Speaker 1: This is the Olympic files.
Speaker 2: I'm Olio, and.
Speaker 3: We decided to do something on false flag operations things.
Speaker 3: I guess you could consider that the government creates to
Speaker 3: create a situation. I guess that they would wish to
Speaker 3: have the population agree with and so usually the best way,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to wars, is to get people
Speaker 3: all pissed off, find a boogeyman, and you're a pretty
Speaker 3: good shape. Now, we just outlined a few I think
Speaker 3: everybody will get the general gist of the situation. But
Speaker 3: we looked at some of the incidents and they are
Speaker 3: as follows. Fort Sumter, the sinking of the USS Main,
Speaker 3: the sinking of the Lusitania Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin,
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma City regarding the Borough Building bombing, the WTC
Speaker 3: bombing nine to eleven, and I hope it isn't the case.
Speaker 3: But what has just taken place in Boston in the
Speaker 3: detonation surrounding the or during the Boston Marathon. I don't know,
Speaker 3: is there anything else that you wanted to put on
Speaker 3: that list?
Speaker 2: THEO Well, I'm just a couple from antiquity, and this
Speaker 2: just shows you how old this trick is and how
Speaker 2: gullible populations always are. But of course Nero the best
Speaker 2: resources we have anyway, say that he or somebody from
Speaker 2: his side set the city of Rome on fire, and
Speaker 2: of course they blamed it on the Christians because they
Speaker 2: wanted to persecute the Christians. But also before that, I
Speaker 2: was reading online this week that I didn't know this
Speaker 2: until recently, but when Julius Caesar decided to, you know,
Speaker 2: across the Rubicon and come take over Rome. Before he
Speaker 2: got there, he apparently sent some of his agents in
Speaker 2: to cause a few what we would call today terrorists
Speaker 2: attacks in order to convince enough Roman citizens that there
Speaker 2: was no law in order in Rome. And so who's
Speaker 2: going to come and save the day? The man on
Speaker 2: the white horse, Julius Caesar, And it worked for him,
Speaker 2: It worked at the time for Nero, and it's it's
Speaker 2: working for governments today when when they want to start
Speaker 2: a war for the profit of a few always, or
Speaker 2: when they want to pass some lockdown legislation, have a
Speaker 2: get the pretext going, get the more than a pretext,
Speaker 2: it's they are they're proactive in helping these things happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just mentioned the ones that pertained to the
Speaker 3: United States, And of course the one that became a
Speaker 3: very popular event and back in nine to eleven was
Speaker 3: referring back to the reichstad being burnt.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, so everybody's kind of aware of that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean they the fact that you point
Speaker 3: that out, that it's happened across millennia should be a clue.
Speaker 3: And yet it works every time with regard to for it, Sumpter,
Speaker 3: We all understand that pretty much, although some people will
Speaker 3: nitpick and say it wasn't the real triggering element in
Speaker 3: the civil war, which I think it was. But no
Speaker 3: matter what, there was gonna be a civil war. And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you for your input on
Speaker 3: that right now, because as far as I'm concerned, this
Speaker 3: thing was bound to happen.
Speaker 1: They were just looking for a way to do it.
Speaker 2: So what do you think, Oh, oh, definitely, they're the
Speaker 2: European the old world European powers wanted it to come off.
Speaker 2: They were doing their best to get both sides moomented
Speaker 2: into a war, and it worked.
Speaker 3: And I don't think there was ever really going to
Speaker 3: be a Confederate in the United States of America. I
Speaker 3: don't think it was ever in the cards for the
Speaker 3: nation to be split, because what the nation did in
Speaker 3: the twentieth century could not be done if it were split.
Speaker 3: So that was not a possibility, although it was always
Speaker 3: raised that it was going to be that.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's why there was a session.
Speaker 3: And yet in a sense that flew in the face
Speaker 3: of the Constitution, which doesn't mean a thing anyway. But
Speaker 3: you were allowed to succeed, but Joe go aheadn't try it.
Speaker 3: And that's what we've gotten. But this goes back even
Speaker 3: into the fifties. In the eighteen fifties, it might have
Speaker 3: been one of the reasons why Buchanan was poisoned at
Speaker 3: his inaugural party.
Speaker 2: Which virtually nobody knows about.
Speaker 3: No, And I tell you, I've gone back and taken
Speaker 3: a look at some of the accounts, and they are
Speaker 3: a riot. One of them claims he had malaria.
Speaker 2: All about the dozens of people that were killed by
Speaker 2: the same thing he ingested.
Speaker 3: Well, they got well. But first of all, they're saying
Speaker 3: there was nothing ingested. So that was in some newspapers.
Speaker 3: Another one said definitely that I forget what it was
Speaker 3: that they said that he ate something was spoiled. I mean,
Speaker 3: you get the cherries in the milk thing, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And then there's there's accounts, uh you.
Speaker 1: Know that just vary.
Speaker 3: And when I went back and I took a look,
Speaker 3: I I bookmarked where I found them in this Chronicling America.
Speaker 1: Dot LC.
Speaker 3: And it's great to read these accounts, I mean, because
Speaker 3: that's that's just you know, first reporting, and it's there
Speaker 3: to be seen. Uh, But there seems to be a
Speaker 3: lot of dancing around the fact that he was Uh
Speaker 3: there was an assassination attempt on him, and certainly even
Speaker 3: though he did his survive and others did die, as
Speaker 3: you noted, and this happened in DC.
Speaker 1: I think it was what the National Hotel or something
Speaker 1: like that. I just like, I just like, how how
Speaker 1: selective malaria gets, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, and it only affects the one thide.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So at any rate, he was never the same
Speaker 3: after that. He was about as malliable as you could be.
Speaker 3: But I don't think he wanted any part of beginning
Speaker 3: the Civil War. So it devolved upon whoever's going to
Speaker 3: be next, and that's Lincoln, you know, And we're not
Speaker 3: giving Lincoln a pass as being a hero or you know,
Speaker 3: the fabled character that we see right up there against
Speaker 3: you know, with Washington.
Speaker 1: At both myths.
Speaker 3: But I would say I think that Lincoln was somebody
Speaker 3: who knew what the deal was going to be. He
Speaker 3: knew what he had to execute, He did it, and
Speaker 3: I do think that he didn't have the stomach for it,
Speaker 3: and at some point, probably around Gettysburg, he changed his mind.
