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<v Speaker 1>We are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how are you? Since you're sweet, beautiful, I am

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<v Speaker 1>very fine. How are you doing? You know? I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up today and was like, I don't think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it. Let me tell you. I was just listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the till end of your monologue and the guy

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<v Speaker 1>was clapping. I was like, yes, we need to have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. Oh, what's an ethnicity again? You know what? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>be called an ep semi today. It's a freaking badge

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<v Speaker 1>of honor, especially by those people. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? You're utterly rubbishing what antisemitism is

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<v Speaker 1>if you reduce it to people, you know, not having

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<v Speaker 1>the right to say we stand against a state that

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<v Speaker 1>commits genocide. Come on now that you use it as

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<v Speaker 1>your weaponize at de semitism against people who say children

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<v Speaker 1>have the right to live.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but the people and the people saying this are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we trying to just kill people in peace, and y'all

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<v Speaker 2>keep talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to take the social media, y'all talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to take the.

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<v Speaker 2>Social media, and we're trying to kill these kids and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the fact that who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say this let me say this, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we've got to the point that talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this makes us laugh at them. That always tells me

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<v Speaker 1>the point I have reached that I am so angry

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<v Speaker 1>that really the only other option is for me to

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<v Speaker 1>laugh or else, I seriously, I will be raging and

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<v Speaker 1>all this what we hear is me raw because what

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<v Speaker 1>the actual hell like, what do you mean? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean to tell me, hey me that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>open this god given mouth of mine and crust the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of you for committing war crafts? Well, let's wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let me play this video for you, because

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<v Speaker 2>since you're talking about you want to get mad, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get mad with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I get mad with you. Where is this dang where's

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<v Speaker 1>this gad dang video? You know what? I gotta transfer it,

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<v Speaker 1>so welcome back to it. What are you up to?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? What are you talking about about? Oh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about I believe you know what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to be to be black in Britain, to be black,

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the nonsense that is no sense from people

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<v Speaker 1>in power. I mean I reacted to Donald Trump's racist

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<v Speaker 1>rant at Iland and Somalians, right, Oh, yeah, that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's nothing new, but you know what it

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<v Speaker 1>triggered me. Though. What it triggered me was me remembering

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<v Speaker 1>all these Americans who told us during the general election

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<v Speaker 1>that please stay out of our politics, Please don't have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion, Please don't say anything about no no no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, Because when you choose a rutting ass racist, rapist,

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacist in chief, as you're freaking president of the

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<v Speaker 1>country saying as the most powerful, the most descent the world,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ending up influencing my country and every other country.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I am going to have a freaking opinion

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm playing a very protectionist about like they're very

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<v Speaker 2>territorial about things like that. Like even down to here

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, like people will be like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>say nothing about my state.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, your state is in the country I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, this is what I'm like, don't say nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>New York if you don't live in New York. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I mean, it may annoy you, but

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<v Speaker 2>New York is like a world capital.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, thank you. I just found the

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<v Speaker 1>whole conversation and the way people want to possess you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can or can't talk about. Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are times and you can challenge people's

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<v Speaker 1>authenticity and standing to apply or something that they either

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<v Speaker 1>clearly have jack or knowledge about or just infusing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in there to be able to cause trouble. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there are always moments for that. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that America has such power that the President

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States calling a black woman as sitting

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<v Speaker 1>US congress member garbage only serves to embolding the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>feed of racists, not just in the United States, but

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<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom, across Europe and all of these so

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<v Speaker 1>called racists, you know. So, yeah, we have to say something,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to be able to respond to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this video for you, Okay, it's gonna piss you off. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Elon Carr, who is the CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>the Israel American Council. He is the former US Anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitism z are that tells you everything you.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to know. And here he is at a Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>conference in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we are living in a time of miracles

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<v Speaker 3>and unprecedented opportunities and the challenge for us here and

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<v Speaker 3>well this I'll end because this is this is key.

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<v Speaker 3>The challenge for us here is to leverage Israel's successes

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<v Speaker 3>into our successes and our victories here because we are

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<v Speaker 3>one people. Israel's weakness is ours and Israel's strength is ours.

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<v Speaker 3>And now that Israel has turned the entire geopolitical situation

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<v Speaker 3>on its head, our job in the diaspora is to

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<v Speaker 3>leverage those wins and win here due to our enemies here,

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<v Speaker 3>what Israel did to its enemies there and on that

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<v Speaker 3>the ice is focused.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea. Thank you do tell enemies here

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<v Speaker 1>what Israel did to enemies I'm sorry. Genocide, starvation, ethnic cleansing,

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<v Speaker 1>shoot in at will Okay, hold on, don't piss you off.

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<v Speaker 2>So while you get your thoughts together, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>remind you all that all of the things that doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Shola Moss has listed. In addition to that is the

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance practices that we have seen getting grow growing stronger

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<v Speaker 2>and stronger. We have seen incredible repression, not only here

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<v Speaker 2>the States, but much more even in.

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<v Speaker 1>The in the United Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw somebody get pulled over and the cop

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<v Speaker 2>told him that he was getting arrested because he.

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<v Speaker 1>Found a watermelon like sticker in his car.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So when you see this and shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>Sabby Sabas who said, wait a minute, was that a threat?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Jewish supremacy is a real thing, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's now where they're like, listen, we that girl, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's not going to be any stopping us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to show a video a little later

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<v Speaker 1>in the show of Dye.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the former dictator who, by the way, he

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<v Speaker 2>was many terrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah he was. He is released, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Caught them, and he talks about it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're starting to see the same way that you were

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<v Speaker 2>just naming the rise of like bold racism by the

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<v Speaker 2>statements made by someone like Donald Trump, we have seen

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<v Speaker 2>also with the rise of both Zionism, which we know

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<v Speaker 2>is also racism.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so freakingly the fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of this is that this gathering is essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>same as when we had when we saw Nazi gatherings

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<v Speaker 2>in Britain and in the US, they were outwardly having

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<v Speaker 2>whole conventions to talk about fascism exactly exactly, and there's.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt in my mind that there are a number

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<v Speaker 1>of questions raised by his performance and his words. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to start asking are these people israeleased or

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans? Because it's not the Israelis, because let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, religions are loyalty is to Israel and know.

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<v Speaker 2>What literally it is like their ethos is I am

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli before I'm anything exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that there will be many people out

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<v Speaker 1>there who are just like me that before October seven,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, Zionism, I can't tell you what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not have. It was not in my dictionary.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have. And before October seventh, twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>you had asked me about Israelise, or if you had

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<v Speaker 1>asked me my thoughts of views about Jews, I had none.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not give my much more than I would

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<v Speaker 1>give a Muslim or a Buddhist. As a Christian, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing good for you. You're a Muslim, good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if none of my dam bits, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>your faith is at the end of the day, to

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<v Speaker 1>be between you and God and me and God. So

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<v Speaker 1>and a story. But it only took me a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months I'm sorry it took me that long. It

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<v Speaker 1>took me that long because I kept seeing the word Zionist, zionism,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, online broh blah. I was like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck is this or is it a movement on ideology?

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<v Speaker 1>And what we are actually seen are the worst on

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<v Speaker 1>the periphery, maybe at the center of it as a

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<v Speaker 1>good meaning, you know what I mean, Only for me

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that it is rotten to the freaking core.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing good about Zionism. It is rotten to

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<v Speaker 1>the core. And what then cinched it for me was

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<v Speaker 1>when that whatever his face is, Elon Levey, the former

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<v Speaker 1>state spokesperson for Israel to the UK, did a video

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<v Speaker 1>trying to explain Zionism as anti colonialism, and I went.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold up colonialism, like they have a Dionism, they had

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<v Speaker 2>a colonial they had a duration colonial colonial chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in fact, what the that sinks it for

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<v Speaker 1>me because I went colonialism, well that I know and

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<v Speaker 1>everything I've seen about Zionism is a very opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>anti colonial. So that's when I went, Okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course I started getting all this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting all this your bad press. I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting all of the threats I was getting all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, the abuse and demands for investigation, sent

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<v Speaker 1>to my sent again because I'm a lawyer, send to

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<v Speaker 1>my regulators, you know, trying to try to destroy my

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<v Speaker 1>reputation and my credibility. And I'm thinking, do you people

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<v Speaker 1>understand that people like us, Amanda, are you and so

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<v Speaker 1>many others? We've had to fight so many wars to

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<v Speaker 1>get to where we are today. God has not brought

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<v Speaker 1>us this far to leave us for the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you to think to have the caucastic zionasity to think

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<v Speaker 1>you can bring your bs and I will be shocked

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<v Speaker 1>for once, who the hell died and made you? God?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, where's my rapper? Let me tie it, where's

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<v Speaker 1>my scarff? Let's go? Why is gright?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Here you are murdering children. I am witnessing children

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<v Speaker 1>being murdered and witnessing civilians being decapitated. But you I well,

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<v Speaker 1>letting my journeymys be because right now I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>any of that British for likeness. Put that to one side.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nigerian should come out because we are ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>We will write. I don't because are you mad?

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<v Speaker 2>Give my attitude for the last two years it has

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<v Speaker 2>been I've watched it, you know. I mean you were

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<v Speaker 2>brought into my zeitgeist because we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>same things, right, and that to me has been a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing just being able to have I mean, I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get credit where its due.

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<v Speaker 1>So the algorithm did his job in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it brought folks together who may not have

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily stumbled upon each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I ask you in Britain right now, yeah, as.

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<v Speaker 2>A as a black brit how does colonialism get talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in Britain in this time that we're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, colonialism is talked about us a good thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because after all, we went and saved you savages from yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't for us white people coming into your

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<v Speaker 1>African hearts, you would have no civilization, you'd have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. But basically history is being rewritten on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, and it's being used to justify even

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<v Speaker 1>what we see today with Zionism. Okay, and uh. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, the same way you find language that

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<v Speaker 1>that that treats Zionists Jewish people as when I say anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that these designer is Jews are oppressed as

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<v Speaker 1>masquerading as victims. They used that same language right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not colonization, not at all. After all, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not what Israel is doing. They gaslight you every

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<v Speaker 1>my history as as an activist. And I'm thinking, do

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<v Speaker 1>that there's so much of what we're saying that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. So it's you know, it's interesting you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>earlier monologue. There's so much that we get ghastly on.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about language, the way they refer to, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Jewish, it's an ethnicity. No, it's not an ethnicity,

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<v Speaker 1>most maybe at no religious ethnicity, right, because you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask Jewish folks and name you ask the word the

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, exactly when I hear or when I see uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you constantly get the Zionist talking points, and

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<v Speaker 1>these zion Is hooking points come to you by white

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<v Speaker 1>zignus Jews. We all know black Jews and brown Juices exist,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know that the help of Zionism are white

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish people. Just as you have with antisigners Jews, you

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<v Speaker 1>find white and designers Jews say Zionism has jackal to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Judaism. Zionism has nothing to do with us

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<v Speaker 1>as please stop referring or conflicting as with Zionism. So here, yeah, now, wait, yes, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>A bill to ban dual citizenship in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>has been introduced in the Senate by who. Senator Bernie Marino,

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican in Ohio, introduced Senate Bill three two eight

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<v Speaker 2>three Exclusive Citizenship Act of twenty twenty five, which would

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<v Speaker 2>ban dual citizenship in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Perception, yeah, would have been the exception bill the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, the bill would require a person with US

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship and that of another country to give up one

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<v Speaker 2>or the other alleging that a US citizen holding citizenship

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere may create conflicts of interest and divided loyalties.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind you, I promise you Israel is not the exception.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I keep telling y'all that we're about

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<v Speaker 2>to have the United States of Israel. They are going

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<v Speaker 2>to make Israel an official part of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Israel is going to take over.

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<v Speaker 1>Just remember I said this. Oh my god, it's asked.

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<v Speaker 2>A US citizen who voluntarily acquires foreign citizenship would have

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<v Speaker 2>to relinquish their US citizenship after the date of enactment.

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<v Speaker 2>Those who have dual citizenship would have to submit a

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<v Speaker 2>written renunciation of foreign citizenship to the government no later

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<v Speaker 2>than one year after the enactment of the act.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who do.

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<v Speaker 2>Not comply will be deemed to have voluntarily relinquished their

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<v Speaker 2>US citizenship. So you you are hearing me now, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to hear me say this now. I will

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<v Speaker 2>do that when it's time, and I will just be Grenadian.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this though. I will say this while

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<v Speaker 1>they try to target none white people, the people. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you really affect American is released real? But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you I'm Shola. I have been trying to screen this

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<v Speaker 1>from the rooftops, and folks are not hearing me. What

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<v Speaker 1>what we are watching? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it's not that we're watching a coming together, We're

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<v Speaker 2>watching a rising together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it has been together.

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<v Speaker 2>We are literally Miss Latilla said it. Thank you, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I've been trying to say. The United

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<v Speaker 2>States is being colonized by Israel, and they keep thinking

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<v Speaker 2>it's the other way around. No, because Israel has been embedded.

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<v Speaker 2>Zionism has been embedded in the fabric of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>of the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>And the UK. Same shit. The UK is already colonized. Sis,

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<v Speaker 1>we are already colonized by Israel. I hope people are

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. We are already colonized. Zionism is so insidious

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<v Speaker 1>in Britain. It permeates every facet of our society. But

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<v Speaker 1>it took October twenty twenty three for someone like me

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<v Speaker 1>to wake the freak up. I was walking in a slumber.

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<v Speaker 1>So many of us were walking in the slumber, not

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<v Speaker 1>realizing what was happening right in front of our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>It took the last two years for me to realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I started seeing people getting imprisoned, a language being

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<v Speaker 1>used to my line and character, you know, like totally

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<v Speaker 1>destroy people's reputation. It has already been done on that record.

