Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great American, and welcome to someone ran
Speaker 1: the afternoon the tri State this Monday afternoon. Thank god
Speaker 1: Red Spaceball is off, but back out of Tuesday, Wednesday
Speaker 1: and Thursday against the Chicago White Sox, the favorite team
Speaker 1: of Leo the fourteenth. There's fourteen again is the Chicago
Speaker 1: White Sox. In fact, I've you had some time google
Speaker 1: Pope Leo at the White Sox game and Fox Sports
Speaker 1: during a cutaway in between pitches in twenty oh five
Speaker 1: when the White Sox are beating up on the Houston Astronomicals.
Speaker 1: At that point they were in the National League, and
Speaker 1: they had a cutout in which they had Pope Leo
Speaker 1: the fourteenth in the stands cheering on the White Sox.
Speaker 1: This is twenty years ago, sitting next to his brother
Speaker 1: and his nephew. But until then, joyaan you and I
Speaker 1: now is Senator John Eustead of the Great State of
Speaker 1: Ohio and Senator Houstead. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Before we talk about drug pricing and tariffs, tariffs and
Speaker 1: trade of Ukraine, Gaza, Indian Pakistan, give me your comments
Speaker 1: on Leo the fourteenth. Who's a fan of the Chicago
Speaker 1: White Sox and also an Eagles fan. The White Sox
Speaker 1: win the World Series, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: What's your comments about the Pope?
Speaker 2: We love the Pope, don't we.
Speaker 3: You know, I saw something the other day. I thought
Speaker 3: this was hilarious. Is this typical Chicago? They said, you know,
Speaker 3: we had Walter Payton, they had Michael Jordan, they have
Speaker 3: Oprah Winfrey, Mike Dickka.
Speaker 2: Now god, all from Chicago.
Speaker 4: So it was.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's Chicago, man, right there.
Speaker 1: We have coming to America. We have the Olympics, we
Speaker 1: have the World Cup, we have the Pope, and we
Speaker 1: got Donald Trump. Those are the foreheads.
Speaker 5: Of Golden Age, the Golden Age of America.
Speaker 1: And I'm watching this and I watched the Trump so
Speaker 1: this morning about drug costs, et cetera. So, Senator to
Speaker 1: you said, I think there was some reporting that you
Speaker 1: were with the President and the White House on Friday
Speaker 1: discussing this issue with him. First of all, can you
Speaker 1: explain the problem why we pay so much more than
Speaker 1: any country in the world and what the Trump still
Speaker 1: is going to do about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, quickly, I was at the White House on Friday
Speaker 3: because the President signed my first bill into law, which
Speaker 3: is a regulatory repeal of Biden error regulations on household appliances,
Speaker 3: trying to we wanted to drive down the cost, give
Speaker 3: more consumer choice. So I was there for that and
Speaker 3: he said, well, what do you think about the prescription
Speaker 3: drug issue? And I said he said, he said, we
Speaker 3: need most Favored Nation status. We need to pay the
Speaker 3: best prices that these drug companies are given other countries
Speaker 3: because we're subsidizing the rest of the world. And well,
Speaker 3: that's absolutely right. American taxpayers, American consumers have been paying
Speaker 3: astronomically higher prices on prescription drugs than the rest of
Speaker 3: the world. And he's trying to bring it into that,
Speaker 3: by the way, not to give America a better deal,
Speaker 3: just to give America a fair deal, the same prices
Speaker 3: that everybody else is paying.
Speaker 1: Tony Bender wants to know, why do we pay five, six,
Speaker 1: seven times more than any other country. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about Africa, We're not talking about subse Ara. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Germany, England, France, Italy, talking about South Korea, China.
Speaker 1: How come we pay so much?
Speaker 5: There's no good reason.
Speaker 3: They will suggest that the drug companies will suggest. I
Speaker 3: read them this morning that they said, well, it's because
Speaker 3: we have to pay for the R and D. Well,
Speaker 3: the R and D should be paid for by everyone.
Speaker 3: Spread it across the whole globe. Give Americans a fair
Speaker 3: price on these drugs. I want to continue to support
Speaker 3: research and development, but it shouldn't be completely on the
Speaker 3: backs of the American consumer.
Speaker 1: Now, at some point, the five or six drug companies
Speaker 1: there's stocks this money afternoon are quite a bit down
Speaker 1: because they recover all their expenses from the American consumer
Speaker 1: and then they pass on the same drugs in the
Speaker 1: same formula and the same packaging all around the world
Speaker 1: at little or no expense. And it's one thing. If
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of Africa that poor those people
Speaker 1: need help, but not the EU. There's twenty nine nations
Speaker 1: in the EU that negotiate the price they pay for
Speaker 1: all these miracle drugs that we create, and it's lower,
Speaker 1: lower and lower. And the big farmer can get away
Speaker 1: with it because they think the puts the American consumer
Speaker 1: will pay out landings prices for pharmaceuticals. And then you
Speaker 1: got Medicare, Medicaid also, And the President said this morning
Speaker 1: he's going to tell the congressional leaders has scored differently
Speaker 1: the prescriptive drug expenses paid for by Medicare and Medicaid. Now,
Speaker 1: this may take three to six months. But for those
Speaker 1: that are somewhat shall we say, not involved in this
Speaker 1: or are thinking about other issues like do we have
Speaker 1: enough Barbie dolls? I mean, if you're a six year
Speaker 1: old girl of Barbie dolls important from China, I guess
Speaker 1: this is a national policy on drug costs with what
Speaker 1: the real confidence do you think this is going to work?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I think that you know President's trend and executive order.
Speaker 3: If you recall in the past, drug companies have sued
Speaker 3: him when he tried this in his first term, and
Speaker 3: we're successful at stopping him from doing it. But it's look,
Speaker 3: it's an example of leadership calling to attention and America
Speaker 3: first policy. Again, he's talking about giving America as good of.
Speaker 5: A deal as.
Speaker 3: Canada and Germany, you know, not about as you said,
Speaker 3: sub Saharan Africa. This is not about the lowest price.
Speaker 3: This is just this is actually we want to pay
Speaker 3: the highest price that everybody else pays. That's not exactly
Speaker 3: a radical, crazy move by the president. It is it
Speaker 3: is a common sense move by the President to say
Speaker 3: American consumers and taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for
Speaker 3: R and D for drug companies.
Speaker 2: Around the globe.
Speaker 3: And we're going to see a lot of pushback from
Speaker 3: from the companies in the court. But look, this is
Speaker 3: it's time that we healthcare inflation is the highest of
Speaker 3: any sector of the economy in the twenty first century,
Speaker 3: and we've got to start pushing back on it. That's
Speaker 3: what these conversations about medicaid have been about. How are
Speaker 3: we going to control the prices that are un consumer
Speaker 3: and taxpayer.
Speaker 1: No, we can't keep doing this. Since twenty nineteen, uh,
Speaker 1: the cost of medical care to the federal government's gone
Speaker 1: up forty percent, and the last five years forty percent.
Speaker 1: Do that another five years another forty percent. Hell, we're
Speaker 1: out of business. Let's talk about the big bill.
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. We're
Speaker 6: paying over a trillion dollars a year in interest payments
Speaker 6: on it. It's not sustainable. America needs to stop, you know,
Speaker 6: financing the rest of the world. We need to be
Speaker 6: treated fairly and we need to not pass on this debt.
Speaker 3: To future generations. That's generational theft bill and we shouldn't
Speaker 3: stand for it.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the big beautiful bill in a moment.
Speaker 1: What about the China situation, The President said this morning
Speaker 1: he has an agreement from the communist red Chinese to
Speaker 1: quit killing about one hundred thousand Americans every year through
Speaker 1: the precursors defense. Noel said, we're also to quit ripping
Speaker 1: us off. Our products can't get there, but their products
Speaker 1: get here. What's the key parts of the agreement?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: I suppose with communists right China, who I trust as
Speaker 1: far as I can throw them on the tariff relief
Speaker 1: in order to let our products go into China and
Speaker 1: Chinese products have to pay a price to come into America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have not had a chance to go through
Speaker 3: all the details yet. Basically, there's a sort of a
Speaker 3: ninety day pause.
Speaker 5: To continue to work on some of these agreements.
Speaker 3: I think the top tariff rates now going to be
Speaker 3: thirty percent for Chinese products coming into America. I think
Speaker 3: it's ten percent for American products going into China.
Speaker 5: But this has been a long time in commune.
Speaker 3: Since China entered the World Trade Organization in two thousand
Speaker 3: and one, they've been ripping off not only America but
Speaker 3: the rest of the world through unfair trade practices and
Speaker 3: stealing our technology and American businesses. When I visit with them, Bill,
Speaker 3: they say, yes, if you don't stand up for US
Speaker 3: federal government, who will Because we have no recourse in
Speaker 3: the Chinese courts the way that a Chinese company would
Speaker 3: in the American courts. They steal our stuff, we can't
Speaker 3: do anything about it. And President Trump has come in
Speaker 3: and said, hey, we're not going to tolerate it anymore.
Speaker 3: No president before him was willing to stand up to them,
Speaker 3: and it's time that we get this accomplished on behalf
Speaker 3: of the American consumer and taxpayer.
Speaker 1: In the Senator used to the American business for that man,
Speaker 1: American business. I watched the performances of Canadian Kevin o'larry
Speaker 1: from Shark Tank about the amount of theft by the
Speaker 1: communist red Chinese of American ideas, American personnel, American it.
Speaker 1: The theft absolutely happening, and there's no recourse. Somebody can't
Speaker 1: go to a court in Beijing and sue for theft
Speaker 1: of ip etc. But in America they're buying up farm
Speaker 1: land all around our air force bases. It's got to stop.
Speaker 1: And I think one thing, Senator is the communist red
Speaker 1: Chinese and the Russians and the North Koreans wod like
Speaker 1: to run out the clock. They're kind of hoping that
Speaker 1: the next president is going to be a printer and
Speaker 1: they're just waiting to all right, quiet down, the American
Speaker 1: people are gonna have mid term elections. You know, the
Speaker 1: Chinese don't worry about mid term elections. Are you worried
Speaker 1: about the idea between the media and the democratic establishment
Speaker 1: and the Congress and minority leaders in both being Democrats,
Speaker 1: that they're gonna The Chinese might say, let's run out
Speaker 1: the clock and see what happens.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you're making an excellent point right there.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt that China doesn't have to respond to
Speaker 3: an electorate. They can take as long as they want
Speaker 3: to negotiate.
Speaker 5: They can drag this out.
Speaker 3: This has been one of the problems that American presidents
Speaker 3: have had in negotiating with these dictators in authoritarian governments
Speaker 3: is that they can be there as long as they want.
Speaker 5: They don't have to cut a deal.
Speaker 3: We have to be answerable as public officials to the
Speaker 3: American public and and that happens every two in four years.
Speaker 3: So we've you know, we've got to we've got to
Speaker 3: go quickly. That's why I think President's seeing a sense
Speaker 3: of urgency on this. I want to say just a
Speaker 3: couple of quick stories.
Speaker 5: I'll use this one example.
Speaker 3: There was a there was a guy in Dover, Ohio
Speaker 3: who said, Hey, I wanted to sell my products to
Speaker 3: Asia that I wanted to sell. I'm selling them, I'm
Speaker 3: making them in America, but I wanted to sell into Asia,
Speaker 3: and I had to produce it in Asia. China had
Speaker 3: me produce it there h to sell into China. And
Speaker 3: then the next thing I know, a product that's exactly
Speaker 3: like mine has been copied and it's being selled and
Speaker 3: sold in China and across Asia. He says, I have
Speaker 3: no recourse. They just stole my product and now they're
Speaker 3: making it there. Somebody needs to stand up for me.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of stuff that this is about protecting
Speaker 3: American businesses. Uh, standing up to the bullies who basically
Speaker 3: China has said, hey, we're gonna we're gonna give we
Speaker 3: want access to your markets.
Speaker 5: We're not going to give you access to our markets.
Speaker 3: We're going to steal your technology when we can uh,
Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 5: Got to stop.
Speaker 3: And you're right, we can't let him run out the clock, though,
Speaker 3: We've got to be forceful and get this done quickly.
