WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:03.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:08.080 Fox Sports fourteenth fifth day, powered by Nova Insurance Services 3 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.480 ensure your most prized possessiets. 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:12.800 Andy. 5 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.039 Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here 6 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:17.679 on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. In with 7 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.760 me today is a long time friend Cody Ritchie. 8 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:23.000 Yeah, what thirty thirty five years about? 9 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:25.239 Did you get hear? Like summer of eighty seven? 10 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:26.239 Summer of eighty seven? 11 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.359 So that so hop's me too, So we probably met 12 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:29.399 a little while after that. 13 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:31.320 Yeah, I think you're like a month older than me. 14 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.640 Oh okay, no, what needs to do? 15 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:35.679 But we still are young. 16 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.240 Yeah, and Henry running the board today, so we should 17 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:42.840 go smoothly. Did you think thirty seven years ago, thirty 18 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:46.359 seven years ago you'd be in a situation you're in, 19 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:48.439 position wise and stuff like that. Life? 20 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.159 You know, I don't know, I mean, I'm I mean, 21 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.399 I don't know. I mean happy, I've alwa happy you. 22 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.679 You can't buy happiness, man, you know what I'm saying. 23 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.560 If you're happy, more powered to you, because his happiness 24 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:01.479 is tough to come by. 25 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:02.399 Yeah. 26 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:07.319 Well, I always kiddy, Steve, because I always like smile Steve, going. 27 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.120 Back when right, I'm smiling inside, you don't need to 28 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:10.719 see you. 29 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.439 You're smiling now, But even back then, I mean, I 30 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:15.439 don't know if if And a lot of the guys 31 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.400 that we knew back then too have been like school teachers. 32 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.239 My one friend Eric, who you knew Nember. Eric, he's 33 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.120 a he retired as a school teacher. Now he's a 34 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:25.599 school bus driver. And I think he's the happiest guy 35 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:27.840 I've ever known in my life because he has half 36 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.680 a day off and he golfs all the time. And so, 37 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.519 I mean, I knew that I wanted to do something. 38 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:34.000 I thought I was. 39 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.239 Gonna You were you were? What were you at you 40 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:37.359 at that time? 41 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.400 Well, I went to University of Wyoming, got you green business, 42 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.319 and came to u of A and to get back 43 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:45.159 then they had a sports administration program. 44 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.959 So you were in your grad student, yes, make you 45 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:50.719 and then you were there till when did you get 46 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:51.359 that degree? 47 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:55.439 Ninety ninety one? Oh a little bit, yeah, okay, ninety 48 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.200 because the first six months I didn't do that. I 49 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.760 was doing something different, and then did that for. 50 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:02.319 Tea And the best thing that ever happened to you 51 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:03.799 is you ran it to mister Mueller. 52 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.759 Mister and mister Fader and ran Mueller for sure, Bob 53 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:11.520 Mueller and Rudy Matthews and all those guys that Mueller 54 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:13.919 and essocially, it's wonderful. 55 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.879 Guys, right, because you are now and I haven't mentioned 56 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.759 what you do, but you're you're kind of you're kind 57 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:21.000 of one of the bigger gas and tussags. In my mind, 58 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.120 I know you're gonna boom boo that, but no, you're 59 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.719 out there, you shake hands, kiss babies. You Cody, your 60 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:29.759 name is pretty popular in this town. 61 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:33.039 Well, I appreciate it, but it's it's we sell a 62 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.879 service that people don't need unless they really need it, right, 63 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:40.840 and so we have to have relationships. It's it's a 64 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.000 relationship with interesting Well. 65 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.719 It's funny you say that, because I would say ninety 66 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.800 five percent of the world is people business. Be nice 67 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.319 to them, they'll be nice to you and pay back. 68 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:53.439 You know what I'm saying. Right, it's a give and take. Right, 69 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.520 You've you've established that in town because you you're everywhere, 70 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.879 am you, Because you're the You're the CEO of Crest 71 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.479 Right Insurance And you guys were up north in Phoenix. 