WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.839 This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.360 I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:09.480 demand on the iHeartRadio app. All right, Vice President Kamala 4 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.480 Harris former President Donald Trump shook hands again this morning 5 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.400 as they both arrived at a nine to eleven anniversary 6 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.239 ceremony in downtown Manhattan. 7 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.000 We'll tell you how that went down coming. 8 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.480 Up, But first we go back to the debate and 9 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:25.519 the after effects of that, where we kick off Swamp Watch. 10 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:28.199 Swamp is horrible. 11 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:32.000 The government doesn't work. Man, make this like a reality 12 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.679 TV show. Bad noos. 13 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:37.159 Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C. 14 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.240 Hey, Joe, he's a town hall too, clearly built on 15 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.000 a swamp and in so many ways still a swamp. 16 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:46.439 I have a watch of Mawarkey, he said, drain the swamp. 17 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:47.640 I said, Oh, that's so hope. 18 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.479 You know the thing, Well, the debate doesn't make an 19 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:56.799 election happen for you. It doesn't win you the election, 20 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:01.119 but it may win you money, and that is what 21 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:05.040 moves the needle. Come November, Steven Newcom is a reporter 22 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:08.120 with Axios and joins us now to talk about the 23 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.560 potential gold mine in Trump's debate debacle. 24 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.840 Steven, Yeah, that's right. 25 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:16.599 Well, one, I want to thank you for giving me 26 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.799 pointers on how to get out of work later this 27 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:22.439 week if I really want to. Second of all, yeah, 28 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.400 I think that look the fundraising boon that the Harris 29 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.159 campaign has seen, not just after the debate, but since 30 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.680 she's been in the candidate she has sort of Democrats 31 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.840 across the board have washed Republicans, and I think that 32 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:41.079 with her debate performance last night, the energy at least 33 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:43.920 on the Democratic side is only going to build. So 34 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:46.280 I think that's one of the major takeaways. I think 35 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.560 you're right, you only learn so much from these debates. 36 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.000 But in terms of grassroots donors and sort of convincing 37 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.319 the mega donors that she's the right candidate, I think 38 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:57.200 she did a good job of that last night. 39 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.640 So what does that translate into, like individual smaller donations, 40 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.439 So you mentioned mega donors or both. 41 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.439 Yeah, I think the biggest impact is the small donations. 42 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:14.080 I know that Act Blue last night said in the 43 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.479 first hour of the debate, seventy seven percent of their 44 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:21.159 grassroots donors donations were coming from women. So I think 45 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.120 that that's a demographic that the campaign is obviously happy 46 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:27.919 to hit and former President Trump has had an issue 47 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.479 with women in the past in terms of getting them 48 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.479 to vote for him. It's one of the reasons why 49 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:38.000 he lost in twenty twenty. So it is the grassroots 50 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:41.719 energy that the campaign really wants to see continue to 51 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:43.400 build as they get closer to November. 52 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.039 We're talking to Stephen Newcombe. 53 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:49.240 He's a reporter with Axios covering Congress in Washington, and 54 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:54.080 do you anticipate them weaponizing some of Trump's not so 55 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:55.319 great moments? 56 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:00.159 Yeah, I think I think that that moment where he 57 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:04.680 talked about the Haitian immigrants sort of eating dogs and cats, 58 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.280 And to be honest, I'm not even fully caught up 59 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:12.159 on that conspiracy because I'm not entirely sure of the background, 60 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.080 but Democrats that we talked to sort of pointed to 61 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.960 that instantly as a moment that will be pretty useful 62 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:24.280 in attack ads going forward. And I think we'll probably 63 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.840 see some of that stuff on the airwaves here soon. 64 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:29.439 All right, Just to catch you up, Stephen, the eating 65 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:32.000 the animals thing, it was not on my radar at 66 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.759 all either earlier in the week and the night before 67 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:42.120 the debate, So Tuesday or Monday I guess I had 68 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.120 heard about this, and I'm like, what's. 69 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:44.560 Going on with this? 70 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:48.639 And what happened is it's a Biden administration program that 71 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:52.439 led to an influx of Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Illinois 72 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:57.919 or I'm sorry, Springfield, Ohio. And the far right fringe 73 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:02.680 conspiracy theory was that these people were kidnapping dogs and 74 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:06.400 cats and ducks from neighborhood ponds and eating them. 75 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.000 Apparently it started with. 76 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:13.080 A mentally ill woman, not even in Springfield, Ohio, who 77 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:18.399 unfortunately was captured on video eating a cat at some point. 78 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.399 We don't know who she is, what the mental illness was, 79 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.120 or where it was taken, but it wasn't even in Ohio. 80 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.040 But the far right fringe kind of ran with this narrative, 81 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:32.680 and then Trump doubled down on that again last night 82 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:34.519 in Springfield. 