Speaker 1: Cenator. This is an important point that I think that
Speaker 1: Trump's to address this morning. I had a friend of
Speaker 1: mine who developed a new way to put water into
Speaker 1: a mop and it was I forget the name of
Speaker 1: the product. Six or seven years ago. He was able
Speaker 1: to make this product in America for about twenty two
Speaker 1: dollars a mop and sell it for forty nine to
Speaker 1: ninety five at Target and some of the other stores,
Speaker 1: and Chinese came to him. Instead of you spending twenty
Speaker 1: two dollars, how about you spending two dollars and we'll
Speaker 1: produce the mop for two dollars and you still sell
Speaker 1: it for forty nine to ninety five, and we will
Speaker 1: finance a lot of your activities. My friend said, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's a great idea. Instead of producing it
Speaker 1: here at ten times the expense, I'll produce it in
Speaker 1: China and then one after about six months, and then
Speaker 1: producing it China went directly to the customers of my
Speaker 1: friend to sell them the mop and it got my
Speaker 1: buddy out of the business completely, had a foul bankruptcy.
Speaker 1: They stole the intellectual property. There was no way that
Speaker 1: he could go to a Chinese court for redress. And
Speaker 1: that's a small example what the communist red Chinese are doing.
Speaker 1: And they do it to millions of products every day.
Speaker 1: The undercut the market, capture it and then raise up
Speaker 1: the price to benefit them and not us. Is that
Speaker 1: a good example.
Speaker 3: That is a perfect example, and it's unfortunately it's not
Speaker 3: a rare example. This happens to people with ideas, manufacture,
Speaker 3: small business owners. It has for twenty five years.
Speaker 5: It's time for it to stop.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that big beautiful bill that's going
Speaker 1: to hopefully be passed. I know even John Fetterman has
Speaker 1: a few lucid moments recently. Tell the American people. Senator
Speaker 1: John houstaid, what's the two or three elements and the
Speaker 1: big beautiful bill that you're going to vote for?
Speaker 3: I hope, Well, I'm hopeful that we're going to get
Speaker 3: it done. And why do we need to get it done?
Speaker 3: Because it'll be over a four trillion dollar tax increase
Speaker 3: on the American.
Speaker 5: Public if we don't get it done.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 3: Number two, I'm hopeful that we're going to restore some
Speaker 3: fiscal sanity to the spending problem that America has and
Speaker 3: begin to move toward a more balanced budget. And then
Speaker 3: I hope to do some good thing for Ohio in there,
Speaker 3: like changing the way that our welfare system works to
Speaker 3: require people to work in exchange for public benefits.
Speaker 5: I hope that we can.
Speaker 3: End sugary snacks and drinks in our SNAP program that's
Speaker 3: leading to obesity and higher health care costs, particularly among
Speaker 3: the people who can lease afford it. So those are
Speaker 3: the things that we need to do in the big
Speaker 3: beautiful bill that I hope we can get past and
Speaker 3: on the President's desk sometime soon.
Speaker 1: What if you don't, But what if somehow the red
Speaker 1: Republican congressman went more salt state and local taxes deductions.
Speaker 1: What if other Republicans say, well, we're not going to
Speaker 1: increase the deficit borrowing by another five trillion dollars. There's
Speaker 1: reasons to do it. You have a very thin majority
Speaker 1: in both chambers. What happens to the taxpayer if it
Speaker 1: isn't passed.
Speaker 3: The taxes will go up on the American taxpayer by
Speaker 3: four trillion dollars.
Speaker 5: That's why I think it'll get done.
Speaker 3: Look, there'll be plenty of things in this bill I
Speaker 3: won't like, but you know that you've got to look
Speaker 3: at the big you know, the big picture here. Is
Speaker 3: there going to be a lot more in it that
Speaker 3: I liked and not like? Yes, of course there will be.
Speaker 3: We can't let taxes go up on the American taxpayer
Speaker 3: by four trillion dollars. We can't make American business less competitive,
Speaker 3: we can't tax working families more.
Speaker 5: And so that's why we got to get it done.
Speaker 3: And people will grumble and mumble, and they'll complain about
Speaker 3: this or that and the other thing. But in the end,
Speaker 3: you got to get the job done. And that means
Speaker 3: sometimes you're going to have to swallow some vinegar with
Speaker 3: your wine.
Speaker 1: Are you endorsing on different matter? Are you endorsing viveg
Speaker 1: Ramaswami for governor? You might know that on Friday you
Speaker 1: received one hundred percent of the votes of the Ohio
Speaker 1: Republican Executive Committee as an endorsement, and so did viveg Ramaswami.
Speaker 1: I think got ninety five percent of the votes. Are
Speaker 1: you going to support for veg Ramaswami Vak and I.
Speaker 3: Have been working together very closely. I look forward to
Speaker 3: running on the same ticket with him. I want him
Speaker 3: to be very successful and I'm sure that over the
Speaker 3: course of the next few months we'll have some things
Speaker 3: to team up on and talk to the Ohio voters about.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to be on the same ticket with him,
Speaker 3: hopefully driving for more Republican victories in twenty twenty six
Speaker 3: to keep this state on track, and to also make
Speaker 3: you know, make sure that Donald Trump has a Republican
Speaker 3: team to work with as we had beyond the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty sixth elections.
Speaker 1: And last, Lady Senator John Houstead of the Great State
Speaker 1: of Ohio. Do you see this as a rebuke to
Speaker 1: Governor Mike DeWine, who told his own executive committee not
Speaker 1: to do this because his looks on explainers.
Speaker 3: Look a people, this is we have disagreements. When you
Speaker 3: are part of the majority, it's hard to keep everybody.
Speaker 5: At the same page.
Speaker 3: I would say a majority is made up of many voices.
Speaker 5: If we want to be.
Speaker 3: A minority, we can all get along and never disagree.
Speaker 3: But if we want to be in a majority, sometimes
Speaker 3: we will disagree.
Speaker 2: But in the end we will come.
Speaker 3: Together, we will unite, and we will win in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six.
Speaker 1: All right, once again, the Junior center from Ohio is
Speaker 1: Senator John Houston. I'm glad you're with the President on
Speaker 1: Friday because we can have to stop bearing all the
Speaker 1: costs of prescriptive drugs and give it, give it away
Speaker 1: to the rest of the world, and Trumpster can get
Speaker 1: it done. Once again, Senator John Houston, welcome, Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Bill Cunningham Show, and
Speaker 1: John you're a great American. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more coming up my comments about the
Speaker 1: new Pope and also about the big beautiful Bill, and
Speaker 1: also the fact that if you buy prescriptive drugs and
Speaker 1: great pharmacies like Adrian Pharmacy, the best in Madeira, that
Speaker 1: somehow in the future you may pay less if the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party and the court system allow it. Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WW All right now, Billy cunning
Speaker 1: Him the great American coming up after one o'clock. Today's
Speaker 1: next from the Middle East to talk about what's happening there.
Speaker 1: And after two o'clock Keith O'Brien will be here. Wrote
Speaker 1: the book Charlie Hustle, which is the definitive work on
Speaker 1: Pete Rose. He's back once again because of Wednesday night's
Speaker 1: activities or replica Pete Rose Jersey. The only thing that
Speaker 1: left are the ten dollars standing soro tickets. That's it.
Speaker 1: It's going to be thirty five to forty thousand people
Speaker 1: to celebrate a baseball player who last played here almost
Speaker 1: forty years ago. Pete And has lasted about in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six, and of course he was the playing manager
Speaker 1: for the Reds and from about February of eighty nine
Speaker 1: until his death about six months ago. What a saga,
Speaker 1: the highest of highs, the lowest of lows, and Pete
Speaker 1: Rose failed at all and went through it all. An
Speaker 1: incredible story. And we're going to deal with that after
Speaker 1: two o'clock today plus Tomorrow plus Monday, and most of
Speaker 1: the crew is going to be at the Holy Grail
Speaker 1: starting about three pm on Wednesday afternoon and also the
Speaker 1: day that's when the NFL schedules released, So we got
Speaker 1: all hell breaking loose on Wednesday. Hopefully the weather will
Speaker 1: submit and do what's necessary. We hope the weather complies
Speaker 1: and has good weather, et cetera, which is more or
Speaker 1: less predicted. But beginning after after two o'clock today, you
Speaker 1: learn more about how would Pete Rose feel about this.
Speaker 1: Pete Rose would be excited as could be. One of
Speaker 1: his dreams was to have his casket at home plate
Speaker 1: and have Reds fans come by and celebrate his life.
Speaker 1: Not more or less happened a few months back. It
Speaker 1: was covered, but nonetheless, and now May fourteenth is there's
Speaker 1: out number again, fourteen. Like Leo, the fourteenth is Wednesday night,
Speaker 1: and it's rather ironic that the team they're playing is
Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox with the most famous player up
Speaker 1: to this point, Shueless Joe Jackson, band for so called
Speaker 1: betting on baseball. When Shoeless Joe Jackson did not but
Speaker 1: on baseball, and in fact he was indicted along with
Speaker 1: the other White Sox by grand jury's in Cook County, Chicago,
Speaker 1: and they were found not guilty. Then nonetheless, the commissioner
Speaker 1: banned them for life, even though it was somewhat clear
Speaker 1: the shoeless Joe Jackson's behavior on the field was commensurate
Speaker 1: with his skill set. He knew he had knowledge of
Speaker 1: what was going on, but he played as hard as
Speaker 1: he could be. He was indicted all kinds of charges
Speaker 1: and found not guilty, but still got banned for life,
Speaker 1: and he died a broken man in South Carolina. And
Speaker 1: Pete Rose had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to come clean.
Speaker 1: I know Marty Brennman talks about meetings with bud Sea
Speaker 1: League and Joe Morgan, his best buddy on the team,
Speaker 1: and Johnny Bench. They had a more or less a
Speaker 1: deal worked out. Pete, you got to do this, Pete,
Speaker 1: you got to do that, and Pete refused to do it.
Speaker 1: And finally Pete wrote a book, but in fact he
Speaker 1: admitted betting on baseball. And this saga, seemingly in my lifetime,
Speaker 1: will never end. And I here we are twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I first met Pete in nineteen sixty three, and here
Speaker 1: we are in twenty twenty five. I would not thought
Speaker 1: that was possible, what sixty sixty two years later. And
Speaker 1: I was honored to call him a friend for about
Speaker 1: two years of that process, when Pete had me throwing
Speaker 1: batting practice of the Reds pitchers and we played a
Speaker 1: lot of softball together with the Gary Waits course all
Speaker 1: Stars and played basketball together, and I hired his family
Speaker 1: members to work in my restaurants, and we went out together.
Speaker 1: I stayed with him at planned City and his home,
Speaker 1: and it was just I was just honored to be
Speaker 1: a friend of Pete Rose. And over the last few
Speaker 1: years I think has dissipated greatly. And then upon his
Speaker 1: death it was just the time to reflect upon all
Speaker 1: the things that might have been, of all the words
Speaker 1: of tongue or pen, the worst of these art might
Speaker 1: have been. And in Pete Rose's life talk about the
Speaker 1: highest of highs, the lowest the low's. There's a part
Speaker 1: of Keith Bryn's book when in October of nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: October nineteen nine, the Reds or had just swept the
Speaker 1: unbeatable Oakland A's with the best team in baseball obviously
Speaker 1: was Oakland. The bast Brothers, et cetera, Stewart on the
Speaker 1: mounted Eckersley had just a fabulous team, and the Reds
Speaker 1: largely because of Jose blaming on Rijo and Billy Hatcher,
Speaker 1: and of course of Barry Larkin, Todd Benzinger, Paul O'Neil,
Speaker 1: Glenn Braggs, Eric Davis, beat four straight the Oakland A's
Speaker 1: and think of the moment. At that time in October
Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety, Pete Rose was in a federal prison
Speaker 1: in Illinois, kind of watching the game on a small
Speaker 1: screen with other inmates in a federal prison. One could
Speaker 1: not imagine from September the eleventh, nineteen eighty five, when
Speaker 1: he broke the all time hits record forty one ninety two,
Speaker 1: finished up for forty two to fifty six, that that
Speaker 1: guy at first base as March shot in the river
Speaker 1: French Stadium is going absolutely bonkers and he's got tears
Speaker 1: in his eye. And Pete comes out and Tommy Helms,
Speaker 1: who just recently died number nineteen, did that that guy
Speaker 1: at first base getting a call from Ronald Reagan congratulating
Speaker 1: him on breaking Ty Cobb's record nineteen eighty five in August,
Speaker 1: that by October nineteen ninety he'd be sitting alone in
Speaker 1: the dark in a federal prison in Illinois. Impossible can't happen,
Speaker 1: but it did. And this the tragic story of a
Speaker 1: gambling addict that couldn't tell the truth until he was
Speaker 1: paid to do so. When he wrote a book and
Speaker 1: the most magnetic fun to be around. Take him, Joe Morgan,
Speaker 1: Johnny Bench, Marty Brenneman. That the best there was and
Speaker 1: that era is long gone. It's the golden age of baseball.