72 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:04.800 You guys are here in town, which has kind of 73 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.400 started here right right for sure, and then all over 74 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:07.879 the West. 75 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:12.879 Yeah, we have an office in Las Vegas, one in 76 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:17.159 San Diego, several in Arizona. We just got one little, 77 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:19.479 a little, tiny, tiny, tiny one, but it's still kind 78 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:23.719 of cool. In Fort Worth, Denver's pretty significant, and Denver, 79 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.479 Fort Collins, Longmont, and then up in you know, my 80 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.560 old neck of the woods, Wyoming. But it's really funny 81 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:33.319 because we're having our holiday party this Friday. Yeah, and 82 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.159 our old friends Kevin McCabe and Brad Steinkey and Jody 83 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:39.599 Jackson are the judges. And we had a clown and 84 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.599 the clown. You had it having Friday and we have 85 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:45.360 a talent contest, and we had a clown and Tim Emory, 86 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.719 you know TIMI works of the Boys and Girls Club 87 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.080 up in Phoenix. He's Santa Claus. He shows up every year. 88 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.639 We had a clown and the Corey Williams, who works 89 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:55.680 with me, goes, you can't bring the clown back. People 90 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:57.680 are creeped out by the clown. But you have to 91 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.960 have like a fifth kind of funny judge. So we're 92 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.280 trying to get the Phoenix Gorilla. We can't have the 93 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.120 uf A Wildcat because there's too many. 94 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:08.280 There are hoops that you well. 95 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:10.240 Well, no, we have well that too, but we have 96 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:11.680 a ton of wildcats and we have a ton of 97 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.960 sun devils. So we're trying to get Louis the Lumberjack 98 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.360 because nobody doesn't like. 99 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:18.160 Do you need an unbiased opinion? 100 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:20.199 Yeah, we need to unbiased opinion to be a judge 101 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:23.600 and to help our flag staff team. 102 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:25.399 Very nice. You can see you all over the place, 103 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.959 and you help. Part of the reasons why you're here. 104 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.120 I wanted you here. You were here with me about 105 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.759 four years ago while we were at the other station, right, 106 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:33.439 you came in and. 107 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.120 Even way long time ago, one other time we did it. 108 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:38.639 So yeah, no, and it's great to see you all 109 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.160 the time. I will see you with the games. Very cordial, 110 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:42.759 very good. You're good. You're good, dude. 111 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:43.600 You know you're my friend. 112 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:44.279 You're good. 113 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.680 So for those of you who are who follow Steve, 114 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:50.480 Steve's always been a uh he did football back everybody 115 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.759 knows him mostly for basketball, but you did football before 116 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:56.240 that baseball. We became friends when you were covering the tours, 117 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:59.240 but used aid Steve Eustah hosts back in the day 118 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.759 and is a part when you first moved here? Pay 119 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.800 per view boxing match? Oh yeah, yeah, and I still 120 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.560 remember going over. We watched that was so long Floyd 121 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:14.279 Mayweather versus uh not de la Hoya hands. Oh yeah, 122 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.000 the Duran Roberta during not Roberta Dran. I'm a stone. 123 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.279 Oh gosh, dang it, I don't remember this. It was. 124 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.000 It was Floyd Mayweather versus the other guy from Mexico. 125 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:27.120 We'll have to we'll look it up at the I 126 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.240 remember right now. I don't remember, but it was at 127 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.399 your place and you invited about twenty of us over 128 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:33.720 and you paid for it, so I'm playing at. 129 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:35.199 For it was like thirty bucks maybe. 130 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:36.959 Yeah. We thought, well, you were like the wealthiest guy 131 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.240 we knew because you had a time job. Yeah, you 132 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:40.160 had a real job. 133 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.519 We had a real job. Yeah, those be those gods. 134 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:44.600 That's a long time ago, in the late eighties, nineties 135 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:46.920 already lived off for was that cold road was? 136 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.360 Yeah? 137 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.439 Well god, it was my I was I dating my 138 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:50.199 my then my. 139 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:52.000 I think so, but she wasn't there. It was a 140 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.399 solid Oh yeah, of course. Oh guy, get out of 141 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.399 forty people in your apartment. That was the small apartment. Yeah, 142 00:05:58.720 --> 00:05:59.319 but it was fun. 143 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.360 Yeah, no, I remember that, And well I don't remember that, 144 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.759 but okay, and then we you know, do some stuff. 145 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:07.040 And I always misidentified you as the guy, the Toughy, 146 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:08.319 the total guy who got. 147 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.720 No that I was involved in the Toughie the total deal. 148 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.319 The second time I was. The first time was if 149 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.480 we have time go ahead. For the first time was 150 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:20.839 Mike Vader, who's both of our really good, but he 151 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.720 was in last week. I love Mike. And Mike always 152 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:27.519 was the master promoter, you know, minor league baseball, and 153 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:30.439 he had the dash for cash. Touffy. The Toros started 154 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.639 on second base, guys would start at home and it 155 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.560 was a progressive pot and so nobody could ever catch 156 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.160 Toughie because it was you know, he had such a 157 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:43.040 head start. But one day some guy who looks like 158 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:47.319 your producer here, young athletic guy, caught him between third 159 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:48.519 base and home and tackled him. 160 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.079 Do you remember that I pushed him from the back? Yeah. 161 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.040 I pushed him from the back, and it made CNN 162 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.959 Play of the Year. Yeah, And and Mike was all 163 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.319 bent out of shape because they interviewed Toughy and he 164 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.439 spoke Mike because you're not supposed to speak here animal. 