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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. In with
Speaker 3: me today is a long time friend Cody Ritchie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what thirty thirty five years about?
Speaker 3: Did you get hear? Like summer of eighty seven?
Speaker 4: Summer of eighty seven?
Speaker 3: So that so hop's me too, So we probably met
Speaker 3: a little while after that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're like a month older than me.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, no, what needs to do?
Speaker 4: But we still are young.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Henry running the board today, so we should
Speaker 3: go smoothly. Did you think thirty seven years ago, thirty
Speaker 3: seven years ago you'd be in a situation you're in,
Speaker 3: position wise and stuff like that. Life?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, I mean, I'm I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean happy, I've alwa happy you.
Speaker 3: You can't buy happiness, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you're happy, more powered to you, because his happiness
Speaker 3: is tough to come by.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I always kiddy, Steve, because I always like smile Steve, going.
Speaker 3: Back when right, I'm smiling inside, you don't need to
Speaker 3: see you.
Speaker 4: You're smiling now, But even back then, I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't know if if And a lot of the guys
Speaker 4: that we knew back then too have been like school teachers.
Speaker 4: My one friend Eric, who you knew Nember. Eric, he's
Speaker 4: a he retired as a school teacher. Now he's a
Speaker 4: school bus driver. And I think he's the happiest guy
Speaker 4: I've ever known in my life because he has half
Speaker 4: a day off and he golfs all the time. And so,
Speaker 4: I mean, I knew that I wanted to do something.
Speaker 4: I thought I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna You were you were? What were you at you
Speaker 3: at that time?
Speaker 4: Well, I went to University of Wyoming, got you green business,
Speaker 4: and came to u of A and to get back
Speaker 4: then they had a sports administration program.
Speaker 3: So you were in your grad student, yes, make you
Speaker 3: and then you were there till when did you get
Speaker 3: that degree?
Speaker 4: Ninety ninety one? Oh a little bit, yeah, okay, ninety
Speaker 4: because the first six months I didn't do that. I
Speaker 4: was doing something different, and then did that for.
Speaker 3: Tea And the best thing that ever happened to you
Speaker 3: is you ran it to mister Mueller.
Speaker 4: Mister and mister Fader and ran Mueller for sure, Bob
Speaker 4: Mueller and Rudy Matthews and all those guys that Mueller
Speaker 4: and essocially, it's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Guys, right, because you are now and I haven't mentioned
Speaker 3: what you do, but you're you're kind of you're kind
Speaker 3: of one of the bigger gas and tussags. In my mind,
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna boom boo that, but no, you're
Speaker 3: out there, you shake hands, kiss babies. You Cody, your
Speaker 3: name is pretty popular in this town.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it, but it's it's we sell a
Speaker 4: service that people don't need unless they really need it, right,
Speaker 4: and so we have to have relationships. It's it's a
Speaker 4: relationship with interesting Well.
Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, because I would say ninety
Speaker 3: five percent of the world is people business. Be nice
Speaker 3: to them, they'll be nice to you and pay back.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Right, it's a give and take. Right,
Speaker 3: You've you've established that in town because you you're everywhere,
Speaker 3: am you, Because you're the You're the CEO of Crest
Speaker 3: Right Insurance And you guys were up north in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: You guys are here in town, which has kind of
Speaker 3: started here right right for sure, and then all over
Speaker 3: the West.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have an office in Las Vegas, one in
Speaker 4: San Diego, several in Arizona. We just got one little,
Speaker 4: a little, tiny, tiny, tiny one, but it's still kind
Speaker 4: of cool. In Fort Worth, Denver's pretty significant, and Denver,
Speaker 4: Fort Collins, Longmont, and then up in you know, my
Speaker 4: old neck of the woods, Wyoming. But it's really funny
Speaker 4: because we're having our holiday party this Friday. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: our old friends Kevin McCabe and Brad Steinkey and Jody
Speaker 4: Jackson are the judges. And we had a clown and
Speaker 4: the clown. You had it having Friday and we have
Speaker 4: a talent contest, and we had a clown and Tim Emory,
Speaker 4: you know TIMI works of the Boys and Girls Club
Speaker 4: up in Phoenix. He's Santa Claus. He shows up every year.
Speaker 4: We had a clown and the Corey Williams, who works
Speaker 4: with me, goes, you can't bring the clown back. People
Speaker 4: are creeped out by the clown. But you have to
Speaker 4: have like a fifth kind of funny judge. So we're
Speaker 4: trying to get the Phoenix Gorilla. We can't have the
Speaker 4: uf A Wildcat because there's too many.
Speaker 3: There are hoops that you well.
Speaker 4: Well, no, we have well that too, but we have
Speaker 4: a ton of wildcats and we have a ton of
Speaker 4: sun devils. So we're trying to get Louis the Lumberjack
Speaker 4: because nobody doesn't like.
Speaker 3: Do you need an unbiased opinion?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to unbiased opinion to be a judge
Speaker 4: and to help our flag staff team.
Speaker 3: Very nice. You can see you all over the place,
Speaker 3: and you help. Part of the reasons why you're here.
Speaker 3: I wanted you here. You were here with me about
Speaker 3: four years ago while we were at the other station, right,
Speaker 3: you came in and.
Speaker 4: Even way long time ago, one other time we did it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, and it's great to see you all
Speaker 3: the time. I will see you with the games. Very cordial,
Speaker 3: very good. You're good. You're good, dude.
Speaker 4: You know you're my friend.
Speaker 3: You're good.
Speaker 4: So for those of you who are who follow Steve,
Speaker 4: Steve's always been a uh he did football back everybody
Speaker 4: knows him mostly for basketball, but you did football before
Speaker 4: that baseball. We became friends when you were covering the tours,
Speaker 4: but used aid Steve Eustah hosts back in the day
Speaker 4: and is a part when you first moved here? Pay
Speaker 4: per view boxing match? Oh yeah, yeah, and I still
Speaker 4: remember going over. We watched that was so long Floyd
Speaker 4: Mayweather versus uh not de la Hoya hands. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: the Duran Roberta during not Roberta Dran. I'm a stone.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, dang it, I don't remember this. It was.
Speaker 4: It was Floyd Mayweather versus the other guy from Mexico.
Speaker 4: We'll have to we'll look it up at the I
Speaker 4: remember right now. I don't remember, but it was at
Speaker 4: your place and you invited about twenty of us over
Speaker 4: and you paid for it, so I'm playing at.
Speaker 3: For it was like thirty bucks maybe.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We thought, well, you were like the wealthiest guy
Speaker 4: we knew because you had a time job. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: had a real job.
Speaker 3: We had a real job. Yeah, those be those gods.
