 02:05:43.319 --> 02:05:46.319 Like saying or doing something that it's like, you fucking idiot. 2500 02:05:46.640 --> 02:05:48.520 Get in a fight with Jersey moms. 2501 02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:51.199 That there's a catchphrase that they have and it's just 2502 02:05:52.359 --> 02:05:55.880 marry marry May And that's what they say when I 2503 02:05:55.880 --> 02:05:57.359 say or do something stupid. 2504 02:05:58.039 --> 02:06:01.079 I can hear Josh head Mary. 2505 02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:05.399 Okay, this is like a small a small, but it's 2506 02:06:05.399 --> 02:06:10.479 like make my favorite small funk up from when I. 2507 02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:13.199 I have been married for a very long time, but 2508 02:06:13.520 --> 02:06:15.439 when I was in high school. I don't want to brag. 2509 02:06:15.840 --> 02:06:19.600 I went on a few dates, Oh, Lothario. I know 2510 02:06:19.840 --> 02:06:23.279 it was pretty cool and there. 2511 02:06:24.000 --> 02:06:28.319 That's that's not what I That's not the way I 2512 02:06:28.359 --> 02:06:31.920 was going. But yeah, sure, the just chive into the 2513 02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:32.600 bed slut. 2514 02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:36.000 Go on, tell us your story. 2515 02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:41.000 Chris Plan more like Chris Plant and ass all of 2516 02:06:41.079 --> 02:06:49.319 the Kansas City that's what they said. Sorry. 2517 02:06:49.640 --> 02:06:51.960 I went on with this girl and I will not 2518 02:06:52.279 --> 02:06:56.439 name names because of where the story goes, but I 2519 02:06:56.439 --> 02:07:00.680 picked her up and she would always wear this like, 2520 02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:04.439 uh like a ribbon around her neck, and everybody was like, 2521 02:07:04.760 --> 02:07:07.159 why does she always wear this ribbon around her neck? 2522 02:07:07.199 --> 02:07:10.079 I was like, oh, man, I have to know, right, 2523 02:07:10.680 --> 02:07:15.600 So anyway, we go on the state, Mary, you go okay, 2524 02:07:16.039 --> 02:07:18.840 we go on the state and then it like goes. 2525 02:07:18.680 --> 02:07:21.359 Really well book like it's just like I got. 2526 02:07:21.159 --> 02:07:24.199 It and then I know and in anyway, so I 2527 02:07:24.239 --> 02:07:26.479 was like, oh my gosh, like here we are. We've 2528 02:07:26.479 --> 02:07:28.119 had a great night. We like went to the movies 2529 02:07:28.359 --> 02:07:30.279 and then we like kind of like found like uh 2530 02:07:30.359 --> 02:07:30.800 you know, like. 2531 02:07:31.079 --> 02:07:33.560 They have these an ol cove to make out, an. 2532 02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:36.399 Al cove make out spot, and I was like, oh, 2533 02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:38.760 before you make out, I need to like what's up 2534 02:07:38.800 --> 02:07:42.000 with the ribbons? I can't tell you. And I was like, oh, 2535 02:07:42.159 --> 02:07:43.880 just like as a goof, I was like, okay, well 2536 02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:46.560 I'll just pull it. I pulled it and her head 2537 02:07:46.880 --> 02:07:53.119 fell off. Not even joking, I'm not even joking. 2538 02:07:53.239 --> 02:07:54.840 It's like a Norm McDonald bit. 2539 02:07:55.840 --> 02:08:00.359 Like straight up like gingo, like no, this is worse 2540 02:08:00.399 --> 02:08:00.680 than that. 2541 02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:02.760 This is a that's good. 2542 02:08:03.439 --> 02:08:07.520 This is like are you a stark story? 2543 02:08:08.239 --> 02:08:13.039 You motherfucker the whole time? And I know. 2544 02:08:13.159 --> 02:08:14.000 The weird thing is I. 2545 02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:16.560 Did have sex with her. 2546 02:08:16.560 --> 02:08:21.359 Yes, and her regardless, I did get some. 2547 02:08:23.119 --> 02:08:32.800 Do not tell my wife. 2548 02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:33.359 We went all the way. That is I fucking I 2549 02:08:33.399 --> 02:08:37.039 think the reason I kept last it was I knew 2550 02:08:37.359 --> 02:08:39.199 from the moment you said ribbon. 2551 02:08:40.039 --> 02:08:40.439 I knew. 2552 02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:43.399 I like this is the sound. 2553 02:08:44.079 --> 02:08:45.560 I fucking knew it. 2554 02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:50.119 Oh my god, George Carlin asked ship all right to 2555 02:08:50.159 --> 02:08:55.439 go Australia. All right? Last question, I'll read this one, Hello, 2556 02:08:55.640 --> 02:08:59.119 escape artists. About a month ago, I got a twenty 2557 02:08:59.159 --> 02:09:01.000 pound weighted best to where when I go running. It's 2558 02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:02.399 been a great way to get a legwork out while 2559 02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:05.560 also doing cardio. About a week ago, after using it consistently, 2560 02:09:05.640 --> 02:09:08.119 my wife stopped me and said that vest is really working. 