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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets.

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Speaker 2: It's Oh Behaved with Arden More, this show that teaches

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you how to have harmony in the household with your pets.

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Join Ardna. She travels coast to coast to help millions

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better understand why cats and dogs do what they do.

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Get that latest scoop on famous spaces, they're perfectly pampered pets,

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pet experts and best selling authors to television and movie stars.

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You'll get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and tails

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Garner great pet tips and have a dog one fer

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flying fun time. So get ready for the paws and

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applause as we unleaseh your Oh Behave hosts America's pet

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edutainer Arden Moore.

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Speaker 3: Buther up pet pals.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Old Behave show on Pet Life Radio.

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I'm your host, Arden Moore, one of the world's top

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champions for cats, especially those with holmes. It's our special

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guest today. She unifies cat advocates, works with shelters, and

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develops technology to truly make this a twenty first century

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pursuit of bringing out the best in cats. Yes, I

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did say persuits.

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Speaker 3: Come on, guys, you know me.

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Speaker 4: Please welcome back to our show and proudly sporting the

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title of headcat for Community Cats Central Stacy Leberon Welcome, Welcome, Stacy.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Arden. It's always a pleasure to chat

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with you. It's fun, not just a pleasure, but fun too.

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Speaker 4: Well, you got some big muse Yes, I'm just full

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of puns today. Big news. For many, many years, people

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know have been following you as the Community Cats Podcast,

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and it's amazing, over five hundred episodes, great topics, great guests,

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but you have expanded your goals. Please tell us what

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does it mean now that it's called Community Cats Central? Right?

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Speaker 3: I am so excited to share that we are now

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called Community Cat Central, which does not mean the podcast

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is going away. We have over now over six hundred

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episodes of the podcast and we're going to keep We're

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going to keep going, going going, as long as there's stories,

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as you know from the news world, as long as

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there's stories, we're going to still have a podcast. And

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so I have all confidence that the stories are going

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to continue and folks are going to continue to turn

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their passion for cats into action. But we really felt

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over the years that we needed Community Cats Central something

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more than a podcast, because we'd become more than a podcast.

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We were doing over thirty online events, and we wanted

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to be able to also provide some online education. So

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we've crafted this whole e learning center at Community Cats Central,

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which has memberships, it has access to all of our events,

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that has online and on demand events. It's all virtual.

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I want to be able to have education for someone

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in Ireland. We have a person in Ireland that is

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a Community Cat passholder. We want to be global. Cats

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are everywhere. If cats are everywhere, we should be everywhere, right,

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and so we want it to be accessible, affordable, be

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able to touch anyone who's out there who wants to

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turn that passion for cats into action, you know, including

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you Arden. We're collaborating with you on a great projects.

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And you've been a long time attendee and speaker at

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our Online Behavior Day. So yeah, and we're gonna do

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some consulting. We got some.

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Speaker 4: Really fun things going on down the road.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, it's not great. I am so jazzed. Come on,

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this is like global.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna dive into this a little bit more.

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We got to take a quick break, so you guys

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know the drill. We got to sit per We'll be

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right back.

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Speaker 3: Time for a pause for very ones.

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Speaker 2: Actually sit and stay all behave. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk pets on Petlifradio dot com. All behaves back

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with more tail wagging ways to achieve harmony of old

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with your pets, Now back to your fetching host, America's

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pet edutainer, art and more.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the.

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Speaker 4: Old Behave show on pet Life Radio. I'm your host,

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Arden Moore. Got a great gal here. Her name is

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Stacy Leberon and she has a global group that is

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helping cats all over and it used to be just

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simply called Community Cats Podcast, but it was always more

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than just the podcast. It's online learning, as you said,

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and then you have been quiet. You've been very quiet

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for anybody on some things and behind the scenes, and

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it's because you can let the big news out of

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the bag. I don't want to put a cat in

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a bag. Let's just put big news in the bag

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and take it out. And the Community Cats Central, So

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we're going to dive into more because you do online conferences,

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you do online e learning, but you know, I think

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people now want to be able to learn anywhere on

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their own preference, right, So the secret to e learning

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and how does that apply to helping us help cats?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we have all of these certification programs. So

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we have partnered with organizations like Neighborhood Cats and the

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National Kit and Coalition on a series of certification programs,

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especially Neighborhood Cats. We've been running these TNR TRAP New

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Return certification workshops. It's about a three hour session. You

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take a test at the end and people get their certificate.