Speaker 3: That's a long time ago, in the late eighties, nineties
Speaker 3: already lived off for was that cold road was?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well god, it was my I was I dating my
Speaker 3: my then my.
Speaker 4: I think so, but she wasn't there. It was a
Speaker 4: solid Oh yeah, of course. Oh guy, get out of
Speaker 4: forty people in your apartment. That was the small apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I remember that, And well I don't remember that,
Speaker 3: but okay, and then we you know, do some stuff.
Speaker 3: And I always misidentified you as the guy, the Toughy,
Speaker 3: the total guy who got.
Speaker 4: No that I was involved in the Toughie the total deal.
Speaker 4: The second time I was. The first time was if
Speaker 4: we have time go ahead. For the first time was
Speaker 4: Mike Vader, who's both of our really good, but he
Speaker 4: was in last week. I love Mike. And Mike always
Speaker 4: was the master promoter, you know, minor league baseball, and
Speaker 4: he had the dash for cash. Touffy. The Toros started
Speaker 4: on second base, guys would start at home and it
Speaker 4: was a progressive pot and so nobody could ever catch
Speaker 4: Toughie because it was you know, he had such a
Speaker 4: head start. But one day some guy who looks like
Speaker 4: your producer here, young athletic guy, caught him between third
Speaker 4: base and home and tackled him.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that I pushed him from the back? Yeah.
Speaker 4: I pushed him from the back, and it made CNN
Speaker 4: Play of the Year. Yeah, And and Mike was all
Speaker 4: bent out of shape because they interviewed Toughy and he
Speaker 4: spoke Mike because you're not supposed to speak here animal.
Speaker 4: And so two weeks later, the Chicken came into town
Speaker 4: for the Chicken Night. He had heard about it, so
Speaker 4: he went to Mic and said, let's recreate it, but
Speaker 4: let's make Toughie have a hamstring injury as he's going
Speaker 4: out to second base and it was a full capacity,
Speaker 4: nine thousand people whatever. Back then, do you remember Mike
Speaker 4: used to have people on the warning track. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: used to rope it off. Well, we talked about that.
Speaker 4: He was with us because the crowds were huge. They
Speaker 4: were huge, and Kenny Lofton was playing everything, so they
Speaker 4: they so tough. He came in, came up with a
Speaker 4: hamstring injury. Bill Romer, who was a p a guy, goes, hey, kids,
Speaker 4: who should be the guy? And everybody said the chicken.
Speaker 4: So I think his name is Tedji and allis or whatever.
Speaker 4: He does the flips, not the second but very athletic,
Speaker 4: super small guy, and they're like, Mike goes tonight, you're
Speaker 4: the guy, and so you have to tackle uh the
Speaker 4: chicken between third place and home, which I did because
Speaker 4: I caught him. Is embarrassing having people what you've run,
Speaker 4: you know, like I wasn't case Swiss, remember the old
Speaker 4: case Swiss. So anyways, I catch toughie, Uh, I mean
Speaker 4: the chicken tackle from behind, super small guy.
Speaker 3: Did he know that that was gonna he told me
Speaker 3: to do. Oh okay, so he was brazen for it.
Speaker 4: And when when I when I tackled him, he actually
Speaker 4: under his things, Oh you know, s hi whatever, and
Speaker 4: so get up and he started pecking me with his
Speaker 4: beak into my chest. And then all of a sudden, Chester,
Speaker 4: the Cheeto, the Red Bear and it was mascot night
Speaker 4: Toffee himself on crutches, beat me up, all of them.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was going to happen. That's what
Speaker 4: they forgot to tell me. People are brewing me.
Speaker 3: This is ninety one two, that was maybe.
Speaker 4: Ninety yeah and uh. And then I told Mike I'm done.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to do this.
Speaker 3: See how far you've come.
Speaker 4: Well that was more fun to be honest with.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now you're now you're a big time dude in
Speaker 3: the city and helping you of a you're a big
Speaker 3: time UA fan. I'm sure there's concerns, both both positive
Speaker 3: and negative, but you know, football struggled. Basketball has has
Speaker 3: done very well up until kind of now. But that's
Speaker 3: just kind of like a warning. But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Just we have but by the way, let's let me
Speaker 3: give the assignments today. Kim Adera will be calling us
Speaker 3: about three seventeen talk about their great game coming up
Speaker 3: by their teams at three forty ish. And we're gonna
Speaker 3: get Corey Williams right who works for you covering basketball
Speaker 3: with me? With you where you Okay, see you're always Politican.
Speaker 3: Corey is great, great with insights and stuff. In the
Speaker 3: next hour, we're gonna have Max Marley and Dan Marley's
Speaker 3: son who plays at Pima. He's tearing it up up there.
Speaker 3: So we'll be busy today. Okay, great, busy today. Don't
Speaker 3: forget we have breaking news with Henry so great, thanks
Speaker 3: for coming in saving me. So just we got about
Speaker 3: three four minutes. Just maybe a little quick synopsis. Are
Speaker 3: you what are your concerns? If you do have concerns,
Speaker 3: we can get it more on the other side.
Speaker 4: Well, when I was working way back when when I.
Speaker 3: Knew you were a fundraiser too, well.
Speaker 4: I was I was intern with the Wildcat Club. Okay,
Speaker 4: and the other day a week ago, two weeks ago,
Speaker 4: I for my good friend G. D. Kessler fortieth anniversary
Speaker 4: retirement party. And so I was working there in the
Speaker 4: late eighties just as an unpaid intern, and so I
Speaker 4: was there when Cedric Dempsey was there, and then I
Speaker 4: saw Jim liven could come through, and then of course
Speaker 4: Greg and then Dave and now desire and my concern,
Speaker 4: I mean, college.
Speaker 3: Athletics has changed easy, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 4: And also, you know, ironically, I'm also in Kim's coming
Speaker 4: on a little bit. I'm a huge Wyoming guy too,
Speaker 4: because that's why I went to undergrad And so they
Speaker 4: face the same issues that Arizona's facing, but at a
Speaker 4: different level. They're a level below us. I'm concerned because
Speaker 4: what frustrates me and I can never really figure this out.
Speaker 4: It's a you know, one hundred million, maybe a billion
Speaker 4: dollar industry and people are making decisions. And you and
Speaker 4: I talked offline about this at USC and UCLA and
Speaker 4: now here that may not even be in our community
Speaker 4: for five years from now. And I told you this
Speaker 4: and and I'm not saying this despite the football, because
Speaker 4: I really want Brent Brannon to succeed. He's a great guy.
Speaker 4: You and I both love Dick Tomy. So what I'm
Speaker 4: in the back of my mind, I'm hoping that he
Speaker 4: does a Dictomy type deal where everybody rides him off.
