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the fuck I'm talking about. I just like sounding like,

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forty one hundred Mega hurts? All right, cools to la cla, Yeah,

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I cla.

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Speaker 2: I live here.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'll coming on that. Hey, everybody, Welcome

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back to the fire Escape Cast. I'm Mike Mahardi, your

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host as always. It's episode one hundred nineteen. It is

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forty seven degrees in Boise, Idaho, on this fine night.

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We're here as always with Mary.

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Speaker 3: Kish It's a full crisp day.

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Speaker 1: And returning guests from episode fifty two so a while ago.

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It's Chris Plant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I don't I'm not very good

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at numbers. How many is it between fifty two and

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one nineteen? How many of that?

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Speaker 1: Are you asking? How long it? Why we haven't asked

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you in that stretch to come on.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I asked. Number. I'm just curious about it. Number.

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something like that.

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Speaker 2: Seventy sixty more episodes have happened now and then than

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the entire run of the show up until me meaning

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Speaker 4: That's true that Chris, it's really important with a voice

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as prolific as yoursself, don't water it down.

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Speaker 2: And that's so true.

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Speaker 3: Get excited to hear what you have to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like that was rehearsed. It's because Mary

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has already tried that line on me.

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Speaker 3: It is my dreamed gaslight men on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's why you came.

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Speaker 1: Your dream or your routine.

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bit of Bee. I get to live the dream every

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day here. But I think that we should have had

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you on more.

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Speaker 3: It is a mistake. I apologize on behalf.

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Speaker 1: To have him on.

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Speaker 3: Who specifically said don't have him on? I believe those

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Speaker 2: That does sound right.

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Speaker 1: You were you. I don't think you were my boss

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during that last episode. I wouldn't have I don't think

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were still working together day job wise, I think that

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would have been after I left.

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Speaker 2: It's probably in between the two zones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're coming right to us from post games now.

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For those who haven't ye, for those who haven't might

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not be familiar, give them the elevator, pitch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us about post games. What is it?

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the greatest video game podcast to ever exist in one

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of I think only two or three that are out there.

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it's like, you know, it's not so boring. No, I mean,

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people listen to you, Mike, so they'll they'll appreciate this.

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It's like in PR, but for video games. Every week

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an interview, and then you get a little bit of

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the news, just like an NPR show. The only difference

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you know, I'm I've gotten one hundred still not topic.

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Speaker 4: What's the percentage of porn game coverage?

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Speaker 2: I'm on postgames right now. We're done twenty three episodes

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and three of them are about porn games, so that

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equates to about like a ten mm hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm making up for it's ten percent, that's right. I

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don't know numbers. Listen, I asked you for the numbers

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at the beginning of the show. The point is this.

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If you are listening to this right now, just give

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me a real favor. Hit stop, go your podcast app,

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Big Post Games, subscribe, go to Patreton not gone forward,

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Slash Postgames. Subscribe again, and then come back to the show.

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We've got a whole lot of great show for you.

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I'm the host. Now, welcome to fire Escape. My name

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is Dan. I'm from Barbecue.

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pickles like something like that.

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burnt In's everywhere else. They're actual burnt ins. It's like gristle.

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almost it's like the difference between Australia and New Zealand.

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I'm wrong. It's three acts every episode. The beginning is

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just kidding, it's not that bad. Shadow Colossues. You did

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so many people saw it completely changed his life. A

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because he has assumed nobody would ever see his videos,

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so he used some Studio Ghibli music in it. But

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a full successful video by far and you get zero dollars.

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Speaker 1: No, because of the shadow of the Don't Flatter Yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finally I'm being a moment. I'm making break from

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Speaker 2: That's what happened when Donkey came on my show. Have

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Speaker 3: Half have you heard of this guy?

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Speaker 3: Very good to know all these five star reviews, show them.

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Speaker 2: Look at them, look at them.

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Speaker 3: You can't buy those. I mean in theory, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I love video games. I love chat with y'all. I

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may have made a little more coffee than I expected

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to make, and I'm definitely feeling it. I'm just letting

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you know that.

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Speaker 1: It's usually the opposite for us. We usually make more

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too much like alcohol. No, yeah, actually I've I've been

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doing that less these days. For the show. I'm sticking to.

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This is a cinnamon tea, cinnamon orange tea. Wow? Good, Yeah,

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what is it? I'm so god, I'm so noble.

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Speaker 2: And South Park impressions.

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Speaker 1: No, no, you're coming on. This is a serious episode.

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Speaker 4: Dan's gone that I am doing this with two losers.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only drinking.

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Speaker 2: Oh You're no, I'm going in a beer. Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I'm like two seconds, I might crack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is strategy in the game section. I'm cracking

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a beer.

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won't have what I'll go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't important. I was gonna tell you

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that I'm in the beer. I'm ment guit. It's like

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it tastes like you know, wood top of a tree

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like that. Oh nice, pretty good? Yeah, that sounds great

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would come off of It's like a cherry wood, is

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what it. It's one of those things where like, oh,

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this was made by running wheat and barley over just

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dead trees, like they're a lot that sounds seasonal.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of like bourbons rise these days that

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use like used sherry casks or wine barrels, and I

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hate all of them. No, some of them are good.

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I don't like to use wine barrel bourbons. Those usually

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come out gross. Like there's one I forget what it was.

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used pino noir barrels and like that, there's not a

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flavor I want in my bourbon no And I love

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pino noir, but I don't want like neutral barrel like

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four to five year old barrels.

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Speaker 2: What if they made like coke inside of used wine barrels.

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You think that would tastes good.

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Speaker 1: That's how they make carry coke.

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Speaker 3: It is not.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding, it probably would be good.

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Speaker 3: Mike, dead cells things pretty hard.

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Speaker 4: You have to really look dead eyes to know that

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he's fucking with you.

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Speaker 1: My beady little eyes. Mary loves to.

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Speaker 3: Say, oh, like the eyes of a dull Yeah, I

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know that.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's new with you? Mary? We've been fucking plants,

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been hogging the spotlight for a day. Now, what are

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you doing? You're in bikini bottom again.

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Speaker 3: Stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the same place I've been for eight years.

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I'm at Twitch headquarters. It's just like another travel trip.

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I will like just openly say I've had so much travel, and.

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Speaker 3: A lot of it has been rewarding.

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Speaker 4: But generally speaking, when you travel three out of four

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weeks of the month like no train, I don't want

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to travel anymore. Like I think I might be done visually.

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But I will say I had a great trip. I

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went to Ohio, which is where I'm from, and I

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had that I.

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Speaker 1: Had a great trip. I went to Ohio. No, I'm joking.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of fun in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's a callback. It's a callback

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I've been to. I've had some fun in Ohio as well.

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Speaker 2: Where are you from, Ohio?

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Speaker 4: I'm from but I okay, okay, Sinatti, but I don't

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care for since. But I lived in Columbus for most

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of my childhood and I got the opportunity to speak

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to a bunch of middle school students from the middle

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school I went to, which is really.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, and I loved it.

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Speaker 4: R that was worth it because it was like it

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was basically I was talking all these people about like

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possible careers in STEM, which I think is a stretch

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for me to say, but technically, games and games, media

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is within.

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Speaker 2: You do have IGV lights behind you, idea and women

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in stuff.

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Speaker 3: Women you're yeah, come on, guys, I'm an ally And.

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Speaker 4: I talked to mostly girls about careers and STEM and

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it was the funniest thing I think I have done

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in a hot minute. This is like, just to be clear,

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this is like seven hundred. It was like nine hundred

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students total. Like in an auditorium, it's nine to thirty

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in the morning, right, They're tired, they are not super focused,

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and the lady who's going to introduce me is like, hey,

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just you know, you're probably not gonna want to talk

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for very long because these kids will not sit there

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and listen to you for probably more than ten minutes.

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And I said, got it. I'm gonna keep it real,

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buttoned up. I'm going to keep it real short and sweet.

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And she was like, all right, well, you know, good luck.

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You know, like try and change your voice a lot,

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you know, get them excited.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay. She like gets up there and

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does a little intro.

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Speaker 4: These kids are like not paying attention at all, and

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she like introduces me and I stand on this stage

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and this is obvious, this is a stretch, but like

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I need to get these kids attention, and I said, goo,

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here in this auditorium knows who Kai Sanad is.

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Speaker 3: And they all started screaming. They started freaking.

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Speaker 1: They in him on to the stage.

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Speaker 3: I hope not, because that did knock her.

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Speaker 4: He was not there, and they started losing their goddamn

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minds and they were they were locked in one.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, cool, that's what wwitches.

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Speaker 1: Oh anyway, I'm Mary, that's nothing.

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Speaker 4: I dropped the mic and I walked off the set

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and I talked for like a little bit about why

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they might want to get into game design, audio engineering.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I tried to like stretch.

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Speaker 4: It beyond what it is that we do, because games

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in general is a really exciting job, not just games media.

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We're talking about games, but just literally like game design

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is a really fascinating and they would need to start

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learning coding at that stage.

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Speaker 3: So trying to like spark their imaginations. But the second

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I think I said kay.

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Speaker 4: They were just basically like, I too wish to play

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Fortnite full time. And I was like, oh no, I've

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created seven hundred little little monsters.

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Speaker 2: And I just love this move of going off me

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and like.

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Speaker 1: Hey and by who knows the bond James, I know, great,

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neither of them.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be here today.

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Speaker 1: It's a really bold move. That's a Michael Scott ass

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kind of thing to do. Yeah, but if you're intem

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I'm a fucking brain surgeon. Speaking of kids, I'm on

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the I'm on the fourth season of the Wire, Chris.

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I've been telling them I'm rewatching the Wire for the

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third time. Season four. The education sy all the kids.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not the five is the journalism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the serial killer one, which is like definitely not

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the best but the only always.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the perfect show.

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Speaker 1: But no, the show's still really good. I bounce back

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and forth between what the best show ever made is?

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Speaker 2: In What Breaking That? Madmen?

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Speaker 1: I go back back and forth between like the Sopranos,

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mad Men, the Wire. Although I will say, and I'm

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trying to think of anything more recent than this, I

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really really they like Watchmen, like, oh yeah, just as

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a more recent one that I think could potentially be

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on the Mount Rushmore that we don't give as much

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credit because it's not like twenty five years old yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've already seen the critic No trying Jay Sherman,

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the animated TV show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like being a critic, let alone

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watching shows about them.

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Speaker 3: That would that be on your Mount Rushmore?

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Speaker 2: Chris, Oh No, I was just asking if I had

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seen it.

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Speaker 1: Oh what prompted that because I was criticizing shows?

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Speaker 2: No, No, no, I'm just curious. Just you message, we're

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talking about TV. You might like it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, I haven't seen it. Uh are

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you watching?

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Speaker 3: Of all time?

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Speaker 2: I told you. I've had a lot of coffee. It's

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a good show. I love. There's a lot of referential humorage,

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like nineteen ninety s Oh great when I was three, Yeah,

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fucking car partund Circle in Liverpool, New York.

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Speaker 3: Random shows.

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Speaker 2: You literally then this to the kids. You were like, hey,

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you're seen this person and then I try it and

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suddenly it's off the table.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sell it. You have to really sell it. Also.

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Speaker 4: That would also you know allude that you were saying

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that the critic is the Lebron James of television shows.

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Speaker 2: Before its time, So true, you know that's that is untouchable,

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John Love. It was the biggest on TV.

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Speaker 4: Imagine if I was covered in that and I said,

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who here knows Seinfeld and fucking crickets And I said, well,

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in its time it was.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: Fucking stupid kids.

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Speaker 2: Do you all remember that in the mash that was crazy?

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Everybody was watching.

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Speaker 1: We lost the war spoiler Yeah, oh no, no, no, sorry,

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that was Korea, not Vietnam. Was Korea? Or it was Korea?

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, the movie was Vietnam and the film or

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the TV series with Korea, I believe. So.

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Speaker 1: My dad liked the show, but like everything else my dad, Like,

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when I was young, I hated it, but now I

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love a lot of that. So maybe I need to

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go back and watch mash Mike.

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Speaker 2: How are you? How is your work in STEM going?

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Speaker 1: It's good? U have a few breakthroughs. Uh No, it's good.

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It's going well.

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Speaker 3: Ave lives around here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all. It's always funny when uh so, my

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wife is an architect. I guess I could say, Amanda,

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you both know her, it's always like feeling through it,

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so it's funny, like her job is making sure buildings

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don't murder a ton of people by collapsing. And then

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mine's just like it's always funny when I've had a

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rough day, just like in video games at all. And

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then she's like, yeah, she to her credit. She's never

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like discredits me. But then I'm like, anyway, how was

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your day? She's like, oh, this is fine. Then she

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walks me through what happened. I was like, oh, I

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guess the stakes are not that high in video games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We have to remind ourselves that all the time, right,

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like that this is on our worst days.

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Speaker 3: It's actually like a functional job. It is an inch show.

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Speaker 4: Wild Space be in which is why it's so coveted

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and probably why we're allowed to go through so much

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trauma because they know we'll deal with it.

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Speaker 3: But it's not as bad as working in the er.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, none of this is like my job.

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I'm just saying in general. When I tell her about

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like the video game industry stuff, she's like, oh, that

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that sounds rough.

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Speaker 2: And then question, have you asked her why the architects

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who keep building buildings in New York are not good?

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Speaker 1: Oh, she'll be the first to ask. She's the first

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to say it.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. They're all just they're all set to just

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fall down. I think every time I move with the

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New York Times, it's like, oh, another one of those

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buildings that we built. It turns out that it's fifteen

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00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:56,599
feet leaning the wrong way each year.

470
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Speaker 4: More yeah, or it looks like Baratt door, uh, construction

471
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,640
materials than it is the design, because I heard that

472
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,240
like like back in the day.

473
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: So my house is like.

474
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: One hundred and fifteen years old and it's made with

475
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:12,759
like one hundred and fifty year old trees. Like the

476
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:18,079
wood is like so unbelievably old that like it was

477
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,799
rock solid back then whereas like now they don't have

478
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,039
those those trees are gone and like there's none of

479
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:23,960
that wood left.

480
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: And I think that.

481
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,559
Speaker 2: They would love that excuse for the big buildings. But

482
00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:29,640
from what I can tell, every story is like, yeah,

483
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,759
they just missed a zero.

484
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, like materials. I mean, I Amanda listens to the

485
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,000
show every episode. She's probably like gonna tear her hair out.

486
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:43,599
I'm sure bad materials absolutely come into play. Like sometimes

487
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:46,119
I hear from like past job she's had, she comes

488
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,839
back and she's like, oh yeah, someone I'll just like

489
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,799
a supplier fucked this up and gave us the complete

490
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:53,400
wrong thing, which of course they replace it. But no, Yeah,

491
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:55,279
bad design is very much a thing.

492
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: But if it's calculations, should we go back to the abacus?

493
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,039
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's a good question. That's a real STEM question.

494
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: Maybe you should be in STEM.

495
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:12,599
Speaker 4: Everybody questions me, but I'm the one who asks real

496
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,839
questions around here brand the advocates.

497
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,559
Speaker 1: My favorite thing is there's a building on the west

498
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,359
side of New York. I want to say, like above

499
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,559
Hudson Yards. It is a triangular one plant. You probably

500
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:29,000
what I'm talking about about your ads? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mary,

501
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:31,039
you probably saw in the news too, because I want

502
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:34,240
to say, three four years ago something like that. Uh,

503
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,279
they Dorito's got ad space, and by that I mean

504
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,039
they got the right to project a giant cheese dorito

505
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,559
on the building, which is already shaped like a cheese derito,

506
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,079
like a dorito. And it's funnier when I learn more

507
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,279
about the designer, the architect of the buildings, name's b

508
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,559
arc Angles. Apparently he's like a very.

509
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: H I'm sorry, Klue Postrios. One second, you're telling me

510
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,119
that some that he made a triangle building is named Angles.

511
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: E N G L S. Yeah, okay, but close when

512
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480
you say it out loud, good, it's like a. It's

513
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,480
like a it's like a guy named Matt Edge made

514
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,400
a square building. No, it's just funny because apparently that

515
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,279
guy has really made His name was Dorito. It was

516
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,440
very full circle.

517
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: All right, Well, it looks good.

518
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: It's just funny to know that some of these architects

519
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,400
are very very like the smell of their own farts.

520
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,400
And then one day, though, who's to stop Dorito's from

521
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,240
getting a hold of their design and using it to

522
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:41,720
their advantage?

523
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: True, yeah, brilliant engineering. I mean, what better design? Structure

524
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:53,920
is there, then the pyramids have been doing great, is

525
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,480
all I'm saying. We got all these buildings that are

526
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,839
off by like a couple zeros, and they're leaning fifteen.

527
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,519
Speaker 3: It doesn't lean a fucking pyramid.

528
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: That's true. That's not true.

529
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,839
Speaker 3: I think structurally possible for pyramid to lean.

530
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.

531
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: I think it already is leaning. But there's four triangles

532
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,880
leaning into one another.

533
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: Well, write this down.

534
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: We need to back triangle buildings because they're obviously killing it.

535
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: Mary, where was all this material when you were talking

536
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,960
to the kids.

537
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,759
Speaker 4: I only needed one line. All I needed to do

538
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,519
is say, kaisana and you know what else? He truly

539
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,559
is in my mount rushmore of streamers and maybe in

540
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,039
basically just content creators in general. But like, it was

541
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,880
so funny to me how much all the kids, every

542
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,519
kid was freaking out. When I stepped down from the stage,

543
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,279
multiple parents came up to me and said, I obviously

544
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,720
got to.

545
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,559
Speaker 3: Look this guy up.

546
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:54,799
Speaker 4: I realized, parents do not know who these people are real.

547
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: There is a huge knowledge gap of like what the

548
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,160
kids are into.

549
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: Parents just understand. And it's true, it's so true. I actually,

550
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,480
when I was coming up with the Postgames of Soul

551
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,480
podcasts that you've already subscribed to you and thank you

552
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:14,720
for turing the Patreon. I was thinking about, like, oh,

553
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,279
is there a business that's just literally, Hey, you only

554
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,519
have twenty minutes this week where you're going to give

555
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:24,119
a shit about learning whatever your kid is into. I'm

556
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,759
going to explain it in twenty minutes, get out of

557
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,400
your way. But you're going to come away from this

558
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,079
knowing what the hell your kid is talking about, because

559
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,480
it's nuts. Whenever I talk to fellow parents and the

560
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,880
questions I get, I'm like, we are at the basics here,

561
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:43,160
like we are, we have barely stepped onto the beach,

562
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:47,160
let alone into the ocean. It's brutal. I think that's

563
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,920
the good thing. I will say this about all the

564
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,839
parents who are listening already. You were parents because video

565
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:56,119
games are right at the edge of everything. They're always

566
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,599
like light years ahead of every other type of parent roadblocks.

567
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: Games are wild and you have to be on top

568
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,680
of it. You want to get these youths attention, I

569
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,480
will say, just because you brought it up.

570
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,079
Speaker 3: I am not going to spend twenty minutes out of.

571
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: My day like researching the youths. But I do subscribe

572
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,079
to a sub stack called after School Casey Lewis, and

573
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,799
that's what that is about. It's just straight up like

574
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,839
I'm going to talk about the youths and what they're into.

575
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920
And it's like how I learned about like the fact

576
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,920
that like young people twenty one and up, but like

577
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,720
young people are doing buzzball parties where they're like having

578
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,640
like fancy dinners but they're serving buzzballs as the drink.

579
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,759
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's real, okay, genius, I like it.

580
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: But they talk about like teens too, and like, you know,

581
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,519
just just like what the kids are up to at

582
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,960
any given time, it's usually like fifteen to twenty five.

583
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,279
I'll and I think it's like really helpful for me

584
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,279
to be like, I don't know what the what the

585
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,799
fifteen year olds are into.

586
00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, anyway, gotta know I have to you know,

587
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,440
how else am I going to win them over? At

588
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,960
nine thirty am on a school day. It's so limiting.

589
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:09,720
The options that I had to win them over were

590
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,039
so slim. I mean it was kind.

591
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: Of like I was like a football star. There was

592
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,799
like ten seconds left on the clock and they were like,

593
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:20,920
we need you to score this touchdown.

594
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,359
Speaker 1: They call them very long pass and the end zone.

595
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:25,480
It's called the hell Mary.

596
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: It was a hail me and I did it. They

597
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,359
some kids did ask for my autograph.

598
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: I didn't want to let you guys know, and I said,

599
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,799
I just want to be clear that I am not famous,

600
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:39,400
and they said close enough, And I.

601
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,119
Speaker 1: Wait, genuine question their bags? Are you are? Are you

602
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,359
using that as euphemism for like a photo with them,

603
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,799
or like, do kids actually ask for autographs.

604
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,279
Speaker 3: Again my autograph.

605
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Because they're too young autographs? But that's cool.

606
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,319
Speaker 3: I like that my selfies. And they called me one girl.

607
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:58,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, I said they there was like seven hundred kids,

608
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160
but one girl called me a battie. And I have

609
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,119
to tell you there's no compliment like a schoolgirl calling

610
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:04,680
you a battye.

611
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:05,559
Speaker 3: That made me.

612
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: How do you like? How do you I find it funny.

613
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,559
Speaker 2: I don't.

614
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: Bad intro on it.

615
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: I don't even understand exactly what a baddie is.

616
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: I can only assume that it means a cool lady.

617
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: Yes, I walked away from that situation thinking I was

618
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,160
like God's gift to the middle school.

619
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:32,759
Speaker 1: That's what I've always called you.

620
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,599
Speaker 3: I was like, I've done it. I couldn't believe it,

621
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
but I don't. I don't think they're going to.

622
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: Be like holding up those uh autographs and reselling them

623
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,000
any times soon. They're probably in the garbage now. But

624
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:46,920
I felt really amazing walking away from it.

625
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Those children got like I would love to be a

626
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000
fly on the wall when they get back to their

627
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,000
their home after that school day, trying to explain who

628
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,319
spoke to them in the auditorium. Oh, this woman in stem,

629
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,839
this battie, she's again God's gift to middle schoolers. She

630
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,759
knows Kai Sanat he bailed less than it. Do you

631
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:10,160
know him?

