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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great American, and welcome to someone ran

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon the tri State this Monday afternoon. Thank god

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<v Speaker 1>Red Spaceball is off, but back out of Tuesday, Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>and Thursday against the Chicago White Sox, the favorite team

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<v Speaker 1>of Leo the fourteenth. There's fourteen again is the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox. In fact, I've you had some time google

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Leo at the White Sox game and Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>during a cutaway in between pitches in twenty oh five

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<v Speaker 1>when the White Sox are beating up on the Houston Astronomicals.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point they were in the National League, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a cutout in which they had Pope Leo

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth in the stands cheering on the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>This is twenty years ago, sitting next to his brother

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<v Speaker 1>and his nephew. But until then, joyaan you and I

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<v Speaker 1>now is Senator John Eustead of the Great State of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio and Senator Houstead. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we talk about drug pricing and tariffs, tariffs and

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<v Speaker 1>trade of Ukraine, Gaza, Indian Pakistan, give me your comments

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<v Speaker 1>on Leo the fourteenth. Who's a fan of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox and also an Eagles fan. The White Sox

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<v Speaker 1>win the World Series, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your comments about the Pope?

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<v Speaker 2>We love the Pope, don't we.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I saw something the other day. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>this was hilarious. Is this typical Chicago? They said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we had Walter Payton, they had Michael Jordan, they have

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<v Speaker 3>Oprah Winfrey, Mike Dickka.

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<v Speaker 2>Now god, all from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's Chicago, man, right there.

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<v Speaker 1>We have coming to America. We have the Olympics, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the World Cup, we have the Pope, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got Donald Trump. Those are the foreheads.

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<v Speaker 5>Of Golden Age, the Golden Age of America.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm watching this and I watched the Trump so

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<v Speaker 1>this morning about drug costs, et cetera. So, Senator to

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<v Speaker 1>you said, I think there was some reporting that you

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<v Speaker 1>were with the President and the White House on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>discussing this issue with him. First of all, can you

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<v Speaker 1>explain the problem why we pay so much more than

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<v Speaker 1>any country in the world and what the Trump still

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, quickly, I was at the White House on Friday

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<v Speaker 3>because the President signed my first bill into law, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a regulatory repeal of Biden error regulations on household appliances,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to we wanted to drive down the cost, give

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<v Speaker 3>more consumer choice. So I was there for that and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, well, what do you think about the prescription

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<v Speaker 3>drug issue? And I said he said, he said, we

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<v Speaker 3>need most Favored Nation status. We need to pay the

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<v Speaker 3>best prices that these drug companies are given other countries

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<v Speaker 3>because we're subsidizing the rest of the world. And well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's absolutely right. American taxpayers, American consumers have been paying

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<v Speaker 3>astronomically higher prices on prescription drugs than the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the world. And he's trying to bring it into that,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, not to give America a better deal,

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<v Speaker 3>just to give America a fair deal, the same prices

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<v Speaker 3>that everybody else is paying.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bender wants to know, why do we pay five, six,

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<v Speaker 1>seven times more than any other country. We're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Africa, We're not talking about subse Ara. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Germany, England, France, Italy, talking about South Korea, China.

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<v Speaker 1>How come we pay so much?

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<v Speaker 5>There's no good reason.

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<v Speaker 3>They will suggest that the drug companies will suggest. I

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<v Speaker 3>read them this morning that they said, well, it's because

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<v Speaker 3>we have to pay for the R and D. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the R and D should be paid for by everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Spread it across the whole globe. Give Americans a fair

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<v Speaker 3>price on these drugs. I want to continue to support

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<v Speaker 3>research and development, but it shouldn't be completely on the

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<v Speaker 3>backs of the American consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, at some point, the five or six drug companies

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<v Speaker 1>there's stocks this money afternoon are quite a bit down

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<v Speaker 1>because they recover all their expenses from the American consumer

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<v Speaker 1>and then they pass on the same drugs in the

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<v Speaker 1>same formula and the same packaging all around the world

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<v Speaker 1>at little or no expense. And it's one thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the middle of Africa that poor those people

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<v Speaker 1>need help, but not the EU. There's twenty nine nations

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<v Speaker 1>in the EU that negotiate the price they pay for

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<v Speaker 1>all these miracle drugs that we create, and it's lower,

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<v Speaker 1>lower and lower. And the big farmer can get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it because they think the puts the American consumer

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<v Speaker 1>will pay out landings prices for pharmaceuticals. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>got Medicare, Medicaid also, And the President said this morning

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to tell the congressional leaders has scored differently

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<v Speaker 1>the prescriptive drug expenses paid for by Medicare and Medicaid. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this may take three to six months. But for those

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<v Speaker 1>that are somewhat shall we say, not involved in this

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<v Speaker 1>or are thinking about other issues like do we have

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<v Speaker 1>enough Barbie dolls? I mean, if you're a six year

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<v Speaker 1>old girl of Barbie dolls important from China, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this is a national policy on drug costs with what

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<v Speaker 1>the real confidence do you think this is going to work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you know President's trend and executive order.

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<v Speaker 3>If you recall in the past, drug companies have sued

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<v Speaker 3>him when he tried this in his first term, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're successful at stopping him from doing it. But it's look,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an example of leadership calling to attention and America

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<v Speaker 3>first policy. Again, he's talking about giving America as good of.

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<v Speaker 5>A deal as.

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<v Speaker 3>Canada and Germany, you know, not about as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>sub Saharan Africa. This is not about the lowest price.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just this is actually we want to pay

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<v Speaker 3>the highest price that everybody else pays. That's not exactly

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<v Speaker 3>a radical, crazy move by the president. It is it

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<v Speaker 3>is a common sense move by the President to say

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<v Speaker 3>American consumers and taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for

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<v Speaker 3>R and D for drug companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the globe.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're going to see a lot of pushback from

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<v Speaker 3>from the companies in the court. But look, this is

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<v Speaker 3>it's time that we healthcare inflation is the highest of

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<v Speaker 3>any sector of the economy in the twenty first century,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've got to start pushing back on it. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what these conversations about medicaid have been about. How are

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<v Speaker 3>we going to control the prices that are un consumer

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<v Speaker 1>No, we can't keep doing this. Since twenty nineteen, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of medical care to the federal government's gone

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<v Speaker 1>up forty percent, and the last five years forty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that another five years another forty percent. Hell, we're

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<v Speaker 1>out of business. Let's talk about the big bill.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, go ahead, thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. We're

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<v Speaker 6>paying over a trillion dollars a year in interest payments

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<v Speaker 6>on it. It's not sustainable. America needs to stop, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>financing the rest of the world. We need to be

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<v Speaker 6>treated fairly and we need to not pass on this debt.

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<v Speaker 3>To future generations. That's generational theft bill and we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>stand for it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the big beautiful bill in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the China situation, The President said this morning

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<v Speaker 1>he has an agreement from the communist red Chinese to

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<v Speaker 1>quit killing about one hundred thousand Americans every year through

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<v Speaker 1>the precursors defense. Noel said, we're also to quit ripping

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<v Speaker 1>us off. Our products can't get there, but their products

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<v Speaker 1>get here. What's the key parts of the agreement?

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<v Speaker 7>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose with communists right China, who I trust as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can throw them on the tariff relief

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<v Speaker 1>in order to let our products go into China and

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese products have to pay a price to come into America.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have not had a chance to go through

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<v Speaker 3>all the details yet. Basically, there's a sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>ninety day pause.

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<v Speaker 5>To continue to work on some of these agreements.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the top tariff rates now going to be

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<v Speaker 3>thirty percent for Chinese products coming into America. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's ten percent for American products going into China.

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<v Speaker 5>But this has been a long time in commune.

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<v Speaker 3>Since China entered the World Trade Organization in two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and one, they've been ripping off not only America but

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the world through unfair trade practices and

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<v Speaker 3>stealing our technology and American businesses. When I visit with them, Bill,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, yes, if you don't stand up for US

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<v Speaker 3>federal government, who will Because we have no recourse in

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese courts the way that a Chinese company would

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<v Speaker 3>in the American courts. They steal our stuff, we can't

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<v Speaker 3>do anything about it. And President Trump has come in

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<v Speaker 3>and said, hey, we're not going to tolerate it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>No president before him was willing to stand up to them,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's time that we get this accomplished on behalf

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<v Speaker 3>of the American consumer and taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Senator used to the American business for that man,

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<v Speaker 1>American business. I watched the performances of Canadian Kevin o'larry

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<v Speaker 1>from Shark Tank about the amount of theft by the

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<v Speaker 1>communist red Chinese of American ideas, American personnel, American it.

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<v Speaker 1>The theft absolutely happening, and there's no recourse. Somebody can't

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<v Speaker 1>go to a court in Beijing and sue for theft

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<v Speaker 1>of ip etc. But in America they're buying up farm

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<v Speaker 1>land all around our air force bases. It's got to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think one thing, Senator is the communist red

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese and the Russians and the North Koreans wod like

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<v Speaker 1>to run out the clock. They're kind of hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>the next president is going to be a printer and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just waiting to all right, quiet down, the American

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna have mid term elections. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese don't worry about mid term elections. Are you worried

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<v Speaker 1>about the idea between the media and the democratic establishment

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<v Speaker 1>and the Congress and minority leaders in both being Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna The Chinese might say, let's run out

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<v Speaker 1>the clock and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you're making an excellent point right there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt that China doesn't have to respond to

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<v Speaker 3>an electorate. They can take as long as they want

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<v Speaker 5>They can drag this out.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been one of the problems that American presidents

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<v Speaker 3>have had in negotiating with these dictators in authoritarian governments

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<v Speaker 3>is that they can be there as long as they want.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have to cut a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to be answerable as public officials to the

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<v Speaker 3>American public and and that happens every two in four years.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've you know, we've got to we've got to

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<v Speaker 3>go quickly. That's why I think President's seeing a sense

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<v Speaker 3>of urgency on this. I want to say just a

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<v Speaker 5>I'll use this one example.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a there was a guy in Dover, Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>Asia that I wanted to sell. I'm selling them, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>making them in America, but I wanted to sell into Asia,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to produce it in Asia. China had

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<v Speaker 3>me produce it there h to sell into China. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the next thing I know, a product that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>like mine has been copied and it's being selled and

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<v Speaker 3>sold in China and across Asia. He says, I have

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<v Speaker 3>no recourse. They just stole my product and now they're

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<v Speaker 3>making it there. Somebody needs to stand up for me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the kind of stuff that this is about protecting

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<v Speaker 5>We're not going to give you access to our markets.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to steal your technology when we can uh,

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<v Speaker 3>And you're right, we can't let him run out the clock, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Cenator. This is an important point that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>China and then one after about six months, and then

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<v Speaker 1>They stole the intellectual property. There was no way that

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<v Speaker 1>And they do it to millions of products every day.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect example, and it's unfortunately it's not

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<v Speaker 5>It's time for it to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about that big beautiful bill that's going

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<v Speaker 1>John houstaid, what's the two or three elements and the

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<v Speaker 3>I hope, Well, I'm hopeful that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>Because it'll be over a four trillion dollar tax increase

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<v Speaker 3>Number two, I'm hopeful that we're going to restore some

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<v Speaker 3>I hope to do some good thing for Ohio in there,

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<v Speaker 3>like changing the way that our welfare system works to

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<v Speaker 5>I hope that we can.

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<v Speaker 3>End sugary snacks and drinks in our SNAP program that's

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<v Speaker 1>What if you don't, But what if somehow the red

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<v Speaker 1>What if other Republicans say, well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>increase the deficit borrowing by another five trillion dollars. There's

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<v Speaker 3>The taxes will go up on the American taxpayer by

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I think it'll get done.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, there'll be plenty of things in this bill I

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<v Speaker 3>there going to be a lot more in it that

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<v Speaker 3>I liked and not like? Yes, of course there will be.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't let taxes go up on the American taxpayer

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<v Speaker 3>by four trillion dollars. We can't make American business less competitive,

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's why we got to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>And people will grumble and mumble, and they'll complain about

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<v Speaker 3>this or that and the other thing. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you're going to have to swallow some vinegar with

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<v Speaker 1>Are you endorsing on different matter? Are you endorsing viveg

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<v Speaker 1>Ramaswami for governor? You might know that on Friday you

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<v Speaker 1>received one hundred percent of the votes of the Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Executive Committee as an endorsement, and so did viveg Ramaswami.

