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<v Speaker 1>Get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So it's about five minutes after eight pm

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern time, eastern daylight time. I guess it is right

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<v Speaker 2>now here and what they used to call America on

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<v Speaker 2>the East coast, And it is the twenty fourth day

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<v Speaker 2>of April twenty twenty six, right allegedly according to the

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<v Speaker 2>thing we call a calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the live open mic Friday night O'Kelly effect.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go all the way up to ten pm.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what we'll be doing. Me and my co host.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to each other. If you guys don't call in,

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<v Speaker 2>but I sure do hope you will call in and

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<v Speaker 2>join us. Three one nine five two seven five zero

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<v Speaker 2>one six three one nine five two seven five zero

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<v Speaker 2>one six That is the number to join into this,

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<v Speaker 2>and quite frankly, I hope that you do. And you

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<v Speaker 2>got something to this that isn't what's on my mind

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<v Speaker 2>right now or what's been on my mind recently. A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things happening. We've given we we've given away

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<v Speaker 2>most of the puppies, but we still got a view

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<v Speaker 2>just just for the record, and all the bills paid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I indicated that, but actually one of them

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<v Speaker 2>got finalized today. Uh, and so that's all good. And

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<v Speaker 2>again I want to thank you know, the following people

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<v Speaker 2>that's ed Bat, Pete, Danny from CALLI and of course

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<v Speaker 2>regular Joe who helped out to do that, but also

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<v Speaker 2>our friend Jimmy James made a contribution recently, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank anybody who does. But guess what, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the list. And those are the usual suspects,

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<v Speaker 2>no offense, but those are the guys that do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know if you're not one of those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're hearing my voice right now, yeah, anyway, it

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is. And I've offered, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>to do more broadcasts and everything. This week, I had

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<v Speaker 2>doctor's appointments, all kinds of crap, and quite honestly, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna attempt as a family to go to the flea

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<v Speaker 2>market tomorrow and uh see what happens, because I need

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<v Speaker 2>to make a little money and we're gonna try and

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<v Speaker 2>sell a few things from around the house and see

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<v Speaker 2>how that works out. Uh, and I'm gonna bring uh

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<v Speaker 2>the excess baseball cards that we picked up. But also

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<v Speaker 2>I sent out gifts to everybody and I'm hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from some of those guys tonight about what it

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<v Speaker 2>is they got and if they were happy with it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. So you know, it is yet

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<v Speaker 2>again another Friday, like I said, And just now it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting close to nine minutes after eight pm Eastern daylight time.

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<v Speaker 2>And b Pete, how are you doing this week? My friend?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm tired. It's it's been a busy damn week. It's

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<v Speaker 4>been hot as hell. I mean this full summertime here.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been in the and in fact, tonight, when we

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<v Speaker 4>get done, I might go take a dip in the

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<v Speaker 4>pool that I worked on two weeks ago getting it

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<v Speaker 4>ready for the season, just to cool off and get

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<v Speaker 4>the hell out of the house. But oh, it's been

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<v Speaker 4>a productive week. I got all the power to all

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<v Speaker 4>the outlets in the garage done. Now we've been stripping

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<v Speaker 4>bys all day and pulling sixty year old You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised my garage hasn't burned down with the old

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<v Speaker 4>Romix that they had running through this thing. Some of

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<v Speaker 4>it's older than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now that's the stuff you talked about, damn old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the stuff you talked about that you went and

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<v Speaker 2>they increased the price on it right when you went

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<v Speaker 2>to either Home Deep or those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the stuff I'm pulling out now is the old.

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<v Speaker 4>It's covered in a in a type of cloth where

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<v Speaker 4>you know today's it's covered in a type of plastic

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<v Speaker 4>that you know in fact. In fact, the power going

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<v Speaker 4>from my box on the house to the garage. You

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<v Speaker 4>can bury this stuff in the ground. You don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to run it through conduit. But the stuff I'm pulling

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<v Speaker 4>out out is over sixty five years old, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>old cloth covered. I don't know what they called it

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<v Speaker 4>back then. I don't know. Romex is a brand name

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<v Speaker 4>on electrical wire. But this stuff is so old. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm popping down old fluorescent lights and putting up bellied

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<v Speaker 4>lights which are a lot more economical. And you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to deal with eight foot glass tubes breaking and

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<v Speaker 4>shattering in your face when you're working in a shop.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's been a productive week. And other than that,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a battle going with the town on leaf

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<v Speaker 4>and debris pick up, and I'm getting ready to start

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<v Speaker 4>playing dirty with them next week. So we'll update you

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<v Speaker 4>on that saga.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, leave so Petty hang on leaf pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the problem. Are they telling you you're giving them

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<v Speaker 2>too many bags of leaves or something? What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, my yard, I've got some of the biggest oldest

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<v Speaker 4>oak trees in towns still lind my yard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got one oak tree out there. It probably measures

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen foot round. Okay, I mean it's huge. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in the winter time, this past winter was brutally cold,

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<v Speaker 4>So any days that it was sunny and you could

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<v Speaker 4>get outside, the wind was blowing. It was cold. I

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<v Speaker 4>ain't get a lot done. So this spring I've been

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<v Speaker 4>cleaning up all of that leaf to brie and everything

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<v Speaker 4>in the yard. And I'm still clearing out in the

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<v Speaker 4>back corner some stuff that's been grown up. Anyway, we

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<v Speaker 4>put our bags, We have to bag our leaves. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a vacuum truck here, and what they do

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<v Speaker 4>is they come by with a huge dumpster truck and

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<v Speaker 4>a front end loader and they pick up all the

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<v Speaker 4>limbs and the leaves and everything. They put them in

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<v Speaker 4>the bucket, dump them in the truck and they go

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<v Speaker 4>and up till now, there's been no issue on what

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<v Speaker 4>they'll pick up. Well, supposedly last year they changed the rule,

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<v Speaker 4>although they didn't enforce it, and I had put Normally

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<v Speaker 4>they come by Monday start at seven thirty. They do

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<v Speaker 4>weekly leaf pick up. So I had my by, had

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<v Speaker 4>worked over the weekend and I put maybe ten bags

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<v Speaker 4>out there, and they came by. They didn't come on Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>They had something else they were doing, so I kept

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<v Speaker 4>working in the yard. Well by Thursday I had thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four bags. Wow, so they come over the way we

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<v Speaker 4>need to get you know, the weekend goes by. They

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<v Speaker 4>come last Monday and they only take ten bags, leave

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<v Speaker 4>the other twenty four sitting out there. So I called

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<v Speaker 4>city hall. What's the deal? Oh well, I said, I've

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<v Speaker 4>got thirty bags out there. They only picked up ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, we've got a new policy where we only

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<v Speaker 4>pick up ten bags. It's on our website. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>well when did this come into effect, Oh last year?

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<v Speaker 4>I said, Well, it wasn't enforced last year, right, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I need you come pick up my leaves. Well, if

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<v Speaker 4>they got the ten bag, that's all they have, that's

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<v Speaker 4>all they're required to do. So I go on the

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<v Speaker 4>town's website and sure enough, it says we will pick

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<v Speaker 4>up ten bags per house each week up to one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred gallons each. Well, one hundred gallon trash bag is

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<v Speaker 4>big enough to go in one of these wheelly bins

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody puts their trash in now and still have

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<v Speaker 4>some overlap in the sides, pretty damn good sized back. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you fill them up with wet leaves in that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they just ripping tears hard to get them

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<v Speaker 4>out to the curb. So I told the lady, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you'll pick up ten bags up to one hundred gallons,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a thousand gallons of leaves, right, yes, I said, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>my bags are only thirty nine gallons each, so you

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<v Speaker 4>should be picking up two and a half of my

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<v Speaker 4>bags for every one hundred gallon.

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<v Speaker 2>Bag and something like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, but I said, not only that, it also says

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<v Speaker 4>on the website that you'll pick up two pickup truckloads

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<v Speaker 4>of limbs and sticks, which is the equipment, and they

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<v Speaker 4>put in parentheses two cubic yards. I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have any leaves and sticks, so two qbic yards

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<v Speaker 4>is another four hundred and seven mod gallons of leaves.

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<v Speaker 4>You should have gotten all the money and needing to

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<v Speaker 4>one go right, Well, she wanted to argue about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, all right, So I didn't say anything

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<v Speaker 4>for the rest of last week. This Monday, they come

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<v Speaker 4>by and they only pick up nine bags. So up

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<v Speaker 4>the twenty four I had out there, I still got

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen left.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen yeah, okay, so yeah, anymore, you haven't added any more.

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<v Speaker 4>Though, right, No, No, I haven't put any more out there.

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<v Speaker 4>So I called the town hall again. I said, they

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<v Speaker 4>only picked up nine bags. Well, but I said, last

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<v Speaker 4>week you said they pick up ten. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>on the website right, Well, yes, I said, Well, so

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<v Speaker 4>they need to come back and get another bag. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not going to turn around and go back, just

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<v Speaker 4>get one bag. I said, okay, oh god, I'll play

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<v Speaker 4>this game. So I was talking with this girl. She says,

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<v Speaker 4>I can hear another lady in the background, and she

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<v Speaker 4>gets on the phone and says, look, can I transferre

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<v Speaker 4>it for you to my phone because this person has

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<v Speaker 4>a meeting starting in about ten minutes. And they said okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 4>So he switched me over right, and I have to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the whole story again with her. Okay, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>And today they only came and got nine bags. They

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<v Speaker 4>need to come back and get another bag. Well, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to turn around and drive it back just

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<v Speaker 4>to get another back. I said, well, if they're supposed to,

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<v Speaker 4>if they're supposed to pick up ten and they only

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<v Speaker 4>got nine, they need to come get another bag, because

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<v Speaker 4>then that leaves me. We'll be, you know, fifteen still

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<v Speaker 4>out here. She goes, well, what is your name? And

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<v Speaker 4>I tell her my name? What is your number? And

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<v Speaker 4>I give her my numbers? I said, is this a

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<v Speaker 4>policy that the town council voted on or did the

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<v Speaker 4>new city manager come up with this new rule? You know? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about that. Yeah, but you know I've

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<v Speaker 4>had I know they've had some equipment breakdowns. I said, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I said they had two trucks and a front end loader.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, we got one more truck than we had

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<v Speaker 4>all of last summer. So I don't know what equipment

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<v Speaker 4>broke down, but it was all out in front of

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<v Speaker 4>my house today. Well, Thursday, yesterday they got a grant

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<v Speaker 4>to redo a lot of the water lines that are real,

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<v Speaker 4>real old. So they were working on this side street

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<v Speaker 4>and an intersection is in front of it, and they've

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<v Speaker 4>been out there working all day. Why get didn't take

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<v Speaker 4>a shower and I get out of the shower and

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<v Speaker 4>I look outside, and I noticed there's the leaf truck

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<v Speaker 4>and the front endloader watching the guys doing the work

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<v Speaker 4>on the pipeline. Okay, so they get out and they

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<v Speaker 4>take twelve bags and leave three sitting there still in

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<v Speaker 4>the same spot. They leave and get this. They leave

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<v Speaker 4>and go dump the truck and come back and are

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<v Speaker 4>sitting out there in the street. So I am I

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<v Speaker 4>gonna say anything. I just want to see what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the town manager was supposed to call me Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not called me all week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So now they've taken thirty one bags in three trips

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<v Speaker 4>and still have three sitting out there, and I've yet

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't done that question Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay. But Sunday I'm gonna go out there. You

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<v Speaker 4>know the little shopping bags you get from Dollar General

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<v Speaker 2>Store, regular grocery bags.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm will go out there and I'm gonna fill up

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<v Speaker 4>twelve of them with leaves and tie them off and

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<v Speaker 4>stack them in a row out there to the three

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<v Speaker 4>big thirty nine gallon bags they are still sitting out there,

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<v Speaker 4>and see if they're only gonna pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Up ten, if they only pick up ten little those.

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<v Speaker 4>Ten bags, those ten little bags are not even gonna

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<v Speaker 4>fill up one normal turn ass bag. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>see if they leave them sitting out there, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be in a nice neat road, just like I had

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<v Speaker 4>the other ones. There's gonna be. I'm gonna put twelve

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<v Speaker 4>little shopping bags of leaves, you know, waste paper basket

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<v Speaker 4>size bags, b peats, and see if they pick them up.

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<v Speaker 2>P Pete's war with bureaucracy over the leaves.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna get good because.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. I gotta still got a dumb question,

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<v Speaker 4>I will take all of this down to the town

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<v Speaker 4>council meeting in May and bring it up there and

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<v Speaker 4>asking what the why are they being so damn petty

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<v Speaker 4>that they won't pick up If they had taken an

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<v Speaker 4>extra bag every time, all the bags would be gone.

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<v Speaker 4>But one day it's ten, the next day it's nine,

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<v Speaker 4>the third day it's twelve. So what the hell is

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<v Speaker 4>the policy? We're gonna find out with ten little shopping

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<v Speaker 4>bags on Monday?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he first off, I'm confused by the numbers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're arguing overweight on the leaves, which is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Gallons of leaves, gallons of leaves. But on top of it, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I wonder though, what would happen. Don't you

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<v Speaker 2>have a neighbor who doesn't put out leaves? Maybe and

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<v Speaker 2>you could put some bags in front of their house

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<v Speaker 2>and that would solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Or no, Well, yeah, that's gonna be my next resort.

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<v Speaker 4>If they don't pick up the if they don't pick

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<v Speaker 4>up the twelve little bags I put out there, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>is left, I'm going to take half of them and

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<v Speaker 4>put them in front of my neighbor's house. They can

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<v Speaker 4>know exactly where they've come from. You see, if they

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<v Speaker 4>stop and get them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they'd have to because those are bags now in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the neighbor's house. And are they going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to prove those are the same they're.