2561 02:09:08.319 --> 02:09:11.960 Your butt is looking nice. Friends, Can I tell you 2562 02:09:12.039 --> 02:09:13.960 how that sent me over the moon. In my thirty 2563 02:09:13.960 --> 02:09:15.800 five years of life, no one has ever complimented my 2564 02:09:15.840 --> 02:09:19.960 backside on account of it being non existent. Needless to say, 2565 02:09:20.159 --> 02:09:22.680 I will continue using this vest. So what was the 2566 02:09:22.720 --> 02:09:24.880 last thing that you set out to improve upon? Through 2567 02:09:24.880 --> 02:09:29.239 exercise or therapy or intellectual tasks that someone then complimented 2568 02:09:29.239 --> 02:09:32.479 you on. Not sarcastically love the show and I hope 2569 02:09:32.479 --> 02:09:37.640 you enjoy your spoopy season. Jake from Media state pard 2570 02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:43.359 media pends in parentheses. I think he was just clarifying 2571 02:09:43.399 --> 02:09:46.279 it's not Medea said Media. Maybe we mispronounced in the past. 2572 02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:50.199 We don't ever mispronounce things. The last thing you set 2573 02:09:50.199 --> 02:09:52.479 out to improve upon through exercise, therapy or electrial test, 2574 02:09:52.560 --> 02:09:55.880 someone then complimented you on. God, I get so many compliments. 2575 02:09:55.880 --> 02:10:02.479 Hold on, let me, let me wreck. This is not 2576 02:10:02.600 --> 02:10:06.000 the same exact thing. Mary. You were like years late 2577 02:10:06.079 --> 02:10:08.960 to a compliment. I will say that I did still 2578 02:10:08.960 --> 02:10:11.479 appreciate plan. I don't know if you've heard the story. 2579 02:10:11.479 --> 02:10:13.319 I think we talked about fire Scape before the reason. 2580 02:10:13.359 --> 02:10:15.760 I know we've talked about how anger is one of 2581 02:10:15.800 --> 02:10:18.359 my motivators when trying to learn a new skill. Sometimes 2582 02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:22.560 Mary wants like Jake Decker and I. Jake, who produces 2583 02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:26.720 fire Escape. We had a working relationship on the show 2584 02:10:26.720 --> 02:10:28.880 called Reboot, which was video essays where I would write 2585 02:10:28.920 --> 02:10:31.920 it and I guess direct it as much as you 2586 02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:34.560 could direct something like that. Jake would do the editing, 2587 02:10:34.920 --> 02:10:37.000 so Jake would do most of it, but I would 2588 02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:40.600 write the script. So then at happy hour one night 2589 02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:44.079 we were just someone was I think someone complimented like 2590 02:10:44.119 --> 02:10:47.279 an episode of Reboot, and Mary nearby me is like, 2591 02:10:48.079 --> 02:10:52.560 oh oh the show that Jake makes and Mike takes 2592 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:56.399 credit for something. So I got like furious. So that night, 2593 02:10:56.560 --> 02:10:58.760 instead of going home after Happy Hour, I don't I 2594 02:10:58.840 --> 02:11:01.720 was probably nine beers. I went back to the office 2595 02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:03.079 and this was right around the corner. To be clear, 2596 02:11:03.119 --> 02:11:06.520 we're at Katobrian's. I remember it because I remember the feeling, 2597 02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:08.640 the rage I felt when you said that. And to 2598 02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:10.800 be clear, Jake is was integral to the show. Jake 2599 02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:15.479 is integral to many things. Amazing, Yeah, yeah, but it 2600 02:11:15.560 --> 02:11:18.760 still pissed me off that you said that to me right. 2601 02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:20.840 In front of all of our friends and co work. 2602 02:11:21.079 --> 02:11:23.640 Yeah. I knew very basic. I've been video editing. But 2603 02:11:23.680 --> 02:11:25.600 the reason I like consider myself skilled it now is 2604 02:11:25.640 --> 02:11:26.960 because that night I went back and I'm like, I'm 2605 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:29.800 gonna go to fucking show her. So then like the 2606 02:11:29.800 --> 02:11:32.520 next episode, not the next episode. Jake was still editing 2607 02:11:32.520 --> 02:11:34.159 the majority of those episodes after that, but there was 2608 02:11:34.199 --> 02:11:36.199 one that I edited by myself because I think Jake 2609 02:11:36.279 --> 02:11:39.920 was on a shoot somewhere