WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.039 I'd prefer my name and email not be used, even though, 2 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.039 as I've said before, the ship has already sailed. In 3 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:18.000 regard to people thinking I'm crazy, lol, he writes, this 4 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:20.480 is in reference to a comment that you made about 5 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:26.719 elders with dementia in the video Bigfoot Kills a Rogue Gugwy. Now, 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.399 no worries. I'm not attacking or a complaining, but rather 7 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:35.880 suggesting an alternative explanation for occurrences of that sort. In 8 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:39.200 any case, A funny thing back several weeks to a 9 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:42.200 month ago, when my dad was in rehab after having 10 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:46.079 a pacemaker installed. He kept complaining for three or four 11 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:48.759 days about being able to hear a conversation in his 12 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:51.399 room in the wee hours of the morning between two 13 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:56.000 people who weren't there. We checked the area around the room, 14 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.920 and on one side there was in fact another room, 15 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.759 and the walls in the place were notoriously thin, But 16 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.760 on the nights in question, no one was in that room, 17 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.439 so it would have been unlikely that he would have 18 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.599 heard any voices from that source. The other side of 19 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.480 the room shared a wall with a nurse's station that 20 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.040 was only occupied during the day in a broom closet 21 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:24.159 on the adjoining hallway that was never used. Several others 22 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.799 who had been assigned to that room, I was told 23 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.040 by one of the orderlies or maybe it was a 24 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:33.920 nurse I can't remember, had reported and complained about similar 25 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:38.280 occurrences there. He said that he didn't know, but maybe 26 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.719 that room was haunted. There had been at least one 27 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.840 death in the room, he said. One of the residents 28 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:49.560 apparently overheard and later told me that several people had 29 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:54.079 had similar experiences that he had heard about. All of 30 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:57.040 that made me think about your comment in the Bigfoot 31 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:00.840 Kills the Road Gugwe video about people in nursing homes 32 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.519 walking around talking to people who weren't or aren't there. 33 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:09.960 Maybe the people those residents are talking to are really there. 34 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.560 Maybe they're ghosts or similar or you and the staff 35 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.879 just couldn't see them. And as I said, maybe that's 36 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:22.639 on an alternative explanation to just dementia. I'm reminded of 37 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:26.680 Terry Pratchett's line about wizards, something to the effect that 38 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:31.319 wizards can see what's really there. Maybe the elders who 39 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.439 are talking to the air, as it were, are actually 40 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:40.039 conversing with someone invisible who is really there, and that 41 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.960 could very well be the case whoever they're talking to. 42 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.520 In just a few instances I've seen in the nursing home. 43 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.960 Like I refer to people who don't know what I'm 44 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.240 talking about, I was talking about visiting my mother in 45 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.560 law in a nursing home. I haven't spent much time 46 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.280 in nursing homes. My grandmother was in one for years 47 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.120 and we would go see her, but we would just 48 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.439 go straight to her room and sit with her for 49 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.680 a couple hours, and then we'd leave. We didn't really 50 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:10.319 interact with the other patients at the at the care facility. 51 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.280 But in this case, this nursing home, retirement home, whatever 52 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.960 you want to call it, here seemed to be a 53 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.439 little more maybe crowded, I'm not sure how you would 54 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.319 say that, but the people were more active and they 55 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.639 would walk around and there were a couple that I 56 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:29.680 would see just talking. They'd just be sitting there, like 57 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.879 you walk by their rooms. All the rooms are open, 58 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.919 and they're just sitting there on their bed just talking 59 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.759 to somebody. I don't know what it is, and I 60 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:40.919 don't know if someone is there or not. There's so 61 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.080 many mysteries to this and what happens to the mind 62 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.719 when we get older we or if we begin to 63 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.639 experience the effects of dementia and Alzheimer's. And I don't 64 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.080 know the connection between the two. I pretty much just 65 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.919 know it's two different words, and one of them means 66 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.400 one of them means one thing, one of them means 67 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.080 the other. Not other's experts out there, your parents or 68 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.639 someone you know, your wife's spouse, somebody's had Alzheimer's and dementia. 