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<v Speaker 4>The same bag the bag handles?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? What is this world coming to? Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Life is life in small town. I mean it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I could understand them last week, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>the truck was full normally because there as a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>times when I put twenty bags out there, uh, me

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<v Speaker 4>and the guy across the street. Hell, we might have

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five bags, right, he's out there at one

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<v Speaker 4>back and they would always pick them up, no questions asked.

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<v Speaker 4>But we've had some new hires and some people have retired,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have a new city manure well town manager.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, there's no time on what the hell

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<v Speaker 4>the problem is. But we're gonna find out here very soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna be on like one of my life?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Are you gonna be on one of those

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<v Speaker 2>town council meetings that like I can watch on on

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<v Speaker 2>like YouTube? Uh? Like? Like do they do?

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<v Speaker 4>They broadcast Facebook? Because somebody will probably keep filming them.

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<v Speaker 4>When I mentioned that I've got twelve little shopping bags

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<v Speaker 4>the size of a waste paper basket, they refused to

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<v Speaker 4>pick them up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nuts, man, I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a little Peyton place here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I gotta see you yelling at the town council

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<v Speaker 2>people though. That's gotta be funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh So now you remember though Harper Valley Pta, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, that's how petty this damn place is. So

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna say we're gonna try them, Because then I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go out and actually buy some hundred gallon

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<v Speaker 4>plastic bags and see them wrestle those suckers into the

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<v Speaker 4>bucket of a front end low.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, because I look, it sounds to me like

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<v Speaker 2>you should just, you know, take the one hundred gallon bags

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<v Speaker 2>and throw the thirty nine gallon bags in and then

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<v Speaker 2>use the shopping bags to throw in there too, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't have to repack at all, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I wondered. That was my next that was

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<v Speaker 4>my next thing. If I take like two hundred little

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<v Speaker 4>shopping bags and put leaves in them and stick them

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<v Speaker 4>all in one one hundred gallon bag. See, because they

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<v Speaker 4>don't take the bags, they open them up, dump them

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<v Speaker 4>into the bucket of the endloader, and then leave all

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<v Speaker 4>the bags in your yard to blow around the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're at work when they come by, your

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<v Speaker 4>bags could be four street, you know, four houses down

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<v Speaker 4>in somebody's yard. That the way they do this used

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<v Speaker 4>to they took them with them, but now they don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to take them with them, so they just leave

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<v Speaker 4>them in your yard for the wind to blow everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, they're just littering. And if there's enough bags in

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<v Speaker 2>the town, you got like bags blowing through your town

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<v Speaker 2>like tumbleweeds. Dude, what exactly exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>And they they fight you with fines if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>keep your yard cleaned up, and you can't burn open

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<v Speaker 4>like the church does three blocks from here every Thursday

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<v Speaker 4>before you know services on the weekend, their little landscaper.

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<v Speaker 4>He openly picks everything up, throws it in their little

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<v Speaker 4>outdoor burn area and just sets it on fire. Of

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<v Speaker 4>course when they're a burn band now because of the drought.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, so they don't enforce any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't burn it, it's got to be in bags.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't keep it cleaned up, we'll find you.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you put it on the street, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to pick it up. So and in essence has

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<v Speaker 4>taken them three weeks to pick up bags. They could

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<v Speaker 4>have gotten three weeks ago, oh man. But they want

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<v Speaker 4>to be petty. So you know, that's our great battle

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that's cracking me up is that this is

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing with your retirement. I'm sorry, it's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you.

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<v Speaker 4>So retire thing left after using shopping bags is to

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<v Speaker 4>go get a bunch of damn sandwich bags and fill

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<v Speaker 4>up a thousand of those and sit them out there

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<v Speaker 4>in a little line and see if they'll dump them.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have the patience to do that. Good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a call, take a couple of bong here.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd be surprised, he'd be surprised. How you can entertain

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<v Speaker 4>your tail filling up bags and leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's true. I mean, you know, I can entertain

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<v Speaker 2>myself with, you know, just a stick anybody's smoking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean just the sticks, not even doing anything

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<v Speaker 2>with this cubic yards the sticks. Yeah, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need two cubic yards. I could just have a small

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<v Speaker 2>handheld that will keep me busy if I'm high enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But I haven't been that high in a long time anyways.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have callers, all right, and hopefully we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>some more three one nine, five, two seven five zero

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<v Speaker 2>one six. So I'm gonna go to them and see

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<v Speaker 2>what else is going on. And look, we got at

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<v Speaker 2>least an hour and a half left to the show,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's only twenty four minutes after eight pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>daylight time. Uh, and we're live here on the Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fourth of April twenty twenty sixth Okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get to one of the callers and see

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<v Speaker 2>where it goes. And I think we got Jimmy James

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<v Speaker 2>up first. Jimmy, how you doing? Man?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh good?

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<v Speaker 2>Here Chuck, okay, so what's up?

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<v Speaker 7>How's the sun coming in?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a little distorted, but I'm seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>I can do with it. Hopefully you can hear us. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it is a little distorted and break breaking

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. How about now, well that's better for

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<v Speaker 2>a second there, I thought you were outside, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is better. Yes, go ahead. Uh that's Joe that too.

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<v Speaker 7>Who's the other caller? But is it Danny?

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<v Speaker 2>It does look like it's Danny. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Well I love hearing Danny and talk to the Danny.

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<v Speaker 7>Danny is a truthful person. Yeah, she doesn't lie, he

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't his belief She's very forthcoming and he's a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 7>I like talking to the Danny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, me too. Matter of fact, I spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>Danny off air earlier today.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>A good guy. You know, he works odd hours, so

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate that he makes the time to call in.

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<v Speaker 2>But you want me to go over to Danny first,

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<v Speaker 2>Let you kind of marinate on what you want to discuss,

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<v Speaker 2>and go get him.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there's no reason we can't. I'm album my, So

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<v Speaker 7>Danny could say whatever he wants. I mean, I like

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<v Speaker 7>the option to be able to say something, Tom because

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<v Speaker 7>I don't like I said, I like talking to Danny.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, probably that, Hey, no problem, you hang on Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll put Danny on. I think he might have

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<v Speaker 2>a I got a hint that he might have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things on his mind that he was hearing

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<v Speaker 2>about recently, and so good. I'll bring Danny on next

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<v Speaker 2>if he's ready to talk. Hey, Danny, you you can

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<v Speaker 2>hear me. Okay, right, good evening.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can hear you, just fine, excellent. Hey, the

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<v Speaker 4>reason call is you.

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<v Speaker 9>Had this week Larry Hancock and David Boiling with the

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<v Speaker 9>Oswell puzzle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was last week.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I I heard it like

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<v Speaker 9>a couple of nights ago as I was working in

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<v Speaker 9>my oddball hours.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was it was kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 9>I have to get the book and read it because

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<v Speaker 9>they were talking about these qubu's. They were kind of like,

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<v Speaker 9>at one hand they knew oswell, they supported them. Other

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<v Speaker 9>moments they were like any in Oswald? Uh, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 9>who exactly were these Cubans as well?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of them, Danny. And there's two groups

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<v Speaker 2>specifically that that wind up sort of in Oswald's orbit

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<v Speaker 2>when he's in New Orleans especially.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's really strange because these are two groups of

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<v Speaker 2>Cubans that should be at each other's throats because one

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<v Speaker 2>side to them is extremely virulent anti Castro. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen early nineteen sixties there, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one to sixty three, these guys are highly active.

425
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<v Speaker 2>The other group is pro Castro. Okay. And you know

426
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<v Speaker 2>one one group or the other is involved with different

427
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<v Speaker 2>government agencies for different reasons, okay, either being investigated by

428
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<v Speaker 2>them or literally working as operatives for the CIA. Okay.

429
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<v Speaker 2>So you have a huge mix of guys here, and

430
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.839
<v Speaker 2>you know this specific list. To be honest with you,

431
00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I often mix them up unless I've actually got them

432
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<v Speaker 2>on paper in front of me, because their names are

433
00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of similar and all that. And there is a

434
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<v Speaker 2>whole thing that goes on where Oswald is spotted with

435
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:55.160
<v Speaker 2>different guys from different factions, and simultaneously he's going out

436
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>on the streets in New Orleans. And you probably know

437
00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:59.599
<v Speaker 2>this pretty well. Then he went out and he handed

438
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<v Speaker 2>out Castro leaflets, right, And that ends up getting filmed

439
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.279
<v Speaker 2>by the local TV station and he ends up getting

440
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a radio interview and a TV interview, et cetera, but

441
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>also winds up getting into a scuffle. Okay, and I'm

442
00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.480
<v Speaker 2>holding up air quotes for everybody playing at home there

443
00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.279
<v Speaker 2>in the streets in New Orleans, and I mean right

444
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:24.359
<v Speaker 2>on a main thoroughfare. And the thing is he's getting

445
00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.960
<v Speaker 2>into a scuffle with guys that he approached saying that

446
00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>he's anti Castro and he was pledging to help them,

447
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and even handed over his Marine Corps Like there's a

448
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 2>handbook that they used to give in the Marine Corps,

449
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.839
<v Speaker 2>and he handed that over to them as a pledge

450
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>to help train the you know, the anti Castro Cubans. Right,

451
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.839
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm a former Marine, I'm a patriot, and

452
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<v Speaker 2>I want to help you guys. You know, I'm anti

453
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.279
<v Speaker 2>communist all that and he hands over his marine book

454
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<v Speaker 2>and this guy Carlos Berenguer, who is a fascinating figure

455
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<v Speaker 2>in of himself. If do you know who that guy is?

456
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 4>No?

457
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:06.880
<v Speaker 9>I don't.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that's the let's say, the leader of that

459
00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 2>little group that winds up confronting him, because again earlier,

460
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, in that week, he's talking to them, pledging

461
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to help them as a former marine and a patriot, right,

462
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and there's and they're anti castro. So they show up

463
00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, you're handing out you know, pro castro crap.

464
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<v Speaker 2>And then they have this scuffle in the street where

465
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Oswald gets arrested. He has to go to court, you know,

466
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Berengere goes to court, and the only guy who ends up,

467
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, pleading guilty and paying a fine is Oswald. Okay,

468
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 2>but it's interesting they were talking about during that show

469
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 2>who showed up in court with him, which was not

470
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>something that was ever widely known previously, or at least

471
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.119
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of years, it was not known that

472
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<v Speaker 2>you know, certain guys showed up with him. Who were

473
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<v Speaker 2>they connected to? You know, there's the d which is

474
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<v Speaker 2>the Cuban Revolutionary student group. Uh that that's you know

475
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 2>there as well. There's people obviously that are pro Castro

476
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 2>and anti Castro right there in the courtroom, just to

477
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>witness Oswald getting at the time something like a ten

478
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>dollars fine, you know, which in sixty three was a

479
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 2>fairly significant amount of money, I guess, you know, for

480
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:30.160
<v Speaker 2>disturbing the peace or whatever he was doing. So that's

481
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>what they were describing there. Have I helped fill in

482
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<v Speaker 2>anything for you yet, Danny?

483
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:37.640
<v Speaker 9>Yes, And.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Well you you totally broke up there. I'm sorry. I

485
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear what you said.

486
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no, no, no, you're filling that, You're filling the

487
00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 9>blood up.

488
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:05.839
<v Speaker 2>So okay, cool. So hey, Jimmy, is there anything you

489
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>wanted to add to this? Because I know you know

490
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>something about this as well, and you know you and

491
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I have discussed the New Orleans thing before, and obviously

492
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I talked about it on the show with Joan Mellon,

493
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>and I mean a bunch of different people really about

494
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, you know, Oswald and New Orleans. So anything

495
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>you want to add there or do you think I

496
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 2>missed something that's good for a broad stroke here?

497
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Verty much now?

498
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 2>But okay, So b Pete, did you happen to hear

499
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>that show. By the way, maybe sorry, I thought you

500
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 2>were done.

501
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 7>Just say, yeah, you pretty much summed it up. I

502
00:26:55.759 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 7>mean I was trying to tell the crow guy that's

503
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:06.359
<v Speaker 7>on the bar.

504
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, he ran into those guys in a bar. Sorry,

505
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>what was that? Okay? Well. The other thing to note here, though,

506
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.519
<v Speaker 2>is that Danny just this is what always fascinates me

507
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 2>about it is that he is there supposedly representing the

508
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 2>fair Play for Cuba Committee, right, And the fair Play

509
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>for Cuba Committee was a legitimate organization, but they didn't

510
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>have a chapter in New Orleans. Oswald was claiming, even

511
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 2>when he was interviewed to be the treasurer of the

512
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 2>group in New Orleans, which is the fair Play for

513
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Cuba Committee chapter, and you know of that area, it

514
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist. He made it up, even made up membership

515
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>cards and all this, and fabricated the idea that he's

516
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the treasurer of this non existent group, which I always

517
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 2>found rather interesting. Okay, but yeah, but the group exists,

518
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 2>but not a chapter in New Orleans, you understand. And yeah,

519
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 2>so Oswald's making stuff up for a reason, obviously, but

520
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>it's difficult to suss out what that reason is unless

521
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>you conclude that he's actually working for somebody in some

522
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:31.079
<v Speaker 2>sort of intelligence operation. Now coincidentally, in the summer of

523
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty three, and I say coincidentally, biting my tongue

524
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>while I say it, you know, the CIA actually had

525
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>a full on campaign to discredit, undermine, and infiltrate the

526
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Fair Play for Cuba Committee at exactly the same time

527
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 2>that Oswald is making up this chapter in New Orleans.

528
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Not saying that we can prove that he's connected to

529
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the CIA that way, but it is rather interesting that

530
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 2>it parallels so closely with that actual operation. And obviously,

531
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, the CIA, the FBI, they were involved with,

532
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, infiltrating and you know, discrediting all the communist

533
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>organizations because we used to have a bunch of them

534
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>in the country, and you know, even the h what

535
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 2>he called the American Communist Party, et cetera. I mean, anyways,

536
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Oswald is writing to some of these organizations, but he

537
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 2>never formally joins any of them, and he doesn't establish

538
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, even

539
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 2>though again, like I said, he claims to be the treasurer.