else, and I like was 2610 02:11:40.000 --> 02:11:42.439 waiting for Mary to say, hey, I knows you edit 2611 02:11:42.479 --> 02:11:45.680 that yourself. No compliment never came. So then every single 2612 02:11:45.800 --> 02:11:47.840 video I ever edited in every episode of Reboot was 2613 02:11:47.840 --> 02:11:50.880 basically just me waiting for a compliment from Mary that 2614 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:53.840 never came. And then years later you're like, I think 2615 02:11:53.840 --> 02:11:56.479 we're recording this show, like episode ten, and you're like, yeah, 2616 02:11:56.479 --> 02:11:59.560 you're a good video editor. I was like, what the fuck? 2617 02:12:02.239 --> 02:12:04.640 I don't know if that answers the question, but I 2618 02:12:04.680 --> 02:12:07.960 set out on that intellectual, skill based task and I 2619 02:12:08.800 --> 02:12:09.800 completed it. 2620 02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:13.359 The rage embarrassed publicly. 2621 02:12:14.079 --> 02:12:16.000 I was not embarrassed, to be clear, I want to 2622 02:12:16.039 --> 02:12:17.439 I want to say it was not. 2623 02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:20.119 Let me be I'm not mad. 2624 02:12:21.800 --> 02:12:25.800 I'm not mad. That's the thing. Verylf between embarrassed and angry. 2625 02:12:27.640 --> 02:12:31.560 Embarrassed willing nilly with your word choice, and you don't 2626 02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:33.399 really care about where. 2627 02:12:33.760 --> 02:12:38.920 Where was your anger from? It was embarrassing the truth, 2628 02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:39.439 is it? 2629 02:12:40.159 --> 02:12:45.680 Yes, But I wasn't embarrassed. It was I was angry. Yes, 2630 02:12:45.680 --> 02:12:48.520 it was from the truth. I was angry that you. 2631 02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:50.760 My plant. 2632 02:12:52.600 --> 02:13:00.000 I was embarrassed. I was just humilitiate. That's all it was. 2633 02:13:00.159 --> 02:13:00.960 I was just. 2634 02:13:00.880 --> 02:13:07.239 Really very different, angry and fat and not in. 2635 02:13:09.920 --> 02:13:10.960 I was relieved. 2636 02:13:12.640 --> 02:13:17.199 I was a shame ilated, but I was not varied. 2637 02:13:17.720 --> 02:13:20.760 I went back and watch some cock porn and then 2638 02:13:20.840 --> 02:13:21.399 edit video. 2639 02:13:21.720 --> 02:13:23.359 I got back on that horse. 2640 02:13:25.039 --> 02:13:31.439 Yeah, yeah, I don't regret it. 2641 02:13:31.520 --> 02:13:31.960 I did it. 2642 02:13:32.119 --> 02:13:34.359 At some point I thought I really hurt your feelings, 2643 02:13:34.359 --> 02:13:36.039 and I have I do have a history of my 2644 02:13:36.079 --> 02:13:38.000 friends being like, yo, you went too far, but like 2645 02:13:38.680 --> 02:13:43.520 you learned skill as a result of it. You learned 2646 02:13:43.520 --> 02:13:45.680 a skill as a result of it, And I think 2647 02:13:45.720 --> 02:13:46.600 that is It's not. 2648 02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:50.159 A skill, it's like I like I, it's a skill set. 2649 02:13:50.479 --> 02:13:54.119 Like I. It was very it's very useful and I 2650 02:13:54.239 --> 02:13:58.720 enjoy it and fun. But still, fuck you plant? Has 2651 02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:01.039 anybody count by your butt? 2652 02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:03.960 Oh? People are always complimenting my butt? Can? I be 2653 02:14:04.000 --> 02:14:06.640 real with you. It's really embarrassing. 2654 02:14:08.600 --> 02:14:16.399 You were gonna start it with can because people always. 2655 02:14:14.560 --> 02:14:20.439 I can't remember anyone complimenting my butt, and yet I, 2656 02:14:20.439 --> 02:14:22.640 I like have never gone on Facebook, Like I do 2657 02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:25.800 not use Facebook, right, And then I was like somebody's like, hey, 2658 02:14:25.800 --> 02:14:28.079 you got to see what your uncle was saying on Facebook. 2659 02:14:28.159 --> 02:14:31.119 This is not about my butt and I okay, so 2660 02:14:31.159 --> 02:14:32.199 I signed, and. 2661 02:14:32.199 --> 02:14:35.560 Then I see like, and the further you go with 2662 02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:37.359 this story, I'm gonna dial one again. 2663 02:14:38.640 --> 02:14:41.119 I see a random friend from high school who's like 2664 02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:46.279 doing like this amazing work with like a great like 2665 02:14:47.119 --> 02:14:49.279 charity in Kansas City. I was like, oh, this is great. 