1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: What is up Velasiko's I Am Dan Valley coming at 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,400 you with mister mort Jensen of the NBA Podcast, fame 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,359 of Yahoo Sports, fame of eight Po, Mac Max Fame, 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,280 and of course OnlyFans celebrity. We are beginning our trade 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,160 deadline primers for every single team in the NBA. Multiple 6 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:25,760 sources have told Hardwoodknox that there are in fact thirty 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,480 of them, and so we will put out thirty of these. 8 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:31,559 They'll be combined on audio, individual clips on YouTube. Bounce around, 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,799 check them out, share them. We appreciate every single one. 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,439 We start with the San Antonio Spurs. But first, more, 11 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:38,600 how the heck are you doing? 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: I am doing well, sir, doing well. A little under 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,880 a month to the trade deadline, which means this is 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,880 my time to shine. I always do so much work 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,159 during this phase because trades are fun and roster construction 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,320 is fun. It's also one of the things that people 17 00:00:56,479 --> 00:00:59,679 just lean into, which I think is wonderful. I'm not 18 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:02,119 one of those people who, you know, pooh pooh the 19 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:04,920 way people absorb in PA content. If you're into the 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,319 trade stuff, the roster construction stuff, that's just as cool 21 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,000 as being into the actual game stuff. So I love this. 22 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:12,959 I love this time of year. This is my sort 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:13,560 of Christmas. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the Spurs. 25 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: So they're going to be one of the more fascinating 26 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:22,519 teams because I think they're much better than people expected. 27 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:25,120 And they're not only are they much better, people are 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,400 pegging them as the biggest threat to OKAYC already. And 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,079 this is a team that still has a boatload of 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,439 flexibility and assets and just to go through their vitals 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,040 to start their trade deadline vitals as we will call them. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,359 They are five point seven million dollars beneath the luxury 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,319 tax and when looking at notable picks, they have swap 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,760 rights with Atlanta this year. They own Atlanta's twenty twenty 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,280 seven first outright. They have swap rights with Boston in 36 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:56,439 twenty twenty eight. There's top one protection on that. They 37 00:01:56,439 --> 00:02:00,480 have swap rights with both Dallas and Minnesota in two 38 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:02,439 thousand and thirty, So they're basically just going to receive 39 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:04,959 the most favorable pick of their own Dallases and the 40 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:07,879 Wolves in two thousand and thirty. And I don't know, 41 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:10,680 this might be the crown jewel of their swaps more 42 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:14,680 that twenty thirty one Sacramento Kings swap, and I keep 43 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,719 seeing before we kind of just get into what's next 44 00:02:17,719 --> 00:02:21,439 for the Spurs, I keep seeing all this stuff about, well, 45 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:23,759 the Spurs trade offers might not be as strong as 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,360 you think because they're going to be so good with 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Wemby and whoever they have, And look at Dylan Harper, 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,199 Steph Castle, Deearn Fox. 49 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: Their picks have no value. 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: They've got swaps set up in basically every single year 51 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:38,759 that kind of mitigate the damage there. And before I 52 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:41,560 don't think I really fully appreciated it until I was 53 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:44,400 putting together their trade deadline vitals of. 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,879 Speaker 3: No like they have. But no, not all of these 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,039 are going to be gold stars. 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Boston could be great in twenty twenty eight, but all 57 00:02:52,599 --> 00:02:55,000 you could talk yourself into any single one of feast 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,960 just being somewhat intriguing. And so I think if the 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,120 Spurs want to do something, they have the ability to 60 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:01,840 go out and do it. 61 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that is so important to note. 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,120 That is why I keep having them as a yanis 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,159 on Sotakumbu destination. 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: I think that is. 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Ooh, can we can we actually start there? 67 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: Is? 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,159 Speaker 1: Do you think that they should still be like Yannis 69 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:20,759 ad but more so Yannis. I think a lot of 70 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:22,159 people have just said, know they're out of it, They're 71 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:24,360 not going to trade Steph Castle or Dylan Harper, and 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,240 so that's going to be that do you view if 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 you're the Spurs and you're on like, do you look 74 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,479 at yourself and say, we're not making this decision mid season? 75 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:35,759 Maybe we were visited over the summer, because I kind 76 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:39,039 of I understand at this point why they would take 77 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:41,120 that as someone who said I would trade one of 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Harper for Castle to get Yannis. 79 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:45,599 Speaker 3: I think a push comes to shoven. 80 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Giannice is getting moved. Now you're having a conversation as 81 00:03:48,039 --> 00:03:50,599 the Spurs. That's It's not the front office isn't considerate. 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,560 They would considerate, but I understand the impetus of well, 83 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:56,599 let's just see what we have and recalibrate for something 84 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,039 like this over the off season. 