Speaker 1: Between nineteen seventy nine, the Reds played in twenty percent
Speaker 1: of all the World Series in those twenty years. You
Speaker 1: might recall in nineteen seventy they lost to Oakland. In
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two they lost to Baltimore. The Robinson Klan
Speaker 1: beat them. Then they go back in seventy five, seventy six,
Speaker 1: beat Boston Red Sox, then they beat they sweep the
Speaker 1: New York Yankees, the best team in baseball. Then they
Speaker 1: go back in nineteen ninety and to winning. So Cincinnati
Speaker 1: was the center of the baseball world, the dominant team
Speaker 1: over those twenty years, with five World Series appearances and
Speaker 1: three World Series titles, and they had the highest payroll
Speaker 1: in baseball. Like ninety two, ninety three, ninety four. Couldn't
Speaker 1: get there, got closed, couldn't get there. Here we are
Speaker 1: some thirty five years later. The Reds have not won
Speaker 1: a playoff series in the last thirty years. Last one
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five, the so called O. J. Simpson Series,
Speaker 1: when the Reds beat up on the Dodgers and the
Speaker 1: golden age of baseball. Absolutely, absolutely, it was bigger than NFL,
Speaker 1: bigger than the NBA or college football or basketball, and
Speaker 1: it was Major League Baseball. And now things are fundamentally different.
Speaker 1: So we will celebrate the memories that Pete Rose gave
Speaker 1: us all fabulous memories, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 1: For me watching Pete Rose and visiting him at a
Speaker 1: half way house on Vine Street, the federal judge sentenced
Speaker 1: them to prison. As if Pete Rose had to go
Speaker 1: to prison for nine months, eight nine months, and then
Speaker 1: he couldn't let him go, had to put him in
Speaker 1: a half way house with other drug addicts and other derelics.
Speaker 1: Half way house in Cincinnati, And I visited him there
Speaker 1: three or four times, and he gave me notes to
Speaker 1: do call this person, take care of that was all
Speaker 1: legal stuff. Can you hire family member? Absolutely and play
Speaker 1: a lot of golf together and baseball together the course
Speaker 1: all stars. I was honored to call him as my friend.
Speaker 1: As the ears ears rolled by that we didn't see
Speaker 1: each other a lot. One other sad moment, my wife
Speaker 1: and I are in Las Vegas, and I would think
Speaker 1: about fifteen eighteen years ago, and I said, let's go
Speaker 1: see Pete. He's on the sixth floor of this shopping mall,
Speaker 1: a part of Caesar's Palace. So we finally find where
Speaker 1: he is, outside of memorabilia store with a card table,
Speaker 1: sitting there in this beautiful facility, and I said, let's
Speaker 1: sit here. We've sat about fifty feet away and just
Speaker 1: watched Pete Rose signs up. Pete Rose signatures ten dollars,
Speaker 1: signed jerseys, thirty five dollars, et cetera. We sat there
Speaker 1: for ten to fifteen minutes and Pete Rose was on
Speaker 1: his phone scrolling and nobody noticed he was there at all.
Speaker 1: Walked by him and I said, you know, Penny, I
Speaker 1: just can't walk up to him. I just can't. It's
Speaker 1: sad to watch that. The Guy in nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: The Guy in nineteen sixty three took over from Don Blasingame.
Speaker 1: The Guy seventy seventy two World Series, seventy five, seventy six,
Speaker 1: seventy five MVP. Pete Rose beat the Red Sox, beat
Speaker 1: the Yankees, and then his team, the Paul O'Neal team,
Speaker 1: the Barry Larkin team, the Jose Rio team, the Eric
Speaker 1: Davis team, that team sweep the Oakland A's, and Pete
Speaker 1: sitting in a federal prison in the dark, listening on
Speaker 1: a transistor radio to Marty and Joe. You couldn't write
Speaker 1: a script like that. So we'll celebrate the life and
Speaker 1: times of Peter Redward Rose one more time and Wednesday Night,
Speaker 1: Holy Grail, et cetera, plus the release of the Bengals
Speaker 1: schedule and more. I also would note that Leo the fourteenth,
Speaker 1: there's that number again, is the new Pope. Could not
Speaker 1: be more proud as a practicing Roman Catholic and as
Speaker 1: an American. They have an American pope. There was one
Speaker 1: other pope who spoke English, we think a thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: He's known as Pope Justinian from England. Of course, i'm
Speaker 1: told to the way English was spoken a thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't understand it. But nonetheless, it's been a thousand
Speaker 1: years since the pope spoke of the English. And this
Speaker 1: is by far the first American pope. And they spent
Speaker 1: his life in Chicago. And if you have time, google
Speaker 1: of Pope Leo the fourteenth World Series two to five
Speaker 1: twenty five, and there's one of those clips, and it's
Speaker 1: in between pitches and the White Sox are beating up
Speaker 1: on the Houston Astros, who at that point was in
Speaker 1: the National League. And Fox Sports had an outcue of
Speaker 1: a Chicago White Sox fan kind of with a cheering,
Speaker 1: a happy look on his face, and he happened to
Speaker 1: put on national television the face of Pope Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 1: How is that possible? It isn't possible, but it happened,
Speaker 1: So if you google it. I've watched it several times.
Speaker 1: I can't believe what I'm seeing. There is the future
Speaker 1: Holy Father at a White Sox game, and the White
Speaker 1: Sox won the World Series, and during one of their
Speaker 1: outclips in between pitches, that there he is, and he's
Speaker 1: being he's happy about his so called White Sox about
Speaker 1: to win the World Series in twenty oh five, and
Speaker 1: that team is in Cincinnati Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, which
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. At that point, he was only a Catholic
Speaker 1: priest in Peru. He came back here and there he
Speaker 1: was simply father of Robert Privos and the Augustinian priest,
Speaker 1: and the Augustinians are missionaries, so he requested assignment to
Speaker 1: a poor country, and for about eighteen years he spent
Speaker 1: his time in Peru, where he became close to the
Speaker 1: leader of Argentinian Catholics. Out would have been to Francis
Speaker 1: and about two years ago France has elevated him to
Speaker 1: be a cardinal. Now that guy, the White Sox fan,
Speaker 1: is the pope. He also loves the Philadelphia Eagles. Just
Speaker 1: go at Villanova. Well, we got a pope from the
Speaker 1: Big East, for God's sakes, first time in my life
Speaker 1: I have a pope that's younger than me. So he's
Speaker 1: a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. What do they do?
Speaker 1: They win the Super Bowl. So right now in America,
Speaker 1: we have the the Olympics are coming to La, we
Speaker 1: have the World Cup, we have the pope, and we
Speaker 1: have Donald Trump make America great again. It's happening right
Speaker 1: now now. I don't anticipate the media is going to
Speaker 1: say it that way, but I just did. I'm damn
Speaker 1: proud if I'm going to use the term damn to
Speaker 1: celebrate the idea that America has a pope that's hopefully
Speaker 1: you'll be in office the next twenty to twenty five
Speaker 1: years and beyond incredible. Now, what kind of pope's he
Speaker 1: going to be. I have no idea. A couple months ago,
Speaker 1: Cardinal Robert Prevost said on X quote Jade Vance is wrong.
Speaker 1: Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others,
Speaker 1: quote unquote, and so JD. Vance said something you should
Speaker 1: love your family first, and love your neighbors, love your friend,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of prioritized. And Cardinal Prevost said, that's
Speaker 1: the wrong approach. But on the other hand, Prevost now,
Speaker 1: Leo the fourteenth is registered as a Republican voting absentee.
Speaker 1: He's he voted in the Republican primary in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: I would assume he voted Republican. He took a Republican
Speaker 1: absentee ballot, he voted Republican in Illinois absentee in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: He voted in the twenty sixteen elections. He voted in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four He appears to be more of a
Speaker 1: Bush Republican than a Trump Republican. But nonetheless, we got
Speaker 1: one of our own in the Vatican and one of
Speaker 1: our own in the White House, which is unbelievable. Of course,
Speaker 1: the radical left is unhappy with any of this. This morning,
Speaker 1: they were sucking on lemons All morning, as the President
Speaker 1: ticked off the success within Yeah, in Pakistan, the American
Speaker 1: hostage seemingly has been released, eating Alexander reporting on that
Speaker 1: has occurred. We haven't seen him yet. I guess he's
Speaker 1: in bad shape of this reporting he's out, But we
Speaker 1: look at peace breaking out now in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: We hope in Ukraine's meeting with Russia eyeball to eyeball
Speaker 1: on Thursday, that the Left exists for one thing, one reason.
Speaker 1: That's power. They're masters at deceiving people, and they think
Speaker 1: they're going to lose a lot of their funding for
Speaker 1: their pet projects and for their political activities because the
Speaker 1: federal government, through USAID and through other grants, has funded
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party for a long time. That's all stopping
Speaker 1: right now. They can't even bring themselves to compliment the
Speaker 1: President on lowering drug prices if permitted to do so
Speaker 1: by the federal courts, because the federal courts are the
Speaker 1: nearest thing God on earth. As a federal judge, they
Speaker 1: think they're in charge of everything. So well, let's continue
Speaker 1: with more. But once again, I honor Pete Rose for
Speaker 1: all the good things that he's done in life and
Speaker 1: in baseball enough for the worst things that he's done.
Speaker 1: I will remember Pete Rose. Finally coming up after one
Speaker 1: o'clock today will be Yuri Kaufman about college campuses exploding.
Speaker 1: And after two o'clock is Keith O'Brien, author of Charlie Hussele,
Speaker 1: The Defensive Definitive work on Pete Rose, No Reds Baseball Today,
Speaker 1: back out at Tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, I'm Sorry Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Thursday Businessman Special on Thursday. Wednesday's Pete Rose Night. It's ironic.
Speaker 1: The White Sox are in town, the team of shoeless
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, Troll fifty five Home of Your Reds, Off
Speaker 1: of today, back out of tomorrow, a couple of games
Speaker 1: under five hundred. The two games better at this point
Speaker 1: of the season now than they were a season ago.
Speaker 1: Got to get the five hundred and beyond. They got
Speaker 1: to start hitting the baseball at some point. Troll fifty
Speaker 1: five Home of Your Reds, and Pete Rose News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham, The Great America. And
Speaker 1: two or three months ago we had on Yuri Kaufman,
Speaker 1: who's written a book called American Intafada, Israel, the Gaza
Speaker 1: war and the new anti Semitism, and he was such
Speaker 1: a fabulous guest. So much is going on this week,
Speaker 1: and I guess next week, and the President's going to
Speaker 1: the Middle East. I guess the cutter and UAE into
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. See what comes of that.
Speaker 1: There's rumors he may head to Israel at some point.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the piece is breaking out everywhere.
Speaker 1: And now I'm told that by Ambassador wit Cough so
Speaker 1: to speak, that Iran is ready to make a deal.
Speaker 1: I believe that when hell phrase is over and we
Speaker 1: have complete splits on American campuses today most of the
Speaker 1: graduations have taken place, and I kind of have two eyes.
Speaker 1: I like to see what goes on before I say, boy,
Speaker 1: this is wonderful what's happening in the world. But Uri Kaufman,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: let's deal first with what's happening in Gaza. And it
Speaker 1: appears the President's going to be in the Middle East
Speaker 1: in two or three days from now to try to
Speaker 1: work out situation. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you kind
Speaker 1: of have a wait and see attitude about what's happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to go wait and see.
Speaker 8: It is a lot going on in a very short
Speaker 8: period of time. Things have a way of changing very quickly.