540
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>And you know who does he claim to be the

541
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 2>president or you know, the the head of the local chapter.

542
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 2>There well a guy named Hidel, which is his alias. Okay,

543
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>so you know he's the head, he's the treasurer, and

544
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>he picks different names and also puts him on his

545
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>po box just saying is it's one of those weird

546
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.319
<v Speaker 2>things that Oswald was doing. And then because he couldn't

547
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>really hold down a job. Oh and by the way,

548
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the guys you see him handing out the flyers with

549
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>in that film footage, he hired them from a temp agency.

550
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 2>So you know, his little gaggle of you know commies

551
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 2>that are out on the street are all paid just

552
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 2>to show up and hand out flyers. You know, he

553
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 2>paid him, like, I don't know, ten bucks again, I

554
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:28.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know why ten bucks keeps coming up in my head.

555
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>But he paid him a couple of dollars to walk

556
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 2>around with him and hand out fair Play for Cuba

557
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Committee literature to anybody would take it.

558
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got a question, Yeah, go ahead, be pete.

559
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 4>When Oswald was doing all this, I mean, you know,

560
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 4>when I started work in seventy three, I was thirteen

561
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 4>years old, right, and it was like about thirty thirty

562
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 4>five an hour was minimum wage. Now this was back

563
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 4>in the sixties. Oswald had a face. He was paying rent,

564
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 4>he was taking buses and things of that nature when

565
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 4>he was near But how could he afford to hire

566
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 4>people and print circulars where the money have what to

567
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 4>see his tax returns? Yeah, he can understand. You know,

568
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 4>someone living it's against the law to release their tax returns.

569
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 4>So why is that the one thing that's not come

570
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.640
<v Speaker 4>out of all this file release as where he was

571
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 4>getting his day on money? Because I just don't understand

572
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 4>how he had the money to do everything that he

573
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 4>supposedly did. Who was funding it?

574
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need special permission from the IRS to get

575
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 2>somebody's tax records. I mean, you can volunteer to release

576
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>your own if you like, but in order to get

577
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>somebody's tax records, yeah, the IRS has to give special permission,

578
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 2>and they never have. Plus Marina is involved with some

579
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>of those taxes, I think, and she's still alive, right,

580
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 2>so there's a problem there, and she's never volunteered to

581
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>release them. It would be extremely helpful. But then again,

582
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe for a second that he would put

583
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff on the books. And remember this.

584
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, Marina shortly moves to Texas and he goes

585
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 2>with her, sort of yeah, but you know that's because

586
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 2>he really couldn't pay the rent. He couldn't pay the

587
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>rent and do this other stuff, and he was working

588
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>at the see this is where Judy meets him, by

589
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the way, briefly, if at all, where he's on a

590
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>temp agency job at Riley Coffee. You know, this is

591
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>how he knew about the tempage.

592
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Though, you know, if nothing else, why you know, when

593
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 4>the Warren Commission went. Of course, the Warren Commission wasn't

594
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 4>going to do anything to put the public off on

595
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Oswald not being able to be the shooter, right, but

596
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 4>you would think something would have come out where they

597
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>checked his finances and could prove that he couldn't afford

598
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 4>to do all this stuff because he never had steady employment. Yeah,

599
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 4>it would work some where and get fired or quit,

600
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 4>and then how the hell he was funding himself between

601
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 4>those jobs. You know, it's almost like there's no possible

602
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 4>way he could have afforded to do this not working.

603
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 4>So I mean that right alone has to tell you

604
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 4>somebody is given the guy money who the government chances

605
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 4>are po Yeah.

606
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>See But here's the thing. You got to rewind that

607
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 2>all the way back to when he's in the Marine Corps,

608
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>because he leaves right supposedly on a hardship thing and

609
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:56.319
<v Speaker 2>immediately almost goes over to Minsk. And how the hell

610
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 2>does he have that money to travel? Nobody knows. And

611
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 2>then when he comes back home, don't forget the State

612
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 2>department lent him money to come back home, and he

613
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 2>paid it off in the weirdest way I ever saw.

614
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You ever see the way he paid it off. They

615
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 2>showed he paid it off with money orders. That record

616
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>is available.

617
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I.

618
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Mean he paid it off. It was like, let's just say,

619
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 2>theoretically it was four hundred and twenty one dollars and

620
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty two cents. The guy turns around and pays off, like,

621
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty dollars and thirty two cents, and then

622
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>pays off the rest of it in one bulk shot

623
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 2>shortly thereafter. Nobody knows how he made the money because

624
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>he had hardly any work in between when he made

625
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the first payment. In the second there's all kinds of

626
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.519
<v Speaker 2>questions about where does he get money to travel? Yeah?

627
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, right, but.

628
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe it took all the way up to

629
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.679
<v Speaker 4>Wappergate for some brilliant guy to come up with follow

630
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 4>the money. Yeah, you can't tell me that these guys

631
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 4>doing investigations back in the sixties didn't think follow the money.

632
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 4>And why we've known, I've seen I would love and

633
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't know who the expert is to talk to,

634
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 4>who's looked at that end of it. But where in

635
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 4>the hell was his fine who was financing him? Because

636
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 4>there's no damn way he could have done it in

637
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 4>one not working, and then when he was working, he

638
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 4>wasn't making that much money.

639
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

640
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 4>See, here's the thing. Granted, money went a lot further

641
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 4>back then. Ten dollars was a lot of money back

642
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen sixties.

643
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all true. But the funky thing about this with

644
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Oswald is that whenever we do track his payments and things,

645
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>he magically has cash. He goes and gets some money order.

646
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>That's how he pays for everything is with a damn

647
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 2>money order. Uh. And it's just like back then, you

648
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 2>know it was, I mean still today, I guess it

649
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 2>would be the same thing. If you just went and

650
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 2>bought postal money orders to pay for everything. Nobody would

651
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>know where your cash was coming from, you know, And

652
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>that's what happens with him. And the funny thing is, again,

653
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>even if we can track his employee in a bit

654
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>when he was working at Jackson Child Stowwall or whatever,

655
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and when he's uh uh you know that that's that

656
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>company that did the aerial photography and ended up processing

657
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the YouTube images and all that. Okay, uh j CS.

658
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 2>But even you know, that short lived job didn't pay

659
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 2>for stuff that he was able to do. He clearly

660
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't pay the rent because he was asked to leave

661
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>at a certain point. The FBI is monitoring his mail. Okay,

662
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 2>we know that now, Uh, but uh, nobody could figure

663
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.079
<v Speaker 2>out where any of this cash was coming from somewhere.

664
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>He was just getting cash and it wasn't from his mother,

665
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that much, because she was uh broke

666
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>all the time.

667
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 4>But she didn't have it either, No, and she had

668
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 4>no money. Yeah, you know.

669
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

670
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 4>And did his brother ever has his in the interviews

671
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 4>that his brother's done, we ever mentioned that he?

672
00:36:52.880 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Robert has said John Pick, John Pick and Rod Hello,

673
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I was just saying John Pick and Robert

674
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I go ahead, good, Yes.

675
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 7>They both picked in and so did that. I believe

676
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 7>the Marats and I would also point out that Oswald

677
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 7>was collecting unemployment and missus Payne was paying Marine ten

678
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 7>dollars a week just to live there.

679
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, supposedly for Russian lessons. But when you do the math, Jimmy,

680
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't add up. Even the money that that that

681
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 2>John and Robert claimed they gave him, right, it still

682
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 2>doesn't add You can't figure out how you can pay

683
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 2>for everything because it doesn't. It still doesn't work, you

684
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. When he's when he's traveling, when

685
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>he's got paid stuff. I know.

686
00:37:53.159 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 7>But uh, this man lived very simply. I mean he

687
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 7>was born during the depression and his mother was even worse.

688
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you what. In the nineteen seventies, when my

689
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 7>dad made minimum wage, which was I believe a dollar

690
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 7>seventy five, he paid off his mortgage and hasn't had

691
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 7>one sence, and he also bought a car. Everything was

692
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 7>paid for in the bank for a mergence to him

693
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 7>because he was responsible with his money. And by most accounts,

694
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 7>Oswald was playing just playing a penny pincher, so I

695
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 7>could easily see how he could keep keep saving money.

696
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, he's but then again you're talking about you know,

697
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>pregnant wife and pregnant wife again, you know, and and

698
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>frugal as you can be. Still he's moving around and

699
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 2>he's able to do things. He makes trips to different

700
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 2>places that just don't match up to the amount of

701
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 2>money that's alleged to be in his hands. And the

702
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>thing is, the buying power of the dollar back then

703
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>was a lot better. Of course, in the seventies, even

704
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 2>with your dad there, it was held a lot better.

705
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 2>The buying power again, I mean.

706
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.639
<v Speaker 4>In an example, good I'll give you an example. My

707
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 4>parents bought in nineteen sixty seven. They bought a brand

708
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 4>new Ford Falcon for family car. They paid twenty three

709
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars for it, right, and I mean granted it

710
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 4>wasn't you know, there went a lot of electronics on it.

711
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.679
<v Speaker 4>It was rolled down windows, basic interior. In fact, when

712
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 4>my dad got all of them, he realized the sticker

713
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 4>it called for a bigger engine than was actually in it.

714
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 4>It just had a straight six zero in it. I

715
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 4>think it was one seventy civ cubic inch displacement. So

716
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 4>he went back to the dealer and the guy says, well,

717
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.239
<v Speaker 4>mister Garrett, you know, oh we can, Well we'll I'll

718
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 4>tell you what we'll do. If you bring it in,

719
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 4>We'll get the new engine. He says, no, forget all

720
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 4>that put air conditioning on it. So we had one

721
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 4>of those Ford Moco air conditioners that sat under the

722
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 4>dash over the hump. And it was the first air

723
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.639
<v Speaker 4>conditioned car that we ever had. And we got it

724
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 4>because of a misprint on the windows sticker. Okay, great,

725
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 4>but twenty three hundred dollars for a car back then,

726
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 4>I ended up that was my first car when I

727
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 4>got my license years later. And you know, you you

728
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 4>could buy a new car for under three thousand dollars

729
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:53.360
<v Speaker 4>and have a you know, a primo ride from Ford.

730
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 4>That's the buying power back then. My parents' first house

731
00:40:56.679 --> 00:41:00.119
<v Speaker 4>I think they paid something like eighty seven hundred dollars

732
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 4>for it. You imagine buying a house for eighty seven

733
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars, a three bedroom house. You know, he was

734
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.840
<v Speaker 4>in the military and could afford to do these things.

735
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 4>He kill me once he got out. You know, it's

736
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 4>just amazing the difference between then and now. But still, Oswald,

737
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you an example. In high school, I went

738
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 4>to go get some flyers printed up. And this was

739
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 4>in the early seventies. It was expensive to go down

740
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 4>to a print shop and get something printed. And how

741
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 4>Oswald had all this disposable income. He was eating out,

742
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 4>he was getting things bought, he was purchasing mail order weapons.

743
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you think about the money he was spending.

744
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Besides what he just needed to live on. He had

745
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.159
<v Speaker 4>to have a source of income. And I can't believe

746
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 4>that in all this time, no one has been able

747
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 4>to track this stuff down.

748
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, like Jimmy said, you know, the two brother the

749
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>one you know, full brother and the one half brother

750
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, did give him some money at a certain point,

751
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know you are talking about he left the

752
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps at nineteen, right and dies at twenty four,

753
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:12.280
<v Speaker 2>so you know there's only that five year period. But still, yeah, no,

754
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't reconcile the two things, you know, because he's

755
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>jobless a lot. Jimmy said, Yeah, he did collect unemployment,

756
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>but then that ran out. I think that's why he

757
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 2>ended up at the temp agency. I might I might

758
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>have that out of order.

759
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 4>Good, but even then unemployment was was next to nothing.

760
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but that's you see, but there you go,

761
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.039
<v Speaker 2>how does he move her? How does he do stuff for?

762
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was extremely frugal. This is a guy

763
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>would you know, drink a plain cup of coffee and

764
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 2>eat a sandwich, you know, and that would be like

765
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 2>his meal, you know, twice a day. Maybe you know,

766
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 2>I get it. But at the same time, like you said,

767
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 2>he ends up at restaurants, he shows up at bars,

768
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, all kinds of things. And he does buy

769
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff clearly with cash and money orders. But it doesn't

770
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>add up. I don't know there was some source of

771
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>income here that we don't see.

772
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 4>And I can't believe no one has come across it.

773
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, believe me, people have. And you know, there is

774
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:26.639
<v Speaker 2>a whole and there's a whole proposal about getting his

775
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I r S his I r S records, But you know,

776
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't, you know, just like with most things, I

777
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you know, get too excited about it, even if

778
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>they get it, because it's not going to reveal what

779
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:39.760
<v Speaker 2>these cash payments were.

780
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 10>We might find you think he was do you think

781
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 10>he was on a government or not a government payroll?

782
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.000
<v Speaker 4>But do you think he was being paid well by

783
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.079
<v Speaker 4>some three acy well.

784
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 2>For a long time that's the way it was done, right,

785
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know, I like, why does American Express exist, right?

786
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, because they they did all kinds of things

787
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.119
<v Speaker 2>where you get very little paperwork, you know when it

788
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>comes down to exactly where you know, certain bulk bits

789
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of cash disappear to. And they also had you know,

790
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>just like they they've always had, uh you know, gray

791
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and black market sources of revenue. Uh that you know

792
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to Oh you're gonna exactly keep track. You

793
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 2>want the accountants to figure out how much drug money

794
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 2>there is that you're working with when you gotta go

795
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 2>purchase weapons for the contras or whatever. No, right, so

796
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff that's just out there. And well,

797
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, but but I'm not saying that I know

798
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 2>that with Oswald. I'm just saying that that would make

799
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 2>the most sense. But how are you gonna even come

800
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 2>up with that paper trail? You know? I mean, I

801
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>doubt anybody requisition cash for him. And you know, made

802
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>a note, is all I'm saying. And uh, and I

803
00:44:58.800 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 2>know nobody wrote him check.