Speaker 3: And that was not good news for all the other
Speaker 3: interested parties, both in his political party and elsewhere. But
Speaker 3: on the other hand, we see people who are constantly
Speaker 3: killing Lincoln and executing him and bringing him.
Speaker 1: Back out, and I'm like, all right, enough is enough,
Speaker 1: we got it, all right.
Speaker 3: He's not a demi god, but he's not the bassard
Speaker 3: you say he is either.
Speaker 1: He's somewhere in the middle. He became a president. What
Speaker 1: do you expect?
Speaker 3: And you see the same thing all along with these,
Speaker 3: the two sides, one that want to glorify and one
Speaker 3: that want to demonize it.
Speaker 1: Is it that been your experience as wealthyo?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And it's sadly. I've talked to a couple
Speaker 2: of people in the South today over the years, and
Speaker 2: you know, they would see my point. See what I'm
Speaker 2: looking at about a lot of historical things. But well,
Speaker 2: when it came to explaining oh, for example, they'd be
Speaker 2: the patriotypes, and they would even understand most of the
Speaker 2: problem with the fourteenth Amendment. However, when I would try
Speaker 2: to explain to them that the influence of Rome and
Speaker 2: the historical documents there, they won't even look at that.
Speaker 2: Oh and then because I would link, of course it
Speaker 2: factually historically, I would. I'm trying to show them the
Speaker 2: documents which prove that Lincoln was assassinated by Rome ultimately,
Speaker 2: and they won't even look at that because to them,
Speaker 2: that's well, they chalk it up to just Charles Chinicky,
Speaker 2: which that's it's a good source, but there are many others.
Speaker 2: And because they fear that that's going to make Lincoln
Speaker 2: look like a good guy, like a martyr. Well, I
Speaker 2: don't care about that. I was just trying to show them,
Speaker 2: you know, factually who assassinated him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course this goes on and on and on.
Speaker 3: You still have the one side in the history book
Speaker 3: side that make him look like, like I said, a
Speaker 3: Denny God and any of the others that can't kill
Speaker 3: him enough. And it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 3: Look he's a president that means your son of a
Speaker 3: bitch to begin with. I'm sorry, but that's the way
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: I do think he had some kind of change of
Speaker 2: heart in Gettysburg. I mean, can you imagine walking through
Speaker 2: that carnage and seeing it. That's who knows how that
Speaker 2: might affect somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think when they talk about all the similarities
Speaker 3: between Lincoln and Kennedy, one I think you can add
Speaker 3: to that as well is that both of them knew
Speaker 3: what the deal was when they signed on for this,
Speaker 3: and I think that both changed their minds, ironically one
Speaker 3: hundred years apart. A Lincoln in eighteen sixty three, Kennedy
Speaker 3: well before obviously November nineteen sixty three. But at some
Speaker 3: point in time, I just think they decided that they
Speaker 3: couldn't do it this way. And the once you're assigned,
Speaker 3: when the president is assassinated, is that they probably changed
Speaker 3: the script and that's not a good thing to do.
Speaker 1: And that's when they sent out the lone gunmen.
Speaker 3: But with regard to Fort Sumter, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 3: the Confederate states had seen it, they'd become their own government,
Speaker 3: and here we have a Union installation in the South,
Speaker 3: and that's Fort Sumter in the Bay of Charleston, South Carolina.
Speaker 3: So I mean, first of all, you would think that
Speaker 3: the Union troops would get there but out of there,
Speaker 3: and they would be allowed to go peaceably and safely.
Speaker 3: But no, that's day down there. So what happened was
Speaker 3: there was an order for the fort to be restocked
Speaker 3: with supplies, not anything necessarily of a military nature or
Speaker 3: an aggressive nature. And let me just read one paragraph
Speaker 3: from one of the many summaries about what took place
Speaker 3: that day, and it talks about the vice President of
Speaker 3: the Confederacy, Stevens, saying that he identified the beginning of
Speaker 3: the wars Lincoln's order sending a quote hostile fleet styled
Speaker 3: the Relief Squadron to reinforce Fort Sumter. The war was
Speaker 3: then and there inaugurated and began by the authorities at Washington.
Speaker 3: General Beauregard did not open fire upon Fort Sumter until
Speaker 3: this fleet was, to his knowledge, very near the harbor
Speaker 3: of Charleston, and until he had inquired of Major Anderson
Speaker 3: whether he would engage to take no part in the
Speaker 3: expected blow then coming down upon him from the approaching fleet.
Speaker 3: When Major Anderson would not make such a promise, it
Speaker 3: became necessary for General Beauregard to strike the first blow,
Speaker 3: as he did. Otherwise the forces under his command might
Speaker 3: have been exposed to fires, to two fires at the
Speaker 3: same time, and in front and in another in the rear.
Speaker 3: The use of force by the Confederacy therefore, was in
Speaker 3: self defense rendered necessary by the actions of the other side.
Speaker 3: So by sending the ship down there, it was clear
Speaker 3: what was going to happen. And it happened, and there
Speaker 3: you had just civil war.
Speaker 2: And the sources you and I know about, you know,
Speaker 2: they will they cite that Beauregard was a Romanist. It's
Speaker 2: worth noting all that.
Speaker 1: You know, that whole thing is so strange.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got Jefferson Davis, who was in contact
Speaker 3: with Rome. I mean he heretofore he had summered up
Speaker 3: in Canada. I mean, it's not like these people would
Speaker 3: necessarily just dead bang, you know, diehard Southerners.
Speaker 1: And the same goes with John Wilkes Booth.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got them missus crazy madman who couldn't
Speaker 3: take the fact that the Confederacy had been dashed.
Speaker 1: But this guy was an actor who was up in
Speaker 1: New York. More than most people were, you know, even
Speaker 1: during the war. He was going up there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was availing himself of a certain woman who was
Speaker 1: also seeing like a union general at the same time.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like laughable to a certain extent.
Speaker 3: You know, this wasn't all you know about all ramped
Speaker 3: up Southerners who you know, couldn't take the fact that
Speaker 3: the Confederacy wasn't going to.