2666 02:14:49.319 --> 02:14:52.560 I should message them and be like, hey, I just 2667 02:14:52.600 --> 02:14:54.760 saw this. I you know, I haven't seen your part, 2668 02:14:54.880 --> 02:14:57.920 but really incredible what you're doing. And then I couldn't 2669 02:14:58.039 --> 02:15:01.000 do it because the last mess since was from like 2670 02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:06.199 two thousand and seven, and it was hurting like where 2671 02:15:06.239 --> 02:15:09.800 that cute butt at? And I was like, I can't 2672 02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:12.680 respond to this ever. I can never message you here 2673 02:15:12.960 --> 02:15:15.000 because the first thing that you will see is our 2674 02:15:15.039 --> 02:15:17.800 last message from almost twenty years ago, with you being 2675 02:15:17.880 --> 02:15:26.119 like where that cute butt at? Too uncomfortable. No, the 2676 02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.720 the question was like where you where have you grown 2677 02:15:29.039 --> 02:15:31.239 or whatever? That's basically it, right, Like where have you 2678 02:15:31.279 --> 02:15:35.079 put in time? Yeah? That's the question. Yeah? Yeah? Can 2679 02:15:35.119 --> 02:15:37.039 I tell you your motivation? 2680 02:15:37.279 --> 02:15:37.520 Yeah? 2681 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:40.359 Making making a post games, making a podcast where it's 2682 02:15:40.399 --> 02:15:43.319 like I'm gonna do every damn part of this. I'm 2683 02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:45.760 going to book my thing. I'm gonna produce it. I'm 2684 02:15:45.760 --> 02:15:48.880 gonna write the script, I'm gonna perform it, I'm gonna interview, 2685 02:15:49.119 --> 02:15:50.920 I'm going to edit it, and I'm gonna learn how 2686 02:15:50.960 --> 02:15:53.039 to do all of that right now. He was like, 2687 02:15:53.079 --> 02:15:55.199 don't actually know how to do any of it. It's 2688 02:15:55.239 --> 02:15:58.199 a really motivating thing of just like I bet I 2689 02:15:58.239 --> 02:16:01.159 could do all of it and I won't need anybody's help. 2690 02:16:01.600 --> 02:16:05.119 It is all extremely humbling, and yet it does feel 2691 02:16:05.279 --> 02:16:10.640 amazing and it's so good, Like this is a thing 2692 02:16:10.680 --> 02:16:13.079 that like I've been learning Japanese, I am really at 2693 02:16:13.079 --> 02:16:14.760 that point where I know I will never be even 2694 02:16:14.800 --> 02:16:18.119 remotely good at it. I fully hit the like, oh 2695 02:16:18.239 --> 02:16:21.119 I'm gonna never be even close to good at this. 2696 02:16:21.920 --> 02:16:25.760 But the thing that everybody tells you to do when 2697 02:16:25.800 --> 02:16:28.439 you live in this zone is like just go back 2698 02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:32.120 to whatever you were doing two years ago. And it's 2699 02:16:32.159 --> 02:16:34.200 amazing when you go back to like what you were 2700 02:16:34.239 --> 02:16:36.440 doing two years ago and you just can like crush 2701 02:16:36.479 --> 02:16:38.639 it and you're like, oh, yeah, I did get a 2702 02:16:38.680 --> 02:16:42.479 little better. This is nice. And then you like try 2703 02:16:42.520 --> 02:16:50.479 to talk and like Asumi Ma San Curisy days exactly 2704 02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:51.079 killing it. 2705 02:16:51.239 --> 02:16:56.600 Kudasai people, I will say, like anyone anytime you're you're 2706 02:16:56.639 --> 02:16:59.639 speaking Japanese, everyone is so polite to say your Japanese 2707 02:16:59.639 --> 02:17:03.040 is real good. And that's just like a lovely thing 2708 02:17:03.079 --> 02:17:05.799 where you're like, shut up and you. 2709 02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:09.319 Can the love that shut the fuck up. 2710 02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:15.239 You never know when someone's being authentic, But I do 2711 02:17:15.319 --> 02:17:20.440 think that when someone reviews you genuinely and decides to 2712 02:17:20.479 --> 02:17:24.120 give you five stars, that it is an authentic appreciation 2713 02:17:24.280 --> 02:17:25.360 and compliment of your work. 2714 02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:27.399 And to have two hundred and eighty eight of them, 2715 02:17:27.600 --> 02:17:28.600 oh wow. 2716 02:17:29.440 --> 02:17:33.639 I think is probably one of the nicest compliments a 2717 02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:35.959 person can have with their podcast. And so I just 2718 02:17:35.959 --> 02:17:39.239 want to say, you have a perfect review score, and 2719 02:17:39.280 --> 02:17:42.600 that is a genuine compliment from people who like your work. 2720 02:17:43.280 --> 02:17:45.479 My therapist is so in my head right now. They 2721 02:17:45.760 --> 02:17:49.879 just receive a nice thing, just compliment. 