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they know what a cat trap is and they're not

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trying to just take a feral cat and shove it

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in a carrier or try and you know, carry it

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in in a towel or whatever. You know, we know

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how to handle those cats that really need a different

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approach with regards to how to be brought into a

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veterinarian and trying to have it be this collaborative community solution.

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that v in there with just vaccinate t n VR culture.

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Everyone individuals know what an ear tip is. You were

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talking earlier before we started about an ear tip and

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you know what that means, but not many people know

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what that means. And well, so here you are, you're

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on all behaved, let it out. So if you see

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a cat with an ear tip on the left ear,

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a little flat cut, it means a cat has been

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spade or neutered and probably has at least one rabi's

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vaccine and maybe a distemper vaccine and its arsenal of

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health services carrying going with that cat. If you're in

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California or Oregon or the state of Washington, that ear

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tip will be on the right hand side. I didn't

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know that, and so you'll have the ear tip on

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the right hand side. But if it's a little flat cut,

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if it doesn't look like the cat's been on a

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fight and it's an ear, you know when ear, you know,

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or cauliflower ears. If you have frostbite, they get those

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little cauliflower ears. But if it's a flat cut, it

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means that cat it's probably spader neutered and has had

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some level of vaccine. So there is what's called TNR

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to create TNR culture that we have in our community.

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to handle community cats that are coming in from outside

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in traps. So my dream is that you know, everybody

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just knows that this is what we do to help

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cats that are outside, and we know how to identify

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a cat that's not a cat that's meant to go

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and do have any stats about where you people have

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come to take these online and how many you've you've

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Speaker 3: So we have over five thousand certified TNR folks. Many

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Michigan because with the Neighborhood Cats Partnership along with All

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you are T and R certified, you get access to

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more affordable space hooter services as well as getting access

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to free trap rentals, so you'll get access to that equipment.

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groups in California, another group in Hawaii, and so we

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have what are called group partners so you can actually

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go into this new site and purchase a group package

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for your volunteers to become educated and TNR certified, so

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that then they can decide, you know, do they want

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a volunteer. Some people don't even know, like sometimes when

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you trap a cat, it'll flip out right, it'll get

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a little bit agitated in the trap and you need

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to cover it. Some people don't know that, and it's

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really not their cup of tea. It's okay. That's what

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Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like people start with the premise of

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having a good heart. They want to help. They think

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a cat in trouble. They don't know is this a someone's.

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Speaker 3: Cat that got out, or is this a cat that.

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ear tipping, so people need to know what is a

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community cat? No, I live in Dallas. I feed three

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you Arden. Oh, so do you know do you know

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if anyone else feeds your community cats? Yes, because we

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the cats, and we kind of talk together. So there's

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programs like next door and local communities. That's the way

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I know it. Also, I walk my dogs and I

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see my community cats chowing down three doors down two

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waving at me saying delicious.

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Speaker 3: I get double helpings.

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Speaker 4: So did I answer your question? You did?

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Speaker 3: You did?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 3: The definition of community cat is really, I mean, their

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origin story really is with Adam and Eve. Oh you know,

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so Adam, and we're cool on biblical folks. I know,

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in two different houses. Cats have been domesticated and they

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released out into the wild, whether it's abandonment or getting

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lost or you know, many folks have indoor outdoor cats

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and things happen, and if they were not spade or neutered,

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there's a farther range that they go, and so, you know,

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some of those cats, then if they have kittens, they'd

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become what we used to think of as feral kittens

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born in the wild. Yes, and so they're basically these

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cats that have grown up and they have no designated

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owner and they haven't known a home to be an

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indoor environment. They've known their home to be only outdoors

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and that's what they're comfortable with. And many people feed

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community cats. Sixty percent of people say they feed cats,

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but they don't know who owns the cats. And so

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the thing that we want to ensure is that community

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cats are those that were born out there that are

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comfortable being out there. It's their environment. And it could

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be a cat that was born in a house that's

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out there. You know, maybe they're comfortable having five different homes,

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you know, to feed from, and so you know, it's

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this very gray area in determining what's right. So I

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define a community cat as four paws on the ground outside.