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<v Speaker 1>I think got ninety five percent of the votes. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to support for veg Ramaswami Vak and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been working together very closely. I look forward to

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<v Speaker 3>to be very successful and I'm sure that over the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the next few months we'll have some things

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited to be on the same ticket with him,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully driving for more Republican victories in twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>you know, make sure that Donald Trump has a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>And last, Lady Senator John Houstead of the Great State

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio. Do you see this as a rebuke to

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Mike DeWine, who told his own executive committee not

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<v Speaker 3>Look a people, this is we have disagreements. When you

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<v Speaker 5>At the same page.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say a majority is made up of many voices.

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<v Speaker 5>If we want to be.

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<v Speaker 3>A minority, we can all get along and never disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we want to be in a majority, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>But in the end we will come.

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<v Speaker 3>Together, we will unite, and we will win in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>All right, once again, the Junior center from Ohio is

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<v Speaker 1>Senator John Houston. I'm glad you're with the President on

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<v Speaker 1>costs of prescriptive drugs and give it, give it away

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the world, and Trumpster can get

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<v Speaker 1>it done. Once again, Senator John Houston, welcome, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Bill Cunningham Show, and

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<v Speaker 1>John you're a great American. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more coming up my comments about the

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<v Speaker 1>new Pope and also about the big beautiful Bill, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the fact that if you buy prescriptive drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>great pharmacies like Adrian Pharmacy, the best in Madeira, that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow in the future you may pay less if the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party and the court system allow it. Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WW All right now, Billy cunning

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<v Speaker 1>Him the great American coming up after one o'clock. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>next from the Middle East to talk about what's happening there.

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<v Speaker 1>And after two o'clock Keith O'Brien will be here. Wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the book Charlie Hustle, which is the definitive work on

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose. He's back once again because of Wednesday night's

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<v Speaker 1>activities or replica Pete Rose Jersey. The only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be thirty five to forty thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate a baseball player who last played here almost

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<v Speaker 1>forty years ago. Pete And has lasted about in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six, and of course he was the playing manager

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<v Speaker 1>the highest of highs, the lowest of lows, and Pete

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<v Speaker 1>incredible story. And we're going to deal with that after

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<v Speaker 1>all hell breaking loose on Wednesday. Hopefully the weather will

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<v Speaker 1>submit and do what's necessary. We hope the weather complies

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<v Speaker 1>and has good weather, et cetera, which is more or

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<v Speaker 1>less predicted. But beginning after after two o'clock today, you

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about how would Pete Rose feel about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose would be excited as could be. One of

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<v Speaker 1>and have Reds fans come by and celebrate his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Not more or less happened a few months back. It

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<v Speaker 1>and they were found not guilty. Then nonetheless, the commissioner

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to come clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Marty Brennman talks about meetings with bud Sea

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<v Speaker 1>And finally Pete wrote a book, but in fact he

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<v Speaker 1>will never end. And I here we are twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>that was possible, what sixty sixty two years later. And

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<v Speaker 1>two years of that process, when Pete had me throwing

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed with him at planned City and his home,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just I was just honored to be

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<v Speaker 1>of Keith Bryn's book when in October of nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>mounted Eckersley had just a fabulous team, and the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>largely because of Jose blaming on Rijo and Billy Hatcher,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course of Barry Larkin, Todd Benzinger, Paul O'Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Braggs, Eric Davis, beat four straight the Oakland A's

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<v Speaker 1>and think of the moment. At that time in October

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen ninety, Pete Rose was in a federal prison

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<v Speaker 1>in Illinois, kind of watching the game on a small

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<v Speaker 1>screen with other inmates in a federal prison. One could

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<v Speaker 1>not imagine from September the eleventh, nineteen eighty five, when

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<v Speaker 1>he broke the all time hits record forty one ninety two,

435
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<v Speaker 1>finished up for forty two to fifty six, that that

436
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<v Speaker 1>guy at first base as March shot in the river

437
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<v Speaker 1>French Stadium is going absolutely bonkers and he's got tears

438
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<v Speaker 1>in his eye. And Pete comes out and Tommy Helms,

439
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<v Speaker 1>who just recently died number nineteen, did that that guy

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<v Speaker 1>at first base getting a call from Ronald Reagan congratulating

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<v Speaker 1>him on breaking Ty Cobb's record nineteen eighty five in August,

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<v Speaker 1>that by October nineteen ninety he'd be sitting alone in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark in a federal prison in Illinois. Impossible can't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did. And this the tragic story of a

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<v Speaker 1>gambling addict that couldn't tell the truth until he was

446
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<v Speaker 1>paid to do so. When he wrote a book and

447
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<v Speaker 1>the most magnetic fun to be around. Take him, Joe Morgan,

448
00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Bench, Marty Brenneman. That the best there was and

449
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<v Speaker 1>that era is long gone. It's the golden age of baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Between nineteen seventy nine, the Reds played in twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of all the World Series in those twenty years. You

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<v Speaker 1>might recall in nineteen seventy they lost to Oakland. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two they lost to Baltimore. The Robinson Klan

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<v Speaker 1>beat them. Then they go back in seventy five, seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>beat Boston Red Sox, then they beat they sweep the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Yankees, the best team in baseball. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>go back in nineteen ninety and to winning. So Cincinnati

458
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<v Speaker 1>was the center of the baseball world, the dominant team

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<v Speaker 1>over those twenty years, with five World Series appearances and

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<v Speaker 1>three World Series titles, and they had the highest payroll

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball. Like ninety two, ninety three, ninety four. Couldn't

462
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<v Speaker 1>get there, got closed, couldn't get there. Here we are

463
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<v Speaker 1>some thirty five years later. The Reds have not won

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff series in the last thirty years. Last one

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety five, the so called O. J. Simpson Series,

466
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<v Speaker 1>when the Reds beat up on the Dodgers and the

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<v Speaker 1>golden age of baseball. Absolutely, absolutely, it was bigger than NFL,

468
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<v Speaker 1>bigger than the NBA or college football or basketball, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was Major League Baseball. And now things are fundamentally different.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will celebrate the memories that Pete Rose gave

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<v Speaker 1>us all fabulous memories, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>For me watching Pete Rose and visiting him at a

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<v Speaker 1>half way house on Vine Street, the federal judge sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>them to prison. As if Pete Rose had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for nine months, eight nine months, and then

476
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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't let him go, had to put him in

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<v Speaker 1>a half way house with other drug addicts and other derelics.

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<v Speaker 1>Half way house in Cincinnati, And I visited him there

479
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<v Speaker 1>three or four times, and he gave me notes to

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<v Speaker 1>do call this person, take care of that was all

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<v Speaker 1>legal stuff. Can you hire family member? Absolutely and play

482
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of golf together and baseball together the course

483
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<v Speaker 1>all stars. I was honored to call him as my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>As the ears ears rolled by that we didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>each other a lot. One other sad moment, my wife

486
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<v Speaker 1>and I are in Las Vegas, and I would think

487
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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen eighteen years ago, and I said, let's go

488
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<v Speaker 1>see Pete. He's on the sixth floor of this shopping mall,

489
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<v Speaker 1>a part of Caesar's Palace. So we finally find where

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<v Speaker 1>he is, outside of memorabilia store with a card table,

491
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<v Speaker 1>sitting there in this beautiful facility, and I said, let's

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<v Speaker 1>sit here. We've sat about fifty feet away and just

493
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<v Speaker 1>watched Pete Rose signs up. Pete Rose signatures ten dollars,

494
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 1>signed jerseys, thirty five dollars, et cetera. We sat there

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00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:35.279
<v Speaker 1>for ten to fifteen minutes and Pete Rose was on

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<v Speaker 1>his phone scrolling and nobody noticed he was there at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Walked by him and I said, you know, Penny, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't walk up to him. I just can't. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sad to watch that. The Guy in nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>The Guy in nineteen sixty three took over from Don Blasingame.

501
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<v Speaker 1>The Guy seventy seventy two World Series, seventy five, seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five MVP. Pete Rose beat the Red Sox, beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees, and then his team, the Paul O'Neal team,

504
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 1>the Barry Larkin team, the Jose Rio team, the Eric

505
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Davis team, that team sweep the Oakland A's, and Pete

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a federal prison in the dark, listening on

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<v Speaker 1>a transistor radio to Marty and Joe. You couldn't write

508
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a script like that. So we'll celebrate the life and

509
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<v Speaker 1>times of Peter Redward Rose one more time and Wednesday Night,

510
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Holy Grail, et cetera, plus the release of the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>schedule and more. I also would note that Leo the fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that number again, is the new Pope. Could not

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<v Speaker 1>be more proud as a practicing Roman Catholic and as

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<v Speaker 1>an American. They have an American pope. There was one

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<v Speaker 1>other pope who spoke English, we think a thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He's known as Pope Justinian from England. Of course, i'm

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<v Speaker 1>told to the way English was spoken a thousand years ago,

518
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't understand it. But nonetheless, it's been a thousand

519
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<v Speaker 1>years since the pope spoke of the English. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is by far the first American pope. And they spent

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<v Speaker 1>his life in Chicago. And if you have time, google

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<v Speaker 1>of Pope Leo the fourteenth World Series two to five

523
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:24.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, and there's one of those clips, and it's

524
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 1>in between pitches and the White Sox are beating up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Houston Astros, who at that point was in

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00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the National League. And Fox Sports had an outcue of

527
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<v Speaker 1>a Chicago White Sox fan kind of with a cheering,

528
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a happy look on his face, and he happened to

529
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<v Speaker 1>put on national television the face of Pope Leo the fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that possible? It isn't possible, but it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you google it. I've watched it several times.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe what I'm seeing. There is the future

533
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<v Speaker 1>Holy Father at a White Sox game, and the White

534
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<v Speaker 1>Sox won the World Series, and during one of their

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<v Speaker 1>outclips in between pitches, that there he is, and he's

536
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<v Speaker 1>being he's happy about his so called White Sox about

537
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<v Speaker 1>to win the World Series in twenty oh five, and

538
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<v Speaker 1>that team is in Cincinnati Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, which

539
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable. At that point, he was only a Catholic

540
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<v Speaker 1>priest in Peru. He came back here and there he

541
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>was simply father of Robert Privos and the Augustinian priest,

542
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and the Augustinians are missionaries, so he requested assignment to

543
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a poor country, and for about eighteen years he spent

544
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<v Speaker 1>his time in Peru, where he became close to the

545
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<v Speaker 1>leader of Argentinian Catholics. Out would have been to Francis

546
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<v Speaker 1>and about two years ago France has elevated him to

547
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<v Speaker 1>be a cardinal. Now that guy, the White Sox fan,

548
00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>is the pope. He also loves the Philadelphia Eagles. Just

549
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>go at Villanova. Well, we got a pope from the

550
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<v Speaker 1>Big East, for God's sakes, first time in my life

551
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a pope that's younger than me. So he's

552
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. What do they do?

553
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>They win the Super Bowl. So right now in America,

554
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 1>we have the the Olympics are coming to La, we

555
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 1>have the World Cup, we have the pope, and we

556
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 1>have Donald Trump make America great again. It's happening right

557
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.759
<v Speaker 1>now now. I don't anticipate the media is going to

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<v Speaker 1>say it that way, but I just did. I'm damn

559
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<v Speaker 1>proud if I'm going to use the term damn to

560
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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the idea that America has a pope that's hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be in office the next twenty to twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years and beyond incredible. Now, what kind of pope's he

563
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 1>going to be. I have no idea. A couple months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Robert Prevost said on X quote Jade Vance is wrong.

565
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<v Speaker 1>Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote, and so JD. Vance said something you should

567
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 1>love your family first, and love your neighbors, love your friend,

568
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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of prioritized. And Cardinal Prevost said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong approach. But on the other hand, Prevost now,

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<v Speaker 1>Leo the fourteenth is registered as a Republican voting absentee.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he voted in the Republican primary in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume he voted Republican. He took a Republican

573
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<v Speaker 1>absentee ballot, he voted Republican in Illinois absentee in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He voted in the twenty sixteen elections. He voted in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four He appears to be more of a

576
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<v Speaker 1>Bush Republican than a Trump Republican. But nonetheless, we got

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<v Speaker 1>one of our own in the Vatican and one of

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<v Speaker 1>our own in the White House, which is unbelievable. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the radical left is unhappy with any of this. This morning,

580
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 1>they were sucking on lemons All morning, as the President

581
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<v Speaker 1>ticked off the success within Yeah, in Pakistan, the American

582
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 1>hostage seemingly has been released, eating Alexander reporting on that

583
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>has occurred. We haven't seen him yet. I guess he's

584
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in bad shape of this reporting he's out, But we

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00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>look at peace breaking out now in the Middle East.