804
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 4>It was all an indiscriminate on the side in some

805
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 4>agency that nobody.

806
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you know what is funny. You know what

807
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 2>else is funny.

808
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Is to get away with things back then.

809
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what's really funny is you bring up

810
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 2>the mail order weapons. Those money orders never made it

811
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.840
<v Speaker 2>all the way through the federal Reserve banks like they're

812
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>supposed to. They didn't have all this because as a

813
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>money orders. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talking about,

814
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 2>don't you.

815
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they never they never got cashed out at the end.

816
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.039
<v Speaker 2>No, they weren't finalized like they're supposed to be, Which

817
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 2>is another weird thing about the evidence, where it's like,

818
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>so you mean to tell me that coincidentally, the guy

819
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>who was the you know, president presidential assassin who purchased

820
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 2>two separate weapons, you know, from the same company with

821
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:03.599
<v Speaker 2>these money orders, right, just so happens they weren't actually

822
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 2>run all the way through the banking system like every

823
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>other money order is. You know, I guess it's possible,

824
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it looked suspicious to me. But see,

825
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.039
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. People had forensically tried to do all

826
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 2>kinds of stuff with his payments and everything else, and

827
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>at the end of it you come up with there's

828
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>cash coming well somewhere.

829
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did anybody was anybody ever able to check and

830
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 4>see if the places, I mean, I know they were

831
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 4>mail order companies and they advertised to these magazines. Has

832
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 4>anybody checked to see if they were by chance front

833
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 4>companies where the government was involved. They didn't have to

834
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 4>cast the money orders, you know. Yeah, but it was

835
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.320
<v Speaker 4>money that they gave the guy to buy the money order.

836
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But Kleines had an accounting system that sort of

837
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 2>sucked where they you know, they didn't break down every

838
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 2>money order. They created a tally sheet where they added up,

839
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, batches of money orders that they made deposits on.

840
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

841
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, what I'm saying is is is Clients was

842
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.360
<v Speaker 4>one of our you know, favorite three letter agencies working

843
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 4>through Clients. Well, it was just a front to see

844
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 4>what kind of nut jobs were ordering stuff.

845
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, if they were, as of yet it has not

846
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 2>been discovered. It appears to be just a doc Yeah,

847
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

848
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 7>The documents matched so pretty much, I've grabbed them. They'd

849
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:33.400
<v Speaker 7>mentioned all the CIA as ad agencies.

850
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. My understanding with Clients, you know, Jimmy, correct me

851
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong. My understanding with Clients is that they

852
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.159
<v Speaker 2>were perfectly willing to cooperate with any government agency that

853
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>approached them, but they weren't often. They were one of

854
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 2>the oldest, like mail order businesses of their type, and

855
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the government would approach them for information and they would

856
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>give it to them voluntary. They didn't you know, try

857
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and withhold anything or protect their customers or anything.

858
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 4>But it is impossible, just like we saw with walking

859
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 4>guns to Mexico and the dealers were going back and

860
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 4>reporting to the AT and have hey, these guys are

861
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 4>walking guns. What do you want us to do? And

862
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 4>they get told let them walk. As you know, it

863
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.440
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't surprise me to find out that our three letter

864
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 4>agency friends were working with clients running operations no mail

865
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 4>order weapons. It wouldn't that major.

866
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me put it you this way, it wouldn't

867
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>shock me either. But at the same time, I've seen

868
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>no evidence for it that indicates that that's the case.

869
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Well true, true, I'm just wouldn't necessarily see you know,

870
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 4>information to that effect.

871
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 2>No, probably not. But but you don't see a lot

872
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 2>of suspicious stuff with Kleins, is all I'm saying. Like

873
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 2>it appears to be pretty much on the up and up.

874
00:48:54.039 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 2>But again, weird stuff happens with with the Osweald transfers trouble.

875
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 7>They got sued a lot for selling that garbage those

876
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 7>garbage guns.

877
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but that's just you know, for them, that

878
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, that was the cost of doing business

879
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 2>with them, you know what I mean, because they were

880
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 2>selling them very cheap. They were selling a lot of

881
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>military surplus stuff, not just the Italian weapons. Uh, they

882
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 2>were selling you know, a lot of post World War

883
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 2>two old stuff. And uh yeah, they would get sued

884
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 2>when like somebody's you know, rifle would blow up in

885
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 2>their face. That's true. That happened quite a bit, Jimmy. True.

886
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>But they sort of just absorbed that and seemed to

887
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>go on. You know, as I said, they just appear

888
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 2>to be a regular mail order business that you know,

889
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 2>was a little like well, it was a thing of

890
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>its time. But again with the Oswald transaction, they're strange

891
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>things going on all over the place, like you know,

892
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the whole Railway Express deal where Railway Express is not

893
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.199
<v Speaker 2>supposed to deliver to a post office box, and yet

894
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the still got there, didn't it. You know, Like and

895
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 2>I know that people have told me, well, ups does

896
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 2>that now and then? And of course we have a

897
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 2>more cooperative situation with the private mail you know, businesses

898
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 2>now with the USPS, but at the time, strictly that

899
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 2>would have been against postal regulations the way I understand them,

900
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, unless I'm misreading the nineteen sixty three version

901
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 2>of them. Uh, you know, it makes no sense. But

902
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>yet things happened this way. Railway Express should have never

903
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>delivered to that post office box, and like I said,

904
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 2>it got there. You know.

905
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's amazing how things well it's opposed.

906
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 7>To It's like the travels from Oswald. They just went

907
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 7>backward to made up things to make it work. The

908
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 7>warrant mission, yeah, bid the client stuff.

909
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>They literally wiped it.

910
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Out an old that treaty and wrote that in there.

911
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 7>And as you said, those mining orders never went through

912
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:08.000
<v Speaker 7>the Federal reserve system, so that was just more proxulent

913
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 7>and commission exhibits and perjury on behalf of the FBI.

914
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>See, I agree with you in spirit, Jimmy. My problem

915
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>is I can't absolutely prove it, like to enter it

916
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>into evidence in a court. But I do agree with

917
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 2>you that's what it looks like to me. Indeed, if

918
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you take a look at the Warren Commission volumes where

919
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 2>they even they published you know, what they claimed was

920
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the form that he filled out for

921
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 2>the peel box right that you know, got the delivery.

922
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 2>It turns out that that's not actually the form from

923
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 2>the peo box. See, he got a pill box in

924
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Texas and he got one in New Orleans. So whichever

925
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 2>one it's supposed to be, the one in the Warren

926
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Commission is actually the form from the other office, and

927
00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 2>they claim it to be where the gun was received

928
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 2>as part of the chain of evidence. There's a little

929
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 2>kinds of problems with this. You know, the gun is

930
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 2>just brought up. Both guns.

931
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you just you just brought up something that just

932
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:14.400
<v Speaker 4>made me think. You know, Judithy Faker says that she

933
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 4>was at the post office in New Orleans to pick

934
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.880
<v Speaker 4>up general delivery from a letter from her husband, and

935
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, she has shown letters that she received there.

936
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 4>My question is, if Oswald's had a post office box,

937
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 4>why was he standing in line because he never did

938
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:37.920
<v Speaker 4>any transaction. Supposedly, Judithy Faker was in line and Oswald

939
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 4>was behind her, and she dropped a newspaper and he

940
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 4>picked it up and she got you know, andswer said

941
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.880
<v Speaker 4>thank you in Russian and they hit it off. Oswald

942
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.719
<v Speaker 4>didn't do any transaction, so why the fuck was he

943
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.679
<v Speaker 4>standing in line behind her? He had a post office box,

944
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 4>he had a key. All he had to do is

945
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.079
<v Speaker 4>go and open his post office box. Well you know,

946
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 4>he had a package delivery. But she makes no mention

947
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 4>of him doing any business at the counter. Alt suddenly

948
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 4>appears behind her, and then they go walking off talking

949
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 4>about there. Oh yeah, well here they wear their wedding

950
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.440
<v Speaker 4>rings on different hand and all this bullshit. That's time.

951
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I just thought of what the hell was he doing

952
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:12.920
<v Speaker 4>in line?

953
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Well that, plus, you know, how many people do you

954
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 2>think we're going to break into a conversation in Russian

955
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 2>with a perfect stranger in New Orleans in nineteen sixty three.

956
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's normal either, very thank would. Yes, well,

957
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 2>you know you got to make it romantic, you know,

958
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>by instinct and LBP. But for God's sake, no, that

959
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 2>whole story is stupid.

960
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes, what the hell was Oswald doing in line? I'll

961
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:37.400
<v Speaker 4>have to ask her that if I ever get a chance.

962
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 2>What is he doing in line? How does anybody know

963
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:45.039
<v Speaker 2>anybody can speak Russian? You know, come on, go ahead.

964
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 7>She has She has claimed that he was in line

965
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 7>to buy stamps and that's what she will claim, or

966
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 7>envelopes or whatever works.

967
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, whatever works or yeah, no, no problems.

968
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.880
<v Speaker 2>She'll come up with an explanation. But it's not like

969
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 2>it's likely, uh or even you know, really reasonable. It

970
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>just so happened. He was there to buy stamps, you know,

971
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Fate brought them together obviously.

972
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 7>Uh, you know, was.

973
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 4>There to pick up the tank that he had delivered

974
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 4>to his post office box.

975
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>That too, you know, why not?

976
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 7>Uh, since she brought that up, pep pete that that story.

977
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 7>The minute I heard that bit, that was the moment

978
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:36.000
<v Speaker 7>that I knew Judy very Baker was the biggest liar

979
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 7>that ever lived. I was like, Okay, that never happened.

980
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 7>I was like, uh, because it took me like listening

981
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 7>to this woman for a few hours, and then the

982
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 7>second I heard that, I said, okay, I've done. She's

983
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:54.599
<v Speaker 7>full of poopy.

984
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, my well, I don't.

985
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you read the blog post that

986
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:03.280
<v Speaker 4>I did about that, but that's where I cold busted

987
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 4>her that it couldn't have happened. She was remember the

988
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 4>old education for him and Fetzer was you know, posting

989
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot on there, and Judith Baker was posting on there,

990
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 4>and Ed Simpkin had made a post talking about Judith

991
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Baker and she contacted him on the site and said,

992
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a few things you need to clear up.

993
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:34.400
<v Speaker 4>So he asked her specifically, well, I've got a couple questions.

994
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 4>She said, well, I'll be happy to answer them. So

995
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.280
<v Speaker 4>he asked her point blank, where did you meet Oswald?

996
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 4>And she said that she met him in the afternoon

997
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.679
<v Speaker 4>at the post office, gave the time and the day. Well,

998
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 4>then a few years goes by and Fetzer back when

999
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 4>she was doing her Scandinavian thing, trying to get asylum

1000
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 4>in swim in all right, she posts Fetcher posted for her,

1001
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 4>and the question came up again, where did you meet Oswald?

1002
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 4>And in that post she says that she met him

1003
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 4>in the morning and the reason was right And I

1004
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 4>forget who it was that called her out? Was it

1005
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.880
<v Speaker 4>who anyway? One of the guys that's got the book

1006
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 4>out all Anyway, he made the comment that there's no

1007
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:31.719
<v Speaker 4>way she could have met him in the afternoon, because

1008
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.199
<v Speaker 4>on that day Oswald was at the employment agency and

1009
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.840
<v Speaker 4>had an interview and was dressed all nice, and Judith

1010
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 4>had said the first time she met him, he looked

1011
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 4>a little like he was wearing work clothes. Well, then

1012
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 4>she comes back and says, oh, no, I met him

1013
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 4>in the morning, at like eight thirty in the morning.

1014
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 4>And that's and nobody for years, I think four years

1015
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 4>between the two posts and as many people they crawled

1016
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:05.239
<v Speaker 4>through the Education Forum, nobody ever caught it. And that's

1017
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 4>when I did the blog post and said, this is it.

1018
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 4>She's busted bullshit. See the first since then.

1019
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the first person I remember bringing this up was

1020
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>zach Jendro. Zachary Zendro, remember him, Yeah, And he brought

1021
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.679
<v Speaker 2>that up maybe ten years ago to me or something.

1022
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I think, right, it must have been. Maybe it was more,

1023
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:33.599
<v Speaker 2>but I was like, yeah, of course, that makes no

1024
00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 2>sense at all. And you know what it was. She

1025
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 2>was trying to roll it into that story where she's

1026
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:41.239
<v Speaker 2>she suddenly discovers she's in a rooming house with hookers.

1027
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Remember they're all hookers there, and like, I'm not a hooker,

1028
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.880
<v Speaker 2>but everybody else in the house is, so I don't

1029
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 2>know what to do. So they threw me out because

1030
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a hooker or whatever. I'm a good Catholic girl,

1031
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and so she has to get thrown out in the morning.

1032
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 2>So what does she do? Wander all around New Orleans

1033
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 2>before she goes to the putt. Now she goes straight

1034
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 2>to the post office box, you know whatever, to do

1035
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 2>her thing because she's gotta go pick up this mail

1036
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:07.440
<v Speaker 2>because she can't get mail where she's at in the

1037
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 2>rooming house. Right, So yeah, all right, but look, man,

1038
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 2>my favorite will always be the whole crying on cue

1039
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the story, when she's doing the

1040
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.199
<v Speaker 2>whole you know, they had the special line to speak

1041
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 2>to each other, and she's speaking to him, and at

1042
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 2>a certain point she even says that he's speaking to

1043
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:32.400
<v Speaker 2>her from the school book depository, I think. But yeah,

1044
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the last phone calls, remember and don't forget

1045
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.360
<v Speaker 2>this and that and have children in this right that

1046
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 2>that whole bit, and she starts her you know, her

1047
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 2>crocodile tears whatever, and she goes and then he told me,

1048
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 2>don't forget the name Bobby Baker. Right, Yeah, that one

1049
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 2>has always cracked me up. Now, why is that funny?