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Oh there you go. It's a cat that's outside and

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it's like a free for all. Right, So we know

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that many people have indoor outdoor cats. Well, you know,

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when they're outside, we don't have control over what those

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cats are doing. So they become part of that outdoor community.

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down the street even though they have an owner. They

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Our cats are community connectors. You know, your neighbors because

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of those cats. That's a good point. You're not borrowing

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sugar from your neighbors anymore because Amazon can deliver it

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to you in two hours, right, But you are connecting

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with them because of the cats. And so they are

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to fix you know, can we all pitch in and

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make this, you know possible because ve care is super

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expensive Arden. Oh yeah.

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couple of years, this cat would come out of the bushes,

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this black and white cat and walk with our dogs

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lets us touch him. His ear was tipped and we

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and he wants to get within a foot of us.

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live in. Please keep things well. And you're Petio. We

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opened it up for him and he loves our dogs.

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but he does not want to come in. So I

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it's hard. It's hard because he goes off and you

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Speaker 4: That's a good point. Yeah, letting them go.

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Speaker 3: How thought you liked me? You don't like me anymore? Right,

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Speaker 4: Here's Harden, Welcome back to the old Behaved show on

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pet Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Got one

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of my favorite people, and that is Stacy Lebern. I

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love your title headcat of Community cats Central. Now that's

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a pretty cool title.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it. I love it, and that's great.

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I think other people love it. And then we have

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Kristin Petrie who's been yeah for ten years, who's our

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technical tabby. And so if you check out that website,

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our new website at Community Cat Central, I will say

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it is Kristen's labor of love. So she was the designer,

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she was the implementer. So a huge shout out to Kristin,

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who's been my partner over the last ten years, and

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there would have been no podcast without Kristen, So just

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want to put a little two cents out there for her. Sheildlaz.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we go to Community Cats Central now and

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I wanted to ask you because you know, people are

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using platforms now and teaching courses that are self paced,

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so people can learn anytime, anywhere, but you have backups

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to verify that they actually didn't just turn it on

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and go watch you know, stranger things. So there's got

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to be some things in place because people want education

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and organizations want people volunteers and staff that verify that

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they're learning from a great, reputable company like you. So

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can you talk about this launch because that that's a

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pretty big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So we have in the Community Cat Central space,

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we have on demand learning, we have live sessions. It's

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all on a think Ethic platform, so everybody will have

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their own educational student portal, so when you've taken one

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of our sessions, it will be saved under the student's name,

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so it really is like you're part of a Community

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Cat university when you log in for the first time. Okay, cool,

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and we want everything, so you know, anything that any

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person could think about there that they needed help with

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with regards to the topic of cat, especially with a

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focus on community cats. But I feel that that can

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cover everybody. Almost We wanted to be there for them.

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this because I couldn't find a resource to help me, right,

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So I'm here to serve the needs educationally for anybody

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that really wants to do anything for cats, you know,

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including you know Arden your You have experience in the

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online learning space too. You are like the CPR pro

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out there for cats and dogs and you know, and

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again we're collaborating together on that, getting those experts in

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each category and topic to present on all things cats.

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Speaker 4: Did you sleep? You didn't get any catnaps last year?

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: And Kristin now christ we started this journey back in July.

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We actually started made this decision back in July, and

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that the journey has been going since then. And I

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would say Kristen's the one who's had less sleep than

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I have. But but it's really amazing and I just

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fully believe that if we can give folks the toolkit

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of the things that they need, that they're going to

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be able to just blossom. That's what we are. We're

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sprouters arden, We're blossomers. You know. We play at the seeds,

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but then we let them grow, right, We let the

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garden grow, you know, we launch the grasshoppers right out there,

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and that's what we want. You know, cats and kittens.