586
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<v Speaker 1>We hope in Ukraine's meeting with Russia eyeball to eyeball

587
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, that the Left exists for one thing, one reason.

588
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>That's power. They're masters at deceiving people, and they think

589
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>they're going to lose a lot of their funding for

590
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 1>their pet projects and for their political activities because the

591
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 1>federal government, through USAID and through other grants, has funded

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party for a long time. That's all stopping

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<v Speaker 1>right now. They can't even bring themselves to compliment the

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<v Speaker 1>President on lowering drug prices if permitted to do so

595
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 1>by the federal courts, because the federal courts are the

596
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 1>nearest thing God on earth. As a federal judge, they

597
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>think they're in charge of everything. So well, let's continue

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<v Speaker 1>with more. But once again, I honor Pete Rose for

599
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<v Speaker 1>all the good things that he's done in life and

600
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<v Speaker 1>in baseball enough for the worst things that he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>I will remember Pete Rose. Finally coming up after one

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock today will be Yuri Kaufman about college campuses exploding.

603
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<v Speaker 1>And after two o'clock is Keith O'Brien, author of Charlie Hussele,

604
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<v Speaker 1>The Defensive Definitive work on Pete Rose, No Reds Baseball Today,

605
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>back out at Tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, I'm Sorry Tuesday, Wednesday,

606
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Thursday Businessman Special on Thursday. Wednesday's Pete Rose Night. It's ironic.

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<v Speaker 1>The White Sox are in town, the team of shoeless

608
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<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson, Troll fifty five Home of Your Reds, Off

609
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<v Speaker 1>of today, back out of tomorrow, a couple of games

610
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<v Speaker 1>under five hundred. The two games better at this point

611
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 1>of the season now than they were a season ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to get the five hundred and beyond. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to start hitting the baseball at some point. Troll fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five Home of Your Reds, and Pete Rose News Radio

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham, The Great America. And

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<v Speaker 1>two or three months ago we had on Yuri Kaufman,

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<v Speaker 1>who's written a book called American Intafada, Israel, the Gaza

618
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<v Speaker 1>war and the new anti Semitism, and he was such

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<v Speaker 1>a fabulous guest. So much is going on this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess next week, and the President's going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East. I guess the cutter and UAE into

622
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. See what comes of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's rumors he may head to Israel at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but the piece is breaking out everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm told that by Ambassador wit Cough so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, that Iran is ready to make a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that when hell phrase is over and we

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<v Speaker 1>have complete splits on American campuses today most of the

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<v Speaker 1>graduations have taken place, and I kind of have two eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see what goes on before I say, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>this is wonderful what's happening in the world. But Uri Kaufman,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let's deal first with what's happening in Gaza. And it

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<v Speaker 1>appears the President's going to be in the Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>in two or three days from now to try to

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<v Speaker 1>work out situation. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have a wait and see attitude about what's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm going to go wait and see.

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<v Speaker 8>It is a lot going on in a very short

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<v Speaker 8>period of time. Things have a way of changing very quickly.

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<v Speaker 8>People have a way of planting stories that are frankly false.

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<v Speaker 8>There's actually a bit of a scandal going on right

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<v Speaker 8>now in Israel. It's called cut our Gate, as in Watergate,

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<v Speaker 8>only with Cutter, because it turned out that Cutter was

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<v Speaker 8>paying people to plant stories Israeli media that were completely false,

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<v Speaker 8>and one of them was actually dangerous. One of the

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<v Speaker 8>stories they planted was that Egypt was massing an army

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<v Speaker 8>on Israel's border, perhaps with hostile intent. None of it

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<v Speaker 8>was true. Why they would do something so crazy is

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<v Speaker 8>beyond me. But the point is there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>information flying around in Israel right now, and it's really

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<v Speaker 8>hard to say what's true and what's fault. I will

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<v Speaker 8>say this though, Ambassador Hu could be probably one of

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<v Speaker 8>the finest ambassadors we have working for US right now.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously an outstanding governor, was a major candidate for president.

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<v Speaker 8>Came in second place back in eighty one eight states

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<v Speaker 8>in the primaries, lost to John McCain. No shame in that,

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<v Speaker 8>and he said there's no break at all between President

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<v Speaker 8>Trump and pre Minister at Yo. So I'll go with

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<v Speaker 8>that as reliable as they come.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a free, open society, of course, Cuttergate is available.

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<v Speaker 1>And what the media in this country plays up loudly

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that there's part of Israeli society that

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<v Speaker 1>thinks the Israeli armies should get the hell out of Gaza,

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<v Speaker 1>give it back over to Hamas, get the hostages home.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great thing that the last American hostage is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be released soon, if not been released already,

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<v Speaker 1>and eating Alexander, and that's a good thing. But so

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying from Israeli media, and I was there a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. I loved my visit to Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what I was seeing as a practicing Roman Catholic,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the new Pope, etc. However, you take it

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<v Speaker 1>with a grain of salt. If there was an Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>real public relation pool about whether or not ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>more of the IDF reserves should be called up to

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<v Speaker 1>have the final solutions, so to speak, in Goza, to

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<v Speaker 1>clean it out of a moss, what would the vote

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<v Speaker 1>PSA the great majority of Israelis know what's at stake here.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, absolutely, Now I understand is it's a democracy. And

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<v Speaker 8>what happened in America in World War Two, where the

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<v Speaker 8>public rallied completely behind a war effort for the entire duration.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the war. That was a one off.

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<v Speaker 8>Every war that America has ever fought in its history

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<v Speaker 8>had its anti war faction had its controversy, whether it

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<v Speaker 8>was the Civil War, it's the Revolutionary War. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>imagine protesting against George Washington. Well, there was a faction

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<v Speaker 8>that did. I don't have to tell you what went

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<v Speaker 8>on during Vietnam or career. That's the typical in a democracy,

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<v Speaker 8>people are going to have different points of view. Israel

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<v Speaker 8>is no different from us. Now, what the people who

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<v Speaker 8>are anti war, though, are saying is downright silly. What

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<v Speaker 8>they're saying is as follows. They're not saying they want

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<v Speaker 8>to leave themas in power. They understand what that means.

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<v Speaker 8>It means go home and prepare the eight nine year

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<v Speaker 8>olds for the next night, October seventh attack. What the

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<v Speaker 8>people are saying is simply this, let's get the hostages back,

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<v Speaker 8>let's sign a ceasefire agreement, and then we'll wait for

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<v Speaker 8>Hamas to make one little misstep and violate the ceasefire,

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<v Speaker 8>and then we'll go in and destroy Kamas. Now that

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<v Speaker 8>logic is downright ridiculous. Benjamin and Yo heard it from

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<v Speaker 8>his head of the shin Bet, and he frankly blew

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<v Speaker 8>up and he said, you're an idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's right.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a ridiculous thing to think that the international community

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<v Speaker 8>is going to sit back and let Israel do something

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<v Speaker 8>like that. The Maas has said the only way they

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<v Speaker 8>will agree to such a ceasefire is if it is

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<v Speaker 8>guaranteed by America, Russia, Turkey, the European Union, in China,

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<v Speaker 8>a UN.

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<v Speaker 4>Security Council resolution. I mean the idea that is that would.

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<v Speaker 8>Just be able over some infraction to ignore that and

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<v Speaker 8>go back in the later.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just flat out ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>So I would take all this with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 8>The Israeli public is solidly behind the war goals.

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<v Speaker 5>The Maas has.

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<v Speaker 8>Simply got to go otherwise, we're just going to be

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<v Speaker 8>doing this again and again and again forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would note you're a Kaufman that repeatedly there's

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<v Speaker 1>been Palestinians themselves that have said, even they can't take

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas anymore, and when someone surfaces, they're beheaded. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinian Arab suffering is caused by Hamas and by Iran indirectly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about hamas, about building schools and hospitals and

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<v Speaker 1>bridges and factories. It's not about infra structure, not about

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<v Speaker 1>creating jobs or nurturing a culture, or volunteerism or advancing education.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about using the billions and billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>given to so called Gaza over the past several years,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning at least twenty oh five, twenty years when Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out. It's all about one thing, which is killing

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<v Speaker 1>the jew wherever they might be located, in killing Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not going to change, which brings me to

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<v Speaker 1>my second part. Right now, we're told that Iran is

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<v Speaker 1>on the verge of peace and it's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of their nuclear bomb nuclear missile technology. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that when Hell Freeze is over, and I hope we're

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<v Speaker 1>not suckered into Iran once again to believing they want peace.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need nuclear power in Iran for electricity. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the cheapest electricity right now. In the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost free. They want to get these nuclear centrifugures

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<v Speaker 1>up to weapons great, and they want to use it

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<v Speaker 1>and marry it with a missile and destroy Israel. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I right or wrong?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you're hundred percent right, And you know the proof

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<v Speaker 8>is really very very simple. The administration is said, if Iran,

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<v Speaker 8>for some bizarre reason wants a civilian nuclear program, they

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<v Speaker 8>can have a civilian nuclear program. It's like twenty countries

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<v Speaker 8>that do. And the way it's done is real simple.

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<v Speaker 8>They import the nuclear fuel into those countries. It's at

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<v Speaker 8>a three and a half percent enrichment level, which is

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<v Speaker 8>well below what you can use.

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<v Speaker 2>In a weapon.

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<v Speaker 8>You can use it for civilian purposes, you can use

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<v Speaker 8>it in a power plant, you can use it for

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<v Speaker 8>nuclear medicine, but you can't use it at three and

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<v Speaker 8>a half percent for a bomb. For that and you

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<v Speaker 8>close it a ninety percent. So what they do is

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<v Speaker 8>they import the three and a half percent enriched uranium

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<v Speaker 8>into those countries, then they take back the spent fuel.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a great system. It's been around for decades, it

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<v Speaker 8>works really well. It's been offered to Iran, and of

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<v Speaker 8>course Iron keeps saying well, no, we don't want that.

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<v Speaker 8>We want to enrich uranum. Well, the minute they say

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<v Speaker 8>they want to enrich uranium is only one reason why

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<v Speaker 8>anyone would want to do that. So it's pretty obvious

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<v Speaker 8>you know where they're where they're pointed, and you know

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<v Speaker 8>this is not a normal country like Russia, like a

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<v Speaker 8>China that could be deterred these guys. If we've learned

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<v Speaker 8>one thing from the October seven attack, it's that they

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<v Speaker 8>don't think the way we do. And their leaders have

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<v Speaker 8>been saying outwardly, look why you know, raise our kids,

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<v Speaker 8>educate them. We don't want that. We just want to

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<v Speaker 8>kill the Jews. We just want to create a caliphate.

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<v Speaker 8>And that is what Ayatolakomami said when he was alive.

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<v Speaker 8>He used to say the revolution was not about water,

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<v Speaker 8>the price of watermelons. But by that he met My

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<v Speaker 8>job is not to produce a better economy, job the

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<v Speaker 8>things that you and I take for granted from our government,

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<v Speaker 8>he said. Our job is to spread Islam, radical Islam.

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<v Speaker 8>Our job is to create a caliphate. Having a nuclear

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<v Speaker 8>weapon and hands like that makes a very very dangerous world.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not just for Israel, but really for everybody.

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<v Speaker 8>So I could just go back to Gaza for a second.

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<v Speaker 8>I would just point out one thing. They constantly go

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<v Speaker 8>on television, people who are sympathetic to the Palestinians and

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<v Speaker 8>the Palestinians themselves, and they talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About the suffering in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 8>And I have to say, all of it is true,

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<v Speaker 8>all of it is heartbreaking. But there's a real, real

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<v Speaker 8>simple response.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's so terrible, why don't you just make peace?

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<v Speaker 8>Why don't you just recognize israel so called right to exist?

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<v Speaker 8>Why don't you just agree to the two state solution,

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<v Speaker 8>which Israel and Benjamin and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed two decades ago.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I watch other media, and particular liberal media,

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<v Speaker 8>legacy media, and this goes.

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<v Speaker 2>On and on and on, and they go on and

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<v Speaker 2>on about.