632
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know of him? And they

633
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,480
were like, sign everything.

634
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: You signed my binder, so I'm.

635
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,599
Speaker 2: Over thirty and you know of him. I got you

636
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,279
to find this.

637
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: What a battie, they said. I said, yes, that is me.

638
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you killed it. It sounds like you did.

639
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,359
And you signed some autographs. I've never signed an autograph.

640
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:38,759
I would love to you one day.

641
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:42,519
Speaker 4: Really, so it's very rare, but I would say once

642
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:47,359
a year someone will recognize me from game Spot and

643
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,200
or Giant Bomb and or fire Escape and ask for.

644
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,519
Speaker 3: A photo and that feels.

645
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,079
Speaker 4: Really fucking amazing, and it's a wonderful experience.

646
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:57,039
Speaker 3: But it's very, very.

647
00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:00,559
Speaker 2: The best when you're not an actual thing this I

648
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:03,440
am not had this happen in a while, mostly because

649
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640
when I went to Polygon, when I became an editor

650
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,079
in cheap it's like a you just disappear into the

651
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:13,119
world job and uh, and now it feels a little

652
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,960
bit more. I exist. I was in New York last

653
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,240
week walking through like random ass in your park slope

654
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,559
and as I'm looking for the restaurant on my map,

655
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:26,119
somebody just comes up to me. I'm like, hey, your plan.

656
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:31,039
I was like yeah, and you and they're like, you know,

657
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,759
you're just a great person. And I just wanted to

658
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:35,599
say that, but I'm going to go to dinner. I

659
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,720
was like, that's great. That's the night. Like, is there

660
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,920
any greater thing anybody could randomly say to you? I

661
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,279
was like, oh, man, I was. I was lighting high

662
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,240
the rest of the trip. That was the best.

663
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: That's such a sweet thing for someone to say to

664
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:50,519
you that you're a great.

665
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: Person, you know, especially since I'm not.

666
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: As far as they know, you are a saint and

667
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,880
that's that must make you a christ. Last time someone

668
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,880
recognized me, which was at PAX, which is like such

669
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,119
a reasonable place to be found, and they said, I

670
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
love how much shit you give Dan, and I said thank.

671
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: You so so much, and to me not away from

672
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,119
that situation them thinking.

673
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: That I was a good person, but that I had

674
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:19,599
at least harmed Dan, and that.

675
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:26,679
Speaker 5: Was they were Yet again people recognized Dan as the

676
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,800
man who broke his thumb in a cheese bath.

677
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:35,559
Speaker 1: That's his claim the fame you are you aware of

678
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:36,039
what happened?

679
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: Show? All of the episode? Sometimes good because I love it.

680
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: People do say that.

681
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: I think the cheese bath was due and it's not

682
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,400
my fault that post cheese bath during the cleaning.

683
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: Phase, Oh my god, cleaning that took a while.

684
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 3: It was vile.

685
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,079
Speaker 1: We had to clean quite a quite a lot of

686
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:07,960
mac and cheese out of a full bath time.

687
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,639
Speaker 3: It was so goofy.

688
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,159
Speaker 1: There are you overcouked it? It was not Al dente

689
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,920
is my one criticism of the prank.

690
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 4: So many questions, I'm not meant to be in the kitchen.

691
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,880
I'm a pattie and stem.

692
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: The funniest part of that prank also, the byproduct was

693
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:29,599
trying to find normal pans in Dan's kitchen, of which

694
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:32,599
I think there was like one we had. We had

695
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,440
your pots and pans are just like, yeah, it's just scavenge.

696
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 2: For them, is it all?

697
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: Just like I think that's different now to like warm

698
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,360
up like a burrito from I think they fleshed it

699
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,320
out more since, but at the time it was.

700
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: Dan courring with a dowel rod.

701
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 4: They don't have items to cook with because I just

702
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,840
think that most of their items were like Dan was

703
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,679
doing a lot of like microwaveable meals, which is totally

704
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,199
understandable for his lifestyle and what he was doing.

705
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: I just couldn't find I couldn't find a spoon, I think.

706
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think it's I want to say

707
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,079
that he's cooked more since I think so he had

708
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,440
that he had that that stretch where he was bragging

709
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,760
about learning to cook and he was doing the thing

710
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,679
where he was catching up with the rest of us

711
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,000
and wanted like props for it, and I had to

712
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,280
indulge him. But yeah, I think he knows how to

713
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,800
cook a few things now, so it's good for him.

714
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,719
But he maybe he has more pots, But that god,

715
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,039
that cleanup was was annoying. But yeah, he broke his

716
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:40,119
thumb or something finger sprain his thumb. This is a question,

717
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:46,880
I know.

718
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:48,079
Speaker 2: There's so many questions about like where the cheese goes?

719
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,199
Speaker 3: Uh huh, you mean straight to the ass?

720
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: Oh? In the tube?

721
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: Okay, that's free phrase your question.

722
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: Do you mean in the tub when we cleaned it up?

723
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? And on the body in the top.

724
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,039
Speaker 1: He I don't know. I guess down the drain we

725
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:09,760
hose it down.

726
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: Is that hypothetical?

727
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's purely hypothetical.

728
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: If I was to be in a tub of cheese,

729
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,599
where the cheese goes?

730
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel much worth discussing. That's with you

731
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:28,880
there versus Dan his body is I.

732
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,039
Speaker 3: Think it could be anyone.

733
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,039
Speaker 2: His body has been given to the public for that

734
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,320
theoretical experiments. Okay, I think.

735
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: And he's in a pub.

736
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: In the top and it's full of cheese, sure like

737
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:46,199
it does it go underneath the fingernails? Does it? Does it?

738
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,440
We're not Does it congeal everywhere?

739
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: I think he absorbed some of the dairy too, not

740
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,800
that there's real milk and belveda, but yeah, you know,

741
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,280
you're he was. He was glowing. The next day. He

742
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,119
looked wonderful.

743
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,639
Speaker 3: Have you heard of wine baths?

744
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: Wine bags are legit and people pay money spa where

745
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,119
you sit in a top full of wine.

746
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,119
Speaker 3: Mike, I've thought about you.

747
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 4: I've seen these ads, and basically there's health benefits to

748
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,920
bathing and wine. I suspect to some degree there is

749
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:18,280
something that would alter of you when you bathe in cheese.

750
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,960
I just don't think it would be beneficial.

751
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:22,559
Speaker 2: Do you worry that it would be a little bit

752
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,599
like a fond dou pot, like a giant human sized

753
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,360
fond dow pot, and then that we would like dip

754
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,159
dan in it, and then we'd have to eat them

755
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:29,840
piece by piece.

756
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: I just consider cheese such a variation of butter, and

757
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,239
I just think when you roll crisco all over the

758
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,519
human body, it's usually not like something that makes it

759
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:40,840
more supple or soft. I feel like it's something that

760
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,239
would like make it break out.

761
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: And I've not heard of wine bats before, I believe

762
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:45,679
it or not.

763
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: Dude, you got to look them up. They have them

764
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,400
in Ay everywhere. Come visit me.

765
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in Japan too, don't they have the at

766
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,119
the saunas? Like there's don't have specialty baths?

767
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: Dump whole bottles in there, and apparently you know, I

768
00:38:58,079 --> 00:38:59,920
suppose like to some degree, it's just meant to be

769
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,000
so good for your skin. But I was wondering if

770
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:04,880
you'd get a little drunk, because you're like silently sure,

771
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:05,880
but I don't.

772
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Know, it's not you're boothing it. You'd be absorbing some

773
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,599
to the skin a bit too, I think, and like

774
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:11,840
some parts for your skin's not super thic, Like.

775
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: How can you be sure that nobody took a pass

776
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,480
in the wine?

777
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,519
Speaker 3: Well, I think you get your own point.

778
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: It's going to be that's so much wine. Yeah, for real,

779
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:23,880
that's so much wine.

780
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: Wait, all right, let me look up how much? Okay,

781
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,320
what is a what is the volume of a typical

782
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,519
bath tub? In millileters? Not interested in AI mode? Fuck off?

783
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,840
Seven fifty MILLI leaders? No? Wait? Sorry? Uh in mill

784
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,800
leaders or not? Say leaders? Christ makes more sense?

785
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: Ball parking it? Seven bottles? Will do you do you think?

786
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:51,639
Speaker 2: Seven? Well, you're still a tub.

787
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,039
Speaker 4: I would say that if I put seven bottles in

788
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:55,960
a bucket and you sat in it, you'd be like,

789
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,039
I'm in a tub of wine.

790
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,519
Speaker 1: Uh uh?

791
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: If I in a bucket?

792
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a bucket, yeah, didn't a bucket, but a bathtub.

793
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:03,079
That married wowl.

794
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna put me in a bucket?

795
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: Leaders, So am a normal bathtub?

796
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,679
Speaker 2: Average, it's decaded, this is a luxury. It's I have

797
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,360
random bottles of yellow tail and I'm putting them in

798
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,360
a bucket, and then I'm making you exclusion to the bucket.

799
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:23,119
Speaker 5: I'm a woman in stem our engineered this battie.

800
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,039
Speaker 3: This is modestly priced wine bucket.

801
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: Okay, a typical bathtub.

802
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: But I was just thinking of your finance.

803
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:35,159
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you. I realized that I was

804
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:36,639
paying for my own punishment.

805
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not the best with math, so I'm gonna

806
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,679
do rattle some off and hopefully it's okay. So that

807
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,239
typical bathtub holds between one hundred and thirty one hundred

808
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,519
and eighty liters of water. One leader is one thousand

809
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,239
milli leaders, an average A bottle of wine is seven

810
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,880
hundred fifty mili leaders. Unless you're talking about like magnums

811
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,079
or jerobombs or nebukinnesssers and stuff. Let's say it's a

812
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:01,480
normal bottle seven hundred fifty miters, so a hundred thirty

813
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:04,880
times a thousand one hundred thirty thousand MILLI leaders, how

814
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,000
many what's one hundred thirty.

815
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,519
Speaker 2: Eighty bottles of wine would take.

816
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: To fill bath?

817
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Touch fucking flew over there?

818
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: I was.

819
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: I did the work, and he got He knew what

820
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,880
equations us because I got there. That's how math works.

821
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,599
Stem Mary thinks math is just having an answer ready

822
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:27,440
to go. Of wine would be fine for a wind bath.

823
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: The type of wine and the mill leaders within that

824
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,039
type of.

825
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I didn't say the type of wine. We're not, although

826
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,840
I am curious what kind of wine they use for

827
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,360
these baths. Is it red?

828
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: It's got it? It's red in the phone, Oh.

829
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always Do you imagine if it was white?

830
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:45,320
It would just a big pissed bath. Yeah, Oh dude.

831
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 3: Here I am in my shirt in eate bath, and yeah.

832
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,119
Speaker 1: I take a shabble bath any day of the week.

833
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,920
It would be. I would just like dunking myself whoops,

834
00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:58,719
and then just chugging on.

835
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: Oh whoops.

836
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: Oh what I fell again. Oh my god, I'm oh

837
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,920
my god, I'm drowning in this chapline. Oh my god,

838
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Someone tell Mary you do get drunk doing this And

839
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,880
it's totally through my skin and my butt, not my mouth.

840
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,519
And that's that's what they called me in college. Yeah,

841
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:22,920
I'll have to look these wine bass up. I don't

842
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,400
want one.

843
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,119
Speaker 3: For the record, I'm not interested.

844
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go to go to one of these spas

845
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:34,920
and then ask what vintage it is. It just be

846
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,039
the biggest prick in the world.

847
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,079
Speaker 4: Check out Mary's Wine Buckets because we have really good deals.

848
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,679
On you sitting in a bucket of yellowtail wine.

849
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: I see one first seven to take to take a

850
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:52,840
wine bath for.

851
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,039
Speaker 3: On That sounds expensive, your, Yeah.

852
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,519
Speaker 2: Is expensive. It's called veno therapy. Popped there in like

853
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,559
ten years ago.

854
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,639
Speaker 1: Oh, rape seed oil.

855
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, like actually going down this rabbit hole you brought.

856
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: I did I think that?

857
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: When Walmart came up as one of the options, great, I.

858
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,559
Speaker 4: Mean that's I need my wine therapy And it's like

859
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,320
on all their towels in their kitchen.

860
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,599
Speaker 2: Liked it, and yeah, it's a it's a bath bomb,

861
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,119
it says wine time.

862
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

863
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: I love cooking with wine sometimes I even put it

864
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:43,719
in the food. All this fucking dumb ass glasses that

865
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,159
you buy on Amazon.

866
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,599
Speaker 3: I don't think so that's what you mean.

867
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so, bro, I don't think so bro,

868
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,079
I didn't go get my I'm gonna go get my my,

869
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:57,159
my wooden cask beer.

870
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you guys talk about video games.

871
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I get my beer beer.

872
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: That's that's how we break for games. So we're breaking now. Okay, yeah,

873
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:10,440
like five minutes, two three, come, all right, let's talk

874
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,280
about video games and hopefully Mary's computer doesn't blow up

875
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,360
or whatever just happened. If it does, and she sounds

876
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,039
weird the rest of the episodes because we switched over

877
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,920
to some backup audio. All you all the audio nerds,

878
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,119
and the comments like this doesn't sound as crisp as

879
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:27,719
it usually does. You fucking deal with it, I Mary,

880
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:30,079
speaking of scary stuff.

881
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: What's up?

882
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: You played Silent Hill? F?

883
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: It's my favorite time of year.

884
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,519
Speaker 1: First of all, sober, Why where does the F come from?

885
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:42,639
Is there like an in universe explanation for it?

886
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

887
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: I I don't think I actually know the answer to

888
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,639
that question. What I will say is that this is

889
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:54,519
completely different than every other Silent Hill in terms of like,

890
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:55,920
it's a totally different.

891
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: Same universe, just in Japan, right.

892
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: It's in Japan.

893
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: You are like school girl, you know, with your with

894
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,280
your baddy friends. It's a very different environment, and I

895
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,679
wonder if they just added f so that you weren't like,

896
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:13,079
am I going to be playing as the same traditional

897
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:16,559
characters in Silent Hill, like you're not in Silent Hill?

898
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:18,559
Speaker 3: It's probably one.

899
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: Actually, really quick before we go on, Yeah, if you

900
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,760
could do an exercise with me that all you have

901
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,280
a pin in the paper nearby?

902
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, but I have a pen.

903
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do it. Okay, looks like looks like

904
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,039
you've got it. Great, great, great. I just want you

905
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,800
to write this down for me. Okay, Okay, are you ready, Mary,

906
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,920
I'm ready? Okay. Oh is there like a clever n

907
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:44,440
I just want to write this down Silent Hill? Yeah,

908
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:52,039
f yeah, art, okay, okay. Now I want you to

909
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,519
hold it up to the camera so that we can

910
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:58,679
uh Now, it appears that you're a Silent Hill fart.

911
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: Don't Mary. I don't think you're listening to what you

912
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,000
said to do.

913
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: I can't believe I wasted my lipliner to do this.

914
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,199
Speaker 1: Is your handwriting always that bad?

915
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: It's lipliners.

916
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Mine's really bad as Oh it's alipliner. I see what

917
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:17,719
you mean.

918
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: I looked nice. I could read it.

919
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

920
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,639
Speaker 4: It's a no matter what the penmanship, Chris can always

921
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,519
tell a fart.

922
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:31,079
Speaker 1: So are you what are you thinking of the game overall?

923
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:32,440
Have you played much of it? Are you kind of?

924
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

925
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,039
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to always for me to tell

926
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:38,320
in these because Silent Hills sometimes can be quite long,

927
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,199
and so you don't. I'm actually not confident how far

928
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,719
into the game I am, but I will tell you

929
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,079
I I absolutely think it's a great addition to the

930
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:51,679
Silent Hill franchise. So, as I said, totally different. Maybe

931
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,000
it's like the same universe, but you're not in Silent Hill.

932
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:58,039
You are in like a small town in rural Japan.

933
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,840
You are like a school girl with your school people

934
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,119
friends going to school when a fog rolls in and

935
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,079
literally one of them just gets like axe right in

936
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:07,599
front of you.

937
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: There's like a the fog.

938
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 4: Changes their skin, makes them bleed out of the pores

939
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,920
of their skin, and then they just straight up like die,

940
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,559
And so you're running from the fog and that's kind

941
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:25,000
of what starts a very quick stresser of this game.

942
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:29,559
The enemies are also insanely freaky.

943
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: They look like dolls.

944
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

945
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: Silent Hill is known for their half hot, half scary

946
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:40,639
enemy types, and this is no different the enemies. There's

947
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,559
two different main ones that have come across so far.

948
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,079
One they straight up do look like dolls, Like they

949
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:46,639
have the doll parts, you know, or like that leg.

950
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:48,280
You can see the line all the way around the

951
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,840
leg and it looks like, you know, you could like

952
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,320
rotate it all the way around like a doll. They

953
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,159
do that, and they're in terribly horrible warped positions with

954
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,679
huge like arched backs and like bent arms.

955
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,079
Speaker 3: Very upset, you know, like.

956
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: The models that use when you're like learning how to

957
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,760
draw in school.

958
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: Yes, they look like they look like that, a little

959
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,360
like Uncanny Valley, but they're human enough that that would

960
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,679
really stress you out. They are branded with some kind

961
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,440
of knife usually or like MACHETI or some kind of

962
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,079
sharp object, and they really run at you this game,

963
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:26,880
unlike other Silent Hills where I felt like I was

964
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,119
often dodging enemy attacks and previous Silent Hills just to

965
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,880
preserve my health, and in this one they really are

966
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,480
kind of I think encouraging you to get into combat.

967
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:39,400
I felt like I was basically forced into combat more

968
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:46,599
than multiple times. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a combat game.

969
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:48,119
I did run away a lot, but.

970
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: They're putting me.

971
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 4: They're putting me in a space where I had to

972
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:56,639
kill these dolls and then the other enemy that I

973
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,119
keep coming across, which is really stressful. I'm going to

974
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,039
call them like scared or crow adjacent enemy types. They

975
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:05,480
look like they could be scarecrows. Or they're in a

976
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,880
field the first time you see them, and uh, you

977
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,400
have to pull like and I don't know, you do

978
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:13,280
put thorns?

979
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

980
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: Well, they call it thorns when it's like nails with

981
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,960
like little notes on them.

982
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:19,639
Speaker 4: Yes, and you have to pull them out of their

983
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,159
bodies and if you get it wrong, they come to

984
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,199
life and attack you.

985
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,039
Speaker 3: And if you get it right, you get they.

986
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,599
Speaker 1: Can get it wrong. Sorry, is it like a puzzle?

987
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: It is a puzzle, very puzzly. Sorry, I went ahead

988
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:29,880
of myself. Go ahead, Chris.

989
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: Did you did you like this puzzle? This puzzle is

990
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,880
the people who love this low. They're like, you go

991
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,800
into a field and there are six scarecrow and you

992
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,880
need to pick the right one. Yeah, top of a mystery. Yeah,

993
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,800
And if you don't know, I'm at you it's the

994
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,679
best part of the game. Once you get that a game,

995
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,719
it's really good. And I don't I don't know you

996
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,679
didn't like it, Well, can you describe the puzzle?

997
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: Sure, I will try and describe the puzzle. So you're sayah,

998
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:04,119
and a foul on sex spacraws, and there will be

999
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:06,400
a person that is essentially saying if you try and

1000
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,760
run into the mist, the mist will just magically transport

1001
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,119
you back to the same field. So you have to

1002
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:16,159
pick the right person who will point in a very

1003
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:20,079
specific direction for you to continue your journey in this

1004
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:24,639
foggy field. And then the puzzle will usually be it's

1005
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:28,360
usually through like the voice of a random person, and

1006
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,800
so they'll be like, I always loved hanging out with you,

1007
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:34,119
even though I know deep down inside your smile was

1008
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:37,280
a lie and you were hollow inside. And you'll be like, Okay,

1009
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,000
what the fuck does that mean? And so you'll look

1010
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:41,440
at all these scarecrows and you have to interpret what

1011
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:45,880
you think that messages into which face that most likely represents.

1012
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,800
Do you think it means that the person smiles because

1013
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,360
the person said you smile even though you were sad inside?

1014
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,079
Or should they be the sad scarecrow because they are

1015
00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:59,280
actually sad, but they had a smile and faked it.

1016
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:04,559
And so you're like guessing the interpretation of what I

1017
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,320
think is a very vague description of a person.

1018
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: And my answer, yeah, go.

1019
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,679
Speaker 2: Ahead, Yeah, Well there's like three difficulties. Yes, And I

1020
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,679
looked up a guide because I was like, oh, man,

1021
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:18,440
I don't know what's going on here. Yeah, the easiest

1022
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,320
difficulty made the least sense in the hardness difficulty, I

1023
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,519
was like, oh, I hadn't nailed that one.

1024
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:26,079
Speaker 4: I was on hard to agree. So maybe that's why

1025
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,480
I felt like I got it.

1026
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: That I should have played that, because mine was like,

1027
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,039
I can't believe you stab me in the back. And

1028
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,320
it's like a person stabbing someone in the back, and

1029
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,760
it's like nope, nope, try again, stupid idiot.

1030
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:48,039
Speaker 1: Idiot doesn't I don't like vague puzzles.

1031
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: In the hard mode a lot of the Well, actually

1032
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,639
I didn't play easy mode. I didn't play baby ass

1033
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:57,559
baby mode. So maybe you can tell me. Did they

1034
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:01,119
have masks on? Because what I recognized with when they

1035
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:04,239
said something like you are smiling, but I know deep

1036
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,559
down inside you were upset. The mask was smiling and

1037
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,639
the person was upset, and so it was a It

1038
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:11,920
was a two fur for me to recognize that the

1039
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,199
mask is the mask that we wear and the way

1040
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,280
they actually wear where it was was sad? Did they

1041
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,400
have masks in childlike mode?