1050
00:58:55.079 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Because her husband's name was Robert Baker. He must have

1051
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:06.280
<v Speaker 2>known she was married because they talked about both being

1052
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.760
<v Speaker 2>married and they shouldn't be doing this and everything else,

1053
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 2>so you'd figure he wouldn't have to tell her to

1054
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 2>remember the name Bobby Baker, which also happened to have

1055
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 2>been the bag man for LBJ, and that's what she

1056
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:22.280
<v Speaker 2>was folding her story into at that time. But this

1057
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:27.480
<v Speaker 2>is why I don't forget Bobby Baker. Okay, you can

1058
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.159
<v Speaker 2>look at Bobby Baker and his sleaziness and whatnot, but

1059
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 2>that has always cracked me up. Don't forget Robert Baker.

1060
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget Bobby Baker.

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00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jimmy, it was six years between. Let's see. In

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00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.199
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and four, John Simpkin at the Education for

1063
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 4>Him posted a bioblurb about Judith Barry Faker. Jus decided

1064
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 4>to correct some of the things that John Sposley had wrong.

1065
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.559
<v Speaker 4>John allowed her the opportunity, and I've got a link

1066
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 4>to the thread and what he points in what he

1067
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 4>does is he asked her specifically, when did you meet Oswald?

1068
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.880
<v Speaker 4>The question was when did you meet leave Harrivy Oswald

1069
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 4>for the first time? What were the circumstances of the meeting?

1070
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 4>Now this is in May of two thousand and four,

1071
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:11.440
<v Speaker 4>and she says, thank you, for the opportunity to answer

1072
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 4>the question. We met April twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three,

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01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.000
<v Speaker 4>at about one pm at the general delivery counter at

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01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.159
<v Speaker 4>the main post office in New Orleans. I have letters

1075
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.960
<v Speaker 4>dated and marketing mark proving that I came to the

1076
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 4>post office on that day. Lee was standing in line

1077
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 4>with me at the general delivery counter. Okay, simple question,

1078
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 4>straightforward answer four to twenty six sixty three. At about

1079
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:40.159
<v Speaker 4>one pm. Six years later in twenty ten, this is

1080
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 4>right before me and Lee comes out, Fetzer was running

1081
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.239
<v Speaker 4>a post talking about how rough that she had it

1082
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:52.639
<v Speaker 4>in all, and so he posts for her. And I've

1083
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:56.400
<v Speaker 4>got a link to the whole thread, the true timeline.

1084
01:00:56.519 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Number one. I'm working at Royal Castle from six to

1085
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 4>eight am, and I am at the post office by

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01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:09.239
<v Speaker 4>eight thirty, approximately eight thirty, I meet le Oswald, who

1087
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 4>was dressed neat and clean. Now, the reason that she

1088
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:17.039
<v Speaker 4>had to say that was because and who is his name,

1089
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 4>David Lifton. He's the one that called her out on it.

1090
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's the.

1091
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 4>One who said, well, there's no way you could have

1092
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 4>met him at one o'clock in the afternoon because he

1093
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 4>was at the employment office.

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01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Lifting had those records. Lifting went and got

1095
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 2>those exactly. Yeah. Right.

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01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.880
<v Speaker 4>So she comes back and says, at approximately eight thirty,

1097
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.360
<v Speaker 4>I meet Lee Oswald, who was dressed neat and clean,

1098
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 4>not ingrubby clothes at all. He walked me to the Why.

1099
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 4>He said he was living at the Why for now,

1100
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:47.320
<v Speaker 4>but later would be moving to his uncle's house. Blah

1101
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.199
<v Speaker 4>blah blah. Now there's a huge damn difference between one

1102
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 4>o'clock in the afternoon and eight thirty in the morning.

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01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir.

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01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:56.920
<v Speaker 4>From that point on, I cannot believe that in six

1105
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 4>years all I mean, think of the thousands of people

1106
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 4>that have been on the Education Forum in those six

1107
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 4>years and didn't catch it. I couldn't believe it.

1108
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and think of all the suckers that started buying,

1109
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, because that remember that book was a failed

1110
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 2>two volume set of books, which I can't seem to

1111
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:19.719
<v Speaker 2>find a copy of. I really wish somebody would find one, uh,

1112
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.039
<v Speaker 2>you know. And and that original story that was written,

1113
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, Judy claims that the you know, they they

1114
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 2>totally butchered it and they got everything wrong and they

1115
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.519
<v Speaker 2>changed everything, uh, you know, on and on. But if

1116
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you take a look at that first story that was written.

1117
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I remember reading that like two maybe two thousand, two

1118
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:42.079
<v Speaker 2>thousand and one, uh, you know, and it was a

1119
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.719
<v Speaker 2>limited book and it had gotten out and it wasn't

1120
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 2>very good. I mean, there was definitely problems with the printing,

1121
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't contain half of the crap that she

1122
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:57.719
<v Speaker 2>squeezed into me andly, you.

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01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Know, yeah, it just didn't. I'm a I'm going to

1124
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 4>put a link to this blog post in the room

1125
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.280
<v Speaker 4>so that Jimmy, when you want to, if you go

1126
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:11.880
<v Speaker 4>in the room, you can find this particular blog and

1127
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:14.159
<v Speaker 4>you can read the threads, the actual threads. I've got

1128
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:18.800
<v Speaker 4>links to the threads on on everything, so you can

1129
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 4>follow up with it there.

1130
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 2>It is funny stuff, though, that's for sure. So so

1131
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Danny asked a question and we wound up all the

1132
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:31.239
<v Speaker 2>way deep into the Oswald discussion and how Judy Baker

1133
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 2>makes up crap.

1134
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sorry, right, we would no worries.

1135
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to take a little bit of a

1136
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 3>twist to this discussion is when I was listening to

1137
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:52.760
<v Speaker 3>the podcast then in all these actors, I don't know why,

1138
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:53.320
<v Speaker 3>it just.

1139
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 9>Dogged on me. Do you remember, well, you were pretty

1140
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:03.199
<v Speaker 9>the assassination of Poke John Paul. The second attempted assassination,

1141
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 9>and and that was Ali Aja. He was I don't

1142
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.400
<v Speaker 9>know when it first came out, and this was at

1143
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:21.679
<v Speaker 9>the height of the Cold War, having a Eastern European pope,

1144
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 9>non non Italian, you know, whether he was going to

1145
01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 9>be anti communists or it was he it was some conspiracy,

1146
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.920
<v Speaker 9>maybe even a Soviet role. But I remember when the

1147
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.679
<v Speaker 9>assassination came out, you know, the talk was that he

1148
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 9>was somehow a plant of the of the Soviets, the

1149
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 9>KGV through the Bulgarian intelligence because they could trace a

1150
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:55.000
<v Speaker 9>lot of he had a lot of He was like

1151
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 9>an escape murder from Turkey in action real how he

1152
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.480
<v Speaker 9>belonged to He was a nut job. He going too

1153
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:04.519
<v Speaker 9>an e strength right wing organization, the Great Olves side

1154
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 9>of Turkey, and that in fact the gun he got

1155
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.920
<v Speaker 9>they somehow circled around that it was an East German

1156
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 9>mark like you know, maybe they thought he'd be lacking

1157
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:19.000
<v Speaker 9>enough to maybe take an attempt at the pope and

1158
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.519
<v Speaker 9>that way they can pining on the Russians. So I

1159
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:23.920
<v Speaker 9>don't know what it was, just thinking about this whole

1160
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:27.400
<v Speaker 9>court and these people showing up, you know, playing both sides.

1161
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 4>And in some of the books.

1162
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 9>I've read, you know, on you know of Alan Dolas's

1163
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:37.920
<v Speaker 9>connections with the Switzerland.

1164
01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:39.320
<v Speaker 4>And banking and law, and then uh.

1165
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 9>James Engleton, he had a lot of connections to Italy.

1166
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.880
<v Speaker 4>So I know there was a far right continuing going.

1167
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:56.159
<v Speaker 9>Back to Operation Gladio Italy that there's there's always an

1168
01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 9>agency or not even a government agency, and they want

1169
01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 9>to create narratives why these things happened, and I just

1170
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.519
<v Speaker 9>I don't know, I just it just it just kind

1171
01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.840
<v Speaker 9>of started bringing up his memories that like there's all

1172
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:14.920
<v Speaker 9>these actors and worse and it's all part of this

1173
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:16.239
<v Speaker 9>Cold War narratives.

1174
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Does that make any sense what I'm saying, Yes, because yeah.

1175
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:22.599
<v Speaker 2>If you didn't bring up Gladio, I was going to

1176
01:06:22.639 --> 01:06:26.079
<v Speaker 2>bring up Gladio because you know, it's very difficult to

1177
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:29.119
<v Speaker 2>figure out what's going on in that part of Europe

1178
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.679
<v Speaker 2>at that time, all the way up to the nineteen

1179
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 2>eighties because of the Gladio operations, and it's it's a

1180
01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:40.280
<v Speaker 2>big mess. So yeah, no, no, no, you're bringing up

1181
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:46.440
<v Speaker 2>perfectly reasonable things. And yeah, I you know, and and

1182
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of different ideas about who's who

1183
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:54.079
<v Speaker 2>and who's playing who at that time, so you know,

1184
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the old public ball thing, I mean, and don't forget

1185
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:03.639
<v Speaker 2>the solidarity movement, and there were relationship there, yeah, with

1186
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 2>the Lequalessa in who was the leader of the solidarity

1187
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:12.199
<v Speaker 2>movement in Poland, you know, and there was there was

1188
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:16.480
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of you know, interagency activity, let's call it,

1189
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.159
<v Speaker 2>all throughout Europe at this time. So but uh again,

1190
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:23.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, a fun fact speaking about trials, A fun

1191
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.559
<v Speaker 2>fact about Oswald is you remember the Francis Gary Powers

1192
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 2>thing right where he was, you know, taken down there

1193
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:35.519
<v Speaker 2>in the Soviet Union and put on trial and all that. Right, Well,

1194
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you know it's interesting, but there is a photograph that

1195
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:45.199
<v Speaker 2>purports to be Lee Harvey Oswald present at Francis Gary

1196
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Powers trial, uh, which is interesting.

1197
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:55.199
<v Speaker 7>Zero diary.

1198
01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, go ahead, I just said he was there.

1199
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:07.559
<v Speaker 7>He says that this his historic diary.

1200
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Waltz historic Diary. Yes, no, I always knew

1201
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 2>he had stated it in his you know, in what

1202
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 2>they call the diary, which is a weird journaling thing too,

1203
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:23.800
<v Speaker 2>which he apparently wrote in several large swaths according to

1204
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 2>handwriting experts. But the funny thing about that again is that.

1205
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Like I say, though, the photograph is what's interesting because

1206
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>that didn't come out for a long time. Nobody had

1207
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:36.800
<v Speaker 2>that photograph, and you would have thought that for the

1208
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:41.720
<v Speaker 2>purposes of propaganda, that the Soviets might have, you know,

1209
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.520
<v Speaker 2>spread that about. I don't know. There's a lot of

1210
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 2>weird things happening here, you know, And according to the

1211
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.119
<v Speaker 2>KGB files at the archive that you know that some

1212
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:56.399
<v Speaker 2>people are able to access, you know, they didn't think

1213
01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:59.359
<v Speaker 2>much of him, but yet for a certain time period,

1214
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, they didn't utilize them for propaganda, which

1215
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:08.279
<v Speaker 2>is really strange considering he was an American defector and

1216
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:12.800
<v Speaker 2>they had used others, you know, and they scattered some

1217
01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of those guys to some really interesting remote areas where

1218
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 2>they could keep a good eye on them obviously and

1219
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.119
<v Speaker 2>all that. So, I mean, you know, his whole trek

1220
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to Russia is Minsk technically, right, is bizarre enough. Belarus

1221
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:33.119
<v Speaker 2>bilaris whatever you want to call it now, but at

1222
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the time part of the Soviet Union, part of the block.

1223
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 2>So you know, there is a weird history to this

1224
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.920
<v Speaker 2>kid who only lived to be twenty four, and it's

1225
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 2>pretty extensive when you dig into it. What it is

1226
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you can dig up and the weirder things are actually

1227
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:53.479
<v Speaker 2>what's missing in my mind. But listen, speaking of missing,

1228
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.840
<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put our callers

1229
01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:01.319
<v Speaker 2>on hold, okay, and go ahead and take a quick

1230
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 2>little break if I can. Here. Let's see, I tried

1231
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to put everybody out. Okay, it did. Go on hold, uh,

1232
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and take a quick little break here so I can

1233
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.279
<v Speaker 2>go visit the restroom real fast, be pete. Maybe you

1234
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 2>need some coffee or something or maybe not. What's what's up?

1235
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:18.600
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

1236
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 4>I like that?

1237
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:24.399
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well we'll tell you what. You get some coffee,

1238
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.439
<v Speaker 2>I'll get some tea and uh, listen, anybody wants to

1239
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 2>join in, we don't have to talk about JFK stuff.

1240
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 2>If you listening right now to us live at say

1241
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 2>seventeen minutes after nine pm Eastern on the twenty fourth

1242
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 2>day of April twenty twenty six. If you're hearing me

1243
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.600
<v Speaker 2>live right now, guess what you can call in three

1244
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.039
<v Speaker 2>one nine five two seven five zero one six and

1245
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:53.199
<v Speaker 2>change the topic in any direction you wish. Three one

1246
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:57.039
<v Speaker 2>nine five two seven five zero one six The'chelli effect.

1247
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Open mic will be back after this Wall Street Street

1248
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 2>and don dot com, Wall Street, Window, dot com dot Com.