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<v Speaker 2>Have y'all heard, there's already been two vocal words that

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<v Speaker 2>have happened here today we heard doctor Sho Lama say

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<v Speaker 2>o Pine and my line. So I just want y'all

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<v Speaker 2>to be really listening. Okay, I just want y'all to

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<v Speaker 2>be really listening.

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<v Speaker 1>We just heard opine and my line. I'm hearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep talking to us please, And I think the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line now is that we need to start

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<v Speaker 1>to weaponize the very language and the same processes that

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<v Speaker 1>they've used they're using against us. We need to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that our lives, liberty, and likelihoods are at risk. People.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a maybe it would happen. It is

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<v Speaker 1>happening now. It is happening right before us. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't even care, they don't care, they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it blatantly. This is a problem they You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I said earlier about the language being used. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about it everything we fought for. I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 1>how they refer to antisemitism as racism. You said earlier

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<v Speaker 1>about how toudaism is not ethnicity. And when I tell

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<v Speaker 1>people and Semitism is not racism, they're like I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>use the brain God gave you. Let let's process. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>process this antisemiticim is an expression of hate in its

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<v Speaker 1>own right. In its own right, it is equally as

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<v Speaker 1>heinous as racism. It is not the same thing. Who

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<v Speaker 1>exists with racism sects with racism, but it is not

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing because if we accept that Jews are

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<v Speaker 1>not a race, They're not a race. They will never

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<v Speaker 1>have a race. I don't care what Hitler's said and

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<v Speaker 1>how we try to use that against them, when when

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<v Speaker 1>in God's world do what Hitler have to say about

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<v Speaker 1>Jews now become a reference point to prove something? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? You people? Not to you

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<v Speaker 1>a man that those people talking about me, you have

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<v Speaker 1>not a race. So you have white Jews, you have

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<v Speaker 1>black Judes, you have brown Juice. Now wein this no

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<v Speaker 1>religious ethnicity. Let's just say, right, white Jews can and

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<v Speaker 1>have been racist from black and brown Jews. That's because

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<v Speaker 1>the sys of white supremacy is very separate from everything

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<v Speaker 1>else that is going on. So they can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Black and brown Jews can't be racist to white Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work that way. So when you now claim

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<v Speaker 1>that anti Semitism is racism, what you're actually doing is

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<v Speaker 1>denying a real injustice, of racial injustice that is born

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<v Speaker 1>by those who genuinely experience it. And when you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>when you start called that semits and racism, you know

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<v Speaker 1>who benefits from that? White people? Because in what world

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<v Speaker 1>are white people experiencing racism? How? I mean does anti

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<v Speaker 1>white prejudice exist? Absolutely, that's racist. This morning they called

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<v Speaker 1>me that all the time, am and season California. You

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<v Speaker 1>are at five thirty, you know, and sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go. It's some people are just willfully ignorant. And

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<v Speaker 1>Zionists use this. They use this to say, well, now

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<v Speaker 1>you're being racist to me. And I'm like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism is not racism and seven sim is antisemitism in

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<v Speaker 1>its own right. And if you think about it, when

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<v Speaker 1>I say you've got the white Jewish person, black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown Jewish people, when they talk about Semitism, have you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed a manner that they're really only talking about white Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody talking about the antisemitism and racism that black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown Jews experience so black and brown Jewish people are

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing two intersecting inequalities and racial injustices, and people happy

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<v Speaker 1>caucastic audacity. They yonasity to the homophobia homophobias. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>here is that they use racism as a catch off

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<v Speaker 1>phrase for everything. So as far as I'm concer, and

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<v Speaker 1>all you're doing is impound the very people who already

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<v Speaker 1>oppress oppress black and brown people. So white Jewish people,

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown Jewish people who will all experience and Semitism,

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<v Speaker 1>but the only one whose pain of Semitism is ever

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged or addressed a white Jewish people. White Jewish people

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<v Speaker 1>do not experience freaking racism. Black and brown Jewish people do.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you come to a country like the UK

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<v Speaker 1>in Britain and everything you do is that immediately it's

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<v Speaker 1>immediately couch. And anytime you speak out against science, same

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<v Speaker 1>when you speak out against as well, it's immediately couch.

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<v Speaker 1>As racism, you have to ask yourself why, because these

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<v Speaker 1>white people are not they're not dumb. They understand the

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<v Speaker 1>struggle that black and brown people, especially black people black

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<v Speaker 1>people have endured in racism, and what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is co opt that struggle, not experience the struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>but co opt it. So they come. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>someone like me says, hell to the freak, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>against antisemitism. I will use my voice and every fiber

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<v Speaker 1>of my being to fight and sim because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be Jewish to do so. But hell, no,

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to sit here and say, oh and

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<v Speaker 1>seman sim is racism? It's not. I can see that

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<v Speaker 1>it is not the same thing applies to Islamophobia. I

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<v Speaker 1>might not just think about it. I know some people,

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<v Speaker 1>many people that I respect, are like, they say, Islamophobia

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<v Speaker 1>is racism. I'm like, no, it's not. Islamophobia is its

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<v Speaker 1>own heinous expression of hate. It is you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>is as heinous as racism. It coexists with racism, it

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<v Speaker 1>intersects with racism. But they're not the same freaking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>White Muslims as an example, white black, and brown Muslims

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<v Speaker 1>will all experience is Slamophobia, but white Muslims do not

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<v Speaker 1>experience racism. Black and brown Muslims experience Islamophobia and racism. People,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm speaking English, not Latin, not Swaikili, now what

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<v Speaker 1>and tells you they are two different?

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<v Speaker 2>But we did Okay, okay, So now what right? Because

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<v Speaker 2>because my thing is is we're we're at an inflection point,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Shola, where the ignorance is so deeply outweighed by

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<v Speaker 2>the power and so even the so the people who

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be one thing if we had an informed populist

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<v Speaker 2>that simply just felt powerless.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have an ignorant populist exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that also feels powerless, like you know, like someone

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<v Speaker 2>asked the question, Adrian asked the question, are the countries

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<v Speaker 2>so used to being colonized that we just don't fight back?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. This

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we get it wrong. America has maybe yes,

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<v Speaker 1>was once upon a time colonized by Britain, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know that race or past is from a colonizer, right Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll let you want to talk about the Romans.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's just talk the last how many hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>These countries are not used to being colonized. They are

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<v Speaker 1>the colonizers. So what is happening here is not colonization

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<v Speaker 1>as we understand it. The way you went to Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>South America.

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<v Speaker 2>And colonization two point oh, thank you colonizer, colonizing the colonizer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's colonizer and colonizer violence. This is literally sets of

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<v Speaker 1>people white supremacy in conjunction with Jewish supremacy working together. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the world, that is it. That is what is happening here,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you look across Europe, look across Europe, Germany,

426
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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, you know, strong countries and strong economies

427
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<v Speaker 1>here that support Israel right and support the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of them are just you know, whatever Trump says,

429
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<v Speaker 1>whatever America says. You know, we cawtow, we caltaw. These

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<v Speaker 1>country trees that are meant to be strong in their

431
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<v Speaker 1>own right, they're all shipping like chicken liver cowards. Not

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<v Speaker 1>on single a single one of them is saying anything

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<v Speaker 1>because why because they're part of the system. So the

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<v Speaker 1>people being colonized or they attempting to colonize, are people

435
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<v Speaker 1>like us, black, brown, white people who are against genocide,

436
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>who are against colonization, who are against Zionists, who are

437
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>against white supremacy, who are against Jewish supremacy, who are

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<v Speaker 1>against everything that we know would make our world rotten.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the people they're trying to colonize. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to normalize the very things that our ancestors fought against,

441
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<v Speaker 1>be then black ancestors, white brown assess the kind of

442
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<v Speaker 1>thing that we are still fighting today. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it legal, legitimate, They want to they want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be clared. Just like you said about Israel. Israel

445
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<v Speaker 1>is part and parcel of the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>But like me, I'm sure millions of people like me

447
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<v Speaker 1>are only just realizing, Oh my god, we did not

448
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<v Speaker 1>know that before too, about twenty twenty three. I did

449
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<v Speaker 1>not know before to about twenty twenty three that my country,

450
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<v Speaker 1>the UK, is being colonized by Israel. I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Israel had my politicians, people that we thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were democratically elected in their freaking pockets. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About, that they want to applause you real quick because

455
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<v Speaker 2>something annoyed me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, you don't mind stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So someone here said, ableism never gets enough time in

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<v Speaker 2>these conversations. First of all, the conversation isn't even an

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<v Speaker 2>hour long. We haven't even been talking for an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's start there. Second of all, y'all be applying

461
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<v Speaker 2>ableism to everything under the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Third of all, let me just say this, what doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Shola is literally iminating, illuminating and enumerating for you is

465
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<v Speaker 2>the reality of how new this revelation is. So solutions

466
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<v Speaker 2>are always going to be the very.

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<v Speaker 1>Process bound in how they are applied. So if we're

468
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<v Speaker 1>just now getting illuminated to.

469
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<v Speaker 2>The reality of the issue, right I literally just sat

470
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<v Speaker 2>here and pulled up this and pointed it to you,

471
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<v Speaker 2>and now we're talking about, well, it's ableism.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you now, people aren't.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Going to be able to leave this country for many

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<v Speaker 2>reasons besides simply you know, disabled, because that is a

475
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<v Speaker 2>very real reason, right Shola.

476
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<v Speaker 1>This is a nation of disability. Beyond the physical.

477
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<v Speaker 2>The disability is also emotional, and it is also mental

478
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<v Speaker 2>because the psychological operations that have been happening on our

479
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>internal wiring have been so consistent and immense that there

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<v Speaker 2>will be studies if the earth lasts long enough for

481
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<v Speaker 2>people to look back, they will literally come back and say,

482
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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, this entire people had been mentally brainwashed, yep,

483
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<v Speaker 2>and and could render us physically unable like we are

484
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<v Speaker 2>as a people not operating at our capability because of

485
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<v Speaker 2>the efforts that have been done.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to point out that, yes, we.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Do need to make time to have conversations around the disabled.

488
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<v Speaker 2>We do need to make time to have conversations around

489
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<v Speaker 2>folks who are not economically viable to lead. However, however,

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<v Speaker 2>we are right now simply at the inflection point of

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<v Speaker 2>even just acknowledging what the is the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and how quite frankly, we are all being empowered,

493
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.759
<v Speaker 1>so diabled and the disabled, right, we are all being disempowered.

494
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<v Speaker 1>If somebody can come and throw you into prison for

495
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<v Speaker 1>exercising your rights to express disgust and contempt for evil,

496
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<v Speaker 1>that should tell you that, whether you're able or disabled,

497
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<v Speaker 1>it's a freaking problem. It's gonna affect you economically, It's

498
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<v Speaker 1>going to affect you, you know, reputationally, it's going to

499
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<v Speaker 1>affect your standing in society. So we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where even our language and how we

501
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 1>present ourselves is very clear to the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Because but how like, okay, real and this is not

503
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<v Speaker 2>this is not like Devil's advocate, This is a genuine question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, why does that matter? What do you what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? What what teeth does it have?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm y'all, I'm literally having an anxiet attack, as idy attack.

507
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm literally having an anxiety attack. Like I'm so overwhelmed

508
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<v Speaker 2>in this moment, doctor Sola, and I forgot my medication.

509
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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell you this. The teeth it has. Okay,

510
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<v Speaker 1>I think if you begin, imagine yourself being held at gunpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>Just okay, Oh, you just said you have an anxiety Suitely,

512
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<v Speaker 1>I don't wanted to go higher just watching. Just imagine

513
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<v Speaker 1>that you are in a position physically where it goes

514
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<v Speaker 1>is being pointed at your at your head, and there's

515
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<v Speaker 1>a timer. There is a there's always a timer. That

516
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 1>is where we are, that we are at a trigger point.

517
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<v Speaker 1>We have all been brought to this point, the blatant

518
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 1>use of power against us. It has brought us to

519
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<v Speaker 1>this point that there is a verbal, metaphorical and physical

520
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>gun being pointed at our lives, livelihoods, and liberties right now.

521
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And it is not just national, it is global. It

522
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<v Speaker 1>is not just macro level, it is micro level. And

523
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if you can't thinkin to comprehend how serious that is

524
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<v Speaker 1>that even you when I say you're not you are

525
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>man now. But those those of you who like to oh,

526
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<v Speaker 1>you know there are other people fight in this battle.

527
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Amandad, doctor Shola, you know, you know all

528
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>these people they're doing it. I don't need to do anything.

529
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<v Speaker 1>You're wrong. You need to speak up. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>start to form a stance. You need to form a

531
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<v Speaker 1>stance that makes it clear who you are and that

532
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<v Speaker 1>you are not purchasable, that you as a human being,

533
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you count and you matter. And if you're only caring people,

534
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I can't say this loud enough. I swear if you're

535
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<v Speaker 1>only caring and thinking, well, you know that happens to Palestinians.

536
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 1>So that's happened to Muslims. I'm not a Palestinian. I'm

537
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<v Speaker 1>not a Muslim and Christian. It will shock you. It

538
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>will shock you because let me tell you this right now,

539
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the people dying in Palestine, be murdered in Palestine are

540
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Muslims and Christians. They're black and white and brown. And

541
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the people committing all of these war crimes don't give

542
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<v Speaker 1>a rat sauce because they're working to a different standard.

543
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 1>So people, I need you to start to wake up

544
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 1>and understand the game that is being played. Don't let

545
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it be too late. And it is okay to be scared.

546
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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared too, but I'm more pissed off that I'm scared.

547
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<v Speaker 1>It is okay to question, how are we going to

548
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<v Speaker 1>do this? The answer is not to do anything. The

549
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>answer is to educate yourself. The answer is to align

550
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 1>with other allies, and maybe, maybe, just maybe, the answer

551
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>will come to you. But what we cannot afford to

552
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<v Speaker 1>do is, for instance, that bill is about to be passed,

553
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>so many millions of Americans would not even know about it,

554
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>even if it's posted on ABC CNN. Some of you

555
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>will not be paying attention. And if people are not

556
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>paying attention, you know what's gonna happen. It will get passed,

557
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>and they will use it primarily against people like us.