1042
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: At a certain point, I just started killing everyone.

1043
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:27,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say I did fine on the first one.

1044
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,920
I actually like, didn't get it right on my second

1045
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,039
one three times, and then I got the first. I

1046
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:34,760
got it right on the first try on my third one,

1047
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,800
so it's like I made even it's solid.

1048
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 3: We all make mistakes.

1049
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: That's so true. Thank you for making me feel better

1050
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,559
about my decision to just murder thousands.

1051
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: Of It's hard though, because the.

1052
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 4: Just like in other silent hills like your your items

1053
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,119
have durability and so you don't really want to just

1054
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:00,599
get into combat willy nilly, because you're burning through you're

1055
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:01,760
good items.

1056
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: Uh so you were playing on hard on that also?

1057
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:06,480
I see on combat?

1058
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sorry, Oh no, we've been playing a different game.

1059
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,519
Is there not ability on easy mode?

1060
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:16,039
Speaker 2: It's well, I was playing on wherever the normal mode

1061
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:20,960
is right, and I was fucking god, I was you

1062
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:24,760
there's a dodge freeze dodge in this game. That is,

1063
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:31,239
you are literally just neo for matrix. You like literally

1064
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,000
enemies would I would just wait for them to attack

1065
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:36,719
me because I was like, oh man, I'm gonna kill

1066
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,719
you if you even dare to come at me. Wow.

1067
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,079
Which the game. It's a weird game because you would

1068
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,000
think that doesn't align with the story at all. But

1069
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,800
if you think of this story as one about a

1070
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,760
woman realizing that she in fact can't be a baddie

1071
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,440
h it does it doesn't work? Well, you can't at

1072
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,880
first because it is a hill game, which means I

1073
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,719
don't know how to say this now without it seeming

1074
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,880
inappropriate about like horrible men who abuse women. It's true, yeah,

1075
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:11,760
you know the kind of the theme of the game.

1076
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,199
But then you like get i don't know, like a

1077
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:17,840
broken piece of pipe, and instantly you're like, I'm going

1078
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,519
to kill God himself. Yeah, Like you're just zipping around. Yeah,

1079
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:26,679
I mean I'm here. What did you think about the story?

1080
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:27,440
How far?

1081
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,079
Speaker 1: How far are you?

1082
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm well, that's what I was saying. I'm actually not

1083
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:35,239
sure how far I am. I'm like past the school.

1084
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,039
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you're in it.

1085
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 3: I'm in it.

1086
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,039
Speaker 4: I think it's great so far, But you know, like

1087
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:45,079
most Silent Hill games, the ending is going to be

1088
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:48,159
what probably makes me decide whether or not I think

1089
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:49,280
this is all justified.

1090
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: But I just want to say, like.

1091
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:57,039
Speaker 4: Mechanically, I'm really liking how they've connected the game to

1092
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:00,079
the world building. Because I get all these items, and

1093
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:02,239
it could be anything from like chocolate to like a

1094
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,920
fizzy drink to a bandage. I can use them, I

1095
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,440
can or I can sell them. But these shrines and

1096
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:13,280
I can upgrade my character. So if I'm not using

1097
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,039
all these items, if I'm playing really efficiently or effectively,

1098
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:20,079
I'm selling them and I'm upgrading my my combat ability

1099
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,519
or you can sell them. And I think this is

1100
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:25,039
like a gambling thing because I think it's random. But

1101
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,880
I got random upgrades and one of them was like

1102
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,639
that I just was way more efficient with hitting people

1103
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:35,280
with my weapon, and I was like, that's one hundred

1104
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,480
percent worth all of all of this currency. And so

1105
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:43,159
I've enjoyed the mechanics of the game. I've enjoyed the environment.

1106
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,880
I've enjoyed this story so far. I knew I was

1107
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,760
going to going to a school, and goddamn it, this

1108
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,760
school is so scary. Like the school was so scary.

1109
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,960
It was like such a scary sequence of like these

1110
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,320
goddamn things are like hiding behind everything and crawling around.

1111
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,840
And I think it's great. I think it's done a

1112
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,000
fantastic job so far. But I think I have to

1113
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,039
see how it ends.

1114
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: I have one more question, what do you think of

1115
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:09,800
the phantom zone with the wolf boy?

1116
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:13,559
Speaker 3: Ah, with the wolf Boy. I don't know if I

1117
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:14,000
get it.

1118
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,119
Speaker 2: Uh.

1119
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: I just assumed that it was just more atmosphere. But

1120
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:20,400
Silent Hill is known for me being like I don't

1121
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,920
know what that's all about. Yeah, so my my my

1122
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,800
answer is I don't know. I don't know what.

1123
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I get it.

1124
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,119
I enjoyed it. It's like it was a good change

1125
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:30,519
of pace.

1126
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:33,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta play it.

1127
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,679
Speaker 4: I mean now, after talking to you, I'm like, you

1128
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,400
guys should play it on hard, because, like I I.

1129
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: Think I should.

1130
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,559
Speaker 1: The combat was I always do.

1131
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:47,519
Speaker 4: Very challenging, and I I thought I thought that, like

1132
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,559
that is the way to play these because you want

1133
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,320
to be scared and you want it to challenge you.

1134
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:57,320
The puzzles being on hard is also pretty wild, Like

1135
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,920
it's one thing to have to change difficulty setting. It's

1136
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,920
another to be like, what do you want your combat

1137
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,599
difficulty to be?

1138
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,039
Speaker 3: Cool?

1139
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:05,679
Speaker 4: What do you want your puzzle difficulty to be? And

1140
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,880
I was like, what, like, you can change that, and

1141
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,559
you can. I made both of them like very difficult

1142
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:12,440
because I want the game to be difficult and it

1143
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,000
is a hard game to get through. But I think

1144
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:19,039
that that's I didn't play this to like seamlessly breeze

1145
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:20,760
through it. I want to be scared, and I want

1146
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,719
to be grossed out, and I want to be confused,

1147
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:23,679
and I got all of those.

1148
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I really should have done that, because there's like there

1149
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,159
are these like mini possis that meet. They're huge, like

1150
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,440
the size of a tank, and I would just beat

1151
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,920
it down with my pipe until it died part time

1152
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,960
and it can't be killed, so I just wake up

1153
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,639
and then the second it woke up, I just beat

1154
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:43,639
it down and then I go back to someone whatever

1155
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,960
puzzle I had, Oh.

1156
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: My god, that part was so stressful to me. I

1157
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,039
used all of my weapons to take it down once

1158
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,920
and then I got halfway through the puzzle and it

1159
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,800
came back to life and I.

1160
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: Went, what the fuck have any items?

1161
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,599
Speaker 2: Nah? As I rolled up like a newspaper and swatting

1162
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:02,719
it on the nose. I was like, please stop, and

1163
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,199
I was like.

1164
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,599
Speaker 4: We had a very different experience playing this game.

1165
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,239
Speaker 1: Like a crimson Head from res remake.

1166
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:16,679
Speaker 4: Oh, they do like regenerate and the ones in the

1167
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:20,679
field they're fucked up too. I will just say, uh,

1168
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:23,719
they're They're the kind of thing where you'll look at

1169
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:25,559
all of them, like, so you'll see six in a field,

1170
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,679
but to find the one that you want, you need

1171
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:31,519
to look around. So I'd look at one specifically and

1172
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:34,440
then I would hear something and I would turn around

1173
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:37,639
and one of them had moved. And so usually in

1174
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,599
these like field situations or even in the school, if

1175
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,320
things are standing still, not always, sometimes they're actually like

1176
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,119
playing still. But when you turn your back, they'll they'll

1177
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:52,960
run up to you. And that shit is so scary.

1178
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,960
That will get me every time that the things are

1179
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,480
moving when you're not looking at them. Oh, I just

1180
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,599
get like stressed out things king about it. I will say,

1181
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:06,800
I did look up some puzzles. I got absolutely stomped

1182
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,960
on these locker puzzles where I think they were just

1183
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,920
straight up like some of them were just brutal math

1184
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,199
sequences and I was like, I ain't doing all that

1185
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,599
I could, but I don't want to. I didn't have

1186
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:23,119
my abacuss on me, and I just didn't. I wasn't prepared,

1187
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,239
so I just looked up one locker code answer.

1188
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: Wow, that's the truth.

1189
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: Really, I really want to play it. It seems up

1190
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:37,280
my alley. I also have recently restarted The Quarry because

1191
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,159
I got into it a decent amount two years ago

1192
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:41,719
whenever it first came out I think it was two

1193
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,239
years ago. And I love super massive stuff, so I

1194
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:48,440
want to keep playing that. But I also the more I.

1195
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,079
Speaker 3: Have you played The Quarry before, Yeah, I.

1196
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:52,679
Speaker 1: Got like a third of the way into it from

1197
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:56,800
my understanding of length. Other stuff came out for work,

1198
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,840
I'm sure or something like that.

1199
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,239
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

1200
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't like quit from exhaustion or disinterest.

1201
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was good. I don't think Yeah,

1202
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:06,920
problem with those types of games is quite.

1203
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,119
Speaker 1: A bit, and I just kind of wanted those vibes.

1204
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:18,800
But I also the more time I spend on this Earth,

1205
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,519
the more I think about Alan Wake two. Since I

1206
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:25,000
played that game, I fucking love that game, and uh

1207
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:27,960
I sometimes I'm like always fighting off replaying that game.

1208
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:30,280
I really should not replay that game right now because

1209
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,400
we have a I have quite a lot of other

1210
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,239
things to catch up on before Game of the Year

1211
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,079
and Alan Wake two.

1212
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,239
Speaker 2: I really want to go back and actually just play

1213
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,679
that game, because I when it came out, it ran

1214
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,760
like garbage on my PC for whatever reason.

1215
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: I think it was a Yeah, it was a widespread problems.

1216
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: It was such a bummer too, because there were entire

1217
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:54,000
parts I remember the musical number so yeah, yeah, just

1218
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,159
completely bombed out time after two.

1219
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: That must really ruin your ability to enjoy it.

1220
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:02,079
Speaker 4: Do you have an like do you perchance have like

1221
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:04,599
like a handheld that's like thousand dollars?

1222
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:10,639
Speaker 2: M well, I am an ally on the Republic of Gamers.

1223
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:15,480
I try to be you know, I try to be

1224
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,119
the man that I want to see in the world.

1225
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: Dress if you want. But in consoles, I bet it

1226
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:25,360
would play great on that. So that's a shame.

1227
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, when not play great on that

1228
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:34,440
that Xbox handheld Xbox games, you would think it would

1229
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,039
be the opposite. I'm sorry, this is like, this is

1230
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:45,280
you pushed into my life. Number one thing. I'm I

1231
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,400
try not to be the shock jock Radio person. Something

1232
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,079
about this handheld truly just drives me the skin wants

1233
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:58,639
to leave my skeleton. It is so absurd that the

1234
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:01,360
entire marketing is this is an Xbox, and then they

1235
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,559
made an Xbox and it doesn't play Xbox games. It's

1236
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,320
the funniest shit on the planet. And funny, I mean

1237
01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:09,199
it's like just derange.

1238
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows the decision making?

1239
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: I will say, like it's it's alan Wick two was

1240
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,440
like kind of shocking for everyone who was like, you

1241
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:21,800
have to play this game.

1242
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,639
Speaker 3: And I think I was also distracted in the musical sequence.

1243
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: I forget what was happening, but I think my dog

1244
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:30,639
was like coughing up a hairball or something was happening,

1245
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:32,519
and I just remember being distracted. And I remember like

1246
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,760
everyone was like did you get to that scene? And

1247
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,440
I was like yeah, it was cool, and everyone was like,

1248
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,519
but wasn't it life altering? And I was like, oh,

1249
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:44,800
I just thought it was like a funky little dancing scene,

1250
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:45,679
and I just didn't.

1251
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: I did not.

1252
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:50,639
Speaker 4: Get the same immersion that so many people got from

1253
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:51,280
that experience.

1254
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: Uh No, I think I was.

1255
01:02:57,519 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: In the games when I stream them, I will say

1256
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,440
some games I think are harder to stream than others. Yeah,

1257
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,639
I will not stream like an elden Ring, for example,

1258
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:08,440
because there's no way I would enjoy it. I would

1259
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,440
be too focused on how embarrassed I am that I've

1260
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,360
died five hundred times to the same boss.

1261
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:13,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.

1262
01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: Don't think I would actually be able to just like

1263
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:20,159
appreciate it. But some games I've really enjoyed streaming.

1264
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it's it's I mean it's possible to

1265
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,440
not love that scene, even if you were playing it

1266
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,239
offline or on.

1267
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,599
Speaker 4: Off dog is coughing up a hairball. You are distracted.

1268
01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,519
Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna get everybody the same way. I

1269
01:03:33,159 --> 01:03:36,000
big picture wise, that game, I just absolutely love that

1270
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:39,119
they they made two games that are very very different

1271
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:43,039
within that one one which is like inspired by Taxi

1272
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:46,760
Driver and acid trips and like liminal spaces, and then

1273
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,480
they put Allen in there. And then the other one

1274
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:51,320
was more straight up survival horror in the Pack Northwest,

1275
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:56,840
And you could play either one up until basically the

1276
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,920
like penultimate scene, and then go to the other one.

1277
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:01,519
I was jumping back and forth. I think that's the

1278
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:03,840
ideal way to play that game. But I know people

1279
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,320
who just played all the way through Saga's stuff before

1280
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,559
they went even tried Allen's which is super cool. But

1281
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:12,840
that game didn't come out this year, so I have

1282
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,079
to play other stuff to have ammunition against Dan, Mary

1283
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:16,480
and Jake.

1284
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,639
Speaker 4: It's true we have to like really start, you know,

1285
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,559
just stacking the decks because we have to fight Dan

1286
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:26,480
on anything that he's going to bring to the table.

1287
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: Death Beginning two is in trouble.

1288
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,679
Speaker 1: Speaking of stacking the decks, I have been playing Monster

1289
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,239
Train two, which is a rubliic deck builder, So thank

1290
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,840
you Mary for the transition. You're Monster Train one. I

1291
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,000
want to say it came out in twenty twenty one

1292
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,480
something like that a few years ago. Really great game,

1293
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,199
both that game and this The art, how do I

1294
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,639
say it? It's not the yeah art style art direction

1295
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,679
doesn't really do them many favors. They look kind of

1296
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,639
slay the Spiery in a bad way, just slay the

1297
01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:04,800
Spire looked like it had that like paper cutout vibe

1298
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,480
that I don't think translated all that well in the

1299
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,760
first game. I mean, it was a great game by

1300
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:10,119
all means.

1301
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: That saturated. It was what it feels, very saturated.

1302
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,239
Speaker 1: It's not saturated for me. It's like, literally, it just

1303
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:21,320
looks like cheap is the best way I could put it.

1304
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:23,920
But Monster Trained two and I said that about Tower

1305
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,360
Dominion too, my another one of my favorite games this year,

1306
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,559
which is a tower defense game. But Monster Train two

1307
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,119
is phenomenal. I don't did you either of you play

1308
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:32,480
Monster Train the first game?

1309
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: I'll be real card games.

1310
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough that I don't like the whole genre.

1311
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,599
I would say this one kind of unlocked them for

1312
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:48,639
me in certain ways. But just elevator pitch. You're on

1313
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:53,920
a train hurtling toward the final boss, and the train

1314
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:58,960
is composed of four levels, so enemies will come in.

1315
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,880
Anyones you don't kill in THETTOM level will advance to

1316
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,599
the top level, and then the third, and then to

1317
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:05,239
your core, which is basically your trans engine, which can

1318
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,519
do damage to them, but it also takes enough damage

1319
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:12,519
and it's destroyed, ends your run. But there's also a

1320
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:14,719
ton of ways you can manipulate this, where you can

1321
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,400
move someone from the third floor to the first. You

1322
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,320
can move your characters, you can move their characters. The

1323
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,480
deck building comes into play in that you have your

1324
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,639
main faction and a champion. Your champion it costs like

1325
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:30,320
basically zero ap to place on the train and obviously

1326
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,119
is the most powerful character, but then they're surrounded by

1327
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,920
more minions and spells, et cetera. And throughout the course

1328
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,800
of the run you are deciding how best to flesh

1329
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,559
this deck out. You have an ally faction where you're

1330
01:06:43,559 --> 01:06:45,559
getting some units too. You're not getting its champion, but

1331
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:48,079
you're getting some of the lower tier units. You are

1332
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:52,760
deciding which cards to destroy. Which to me, before I

1333
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,480
start playing this game a lot, again, I haven't played

1334
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,079
a lot of Heartstone, I haven't played a lot of

1335
01:06:57,239 --> 01:07:01,480
Magic the Gathering Arena, so destroying cards and like moving

1336
01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:03,880
cards out of your rotation, the benefit didn't really dawn

1337
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,360
on me until I play this game is that you

1338
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,480
increase the chances of getting the other cards that you

1339
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:09,599
like by taking out the cards that you don't love,

1340
01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:12,960
because they might get reshoveled into your hand. But generally speaking,

1341
01:07:13,079 --> 01:07:16,320
it's I don't think it does. It's not doing anything

1342
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,519
revolutionarily different from the first game, Monster Train. But there

1343
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:24,800
are new factions, there are new effects. A lot of

1344
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,079
times you're stacking these different buffs, these different there's valor,

1345
01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:34,039
this thing this time around which your characters can accumulate

1346
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:37,119
by taking damage, they can accumulate by you playing certain

1347
01:07:37,159 --> 01:07:40,519
cards to the point where each of these valor points

1348
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:43,320
will add up to multipliers on there. There's a bit

1349
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,559
of Blattro in this game, which I think Blatro also,

1350
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:49,360
like I think a lot of people who aren't really

1351
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,519
into deck building games got into Bolattro because the deck

1352
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:57,320
building was so well integrated into the roguelide aspects. There's

1353
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,280
an element of that here where you can really break

1354
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,960
the game if you play your cards right. Literally, but

1355
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:03,480
you could.

1356
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,119
Speaker 4: Do that in the first You what you could do

1357
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:09,159
that in the first Monster Hunter, Monster Train.

1358
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:12,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not new, yeah, but

1359
01:08:12,159 --> 01:08:15,159
I'm saying they still held on to that core, like

1360
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,319
they want you to kind of think about how you

1361
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,239
might actually make this character indestructible. So I'm loving it.

1362
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:24,640
I'm only six runs in. I've gotten close to the

1363
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,880
final boss on the fifth, but like many a Rogue Light,

1364
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,159
you're also unlocking quite a bit between runs. You're upgrading

1365
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:37,560
individual factions, unlocking new ones, and it's great. I'm liking

1366
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,520
it quite a bit. I'm going to keep playing it,

1367
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,840
and it's definitely absolutely unless it runs poorly on steam Deck.

1368
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,119
I can't imagine it not being amazing steam Deck game.

1369
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:49,520
So that's going to be my travel game for the

1370
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,680
foreseeable future. And if you like first Monster Train or

1371
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:57,279
you didn't get around to playing it, and you like

1372
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,079
I would, I honestly say I love Bilotro like many

1373
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:04,760
people did. Maybe check out Monster Train too, see if

1374
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,600
it kind of scratches the same mich because it did

1375
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:07,319
for me for sure.

1376
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: So you're saying it's a talkie game.

1377
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:15,279
Speaker 1: Super talky, Yeah, yeah, there is actually Weirdly this game,

1378
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,000
they introduce this like lower codex where you can unlock story,

1379
01:09:19,119 --> 01:09:21,840
which does not play against your will while you're trying

1380
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,760
between runs. But there is a codex you can go

1381
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,920
to and read lore if you care, and I don't care. Sure,

1382
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,920
no offense, no offense. I'm sure there's a lot of

1383
01:09:29,079 --> 01:09:32,439
well written stuff there for people who made this. Uh I,

1384
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,439
shiny Shoe. I believe it's the studio, sure, I just

1385
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,279
uh I just that's not what I'm there for. I

1386
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:44,479
get my lore elsewhere. I'm on the Warframe wiki. I'm

1387
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,520
on the Warhammer wiki all the time. It's enough lore

1388
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:46,800
for me.

1389
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 3: I get lots more in my own way. I don't

1390
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,319
need someone to force feed.

1391
01:09:52,199 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: My lore got lower all along this bookshelf. Oh yeah,

1392
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,000
I go to the Lore Valley. Just really good stuff there. Yeah,

1393
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,760
but yeah, I Muster Trained two is great so far.

1394
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,680
Highly recommend it if anybody like the first game or

1395
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,520
like the Latro or uh, or I just really like

1396
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,279
step building games and wants to see it integrated well

1397
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:16,520
into a roadblad Right, what else, Chris, Chris, Chris, I

1398
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,760
know you said you've been You've been traveling a ton lately,

1399
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,319
so I'm sure you haven't played a ton of new,

1400
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,840
like brand new games, But just give us the quick

1401
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,920
rundown of what are some of your favorite games this

1402
01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:28,760
year that have really hit you hard?

1403
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:32,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been playing so much the thing that

1404
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,720
I guess I'll shout out now because it'll be coming

1405
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,000
out close. When does this episode drop?

1406
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: The November third Monday?

1407
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:42,279
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think it'll be like very close the

1408
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:44,760
full release of this. Q OP Do you know about

1409
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:45,239
q OP?

1410
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: No?

1411
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 1: Like q U e U e Q the letter Q You.

1412
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,159
Speaker 3: Want me to write it down in my lipliner?

1413
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: Perfect perfect silent hill fart. It is the latest game,

1414
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:03,800
uh from Frank Lance who did Universal paper Clips. Yeah,

1415
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,479
and uh, and there's a bunch of other people working

1416
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,880
on this from what I can tell, But it is

1417
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,760
a eesport all about fairness. Everything is one hundred percent

1418
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,920
completely random multiplayer eesport. That's definitely what it is. It

1419
01:11:20,039 --> 01:11:24,199
is about coin flipping. Are you heads? Are you tails?

1420
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:27,720
Which one are you gonna get? Play to the death?

1421
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: E sports. That's all.