Speaker 4: He finds a way, and I think, if there's anybody
Speaker 4: that could do it, Brent can do it. So I'm
Speaker 4: all in on Brent. However, in December of twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: my wife and I made a donation to the University Arizona,
Speaker 4: fairly significant. It wasn't quid pro quode, nothing like that,
Speaker 4: but I just said, can I make a recommendation no
Speaker 4: one kind of building teams and being around people and
Speaker 4: cultures and stuff like that, and two sons of special community,
Speaker 4: but you want somebody that wants to be here, not
Speaker 4: as a stepping stone.
Speaker 3: This was before Jen, before they hired Jed and Same
Speaker 3: time Prime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, halftime of the game that we lost on TV
Speaker 4: SU seventy two to seven, I got a call from
Speaker 4: a very very very close friend of mine who used
Speaker 4: to coach with Richard. He goes, dang it, you can
Speaker 4: win at Arizona. You can win there, and he goes,
Speaker 4: I need you to touch bab with Dave hekey, which
Speaker 4: to Dave's credit took this seriously, took took my call seriously,
Speaker 4: and he said, and doctor Robins, I have that. I
Speaker 4: kept that as they say, the kids say the receipts.
Speaker 4: I don't know why you have the text or the culture. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it wasn't anything, It's not anything outlandish. But I'm like,
Speaker 4: I guarantee you I have the guys that you need
Speaker 4: to talk to you that could turn this thing around them,
Speaker 4: both of them. I talked to Dave and he said,
Speaker 4: go talk to doctor Robinson, who, by the way, I like, right,
Speaker 4: And I said, this guy here's a game changer. He's young.
Speaker 4: My friend Charlie recognized in reading the room that he
Speaker 4: didn't have the name ID to be the guy. But
Speaker 4: Charlie was the head coach at Chaparral High School. Coach here.
Speaker 4: I think he didn't he lost one game in four years. Steve,
Speaker 4: he's he's an amazing guy, right, And he's like, I'll
Speaker 4: bring Kenny with me. I'll mentor him. We have a staff,
Speaker 4: we'll kick butt. And that was Kenny Dillingham. And I
Speaker 4: know that you have a talk to him. Kenny might
Speaker 4: deny it now and Ken Ken's a great guy. He
Speaker 4: came by our company holiday. I saw your photos years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he came by with with with with Charlie and for the.
Speaker 3: First time you saw him less we too the game.
Speaker 4: Two years I saw Charlie, but I didn't see so
Speaker 4: two years ago they came by and I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: these guys are dynamic. And that's right. When Jed was
Speaker 4: building the thing up. Jed was a great coach, had
Speaker 4: a plan. But what I told doctor Robbins and Dave,
Speaker 4: you want somebody that wants to be here. And and
Speaker 4: now he's probably in the right place because he went
Speaker 4: there to school. But his brother, I understand it, and
Speaker 4: his father went here to u of A. And I
Speaker 4: thought it could have been like a coach Canrea situation
Speaker 4: where you could be a son devil. But once you
Speaker 4: come in and builds something. But now they're going to
Speaker 4: have search committees and and think tanks and everybody like,
Speaker 4: how can we build what they have when we already
Speaker 4: had it? Sure it's authentic.
Speaker 3: And we'll talk more about the conversation after after the fact,
Speaker 3: because that we're going to take a break, get a
Speaker 3: hold of Kim Kim Acoss and we'll talk about the
Speaker 3: great game. Kim adare right, and then we'll get back
Speaker 3: to your story because it's a very interesting story about
Speaker 3: what could have happened, what did happen? Stuff like that,
Speaker 3: or where we are now and where you're at because
Speaker 3: you're a big you have a big footprint of it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Ravera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Iam the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today's Cody Ritchie.
Speaker 3: Now in the phone. We have Kim Adair, the executive
Speaker 3: director of the Arizona Bowl. Give me a real name
Speaker 3: of the Arizona Bowl him.
Speaker 9: With pleasure. It's the Snoop Dogg Arizona Bowl presented by
Speaker 9: Gin and Juice by Train.
Speaker 12: Snoop.
Speaker 3: See, that's a long one for me. That's great. Great.
Speaker 3: You must be on Seventh Heaven or whatever heaven you
Speaker 3: want to be on, because yesterday was a big day
Speaker 3: and you have Snoop coming in.
Speaker 9: We're very excited. We announced our teams yesterday. We've got
Speaker 9: a terrific matchup. I think that these two teams are
Speaker 9: gonna go toe to toe on the field and it's
Speaker 9: going to be, you know, a grudge match. It's going
Speaker 9: to be awesome. So we've got Miami University coming from
Speaker 9: Ohio and Colorado State coming from outside of Denver for Colin.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, it's funny because I have Cody with me,
Speaker 3: and he's he's a Wyoming guy. I'm a New Mexico
Speaker 3: State guy. If you can get those type of fan
Speaker 3: bases in town, you're gonna kill it.
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, Cody, if I could take Wyoming
Speaker 9: every time, I would, you know, I would.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: There were three wins this here, so they weren't coming.
Speaker 3: They weren't even do you know.
Speaker 4: That Colorado State is is Wyoming's like arts rival Arts nemesis. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's a great, great city.
Speaker 3: And the coach, the coach here has been here before.
Speaker 9: Yes, Jane Arvell came as the head coach in Nevada
Speaker 9: a few years ago and Nevada won over Arkansas State
Speaker 9: that year. So he's been here as as a as
Speaker 9: a wolf Pack member, and now you'll be back as
Speaker 9: a ram for Colorado State.
Speaker 3: Those guys, each team must be chumping at the bit
Speaker 3: to be here because they're gonna earn some money in
Speaker 3: addition to playing a game.
Speaker 9: That's true. Yeah, Snoop announced you know, like I think
Speaker 9: in June that the intention was to give every player
Speaker 9: that played and you know that came to the game,
Speaker 9: not necessarily played in the game, an ni L deal.
Speaker 9: And so We're still working out the details of that,
Speaker 9: but every player that comes with the with the team
Speaker 9: will receive an NIL package.
Speaker 3: What a deal. It's funny because I wrote my story
Speaker 3: on on you guys for BIZ Tucson. Are you any
Speaker 3: cooler with your daughter now? Because you're even saying you're
Speaker 3: not even Golden Dog. You're saying Snoop, Yeah, dressed the dog.
Speaker 9: That's so funny, you know, yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 9: think I could be any cooler with my kids at
Speaker 9: this point. With all of the Snoop Dogg and dre integration,
Speaker 9: it's pretty fad fantastic, and it's just really more importantly,
Speaker 9: really excited for our community because we as Southern Arason
Speaker 9: our brief the benefits of this partnership. Everything we do
Speaker 9: really is to elevate visibility for Southern Arizona, economic impact
Speaker 9: for Southern Arizona, and of course donations to our charities,
Speaker 9: and so bringing Snoop into the fold and having him
Speaker 9: be our partner for this game is fantastic for our
Speaker 9: community and that's what really really matters.