558
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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what they will use it against. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just talking about foreigners like me. I'm talking about

560
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<v Speaker 1>American born people, or Americans who naturalize, or Americans who

561
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<v Speaker 1>who have the right by descent to be citizens of

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<v Speaker 1>other countries. I mean, you hear Donald Trump talking about

563
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<v Speaker 1>golf or whatever in Scotland. Yes, right, that's because by

564
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>descent he's Scottish. You hear Joe Biden go to Ireland

565
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah, all of these things. When it

566
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<v Speaker 1>comes to white people, it's always a totally different standard

567
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<v Speaker 1>and the people you expect this it's built to apply

568
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<v Speaker 1>to what like zion Is Jews and the Alliance Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>You will find there will be a coup out, there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be an exception, there'll be a way to work it

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<v Speaker 1>out that it's acta because just like Amanda.

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<v Speaker 2>Says, it's not, it's they're not gonna be that man.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to listen to what he said again.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we are living in a time of miracles

575
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 3>and unprecedented opportunities. And the challenge for us here and well,

576
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<v Speaker 3>this will end because this is this is key. The

577
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 3>challenge for us here is to leverage Israel's successes into

578
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<v Speaker 3>our successes, and our victory is here because we are

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<v Speaker 3>one people.

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<v Speaker 1>That part exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They are literally going to create a fusion. Yeah, what

582
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<v Speaker 2>ideas real is officially the United States as a colony

583
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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East, and not a colony anymore. It

584
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<v Speaker 2>will be anofficial country like State of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, Amanda, you may not be wrong at all,

586
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's for people. I'm very wrong, and

587
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>that's what's so annoying. The ship that I be right

588
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:32.199
<v Speaker 1>about is the worst shit. And I think what is

589
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 1>equally annoying is that people cannot read the signs. I

590
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's one thing not to be cognizant and not

591
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 1>to be aware of history and how it repeats itself.

592
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 1>But when you see something like this happening, then you

593
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 1>are duty bound to educate yourself. You're duty bound to

594
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<v Speaker 1>ask questions and to get the right answers. And when

595
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you've been giving so much information, pray for wisdom and

596
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>discernment so you know right from wrong. But when we

597
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.159
<v Speaker 1>end up doing so wrong, is that we get so

598
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, tied up in our own pain, in our

599
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>own struggle, in our own personal losses, that it makes

600
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it difficult for people to see out because you don't

601
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>understand that they're weaponizing your pain and you'll struggle to

602
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 1>keep you down. That's what they're doing. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when people see people like you, I might not

604
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 1>saying myself, and they think, oh, look at them. They

605
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>sound very strong, very confident, But you don't see us

606
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 1>when we're like, oh my god, what do I do now?

607
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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the floor. I am literally on the floor

608
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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel room right now. You know that we

609
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<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because I only allow myself twenty four hours of panic.

611
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I started doing that in two thousand and five. Yeah,

612
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<v Speaker 2>got twenty four hours of panic.

613
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 1>And whatever you do.

614
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>In that twenty four hours, cry, run, go punch something,

615
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>eat ice cream, retail therapy, and then send it back.

616
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<v Speaker 2>But you get twenty four hours and then you got

617
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<v Speaker 2>to figure it the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is so important. That is so important,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why, for instance, when we said, okay,

620
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<v Speaker 1>let's have a conversation about what it is to be black,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance in Britain, what does that mean? What does

622
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<v Speaker 1>it mean to be a marginalized you know, part of

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<v Speaker 1>a marginalized group in a country that you belong to.

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<v Speaker 1>How if people don't understand this is this is what

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. This is exactly what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to end up asking ourselves what is it

627
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>like to be you? No longer a boy? Whether you're black, brown,

628
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<v Speaker 1>or white, you'll be defined by something else, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>biness or antisionist, whether you're genocide or anti genocide, whether

630
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<v Speaker 1>you're pro colonization of We will all be defined by

631
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>something else, but the root of it will be the same,

632
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>because you know when when you when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>reach out, when you reach down. I thought about the

634
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<v Speaker 1>question what is it like to be black in Britain?

635
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 1>And I thought to myself. To be black in Britain

636
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>is to be British and told you're not. To be

637
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<v Speaker 1>black in Britain is to be rooted in your heritage

638
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and told that what shapes the sum of you would

639
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 1>be nothing without white people. To be black in Britain

640
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>is to have the white need of white supremacy on

641
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>your black necks, and talk by the governments who are

642
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>meant to serve and protect you that Britain is not

643
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>institutionally and systemically racist. To be black in Britain is

644
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to have your history, your presence and contributions in Britain,

645
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 1>both president and historical, to be denied, questioned, or minimized.

646
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>To be black in Britain, ladies, ladies and gentlemen is

647
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to be denied your lived experiences and having to justify

648
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<v Speaker 1>while you also belong. To be black in Britain is

649
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to have your black identity constantly maligned, misrepresented, marginalized, commoditized,

650
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and criminalized. To be black in Britain is to suffer

651
00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>the violence of white supremacy, both visibly and invisibly, verbal

652
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>and physical, and then go completely ignored in plain view.

653
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>To be black in Britain is to fight so hard

654
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<v Speaker 1>for economic, racial, cultural and social justice only for the

655
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<v Speaker 1>people to benefit most from it, from every step of progress,

656
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to be white. And if we are not careful, we

657
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>are getting to a stage now where it is not

658
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<v Speaker 1>just as I said, to be black, or to be brown,

659
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>or to be Muslim, or even to be Jewish. We're

660
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<v Speaker 1>getting to a point where this you know inflection you're

661
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<v Speaker 1>talking about, Amanda, it's taking us a whole new level

662
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<v Speaker 1>of evil. It's going to be it's going to be

663
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<v Speaker 1>the marriage between supremacy, fascism, Nazism, and all of these

664
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<v Speaker 1>other things that people fought so hard. Yes, no longer exists.

665
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<v Speaker 1>And when that that is already happening. Quite frankly, it

666
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 1>is already happening because it's been legitimate in our houses

667
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of Parliament. We have a political prostitute for your Prime Minister,

668
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Kirs Starmer, who who is a freaking Zionist. He just

669
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 1>jumps from one place.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I was gonna say you know what it is.

671
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<v Speaker 2>He's not even a Zionist. He's an opportunist.

672
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<v Speaker 1>So he'll do what he if he needs to be

673
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<v Speaker 1>a Zionist today. Fine, But the reason why he will

674
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 1>always be a Zionist, Amanda, is because it's not just

675
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>because of opportunity, but because that is where his political

676
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>ambition can grow. That's what I'm saying. That's an opportunitist.

677
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not just opportunity. I need to understand. He also

678
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 1>has Jewish roots. His wife is Jewish. I hate talking

679
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 1>about spouses because I don't see the rest.

680
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<v Speaker 2>Now when I say opportunist, opportunists in my definition is

681
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<v Speaker 2>someone who will attach themselves to anything that gives them

682
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<v Speaker 2>a cent.

683
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I'm saying that he believes in this thing.

684
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:01.199
<v Speaker 1>This is a good person. He believes Anxietism. Because whether

685
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you're weaponizing Zionism for political opportunity or wealth is not

686
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that different from you going, oh well it doesn't affect

687
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>me badly, or I'm going to be part. I'm going

688
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 1>to be part of this group of people. And that

689
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 1>is where we also suffer as black people in these

690
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in this scenarios, because then they have totalized black people

691
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 1>who justify the evil that is being enforced and imposed

692
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>on other black and brown people. Then we get tokenized

693
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen Christians. You know, as much as I

694
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hold Zionus Jews in contempt, I hold Zenus Christians in

695
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.119
<v Speaker 1>deeper contempt. As a Christian, I consider them to be

696
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>far worse and evil, quite frankly, because you're literally taking

697
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bible, taking Jesus Christ, taking God, and weaponizing the

698
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>very thing that's meant to bring salvation. You're weaponizing it

699
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>as a Russian and you're using all of these dumb

700
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>ass willful ignorance, ideology or because you know it's called this.

701
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. When they named the Puzzle

702
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 1>of Lands that was a portion to Zionus, When they

703
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>named it Israel, they knew what they were doing.

704
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Of course, they knew exactly what they were incredible marketers

705
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>and if you call it.

706
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Anything else, but these Zionist Jews knew because there are

707
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>more Zionist Christians that they are Zionist Jews, right, they

708
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>knew they needed a power of Zionis Christians. And you

709
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>know Zionist Christians are they're they're rooted in white supremacy,

710
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the black and brown ones are racial gatekeeping. Uh you know,

711
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 1>enagblers of white supremacy. White nationalist Christianity is rooted in

712
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>white supremacy, and it's that white supremacy and white nationally

713
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Christianity that was that was empowered, that was used to

714
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>call us from continent to continent, from country to country.

715
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 1>So as far as I see it, and I've said it,

716
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll say it again, I think zis Christians are the

717
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 1>absolute freaking worst. And that's why as a Christian and

718
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful to God. I really am grateful to God.

719
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>It is so important to have discernment. It's so important

720
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>to not be afraid to question things because you know

721
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 1>when they come with this desigonist talking points like God

722
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 1>gave us this land, and I'm like, you know, I've

723
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>read the Bible back to back quite a number of

724
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 1>times in my life. I do not claim to be

725
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>able to make quotations like some people. I can't claim that,

726
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but I have enough in my head to know, Okay,

727
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>let's go with God gave you the land by same

728
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 1>God that kicked you off the land because you pissed

729
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>him off. And we all know why you pissed them off,

730
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and why keep you because you want to use the

731
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Bible to claim ownership and legitimacy, when the same Bible

732
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 1>says you pissed them off so much, he kicks you off.

733
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<v Speaker 1>And then you get more more, you know, more points

734
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<v Speaker 1>like well, this is Israel, and the Bible says that

735
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>anybody who goes against Israel, and that's not what the

736
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Bible says. The Bible says nothing of the sort. And

737
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>then they want to bring up Jesus. Jesus was a Jew.

738
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>We know that. What's your point? And you know, if

739
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 1>you don't love Jesus, if you don't love Israel Jewish state,

740
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 1>then you don't love Jesus because Jesus was a Jew.

741
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And I go, let me ask you, ques, let me

742
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 1>ask you a question. Go and read the New Testament

743
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>from back to back and show me where Jesus talked

744
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>about Israel, talked about the return of the Kingdom of Israel.

745
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Talk to he did not, He could not give a

746
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>rats ask about Israel, Kingdom of Israel, Kingdom of Judah,

747
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.039
<v Speaker 1>if that was none of his damn business. All he

748
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about was the Kingdom of Heaven.

749
00:45:54.400 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 2>It's also not ain't historical text period, it's not a

750
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>magna carta. It's not a declaration of independence. It has

751
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 2>been chopped up and screwed like Houston hip Hosh.

752
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes I say, but I would love to make

753
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the time one day. I would love to make the

754
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 1>time one day to read all the scripts that did

755
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 1>not make it into the modern day Bible, read tran

756
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>tre will make the time to read the Torah one day.

757
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know when, because I am sick and tired

758
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 1>of people bringing things, you know, passages out of the

759
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Koran or out of the Torah to justify

760
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 1>or delegitimize, and I go and anything all different times.

761
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And the New Testament has mad stuff from Paul and

762
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.360
<v Speaker 1>youre where like you alive, and even the Old Testament.

763
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've got writings in my Bible right, I

764
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 1>was reading over acts and I've got things in red

765
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>where I'm literally pissed off at por like, what do

766
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you mean I'm writing it there?

767
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Because you could almost sell this Pauls who wrote revelations,

768
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 2>not revelations, Pauls who wrote at Yes, he was like

769
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 2>by himself, these were all just visions that he had

770
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, yo, let me write this down

771
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 2>because I'm feeling some type of way that's a substack.

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00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But also also you can also see where Paul's

773
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>opinions what is meant to be God's word? Because he

774
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, women, basically saying women should be seen

775
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>on her. I'm like, if women should be seen on her,

776
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>why is that God made women judges? What is that

777
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 1>God in the Old Testament make women judges and get

778
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:53.159
<v Speaker 1>women to my red pin out? What do you mean?

779
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Like Paul was standing in front of him, I mean

780
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>he and I will be having a time of argument

781
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>because I okay, but I've resolved, you know, as a Christian,

782
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:06.079
<v Speaker 1>And I said this to myself years ago that they

783
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 1>go to be things I don't have answers to. And

784
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure God is way too busy, especially because I

785
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>just saw him in my other things. That meaning me

786
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 1>time on that when I finally meet my father in heaven,

787
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>we will have a conversation, because.

788
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you the conversation is going to be.

789
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Then people were speaking for me. That wasn't they. That

790
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was they was just talking for me. There was a

791
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 2>gamer operator they they was taking messages.

792
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 1>You know what, you know what, you know what a lot.

793
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Of the Bible is a Bible is how when you

794
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>leave a voice note and then you have to tell

795
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 2>the person, yo, I did voice text. So the translation

796
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 2>may be off, like that's really what it be as

797
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 2>God sometimes sometimes, which is why, Which is why when

798
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I talk to folks and they interpreted it. You know,

799
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.519
<v Speaker 2>when you read it, you read a text or wherever

800
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 2>you at. So Moses read the text where he was

801
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.039
<v Speaker 2>on the mountain. He was like this one, this one

802
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>says to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Moses would have read that the

804
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<v Speaker 1>same way where he not on the mountain. I know,

805
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I know. But this is why maturity. I want to

806
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>say maturity, I don't mean age, maturity in growth as

807
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a human, in your relationship matters for for for the

808
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>longest time. I'm grateful to God for this. At some

809
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.880
<v Speaker 1>point in my journey in life, I began to understand

810
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 1>the difference between Christianity as a as a religion and

811
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Christianity as a relationship with God. So I don't do religion.