1422
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,399
Speaker 2: That's all. There's nothing else going on. It's just esports.

1423
01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:36,039
It's just one hundred percent fair, one hundred percent random

1424
01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:39,199
flipping some cold But are there like individual heroes too?

1425
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,520
And the crazy thing about it is they are heroes,

1426
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,560
but they're all equally good because it's one hundred percent fair.

1427
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: What game? What game are? These characters reminded me of

1428
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:54,520
like Goodbye Volcano High or whatever. Those No, that was

1429
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:02,039
all like anthropomorphic creatures. This is this has like, uh,

1430
01:12:02,399 --> 01:12:06,520
what was the It's kind of what the dad day dat?

1431
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the date the dads?

1432
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: No, what was the daddy dat game? You know what

1433
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,039
I'm talking about? Mary, You must know the dad.

1434
01:12:16,119 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 3: Oh what are you talking about?

1435
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: Dream daddy, Dream daddy?

1436
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,079
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1437
01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 1: It looks like the same art style.

1438
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 4: Let me know, if you were to talk about any

1439
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:27,600
hot smutty boys, I got you anyway.

1440
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, it's it is as I'm being

1441
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,319
very starky, but it is a game that is not

1442
01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:39,039
as it seems. It is a game, Mary, you are

1443
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:42,079
going to love this game, I think because it's a

1444
01:12:42,079 --> 01:12:45,640
lot of playing this extremely fair esport that is definitely

1445
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,039
very popular amongst uh streamers, and then also getting emails

1446
01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:53,640
from the company that makes it. Uh. There's a lot

1447
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,119
of there's a lot of Chalky in this game to

1448
01:12:56,239 --> 01:12:57,640
go along with the Dewey.

1449
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 4: And looking at a lot of reading too, like not

1450
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,640
just talking like I'm reading, there's a lot of text

1451
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:05,640
on the screen, Bud.

1452
01:13:06,039 --> 01:13:09,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think it's going to be a

1453
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,439
good thing. I don't know if it's going to blow up.

1454
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,199
We'll see, but I think people who play it are

1455
01:13:13,239 --> 01:13:15,760
going to really love it. And then in terms of

1456
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,520
you know, I've been playing all this stuff the everybody's

1457
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,520
I'm playing speaking of games from people who you know,

1458
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,279
worked at n YU Baby Steps, It's great. I loved it.

1459
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,319
Speaker 3: I don't understand how you can love this game.

1460
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah for real, Yeah, neither of them really, No.

1461
01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:34,159
Speaker 1: We we we've talked about the last episodes. Get I

1462
01:13:34,319 --> 01:13:36,119
like it. It's just not tell us about it.

1463
01:13:36,119 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: You sick?

1464
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 3: Why do you like this game? I don't even like.

1465
01:13:39,319 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm taking it at my pace, so I'm not one

1466
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,079
of thos like art.

1467
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: Can't be builed down to one simple.

1468
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: That's That's why that face is literally my nightmare.

1469
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,159
Speaker 1: It's the face I do when I'm being pretentious. Is

1470
01:13:54,199 --> 01:13:56,119
it the face you do when you're being pretentious or

1471
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:02,239
you've enjoyed baby steps? If that's the right.

1472
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm playing it at my own pace, and for me,

1473
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:09,039
it just it like quite literally feels good on a

1474
01:14:09,079 --> 01:14:11,760
mechanical level, just moving around.

1475
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 3: What do you mean it feels it feels awful? You're

1476
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,840
stumbling around and you're looking at.

1477
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 2: This I have only maybe like twice what I think.

1478
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,399
It's a game that once you learn how to walk,

1479
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:30,560
it truly is a game. I think the problem is

1480
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,720
people saw this game like, oh, it's a game about difficulty.

1481
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:37,039
It is a game about like all these things, and

1482
01:14:37,079 --> 01:14:39,720
like how many horrible things can you overcome? And they're

1483
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,199
thinking about it like getting over it like the other Bennettotty. Yes,

1484
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,760
I think it is the exact opposite. If you actually

1485
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,720
just take the main path, if you just go whatever

1486
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,199
looks easiest. I think the game is quite easy. Did

1487
01:14:56,239 --> 01:15:01,439
you what I have that? I'm probably like halfway through,

1488
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,039
but I've yet to like really had a hard part

1489
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:06,279
once I learned how to walk. Learning how to walk

1490
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:08,800
was hard. It took me probably like fifteen twenty minutes.

1491
01:15:09,159 --> 01:15:11,199
And then once I did that, I just have been

1492
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,079
trot no way, just having a nice walk. I see

1493
01:15:14,119 --> 01:15:15,560
like a little thing where it's like go up to

1494
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,880
an edge and you can grab an apple, and I'm like, no,

1495
01:15:18,079 --> 01:15:20,399
thank you. I see like a little hat. Got the

1496
01:15:20,399 --> 01:15:22,239
first one. I was like, well that was hard. Saw

1497
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:24,119
the second one. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

1498
01:15:24,199 --> 01:15:27,239
I'm not falling for your tricks baby steps, no thank you, No,

1499
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,600
I keep going, I keep going. I think it wants

1500
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,880
you to realize that you can actually just take the

1501
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,880
easy path, that it is okay.

1502
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: It sounds like the episode when Jeff doing.

1503
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,319
Speaker 4: You think philosophically, what it's teaching you is to just

1504
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,319
take the easy route.

1505
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: You don't have to.

1506
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:47,199
Speaker 2: I think it is. There's a point later in the

1507
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:50,279
game and this is like spoilers, but it's now all over,

1508
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,279
like you're not going to escape this where there's a

1509
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:58,920
absolutely impossible mountain side that you can climb, and then

1510
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,399
there's also and then yeah, grub I think actually made

1511
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,800
a video of about spiral staircase. There's the green Spiral staircase,

1512
01:16:05,319 --> 01:16:07,960
and you can just take the green Spiral staircase and

1513
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,600
there's nothing different. The game call like it shames you

1514
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,439
either way. It's not trying to tell you anything about it,

1515
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:17,199
And I I think a lot of the game you

1516
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:19,520
could read it as one that it's like, oh no,

1517
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,439
it's actually, you know, embarrassing that people use guides or

1518
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,560
maps and games and like how far we've fallen from

1519
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,079
whatever a true game is. But as I get deeper

1520
01:16:28,079 --> 01:16:30,600
into the game, I think it's actually like why our

1521
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:35,960
gamer's so weirdly prideful of something so stupid, like go

1522
01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:39,079
take take this option, it's right in front of you.

1523
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:43,119
Then turn off the game and go meet like humans

1524
01:16:43,319 --> 01:16:43,920
in Yorks.

1525
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:47,319
Speaker 4: I cannot believe that you have found such deep meaning

1526
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,600
in such a stupid, stupid.

1527
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 3: Ugly game.

1528
01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:53,319
Speaker 2: Do you know about like the little mini games that

1529
01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:57,279
you can unlock, No, they're like many scenes. Okay, so

1530
01:16:57,399 --> 01:16:59,239
this is the wild chain, and it's why it would

1531
01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:01,680
motivate you to do the other things. If you get

1532
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,000
a hat or whatever and you care like you wear

1533
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:10,399
it to the campfires or whatever that check point each thing.

1534
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,920
When you get there, it will cut to atari like

1535
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,520
scene that you can move around, and they're all just

1536
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,039
about how absolutely sad and pathetic this man is. And

1537
01:17:23,079 --> 01:17:25,239
it's kind of like a oh, here's how somebody falls

1538
01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:28,920
into Mr. Bullshit. Like it's very much about like, hey,

1539
01:17:29,079 --> 01:17:35,680
don't be this, like don't learn how to talk with someone.

1540
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:38,159
Get away from the machine.

1541
01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:40,520
Speaker 3: That's so crazy, like.

1542
01:17:40,319 --> 01:17:43,319
Speaker 2: Say hello to friends, you know, receive help.

1543
01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 4: Putting so much assumption into the design of this game.

1544
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:51,520
I thought that the purpose of this game was to

1545
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:57,239
be so annoyingly bad that I was meant to go

1546
01:17:57,279 --> 01:17:58,680
outside and touch grass.

1547
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: I will also say I'm unquestionably biased, like mega biased

1548
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:09,159
on this game. Why one of the designers was one

1549
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:11,720
of my co teachers at n y U Penet Wow.

1550
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:13,840
I also think it is one of the I think

1551
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,199
he's brilliant.

1552
01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:16,359
Speaker 3: Body is brilliant.

1553
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,199
Speaker 2: Oh now we all think is really.

1554
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: It was cool.

1555
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: Designers want a game students.

1556
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:33,079
Speaker 4: One of the I made the one that you used

1557
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:34,920
to wear when you guys were.

1558
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,279
Speaker 1: Basically plant design this game because.

1559
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,399
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say is I had the

1560
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,079
smallest effect on these two people's lives. But I think

1561
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,560
that they looked at me and they said, Wow, what

1562
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,800
a sad man. I think she's just a video game

1563
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,159
about it.

1564
01:18:49,319 --> 01:18:52,159
Speaker 4: I can't believe that you're going to win a game

1565
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:54,640
award about your likeness.

1566
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: It's a great game. The only other one that I

1567
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,239
guess I will like plag because I loved it. I

1568
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,039
also I just loved talking to the creators about it

1569
01:19:03,119 --> 01:19:08,079
on post games of podcasts issues. Did y'all play Blipo?

1570
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,039
Speaker 3: No? Tell me about Blippo?

1571
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,079
Speaker 2: Wait? Really, do you not know about Blippo at all? Oh?

1572
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: Your educating? Okay.

1573
01:19:16,119 --> 01:19:23,279
Speaker 2: Blippo is a FMV games looks like Access TV from

1574
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,840
like nineteen eighty eight, and it's an entire alien TV

1575
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:31,760
like cable package. It's like multiple channels and you can

1576
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,920
flip through the channels like, oh, here's the news, or

1577
01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:40,039
here is a exercise show. There's an entire Nickelodeon ripoff

1578
01:19:40,199 --> 01:19:43,800
in it, and you just there's no goal. You just

1579
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,600
watch it and as you watch a certain amount, it

1580
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,159
unlocks new packages. Wow, you can watch more. And it

1581
01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:54,880
was made by in part by the band Yacht. The

1582
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,079
lead singer wrote.

1583
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 3: It it's on that tiny device.

1584
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,039
Speaker 2: Yeah it works on the Playdate, but you could also

1585
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:05,720
now play it on Steam and Color and all of them.

1586
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,159
A bunch of la art community like underground artists like

1587
01:20:10,399 --> 01:20:13,439
appear in it, including like high school theater kids. And

1588
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,039
then they shot it in a studio that uses actual

1589
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,960
old TV equipment from the eighties and nineties. So I

1590
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,600
respect it's it's so it is a real what do

1591
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:24,920
you do?

1592
01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1593
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: You literally just watch it. It is a game that

1594
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,199
the idea is that the planet Blip has all of

1595
01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:35,039
these TV channels and something is going on on the

1596
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:37,640
planet Blip and you will learn the story by watching

1597
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:38,159
the channel.

1598
01:20:38,119 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: Okay, cool that sounds It's like, what do you want

1599
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:45,960
to call it? It's got oh my god, San Barlow

1600
01:20:46,079 --> 01:20:49,359
vibes and immortality.

1601
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 2: Immortality That was it.

1602
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: Right, immortality in her story?

1603
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: Yes, but even less worry about a game. You can

1604
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,640
tell it was made. It was published by Panic, who

1605
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,920
did untitled Goose game but also did like Deak below tay,

1606
01:21:03,319 --> 01:21:06,560
I think Cable, the guy who runs that, he's very

1607
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,800
successful off of my app business. Truly one of the

1608
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,600
people that seems to be cool with. I don't know

1609
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:13,800
if this will ever make money.

1610
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit.

1611
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:17,359
Speaker 2: It's quite cool and that's not my problem.

1612
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: I mean I respect that a lot.

1613
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,079
Speaker 4: Can I ask you, though, like, is it uh, I'm

1614
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:23,399
just looking for tone here.

1615
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 3: Is it funny? Is it like uneasy?

1616
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: Is it like it's not it's not one of those things.

1617
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,319
It's like, oh it looks old and silly, but it's

1618
01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:38,279
actually a jump scare. No, it's it's crying. No, it's

1619
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:42,359
it's like playing nineteen eighties local TV. That's it really

1620
01:21:42,359 --> 01:21:43,079
commits to the bit.

1621
01:21:43,319 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing creepy about that.

1622
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love FMV games and I have

1623
01:21:48,359 --> 01:21:50,479
to say, like, this really scratches an itch for me.

1624
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,279
But I'm just curious if this is like a you

1625
01:21:52,319 --> 01:21:55,239
gotta play this during Spooptober, or if it's like not

1626
01:21:55,319 --> 01:21:56,359
really like this is.

1627
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: No, I would say this is a good like you

1628
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,039
know that slow period at the beginning of December, where're

1629
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:04,600
like I thought I would have more to play right

1630
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,239
now and then you don't. Oh yeah, that's it's going

1631
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:09,079
to be the good stuff.

1632
01:22:09,119 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 4: I love f MV games so much and I really

1633
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,279
have to say this, like, is this is so appealing

1634
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:15,600
to me.

1635
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,119
Speaker 2: They're starting to translate a lot of the games from China,

1636
01:22:19,319 --> 01:22:21,680
the fm B games that they've been making over there,

1637
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,239
and I am living.

1638
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 4: For that is music to my ears. I can't wait

1639
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,520
to watch that crazy ship.

1640
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure on some of these historic romantic dramas and.

1641
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:39,319
Speaker 4: Me China romantic dramas.

1642
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one second, I'm gonna find one and I'm sorry,

1643
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:50,520
what thank you? Yes? Road to Empress? Uh oh yeah,

1644
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:52,159
games are back.

1645
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 3: Games are back, baby.

1646
01:22:55,359 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 4: I just think it's fun to watch h what they

1647
01:23:00,039 --> 01:23:03,319
what they do with the power of FMV, Like, it's

1648
01:23:03,359 --> 01:23:09,279
so wild to me that we we can play with

1649
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,399
the realities like this, and I don't know, I get

1650
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,760
really immersed in the scrap.

1651
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 3: I love it.

1652
01:23:16,319 --> 01:23:18,359
Speaker 2: Mary, Can I read you this not says for Road

1653
01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:18,880
to Empress?

1654
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:19,159
Speaker 1: Yes?

1655
01:23:19,159 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: Please, You've never played a game like this before. Road

1656
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:26,279
to Empress is a cinematic palace adventure where your choices

1657
01:23:26,359 --> 01:23:32,159
decide everyone's fate. Tackle one hundred plus story branches in

1658
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:36,960
a high mortality rate with charm, wisdom, and courage. Question

1659
01:23:37,039 --> 01:23:42,439
mark first survive. Wow ye that.

1660
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: The rest of the game is translated as beautifully as

1661
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,359
this description.

1662
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:52,399
Speaker 2: It's there's it's so good. Wow, I cannot wait for

1663
01:23:52,399 --> 01:23:54,640
you to play it. And also the stories are like, legit,

1664
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,840
this is my my shitty reading of this for you.

1665
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,560
It is genuinely interesting game. It is a very positive

1666
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,720
on Steam, so I'm not the only person here. Somebody

1667
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,640
one of the top Steam reviews is never mind. I'm

1668
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:12,520
actually not gonna read.

1669
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:24,319
Speaker 1: Have you guys played Detroit Become Human? More like this section,

1670
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:27,119
which is probably not a good thing for this game.

1671
01:24:27,399 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is uh, this is great. Thank

1672
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,920
you you've like this. Better not unleash anything within me.

1673
01:24:35,319 --> 01:24:36,800
This is so nice.

1674
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: Cool Mary, you also played Keeper?

1675
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1676
01:24:43,039 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: Has anyone else played this new Uh? I think it's fine.

1677
01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: No, not yet.

1678
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,520
Speaker 4: I'm also biased because I just like double fines, so

1679
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,359
just throw that one out there. But anyway, Keeper is

1680
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,600
it's so cute, you guys. You are a lighthouse atsh

1681
01:25:05,079 --> 01:25:10,159
Atmospheric is shit really knows its audience you are. It's

1682
01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:13,840
such an imaginative little world filled with I would say, it's.

1683
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,279
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to look this up. I should have

1684
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:17,560
looked this up before we did this.

1685
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 4: But the audio sounds like macnarium, you guys, and it's

1686
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:27,279
like half natural environments with like greenery and you know,

1687
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,520
jungle or you know. But then like the animals that

1688
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,520
you're coming across are mechanical. They look like they're made

1689
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,560
out of gears and parts, and you yourself are an

1690
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:43,560
actual walking lighthouse. It's very Holl's moving castle. You have

1691
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:48,359
these like tentacle leggies, and your wobbly almost like you're

1692
01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:50,560
made out of four pieces that are stacked, and you

1693
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,680
have this kind of like wibbly wobbly movement to you.

1694
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 3: Oh, it's great. It's very simple.

1695
01:25:56,319 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 4: You walk and you move your light and you can

1696
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:00,319
focus your light.

1697
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: That's it.

1698
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 4: It's it's very simple mechanically, and the puzzles also kind

1699
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,319
of reflect that simple nature of it.

1700
01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:07,520
Speaker 3: This is not a hard game.

1701
01:26:08,359 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 4: I think younger people could play this game, but I

1702
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,399
think older people could enjoy the simplicity of Hey, there's

1703
01:26:15,399 --> 01:26:18,560
some kind of like blight in this world, some kind

1704
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,439
of rot, and when you shine your light on it

1705
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,800
doesn't like that. So you're kind of like curing the

1706
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:23,239
world of.

1707
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 3: These issues or these woes. And also like maybe.

1708
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,039
Speaker 4: There's you know, a door that can open, so you

1709
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:32,840
need to shine your light to open the door. But

1710
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,920
when you stop shining your light, the door closes, okay,

1711
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:35,880
and how do you solve this?

1712
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,159
Speaker 3: You end up getting a bird.

1713
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: The bird.

1714
01:26:38,079 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 4: The bird is so cute and it also kind of

1715
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,399
it stays on your lighthouse like a hat, which I love,

1716
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,760
and you can send him out to help you solve puzzles.

1717
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 3: He's got weight.

1718
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 4: To him, right, so maybe like maybe there's like a

1719
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,640
weight puzzle where you need your bird on there, but

1720
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,880
you also need to be able to get him back

1721
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,680
on times so you can get through these doors and

1722
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,920
get to the next area. I think it's designed very

1723
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,840
very simply, but very well where it won't let you

1724
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:03,479
move forward.

1725
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: You can't break it.

1726
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 4: You just got to like solve these simplistic puzzles. But

1727
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:11,079
I find it so cathartic to play a game like

1728
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:12,680
this where it's just like I know what you're trying

1729
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,680
to get me to do, and I can solve this

1730
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,079
in like thirty seconds or less, and I do, and

1731
01:27:17,119 --> 01:27:20,560
I feel really smart about it. The puzzles do get smarter.

1732
01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:24,000
I think they get a little stronger. About halfway through

1733
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,880
the game. There's a town that you get to where

1734
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,800
you will find I love this. You will find a

1735
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,920
button that you push everything you basically push with your

1736
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,680
light and when you do it, your bird turns into

1737
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,680
an egg. So it's going backwards in time, and so

1738
01:27:42,119 --> 01:27:46,560
you have to like push time forwards and backwards and.

1739
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: Use your bird as a bird or your bird as

1740
01:27:49,039 --> 01:27:50,560
an egg to get through these puzzles.

1741
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,239
Speaker 4: And I remember being like, that's fucking smart, and it's

1742
01:27:53,319 --> 01:27:56,079
really fun, and it's visually very appealing to turn your

1743
01:27:56,079 --> 01:28:00,319
bird into an egg. So rad it's cute, it's super cute.

1744
01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:04,560
I think it's I think it's brilliantly executed. I think

1745
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,399
they did such a good job with the just the

1746
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,840
atmosphere and the thoughtfulness of it. And again, the music

1747
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,319
is so delightful. I thought it was like the guy

1748
01:28:13,319 --> 01:28:15,520
who did Machinarium. I don't know who did the soundtrack,

1749
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,000
but it's it's got that mechanical vibe to it, you

1750
01:28:18,039 --> 01:28:19,800
know I'm talking about you know when you played Machinarium

1751
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,000
and it was like everything sounded like the mechanics of

1752
01:28:23,039 --> 01:28:25,199
a tool chest. And that's what this sounds like too.

1753
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:29,960
It sounds like a toolbox, but it also is whimsical

1754
01:28:30,039 --> 01:28:33,640
and lighthearted. You also change forms multiple times. I will

1755
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,880
not spoil anything else, but like you're not a lighthouse

1756
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:37,800
the entire time.

1757
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 3: It allows you.

1758
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,399
Speaker 4: To like change forms, which changes your mechanics and also

1759
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,640
changes the puzzles. It mixes it up a lot. I

1760
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,319
really do think this game is an absolute delight. My

1761
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,520
one thing that I have to say that it did

1762
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,600
not care that I was unfortunate, is that doesn't play

1763
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,000
great on the steam Deck. It's chugging on my steam

1764
01:28:57,039 --> 01:28:58,600
deck and I love to play a game like this

1765
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,439
on my steam deck. But there's a couple times the

1766
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,199
game is just straight up slowed to like ten frames

1767
01:29:05,359 --> 01:29:06,479
and I had to get out.

1768
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 2: They need to release something new.

1769
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 3: I agree.

1770
01:29:11,119 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate the not like going bonkers on constant hardware

1771
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,239
and stuff, but like I Ninja guid In four was

1772
01:29:18,279 --> 01:29:20,760
another one of these. Yes, it was these things that

1773
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,399
you think should just.

1774
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,359
Speaker 4: You work fine, want it to work fine, and it

1775
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:26,000
just doesn't.

1776
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a bummer.

1777
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 3: It is a bummer.