Speaker 3: Do you know how bored that is? Right?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's you guys. Doe a phenomenal job. Camra
Speaker 4: and I think that, you know, I don't know what
Speaker 4: you kind of pencil in for Miami traveling. You know,
Speaker 4: maybe a thousand, two thousand and three thousand, Maybe they
Speaker 4: might have a big alumni base in the Phoenix area.
Speaker 4: But I know, I mean, Colorado State will travel. And
Speaker 4: I don't think they've been to a bowl game in
Speaker 4: a couple of years. Have they came?
Speaker 9: Right, it's been five or six years, Cody, And you know,
Speaker 9: I talked to them today and their reception on this
Speaker 9: has been incredible. They're already selling out of their allotment
Speaker 9: and want more tickets. So that's a really really good
Speaker 9: sign for Colorado States fans coming and you know, really
Speaker 9: being a part of southern Arizona for the Snapdog Arizona. Well,
Speaker 9: and we expect Miami probably not to have the same
Speaker 9: numbers as Colorado State does, but to have a really
Speaker 9: good contingency of fans here to.
Speaker 4: Support their the Maxicos always do.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, the thing is how far of a
Speaker 3: drive maybe eleven hours maybe less from Denver from Colorade.
Speaker 4: Yeah well, Denver's like Collins is forty five minutes from Denver.
Speaker 3: Oh so, so eleven hours maybe, And it's a simple
Speaker 3: dove twenty five cents.
Speaker 4: I go up there a lot, Steve. We have an
Speaker 4: office in four Collins, and I mean there's a million
Speaker 4: flights even to Tucson, dreg flights. Oh really from from
Speaker 4: Denver to Tucson and then from Denver to Phoenix, there's
Speaker 4: just probably.
Speaker 3: Forty well and when you're playing here, it's going to
Speaker 3: be seventy two pouty according to Ali, and it's gonna
Speaker 3: be about forty five up there.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's exactly That's why. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: sixty miles from Laramie and then Whyo. Many people are
Speaker 4: always complaining about how cold it was, and so four
Speaker 4: Collins is nicer weather. Yeah, it's not that much nicer,
Speaker 4: not as nice as they always say. Yeah, ten degrees
Speaker 4: maybe that.
Speaker 3: So what was the reception. I didn't get to go
Speaker 3: out there, but I heard as a packed house, a
Speaker 3: lot of fun yesterday when you made the announcement.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, we've got such a great group of
Speaker 9: supporters and volunteers that come out every single year and
Speaker 9: are there for us, and so they were out. They
Speaker 9: were out in droves yesterday for the big announcement. And
Speaker 9: we did that at the playground downtown and everyone is
Speaker 9: really excited. And you know Snoop he made the announcement
Speaker 9: himself via video. He can't wait for these two teams
Speaker 9: to get here too. And we you know, we hope
Speaker 9: we're working towards selling out forty thousand tickets for that
Speaker 9: whole or bowl to be full. This is a game
Speaker 9: people don't want to miss. I mean, you know, the
Speaker 9: fear of missing out is real when it comes to
Speaker 9: the Snoop Dogg Arizona Bowl. Snoop will be here, he'll
Speaker 9: be engaged. You've got a sneak peek of what that
Speaker 9: looks like from his time at the Olympics, and you
Speaker 9: know he's bringing some really cool friends along as well.
Speaker 9: So lots of surprises still to be had. But we
Speaker 9: want everybody out there supporting the game and having a really,
Speaker 9: really fantastic afternoon on December twenty eighth.
Speaker 4: Kim, you want to hear a cool little story about Snoop.
Speaker 4: I've never met Snoop, but my sister knows Snoop and
Speaker 4: my cousin Judy knows Snoop. They went to his wedding.
Speaker 4: Really yes, yeah, because back in two thousand and four,
Speaker 4: whenever the Super Bowl was in San Diego. My younger sister,
Speaker 4: her name is Rainy, was living out there and they
Speaker 4: put on a charity Pop Warner football game and they
Speaker 4: had Ricky Williams Foundation hired my sister and she was
Speaker 4: aspiring to be like you Kim way back when. But
Speaker 4: they put on a game and it was the Ricky
Speaker 4: Williams San Diego All Stars, and they had to find
Speaker 4: somebody to play. And that's when Snoop was coaching his kids,
Speaker 4: I think, way back when, you know, kind of during
Speaker 4: that USC days and stuff like that. Yeah, she said,
Speaker 4: he was just the nicest guy, just really loves football,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of cool to see how he's coming.
Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't own an
Speaker 4: NFL T in the future.
Speaker 9: Me neither. You know, he has the Snoopy Football League,
Speaker 9: which has had over sixty thousand kids go through it.
Speaker 9: And one of the things that we're excited about is
Speaker 9: that Snoop is bringing BSYFL National Championship to Southern Arizona
Speaker 9: during Bowl Week, So we'll have twenty four of the
Speaker 9: best tackle youth football teams from across the country and
Speaker 9: their families coming into Southern Arizona to participate in that
Speaker 9: tournament and then also come to the game as part
Speaker 9: of that as well. So it's just another way that
Speaker 9: we're bringing in people into Southern Arizona to eat at
Speaker 9: our restaurants, stay at our hotels, and enjoy our hospitality here.
Speaker 9: So we're really excited about that piece, no.
Speaker 3: Question, no question. So where are they going to be
Speaker 3: playing at. You guys have fields all over the city.
Speaker 9: So primarily that tournament will be played at Rieto Park.
Speaker 9: We're going to make those soccer fields into football fields.
Speaker 9: And with the championships being held at the University.
Speaker 3: Of Arizona, nice hotels.
Speaker 4: Are they saying that this year the teams the big.
Speaker 9: Teams, Well, we don't try to publicly.
Speaker 4: The reason why no, I mean why. The reason why
Speaker 4: is because I know that for my buddies at University
Speaker 4: of Wyoming. Yeah, they just all they ever talk about
Speaker 4: is the beautiful resorts that that their artable puts them
Speaker 4: out up at it and I know they kind of move
Speaker 4: them around a little bit, but you make a favorable
Speaker 4: impression on those guys.
Speaker 9: Well, we try, you know, we put our players and
Speaker 9: their bands and the spirit squads and you know, really
Speaker 9: first class resorts here in southern Arizona. You can imagine,
Speaker 9: you know, the ones we're talking about. Beautiful scenery, perfect hospitality,
Speaker 9: you know, great pools. Many of our players come. I
Speaker 9: have never been to our landscape.