812
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I do not have time for religion because for me,

813
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<v Speaker 1>religion is burdensome. My spirit is you can't You're just

814
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.039
<v Speaker 1>your brain. You're just smart.

815
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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

816
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about being smart.

817
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:51.119
<v Speaker 2>What I do know because because you know that it's

818
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<v Speaker 2>being used to manipulate you, so you can't your brain

819
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:54.639
<v Speaker 2>won't even let you be that.

820
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So you're like, no, I think this is where I

821
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<v Speaker 1>think my God comes in because He has fashioned me

822
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<v Speaker 1>differently so that my very spirit goes that doesn't let

823
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<v Speaker 1>me tell let me, let me explain some to you

824
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>when I go to church. When I'm in church and

825
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<v Speaker 1>the pastor is preaching, and Peter said, and John said,

826
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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus said. Automatically, in my mind, I'm going, all right,

827
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<v Speaker 1>but what's that going to do with me? Explain it

828
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<v Speaker 1>to my my immediately because I already know what Jesus said,

829
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<v Speaker 1>what post I understand. I can read the Bible. What

830
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.559
<v Speaker 1>I need is to break you down in a way

831
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<v Speaker 1>that can help me live my life, not just get

832
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<v Speaker 1>from point A to point B, not just survive, but

833
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<v Speaker 1>to thrive. And to me, that is where the essence

834
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and authenticity of the Bible comes in. Where you are

835
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>learning and you're growing. One day you learn something from

836
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>a particular text, and the next day you learn a

837
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>different thing from the same particular text. That for me

838
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>is growth with God. And to me, that is where

839
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, God, thank you. But now that I understand

840
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the difference between religion as you know, as man made

841
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and relationship with you with God, please let me help

842
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>me stick with you, I'm gonna fall into trap off,

843
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, religiosity.

844
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Because so this brings us back to the question I

845
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 2>asked you about language, because what you're really describing is

846
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:19.639
<v Speaker 2>how the spirit communicated through language speaks to your spirit, right, Yes,

847
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And I can say that I've experienced that, not from

848
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 2>the Bible, but through other texts. I've experienced that through

849
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics of Bob Marley. I've experienced that through The

850
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Alchemist by Paulo Celo, like I've experienced that through Parable

851
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.119
<v Speaker 2>of the Sour. So it's it's and you know, I've

852
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>been talking a lot lately about how like there is

853
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>something unique about humans and the writing. It's not just communicating,

854
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:48.559
<v Speaker 2>it's the writing. There is no other animal that writes, right,

855
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 2>And we often talk about, Oh, our uniqueness as humans

856
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.000
<v Speaker 2>is in civilization. No, it's not like other animals have civilizations.

857
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>They have ways that they exist that are civilized. So

858
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 2>it's the writing and what you're saying about our language

859
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and how we are referring to ourselves as having power.

860
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to piggyback on that and say it can't

861
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 2>simply just be in our language verbally, but we have

862
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>to be writing on walls, in books, online everywhere, like

863
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 2>we have to be making physical record of our existence

864
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 2>in our own words.

865
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>But we also, Amanda, if I can add to that,

866
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we need to be birthing. Birthing. And when I say birthing,

867
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't just mean, you know, pushing a child out

868
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 1>of your you know, Panani, That's not what I'm just

869
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about. I'm talking about you birth in that dream,

870
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 1>You birth in that vision, that vision that can have

871
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>impact on one person, ten people, one thousand, ten thousand,

872
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand, a million. And it is through that

873
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that people will get They get that inspiration and aspiration

874
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because something will trigger something in them that speaks to

875
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>their spirit about the kind of change and the kind

876
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of contribution they can make. To me, it's amazing how

877
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on social media I come across people I have never

878
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 1>met in my entire life by connect with them in

879
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a way that I'm not connected with those that I

880
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>see every day. That's something or am I connect with

881
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a language or text or word of wisdom somebody and

882
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I see it as wisdom. I go, wow, where have

883
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.039
<v Speaker 1>you been all my life? I mean I'm literally saying

884
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 1>this to somebody else there. It could be a man

885
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>or woman. I don't care, like you know all my life.

886
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is why I said, Look, we

887
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>are duty about to educate ourselves, and education does not

888
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>necessarily mean you need to read up on everything. Some

889
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 1>of us are not great. We read it not because

890
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>you can't rery, but because you find it boring. Don't read, watch, listen,

891
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 1>use audio engaging conversation, but do not do not do

892
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself and the next generation in disservice by not educating

893
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself and by not asking questions. I am going to say, though,

894
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 1>do you need to read? Oh? You know it's boring.

895
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Even if it's boring, that's why I wrote what with

896
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the answers to say. The way it's written is that

897
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you can read small chunks, yes, and get your But

898
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I also want it because lack of literacy is a tool.

899
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I understand, but we also have to recognize. So I'll

900
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 1>give you an example. My husband can watch anything from

901
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.000
<v Speaker 1>ag toc. You give him a book, he reads. It's

902
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 1>not like you can read, but he finds he's not

903
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>as intrereeding as I am. Oh.

904
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that he has to be into it,

905
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 2>saying it needs to be a part of the practice.

906
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I understand that. But we also have to

907
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>make rumor for those who may not be that way

908
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 1>incline and find ways to turn that writing into other

909
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.840
<v Speaker 1>mediums that people can't digest. That's what I'm saying. And

910
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that we are now at the point, especially

911
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.519
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, that we recognize that technology it

912
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 1>is giving us all of these options. I see now,

913
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>for instance, sometimes on my Instagram feed, I see animation

914
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>being used to tell stories. I think that is brilliant

915
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:13.880
<v Speaker 1>because there'll be people who won't sit down and read

916
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>about man Sa Musa, the Riches you know, black Man

917
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.800
<v Speaker 1>on God's Earth, Richer and elon Mask, but they'll be

918
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.519
<v Speaker 1>able to learn about him by watching or audible to listen.

919
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Because everybody has different things. And you know, the reality

920
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.679
<v Speaker 1>as well, Amanda, is that the way I was as

921
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a child, it's not who I who I am as

922
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 1>an adult. As much as I would like to go

923
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to the things I used to do as a child,

924
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 1>somehow I would listen. I would not drop a book

925
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 1>until I finished it. It doesn't matter how late it

926
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 1>is into the night. I can't afford because I don't

927
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>have the time. I don't have the time as a mom.

928
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I'dn't have a time as a professional. I'd have a

929
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.719
<v Speaker 1>time as an act. I just now need to be

930
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 1>able to There's so many parts of my life that's

931
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>taking different chants that you have to make the time

932
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 1>to do some things. So how can I How can

933
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I run and walk at the same time without losing

934
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the beat, without trying to be a superwoman, because Heaven

935
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>knows I am not a super I'm not a superwoman.

936
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:24.800
<v Speaker 1>And girl that you can let you go like you girless.

937
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Money you Oh, I would.

938
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's so important for us to understand our strengths,

939
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>our weaknesses, make room to improve ourselves as much as

940
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>where we need to fight the common enemy. And also

941
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:54.039
<v Speaker 1>not be afraid, not be afraid to be afraid, not

942
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 1>be afraid to be anxious, but do like you said, Amanda,

943
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.760
<v Speaker 1>put a timer on that fear and then anxiety. It's true.

944
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I saw with someone in here say that

945
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>ADHD makes it hard to read Listen, I can only

946
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 2>read three pages at a time.

947
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not. I didn't say it's easy the

948
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 1>whole book. Yeah, yeah, I didn't say it's easy.

949
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I read three pages and I'm like, WHOA, Well, gotta

950
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 2>go do something.

951
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Now exactly exactly.

952
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that, you know, even if it's an

953
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:27.119
<v Speaker 2>article or something like, it becomes an exercise that y'all

954
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>have to practice because we're so out of practice. And

955
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 2>part of our ADHD and our autism is also exacerbated

956
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 2>by the fact that we really don't take in information

957
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:42.079
<v Speaker 2>in that way anymore, like you know, like we we

958
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.199
<v Speaker 2>actually our anxiety gets triggered by having to focus because

959
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.320
<v Speaker 2>we don't even like our chemicals are are shifted in

960
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>how we yep entertain how we engage with things. But

961
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I did have I did have a question. Someone asked

962
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:00.079
<v Speaker 2>a question before we go, because I do have to

963
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>go to Baltimore. Someone said, what, oh, I guess I

964
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't start well, basically, someone asked like, well, what are

965
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 2>your suggestions for people who can't leave the country, And

966
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 2>whether you're in England or the US, I'm pretty sure

967
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>it's the same, but I'm curious your thoughts.

968
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, So when you say you can't leave the

969
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>country almost suggests that you want to.

970
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, well, yeah, like how I was like, you know,

971
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I really believe that we are reaching an inflection point

972
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 2>and if you are anti Zionists, it will become criminal

973
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 2>for you to exist here, and it will become incredibly

974
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.800
<v Speaker 2>dangerous for you to exist here. And if you are

975
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:49.599
<v Speaker 2>not able to immigrate, to immigrate somewhere else, then what

976
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 2>do you do?

977
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I think there's two things here. There are some

978
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:58.159
<v Speaker 1>countries that you can get citizenship, you know from I

979
00:58:58.159 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 1>think they are ways to it. I don't know. Yah,

980
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I've heard and people become citizens money money states. No

981
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.519
<v Speaker 1>one has money exactly. Okay, So my thing would be this,

982
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>if we're perfectly honest, my thing would be this, unless

983
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 1>you choose to go work and live somewhere and get

984
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>a working visas, or you can just be out of

985
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 1>the country. The reality is this that we cannot afford

986
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to leave our countries in the hands of this people,

987
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:27.079
<v Speaker 1>because then nothing will change. I'm not asking you to

988
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice your life or I am saying that. I think

989
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 1>if you're staying and you are there, you have to

990
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>prepared for some of the worst things. I don't want

991
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you to lose your life. I think that now is

992
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the time for you to start your preparation. So you

993
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 1>do want to leave, and you're able to get a

994
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 1>working visa somewhere else, fine if you do. If you

995
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 1>have no choice but to stay, then you need to

996
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 1>start to arm yourself with knowledge, arm yourself with the

997
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:57.599
<v Speaker 1>right circles, arm yourself with power. And that power stops,

998
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>not stop, but starts with how you engage in your community,

999
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 1>in your society. Don't live it to other people to

1000
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 1>do so. It doesn't matter if you're from a small

1001
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>town in Minnesota, which Trump was just saying about, you know, Surmalians.

1002
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 1>If there's nothing that exists, create it. Start to create

1003
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a subset community of people that you can recognize, who

1004
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>are like, Okay, this is who you can go to

1005
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>for legal, for accounting, for this. You need to have

1006
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a circle of people around you that you can trust.

1007
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And then when I say trust, I don't mean oh

1008
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm giving you my life. That's not what

1009
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I mean people who are like minded, people

1010
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.679
<v Speaker 1>who you know are also engaged and knowledgeable in things

1011
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that you are non knowledgeable and engaged on So start

1012
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to widen your circle. And can I just say to you,

1013
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Let me just say to you people that it is

1014
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>important for you not to limit yourself. It's bad enough

1015
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that they've limited you by their perception. So you could

1016
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 1>be black, brown, you can be Muslim. You could be

1017
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.639
<v Speaker 1>part of a marginalized group that is already limited by

1018
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the perception of those in power. Remove that limitation from

1019
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:14.079
<v Speaker 1>your mind and broaden your horizon. Start to making new friends.

1020
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Start to understand things you did not understand. And I'll

1021
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 1>tell you this as I've grown older. I recently turned fifty.

1022
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I know I don't look at but we do try'd

1023
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 1>bed But one of the things I've learned in my

1024
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 1>own journey is to unpick my learning. People, it will

1025
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 1>shock you how much I have that I did not

1026
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>realize I had internalized from white supremacy, from ignorance, from

1027
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 1>things I was exposed to as a child, or you know,

1028
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.199
<v Speaker 1>or growing up as a teenager, or because I just

1029
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.639
<v Speaker 1>never made the time, which is why it took the

1030
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 1>last two years for me to unpick my learning about

1031
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:57.639
<v Speaker 1>things that I took for granted. Okay, whether it's about Zionism,

1032
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I lived in a world. Let me just tell you.

1033
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I lived in the world at my grand age of

1034
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 1>forty eight when October seventh happened. I lived in a

1035
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 1>world where I thought God overcomes evil. Eventually, the right

1036
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.400
<v Speaker 1>thing will happened, we have the right people. Only for

1037
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.760
<v Speaker 1>all of that to come crashing down around my ears,

1038
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I know I need to go. I mean, there are

1039
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:21.320
<v Speaker 1>times that I almost take a pillow and I want

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01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to stream into it. I my remote control at the

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01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.920
<v Speaker 1>TV screen. But the only reason stopping me is because

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01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a cost of living crisis. And I counted for

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01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:35.039
<v Speaker 1>to buy world. So you know, you know, you end

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01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 1>up just managing your own expectations. I'm like, where have

1045
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I been living? What have I been doing? I thought

1046
01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I was making you know, I thought I was making impact.

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01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:47.760
<v Speaker 1>How could I possibly have been making any kind of

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01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.400
<v Speaker 1>impact if I didn't even know about ABC. I remember recently,

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01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was this year that there was a

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01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:58.519
<v Speaker 1>documentary Channel four, which is a British channel, and they

1051
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about This documentary was about the UH about the

1052
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 1>far rights against Asian people, against Bangladeshi Pakistani people in Britain.

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01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Amanda the focus of this documentary was about the murder

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01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.039
<v Speaker 1>of some of some of these Asian people in Britain.

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01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 1>By the time I finished watching it, I was I was.