1778
01:29:31,239 --> 01:29:33,279
Speaker 4: So what I will say is, if you're interested in

1779
01:29:33,359 --> 01:29:37,800
Keeyer Keeper, I would recommend it for console or PC,

1780
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,680
probably not Steam deck. Unfortunately, I for the record, because

1781
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,720
I've been traveling so damn much. I've played Keeper completely

1782
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,520
on my steam deck and I've gotten through it, but

1783
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:54,600
I can't say that it was always the best experience

1784
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,960
when it was chugging like that, but it's nevertheless with

1785
01:29:59,039 --> 01:30:04,600
those small with that small technical issue, I absolutely fully

1786
01:30:05,279 --> 01:30:08,119
recommend this atmospheric puzzler.

1787
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

1788
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,039
Speaker 4: It's it's just so sweet, you guys, And like every

1789
01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:14,399
time I'm done playing it, all these like there's these

1790
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,520
tiny little animals that are constantly in the world, and

1791
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,399
anytime you solve an area or you solve a puzzle,

1792
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,720
they're kind of just like yeah, and they give you

1793
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,640
these little cheers and stuff like that, and it just gives

1794
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,279
you that that like good feeling in your core of

1795
01:30:26,399 --> 01:30:29,760
like I helped I've helped this little town and I

1796
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,000
am so smart and I and you're just a little lighthouse,

1797
01:30:33,039 --> 01:30:35,039
you guys. I don't know how else you can get

1798
01:30:35,039 --> 01:30:37,199
more whimsical than that. Double Find always does stuff like

1799
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:38,760
this where they put you in a universe where you're like,

1800
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,680
this is so adorable, this is so sweet, it's so pure,

1801
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,039
it's it's so lovely.

1802
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 3: There's nothing.

1803
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,199
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any talking in this entire there's

1804
01:30:47,359 --> 01:30:50,399
not a word in this game. There's no humans. It's

1805
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:53,800
like just it's it's all done through visual design. Every

1806
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,239
once in a while has to put up a tiny

1807
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:57,880
piece of UI that says you can focus your light,

1808
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,159
you know, and that's just to help guide you in

1809
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:01,560
case you're like really slow.

1810
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,319
Speaker 2: I'm curious if this is the future of Xbox. I

1811
01:31:06,359 --> 01:31:09,079
feel like we've seen like seven different futures of the

1812
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:12,159
Xbox that could happen, and one of them was we're

1813
01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:15,720
gonna buy up tons and tons and tons of devs. Yeah,

1814
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,439
and then like have games come out. They're almost like movies.

1815
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,399
Like this game, it's not a whole lot to do.

1816
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,640
It's it's an experience as much as it is a game,

1817
01:31:26,079 --> 01:31:27,399
and you could have it over the course of a

1818
01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:31,239
weekend or maybe two weekends. And it makes a real

1819
01:31:31,279 --> 01:31:35,800
case for the game pass model for sure. Yeah, but

1820
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,600
I don't know. Like when I saw the Double Find

1821
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,800
when they acquire Double Fine, I was like, that's definitely

1822
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,600
the future, Like that's what they're gonna do. But now

1823
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,720
I don't know. Like I hope that this sort of

1824
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,359
stuff gets to keep getting made.

1825
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,159
Speaker 1: I agree a little worried that it won't.

1826
01:31:50,279 --> 01:31:54,119
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm hoping as well. I like I back

1827
01:31:54,199 --> 01:31:57,439
you up here. Like Laika just released their new trailer

1828
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,399
for their next game or sorry, their next movie, because

1829
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,479
they're a claymation studio. Anyone who doesn't know, likea they

1830
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,199
made like Kujo and the Two Strings, Perry Norman, Oh

1831
01:32:07,239 --> 01:32:11,119
my God, like all your favorites. It's all made Byleika Portland,

1832
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:17,680
by the way, and that's where they're from. And I think,

1833
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,479
like when I think of the whimsy of that, I

1834
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,199
think of Keeper and the things that Double Find create,

1835
01:32:23,279 --> 01:32:26,920
like they feel so handmade. They feel like an artist

1836
01:32:27,359 --> 01:32:31,000
put their heart into a game, and I love that shit.

1837
01:32:31,079 --> 01:32:33,359
That's like why I get so excited about games. When

1838
01:32:33,399 --> 01:32:35,319
you can tell someone put their heart into a piece.

1839
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:40,079
It would break my heart for them to like mess

1840
01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:43,600
with a studio like Double Fine. Keeper to me was

1841
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,479
like a promise kept of like, oh, you're allowing them

1842
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:47,000
to make this.

1843
01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:49,399
Speaker 3: I can tell they didn't push them too hard.

1844
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:53,399
Speaker 4: Or like make this too dirty or like public for public,

1845
01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:57,279
like consuming like this is an art piece and it's

1846
01:32:57,319 --> 01:33:00,880
beautiful and it's really well done, and continue to leave

1847
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,760
them alone because they're they're doing great stuff.

1848
01:33:04,279 --> 01:33:06,199
Speaker 1: I definitely want to try to keep her out for sure.

1849
01:33:06,359 --> 01:33:10,479
It's also like I loved Psycho Knots too.

1850
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,039
Speaker 4: I loved Psycho Knots too. They're killing it when they're on.

1851
01:33:13,079 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 3: They're on.

1852
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,279
Speaker 1: A lot of Double Fine stuff has not clicked with me.

1853
01:33:18,039 --> 01:33:19,960
I always wanted to like a lot of it more

1854
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,359
than I did. Grim Fandango seamed up my alley and

1855
01:33:22,399 --> 01:33:26,079
then I just couldn't get through it. Same with the

1856
01:33:26,079 --> 01:33:30,600
first Psychoots and I want to say, what was the

1857
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:31,840
Kickstarter one they did?

1858
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 4: The first Kickstar Click Adventures was kind of weird for me,

1859
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,920
and I forget the name of that one.

1860
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: I feel so bad because I all their games I

1861
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,159
want to like more than I do. They're not bad,

1862
01:33:46,399 --> 01:33:48,000
it's always want to like them more than I do.

1863
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:53,199
And my favorite Double Fine production is the documentary. It's

1864
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:55,359
I think they made like one of the best documentaries.

1865
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 1: I think it's because.

1866
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 4: Tim Schaeffer is like a gift to to humanity. I

1867
01:34:01,039 --> 01:34:03,920
just think he's like a sweet, sweet boy.

1868
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I did like Brutal Legend, actually Brutal Legend,

1869
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,079
but I like I like Psychoots two quite a bit.

1870
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:12,640
So I want to check this game out because I

1871
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,039
feel like they've been getting me lately.

1872
01:34:14,199 --> 01:34:16,399
Speaker 2: I also think this is like the right choice of

1873
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,520
just if it's gonna be about the art style just

1874
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,600
truly get out of their way. Like Costume Quest was

1875
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,840
a game where I wish that that was just walking

1876
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,720
around because every time I got into combat it was.

1877
01:34:28,319 --> 01:34:30,079
Speaker 1: I didn't even know there's combat and costume quests.

1878
01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:33,159
Speaker 2: It's it's turn based RPG but made for like six

1879
01:34:33,239 --> 01:34:37,680
year olds. Great brutal, but the art is some of

1880
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,600
my favorite art in the game and the vibe, like

1881
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,760
I wish that was the game that was playing right now. Yeah,

1882
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,520
I should see if there's a mod that removes the

1883
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,640
combat from that game, that'd be great.

1884
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,319
Speaker 4: I think I think this game is one of it's

1885
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:54,760
of one of Double Find's best. I think this is

1886
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,600
one of the best games that they've made ever. I

1887
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,760
do think it's simple, and so I just caveat that

1888
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,680
with it. If you're like I want like a really

1889
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,279
tough puzzler, I just don't think that's what this is.

1890
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:09,760
This is a whimsical treat for the eyes with some

1891
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,039
light light puzzles, light puzzles that.

1892
01:35:13,039 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 3: You get to enjoy.

1893
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 4: I have not been stumped once, but I have enjoyed

1894
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,600
my experience with it nicely.

1895
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: That reminds me of I mean, that's kind of got

1896
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:27,199
like Inside Vibes. The puzzles are not crazy difficult inside

1897
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:31,840
or Limbo, but it's there for the atmosphere. It's there

1898
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,279
for the actual Like Journey, I.

1899
01:35:33,159 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 4: Think Limbo pushed me a couple times where I was like,

1900
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,600
what are you trying to get me to do here?

1901
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 1: And also get somewhat challenging inside Inside, the puzzles are more.

1902
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,319
There's the one where you had to act like those

1903
01:35:46,399 --> 01:35:48,239
robots being built, which I liked quite a bit. It

1904
01:35:48,279 --> 01:35:49,239
was more like play acting.

1905
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think this one's easier, but I still

1906
01:35:53,119 --> 01:35:54,199
think it's it's great.

1907
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I think you and I have both played more Hades

1908
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,880
two yes Es Journey going.

1909
01:36:01,079 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 4: I wish I could say to you that I have

1910
01:36:04,079 --> 01:36:05,800
beat this game, but I have put a lot more

1911
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,640
hours into the game, and I still haven't beaten Hades too.

1912
01:36:09,039 --> 01:36:12,359
Speaker 1: And okay, like, wait, so you haven't beaten like have

1913
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:13,600
you gone to the surface yet?

1914
01:36:14,319 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I haven't gotten the I haven't beaten the main.

1915
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,079
Speaker 1: Boss Kronos or is there someone past Cronos.

1916
01:36:20,119 --> 01:36:23,399
Speaker 4: I don't know because I haven't beaten Gotch.

1917
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I was asking, okay, gotcha, Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I'm

1918
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,880
still I'm on my like really early on, I think

1919
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,319
twelfth run or something. Oh okay, liking it quite a bit. Still,

1920
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:41,239
I'm playing it like, yeah, it's great, it's funny. We

1921
01:36:41,279 --> 01:36:44,520
talked about this last episode. But I feel as if

1922
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:48,279
every time I go back to the game, or at

1923
01:36:48,359 --> 01:36:50,359
least the four different times I played it, I have

1924
01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:53,359
a new favorite weapon, which I think is probably a

1925
01:36:53,359 --> 01:36:57,000
good sign that they design all the weapons very well. Yeah,

1926
01:36:57,159 --> 01:37:00,079
like they're just just today I was playing before I

1927
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:01,640
was like, oh shit, I should play Monster Train two

1928
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,880
to talk about it. I was using the Witch's Staff,

1929
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,239
the original weapon, the default weapon at the beginning of

1930
01:37:07,239 --> 01:37:08,640
the game. It was like, oh, this is actually pretty

1931
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:13,239
rad too. It's sort of got Spear vibes. But it again,

1932
01:37:13,319 --> 01:37:16,359
the way that they design her cast and her the

1933
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,399
specials for each weapon, I think again makes her feel

1934
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,800
very different from zagrias in the first game. But I

1935
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:26,640
think I swear by the umbral torches still. I know,

1936
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,840
like a lot of people say they those didn't click

1937
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,680
with them until a certain point, those right away, for

1938
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,840
some reason, just felt great for me. I talk about

1939
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:38,239
Haites two plant I have you played much Hates.

1940
01:37:38,079 --> 01:37:42,319
Speaker 2: Two Kimirial with you cayuse this place to talk about

1941
01:37:42,359 --> 01:37:43,039
my feelings.

1942
01:37:43,399 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: You don't like Hades or Hates two.

1943
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,560
Speaker 2: It's not even that this game. I love every person

1944
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,720
who listens to the best us into post games. I

1945
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:53,560
want to be super clear. I love you, and if

1946
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,760
you're this person, I love you. So many people have

1947
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,840
been so worried about this game now being covered. It's

1948
01:38:00,199 --> 01:38:03,600
getting enough attention, and I just want to assure you

1949
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:08,039
people who made this game are they're literally Scrooge mcdoc.

1950
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:12,520
They're streaming in a pool of dollars. They are a okay,

1951
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,640
a billion people are playing this game. If you want

1952
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,119
to know why critics aren't talking about it is because

1953
01:38:18,119 --> 01:38:21,199
it's more Haites and like and they change it up

1954
01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:24,079
a little bit. And personally, for me, I think like

1955
01:38:24,199 --> 01:38:27,359
Haities ten out of ten, this nine out of ten.

1956
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,239
Do you know, it's really hard and not super interesting

1957
01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:32,479
always to talk about when a game goes from a

1958
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:36,199
ten to a nine, because it's like, yeah, okay, Like

1959
01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:38,800
it's slightly different in the ways it's different are kind

1960
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,199
of personal taste based, and the story is not quite

1961
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:43,640
as good, but it's still better than most stories, like

1962
01:38:44,279 --> 01:38:47,399
it ends up being. For me, it's like a weird

1963
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,880
game to talk about. So I've played a fair bit.

1964
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,399
I enjoy my time doing it, but I find it, like,

1965
01:38:54,119 --> 01:38:58,039
I find it really challenging to talk about because it

1966
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,279
when a game. I guess that's say that thing winning

1967
01:39:00,279 --> 01:39:03,640
you're going from attend to nine. I don't want to

1968
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:05,880
just be dunky on this game, because I like this

1969
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,920
game a lot. But the only things I really have

1970
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,840
to say are like, well, it's not as interesting or

1971
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:16,000
good as the previous one, and that's like not, that's

1972
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:18,039
not fine, it's crazy.

1973
01:39:18,199 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that. I don't think it's doing anything

1974
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,279
crazy to change the formula, and I'm fine with more hades.

1975
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,640
I'm hiking it quite a bit, yeah, which is which

1976
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:26,720
is but I hear.

1977
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,319
Speaker 4: What you're saying too, which is like I will just say, like,

1978
01:39:30,039 --> 01:39:32,880
largely as critics or just as you know, people who

1979
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,760
play a shit ton of games, our job is to

1980
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,680
talk about something that's like moving the medium forward or

1981
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,680
is like really shocking us with like something that that's different.

1982
01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:46,199
And Super Giant has done that its entire life, right,

1983
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:49,920
Everything that it's done is so wild, Like Transistor was

1984
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,840
like groundbreaking, and Pire was like a wild thing that

1985
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,600
we all talked about for a really long time, even

1986
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,680
though it didn't like grab Us, I.

1987
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say you underappreciated.

1988
01:40:00,119 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 4: Underappreciated for like how much it made you appreciate those

1989
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,560
characters and what it did with the story and how

1990
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,279
it made people feel. Hades was like everyone's like, oh

1991
01:40:07,319 --> 01:40:10,960
my god, everybody's hot. Like it's so unbelievably good to play.

1992
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 3: It's so smooth.

1993
01:40:12,079 --> 01:40:14,039
Speaker 4: It was our it was our goady like years ago,

1994
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:15,840
and Hades too.

1995
01:40:17,159 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Is good.

1996
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's Hades, And so it's a bit of

1997
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,600
a change up for me to be like, well, I

1998
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,199
mean you you've you've made this game, You've already perfected

1999
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:28,279
it in so many ways.

2000
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 2: It's like the kid where they've been like for four months,

2001
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,920
have been getting a's in class. Yeah, and then they

2002
01:40:36,079 --> 01:40:38,640
like get like an A and people are like, hey,

2003
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,359
like what do you have to say? And then you're

2004
01:40:40,399 --> 01:40:43,039
just like, I don't know, you're doing great, like chill out,

2005
01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:45,600
like don't worry about it. You're like, I'm not going

2006
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,960
to tell you're bad. You want me to tell you're good, Like.

2007
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: You're still going to Princeton Like we don't.

2008
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's it's all great. I will I cannot

2009
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:58,880
wait to talk about whatever the studio does next. But yeah,

2010
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,600
it also just has misun very honestly as a hole

2011
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,159
metic conversation. I'm sorry.

2012
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,399
Speaker 1: This is the review that's actually about writing reviews, not

2013
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:07,840
the game.

2014
01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just so many games. There's so many games.

2015
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even in twenty twenty, the first game was

2016
01:41:16,319 --> 01:41:19,359
way easier to spend like a fucking week just playing

2017
01:41:19,399 --> 01:41:21,119
through until your eyes bled.

2018
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Now, not even just playing through, I mean even just

2019
01:41:23,319 --> 01:41:26,399
talking about like there's only so much time, and it's like, yeah,

2020
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,119
do I again? Is this where I want to use

2021
01:41:29,279 --> 01:41:29,920
my words?

2022
01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:32,079
Speaker 1: Well, so I'm glad you came on because blipp oh,

2023
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:34,079
I don't think Dan Mary Ray would have brought up

2024
01:41:34,199 --> 01:41:36,520
it's q up. We wouldn't have brought up. So there

2025
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,119
are some people out there who hear about these and

2026
01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:39,359
then yard like, so.

2027
01:41:39,239 --> 01:41:41,079
Speaker 2: Many games I could tell you about. We could be

2028
01:41:41,079 --> 01:41:43,880
talking about Demon Schools coming out, y'all get me playing Demon.

2029
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 1: School, Elevator Pitch Each.

2030
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 2: What if I told you it's like tactics, turn based persona.

2031
01:41:53,039 --> 01:41:54,640
You like those words, those good words?

2032
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,239
Speaker 1: Are you doing that? Because you know I do like

2033
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:56,840
those words?

2034
01:41:57,199 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also that's literally what the game is can

2035
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,399
you really not seeing any of this game?

2036
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,039
Speaker 1: No? Wait, this is great, just as the themes to

2037
01:42:05,239 --> 01:42:13,800
plant bringing up a game and then surprise of this. Uh, Chris,

2038
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,800
plant one breath. There are way too many games to

2039
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,199
talk about planting the next breath? How have you not

2040
01:42:18,279 --> 01:42:24,560
heard of this game? I can call you out and

2041
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,000
say you're being hypocritical. I'll look at your games. Don't

2042
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,800
give me shipped for it. Okay, let me look at

2043
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,560
the U r L. I dropped it chat fucking serial

2044
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,800
killer using the zoom chat. Yeah, it's right.

2045
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Where I also put b RV need to use potty

2046
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,159
power women school people. That's gone.

2047
01:42:42,319 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this looks red.

2048
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 3: This is like a mic coded game.

2049
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,239
Speaker 2: Tactics RPG persona. That's what it looks like. I could

2050
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:55,640
tell you about games all day games, games on games educa.

2051
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,560
Speaker 1: That's a cool art style. It's weird. The environments look

2052
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:09,600
like uh isometric Obsidian vibes like Path of the Oh God,

2053
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,000
what am I thinking of? What is the pirate game

2054
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,920
that Obsidian made? It'll come to me. It looks like

2055
01:43:16,319 --> 01:43:18,880
it looks like Tides of Torment Newman era kind of vibes.

2056
01:43:19,279 --> 01:43:23,199
The environments, but then the characters look different. Yeah, yeah, gorgeous.

2057
01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one more.

2058
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:25,520
I'm gonna give you one more.

2059
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:30,239
Speaker 1: You play, thank you dead Fire. Okay, sorry, continue.

2060
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Trying Trine's Legacy. You playing Shrine's Legacy. I love trying

2061
01:43:36,079 --> 01:43:41,479
Shrine Shrines Legacy, A legacy of Shrines. It's like a

2062
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:46,199
sixteen bit action RPG in the style of S and

2063
01:43:46,199 --> 01:43:48,520
E S, but unlike all these other ones are like, yeah,

2064
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,000
it's like in the style of SNS, but it's just

2065
01:43:50,039 --> 01:43:53,199
a modern game. It's like if you actually just had

2066
01:43:53,319 --> 01:43:56,760
a brand new Super Nintendo RPG that you like, somehow

2067
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:01,600
totally missed. Ah the I'm just here to just shout games.

2068
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:06,039
I'm just here to give games to people. Seventy eight

2069
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:10,319
reviews on Steam. This is the like bizarro world that

2070
01:44:10,359 --> 01:44:10,840
we live in.

2071
01:44:11,039 --> 01:44:11,399
Speaker 3: Stop.

2072
01:44:14,399 --> 01:44:17,319
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I know you should listen. If

2073
01:44:17,319 --> 01:44:19,479
you're listening to us, you already bought Hades too. It's

2074
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,720
more just like what a bummer for the people who

2075
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,680
make these games. A great for us, But this game

2076
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,560
comes out kick it's it's great, it's a delight, and

2077
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,359
five years ago this would have been all we were

2078
01:44:32,359 --> 01:44:35,119
talking about. Seventy eight reviews on Steam brutal.

2079
01:44:35,399 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: It looks great. All these look great. I but I'm

2080
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,640
not going to have the time in December to play

2081
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,880
these because I've got to catch up on the other

2082
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,640
game came out, and then.

2083
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: I've got to play those because baby steps like next.

2084
01:44:49,079 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: No, I'm not to your credit. You you got me

2085
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,640
closer to considering it than anybody else has interesting. Dan

2086
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:05,720
didn't like it, that's good. I think Outer World's two

2087
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,439
might be the next one I play, because it seems

2088
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:12,359
digestible in the same way that Claire Obscure lengthwise was

2089
01:45:12,399 --> 01:45:17,039
pretty digestible, not that Claibscure wasn't sweeping in its own way.

2090
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:20,920
Can I say something really? Uh? I think it's It's

2091
01:45:21,079 --> 01:45:22,800
one of the most mic things I've said in a while.

2092
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2093
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: One of my favorite wines I've had recently was a

2094
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:30,199
Champagne and the couvet was called Claire Obscure from Salima

2095
01:45:30,199 --> 01:45:33,880
and Alan Cardai. In Champagne. It's fucking delicious if you

2096
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:34,359
find it.

2097
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:37,199
Speaker 2: Do you think the game is named after that?

2098
01:45:38,199 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 3: No, I wish after a wine.

2099
01:45:40,039 --> 01:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh so I will say that seeing it on the

2100
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,560
Champagne I made me google it I didn't realize it's

2101
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,560
just the French term for kiarascuro, which I'm sure you

2102
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,199
know plant because that's a plant thing to know.

2103
01:45:52,039 --> 01:45:54,119
Speaker 2: No, it just means me I should know more of

2104
01:45:54,159 --> 01:45:56,000
my French, but I don't remember. I can say like

2105
01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:00,760
malta to jadu malto too, like that that sort of stuff.