Speaker 8: People have a way of planting stories that are frankly false.
Speaker 8: There's actually a bit of a scandal going on right
Speaker 8: now in Israel. It's called cut our Gate, as in Watergate,
Speaker 8: only with Cutter, because it turned out that Cutter was
Speaker 8: paying people to plant stories Israeli media that were completely false,
Speaker 8: and one of them was actually dangerous. One of the
Speaker 8: stories they planted was that Egypt was massing an army
Speaker 8: on Israel's border, perhaps with hostile intent. None of it
Speaker 8: was true. Why they would do something so crazy is
Speaker 8: beyond me. But the point is there's a lot of
Speaker 8: information flying around in Israel right now, and it's really
Speaker 8: hard to say what's true and what's fault. I will
Speaker 8: say this though, Ambassador Hu could be probably one of
Speaker 8: the finest ambassadors we have working for US right now.
Speaker 8: Obviously an outstanding governor, was a major candidate for president.
Speaker 8: Came in second place back in eighty one eight states
Speaker 8: in the primaries, lost to John McCain. No shame in that,
Speaker 8: and he said there's no break at all between President
Speaker 8: Trump and pre Minister at Yo. So I'll go with
Speaker 8: that as reliable as they come.
Speaker 1: And in a free, open society, of course, Cuttergate is available.
Speaker 1: And what the media in this country plays up loudly
Speaker 1: is the fact that there's part of Israeli society that
Speaker 1: thinks the Israeli armies should get the hell out of Gaza,
Speaker 1: give it back over to Hamas, get the hostages home.
Speaker 1: It's a great thing that the last American hostage is
Speaker 1: going to be released soon, if not been released already,
Speaker 1: and eating Alexander, and that's a good thing. But so
Speaker 1: you're saying from Israeli media, and I was there a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I loved my visit to Israel.
Speaker 1: I love what I was seeing as a practicing Roman Catholic,
Speaker 1: I love the new Pope, etc. However, you take it
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. If there was an Israeli
Speaker 1: real public relation pool about whether or not ten thousand
Speaker 1: more of the IDF reserves should be called up to
Speaker 1: have the final solutions, so to speak, in Goza, to
Speaker 1: clean it out of a moss, what would the vote
Speaker 1: PSA the great majority of Israelis know what's at stake here.
Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely, Now I understand is it's a democracy. And
Speaker 8: what happened in America in World War Two, where the
Speaker 8: public rallied completely behind a war effort for the entire duration.
Speaker 2: Of the war. That was a one off.
Speaker 8: Every war that America has ever fought in its history
Speaker 8: had its anti war faction had its controversy, whether it
Speaker 8: was the Civil War, it's the Revolutionary War. I mean,
Speaker 8: imagine protesting against George Washington. Well, there was a faction
Speaker 8: that did. I don't have to tell you what went
Speaker 8: on during Vietnam or career. That's the typical in a democracy,
Speaker 8: people are going to have different points of view. Israel
Speaker 8: is no different from us. Now, what the people who
Speaker 8: are anti war, though, are saying is downright silly. What
Speaker 8: they're saying is as follows. They're not saying they want
Speaker 8: to leave themas in power. They understand what that means.
Speaker 8: It means go home and prepare the eight nine year
Speaker 8: olds for the next night, October seventh attack. What the
Speaker 8: people are saying is simply this, let's get the hostages back,
Speaker 8: let's sign a ceasefire agreement, and then we'll wait for
Speaker 8: Hamas to make one little misstep and violate the ceasefire,
Speaker 8: and then we'll go in and destroy Kamas. Now that
Speaker 8: logic is downright ridiculous. Benjamin and Yo heard it from
Speaker 8: his head of the shin Bet, and he frankly blew
Speaker 8: up and he said, you're an idiot.
Speaker 4: And he's right.
Speaker 8: It's a ridiculous thing to think that the international community
Speaker 8: is going to sit back and let Israel do something
Speaker 8: like that. The Maas has said the only way they
Speaker 8: will agree to such a ceasefire is if it is
Speaker 8: guaranteed by America, Russia, Turkey, the European Union, in China,
Speaker 8: a UN.
Speaker 4: Security Council resolution. I mean the idea that is that would.
Speaker 8: Just be able over some infraction to ignore that and
Speaker 8: go back in the later.
Speaker 4: It's just flat out ridiculous.
Speaker 8: So I would take all this with a grain of salt.
Speaker 8: The Israeli public is solidly behind the war goals.
Speaker 5: The Maas has.
Speaker 8: Simply got to go otherwise, we're just going to be
Speaker 8: doing this again and again and again forever.
Speaker 1: And I would note you're a Kaufman that repeatedly there's
Speaker 1: been Palestinians themselves that have said, even they can't take
Speaker 1: Hamas anymore, and when someone surfaces, they're beheaded. And the
Speaker 1: Palestinian Arab suffering is caused by Hamas and by Iran indirectly.
Speaker 1: It's not about hamas, about building schools and hospitals and
Speaker 1: bridges and factories. It's not about infra structure, not about
Speaker 1: creating jobs or nurturing a culture, or volunteerism or advancing education.
Speaker 1: It's all about using the billions and billions of dollars
Speaker 1: given to so called Gaza over the past several years,
Speaker 1: beginning at least twenty oh five, twenty years when Israeli
Speaker 1: pulled out. It's all about one thing, which is killing
Speaker 1: the jew wherever they might be located, in killing Americans,
Speaker 1: and that's not going to change, which brings me to
Speaker 1: my second part. Right now, we're told that Iran is
Speaker 1: on the verge of peace and it's going to get
Speaker 1: rid of their nuclear bomb nuclear missile technology. I believe
Speaker 1: that when Hell Freeze is over, and I hope we're
Speaker 1: not suckered into Iran once again to believing they want peace.
Speaker 1: They don't need nuclear power in Iran for electricity. They
Speaker 1: have the cheapest electricity right now. In the Middle East.
Speaker 1: It's almost free. They want to get these nuclear centrifugures
Speaker 1: up to weapons great, and they want to use it
Speaker 1: and marry it with a missile and destroy Israel. Am
Speaker 1: I right or wrong?
Speaker 8: Well, you're hundred percent right, And you know the proof
Speaker 8: is really very very simple. The administration is said, if Iran,
Speaker 8: for some bizarre reason wants a civilian nuclear program, they
Speaker 8: can have a civilian nuclear program. It's like twenty countries
Speaker 8: that do. And the way it's done is real simple.
Speaker 8: They import the nuclear fuel into those countries. It's at
Speaker 8: a three and a half percent enrichment level, which is
Speaker 8: well below what you can use.
Speaker 2: In a weapon.
Speaker 8: You can use it for civilian purposes, you can use
Speaker 8: it in a power plant, you can use it for
Speaker 8: nuclear medicine, but you can't use it at three and
Speaker 8: a half percent for a bomb. For that and you
Speaker 8: close it a ninety percent. So what they do is
Speaker 8: they import the three and a half percent enriched uranium
Speaker 8: into those countries, then they take back the spent fuel.
Speaker 8: It's a great system. It's been around for decades, it
Speaker 8: works really well. It's been offered to Iran, and of
Speaker 8: course Iron keeps saying well, no, we don't want that.
Speaker 8: We want to enrich uranum. Well, the minute they say
Speaker 8: they want to enrich uranium is only one reason why
Speaker 8: anyone would want to do that. So it's pretty obvious
Speaker 8: you know where they're where they're pointed, and you know
Speaker 8: this is not a normal country like Russia, like a
Speaker 8: China that could be deterred these guys. If we've learned
Speaker 8: one thing from the October seven attack, it's that they
Speaker 8: don't think the way we do. And their leaders have
Speaker 8: been saying outwardly, look why you know, raise our kids,
Speaker 8: educate them. We don't want that. We just want to
Speaker 8: kill the Jews. We just want to create a caliphate.
Speaker 8: And that is what Ayatolakomami said when he was alive.
Speaker 8: He used to say the revolution was not about water,
Speaker 8: the price of watermelons. But by that he met My
Speaker 8: job is not to produce a better economy, job the
Speaker 8: things that you and I take for granted from our government,
Speaker 8: he said. Our job is to spread Islam, radical Islam.
Speaker 8: Our job is to create a caliphate. Having a nuclear
Speaker 8: weapon and hands like that makes a very very dangerous world.
Speaker 2: They're not just for Israel, but really for everybody.
Speaker 8: So I could just go back to Gaza for a second.
Speaker 8: I would just point out one thing. They constantly go
Speaker 8: on television, people who are sympathetic to the Palestinians and
Speaker 8: the Palestinians themselves, and they talk.
Speaker 4: About the suffering in Gaza.
Speaker 8: And I have to say, all of it is true,
Speaker 8: all of it is heartbreaking. But there's a real, real
Speaker 8: simple response.
Speaker 2: If it's so terrible, why don't you just make peace?
Speaker 8: Why don't you just recognize israel so called right to exist?
Speaker 8: Why don't you just agree to the two state solution,
Speaker 8: which Israel and Benjamin and you know.
Speaker 2: Agreed two decades ago.
Speaker 8: And you know, I watch other media, and particular liberal media,
Speaker 8: legacy media, and this goes.
Speaker 2: On and on and on, and they go on and
Speaker 2: on about.
Speaker 8: How they're suffering, and it never even occurs to anybody.
Speaker 4: Just ask that simple question, Well, if it's.
Speaker 8: So terrible, why don't you just end it? Why don't
Speaker 8: you just sign a peace treating? What is stopping you?
Speaker 8: The thing to always remember is Israel is not waging
Speaker 8: war against Gaza.
Speaker 4: Gaza is waging.
Speaker 8: War against Israel. That's the core problem.
Speaker 1: Jerry Kaufman, This could end tomorrow, the next day, surrender,
Speaker 1: Amasa is lost, put down your weapons, invite the Israelis in,
Speaker 1: release the hostages, and let's talk about riek instruction whatever
Speaker 1: they might be. But whether it's Hamas or has blap oko, haram,
Speaker 1: just Taliban, just is whatever term you want to use.
Speaker 1: It's a culture of death. It's not a culture of life.
Speaker 1: Even the German Nazi soldiers wanted to live, the Russian
Speaker 1: soldiers after World War Two, they wanted to live. But
Speaker 1: the goal of these Islamic extreme groups is to die.
Speaker 1: Their purpose is not to build schools and a nurture
Speaker 1: and culture or like they're channeling their fury against Israel.
Speaker 1: And they've been given the opportunity countless times, and they've
Speaker 1: balked every time, using the billions in order to reward
Speaker 1: suicide bombers, giving stipends and naming streets and parks after
Speaker 1: those who murder innocent men, women and children, and they
Speaker 1: doctrinate their own children with the hatred, hatred of the
Speaker 1: Jew in the Western culture. And this isn't a way
Speaker 1: to build a nation, it's a way. It's a suicide cult.
Speaker 1: And our media and those ridiculous students at Columbia and
Speaker 1: at Harvard and Yale and all over the country, the
Speaker 1: University of Washington. They're paid for their bought and paid
Speaker 1: for an event. Don't like it here, get the hell out.
Speaker 1: But the point is it's a culture of death. And
Speaker 1: until Iran and Hamas says, you know, we're done, We're
Speaker 1: not going to build any more bombs and missiles. All
Speaker 1: this aid we're going to use to feed our own people.
Speaker 1: Those responsible in Gaza for the suffering of those millions
Speaker 1: of Gozin's about two million is Hamas and Iran they're
Speaker 1: the ones responsible.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely. And you know, we're in a unique moment.
Speaker 8: We're in a moment now where there's been this hideous war.
Speaker 8: It's gone on for about a year and a half.
Speaker 8: Israel is very very very close to getting rid of Kamas.
Speaker 8: We're already seeing protests in Gaza. We're seeing Kamas murdering
Speaker 8: its own people to stay in power. They've been shooting
Speaker 8: people in the streets. There was one guy, a prominent guy,
Speaker 8: who was caught on camera. They caught him, they tortured
Speaker 8: him to death. The family then retaliated against Kamas. They
Speaker 8: killed two Kamas guys. So you know, things are happening there.