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01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I gaped at my own ignorance. I was ashamed that

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01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:38.639
<v Speaker 1>I never heard these Asian brothers were murdered by these

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01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:43.400
<v Speaker 1>far right people. I had never heard about it. I

1059
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:49.079
<v Speaker 1>was so mad at myself that documentary. Yeah, but this

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01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm talking about. I have a duty to

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01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:54.519
<v Speaker 1>go learn about what I don't. I don't even know

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01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.159
<v Speaker 1>what I don't know. That's how bad it is. Do

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01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you know? The media is used to raised history. The

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01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:04.119
<v Speaker 1>media is used to dictate to us what we should know,

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01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:07.840
<v Speaker 1>what we should care about. I've studied questioning every media

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01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.239
<v Speaker 1>source that I have because I'm like, why are you

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01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:12.199
<v Speaker 1>telling me about this, but you're not telling me about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because of course I have broadened where I get my

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01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>sources from, and so by thinking this is what I

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01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>tell my kids. I've got three daughters and they're here

1071
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in this house. Because my husband probably disagrees with fifty

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01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.679
<v Speaker 1>percent of my of my political views. I mean, we

1073
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:32.039
<v Speaker 1>are centered on all the right things, but he would

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01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 1>say things like when there was Brexit, he was like

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01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Brexton's gonna happen. I'm like, why would Brexa happen? This

1076
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 1>is me. I'm on the front line of marches. I'm

1077
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.719
<v Speaker 1>speaking at rallies, speaking out against Brestain and I come

1078
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 1>on and my husband's like, Brexit's gonna happen. You need

1079
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to read the room. These people are not listening up.

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01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, y what And he turned out to be right.

1081
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Then there was the whole Trump and Hillary Clinton election.

1082
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nobody in the right mind will vote for Trump. No, no, no, no,

1083
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:58.559
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. He just looks at me and went,

1084
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Trump is going to with how can you? And here

1085
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I am out in protest. I was one of the

1086
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, co organizers and women's mouth, Papa, you know

1087
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:08.599
<v Speaker 1>you can't do. And my husband turned out to write

1088
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:10.079
<v Speaker 1>to be right. You know what my daughter said to me.

1089
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell what my daughter has said to me.

1090
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:16.199
<v Speaker 1>They said, mommy, you're very passionate. That's very good. But

1091
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:21.679
<v Speaker 1>daddy was right because he was right. I am living

1092
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.760
<v Speaker 1>in a I'm living in a bubble where I think

1093
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:27.000
<v Speaker 1>goode must overcome evil. These people must see what's on.

1094
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And these people are not on the same wavelength as me.

1095
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.760
<v Speaker 1>The same people who voted for Tromp and now especially

1096
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 1>the marginalized people like some of the Latinas and some

1097
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of the black people that voted for him, I can

1098
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:42.880
<v Speaker 1>now see that his policies are directly affecting them. I'm like,

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01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.559
<v Speaker 1>where you comatos, when we told you that that's what's

1100
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.280
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. What is wrong with you people? So

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01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I am now learning that, Okay, Sela, you need to

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01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:53.800
<v Speaker 1>take a different because my husband always says to me,

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01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.360
<v Speaker 1>listen the rate you're going, you're gonna have a high

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01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.559
<v Speaker 1>blood pressure. I need you to I need you to

1105
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.679
<v Speaker 1>be around for a long term, so you can't possibly

1106
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:05.519
<v Speaker 1>be angry by everything. So now I'm like, okay, I

1107
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 1>go back to that two thousand and six I go

1108
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.039
<v Speaker 1>he said this, Okay, let me just start to Let

1109
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 1>let me just understand that I am not people. Some

1110
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.639
<v Speaker 1>people and I are not on the same wavelength. So

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01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it has to be the point that I am not

1112
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.679
<v Speaker 1>going to lose hope because there are people out there

1113
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:23.440
<v Speaker 1>who don't think like me, which is why the last

1114
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.079
<v Speaker 1>general election here in the UK, people like, we only

1115
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:29.280
<v Speaker 1>have two choices, you either go labor or conservative. I'm like,

1116
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you have two choices. I have free I have Labor

1117
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Tory and everybody else that is in Labor or Torri

1118
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to go with anybody else that's well,

1119
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it not telling me I don't have choices. I do

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01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:44.360
<v Speaker 1>have choices. And this is what I'm saying that we

1121
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.800
<v Speaker 1>need to start to defy the start of school. We

1122
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 1>need to start to say, you know, stop coming up

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01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:53.159
<v Speaker 1>with excuses why you shouldn't do the very thing that

1124
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:55.400
<v Speaker 1>will change the start of school. And that's where I'm

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01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 1>at because I'm like, I will not be responsible for

1126
01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:02.039
<v Speaker 1>your choice in pig Kistoma when you can already see

1127
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Kisama is a truth fashline political prostitute. I Am not

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be responsible for you to go and vote

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01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:11.880
<v Speaker 1>for Trump or some people's case Kamala Harris. And I'm like,

1130
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 1>m to me, she's showing a true college. I do

1131
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 1>not see a difference between genocidal Trump and genocidal Kamala Harris.

1132
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.719
<v Speaker 1>If she's suddenly just gonna keep you know, harving Israel. Yeah,

1133
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.679
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to listen. Oh no, we can't vote

1134
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:30.480
<v Speaker 1>for the Green Party. Well come up with a viable alternative.

1135
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Stop acting like the Republicans and Democrats are your only

1136
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 1>choices to Democrats are controlled opposition. But no, But here's

1137
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the thing.

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01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I used to really feel like voting was a necessary tool,

1139
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and I feel more and more that voting ends up

1140
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:54.519
<v Speaker 2>being an uh. I feel more and more, particularly in

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01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the United States, that voting.

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01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Is somewhat of a.

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01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Demonstration of the populace that they still believe in the government.

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01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 1>And well in people power. I see the other way,

1145
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.440
<v Speaker 1>rather than believing government, but that you believe No, Well,

1146
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:13.360
<v Speaker 1>listen to what I'm saying.

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01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that the the But in this country, the

1148
01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.560
<v Speaker 2>government does not respond to people power.

1149
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So even though people get elected, that doesn't end up being.

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01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:29.319
<v Speaker 2>An indication that the desires of the people are going

1151
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:31.479
<v Speaker 2>to be met by who they have represent Who they

1152
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 2>are is representative, I mean, and that's been studied and proven.

1153
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 1>They just do whatever they want.

1154
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:41.039
<v Speaker 2>So I think at this point there does end up

1155
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:50.199
<v Speaker 2>being a very aligned attachment between voting as a actual

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01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:54.119
<v Speaker 2>in the United States specifically, I can't speak about anywhere else.

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01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I can only speak about here because that's what I

1158
01:08:55.640 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 2>know that here, voting has become a way for the

1159
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 2>government to determine how much.

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01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Faith the populace has in them.

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01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:10.479
<v Speaker 2>That is a fact, like there we already see by

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01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:16.239
<v Speaker 2>pattern recognition that they are not governing based on the people.

1163
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 2>They use it as a benchmark every two years to

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01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:27.279
<v Speaker 2>basically determine how much they have to repress or suppress.

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01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:29.439
<v Speaker 2>So at one point in time, when people would say

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01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 2>we need to hold the vote, I was like, that

1167
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:35.199
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense because there isn't anything alternative. Whereas at

1168
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 2>this point, I would say, holding the vote becomes an

1169
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 2>act of resistance because it is a show of a

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01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.560
<v Speaker 2>lack of faith in the establishment, and that is their fear.

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01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And you see, that's what else slightly I would disagree

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01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:57.239
<v Speaker 1>with you on because my fear now, I mean, if

1173
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:58.399
<v Speaker 1>you had said this to me when I was in

1174
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:02.119
<v Speaker 1>my thirties, does a yaa. But now I'm like, holding

1175
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the vote it means not participating actually make a change

1176
01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and can change with the VET. But you can't make

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01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:14.479
<v Speaker 1>a change with what you're voting for, That's what I'm saying.

1178
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:18.199
<v Speaker 1>So so I can you and I can agree on this.

1179
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:22.479
<v Speaker 1>You cannot make a change if the options available to

1180
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you are tools that are I think you can. So

1181
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:28.199
<v Speaker 1>let me know what I'm saying.

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01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is that there is no version of

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01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the United States government that will provide the current capitalist

1184
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:39.479
<v Speaker 2>United States government that will provide you tools to make

1185
01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:43.319
<v Speaker 2>it change so and doesn't matter who you plug into it, right,

1186
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 2>it does not, It can't. It's literally like trying to

1187
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:48.399
<v Speaker 2>put a square peg in a circle.

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01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 1>And I see what you're saying, but I think, and

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01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. I'll tell you this. I see what

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01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:55.199
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, and I think, to some extent I kind

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01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of agree, except where I see that something like Mamdanny's

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01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 1>win kind of let me tell you what I'm thinking.

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01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what I'm thinking. I know you're

1194
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.479
<v Speaker 1>shaking your head. Just hold up a second, zoramm Danny

1195
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:10.119
<v Speaker 1>came from way out of the field, right. It started

1196
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:12.880
<v Speaker 1>off with one percent or something, right, he would not

1197
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:16.640
<v Speaker 1>have even been in the vision of of real opposition.

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01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think that not only was he seeing the writings,

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01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:26.239
<v Speaker 1>but he gave the He presented himself as being on

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01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the very issues that people wanted to address. And watch

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01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:35.279
<v Speaker 1>how people power shifted in taking his one percent to

1202
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 1>over fifty percent. That is where I think people power.

1203
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Then what oh no, and then what we'll see from January.

1204
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:47.279
<v Speaker 2>We will see see from January, we're already seeing he's

1205
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 2>already doing. So what I'm saying is that even though

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01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that's an example, you just named one mayoral race in

1207
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:59.920
<v Speaker 2>an entire country. Yes, that's an anomaly, that's.

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01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Not least the exception. Absolutely absolutely, But I think part

1209
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:06.359
<v Speaker 1>of the problem as well as we They are probably

1210
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 1>lots of a good few more Zora Man Danny's out there.

1211
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:12.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't even know that Dora Mam Danny is Zorah Man.

1212
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 1>But when I say Zora Mam Danny, let's just use

1213
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it metaphorically as somebody that can gana people's support and

1214
01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and be on the issues that people care about.

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01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:31.000
<v Speaker 2>No warring Zionism and theism. We listen, Sola, the framework

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01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 2>is embedded in Zionism.

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01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't agree with you.

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01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:37.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree in the United States that we end

1219
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:39.760
<v Speaker 2>up talking about Like here in the US, everyone ends

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01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.520
<v Speaker 2>up talking about MEGA, which I get right because MEGA

1221
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:46.640
<v Speaker 2>is very powerful and they're very impactful. However, they consistently

1222
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:51.279
<v Speaker 2>disassociate that MEGA and Democrats are both on the same

1223
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:52.520
<v Speaker 2>page with Zionism.

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01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:55.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm hearing you, but you're not hearing me. I'm

1225
01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:00.840
<v Speaker 1>saying that in look at how zion Is disagree with you? Okay, okay,

1226
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 1>good here I disagree or that's what I live here.

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01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm telling you that somebody here I'm using it.

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01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Not just as the United States. I'm also using it,

1229
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:14.239
<v Speaker 2>but I have completely I have I have said that

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01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm only couching this in the United States.

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01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't start anywhere else. What I'm trying to say

1232
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:27.319
<v Speaker 1>here is I'm not ignoring scientists. Is she frozen or

1233
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:29.479
<v Speaker 1>is it me? Am I frozen? Or she frozen?

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01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Is she frozen or am my frozen? Damn well, she'll

1235
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.520
<v Speaker 2>come back. Someone said, let's hear her point of view.

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01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:43.680
<v Speaker 2>We did hear her point of view.

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01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.760
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is people power.

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01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Becomes something different if it's powering.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're and FROs Okay, what were you saying? Ok okay,

1240
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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm trying to say is this, I'm not

1241
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 1>ignoring Zionist. If I'm not igloring Baga, I'm not ignoring

1242
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.840
<v Speaker 1>any of those powers. I'm using Ma'm Danny as an

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01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>example where all of these powerful systems and forces could

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01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.760
<v Speaker 1>not stop power from changing the outcome. Now, whether or

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01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.119
<v Speaker 1>not Zora Mam Daddy ends up being like the system,

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01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:23.560
<v Speaker 1>or you know, successfully fights a system. We will see

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01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:25.920
<v Speaker 1>or maybe we're still seeing. It doesn't change the fact

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01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 1>that in the face of the powerful, all of the

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01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:33.680
<v Speaker 1>horrible things they did against him, that people power went

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01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:37.680
<v Speaker 1>f you, We're still going to vote for him. That's

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01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:39.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm pointing out. So I'm not even talking about

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01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Zora mam Daddy's character or him as a person. No,

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01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm really just talking about people power.

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01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.640
<v Speaker 2>And what I'm saying is that what happens in this

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01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:57.399
<v Speaker 2>nation is that we are giving crumbs of exception that

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01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:01.600
<v Speaker 2>we then name as the rule, and it continues to

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01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:06.680
<v Speaker 2>tie us to practices that don't actually help us. So

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01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 2>one Zoora Mamdani, for me, cannot be considered a rule

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01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:16.600
<v Speaker 2>of possibility when it really doesn't match up with the

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01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:18.119
<v Speaker 2>realm of reality.

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01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:20.399
<v Speaker 1>And that realm says.