85 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: So they are multiple facts to play here. 86 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:04,479 Speaker 2: First and foremost, Daron Fox is getting a pretty heavy 87 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:07,840 race going into next season. There are also two major 88 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:10,439 expiring contracts in Harrison Barnes to Kelly Linnok that you 89 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:12,639 have to take account for because if you lose them, 90 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,960 you're kind of looking at that situation saying, oh, okay, 91 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,600 we don't have as many expiring money coming off the books, 92 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:22,560 Like how do we go about this? There's also this 93 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:25,800 is this won't affect things right now, but this summer, 94 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:30,160 unless you know, the Holy gates of Hell open up 95 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,160 and everyone is swallowed in, Victoriama is going to get 96 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:38,360 a max extension. So we're looking at some a situation 97 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:42,360 where everything right now, they have some benefits that works 98 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:45,600 on their behalf going into the trade upline? Do I 99 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,399 think that they are necessarily on the Giannis Antokumpo idea 100 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,120 right now? 101 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: Not necessarily. 102 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: I think they're open minded to it, because who wouldn't be, 103 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,560 But it's fair to wonder what is that package as well? 104 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Like are they willing to give up Dylan Harper and 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,560 Steffan Castle given how good both actually look? Are they 106 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:07,240 instead going to make an offer that is primarily build 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,240 on expiring contracts and just a crapload of the draft 108 00:05:10,319 --> 00:05:14,879 picture just riled up there. It's we'll see what happens, 109 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:19,639 But I think it feels like something is kind of 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,519 boiling there a little bit. It feels like they're still 111 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:27,839 like thinking about one last move before Wemby hit like 112 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,720 his extension kicks in, which will be twenty twenty seven, 113 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 and I wonder if they're thinking Giannis or they're thinking 114 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,000 a little bit small scale. That's but again it's the Spurs. 115 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:41,000 They keep things so close to their vest. 116 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: We have no freaking glue, right, And I think that 117 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,879 kind of leads into what do you think their biggest 118 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,720 need is before getting into like the type of aggression, 119 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:53,959 because you could say it's I've kind of defaulted to. 120 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,680 It'd be cool to just upgrade the frontline partner minutes 121 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,279 for Wemby. Harrison Barnes has been great. Julian Champenni is awesome, 122 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,439 but do they need someone who's better in that spot. 123 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they need a wing big basically, they need someone 124 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:12,560 like So I'm just gonna use him as a placeholder 125 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,319 because I think I don't think he aligns h wise, 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,120 but I think his game would be perfect. They're like 127 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,519 an Ogan and Noobie type, a big wing who can 128 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:23,680 play the three the four, and it doesn't really matter 129 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:25,879 which of those two he plays like. He's just so 130 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,160 interchangeable in those things where he affects the defense. He 131 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,680 comes in with a high level of three point capability. 132 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:36,000 You know, you need someone of that ilk and so 133 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,040 I would say the wing with the added notion that 134 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:41,600 the wing could be a four as well. 135 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I also could see I would agree with that, And 136 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:47,680 I also kind of wonder if just I would like 137 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,319 to see this team index a little bit more on 138 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,839 shooting too. So you don't want it ideally, you don't 139 00:06:52,879 --> 00:06:54,680 want that to come in the form of a of 140 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,680 a small guard to be fair, but someone like he 141 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,839 doesn't fit this defensive motif of what you were saying. 142 00:06:59,879 --> 00:07:02,800 But if they were to be ultra aggressive, Trey Murphy 143 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,920 would be awesome here. But they could even go I 144 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,199 think if you're just looking like that's the other thing 145 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:12,319 that they could do is you mentioned them maybe going 146 00:07:12,439 --> 00:07:14,959 a little smaller, like not going after a marquee name, 147 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,160 whether it's a you know, you said og Anoobe type 148 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,199 or if it's Trey Murphy exactly do you just go 149 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:23,000 and look at, oh, is Boston looking to get rid 150 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,199 of a Sam Hauser, Like do you just want that 151 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:28,199 type of forward lever shooter to come off the bench? 152 00:07:28,279 --> 00:07:29,759 Speaker 3: Is that something they could do? 153 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:32,079 Speaker 1: I also thought, you're not gonna like this one, but 154 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,120 they were to go all in route, and I think 155 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,879 this is the one where it's picks and contracts you're 156 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:40,879 not looking at. Giving Dylan Harper Jared Jackson Junior makes 157 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,519 some sense there, So. 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,079 Speaker 2: I know you're setting me up for something here, But honestly, 159 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:48,439 I think I've told you this before. That is probably 160 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,560 one of the teams where I wouldn't mind Jared Jackson 161 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,079 Junior all that much because when you think about it, 162 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:56,920 his front court partner in Wimby, there saws a lot 163 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,839 of the issues that he brings to the table, Like 164 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:02,920 there's a real argument to be had that if some 165 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,839 of his weaknesses gets negated by someone else, you know, 166 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:07,959 he can really focus in on the things that he's 167 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,639 good at, three point shooting, help side defense, all these 168 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 things like that. The defensive front court there in Jaron 169 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:18,000 Jackson Junior and Wemby would be ridiculous and the inside 170 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,879 outside capabilities of though those two offensively would also be 171 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:26,360 super intriguing. The rebounding issues for JJJ wouldn't be, as 172 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:30,519 I guess obvious, because you have Wemby there. You have 173 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,840 a lot of guards who come in and crist the class, 174 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 like we've seen Stefan Gassel have a great year on 175 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:40,000 the glass as well, like they have rebounders, so it's 176 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,159 not something I would hate. I think there are better 177 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,879 solutions out there. But if they go the JJJ route 178 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,679 and they get him cheap and they don't relinquish one 179 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,519 of Dylan Harper or Stefan Castle, that's where I think 180 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,639 I would agree with you that it becomes interesting. 