69 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:09.919 So I'm not trying to be an expert on any 70 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.120 of this. The point was is that they're talking to 71 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:17.399 somebody and in their mind there is somebody there that 72 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.759 they see. I could tell you some stories about my 73 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:25.959 mother in law had a roommate a she was just 74 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.839 living on Social Security, and you have to they stack 75 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.920 people up in rooms. She was very comfortable, everything was 76 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.079 working out pretty good. I honestly, I don't really think 77 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:37.879 she knew where she was, but she was happy. She 78 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:41.680 was always smiling, and she was a lovely, lovely woman 79 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.680 and I miss her terribly. My wife does too. But 80 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:51.040 her roommate would often go off on these tirades about 81 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.560 people she would see in the corner, and she would 82 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.680 be screaming at them, screaming at him in the corner 83 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:01.639 and saying really really kind of strain stuff. And so 84 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.319 she was seeing or imagining someone and maybe there was 85 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:09.720 someone bad, some entity bad there in the corner. Actually, 86 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.839 she was kind of pointing. At first. I thought she 87 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:14.920 was pointing at me, and I was like, you're not 88 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.279 talking to me, are you. She never acknowledged me. She 89 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.759 just kept pointing, and I can't tell you what she 90 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.560 was saying. It was kind of it was kind of creepy, 91 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.399 but she was a sweet old lady and she passed 92 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.199 away a couple of months after that. But maybe there 93 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.839 was some kind of evil entity in the corner sitting, 94 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:34.959 you know, I don't know. Maybe it was ready to 95 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:39.680 pounce on me. Who knows. But anyway, all that to say, 96 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.920 I thought this email was interesting. I thought i'd share 97 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.519 it with you. Has nothing to do with cryptids, but 98 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.759 you know me, I'm always doing something different. So let's 99 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:55.959 go to another story. A few years ago, I was 100 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.120 sitting home alone on Saturday night and I was looking 101 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.240 for something to do, and I couldn't find anyone to 102 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.319 hang out with. So I headed an nor to a 103 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.439 secluded spot that I used to frequent to do a 104 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:10.279 little target shooting. The moon was bright and the lonely 105 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.040 Arizona desert at night, and I drove seven miles down 106 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.480 a two lane highway to where a hidden dirt trail 107 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.319 took me a mile and a half to another trail 108 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:23.079 that wrapped around the mountain. My plan was to fire 109 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.639 each of the weapons that I'd brought until they were empty, 110 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:29.319 and then head back home. The whole time I was there, 111 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.319 I couldn't shake the feeling that I was being watched. Man. 112 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.600 That is a huge theme of this podcast, isn't it. 113 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.439 Everybody feels like they're being watched. Anyway, back to the story. 114 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.000 I had tracked a movement on the mountain side fifty 115 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.879 meters away when I got there, and it looked like 116 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.879 large piercing eyes of a towering being. But I wrote 117 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.720 it off as a coyotee or something that only looked 118 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.160 a big because of the angle I was viewing it from. 119 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.639 I figured it would run off when I started firing. 120 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.480 The first guy and I planned fire was a pistol. 121 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.439 I took an aim and I pulled the trigger. Clicked. 122 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:07.759 That's odd, I thought, and I racked the slide and 123 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:11.199 the round fell out, and I pulled the trigger again. Click. 