Speaker 1: Stand, but at any rate, and I mean that that's
Speaker 1: one of the.
Speaker 3: Reasons why it's crazy to think that Booth shot Lincoln
Speaker 3: for any kind of military advantage.
Speaker 1: There was none. It was over with.
Speaker 2: That was a hit.
Speaker 3: And this goes back to what we were saying about Rome.
Speaker 3: But that was a whack job that had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with the war. It had to do with payback,
Speaker 3: if you will, and that bank. Huh yeah. And also
Speaker 3: because people were making money on the war and now
Speaker 3: the war was ending in their estimation too soon, you know,
Speaker 3: how to go with all the and there were people
Speaker 3: in Lincoln's own party that were profiteering, you know, even
Speaker 3: in his close circles. So I mean there was a
Speaker 3: lot of intrigue in that. But again, when we were
Speaker 3: put back together again, it was in a different manner
Speaker 3: that has stayed with.
Speaker 1: Us to this day.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, two years after that war you had the
Speaker 2: coup de ETAs called the Reconstruction Acts by those same
Speaker 2: people in Lincoln's party, but not that they were at
Speaker 2: the head of it. They were prominent.
Speaker 3: You know. One last comment, if we will, I often
Speaker 3: wonder too if Lincoln's haste to end the war, if
Speaker 3: it were somewhat humanitarian, it might have also.
Speaker 1: Kind of compelled.
Speaker 3: Sheridan to go on what is now the infamous March
Speaker 3: to the Sea. Sherman, I'm sorry, Sharon, and I said, right, Sherman, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know. And and that's something that really stuck with
Speaker 3: a lot of people down here, is that that absolute
Speaker 3: of you know, just annihilation of everything and everyone. It
Speaker 3: may have hastened the end of the war, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's to be humanitarian, you have to be what you know,
Speaker 3: anti humanitarian. So that's that it may not have ended
Speaker 3: that way had Lincoln maybe not have to change your heart,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Now. The next incident is the sinking of the USS Main.
Speaker 3: We are led to believe that there was a mine
Speaker 3: out there in the harbor in Havana, and that put
Speaker 3: there by the Spanish and that that blew up the
Speaker 3: main and of course everybody got all po in the
Speaker 3: United States and then they want to go around smack
Speaker 3: some Spanish.
Speaker 1: But what's your take on this?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally inside job. We wanted to We wanted
Speaker 2: the Spanish possessions we wanted and it was not even
Speaker 2: just Cuba that we wanted. The Philippines is what we
Speaker 2: really wanted, and we got them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been all through that out in the world.
Speaker 3: You didn't take Cuba, but that's oh, that's right, that's
Speaker 3: because you wanted to allow Cuba to remain independent. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: which of course is you know, the burr in our
Speaker 3: bonnet to this very day. But it's supposed to be
Speaker 3: that way, and that's what's set up that kind of situation.
Speaker 3: But it's just kind of crazy to think that Americans
Speaker 3: and Cubans go to work at guantanom Obey all the time,
Speaker 3: punch clock's going to go out, and here was supposed
Speaker 3: to be at such odds with the Cuban government that
Speaker 3: there is no kind of reciprocity or any kind of commerce.
Speaker 1: And this is interesting.
Speaker 3: The former mayor of Tampa gave a speech at Saint
Speaker 3: Leo University, and I had to tape it, and I
Speaker 3: was surprised during the Q and A that followed that
Speaker 3: Greco admitted that there was business going on between the
Speaker 3: United States and Cuba below the radar screen. I was
Speaker 3: really surprised he said that publicly, and I think at
Speaker 3: that time he was specifically referencing that Kren was being
Speaker 3: sent down. I mean, the Formers would doing business with Cuba,
Speaker 3: and I mean, I don't really care, but I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, and that's what this whole speech was about,
Speaker 3: was normalizing trade with Cuba.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: I mean, go ahead, but I have a quote here
Speaker 2: you they're going to get a kick out of. It's
Speaker 2: by McKinley, William McKinley, the president at that time. So
Speaker 2: that war happened in eighteen ninety eight. It was fomented,
Speaker 2: of course, by the so called Yellow Press, the Hearst publications,
Speaker 2: And everybody today is we're willing to admit that Hurst
Speaker 2: was Hearst's publications were propaganda and they fomented that war.
Speaker 2: But where we can't make the connections, connect the dots
Speaker 2: and see that the same thing's happening today, just different
Speaker 2: people in charge of the press. But okay, so eighteen
Speaker 2: ninety eight was the war in eighteen ninety nine, okay.
Speaker 2: The source on this is a book called the Life
Speaker 2: of William McKinley. But in eighteen ninety nine, apparently William
Speaker 2: McKinley made some speech before a Methodist Episcopal church, and
Speaker 2: here's what he wrote. Now, keep in mind, we had
Speaker 2: the United States forces during the invasion and occupation of
Speaker 2: the Philippines. We had killed and estimated two hundred thousand
Speaker 2: Filipino civilians. All right, But here's what McKinley said. This
Speaker 2: is going to sound like Bush Junior. He said, we
Speaker 2: could not leave them to themselves. They were unfit for
Speaker 2: self government and they would soon have anarchy and misrule
Speaker 2: over there, worse than Spain's was. There was nothing left
Speaker 2: for us to do but to take them all and
Speaker 2: to educate the Filipinos and uplift and civilize and christianize them.
Speaker 2: We're gonna christian That's like the in Vietnam. We had
Speaker 2: to save the village. We had to destroy the village
Speaker 2: by saving it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm more was backed in the native people's too.
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna save you by killing you. If
Speaker 3: you don't like what we tell you to do. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and and and just real quickly, I haven't really spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time. I'd like to, I think, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll ever get to it, because
Speaker 3: I don't believe that the assassinations of Garfield and McKinley
Speaker 3: were a lone gunmen. I mean, I know Geito is
Speaker 3: involved in show gosh and all this other stuff, but
Speaker 3: you know there's there's there's more to it than that.
Speaker 2: But I like to throw in the Huey Long one too.
Speaker 2: That's it fits the pattern, the loan nut gunman, when
Speaker 2: of course they were money powers behind it.