Speaker 14: Before, and I have to warn them not to touch.
Speaker 9: The cactus, you know, because they're so interested in it.
Speaker 9: But I can't tell you how many players I've picked
Speaker 9: it from the airport and said did you bring your swimsuit?
Speaker 9: And they said no, And I said, let's stop a
Speaker 9: target on the way so that they could get to
Speaker 9: get to the you know, hotel and be able to
Speaker 9: go in the pools too. So they love it. It's
Speaker 9: so much fun, and we're we're really excited for people
Speaker 9: to be able to experience that part of southern.
Speaker 1: Arizona as well.
Speaker 3: So I think, correct me if I'm wrong. I think
Speaker 3: this is your sixth year as being the executive director.
Speaker 3: This must have some kind of special place because every
Speaker 3: year is different, right, You probably don't get bored because
Speaker 3: it's every year is different. And kudos to Nova who
Speaker 3: started this and then the Barstool the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: But this this is kind of special. It's got the
Speaker 3: city and all those Blue Blue Blazer people that you
Speaker 3: have going bonkers and selling tickets. This must be just
Speaker 3: just it feels different.
Speaker 12: It does.
Speaker 9: It feels it feels like a step up, for sure.
Speaker 9: I think just the national attention that that the game
Speaker 9: has with Snooping involved, I think that this is you know,
Speaker 9: I think people here feel like, and.
Speaker 3: This is true.
Speaker 9: N you could have selected any of the forty three
Speaker 9: bowls to put his name on and be a part of,
Speaker 9: and he shows us. And I think we need to
Speaker 9: be really proud of ourselves with the community that we
Speaker 9: have this great thing to offer, you know, a celebrity
Speaker 9: of that stature, and we should be proud of our community.
Speaker 9: I certainly am. I love Southern Arizona. I think I'm
Speaker 9: like the number one ambassador. Maybe maybe there's a few
Speaker 9: other people, but I'm out there selling Arizona and Southern
Speaker 9: Arizona particularly every single day. It's a great community and people.
Speaker 9: You know, ten years we've been this is our tenth
Speaker 9: tenth game if you count the one that was canceled.
Speaker 9: And you know, finally, I think people know who we are.
Speaker 9: I feel like everybody should know who we are. But
Speaker 9: it takes a while for the message to get out
Speaker 9: to the masses, and I think after ten years, we're
Speaker 9: finally getting more and more of that.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, I think i've asked you too
Speaker 3: before before in the previous months that you had this name.
Speaker 3: Is he going to perform which of course you don't
Speaker 3: have to answer and maybe you don't even know. And
Speaker 3: is he going to do some commentary because that's what
Speaker 3: he's kind of been known for now with the Olympics
Speaker 3: and talks a lot of crap and funny crap.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Absolutely. The CW was really excited when we brought
Speaker 9: Snoop on board and as part of that, Snoop will
Speaker 9: be commentating during the game for the third quarter up
Speaker 9: in the booths, and so I think that will bring
Speaker 9: a lot of eyeballs back to the game into the
Speaker 9: CW just to hear and see we'll see that, to
Speaker 9: see what he was doing, to hear what he's saying.
Speaker 9: And I think it's going to add some extra attention
Speaker 9: on what we're doing. And of course he's so entertaining.
Speaker 9: He's he's so marked when it, you know, in a
Speaker 9: lot of different areas and football especially he's you know,
Speaker 9: he's very very very astute when it comes to football.
Speaker 9: So and he's got such a great sense of humor,
Speaker 9: and so I'm so excited for everybody to be able
Speaker 9: to hear him calling part of our game on the
Speaker 9: CW broadcast.
Speaker 4: You know, Steve Miami of Ohio, isn't that where Ben
Speaker 4: Roethlisberger played? I think he played there, So they've had
Speaker 4: some big out of that.
Speaker 9: School, Cody, great job. Ben did play there, Yes, and
Speaker 9: you know Ben was a Steeler and do you know
Speaker 9: a bigger Steeler fan than Snoop Dogg? Maybe Allie for him?
Speaker 4: And then I think Joy played at Colorado State, so
Speaker 4: that energy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So now you have you have what's today's ninth or
Speaker 3: ten that ninth? You have about eighteen days, nineteen days.
Speaker 3: What's what's the urgency right now?
Speaker 9: Well, actually, you know, I peeled myself away from meetings
Speaker 9: with one of our teams. The teams come this week
Speaker 9: for their site visits. We show them all of the
Speaker 9: great things we have played for them and get them
Speaker 9: settled in. So that's being taken care of this week,
Speaker 9: and then it's just about selling tickets act, you know,
Speaker 9: making sure all of our sponsorships are executed, making sure
Speaker 9: that you know, we put on an amazing event for
Speaker 9: all of our community, and really just finalizing the details.
Speaker 9: This is something we've been working on and planning, you know,
Speaker 9: every single day for the last you know, three well
Speaker 9: since you know, since the last game. And so we're ready,
Speaker 9: we're excited. We're going to be a little with you know,
Speaker 9: a little bit with our hair on fire the next
Speaker 9: few weeks just getting it all done. But we can't
Speaker 9: wait for it to be done.
Speaker 3: You you started, god, as I say, six years ago.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many people you started with, but
Speaker 3: like I said, the Blue Blue Jackets, the Blue Blazers,
Speaker 3: you guys have a ton of people helping now. Before
Speaker 3: before when you first started, it was probably you're not many,
Speaker 3: and now you've got a ton.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, we've got our Blue Blazer group which
Speaker 9: is about one hundred people, plus our board which is
Speaker 9: another you know, twenty people. And so these are really awesome,
Speaker 9: dedicated volunteers who who make this happen for us.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 9: We are a small but scrappy team of five people.
Speaker 9: We've been together for a long time, so we understand
Speaker 9: and and and have really built a great rapport in
Speaker 9: our team and know how to get this done, but
Speaker 9: we couldn't do it ourselves without our amazing Blue Blazers.
Speaker 9: And yeah, we've got a terrific group of really dedicated people.
Speaker 9: You see our homet out of football games at events,
Speaker 9: you see that we are out, you know, talking about
Speaker 9: the bull, you know, really at every major event in
Speaker 9: southern Arizona. And we could only do that because of
Speaker 9: the great support that we have from our Blue Blazers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, of course Cody must have left his blue
Speaker 3: Blazer in the car.
Speaker 4: No, No, But what I wanted to say is that
Speaker 4: two son sets a big small town like Eric Spitzer
Speaker 4: is a Blue Blazer. He's a longtime friend of mine
Speaker 4: and our companies. Great guy, but probably one of my
Speaker 4: two best friends in Tucson is is a Blue Blazer.