124 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:16.040 For seven rounds it was click, rack, drop. I must 125 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:20.120 have some bad AMMO, I told myself. I picked up 126 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.800 my eighteen fifty one and I cocked it and I 127 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:28.199 squeezed the trigger. Click. The cap didn't discharge. I tried 128 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.879 it again. It didn't discharge again, and there was a 129 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.680 hiss from the fourth attempt, indicating a partial ignition. But 130 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:38.279 other than that, all five rounds were duds. It was 131 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.199 a piece of crap, anyway, I said. Next was my 132 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.439 hunting rifle. It was my favorite. So I brought two 133 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:50.279 stripper clips and I cycled it and clicked. Every round 134 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.120 was cycle, rinse, repeat in both magazines. It was the 135 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.279 same for every other gun i'd brought with me that night, 136 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.120 and I'd brought quite a few. The best I'd managed 137 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:07.839 was one partial ignition in my eighteen fifty One. Months later, 138 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:10.639 I tried this same AMMO in the same guns, and 139 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:14.839 I had no problems at all. My frustration with my 140 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.879 weapons took a back seat when I suddenly tasted a pungent, 141 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.680 foul smell, followed by the sound of footsteps, and I 142 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.319 glanced back up to where I had seen the eyes earlier, 143 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.240 and it was back, and I got the impression that 144 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.519 it was glaring at me. Adjacent to it on the 145 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.639 other hillside were two or three more sets of eyes, 146 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:38.720 and I looked around and I saw five more figures 147 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:43.240 down in the valley in Unison. They all moved in 148 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.799 on me, and I left all the guns in the 149 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:48.279 bed of my truck, and I slammed the tailgate shut 150 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.759 and jumped in the cab and turned the key to 151 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.000 start it. The fear was welling in my stomach and 152 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:56.720 it jumped into my throat when I realized that my truck, 153 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:00.559 for the first time ever, failed to start. I turned 154 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:04.320 the key again. Nothing, and three more times I turned 155 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.320 that key, and then finally, as a delayed reaction, it 156 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:12.720 sprang to life. I threw it into driving a massed accelerator, 157 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.440 and twice it spun in the soft sand and the 158 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.799 cac die before it caught and lurched forward. I never 159 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:21.360 dropped it below thirty miles per hour until I hit 160 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.399 the asphalt, where I pushed the speedometer to one hundred. 161 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:28.039 I opted to take the interstate home that night and 162 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:32.799 stay off the dinky desert bike roads. As I drove, 163 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.600 I called my girlfriend to help calm me down, but 164 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:38.320 that didn't work. So I called my buddy, who was 165 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.039 always out there with me, and when I told him 166 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.240 everything that had happened, he and I had the same thought, Well, 167 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.039 I'm so anal about my guns having even one act 168 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.840 up as a rarity, but all of them. I happened 169 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.080 to glance down at the clock as we were talking, 170 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:58.759 and it was one am. I left home at eight pm. 171 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.600 I drove forty five minutes to the spot, and I 172 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:03.679 was there for less than an hour and was back 173 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.559 on the highway in less than twenty minutes, talking to 174 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:09.840 my friend on the phone. It shouldn't have been any 175 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:14.840 later than ten pm, but it was one am. How 176 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.840 did that much time pass so quickly? And to this 177 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:22.240 day I have no explanation for it. When I got 178 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.600 home that night, I'll pull the powder from the black 179 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.960 powder rifles to investigate, and every one of them had 180 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.600 exactly the same amount of powder they would have if 181 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:34.120 they'd been fired. I waited till the next morning to 182 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:37.600 go check my Kentucky rifle, but all the measurements were right. 183 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:42.080 I'll never go out to the desert alone at night again. 184 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:44.879 It's been a few years since this happened, and it 185 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:48.440 still shakes me up to go out at night at all. 186 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.120 I won't write what I know these creatures to be. 187 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:55.240 I am superstitious, and after that night, I don't want 188 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.559 to take any chances. It's taken me years just to 189 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:02.320 write down this incident at all. I'm riding it now 190 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.919 because a few days ago I went back. I had 191 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:09.039 to get some answers. My friend came with me this time, 192 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.559 and we arrived before the sunset and we walked the 193 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.840 whole area. The spot where I first saw the eyes 194 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.559 is inaccessible by humans. The distance they covered when they 195 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:23.039 moved in on me was too far and too difficult 196 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:26.080 to do in the time that they'd done it. We 197 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.879 found evidence of dwellings made by something beside Cody's and 198 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:34.039 Jivelina's and the Palo Verde tree that had been snapped 199 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.559 off seven feet off the ground and bent down to 200 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.440 create a wall that blocked the sun on that side. 201 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.360 We climbed up to it and found scratch marks that 202 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.039 looked suspiciously like claw marks, and the ground underneath it 203 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:52.039 had been picked clean of stones. Considering the fact that 204 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:55.080 the entire area was made of stones, that was a 205 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:59.720 bit odd. As night drew near, we walked further down 206 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.159 to the U shaped valley and I made a fire 207 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:05.039 to burn some of the rains trash left by other people. 