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as many community cat passionate people as there are kittens.

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number of cats to passionate cat people one to one

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and then we'll be all fine.

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but it does take a colony. I didn't say a village,

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a colony to help cats. But who have been some

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of your personal heroes? Yeah, well of course. Well I

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think I'm on the board of the United Stpay Alliance.

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And I don't know if you've heard about Line fixed

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by five, but in February it'll be its ten year

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anniversary of the Feline Fixed by five campaign, And so

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if every veterinarian out there just moved the date for

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Spain Hooter from six months down to five months. We

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would be eliminating the kitten over population situation in shelters,

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which has been a hot topic this year. That fifty

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under the age of six months, and so it's the kittens,

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the neonatals, the ones that really need emergency care that

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are ending up being euthanized. So how do we really

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prevent those from being born?

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Speaker 3: So Esther Meckler is a hero of mine for starting

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United Spa Alliance and Feline Fixed by five, as well

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as Peter marsh who really helped me think through the

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cativer population situation. So I can go into a community

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and help consult with them and we'll do a little

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cat math. I have a four hour cat math course.

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I do no, no, not cat geometry, no, and well

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in four hours it's strategic planning for three to five

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five years and four hours, you know, I'll get them

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on a plan. Within three to five years, they will

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be at a balanced level for their cat population in

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the community and they're not going to be like freaking

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out and overwhelmed with cats. Will give me a little

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cat math stat nya cat math set. Well, so I

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would say in general, I can give you a light.

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We have a calculator. We have a community Cat calculator

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on our website along with the Community Cat Pyramid, which

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talks about the strategy, the overall strategy that really we

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need to look at owned cats. We need to do

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more spay neoter for owned cats. We need to increase

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our spae neuter capacity. So in a community of like

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one hundred and twenty five thousand people population based, you

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most likely on an annual basis to get ahead of

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the game, will need to spay neuter or anywhere from

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fifteen hundred to two thousand cats a year. And so yeah,

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so that's just giving you a sort of a ballpark figure.

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But you do a community cat's needs assessment and it'll

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help you really be able to determine the needs of

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your munity depending on what you've already got. Some places

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are considered spain nooter deserts. I don't know if you've

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heard that term. What is it? So a spein nooter

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desert is an area where there's very obvious limited veterinary

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care in that community. So there's a map out there,

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veterinary access map that identifies parts of the country that

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are really short handed with regards to veterinarians. The rural

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areas are extremely compromised at this point in time. Finding

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veterinarians to work in rural areas is really hard, and

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so that becomes really hard for folks to be able

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to get their pets the veteran care they need as

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well as you know, spader neutered, which creates oops litters.

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So hats off the United spae Alliance.

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Speaker 4: Any other heroes. I don't know your mom, I don't

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know somebody that really inspired you to get into the

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field of helping cats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So these journeys are so funny because I started

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it out by just walking up the stairs of a

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small little shelter with my pound bag of cat litter

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and my twenty pound bag of dry cat food, and

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I thought, oh, this will take care of them for

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a week. Right, you know, I'm walking in there and

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they had just taken in a hoarding situation. So they

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had like one room with like sixty cats on top

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of two filing cabinets, and it was like the cat

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pyramid of cats, right, And I'm like, oh wow, so

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this is just not my you know, I just didn't

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know what I was doing right, this is crazy. They're

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my heroes, They're my leaders.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The more people I meet on this journey, I'm like,

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I want to help you. I walked in, I was like, Okay,

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this is just you know, what can I do to help?

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I don't like needles, so I'm not in that space,

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but it's like, how can I help? So I guess

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my journey each way, because then I'm like, oh, I

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need to help you and need to assist you. So

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I really just think everybody out there on the front

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line the two am in the morning, trapping the two

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am in the morning, feeding the bottle babies.

