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<v Speaker 1>The views expressed in the following program are those of

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<v Speaker 1>the participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of

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<v Speaker 1>Saga nine sixty AM or its management.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wednesday, and you know what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>Ringside Heat is back on the air on new STOK

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<v Speaker 3>Saga nine sixty with a new episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Lextan, hosted producer of the show, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can follow me at Lextan Media. You can follow

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<v Speaker 3>the show at Ringside Underscore Heat and alongside me here

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<v Speaker 3>for this episode of Ringside Heat, as always, is our

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<v Speaker 3>TNA Wrestling Expert, our wrestling memorabilia and general collection expert.

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<v Speaker 2>He is, uh, he's a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>He's sporting one of those WWE snap bands of the

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<v Speaker 3>Spinner Championship and which you can't see because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not putting this up on YouTube right now, but

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<v Speaker 3>he is celebrating a championship alongside alongside a certain NBA

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<v Speaker 3>team who hast won one in fifty three years. His

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<v Speaker 3>name is Chico Nugate and you can follow him and

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<v Speaker 3>his collection at Coco Collects.

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<v Speaker 2>Chico. Welcome to the show. Nice to be back after

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks where I couldn't join you unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>so I couldn't. I couldn't join the show either at

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<v Speaker 2>that point either. So oh that's true. Yes, anyway, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, it's so surreal. I know we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the weird stuff that's going on in pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture and sports entertainment intersecting, but dang, what what a

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<v Speaker 2>what a time? What a time to be a pro

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling fan? Actually, mm hmm exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing, the question I want to start off

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<v Speaker 3>with here today to begin our discussion here on the air,

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<v Speaker 3>And of course you can you can follow us anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>on social media, and hey, reach out for us if

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<v Speaker 3>you like. If you really like what we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>and want to ask us a question, you should reach

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<v Speaker 3>out to anyone of us on social media and uh, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll respond as long as you as long as you

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<v Speaker 3>keep it one hundred, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the question I would like to pose to

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<v Speaker 2>you to think about, Chico.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the weirdest wrestling idea that ever got you

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<v Speaker 3>emotionally invested. It may not be the best match, it

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<v Speaker 3>may not have been the best the biggest star, but

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<v Speaker 3>the weirdest idea that somehow made you care? I give

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<v Speaker 3>you a couple of seconds. I'll give you a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of minutes to think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and uh and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'll go into mind, I'll go into my personal

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<v Speaker 3>uh top three before you know, growing up as a

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<v Speaker 3>wrestling fan and before this year. I'm gonna say I'll

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<v Speaker 3>compartmentalize it by saying, let's go back into the archives

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. So one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The things that that that made me, uh, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that was the weirdest wrestling idea that got me emotionally invested.

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<v Speaker 3>The Firefly Funhouse. My goodness, that was amazing. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like and it was it was weird. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>you know it it had such a it had such

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<v Speaker 3>a really really uplifting theme song talking about we're really

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<v Speaker 3>glad that you're our friend and this will be a

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<v Speaker 3>friendship that will never ever end. I mean like and

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<v Speaker 3>and then it's Bray Wyatt with his McMahon puppet and

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<v Speaker 3>his sister Abigail puppet and then him and like like

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<v Speaker 3>sweats and a headband, uh, you know, just doing an

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<v Speaker 3>eighty style exercise video taunting whoever he wants it to

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<v Speaker 3>talk would put him in a man and then he

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<v Speaker 3>and and then you got invested in that you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to watch more Firefly Funhouse every single week, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can hear the pops every single week, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Get louder and louder and louder.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Alexa Blis gets involved and then and then yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, with a lot of wrestling things and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of things that McMahon does, it fizzles out. But hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it was there, It was, it was there. Another another

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<v Speaker 3>weird one, Santina Morella, Well, hold on, hold on, wait

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<v Speaker 3>before you go into your next idea. Uh, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the mister Rogers aspect of the fireflyfe on House was

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<v Speaker 3>also kind of cool. You know, he gave that wholesome

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<v Speaker 3>this this crazy Uh I guess I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to reword it any other way, but kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>schizophrenic nature of his character. Yeah, that would probably be

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty good explanation of that character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, or dissociative personality disorder or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>something where he had multiple personalities on screen. And and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, of course if and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get on his bad side, because then the fiend

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<v Speaker 2>will come and get you right, right, right, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean speaking of coming and get you, coming to

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<v Speaker 2>get you. The Boogeyman did not do that for me,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was okay, I was amused by that, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>very amused. I even like I mean, of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>Booker team made it even even more entertaining because of

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<v Speaker 2>how much he looked like he genuinely feared the Boogeyman

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<v Speaker 2>every time he appeared on screen. Along with his wife,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lovely Queen Charmel would also add to the the

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<v Speaker 2>the lore of it too, so which I really respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like they really bought into the absurdity of

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they made me like thoroughly entertained in those segments, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean speaking of bizarre and talking about the Boogeyman.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember there was even this Vince Man really thought

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<v Speaker 2>of some weird, weird stuff back in his day as

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<v Speaker 2>creative head. Oh but but Boogeyman, like he ate the

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<v Speaker 2>birthmark off of Jillian Hall's face. I remember that, Like

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<v Speaker 2>she had a big, huge thing like a growth on

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<v Speaker 2>how they got rid of that was I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Boogeyman consumed it like he ate it off of her face,

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<v Speaker 2>like the very very very truly strange and yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean wasn't the best, but I was entertained because

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<v Speaker 2>what is pro wrestling. It's it's entertainment with sports. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean exactly, I mean, we'll go into that some more,

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<v Speaker 2>but go on. You had another answer to your own question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's this little Santino Morella was also one of

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<v Speaker 3>the weird concepts where it's just like, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going into crowd and in Milan of all places, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, just pulling somebody out of the crowd

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<v Speaker 3>randomly and he wins the inter Continental Chain Championship and

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, and which is another weird concept.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, it was. It worked.