1249
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of the War State, gives

1250
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you the benefit of his knowledge. Wall Street Street and No,

1251
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Dont go there, now go there, Now go there? Now?

1252
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:35.079
<v Speaker 11>Do you like history? Real history that you were never

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<v Speaker 11>Revelation through conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Revelation.

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<v Speaker 12>Through conversation. Here, Oh Shell.

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<v Speaker 13>Fact, Oh Shelley Fast, Oh Chili dot Com.

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<v Speaker 8>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

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<v Speaker 8>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

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<v Speaker 8>the context of the times and reveals never before published

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<v Speaker 8>information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not

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<v Speaker 8>have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred

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<v Speaker 8>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

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<v Speaker 8>the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.

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<v Speaker 8>Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic.

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<v Speaker 8>In the decade that followed it became an imperial superpower.

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<v Speaker 8>Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba,

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<v Speaker 8>but knew that there were short range missiles on the

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<v Speaker 8>island aren't with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy

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<v Speaker 8>because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have

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<v Speaker 8>led to a Third World War, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson

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<v Speaker 6>Cons what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Effect for a relations.

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<v Speaker 5>Revelation, conation, a devastation, revelation through conversation, the effect you are,

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<v Speaker 5>the effect conversation all raised restrain. I'll sell the fact, revelation,

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<v Speaker 5>the conversation, tision through conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shall effect revelation.

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<v Speaker 5>No conversation gone, had forgotten. I'll show you a fact

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<v Speaker 5>beyond the place of rath and fears, horror of the

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<v Speaker 5>shade the years finds it shall find me unafraid.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's not a bra decate with the scroll I

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<v Speaker 2>am the master of my fate.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes we are sponsored by Mike Swanson and listeners

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I'm thankful that we're able to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're pretty much set for another year. Uh and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just the day to day and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get by like today. You know, if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for the help from a friend, I wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to get the car to continue to run so

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<v Speaker 2>that I could try to go to the flea market tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you guys about that next week. Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>now I even do a show on it, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>what happens, because Smiley's over here is a weird place.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one JFK guy by the way, who I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you will stand there and talk to me for at

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<v Speaker 2>least an hour and a half trying to convince me

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<v Speaker 2>about his theory. Spoiler, he thinks the Masad killed Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, you know, and he buys any JFK book

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<v Speaker 2>I bring with me. But uh, you know, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>flea market anyway, be Pete. We still got looks like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me double check before I say and make myself

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<v Speaker 2>into a liar. Looks like we still got Jimmy James

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<v Speaker 2>and Danny. Of course we could have you listening to

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<v Speaker 2>us live three one nine, five, two seven, five zero

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<v Speaker 2>one six all the way up to ten pm Eastern.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>When we're we're all done and the age of Transitions

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<v Speaker 2>of Aaron Franz begins. So I will leave it at

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<v Speaker 2>that for now. We were talking about jfk Oswald, Judy

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<v Speaker 2>Baker unfortunately, uh and all that. But anything you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say before I bring these two guys back on,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, anybody else that calls in, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you a priority. You can change the topic. We

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<v Speaker 2>can go in any direction you want, Uh, happy to discuss,

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<v Speaker 2>you know most things, So go ahead, rept anything you

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<v Speaker 2>want to add before we do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I just you know, you and your friend of

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<v Speaker 4>the flea markets theory. And I'm just wanting because I've

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<v Speaker 4>heard that that position from a lot of people. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>Massad did it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>The only question I have is why you know, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know Kennedy wanted them to go through inspections because

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<v Speaker 4>of their nuclear program and all that. Well, the problem

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<v Speaker 4>with that is is ever since Israel became Israel, they

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<v Speaker 4>basically have told the world to fuck off when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to wanting to know about their nuclear business. So

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<v Speaker 4>why why would they take out Kennedy over something like

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<v Speaker 4>that when they have basically given the world the finger

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to discussing their nuclear arms, which everybody

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<v Speaker 4>knows they have, which they will never admit that they've got,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's common knowledge. But they've always told the world

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<v Speaker 4>every leader, oh well Israel needs to come under inspect

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<v Speaker 4>screw you, is what they've said. Well, yeah, why would

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<v Speaker 4>they have to take out Kennedy over that?

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<v Speaker 2>And look via active espionage quite frankly, because they are

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most aggressive spy nations against the US

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<v Speaker 2>at all times, even though they're an ally. All of

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<v Speaker 2>our allies spy on us, by the way, so don't

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<v Speaker 2>be delusional about it, people, But truth is, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, because we spy on all of our allies.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my next point. Thank you, But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth. Listen, that's just the game, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't don't hate the player, hate the game. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I laugh at that one, and I

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<v Speaker 2>explained this to this guy that I just mentioned here,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, like, look, man, ever, since Israel was Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>they had the mom there's no like Oh, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want them to have them. That's nonsense, because even though

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't publicly known admitted blah blah blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>they had it. They had it almost simultaneous with us

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and very shortly after.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, maybe shortly after, but be pete nineteen okay,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty nine. Did they have it already? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 2>think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, they may not have actually had you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>what they became a country nineteen forty eight. They may

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<v Speaker 4>not have actually had a bomb in nineteen forty nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair enough, they had all the technology they needed. It

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<v Speaker 4>was just a matter of getting the uranium. And what

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<v Speaker 4>did they do to get that. They built a mona

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<v Speaker 4>and they steal it. What they got to start their

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear project was stolen from US.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so there you go, know that. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. It's easy to see this, and okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say nineteen fifty. But either way, they had the blueprints,

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<v Speaker 2>they had you know, they had the directions, they had

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<v Speaker 2>some of the materials, and all they had to do

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<v Speaker 2>was just you know, complete the projects so they could

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<v Speaker 2>supply their own stuff or feel it from somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>guess what they did both. So they did their thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm just saying that's

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<v Speaker 2>what appears to be reality. So by the time nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three comes around, you're talking about old news, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not okay. So these guys, when you present that to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they accept that argument, if they do, then

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<v Speaker 2>they start talking about the Jewish mafia. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they start talking about the Italians and they go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the mob needed to nail them, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish mafia wanted to nail them, and therefore, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish mafia was also in support of the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel, blah blah. And I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>this is where it goes off the rails, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because they make a lot of wild assumptions and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish mafia that has always driven me nuts. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that there were Jewish gangsters, yes, but they completely look

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<v Speaker 2>The ultimate formula for these guys is okay. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is not my opinion. Okay, do not do not give

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<v Speaker 2>me crap, not not U B. Pete, but the listener

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to write to me. You know, the Jews

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<v Speaker 2>control all the banks, the Jews control Hollywood, the Jews

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<v Speaker 2>control part of gangsterdom. So therefore all of these things

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<v Speaker 2>kind of come to a confluence and an agreement with

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<v Speaker 2>the State of Israel. Okay, well this is ultimately where

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can only say this.

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<v Speaker 4>They talk about the Jewish Jewish mafia. Every nationality of

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<v Speaker 4>every country in the world, from top to bottom, from

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<v Speaker 4>as far East to as far west. Every ethnic group

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<v Speaker 4>has their own mafia.

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<v Speaker 2>And organized crime syndicate peop yes and organized crime sygniqu

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<v Speaker 2>that Chinese to.

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<v Speaker 4>The Japanese, to anybody in Southeast Asia, to the Russians,

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<v Speaker 4>to the Ukrainians to the Czechoslovakians, English Garians. Everybody's got

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<v Speaker 4>a mafia.

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<v Speaker 2>There's England, there's gangsters in England.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I was, I mean, everybody's got their own mafia.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why when they come up with the massad,

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<v Speaker 4>did it explain to me? Why? What? Why would they

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<v Speaker 4>bother trying to take out Kennedy in nineteen sixty three

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<v Speaker 4>when he posed no threat to them. Oh well, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to put them nder nuclear inspections. Good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody has been able to put them under nuclear there,

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<v Speaker 4>and they give the finger to everybody. That's what gives

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<v Speaker 4>me what makes Kennedy so special? They would have to

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<v Speaker 4>take him out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then they point out these you know, these interactions

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben Gurian and blah blah blah, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god. Look, if if the Massad wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>kill a Kennedy, it would have been Bobby, not John.

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<v Speaker 2>And quite frankly, I don't see the point of killing

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<v Speaker 2>either one of them. Uh, but there are strange things

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<v Speaker 2>where there's Middle Eastern and you know, possibly some of

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<v Speaker 2>those intelligence groups had something to do with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the chicanery there. When it comes to RFK, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it gets really weird.

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<v Speaker 4>You can base that on intelligence too, right, That's one

1460
01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:24.640
<v Speaker 4>argument that comes up, all, well, the Israel's got spies everywhere. Well,

1461
01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:30.399
<v Speaker 4>everybody has got spies everywhere. We have spies everywhere. Yes,

1462
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.359
<v Speaker 4>there's not a single country that we don't have a spy.

1463
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Looking at plain and simple, of course, that goes for

1464
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:40.279
<v Speaker 4>every Why are we so special or why is Israel

1465
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:44.279
<v Speaker 4>so special? When it comes to chicanery, we have pulled

1466
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:47.319
<v Speaker 4>this country has pulled off some dirty tricks over the

1467
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:50.520
<v Speaker 4>years all over the world. They're just well, we're just

1468
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:54.119
<v Speaker 4>like everybody else. Look, the only I think understand why

1469
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:57.279
<v Speaker 4>they put they pull out this one group. Well they're

1470
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:00.279
<v Speaker 4>the root of all evil. Well yeah, I hate break

1471
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.560
<v Speaker 4>it to you, but evil doesn't need a root. It's everywhere.

1472
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Look, I'll give you this. The masson are much higher

1473
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:12.479
<v Speaker 2>skilled than a lot and the majority some other intelligence.

1474
01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Actually we would do there. They have perfected some things. Yes,

1475
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.319
<v Speaker 4>they have to look at the whole pager thing that

1476
01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:19.880
<v Speaker 4>they pulled off two years ago.

1477
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was freaking right wile that took them years.

1478
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:25.840
<v Speaker 4>To set up, right, and they set it up and

1479
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 4>they pulled it off without a flaw. And I thought,

1480
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:30.159
<v Speaker 4>those devious motherfuckers.

1481
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, because that's rough. That's that is rough that you

1482
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>do it, That you make somebody go pick up the

1483
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:40.279
<v Speaker 2>explosive themselves and you come on, that is just you

1484
01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>sell it to landish.

1485
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you sell it to them on a contract and

1486
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:48.439
<v Speaker 4>if you buy an extra one hundred, we'll throw in

1487
01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>a free gift card.

1488
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah sure, listen, this is well, why do you think

1489
01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the FBI started selling uh, you know, cryptocurrency. I mean

1490
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:02.279
<v Speaker 2>it was you know Look here you go. It's the

1491
01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>intelligent thing to do. Look you ever see the okay,

1492
01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you know the TV series The Wire. You ever ever

1493
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>see that? Okay, One of the most brilliant plot lines

1494
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.840
<v Speaker 2>in the Wire is when they decided, you know what,

1495
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>we can't track the gangster's phones because they're using burners.

1496
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>They're throwing them away every two days, so we can't

1497
01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:24.279
<v Speaker 2>keep track of the drug deals. We can't get a

1498
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, we can't get a wire on them fast enough.

1499
01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:29.479
<v Speaker 2>We can't get a tap on them fast enough, right

1500
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>in order to collect the evidence we need. What was

1501
01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:37.399
<v Speaker 2>the solution, Well, let's just sell them the phones, and

1502
01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll sell them all the burner phones. They'll think they're

1503
01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>tossing perfectly good burner phones that we can't keep track of. Meanwhile,

1504
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:47.479
<v Speaker 2>we have them all. That was one of the best

1505
01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Nobody ever talks about that about that TV series, but

1506
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:53.640
<v Speaker 2>that is like, holy crap, in the days when a

1507
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>flip phone was brand new, high end technology. Okay, they

1508
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.279
<v Speaker 2>did I did that in a TV series, and I

1509
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, damn, that's brilliant. He got to give it

1510
01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to him. And the truth is, it's not, you know

1511
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:13.199
<v Speaker 2>something that those the writers on that show created all

1512
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:17.199
<v Speaker 2>by themselves. Truth is that cops figured out a while ago.

1513
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:22.399
<v Speaker 2>You know what, if we have a gunshop that we run,

1514
01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>they'll show.

1515
01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Up, you know if we you know you mentioned the wire.

1516
01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:30.760
<v Speaker 4>And I did not know this until just a few

1517
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:35.319
<v Speaker 4>months ago. One of my favorite programs was Homicide Life

1518
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:40.560
<v Speaker 4>on the Streets. He was an excellent cop drama. The

1519
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:43.760
<v Speaker 4>guy that wrote that book actually went around with the

1520
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Baltimore Police for a year and he wrote this book.

1521
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.840
<v Speaker 4>The program The Wire is based on the same book,

1522
01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:53.239
<v Speaker 4>and I did not know the two were related. Yes,

1523
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:57.079
<v Speaker 4>Dad Simon, Yeah, they're technically both programs.

1524
01:27:56.760 --> 01:28:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, They're technically in the same like universe, like in

1525
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>other words, with you know there there they share a universe,

1526
01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>as does that Law and Order series.

1527
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 4>And uh yeah, I never knew that that that the

1528
01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.439
<v Speaker 4>Wire was connected until I was reading It was about

1529
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.359
<v Speaker 4>a month month and a half ago when I came

1530
01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:17.640
<v Speaker 4>across the wire.

1531
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:18.239
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1532
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, Homicide Life on the Streets and all of

1533
01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the Law and Orders, I think, with the exception of one,

1534
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>are all connected in the TV universe, like in the

1535
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>uh the narrative universe is all interconnected. The only thing

1536
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:38.439
<v Speaker 2>is the wire utilized a whole lot of real life

1537
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:42.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, people that had street experience and stuff like that,

1538
01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of those characters are very heavily based

1539
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on real people in the wild literally.