165 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.000 And so two weeks later, the Chicken came into town 166 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.360 for the Chicken Night. He had heard about it, so 167 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.839 he went to Mic and said, let's recreate it, but 168 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.920 let's make Toughie have a hamstring injury as he's going 169 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.480 out to second base and it was a full capacity, 170 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:17.399 nine thousand people whatever. Back then, do you remember Mike 171 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:19.360 used to have people on the warning track. Yeah, he 172 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.360 used to rope it off. Well, we talked about that. 173 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:23.800 He was with us because the crowds were huge. They 174 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:26.480 were huge, and Kenny Lofton was playing everything, so they 175 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.759 they so tough. He came in, came up with a 176 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.600 hamstring injury. Bill Romer, who was a p a guy, goes, hey, kids, 177 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.959 who should be the guy? And everybody said the chicken. 178 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.480 So I think his name is Tedji and allis or whatever. 179 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.720 He does the flips, not the second but very athletic, 180 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.600 super small guy, and they're like, Mike goes tonight, you're 181 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.240 the guy, and so you have to tackle uh the 182 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.879 chicken between third place and home, which I did because 183 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.199 I caught him. Is embarrassing having people what you've run, 184 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:55.519 you know, like I wasn't case Swiss, remember the old 185 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.879 case Swiss. So anyways, I catch toughie, Uh, I mean 186 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.480 the chicken tackle from behind, super small guy. 187 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.800 Did he know that that was gonna he told me 188 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:06.519 to do. Oh okay, so he was brazen for it. 189 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.000 And when when I when I tackled him, he actually 190 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.120 under his things, Oh you know, s hi whatever, and 191 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.399 so get up and he started pecking me with his 192 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:19.519 beak into my chest. And then all of a sudden, Chester, 193 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:21.639 the Cheeto, the Red Bear and it was mascot night 194 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:25.120 Toffee himself on crutches, beat me up, all of them. 195 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:26.839 I didn't know that was going to happen. That's what 196 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.160 they forgot to tell me. People are brewing me. 197 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.879 This is ninety one two, that was maybe. 198 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.200 Ninety yeah and uh. And then I told Mike I'm done. 199 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:36.279 I'm like, I don't want to do this. 200 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:37.480 See how far you've come. 201 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:39.720 Well that was more fun to be honest with. 202 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.879 Yeah. Now you're now you're a big time dude in 203 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.159 the city and helping you of a you're a big 204 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:52.000 time UA fan. I'm sure there's concerns, both both positive 205 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.279 and negative, but you know, football struggled. Basketball has has 206 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.399 done very well up until kind of now. But that's 207 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.480 just kind of like a warning. But what are your thoughts? 208 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.440 Just we have but by the way, let's let me 209 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.639 give the assignments today. Kim Adera will be calling us 210 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.159 about three seventeen talk about their great game coming up 211 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.799 by their teams at three forty ish. And we're gonna 212 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.000 get Corey Williams right who works for you covering basketball 213 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:20.919 with me? With you where you Okay, see you're always Politican. 214 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.200 Corey is great, great with insights and stuff. In the 215 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.080 next hour, we're gonna have Max Marley and Dan Marley's 216 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.559 son who plays at Pima. He's tearing it up up there. 217 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.519 So we'll be busy today. Okay, great, busy today. Don't 218 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:36.200 forget we have breaking news with Henry so great, thanks 219 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.080 for coming in saving me. So just we got about 220 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.559 three four minutes. Just maybe a little quick synopsis. Are 221 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.480 you what are your concerns? If you do have concerns, 222 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.279 we can get it more on the other side. 223 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:53.039 Well, when I was working way back when when I. 224 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.559 Knew you were a fundraiser too, well. 225 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:57.440 I was I was intern with the Wildcat Club. Okay, 226 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.960 and the other day a week ago, two weeks ago, 227 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:03.279 I for my good friend G. D. Kessler fortieth anniversary 228 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.879 retirement party. And so I was working there in the 229 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.200 late eighties just as an unpaid intern, and so I 230 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.639 was there when Cedric Dempsey was there, and then I 231 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.559 saw Jim liven could come through, and then of course 232 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.480 Greg and then Dave and now desire and my concern, 233 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:21.080 I mean, college. 234 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.360 Athletics has changed easy, yeah, crazy. 