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<v Speaker 3>It got me invested into the Santina Morella character. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're still talking about and we're still laughing

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<v Speaker 3>about Santina Morella Anthony Corelly years decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Later, which is amazing number. It is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the director of authority on TNA Wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, expert, that's right, TNA expert. You would you

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<v Speaker 3>are the authority on that? And uh, a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a weird concept, but uh and a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>awkward but it did get me emotionally invested in It was,

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<v Speaker 3>wwe bite this Leada and Matt Hardy and that whole storyline,

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<v Speaker 3>The whole Leada and Matt Hardy storyline. There it got

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<v Speaker 3>me really Leada, Matt Hardy and Edge. That there you go, Leada,

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Hardy and Edge storyline. It was the It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Awkward, it was weird, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was uncomfortable, but I got emotionally invested in it

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<v Speaker 3>because it was because despite the the unfortunate circumstances of

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<v Speaker 3>what was happening in real life, they all bought into

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<v Speaker 3>the story that they were telling.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's an interesting situation because by the time any

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<v Speaker 2>of the drama between Matt and Edge and Lida made

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<v Speaker 2>it onto the screen, we'd find this out years later,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had made up backstage already by the time

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<v Speaker 2>even a little bit of it, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>even before the bite this call. Yes, I think even

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<v Speaker 2>before that they had already made up and were thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about creative ways to do this because their boss was

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<v Speaker 2>telling them to use it for on screen drama, which, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like it did for you, it got me emotionally invested

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<v Speaker 2>in the product. Like I loved it when Matt came

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<v Speaker 2>back and he had that what Matt Hardy will Not

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<v Speaker 2>Die shirt or something, and like he supposedly had been

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<v Speaker 2>let go and they had they we didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>they brought him back already. And then when he attacked

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<v Speaker 2>Edge and Lida I guess, or try more of Edge,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>He attacked Edge, he called him Adam on the air,

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<v Speaker 3>he called Lida just Lida, and then he actually this

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<v Speaker 3>is off Mike. Yeah, no, well no, it was actually

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<v Speaker 3>on a live microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yes, it was actually on a live microphone.

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<v Speaker 3>They played it so well that we all thought it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't part of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That it was that that that that that that k

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<v Speaker 2>fave was actually broken. Yeah, and like you said, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're about to say, he was plugging a ring of honor,

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<v Speaker 2>which was at the time kind of mostly taboo to

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<v Speaker 2>mention anyone else. And so I feel like I might

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<v Speaker 2>have at least one answer to your question at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>now that I've been listening to you for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean I think I know what

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<v Speaker 2>one you're going for. I think I think I know

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<v Speaker 2>which it is. I'm not sure. I think the one

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking that I would say will come later on,

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<v Speaker 2>but now I'm thinking of digging way back into the

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<v Speaker 2>archives and as a kid, and to me, this is

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<v Speaker 2>strange to be associated with pro wrestling, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>the Summer Slam where you had the match made in

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<v Speaker 2>Heaven and the match made in hell. Now specifically it

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<v Speaker 2>was the macho man Randy Savage and Elizabeth wedding storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>That is one of my earliest, earliest recollections of something

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<v Speaker 2>that was not just quote unquote wrestling but made its

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<v Speaker 2>way onto this product. And you know, there weren't really

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<v Speaker 2>many moves involved. I mean, it was a drama between

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<v Speaker 2>a wrestler and his valet who he had kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a on and off relationship with, and you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>course the infamous Elizabeth, will you marry me? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember that? Yep, that was just in blazoned into my

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<v Speaker 2>head as a kid. It's so weird. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, it's such drama, you know, oh it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such drama. And then when they finally got

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<v Speaker 2>married on screen, I forgot what the what form that took.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been that Summer Slam. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that was where the wedding was on screen. It was

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got legit like emotional even as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, they're tying the knot. They

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<v Speaker 2>overcame adversity and then you know, we'd find out later

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes that they they were already divorced by then, Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was that situation, but hey, they found a

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<v Speaker 2>way to make money out of it, exactly. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>being professionals, you know. So and I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>Mauch did really care for Elizabeth, you know, like all

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<v Speaker 2>the way through.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that was very very clear that like that, like

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<v Speaker 3>even with the I mean, like there are different stories

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<v Speaker 3>that come out, but I think as well, I agree that,

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<v Speaker 3>like I do believe that Macho Man and Elizabeth really

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<v Speaker 3>did care for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he was very very jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a very very jealous partner, a very jealous

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<v Speaker 3>husband even and uh but I mean, but then again,

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time, it's at this at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, when you when you're hot headed like that

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<v Speaker 3>easy to really let the jealousy because jealousy will Jealousy

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<v Speaker 3>and everything it's it's a I mean, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, Elizabeth was, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>when she and Macho Man were at their prime back

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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties, you know, she was considered the most

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for years. She definitely definitely was. Uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's now now hearing you talk, that's what my

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing is that And that's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>there's a great YouTube video on that that like you

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<v Speaker 3>know that that that that some many wrestling fans may

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<v Speaker 3>not just the professional wrestling, the athletic side, It is

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<v Speaker 2>It is the.