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<v Speaker 8>How they're suffering, and it never even occurs to anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Just ask that simple question, Well, if it's.

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<v Speaker 8>So terrible, why don't you just end it? Why don't

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<v Speaker 8>you just sign a peace treating? What is stopping you?

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<v Speaker 8>The thing to always remember is Israel is not waging

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<v Speaker 8>war against Gaza.

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<v Speaker 4>Gaza is waging.

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<v Speaker 8>War against Israel. That's the core problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Kaufman, This could end tomorrow, the next day, surrender,

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<v Speaker 1>Amasa is lost, put down your weapons, invite the Israelis in,

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<v Speaker 1>release the hostages, and let's talk about riek instruction whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they might be. But whether it's Hamas or has blap oko, haram,

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<v Speaker 1>just Taliban, just is whatever term you want to use.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a culture of death. It's not a culture of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the German Nazi soldiers wanted to live, the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers after World War Two, they wanted to live. But

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<v Speaker 1>the goal of these Islamic extreme groups is to die.

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<v Speaker 1>Their purpose is not to build schools and a nurture

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<v Speaker 1>and culture or like they're channeling their fury against Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've been given the opportunity countless times, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>balked every time, using the billions in order to reward

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<v Speaker 1>suicide bombers, giving stipends and naming streets and parks after

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<v Speaker 1>those who murder innocent men, women and children, and they

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<v Speaker 1>doctrinate their own children with the hatred, hatred of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jew in the Western culture. And this isn't a way

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<v Speaker 1>to build a nation, it's a way. It's a suicide cult.

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<v Speaker 1>And our media and those ridiculous students at Columbia and

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<v Speaker 1>at Harvard and Yale and all over the country, the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Washington. They're paid for their bought and paid

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<v Speaker 1>for an event. Don't like it here, get the hell out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is it's a culture of death. And

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<v Speaker 1>until Iran and Hamas says, you know, we're done, We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to build any more bombs and missiles. All

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<v Speaker 1>this aid we're going to use to feed our own people.

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<v Speaker 1>Those responsible in Gaza for the suffering of those millions

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<v Speaker 1>of Gozin's about two million is Hamas and Iran they're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones responsible.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh absolutely. And you know, we're in a unique moment.

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<v Speaker 8>We're in a moment now where there's been this hideous war.

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<v Speaker 8>It's gone on for about a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 8>Israel is very very very close to getting rid of Kamas.

840
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<v Speaker 8>We're already seeing protests in Gaza. We're seeing Kamas murdering

841
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 8>its own people to stay in power. They've been shooting

842
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 8>people in the streets. There was one guy, a prominent guy,

843
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 8>who was caught on camera. They caught him, they tortured

844
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 8>him to death. The family then retaliated against Kamas. They

845
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 8>killed two Kamas guys. So you know, things are happening there.

846
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 8>Where Hamas is already is grip on power is starting

847
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 8>to teet. And now think of it this way. Imagine

848
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 8>we're closing in on Berlin. We've had this horrible, hideous war,

849
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 8>we're about to win, and then someone says, well, oh, no,

850
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.599
<v Speaker 8>we need to stop because of the innocent German civilians

851
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 8>and all the suffering.

852
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 4>So let's have a ceasefire. Let's leave the Nazis in power.

853
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 8>We know they're going to reconstant, you know they're going

854
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 8>to attack us again, but you know we can't finish

855
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 8>the job because of the innocent German civilians and all

856
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 8>the suffering they've been It's ridiculous. This logic has never

857
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 8>been employed in any conflict in the history of the

858
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 8>world against anyone except for Israel. And so the question

859
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 8>I think that I say the people in legacy media

860
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 8>propagating this have to ask themselves is why is Israel different?

861
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 8>Why is this the only war in the history of

862
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.239
<v Speaker 8>the world where country A invades country B and when

863
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 8>country B is about to win, we so, no, no,

864
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 8>you how to stop because you know the people of

865
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 8>country A are suffering when they could just sign a

866
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 8>peace treaty. There's just no reason for any of this

867
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 8>to go on, And all it does is leave the

868
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 8>Islamo Nazis in power, league Clamas in power and prepare

869
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 8>us for the next round.

870
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 4>It's really just a sad, sad story.

871
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Can you address yourself briefly to what's happening on college campuses?

872
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Graduation proceedings are happening everywhere. I think Columbia is having

873
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>one in a couple of days here they may have

874
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to shut it down. What's happening to the several thousand

875
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 1>seemingly students a University of Washington or Columbia, University of

876
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Chicago that are Hamas chapters and they're in a sense

877
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>permitted to run wild. Who's paying him? Do they believe

878
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the crap coming out of their mouth? That stinks? What

879
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 1>is happening to college campuses? Uriy Kaufman.

880
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 8>It's a good question. So guy named Mark Kolakoff looked

881
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 8>at this and what he found was this is more

882
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 8>a phenomenon of elite universities than ordinary universities like the

883
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 8>one I went to.

884
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 4>I went to a city.

885
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.840
<v Speaker 2>College at night. They don't have any trouble there.

886
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 8>It's primarily a problem of our elite colleges of Harvard

887
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 8>of Columbia places like that. Some say it's because Qatar

888
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 8>has poured billions of dollars into those universities and they've

889
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 8>used that money to indoctrinate students. I myself am not

890
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 8>a big fan of that theory. I mean, I think

891
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 8>that certainly is a problem, and I think that's something

892
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 8>we ought to look at and whether we want to

893
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 8>allow that to go on. I think it just has

894
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 8>more to do with the fact that these are schools that, look,

895
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 8>they tilt left. We all know that, and I think

896
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 8>we're in a moment culturally where look, as I've said

897
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 8>many times, let's just do a simple thought experiment. Let's

898
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 8>assume argument's sake, every fact of the October seven attack

899
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.679
<v Speaker 8>happened exactly the way it did.

900
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's just change one fact.

901
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 8>So, just to go a little quick recap, twelve hundred

902
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 8>people murdered, many many women raped. It enjoyed universal support

903
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 8>among the public. The Palestinian public regularly refer to us

904
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.679
<v Speaker 8>as apes and pigs. You don't believe me, go on

905
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 8>Google type and use apes and pigs. And then one

906
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.000
<v Speaker 8>final fact. The Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars for

907
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 8>Gaza what they would term the innocent civilians. Okay, let's

908
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 8>assume all that happened, but the attackers were Germans or

909
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 8>Ukrainians or white stuff Africas, in other words, white people

910
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 8>who said Jews are apes and picks. Do you really

911
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 8>think Biden would have given them billions? And now let's

912
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.239
<v Speaker 8>hold the thought for a moment again, stay with me

913
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.480
<v Speaker 8>on this thought experiment in this parallel universe. Again, white

914
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 8>supremacists not Arab supremacists, right, but they murdered twelve hundred

915
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 8>black people, and they rape black women and it enjoys

916
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.000
<v Speaker 8>universal support. And then a Republican administration says, We're going

917
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 8>to give billions of dollars of a to the innocent

918
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 8>white supremacist civilians. The white supremacists who say at Blacks

919
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 8>are apes and pigs, they'd be rioting in the streets.

920
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 8>In other words, what we have here is a classic

921
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 8>case of cognitive dissonance in the elite universities. They've been

922
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 8>indoctrinated to fight for people of color in every circumstance. Now,

923
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 8>the problem is that makes no sense in this fact

924
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 8>pattern with Israel and the Palestinians. So then they changed

925
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 8>the facts to fit the narrative. And that is why

926
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 8>right after the October seven attack, Barack Obama tweeted that

927
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.239
<v Speaker 8>we have to face facts. It's unclean hands on both

928
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 8>sides because he termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was

929
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 8>no occupation ISRAELI withdrawn eighteen years before.

930
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Just made it up.

931
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 8>The New York Times makes up stuff about Israel all

932
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.559
<v Speaker 8>the time. It all falls into the same narrative because

933
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 8>they want to back people of color against what they

934
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 8>perceive as a white group of privileged, the Jews, and

935
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 8>so they change facts to fit that narrative.

936
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, highly educated, generally white females. I think at a

937
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Columbia eighty percent were highly educated white females that are

938
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>at the forefront of this too. I guess they make

939
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>their Misrael lives seem relevant. But the name of the

940
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>book is American Intafauna, Israel, the Gaza War, and the

941
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>new anti Semitism. I didn't think Columbia University itself in

942
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 1>New York City whatever be declared to be antisemitic, but

943
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 1>clearly it is. It's elite universities, not the trad schools. Uh,

944
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not the case. Not every university's the elite telling

945
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 1>us how to behave, how to think. Once again, you're

946
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a coffin. Let's keep the lines of communication open. You're

947
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 1>a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill

948
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Show. And the truth will set us all free.

949
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yuri, it will, And thanks for having me.

950
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:18.639
<v Speaker 2>It's always just so great to be here.

951
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Thank you. Let's continue with more. There

952
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it is, and uh, this week's going to be consequential. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

953
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. And thank god we have the

954
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 1>right guy in the in the White House right now.

955
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham on seven hundred W L W H Pete Rose.

956
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>What a man really want from? Enough to shape, Not

957
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 1>fancy perfume, fancy battle dot, fancy prices. No, a man

958
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to smell like a man. That's something he wants

959
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to be who every friends, That's something about a man

960
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>wants to feel like a man.

961
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 9>Man. Hello, Hello, Piet and I'm Skulls.

962
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm broadcasting.

963
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.159
<v Speaker 1>No segment of the man's got to smell like a man,

964
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure, Willie Wednesday night, it all happens. I

965
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>have Keith O'Brien coming up in about fifteen twenty minutes

966
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 1>wrote the defenditive book on Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle, The

967
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Life and Times of Pete Rose during the Golden Age

968
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of Baseball between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety. That was

969
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the golden age of baseball. Would you agree? Amen to that? Baby?

970
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Think of the stars in the game and things are

971
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 1>different today now now I don't know what it is.

972
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 10>Join us for the seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution

973
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 10>Pete Party presented by Columbia Hunday. It'll be live from

974
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.559
<v Speaker 10>the Holy Grail on Wednesday afternoon starting at three, all

975
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 10>leading up to Pete Rose Knight, which I heard is

976
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 10>sold out and and uh on Wednesday night at the

977
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.840
<v Speaker 10>Big Big Ballpark downtown Sro will he the STUOTU Reporters

978
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 10>of prop service, every local Thamestar heating at air conditioning

979
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 10>dealers Thamestar quality you can feel in Cincinnati. Col Sheldon

980
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 10>Braun at five Broun Heating at five one, three, three, eight, five,

981
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:22.480
<v Speaker 10>seventy seven sixty five.

982
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But ke let me put the finger on when I

983
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>see some of the problems with the Reds. Are you ready?

984
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead? Matt McClain hitting one sixty five, Jake Fraley

985
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>two to oh five, Freedom not Bad two seventy six,

986
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Steer one eighty eight. Uh, you got Blake Dunn

987
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 1>one point fifty, Rhyese Hines two hundred, Gavin Lux two

988
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>eighty not bad, Todler Stevenson two thirty three, Will Benson

989
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 1>zero nine to one. Can you smell what I'm cooking?

990
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>They're not hitting the ball, you know what I'm saying, or.

991
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.159
<v Speaker 10>Not, whether they're striking out like at least at ten

992
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 10>times a game. Uh, they're shut out for a seventh

993
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 10>time already this season. Uh, they're they're gonna be close

994
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 10>to the White Sox mark of last year.

995
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Pretty the where they're going, well, they're gonna end up

996
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>with thirty shutouts, which is set a record.

997
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 10>I mean, the the the road trip was a disaster.

998
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.000
<v Speaker 10>That guy ron at Ron L. Blanco rolled up eleven

999
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 10>strikeouts yesterday and now the and Terry Francota says, flush it,

1000
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 10>regroup today, come back and start winning tomorrow.

1001
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 1>And who do the Reds play Wednesday night? The Chicago

1002
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 1>White Sox, the home of shoeless Joe Jackson, correct and

1003
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Andrew bet attendee.

1004
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 10>Well, apparently Willy he's on the i L with a

1005
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 10>calf injury. Not sure, not sure if he's I think

1006
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 10>he's about halfway through. Of course the i L stint,

1007
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 10>so I'm not sure mister Andrew will be playing.

1008
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I taught about a hit. Uh let's see what let's see?