2106
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, apologies to Italian listeners if we have any.

2107
01:46:03,239 --> 01:46:04,880
I just said, Chiara Scorer. I think.

2108
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 2: I thought you were dunking on my fringe accent.

2109
01:46:11,239 --> 01:46:13,520
Speaker 1: No, maybe I did say kiosky. I don't know, but yeah,

2110
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,279
it just means light dark and uh, you know the

2111
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,239
like the Selima and Alan Cardoi are some of my

2112
01:46:19,239 --> 01:46:21,319
favorite producers, Champagne and so I saw that, I was like,

2113
01:46:21,319 --> 01:46:22,960
I'm going to buy this and drink it and it

2114
01:46:23,039 --> 01:46:24,880
was delicious. I loved it.

2115
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 2: In that game that was that was something.

2116
01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 1: Remember what the end of that game? Oh yeah, wait quick?

2117
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,600
Uh you're I really want to hear your opinion of

2118
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,760
Claire Obscurer in three sentences, No, in one sentence, What

2119
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,880
did you think of Claire Obscure Expedition thirty three?

2120
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Read a book?

2121
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you like the game before the ending?

2122
01:46:49,199 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 2: It's not my type of game on top of it

2123
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,000
to begin with. Right, Yeah, I mean I I but

2124
01:46:55,399 --> 01:46:57,920
yet I love like a Dragon, I love Persona. I

2125
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,760
can love it. Yeah, and there was a lot that

2126
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:05,279
abound interesting about it. But uh yeah, it's not a

2127
01:47:05,319 --> 01:47:07,920
fan of when people are like, no, just trust me.

2128
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,720
I know the fights are just so repetitive. But you

2129
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,079
Seena skipped to the end. I was. I wised up

2130
01:47:13,079 --> 01:47:18,000
to that. I said, YouTube, baby, I can skip to

2131
01:47:18,079 --> 01:47:21,039
that part, and let me tell you I was glad

2132
01:47:21,039 --> 01:47:22,560
that I did. Wow.

2133
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a pattern with you, Chris, Like.

2134
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 2: You have good taste.

2135
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 4: You are recognizing when a game hits like this peak

2136
01:47:31,279 --> 01:47:34,159
pop culture part where you're just like, I don't.

2137
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 3: Know about that.

2138
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 4: Have you played this fucking weird ass FMV game that

2139
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,359
no one's talking about.

2140
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,279
Speaker 2: I can talk Hey, okay, okay, okay, ready about a

2141
01:47:45,279 --> 01:47:47,079
great game. I'm gonna tell you about a great game.

2142
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:48,479
It's called Sonic Racing.

2143
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:52,079
Speaker 1: Crist Yeah, baby, that's what we need. I can do

2144
01:47:52,159 --> 01:47:52,640
this all day.

2145
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 2: I can talk about good plan.

2146
01:47:55,239 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Tactics. Plant can get down the slop with us, watch him.

2147
01:47:58,319 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying that I don't a story. Tell

2148
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,760
me about the second story is about art is the

2149
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,960
second I'm like, peace, yea, have.

2150
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,039
Speaker 1: You guys played Near Automata? It's about storytelling, and then

2151
01:48:12,079 --> 01:48:15,760
the more you play it the more because I love

2152
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,800
you that you're not my bossing marg and just lay

2153
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,279
into you. It's funny.

2154
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very different than the time when I was.

2155
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm I I was a sucker for Clare obscure.

2156
01:48:27,319 --> 01:48:29,319
But I also like, I don't disagree with you.

2157
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 2: More of a Stellar Blade, man, I know, I get yeah,

2158
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,439
hell yeah, I'm more of a Tales of a Rise.

2159
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: If you're not talking about the perils of slavery right

2160
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,479
off the bat in your RPG, I'm not fucking interested.

2161
01:48:43,239 --> 01:48:47,000
Is what a weird year? Though, I got plenty of games.

2162
01:48:47,039 --> 01:48:50,159
I'm gonna play Out of Worlds too, Outer Worlds two,

2163
01:48:51,359 --> 01:48:54,560
and then after that, what am I going to play?

2164
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,399
After that? I can kind of I got I gotta

2165
01:48:58,399 --> 01:49:00,920
switch to on the Way officially nice. I'm think I'm

2166
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,680
gonna play Bonanza. I'm gonna try out Mario Kart, and

2167
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:09,079
then Metroid Prime four and oh the only game, well,

2168
01:49:09,079 --> 01:49:11,119
I guess Metrod Prime four. I'm very curious about I

2169
01:49:11,159 --> 01:49:15,880
love that trilogy. Now it's not a trilogy anymore. I'm

2170
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:20,159
looking forward to Octopath Traveler zero. Yeah, I'm curious.

2171
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,319
Speaker 2: That's it's a port of a mobile game, is that right?

2172
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:27,399
Speaker 1: No, So they did a whatever the previous one was called.

2173
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:32,960
They made a mobile game. This is a prequel to

2174
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,680
the entire series, but they're pulling design tenants from the

2175
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,640
mobile game. So, but it's this is not the port

2176
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,199
of the mobile game. Okay, so this is its own game,

2177
01:49:41,279 --> 01:49:44,279
but they're you instead of having the eight characters, you

2178
01:49:44,359 --> 01:49:47,680
create your own and then you're recruiting something like thirty

2179
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:51,439
in the vein of sweak it in. But it's it's

2180
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,760
definitely oh you know what, it reminds me of Fire Emblem? Uh?

2181
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,520
What the hell? Fire Emblem? What was the most recent

2182
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,000
one called that I liked but most people didn't. It's

2183
01:50:03,039 --> 01:50:07,039
like looks like Pepsi, the most recent Fire Emblem like pulled,

2184
01:50:07,199 --> 01:50:13,039
like had like mobile game mechanics in it and mobile Pepsy.

2185
01:50:13,199 --> 01:50:17,720
We all remember that's it? Yeah, and that reminds me

2186
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,680
what they're doing with Octapath Traveler zero. So I am

2187
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:24,680
cautiously curious about that game because a lot of it

2188
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,560
sounds like stuff I really like. I like, I love

2189
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,880
sweaking in. I like having that larger recruitment pool of characters.

2190
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:34,760
So yeah, I'm curious about that.

2191
01:50:35,399 --> 01:50:36,399
Speaker 2: Can you give you another game?

2192
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:37,159
Speaker 1: Yes?

2193
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:39,079
Speaker 2: Did you all play Kaisen?

2194
01:50:40,199 --> 01:50:43,319
Speaker 1: No? But I know I actually know what this is,

2195
01:50:43,359 --> 01:50:44,279
but I did not play it.

2196
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the good stuff. It's the good stuff. It's

2197
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,479
a it's a puzzle game where you're designing the machines

2198
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,520
that make stuff in automated factories like.

2199
01:50:55,479 --> 01:51:00,239
Speaker 3: What like jiu jitsu Kaisen? It's an anime?

2200
01:51:01,399 --> 01:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, I see Kais? Then no, I see what

2201
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,119
you're doing. I was like, I don't remember a factory,

2202
01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:12,399
and I thought that was just an action anime where

2203
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,319
they got stronger, and then you know, showed it stronger.

2204
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:24,800
You know, I I see it's Kais. You're not wrong, No,

2205
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,079
you just you just make stuff. So it'll be like, oh,

2206
01:51:27,159 --> 01:51:29,640
do you want to make radios? And then you design

2207
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,199
the machines that make the radios. But then between that,

2208
01:51:32,399 --> 01:51:35,079
there's a story where you're in a nineteen eighties factory

2209
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,319
and you are a guy Jean who has moved to

2210
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,359
Japan and your family's like, hey, how is it out there?

2211
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,479
And the answer is rough because people don't really want

2212
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,880
you there, and you know what, they also don't really

2213
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,199
want the women who work in your factory. Uh. It

2214
01:51:52,399 --> 01:51:55,319
is a story about what it's like to be in

2215
01:51:55,520 --> 01:52:03,199
nineteen eighties Japan. Pull alongside this great puzzle. It's really good. Cool.

2216
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:04,319
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2217
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 4: I wait, you're saying it's like a puzzle game, but

2218
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:12,119
there's like severe sexism rampant throughout the experience.

2219
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 3: But it's more I play it every day.

2220
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 1: It's just very navigating one.

2221
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 3: I live it.

2222
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:23,399
Speaker 1: It's more.

2223
01:52:25,079 --> 01:52:29,119
Speaker 2: Birds like it's slice of life. It's what I would say.

2224
01:52:29,159 --> 01:52:31,119
It's like each episode between it it's like, oh, you're

2225
01:52:31,119 --> 01:52:33,880
out for dinner, and then it's like, oh, why does

2226
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,600
she not have a higher job. It seems like she

2227
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,560
knows everything that's going on here, like piecing it together,

2228
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,880
that sort of thing. And then as it goes on,

2229
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,039
things get better. I will say that.

2230
01:52:45,399 --> 01:52:51,199
Speaker 1: Okay, well, all right, plenty of recommendations, plenty for us

2231
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:55,159
to catch up on when I got time. Do you

2232
01:52:55,199 --> 01:52:56,479
want to talk about emails?

2233
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 3: Let's talk about them? How do they get there?

2234
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,359
Speaker 1: Okay? As always, you can run into fire Escape cast

2235
01:53:03,359 --> 01:53:06,680
at gmail dot com any questions, comments, concerns, But I

2236
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:08,399
mean the questions we might read him on the air.

2237
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,199
We have a couple tonight. There were a few dance

2238
01:53:11,199 --> 01:53:13,520
specific ones that I did not do because he is

2239
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:19,119
gallivanting in New Jersey. Uh, Mary, do you want to

2240
01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:22,560
read this first one from Alex in is it? Mary?

2241
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,720
Do you know? Is it Bendigo or Bendigo Australia. Bendigo?

2242
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:27,039
Speaker 3: It's Bendigo.

2243
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 4: Oh I skinny Dodge, It's okay from Alex a Offendigo.

2244
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 3: Hello, Chicky Babes, Thank you. That's so cute.

2245
01:53:44,039 --> 01:53:48,239
Speaker 4: I recently fucked up making a cake, absolutely beefed it.

2246
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:52,079
What a goddamn mess. If I was a surgeon, that

2247
01:53:52,199 --> 01:53:53,319
baby would be dead.

2248
01:53:54,039 --> 01:53:57,239
Speaker 1: My god, we have What have we done to Alex?

2249
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 4: Still ate it though, just like that surgeon. So what

2250
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,119
low steaks thing have you fucked up recently? How many

2251
01:54:05,239 --> 01:54:09,159
shoe incidents has Mary been involved in? Cheers Alex and

2252
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:14,720
Bendigo Australia, Chris. The shoe incident I think is referring

2253
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:16,840
to when I was recently in Japan.

2254
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,079
Speaker 3: I uh thought they.

2255
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 4: Said take off your shoes before entering, and I saw

2256
01:54:22,039 --> 01:54:23,640
a bunch of sandals, and so I assumed I was

2257
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,359
supposed to put on the sandals. And then they yelled

2258
01:54:25,359 --> 01:54:27,600
at me and I had put on somebody else's sandals

2259
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:28,199
and walked.

2260
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: Inside the house.

2261
01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:32,399
Speaker 3: I do that kind of ship a lot in my life.

2262
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 1: I also knocked down a wall. She thought a wall

2263
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:40,199
was a door sliding There was a sliding door into

2264
01:54:40,199 --> 01:54:43,319
a into like an omacase in Japan, and she knocked

2265
01:54:43,319 --> 01:54:45,199
down the entire wall. MM.

2266
01:54:51,039 --> 01:54:55,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a fucking I'm a fucking idiot, and I

2267
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:58,840
do this most of my life. I think that I

2268
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:06,680
have like gotten really comfortable with embarrassing myself. I mean,

2269
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,199
I just think I I think I'm smart in so

2270
01:55:09,319 --> 01:55:14,640
many ways. I have all these talents, and I have

2271
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:20,640
this unbelievable ability, though, to just ruthlessly embarrass myself in public.

2272
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:24,159
I don't think it was that recent, but like, I

2273
01:55:24,239 --> 01:55:28,000
bowl now, and there's like this always fun joke where

2274
01:55:28,039 --> 01:55:30,760
someone's gonna bowl and they swing the ball behind them

2275
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:34,960
and you and you grab it, and that's funny because

2276
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,960
then they're like, where's my ball, and it's like I

2277
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:44,800
took it, and yeah, snap it. And I leaned in

2278
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,039
too far, so when they threw the ball back, it

2279
01:55:47,119 --> 01:55:48,039
hit me right in the.

2280
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 3: Face and it hurt pretty badly.

2281
01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:55,359
Speaker 4: I know, but it's also like my fault because I

2282
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:59,760
was the pranker, so I had to like brush it

2283
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,760
off and be like I got you, Like my face

2284
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,760
was there when you were trying to swing the ball,

2285
01:56:05,279 --> 01:56:09,079
but it actually really hurt to go to the bathroom

2286
01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:11,800
and like process my face concussion.

2287
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 2: I just read your nose broken.

2288
01:56:15,279 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 1: It was.

2289
01:56:17,279 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 2: Got you good.

2290
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,239
Speaker 3: You guys, you should have seen the look on your face.

2291
01:56:24,279 --> 01:56:28,399
Speaker 1: Idiot Mary, remind us of the name of your.

2292
01:56:28,359 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 4: Team, the pinsy low hands.

2293
01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:33,279
Speaker 1: What was the offensive one that you did not go with.

2294
01:56:33,399 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 4: Full penetration that I remember that one?

2295
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was not allowed. Yeah.

2296
01:56:40,239 --> 01:56:45,359
Speaker 2: There are times where I'm you've said a few things

2297
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:49,399
or just over the years where I will clip it

2298
01:56:49,439 --> 01:56:56,399
and Mic to file under blackmail. It's not fair. If

2299
01:56:56,399 --> 01:56:58,079
I had your just god, I would do the same

2300
01:56:58,119 --> 01:56:58,960
for you.

2301
01:56:59,359 --> 01:57:03,439
Speaker 1: Mike says, thaying, oh yeah, you got You've got plenty

2302
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,760
of you got dirt on me.

2303
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,079
Speaker 2: There's some there's some bad ones. There's some real bad ones.

2304
01:57:09,239 --> 01:57:11,319
There was definitely a time where I probably should have

2305
01:57:11,399 --> 01:57:16,279
stopped listening as somebody who asked to report things to HR,

2306
01:57:16,319 --> 01:57:18,680
but I was happy not to, you know. Oh yeah,

2307
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:20,000
it worked out in the long run.

2308
01:57:20,239 --> 01:57:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing fine.

2309
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 2: Now.

2310
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 3: You own nobody nothing.

2311
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody.

2312
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 3: You're your own HR.

2313
01:57:26,399 --> 01:57:29,199
Speaker 2: I like, except for my patrons, who I love, and

2314
01:57:29,239 --> 01:57:31,279
I'm so glad that you've chosen to be one of them.

2315
01:57:31,359 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 3: Are they HR in a way?

2316
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:34,039
Speaker 1: Are they?

2317
01:57:34,079 --> 01:57:34,239
Speaker 2: What?

2318
01:57:34,479 --> 01:57:35,439
Speaker 3: Are they your HR?

2319
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,079
Speaker 2: I mean they're everything. They can decide to not pay

2320
01:57:39,119 --> 01:57:39,680
me anymore.

2321
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,039
Speaker 1: I I don't know if this qualifies as low steaks.

2322
01:57:46,199 --> 01:57:50,319
I like, body slammed a toddler the other day on accident.

2323
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,800
What so I guess I could fuck that. I guess

2324
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,640
that counts as a fuck up. Yeah it was fine,

2325
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:58,640
it wasn't it. Actually it kind of really was not

2326
01:57:58,760 --> 01:57:59,359
my fault.

2327
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 2: It was the toddlers.

2328
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was on a run in the morning,

2329
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:05,239
and I will say, the one thing I could have

2330
01:58:05,279 --> 01:58:07,439
done better is not go for a run when like

2331
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:11,960
students at the elementary school, middle school, high school. I

2332
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,159
live in a town that the city is literally a

2333
01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:17,479
square mile, so there's one two times a day when

2334
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,279
like all the students are either coming or going from

2335
01:58:20,399 --> 01:58:22,439
to or from their school. I should not go for

2336
01:58:22,479 --> 01:58:24,520
a run when that's happening, because the streets are flooded

2337
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:28,119
with parents and kids. And whatnot. So I was running

2338
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:30,880
in the bike lane on the street to get off

2339
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:35,039
the sidewalk because again, the sidewalks are crowded, and I

2340
01:58:35,079 --> 01:58:36,359
was running in the bike lane, which is kind of

2341
01:58:36,399 --> 01:58:39,079
where pedestrians you're not technically supposed to, but it just

2342
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:42,199
it happens here because their streets are narrow, and at

2343
01:58:42,199 --> 01:58:45,920
a certain point I realized I just kind of you

2344
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,359
know how you when you're a crossing the street, you

2345
01:58:48,359 --> 01:58:50,800
can see a tele a driver does not see you

2346
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:52,399
and might hit you, so you just kind of have

2347
01:58:52,479 --> 01:58:56,039
to let them do their thing. I in order to

2348
01:58:56,079 --> 01:58:59,039
avoid that happening for a driver that was gonna was

2349
01:58:59,279 --> 01:59:03,239
looking down the one way the wrong way he was

2350
01:59:03,279 --> 01:59:04,840
about to turn, I was like, this driver doesn't see me,

2351
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,520
so I'm gonna dart into the sidewalk. So I darted

2352
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,359
between two cars from the bike lane to the sidewalk,

2353
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:13,920
and I dodged one kid. I was like, oh, right,

2354
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,159
there are kids, and I was like coming down off

2355
01:59:16,199 --> 01:59:17,920
that because I had dodged, I was like, oh, I

2356
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,319
gotta be more careful. And then so I kind of

2357
01:59:20,399 --> 01:59:23,279
let my guard down, and all of a sudden, this

2358
01:59:23,439 --> 01:59:25,880
kid runs out from their front yard in front of

2359
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:29,119
their brownstone, and I like, I hit him pretty hard.

2360
01:59:29,279 --> 01:59:31,600
I wasn't think like thankfully, I was not at my

2361
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:35,039
full like full speed, like I don't know what which

2362
01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:38,000
is like super fat. But the thing I good thing

2363
01:59:38,039 --> 01:59:39,600
I wasn't at my three and a half minute mile

2364
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:41,479
speed because that would have been that kid would be

2365
01:59:41,479 --> 01:59:48,279
fucking me. That kid would be on the pavements. Anybody

2366
01:59:48,319 --> 01:59:52,960
got to get this kid off the sidewalk. No. I

2367
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:57,399
I hit this kid and he went down thankfully into

2368
01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:00,399
the like soil around the tree, not the side sidewalk,

2369
02:00:01,199 --> 02:00:05,720
and I like immediately and the parents but like, here's

2370
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:08,520
the thing. His dad was like, oh no, he ran

2371
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,880
in the way he was he's being an idiot. I

2372
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,520
was like, a good day, okay, wells is he okay?

2373
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,000
He's like yeah, he's fine. The kids didn't even like

2374
02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:18,000
cry or anything. And I like decked him.

2375
02:00:18,079 --> 02:00:22,319
Speaker 2: Nah. I felt like they're made of something else. Yeah,

2376
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,079
they have the building us balance back.

2377
02:00:25,399 --> 02:00:28,439
Speaker 1: I live in like prime. Well, to be fair, any

2378
02:00:28,439 --> 02:00:30,199
parents should be concerned if their kid gets body slam

2379
02:00:30,239 --> 02:00:35,359
by a stranger, but like I live in prime angry

2380
02:00:35,399 --> 02:00:38,640
angry parent, freak out parent territory. So I was like, oh,

2381
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:39,800
I'm not going to hear the end of this. I'm

2382
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:41,560
gonna have to like this. They're gonna call the cops.

2383
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,800
And I was like, I'm so sorry. I was. I

2384
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,439
just I was coming off the streets so I didn't

2385
02:00:45,479 --> 02:00:47,920
get hit by a car. Basically, it's sorry, it's very crowded.

2386
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:49,439
That was totally on me. Is he okay? He's like, yeah,

2387
02:00:49,439 --> 02:00:51,000
he's fine, he's an idiot. I was like, all right,

2388
02:00:52,079 --> 02:00:53,720
and I and then I left, So I guess I

2389
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,560
fucked up. But also, uh, this kid he was he

2390
02:00:56,720 --> 02:01:02,079
ran out like onto the crowded sidewalk, like without looking. Yeah,

2391
02:01:02,119 --> 02:01:05,319
I shouldn't have been running. That was percent my fault.

2392
02:01:05,479 --> 02:01:07,359
To be clear, it was not the toddler's fault. I

2393
02:01:07,399 --> 02:01:09,359
don't want to be blaming him. I'm just getting ahead

2394
02:01:09,359 --> 02:01:11,840
of the people who think I like am blame a toddler.

2395
02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:15,119
I'm not. If anything, the dad was probably too chill

2396
02:01:15,159 --> 02:01:17,199
about what happened, but I'm not a parent. I'm not

2397
02:01:17,199 --> 02:01:19,239
about to criticize how their parent. He knows his kid

2398
02:01:19,239 --> 02:01:19,720
better than I do.

2399
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 3: He knews kid was an idiot.

2400
02:01:22,039 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 4: Immediately the kid you you hurt his child, and his

2401
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:29,600
immediate reaction was my stupid child was in your way.

2402
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 3: Good sir, enjoy your run.

2403
02:01:32,279 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I didn't even I really didn't. Didn't know

2404
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:36,560
how to process it because I just kept running. You know,

2405
02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:39,680
I had a three fifteen mile to run, you know

2406
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:42,680
what I mean. But that's actually not low stakes but

2407
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:45,600
low steaks. Yeah, I mean, to Alex's point, I fuck

2408
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,279
up in the kitchen like every night, but you know,

2409
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:51,039
you improv. That's why I don't like baking, because you

2410
02:01:51,039 --> 02:01:54,119
fuck up baking and it just doesn't work over the chemistry.