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<v Speaker 3>Pump and pagistry, pageantry, and the the fireworks.

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<v Speaker 2>And that and and all that that that come with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because it's just wrestling is ridiculous, and thank

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<v Speaker 3>god wrestling is ridiculous because to not because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>then the the story of this of the past few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks and everything, Uh, we're talking about two main stories

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<v Speaker 3>that sound like they were pitched by a sleep deprived writer,

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<v Speaker 2>And uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And the first one and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>is Dan Housen helping uncurse the New York Knicks on

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<v Speaker 3>the way to the championship and cursed, cursing Stephen A

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<v Speaker 3>Smith and by default uncursing the Knicks as well, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, I think Stephen A Smith is

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<v Speaker 2>still cursed now, okay, okay, okay. There there was a

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<v Speaker 2>distinction there. It was a cameo where Dan Housen got

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<v Speaker 2>paid human moneies. Yes, yes, yeah, that that humbly requested.

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<v Speaker 2>A fan Fanausen requested that that he lift the curse

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<v Speaker 2>on the Knicks, uncursed the Knicks. As a response to

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<v Speaker 2>that cameo request which Smith, yeah, no, but Stephen A.

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<v Speaker 2>Smith like he went back onto ESPN, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was and reiterated that Stephen A. Smith is still cursed,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Knicks are uncursed. So he kind of made

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<v Speaker 2>that distinction. And ever since that cameo and him like

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<v Speaker 2>fulfilling that request, I guess yes to uncurse the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Knicks. That's when they went on their thirteen game

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and they've only lost and they only lost that

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<v Speaker 3>one game in then, Yes, one game since then and

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<v Speaker 3>they rolled and it's like yes, and then like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the the comeback game twenty nine points down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And much credit to Square Guardian, Yeah, much credit

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<v Speaker 2>to Toronto Raptors alumnus og An Andobi now a champ

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<v Speaker 2>on two different June thirteenths.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, exactly. Hey, you know what you got og

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<v Speaker 3>on your team. Good things are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I still remember his buzzer beater against Boston back in

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty Pandemic playoffs. He hits it, he hits it,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't even look at it. He's just like or he

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<v Speaker 3>sees it go through and he's and he doesn't even

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<v Speaker 3>raise his hands. It's like the sound that runs into

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<v Speaker 3>my head is Andy Sambers, who guys don't look at explosions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he learned a lot about being even

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<v Speaker 2>keel from one Kawhi Leonard when when they were on

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<v Speaker 2>the same team. So that's part of it too. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I mean to go back to the sports

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment of it all. I've been very entertained by by

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Housen and really the coincidence in him uncursing the

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<v Speaker 2>Knicks and it actually happening, you know, because it's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>The Knicks have for the past couple of decades at least,

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<v Speaker 2>have been that team where they'll make it to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>but you never expect them to pull it out, you

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<v Speaker 2>never expect them to win the big one.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're basically saying that the New York Nets, the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Knicks until this year have been the Toronto

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<v Speaker 3>maple Leafs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and now the Toronto maple leafs continue to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Toronto maple leafs so well. I have heard or

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a couple of comments, one of which came from

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<v Speaker 2>our very own Jose Taboada. Then Dan Housen should really

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<v Speaker 2>also uncurse the leafs forgot ah. Yes, but we need

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<v Speaker 2>to pay him human money as though. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I'm a little I don't make that much money,

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<v Speaker 2>so somebody else is going to have to pay him

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<v Speaker 2>to uncurse the leafs. Maple leafs. Sports and Entertainment.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the show right now, pay the human

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<v Speaker 3>moneys to Dan Housen to uncurse the leafs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right, oh man, that's your team exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what I think, Dan Housen even I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you noticed this, but Dan Housen also

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<v Speaker 2>uncur the Carolina Hurricanes a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He did, he did well, he well, he did put

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<v Speaker 3>a curse on them in Game two of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he I think he must have uncursed them

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<v Speaker 3>before that, because the Carolina Hurricanes did go on to

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<v Speaker 3>win the Stanley Cup. The next night, after the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Knicks one, the stat uh one won the Ilari

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<v Speaker 3>o' brien Trophy. So uh and uh well unfortunately, uh well,

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<v Speaker 3>which is which is the craziest thing, because former Maple

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<v Speaker 3>leafue Freddie Anderson is now a Stanley Cup champion.