1009
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 9>Uh?

1010
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.280
<v Speaker 10>All, there is a report from the Florence Freedom today

1011
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 10>that one of their pitchers, Bo Blanchard, has been signed

1012
00:53:59.119 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 10>by the Reds.

1013
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Get somebody in here. How about that guy from all

1014
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Or High School? Who Brett Souter? No, the guy who

1015
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 1>pitches the quarterback? What's his name.

1016
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:10.480
<v Speaker 8>Was?

1017
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Yoh? Yeah? How about yeah? Put him in?

1018
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 8>Why?

1019
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>How about putting him in?

1020
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 10>The USCAA baseball World Series is underway. Willie and Penn

1021
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 10>State Skyckel edging out Miami Middletown today in eleven innings,

1022
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 10>nine to eight. So Miami Middletown will played tomorrow at

1023
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.159
<v Speaker 10>ten am in a loser's bracket game.

1024
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens.

1025
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 10>Longtime Jack Sendell baseball coach David Bradshaw won his five

1026
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:43.400
<v Speaker 10>hundred and fiftieth game when the Eagles beat Southwestern a

1027
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 10>Hanover Friday night in an upset. Coach Bradshaw has been

1028
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.760
<v Speaker 10>going at it since nineteen ninety five. He played in

1029
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 10>the Montreal Expos organization and he's thirty fifth on Indiana's

1030
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 10>all time win list.

1031
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So congratulations to coach Bradshaw. How about this? The man

1032
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>accused of killing Larry Henderson with a car is suing

1033
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Police and Hamlet County Sheriff's department over his treatment

1034
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>by police after his arrest. The lawsuit, filed today in

1035
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>federal court, claims that authorities violated the murderers due process rights,

1036
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 1>used excessive force, conspired to interfere with the civil rights,

1037
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and falsely imprisoned him. He was the one taken out

1038
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of the car that he used to kill the police officer.

1039
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>He's now suing hamlin A County. Andy Beck, the lawyer

1040
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that filed this lawsuit, assuming the lawyers involved, should have

1041
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 1>his license pulled.

1042
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 10>Willie Trey Hendrickson released a statement to ESPN today. No

1043
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.320
<v Speaker 10>communication has taken place between his camp and the organization

1044
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:58.199
<v Speaker 10>post NFL draft.

1045
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>The team is no longer communicating with him.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh it's hard to reach a resolution when there's no discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. Seg Man.

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<v Speaker 1>The murderer I know where you're coming from, says that

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00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 1>he was intimidated when deputies lined up behind him during

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00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 1>his May third arrayment in Hamley County Municipal Court. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>No reasonable law enforcement agency would subject a pre trial

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00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:30.519
<v Speaker 1>defendant to this level of humiliation, psychological warfare, and a

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00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 1>coordinated plan to discriminate and punish him, intimidate the murderer.

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00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 10>They were showing support for the for the for Larry Henderson,

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00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 10>and that's intimidation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's America. Well they did this wrong, said Antoinette Holloway,

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00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 1>who filed the complaint on Hinton's behalf boy Antoinette Holiday.

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00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I assume she's an attorney. She claims her murderer client

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00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 1>was intimidated. Also, Willie, it looks like, let's see.

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<v Speaker 10>The National Football League announced this morning the opening game

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00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 10>of the season Thursday night, September fourth, with Chris Collinsworth.

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00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 10>It'll be Dallas at the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.

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00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Eagles number one fan is Leo the fourteenth. There's that

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00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 1>number again. Now he's an Eagles fan. I thought he

1065
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 1>was a White Sox. Both the video of the Pope

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00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:31.719
<v Speaker 1>five World Series.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I know it's unbelievable. There is show you on TV.

1068
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.400
<v Speaker 10>It's like, Oh, there he is. He's a pope, he

1069
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.800
<v Speaker 10>was an archbishop. Then a Spanish newspaper there's a rumors

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00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 10>going around tomorrow the National Football League will be will

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<v Speaker 10>be announcing the international games.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa so?

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<v Speaker 10>But this Spanish newspaper there were there was speculation running

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00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 10>rampant throughout the pro football ranks that the Bengals would

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00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 10>be playing the Dolphins in Spain. That's how you're saying, Madrid,

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00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 10>that's what you're saying. Mentioned back in March.

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00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 1>That's what you're saying.

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00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm just reporting what they're saying. What are they

1079
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.840
<v Speaker 10>saying now? This Spanish newspaper says, hold on their wise, gentlemen.

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00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:11.400
<v Speaker 5>What is it?

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00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:15.400
<v Speaker 10>Pair appears that the Washington Commanders are now going to

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00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:19.119
<v Speaker 10>play Miami on November the sixteenth. That means maybe the

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00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 10>Bengals will be playing Thanksgiving or Christmas maybe or maybe

1084
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 10>another international game.

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00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Who knows. The murderer, I won't mention his name is

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00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 1>seeking damages and attorney themes for being intimidated, Oh boy,

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00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>during his arraignment. Does it ever end?

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00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 10>NCAA Golf Regional Willy right now in Urbana, Illinois u

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00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.119
<v Speaker 10>ses Ryan Ford is third, tied for third at three under.

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00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 10>A couple of Wright State gentlemen, Andrew Flynn and Shane

1091
00:58:56.079 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 10>Ocha are tied for eleventh at minus one. Dayton ben

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00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.320
<v Speaker 10>Core's is one over. They're they're they're playing as individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Jeff Beckham, my friend, the brother of

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00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.079
<v Speaker 1>David Beckham, the soccer star. Yeah, had a hole in

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00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:14.119
<v Speaker 1>one today at four Bridges. How about that, Jeff Beckham?

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<v Speaker 1>How about gratulations? How about this text? Tell seig to

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00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 1>get his head out of his ass. They're the Florence Yawls,

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00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>not the Lawrence Freedom. Oh sorry, what is wrong with

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00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 1>what that is? From your buddy the wild Man? Tell

1100
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>me what is wrong with seg Man? Would you care

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00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to comment to the wild Man?

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<v Speaker 6>Lee?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm men Leal like him, kind of like the murderer

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00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:41.719
<v Speaker 1>who's suing the sheriff's department for intimidation. Yeah, let's see

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00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 1>what else?

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00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 10>Oh Wrestling News Pro Wrestling or Terry Brunk, known to

1107
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 10>wrestling fans as Sabou, has passed away at age sixty.

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00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:55.800
<v Speaker 10>He made himself a He made a name for himself

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00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 10>an the e CW in nineteen nineties, a two time

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00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 10>ec WH champion was a big favorite of Kid Chris,

1111
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.760
<v Speaker 10>and he was known for being He was known for

1112
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 10>being in matches involving barbed wire, chains and tables.

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01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:14.119
<v Speaker 1>That's my kind of guy there. And his uncle was

1114
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the chic. Really yes, wow, going back in time, a

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01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.239
<v Speaker 1>bit so excited to get his head out of his ass. No,

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01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the Florence jawls, not the Florence Freedom says, what is

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01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:28.880
<v Speaker 1>wrong with him? Would you go to comment on that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Not publicly? No, not publicly? Right here, you're number one

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01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 1>whoever did that one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>Also, Willie, we want to say congrats to one of

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01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 10>our own, Brian super Combs and his partner Adam Cornett.

1122
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 10>Brian Combs and Adam Cornette teamed up this past weekend

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01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:51.760
<v Speaker 10>and the men's doubles finished second overall in the forty

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01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:57.719
<v Speaker 10>plus division of the Classic Classic Pickleball Tournament held at Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Part pretty well, didn't he?

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01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.079
<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 10>Brian Combs and Adam Cornett second overall in the forty

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<v Speaker 10>plus men's doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats and pickleball. I want to know, seg Man, we

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01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:12.199
<v Speaker 1>have about a minute remaining. Then I got the definitive

1131
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>work on Peter Edward Rose coming up in about ten

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01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:21.599
<v Speaker 1>minutes from Keith O'Brien. Yeah, did Pete Rose ever give

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01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you a shower? Just say yes or no?

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<v Speaker 9>No, Sem Dennison is the last man I gave a

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01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 9>shower to.

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01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.679
<v Speaker 1>That is are you calling Pete Rose a liar? That

1137
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 1>is AI?

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01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:32.559
<v Speaker 11>No?

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01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:37.320
<v Speaker 10>I didn't have AI twenty years ago? Oh six, we

1140
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.440
<v Speaker 10>say nineteen years ago. I was in the room when

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01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.519
<v Speaker 10>they when they edited that, did you? I was in

1142
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 10>the room when they edited that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Pete Man?

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01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.639
<v Speaker 9>Dennison is the last man I gave a shower too.

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01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, are you calling him a liar? And

1146
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not the AI? It didn't exist. No, because I

1147
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want wild Man texting you idiots? Sorry.

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01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 10>I mean, you know, only one guy doesn't make any

1149
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:07.440
<v Speaker 10>mistakes like him. He must be the Sportsman's Almighty, because

1150
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.039
<v Speaker 10>there's only one Almighty that doesn't make any mistakes.

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01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.639
<v Speaker 1>The second almighty's in the Vatican right now. Bingo, Hey,

1152
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 1>how about this one? Give seg hell nice to see

1153
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you too. They're in his sake. Yeah, you got fans on,

1154
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Well why do you call such anger? People just don't

1155
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 1>like it? Because I want people to listen, how about

1156
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Least too? What about how about kid Rock? How

1157
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 1>about Kid Chris Kid Rock? How about what's he on?

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01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 1>He's on? He's introducing Trump? Oh, I thought he's he

1159
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was on fifteen thirty down and dirty. Say get me

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<v Speaker 1>out of the student's report.

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<v Speaker 10>Pleon honor of a rainy day coming up here in

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01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 10>the Tri State, would you give Pete Rose a shower?

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<v Speaker 10>We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what there's severe constitutional issues here.

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<v Speaker 12>There are cases that say you can't do this, and

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01:02:57.480 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 12>we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Joe calls in with a comment, Wow, the defamation

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit against that just hit the inquiry. Yeah, good night, Irene. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got some's neck now here. I got some comment

1170
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:13.480
<v Speaker 1>about you and Rob Butcher. I can't say on the air.

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01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll show it to you on seven hundred WLD Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Cunning in the Great American, of course, the definitive work

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<v Speaker 1>on the Pete Rose is entitled Charlie Hustle The Rise

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01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and Fall of Pete Rose in the Last Glory Days

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<v Speaker 1>of Baseball, came out about a year ago, of course,

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01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.360
<v Speaker 1>written by the bio for Pete Rose. Cincinnati and Keith O'Brien,

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01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times bestselling author. It is the definitive

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01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 1>work on Pete Rose start to finish, and once again,

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01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Keith O'Brien, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And one

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01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 1>of the terms you use in your book title the

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01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Last Glory Days of Baseball, And I have a sense

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01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:06.639
<v Speaker 1>you're right, because between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety that

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01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 1>they were like twenty World Series and the Reds were

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01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.119
<v Speaker 1>in five of the twenty, twenty percent more than any

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01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 1>other team, and they won three of them. After nineteen

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01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 1>ninety things changed fundamentally. Why did you use the term

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<v Speaker 1>the last glory days of baseball?

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<v Speaker 11>It's a great question. Bill, Good to be back with you. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>in the time that Pete Rose was in professional baseball,

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01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:34.280
<v Speaker 11>everything changes. It's a stunning period of time. If you

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01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:37.199
<v Speaker 11>think about it. Rose is a rookie in the minors

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01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:41.079
<v Speaker 11>in nineteen sixty and of course he's banned from baseball

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<v Speaker 11>in the summer of nineteen eighty nine. That's thirty seasons

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01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 11>of professional baseball, and you know, everything shifts in that time,

1195
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:52.920
<v Speaker 11>and really what it comes down to is money. You know,

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01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:59.639
<v Speaker 11>the dawn of the free agency era fundamentally changes the

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01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:02.920
<v Speaker 11>play years, it changes the teams, it changes the sports,

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01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 11>and the lack of a salary cap structure in baseball

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<v Speaker 11>has created this this ecosystem where there are essentially two

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01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:20.000
<v Speaker 11>kinds of teams. There are the halves, the teams with

1201
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 11>the money, the teams with the big lucrative local television contract,

1202
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:29.119
<v Speaker 11>and then there are the have nots. And that makes

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01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 11>it incredibly for small market teams like the Reds to compete.