Speaker 8: Where Hamas is already is grip on power is starting
Speaker 8: to teet. And now think of it this way. Imagine
Speaker 8: we're closing in on Berlin. We've had this horrible, hideous war,
Speaker 8: we're about to win, and then someone says, well, oh, no,
Speaker 8: we need to stop because of the innocent German civilians
Speaker 8: and all the suffering.
Speaker 4: So let's have a ceasefire. Let's leave the Nazis in power.
Speaker 8: We know they're going to reconstant, you know they're going
Speaker 8: to attack us again, but you know we can't finish
Speaker 8: the job because of the innocent German civilians and all
Speaker 8: the suffering they've been It's ridiculous. This logic has never
Speaker 8: been employed in any conflict in the history of the
Speaker 8: world against anyone except for Israel. And so the question
Speaker 8: I think that I say the people in legacy media
Speaker 8: propagating this have to ask themselves is why is Israel different?
Speaker 8: Why is this the only war in the history of
Speaker 8: the world where country A invades country B and when
Speaker 8: country B is about to win, we so, no, no,
Speaker 8: you how to stop because you know the people of
Speaker 8: country A are suffering when they could just sign a
Speaker 8: peace treaty. There's just no reason for any of this
Speaker 8: to go on, And all it does is leave the
Speaker 8: Islamo Nazis in power, league Clamas in power and prepare
Speaker 8: us for the next round.
Speaker 4: It's really just a sad, sad story.
Speaker 1: Can you address yourself briefly to what's happening on college campuses?
Speaker 1: Graduation proceedings are happening everywhere. I think Columbia is having
Speaker 1: one in a couple of days here they may have
Speaker 1: to shut it down. What's happening to the several thousand
Speaker 1: seemingly students a University of Washington or Columbia, University of
Speaker 1: Chicago that are Hamas chapters and they're in a sense
Speaker 1: permitted to run wild. Who's paying him? Do they believe
Speaker 1: the crap coming out of their mouth? That stinks? What
Speaker 1: is happening to college campuses? Uriy Kaufman.
Speaker 8: It's a good question. So guy named Mark Kolakoff looked
Speaker 8: at this and what he found was this is more
Speaker 8: a phenomenon of elite universities than ordinary universities like the
Speaker 8: one I went to.
Speaker 4: I went to a city.
Speaker 2: College at night. They don't have any trouble there.
Speaker 8: It's primarily a problem of our elite colleges of Harvard
Speaker 8: of Columbia places like that. Some say it's because Qatar
Speaker 8: has poured billions of dollars into those universities and they've
Speaker 8: used that money to indoctrinate students. I myself am not
Speaker 8: a big fan of that theory. I mean, I think
Speaker 8: that certainly is a problem, and I think that's something
Speaker 8: we ought to look at and whether we want to
Speaker 8: allow that to go on. I think it just has
Speaker 8: more to do with the fact that these are schools that, look,
Speaker 8: they tilt left. We all know that, and I think
Speaker 8: we're in a moment culturally where look, as I've said
Speaker 8: many times, let's just do a simple thought experiment. Let's
Speaker 8: assume argument's sake, every fact of the October seven attack
Speaker 8: happened exactly the way it did.
Speaker 2: Let's just change one fact.
Speaker 8: So, just to go a little quick recap, twelve hundred
Speaker 8: people murdered, many many women raped. It enjoyed universal support
Speaker 8: among the public. The Palestinian public regularly refer to us
Speaker 8: as apes and pigs. You don't believe me, go on
Speaker 8: Google type and use apes and pigs. And then one
Speaker 8: final fact. The Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars for
Speaker 8: Gaza what they would term the innocent civilians. Okay, let's
Speaker 8: assume all that happened, but the attackers were Germans or
Speaker 8: Ukrainians or white stuff Africas, in other words, white people
Speaker 8: who said Jews are apes and picks. Do you really
Speaker 8: think Biden would have given them billions? And now let's
Speaker 8: hold the thought for a moment again, stay with me
Speaker 8: on this thought experiment in this parallel universe. Again, white
Speaker 8: supremacists not Arab supremacists, right, but they murdered twelve hundred
Speaker 8: black people, and they rape black women and it enjoys
Speaker 8: universal support. And then a Republican administration says, We're going
Speaker 8: to give billions of dollars of a to the innocent
Speaker 8: white supremacist civilians. The white supremacists who say at Blacks
Speaker 8: are apes and pigs, they'd be rioting in the streets.
Speaker 8: In other words, what we have here is a classic
Speaker 8: case of cognitive dissonance in the elite universities. They've been
Speaker 8: indoctrinated to fight for people of color in every circumstance. Now,
Speaker 8: the problem is that makes no sense in this fact
Speaker 8: pattern with Israel and the Palestinians. So then they changed
Speaker 8: the facts to fit the narrative. And that is why
Speaker 8: right after the October seven attack, Barack Obama tweeted that
Speaker 8: we have to face facts. It's unclean hands on both
Speaker 8: sides because he termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was
Speaker 8: no occupation ISRAELI withdrawn eighteen years before.
Speaker 4: Just made it up.
Speaker 8: The New York Times makes up stuff about Israel all
Speaker 8: the time. It all falls into the same narrative because
Speaker 8: they want to back people of color against what they
Speaker 8: perceive as a white group of privileged, the Jews, and
Speaker 8: so they change facts to fit that narrative.
Speaker 1: Well, highly educated, generally white females. I think at a
Speaker 1: Columbia eighty percent were highly educated white females that are
Speaker 1: at the forefront of this too. I guess they make
Speaker 1: their Misrael lives seem relevant. But the name of the
Speaker 1: book is American Intafauna, Israel, the Gaza War, and the
Speaker 1: new anti Semitism. I didn't think Columbia University itself in
Speaker 1: New York City whatever be declared to be antisemitic, but
Speaker 1: clearly it is. It's elite universities, not the trad schools. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's not the case. Not every university's the elite telling
Speaker 1: us how to behave, how to think. Once again, you're
Speaker 1: a coffin. Let's keep the lines of communication open. You're
Speaker 1: a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And the truth will set us all free.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yuri, it will, And thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: It's always just so great to be here.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Thank you. Let's continue with more. There
Speaker 1: it is, and uh, this week's going to be consequential. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. And thank god we have the
Speaker 1: right guy in the in the White House right now.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham on seven hundred W L W H Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: What a man really want from? Enough to shape, Not
Speaker 1: fancy perfume, fancy battle dot, fancy prices. No, a man
Speaker 1: wants to smell like a man. That's something he wants
Speaker 1: to be who every friends, That's something about a man
Speaker 1: wants to feel like a man.
Speaker 9: Man. Hello, Hello, Piet and I'm Skulls.
Speaker 2: I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: No segment of the man's got to smell like a man,
Speaker 1: that's for sure, Willie Wednesday night, it all happens. I
Speaker 1: have Keith O'Brien coming up in about fifteen twenty minutes
Speaker 1: wrote the defenditive book on Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle, The
Speaker 1: Life and Times of Pete Rose during the Golden Age
Speaker 1: of Baseball between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety. That was
Speaker 1: the golden age of baseball. Would you agree? Amen to that? Baby?
Speaker 1: Think of the stars in the game and things are
Speaker 1: different today now now I don't know what it is.
Speaker 10: Join us for the seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution
Speaker 10: Pete Party presented by Columbia Hunday. It'll be live from
Speaker 10: the Holy Grail on Wednesday afternoon starting at three, all
Speaker 10: leading up to Pete Rose Knight, which I heard is
Speaker 10: sold out and and uh on Wednesday night at the
Speaker 10: Big Big Ballpark downtown Sro will he the STUOTU Reporters
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Speaker 10: dealers Thamestar quality you can feel in Cincinnati. Col Sheldon
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Speaker 10: seventy seven sixty five.
Speaker 1: But ke let me put the finger on when I
Speaker 1: see some of the problems with the Reds. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Matt McClain hitting one sixty five, Jake Fraley
Speaker 1: two to oh five, Freedom not Bad two seventy six,
Speaker 1: Spencer Steer one eighty eight. Uh, you got Blake Dunn
Speaker 1: one point fifty, Rhyese Hines two hundred, Gavin Lux two
Speaker 1: eighty not bad, Todler Stevenson two thirty three, Will Benson
Speaker 1: zero nine to one. Can you smell what I'm cooking?
Speaker 1: They're not hitting the ball, you know what I'm saying, or.
Speaker 10: Not, whether they're striking out like at least at ten
Speaker 10: times a game. Uh, they're shut out for a seventh
Speaker 10: time already this season. Uh, they're they're gonna be close
Speaker 10: to the White Sox mark of last year.
Speaker 1: Pretty the where they're going, well, they're gonna end up
Speaker 1: with thirty shutouts, which is set a record.
Speaker 10: I mean, the the the road trip was a disaster.
Speaker 10: That guy ron at Ron L. Blanco rolled up eleven
Speaker 10: strikeouts yesterday and now the and Terry Francota says, flush it,
Speaker 10: regroup today, come back and start winning tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And who do the Reds play Wednesday night? The Chicago
Speaker 1: White Sox, the home of shoeless Joe Jackson, correct and
Speaker 1: Andrew bet attendee.
Speaker 10: Well, apparently Willy he's on the i L with a
Speaker 10: calf injury. Not sure, not sure if he's I think
Speaker 10: he's about halfway through. Of course the i L stint,
Speaker 10: so I'm not sure mister Andrew will be playing.
Speaker 1: I taught about a hit. Uh let's see what let's see?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 10: All, there is a report from the Florence Freedom today
Speaker 10: that one of their pitchers, Bo Blanchard, has been signed
Speaker 10: by the Reds.
Speaker 1: Get somebody in here. How about that guy from all
Speaker 1: Or High School? Who Brett Souter? No, the guy who
Speaker 1: pitches the quarterback? What's his name.
Speaker 8: Was?
Speaker 1: Yoh? Yeah? How about yeah? Put him in?
Speaker 8: Why?
Speaker 1: How about putting him in?
Speaker 10: The USCAA baseball World Series is underway. Willie and Penn
Speaker 10: State Skyckel edging out Miami Middletown today in eleven innings,
Speaker 10: nine to eight. So Miami Middletown will played tomorrow at
Speaker 10: ten am in a loser's bracket game.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 10: Longtime Jack Sendell baseball coach David Bradshaw won his five
Speaker 10: hundred and fiftieth game when the Eagles beat Southwestern a
Speaker 10: Hanover Friday night in an upset. Coach Bradshaw has been
Speaker 10: going at it since nineteen ninety five. He played in
Speaker 10: the Montreal Expos organization and he's thirty fifth on Indiana's
Speaker 10: all time win list.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to coach Bradshaw. How about this? The man
Speaker 1: accused of killing Larry Henderson with a car is suing
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Police and Hamlet County Sheriff's department over his treatment
Speaker 1: by police after his arrest. The lawsuit, filed today in
Speaker 1: federal court, claims that authorities violated the murderers due process rights,
Speaker 1: used excessive force, conspired to interfere with the civil rights,
Speaker 1: and falsely imprisoned him. He was the one taken out
Speaker 1: of the car that he used to kill the police officer.
Speaker 1: He's now suing hamlin A County. Andy Beck, the lawyer
Speaker 1: that filed this lawsuit, assuming the lawyers involved, should have
Speaker 1: his license pulled.
Speaker 10: Willie Trey Hendrickson released a statement to ESPN today. No
Speaker 10: communication has taken place between his camp and the organization
Speaker 10: post NFL draft.
Speaker 1: The team is no longer communicating with him.
Speaker 10: Oh it's hard to reach a resolution when there's no discussion.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. Seg Man.
Speaker 1: The murderer I know where you're coming from, says that
Speaker 1: he was intimidated when deputies lined up behind him during
Speaker 1: his May third arrayment in Hamley County Municipal Court. Quote.
Speaker 1: No reasonable law enforcement agency would subject a pre trial
Speaker 1: defendant to this level of humiliation, psychological warfare, and a
Speaker 1: coordinated plan to discriminate and punish him, intimidate the murderer.
Speaker 10: They were showing support for the for the for Larry Henderson,
Speaker 10: and that's intimidation.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's America. Well they did this wrong, said Antoinette Holloway,
Speaker 1: who filed the complaint on Hinton's behalf boy Antoinette Holiday.