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01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.880
<v Speaker 2>That even though he did get elected by the people,

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01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:27.039
<v Speaker 2>which is a beautiful thing, we are still seeing the

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01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Zionist rule and we saw it start to happen during

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01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.760
<v Speaker 2>that process. And furthermore, I am now in the United

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01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:39.680
<v Speaker 2>States as someone who was a staunch voter, like staunch proud,

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01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:46.399
<v Speaker 2>like the dynamics made sense, I will say dynamic shift,

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01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:49.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it's like something that made like when

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01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 2>we say we vote because people died for it in

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01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the sixties, Yes, And then those same people will tell

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01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.199
<v Speaker 2>you that after they died for it and got the

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01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.359
<v Speaker 2>right to vote and thought that it was going to

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01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:04.920
<v Speaker 2>shift the culture of this nation, it didn't, and it

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01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:08.760
<v Speaker 2>made them lose faith in the actual establishment that they

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01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:10.960
<v Speaker 2>were working so hard to be a part of. So

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01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.800
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is that in this time, I'm having

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01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a revelation around voting because so many of us see

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01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:26.880
<v Speaker 2>voting as participatory and thus a necessity, because it demonstrates

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01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:27.479
<v Speaker 2>that we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a proof of life. And I

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01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:32.199
<v Speaker 1>never would.

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01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Have considered not voting protests until I began to understand

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01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:41.079
<v Speaker 2>that the establishment sees our vote as a way to

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01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:43.159
<v Speaker 2>keep us.

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01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Passive.

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01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:48.680
<v Speaker 2>It presents it to us as our greatest tool. Here

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01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 2>in the United States, they present voting as our greatest tool.

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01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:58.279
<v Speaker 1>They did the same in the UK, absolutely, but were.

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01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Making us feel like, well, then I guess we don't

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01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 2>have to resist. I guess we don't have to form

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01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:07.359
<v Speaker 2>our own communities because we're going to do our work

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01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 2>in the vote and.

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01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>The point is how we use that vote and how

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01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that vote is then weaponized against us. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I have the issue, because everything you're saying about

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<v Speaker 1>how the system works and establishment, I see our hand

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01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in it. I see our hands. So if I use

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<v Speaker 1>Britain as an example, and maybe it can you translate

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01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to America, I see a hand in how we elect

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01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 1>our members of parliament. Every member of parliament you elect

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01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.119
<v Speaker 1>becomes your representative in Parliament, right in the House of Parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>And what then happens is if you exercise your vote

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01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to voting a bad person, you know, somebody you know

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01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:47.479
<v Speaker 1>that is deeply problematic on issues that may not necessarily

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01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 1>impact you but impacts other people. You're part of the problem.

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01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 1>You're part of creating that establishment. And I've witnessed that

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01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in the way I've observed you as politics, in the

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01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.560
<v Speaker 1>way people justify who they vote for and how they

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01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.199
<v Speaker 1>defend it. And I'm saying, how can you not see

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01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.039
<v Speaker 1>all this? And they come up with, you know, the

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01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:07.800
<v Speaker 1>lesser of to evils. I'm like, this lesser of to

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01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>evils is still evil. The problem is you are not

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01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:15.319
<v Speaker 1>presenting yourself with an alternative, and even if an alternative comes,

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01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you then convince yourself that you can't go with the

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01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:21.680
<v Speaker 1>alternative because the alternative isn't powerful enough. And I'm like,

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01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you do understand that the only reason the Republicans and

1317
01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are powerful in the state, the Conservatives and the

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01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Labor Party are powerful in Britain is because you keep

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01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:36.119
<v Speaker 1>voting for them. If once, if just for once, the

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01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.079
<v Speaker 1>majority of the populace decided to take their votes away

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01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:41.640
<v Speaker 1>from these people. Take your votes away from them. There's

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01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>jack or they can do about it. Give it to

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01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:47.439
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, Try somebody else, even if it's even if

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01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it looks impossible, even if it looks like they only

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01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:51.640
<v Speaker 1>have one percent, even if it looks at well, they

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01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have enough senators enough Robbins, stop that bullshit, Stop

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01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>all those excuses that they fed into your head, and

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01:18:57.920 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>just go a different route.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's where I have to challenge you on this,

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01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 2>because you're speaking about voting as if it is done fairly,

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01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:10.520
<v Speaker 2>as and it's not right like we're speaking about this

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01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:15.039
<v Speaker 2>in the context of there being some actual.

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01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Like legitimacy to voting.

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01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:21.199
<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you for a fact, the United

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01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:32.319
<v Speaker 2>States has has destabilized, has infiltrated has affected every not every,

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01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.159
<v Speaker 2>but one hundred and sixty one of the one hundred

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01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and sixty three countries in the UN.

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<v Speaker 1>It has had a hand in one of their elections

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01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:40.319
<v Speaker 1>or another.

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01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so, and knowing that we have to trust that

1341
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:47.840
<v Speaker 2>if they're doing it everywhere else, they practice it here first.

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01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:52.239
<v Speaker 1>So I say that to say, let me post this thing.

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01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Did I bring it up? So? Like right now, right,

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01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:00.359
<v Speaker 1>You've got this thing happening.

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01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:05.239
<v Speaker 2>In uh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,

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01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing this up right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, this is going on in uh New Orleans.

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01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Of course, my phone just freaking died, Okay. So basically,

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01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:25.960
<v Speaker 2>right now, they are bringing Zionism down to the local level.

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01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So they are meeting with the mayors of cities

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01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:30.079
<v Speaker 1>across the nation.

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01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.720
<v Speaker 2>And you're right, this is a response to Iran, without question, right,

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01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:36.800
<v Speaker 2>this is absolutely your response is Iran. They are coming,

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01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:40.920
<v Speaker 2>they are bringing down They are coming together with mayors

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01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:45.720
<v Speaker 2>across the nation to now influence them to create legislation

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01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that criminalizes anti Semitic language there. And they're starting with

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01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:57.760
<v Speaker 2>a black mayor one of the blackest cities in the world, New.

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01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:05.479
<v Speaker 1>Orleans, probably as no doubt, no doubt. Probably.

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01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:09.199
<v Speaker 2>So when I see that, I say, okay, so this

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01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:13.359
<v Speaker 2>lets us know that any election, well Louisiana politics dollar

1361
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:15.760
<v Speaker 2>has been sketchy anyway, but any election.

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01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:21.680
<v Speaker 1>With Zion is involved, we know it's not above board.

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01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not above board, it's not Listen, we have to

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01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:29.119
<v Speaker 1>recognize that these obstacles exist, These power systems, this forces

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01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>exist because they're the status squall and they're and you know,

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01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:38.680
<v Speaker 1>they're the goliath to our David. But we cannot say

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01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that because of that goliath. So, for instance, uh, in

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01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the in the UK, we got what they call first

1369
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>past supposed right, which is deeply problematic in how our

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01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:52.199
<v Speaker 1>political parties win the elections. It's almost similar to you

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01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:55.359
<v Speaker 1>guys with your electoralcologies and blah blah blah, because it's

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01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:57.640
<v Speaker 1>not how many people voted that ends up being a

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01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>persuasive win. It is it is this stuff, and we

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01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:02.800
<v Speaker 1>need to get rid of this. First part, Suppose I

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01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:08.520
<v Speaker 1>am saying that, regardless of how huge, powerful and forceful

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01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Goliath is should not stop our David from throwing that

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01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>freaking stone, from throwing the stone. I'm saying that he

1378
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 1>has to change the stone. That's all I'm saying the stone,

1379
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, I'm with you. That's what I'm saying.

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01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.079
<v Speaker 1>At this point. The bulletin, at this point, the bulletin

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01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.199
<v Speaker 1>is not a stone. The voting is a cotton ball.

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01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm whether it is voting or any other

1383
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>but we need to still throw that stone whatever, whatever

1384
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>however that stone might manifest, it needs to be done.

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01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:44.479
<v Speaker 1>It must be done or else nothing will.

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01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is that we have to innovate the way

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01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:51.159
<v Speaker 2>that we are operating because it isn't working right because

1388
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:55.439
<v Speaker 2>if we've been doing that, innovator the way we're operating,

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01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>we have to birth a new method.

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01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, watch the innovation of this powerful forces

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01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the way this is. So this is my thing. I

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01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:08.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like if the if the force.

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01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so remember you were saying like they are David, right,

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01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>so we have the David please sorry, they're gLing, they're Goliath.

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01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So okay. You know when you see a moving.

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01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Car and there's something on the car that is like

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01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:24.600
<v Speaker 2>stopping the car right, like it's preventing it from moving.

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01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.119
<v Speaker 2>The best way to get that thing off the car

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01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>is to do what tell me, pop.

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01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Stop.

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01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:36.960
<v Speaker 2>If you are driving and there's somebody chasing you, the

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01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:38.319
<v Speaker 2>best way to get them.

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01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:40.479
<v Speaker 1>To stop is to stop.

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01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.479
<v Speaker 2>And so what I'm saying is that if we're dealing

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01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:45.960
<v Speaker 2>with something that's of a greater force, oh let me

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01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.439
<v Speaker 2>let me cut this person. Sorry, I have to block

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01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>this person. If we're dealing with a greater force than

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01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:58.399
<v Speaker 2>what we can manage with force, then we have the

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01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>judo and we have to use their force against them.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I mean, agreement with you. So for instance, another

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01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>example you just give now about how zonus are going

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01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>to the local level in response to Zorn, we need

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01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to be working at a freaking local level. We need

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01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to be way out of a Yeah. So I'm saying

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01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:19.039
<v Speaker 1>that the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Like someone else said right here, voting takes five minutes,

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01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>do that and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm trying to express. What I'm trying to express

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01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:30.079
<v Speaker 1>is that our continued.

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01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Involvement in upholding the establishment with our participation, continues to

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01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:43.560
<v Speaker 2>give it breath. Our continued involvement in upholding capitalism in

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01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the in the traditional way continues to give it breath.

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01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:48.199
<v Speaker 2>So you see people who are talking about how do

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01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.600
<v Speaker 2>we barter? Right, like, I'm trying to do things very

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01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:56.159
<v Speaker 2>differently with how I run my merchantile right, because I'm

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01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:59.159
<v Speaker 2>trying to undermine the systems. And what I'm saying to

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01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:05.159
<v Speaker 2>y'all is I'm just floating the concept of how does

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01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:11.399
<v Speaker 2>removal from an establishment cripple that establishment if you are

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01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the thing that keeps it going.

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01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's all I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When

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01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it comes when it comes to things like you know,

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01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:21.279
<v Speaker 1>these establishments, you'll removal will not change the establishment because

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01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>it's not what we don't know. We've never tried it. No,

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01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know that. Okay, So okay, it means that you

1435
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>are saying different from what I'm saying. I'm saying, vote,

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01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:35.039
<v Speaker 1>will vote totally different. Don't vote for these two many politicians.

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01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:39.039
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, don't vote at all.

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01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Because at all I'm saying, I'm at where I'm at

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01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>a point, Shola, where I feel that we should not

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01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:49.760
<v Speaker 2>be participating in their system.

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01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>We should have our own system. That system. The only

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01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:55.319
<v Speaker 1>way we can change.

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01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:58.319
<v Speaker 2>That systems are actually not governed by that system, because

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01:25:58.319 --> 01:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>we can't even control the way we're governed.

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01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>At this point, we are like, no law, Amanda, this

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01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:06.039
<v Speaker 1>is what but this is what we must do. Now,

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01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>we must change the way we are governed by. Like

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01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:13.239
<v Speaker 1>example I gave you earlier starting with how we elect

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01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>our representatives.

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01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that makes sense because we don't have

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01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>power over how we elect our representatives.

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01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:23.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, Okay, So if I don't vote, for instance,

1453
01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:26.279
<v Speaker 1>let's let's say, for instance, let's use Zoran as an example. Yeah,

1454
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:29.319
<v Speaker 1>and people decided, you know what, it's not going to

1455
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>make any difference anyway Cuomo would win or that other

1456
01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>guy would win, Then Zohn would never have won. Cuomo

1457
01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>would have won. There would be no way to change.

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01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>One person is person.

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01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like, if an entire populace is like, you

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01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>know what, fuck y'all election, and we're going Now, let

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01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>me say this, It's not just that, Like I want

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01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:56.560
<v Speaker 2>to make that point too, Like I'm not saying just

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01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:57.119
<v Speaker 2>not vote.

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01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:02.039
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is there's at and then and the

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01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>end then is how are we shifting how we are.

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01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Engaging with those other systems in the same way, right,

1467
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>like the systems that those votes control.

1468
01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>And this is not something that happens like in the

1469
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:16.079
<v Speaker 1>snap of a finger.

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01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:20.079
<v Speaker 2>But what all I'm suggesting is that the methodology of

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01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>voting as an efficable as an efic The methodology of

1472
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:26.319
<v Speaker 2>voting as an effective tool has yet to be proven

1473
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:28.439
<v Speaker 2>in a very in a in a long standing and

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01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>real way. Like ultimately Zorn's been elected, but we're still like,

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01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>h he kept Jessica tition position.

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01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:39.079
<v Speaker 1>He's don't he wants talking jeffries to be the Speaker

1477
01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of the House.

1478
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:45.479
<v Speaker 2>He he is rolling back his his support of like

1479
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>the global intellect, the globalized, the indefata, et cetera.

1480
01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Like you have some chick on here who is.

1481
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Like false Amanda, you know, because she's very passionate about

1482
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>voting as a tool, And the reality is is that voting.

1483
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>As a tool is not It is a tool.

1484
01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I do not consider it to be an effective tool

1485
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:11.399
<v Speaker 2>at this point.

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01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:14.079
<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm saying that, Amanda, what we need

1487
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:18.039
<v Speaker 1>to do is find a way to use to use

1488
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>voting as a much more effective tool. We need to

1489
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>broaden party. No no, not just a third party, not

1490
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>just a third party, but we need to widen our

1491
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:33.079
<v Speaker 1>breath of real quick.

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01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Amy, you got one more fucking comment before I

1493
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:37.680
<v Speaker 2>remove you from here, because I don't know who the

1494
01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>hell you think you're talking to.

1495
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.399
<v Speaker 1>You got one more? What does she say? She says,

1496
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:45.239
<v Speaker 1>in here talking to me like have you door knocked?