83 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:38.319 They're eating the dogs the people that came in, They're 84 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.959 eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of 85 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.600 the people that live there. And this is what's happening 86 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:47.560 in our country. 87 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:49.360 And it's a shame and. 88 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:52.839 Really a missed moment to talk about how what's really 89 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:58.399 happening there is that the immigrant population has saturated the 90 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.040 services for the people who have lived there for decades, 91 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:03.680 and that's like the real issue, but kind of got 92 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:06.079 sidetracked with the whole eating of the animals. I just 93 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.079 don't know how much Harris is the campaign is going 94 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.639 to want to give oxygen to that, not at all. 95 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.560 I mean, yeah, you know, it's interesting talking about money 96 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.879 because it's so easy to They make it so easy 97 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.519 for you to donate money. Now, you can sign you 98 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:22.319 can pay with your credit card, PayPal, you can donate weekly. 99 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.480 And then I'm just looking at the different sites to 100 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.560 donate money and on the on the Trump site which 101 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:32.160 is secure dot four more years pack dot org. We 102 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:37.160 must fight the big money pouring into elect lunatic liberals 103 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:39.800 like Harris and Waltz who want to turn our entire 104 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.360 country into San Francisco. This is kind of the theme 105 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.279 we were talking about with the debate last night, Sharon 106 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.959 and Stephen is you know, the criticism, the negativity versus 107 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.399 the optimism and turning the page and not going back. 108 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.920 Yeah, and here on Capitol Hill and conversations that we 109 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.079 have with Republicans, some of the most senior Republicans, and 110 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:04.120 you're talking about you know, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, 111 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.600 how Speaker Mike Johnson. They've been clear that they want 112 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.399 the former president to talk about the future, stop talking 113 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.560 about the twenty twenty elections, not talking about all the 114 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.720 grievances that he has over the last four years that 115 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.759 he hasn't been in office. But that is that is 116 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.720 the issue with Trump. It has been the issue with 117 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:23.839 Trump since she started running in twenty fifteen. Is the 118 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:28.120 stubbornness to stay on message. I think this time around 119 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.720 he's even more particularly unfocused. He looked angrier than I 120 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.160 had seen him in front of a camera in some times, 121 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.319 So I think, you know, Republicans are disappointed in the performance, 122 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:40.199 but they still think that he's right on the issues 123 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:41.720 and that's why they he's supporting. 124 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:47.199 Steven Nucomb appreciate it, great work, Thanks for having me. 125 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:47.480 Guys. 126 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:52.959 Well, we mentioned this earlier, but the overnight TV ratings 127 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.040 have revealed that an estimated sixty five million viewers tuned 128 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.759 in to watch that debate. That is twenty eight percent 129 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.600 larger of an audience than the people who tuned in 130 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.399 to see what Biden brought to the table in the 131 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:08.800 last debate back in June. 132 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:09.519 That's huge. 133 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.360 Yeah, and overnight rating a seventy percent share of all viewers. 134 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.040 Wow, I mean you can't get that on anything. 135 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:18.519 Well, I mean at the NFL. 136 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:20.800 Yeah, I mean the super Bowl is the super Bowl. 137 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:22.439 We looked this up the last time. 138 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:24.240 Remember, I think the super Bowl has about one hundred 139 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.920 and twenty one hundred and thirty million viewers, so maybe 140 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.319 two to three times that. But yeah, but those numbers 141 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.560 are impressive, and that goes to show what that people 142 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.959 are paying attention, that people did want information that maybe 143 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:37.160 they hadn't made up their mind. 144 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:40.000 They wanted to learn more about Harris and it's a 145 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:40.360 good thing. 146 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:42.360 And then and then so many more will probably have 147 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.959 watched highlights or seen you know, news stories about it. 148 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.879 That number, I'm sure is going to realistically be much higher. 149 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:52.000 I wonder if advertisers were able to capitalize. 150 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:53.680 On that, like, oh, there are only two commercial breaks, 151 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.600 that's right, Yeah, what a missed opportunity. Well I needed 152 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.800 more commercial breaks to be honest. Really, yes, I was like, please, 153 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:02.519 can I take a break. I want to go get 154 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:05.240 some food. I mean, I'm like sitting there watching and 155 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.319 I'm like, okay, I gotta go pee. I want to 156 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:09.600 go get some food. When am I going to get 157 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:10.879 a break here? I didn't want to pause it. I 158 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:12.639 don't like being behind right. 159 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:13.920 No, I thought it was great. 