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<v Speaker 2>However, now who was on who was on the Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Knights that was a former mate belief that didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to win the championship this time, Mitchell Mitch Marner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. Yeah, I heard somebody comment about that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh So you you, as a person who doesn't follow

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<v Speaker 3>the Toronto Maple Leafs, who you know or hockey and

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<v Speaker 3>you know the name of Mitch Marner. That's actually you

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<v Speaker 3>know that that that that that's actually pretty uh phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>That that guy has cost over a Yeah, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the few names I know just because he's a big

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<v Speaker 2>name in the Toronto hockey circles. Yeah, I mean, so

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Housen has really but that guy is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the answers to your question to the you know about

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<v Speaker 2>the strange things that have gotten me emotionally invested, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I first heard about that guy when he

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<v Speaker 2>was in Ring of Honor. I heard about him during

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic and so I saw these kookie vignettes as

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<v Speaker 2>part of ROH Days or the Dying Days of ROH

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<v Speaker 2>before being bought by Tony Kahn. Yes, yeah, Dan Housen. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think dan Hausen was the one that made me

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<v Speaker 2>tune into ROH during the pandemic. Maybe a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>other people, like maybe there's one or two other storylines

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<v Speaker 2>that I caught on too, just because I was digging

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<v Speaker 2>that deep into pro wrestling, because it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>weird time, because the pandemics is a weird time. But

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<v Speaker 2>out of that weird time came Dan Housen for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I learned about his jar of teeth. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>learned about like exactly the nature of his character that

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<v Speaker 2>he explained as Conan O'Brien possessed by a demon's.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, yeah, and his voice, the voice is actually

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<v Speaker 3>really you can actually hear Conan O'Brien being possessed by

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<v Speaker 3>a demon in the Dan Housen voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I learned about him then and I thought, okay, cool, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually he got so much indie traction that

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<v Speaker 2>ae W hired him for a little while featured him

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<v Speaker 2>for a few things. But I mean there's a combination

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<v Speaker 2>of dan Housen getting injured and also Tony conn not

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what to do with him, so he didn't put

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<v Speaker 2>him on as much when he got back from injury. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he got and then his contract ran out,

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<v Speaker 2>and thankfully WWE scooped him up. That's you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've talked about it on the show. If

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<v Speaker 2>there's any company that would know what to do with

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<v Speaker 2>a Dan Hausen, it would be the sports entertainment juggernaut

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<v Speaker 2>of WWE. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, exactly, And you know what, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>get a little bit more into detail about the phenomenon

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<v Speaker 3>of what just happened with Dan Housen.

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<v Speaker 2>And and we're also going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about, uh, the the Al Grande Americano versus o

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of similarities and intertwinings of what happened

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<v Speaker 3>with Dan Housen what happened with the El Grande Americano

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<v Speaker 3>the storyline. We will get into that in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>after this break over here Ringside Heat on New Stalksaco

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<v Speaker 3>nine sixty am back off these promotional considerations.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, this is the little and you're listening to Springside.

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<v Speaker 1>Pastream us Live at Saga nine am.

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<v Speaker 2>Dot c.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo bro It is Vince Russo Man and you are

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<v Speaker 4>listening to Ringside Heat bro It News Talk Saga nine

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<v Speaker 4>sixty am.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome back to Ringside Heat on New Stock Sagaine

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<v Speaker 3>sixty am. Media, Chico at Coco collects and Ringside Heat

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<v Speaker 3>at Ringside Underscore Heat episode two hundred and twenty here

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<v Speaker 3>on Sagon is sixty am. It's called very nice, very

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<v Speaker 3>eaviy with two eyes and very over as well. And

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<v Speaker 3>Chico is doing the Dad Housing curse pose right now

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<v Speaker 3>with the with the eyes all.

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<v Speaker 2>Engaged in everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm very very U see, it's already working. It's

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<v Speaker 3>already worked. I'm stuttering already, so I think you might

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<v Speaker 3>have cursed be already.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back into it then, here we go. Let's go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go break back into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you mentioned before the break that that that if

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<v Speaker 3>there's anybody, if there's any company out there who knows

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<v Speaker 3>what to do with a Dan Housing character, a quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote comedy character in professional wrestling, it would be the WWE.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and they've let him have some creative freedom

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<v Speaker 2>as to like how to get his character over and

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<v Speaker 2>that and whatever lightning in a bottle just happened for

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Housen. Uh. With all of that combined, the past

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months have just been crazy for him. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh. Yes, And that's the thing. It's like it.

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<v Speaker 3>His rise is probably the most improbable rise of a

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<v Speaker 3>WWE character, a WWE superstar to cross over into the

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<v Speaker 3>mainstream culturals like geist, because we've had you know, we've

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<v Speaker 3>had Dwayne the Rock Johnson, We've have Stone Cold, Steve Austin,

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<v Speaker 3>we have Chris Jericho, all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And a few more as well too.

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<v Speaker 3>Hulk Hogan exact exactly to Chico, pointing to his hul

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<v Speaker 3>Camania T shirt that he's wearing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, we have seen.

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<v Speaker 3>The crossover stars, and it is obvious, it is obvious

419
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<v Speaker 3>to see why those four names that I mentioned, Chris Jericho,

420
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the Rock, Stone Called, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan have crossed

421
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 3>over into the mainstream. And of course he could add

422
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Riclair into that, because who doesn't love Riclair. But Dan

423
00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Housen a crossover star in three months in the WWE.

424
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 2>YEP, He's been in the company for what one hundred

425
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 2>and ten days something like that. Yep, exactly, and the

426
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.319
<v Speaker 2>mizz and yes, I know that.