Speaker 1: I assume she's an attorney. She claims her murderer client
Speaker 1: was intimidated. Also, Willie, it looks like, let's see.
Speaker 10: The National Football League announced this morning the opening game
Speaker 10: of the season Thursday night, September fourth, with Chris Collinsworth.
Speaker 10: It'll be Dallas at the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Eagles number one fan is Leo the fourteenth. There's that
Speaker 1: number again. Now he's an Eagles fan. I thought he
Speaker 1: was a White Sox. Both the video of the Pope
Speaker 1: five World Series.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know it's unbelievable. There is show you on TV.
Speaker 10: It's like, Oh, there he is. He's a pope, he
Speaker 10: was an archbishop. Then a Spanish newspaper there's a rumors
Speaker 10: going around tomorrow the National Football League will be will
Speaker 10: be announcing the international games.
Speaker 1: Whoa so?
Speaker 10: But this Spanish newspaper there were there was speculation running
Speaker 10: rampant throughout the pro football ranks that the Bengals would
Speaker 10: be playing the Dolphins in Spain. That's how you're saying, Madrid,
Speaker 10: that's what you're saying. Mentioned back in March.
Speaker 1: That's what you're saying.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm just reporting what they're saying. What are they
Speaker 10: saying now? This Spanish newspaper says, hold on their wise, gentlemen.
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 10: Pair appears that the Washington Commanders are now going to
Speaker 10: play Miami on November the sixteenth. That means maybe the
Speaker 10: Bengals will be playing Thanksgiving or Christmas maybe or maybe
Speaker 10: another international game.
Speaker 1: Who knows. The murderer, I won't mention his name is
Speaker 1: seeking damages and attorney themes for being intimidated, Oh boy,
Speaker 1: during his arraignment. Does it ever end?
Speaker 10: NCAA Golf Regional Willy right now in Urbana, Illinois u
Speaker 10: ses Ryan Ford is third, tied for third at three under.
Speaker 10: A couple of Wright State gentlemen, Andrew Flynn and Shane
Speaker 10: Ocha are tied for eleventh at minus one. Dayton ben
Speaker 10: Core's is one over. They're they're they're playing as individuals.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jeff Beckham, my friend, the brother of
Speaker 1: David Beckham, the soccer star. Yeah, had a hole in
Speaker 1: one today at four Bridges. How about that, Jeff Beckham?
Speaker 1: How about gratulations? How about this text? Tell seig to
Speaker 1: get his head out of his ass. They're the Florence Yawls,
Speaker 1: not the Lawrence Freedom. Oh sorry, what is wrong with
Speaker 1: what that is? From your buddy the wild Man? Tell
Speaker 1: me what is wrong with seg Man? Would you care
Speaker 1: to comment to the wild Man?
Speaker 6: Lee?
Speaker 1: I'm men Leal like him, kind of like the murderer
Speaker 1: who's suing the sheriff's department for intimidation. Yeah, let's see
Speaker 1: what else?
Speaker 10: Oh Wrestling News Pro Wrestling or Terry Brunk, known to
Speaker 10: wrestling fans as Sabou, has passed away at age sixty.
Speaker 10: He made himself a He made a name for himself
Speaker 10: an the e CW in nineteen nineties, a two time
Speaker 10: ec WH champion was a big favorite of Kid Chris,
Speaker 10: and he was known for being He was known for
Speaker 10: being in matches involving barbed wire, chains and tables.
Speaker 1: That's my kind of guy there. And his uncle was
Speaker 1: the chic. Really yes, wow, going back in time, a
Speaker 1: bit so excited to get his head out of his ass. No,
Speaker 1: the Florence jawls, not the Florence Freedom says, what is
Speaker 1: wrong with him? Would you go to comment on that one?
Speaker 1: Not publicly? No, not publicly? Right here, you're number one
Speaker 1: whoever did that one? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Also, Willie, we want to say congrats to one of
Speaker 10: our own, Brian super Combs and his partner Adam Cornett.
Speaker 10: Brian Combs and Adam Cornette teamed up this past weekend
Speaker 10: and the men's doubles finished second overall in the forty
Speaker 10: plus division of the Classic Classic Pickleball Tournament held at Sawyer.
Speaker 1: Part pretty well, didn't he?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 10: Brian Combs and Adam Cornett second overall in the forty
Speaker 10: plus men's doubles.
Speaker 1: Congrats and pickleball. I want to know, seg Man, we
Speaker 1: have about a minute remaining. Then I got the definitive
Speaker 1: work on Peter Edward Rose coming up in about ten
Speaker 1: minutes from Keith O'Brien. Yeah, did Pete Rose ever give
Speaker 1: you a shower? Just say yes or no?
Speaker 9: No, Sem Dennison is the last man I gave a
Speaker 9: shower to.
Speaker 1: That is are you calling Pete Rose a liar? That
Speaker 1: is AI?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 10: I didn't have AI twenty years ago? Oh six, we
Speaker 10: say nineteen years ago. I was in the room when
Speaker 10: they when they edited that, did you? I was in
Speaker 10: the room when they edited that.
Speaker 1: Did Pete Man?
Speaker 9: Dennison is the last man I gave a shower too.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, are you calling him a liar? And
Speaker 1: it's not the AI? It didn't exist. No, because I
Speaker 1: don't want wild Man texting you idiots? Sorry.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, only one guy doesn't make any
Speaker 10: mistakes like him. He must be the Sportsman's Almighty, because
Speaker 10: there's only one Almighty that doesn't make any mistakes.
Speaker 1: The second almighty's in the Vatican right now. Bingo, Hey,
Speaker 1: how about this one? Give seg hell nice to see
Speaker 1: you too. They're in his sake. Yeah, you got fans on,
Speaker 1: Well why do you call such anger? People just don't
Speaker 1: like it? Because I want people to listen, how about
Speaker 1: Sarah Least too? What about how about kid Rock? How
Speaker 1: about Kid Chris Kid Rock? How about what's he on?
Speaker 1: He's on? He's introducing Trump? Oh, I thought he's he
Speaker 1: was on fifteen thirty down and dirty. Say get me
Speaker 1: out of the student's report.
Speaker 10: Pleon honor of a rainy day coming up here in
Speaker 10: the Tri State, would you give Pete Rose a shower?
Speaker 10: We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.
Speaker 1: We'll see what there's severe constitutional issues here.
Speaker 12: There are cases that say you can't do this, and
Speaker 12: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Justice Joe calls in with a comment, Wow, the defamation
Speaker 1: lawsuit against that just hit the inquiry. Yeah, good night, Irene. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got some's neck now here. I got some comment
Speaker 1: about you and Rob Butcher. I can't say on the air.
Speaker 1: I'll show it to you on seven hundred WLD Billy
Speaker 1: Cunning in the Great American, of course, the definitive work
Speaker 1: on the Pete Rose is entitled Charlie Hustle The Rise
Speaker 1: and Fall of Pete Rose in the Last Glory Days
Speaker 1: of Baseball, came out about a year ago, of course,
Speaker 1: written by the bio for Pete Rose. Cincinnati and Keith O'Brien,
Speaker 1: the New York Times bestselling author. It is the definitive
Speaker 1: work on Pete Rose start to finish, and once again,
Speaker 1: Keith O'Brien, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And one
Speaker 1: of the terms you use in your book title the
Speaker 1: Last Glory Days of Baseball, And I have a sense
Speaker 1: you're right, because between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety that
Speaker 1: they were like twenty World Series and the Reds were
Speaker 1: in five of the twenty, twenty percent more than any
Speaker 1: other team, and they won three of them. After nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety things changed fundamentally. Why did you use the term
Speaker 1: the last glory days of baseball?
Speaker 11: It's a great question. Bill, Good to be back with you. You know,
Speaker 11: in the time that Pete Rose was in professional baseball,
Speaker 11: everything changes. It's a stunning period of time. If you
Speaker 11: think about it. Rose is a rookie in the minors
Speaker 11: in nineteen sixty and of course he's banned from baseball
Speaker 11: in the summer of nineteen eighty nine. That's thirty seasons
Speaker 11: of professional baseball, and you know, everything shifts in that time,
Speaker 11: and really what it comes down to is money. You know,
Speaker 11: the dawn of the free agency era fundamentally changes the
Speaker 11: play years, it changes the teams, it changes the sports,
Speaker 11: and the lack of a salary cap structure in baseball
Speaker 11: has created this this ecosystem where there are essentially two
Speaker 11: kinds of teams. There are the halves, the teams with
Speaker 11: the money, the teams with the big lucrative local television contract,
Speaker 11: and then there are the have nots. And that makes
Speaker 11: it incredibly for small market teams like the Reds to compete.
Speaker 11: In order in order to compete these days, small market
Speaker 11: teams basically have to get everything right. They have to
Speaker 11: be perfect. Yeah, and it's very hard to do well.
Speaker 1: The other thing about this Pete Rose began with Fred
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Don blasting Game and Frank Robinson. My favorite
Speaker 1: player was Veda Pinson number twenty eight. It was a
Speaker 1: different error completely in which the players had to get
Speaker 1: off season jobs to make ends meet. I can recall
Speaker 1: but Red's baseball players selling cars and working in clothing
Speaker 1: stores and being roasted agents. And in Pete Rose's case,
Speaker 1: he was one of our own improbable. What was the
Speaker 1: lowest moment of Pete Rose's life? I suspect I know
Speaker 1: the answer, because I was with him for a few
Speaker 1: of those moments myself. What do you say, Keith O'Brien,
Speaker 1: was the lowest moment of Pete Rose's.
Speaker 2: Life before his banishment? You mean before?
Speaker 1: Yes, before.
Speaker 11: I think if Pete were alive, the answer that he
Speaker 11: would give to that question, Bill is that it was
Speaker 11: the death of his father in December nineteen seventy. His father,
Speaker 11: Harry Francis Rose, a better known on the West Side
Speaker 11: as Big Pete's you know, his father, you know, was
Speaker 11: a difficult man. He was a hard charging man. He
Speaker 11: demanded a lot from his oldest son, little pet He
Speaker 11: really wanted him to be a successful athlete. It was
Speaker 11: very important to Harry Francis Rose that little Pete could
Speaker 11: be good at sports. And I think that took a
Speaker 11: toll on Pete. But he never acknowledged that, you know.
Speaker 11: He he said he worshiped his father and certainly he
Speaker 11: did want to please him. And I think it's notable
Speaker 11: that he often mentioned his father when telling his story.
Speaker 11: You know, he said that's one reason why he slammed
Speaker 11: into Ray Fosse in the nineteen seventy All Star Game
Speaker 11: at home plate in the bottom of the twelfth ning
Speaker 11: was that his father was sitting right there behind home plate,
Speaker 11: and he he didn't want to play soft with his
Speaker 11: dad there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 11: He also said later believes again this is Pete's belief,
Speaker 11: not mine, necessarily, and he believes that he would not
Speaker 11: have bet on baseball his father had still been alive,
Speaker 11: because his father never tolerated that kind of behavior. Now,
Speaker 11: you know, I personally think Bill that Pete suffered from
Speaker 11: gambling addiction, yep. And addicts don't make rafal choices. We
Speaker 11: all know that they don't make rational choices. Again and again,
Speaker 11: they make choices that hurt themselves and hurt others face
Speaker 11: of all the evidence suggesting that they should not be
Speaker 11: making those choices. And so I tend to believe that
Speaker 11: Pete would have made the wrong choices anyway. But that's
Speaker 11: how Pete felt about his father.
Speaker 1: He had that in him. He was just like an
Speaker 1: alcoholic or somebody that's a drug addict. Pete Rose was
Speaker 1: a gambling addict. That was the soft side of the
Speaker 1: side of this great man. Let's go through nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine when he met with Pete. Youberroth, he left the
Speaker 1: Red as a manager for a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: went to New York, met with him, explained what happened
Speaker 1: in that meeting, and that was a critical moment that
Speaker 1: Pete he mismanaged completely.