235 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:27.159 And also, you know, ironically, I'm also in Kim's coming 236 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.240 on a little bit. I'm a huge Wyoming guy too, 237 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.159 because that's why I went to undergrad And so they 238 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:35.519 face the same issues that Arizona's facing, but at a 239 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:40.320 different level. They're a level below us. I'm concerned because 240 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:43.200 what frustrates me and I can never really figure this out. 241 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:45.320 It's a you know, one hundred million, maybe a billion 242 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.320 dollar industry and people are making decisions. And you and 243 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:51.240 I talked offline about this at USC and UCLA and 244 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:54.200 now here that may not even be in our community 245 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:57.559 for five years from now. And I told you this 246 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.759 and and I'm not saying this despite the football, because 247 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:04.000 I really want Brent Brannon to succeed. He's a great guy. 248 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.159 You and I both love Dick Tomy. So what I'm 249 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.600 in the back of my mind, I'm hoping that he 250 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.440 does a Dictomy type deal where everybody rides him off. 251 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:14.120 He finds a way, and I think, if there's anybody 252 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:15.759 that could do it, Brent can do it. So I'm 253 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:21.600 all in on Brent. However, in December of twenty twenty, 254 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.480 my wife and I made a donation to the University Arizona, 255 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.600 fairly significant. It wasn't quid pro quode, nothing like that, 256 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.759 but I just said, can I make a recommendation no 257 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:32.879 one kind of building teams and being around people and 258 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.000 cultures and stuff like that, and two sons of special community, 259 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.919 but you want somebody that wants to be here, not 260 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:39.159 as a stepping stone. 261 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.480 This was before Jen, before they hired Jed and Same 262 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:43.840 time Prime. 263 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:47.639 Yeah, halftime of the game that we lost on TV 264 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.519 SU seventy two to seven, I got a call from 265 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:53.320 a very very very close friend of mine who used 266 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:55.799 to coach with Richard. He goes, dang it, you can 267 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.440 win at Arizona. You can win there, and he goes, 268 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.840 I need you to touch bab with Dave hekey, which 269 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:07.039 to Dave's credit took this seriously, took took my call seriously, 270 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.120 and he said, and doctor Robins, I have that. I 271 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.159 kept that as they say, the kids say the receipts. 272 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.960 I don't know why you have the text or the culture. Yeah, 273 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.240 And it wasn't anything, It's not anything outlandish. But I'm like, 274 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:23.000 I guarantee you I have the guys that you need 275 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.759 to talk to you that could turn this thing around them, 276 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:27.320 both of them. I talked to Dave and he said, 277 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.080 go talk to doctor Robinson, who, by the way, I like, right, 278 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:34.720 And I said, this guy here's a game changer. He's young. 279 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.440 My friend Charlie recognized in reading the room that he 280 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.279 didn't have the name ID to be the guy. But 281 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.919 Charlie was the head coach at Chaparral High School. Coach here. 282 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.519 I think he didn't he lost one game in four years. Steve, 283 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:51.519 he's he's an amazing guy, right, And he's like, I'll 284 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.759 bring Kenny with me. I'll mentor him. We have a staff, 285 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.440 we'll kick butt. And that was Kenny Dillingham. And I 286 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.240 know that you have a talk to him. Kenny might 287 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.159 deny it now and Ken Ken's a great guy. He 288 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.799 came by our company holiday. I saw your photos years ago. Yeah, 289 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:06.440 he came by with with with with Charlie and for the. 290 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.360 First time you saw him less we too the game. 291 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.879 Two years I saw Charlie, but I didn't see so 292 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.360 two years ago they came by and I'm like, man, 293 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:16.399 these guys are dynamic. And that's right. When Jed was 294 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.279 building the thing up. Jed was a great coach, had 295 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:22.720 a plan. But what I told doctor Robbins and Dave, 296 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:26.360 you want somebody that wants to be here. And and 297 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.480 now he's probably in the right place because he went 298 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:32.159 there to school. But his brother, I understand it, and 299 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:34.360 his father went here to u of A. And I 300 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.399 thought it could have been like a coach Canrea situation 301 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:38.720 where you could be a son devil. But once you 302 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.840 come in and builds something. But now they're going to 303 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.080 have search committees and and think tanks and everybody like, 304 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.120 how can we build what they have when we already 305 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.039 had it? Sure it's authentic. 306 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:53.519 And we'll talk more about the conversation after after the fact, 307 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.320 because that we're going to take a break, get a 308 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.320 hold of Kim Kim Acoss and we'll talk about the 309 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.440 great game. 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