Speaker 3: Well, you have no secret service at the time of
Speaker 3: Lincoln's assassination, and supposedly his guard walks away and then
Speaker 3: both makes his move. But now that happened in eighteen
Speaker 3: sixty five, the way we have sixteen years later. Garfield
Speaker 3: is walking through Union Station and really with not much protection.
Speaker 3: Two people in his entourage not necessarily very fond of Garfield.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the old Julius Caesi's story.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got enemies in your midst and I mean,
Speaker 3: and they walk him through Union Station and bang he
Speaker 3: gets popped.
Speaker 1: Now that still isn't enough.
Speaker 3: You have McKinley getting popped in nineteen oh one, right,
Speaker 3: this is twenty years after, yeah, twenty years after Garfields,
Speaker 3: And I mean, doesn't anybody get it? There was secret
Speaker 3: service at the time, And I found one of these
Speaker 3: old newspapers in that website I mentioned that where was
Speaker 3: openly questioned like, how did you guys not jump this guy?
Speaker 3: I mean, he's in his line waiting to shake McKinley's hand.
Speaker 3: He's got a handkerchief wrapped around his hand. Don't you
Speaker 3: think it'd be like, Oh, come over here, you know,
Speaker 3: let's take a look at that. Oh no, he goes
Speaker 3: right up in pop's McKinley, you think. I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the odds for a lone gunmen
Speaker 3: to be successful three out of three times in the
Speaker 3: course of what that would be some like forty five
Speaker 3: years or so. So anyway, here are you going with
Speaker 3: the main? Now, I'll just read what they did and
Speaker 3: then kind of put a PostScript on this. So the
Speaker 3: US Navy Department immediately formed the Board of Inquiry to
Speaker 3: determine the reason for the mains destruction. The inquiry conducted
Speaker 3: in Havana, lasted for conducted in Havanda, lasted in four weeks,
Speaker 3: lasted four weeks. The condition of the submerged wreck and
Speaker 3: the lack of technical expertise prevented the board from being
Speaker 3: as thorough as later investigations, and in the end they
Speaker 3: concluded that a mine had detonated under the ship. The
Speaker 3: board did not attempt to fix blame for the placement
Speaker 3: of the device, the main. All right, The destruction of
Speaker 3: the main did not cause the US to declare war
Speaker 3: in Spain, but it served as a catalyst accelerating the
Speaker 3: approach to a diplomatic impasse. In addition, the seeking and
Speaker 3: deaths of a US sailor's rallied American opinion more strongly
Speaker 3: behind armed intervention. Well, isn't that kind of like starting
Speaker 3: the war? I mean this samanthic crap. I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: let's see okay. Lastly, in nineteen eleven, the Navy Department
Speaker 3: ordered a second board of inquiry after Congress voted funds
Speaker 3: for the removal of the wreck of Maine from Havana harbor.
Speaker 3: US Army engineers built a coffer dam around the silken battleship.
Speaker 3: Thus exposing it and giving naval investigators an opportunity to
Speaker 3: examine a photograph the wreckage and detail finding the bottom
Speaker 3: hull plates in the area of the reserve six inch
Speaker 3: magazine bent inward and backed. The nineteen eleven board concluded
Speaker 3: that a mine had detonated under the magazine, causing the
Speaker 3: explosion that destroyed the ship, but it gets better. Technical
Speaker 3: experts at the time of both investigations disagree with the findings,
Speaker 3: believing that spontaneous combustion of coal in the bunker adjacent
Speaker 3: to the reserved six inch magazine was the most likely
Speaker 3: cause of the explosion on board the ship. In nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy six, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover published his book How
Speaker 3: the Battleship Maine Was Destroyed. The admiral became interested in
Speaker 3: the disaster and wondered if application of minor and scientific
Speaker 3: knowledge could determine the cause. He called on two experts
Speaker 3: on explosions and their effects on ship hulls. Using documentation
Speaker 3: gathered from the two official inquiries, as well as information
Speaker 3: on the construction and ammunition of Maine, the experts concluded
Speaker 3: that the damage cause to the ship was inconsistent with
Speaker 3: the eternal external explosion of a mine. The most likely cause,
Speaker 3: they speculated, was spontaneous combustion of coal in the bunker
Speaker 3: next to the magazine. Now, the question was whether or
Speaker 3: not there was sabotage, but in foreshadowing what took place
Speaker 3: at nine to eleven at the World Trade Towers, the
Speaker 3: whole that was in question was removed by the army
Speaker 3: and kind of like disappeared.
Speaker 2: Oh gee, what a coincidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the smoking gun gets carried away, and
Speaker 3: I'll tell you where that came from. That came from
Speaker 3: a documentary on the History Channel that I saw, and
Speaker 3: I had a laugh because they could even today have
Speaker 3: concluded positively what the cause was, and they just can't
Speaker 3: find the piece. Maybe it's a staten island with all
Speaker 3: the stuff from the nine to eleven towers.
Speaker 1: So there you have it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did. They did the same exact thing at
Speaker 2: the several sites of nine to eleven, didn't they, Yeah,
Speaker 2: removing the evidence hurriedly.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh and Oklahoma City bombing too, it I believe, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we'll get to them.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: All right, So there you have the USS main. Now
Speaker 3: Elusitania is sunk on May seven, nineteen fifteen, and of
Speaker 3: course we were brought up in the United States to
Speaker 3: believe that Germany was really bad guys, And how dare
Speaker 3: you sink a passenger ship?
Speaker 1: You really sucked and let's go to war.
Speaker 3: How else would you going to get basically isolationist the
Speaker 3: Americans to want to get involved in something like that,
Speaker 3: And that did not hurt.
Speaker 1: Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 3: Although if you think about it, I mean, how many
Speaker 3: normal like regular hoypoloit people were on the Lucifania. I
Speaker 3: think you had a little bit of coin to get
Speaker 3: on that boat, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But still yeah, yeah, like the Titanic, Yeah, you had
Speaker 2: to be rich.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh there's another one for you too, THEO you
Speaker 1: had to send an email about asking folks, what's the
Speaker 1: big deal with what I called the Eyes of April?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know whatever. It takes place between the fourteenth
Speaker 1: and the nineteenth or whatever. It is, all right, some high.
Speaker 2: Holy day in ancient Paganism, isn't it?
Speaker 1: I guess? I mean what is it?