160 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:15.800 I mean, I would love to see without any commercials, 161 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.480 just keep going the whole time, although they need they 162 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.319 needed a break. And apparently if you read some of 163 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.000 the behind the scenes accounts from people that were there, 164 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:24.600 there was no audience, but there was I think a 165 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.120 poola reporters in there during that that there was a 166 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.199 long break about an hour into it, maybe a four 167 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:35.440 minute break. So apparently Trump left the stage. We don't know, 168 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:38.879 you know what he did, took a break, never looked 169 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:42.320 at her, came back onto the stage, never looked at her. 170 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:44.799 She the entire time was on the stage taking notes, 171 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.000 never looked up when he walked off, never looked up 172 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:47.679 when he came back. 173 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:49.559 They didn't acknowledge each other at all. 174 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:53.840 Well, and that's what made today's picture that so much interesting. 175 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:59.360 Kapling yesterday Tyreek Hill getting arrested on Sunday before the 176 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.919 game right side hard Rock Stadium there in Miami. We 177 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:08.080 got the footage yesterday, our last the afternoon before, and 178 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:10.840 we played it for you yesterday, and the bodycam footage 179 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.320 was not great for really anybody involved. He refuses to 180 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:17.440 roll down the window it's a tinted window. The officers 181 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.600 take that and they escalate the situation. He ends up 182 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:25.720 on the ground, handcuffed, and Tyreek Hill now has come 183 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.039 out with a statement. He was at a press availability 184 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.480 for the team today and here's his statement. I could 185 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.639 have been better. I could have let down my window. 186 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:36.360 At the end of the day, I'm a human. I 187 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:38.360 got to follow the rules. I got to do what 188 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.039 everyone else would do. Now, does that give them the 189 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.080 right to literally beat the dog out of me? Absolutely not. 190 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.039 I think most people would agree with that. 191 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:48.679 Yeah. 192 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.720 I was talking to one of my friends who is 193 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:56.159 a cop, retired cop, and he said, Tyreek set the 194 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.399 tone that the officers clearly have the right to stop 195 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:02.120 you for dry having seventy on a surface street, and 196 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.279 they have the right to be safe as they address you, 197 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.200 to be able to see you in your hands. Justified 198 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.840 entirely in demanding that he opened the tinted window. He said, 199 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.360 they were all good, and then the mouth breathing motor 200 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:17.440 cops egos got in the way exactly escalated to physical force, 201 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:21.480 he says, which was just not justified at that point right. 202 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:23.639 I agree with that analysis. 203 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:25.720 But then other police officials will look at that and 204 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.759 say the exact opposite, that they followed their training and protocol. 205 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.399 But it seems like the keyword you mentioned is escalation. 206 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.080 They're trained to de escalate, and instead they escalated. 207 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.720 Right, he said, a classic case of a whole meeting 208 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:40.720 uninvolved law enforcement. 209 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:42.799 So what's the takeaway from that? 210 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.279 Since we're talking about takeaways from the debate, the takeaway 211 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:47.960 is when you're pulled over, do what you're asked to 212 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.120 do and don't be belligerent. 213 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.600 Yes, yeah, seems obvious, but not to everyone. 214 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:56.720 Okay, Well the debate. 215 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:59.759 Just to put a bow on it, I think that 216 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.480 one of the big takeaways for me was that she 217 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:06.720 was able, Kamala Harris was able to bait Donald Trump, 218 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.279 and that's when he started to lose it. This clip, 219 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:12.279 This was on the path to the eating of the 220 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:15.639 animal's mess when she baited him with crowd size. 221 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.080 And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and 222 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.679 I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald 223 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:24.279 Trump's rallies. We'll start leaving his rallies early out of 224 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.360 exhaustion and boredom, and I will tell you the one 225 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.480 thing you will not hear him talk about is you. 226 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.759 You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, 227 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.480 and your need and your desires. And I'll tell you, 228 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.720 I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first, 229 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:40.639 and I pledge to you. 230 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:41.240 That I will. 231 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.679 Vice President Harris, thank you President Trump on that point. 232 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:45.360 I want to get your response to respond. 233 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.039 Let me just ask the why did you try to 234 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:49.399 kill that bill and successfully so? That would have put 235 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.720 thousands of additional agents and officers on the board. 236 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.399 Responders to the rallies, she said, people started leaving. 237 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:56.759 People don't go to her rallies. 