181 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: I've seen that mentioned a lot for lowry marketing, and 182 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:03,200 while the fit. If I'm the Spurs and I'm thinking 183 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,840 about making an all Inish type play, I don't know. 184 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:08,559 I guess if you said, oh, you can just get 185 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:11,720 him for contracts and picks, but I don't know if 186 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:14,480 that's the guy I want to burn those assets on. 187 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,879 I'd rather wait and see how the Yana situation whether 188 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:19,120 I want I want Janis over the summer or wait 189 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:22,519 and see how that situation plays out. No question, he'd 190 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:24,600 be an excellent fit in San Antonio, but the cost 191 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,960 of getting him, I think for them specifically, I prefer 192 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,759 to go wait on Giannis or try to go with 193 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:32,080 the Trey Murphy route or something along those lines. 194 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: Right. 195 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,919 Speaker 2: I even disagree with your Sam Houser thing because I 196 00:09:34,919 --> 00:09:37,360 wouldn't go that route. I want if I'm the Spurs, 197 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,519 I'm looking at Wempy and I'm thinking I have literally 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,000 a generational defender here. It would be, in my opinion, 199 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,279 it would be the best possible move to identify two 200 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:53,279 way players or players who lean defensively here because you 201 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,399 don't want to give Wempy more work. That's really what 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,840 you don't want to do. You want to maximize his 203 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:03,240 capabilities and then pair him with a lot of capable defenders. 204 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,879 That's what you want. If I'm the Spurs in under 205 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,000 no circumstance, do I go into the trade market and 206 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,440 look at guys who are defensively compromised? 207 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 4: Is probably the best phrase I can come up with. 208 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,919 Speaker 1: You do want someone you don't think that you I mean, 209 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,039 just between Dylan Harper and Steph Castle, Louke Cornett is 210 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:25,879 there as well. You don't think that they have a 211 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,799 margin for error. I mean, if we're talking about go 212 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,720 get Trey Young or go get Jordan Clarkson, someone who's 213 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:37,000 just a complete like negative. But I think they would 214 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,360 have room for a shooter with like Corey Kispert, just 215 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,159 a shooter that would have size to where that offset 216 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,080 some of the liability that they pose. 217 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: It feels like this. 218 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: Team because you're just I know you don't want extra 219 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:50,039 work for Wemby, but if Wemby's on the court, and 220 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,039 especially if those minutes overlap with Steph Castle, that's just your. 221 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:55,159 Speaker 3: Defense is top five during those minutes done? 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,879 Speaker 2: True? True, But I want to make it even easier 223 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:00,639 for them to actually have it. So I'm Spurs. I'm 224 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:02,480 thinking long term. I'm not just thinking how to get 225 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,480 into the playoffs. I'm not thinking about the first round, 226 00:11:04,519 --> 00:11:07,360 the second round. I'm I'm thinking championships. I have to 227 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:11,879 be thinking championships. And if you have to game plan 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,600 your way out of having you know, primarily shooters on 229 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:17,840 the floor, or not primarily but having a non defensive 230 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,559 shooter on the floor, then I think you're adding unnecessary 231 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,320 concerns to the whole thing. So again, you brought up 232 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,840 Trey Murphy, so I understand that Trey Murphy is not 233 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:32,320 necessarily a lockdown defender. He is someone who I think, 234 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,679 in this current concept of the current Spurs roster, would 235 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:42,000 elevate a pretty significant market defensively while also being you know, 236 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:46,320 a very potent spot up shooter. So like he's a 237 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,679 perfect example of someone who can come in not hurt 238 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,320 their defense and add to something offensively. So I'm not 239 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,919 saying you need to be Ochi and Anobi. He was 240 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,679 just a placeholder, Like you don't have to be that 241 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,080 good defensively, you just need to be someone one that 242 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:04,320 the opponent team can't really game plan around and say, hey, 243 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,120 we're gonna teck that guy again and again and again, 244 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,399 which I think would be the case with Sam House 245 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,320 and LRD Marketing. And by the way, we're I'm talking 246 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,399 down Sam House's defense. Actually think he's a little bit 247 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,039 underrated in that category. 