208 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.840 I was hoping it would draw in the prying eyes 209 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:12.000 I had seen before. It was uneventful until it wasn't. 210 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.519 I heard a rustling of what I thought was a 211 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.360 rabbit or a cody and the bushes to our east, 212 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.240 and seconds later I saw a figure crossing the slope 213 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.879 we had just walked down. I knew immediately that it 214 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.279 was not a hiker. I trained my rifle on it 215 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.519 and watched as it traversed the hard terrain, and it 216 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.039 stopped behind a tree that partially blocked my view. It 217 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.320 was too dark to get a clear picture, but I 218 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.720 could see well enough to know that the creature was 219 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.399 staring at us, and it didn't like what we were doing. 220 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:47.000 A feeling of ill intent swept over me, and I 221 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.000 realized that I may not like what this creature was planning. 222 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:55.519 It stood behind the massive paaloverde for five minutes, staring 223 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:57.639 through a fork in the tree that I knew was 224 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.759 well over six feet above the ground. I was not 225 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.679 comfortable with the idea of being stared at by one 226 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.320 of these things that had run me off years before. 227 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.120 My buddy suggested that I fire a warning shot, and 228 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:12.799 I managed to prove a large branch above its head, 229 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.159 and the branch fell at its feet as the shot 230 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:21.399 echoed through the valley, but the creature never moved. A 231 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.279 few minutes later, we decided it was time to leave, 232 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.000 and I maintained my staring contests with the beast while 233 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.440 my buddy packed up. I knew not to back down 234 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.440 to this animal. I've always been told they'll charge and 235 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.200 if I turn my back, but if I stay firm, 236 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.120 they'll be more wary. Although I didn't see any others 237 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.720 that night, I felt their presence as we drove back 238 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:49.080 around the mountain. The Sognooran Desert is my home. I 239 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.279 grew up here and I camped here since I was 240 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.639 a kid, and I know the Native Americans who have 241 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:57.919 lived here since long before the Europeans arrived. I've shared 242 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:00.600 this story with them, and they've told me their own tales. 243 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:04.440 I don't know for certain what these creatures are, but 244 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:06.840 I'm sure that you can guess the name that I 245 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:11.360 would give them. The supernatural is never my first thought. 246 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.320 But if anyone else has an explanation, I'd love to 247 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:20.440 hear it. What I need most of all is answers. 248 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:25.240 In nineteen ninety, my husband and I moved to Bentonville, Arkansas, 249 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:29.639 from Texas, Okay. The event takes place in Arkansas, close 250 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.279 to Bentonville, up in the northwest part of the state. 251 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.080 She writes. My parents helped us load the U haul. Dad, 252 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.480 my husband, and my little brother went in the truck, 253 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.559 and me and Mom and my sister were in the car. 254 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:47.200 There's a turnpike that starts near Paris, Texas, and it 255 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:51.559 goes to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it's called the Indian Nation Turnpike. 256 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:57.159 This turnpike in nineteen ninety was the loneliest road in Oklahoma. 257 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.320 Mom said that I should get some sleep deep and 258 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:04.440 I could take the wheel in Muskogee. I was asleep 259 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:06.919 when I heard my mother scream What the hell was that? 260 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.679 With sleepy eyes, I could see that she was pale 261 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:14.480 with fear. Maybe it was amazement, and I told her 262 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:18.120 to stop and let me dry, but she wouldn't. Dad 263 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:21.799 stopped at the gas station in McAllister, and he looked worried. 