Speaker 4: And you know him Steve, and you might not even
Speaker 4: know him by his real name, Jamison, remember Poke, and
Speaker 4: he and he absolutely loves it. I mean he he
Speaker 4: loves it. He has He is so much fun. He
Speaker 4: would probably pay you guys to be a volunteer. And
Speaker 4: that's how much fun these guys have with him. And
Speaker 4: he's been doing it for years. And I know, Kim
Speaker 4: if he says, you know he has a whole another
Speaker 4: group of friends I don't even know. And you guys
Speaker 4: have done a great job of building the camaraderie and
Speaker 4: the culture and the and the and the pride and
Speaker 4: the group. And you know, I joke because Wyoming camp
Speaker 4: me in it every year. And uh, I guess I'll
Speaker 4: have to cheer from Miami of Ohio.
Speaker 9: We'll allow you to do that, Cody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, great, great, Kim, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: Good luck. We'll see you around and about all the
Speaker 3: next few days because you're gonna be busy.
Speaker 9: Thanks, thank you so much. Thanks for having me, and
Speaker 9: go get your tickets at the Arizona bull dot com.
Speaker 14: It's going back.
Speaker 3: Yes, great, great Gray and make sure they do that. Okay,
Speaker 3: thanks Kim. Bye, But Kim a dare executive director. Let's
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Speaker 1: Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio WI. This is I
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rovera on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Si Rivera and today with
Speaker 3: me is Cody Richie. And now on the phone we
Speaker 3: have Corey Williams, form you of a star and college
Speaker 3: basketball analyst. Corey, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm doing good. You know, the longer it's been, the better.
Speaker 3: I was a movie star, now you were stars.
Speaker 5: I didn't feel much like a star when I was there,
Speaker 5: but you know.
Speaker 4: Well, how much did you get in an al? Now?
Speaker 3: How much was he?
Speaker 4: I asked for that? All the time.
Speaker 2: I think Bobby Olson let me get her peanuts on
Speaker 2: a flight one time.
Speaker 5: He didn't want her.
Speaker 3: Peanuts, And that was pretty much right right.
Speaker 2: All that was all the under under the table benefits
Speaker 2: we received back.
Speaker 3: In and she let you be the dude in the
Speaker 3: back of the bus in your radio show. I forget
Speaker 3: his name. Check you white, check you white.
Speaker 5: That's that's when we hit critical mass.
Speaker 2: The time Missus Zoe stepped in and she let me
Speaker 2: interview her in front of the whole team.
Speaker 5: That was That's when I knew I was.
Speaker 3: Big time, right. I said, don't worry about it. Loot
Speaker 3: will never know it, doesn't have to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh he got a kick out of it. He couldn't
Speaker 5: believe it.
Speaker 3: So so you've been busy. I saw you somewhere over
Speaker 3: the weekend. Were you in the West somewhere?
Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh. Conference realignment.
Speaker 2: I had Stanford at Cal for the ACC Conference. Like
Speaker 2: go figure, you know Pacific two teams that were part
Speaker 2: of the Pack eight I believe in the beginning, and
Speaker 2: now they're in the ACC. So yeah, I did the
Speaker 2: Stanford Cal game on Saturday. Both teams very talented, good bigs.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna beat a lot of teams in
Speaker 2: the ACC that don't see them coming just because oh
Speaker 2: they're pack twelve.
Speaker 5: Teams blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But both teams had good guard, play good big So
Speaker 2: those surprising folks.
Speaker 3: You you were out and about all over the country. Now,
Speaker 3: I guess in the West you must have a pretty
Speaker 3: good boss or something to let you do this.
Speaker 5: Well, it's, you know, the economy.
Speaker 2: I'm close to all the hot places. I'm close to
Speaker 2: the LA schools u A, Arizona State, BYU Colorado.
Speaker 5: You know they're gonna send me wherever's closest.
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just fortunate that we got some
Speaker 2: good basketball being played over here in the West and
Speaker 2: and on the West coast. So it's been good. I wasn't,
Speaker 2: you know, not too thrilled about going to a lot
Speaker 2: of those big twelve cities. But I'll go if they
Speaker 2: call or if they send me.
Speaker 4: Hey, Cory, I think he I think he's meaning working
Speaker 4: with me because I told him we worked together. I'm
Speaker 4: not your boss, but Steve's he doesn't smile very much,
Speaker 4: but he's smiling here to here here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just say, your boss, lets you do a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: Now we're not Cory is my guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we've had a friendship going way well
Speaker 2: over twenty years. And when you played, when I played,
Speaker 2: I was I was a person that Cody was my
Speaker 2: sophomore year in like ninety three summer in ninety three,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, we go back a long time.
Speaker 2: And the insurance industry is the kind of the industry
Speaker 2: where if you stay on top of your clients, you
Speaker 2: can work and travel and you know, you can kind
Speaker 2: of have a schedule. So I'm very grateful that I'm allowed.
Speaker 4: To pursue on Friday Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the majority of my responsibilities that cres boiled down
Speaker 2: to this upcoming Friday, I'm going to be hosting our
Speaker 2: annual Christmas party, which is the most epic, insane party.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a company do what Cody and the
Speaker 2: guys do.
Speaker 5: A crest for all the employees.
Speaker 2: They fly in everybody from all the offices, and we
Speaker 2: have it in Scottsdale Food Drink Company dance competition, and
Speaker 2: of course I have.
Speaker 5: To be the the ring leader, the grand mister.
Speaker 4: Entry, the whole thing. Last year, Yeah, and of course
Speaker 4: Courty doesn't go anywhere without his DJ you know level
Speaker 4: because of Corey. Everyone loves Corey. They don't like me,
Speaker 4: they love you, don't know you, Yeah, they love Corey. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's ever bad news that he needs to get delivered,
Speaker 2: it usually goes through me.
Speaker 5: It's it's often to blow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the bad news guy, right And you also
Speaker 3: see seven or something and and uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we always joke. We always joke.
Speaker 2: If we ever did write a screenplay on the last
Speaker 2: twenty five years of this agency, it would it would
Speaker 2: be it would be to be Oscar Oscar Award winning stuff,
Speaker 2: no question, It'd probably twenty years.
Speaker 4: I don't know who would play Who would you want
Speaker 4: to play you.
Speaker 3: Corey, Denzel, Denzil, Samuel Jackson, Samuel Jackson, No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who could play me with
Speaker 2: the height and get away with it.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's a good question.
Speaker 4: Would it be a comedian or a serious actor? Would
Speaker 4: it be like a forced Winnker d Chappelle.
Speaker 5: I need a serious act. You know who's a good actor?
Speaker 5: Emon Shumper used to be an NBA player.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but Amon is in a ton.