1204
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 11>In order in order to compete these days, small market

1205
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 11>teams basically have to get everything right. They have to

1206
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 11>be perfect. Yeah, and it's very hard to do well.

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01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 1>The other thing about this Pete Rose began with Fred

1208
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson and Don blasting Game and Frank Robinson. My favorite

1209
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 1>player was Veda Pinson number twenty eight. It was a

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01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 1>different error completely in which the players had to get

1211
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 1>off season jobs to make ends meet. I can recall

1212
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but Red's baseball players selling cars and working in clothing

1213
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 1>stores and being roasted agents. And in Pete Rose's case,

1214
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 1>he was one of our own improbable. What was the

1215
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.400
<v Speaker 1>lowest moment of Pete Rose's life? I suspect I know

1216
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the answer, because I was with him for a few

1217
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of those moments myself. What do you say, Keith O'Brien,

1218
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.239
<v Speaker 1>was the lowest moment of Pete Rose's.

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01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Life before his banishment? You mean before?

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01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, before.

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<v Speaker 11>I think if Pete were alive, the answer that he

1222
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.360
<v Speaker 11>would give to that question, Bill is that it was

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01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 11>the death of his father in December nineteen seventy. His father,

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01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.039
<v Speaker 11>Harry Francis Rose, a better known on the West Side

1225
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:53.440
<v Speaker 11>as Big Pete's you know, his father, you know, was

1226
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.199
<v Speaker 11>a difficult man. He was a hard charging man. He

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01:06:56.360 --> 01:07:00.960
<v Speaker 11>demanded a lot from his oldest son, little pet He

1228
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:04.079
<v Speaker 11>really wanted him to be a successful athlete. It was

1229
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:08.039
<v Speaker 11>very important to Harry Francis Rose that little Pete could

1230
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 11>be good at sports. And I think that took a

1231
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 11>toll on Pete. But he never acknowledged that, you know.

1232
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:19.960
<v Speaker 11>He he said he worshiped his father and certainly he

1233
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 11>did want to please him. And I think it's notable

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01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:28.559
<v Speaker 11>that he often mentioned his father when telling his story.

1235
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:33.599
<v Speaker 11>You know, he said that's one reason why he slammed

1236
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 11>into Ray Fosse in the nineteen seventy All Star Game

1237
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 11>at home plate in the bottom of the twelfth ning

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01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.840
<v Speaker 11>was that his father was sitting right there behind home plate,

1239
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 11>and he he didn't want to play soft with his

1240
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:47.519
<v Speaker 11>dad there.

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01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>He also said later believes again this is Pete's belief,

1243
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 11>not mine, necessarily, and he believes that he would not

1244
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:01.760
<v Speaker 11>have bet on baseball his father had still been alive,

1245
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:06.599
<v Speaker 11>because his father never tolerated that kind of behavior. Now,

1246
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:10.400
<v Speaker 11>you know, I personally think Bill that Pete suffered from

1247
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:15.960
<v Speaker 11>gambling addiction, yep. And addicts don't make rafal choices. We

1248
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.720
<v Speaker 11>all know that they don't make rational choices. Again and again,

1249
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:23.319
<v Speaker 11>they make choices that hurt themselves and hurt others face

1250
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.119
<v Speaker 11>of all the evidence suggesting that they should not be

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<v Speaker 11>making those choices. And so I tend to believe that

1252
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 11>Pete would have made the wrong choices anyway. But that's

1253
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 11>how Pete felt about his father.

1254
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:36.720
<v Speaker 1>He had that in him. He was just like an

1255
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 1>alcoholic or somebody that's a drug addict. Pete Rose was

1256
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:42.399
<v Speaker 1>a gambling addict. That was the soft side of the

1257
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:47.039
<v Speaker 1>side of this great man. Let's go through nineteen eighty

1258
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 1>nine when he met with Pete. Youberroth, he left the

1259
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Red as a manager for a little bit of time,

1260
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:57.479
<v Speaker 1>went to New York, met with him, explained what happened

1261
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.760
<v Speaker 1>in that meeting, and that was a critical moment that

1262
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Pete he mismanaged completely.

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01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:07.600
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely. It's late February nineteen eighty nine. Spring training has

1264
01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:12.560
<v Speaker 11>just begun the day before, and Rose is summoned for

1265
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:16.039
<v Speaker 11>a secret meeting in New York City in the front

1266
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.560
<v Speaker 11>office of Major League Baseball with outgoing Commissioner Peter Ubroth,

1267
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:24.520
<v Speaker 11>incoming commissioner and then president of the National League Barchiamatti,

1268
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:29.279
<v Speaker 11>and Barchiamadi's right hand man Fai Incense, the deputy commissioner

1269
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 11>at the time, about you know later will become commissioner himself,

1270
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 11>and you know, they want to have him to New

1271
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:40.119
<v Speaker 11>York Pete Rose to ask him a simple question. They

1272
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:43.239
<v Speaker 11>have heard through the rumor mill in New York City

1273
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 11>that Sports Illustrated is investigating a story gambled on baseball,

1274
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.600
<v Speaker 11>and they want to ask him, point blank, has he

1275
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:57.159
<v Speaker 11>done it? And they have cordial meeting again secret at

1276
01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:02.199
<v Speaker 11>the time. They ask him that and Rose flatly denies it.

1277
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 11>And I think there's two interesting things about that answer.

1278
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.439
<v Speaker 11>The first is the men in the room that day

1279
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 11>believe him. You broth Giamadi and fath Ins and who,

1280
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:16.880
<v Speaker 11>by the way, had never met Rose before until that day.

1281
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 11>Believe Pete Rose. You know, as Rose says that day,

1282
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.119
<v Speaker 11>you know, I wouldn't be that stupid to bet on baseball,

1283
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:29.439
<v Speaker 11>And of course why would he write. But with sports electrically,

1284
01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:32.720
<v Speaker 11>they know you. They can't take his word. No, they

1285
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.159
<v Speaker 11>have to investigate it themselves, and that's when they hire

1286
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:38.079
<v Speaker 11>John Dowd. And you know what I can tell you

1287
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:40.640
<v Speaker 11>about that meeting is that if Rose had been honest

1288
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:44.279
<v Speaker 11>that day, Bill, if he had simply told them the truth,

1289
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:47.880
<v Speaker 11>which is he couldn't stop gambling and he had started

1290
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 11>betting on baseball, I believe that Major League Baseball would

1291
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 11>have done everything it could have to salvage Pete Rose.

1292
01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 11>And I don't mean to suggest that he wouldn't have

1293
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.000
<v Speaker 11>been playing. I don't suggest that he wouldn't have been banned.

1294
01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:04.239
<v Speaker 2>But I do not.

1295
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:07.680
<v Speaker 11>That if we'd have been honest and had told him

1296
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:10.279
<v Speaker 11>that he had this sickness, he had this illness he

1297
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:13.720
<v Speaker 11>could not stop. I do not believe it would be

1298
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.319
<v Speaker 11>the kind of banishment, the kind of punishment that we'd

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01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:18.439
<v Speaker 11>still be talking about thirty six years later.

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01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.279
<v Speaker 1>What was a low point after the August eighty nine

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01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:26.000
<v Speaker 1>banishment for Pete Rose, when he hit rock bottom.

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01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.119
<v Speaker 11>Wow, I mean so many, so many rock bottoms come

1303
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:34.399
<v Speaker 11>after nineteen eighty nine, you know, as a Cincinnatian and

1304
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:37.000
<v Speaker 11>as a Red fan, and as someone who sat with

1305
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:40.079
<v Speaker 11>Pete Rose and interviewed him and talked to him about

1306
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.560
<v Speaker 11>that time in his life. To me, the most haunting

1307
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:48.359
<v Speaker 11>moment Bill is October nineteen ninety. It's one year later,

1308
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:52.760
<v Speaker 11>and any Red fan knows what happens in October nineteen ninety.

1309
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:56.840
<v Speaker 11>That's when Cincinnati Red won the World Series, swept the

1310
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 11>Oakland A's and one of the greatest upsets of the

1311
01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:04.279
<v Speaker 11>life last fifty years. And you know that team was

1312
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:08.079
<v Speaker 11>primarily the same roster as it had been the year before,

1313
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 11>with just a few exceptions. That was Pete Rose's team.

1314
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.920
<v Speaker 11>And where is Rose on that night, you know, in

1315
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 11>October nineteen eighty, nineteen ninety, when they win the World Series,

1316
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.399
<v Speaker 11>he is sitting in a federal prison in Marion, Illinois,

1317
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 11>watching that game on a small television and a communal

1318
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:34.640
<v Speaker 11>room with a brother federal convicts. And Rose goes back

1319
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 11>to his dorm room that night, a big room with

1320
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 11>lots of bunk beds, and just imagining Pete Rose laying

1321
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:47.159
<v Speaker 11>there in the dark of that room for me is haunting.

1322
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.560
<v Speaker 1>And then he gets out, goes to a halfway house

1323
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:56.359
<v Speaker 1>fourteenth and Vine. I visited him there several times and

1324
01:12:56.439 --> 01:13:00.159
<v Speaker 1>watched Pete Rose. That was my boyhood hero. Everybody he

1325
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be Pete Rose. He's had a cot. There's

1326
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:05.600
<v Speaker 1>four or five other people in a room. For some reason,

1327
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.439
<v Speaker 1>the federal judge put him into a halfway house, as

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01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:12.199
<v Speaker 1>if Pete Rose had to be acclimated back into the

1329
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 1>reality of life. People stealing his stuff and signing autographs,

1330
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:18.720
<v Speaker 1>which was illegal at the bottom of the bottom of

1331
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.479
<v Speaker 1>the bottom, and his gambling continued. And after that when

1332
01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:25.279
<v Speaker 1>he got out, he kept gambling on baseball and other sports.

1333
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:30.079
<v Speaker 1>How would Pete react to what's going to happen Wednesday night?

1334
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.920
<v Speaker 1>How would Pete Rose, looking down, I pray from heaven,

1335
01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:36.479
<v Speaker 1>would look sold out? Hadn't played baseball with the Reds

1336
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.920
<v Speaker 1>for almost forty years. His last about was in nineteen

1337
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 1>eighty six. It's been thirty nine years, and here you

1338
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 1>sell out the Great American Ballpark standing room tickets only

1339
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a celebration to Pete Rose with

1340
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 1>his family and all the clips. How would Pete react

1341
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to that?

1342
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.279
<v Speaker 11>You know, Cincinnati always meant a lot of pose, you know,

1343
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.000
<v Speaker 11>and so this game night and this crowd in this

1344
01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:05.520
<v Speaker 11>moment would have meant a lot to heros. You know,

1345
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:12.079
<v Speaker 11>he interestingly has scripted from beyond a lot of the

1346
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:13.640
<v Speaker 11>things that have happened.

1347
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 5>In recent months.

1348
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 11>You know, he told me when I was reporting my book,

1349
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:21.600
<v Speaker 11>Charlie Hustle, he told me that, you know, when he died,

1350
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:25.359
<v Speaker 11>he wanted to be laid out in States at Great

1351
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:30.000
<v Speaker 11>American Ballpark, laid out in the casket there. It seemed

1352
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.960
<v Speaker 11>implausible when he told me that back in twenty twenty one,

1353
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:37.720
<v Speaker 11>that's exactly what happened. Of course, last fall he told

1354
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 11>me too that he believed that when he died, major

1355
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:49.840
<v Speaker 11>League Baseball may reinstate him, that they may do it posthumously. Right,

1356
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 11>he predicted that and was fairly bitter about that too, Bill.

1357
01:14:56.079 --> 01:15:00.039
<v Speaker 11>You know, he it hurt him again something he he

1358
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:04.760
<v Speaker 11>would not admit to, but it hurt him that he

1359
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:09.800
<v Speaker 11>lost the last thirty five years of his life, you know,

1360
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 11>in the hinterlands of the sport that he loved and

1361
01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:17.479
<v Speaker 11>it heard him to know that he may be possumously

1362
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 11>placed back on Baseball's to the lists. But of course,

1363
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:27.239
<v Speaker 11>I mean, you know, this was a situation that Rose

1364
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:31.920
<v Speaker 11>made for himself. You know, we talked about that moment

1365
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 11>in February nineteen eighty nine, were based on my reporting,

1366
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:38.319
<v Speaker 11>things would have been differently. It would have gone differently

1367
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:41.039
<v Speaker 11>if he had told the truth. There are several other

1368
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.880
<v Speaker 11>moments that come after that where the same thing is true.