264 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.399 He and my mother hugged each other and he said, 265 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.159 no one says a word. Well, we were all asleep, 266 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.039 so none of us had seen it. And later Mom 267 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.159 told me in the car that she had seen an 268 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:38.080 eight foot tall naked man covered in hair walking on 269 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.519 the side of the road, and when we passed it, 270 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:46.200 it ran between our two cars. I guess my father 271 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.679 had seen it too, but he didn't say anything, and 272 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.080 my mother swore it was a bigfoot up until the 273 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.720 day she passed away. We never told our kids this 274 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:02.200 story until my son had his encounter. Willis, Texas is 275 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.480 like any small town, and when we moved here, the 276 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:10.039 population was four thousand people. We moved to a neighborhood 277 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.879 of mobile homes and it was wooded in some spots 278 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.440 and heavily wooded on the north side of the street. 279 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.519 In that area, a young boy could explore to his 280 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:24.879 heart's content. Sam Houston National Forest is connected to those woods. 281 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.440 One day, my son and his friend came into the 282 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.960 house and they were breathing hard and scared to the 283 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:34.960 point that he was shaking. I asked them what had happened, 284 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.679 but his friend kept telling me that he just wanted 285 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.159 to go home. My husband told him that he would 286 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.919 take him home, but he said he had called his 287 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:45.039 dad and they were going to meet us on the trail. 288 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:50.279 At this time, my son was eleven years old. My energetic, 289 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.320 talkative boy was quiet, and he went to his room 290 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.360 and he shut the door. My husband and I were concerned, 291 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.879 so we went in to talk to him. The blinds 292 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.559 and curtains and sat in the dark, and when we 293 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.559 came in, he asked us not to turn the lights on, 294 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.440 but he knew that I have a phobia of the dark, 295 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:13.000 so he turned on his lamp. He kept saying, please 296 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:16.400 believe me, I know what I saw, and we said, well, 297 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.319 tell us what you saw and we will believe you. 298 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:23.240 He and his friends went to do their boy things 299 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.319 in the woods, exploring and all, and soon it was 300 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:29.000 getting late and the other boys decided to head home, 301 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:32.000 and he and another friend decided to check a pond 302 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.880 to see if there were any fist jumping. Then they 303 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:39.160 heard footsteps in the woods. They thought maybe it was 304 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.559 an animal like a deer or a cow, but then 305 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:46.000 they figured out it was walking toward them, and then 306 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:51.240 they heard a whistle and then the walking stopped. His 307 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.759 friend told him that he was getting spooked and they 308 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.160 decided to walk back to their bikes, and then the 309 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.799 thing started walking beside them in the woods. Well, my 310 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.640 son looked over and he saw something red and dark 311 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.599 in the trees. He said it was tall, and he 312 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:10.519 kept telling his friend to walk faster. He knew if 313 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:14.160 he ran, this thing would chase after him. And finally 314 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:17.359 they got to their bikes and they took off. They 315 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:20.279 could hear the creature running beside them in the woods still, 316 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.400 and at one point his friend's chain broke on the bike. 317 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.000 My son stopped long enough for his friend to run 318 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.319 and jump on the bike, and at that time he 319 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.839 looked over and there was a face of a human 320 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.119 ape man looking right at him from the woods. He said, 321 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.920 the teeth were the scariest thing about it. Well, my 322 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.119 son took off, and when he looked back in the 323 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:46.240 mirrors of his bike, this thing stepped out in the road. 324 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:48.880 He said he about peede his pants, but he kept 325 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.960 on going until he got to the house. And then 326 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.720 he looked at me and he said, Mom, this thing 327 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:58.319 is real and it's here. Two days later, I was 328 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:01.880 doing dishes late at night. I had six children in 329 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.039 the house and they were all teens except this one son, 330 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:07.599 and it was the only time I could really clean 331 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.680 and watch TV. I looked out the window because my 332 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.200 dog was whimpering and scratching at the door. That was 333 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.559 weird because he loved being outside. Well. I went to 334 