2411
02:01:54,159 --> 02:01:55,960
The science is not there. It does. It comes out

2412
02:01:56,039 --> 02:01:59,640
mush or it comes out like disgusting cooking. You can

2413
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:03,880
cover your mistakes. That's why I like cooking. Yeah.

2414
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:07,039
Speaker 2: I was making some salmon in the oven for my

2415
02:02:07,079 --> 02:02:10,239
wife and my my my in laws lived near us,

2416
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,359
but I was going out to the movie. I was like, oh,

2417
02:02:12,439 --> 02:02:14,039
I got it in the oven. I got it all set.

2418
02:02:14,319 --> 02:02:16,359
The alarm went off on my phone to let me know, hey,

2419
02:02:16,359 --> 02:02:17,960
you got to go take that out, and I was like, yeah, yeah,

2420
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:18,640
I'm gonna go do that.

2421
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 3: I know, fun to do, I know time.

2422
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I forgot and it was like ten

2423
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,800
minutes past and here's what I did. They weren't back yet,

2424
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:29,199
put it in the fridge. I was like, oh yeah,

2425
02:02:29,199 --> 02:02:31,399
you can warm it up whenever you're ready. And then

2426
02:02:31,399 --> 02:02:33,279
when they're like, oh yeah, this is like it was

2427
02:02:33,279 --> 02:02:35,079
a little bit tough, I was like, oh yeah, you

2428
02:02:35,159 --> 02:02:36,159
overhear did it?

2429
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 3: You gas lit them? You told them it was their fault.

2430
02:02:41,039 --> 02:02:44,399
Speaker 2: Damn right it did. Yeah, pretty smart.

2431
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:47,079
Speaker 1: Do you eat a lot of salmon, by the way, Yeah,

2432
02:02:47,079 --> 02:02:50,199
of course they do. Well. Sorry, I love it.

2433
02:02:51,079 --> 02:02:52,239
Speaker 2: I can't wait for this joke.

2434
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,399
Speaker 1: It's not a joke. I was gonna tell you. I

2435
02:02:54,439 --> 02:02:56,279
was going to tell you my favorite way to prepare salmon,

2436
02:02:56,319 --> 02:02:56,920
which I like.

2437
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I do want to hear it.

2438
02:02:59,319 --> 02:03:03,359
Speaker 1: Miso blaze, like marinate it all day and then just

2439
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:05,880
straight up put put the top rack of the oven

2440
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:08,319
right under the broiler, broil it for like five minutes.

2441
02:03:09,319 --> 02:03:12,039
The miso glaze gets like caramelized, and then it's just

2442
02:03:12,079 --> 02:03:14,680
fucking perfect. Unless it's a very fat piece of salmon.

2443
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:15,840
Then you have to cook it.

2444
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:17,399
Speaker 2: Do you cook it for like maybe like tin and

2445
02:03:17,399 --> 02:03:18,960
then you broil at the last fibe.

2446
02:03:19,039 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: No, it's just broiling, baby, just yeah, yeah, is it raw? No?

2447
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:27,880
I take it out, it's room temperature for a while,

2448
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,640
like an hour before him. But yeah, it's raw salmon

2449
02:03:32,279 --> 02:03:34,399
unless again, unless you have like a fat piece of salmon.

2450
02:03:34,439 --> 02:03:36,399
I mean, broiling is easy for the eye test. It's

2451
02:03:36,439 --> 02:03:38,720
like it'll split in the middle and you can tell

2452
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:39,239
when it's done.

2453
02:03:39,279 --> 02:03:41,159
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it's it's cooked all the way through.

2454
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not. I if anything, I'm kind of

2455
02:03:44,479 --> 02:03:48,000
guilty of overcooking salmon. I don't love undercooks. I mean

2456
02:03:48,119 --> 02:03:51,720
I like, I like crudo, I like or I like sushi,

2457
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:53,560
but I don't love the.

2458
02:03:54,479 --> 02:03:56,079
Speaker 2: Flaky or it needs to be a sushi.

2459
02:03:56,399 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, flaky. It gets flaky when you broil it.

2460
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,000
It goes quickly and I spent, like my oven rack

2461
02:04:01,119 --> 02:04:03,600
is right there on the flame. It's like it's like

2462
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:07,479
burger king style. But miso glaze, get some mirroring, get

2463
02:04:07,479 --> 02:04:11,000
some soy sauce, get the miso itself. I used light recently,

2464
02:04:11,239 --> 02:04:15,039
right yeah, hell yeah. And then you can add a

2465
02:04:15,039 --> 02:04:17,039
little bit like a shot of sake in there if

2466
02:04:17,079 --> 02:04:19,800
you want, give it a little bit of kick. Actually,

2467
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:21,840
it doesn't even translate to a kick obviously. When you're

2468
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:23,880
cooking it. It's more of like you get that actual

2469
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:26,159
like sweet rice flavor. It's really good.

2470
02:04:26,159 --> 02:04:27,359
Speaker 2: It sounds great, you know it is.

2471
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:28,640
Speaker 1: I'll send you the recipe.

2472
02:04:29,159 --> 02:04:34,039
Speaker 2: Problem for me, I was so into cooking until around

2473
02:04:34,079 --> 02:04:36,079
when a kid turned like two or three, and then

2474
02:04:36,119 --> 02:04:39,239
I was like, you know what, what if my salmon

2475
02:04:39,279 --> 02:04:41,239
recipe is I cook the salmon.

2476
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 1: Your kid doesn't like misoglaze salmon.

2477
02:04:44,239 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean he actually, honestly, he probably would

2478
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:50,399
love it. He actually likes flavors. But it's where I'm like,

2479
02:04:50,439 --> 02:04:52,680
what if I make basic salmon? And then it's like, oh,

2480
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:55,399
this time, I put some of those leftovers on a

2481
02:04:55,399 --> 02:04:57,880
piece of bread. This time I put some of those

2482
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:01,079
lepters on some of arugula, And next time I put

2483
02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:03,720
some talks some like some pasta with.

2484
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 1: And then you put it on gummy bears. No rules

2485
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:12,359
in the in the plant household, no rule. But no,

2486
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,479
I'll send you that recipe. You put it on a

2487
02:05:14,479 --> 02:05:16,439
bed of like bas maadi rice, and then and then

2488
02:05:16,479 --> 02:05:19,279
you take the sauce that it was marinating in and

2489
02:05:19,319 --> 02:05:20,960
you reduce that a bit, and then you kind of

2490
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,279
just drizzle it over everything, and then some chives on top,

2491
02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:27,439
maybe some bread crumbs if you're feeling spicy. Yeah, it's

2492
02:05:27,479 --> 02:05:31,560
it's the best thing ever. But yeah, I I fuck

2493
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:33,000
up in the kitchen all the time. I can't think

2494
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,039
of any of the loathed steaks things I fucked up with.

2495
02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 3: It's just like.

2496
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,720
Speaker 4: Life, stuff that's supposed to be like kind of embarrassing.

2497
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,920
I do it so much in my friend circle. Like

2498
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:43,279
I'm so notorious for.

2499
02:05:43,319 --> 02:05:46,319
Speaker 3: Like saying or doing something that it's like, you fucking idiot.

2500
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 1: Get in a fight with Jersey moms.

2501
02:05:48,199 --> 02:05:51,199
Speaker 3: That there's a catchphrase that they have and it's just

2502
02:05:52,359 --> 02:05:55,880
marry marry May And that's what they say when I

2503
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,359
say or do something stupid.

2504
02:05:58,039 --> 02:06:01,079
Speaker 1: I can hear Josh head Mary.

2505
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,399
Speaker 2: Okay, this is like a small a small, but it's

2506
02:06:05,399 --> 02:06:10,479
like make my favorite small funk up from when I.

2507
02:06:10,479 --> 02:06:13,199
I have been married for a very long time, but

2508
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:15,439
when I was in high school. I don't want to brag.

2509
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:19,600
I went on a few dates, Oh, Lothario. I know

2510
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:23,279
it was pretty cool and there.

2511
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:28,319
Speaker 1: That's that's not what I That's not the way I

2512
02:06:28,359 --> 02:06:31,920
was going. But yeah, sure, the just chive into the

2513
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:32,600
bed slut.

2514
02:06:34,279 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 3: Go on, tell us your story.

2515
02:06:36,479 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 1: Chris Plan more like Chris Plant and ass all of

2516
02:06:41,079 --> 02:06:49,319
the Kansas City that's what they said. Sorry.

2517
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:51,960
Speaker 2: I went on with this girl and I will not

2518
02:06:52,279 --> 02:06:56,439
name names because of where the story goes, but I

2519
02:06:56,439 --> 02:07:00,680
picked her up and she would always wear this like,

2520
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:04,439
uh like a ribbon around her neck, and everybody was like,

2521
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:07,159
why does she always wear this ribbon around her neck?

2522
02:07:07,199 --> 02:07:10,079
I was like, oh, man, I have to know, right,

2523
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:15,600
So anyway, we go on the state, Mary, you go okay,

2524
02:07:16,039 --> 02:07:18,840
we go on the state and then it like goes.

2525
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,359
Speaker 3: Really well book like it's just like I got.

2526
02:07:21,159 --> 02:07:24,199
Speaker 2: It and then I know and in anyway, so I

2527
02:07:24,239 --> 02:07:26,479
was like, oh my gosh, like here we are. We've

2528
02:07:26,479 --> 02:07:28,119
had a great night. We like went to the movies

2529
02:07:28,359 --> 02:07:30,279
and then we like kind of like found like uh

2530
02:07:30,359 --> 02:07:30,800
you know, like.

2531
02:07:31,079 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 3: They have these an ol cove to make out, an.

2532
02:07:33,399 --> 02:07:36,399
Speaker 2: Al cove make out spot, and I was like, oh,

2533
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:38,760
before you make out, I need to like what's up

2534
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:42,000
with the ribbons? I can't tell you. And I was like, oh,

2535
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:43,880
just like as a goof, I was like, okay, well

2536
02:07:43,880 --> 02:07:46,560
I'll just pull it. I pulled it and her head

2537
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:53,119
fell off. Not even joking, I'm not even joking.

2538
02:07:53,239 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 1: It's like a Norm McDonald bit.

2539
02:07:55,840 --> 02:08:00,359
Speaker 4: Like straight up like gingo, like no, this is worse

2540
02:08:00,399 --> 02:08:00,680
than that.

2541
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:02,760
Speaker 3: This is a that's good.

2542
02:08:03,439 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 4: This is like are you a stark story?

2543
02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:13,039
Speaker 3: You motherfucker the whole time? And I know.

2544
02:08:13,159 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 2: The weird thing is I.

2545
02:08:15,479 --> 02:08:16,560
Speaker 3: Did have sex with her.

2546
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:21,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and her regardless, I did get some.

2547
02:08:23,119 --> 02:08:32,800
Speaker 3: Do not tell my wife.

2548
02:08:28,439 --> 02:08:33,359
Speaker 4: We went all the way. That is I fucking I

2549
02:08:33,399 --> 02:08:37,039
think the reason I kept last it was I knew

2550
02:08:37,359 --> 02:08:39,199
from the moment you said ribbon.

2551
02:08:40,039 --> 02:08:40,439
Speaker 2: I knew.

2552
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:43,399
Speaker 1: I like this is the sound.

2553
02:08:44,079 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 3: I fucking knew it.

2554
02:08:46,399 --> 02:08:50,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god, George Carlin asked ship all right to

2555
02:08:50,159 --> 02:08:55,439
go Australia. All right? Last question, I'll read this one, Hello,

2556
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:59,119
escape artists. About a month ago, I got a twenty

2557
02:08:59,159 --> 02:09:01,000
pound weighted best to where when I go running. It's

2558
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,399
been a great way to get a legwork out while

2559
02:09:02,399 --> 02:09:05,560
also doing cardio. About a week ago, after using it consistently,

2560
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:08,119
my wife stopped me and said that vest is really working.

2561
02:09:08,319 --> 02:09:11,960
Your butt is looking nice. Friends, Can I tell you

2562
02:09:12,039 --> 02:09:13,960
how that sent me over the moon. In my thirty

2563
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:15,800
five years of life, no one has ever complimented my

2564
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:19,960
backside on account of it being non existent. Needless to say,

2565
02:09:20,159 --> 02:09:22,680
I will continue using this vest. So what was the

2566
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:24,880
last thing that you set out to improve upon? Through

2567
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:29,239
exercise or therapy or intellectual tasks that someone then complimented

2568
02:09:29,239 --> 02:09:32,479
you on. Not sarcastically love the show and I hope

2569
02:09:32,479 --> 02:09:37,640
you enjoy your spoopy season. Jake from Media state pard

2570
02:09:39,439 --> 02:09:43,359
media pends in parentheses. I think he was just clarifying

2571
02:09:43,399 --> 02:09:46,279
it's not Medea said Media. Maybe we mispronounced in the past.

2572
02:09:46,279 --> 02:09:50,199
We don't ever mispronounce things. The last thing you set

2573
02:09:50,199 --> 02:09:52,479
out to improve upon through exercise, therapy or electrial test,

2574
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:55,880
someone then complimented you on. God, I get so many compliments.

2575
02:09:55,880 --> 02:10:02,479
Hold on, let me, let me wreck. This is not

2576
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:06,000
the same exact thing. Mary. You were like years late

2577
02:10:06,079 --> 02:10:08,960
to a compliment. I will say that I did still

2578
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:11,479
appreciate plan. I don't know if you've heard the story.

2579
02:10:11,479 --> 02:10:13,319
I think we talked about fire Scape before the reason.

2580
02:10:13,359 --> 02:10:15,760
I know we've talked about how anger is one of

2581
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:18,359
my motivators when trying to learn a new skill. Sometimes

2582
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:22,560
Mary wants like Jake Decker and I. Jake, who produces

2583
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:26,720
fire Escape. We had a working relationship on the show

2584
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:28,880
called Reboot, which was video essays where I would write

2585
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,920
it and I guess direct it as much as you

2586
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,560
could direct something like that. Jake would do the editing,

2587
02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:37,000
so Jake would do most of it, but I would

2588
02:10:37,039 --> 02:10:40,600
write the script. So then at happy hour one night

2589
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:44,079
we were just someone was I think someone complimented like

2590
02:10:44,119 --> 02:10:47,279
an episode of Reboot, and Mary nearby me is like,

2591
02:10:48,079 --> 02:10:52,560
oh oh the show that Jake makes and Mike takes

2592
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:56,399
credit for something. So I got like furious. So that night,

2593
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,760
instead of going home after Happy Hour, I don't I

2594
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:01,720
was probably nine beers. I went back to the office

2595
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:03,079
and this was right around the corner. To be clear,

2596
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:06,520
we're at Katobrian's. I remember it because I remember the feeling,

2597
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:08,640
the rage I felt when you said that. And to

2598
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:10,800
be clear, Jake is was integral to the show. Jake

2599
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:15,479
is integral to many things. Amazing, Yeah, yeah, but it

2600
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:18,760
still pissed me off that you said that to me right.

2601
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 3: In front of all of our friends and co work.

2602
02:11:21,079 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I knew very basic. I've been video editing. But

2603
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,600
the reason I like consider myself skilled it now is

2604
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:26,960
because that night I went back and I'm like, I'm

2605
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,800
gonna go to fucking show her. So then like the

2606
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:32,520
next episode, not the next episode. Jake was still editing

2607
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:34,159
the majority of those episodes after that, but there was

2608
02:11:34,199 --> 02:11:36,199
one that I edited by myself because I think Jake

2609
02:11:36,279 --> 02:11:39,920
was on a shoot somewhere else, and I like was

2610
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,439
waiting for Mary to say, hey, I knows you edit

2611
02:11:42,479 --> 02:11:45,680
that yourself. No compliment never came. So then every single

2612
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:47,840
video I ever edited in every episode of Reboot was

2613
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:50,880
basically just me waiting for a compliment from Mary that

2614
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,840
never came. And then years later you're like, I think

2615
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:56,479
we're recording this show, like episode ten, and you're like, yeah,

2616
02:11:56,479 --> 02:11:59,560
you're a good video editor. I was like, what the fuck?

2617
02:12:02,239 --> 02:12:04,640
I don't know if that answers the question, but I

2618
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,960
set out on that intellectual, skill based task and I

2619
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:09,800
completed it.

2620
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,359
Speaker 3: The rage embarrassed publicly.

2621
02:12:14,079 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 1: I was not embarrassed, to be clear, I want to

2622
02:12:16,039 --> 02:12:17,439
I want to say it was not.

2623
02:12:18,399 --> 02:12:20,119
Speaker 2: Let me be I'm not mad.

2624
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. That's the thing. Verylf between embarrassed and angry.

2625
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:31,560
Embarrassed willing nilly with your word choice, and you don't

2626
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:33,399
really care about where.

2627
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 3: Where was your anger from? It was embarrassing the truth,

2628
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:39,439
is it?

2629
02:12:40,159 --> 02:12:45,680
Speaker 1: Yes, But I wasn't embarrassed. It was I was angry. Yes,

2630
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,520
it was from the truth. I was angry that you.

2631
02:12:50,159 --> 02:12:50,760
Speaker 3: My plant.

2632
02:12:52,600 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 2: I was embarrassed. I was just humilitiate. That's all it was.

2633
02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 1: I was just.

2634
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:07,239
Speaker 2: Really very different, angry and fat and not in.

2635
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 1: I was relieved.

2636
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:17,199
Speaker 2: I was a shame ilated, but I was not varied.

2637
02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:20,760
Speaker 1: I went back and watch some cock porn and then

2638
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:21,399
edit video.

2639
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:23,359
Speaker 3: I got back on that horse.

2640
02:13:25,039 --> 02:13:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't regret it.

2641
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 3: I did it.

2642
02:13:32,119 --> 02:13:34,359
Speaker 4: At some point I thought I really hurt your feelings,

2643
02:13:34,359 --> 02:13:36,039
and I have I do have a history of my

2644
02:13:36,079 --> 02:13:38,000
friends being like, yo, you went too far, but like

2645
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:43,520
you learned skill as a result of it. You learned

2646
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:45,680
a skill as a result of it, And I think

2647
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:46,600
that is It's not.

2648
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:50,159
Speaker 1: A skill, it's like I like I, it's a skill set.

2649
02:13:50,479 --> 02:13:54,119
Like I. It was very it's very useful and I

2650
02:13:54,239 --> 02:13:58,720
enjoy it and fun. But still, fuck you plant? Has

2651
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:01,039
anybody count by your butt?

2652
02:14:01,399 --> 02:14:03,960
Speaker 2: Oh? People are always complimenting my butt? Can? I be

2653
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:06,640
real with you. It's really embarrassing.

2654
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:16,399
Speaker 4: You were gonna start it with can because people always.

2655
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:20,439
Speaker 2: I can't remember anyone complimenting my butt, and yet I,

2656
02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:22,640
I like have never gone on Facebook, Like I do

2657
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:25,800
not use Facebook, right, And then I was like somebody's like, hey,

2658
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:28,079
you got to see what your uncle was saying on Facebook.

2659
02:14:28,159 --> 02:14:31,119
This is not about my butt and I okay, so

2660
02:14:31,159 --> 02:14:32,199
I signed, and.

2661
02:14:32,199 --> 02:14:35,560
Speaker 4: Then I see like, and the further you go with

2662
02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:37,359
this story, I'm gonna dial one again.

2663
02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:41,119
Speaker 2: I see a random friend from high school who's like

2664
02:14:41,159 --> 02:14:46,279
doing like this amazing work with like a great like

2665
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:49,279
charity in Kansas City. I was like, oh, this is great.

2666
02:14:49,319 --> 02:14:52,560
I should message them and be like, hey, I just

2667
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:54,760
saw this. I you know, I haven't seen your part,

2668
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:57,920
but really incredible what you're doing. And then I couldn't

2669
02:14:58,039 --> 02:15:01,000
do it because the last mess since was from like

2670
02:15:01,159 --> 02:15:06,199
two thousand and seven, and it was hurting like where

2671
02:15:06,239 --> 02:15:09,800
that cute butt at? And I was like, I can't

2672
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:12,680
respond to this ever. I can never message you here

2673
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,000
because the first thing that you will see is our

2674
02:15:15,039 --> 02:15:17,800
last message from almost twenty years ago, with you being

2675
02:15:17,880 --> 02:15:26,119
like where that cute butt at? Too uncomfortable. No, the

2676
02:15:26,119 --> 02:15:28,720
the question was like where you where have you grown

2677
02:15:29,039 --> 02:15:31,239
or whatever? That's basically it, right, Like where have you

2678
02:15:31,279 --> 02:15:35,079
put in time? Yeah? That's the question. Yeah? Yeah? Can

2679
02:15:35,119 --> 02:15:37,039
I tell you your motivation?

2680
02:15:37,279 --> 02:15:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2681
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:40,359
Speaker 2: Making making a post games, making a podcast where it's

2682
02:15:40,399 --> 02:15:43,319
like I'm gonna do every damn part of this. I'm

2683
02:15:43,319 --> 02:15:45,760
going to book my thing. I'm gonna produce it. I'm

2684
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:48,880
gonna write the script, I'm gonna perform it, I'm gonna interview,

2685
02:15:49,119 --> 02:15:50,920
I'm going to edit it, and I'm gonna learn how

2686
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:53,039
to do all of that right now. He was like,

2687
02:15:53,079 --> 02:15:55,199
don't actually know how to do any of it. It's

2688
02:15:55,239 --> 02:15:58,199
a really motivating thing of just like I bet I

2689
02:15:58,239 --> 02:16:01,159
could do all of it and I won't need anybody's help.

2690
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:05,119
It is all extremely humbling, and yet it does feel

2691
02:16:05,279 --> 02:16:10,640
amazing and it's so good, Like this is a thing

2692
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:13,079
that like I've been learning Japanese, I am really at

2693
02:16:13,079 --> 02:16:14,760
that point where I know I will never be even

2694
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:18,119
remotely good at it. I fully hit the like, oh

2695
02:16:18,239 --> 02:16:21,119
I'm gonna never be even close to good at this.