427
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.240
<v Speaker 3>All I've also put them is over on this show

428
00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 3>about being a crossover him stuff, But he has not gotten.

429
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.640
<v Speaker 3>He has not gotten to the level of Dan Hell

430
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 3>has gotten in one hundred and ten days as a

431
00:24:55.400 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 3>WWE superstar. And Dan Housen becoming a crossover star works

432
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.759
<v Speaker 3>because he is not trying to be cool in the

433
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 3>traditional sense.

434
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.599
<v Speaker 2>He's not trying to be Roman Reigns. He's not trying

435
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to be Cody Rhodes. He's not trying to see him punk.

436
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 2>He's not trying to be Dwayne.

437
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 3>He's something some more strange and more and more precious.

438
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:21.039
<v Speaker 3>He Donovan dan Housen. That is a committed, full, fully

439
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.160
<v Speaker 3>committed character. It is a walking bit. It is a

440
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:28.559
<v Speaker 3>merchandising machine. It's a bridge between old school gimmick wrestling

441
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:32.759
<v Speaker 3>and modern meme culture. Dan Housen brings in the non

442
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:36.160
<v Speaker 3>fans because the character is instantly understandable.

443
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Do you agree with that? I totally do. And it's

444
00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 2>also a little bit fool proof because his gimmick is

445
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 2>that he is he is absurd. He is kind of

446
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 2>not in touch with reality. He is so full of

447
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>himself and he's in his own world that he can

448
00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:02.400
<v Speaker 2>be that character anywhere, any time. M hmm. And he

449
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.160
<v Speaker 2>can like like we all know the character of Dan Housen,

450
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 2>but nobody cares to know Donovan, and so he can

451
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>protect his like real life exactly. You can keep that

452
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 2>separation just by the nature of that character. So it's

453
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 2>that rare lightning in a bottle and it has hit

454
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:26.000
<v Speaker 2>across like he's transcending professional wrestling and he truly is

455
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 2>a sports entertainer like no one else has been. Uh.

456
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 2>It's such a quick rise, meteoric rise into the cultural zeitgeist,

457
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>like you said.

458
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.960
<v Speaker 3>M And here's a couple of a couple of other

459
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>points about that. I would say he also is bringing

460
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 3>back old fans because he feels like the throwback to

461
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>when wrestling was allowed to be weird. I mean, like, yes,

462
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.359
<v Speaker 3>we lament every now and then that like you know,

463
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:57.119
<v Speaker 3>May Young gave birth to a hand as the Mark

464
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Henry uh and then but and he's like that right.

465
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:01.839
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

466
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 3>But the thing is, the curse gimmick is so absurd

467
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>everybody and everybody. I don't think there's anybody out there

468
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 3>who thinks that it's real. Everybody knows it's fake, but everybody,

469
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 3>including Stephen A. Smith, just completely agrees to play along

470
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 3>with the gimmick.

471
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. And even people like Ben Stiller

472
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 2>have have come on TV and acknowledged Dan Housen, you know,

473
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like the only thing, Okay, the one thing or one

474
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>of the things that I wish did happen during the

475
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 2>course of the NBA Finals was I wish that Dan

476
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Housen had gotten his wish, his demand Housen rather to

477
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>be seated courtside beside Tim Shalom or as you said before, Chamalay,

478
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>there you go. I wish I wish that Dan Housen

479
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>was was that they gave in to that demand and

480
00:27:54.319 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Sadam court side, uh say, ringside courtside between Chama and

481
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Kylie Jenner. No, it would been very amusing. Oh that

482
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:07.680
<v Speaker 2>was great. I mean, like, and hey, you know what

483
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it is? It is? The thing is here. Here's the thing. Though,

484
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I believe I've heard something.

485
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I heard a rumor, it might be confirmed, but I

486
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 3>think he is actually going to be part of the

487
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 3>New York Knicks championship parade.

488
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it has publicly been posted by w Fans

489
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Sports Radio in New York. Who are going who are

490
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 2>going to be part of? I think part part of

491
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 2>the championship parade. They invited him to be their guest

492
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>as part of the New York Knicks Championship Parade. Goodness gracious,

493
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>that's that's online. So I mean, I would guess that

494
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Dan Housen will probably take up that offer and be

495
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 2>there for the parade.

496
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh he better, he had better. I mean, live it up, Donovan.

497
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, seriously, I am so happy for that guy, and

498
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>he seems like such a genuine sweetheart of a guy.

499
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 2>That's the real man. But I mean, like the character

500
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>is just so entertaining and deserves the success that he's

501
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 2>been getting. I'm going to carry it forward and hope

502
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that and oh my gosh, and all of this is

503
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>just aligning so well. I'm finding it hard to find

504
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the words because I think the stars are aligning so

505
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 2>well for the schedule that ww has upcoming, because on Saturday,

506
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>July eighteenth will be the fiftieth Saturday Night's main event,

507
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>that's right, and the first time that Saturday Night's main

508
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 2>event will be at Madison Square Garden since August of

509
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven. And what better way to come

510
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>back home to MSG because WW is known as the

511
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 2>New York promotion of course, right, what better way to

512
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>come back home to WWE at the world's most famous

513
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>arena than to bring out Dan Housen maybe retire, maybe

514
00:29:54.920 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 2>retire his cape in the rafters amazing. And and you know

515
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>who's a gigantic WWE fan, the Finals MVP, Jalen Brunson. Yes,

516
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that they're trying to get Brunson on board

517
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>to show up at his home arena, yep, and to

518
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>have some sort of interaction with not only the crowd,

519
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>but hopefully with Dan Housen. I mean there are Brunsenhausen

520
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>t shirts like this. Is how far that that the

521
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 2>collaboration has gone between Dan Housen and the Knicks? Uh,

522
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you know and the NBA and w W That the

523
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Dan Housen Knicks merchandise was available at the NBA store

524
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>at the games. Yes, And that's not a wrestling event,

525
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not, No, it's not at all. It's it's ye

526
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 2>mainstream sports culture.