248 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: That was the thing that called it wasn't even Sam 249 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:21,080 Houser's specific was if we trying to think of just 250 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,080 like what would like Buddy go get Buddy heal, Like 251 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,200 I could see your reservations there for someone right along 252 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,879 those lines. The other thing that I've kind of wondered 253 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,879 is and we haven't seen a ton of it, and 254 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:33,120 the offense hasn't been great during these stretches, but the 255 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,639 Wemby Cornett lineups are just I mean, opponents are shooting 256 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,639 under forty two percent at the rim when those threw 257 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,120 on the floor together. Have you given any consideration to 258 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,559 I guess Giannis falls into this bucket a little bit, 259 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,799 as would Triple J. But not really have you given 260 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:48,840 any consideration to, well, what if they just went out 261 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:51,759 and got someone who might like Lou Cornett skews more 262 00:12:51,759 --> 00:12:54,480 of a center. But what if you upgraded from Lou 263 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,759 Cornett and thought about doing that? Or do you think 264 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:01,360 that marginalizes what Wemby does, what makes him such a 265 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,720 nightmare on the offensive en specifically too much? 266 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,039 Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting. 267 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,919 Speaker 2: Uh, well, first thing is first, because now I have 268 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 an opportunity to just lay myself flat down on the 269 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:12,519 on the earth and say, yeah, I was wrong about 270 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,080 Luke Cornett. I thought that was an overpay of a contract. 271 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,360 Turns out wasn't. 272 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:17,759 Speaker 1: Wasn't. 273 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:18,759 Speaker 4: He's been fantastic. 274 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: I love the fact that you have a guy who 275 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:24,879 come in and started that capacity as well when wemp 276 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,759 is out, because again, you know, we don't know what 277 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:32,120 his future holds in terms of injuries, health concerns, whatever. 278 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,720 So I think having a guy like Luke Cornette who 279 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,559 can come in and just absorb those minutes is absolutely crucial. 280 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: When you say. 281 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: Upgrade from him, I probably need a name. 282 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:45,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 283 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like what Isaiah Hartenstein's not going to become available. 284 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Trying to think about. But if that's a good shout though, 285 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,799 that's a good upgrade name. Okay, so here's here's something. 286 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,039 I mean, some of these are all in bullets, some 287 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,200 of them are not. But BAM is availed at the deadline. 288 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:04,480 Is that something you investigate? Or what if Jared Allen 289 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,480 stumbles on? He's been playing better of late, but what 290 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:09,879 if he stumbles on? Yeah, to the chopping block. I 291 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,799 go back and forth because it certainly depends on the 292 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:16,519 play right. For sure, I'd be more intrigued by BAM 293 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,080 than Jared Allen for obvious reasons. But Jared Allen also 294 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,919 comes a lot cheaper when you're looking at the asset 295 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,200 opportunity costs. 296 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,919 Speaker 2: So you saw my reaction when you said BAM. I 297 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,159 was like, Oh, that could be fun, But I'm only 298 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,320 thinking defensively. Now I started thinking offensively, and I look. 299 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:37,879 I love Bam as a player. I do think it's 300 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:44,360 fair to say offensively, he is so far below where 301 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,799 he should be in terms of like what he can do. 302 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,759 I think like the he takes so many off angle 303 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:55,039 shots that are like off the dribble, where I'm just 304 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,840 constantly perplexed of a shot selection. And I hate how 305 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,320 you'll go in and out of games just being completely passive, 306 00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:05,559 Like he'll have a stretch where he averages like twenty four, 307 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,679 then he'll follow that up by seven games of averaging twelve. 308 00:15:08,799 --> 00:15:11,879 I just I need someone who's at least a little 309 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:18,519 bit more offensively consistent, I would say, but defensively, Oh God, yes. 310 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:18,919 Speaker 4: I love it. 311 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,159 Speaker 1: I do wonder though, in San Antonio, where you have 312 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,200 three sometimes four guards, depending on what Devin Vessel's doing 313 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,240 that night, who just consistently can get defenses in rotation 314 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,559 two feet in the paint. Does that just make like 315 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:34,279 Bam doesn't have that in Miami right now? He's maybe 316 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,679 two of those guys in Norm Powell and Jimi Hawk's 317 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,799 Junior because that's not really Tyler Hero's game, and one 318 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,919 of them in himI hawk as Junior is just such 319 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,399 a paint like such a shooting liability, excuse me, right, 320 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,200 and then Bam and khalil Ware just have that. The 321 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,679 other thing you could point to, though, is Bam and 322 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,559 khalil Ware haven't exactly meshed offensively. Is there a reason 323 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:56,159 to believe that him and Wemby would do a lot better, 324 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,559 And I think it comes down to you just trust 325 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:01,480 the guard play in San Antonio more than the guard 326 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,440 play in Miami, and I probably do, but again, the 327 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,360 amount of assets you need to expend to get there. 328 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: I totally understand your offensive qualms. 329 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: You just brought up, Devin Vessel. I want to have 330 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,080 this conversation as well. Is he someone who should be 331 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:20,080 open in terms of like as a trade candidate. I 332 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,159 like him a fair bit, but it seems like his 333 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,840 role over the past year and a half or something 334 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:29,120 like that has wobbled a little bit, and like he's 335 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,559 not earning that much money twenty seven million this year, 336 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:34,440 and I think he's actually on twenty seven million every 337 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,759 year with outside of the first year of Weepy's contract, 338 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:38,519 which was a smart play by this first by the way, 339 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:41,399 whereas contract decreases to twenty four point six, So like, 340 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,279 he's by no means expensive. But at the same time, 341 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:50,000 I'm wondering if he should be like one of their 342 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:53,759 primary scoring off guards or if