Speaker 2: Of stuff on cable New on cable and HBO. He's
Speaker 2: done pretty well from himself.
Speaker 4: Here's how old Steve and I are. I don't know
Speaker 4: about you, Corey, Michael Warren, Hill Street Blues. Yeah, do
Speaker 4: you remember Michael Warren Corey? No, No, they played at
Speaker 4: E C O A. He was on that. He was
Speaker 4: on that really good looking guy you know, la dude,
Speaker 4: and then he became an officer on Hill Street Blues.
Speaker 3: And you you know who the white channels would be
Speaker 3: that you're that guy would be.
Speaker 4: You Ken Howard. That was a good show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, yeah, let's get back to some business here.
Speaker 3: College basketball. I'm sure you've had a chance to glance
Speaker 3: at you of a time or two. Yes, yes, what?
Speaker 3: And I had Rhino on the show last week, and
Speaker 3: I think the world of both you guys, because you
Speaker 3: guys are good at you at your job. And I
Speaker 3: had two things. One the can't defend the three point line.
Speaker 3: You know, imagine that. You know that's easy. But this
Speaker 3: team is unlike any other team that had, even Tommy had.
Speaker 3: They can't get out on the fast break to get
Speaker 3: some fast break points and go and transition that team.
Speaker 3: You guys back in the day, that's what you lived
Speaker 3: by your ben and butter. This team cannot or has
Speaker 3: not been able to do that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: The reason that you don't see teams getting on on
Speaker 2: the break, this team does not force turnovers. The energy
Speaker 2: that you have to expand to get into passing lanes,
Speaker 2: to harass the guy's dribble, to get a deflection, to
Speaker 2: front the post, and all those things that lead to
Speaker 2: breakaway dunks and easy layups. You gotta be willing to
Speaker 2: burn that energy on the defensive end. And unfortunately it's
Speaker 2: not just Arizona, it's across the entire college landscape. Kids
Speaker 2: don't get scholarships for d and up. Reggie Gary was
Speaker 2: a defensive scholarship. Kelvin Ethan was a defensive scholarship. There's
Speaker 2: tons of big men that have played at Arizona that
Speaker 2: were defensive scholarships.
Speaker 5: Eugene Edgerson, Jesse.
Speaker 2: Perry, like, we always kept enforcers and guys who could
Speaker 2: get out to you on the out front. You know,
Speaker 2: Kyle Fogg was a defensive scholarship. Who is going to
Speaker 2: sit there and sit down in a defensive position for
Speaker 2: thirty seconds and lock somebody up and close a turnover.
Speaker 2: It's really mental when you think about it because this
Speaker 2: team is athletic as hell, so I'd like to see
Speaker 2: them turn up the defensive intensity, deflection steals, and like
Speaker 2: you said, create some of those open court opportunities.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, and I've thought this, I've talked
Speaker 3: about it a lot on the show, and I Okay,
Speaker 3: back in the day, you guys didn't have it. You
Speaker 3: guys had to earn your keep all that stuff. My
Speaker 3: biggest concern, at least right now is the kids are
Speaker 3: getting paid. Now, why do they have to work? They're
Speaker 3: getting paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the conundrum that all the college coaches find
Speaker 2: themselves in. That's why a lot of the old school
Speaker 2: college coaches have retired because back in the day, your
Speaker 2: job was to make two and two equal five.
Speaker 5: Take the ingredients you had and cook up.
Speaker 2: A good team and get some good results, get the
Speaker 2: most out of each player player, develop a player over
Speaker 2: multiple years, so you know what you've got coming back.
Speaker 2: All that's out the window with nil. Now you have
Speaker 2: this financial component where everybody's individually and agenda is financial.
Speaker 2: If I'm not getting playing time, then I'm not getting points.
Speaker 2: If I'm not getting points, I'm not earning nil.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to transfer.
Speaker 2: So every year the coaches have to re recruit their
Speaker 2: own guys, Plus they have to keep an eye on
Speaker 2: the portal for who's unhappy, because on every team, any
Speaker 2: team that gets over twenty five wins, players six, seven
Speaker 2: and eight are probably looking to transfer and cash in
Speaker 2: off that team's success.
Speaker 5: Because that's just the way the portals set up right now.
Speaker 2: So what you've done is you've destroyed the coach's ability
Speaker 2: to create chemistry.
Speaker 5: You've destroyed his leverage that he ever had.
Speaker 2: Over any other players, including in football, and you've totally
Speaker 2: destroyed the cohesiveness that every team needs. I didn't slide
Speaker 2: over and take a charge at Arizona because I wanted to.
Speaker 5: I did it because I love the guys.
Speaker 2: I was hooping with and that's what we needed to
Speaker 2: do to beat whoever we were playing. I didn't dive
Speaker 2: on loose balls. I didn't play hurt because I wanted to.
Speaker 2: I played hurt because the guys were asking me, yes, here.
Speaker 5: Are you good? Can you go? And they needed me.
Speaker 2: That is gone, now, completely gone, and it'll never come back.
Speaker 5: So imagine coaching a team and.
Speaker 2: They've taken your leverage, They've destroyed your chemistry, and they've
Speaker 2: made it impossible for guys to be selfless. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's the current state of college basketball.
Speaker 3: So you would agree with me that that's a fair evaluation.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, I think guys are playing for themselves, and you.
Speaker 5: Got a lot of guys now they don't even care.
Speaker 2: It used to be the pathway that the NBA went
Speaker 2: through college, right, That's why you put up with the
Speaker 2: abuse and you ran the sprints and you did the
Speaker 2: six am workouts because there was some gold at the
Speaker 2: end of the rainbow and you were willing to do
Speaker 2: whatever you had to do.
Speaker 5: For four years to try to get your shot at
Speaker 5: that gold.
Speaker 2: Now you got guys coming into college like, Yo, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna be a pirate. Cody knows we're a bunch
Speaker 2: of pirates in the insurance game. I'm just going to
Speaker 2: be a pirate and try to make two million dollars
Speaker 2: over three or four or five years and just ride.
Speaker 5: Off into the sunset with that money. They don't even
Speaker 5: care about going to the NBA.
Speaker 2: They're looking at college as this commercial enterprise that they
Speaker 2: can kind of step into. Get a bunch of money,
Speaker 2: go from school to school to school, get red shirts,
Speaker 2: years and then do whatever they have to do and
Speaker 2: they're content with the nil money. You got guys out
Speaker 2: here making two three hundred thousand dollars a year, and
Speaker 2: if he's a halfway decent player, he may make that for.
Speaker 4: Four or five years, Corey, before sorry, see before you
Speaker 4: got on, Steve and I were talking about the good
Speaker 4: old days when we first met, and we thought Steve
Speaker 4: was the wealthiest friend we had because he had a
Speaker 4: full time job at the Citizen and he paid for
Speaker 4: pay per view fighting over it.