2722 02:17:49.440 --> 02:17:52.040 Except I didn't even do it. 2723 02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:57.799 I'm they've I'm letting you know I wouldn't because then 2724 02:17:57.799 --> 02:18:01.440 your average, your average wouldn't be five. I'm just saying you, 2725 02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:04.200 he's very obvious that there are hundreds of people that 2726 02:18:04.239 --> 02:18:06.280 have like gone out of their way, and for every review, 2727 02:18:06.319 --> 02:18:08.840 we always know there's like probably a hundred people who 2728 02:18:08.840 --> 02:18:10.760 are just like listening. So it's like wonderful to like 2729 02:18:10.920 --> 02:18:14.120 to see that type of affirmation of your work, So 2730 02:18:14.159 --> 02:18:15.319 that has to feel very good. 2731 02:18:15.559 --> 02:18:15.879 It has to. 2732 02:18:16.079 --> 02:18:18.440 It feels so good. And also just doing the job 2733 02:18:18.479 --> 02:18:22.840 feels good. Yeah, I'm real like it. I am so 2734 02:18:23.760 --> 02:18:31.680 incredibly uh yeah, complex feelings about Pelagon and happy that 2735 02:18:31.719 --> 02:18:34.360 it still exists, happy that some people still have jobs, 2736 02:18:34.479 --> 02:18:37.840 very depressed about the many people who don't. But the 2737 02:18:37.959 --> 02:18:41.399 job I have right now is like my dream job. 2738 02:18:41.600 --> 02:18:44.479 It is so good and it's so weird to have 2739 02:18:44.520 --> 02:18:46.399 your dream job. I think the good thing is I 2740 02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:50.239 briefly have my dream job for like a year between 2741 02:18:51.440 --> 02:18:55.440 when I was freelancing in New York, and I know, like, oh, 2742 02:18:55.520 --> 02:18:57.959 you only get to have it for short periods. So 2743 02:18:58.040 --> 02:19:00.680 this time around, I'm like for it and I have it, 2744 02:19:00.719 --> 02:19:03.079 and I'm Mike, I don't know how long this wi last, 2745 02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:05.159 but I'm going to hold on to it for dear life, 2746 02:19:05.239 --> 02:19:09.079 because it's so wild. When you have it and you 2747 02:19:09.360 --> 02:19:11.719 know you have it, it's like a double whammy. 2748 02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:14.840 I think that's beautiful and it's so good. 2749 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:19.200 It probably people probably don't get to like, I don't 2750 02:19:19.239 --> 02:19:21.879 know you that well, but I think you should know, like, 2751 02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:26.079 that's such a point of pride to be able to 2752 02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:29.799 do what you love and and you should be so 2753 02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:33.120 proud of what you've made and what you've accomplished in 2754 02:19:33.159 --> 02:19:35.040 your career, and that's really exciting. 2755 02:19:35.120 --> 02:19:37.399 I'm really happy for you, Chris, thank you. 2756 02:19:37.799 --> 02:19:39.159 Thank you. It's the best. 2757 02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:42.600 Yeah, good for you. 2758 02:19:46.239 --> 02:19:48.399 Mine's just mad because Mike was going to throw a 2759 02:19:48.440 --> 02:19:51.440 smash brother's party at his wine bar and they didn't 2760 02:19:51.479 --> 02:19:53.479 come together and I didn't get to calm and he 2761 02:19:53.520 --> 02:19:57.200 didn't get to see me, and he's he's sad. We're 2762 02:19:57.200 --> 02:19:58.319 going to see each other very soon. 2763 02:19:59.079 --> 02:19:59.879 That would be good for you. 2764 02:20:00.479 --> 02:20:01.680 And the great thing is I'm going to be on 2765 02:20:01.719 --> 02:20:04.559 the show in like seventy episodes, so it's true. 2766 02:20:04.639 --> 02:20:08.600 Who knows where you'll be in another seventy episodes, I 2767 02:20:08.639 --> 02:20:11.319 would like to think, because every time we've we've had 2768 02:20:11.319 --> 02:20:13.920 you on, you've gotten better and better. So the next 2769 02:20:13.920 --> 02:20:16.479 time you're going to be like, you know, governor or something. 2770 02:20:16.559 --> 02:20:19.280 I don't know. It's got a fall, you know, it's 2771 02:20:19.559 --> 02:20:19.879 I don't. 2772 02:20:21.680 --> 02:20:22.040 They can't. 2773 02:20:22.600 --> 02:20:25.520 You can't live your life in constant excellence at some point. 2774 02:20:26.040 --> 02:20:29.799 It's got a But the good thing about it episodes 2775 02:20:29.840 --> 02:20:32.520 between there was a lot of hills and valleys in there. 2776 02:20:32.840 --> 02:20:34.559 You just happen to be catching me on a hill. 2777 02:20:35.120 --> 02:20:40.520 Good party, got to see something. He's keenly aware it 2778 02:20:40.639 --> 02:20:41.680 was not all a climb. 2779 02:20:42.760 --> 02:20:45.000 Oh No, I'm well aware. 2780 02:20:46.799 --> 02:20:50.000 I've had a lot of ups and downs in my life, 2781 02:20:50.000 --> 02:20:54.879 and I've i think, like most especially uh most women, 2782 02:20:54.920 --> 02:20:58.000 I've like wrestled with whether or not like I fit 2783 02:20:58.079 --> 02:21:00.680 in and whether or not I can like this and 2784 02:21:00.719 --> 02:21:08.440 be accepted into this space. And being called a battie 2785 02:21:09.920 --> 02:21:13.959 is it real? Is a peak compliment for me that 2786 02:21:14.040 --> 02:21:16.079 I will have forever. 