you're looking at an 343 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,759 upgrade at that spot. Because I go back and forth 344 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:58,679 on this, like I don't have a set opinion, so 345 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,080 I'm wondering what your perspective is. 346 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been pretty up and down. 347 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,759 Speaker 1: It feels like since Thanksgiving for the most part, and 348 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:07,519 over the past month his efficiency has not been great. Specifically, 349 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,880 I could see it, but that again feels unless Yannis 350 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,240 is on the table. Like I not that I only 351 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,559 view san Antonio's lens through Yiannis, but if you're talking 352 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:20,039 about one of the bigger salaries or bigger prospect names 353 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:25,079 in Harper, Castle, Vaselle and then Fox, those more so 354 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,279 feel like off season decisions to where you recalibrate you 355 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:31,920 get into the playoffs. He would all I mean, Devin Vassell, 356 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,960 has he even been in the playoffs before? 357 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: We know? 358 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: Fox has, Castle, Wemby and Harper have not. And so 359 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:40,720 I think that type of decision unless you're talking about 360 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:43,599 Giannis or is there a big name that I mean, like, 361 00:17:43,599 --> 00:17:47,240 should they be poking around the Anthony Davis sweepstakes? That'd 362 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:48,640 be intriguing Defensively, I don't love it. 363 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: Offensively, I'm with you there, I am yeah, no, And 364 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,680 I want to I want to just say because I 365 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,039 just today published something over at Joahoo Sports about Anthony 366 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Davis and I basically said, whoever you are, don't trade 367 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:02,920 for him. There's just so many red flags. The contract, 368 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,160 the age, the lack of availability. 369 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: Just no. 370 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,559 Speaker 2: So whenever you bring up ad for every single team 371 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,839 they're work going to do together, I'm just gonna say, no, no, 372 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:17,000 don't just do not trade for anythingy Davis. Let Dallas 373 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:20,519 deal with that, because then you know, to a certain extent, 374 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:24,319 here's here's one less team that we have to be 375 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,000 worried about. 376 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:28,519 Speaker 1: This will probably lead me into some more targets. But 377 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:32,759 you're running the Spurs. Yes, given everything you've seen this season, 378 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,000 knowing what's already in place, knowing what you think they need, 379 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:40,720 how aggressive are you actually being heading into this trade deadline? 380 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:45,079 Speaker 2: So this what they've done this year isn't something that 381 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:47,799 has changed my mind at all in terms of being aggressive, 382 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:49,920 because before the season I actually said it wouldn't be 383 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,839 surprised Toy won fifty to fifty five games. 384 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: You know what to shout out to you, because to 385 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,119 your credit, I trolled the ever living hell out of 386 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,559 you for when you said it. 387 00:18:58,599 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: I might have been taking the Spurs on. 388 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it got high high enough for 389 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,519 me to take the under, but I didn't have them 390 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:07,039 as a top two threat in the Western Conference and 391 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:09,799 they're within striking distance of doing just that. While by 392 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:12,200 the way they've been in net even this year with 393 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,519 Wemby off the floor, that's insane. 394 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: It's and that I didn't anticipate, by the way, I 395 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,920 want to say that, but I did. I did think 396 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,920 everyone was sleeping too much on TIERN Fox and also 397 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,599 the development of Stefan Castle because everyone had sort of 398 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,759 taken the whole Oh, he won Rookie of the Year 399 00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:31,039 in a bad class, like he wasn't really that good. 400 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:34,039 I've been watching a lot of persons when we came 401 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:36,319 into the league because I decided, you know, I need 402 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,839 to follow this dude until he retires. There was definitely 403 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,720 another layer for Castle that he reached that at certain 404 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:45,480 points last year, and I thought, you know, that's only 405 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,160 going to stabilize even more. But to your point, they 406 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,319 have surprised, Like I didn't see Kelton Johnson suddenly playing 407 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:56,759 out of his mind like this right, And I've said 408 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,559 this before, but it just it bears repeating to have 409 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,640 someone who he used to average twenty two points per 410 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,720 game completely embrace aventrol and lean into something like rebounding 411 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:08,400 just saying you know what I need to become a 412 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:11,519 much better rebound with them. Yeah, it's like it's so important, 413 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:14,440 it's so important. I also think, and I hate saying this, 414 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,240 I think it's important to just get Jeremy Sohan out 415 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,200 of the rotation. He's I like him, I don't like 416 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:22,119 him for the Spurs. 417 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he needs to be on a team where 418 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:29,440 I don't even know what I'm trying to think of 419 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,400 the team. That would make a ton of sense. But 420 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,920 there needs to be fewer ball handlers inside that rotation too. 421 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,680 I think have like even just his I know his 422 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,400 play finishing is important. Maybe you don't want the ball 423 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,680 in his hands, but the structure of the Spurs offense 424 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:44,519 just doesn't doesn't job for him. I think a lot 425 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:47,200 of the things you say are why I expect the 426 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,880 Spurs to be opportunistic get the trade deadline rather than 427 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,160 aggressive to where you look at and say, all right, 428 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,400 what can we get if we put Jeremy Sohan attach 429 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,559 him to Kelly Olnik And now you're talking about we 430 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,039 could get a twenty plus million dollar player for that amount, 431 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:05,599 and so what can you poke around and do? Their 432 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,759 one of the targets and he's not being mentioned in rumors. 