1540
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:54.039
<v Speaker 4>Homicide. Yeah, Homicide was the first program that Simon created,

1541
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:58.600
<v Speaker 4>and most of those characters were actually based on somebody

1542
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.039
<v Speaker 4>that was in his book. And then when The Wire

1543
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:06.079
<v Speaker 4>came along, the Wire was basically based on the same

1544
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:09.880
<v Speaker 4>things that were going on during that year that he

1545
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.720
<v Speaker 4>followed the Baltimore Police Department, right, And I mean he

1546
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.600
<v Speaker 4>was actually he was a sign. He worked with them,

1547
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:19.840
<v Speaker 4>He worked for them to get this into the foe

1548
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:21.840
<v Speaker 4>to do his book, so he spent a whole year

1549
01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:23.960
<v Speaker 4>on the streets with him, and then when he came

1550
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:27.520
<v Speaker 4>up with The Wire. Coincidentally, some of the characters are

1551
01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:30.199
<v Speaker 4>the same in both programs, and I never knew the

1552
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:31.520
<v Speaker 4>connection until a month ago.

1553
01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also, like, for instance, that that girl Snoop

1554
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:40.479
<v Speaker 2>that was in that series, The Wire is they created

1555
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>that character based on the fact that years earlier she

1556
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>was literally somebody on the street, you know, banging gang bagon,

1557
01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>So you know, they they wrote her into him. But

1558
01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:55.279
<v Speaker 2>you know what, the weird interconnective tissue is there is

1559
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>what's his name, the guy who plays John Munch there

1560
01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Bell's at Richard Bell is the interconnective tissue there because yeah,

1561
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>because he's on Homicide, he's on Law and Order, he's

1562
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>on uh you know, and he actually I think makes

1563
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a guest appearance or gets mentioned in the Wire. I

1564
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.600
<v Speaker 2>forget which, but either.

1565
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Way, he's a bar patron.

1566
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something like that, right, And so he shows up

1567
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>in all those shows and he's actually the the thread

1568
01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>that that proves that it's all interconnected because it's all

1569
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the same character.

1570
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:36.399
<v Speaker 4>Well, on the Wire, the character Gus Haynes and is

1571
01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:39.239
<v Speaker 4>the is the same. It's basically the same character as

1572
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Clark Johnson playing Meldrick Lewis on Homicide. Who was He

1573
01:30:44.079 --> 01:30:45.640
<v Speaker 4>was one of the funnier ones on there, just the

1574
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>way he went about things. But you know, it was

1575
01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:49.680
<v Speaker 4>weird when I started reading, I thought, wait a minute,

1576
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:52.880
<v Speaker 4>they're talking about characters that was on homicide. And that's

1577
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:55.399
<v Speaker 4>when I researched and found out that David Simon created

1578
01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:55.880
<v Speaker 4>all of them.

1579
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep, so there you go.

1580
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:01.000
<v Speaker 4>It's amazing, But no.

1581
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:05.239
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting piece of like you know, television history,

1582
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's really I'm telling you, The Wire is a

1583
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>fascinating series. I watched the whole thing. You know, the

1584
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 2>last season is kind of crappy a little bit, but

1585
01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:17.399
<v Speaker 2>or no, maybe it's the second last season's kind of crappy.

1586
01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:19.199
<v Speaker 2>I forget which one. The one where they're stuck at

1587
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the newspaper too much is is kind of bad. But

1588
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.319
<v Speaker 2>where they're doing the cop drama stuff and you know,

1589
01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:29.479
<v Speaker 2>getting deep with the you know, different gangster affiliations in

1590
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the city and everything. Again, heavily based on reality, and

1591
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot of Even the homeless crackhead that

1592
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that has a prominent role as a snitch in in

1593
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>the Wire is based on a real guy.

1594
01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:44.159
<v Speaker 9>You know.

1595
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Also, so was Oh god, the guy who's got a

1596
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:51.159
<v Speaker 2>scar on his face. I can't remember his name right

1597
01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:52.479
<v Speaker 2>off the top of my head. It's been a little

1598
01:31:52.479 --> 01:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>while since I watched it. But the guy who was like,

1599
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:59.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody's afraid of him because he's a stick

1600
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:01.600
<v Speaker 2>up guy. He he just sticks up drug dealers, that's

1601
01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:07.399
<v Speaker 2>all he does, you know. And uh, yeah, he's based

1602
01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>on a real guy too. Yeah. So anyway, all right,

1603
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.439
<v Speaker 2>enough of that, but no, that's all true though. B

1604
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Pete that's all. It's a wild thing though, right, that

1605
01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>that whole universe is interconnected. Anyway, We'll see what Jimmy

1606
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:24.199
<v Speaker 2>and Danny have to say, because I'm gonna put him,

1607
01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll put them both back on again and

1608
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>see if they want to continue on with the JFK

1609
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:32.159
<v Speaker 2>discussion or something else. Up to you, but of course

1610
01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>up to anybody who wants to call in. Three one nine, five,

1611
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:38.399
<v Speaker 2>two seven five zero one six. So I don't know,

1612
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe Danny, Well, should we start with Danny or should

1613
01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>we start with Jimmy? I don't know which one be Pete,

1614
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:46.199
<v Speaker 2>which one should we ask to start?

1615
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:51.479
<v Speaker 4>Let's say we last I think heard from Jimmy, So

1616
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:52.319
<v Speaker 4>let's go with Danny.

1617
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Danny, if you want to kick something off, or

1618
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>if you want to continue the discussion, up to you,

1619
01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and then you could pass it along to Jimmy or whatever,

1620
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:00.439
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

1621
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:09.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I don't I've never watched the wire, the comments

1622
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:13.239
<v Speaker 9>on the on the whole state of Israel, mutual weapons.

1623
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:16.800
<v Speaker 4>The only reason they have nuclear weapons is because we.

1624
01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.800
<v Speaker 9>Want them to have nuclear weapons.

1625
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, there's another aspect to it right there. You know.

1626
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm listen just because espionage is what earned them the

1627
01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>stuff quickly. Doesn't mean that the US didn't let that happen.

1628
01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, oh, yeah, we wanted them to have it,

1629
01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>and literally since their inception, pretty they had it.

1630
01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:46.199
<v Speaker 7>Actually, Danish quite correct, Israel did not have nuclear I'm

1631
01:33:46.239 --> 01:33:54.880
<v Speaker 7>going just by the doctor. Israel did not get the

1632
01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:00.760
<v Speaker 7>bomb until the late sixties circle nineteen seventies, under something

1633
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:05.600
<v Speaker 7>called the Helm's angle To plan. It was Angleton who

1634
01:34:05.720 --> 01:34:10.920
<v Speaker 7>got the materials to them, and so it.

1635
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:12.000
<v Speaker 15>Was around.

1636
01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:17.119
<v Speaker 7>Nineteen seventy that they got the bomb, not before.

1637
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I see, so you you disagree, and yeah, so you

1638
01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:22.279
<v Speaker 2>disagree with I'm sorry you.

1639
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:35.199
<v Speaker 7>I was just gonna say that. I don't even remember.

1640
01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I just said go ahead, Chuck, I'm sorry. I wasn't

1641
01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:39.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to interrupt. I thought you were done. I was

1642
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>just saying, okay, so you disagree with me and b

1643
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Pete about it. But you know so in your version

1644
01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:49.800
<v Speaker 2>of things, though, it would be a possibility that.

1645
01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:55.560
<v Speaker 7>No, no, okay, I'll tell you what I'm going by.

1646
01:34:55.680 --> 01:35:06.039
<v Speaker 7>It's by the Church Committees Executive Session testimony, so Harvey Ankleton,

1647
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:18.199
<v Speaker 7>Helms and a few others, So it's not really up

1648
01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:18.840
<v Speaker 7>in the air.

1649
01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:21.279
<v Speaker 4>I well, let me ask you what happened.

1650
01:35:21.359 --> 01:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, let me ask you a question, just just

1651
01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a question, because this is a little bit of a pushback.

1652
01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>But you tell me, maybe I'm wrong. Do you think

1653
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>that you know that it's not possible or probable even

1654
01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>that they had it before that and we just simply

1655
01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.439
<v Speaker 2>don't have it on the record. It wasn't admitted to

1656
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>because it was still secret, and also they needed time

1657
01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>to construct it before they would become a threat, et cetera.

1658
01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And it might actually be strategically intelligent to not allow

1659
01:35:52.840 --> 01:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody to know that they had it years earlier, because

1660
01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.039
<v Speaker 2>if it was known that they were in the process

1661
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>of building a weapon right away, maybe a sustained attack

1662
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:05.720
<v Speaker 2>from all of their neighbors might have occurred. So you

1663
01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's a possibility, no, Chuck.

1664
01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:16.680
<v Speaker 7>Because their neighbors had already been attacking them. And quite

1665
01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:23.920
<v Speaker 7>Franklin having a nuclear capacity twenty years after your foundings

1666
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:25.479
<v Speaker 7>pretty quick moving.

1667
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Of course it is, of course it is quick. But

1668
01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:35.279
<v Speaker 2>nonetheless I would just simply say that, you know, because

1669
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:38.479
<v Speaker 2>it was not publicly or even known you know, on

1670
01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the record, doesn't necessarily mean it didn't exist. Previous. That's

1671
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I would say thereuck. Yeah.

1672
01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:50.319
<v Speaker 7>The thing is is America. I supported EZRA from day one, right,

1673
01:36:50.479 --> 01:36:54.760
<v Speaker 7>we supported them getting nuclear weapons. We've supported them in

1674
01:36:54.880 --> 01:37:01.920
<v Speaker 7>every way. And I'm also curious about thanks you mentioned earlier.

1675
01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:06.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm just curious, now, don't cheat, don't look up how

1676
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:11.439
<v Speaker 7>many people on the planet are the population. I'm just curious.

1677
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.760
<v Speaker 7>How many people do you think are Jewish on the

1678
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:16.479
<v Speaker 7>planet Earth.

1679
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know those numbers. I've never bothered to

1680
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:24.479
<v Speaker 2>try and break that one down exactly. I don't know.

1681
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell you how many Christians are are?

1682
01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:31.600
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, no, no, no, no, no Jewish

1683
01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:33.000
<v Speaker 15>people are is a race?

1684
01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:39.039
<v Speaker 7>Just make a guestimation of how many you know, we

1685
01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:42.319
<v Speaker 7>got what three hundred and fifty million people in America

1686
01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:49.760
<v Speaker 7>supposedly as a benchmark, I suppose China supposedly is billions. Well,

1687
01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:53.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, just make those you mentioned all the things

1688
01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:58.439
<v Speaker 7>that yoused wrong. So I'm just curious what kind of

1689
01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:01.159
<v Speaker 7>number do you think it is if you were to

1690
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:01.960
<v Speaker 7>take awager.

1691
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I do not I would not make a wager because

1692
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an educated guess. But the point is

1693
01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>that I'm not the one who's saying that. I don't

1694
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:13.760
<v Speaker 2>say they run everything, Chuck boy, I'm just asking.

1695
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:17.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm asking you a question to make a point, and

1696
01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:19.000
<v Speaker 7>I answer you, please just give me an umber.

1697
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did. I answered it. I have no number.

1698
01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Just under six there's just under sixteen.

1699
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:27.600
<v Speaker 7>I will give you the number one. Okay, I will

1700
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:29.239
<v Speaker 7>give you the number as promise.

1701
01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1702
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 7>The number is sixteen million.

1703
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you listening, Chuck? I believe you.

1704
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Yees.

1705
01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:40.920
<v Speaker 7>The number on the planet Chuck, yes, let me speak please, Okay.

1706
01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:43.640
<v Speaker 7>The number on my mind is.

1707
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>What are you?

1708
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:49.479
<v Speaker 7>What are you doing? The number on the planet Earth

1709
01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:55.359
<v Speaker 7>is six team million. Sixteen million Jews on the planet Earth,

1710
01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.119
<v Speaker 7>eight million of which live in the land of Israel,

1711
01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:05.680
<v Speaker 7>amongst two million so called Palestinians. The vast amount of

1712
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.680
<v Speaker 7>the other eight million live in the United States of America,

1713
01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:15.560
<v Speaker 7>particularly in New York City mostly, and yes many do

1714
01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:19.399
<v Speaker 7>live in Hollywood, and yes, many of them do work

1715
01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:24.920
<v Speaker 7>in the industry. And that was directly due to the founder,

1716
01:39:25.239 --> 01:39:30.279
<v Speaker 7>Thomas Edison, who was quite an anti Semite, who drove

1717
01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 7>them out. So they went out west and started their

1718
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:37.720
<v Speaker 7>own film colony. So I just wanted to mention those

1719
01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:38.319
<v Speaker 7>few things.

1720
01:39:39.479 --> 01:39:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I was wondering why you needed to mention

1721
01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:46.119
<v Speaker 2>that to me directly, like as if I'm I don't

1722
01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>agree with the people that think they run everything. That's

1723
01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>not I understand.

1724
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:56.520
<v Speaker 7>It's just very interesting number that's that everyone should find interesting.

1725
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.479
<v Speaker 2>Anyone, listen, I'm taking your work. I'm just taking your

1726
01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:04.359
<v Speaker 2>word for it. I haven't ever looked into it personally,

1727
01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:07.920
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know. Uh, that's what I'm admitting to you.

1728
01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Edison wasn't anti semi tell you right about that. I

1729
01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:14.119
<v Speaker 2>know that for a fact because I'm from New Jersey

1730
01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:17.119
<v Speaker 2>and uh, yeah, Edison is one of those guys.

1731
01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:23.720
<v Speaker 7>He went to hire Jews and timpan Alley and vod

1732
01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:27.239
<v Speaker 7>Bill so they finally just packed up and went out west.

1733
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, well there you go, right. So but I again,

1734
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the guy who says this. I'm just telling

1735
01:40:38.119 --> 01:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you that these guys make it like they run everything,

1736
01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:47.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, I don't know how that's exactly done.