2787 02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:19.760 You can't take this and like she was thirteen, she 2788 02:21:19.760 --> 02:21:20.639 could have ruined me. 2789 02:21:21.680 --> 02:21:23.600 Is there a better place though, to like chat, like 2790 02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:26.040 to go talk, because you know, like you can get 2791 02:21:26.079 --> 02:21:27.399 the thing where it's like, oh I talked to in 2792 02:21:27.399 --> 02:21:30.120 this prestigious college I did like convincement sweets or anything. 2793 02:21:30.360 --> 02:21:34.639 But going back to your junior high high school it 2794 02:21:34.760 --> 02:21:37.920 might be the best place to be able to go. 2795 02:21:38.079 --> 02:21:40.799 There's something like very I don't know that feels very 2796 02:21:40.959 --> 02:21:44.280 uh circular in a way that I am in the. 2797 02:21:44.600 --> 02:21:48.000 It felt gratifying to me that I went to a 2798 02:21:48.040 --> 02:21:51.559 place where I was mercilessly made fun of. 2799 02:21:51.840 --> 02:21:55.399 I was brutally taken a down at my thirteen. I 2800 02:21:55.840 --> 02:21:57.159 had shut up like a weed. 2801 02:21:57.280 --> 02:22:02.879 At thirteen, I was so tall and I had no anything. 2802 02:22:03.479 --> 02:22:09.520 It was just a twig of I mean nothing was 2803 02:22:09.959 --> 02:22:11.000 there was nothing nice. 2804 02:22:11.159 --> 02:22:16.079 I remember people called me ghosts because I was so pale. 2805 02:22:16.600 --> 02:22:17.719 I was ghost gumby. 2806 02:22:18.079 --> 02:22:18.200 Uh. 2807 02:22:18.399 --> 02:22:20.840 They I was like the house that everyone t peed 2808 02:22:21.079 --> 02:22:21.840 at Halloween. 2809 02:22:23.639 --> 02:22:25.840 I but hey, hey, if you were in the house 2810 02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:28.639 that everyone t peed, that means like people had crush 2811 02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:29.120 it's on you. 2812 02:22:29.360 --> 02:22:32.319 I usually that's what parents say those were. 2813 02:22:32.879 --> 02:22:35.520 It's also true say that as a boy who te 2814 02:22:35.600 --> 02:22:37.079 pet All right, Well. 2815 02:22:37.680 --> 02:22:41.360 My oldest brother went to egg the house of a 2816 02:22:41.360 --> 02:22:44.159 teacher who him and his friends hated, and they got 2817 02:22:44.159 --> 02:22:47.440 the They did the house next door to her house. No, 2818 02:22:49.239 --> 02:22:51.879 which is one of my favorite stories in my family. 2819 02:22:52.040 --> 02:22:55.000 Is like in the in the lore of my family. 2820 02:22:55.840 --> 02:22:56.200 Uh. 2821 02:22:56.319 --> 02:22:58.440 From then on, he was I like to think a 2822 02:22:58.440 --> 02:23:00.600 bit more humbled. But anyway, so sorry, that was a 2823 02:23:00.639 --> 02:23:02.440 non secretter may I'm Mary. I'm pretty sure they all 2824 02:23:02.600 --> 02:23:05.159 just thought you were Yeah, they had crushes on you. 2825 02:23:05.559 --> 02:23:07.239 They wanted attention, so they tpeed your hand. 2826 02:23:07.399 --> 02:23:12.399 I'm telling you with all sincerity, I was struggling with 2827 02:23:12.799 --> 02:23:16.319 who I was and everything at thirteen, and it was. 2828 02:23:16.440 --> 02:23:19.399 It was a real tough go for me during that era, 2829 02:23:19.840 --> 02:23:24.159 and I felt bullied a lot and was pushed around 2830 02:23:24.159 --> 02:23:26.520 a lot. So to go back to that space and 2831 02:23:26.600 --> 02:23:30.680 be in that environment and have middle schoolers be like 2832 02:23:30.760 --> 02:23:33.520 you're cool felt like a million dollars. 2833 02:23:33.559 --> 02:23:35.040 There's no price I could put on that. 2834 02:23:35.680 --> 02:23:38.000 I'm not trying to victim blame. I want to be 2835 02:23:38.079 --> 02:23:41.239 really here. I'm not trying to victim blame. Do you 2836 02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:43.799 think it might have been because you kept wearing that 2837 02:23:43.879 --> 02:23:45.719 shirt it said eat pray again. 2838 02:23:48.879 --> 02:23:53.719 I will never question my stylistic choices of. 2839 02:23:55.520 --> 02:23:58.399 Nineteen ninety eight, which I was so cool. 2840 02:23:59.200 --> 02:24:03.959 Everybody knew that you wanted to wear the widest of jeans, 2841 02:24:04.000 --> 02:24:06.840 which are back back in action by the way, So 2842 02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:08.440 who's laughing now? 2843 02:24:11.120 --> 02:24:11.200 Me? 2844 02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:11.760 Not me? 2845 02:24:15.040 --> 02:24:15.520 Take that? 2846 02:24:17.600 --> 02:24:24.360 Thank you uh to his at job Jake from Media Pennsylvania. 