433 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:10,440 I don't think this team wants to trade him, but 434 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,640 I doubt he's completely off limits. You would be a 435 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,000 really good fit for this team. You're catering towards the future. 436 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,960 We're not talking about someone you go all in on. 437 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:20,599 But I think he fits the current and future structure 438 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:23,200 of the team. Jalen Wells will make a lot of 439 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,599 sense for them. YEA, throwing him on the wing. I 440 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:27,960 don't know what Memphis appetite for moving him would be, 441 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,400 but now they do have Cedric toward and their timeline 442 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,599 is just I don't under I don't really know what 443 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Memphis end game is, to be honest with you, But 444 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:36,119 could they do. 445 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: I think that's a good question we should make. Maybe 446 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,960 we should ask them. 447 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: So I think that's what we'll kind of see them do, 448 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:46,640 is how do we kind of have it both ways 449 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,920 to where if they do, maybe they ultimately decide they 450 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000 don't even need to make a bigger move because it 451 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:52,599 turns out there they go to the playoffs, they make 452 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,680 the conference finals or something. But right now, with a 453 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,720 little bit of room beneath the tacks, a linux at 454 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,160 what thirteen point four and if you put Jeremy Sohan 455 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,960 in that. I mean, you're at twenty one million right there, 456 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,200 so you could take back someone making twenty five. Does 457 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,160 that get you to Trey Murphy already? If that was 458 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,079 just the package plus all the picks, so you could 459 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,079 do something like that, yeah, that would that would. 460 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:15,559 Speaker 3: Be enough to get Gray Murphy. 461 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? Do you even need to add all the picks? 462 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,160 It's silicans. 463 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: I do think that Trey Murphy is the one player 464 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,960 that they properly value, So there is that, but I 465 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,759 think that would be and it's probably not even both 466 00:22:31,759 --> 00:22:33,400 of them, to be honest. It might just be, well, 467 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,079 what can we get for Jeremy so Han's number? What 468 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:38,680 can we get for olynux number? Because at this point 469 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,920 I don't even think they want to or will touch 470 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,759 the Keldon Johnson Devin Vessel contracts either. 471 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: It's there's a name out there that is no longer 472 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,880 And I don't think he was ever particularly like realistic, 473 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,640 but it's certainly less realistic now that they became better 474 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,799 this year. I have this thing where I wouldn't be 475 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:02,519 sure if the Spurs had made a play, if the 476 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,960 Raptress had been bad enough for Scottie Barnes, like someone 477 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,480 who could just come in and be you know, the 478 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,440 the that would. 479 00:23:08,319 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 3: Be a defensive terror next to. 480 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: Exactly, but like that is just so much on the 481 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,279 table now, right, But that was a guy that I 482 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,079 had for probably the last year or so, like just 483 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,759 in my mind circled at all this would be a 484 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:26,359 candidate that's going to come out of left field, and 485 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:29,720 like why not if like if the raptors were going 486 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,400 nowhere Messiah out of the door, maybe they were open 487 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,720 to it like I was. I was just not closing that. 488 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,039 Speaker 1: Door in terms of like in between names, just like 489 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,680 do you look at Royce O'Neill, do you look at 490 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,200 just trying to think of like what names bring to 491 00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:52,400 mind here? Do you look at Sadik Bay Bay look 492 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,799 at us Simpatico? Yeah, you want to be semi offensively 493 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,640 and you talk about stretching the floor around what they're doing. 494 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,440 And I think a lot of what he does for 495 00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:03,599 his current he would translate to San Antonio because of 496 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:04,400 all the ball handling. 497 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: I don't hate the idea of Ruy Hachimora. 498 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: No, why would you? Ruy's good. I mean here's the thing. Defensively, yeah, 499 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,240 he's not a game changer, but offensively when he gets 500 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,440 his feet set behind the three point line, or just 501 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,319 generally speaking, when he's fed the ball in the right 502 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,039 times and at the right opportunity. He's a wicked off 503 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,319 ball guy. But you know, he's playing with Lebron, with Luca, 504 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,039 with Austin Breeves. He's sort of become a bit of 505 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:37,839 a forgotten player. I think Ruey is drastically underrated in 506 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,799 many capacity. I don't think he's an All Star or anything, 507 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:44,519 but in the right system where it's not overly ball 508 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:48,240 dominant around him, or there's a larger willingness to find 509 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,039 him specifically as an offensive play finisher, yeah, I wouldn't 510 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:55,200 hate that whatsoever. I think he's good. 511 00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: What about what about Michael Porter Jr. 512 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,319 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm just, Yeah, the problem you have 513 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,079 to give up that's a Kel dinner Harrison Bars needs. 