Speaker 3: I mean, Earth Day, as the Cooker explained, was also
Speaker 3: during that time, so I mean you got your little
Speaker 3: pagan ties to it, but.
Speaker 1: Still in all. You know, it's the birthday to Hitler
Speaker 1: on the eighteenth.
Speaker 3: You got the patriot thing happening, going back to Bunker Hill,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And then there's Kylumbine happened and okay,
Speaker 3: see happened during that time, and it's tax Day and
Speaker 3: all this other stuff. So and by the way, the
Speaker 3: Titanic sunk during that week. Also, it's why I bring
Speaker 3: it up, I don't know. But here we have a
Speaker 3: sacrifice of citizens innocence to foment war. And there's a
Speaker 3: book which I think is excellent, written by Colin Simpson
Speaker 3: titled very simply The Lusitania. And he has documentation. He's
Speaker 3: included images of letters and of I guess bill of
Speaker 3: ladings and everything. I mean, he's done his homework. And
Speaker 3: there is no doubt at all that the United States
Speaker 3: and Britain were engaging in using passengers as shields for
Speaker 3: the transportation of munitions, stores other elements of aid that
Speaker 3: the United States was giving Britain in her battle with Germany.
Speaker 3: Now we're supposed to think that the Germans just down
Speaker 3: to the Lusitania, that it had no military advantage, but
Speaker 3: it did, and everybody knew it for the most part.
Speaker 3: I've said it before mentioning it and comes from this
Speaker 3: book as well, that the Germans wanted a warning circulated
Speaker 3: in about fifty newspapers in the United States.
Speaker 2: They paid for.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, they paid for it, but I think one
Speaker 1: or two papers did it and no one else did.
Speaker 2: The des Moines Register was the only one that printed
Speaker 2: their warning.
Speaker 1: Oh, the des Moines Register.
Speaker 2: Yes, and man, there was some powerful string puller or
Speaker 2: pullars that told is you know, another example of the
Speaker 2: startling control of the US press, but told all those
Speaker 2: papers on the Eastern seaport don't run that warning advertisement
Speaker 2: that Germany had paid money for.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And Wilson also got the warning and somehow didn't release
Speaker 3: it to the public. And as much as I think
Speaker 3: that he was the person that was supposed to be
Speaker 3: in office to allow the creation of the Federal Reserve
Speaker 3: and also World War One, remember he ran on the plank.
Speaker 3: What was it, you know, we'll keep your boys out
Speaker 3: of war. Yeah, okay, yeah, absolutely. But you get a
Speaker 3: feeling at least that there was some infighting going on,
Speaker 3: if there in fact really was, but that Wilson was
Speaker 3: torn between two factions. Actually was a faction of one
Speaker 3: his current Secretary of State, William Jennings Bryan, who was
Speaker 3: trying to impress upon Wilson the need to you know,
Speaker 3: not get into war. Let's settle this thing, we can
Speaker 3: do it and her. But of course he failed. Those
Speaker 3: who did win was this nexus that comprised Robert Lansing,
Speaker 3: who happens to be the uncle of the Dullest brothers,
Speaker 3: so you know, it's all enough family. He and Joseph Tummelty,
Speaker 3: who's a figure that kind of like gets forgotten about
Speaker 3: because of the third member of this triad, and that
Speaker 3: was Colonel mandel House. Those three supposedly were in Wilson's
Speaker 3: ear to like, let's go to war and kick some booty.
Speaker 3: And Brian resigned over what took place or didn't take
Speaker 3: place with the president with regard to Lusitania. And the
Speaker 3: person who got his job is the one who wanted it,
Speaker 3: that was Lancing. So and off we went into war
Speaker 3: now again. If you can get a chance to read
Speaker 3: this book, it's it's very very compelling. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: hit you with a couple of paragraphs if you will
Speaker 3: indulge me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great book.
Speaker 3: It says, let's see, all right, they talk all right,
Speaker 3: they talk about there would been there would have been
Speaker 3: an eventual meeting between the.
Speaker 1: U boat that was out in that channel.
Speaker 3: Behind Ireland, and of course which would lead to the
Speaker 3: west side of the UK and Liverpool where it was headed. Uh,
Speaker 3: and I'll just pick it up there, It said. U
Speaker 3: twenty is the submarine involved. It said if the U
Speaker 3: twenty remained stationary, the two meeting that submarine in the Lusitania,
Speaker 3: they would meet at door in the following morning, with
Speaker 3: the Juno in the area close by. But Juno was
Speaker 3: being sent out as protection to bring the Lusitania all
Speaker 3: the way home.
Speaker 1: If the U two, I'm sorry, if the U twenty.
Speaker 3: Turned west, then the rendezvous would be even sooner, because
Speaker 3: if you can imagine, well, if you can visualize this,
Speaker 3: the U boat, the U twenty was kind of southeast
Speaker 3: of the southeast corner of Ireland, and so if it
Speaker 3: went west, it would be moving toward the Lusitania, who
Speaker 3: is making its way northeast up to Liverpool, it said.
Speaker 3: Admiral Oliver drew to Churchill's attention to fact that the
Speaker 3: Juno was unsuitable for exposure to submarine attack without escort,
Speaker 3: and suggested that elements of the destroyer flotilla from Milford
Speaker 3: Haven should be sent forthwith to her assistance. All Right,
Speaker 3: it says at this juncture the Admiralty War Diary stops short,
Speaker 3: perhaps understandably, as it was here the decision was made
Speaker 3: that was to be the direct cause of the disaster.
Speaker 3: No one alive today knows who made it, but Churchill
Speaker 3: and Fisher, both of them were in the higher ups
Speaker 3: in the navy, must share the responsibility. Shortly afternoon on
Speaker 3: May fifth, the Admiralty signaled the Juno to abandon her
Speaker 3: escort mission and return to Queenstown. She was to travel
Speaker 3: southeast overnight so as to clear the fast Neet by
Speaker 3: some fifty miles in undercover of darkness. The Lusitania was
Speaker 3: not informed that she was now alone and closing every
Speaker 3: minute to the U twenty. Adamal Coke at Queenstown was
Speaker 3: informed of the order and instructed to protect the Lusitania
Speaker 3: as best he could. Coke, in turn, did not warn
Speaker 3: the Lusitania. They sent those people to their deaths, and
Speaker 3: they had ample opportunity to forestall any kind of incident.