238 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:57.600 There's no reason to go. 239 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:00.639 And the people that do go, she's busting him in. 240 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:04.120 And paying them to be there and then showing them 241 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:05.039 in a different light. 242 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.320 So she can't talk about that. People don't leave my rallies. 243 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.919 We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in 244 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.679 the history of politics. That's because people want to take 245 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:14.799 their country back. 246 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:16.960 Our country is being lost. 247 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:18.000 We're a failing nation. 248 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:21.840 So I mean, he had a chance to really go 249 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.600 after immigration and the border there as well, and well, 250 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:28.279 he never answered the questions to make it about himself, right, right. 251 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:29.440 Both of them are guilty of that. 252 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.240 I mean, every politician that's like well politics one on one, 253 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:34.399 right is making the statement that you'd like to make, 254 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.519 not necessarily answering the question. But you know, I've read 255 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:42.320 so many articles just since this morning, you know, looking online, 256 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.279 the Drudge Report, remember the Drudge Reports, kind of old 257 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:52.080 school almost these days, headline Trump's nine to eleven worst 258 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:57.120 performance of career, big bold letters. And then Michael Steele, who, 259 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.360 if I'm not mistaken, used to be ahead of the 260 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:07.000 Republican Party, called Trump small, withered and beaten, and then 261 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:10.480 he said there's nothing worse than a pissed bigot on 262 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:14.840 stage with a woman he can't control. So, I mean, 263 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.320 I think only people with the last name Trump have 264 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.679 anything good to say about his performance last night. 265 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.799 I I mean, I was tapping into conservative media this 266 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.279 morning just to see if there was going to be 267 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.759 any spin on it, and I didn't hear any. It 268 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:33.519 was just a very subdued kind of Oh man, he 269 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.519 screwed up. He could have just stuck to inflation, grocery prices, 270 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.600 the economy, The fact that she could very well have 271 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:46.480 a socialist agenda, which is very on America, and that's 272 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:47.639 not what happened. 273 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:49.840 He was easily baited. 274 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.919 I'm not a big fan of comparing things to nine 275 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.360 to eleven or someone's nine to eleven, especially especially on 276 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.879 the anniversary of nine to eleven. It's kind of like 277 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.480 that Hitler reference. It's just like it's too too much, 278 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.720 it's overkill, right. Well, speaking of nine to eleven, Kamala 279 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.279 Harris and Donald Trump shook hands today this morning as 280 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.600 they arrived at the nine to eleven anniversary ceremony in 281 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:12.320 downtown Manhattan. 282 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:13.879 The optics are odd. 283 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:18.720 There's Joe Biden in the middle, looking like weekend at Bernie's, 284 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:23.200 and then there's Kamala Harris reaching reaching over him to 285 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:27.559 shake Donald Trump's hand. Donald Trump has the fakest, most 286 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.960 constipated smile that I've seen in a while on his face. 287 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:34.679 Yeah, he is so pissed off. 288 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:36.200 I bet I'm surprised. 289 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.000 I don't monitor truth social but I'm surprised that we 290 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.919 haven't heard him unleashing anything yet. 291 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.399 Well, it's interesting too, because Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor 292 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:47.000 of New York City, apparently brought them together. 293 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:48.399 They're like a part. 294 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:50.399 They were on opposite sort of ends of the stage 295 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.159 but still close together. Apparently Bloomberg broker the handshake, if 296 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:54.919 you want to call it that. 297 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:56.320 But you know, it's just. 298 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:01.600 So many legitimate issues to discuss, right, and then we 299 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:04.519 were talking about Taylor Swift and the and her impact 300 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.799 on it, and to me, that's a very important development. 301 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.000 But then our old friend Elon Musk has to jump in, right, 302 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:15.639 did you see this headline I did? Elon Musk needles 303 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.799 Taylor Swift after Harris endorsement, I will give you a 304 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:24.159 child and guard your cats. So Elon Musk apparently, you know, 305 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.279 he hosted Saturday Night Live. I think he thinks that 306 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:29.519 he's funny. I'm not sure anyone else does. 307 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:30.879 Well, you know it's not funny. 308 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.320 Is I'll give you a kid because I've got enough 309 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.159 to spare twelve children with three women. 310 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:37.200 Oh, it's unbelievable. 311 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.279 It's like, how is that to your kids? 312 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:39.399 Like? 313 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.440 What what message is that to your kids? 314 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:42.320 Right? 315 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:44.480 If I'm one of his kids and he's like making 316 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:46.919 a joke about giving me away or giving one. 317 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:47.840 Of us, I don't know. 318 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:49.679 It's I don't know is he giving her, is he 319 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:53.519 giving one of his? Or is he offering to perhaps 320 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.679 help her get pressed. Oh God, that's even worse. It's 321 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:57.159 even worse. 