514 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:10,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not giving up good vibes for bad white vibes. 515 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:17,000 I just I'm just know it's unfair. Yeah, I'm just 516 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,960 I don't think he is the type of player that 517 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,119 organization looks after or or desires in any way. I 518 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,920 think if the player, I think would be interesting. But 519 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,000 you know how the spurs kind of work in that 520 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,960 regard like they they don't want all the off court things, 521 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:37,000 and I think they would if they could get Michael 522 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,599 Porter Junior without all the baggage. Sure, but I also 523 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,279 think they're realistic enough to know. 524 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: That's not Michael Porter Junior without all the baggage. 525 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, so, I guess to a certain extent, but 526 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:54,759 I think I think, honestly, Michael Porter Junior might be 527 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,119 easier to implement, just of the off ball gravity and 528 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,799 the off ball explosion. I still think cheaper to write 529 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,440 he's not yet right here? Yeah, yeah, because of what 530 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,200 we just talked about there, You and I are pretty 531 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:10,160 we like there. We like a certain guy from Chicago. 532 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,519 Whenever we talk about trades, we usually use him, Iodosumu. 533 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:19,319 I wonder if we were talking about floor spacing in 534 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,160 San Antonio, he should come super cheap. Like, I know 535 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,160 they have a ton of guards, but someone who's on 536 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,119 an expiring contract where the bulls aren't even sure if 537 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,279 they can retain him. You know, he's not really that, 538 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,920 He's not probably not gonna be that costly. Would he 539 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,680 be someone you could be interested in putting on that 540 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,319 roster and then sliding castle a little bit to the 541 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,039 wing to sort of just make it a little bit more. 542 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: I'd be interesting to see how Mitch Johnson games a 543 00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:51,440 rotation that has Fox, Castle, Visell Harper and a soon move. 544 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,880 And by the way, I would play all five of 545 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,039 them at once just to see what. 546 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: It's because I'm I'm kind of intrigued by Castle as 547 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,680 a wing a little bit. We haven't seen it a 548 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,920 whole bunch this year, but I want to see just 549 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,359 a little bit more of it. But to make that 550 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,319 just as tolerable, that was the word I was looking for. 551 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,319 You need to have another floor spacing presence there and 552 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,440 and someone who just plays calm under pressure and it's 553 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,559 good on Paul defensively and dossume, which just kind of 554 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,119 strikes the right note for me. 555 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: If the cost was Jeremy Sohan for Io assume U 556 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,200 you're just would you take the stab in the dark. 557 00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:30,519 Their salaries matchup almost pro Oh my god. Immediately, I 558 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,680 wonder if Chicago could talk themselves into a flyer on 559 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,640 so Han. It feels like there would be some overlap 560 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,559 with Modus bouzelis there? 561 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: What about so I'm just. 562 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,599 Speaker 1: If the Hawks are interested in Anthony Davis and they've 563 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:47,039 paid Jaren Johnson and Anthony Davis is gonna need an extension? 564 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,319 Doesn't Yaka Kongoo become available at all? How much are 565 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,359 you gonna invest in that front line? Because he has 566 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,519 two years left on his deal, but that'd be might 567 00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,680 be semi interesting, but like his three point shooting has 568 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,480 been kind of insane this year. 569 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,799 Speaker 2: See, I'm not gonna answer that because after this episode 570 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,880 we're gonna talk about the Hawks, and I have the Hawks, 571 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,880 so you're gonna take all my talking points away. 572 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,759 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that. 573 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,079 Speaker 1: You want this, you were gonna send on Yaka to 574 00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:15,240 the san Antonio not specific so you need to you 575 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,720 need to get your get your thoughts off in both spots. 576 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,559 Speaker 2: Not specifically san Antonio. But I'm just saying Onyeka is 577 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,279 a guy who I think should should get some some 578 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,799 trade buss going. Let's this is a teaser for the 579 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:29,680 second episode. 580 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: Uh, anyone else bring to mind for you? 581 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,039 Speaker 1: For saying like the in between names where it's not 582 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,279 we think san Antonio's gonna be opportunistic rather than aggressive, 583 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,839 which I think, by the way, is the right call 584 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,039 given this season has gone for them. 585 00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 4: I don't have. 586 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: Any of the in between names so to speak, because 587 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200 I don't honestly, I don't know if this is an 588 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,279 in between name. You you might better be the judge 589 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:54,640 of that. And I think he's gonna put it difficult 590 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,279 to acquire because the pistons are as good as they are. 591 00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,559 But I say as Steward is a guy who I've 592 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,279 teamly thought about, as you know, sort of a third 593 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:06,720 big type of situation in San Antonio. Could play the four, 594 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,160 can play the five. He has some floor space and capabilities. 595 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480 He's a good defender, he's a good rebounder. There's just 596 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:16,759 a lots to like there. He's that very tough minded individual, 597 00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:20,559 which I think they sort of lack in a playoff context. 