Speaker 11: Absolutely. It's late February nineteen eighty nine. Spring training has
Speaker 11: just begun the day before, and Rose is summoned for
Speaker 11: a secret meeting in New York City in the front
Speaker 11: office of Major League Baseball with outgoing Commissioner Peter Ubroth,
Speaker 11: incoming commissioner and then president of the National League Barchiamatti,
Speaker 11: and Barchiamadi's right hand man Fai Incense, the deputy commissioner
Speaker 11: at the time, about you know later will become commissioner himself,
Speaker 11: and you know, they want to have him to New
Speaker 11: York Pete Rose to ask him a simple question. They
Speaker 11: have heard through the rumor mill in New York City
Speaker 11: that Sports Illustrated is investigating a story gambled on baseball,
Speaker 11: and they want to ask him, point blank, has he
Speaker 11: done it? And they have cordial meeting again secret at
Speaker 11: the time. They ask him that and Rose flatly denies it.
Speaker 11: And I think there's two interesting things about that answer.
Speaker 11: The first is the men in the room that day
Speaker 11: believe him. You broth Giamadi and fath Ins and who,
Speaker 11: by the way, had never met Rose before until that day.
Speaker 11: Believe Pete Rose. You know, as Rose says that day,
Speaker 11: you know, I wouldn't be that stupid to bet on baseball,
Speaker 11: And of course why would he write. But with sports electrically,
Speaker 11: they know you. They can't take his word. No, they
Speaker 11: have to investigate it themselves, and that's when they hire
Speaker 11: John Dowd. And you know what I can tell you
Speaker 11: about that meeting is that if Rose had been honest
Speaker 11: that day, Bill, if he had simply told them the truth,
Speaker 11: which is he couldn't stop gambling and he had started
Speaker 11: betting on baseball, I believe that Major League Baseball would
Speaker 11: have done everything it could have to salvage Pete Rose.
Speaker 11: And I don't mean to suggest that he wouldn't have
Speaker 11: been playing. I don't suggest that he wouldn't have been banned.
Speaker 2: But I do not.
Speaker 11: That if we'd have been honest and had told him
Speaker 11: that he had this sickness, he had this illness he
Speaker 11: could not stop. I do not believe it would be
Speaker 11: the kind of banishment, the kind of punishment that we'd
Speaker 11: still be talking about thirty six years later.
Speaker 1: What was a low point after the August eighty nine
Speaker 1: banishment for Pete Rose, when he hit rock bottom.
Speaker 11: Wow, I mean so many, so many rock bottoms come
Speaker 11: after nineteen eighty nine, you know, as a Cincinnatian and
Speaker 11: as a Red fan, and as someone who sat with
Speaker 11: Pete Rose and interviewed him and talked to him about
Speaker 11: that time in his life. To me, the most haunting
Speaker 11: moment Bill is October nineteen ninety. It's one year later,
Speaker 11: and any Red fan knows what happens in October nineteen ninety.
Speaker 11: That's when Cincinnati Red won the World Series, swept the
Speaker 11: Oakland A's and one of the greatest upsets of the
Speaker 11: life last fifty years. And you know that team was
Speaker 11: primarily the same roster as it had been the year before,
Speaker 11: with just a few exceptions. That was Pete Rose's team.
Speaker 11: And where is Rose on that night, you know, in
Speaker 11: October nineteen eighty, nineteen ninety, when they win the World Series,
Speaker 11: he is sitting in a federal prison in Marion, Illinois,
Speaker 11: watching that game on a small television and a communal
Speaker 11: room with a brother federal convicts. And Rose goes back
Speaker 11: to his dorm room that night, a big room with
Speaker 11: lots of bunk beds, and just imagining Pete Rose laying
Speaker 11: there in the dark of that room for me is haunting.
Speaker 1: And then he gets out, goes to a halfway house
Speaker 1: fourteenth and Vine. I visited him there several times and
Speaker 1: watched Pete Rose. That was my boyhood hero. Everybody he
Speaker 1: wanted to be Pete Rose. He's had a cot. There's
Speaker 1: four or five other people in a room. For some reason,
Speaker 1: the federal judge put him into a halfway house, as
Speaker 1: if Pete Rose had to be acclimated back into the
Speaker 1: reality of life. People stealing his stuff and signing autographs,
Speaker 1: which was illegal at the bottom of the bottom of
Speaker 1: the bottom, and his gambling continued. And after that when
Speaker 1: he got out, he kept gambling on baseball and other sports.
Speaker 1: How would Pete react to what's going to happen Wednesday night?
Speaker 1: How would Pete Rose, looking down, I pray from heaven,
Speaker 1: would look sold out? Hadn't played baseball with the Reds
Speaker 1: for almost forty years. His last about was in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six. It's been thirty nine years, and here you
Speaker 1: sell out the Great American Ballpark standing room tickets only
Speaker 1: there's going to be a celebration to Pete Rose with
Speaker 1: his family and all the clips. How would Pete react
Speaker 1: to that?
Speaker 11: You know, Cincinnati always meant a lot of pose, you know,
Speaker 11: and so this game night and this crowd in this
Speaker 11: moment would have meant a lot to heros. You know,
Speaker 11: he interestingly has scripted from beyond a lot of the
Speaker 11: things that have happened.
Speaker 5: In recent months.
Speaker 11: You know, he told me when I was reporting my book,
Speaker 11: Charlie Hustle, he told me that, you know, when he died,
Speaker 11: he wanted to be laid out in States at Great
Speaker 11: American Ballpark, laid out in the casket there. It seemed
Speaker 11: implausible when he told me that back in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 11: that's exactly what happened. Of course, last fall he told
Speaker 11: me too that he believed that when he died, major
Speaker 11: League Baseball may reinstate him, that they may do it posthumously. Right,
Speaker 11: he predicted that and was fairly bitter about that too, Bill.
Speaker 11: You know, he it hurt him again something he he
Speaker 11: would not admit to, but it hurt him that he
Speaker 11: lost the last thirty five years of his life, you know,
Speaker 11: in the hinterlands of the sport that he loved and
Speaker 11: it heard him to know that he may be possumously
Speaker 11: placed back on Baseball's to the lists. But of course,
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, this was a situation that Rose
Speaker 11: made for himself. You know, we talked about that moment
Speaker 11: in February nineteen eighty nine, were based on my reporting,
Speaker 11: things would have been differently. It would have gone differently
Speaker 11: if he had told the truth. There are several other
Speaker 11: moments that come after that where the same thing is true.
Speaker 11: You know, Rose will meet with Dowd in a for
Speaker 11: a secret deposition later that spring where for two full days.
Speaker 11: If Rose was honest, then it's different. You know, at
Speaker 11: his banishments, with his banish in late August nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 11: there was another chance for him to get right Bargie
Speaker 11: and Maadi the truth. He couldn't do it. And these decisions,
Speaker 11: you know, ultimately are what put Rose in the position
Speaker 11: that he was in for the last thirty five year life.
Speaker 1: And then at the end there was an occasion with
Speaker 1: Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench and others who had Bud
Speaker 1: Seeley in like two thousand, nineteen ninety nine. Okay, of course,
Speaker 1: for Pete to get back in. But Pete's got to
Speaker 1: do this. Pete's got to do that. I know. Bench
Speaker 1: and Joe Morgan bless his soul, were quite unhappy with
Speaker 1: the fact that they could never get Pete to admit
Speaker 1: he needed help, needed a problem, he had, got a problem.
Speaker 1: And then he finally wrote the book and admitted he
Speaker 1: did everything. That hurt that much more. There were so
Speaker 1: many twist and turns, and after in August eighty nine,
Speaker 1: every twist and turn he made was the wrong one.
Speaker 1: And if Pete Rose said repeatedly, I don't care about
Speaker 1: getting in the Hall of Fame when I'm dead, who cares.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to be read stated off the
Speaker 1: lifetime list and he'll be eligible. A Veterans Committee's going
Speaker 1: to meet in the December of twenty twenty seven. Every
Speaker 1: member of the so called Veterans Committee or against Pete
Speaker 1: Rose getting in, and he's seventy five percent of the vote.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that happens. But lastly, do you
Speaker 1: see Keith O'Brien away that the number one is going
Speaker 1: to be off the lifetime ban because he's dead, But
Speaker 1: then sheerless Joe's dead and he's still in the lifetime
Speaker 1: band list and it's ironic. The Reds are playing the
Speaker 1: White Sox Wednesday night, quite ironic. But nonetheless, do you
Speaker 1: see get out your crystal ball? Does Pete Rose ever
Speaker 1: get to the Hall of Fame? He said during his
Speaker 1: living years, he didn't care.
Speaker 11: You know, it's impossible to predict. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 11: This story is taking so many twists and turns. You know,
Speaker 11: I will say this. You know, think in general, we
Speaker 11: as a culture have lost perspective on the Hall of fame,
Speaker 11: on all the halls of fame, right. I think we
Speaker 11: like to put athletes on pedestals. We like to pretend
Speaker 11: perfect people, We like to ascribe moral values to them.
Speaker 11: We don't even really know who they are. Bill, We
Speaker 11: know very little about the people we cheer for, and
Speaker 11: I will argue that we'll know even less about them
Speaker 11: going forward in this modern era where reporters simply don't
Speaker 11: have access to the players like they want. Players don't
Speaker 11: even have for us. They can frame their own story
Speaker 11: through their Instagram accounts, so we don't really know who
Speaker 11: they are. I think we should enshrine or not enshrine
Speaker 11: players based on what they did on the between the lines.
Speaker 11: We know and if what they did off the field
Speaker 11: is so wrong, then I say put those mistakes on
Speaker 11: the plaque at Cooperstown right next to their accomplishments.
Speaker 1: Well, at some point, Pete's going to be pardoned by
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. At some point he's going to be reien
Speaker 1: stayed a lifetime ban and let the chips fall where
Speaker 1: they may. But if someone wants the good, the bad,
Speaker 1: and the ugly, it's Charlie Hustle. The rise and fall
Speaker 1: of Pete Rose in the last glory days of baseball
Speaker 1: so true. The Reds used to have the highest payroll
Speaker 1: in baseball. They were the dominant franchise. And here we
Speaker 1: are as a small market team thirty years later, and
Speaker 1: we struggle to get to five hundred every now and then.
Speaker 1: And once again, Uh, Keith O'Brien, it's always great to
Speaker 1: have you on. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Keith O'Brien, you're a great American. Thank you very much.
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Bill.
Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. Thank you all. Let's continue with
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Speaker 9: LW Segman Dennison is the last man. I gave a
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Speaker 1: Oh hello, hello.
Speaker 2: Byet Skulls. I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Calling Pete Rose Ali segment. Did he give you a shower?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Everything? Yeah, I'm not saying him a liar? No, what
Speaker 1: are you saying? I'm not saying nothing. Didn't you give
Speaker 1: a shout to Joe DiMaggio. I think that's what he's
Speaker 1: talking about, not you. I was in the room when
Speaker 1: that was edited edited. Yeah, it was a I No,
Speaker 1: it was uh whatever, Well, you don't know what they
Speaker 1: what is AI? You know what what does that stand for?
Speaker 1: Allen Iverson? That's it right there. So you not as
Speaker 1: dumb as people think you are. Huh huh. Now, Rock,
Speaker 1: I have a comment for you to make. I just
Speaker 1: handed you a story the murderer Rock is not working.
Speaker 1: Is the microphone working? Microphone? Try that the man accused.
Speaker 1: I won't mention his name. The cold blood of murderer
Speaker 1: accused of killing Larry Henderson has fought a lawsuit against
Speaker 1: the Hamley County Sheriff's Department and the Cincinnati Police, allegedly
Speaker 1: claiming that he was treated to harshly when he was
Speaker 1: arrested at the scene, and secondly, he was it was
Speaker 1: intimidated by the arraignment in which the cops stood behind him,
Speaker 1: that that showed disrespect, racism, intimidation, and embarrassment to the murderer.
Speaker 12: But of course he had nothing to do with his
Speaker 12: current situation, nothinging.
Speaker 1: This so called person representing him wants him to be
Speaker 1: released immediately. You must be released. I'm just saying, we
Speaker 1: live in the world that's upside down. Your comments eventy, Plus,
Speaker 1: the flag of the Cincinnati Police is now flying over
Speaker 1: City Hall eight to one Plum Street for the first
Speaker 1: time in its history. According to news media outlets, that finally,
Speaker 1: after pureval is honoring police. Your comments on all this
Speaker 1: police break it down by category?
Speaker 7: Well, talk to your.