Speaker 3: Even if the Lusitania had taken a shot and the
Speaker 3: juno were there or anybody was there where there was
Speaker 3: this fleet out of milfred Haven, there would have been
Speaker 3: the loss of life. And where we're going to is
Speaker 3: that the one torpedo.
Speaker 1: There were not two.
Speaker 3: Torpedoes fired by the sub. There was one that would
Speaker 3: not have sunk the Lusitania. It was the second explosion
Speaker 3: in the damage it did that sunk the Lusitania like a.
Speaker 2: Rock, cutting off the communication and not telling the people
Speaker 2: that needed to know that they're going to repeat that pattern.
Speaker 2: And when we get to.
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor, yeah, I mean they were just sent out
Speaker 1: and hung out to drive. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And what's even more heartbreaking to consider, excuse me, that
Speaker 3: these people were in were in sight of land at
Speaker 3: least to their west and possibly to their east. I
Speaker 3: mean there was land about and they were never going
Speaker 3: to reach the shores alive. Okay, now here we go
Speaker 3: with the cover up real quick. The State Department cleared
Speaker 3: their archive for public inspection in nineteen sixty five, but
Speaker 3: of the copy sent to the Border of Trade, though
Speaker 3: at the time of the nineteen fifty inquiry, they would
Speaker 3: have been invaluable in determining many of the mysteries surrounding Lusitania.
Speaker 3: No trace remains except the acknowledgment to mister Frost of
Speaker 3: their safe receipt. The Border of Trade took depositions from
Speaker 3: every one of the two hundred and eighty nine members
Speaker 3: of the crew who survived. Only thirteen of these are
Speaker 3: available at the Public Record Office, and they all possess
Speaker 3: a curious lack of originality without exception, even though signed
Speaker 3: with a mark by a literate seaman. They placed the
Speaker 3: torpedoes impact as well aft amidship or both. I won't
Speaker 3: go on any more about that, but here's the point.
Speaker 3: Survivors did reach both coasts. The first ones reached alive
Speaker 3: to Ireland's coast and State Department people took down the
Speaker 3: Affid Davids, their testimonies, their eyewitness accounts of what happened.
Speaker 1: All of them got lost.
Speaker 3: The British boarder traded did the same thing with those
Speaker 3: that were going to contradict what England's take would be
Speaker 3: on it. And so they get these two hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty some on seamen to basically sign a boilerplate Affid
Speaker 3: David about and it was critical as to where the
Speaker 3: torpedo hit. But they got lost.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: It took a low.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except for the Siemens affidavits, which were cooked and,
Speaker 3: as we were stated, lacking an originality. So it was
Speaker 3: like signed here, this is what you saw, go away.
Speaker 3: Now what happened was and I'll let this be the
Speaker 3: end of it. You got to read this thing.
Speaker 2: But what's the name of the book again?
Speaker 3: Elusitania by Colin Simpson was written in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 3: Now there's a problem now for America because in fact
Speaker 3: they were sending passengers over a shields and that Germany
Speaker 3: did everything it could to dissuade them from doing that.
Speaker 1: And they were in their element.
Speaker 3: They were if you want to call the rules of engagement,
Speaker 3: they were definitely supported in their stance.
Speaker 1: What they did was allowed.
Speaker 2: We talked about that before we were using human shields.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, and Germany tries to say, look,
Speaker 3: don't do this, and they did it because Germany didn't
Speaker 3: want war with the United States, so they did everything
Speaker 3: they could. They try to appease America. But I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're not going to listen, what else can you do.
Speaker 3: But the whole controversy around the Lusitania was that the
Speaker 3: Germans shot two torpedoes and they did not, and they
Speaker 3: proved they didn't. They shot one and then there was
Speaker 3: a second explosion which either was set or was the
Speaker 3: result of the first torpedo. But had those munitions not
Speaker 3: been there, the Lusitania would not have sunk. And so
Speaker 3: what happens is they run this by government legal to
Speaker 3: see where they're at as far as their status and
Speaker 3: how they should proceed, because they were stuck in the
Speaker 3: sense between Britain and Germany, both countries were equally in
Speaker 3: favorable status with the United States. So here's what the
Speaker 3: government legal came back with. This is beautiful six quick points.
Speaker 3: Britain had obliterated the distinction between merchantmen and men of war.
Speaker 3: Therefore Germany had every right to sink the Lusitania, and
Speaker 3: Germany had not sunk to Lusitania, that a valuable cargo
Speaker 3: of munitions would have passed through to germans enemies Germany's enemies.
Speaker 3: There was no basis at international law for the United
Speaker 3: States claim that the life of an American citizen was
Speaker 3: sacris act even when aboard a belligerent ship of any category.
Speaker 3: That England had recognized this fact during the Russo Japanese war,
Speaker 3: and had published a warning to her citizens against taking
Speaker 3: passage in belligerent vessels. And lastly that the owners and
Speaker 3: operators of the Lusitania appeared to have committed a breach
Speaker 3: of Section five of the Passenger Act of the Navigational
Speaker 3: Laws of the United States. So here Britain had turned
Speaker 3: around and done the same thing that Germany did in
Speaker 3: the sense, but this time ignored it because it suited
Speaker 3: their purposes to get the United States eventually fully fledged
Speaker 3: in a war, although they did not come in for
Speaker 3: another two years plus. But you know, one of the
Speaker 3: visuals that would would have to grab you is that
Speaker 3: one guy in a life jacket just jumped off of
Speaker 3: the sinking Lusitania and was kind of exhausted and in
Speaker 3: shock and everything else, but recalls floating on his back
Speaker 3: amongst several what they call Moses baskets, in which there
Speaker 3: were babies from the nursery who had returned for a
Speaker 3: nap after their lunch. And he said he laid among
Speaker 3: them and listened to the cries, you know, several of them,
Speaker 3: until finally they were all still. They were drowned in
Speaker 3: their Moses baskets.
Speaker 1: Oh Man you know, how can you stomach that? You know,
Speaker 1: not Almighty?
Speaker 2: So it's Britain that was wrong, not Germany.
Speaker 3: And America was too. The United States was just as complicit.