1497
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you not like the way that y'all be talking

1498
01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to me like I'm your little friend. I don't know

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01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>who you think you're talking to. Orlando already removed her

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01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:02.119
<v Speaker 2>because white women. That's other things. So like when the

1501
01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:04.399
<v Speaker 2>white girls be talking to me crazy, I'd be like, get.

1502
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Out of here. Okay, what were you saying? I think

1503
01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that what we need to do is breadth, is to

1504
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:14.439
<v Speaker 1>widen our breath of Let me just use the world fighters. Okay,

1505
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be something I can bring to the table

1506
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in this whole voting and how we use voting that

1507
01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>other people and other people can bring different things. What

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01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:26.319
<v Speaker 1>we are missing, I think is that skill set, the

1509
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:29.199
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and the you know, a way to bring all

1510
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that harness, all that enabled to be able to in

1511
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:35.439
<v Speaker 1>order to be able to then change the establishment, change

1512
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>how voting can be used to can tell me do this?

1513
01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:40.479
<v Speaker 1>This have to be a call for that whyn't be cool,

1514
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>look it it can be. It could doesn't have to

1515
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>be military, whether you call it resistance, a cool whatever.

1516
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>It is clear to me and to you that we

1517
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>are at an existential point now that literally our lives, liberty,

1518
01:29:56.760 --> 01:30:00.199
<v Speaker 1>and livelihoods are at risk. So if you want use

1519
01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the word could resistance, I don't care. Something needs to change,

1520
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that needs to change. We're not I'm definitely not advocating

1521
01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>or endorsing for blood to shed. We don't need to

1522
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>do that, I am. But what I'm endorsing advocating is

1523
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>we need to know what we can all bring to

1524
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the table the same way Zionists are now going to infiltrate,

1525
01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the local level. We need to start

1526
01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:27.399
<v Speaker 1>working that local level. We need to understand. Listen, the

1527
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.199
<v Speaker 1>way Amanda you are aware of what they're doing is

1528
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>where millions of people are not even aware. So how

1529
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.039
<v Speaker 1>can you start to fight your enemy when you don't

1530
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>even understand or know what your enemy is? You can't. No,

1531
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.039
<v Speaker 1>you can't, That's right. I mean, that's why political education.

1532
01:30:40.079 --> 01:30:42.359
<v Speaker 2>That's why I do this show for free, you know, like,

1533
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:44.439
<v Speaker 2>that's literally why, that's why my book talks.

1534
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Are for free.

1535
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you can, if you can buy a

1536
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 2>bug grade, If you can't, like, that's really why however,

1537
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and if you can, you're describing and that would educate

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01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:59.159
<v Speaker 2>you too. And yes, what you're describing that was reform

1539
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>and formal.

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01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not into the reform. I have several to.

1541
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>You are because although you're saying you still want to

1542
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>work within the system, you know I don't want the

1543
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:13.479
<v Speaker 2>guide out.

1544
01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to change the system. But I also understand

1545
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>for me to change the system, sometimes I'm going to

1546
01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>need somebody's in the system who is like me, who's

1547
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:28.279
<v Speaker 1>ready to change something and they can't use their also

1548
01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:31.039
<v Speaker 1>build other things outside the system. I'm going to do

1549
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it and I and I had this.

1550
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 2>I used to feel this way, but then I met

1551
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the people in the system, the ones who I thought

1552
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>were like that, and at the end of the day,

1553
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the day, it became toxic

1554
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>positivity because I'm like, well, these people have not demonstrated

1555
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the revolutionary mindset because they're still having to do a

1556
01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>dance of power. You have to be willing to go

1557
01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>in and get kicked out like that, to me, is

1558
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the only real effort.

1559
01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 1>But that's because progress takes time. So why it actually

1560
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take when I say it. When I say it

1561
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:08.199
<v Speaker 1>takes time, let me land sis let me land. When

1562
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:11.079
<v Speaker 1>I say it takes time, it's because I am not

1563
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.159
<v Speaker 1>looking for reform. I'm looking for revolution. When I say

1564
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:18.039
<v Speaker 1>it takes time, I'm talking about finding the people. The people. Yes,

1565
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:20.319
<v Speaker 1>we have to create the people need to create those things.

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01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Those people, some of whom you do not know. Some

1567
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>of them I don't know. Yes, somewhere in LA right now,

1568
01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>who is the perfect candidate, perfect candidate, But we don't

1569
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:33.439
<v Speaker 1>know each other. That is where time comes in and

1570
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the moment all of this bits click boomer. That's the way.

1571
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a question, what does your husband think?

1572
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>He probably not even probably what he thinks generally is

1573
01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:51.279
<v Speaker 1>my view, my thoughts. What you and I discuss now

1574
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>sounds really good. But he's more of a realist, so

1575
01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:59.159
<v Speaker 1>he would go or do you understand what you're facing?

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01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:02.159
<v Speaker 1>And how long? Doubt it because the majority of people

1577
01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>out there are not only willfully ignorant, so so for.

1578
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Instance that that that's a fact, they.

1579
01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Willingly participate in their own demids because all they're looking

1580
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>at is somebody else. They're point, they're blaming, blaming other

1581
01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:22.399
<v Speaker 1>people for their problem. They are tools to maintain the

1582
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>oppression that establishment, you know, imposes on us. My husband

1583
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:30.399
<v Speaker 1>is of the mind, he is his own is more

1584
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.199
<v Speaker 1>like you need to you need to pay attention to

1585
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:36.079
<v Speaker 1>what those people are doing, because you're not talking about voting.

1586
01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Most people are probably more than you. They're probably more

1587
01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:42.399
<v Speaker 1>of them who are willing to come out to vote,

1588
01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>willing to be weaponized as tools. While amongst us here

1589
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:53.159
<v Speaker 1>we're not even unified. Sometimes we're talking across purposes. We

1590
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>can't even get our acts together so that we can

1591
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:59.319
<v Speaker 1>create a formidable force to create the revolution that we

1592
01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:03.239
<v Speaker 1>want to see, so that we end up working in silos,

1593
01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and when one of us gets crushed, there's not writing.

1594
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:10.199
<v Speaker 1>There's not writing from different podcast. Go let's get them

1595
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>back up, Let's get the back of mush, go go down.

1596
01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:16.199
<v Speaker 1>That's it. That is the problem. That's part of them,

1597
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>because those on that side don't have that issue. They're

1598
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so unified in their hate and bigotry, in their want

1599
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of other people are the problem because the people on

1600
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>top of them, their leeds, keep telling them or you see,

1601
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you see that plate of cookie, just won't cookie. He

1602
01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>wants to take it from you. One of persons telling

1603
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:40.079
<v Speaker 1>them that, like have a plate now, the houses full

1604
01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of cookies, and they refuse to show so. To me,

1605
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>this is part of the problem that those of us

1606
01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>on this side and say we must do something. You're

1607
01:34:52.600 --> 01:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>not gonna unify, and monsters like, well, you need to

1608
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>be very careful your language. Revolution are you mad? What

1609
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>else are you gonna call it? It is a freaking revolution.

1610
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>While you're waiting your time. Police told me that people

1611
01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:15.479
<v Speaker 1>who are dying from hunger, starvation, being discriminated against, they

1612
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>need a revolution, not freaking reform, because reform it's not

1613
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>going to save them. Reforming isn't going to change anything.

1614
01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Let me stop there.

1615
01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:28.279
<v Speaker 2>So the last thing I'll say, because I have to go,

1616
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I have to go. Something that was very unique about

1617
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the Black Panthers and also similarly unique about like the

1618
01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Zapatistas yep is they understood that they just needed to start.

1619
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:58.399
<v Speaker 2>They didn't need necessarily everybody. They needed to provide another option, right.

1620
01:35:59.800 --> 01:36:06.479
<v Speaker 1>And and so what I'm suggesting is that that other.

1621
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Option has to be a completely other option, and that's

1622
01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:15.279
<v Speaker 2>not a political party. The other option has to be

1623
01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:20.520
<v Speaker 2>antithetical to the system that continues to oppress us. It

1624
01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:24.399
<v Speaker 2>cannot be, it cannot utilize that system. Which is why

1625
01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:28.079
<v Speaker 2>NGOs in the United States end up becoming so problematic

1626
01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>because in order for them to operate, they end up

1627
01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:34.640
<v Speaker 2>having to use the actual system that creates the need

1628
01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:35.039
<v Speaker 2>for them.

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01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, you suggested what what would be if it's not

1630
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>if it's not a political party, what would it be?

1631
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>So like, for instance, the Black Panthers were they became

1632
01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:47.239
<v Speaker 2>they were, they started to become possibly a political party,

1633
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:51.720
<v Speaker 2>but essentially they were the Black Panther Party for Freedom

1634
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and Revolution, and so they were literally a community organization.

1635
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Hamas also started the same way. By the way, they've

1636
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:02.279
<v Speaker 2>started as an organized that provided the community with what

1637
01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.399
<v Speaker 2>it needed. And it was a very easy way to

1638
01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:08.600
<v Speaker 2>identify what it needed because the government had not provided

1639
01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:10.399
<v Speaker 2>any of those things. So, for instance, we just had

1640
01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:13.039
<v Speaker 2>a brother on earlier for sixty second headlines who talked

1641
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:15.199
<v Speaker 2>about that he teaches in a school in Atlanta, and

1642
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>majority of the kids in his class don't have hygiene

1643
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:19.800
<v Speaker 2>because they don't have parents that are able to care

1644
01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:21.640
<v Speaker 2>for them the way they need to for whatever reason.

1645
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, they are tired, They are.

1646
01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Often having to care for their children, for their younger siblings,

1647
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and they all suffer from asthma by nature of smoke

1648
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and having to breathe and smoke. And I could promise

1649
01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:35.439
<v Speaker 2>you people that are smoking around them are people who

1650
01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>are suffering from stress and anxiety, and that's why they're smoking.

1651
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:44.119
<v Speaker 2>So you end up providing the necessities that people require

1652
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:47.720
<v Speaker 2>to be able to live in a comfortable way. The

1653
01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>United States government, I can't speak for the UK. The

1654
01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>United States government actively chooses not to require those things

1655
01:37:54.199 --> 01:37:58.359
<v Speaker 2>because they want you to have to depend on the government, right,

1656
01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:00.159
<v Speaker 2>they want that. As much as they try and say

1657
01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that's not what they want, their actions demonstrate something else.

1658
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:08.119
<v Speaker 2>So what I'm saying is that we have organizations all

1659
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>throughout the United States that do fill these gaps. Right. However,

1660
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>there really has to become more formalized methods around this

1661
01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that decidedly debunk or disassociate from the way these other

1662
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>systems are running. And a lot of that is going

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01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:30.199
<v Speaker 2>to have to happen in starting in small towns, because

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01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>in small towns, you know, it was fascinating. I was

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01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>at a baby shower the other day and I live

1666
01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:36.800
<v Speaker 2>in a small town, and I was talking to some

1667
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of the people there. Girl, They're talking about the person

1668
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.640
<v Speaker 2>who controls the water system, like who fixes the water

1669
01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:45.720
<v Speaker 2>tanks by first name, and they're like, oh yeah, and

1670
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>he is also the head of the volunteer fire department.

1671
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's also et cetera, et cetera.

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01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>So you already have these towns that are quote unquote incorporated.

1673
01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:59.159
<v Speaker 2>So in the United States, towns are incorporated. They literally

1674
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:01.479
<v Speaker 2>have to be a bit business. They operate as a

1675
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>business that pays taxes. So there's there's there's these things

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01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:07.359
<v Speaker 2>in place, Doctor Shola mass that.

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01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Must showy mood. You have to say the food insists.

1678
01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:14.199
<v Speaker 1>When did the when did the Shabami mood come into play?

1679
01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you never used to have that. I

1680
01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>only knew you was Sholams. How are you kidding me?

1681
01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>That's my name?

1682
01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I only knew you at Sholams. So doctor

1683
01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Sholam Shabami Moon, thank you here are But what you ask,

1684
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>basically what I'm illuminating is that first of all, we

1685
01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:37.159
<v Speaker 2>have templates here in the United States just because black

1686
01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:39.680
<v Speaker 2>people were forced to do this, right, So before we

1687
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>were even allowed to be a part of the legislative process,

1688
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:44.079
<v Speaker 2>we had to have and we were segregated.

1689
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:46.399
<v Speaker 1>We had literally created our own communities. Did they come

1690
01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>and shut us down?

1691
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, But you over time, like you said, in progress,

1692
01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:53.319
<v Speaker 2>you also learn, right, So it's like, Okay, well we

1693
01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:55.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a militarized element before, that's what we.

1694
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Would need to have.

1695
01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, there's just all I'm stating is that there is

1696
01:39:59.840 --> 01:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>no version of harm reduction that's gonna happen that's gonna

1697
01:40:02.159 --> 01:40:04.359
<v Speaker 2>change anything. So I want to make that clear. I

1698
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.399
<v Speaker 2>am very much about the fact that it's gonna need blood.

1699
01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:08.880
<v Speaker 2>That's just the way things work.

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01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:11.479
<v Speaker 1>But I think what you just said, Amanda is you're

1701
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.399
<v Speaker 1>not coming close to what I would say when I

1702
01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>said of what we need is to build a coisive

1703
01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:22.159
<v Speaker 1>more uh, you know, a way to harness all of

1704
01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>these our superpowers. We just don't recognize what these superpowers are.

1705
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:29.039
<v Speaker 1>That people with skill sets, people in the right position,

1706
01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>people people like you and I, some of whom are

1707
01:40:32.399 --> 01:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>probably watching and listening right now, but can't even we

1708
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>are not identifying ourselves. We need to work in unity,

1709
01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>so across in the United States, in all of these

1710
01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in different states, you start pulling together locally that then

1711
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:49.079
<v Speaker 1>you know statewide, and then nationally. The more you pull

1712
01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>all of these skill sets together, the more powerful you being.