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Speaker 4: Boy, that's a job I don't want, all right, And

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just for fun, what did you want to be when

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you were growing up? And where was childhood and what

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was the thought process of a young Stacy?

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Speaker 3: Well, I grew up in Massachusetts and I had a

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cat that was seven years older than me that was

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kind of on the grumpy side. So she definitely taught

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me very early on about respecting personal space. What was

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her name? Dumpcan because when my parents got her as

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a kit and they were told that it was a

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boy cat, and then they brought her to the vet

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and they discovered she was a girl cat back then,

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I mean that was in nineteen sixty one, and they

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got her spade before six months of age, so that

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was kind of cool. So I always thought you got

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your cats fixed. I never thought that that wouldn't happen.

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So that was in my DNA. And I wanted to

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be an architect, an architect.

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Speaker 4: Okay, is there anybody in your family that was an

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architect or were you just a whiz at legos?

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Speaker 3: I mean what, yeah, no, My well, my mom really

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loved art. She was an artist, a painter as a hobby,

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and I just we both love driving around town and

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looking at architecture. We thought it was so interesting learning

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about the different architects out there. Frank Lloyd Wright especially

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was one of our favorites. Well, I grew up near Chicago,

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so he was big there for sure, definitely. And then

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I ended up graduating with a degree in urban studies

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and I also had nonprofit management, public policy, and urban

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planning in my sort of my toolkit. And then what

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I use is the cat as like that avenue for

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sort of looking at our urban welfare and societal welfare.

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So you know, an example is adult girl or you know,

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early twenties girls throws kitten down the stairs. Right, seven

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year old boy picks up kitten, brings kitten over to

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the volunteers you're feeding those cats at the feeding station

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to say, can you help get help for this kitten?

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And of course they say yes. And he said, you know,

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because you're here, I know I can ask for help.

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And so maybe then if something else is happening in

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his household that's problematic, he will know to trust others

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to ask for help. So I think of our cats

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as this sort of gluing tool with society to help

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us rebuild trust.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I love that we always ask our guests.

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And you get this question, what is some attribute, some traits,

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some characteristic of a cat you wish you had? And

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why characteristic of a cat that I think I can do?

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Speaker 3: God? Agility? Ooh, okay, I play tennis. I play tennis

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and I love sports, and so the things that I

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see that cats can do, if I could leap and

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jump and fly, my serve would be so good. Bolton

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I would be at Wimbledon right exactly, so I think

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I'd have to say agility.

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Speaker 4: All right. We want people to know how to get

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their pause on more information about you, Stacy Leberon and

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Community Cats Central tell us how they can do that.

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Speaker 3: The best place to go is just to our website

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is at Community Cat Central communitycats central dot com. I

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don't worry if you forget the s it'll still find

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us anyway. But Communitycatscentral dot com. We're also on Facebook

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and Instagram. We're still at Community Cats Podcast on the

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social media links and I am Stacy at Communitycatcentral dot com.

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Is my email and we are very responsive. I do

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not want to let anyone feel like they've been left behind,

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so please, I think of myself as the cat Connector,

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and if you've got a question and you're not getting

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an answer, feel free to reach out to me, because

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I'm pretty stubborn about that. I will help find you

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a solution.

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Speaker 4: All right. We salute all that you and the team

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are doing for cats, Stacy Leberon. At this time, also,

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I want to do a shout out to my producer,

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Mark Winter. He produces all the shows on the largest

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pet network, pet Life Radio. And humbly you're listening to

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obehave voted the best podcasts and the winner of the

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President's Award by the Cat Writers Association, So that's a

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big deal. And as Stacy alluded to, my whatever superpower,

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my drive is to help keep cats and dogs safe.

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So I hope you check out pet First Date for

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you because they feature real dog and a real cat,

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Kna and Casey, and we now have a dog in

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training Nova six toest so we are trying to do

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everything we can to help pet safe. Everything is veterinary approved,

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So until next time, this is your a flea free

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host are more delivering just two words to all you

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two three and four layers out there.

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