Speaker 3: Is making twenty two twenty two.
Speaker 4: Thousand bucks a year. Oh oh man, that was a lot.
Speaker 4: And can you imagine like eighteen nineteen twenty year olds
Speaker 4: are kind of even equipped have that kind of money,
Speaker 4: Like it'd be like one out of maybe ten will
Speaker 4: be able to invest it and make money on it.
Speaker 4: And then I just saw yesterday, I don't know, Steve,
Speaker 4: that Doug Gottlieb is now coach, first year coach. He benched.
Speaker 3: I saw the.
Speaker 4: Leading scorer in the country didn't play him a second, right,
Speaker 4: and they got Joe bid twenty five points right right?
Speaker 4: And what did you see that?
Speaker 5: Corey?
Speaker 3: I didn't see that story, but I mean, let me
Speaker 3: let me give you this, Corey, let me give you
Speaker 3: this other scenario. It's nineteen ninety six. Let's say nil
Speaker 3: is going on. I'll give you you JB, Reggie, Joe McClain,
Speaker 3: Ben and who am I'm missing point guard? I think
Speaker 3: that's about it. Five five seniors, right, So, so, okay,
Speaker 3: Corey makes two hundred, Reggie makes one fifty. Whoever makes
Speaker 3: one hundred, to me, that would be a problem because
Speaker 3: this dude's making more than me. How could that happen?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. We're all seeing you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying that that becomes an issue too.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't. It doesn't because here's the thing about athletes. Athletes,
Speaker 2: no what's going on in the locker room.
Speaker 4: We practice together.
Speaker 2: And if someone is kicking the crap out of me
Speaker 2: every day in practice and he's getting two hundred and
Speaker 2: I'm getting one fifty, I'm not really tripping steed because
Speaker 2: I know it's real.
Speaker 5: He's better than me. I know why he's getting more.
Speaker 5: There's a there's a there's a settling freshman.
Speaker 2: Athletes, even in well, freshman has to prove his worth
Speaker 2: on the team.
Speaker 5: You know they're gonna get Hayes.
Speaker 4: Right back to Steve's question, what if what if you're
Speaker 4: a senior they have a freshman come in, you know,
Speaker 4: just insert name, and that freshman's getting four yeah, just
Speaker 4: to be here on reputation and you're making a hundred
Speaker 4: and you're kicking his better practice.
Speaker 2: As a young person, yeah, you know, twenty one year
Speaker 2: old me would have a hard time swallowing that. Now
Speaker 2: that I'm older and I'm like, okay, this kid's the future.
Speaker 5: Hey, we just got Mike Bibbie.
Speaker 2: He's the number one player in the country and he's
Speaker 2: gonna make more than il than you as a senior. Well,
Speaker 2: I wasn't the number one player in the country, and
Speaker 2: I wasn't you know, so I could probably wrap my
Speaker 2: head around it, but it would be tough because athletes
Speaker 2: are competitive. We're talking about an era and I wanted
Speaker 2: to touch on the kJ Lewis thing. We're talking about
Speaker 2: the era where players earned everything they got. So when
Speaker 2: you give a kid nil money, he's still got to
Speaker 2: prove something to his teammates. He still does the nil
Speaker 2: money equal playing time. I mean, you talked about Doug
Speaker 2: Gottlieb and what he did. There's this connection now between.
Speaker 2: You have to play who you pay. Otherwise you've got
Speaker 2: a donor base that's mad at you now, so it's
Speaker 2: really chaotic.
Speaker 3: You're going to talk about go ahead, Well, you know.
Speaker 2: I understand that he has to be taken out of
Speaker 2: the starting lineup so that they could develop Carter Ryan.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I get it. It's Tommy's call ultimately,
Speaker 2: but I just can't think of any conceivable way that
Speaker 2: if I earned a starting position in the off season,
Speaker 2: if we don't function best with our strongest lineup, then
Speaker 2: what are we doing? And then it speaks to this thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm not specifically going at Tommy. I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2: No one benefits from being given anything. So if you're
Speaker 2: not a starter, why are we giving you minutes and
Speaker 2: opportunities to kind of get you going, to build you up,
Speaker 2: to build you along. I come from an era where
Speaker 2: that took place at the end of blowouts. Okay, we're
Speaker 2: up twenty five four minutes ago, Freshmen, get out there
Speaker 2: and show me what you can do earn your playing
Speaker 2: time if you want more playing time.
Speaker 5: Luke did not let the.
Speaker 2: Final minutes of a blowout go to waste. He used
Speaker 2: it to see what the bench guys wanted to do
Speaker 2: if they could show themselves.
Speaker 5: Now, you got a kid.
Speaker 2: Who's got a tremendous upside, and I understand every coach
Speaker 2: has to quote unquote fine minutes for a kid, but
Speaker 2: why would you weaken the lineup to do it. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's why they paid time the big bucks.
Speaker 2: I hope it works out. I think it's gonna work out.
Speaker 2: But when I heard that, it struck a nerve with
Speaker 2: me because I remember fighting for my starting spot, then
Speaker 2: ultimately losing my starting spot to Mike Dickerson, then fighting
Speaker 2: for it again and getting it back as a senior.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, yo, I can't think of any universe
Speaker 5: in which I would ever asked to be taken out
Speaker 5: of the lineup.
Speaker 2: Given the hell that I went through, from Chris Mills
Speaker 2: to Reggie Gary, to Mike Dickerson to Miles Simon, I
Speaker 2: had to fight for that small forward position at Arizona,
Speaker 2: and I would have never given up walking out there
Speaker 2: to jump Ball and McHale.
Speaker 5: That's an honor.
Speaker 2: If you're one of those five guys, your name isn't.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily exeting history, but people know who you
Speaker 2: are when you make it to the starting lineup at Arizona.
Speaker 5: So it is what it is. I'm curious to see
Speaker 5: how it's gonna work out. I hope it works out.
Speaker 2: It's just something I probably never could have done. But
Speaker 2: then again, I played thirty years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's a totally different time. Corey, as always,
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. Appreciate it, sure thing, no problem.
Speaker 5: Make sure Cody sakes you out to dinner.
Speaker 4: I don't even know it's going to be on this
Speaker 4: with Steve. I've done twice and two times in like
Speaker 4: three four years, three or four years something like that.
Speaker 4: That's kind of fine.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, cool, Thanks Cory again, appreciate it. You said him,
Speaker 3: he's who's writing the check. You were him for the
Speaker 3: dinners at Flemings. Uh, Corey, Okay, let's go. We're gonna
Speaker 3: take a break and get some breaking news from Henry
Speaker 3: on the other side.