1369
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:48.239
<v Speaker 11>You know, Rose will meet with Dowd in a for

1370
01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:53.279
<v Speaker 11>a secret deposition later that spring where for two full days.

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01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:58.119
<v Speaker 11>If Rose was honest, then it's different. You know, at

1372
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:01.720
<v Speaker 11>his banishments, with his banish in late August nineteen eighty nine,

1373
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.600
<v Speaker 11>there was another chance for him to get right Bargie

1374
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:11.920
<v Speaker 11>and Maadi the truth. He couldn't do it. And these decisions,

1375
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.319
<v Speaker 11>you know, ultimately are what put Rose in the position

1376
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:19.039
<v Speaker 11>that he was in for the last thirty five year life.

1377
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end there was an occasion with

1378
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench and others who had Bud

1379
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Seeley in like two thousand, nineteen ninety nine. Okay, of course,

1380
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:31.039
<v Speaker 1>for Pete to get back in. But Pete's got to

1381
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:33.439
<v Speaker 1>do this. Pete's got to do that. I know. Bench

1382
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and Joe Morgan bless his soul, were quite unhappy with

1383
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they could never get Pete to admit

1384
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he needed help, needed a problem, he had, got a problem.

1385
01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 1>And then he finally wrote the book and admitted he

1386
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:46.760
<v Speaker 1>did everything. That hurt that much more. There were so

1387
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 1>many twist and turns, and after in August eighty nine,

1388
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:52.880
<v Speaker 1>every twist and turn he made was the wrong one.

1389
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And if Pete Rose said repeatedly, I don't care about

1390
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.560
<v Speaker 1>getting in the Hall of Fame when I'm dead, who cares.

1391
01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's going to be read stated off the

1392
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:06.079
<v Speaker 1>lifetime list and he'll be eligible. A Veterans Committee's going

1393
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.159
<v Speaker 1>to meet in the December of twenty twenty seven. Every

1394
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 1>member of the so called Veterans Committee or against Pete

1395
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Rose getting in, and he's seventy five percent of the vote.

1396
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that happens. But lastly, do you

1397
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:23.239
<v Speaker 1>see Keith O'Brien away that the number one is going

1398
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to be off the lifetime ban because he's dead, But

1399
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:29.279
<v Speaker 1>then sheerless Joe's dead and he's still in the lifetime

1400
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:31.800
<v Speaker 1>band list and it's ironic. The Reds are playing the

1401
01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:37.000
<v Speaker 1>White Sox Wednesday night, quite ironic. But nonetheless, do you

1402
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:39.479
<v Speaker 1>see get out your crystal ball? Does Pete Rose ever

1403
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:41.640
<v Speaker 1>get to the Hall of Fame? He said during his

1404
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:42.920
<v Speaker 1>living years, he didn't care.

1405
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:49.359
<v Speaker 11>You know, it's impossible to predict. I mean, who knows.

1406
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:53.800
<v Speaker 11>This story is taking so many twists and turns. You know,

1407
01:17:54.039 --> 01:18:00.159
<v Speaker 11>I will say this. You know, think in general, we

1408
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:04.680
<v Speaker 11>as a culture have lost perspective on the Hall of fame,

1409
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:07.000
<v Speaker 11>on all the halls of fame, right. I think we

1410
01:18:07.159 --> 01:18:10.159
<v Speaker 11>like to put athletes on pedestals. We like to pretend

1411
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 11>perfect people, We like to ascribe moral values to them.

1412
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.840
<v Speaker 11>We don't even really know who they are. Bill, We

1413
01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 11>know very little about the people we cheer for, and

1414
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:23.640
<v Speaker 11>I will argue that we'll know even less about them

1415
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:29.039
<v Speaker 11>going forward in this modern era where reporters simply don't

1416
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:32.680
<v Speaker 11>have access to the players like they want. Players don't

1417
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:36.119
<v Speaker 11>even have for us. They can frame their own story

1418
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:38.840
<v Speaker 11>through their Instagram accounts, so we don't really know who

1419
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:42.840
<v Speaker 11>they are. I think we should enshrine or not enshrine

1420
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:47.880
<v Speaker 11>players based on what they did on the between the lines.

1421
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.600
<v Speaker 11>We know and if what they did off the field

1422
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:52.680
<v Speaker 11>is so wrong, then I say put those mistakes on

1423
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 11>the plaque at Cooperstown right next to their accomplishments.

1424
01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, at some point, Pete's going to be pardoned by

1425
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. At some point he's going to be reien

1426
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>stayed a lifetime ban and let the chips fall where

1427
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:05.479
<v Speaker 1>they may. But if someone wants the good, the bad,

1428
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.199
<v Speaker 1>and the ugly, it's Charlie Hustle. The rise and fall

1429
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of Pete Rose in the last glory days of baseball

1430
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:13.359
<v Speaker 1>so true. The Reds used to have the highest payroll

1431
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>in baseball. They were the dominant franchise. And here we

1432
01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:19.119
<v Speaker 1>are as a small market team thirty years later, and

1433
01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:21.439
<v Speaker 1>we struggle to get to five hundred every now and then.

1434
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And once again, Uh, Keith O'Brien, it's always great to

1435
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.479
<v Speaker 1>have you on. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

1436
01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:30.239
<v Speaker 1>And Keith O'Brien, you're a great American. Thank you very much.

1437
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:32.000
<v Speaker 11>Thanks for having me.

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01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Bill.

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01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:34.720
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you soon. Thank you all. Let's continue with

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01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:38.119
<v Speaker 1>more the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:42.159
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, Bill Cunningham, Here's Radio seven hundred w.

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<v Speaker 9>LW Segman Dennison is the last man. I gave a

1443
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:46.479
<v Speaker 9>shot too.

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01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh hello, hello.

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01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Byet Skulls. I'm broadcasting.

1446
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Calling Pete Rose Ali segment. Did he give you a shower?

1447
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Everything? Yeah, I'm not saying him a liar? No, what

1449
01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>are you saying? I'm not saying nothing. Didn't you give

1450
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:10.199
<v Speaker 1>a shout to Joe DiMaggio. I think that's what he's

1451
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about, not you. I was in the room when

1452
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:16.439
<v Speaker 1>that was edited edited. Yeah, it was a I No,

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01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.199
<v Speaker 1>it was uh whatever, Well, you don't know what they

1454
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:21.439
<v Speaker 1>what is AI? You know what what does that stand for?

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Iverson? That's it right there. So you not as

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01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:28.439
<v Speaker 1>dumb as people think you are. Huh huh. Now, Rock,

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01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I have a comment for you to make. I just

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01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:36.439
<v Speaker 1>handed you a story the murderer Rock is not working.

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01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Is the microphone working? Microphone? Try that the man accused.

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01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I won't mention his name. The cold blood of murderer

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01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:52.279
<v Speaker 1>accused of killing Larry Henderson has fought a lawsuit against

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01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the Hamley County Sheriff's Department and the Cincinnati Police, allegedly

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01:20:57.039 --> 01:21:00.399
<v Speaker 1>claiming that he was treated to harshly when he was

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01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.119
<v Speaker 1>arrested at the scene, and secondly, he was it was

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01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:08.079
<v Speaker 1>intimidated by the arraignment in which the cops stood behind him,

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01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:14.479
<v Speaker 1>that that showed disrespect, racism, intimidation, and embarrassment to the murderer.

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<v Speaker 12>But of course he had nothing to do with his

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01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:18.880
<v Speaker 12>current situation, nothinging.

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01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:22.520
<v Speaker 1>This so called person representing him wants him to be

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01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:27.680
<v Speaker 1>released immediately. You must be released. I'm just saying, we

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01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:32.239
<v Speaker 1>live in the world that's upside down. Your comments eventy, Plus,

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01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the flag of the Cincinnati Police is now flying over

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01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:39.880
<v Speaker 1>City Hall eight to one Plum Street for the first

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01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:44.119
<v Speaker 1>time in its history. According to news media outlets, that finally,

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01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:48.359
<v Speaker 1>after pureval is honoring police. Your comments on all this

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01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>police break it down by category?

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01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:57.199
<v Speaker 7>Well, talk to your.

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01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Comments on the murderer suing the Sheriff's department alleging embarrassment

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01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:03.399
<v Speaker 1>for the murder that he committed. What kind of I mean,

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01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:06.880
<v Speaker 1>where are they gonna be seeking in his trial? Number one?

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01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Released this group once and release number two a written

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01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>formal apology, and number three monetary damages for the murderer

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01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:20.079
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna happen. You bet against it. He's gonna get

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01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it out of your mind. I didn't say I did

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01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:27.039
<v Speaker 1>you know where he lives though Rock Middletown. By the

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01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:31.199
<v Speaker 1>segment Middle Tucky, he spent time in the Butler County jail.

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01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>In mind, had the murderer did, and so you're not

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01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>going to defend him segment No Rock, your reaction to

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01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit, how's this going to play out? In your opinion?

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01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:47.680
<v Speaker 1>That'll be dismissed. But I don't know. The bigger problem

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01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>is this, did the eighteen year old son of the

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01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:57.039
<v Speaker 1>murderer who started this whole thing actually point the gun

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01:22:57.039 --> 01:23:02.199
<v Speaker 1>at the police or not? One's video get released? A video,

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01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it's been released now.

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01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:06.960
<v Speaker 12>By I mean, everybody I've talked to said that the

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01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:10.399
<v Speaker 12>gun was dropped and it was then picked up. Why

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01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:12.399
<v Speaker 12>do you pick up a gun if you don't intend

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01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.319
<v Speaker 12>to use it? Now that's in that case, Pad, That's

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01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:17.880
<v Speaker 12>a good question right there. If you don't intend to

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<v Speaker 12>use it, why wouldn't you just leave it on the

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01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:21.159
<v Speaker 12>ground and say you know what you got me, I'm sorry,

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01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:24.000
<v Speaker 12>or just scurry off into the woods and run away

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01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:26.239
<v Speaker 12>like the other three. You pick up a gun that

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01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:28.840
<v Speaker 12>was us because you intend to use it.

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01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not what that is going to be. The crux

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01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>of made the gun was not pointed at the Cincinnati

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01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>police officer. It was a bad shooting.

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01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:38.439
<v Speaker 12>Again, as I said the other day, there was three

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01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:42.760
<v Speaker 12>different instances where he could have not you know, committed

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01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:43.760
<v Speaker 12>to his own demise.

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01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Could have not stolen the car.

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01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:48.560
<v Speaker 12>How about that idea, could have not run from the police,

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01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:50.640
<v Speaker 12>and could have not picked up and pointed a gun

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01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:52.520
<v Speaker 12>not once, but twice the police segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Your reaction do you stand who do you stand with?

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01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.439
<v Speaker 1>In these issues? Will leave the stude report, us of

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01:23:57.479 --> 01:23:59.279
<v Speaker 1>prop service, every vocal tem star.

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01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:03.159
<v Speaker 10>He didn't get air conditioning dealers tame star quality you

1519
01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:06.119
<v Speaker 10>could feel in Cincinnati called Stacy Heating and Air Solutions

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01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:12.239
<v Speaker 10>five one, three, three six seven h E A T.

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01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Spot your travels this fall? Will you go through Newark

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01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>at all? Liberty Airport?

1523
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Hope?

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01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:19.920
<v Speaker 11>Not that?

1525
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:20.159
<v Speaker 8>Now?

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01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:22.760
<v Speaker 12>The Trumps are in the in the budget is planning

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01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:25.000
<v Speaker 12>to give some money to the bottom transportation.

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01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Who's responsible for this? Who was the second bid? And

1529
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:31.119
<v Speaker 1>how about Secretary Judge? Your buddy from South Bend. There's

1530
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>another name time? Is that the Notre Dame connection?

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01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:34.199
<v Speaker 11>Right?

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01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:34.479
<v Speaker 9>There?

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01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Was he the Mariouth Bend good friends back then? What

1534
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:41.039
<v Speaker 1>credentials did he have to be the transportation secretar.

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01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:44.840
<v Speaker 12>Not one who he shows the sleep with got in

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01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.159
<v Speaker 12>the gig segment.

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01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Any comments you have on that one? What transportation? No?

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01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:51.359
<v Speaker 3>No?