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:21.880 the door and he ran inside, and then I looked 335 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.480 toward the woods and I saw something in the dark, 336 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:28.880 and it was moving and it was big. I slowly 337 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:31.079 closed the door and I locked it, and I ran 338 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:35.440 to my daughter. My husband was working nights then, and 339 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.400 she turned off the lights and we looked out the 340 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:41.880 window and she saw it too. I told my husband, 341 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:46.119 but he told us that we were imagining it. And 342 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.920 then one night, taking out the trash, something happened to him. 343 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:52.960 I don't know what it was, but what I do 344 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:57.759 know is he said that we're moving. Years later, my 345 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.880 son told me that the creature knew where we lived 346 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.880 because it waited for him to come outside, but he 347 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.079 never did. He is a father now, and when I 348 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.359 go to Bigfoot conferences, it is for him and my mother. 349 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:16.720 He tells me, I know you believe me, Mama. Thank you. Well. 350 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:20.160 He's one tough young man, but look into his eyes, 351 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:25.960 and you know the event is very real. I don't 352 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.640 know if you take alien abduction stories, but I'm compelled 353 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.799 to tell my story to you. I think there are 354 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.640 many stories out there, but they don't dare talk about it. Anyway, 355 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:40.240 Here goes mine. Let me start to tell you that 356 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:44.039 I was an RN for thirty five years. I was 357 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.039 an educator and a director. I lived in Florida for 358 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.160 many years and got my nursing education there. Back in 359 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:55.240 my college days, it wasn't uncommon to go on a 360 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.759 date and then go parking on a deserted country road. 361 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.640 Those days, it was just a big kiss fest. After 362 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:05.880 a while, I had to step into the bushes and 363 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:09.839 use the restroom. Eventually he took me home. He kissed 364 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.359 me good night, and I got ready and went to bed. 365 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:16.640 No drama at all so far. I woke up the 366 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.119 next morning when I was getting dressed, and I noticed 367 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.400 a deep wound in my right hip. It was one 368 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.279 and a half inches deep. It had a dark ring 369 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.759 around the entrance. I could put my little finger down 370 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:32.519 in it, almost to my second knuckle. Normally, when you 371 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.119 get a wound like this, it bleeds and it hurts. 372 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:38.440 It usually gets infected. It drains until healed up, and 373 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.920 then it leaves a scar, but not this wound. It 374 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.160 didn't hurt at all, and it didn't bleed, it didn't 375 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:50.279 get it infected, and it never drained. I eventually healed up. 376 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:54.559 It did not leave a scar. I didn't tell anyone 377 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:58.119 for years, except one time I told a lady doctor 378 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.519 about it, and her eyes got really bad and she 379 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:04.079 freaked out a little. She told me that it was impossible. 380 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:10.079 Well impossible or not, it happened. I'm retired now, and 381 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:13.599 throughout the years I've had occasional visions of a white 382 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:17.720 alien face staring down on me while I lay on 383 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:21.519 a stretcher. I was watching one of the alien abduction 384 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.960 TV shows a couple of months ago, and in that episode, 385 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:28.920 this poor guy was being tormented by aliens flying around 386 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:34.200 his property. They brought in a hypnotist to uncover his memories. 387 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:37.920 He reported that he had been abducted at one time 388 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.279 or another. I thought that this is a good idea. 389 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:43.960 I wanted to get to the bottom of what happened 390 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:46.680 to me that night. I had a friend who was 391 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:50.960 a psychologist and she was trained to do hypnosis. I 392 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.480 was a bit scared, but I went through with it anyway. 393 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.880 I was taken back to the scene of that night. 394 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:00.519 I was walking back to the car after spending a 395 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.799 few minutes in the bushes, and suddenly a clear white 396 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:08.000 light came down on me and pulled me up into 397 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:11.960 a spacecraft. When I got into the craft, there were 398 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:16.200 two tall white aliens to greet me. It was small 399 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.160 in there, and to my right there were controls to 400 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.720 the craft. In the back was a white bench with 401 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.279