527
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not just pop culture, but mainstream sports culture has

528
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>embraced them.

529
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's That's part of what is blowing my mind.

530
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm hoping that for the very next Saturday Night's

531
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Main Event on July eighteenth, that all of this comes

532
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>together and it's just one big spectacle. I hope they

533
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 2>even get you know, Adam Silver, whoever to agree to

534
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 2>let the Larry O'Brien Trophy be at Saturday Nights Main event, well, I.

535
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Believe that's well, that's up to the next now, because

536
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 3>they own the trophy like this like that, because the

537
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 3>the Lario Brian Trophy, like the World's the Commissioner's Trophy

538
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>in Major League Baseball and the h and the and

539
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the NFL Championship Trophy there a new one is made

540
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 3>every year. So the trophy that the New York Knicks

541
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.759
<v Speaker 3>got for this championship is under their custody, so it's okay,

542
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 3>so they can decide what to do with it, yes, exactly,

543
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>and it'll probably be in the same building. So I'm

544
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, I think this is a huge opportunity

545
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>even even to benefit the NBA and specifically the New

546
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.079
<v Speaker 3>York Knicks in terms of market value, you know, like

547
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 3>is it's all entertainment. All professional sports have entertainment aspects

548
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 3>exactly exactly. And that's the one thing as well too,

549
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>because of because it's mainstream sports, it's it's supposed to

550
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 3>be everybody will should be able to get involved in,

551
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, cheering for your local sports team, and it's

552
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 3>it's something that's supposed to be able to cross over generations,

553
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>across over demographics. And that's what Dan Housen is as well.

554
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Because he's weird, but he's not alienating. Kids are able

555
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 3>to enjoy him. Adults can enjoy him because they can

556
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 3>enjoy the irony of what's going on.

557
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Yea, and they understand and and they understand.

558
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>That, you know, you don't have to you don't have

559
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 3>to break the k fab for this over here. You

560
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 3>can just participate it. Let the kids participate it, because

561
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 3>it's just fun to do. Hardcore fans appreciate the commitment

562
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 3>to the bit. Casual fans are in on the joke

563
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 3>in no time flat because he's easy to explain. You

564
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 3>don't need twenty minutes to tell you who Dad Housing is.

565
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 3>He's very nice, he's very evil. He curses people. That's it, yep.

566
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>And so now I'm intrigued and everything he does so

567
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>whenever he pops up on ww television or somewhere else,

568
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, my eyes are glued to that product. So

569
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes I feel like checking out like ESPN's YouTube

570
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 2>channels to see if they somehow feature Dan Housen, Like,

571
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, so there's a bit of like draw to

572
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>different things too now so and also back to WWE's product,

573
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like I'm intrigued by him and sort of my eyes

574
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 2>are brought back to the wb product because he's been

575
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.559
<v Speaker 2>so successful and so entertaining.

576
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and you know what, because of that, that that improbable.

577
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say impossible, because it just because if

578
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:02.559
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Garnett said anything is possible, robbable success to another

579
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 3>improbable success story.

580
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>When we come back from the break, we will talk

581
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>about we'll move.

582
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 3>We'll move from Dan Housen and the next to a

583
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 3>storyline that may have been one of the most beautifully

584
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 3>stupid and stupidly beautiful things that WWE and Triplet have

585
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>ever done. El Grande Americano versus og L Grande Americano,

586
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 3>The Match to honor, the match for the honor to

587
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 3>represent Mexico between two men who are not Mexican.

588
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>We know we know they're not Mexican.

589
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Somehow, by the end, it felt like the fatal Buca

590
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Biba itself was hang in the balance, and we'll talk

591
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 3>about that when we come back from the break. On

592
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<v Speaker 3>News Tim Scaca at sixty am. This is Ringside back

593
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<v Speaker 3>after these promotional considerations.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello everyone, this is former pro Wrestling Slash Sports Entertainment

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<v Speaker 5>referee Jimmy Corderos, and you're listening to the new voice

596
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<v Speaker 5>of Pro Wrestling Slash Sports Entertainment in the GTA Ringside

597
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<v Speaker 5>Heat right here our News Talk SAGA nine.