2847 02:24:24.559 --> 02:24:28.200 That's our show right in fire Escape cast at gmail 2848 02:24:28.239 --> 02:24:33.840 dot com for next episode fill up dad inbox. Yeah, 2849 02:24:34.399 --> 02:24:38.000 Phill Chris, it was good to have you back. 2850 02:24:38.399 --> 02:24:39.440 Good to be here. 2851 02:24:39.959 --> 02:24:43.840 Really quick housekeeping stuff while I interrupt you. December sixth 2852 02:24:44.040 --> 02:24:46.920 Game of the Year, fire Escape, We'll be having our 2853 02:24:47.200 --> 02:24:50.840 official Game of the Year live stream. We're descending on Minneapolis. 2854 02:24:51.159 --> 02:24:55.799 As always, Jake, Mary, Dan and I will be there. Yeah, 2855 02:24:55.879 --> 02:24:58.360 Dad will probably be on Dan's twitch channel, I believe 2856 02:24:58.360 --> 02:25:00.440 twitch dot tv slash Dan Riker, as we usually do. 2857 02:25:00.799 --> 02:25:04.120 We'll let people know. If that's not the case. We 2858 02:25:04.200 --> 02:25:07.280 will also be Uh. I don't know. We might be 2859 02:25:07.319 --> 02:25:10.719 doing some like bonus video stuff we usually do at 2860 02:25:10.760 --> 02:25:13.440 least one while we're there. Not positive on that yet, 2861 02:25:13.440 --> 02:25:15.799 but yeah, that's coming up in about a month and 2862 02:25:15.799 --> 02:25:19.840 a half or so. And uh, outside of that, Yeah, 2863 02:25:19.879 --> 02:25:20.360 that's about it. 2864 02:25:20.479 --> 02:25:22.040 Tell us what's going on in your world? 2865 02:25:22.040 --> 02:25:24.360 What do you have coming up? You're always playing these weird, 2866 02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:25.120 wacky games. 2867 02:25:26.040 --> 02:25:27.959 You know, what's going on with with the best sies. 2868 02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:30.040 What's going on with postgame? 2869 02:25:30.079 --> 02:25:34.600 I have coming up? Besties is you know, it's the 2870 02:25:34.639 --> 02:25:37.639 same every week we play new games. This is original 2871 02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:42.200 idea that we've been working on incredibly for white men 2872 02:25:42.079 --> 02:25:44.840 in playing video games, and they talk about it each week. 2873 02:25:44.959 --> 02:25:46.239 I gotta know what they're thinking. 2874 02:25:46.799 --> 02:25:51.319 You gotta know thinking. And then on post games, I 2875 02:25:51.360 --> 02:25:53.520 have a bunch of cool stuff coming up. I have 2876 02:25:53.639 --> 02:25:57.680 like my calendar through February set, so there's like some 2877 02:25:57.879 --> 02:26:01.399 bonker stuff. One thing liking both of you off Mike 2878 02:26:01.479 --> 02:26:05.360 about is I have a Thanksgiving special that I am 2879 02:26:05.399 --> 02:26:07.639 putting together and I would love for both of you 2880 02:26:07.760 --> 02:26:11.399 to help me with it, So people should subscribe before 2881 02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:14.319 Thanksgiving so they can hear that there's a whole bunch 2882 02:26:14.360 --> 02:26:16.200 of people who are going to be on it. And 2883 02:26:16.239 --> 02:26:19.200 then other stuff that I have coming up. The next 2884 02:26:19.239 --> 02:26:23.440 episode is oh, I have an episode that is coming 2885 02:26:23.479 --> 02:26:25.680 up in the next few weeks that is about the 2886 02:26:25.719 --> 02:26:30.159 scariest game I have seen this year that is very 2887 02:26:30.200 --> 02:26:35.959 much not a scary game, and a real person died 2888 02:26:36.639 --> 02:26:40.559 in relation to this game, not while making it. I'll 2889 02:26:40.639 --> 02:26:42.799 just tell you what it is because it's too weird 2890 02:26:42.799 --> 02:26:46.280 to talk about. It involves a recreation of a very 2891 02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:51.319 infamous cave. It's really really weird and dark, and I 2892 02:26:51.360 --> 02:26:53.600 talked to the person who made it, and it is 2893 02:26:53.639 --> 02:26:55.000 an episode you should check out. 2894 02:26:55.239 --> 02:27:02.319 But I have to know more. I bunk. Did they 2895 02:27:02.360 --> 02:27:02.920 die in the cave? 2896 02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:07.920 Yeah? Yeah, it's it's so scary. 2897 02:27:07.680 --> 02:27:07.840 You know. 2898 02:27:08.319 --> 02:27:11.200 The most popular thing on TikTok is like just people 2899 02:27:11.239 --> 02:27:13.600 being like this guy got into this cave and then 2900 02:27:13.600 --> 02:27:16.239 he couldn't get out, and then he fucking that what itself? 2901 02:27:17.360 --> 02:27:20.079 It is the video game version of that in VR. 2902 02:27:20.600 --> 02:27:22.520 This is going to be your next popular video. 