1713
01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:55.159
<v Speaker 1>How you can work how wealth are the zignists and

1714
01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>white supremacists able to function? It's not because it's not

1715
01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>because they all watch perfect people. It's because they're working

1716
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>one accord for what They're unified on one thing and

1717
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>one thing on, which is supremacy. We need to get

1718
01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:12.760
<v Speaker 1>our act together on this side. So whether that's in

1719
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom and the United States, we need to

1720
01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:18.039
<v Speaker 1>start working look gathering those people, like you said with

1721
01:41:18.119 --> 01:41:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the Black Panther meeting. The nature of communities means that

1722
01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:26.359
<v Speaker 1>you end up meeting people, educating, having conversations listed, and

1723
01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>hearing other people bring skill sets. People are already established

1724
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:33.039
<v Speaker 1>in different walks of life, and those are the same

1725
01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>people that you're going to need. I mean, let me

1726
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>use on Mama. Yeah, but I agree with you.

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01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that I don't consider voting to be

1728
01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I consider that needing to happen as a complete turning

1729
01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>their back to a system.

1730
01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And there has to be that, and it has to

1731
01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>happen system, Amanda, that system that becomes a viable alternative

1732
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that you want to discuss, that that you want to happen.

1733
01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that in that progress to getting there, these

1734
01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.039
<v Speaker 1>communities of people who will then start connecting the dots

1735
01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:09.079
<v Speaker 1>must have to make that what's going must that to

1736
01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:15.359
<v Speaker 1>hit the establishment until we've created that alternative system. Hit it. No,

1737
01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>no no. When we say hit it, and I mean

1738
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>right now, I could vote for somebody and have no

1739
01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>power in what happens and who that person is or

1740
01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>how they will function. My point is the more there

1741
01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:31.159
<v Speaker 1>are people like us, and we are growing people. So

1742
01:42:31.399 --> 01:42:34.119
<v Speaker 1>there could be another zona, ma'm danny out there. I'm

1743
01:42:34.119 --> 01:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>only using him as an example, only as an example,

1744
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:39.640
<v Speaker 1>not because he's perfect, just as an example. Okay, there

1745
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:41.720
<v Speaker 1>could be another zona, ma'm danny out there, who does

1746
01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>not have the resource, who doesn't have the way to

1747
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>go together.

1748
01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Let there be another zono, mamm Danny, is what I'm

1749
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>trying to say. So they won't let there be.

1750
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:53.439
<v Speaker 1>That is why we must fight that. And we have

1751
01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>more people like us in this establishment as we build

1752
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the alternative you're talking about, we need to have more

1753
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>people like us. People like us don't go into establishment.

1754
01:43:05.079 --> 01:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any business in establishment because I'm ineffective

1755
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:09.199
<v Speaker 2>in an establishment.

1756
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:12.119
<v Speaker 1>But the establishment is what governs the food on your table,

1757
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the clothes in your back, on the roof of It

1758
01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:16.479
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. It

1759
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>does Why it does it is because it does it,

1760
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>but it does so for instance, No, that's because we

1761
01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>keep empowering it.

1762
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want us to keep empowering empowering it

1763
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>because right now, as an example for the next I

1764
01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>mean once your next general election twenty twenty.

1765
01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Eight or something. Right, well, we have mid terms next year, Okay,

1766
01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you have me terms as all go to change your president. Also,

1767
01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:39.760
<v Speaker 1>president is the least important part of all of this,

1768
01:43:40.159 --> 01:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I understand. My point is this, whether until you have

1769
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.359
<v Speaker 1>your mid terms, until you have your next general election,

1770
01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>we are governed by the establishment, as is correct, So

1771
01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:54.720
<v Speaker 1>we need to start building. Just like designersts are going

1772
01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to the local level and trying to recruit mayors and

1773
01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>all of that, we need to start recruiting the mayors

1774
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and people are representative from council level to any other level.

1775
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>That's what we need to be doing because until this

1776
01:44:07.479 --> 01:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>whole I don't agree.

1777
01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with you, because designers control the system.

1778
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:14.720
<v Speaker 2>So you're trying to get you're trying to you're trying

1779
01:44:14.760 --> 01:44:17.600
<v Speaker 2>to put people into a system that is controlled by.

1780
01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>A bigger force.

1781
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So the only way to dismantle that system is to

1782
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>find its weakness and to also not keep giving it fuel.

1783
01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:28.399
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way. So we're gonna agree to disagree

1784
01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:31.199
<v Speaker 1>when when we're going to agree to disagree. Because when

1785
01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:33.479
<v Speaker 1>you find a weakness, when you do find a weakness

1786
01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:36.199
<v Speaker 1>in the establishment, you need people who are brave enough

1787
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>while you're still trying to bring this alternative thing, who

1788
01:44:40.399 --> 01:44:42.720
<v Speaker 1>are going to shed the lights, who are going to

1789
01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>strike the match that will set fire. It doesn't matter

1790
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>if it's a tiny fire, it doesn't matter if it's

1791
01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:50.479
<v Speaker 1>a small pebble or small stone. The deity that comes

1792
01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>throw that into into the head forehead of the goliath.

1793
01:44:54.079 --> 01:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>You still need them until this system you're talking about

1794
01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>comes to pass. You still want to see that word? Sorry,

1795
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen that work? I have not. Every

1796
01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>time there's been a start of something. Look at Africa

1797
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:13.159
<v Speaker 1>as a continent, America goes in and kills them. And

1798
01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:17.079
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons America has been successful in toppling

1799
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>foreign governments and you know, Invaity and this stuff is

1800
01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>because half the time the Africans there don't even understand

1801
01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>what is happening exactly, and then they weaponize other Africans

1802
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>there who are only interested in their self interest to

1803
01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>kill the Patrick Lumumba and other people. This is how

1804
01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>we change things by educating each other, by stating not

1805
01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:45.399
<v Speaker 1>just information gathering, people gathering, come here, you need to

1806
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:47.479
<v Speaker 1>be educated. This is what they've done to your people.

1807
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>This is what they're doing to us. We need to change.

1808
01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:53.279
<v Speaker 2>We need to start doing that effectively. That's what I'm

1809
01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:55.720
<v Speaker 2>saying education. But that's what we do here on this show.

1810
01:45:56.760 --> 01:46:00.520
<v Speaker 2>We have to build a populace that actually looks at

1811
01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the establishment until unless there is unless there is an

1812
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:06.319
<v Speaker 2>establishment that actually gives a damn about the populace.

1813
01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>You have to build a populace that actually gives a damn.

1814
01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:11.319
<v Speaker 2>About the populace. And we do not have that here

1815
01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:14.399
<v Speaker 2>in the United States. Our populace treats the government like

1816
01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>celebrity saviors. And so I see people in the chat

1817
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:21.279
<v Speaker 2>who are like, well, this is you know where we

1818
01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:22.800
<v Speaker 2>are right now. So we just have to deal with

1819
01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:24.920
<v Speaker 2>where we are right now. That is what has been

1820
01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:28.319
<v Speaker 2>being said forever. We just have to deal with whatever

1821
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:32.039
<v Speaker 2>we are now. Words quite honestly, a very self centered mindset.

1822
01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And the truth is is that a lot of y'all

1823
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:35.119
<v Speaker 2>are not gonna die for shit.

1824
01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So when when when? And when Shola, when doctor Sla.

1825
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Big mamou Is Babimo is saying, you know, we need

1826
01:46:44.359 --> 01:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>people with a light, I'm gonna tell you I disagree.

1827
01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it's that you need people with a light

1828
01:46:50.079 --> 01:46:55.439
<v Speaker 2>and who are willing to go out for this. And

1829
01:46:55.560 --> 01:46:57.720
<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing whether it's death or whether it's

1830
01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>career or death. If we had a if we had

1831
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:02.920
<v Speaker 2>people willing to go into government and turn up and

1832
01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:05.760
<v Speaker 2>get kicked out, this would have been not a problem.

1833
01:47:06.039 --> 01:47:08.399
<v Speaker 2>The problem is that we get people like Jasmin Kraft

1834
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>is a great example, who go in, they have a

1835
01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:13.479
<v Speaker 2>spark about them, they have a desire to really shake

1836
01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:16.960
<v Speaker 2>shit up. But then they get enamored with access, they

1837
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:21.479
<v Speaker 2>get enamored with being that girl, they get enamored with

1838
01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the with the thought process that maybe I can change things,

1839
01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:28.359
<v Speaker 2>and so their mission shifts and they become a part

1840
01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:31.319
<v Speaker 2>of the establishment versus as just the wrench thrown in

1841
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to mess it up.

1842
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:35.159
<v Speaker 1>And until we have people willing to.

1843
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Not only do that, but a community to catch them

1844
01:47:37.960 --> 01:47:40.439
<v Speaker 2>when they come out and know that they don't have

1845
01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:41.920
<v Speaker 2>to still be a part of the because that's the

1846
01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:45.520
<v Speaker 2>other part if the community outside, it's still tethered to

1847
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:48.359
<v Speaker 2>that establishment. Then then when that person falls out, they're

1848
01:47:48.439 --> 01:47:51.000
<v Speaker 2>still not able to find their way. This is what

1849
01:47:51.159 --> 01:47:53.960
<v Speaker 2>happens with prison. People go into prison. They should be

1850
01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>able to do their time and come back to society

1851
01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:56.399
<v Speaker 2>and live.

1852
01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:01.039
<v Speaker 1>They can't. Society has completely walls up not able to

1853
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:01.479
<v Speaker 1>help them.

1854
01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:04.079
<v Speaker 2>So all I'm suggesting is that we have to take

1855
01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>a very pragmatic look at what destabilizing really is and

1856
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:15.039
<v Speaker 2>understanding that it is going to destabilize not only the

1857
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:20.159
<v Speaker 2>system but us for a time. And that destabilization is

1858
01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:24.399
<v Speaker 2>what gets people saying, well, let's just still do this

1859
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.920
<v Speaker 2>little part because it feels crazy to change a methodology

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01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:30.159
<v Speaker 2>that has been ingrained in us.

1861
01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:36.439
<v Speaker 1>And with that, please tell people about the book. All right,

1862
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>give med my book. This is why I resist, Yes, yes, yes,

1863
01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>So this is why I resist. Is my conversation about

1864
01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the real issues we face, about the way our identity

1865
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:53.720
<v Speaker 1>as black people is constantly malign marginalized, commoditized, and criminalized.

1866
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>This is me saying I could not give a rap sauce.

1867
01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:00.119
<v Speaker 1>This is me saying, every single time you bring this

1868
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, this is what I'm going to do to you.

1869
01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>This is me saying, like I will stand in the

1870
01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>roots to you know, to the root of my gore.

1871
01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>In fact, at the beginning, if I may just read

1872
01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>something quickly that that I felt, I kind of like,

1873
01:49:16.439 --> 01:49:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I felt like this kind of encapsulates where where I

1874
01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:23.039
<v Speaker 1>am and here I go. I stand on the shoulders

1875
01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of greatness as my ancestors before me. I will not

1876
01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.439
<v Speaker 1>be silenced. I will not be silent. If you come

1877
01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for me, I will come for you. This is why

1878
01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I resist. That's I mean. It pretty much sums up

1879
01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:39.199
<v Speaker 1>my where I am at in the way that I

1880
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:43.439
<v Speaker 1>view and I've observed, and I intend to fight what

1881
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:48.760
<v Speaker 1>is clearly a concerted effort to continually, you know, destroy

1882
01:49:49.039 --> 01:49:52.199
<v Speaker 1>black people and the way that our identity is weaponized

1883
01:49:52.199 --> 01:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>against us. I don't have time for that, BS. I

1884
01:49:55.039 --> 01:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to say, you know, you know,

1885
01:49:56.920 --> 01:49:59.079
<v Speaker 1>earlier I talked about what it is to be black

1886
01:49:59.399 --> 01:50:02.319
<v Speaker 1>in Britain, and I want to be able to say

1887
01:50:02.520 --> 01:50:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I am this. I am African from the roots of

1888
01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>my hair to the soles of my feet. People don't

1889
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:12.359
<v Speaker 1>get it wrong, and yes I'm British, but don't tell

1890
01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:15.159
<v Speaker 1>me how I should be British, same way nobody should

1891
01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>tell you how you should be American and were native

1892
01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:22.119
<v Speaker 1>how American and you know wherever else you you know

1893
01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:26.119
<v Speaker 1>your heritage is. Then it's all I'm sick and tired

1894
01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>of the women that we are constantly, constantly addressed. And

1895
01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:34.159
<v Speaker 1>that's what this book does. It touches on political activism.

1896
01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>It touches definitely on our identity as as women, and

1897
01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:44.039
<v Speaker 1>especially when you think about how feminism. You know, feminism

1898
01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:48.479
<v Speaker 1>is often weaponized against us when you include us. Right,

1899
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:52.199
<v Speaker 1>So I talk all this and using personal anecdotes as well,

1900
01:50:52.479 --> 01:50:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying list said, people, you come from me,

1901
01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I will come for you. I don't have time, I

1902
01:50:57.720 --> 01:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>do not come to me. I'm ready for the fight,

1903
01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and you hear it in my voice. I am ready

1904
01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>for the part because I've seen too many people be

1905
01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:09.399
<v Speaker 1>persecuted just because they're different, and I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have it all right, y'all, that's another book club book.

1907
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:14.399
<v Speaker 2>They started a whole book club. Didn't even tell me,

1908
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:18.359
<v Speaker 2>thank you Sheila so much for joining us, and probably

1909
01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:21.359
<v Speaker 2>all got a whole treat right there, because that was

1910
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:24.720
<v Speaker 2>a solid two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, god, we were having a party. We're

1912
01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>having fun. We agreed, we disagreed, it's all good. Thank

1913
01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:37.039
<v Speaker 1>you for having me in Amandoland. Yes, that was a

1914
01:51:37.159 --> 01:52:05.520
<v Speaker 1>treat y'all. That was a treat not banion.

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<v Speaker 2>H