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<v Speaker 1>No Radio, No Problem stream is live on SAGA nine

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, I'm Shan Spears and you're listening to Ringside Heat.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome back to Ringside Heat a News Talk SAGA

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<v Speaker 3>nine sixty Am. Lex stand at Lextan Media Chico at

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<v Speaker 3>Coca COLECX, Ringside Heat at Ringside Underscore Heat Episode two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty, Very nice, very even, very over and

605
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<v Speaker 3>because Dan Housen, I believe that Dan Housen's rise and

606
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:48.159
<v Speaker 3>his success have very very big similarities to what happened

607
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 3>just a couple of weeks ago as well with Triple

608
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<v Speaker 3>UH with the El Grande Americano versus og al Grande

609
00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Americanos storyline, the storyline that should not have worked. Agreed,

610
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 3>it was an absurd premise treated with total seriousness, and

611
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 3>what happened was wrestling alchemy. And first of all, here's here,

612
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 3>here's here's here's a couple of points. The names alone

613
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 3>sound like parody, because exactly that's exactly what it is.

614
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 3>What Chad Gable started that one out to be as

615
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:23.880
<v Speaker 3>a parody. Basically, the premise is deeply ridiculous.

616
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Neither man is Mexican.

617
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 3>That should have destroyed the emotional mistakes of the entire storyline. Instead,

618
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it made the whole thing even more surreal, especially when,

619
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 3>in your words, in your your naming, El venti Americano,

620
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 3>uh came that, I came by and started speaking perfect

621
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Spanish to the to the trip to our crowd. The

622
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 3>match then became even about identity, respect, performance, tradition, and spectacle.

623
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<v Speaker 3>And because of all of this, the crowd chose to

624
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<v Speaker 3>believe it, because the performers believed in it.

625
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically they dove in fully, even even the bookers

626
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 2>down in triple A. And now that's such an interesting thing.

627
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how the timing works with this.

628
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the behind the scenes of everything. But

629
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>when Chad Gable started his journey as the original El

630
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Grande Americano, uh, you know, like over a year ago

631
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe or less than a year ago, whatever it was.

632
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if WWE clued him in on like

633
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the purchase of Triple A that was imminent. I don't know,

634
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>because the timing just seemed like to be very very

635
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 2>like lucky for him, because he definitely started doing those

636
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>vignettes and stuff. I think before Triple A was announced

637
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 2>as being purchased by by the KO Group or whatever. Yes.

638
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 3>So, so just for the story or for the for

639
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 3>the timeline here, El Grande Americano, Chad Gable started.

640
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

641
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 3>He began appearing as America Americano on WWE RAW March

642
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty four, twenty twenty five. And Triplet ah literally bit

643
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Triple I was acquired by WWE on April it was,

644
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 3>it was announced on April the nineteenth, twenty twenty five.

645
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

646
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so this so literally a month before Chad

647
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Gable took on the role of Al Grande Americano. That's

648
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:38.280
<v Speaker 3>when the announcement that Triplet is now a ww property basically.

649
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy, man. I think it was just I

650
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like maybe dumb luck because uh man, yeah, I

651
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 2>mean Chad wouldn't have known. I don't think they probably

652
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>not that the purchase was coming. And then I guess

653
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>when they get into it, maybe WWE didn't really necessarily

654
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>know what to do with the Al Grande Americano stuff

655
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:03.079
<v Speaker 2>long term. Uh. And then I guess the booking team

656
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.639
<v Speaker 2>down at Triple A, of course, as we know, headed

657
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>by the Undertaker, I guess they they needed some like

658
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>crossover stuff too because they need WWE's global reach to

659
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>rub off on Triple A too. So so that kind

660
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>of started that journey. And then I guess Chad goes

661
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>down an injury, right he did as Elgrindi Americano, and

662
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 2>then so they brought in another El Grinde Americano. I

663
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>just never thought that it would take on the life

664
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 2>that it's taken on. I mean, it ignited the Mexican

665
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>culture and like you said, Chad Gable, like you know,

666
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:49.639
<v Speaker 2>like Caucasian American guy. Uh. And then the yeah German

667
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>guy who's pretending to be an American guy behind a

668
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>mask and speaking perfect Spanish. Just the whole thing is crazy. Yeah,

669
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's such a and it could have been such

670
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 2>a mess. But I love that the Triple A crowd

671
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 2>really took it on and and you know, chose their

672
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>sides and informed Triple A and ww like you know,

673
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:15.159
<v Speaker 2>like who they really supported. And then for a while too,

674
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>it had that it had that Brett Hart ninety sixth

675
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>dynamic where like one he'd get cheered somewhere and then

676
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 2>booed in the other place. Yes, you know, they had

677
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>that thing where in America original Al Grande Americano was

678
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>getting cheered and the second one was getting bowed, and

679
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>while in Mexico the other way around, the the more

680
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>recent Algrinde Americano was getting cheered and the original was

681
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>getting bowed, and the original was sort of like disrespecting

682
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Mexican stuff, you know, and couldn't and

683
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 2>couldn't speak Spanish. Really, Yes, it's kind of hilarious how

684
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 2>he like really couldn't and and he like tried to

685
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 2>just like put off all the people who ask questions

686
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and in Spanish, yes, exactly, yes, So it was just

687
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was. It was weird to

688
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>start clunky at different parts and then it hit a

689
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>stride and then the crowd kind of like was the

690
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 2>glue that brought it all together mm hmm. And it

691
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>just became a phenomenon.

692
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Man and and the and the match itself was probably

693
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 3>it was captivating from bell to bell before and after

694
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 3>it was the story.

695
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh the story was what's your name of Bizardo or

696
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 2>something was Andrea was Bizarrete or something?