2903 02:27:22.680 --> 02:27:25.840 Make sure that the audio is you can like get 2904 02:27:25.840 --> 02:27:26.799 paid for it. 2905 02:27:27.639 --> 02:27:31.639 Okay, don't don't, don't do it yourself? Fuck up? 2906 02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:33.600 This is the one. I'm telling you. 2907 02:27:33.680 --> 02:27:35.520 These are like the most popular and most of them 2908 02:27:35.559 --> 02:27:37.799 are AI and they're fake, right, Like it's just so yeah. 2909 02:27:38.799 --> 02:27:42.840 This is and the way that it went down was 2910 02:27:43.559 --> 02:27:44.639 one of the scariest things. 2911 02:27:44.479 --> 02:27:45.280 I've ever heard. 2912 02:27:45.600 --> 02:27:50.399 What, Yeah, I'm good, you should check it. 2913 02:27:50.520 --> 02:27:56.399 I gotta know about this spelunker crazy? Why would you 2914 02:27:56.399 --> 02:27:56.920 get in the hold? 2915 02:27:56.959 --> 02:27:57.520 Tell you about it? 2916 02:27:57.559 --> 02:27:59.479 Like, don't go in there, it's only They're an NPR 2917 02:27:59.520 --> 02:28:00.239 style pot guess. 2918 02:28:00.399 --> 02:28:02.879 I just like don't understand why anyone would get into 2919 02:28:02.920 --> 02:28:05.600 a hole that you feel like might not be big 2920 02:28:05.719 --> 02:28:07.479 enough for you, Like, why. 2921 02:28:10.239 --> 02:28:10.879 Don't clip that? 2922 02:28:15.079 --> 02:28:17.639 Do need Dan? Where's Dan when you need him? I know, 2923 02:28:20.559 --> 02:28:21.440 answer your own question. 2924 02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:27.000 I just like I think it's a crazy decision, but anyway. 2925 02:28:26.680 --> 02:28:30.399 It is, it's a bad I do not go into. 2926 02:28:31.639 --> 02:28:37.440 Holes that might not be big enough for me. I do, Mary, 2927 02:28:37.479 --> 02:28:38.200 What have you been up to? 2928 02:28:39.879 --> 02:28:43.639 I honestly been traveling so much that I haven't had 2929 02:28:43.920 --> 02:28:46.000 a minute to stream, and I feel really bad. 2930 02:28:46.040 --> 02:28:50.920 I've like broken my stream streak for like three weeks 2931 02:28:51.040 --> 02:28:52.639 because I keep traveling. 2932 02:28:52.760 --> 02:28:57.200 But when this airs, I should be back on my 2933 02:28:57.399 --> 02:29:02.000 Monday streaming action. I have some collabs coming up with 2934 02:29:02.680 --> 02:29:05.360 some of my friends. Will be playing some games, especially 2935 02:29:05.360 --> 02:29:08.239 for Halloween, and I'll also be doing a charity game 2936 02:29:08.280 --> 02:29:12.760 for Saint Jude called Metal Meals, where I stream making 2937 02:29:13.360 --> 02:29:17.639 like a meal that's very like metal music in my kitchen. 2938 02:29:18.360 --> 02:29:20.639 I don't actually know what I'm gonna make yet, but 2939 02:29:20.760 --> 02:29:23.639 I'm excited for the concept of Metal Meals, So we'll 2940 02:29:23.639 --> 02:29:27.360 be listening to metal music and making something cool. 2941 02:29:27.920 --> 02:29:29.079 Yeah for the kids. 2942 02:29:30.520 --> 02:29:34.079 You you do charities for them, I body slam them. Yeah. 2943 02:29:34.200 --> 02:29:37.799 We all children in our own way, all right. I 2944 02:29:37.799 --> 02:29:40.719 didn't lie he exists. 2945 02:29:40.280 --> 02:29:42.840 Yeah, and then and the kids knew about him, all right. 2946 02:29:42.959 --> 02:29:46.120 That is episode one nineteen. We will be back in 2947 02:29:46.239 --> 02:29:49.200 two weeks. I believe it'll be the full crew. Plant 2948 02:29:49.200 --> 02:29:51.719 won't be here maybe, well, I don't know. You could 2949 02:29:51.719 --> 02:29:53.239 just hang around and we. 2950 02:29:53.200 --> 02:29:56.879 Don't know any episode dan. 2951 02:29:58.280 --> 02:30:02.719 So FMVs go follow post games, go review it, give 2952 02:30:02.719 --> 02:30:05.879 it a good review. Five Keep up on the upcoming 2953 02:30:05.879 --> 02:30:09.799 episodes catch up in the meantime, and uh yeah, we'll 2954 02:30:09.840 --> 02:30:12.040 be prepping for Game of the Year in December. If 2955 02:30:12.079 --> 02:30:14.200 you want to get some merch to support us. So 2956 02:30:14.239 --> 02:30:16.840 that's we officially finally have fire skate merts dot com. 2957 02:30:16.879 --> 02:30:18.959 I got around to doing the very simple task of 2958 02:30:19.000 --> 02:30:23.040 getting it, so it's not a bit anymore. Uh yeah, 2959 02:30:23.079 --> 02:30:26.120 go check it out. Get some banana hammocks, get some trunks. 2960 02:30:25.879 --> 02:30:29.479 Selling those shirts with the Jedi mind Warriors. 2961 02:30:29.520 --> 02:30:31.959 I don't know what you're talking about. That is our episode, 2962 02:30:32.000 --> 02:30:33.559 we willkay good, Yeah, you got it. 2963 02:30:33.639 --> 02:30:35.760 Okay, I'm ordering that right now. 2964 02:30:36.600 --> 02:30:38.440 Get it for you as a Christmas gift for your 2965 02:30:38.479 --> 02:30:39.000 loved ones. 2966 02:30:39.920 --> 02:30:40.799 There's coasters. 2967 02:30:40.879 --> 02:30:45.520 Oh there's mugs too. I think you're mad. Yeah, mouse pad, 2968 02:30:47.479 --> 02:30:51.559 all right, go buy those fucking about the author ship things. 2969 02:30:51.639 --> 02:30:54.040 All right, we'll be back in two weeks. Until then, 2970 02:30:54.559 --> 02:31:15.040 see yeah bye,