Speaker 3: So there you have it, you know, anything to start
Speaker 3: a war.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we go to.
Speaker 3: Pearl, which I guess most people are more familiar with.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna throw it to you because now you
Speaker 3: had been your possession. As you said a couple of
Speaker 3: shows back, you do have of the final secret of
Speaker 3: Pearl Harbor?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2: By admiral were Admiral Robert Theobald?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh? Do you want to do you want to
Speaker 1: sum up what you got from that? Please?
Speaker 2: Fantastic book that was written in the what the mid
Speaker 2: fifties by a military admiral who was there. He was
Speaker 2: present for Pearl Harbor when what capacity I forget?
Speaker 1: But he he was there, and.
Speaker 2: He writes that Admiral Kimmel was a scapegoat and also
Speaker 2: Admiral I'm sorry, General Short with the Army. Both those
Speaker 2: guys they were they were the scapegoat. And he boy
Speaker 2: the tone in his book, he's very angry. He knows
Speaker 2: he's right, he knows these the men who died at
Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor were set up to die because FDR in
Speaker 2: his cabinet wanted a war with Japan. And that includes
Speaker 2: General Marshall. He was in on it too. And Theobald
Speaker 2: proves that the United States that that FDR and his
Speaker 2: cabinet anyway, I had years before I think if if
Speaker 2: months or years before, they had thoroughly broken the Japanese
Speaker 2: secret code, and we're reading all of their messages, and
Speaker 2: they knew that Japan was going to attack, and there
Speaker 2: was a certain machine by which they could read the
Speaker 2: codes of Japan. And was it the Purple machine. May
Speaker 2: I forget what it's called. But they gave these machines
Speaker 2: out to all of their outposts all along the Pacific,
Speaker 2: and Guam had won, the Philippines had one, even the Dutch,
Speaker 2: they gave one to the Dutch in Yeah, where in
Speaker 2: Micronesia the Dutch were. But the one FLA they didn't
Speaker 2: give this intercepting code intercepting machine was Hawaii and they
Speaker 2: didn't they and also the Japanese. I can't forget it,
Speaker 2: if I can't remember if Theobald gets into this or
Speaker 2: two later authors who wrote about this do certainly, but
Speaker 2: also the Japanese did not. They failed to maintain radio
Speaker 2: silence en route to Hawaii, and so we knew they
Speaker 2: were coming and we let them attack them with a
Speaker 2: We wanted it. We needed a pretext to get into
Speaker 2: that war because they were even though it was secondary,
Speaker 2: we wanted war with Germany first of all, to again
Speaker 2: help out our master and controller mother Britain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it, because there was a tripod agreement
Speaker 3: whereupon if Germany, Italy or Japan were attacked, attack one
Speaker 3: was an attack on all. So with the war declared
Speaker 3: in Japan, the government got its war with Germany, which
Speaker 3: again the American people were kind of not interested in
Speaker 3: getting involved. I mean, the pulse of the American people
Speaker 3: prior to World War One and two both times were like,
Speaker 3: don't get us involved. That's like a European thing. And
Speaker 3: although you could say, well, look at all the devastation
Speaker 3: and the destruction and the loss of life that was.
Speaker 3: Everybody understands that. But that doesn't mean you have to
Speaker 3: go over and jump in. But I'm sure that there
Speaker 3: are you know, millions of French and Polish and Dutch
Speaker 3: and other nationalities. We're very happy to see the Americans
Speaker 3: there there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But still in all we were not inclined to get involved.
Speaker 2: So that's what Europe does going back millennia. They fight.
Speaker 2: Let them fight. That's why we got out of there,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Now, I got this book which I bought and donate
Speaker 3: it to Saint Leo Library, title Day of Deceit The
Speaker 3: Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor. That's a great book
Speaker 3: that was written by Roberts Dennett, who served in the
Speaker 3: United States Navy from forty two to forty six out
Speaker 3: in the Pacific, and then he was able to obtain
Speaker 3: a number of documents here to four confidential through FOYA.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that's really interesting is this.
Speaker 3: This is great, all right. This is a dispatch from Tokyo.
Speaker 3: The asset's name is Mattsuwaka to Berlin, to Oshima. This
Speaker 3: is May five, nineteen forty one, and in parentheses and
Speaker 3: you'll love to stand it and says purple hyphen ca.
Speaker 3: So there's your purple machine, all right, all right, and
Speaker 3: it says now get this all right, So this between
Speaker 3: German excuse me, Japanese assets one in Tokyo one to Berlin.
Speaker 3: Please express our appreciation to and this is an acronym
Speaker 3: Stamma staamaa to Stamma for the information in question, and
Speaker 3: ask him if it is not possible to give us
Speaker 3: the authority for the statement that it has been fairly
Speaker 3: reliably established that the US government is reading our code
Speaker 3: messages so that we might take appropriate action. All right,
Speaker 3: So now, in May of nineteen forty one, the Japanese
Speaker 3: knew their code.
Speaker 1: Had been broken, and just to huh, they even knew.
Speaker 3: I guess when certain things are stopped that you don't
Speaker 3: think anybody knows you were trying to perpetrate.
Speaker 1: After a while, it's like, does somebody have foreknowledge of this?
Speaker 3: And just real quickly, it says Japanese admirals, believing that
Speaker 3: their naval codes were secure, filled the intelligence pipeline with
Speaker 3: messages that made clear their intentions during the week's preceding
Speaker 3: pro harbor for these disclosures, where radio messages originated between
Speaker 3: November five and December two, nineteen forty one one by
Speaker 3: Admiral Assami Nagano, chief of the Naval General Staff, And
Speaker 3: it goes on and blah blah blah, and they kept
Speaker 3: hoping stuff out in preparation for this for the oncoming war.
Speaker 2: What I like about Stinnett's book he adds one more
Speaker 2: thing because it's written at a later date, and he
Speaker 2: did go get those freedom of information acts Theobold and
Speaker 2: another guy, John Toland. They covered all the many of
Speaker 2: the acts of provocation that FDR and his henchman did
Speaker 2: to provoke Germany into attacking, like the embargo on the
Speaker 2: oil and freezing their economic assets and sending the volunteer
Speaker 2: mercenaries over to China, that flying tigers, General Chanalt and
Speaker 2: all that. But Stinette also adds this, which I didn't
Speaker 2: know about until I read his book. FDR had, you know,
Speaker 2: the men around him who told him what to do.