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01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Who you chowse the sleep with? That cheerleader from Cole Raine?

1540
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>What was her name?

1541
01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>What?

1542
01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Never mind? Go ahead?

1543
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:05.039
<v Speaker 10>Uh usc AA Baseball Small College World Series. Willie Penn

1544
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:08.680
<v Speaker 10>Sate Skypeill got by Miami Middletown nine to eight and

1545
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:12.159
<v Speaker 10>eleven innings in the opener. So Miami Middletown the thunder

1546
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:14.439
<v Speaker 10>Hawks will play tomorrow in the loser's bracket.

1547
01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:16.439
<v Speaker 1>You're playing this because a Middletown is that it.

1548
01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:19.720
<v Speaker 10>Bengals Update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town,

1549
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:24.039
<v Speaker 10>the thirteen Convenient Locations in Northern Kentucky. Bengals defensive end

1550
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 10>Trey Hendrickson, in a statement today, says that the team

1551
01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:32.319
<v Speaker 10>is cut off contract talks after a dispute regarding a

1552
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:32.880
<v Speaker 10>new deal.

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01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.720
<v Speaker 12>Now, the media had reported that they were in constant conference.

1554
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:37.479
<v Speaker 12>You know, constant communication is.

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01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Henderson doesn't know and the Bengals don't know, but

1556
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the media does.

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01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:45.600
<v Speaker 12>Do you think the Bengals at any point last year said,

1558
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.119
<v Speaker 12>you know what, okay? Because how it went was like

1559
01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:51.000
<v Speaker 12>he was unhappy with his contract last year. They essentially said, okay,

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01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:53.640
<v Speaker 12>you go prove it. You did led the league in sacks.

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01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Come back.

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01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:56.520
<v Speaker 12>At any point in that, do you think the Bengals said

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01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:59.520
<v Speaker 12>to him, you know what.

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01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, you go ahead and I'll perform the contract.

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01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.239
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pay it. I think the Bengals probably told

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01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>him that. I don't think so. I think they said.

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01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:09.359
<v Speaker 12>I think they said we'll revisit it. Don't imagine they

1568
01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:11.720
<v Speaker 12>promised they would pay more reaction.

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01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:15.640
<v Speaker 10>The National Football League announced today the opening game of

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01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.199
<v Speaker 10>the twenty twenty five season.

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01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, where's it?

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01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:23.239
<v Speaker 10>At Dallas at Philadelphia the Pope Thursday night, September the fourth.

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01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Will Pope show up for this one? He's an Eagles

1574
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>fan from Villanova at a bud Man. The Big East

1575
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>has a Pope? Say you buried the lead?

1576
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:33.319
<v Speaker 12>Jordan Hudson finished third in the Miss Main competition.

1577
01:26:33.399 --> 01:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that? I'm gonna get to that, Rockey,

1578
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>give me a chance. All right, that's the lead story.

1579
01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's see.

1580
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:43.880
<v Speaker 10>In golf, Congrats to Jeff Beckham Holand one today at

1581
01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:46.840
<v Speaker 10>four Bridges, the brother of David Beckham Holand One, his

1582
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:48.720
<v Speaker 10>first one Jeff Beckham, call him and tell.

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01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Him you're right. What the what hole number five? It

1584
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:54.159
<v Speaker 1>was two hundred and seventy five yard part three knocked

1585
01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>it in with a three wood on the fly? O? Wow,

1586
01:26:57.880 --> 01:26:59.079
<v Speaker 1>how about that? Pretty good?

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01:26:59.119 --> 01:26:59.359
<v Speaker 4>There?

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01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:01.239
<v Speaker 1>You jealous? Yes?

1589
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:04.720
<v Speaker 10>N C double a golf regional right now in Urban

1590
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:08.840
<v Speaker 10>or Urbana, Illinois playing as an individual, U sees Ryan

1591
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:11.039
<v Speaker 10>Ford is still tied for third to three.

1592
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Under who recruited the rock Urban Meyer who enjoys lap dances?

1593
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Was that Urban Illinois or Abana? I thought I thought

1594
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>about the.

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01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:22.800
<v Speaker 12>Last Did you think constantly how you can tie me

1596
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:27.199
<v Speaker 12>into some sort of controversy?

1597
01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>The king of that? Exactly? Thank you? Please continue.

1598
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.880
<v Speaker 10>FC Cincinnati s Evander has been named to the MLS.

1599
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Is he related to Evander?

1600
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:38.359
<v Speaker 10>Hollyfield No has been named to the MLS Team of

1601
01:27:38.399 --> 01:27:40.760
<v Speaker 10>the Match day for a goal and assists Saturday night

1602
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:44.199
<v Speaker 10>and the win over Austin FC. The Orange and Blue

1603
01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:47.520
<v Speaker 10>are at Toronto on Wednesday night and then take on

1604
01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:52.000
<v Speaker 10>the Columbus crew Saturday. Where hell is real?

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01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Now? What about Wednesday night? About Pete Rose? You forgot

1606
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:57.640
<v Speaker 1>about that? I'm just gonna mention that. Well, Wednesday night

1607
01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>joined Pete Rose Knight, Uh do you joined us? For

1608
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution Pete Party presented by

1609
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Columbia Hunday live from the Holy Grail starting at three

1610
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>o'clock Wednesday with the rock Edward and Moe all gonna

1611
01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:16.079
<v Speaker 1>be there and he goes breaking down. Pete Rose break,

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01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I need more information. I'll give it to you right now.

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01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose Junior. I talked to him earlier. He's gonna

1614
01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>join us at four or five. He needs a good man.

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01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.239
<v Speaker 1>What's Dave Rose to in these days? Pete's brother?

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01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:31.079
<v Speaker 10>I can't say, Go ahead say and then what Jordan Hudson, Yeah?

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01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>And then there's video of Belichick? Was there? Was he there?

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01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:38.720
<v Speaker 12>In the way the competition was held in a Holiday

1619
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:40.760
<v Speaker 12>inn in like Banger, Maine.

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01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Figures, that's perfecture.

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01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:45.600
<v Speaker 12>What you got Bill Belichick sitting there in the audience

1622
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.880
<v Speaker 12>of like twenty three people in a Holiday inn ballroom

1623
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:53.840
<v Speaker 12>in Banger, Maine, watches girl friend coming third. You did

1624
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:55.279
<v Speaker 12>not have that on your Bengo.

1625
01:28:55.039 --> 01:28:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Car, I did not have that possibility of occurring. Can

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01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you see them? And they sweet of holiday in celebrating

1627
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>her her bronze finish.

1628
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:07.800
<v Speaker 10>Well, there's there's video of there's video of the coach

1629
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:12.439
<v Speaker 10>chumming up with the winner, who is twenty one years old.

1630
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Belichick's going to younger then, right.

1631
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.079
<v Speaker 10>She is then wash that guy the other day that

1632
01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:22.319
<v Speaker 10>had that report of Pablo Torres. Yes he had a report.

1633
01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:24.920
<v Speaker 10>There's there was there was, there was no way. He's

1634
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:28.640
<v Speaker 10>that Bill Belichick will coach the tar Heels this year.

1635
01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden he will not do it.

1636
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I got a who's gonna pull the trigger?

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01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:37.119
<v Speaker 10>North Carolina, the university chancellor, they probably had it. You

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01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:39.279
<v Speaker 10>want that circus on the sideline. I think at this

1639
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:41.000
<v Speaker 10>point you got to go through it. I mean, look,

1640
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:42.199
<v Speaker 10>at the end of the day, people are gonna be

1641
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:45.000
<v Speaker 10>talking about North Carolina. I still believe Bill Belichick can

1642
01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.880
<v Speaker 10>win football games. I think he looks at this as

1643
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:50.920
<v Speaker 10>Jordan Hudson helps him with his image, helps him look

1644
01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:53.760
<v Speaker 10>a little bit. Younger, helps him look which she got

1645
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:55.319
<v Speaker 10>him kicked out of the league in the first place,

1646
01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:58.439
<v Speaker 10>and she usually benefits by getting a you know, eight

1647
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:01.359
<v Speaker 10>million dollar uh, you know, housing portfolio.

1648
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And so you're saying Bill Belichick goes to a holiday

1649
01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>inn in Bangor, Maine to watch Jordan Hudson finished bronze

1650
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>third out of four and this Maine. Are any good

1651
01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>looking women in Maine? I don't think so. When's the

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01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:15.119
<v Speaker 1>last time?

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01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:19.960
<v Speaker 7>Miss May was a twelve, not twelve but eight twelve,

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01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:24.319
<v Speaker 7>So she was somewhat attractive, as you say, yes, so

1655
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:25.640
<v Speaker 7>it was a fair competition.

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01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Jordan should have.

1657
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:29.079
<v Speaker 12>But there was like a like a fan voting thing,

1658
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:33.399
<v Speaker 12>and you could pay a dollar to to cast a vote.

1659
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:35.439
<v Speaker 12>I would Bill Belichick would have called a bunch of

1660
01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:37.960
<v Speaker 12>people and donated the money, and I would have. I

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01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.319
<v Speaker 12>don't you wanted her to win on donate money? No,

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01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:43.399
<v Speaker 12>I would, Jordan Hudson.

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01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.199
<v Speaker 1>He didn't finish. And you see her at Atlantic City

1664
01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the Miss America contest with Bill Belichick. There you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. There she is miss a Mary missus Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>Will they get married and have children?

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<v Speaker 12>I right now he is going to coach and he's

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<v Speaker 12>gonna he's gonna, like you're gonna have the first games.

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina hosting. Anybody.

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<v Speaker 12>Let's go down the sideline with a rocket boyman Rocky

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<v Speaker 12>point on the Belichick rock what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Getting passing notes to Belichick from Jordan Hudson on play calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about this past Belichick. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on to Cincinnati. Well, what's he getting out of this?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it from Jordan Hudson.

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<v Speaker 12>He gets he looks younger, like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>looks like he's kind.

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<v Speaker 11>He gets and some other state.

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<v Speaker 1>Calm down, Dave, calm down, anatomically women, you get it

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<v Speaker 1>from bi logical. Never mind, what do you have on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today?

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<v Speaker 11>That was awkward?

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<v Speaker 10>That was rock The Trump said that you can use

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<v Speaker 10>his free plane he got from Cutter, so it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a plane for said the problem that they're complaining

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred million will take the plane takes a play,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of paint on him.

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<v Speaker 10>He said, you could use that during the college foot

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<v Speaker 10>Jordan for your support from Ohio. Spelichick wearing the pale

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<v Speaker 10>blue colors of the tart heels.

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<v Speaker 5>No he was not. He was.

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<v Speaker 12>She wore one of her dresses. And again I only

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<v Speaker 12>look into this so no one else has to. I

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<v Speaker 12>had to do the dirty work and look at pictures

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<v Speaker 12>of her and all the other main Miss America, you

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<v Speaker 12>know PA contestants.

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<v Speaker 1>She did some dirty work too, just saying main this

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<v Speaker 1>main holiday in bangor Maine Banger banger, see bangor bangor

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<v Speaker 1>get emphasize the older, saying the foolishness has got to stop.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you so again. So the bed is you. You're

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<v Speaker 12>saying he will game North here who will coach a game?

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<v Speaker 12>And I'm gonna say he's gonna lead him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be on the side. Now that is a certainty.

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<v Speaker 12>She will be yes, Now, well, I think I think

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<v Speaker 12>she'll be present like on the sideline pregame.

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<v Speaker 1>But during the game she'll go open like the box

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<v Speaker 1>President's box. I will I won't, I won't say the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious thing. All right, what's twelve years old? What's on

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<v Speaker 1>the big ship? Out of that gutter? God, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>an expert on the pope.

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<v Speaker 12>At least I'm not from Chicago like Pete Boota Jag

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<v Speaker 12>screwed up my buddy faa.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that end, when you got an expert on the pope. Pope,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that number again, fourteen say get me out of

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<v Speaker 1>the store, super reported tape tape.

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<v Speaker 10>Willie and hotter of a rainy day. You're in the

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<v Speaker 10>tri State. We leave you with the immortal words of

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<v Speaker 10>the stood report.

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<v Speaker 5>All I should be with you, Bill, see you later

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<v Speaker 5>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Control Republicans all anymore after the Executive Committee. Jim trust

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna run for governor everybody wants him to. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Democrat. On News Radio seven hundreds wlw

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<v Speaker 6>M