2696
02:16:21,920 --> 02:16:25,760
But the thing that everybody tells you to do when

2697
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:28,439
you live in this zone is like just go back

2698
02:16:28,479 --> 02:16:32,120
to whatever you were doing two years ago. And it's

2699
02:16:32,159 --> 02:16:34,200
amazing when you go back to like what you were

2700
02:16:34,239 --> 02:16:36,440
doing two years ago and you just can like crush

2701
02:16:36,479 --> 02:16:38,639
it and you're like, oh, yeah, I did get a

2702
02:16:38,680 --> 02:16:42,479
little better. This is nice. And then you like try

2703
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:50,479
to talk and like Asumi Ma San Curisy days exactly

2704
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:51,079
killing it.

2705
02:16:51,239 --> 02:16:56,600
Speaker 4: Kudasai people, I will say, like anyone anytime you're you're

2706
02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:59,639
speaking Japanese, everyone is so polite to say your Japanese

2707
02:16:59,639 --> 02:17:03,040
is real good. And that's just like a lovely thing

2708
02:17:03,079 --> 02:17:05,799
where you're like, shut up and you.

2709
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:09,319
Speaker 2: Can the love that shut the fuck up.

2710
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:15,239
Speaker 4: You never know when someone's being authentic, But I do

2711
02:17:15,319 --> 02:17:20,440
think that when someone reviews you genuinely and decides to

2712
02:17:20,479 --> 02:17:24,120
give you five stars, that it is an authentic appreciation

2713
02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:25,360
and compliment of your work.

2714
02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:27,399
Speaker 3: And to have two hundred and eighty eight of them,

2715
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:28,600
oh wow.

2716
02:17:29,440 --> 02:17:33,639
Speaker 4: I think is probably one of the nicest compliments a

2717
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:35,959
person can have with their podcast. And so I just

2718
02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:39,239
want to say, you have a perfect review score, and

2719
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:42,600
that is a genuine compliment from people who like your work.

2720
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,479
Speaker 2: My therapist is so in my head right now. They

2721
02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:49,879
just receive a nice thing, just compliment.

2722
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:52,040
Speaker 3: Except I didn't even do it.

2723
02:17:52,559 --> 02:17:57,799
Speaker 4: I'm they've I'm letting you know I wouldn't because then

2724
02:17:57,799 --> 02:18:01,440
your average, your average wouldn't be five. I'm just saying you,

2725
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:04,200
he's very obvious that there are hundreds of people that

2726
02:18:04,239 --> 02:18:06,280
have like gone out of their way, and for every review,

2727
02:18:06,319 --> 02:18:08,840
we always know there's like probably a hundred people who

2728
02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:10,760
are just like listening. So it's like wonderful to like

2729
02:18:10,920 --> 02:18:14,120
to see that type of affirmation of your work, So

2730
02:18:14,159 --> 02:18:15,319
that has to feel very good.

2731
02:18:15,559 --> 02:18:15,879
Speaker 3: It has to.

2732
02:18:16,079 --> 02:18:18,440
Speaker 2: It feels so good. And also just doing the job

2733
02:18:18,479 --> 02:18:22,840
feels good. Yeah, I'm real like it. I am so

2734
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:31,680
incredibly uh yeah, complex feelings about Pelagon and happy that

2735
02:18:31,719 --> 02:18:34,360
it still exists, happy that some people still have jobs,

2736
02:18:34,479 --> 02:18:37,840
very depressed about the many people who don't. But the

2737
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:41,399
job I have right now is like my dream job.

2738
02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:44,479
It is so good and it's so weird to have

2739
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:46,399
your dream job. I think the good thing is I

2740
02:18:46,399 --> 02:18:50,239
briefly have my dream job for like a year between

2741
02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:55,440
when I was freelancing in New York, and I know, like, oh,

2742
02:18:55,520 --> 02:18:57,959
you only get to have it for short periods. So

2743
02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:00,680
this time around, I'm like for it and I have it,

2744
02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:03,079
and I'm Mike, I don't know how long this wi last,

2745
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:05,159
but I'm going to hold on to it for dear life,

2746
02:19:05,239 --> 02:19:09,079
because it's so wild. When you have it and you

2747
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:11,719
know you have it, it's like a double whammy.

2748
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 3: I think that's beautiful and it's so good.

2749
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:19,200
Speaker 4: It probably people probably don't get to like, I don't

2750
02:19:19,239 --> 02:19:21,879
know you that well, but I think you should know, like,

2751
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:26,079
that's such a point of pride to be able to

2752
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:29,799
do what you love and and you should be so

2753
02:19:29,920 --> 02:19:33,120
proud of what you've made and what you've accomplished in

2754
02:19:33,159 --> 02:19:35,040
your career, and that's really exciting.

2755
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:37,399
Speaker 3: I'm really happy for you, Chris, thank you.

2756
02:19:37,799 --> 02:19:39,159
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's the best.

2757
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you.

2758
02:19:46,239 --> 02:19:48,399
Speaker 2: Mine's just mad because Mike was going to throw a

2759
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:51,440
smash brother's party at his wine bar and they didn't

2760
02:19:51,479 --> 02:19:53,479
come together and I didn't get to calm and he

2761
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:57,200
didn't get to see me, and he's he's sad. We're

2762
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:58,319
going to see each other very soon.

2763
02:19:59,079 --> 02:19:59,879
Speaker 3: That would be good for you.

2764
02:20:00,479 --> 02:20:01,680
Speaker 2: And the great thing is I'm going to be on

2765
02:20:01,719 --> 02:20:04,559
the show in like seventy episodes, so it's true.

2766
02:20:04,639 --> 02:20:08,600
Speaker 4: Who knows where you'll be in another seventy episodes, I

2767
02:20:08,639 --> 02:20:11,319
would like to think, because every time we've we've had

2768
02:20:11,319 --> 02:20:13,920
you on, you've gotten better and better. So the next

2769
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:16,479
time you're going to be like, you know, governor or something.

2770
02:20:16,559 --> 02:20:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's got a fall, you know, it's

2771
02:20:19,559 --> 02:20:19,879
I don't.

2772
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:22,040
Speaker 3: They can't.

2773
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 4: You can't live your life in constant excellence at some point.

2774
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:29,799
Speaker 2: It's got a But the good thing about it episodes

2775
02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:32,520
between there was a lot of hills and valleys in there.

2776
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:34,559
You just happen to be catching me on a hill.

2777
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:40,520
Good party, got to see something. He's keenly aware it

2778
02:20:40,639 --> 02:20:41,680
was not all a climb.

2779
02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh No, I'm well aware.

2780
02:20:46,799 --> 02:20:50,000
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of ups and downs in my life,

2781
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:54,879
and I've i think, like most especially uh most women,

2782
02:20:54,920 --> 02:20:58,000
I've like wrestled with whether or not like I fit

2783
02:20:58,079 --> 02:21:00,680
in and whether or not I can like this and

2784
02:21:00,719 --> 02:21:08,440
be accepted into this space. And being called a battie

2785
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:13,959
is it real? Is a peak compliment for me that

2786
02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:16,079
I will have forever.

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Speaker 3: You can't take this and like she was thirteen, she

2788
02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:20,639
could have ruined me.

2789
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:23,600
Speaker 2: Is there a better place though, to like chat, like

2790
02:21:24,200 --> 02:21:26,040
to go talk, because you know, like you can get

2791
02:21:26,079 --> 02:21:27,399
the thing where it's like, oh I talked to in

2792
02:21:27,399 --> 02:21:30,120
this prestigious college I did like convincement sweets or anything.

2793
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:34,639
But going back to your junior high high school it

2794
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:37,920
might be the best place to be able to go.

2795
02:21:38,079 --> 02:21:40,799
There's something like very I don't know that feels very

2796
02:21:40,959 --> 02:21:44,280
uh circular in a way that I am in the.

2797
02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:48,000
Speaker 4: It felt gratifying to me that I went to a

2798
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:51,559
place where I was mercilessly made fun of.

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02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:55,399
Speaker 3: I was brutally taken a down at my thirteen. I

2800
02:21:55,840 --> 02:21:57,159
had shut up like a weed.

2801
02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:02,879
Speaker 4: At thirteen, I was so tall and I had no anything.

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02:22:03,479 --> 02:22:09,520
Speaker 3: It was just a twig of I mean nothing was

2803
02:22:09,959 --> 02:22:11,000
there was nothing nice.

2804
02:22:11,159 --> 02:22:16,079
Speaker 4: I remember people called me ghosts because I was so pale.

2805
02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:17,719
Speaker 1: I was ghost gumby.

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02:22:18,079 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

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02:22:18,399 --> 02:22:20,840
Speaker 4: They I was like the house that everyone t peed

2808
02:22:21,079 --> 02:22:21,840
at Halloween.

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02:22:23,639 --> 02:22:25,840
Speaker 2: I but hey, hey, if you were in the house

2810
02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:28,639
that everyone t peed, that means like people had crush

2811
02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:29,120
it's on you.

2812
02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:32,319
Speaker 3: I usually that's what parents say those were.

2813
02:22:32,879 --> 02:22:35,520
Speaker 2: It's also true say that as a boy who te

2814
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:37,079
pet All right, Well.

2815
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:41,360
Speaker 1: My oldest brother went to egg the house of a

2816
02:22:41,360 --> 02:22:44,159
teacher who him and his friends hated, and they got

2817
02:22:44,159 --> 02:22:47,440
the They did the house next door to her house. No,

2818
02:22:49,239 --> 02:22:51,879
which is one of my favorite stories in my family.

2819
02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:55,000
Is like in the in the lore of my family.

2820
02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:56,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

2821
02:22:56,319 --> 02:22:58,440
Speaker 1: From then on, he was I like to think a

2822
02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:00,600
bit more humbled. But anyway, so sorry, that was a

2823
02:23:00,639 --> 02:23:02,440
non secretter may I'm Mary. I'm pretty sure they all

2824
02:23:02,600 --> 02:23:05,159
just thought you were Yeah, they had crushes on you.

2825
02:23:05,559 --> 02:23:07,239
They wanted attention, so they tpeed your hand.

2826
02:23:07,399 --> 02:23:12,399
Speaker 4: I'm telling you with all sincerity, I was struggling with

2827
02:23:12,799 --> 02:23:16,319
who I was and everything at thirteen, and it was.

2828
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:19,399
It was a real tough go for me during that era,

2829
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:24,159
and I felt bullied a lot and was pushed around

2830
02:23:24,159 --> 02:23:26,520
a lot. So to go back to that space and

2831
02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:30,680
be in that environment and have middle schoolers be like

2832
02:23:30,760 --> 02:23:33,520
you're cool felt like a million dollars.

2833
02:23:33,559 --> 02:23:35,040
Speaker 3: There's no price I could put on that.

2834
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to victim blame. I want to be

2835
02:23:38,079 --> 02:23:41,239
really here. I'm not trying to victim blame. Do you

2836
02:23:41,319 --> 02:23:43,799
think it might have been because you kept wearing that

2837
02:23:43,879 --> 02:23:45,719
shirt it said eat pray again.

2838
02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:53,719
Speaker 4: I will never question my stylistic choices of.

2839
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:58,399
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety eight, which I was so cool.

2840
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:03,959
Speaker 4: Everybody knew that you wanted to wear the widest of jeans,

2841
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:06,840
which are back back in action by the way, So

2842
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:08,440
who's laughing now?

2843
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Me?

2844
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 2: Not me?

2845
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:15,520
Speaker 3: Take that?

2846
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:24,360
Speaker 1: Thank you uh to his at job Jake from Media Pennsylvania.

2847
02:24:24,559 --> 02:24:28,200
That's our show right in fire Escape cast at gmail

2848
02:24:28,239 --> 02:24:33,840
dot com for next episode fill up dad inbox. Yeah,

2849
02:24:34,399 --> 02:24:38,000
Phill Chris, it was good to have you back.

2850
02:24:38,399 --> 02:24:39,440
Speaker 2: Good to be here.

2851
02:24:39,959 --> 02:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Really quick housekeeping stuff while I interrupt you. December sixth

2852
02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:46,920
Game of the Year, fire Escape, We'll be having our

2853
02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:50,840
official Game of the Year live stream. We're descending on Minneapolis.

2854
02:24:51,159 --> 02:24:55,799
As always, Jake, Mary, Dan and I will be there. Yeah,

2855
02:24:55,879 --> 02:24:58,360
Dad will probably be on Dan's twitch channel, I believe

2856
02:24:58,360 --> 02:25:00,440
twitch dot tv slash Dan Riker, as we usually do.

2857
02:25:00,799 --> 02:25:04,120
We'll let people know. If that's not the case. We

2858
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:07,280
will also be Uh. I don't know. We might be

2859
02:25:07,319 --> 02:25:10,719
doing some like bonus video stuff we usually do at

2860
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:13,440
least one while we're there. Not positive on that yet,

2861
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:15,799
but yeah, that's coming up in about a month and

2862
02:25:15,799 --> 02:25:19,840
a half or so. And uh, outside of that, Yeah,

2863
02:25:19,879 --> 02:25:20,360
that's about it.

2864
02:25:20,479 --> 02:25:22,040
Speaker 3: Tell us what's going on in your world?

2865
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:24,360
Speaker 4: What do you have coming up? You're always playing these weird,

2866
02:25:24,399 --> 02:25:25,120
wacky games.

2867
02:25:26,040 --> 02:25:27,959
Speaker 1: You know, what's going on with with the best sies.

2868
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:30,040
What's going on with postgame?

2869
02:25:30,079 --> 02:25:34,600
Speaker 2: I have coming up? Besties is you know, it's the

2870
02:25:34,639 --> 02:25:37,639
same every week we play new games. This is original

2871
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:42,200
idea that we've been working on incredibly for white men

2872
02:25:42,079 --> 02:25:44,840
in playing video games, and they talk about it each week.

2873
02:25:44,959 --> 02:25:46,239
Speaker 3: I gotta know what they're thinking.

2874
02:25:46,799 --> 02:25:51,319
Speaker 2: You gotta know thinking. And then on post games, I

2875
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:53,520
have a bunch of cool stuff coming up. I have

2876
02:25:53,639 --> 02:25:57,680
like my calendar through February set, so there's like some

2877
02:25:57,879 --> 02:26:01,399
bonker stuff. One thing liking both of you off Mike

2878
02:26:01,479 --> 02:26:05,360
about is I have a Thanksgiving special that I am

2879
02:26:05,399 --> 02:26:07,639
putting together and I would love for both of you

2880
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:11,399
to help me with it, So people should subscribe before

2881
02:26:11,440 --> 02:26:14,319
Thanksgiving so they can hear that there's a whole bunch

2882
02:26:14,360 --> 02:26:16,200
of people who are going to be on it. And

2883
02:26:16,239 --> 02:26:19,200
then other stuff that I have coming up. The next

2884
02:26:19,239 --> 02:26:23,440
episode is oh, I have an episode that is coming

2885
02:26:23,479 --> 02:26:25,680
up in the next few weeks that is about the

2886
02:26:25,719 --> 02:26:30,159
scariest game I have seen this year that is very

2887
02:26:30,200 --> 02:26:35,959
much not a scary game, and a real person died

2888
02:26:36,639 --> 02:26:40,559
in relation to this game, not while making it. I'll

2889
02:26:40,639 --> 02:26:42,799
just tell you what it is because it's too weird

2890
02:26:42,799 --> 02:26:46,280
to talk about. It involves a recreation of a very

2891
02:26:46,319 --> 02:26:51,319
infamous cave. It's really really weird and dark, and I

2892
02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:53,600
talked to the person who made it, and it is

2893
02:26:53,639 --> 02:26:55,000
an episode you should check out.

2894
02:26:55,239 --> 02:27:02,319
Speaker 3: But I have to know more. I bunk. Did they

2895
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:02,920
die in the cave?

2896
02:27:04,399 --> 02:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's it's so scary.

2897
02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:07,840
Speaker 1: You know.

2898
02:27:08,319 --> 02:27:11,200
Speaker 4: The most popular thing on TikTok is like just people

2899
02:27:11,239 --> 02:27:13,600
being like this guy got into this cave and then

2900
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:16,239
he couldn't get out, and then he fucking that what itself?

2901
02:27:17,360 --> 02:27:20,079
Speaker 2: It is the video game version of that in VR.

2902
02:27:20,600 --> 02:27:22,520
Speaker 3: This is going to be your next popular video.

2903
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:25,840
Speaker 4: Make sure that the audio is you can like get

2904
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:26,799
paid for it.

2905
02:27:27,639 --> 02:27:31,639
Speaker 1: Okay, don't don't, don't do it yourself? Fuck up?

2906
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:33,600
Speaker 3: This is the one. I'm telling you.

2907
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 4: These are like the most popular and most of them

2908
02:27:35,559 --> 02:27:37,799
are AI and they're fake, right, Like it's just so yeah.

2909
02:27:38,799 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 2: This is and the way that it went down was

2910
02:27:43,559 --> 02:27:44,639
one of the scariest things.

2911
02:27:44,479 --> 02:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I've ever heard.

2912
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:50,399
Speaker 2: What, Yeah, I'm good, you should check it.

2913
02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:56,399
Speaker 3: I gotta know about this spelunker crazy? Why would you

2914
02:27:56,399 --> 02:27:56,920
get in the hold?

2915
02:27:56,959 --> 02:27:57,520
Speaker 2: Tell you about it?

2916
02:27:57,559 --> 02:27:59,479
Speaker 1: Like, don't go in there, it's only They're an NPR

2917
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:00,239
style pot guess.

2918
02:28:00,399 --> 02:28:02,879
Speaker 4: I just like don't understand why anyone would get into

2919
02:28:02,920 --> 02:28:05,600
a hole that you feel like might not be big

2920
02:28:05,719 --> 02:28:07,479
enough for you, Like, why.

2921
02:28:10,239 --> 02:28:10,879
Speaker 3: Don't clip that?

2922
02:28:15,079 --> 02:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Do need Dan? Where's Dan when you need him? I know,

2923
02:28:20,559 --> 02:28:21,440
answer your own question.

2924
02:28:22,360 --> 02:28:27,000
Speaker 4: I just like I think it's a crazy decision, but anyway.

2925
02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:30,399
Speaker 2: It is, it's a bad I do not go into.

2926
02:28:31,639 --> 02:28:37,440
Speaker 1: Holes that might not be big enough for me. I do, Mary,

2927
02:28:37,479 --> 02:28:38,200
What have you been up to?

2928
02:28:39,879 --> 02:28:43,639
Speaker 4: I honestly been traveling so much that I haven't had

2929
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:46,000
a minute to stream, and I feel really bad.

2930
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:50,920
Speaker 3: I've like broken my stream streak for like three weeks

2931
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:52,639
because I keep traveling.

2932
02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:57,200
Speaker 4: But when this airs, I should be back on my

2933
02:28:57,399 --> 02:29:02,000
Monday streaming action. I have some collabs coming up with

2934
02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:05,360
some of my friends. Will be playing some games, especially

2935
02:29:05,360 --> 02:29:08,239
for Halloween, and I'll also be doing a charity game

2936
02:29:08,280 --> 02:29:12,760
for Saint Jude called Metal Meals, where I stream making

2937
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:17,639
like a meal that's very like metal music in my kitchen.

2938
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:20,639
I don't actually know what I'm gonna make yet, but

2939
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:23,639
I'm excited for the concept of Metal Meals, So we'll

2940
02:29:23,639 --> 02:29:27,360
be listening to metal music and making something cool.

2941
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:29,079
Speaker 3: Yeah for the kids.

2942
02:29:30,520 --> 02:29:34,079
Speaker 1: You you do charities for them, I body slam them. Yeah.

2943
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:37,799
Speaker 3: We all children in our own way, all right. I

2944
02:29:37,799 --> 02:29:40,719
didn't lie he exists.

2945
02:29:40,280 --> 02:29:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and the kids knew about him, all right.

2946
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:46,120
That is episode one nineteen. We will be back in

2947
02:29:46,239 --> 02:29:49,200
two weeks. I believe it'll be the full crew. Plant

2948
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:51,719
won't be here maybe, well, I don't know. You could

2949
02:29:51,719 --> 02:29:53,239
just hang around and we.

2950
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:56,879
Speaker 3: Don't know any episode dan.

2951
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:02,719
Speaker 1: So FMVs go follow post games, go review it, give

2952
02:30:02,719 --> 02:30:05,879
it a good review. Five Keep up on the upcoming

2953
02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:09,799
episodes catch up in the meantime, and uh yeah, we'll

2954
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:12,040
be prepping for Game of the Year in December. If

2955
02:30:12,079 --> 02:30:14,200
you want to get some merch to support us. So

2956
02:30:14,239 --> 02:30:16,840
that's we officially finally have fire skate merts dot com.

2957
02:30:16,879 --> 02:30:18,959
I got around to doing the very simple task of

2958
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:23,040
getting it, so it's not a bit anymore. Uh yeah,

2959
02:30:23,079 --> 02:30:26,120
go check it out. Get some banana hammocks, get some trunks.

2960
02:30:25,879 --> 02:30:29,479
Speaker 2: Selling those shirts with the Jedi mind Warriors.

2961
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:31,959
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. That is our episode,

2962
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:33,559
we willkay good, Yeah, you got it.

2963
02:30:33,639 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ordering that right now.

2964
02:30:36,600 --> 02:30:38,440
Speaker 3: Get it for you as a Christmas gift for your

2965
02:30:38,479 --> 02:30:39,000
loved ones.

2966
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:40,799
Speaker 2: There's coasters.

2967
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Oh there's mugs too. I think you're mad. Yeah, mouse pad,

2968
02:30:47,479 --> 02:30:51,559
all right, go buy those fucking about the author ship things.

2969
02:30:51,639 --> 02:30:54,040
All right, we'll be back in two weeks. Until then,

2970
02:30:54,559 --> 02:31:15,040
see yeah bye,