697
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>So the yeah and the partner of Venti, yes, sure,

698
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, and like that just just just like the

699
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 3>just this the emotional beats of the story, the wrestling

700
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 3>beats as well to uh, everything just everything just very

701
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 3>just clicked so much. But that's because over the year

702
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.639
<v Speaker 3>since March the twenty fourth, when they introduced the old

703
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Grande American character.

704
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, and when.

705
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Ludvik Kaiser became the second Grande American Venti uh he

706
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:18.159
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, just and everybody, as you said, bought into everything.

707
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I would say this the stakes that the stakes were

708
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 3>fab but the emotion was real. It was respect for

709
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Luca Libre, it was audience investment and the performance legitacy

710
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 3>from both legitimacy from both of those performers from both

711
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 3>of those wrestlers.

712
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it created such h.

713
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Like like wrestling artistry, and that's something that you could

714
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you would see from from that, From from that, from

715
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 3>what happened with Stone Cold the Rock back in WrestleMania

716
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 3>X seven, Daniel Bryan winning again I've mentioned these before,

717
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 3>winning at WrestleMania at thirty the n Disputed Championship.

718
00:42:58.480 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

719
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 3>They there were so many things that just came together

720
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 3>because because because the performers bought in, it made the

721
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 3>crowd buy in, and everybody had a stake in making

722
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 3>it all happen, and it had.

723
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Dave Lagrecov busted open Radio calling that mask versus Mask

724
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 2>match the best match he's seen in a very long time.

725
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I would say the same. Like I went into that

726
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 2>night not having sort of completely followed everything, but even

727
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>the vignettes leading up to the main event that night,

728
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 2>top notch stuff, like it was explained so well that

729
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I was more than ready to see this match happen.

730
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And the match itself, like the execution was amazing, Like yes,

731
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 2>everything the emotional peaks and valleys, like the whole story

732
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 2>of the just the match itself and everything riding on it,

733
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.599
<v Speaker 2>like the drawa the build up matches as well too. Yeah,

734
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 2>this the the the drama of like partially ripping each

735
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>guy's mask, you know, like that whole thing. And I'm

736
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 2>not even like a full on fan of Triple A

737
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 2>in the Mexican tradition, but I got into it man

738
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 2>like it was really it was pro wrestling magic.

739
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm exactly. And that's where I and and see

740
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:29.400
<v Speaker 3>that's the thing that we're where both these two stories

741
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:33.960
<v Speaker 3>of Dan Housen and the El Grande Americanos they wouldn't

742
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 3>They would never conventionally intertwine with each other or find

743
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 3>similarities with each other. But here's where I think it

744
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 3>is as well as that is that the lesson from

745
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 3>Dan Housen and El Grande Americano is this wrestling does

746
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 3>not have to become less weird to reach more people.

747
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>It just has to be more committed. Dan Housen did

748
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>not cross over by becoming normal. El Grande Americano both

749
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.559
<v Speaker 3>El Grande Americanas did not go over by becoming logical.

750
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>They work because wrestling remembered what it is sports entertainment,

751
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 3>theater with bruises, myth and merch, comedy and consequences. Ritual

752
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 3>performed in spandex under suspicious letting, and when it's done right,

753
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the crowd does not ask why am I cheering?

754
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>They just do.

755
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 1>There.

756
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 2>It is.

757
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 3>That looks like we're out of time here actually on

758
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 3>the radio, just in time. Actually, this is great. You know,

759
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.800
<v Speaker 3>we had a great I mean, out of all the

760
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>things that we could have discussed, I think those are

761
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>the two great things that have happened with the pro

762
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 3>wrestling industry over the past couple of weeks that we've

763
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 3>been off the air here or that we've been running reruns.

764
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.559
<v Speaker 3>But but that's one of the reasons why we just

765
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.360
<v Speaker 3>love this stuff. It's like it's because it's because it's

766
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 3>because of this. This is what it really breaks it

767
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.320
<v Speaker 3>becomes too. We love it because of this.

768
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yep, this is my stories. Man. When people say I

769
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 2>want to watch my stories, you know, like when they

770
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 2>want to escape the pressures of life and you know

771
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>they want to just get into their form of entertainment,

772
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 2>this is this is my form of entertainment too, man,

773
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm. Per professional wrestling since I was young entertain

774
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>me because it's not just the sportsy things. Yes, it's

775
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:33.559
<v Speaker 2>it's this drama it's this like weirdness. It's it's all

776
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 2>of it. It's it's not oh boy, it's not just

777
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the one aspect of it. It's it's all of the

778
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:48.119
<v Speaker 2>aspects that we've just discussed. It really is like the

779
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 2>happy medium of sports entertainment.

780
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:51.599
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, I.

781
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Love it, hey, exactly.

782
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Wrestling very very much works well when everybody commits to

783
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the bit until the bit becomes truth. And with that

784
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna signing off over here. Thank you to Chico

785
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 3>at Coca Collects. Follow him and his wrestling collection and

786
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 3>his general collection collection at Coca Collects.

787
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm lex Tan. You can follow me at lex Tan Media.

788
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 3>You can follow the show at Ringside Underscore, Heat and hey,

789
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 3>guess what, we're very nice, we're very evil, and we

790
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 3>very much remember the things you've probably forgot.