322 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.799 Well, September is suicide Prevention Month, and one of our 323 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:06.080 KFI family members, Deborah Mark, has really put herself and 324 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:10.480 her story out there to help. Along with this effort, 325 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:16.519 Deborah and Jacob and Steve put together a report on 326 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.679 Suicide Prevention Month and what it means and when you 327 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:24.480 have a personal story, it always means that much more. 328 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:28.799 And so we heard this yesterday. Amy King has played 329 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.200 it on Wake Up Call. John Cobalt played it yesterday 330 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.559 as well. It's very moving, it is very powerful. And 331 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.840 so this is Deborah's report on Suicide Prevention Month. 332 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.399 And experts say suicide remains one of the leading causes 333 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:44.519 of death Nationally. 334 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:48.399 We've seen a continual increase in the number of people 335 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:53.559 dying by suicide, with approximately fifty thousand people dying by suicide, 336 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.559 and here in California we have about four thousand people 337 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:58.000 dying by suicide each year. 338 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.799 Sherry Sinwelski is with dd HER Mental Health Services. In 339 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.240 twenty twenty, there were eight hundred twenty nine suicides in 340 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:08.839 La County, making it the eighth leading cause of death, 341 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.240 and officials say more than thirty three hundred people tried 342 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:13.880 to kill themselves that same year. 343 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:17.440 It's a combination of stressors. It can be mental illness 344 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:20.960 that they're struggling with particular things that are happening in 345 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.200 their life. You know, we're still coming off of the 346 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:27.200 pandemic where there was a lot of isolation. People of course, 347 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:32.480 are facing financial constraints sometimes and all different types of 348 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.960 events that are impacting their personal lives, and I think 349 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.799 that those stressors have gotten more intense. 350 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:47.839 Well, a younger brother died by suicide twenty one years ago. 351 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.519 That's Rick Mogel. The death of his brother would be 352 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.119 the start of his journey as a bereavement counselor at 353 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:58.200 DDE hirsh Did you ever feel embarrassed or did you 354 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:02.440 ever feel uncomfortable or concerned about what people would say 355 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:04.839 when you told them what happened to your brother. 356 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:09.599 No, I was very forthcoming, shouting from the rooftops because 357 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:13.440 I didn't want anybody to feel that first of all 358 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:17.599 that had suicide to find him, nor did it defind me. 359 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.319 But Rick says, if you're not comfortable talking about the 360 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.400 details of a loved one's suicide, then don't we have. 361 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.160 Every right to say to somebody who wants to all 362 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.599 the details that you have every right to say to somebody. 363 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.519 It's too painful and I don't want to talk about it. 364 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.279 So how are you doing? First of all, this is 365 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:44.519 Joey going good. 366 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:46.359 So I fell into. 367 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.640 Massive, deep depression in twenty thirteen after my marriage fell 368 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:51.920 a part. 369 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:54.400 I met up with him at Northridge Park, a place 370 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:56.359 he used to come to when he wanted to hide 371 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.119 from people. This is actually the first time he's been 372 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.079 back here since you. I tried to kill himself in 373 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.680 twenty sixteen. He had moved into his parents' home after 374 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:05.759 his marriage ended. 375 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.079 So I tried to hang myself and I was out. 376 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:11.440 Who found you? 377 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:14.319 I woke up and I heard my dad knock on 378 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.960 the door, and I don't know why there's no locks 379 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.880 on my parents' doors. I don't know why he didn't 380 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.680 come in, and I was on the ground and he said, 381 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:27.519 Joey okay, and I didn't wanted to see me, And 382 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:28.440 I said, Dad, I'm. 383 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:29.240 Fine, I'm fine. 384 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.119 And that was that. I never told anybody for four years, nobody. 385 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:38.799 My thought was I was a burden. 386 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:40.440 And that. 387 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:46.559 I had nothing to give, that I had no hope 388 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.200 that I had no purpose and that every would be 389 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:54.799 better off if I wasn't around because I wasn't productive, 390 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:57.880 I wasn't doing anything. So my thought process was. 391 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:02.319 Will be better for everyone? 392 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.960 I asked Joey if he ever thought about the people 393 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:06.119 he would leave behind. 394 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.519 I'm telling you that I thought I was committing an 395 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:09.400 unselfish act. 396 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:12.720 I thought I was doing something that would relieve everybody 397 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:18.279 of pain. That's what I thought, And you can tell 398 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.480 me it was selfish of me to do it, but 399 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:23.000 I will tell you I didn't look at it that way. 400 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.440 So when I hear people say this was such a 401 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.880