Speaker 1: Comments on the murderer suing the Sheriff's department alleging embarrassment
Speaker 1: for the murder that he committed. What kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: where are they gonna be seeking in his trial? Number one?
Speaker 1: Released this group once and release number two a written
Speaker 1: formal apology, and number three monetary damages for the murderer
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. You bet against it. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: it out of your mind. I didn't say I did
Speaker 1: you know where he lives though Rock Middletown. By the
Speaker 1: segment Middle Tucky, he spent time in the Butler County jail.
Speaker 1: In mind, had the murderer did, and so you're not
Speaker 1: going to defend him segment No Rock, your reaction to
Speaker 1: the lawsuit, how's this going to play out? In your opinion?
Speaker 1: That'll be dismissed. But I don't know. The bigger problem
Speaker 1: is this, did the eighteen year old son of the
Speaker 1: murderer who started this whole thing actually point the gun
Speaker 1: at the police or not? One's video get released? A video,
Speaker 1: A lot of it's been released now.
Speaker 12: By I mean, everybody I've talked to said that the
Speaker 12: gun was dropped and it was then picked up. Why
Speaker 12: do you pick up a gun if you don't intend
Speaker 12: to use it? Now that's in that case, Pad, That's
Speaker 12: a good question right there. If you don't intend to
Speaker 12: use it, why wouldn't you just leave it on the
Speaker 12: ground and say you know what you got me, I'm sorry,
Speaker 12: or just scurry off into the woods and run away
Speaker 12: like the other three. You pick up a gun that
Speaker 12: was us because you intend to use it.
Speaker 1: That's not what that is going to be. The crux
Speaker 1: of made the gun was not pointed at the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: police officer. It was a bad shooting.
Speaker 12: Again, as I said the other day, there was three
Speaker 12: different instances where he could have not you know, committed
Speaker 12: to his own demise.
Speaker 1: Could have not stolen the car.
Speaker 12: How about that idea, could have not run from the police,
Speaker 12: and could have not picked up and pointed a gun
Speaker 12: not once, but twice the police segment.
Speaker 1: Your reaction do you stand who do you stand with?
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Speaker 12: The Trumps are in the in the budget is planning
Speaker 12: to give some money to the bottom transportation.
Speaker 1: Who's responsible for this? Who was the second bid? And
Speaker 1: how about Secretary Judge? Your buddy from South Bend. There's
Speaker 1: another name time? Is that the Notre Dame connection?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 9: There?
Speaker 1: Was he the Mariouth Bend good friends back then? What
Speaker 1: credentials did he have to be the transportation secretar.
Speaker 12: Not one who he shows the sleep with got in
Speaker 12: the gig segment.
Speaker 1: Any comments you have on that one? What transportation? No?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Who you chowse the sleep with? That cheerleader from Cole Raine?
Speaker 1: What was her name?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Never mind? Go ahead?
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Speaker 10: Sate Skypeill got by Miami Middletown nine to eight and
Speaker 10: eleven innings in the opener. So Miami Middletown the thunder
Speaker 10: Hawks will play tomorrow in the loser's bracket.
Speaker 1: You're playing this because a Middletown is that it.
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Speaker 10: Trey Hendrickson, in a statement today, says that the team
Speaker 10: is cut off contract talks after a dispute regarding a
Speaker 10: new deal.
Speaker 12: Now, the media had reported that they were in constant conference.
Speaker 12: You know, constant communication is.
Speaker 1: Maybe Henderson doesn't know and the Bengals don't know, but
Speaker 1: the media does.
Speaker 12: Do you think the Bengals at any point last year said,
Speaker 12: you know what, okay? Because how it went was like
Speaker 12: he was unhappy with his contract last year. They essentially said, okay,
Speaker 12: you go prove it. You did led the league in sacks.
Speaker 1: Come back.
Speaker 12: At any point in that, do you think the Bengals said
Speaker 12: to him, you know what.
Speaker 1: You know, you go ahead and I'll perform the contract.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay it. I think the Bengals probably told
Speaker 1: him that. I don't think so. I think they said.
Speaker 12: I think they said we'll revisit it. Don't imagine they
Speaker 12: promised they would pay more reaction.
Speaker 10: The National Football League announced today the opening game of
Speaker 10: the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, where's it?
Speaker 10: At Dallas at Philadelphia the Pope Thursday night, September the fourth.
Speaker 1: Will Pope show up for this one? He's an Eagles
Speaker 1: fan from Villanova at a bud Man. The Big East
Speaker 1: has a Pope? Say you buried the lead?
Speaker 12: Jordan Hudson finished third in the Miss Main competition.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? I'm gonna get to that, Rockey,
Speaker 1: give me a chance. All right, that's the lead story.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 10: In golf, Congrats to Jeff Beckham Holand one today at
Speaker 10: four Bridges, the brother of David Beckham Holand One, his
Speaker 10: first one Jeff Beckham, call him and tell.
Speaker 1: Him you're right. What the what hole number five? It
Speaker 1: was two hundred and seventy five yard part three knocked
Speaker 1: it in with a three wood on the fly? O? Wow,
Speaker 1: how about that? Pretty good?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 1: You jealous? Yes?
Speaker 10: N C double a golf regional right now in Urban
Speaker 10: or Urbana, Illinois playing as an individual, U sees Ryan
Speaker 10: Ford is still tied for third to three.
Speaker 1: Under who recruited the rock Urban Meyer who enjoys lap dances?
Speaker 1: Was that Urban Illinois or Abana? I thought I thought
Speaker 1: about the.
Speaker 12: Last Did you think constantly how you can tie me
Speaker 12: into some sort of controversy?
Speaker 1: The king of that? Exactly? Thank you? Please continue.
Speaker 10: FC Cincinnati s Evander has been named to the MLS.
Speaker 1: Is he related to Evander?
Speaker 10: Hollyfield No has been named to the MLS Team of
Speaker 10: the Match day for a goal and assists Saturday night
Speaker 10: and the win over Austin FC. The Orange and Blue
Speaker 10: are at Toronto on Wednesday night and then take on
Speaker 10: the Columbus crew Saturday. Where hell is real?
Speaker 1: Now? What about Wednesday night? About Pete Rose? You forgot
Speaker 1: about that? I'm just gonna mention that. Well, Wednesday night
Speaker 1: joined Pete Rose Knight, Uh do you joined us? For
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution Pete Party presented by
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Speaker 1: o'clock Wednesday with the rock Edward and Moe all gonna
Speaker 1: be there and he goes breaking down. Pete Rose break,
Speaker 1: I need more information. I'll give it to you right now.
Speaker 1: Pete Rose Junior. I talked to him earlier. He's gonna
Speaker 1: join us at four or five. He needs a good man.
Speaker 1: What's Dave Rose to in these days? Pete's brother?
Speaker 10: I can't say, Go ahead say and then what Jordan Hudson, Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then there's video of Belichick? Was there? Was he there?
Speaker 12: In the way the competition was held in a Holiday
Speaker 12: inn in like Banger, Maine.
Speaker 1: Figures, that's perfecture.
Speaker 12: What you got Bill Belichick sitting there in the audience
Speaker 12: of like twenty three people in a Holiday inn ballroom
Speaker 12: in Banger, Maine, watches girl friend coming third. You did
Speaker 12: not have that on your Bengo.
Speaker 1: Car, I did not have that possibility of occurring. Can
Speaker 1: you see them? And they sweet of holiday in celebrating
Speaker 1: her her bronze finish.
Speaker 10: Well, there's there's video of there's video of the coach
Speaker 10: chumming up with the winner, who is twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: Belichick's going to younger then, right.
Speaker 10: She is then wash that guy the other day that
Speaker 10: had that report of Pablo Torres. Yes he had a report.
Speaker 10: There's there was there was, there was no way. He's
Speaker 10: that Bill Belichick will coach the tar Heels this year.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden he will not do it.
Speaker 1: I got a who's gonna pull the trigger?
Speaker 10: North Carolina, the university chancellor, they probably had it. You
Speaker 10: want that circus on the sideline. I think at this
Speaker 10: point you got to go through it. I mean, look,
Speaker 10: at the end of the day, people are gonna be
Speaker 10: talking about North Carolina. I still believe Bill Belichick can
Speaker 10: win football games. I think he looks at this as
Speaker 10: Jordan Hudson helps him with his image, helps him look
Speaker 10: a little bit. Younger, helps him look which she got
Speaker 10: him kicked out of the league in the first place,
Speaker 10: and she usually benefits by getting a you know, eight
Speaker 10: million dollar uh, you know, housing portfolio.
Speaker 1: And so you're saying Bill Belichick goes to a holiday
Speaker 1: inn in Bangor, Maine to watch Jordan Hudson finished bronze
Speaker 1: third out of four and this Maine. Are any good
Speaker 1: looking women in Maine? I don't think so. When's the
Speaker 1: last time?
Speaker 7: Miss May was a twelve, not twelve but eight twelve,
Speaker 7: So she was somewhat attractive, as you say, yes, so
Speaker 7: it was a fair competition.
Speaker 1: Jordan should have.
Speaker 12: But there was like a like a fan voting thing,
Speaker 12: and you could pay a dollar to to cast a vote.
Speaker 12: I would Bill Belichick would have called a bunch of
Speaker 12: people and donated the money, and I would have. I
Speaker 12: don't you wanted her to win on donate money? No,
Speaker 12: I would, Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 1: He didn't finish. And you see her at Atlantic City
Speaker 1: the Miss America contest with Bill Belichick. There you're talking
Speaker 1: about it. There she is miss a Mary missus Belichick.
Speaker 1: Will they get married and have children?
Speaker 12: I right now he is going to coach and he's
Speaker 12: gonna he's gonna, like you're gonna have the first games.
Speaker 1: North Carolina hosting. Anybody.
Speaker 12: Let's go down the sideline with a rocket boyman Rocky
Speaker 12: point on the Belichick rock what's going on?
Speaker 1: Getting passing notes to Belichick from Jordan Hudson on play calling.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this past Belichick. Right, it's
Speaker 1: on to Cincinnati. Well, what's he getting out of this?
Speaker 1: I don't get it from Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 12: He gets he looks younger, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 12: looks like he's kind.
Speaker 11: He gets and some other state.
Speaker 1: Calm down, Dave, calm down, anatomically women, you get it
Speaker 1: from bi logical. Never mind, what do you have on
Speaker 1: the show today?
Speaker 11: That was awkward?
Speaker 10: That was rock The Trump said that you can use
Speaker 10: his free plane he got from Cutter, so it.
Speaker 1: Was a plane for said the problem that they're complaining
Speaker 1: four hundred million will take the plane takes a play,
Speaker 1: a couple of paint on him.
Speaker 10: He said, you could use that during the college foot
Speaker 10: Jordan for your support from Ohio. Spelichick wearing the pale
Speaker 10: blue colors of the tart heels.
Speaker 5: No he was not. He was.
Speaker 12: She wore one of her dresses. And again I only
Speaker 12: look into this so no one else has to. I
Speaker 12: had to do the dirty work and look at pictures
Speaker 12: of her and all the other main Miss America, you
Speaker 12: know PA contestants.
Speaker 1: She did some dirty work too, just saying main this
Speaker 1: main holiday in bangor Maine Banger banger, see bangor bangor
Speaker 1: get emphasize the older, saying the foolishness has got to stop.
Speaker 12: Thank you so again. So the bed is you. You're
Speaker 12: saying he will game North here who will coach a game?
Speaker 12: And I'm gonna say he's gonna lead him to.
Speaker 1: Be on the side. Now that is a certainty.
Speaker 12: She will be yes, Now, well, I think I think
Speaker 12: she'll be present like on the sideline pregame.
Speaker 1: But during the game she'll go open like the box
Speaker 1: President's box. I will I won't, I won't say the
Speaker 1: obvious thing. All right, what's twelve years old? What's on
Speaker 1: the big ship? Out of that gutter? God, we've got
Speaker 1: an expert on the pope.
Speaker 12: At least I'm not from Chicago like Pete Boota Jag
Speaker 12: screwed up my buddy faa.
Speaker 1: That's that end, when you got an expert on the pope. Pope,
Speaker 1: there's that number again, fourteen say get me out of
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Speaker 5: All I should be with you, Bill, see you later
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