598 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Someone who will fight the everlasting shit out of you 599 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,000 if you need it to, but doesn't have locker room issues. 600 00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:31,759 Is he a like a key acquisition or is he 601 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,640 kind of in that midsier we just talked about. 602 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: I think he has well so you could get to 603 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,359 his number without giving up any core players. But I 604 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,519 think if you're in the realm of oh, we need 605 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,720 to give up multiple first round picks for him. Is 606 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,440 that still an in between name? Probably not right right, 607 00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:49,920 just because and I've found Detroit. It's kind of a 608 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,759 classic example of well, no, he's valuable to a bunch 609 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,039 of other teams. He's so valuable to what they're doing 610 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,240 now though even while he's playing not as many minutes 611 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,279 a lot of other bigs that I'm curious if they 612 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:03,039 even put two first round picks on the table. I'd 613 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:04,720 be curious if Detroit even considers it. 614 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:07,079 Speaker 3: I don't think they would. 615 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,039 Speaker 2: Place less than a half per game, though, I mean, 616 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,519 I love him, but that is that is hard to justify, 617 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:16,200 like at the same time saying well, we won multiple 618 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:17,160 firsts for it. 619 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: God, say, san Antonio's first this year would be in 620 00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:21,440 it and that's not going to be anything special. And 621 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400 then he's going to get one of the flyers on 622 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,039 in Atlanta. Well, I guess they have swap rights with Atlanta, 623 00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:28,680 so it could be special this year too. But if 624 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,680 you were just to get Atlanta's twenty seven and then 625 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,759 a pick this year, is that is that enough for 626 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,640 you to move isaias like the Pistons are a top 627 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240 of the Eastern comment. That's a that that's the act 628 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,240 of a team that's selling. 629 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: And that's why I prefaced it by saying that I 630 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:46,519 would be shocked. I would I would be truly shocked 631 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,200 if they went in that direction the Pistons. 632 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: But that's that's the type of guy I'm looking for. 633 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: It's it's very frustrating that certain team's got good because 634 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000 it took a lot of the players I like for 635 00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:01,240 the Spurs just off the freaking table. But but Stewart 636 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,839 is one I've I've kind of pigeonholed for a while 637 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,039 on a. 638 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,119 Speaker 1: Lower end for them. Shpiema Kai Luke could be pretty good. 639 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,000 He's got some nice size for a shooter. They go 640 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,319 get a Julian Champenny's brother Justin Champagne, that would be 641 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,799 that'd be a home run. 642 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: That's a good contract though. I would imagine the Wizards 643 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,039 would want something out of silence. 644 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:26,079 Speaker 1: Right but like they also have they just have Keehan George. 645 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:28,000 I know he's heart right now, block cool BALI Will 646 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:29,680 Riley can win when they just have a bunch of 647 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,559 wing Jamir Watkins there, Corey Kisberg. 648 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:39,599 Speaker 2: Defensively, that man is yes, sick, yes he is, absolutely, 649 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,079 But offensively there are questions, sir. 650 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: I'd be curious. I know he's dealt with. 651 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: I think at the left ankle is at the left ankle, 652 00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:51,599 but he's not had the breakout year. I thought he 653 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,559 was going to injury related Terren Shannon Juniors. 654 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: I want to see some team take. 655 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: A flyer on him if he's interesting. The other thing 656 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,559 is if My decided to sell his numbers pretty high, 657 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920 so you would have to like Andrew Wiggins. I wouldn't 658 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,599 hate for this team, but if you have to go 659 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880 from Johnson to Harrison Barnes, I'd probably like it a 660 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,440 lot less. 661 00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:13,839 Speaker 3: John Collins doesn't do anything for me. The money's too 662 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,559 rich there. 663 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Look, they're gonna be opportunistic and I 664 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:18,599 think that's the way to go. 665 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,519 Speaker 3: And I think their need is pretty clear. 666 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: But they also have it feels like the rotation room 667 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,039 to take sort of the I don't want to called 668 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,079 a random swing, but like the name you mentioned where 669 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,839 it's oh, did we get io for Jeremy something like, yeah, 670 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,519 let's just go try that, like that just might work 671 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:32,039 out for us. 672 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: Do you have anything else on the Spurs. 673 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,279 Speaker 1: Or are you ready to tell everyone where you can 674 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:40,160 find they can find you and all the great work 675 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,559 that you do. 676 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty good on the Spurs. Honestly, Well, 677 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,480 you can find my work word red Yahoo Sports. 678 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,839 Speaker 4: You can listen to DMPA podcast. 679 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: If you speak Danish or understand Danish, you can listen 680 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,680 to bus Reader or catch me calling games on HBO 681 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:59,759 Speaker 1: Mex Until next time, and as always, weat with a shout 682 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400 out to the one, the only, the indelible, another San 683 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Antonio Spurs free agency target, mister Frank HeLa Tina