Speaker 2: They we had cruisers, like they would send a lone
Speaker 2: cruiser in deep into Japanese water to just pop up
Speaker 2: and make itself known. And then when the Japanese would
Speaker 2: send a shipped out to stop it and see what's
Speaker 2: going on, and then they would the American ship would
Speaker 2: high tail it out of there. But we would we
Speaker 2: would do that to just provoke them, to mess with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if there was an instigation that cause them
Speaker 3: to attack. I mean, this is why we were doing this,
Speaker 3: because it's not unlike what was used a fort sumter
Speaker 3: in a sense, if you know what I mean, you
Speaker 3: know you're looking for something to start a fight, So
Speaker 3: obviously you do whatever is obvious and when and when
Speaker 3: it's violated. For instance, if the union leaves, therefore it
Speaker 3: something there in their possession.
Speaker 1: You got a problem, all right. So what you're asking,
Speaker 1: you're asking for it to be attacked.
Speaker 3: Uh. And once something occurs, Bang, you got your same
Speaker 3: thing here, you know, go to Japanese. All right, they're
Speaker 3: going to go to Pearl Harbor. We'll make believe we
Speaker 3: don't know. Bang it happens. Now we get a war.
Speaker 3: The last paragraph of this particular part of the afterword
Speaker 3: Instant's book, and if anybody's given to wanting to purchase this,
Speaker 3: get an addition that's two thousand and one or later,
Speaker 3: because it contains images and more text that was not
Speaker 3: available in the first edition or those whatever editions were
Speaker 3: prior to two thousand and one. Stenet closes is one
Speaker 3: section by saying, by continuing to classify Japanese naval intercepts
Speaker 3: and their communication and de coding data as a national
Speaker 3: defense secret, the National Security Agency has done a disservice
Speaker 3: to the excellent prhotographers and the radio intelligence obtained by
Speaker 3: monitor stations operated by the US and her allies in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty one, as well as to history herself. The
Speaker 3: author rest ofmates, there are at least one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty three thousand Japanese naval intercepts, plus supporting communication data
Speaker 3: that remain unseen in the nineteen forty one US Navy files,
Speaker 3: And finally says, nevertheless, the major secrets of Pearl Harbor
Speaker 3: or at last out in the open after years of denial.
Speaker 3: The truth is clear. We knew, and they did know.
Speaker 3: And I had to laugh because there was a book
Speaker 3: that came out the kind of I guess to Parry,
Speaker 3: at least Theobold's book, and I was gifted with it
Speaker 3: by a listener. And when I had a laugh, was
Speaker 3: this is gonna be the true story of Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 3: And it was written by an author who was giving
Speaker 3: full reign to just pursue every avenue, by Stimpson, who
Speaker 3: was one of the bastards who knew that the Japs
Speaker 3: were coming and was in FDR's cabinet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three of the most horrible people who knew about
Speaker 2: all this were of course FDR and Stimson and General Marshall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean Stimpson and then saying I mean,
Speaker 3: see this is what you gotta love. But you see,
Speaker 3: this is why there was always a problem. This is
Speaker 3: what begats conspiracy theories, and that is the works that
Speaker 3: are beauty pieces or hit pieces, depending on what they
Speaker 3: want to do to support the government and the history
Speaker 3: textbook stories are always promoted. The ones that have something
Speaker 3: to say differently never get promoted. They're out there, but
Speaker 3: more or less, how many people are paying attention or
Speaker 3: even honestly, how many people know they're out there? And
Speaker 3: that was the whole idea. So they don't suppress the
Speaker 3: books necessarily though that happens as well, but that they're
Speaker 3: just not promoted. So nobody knows. So does anybody know
Speaker 3: about Theobald's book it's the next book?
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 3: Does anybody know about this other book that came out
Speaker 3: that was backed by the government. Yes, And the person
Speaker 3: said it to me saying, like, you know, for obvious reasons,
Speaker 3: I'm sending you this because that's their side of the story.
Speaker 3: But how can Stimpson, who was one of the purpose
Speaker 3: turn around and say this is going to be an
Speaker 3: honest account, and this individual can go wherever he wants
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, make me puke, will you please.
Speaker 2: And also the other henchmen withinside knowledge, the General Marshall
Speaker 2: al he was one of the instigators that started the war,
Speaker 2: got us into the war, and then after the war
Speaker 2: he was put in charge of you know what we
Speaker 2: now call the Marshall Plan. And you had talked to
Speaker 2: somebody that totally proved that. In Europe, it's known and
Speaker 2: documented that that was all about Marshall signing off on
Speaker 2: getting the US taxpayer to rebuild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that's right. That that particular woman is
Speaker 1: a Christian missionary. But in this one particular.
Speaker 3: Situation, she accompanied her sister, who was a prop and
Speaker 3: who was attending some kind of conference and I believe Austria,
Speaker 3: and she accompanied her. And so while her sister was
Speaker 3: busy with the things of the conference, she was allowed
Speaker 3: to walk around certain buildings and she got herself into
Speaker 3: a kind of a library.
Speaker 1: And she's she's the.
Speaker 3: One that just had said to me. She said she
Speaker 3: was amazed when she went in there. She said, she
Speaker 3: found every single volume of IRS codes and laws and
Speaker 3: everything else. And as she went through stuff, she said. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she had come away, she would be saying, you know what,
Speaker 3: the American people paid for the Marshall Plan. In other words,
Speaker 3: our military and the Allied military destroyed the whole place,
Speaker 3: and American taxpayer is paid to reconstruct it.
Speaker 2: So Marshall gets America into that war and then he
Speaker 2: sticks us with the bill.
Speaker 1: There you go. Fantastic works every time.
Speaker 3: All right, look, yeah, we'll make this a part two situation,
Speaker 3: and I think we probably should do it with some
Speaker 3: proximity to this one, but with some distance, because we'll
Speaker 3: find out what's going on with the second suspect of
Speaker 3: this whole situation up in Boston. So all right, listen,
Speaker 3: I appreciate it THEO, thanks for coming aboard, and we'll
Speaker 3: pick this up as part too.