1737
01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I get it that they are in certain industries, but

1738
01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:53.039
<v Speaker 2>generally they were pushed into those industries.

1739
01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:54.439
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1740
01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And that's the way that this has been since like

1741
01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>those people existed, you know, that's why they're surnames of

1742
01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the way they are. I mean, you know, that much

1743
01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:10.079
<v Speaker 2>history I know for certain, But other than that, I

1744
01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>don't keep track of the amount of whoever on ever

1745
01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and any you know, these groups and whatnot. It's not

1746
01:41:16.079 --> 01:41:18.720
<v Speaker 2>something I do unless I'm specifically working on something, and

1747
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.279
<v Speaker 2>then I generally forget about it, honestly because I figured

1748
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:25.199
<v Speaker 2>it's got to change over time, and uh, you know,

1749
01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:27.159
<v Speaker 2>by the time another year goes by.

1750
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:34.399
<v Speaker 7>I assume that if any race, well, first off, there

1751
01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:38.279
<v Speaker 7>is no such thing. There's only one race, the human race. Yeah,

1752
01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:42.960
<v Speaker 7>but if any's so called cultural clique was going to

1753
01:41:43.079 --> 01:41:48.399
<v Speaker 7>run the world, need a lot I mean people, they're

1754
01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:53.279
<v Speaker 7>going to need billions. Well, I certainly hundreds of millions.

1755
01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would think that if anybody's going to try

1756
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:59.439
<v Speaker 2>and really run the entire planet, that it would require

1757
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:02.319
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good size army. And I'm looking at China

1758
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>for that right now, because from what I understand, even

1759
01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>though we're not really allowed to know the figures, I

1760
01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:14.359
<v Speaker 2>guess they probably have the highest population to one national

1761
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:17.439
<v Speaker 2>domain that I know of. But maybe I'm wrong there.

1762
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:21.560
<v Speaker 2>India could have more, right, is India? Maybe more? No,

1763
01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:24.359
<v Speaker 2>it can't be more populous than child. I don't even know. Honestly.

1764
01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I know they have more people than us, that's for sure.

1765
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and our birth rate is going down, so

1766
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:39.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, is theirs? Does anybody know for sure?

1767
01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1768
01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So with that, yeah, no, I don't agree with

1769
01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:46.399
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. I'm telling you that they go through

1770
01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:48.439
<v Speaker 2>this convoluted thing and they drive me up a wall

1771
01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:52.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, dude, you know, I can tell you

1772
01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>about certain people do run certain industries, that's for sure.

1773
01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know, and if you want to say they,

1774
01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:03.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Jews or whatever, run the media, that

1775
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was true at a certain point, but you know, I

1776
01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:11.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know that that's true now. It seems to me

1777
01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>that multi layered, massive national, you know, conglomerates run the

1778
01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>media at this point, massive, massive, interlocking corporations that end

1779
01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:26.199
<v Speaker 2>up including everything from you know, like like that movie network.

1780
01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, we sell everything from soft drinks to the

1781
01:43:28.680 --> 01:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>tires and everything else, and you know what, we run

1782
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the media. I think we live in that reality where

1783
01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:39.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, the corporatism prevails now. You know, there may

1784
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>have been stages before.

1785
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:47.520
<v Speaker 4>See, yeah, India is very close to China. China's first,

1786
01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:49.920
<v Speaker 4>and this is based on twenty twenty two figures.

1787
01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>But okay, the time most.

1788
01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:59.479
<v Speaker 4>Populous countries are China, India, USA, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bangladesh, Russia, Mexico.

1789
01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Pakistan something only that broke off from India

1790
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and what like nineteen fifty four, something like that.

1791
01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Something.

1792
01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:12.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, again, the history, I know, I've

1793
01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>read it, but I don't recall it takes get back.

1794
01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just found a new list that says in

1795
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:21.520
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty six. That list I gave you before was

1796
01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:25.800
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty two. Twenty twenty six, India has taken an

1797
01:44:25.960 --> 01:44:35.680
<v Speaker 4>over China for the number thirty two million people. So

1798
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 4>there's one billion, four hundred and forty seven million, seven

1799
01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:41.840
<v Speaker 4>hundred and forty seven thousand, nine hundred and thirty two

1800
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:46.680
<v Speaker 4>people in India and in China. Second, we're third. We've

1801
01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:49.439
<v Speaker 4>only got three hundred and forty four million. So you

1802
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:51.560
<v Speaker 4>got India and China. Between the two of them, you've

1803
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:53.399
<v Speaker 4>got almost three billion people.

1804
01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, so you know ten times if India and China

1805
01:44:58.119 --> 01:45:02.680
<v Speaker 2>a lie, you've got ten times the everything as far

1806
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:07.199
<v Speaker 2>as people go. Yeah, well that's why I wasn't crazy

1807
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>per seeing maybe India. Right, Oh, well, what's what's the

1808
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:18.640
<v Speaker 2>age of our population?

1809
01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1810
01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and be PIZEZ.

1811
01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:25.439
<v Speaker 4>Sorry the a the average age?

1812
01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1813
01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:28.399
<v Speaker 4>Is that what you're asking?

1814
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know.

1815
01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Because he was saying this population.

1816
01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Which, by the way, we're about to enter the

1817
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:38.239
<v Speaker 2>last eight minutes here of our broadcast time, so you know,

1818
01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spin off into any more subjects

1819
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.079
<v Speaker 2>because I want to give everybody a chance to, you know,

1820
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:46.039
<v Speaker 2>speak their piece at the end here. But go go

1821
01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>ahead and answer that if you got it in front

1822
01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:47.680
<v Speaker 2>of you.

1823
01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:52.399
<v Speaker 4>The median age in the United States is thirty eight

1824
01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:53.600
<v Speaker 4>point seven years.

1825
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we're not an elderly population. We're kind of

1826
01:45:57.479 --> 01:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>approaching middle age.

1827
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:04.680
<v Speaker 7>No no, no, no, no, no, not China and Indy,

1828
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:07.119
<v Speaker 7>China in particular.

1829
01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm elderly.

1830
01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh excuse me, I thought b Pete said he gave

1831
01:46:11.199 --> 01:46:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that thirty eight point seven for US. Did you give

1832
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:15.239
<v Speaker 2>that for the US or was that for someone?

1833
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:15.479
<v Speaker 4>Is?

1834
01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

1835
01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Son?

1836
01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:22.920
<v Speaker 2>No wrong number? Okay, I did not.

1837
01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:26.920
<v Speaker 4>How could I look up the wrong number? I think

1838
01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Indian agent the United States is thirty years to lives

1839
01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:31.479
<v Speaker 4>of this year.

1840
01:46:31.680 --> 01:46:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he was going to get there. I think, Jimmy,

1841
01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:37.479
<v Speaker 2>what what was What is the age of median age

1842
01:46:37.520 --> 01:46:41.039
<v Speaker 2>in China and India? Then, just out of curiosity, so

1843
01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:43.520
<v Speaker 2>we can compare them, because thirty eight point seven is

1844
01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the US.

1845
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, China is forty point six years is the median age,

1846
01:46:52.439 --> 01:47:05.520
<v Speaker 4>and in India it is is yeah, twenty nine point

1847
01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:06.000
<v Speaker 4>two years.

1848
01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:13.439
<v Speaker 2>WHOA, So India is way younger country than US. Yeah,

1849
01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:15.760
<v Speaker 2>China's a little bit older than us, according to what

1850
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:19.479
<v Speaker 2>you're reading. Okay, listen, I don't know these things for sure. Anyway,

1851
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm trusting what you're reading. Uh, but the point is,

1852
01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

1853
01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:32.600
<v Speaker 7>India, in India, tell us the trips because they don't

1854
01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:39.520
<v Speaker 7>have restrictions and huh stuff have reproduction. China's lying their

1855
01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:43.880
<v Speaker 7>asses off. Their average age is in the sixties.

1856
01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Well see that's the other thing is no, no median okay, yeah,

1857
01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the median okay, but.

1858
01:47:50.039 --> 01:47:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Looking at median age, not average age.

1859
01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well either way, you know what, We could sit

1860
01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>here and break down these statistics, probably for the next hour,

1861
01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:01.439
<v Speaker 2>but we ain't got an hour. So I'll tell you

1862
01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:03.880
<v Speaker 2>what we'll do. We'll give each of our callers a

1863
01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, final word for the week and then I'll

1864
01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:08.079
<v Speaker 2>give it over to you be Pete, and then we'll

1865
01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:08.640
<v Speaker 2>get out of here.

1866
01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>So why don't you start, Jimmy, all our shooter's actually

1867
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:21.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be the rest of the shows far as

1868
01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, Yeah, because I just assume that end.

1869
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:32.800
<v Speaker 7>The show if he's not actually going.

1870
01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>To do a soo no I have I'm waiting to

1871
01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>produce that show.

1872
01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:42.279
<v Speaker 15>Indeed.

1873
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:46.199
<v Speaker 7>Then and then I just I'll shout out to the

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<v Speaker 7>Southern Poverty Center.

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<v Speaker 15>Which, due to low demand because there are no white

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<v Speaker 15>racist in America in the last fifty sixty years, if

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<v Speaker 15>any significance have been making.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, that's very innovative way to go.

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<v Speaker 15>I hope they get everything that they could deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace, peace, Jimmy. I'll tell you what. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't make it on their hit list for broadcasters

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<v Speaker 2>about ten twelve years ago, because a lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>friends were on there as you know, racial provocateurs, and

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't understand why, and I thought I was in

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<v Speaker 2>danger of getting named there as well. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get hit by them at all. Oddly, I

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<v Speaker 2>got hit by other liberal factions, but not them. But

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<v Speaker 2>they went after people like even Jack Blood by name,

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<v Speaker 2>which was pretty weird, and I was working with him

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, but you know, I was working with

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<v Speaker 2>others too that they were claiming were, you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of fascists and white supremacists, and it wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't figure it out, honestly, And they were going

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<v Speaker 2>after us with the whole broadcast online stuff that they

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<v Speaker 2>were so afraid of, which now is obsolete. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stay tuned to your serious radios out there. Danny.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a final word for the week.

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<v Speaker 9>A couple of thoughts. You know, Israel's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>like I said, the reason they have mixes because we

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<v Speaker 9>allowed them.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. The other thing too, is I want to I.

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<v Speaker 9>Was thinking about the whole population thing. I could think

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<v Speaker 9>to the the nineteen seventies great anthropolitical satirist Archie Bunter.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, he got asked the fear a lot, the

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<v Speaker 9>theosophical question of Who's God's favorite people, and he said,

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<v Speaker 9>of course the Chinese. He made more of them, but

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<v Speaker 9>it's obviously the Indians have replaced them.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wish everybody a great week.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Danny, and appreciate hearing from you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Jimmy James as well, hearing from him. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting topic. Bunch of topics actually that came up

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rapid fire at the end. But be pete.

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<v Speaker 2>The final word for this week is going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to you because we actually have a moment or two

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<v Speaker 2>before I got to go jump on and start producing

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron show. So what's your final thought for the week.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I appreciate Danny and Jimmy calling in and as usual,

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<v Speaker 10>go to a Chilly dot com hit the donate button.

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<v Speaker 10>Every little bit helps, although we got over the big hump.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than that, you know, if you know people have

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<v Speaker 4>them call in, we need to you know, let's expand

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<v Speaker 4>this group. See if we can't get some more people

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<v Speaker 4>to participate on Friday nights and uh yeah, absolutely. Other

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<v Speaker 4>than that, you know, we've got a whole week of

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<v Speaker 4>news coming up. The news about the SPLC this last

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<v Speaker 4>week was kind of surprising to some people. To others

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, they knew what was going on. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>amazes me. And the media, you know, has pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>kind of poo pooed the whole idea. Oh that can't

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<v Speaker 4>be so. Well, you know, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>that's had their head in the sands over the past

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen twenty years, yep, and it's time they pull their

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<v Speaker 4>heads out and start paying attention to what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>And if nothing else, this should prove to some people

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<v Speaker 4>that doubt there's a whole lot that goes on behind

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<v Speaker 4>the scenes that you don't know. And I have a

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<v Speaker 4>feeling within the next year we're going to see more

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<v Speaker 4>and more of this stuff come out. And it's about

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<v Speaker 4>damn time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know, things there you have it, Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>and things that are done in the darkness do need

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<v Speaker 2>to come to the light. This is how we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the truth. And uh, look, I'm more than happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see that because the SPLC, I mean, I could

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<v Speaker 2>not fathom. I understood their intent upon founding, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they strayed from it as per usual. Look, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of organizations that you thought had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of righteous intentions and it turns out not so much. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know so, and that's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw with them a lot.

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<v Speaker 15>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, they're weird attacks on the media there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's strange targeting of certain individuals. I mean, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a whole array of things, and I bet it can

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<v Speaker 2>be brought out into the light and I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>see it all come out.

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<v Speaker 4>As for you, I think it's all going to come out.

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<v Speaker 4>I think in the next in the next couple of months,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to see exactly how bad it was. It

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<v Speaker 4>started out with you know, hey, they funded the Unite

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<v Speaker 4>the Right uh thing in Charlottesville, and we saw how

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<v Speaker 4>that blew up, and that's been you know, hounding people

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<v Speaker 4>on the right side of things ever since it happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're going to see a lot more of

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff come out and who is funding who and

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<v Speaker 4>where the money's coming from. Just think about it. Wait

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<v Speaker 4>until they start digging into George Soros and his Time Foundation.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, look at what we found out with doge

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<v Speaker 4>all of these NGOs that are befund that have been

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<v Speaker 4>funded by government money, where people set these things up

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<v Speaker 4>and they're paying themselves three hundred thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 4>And now we see on Twitter that oh so and

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<v Speaker 4>so lost her job a year ago and she can

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<v Speaker 4>only get a nineteen dollars an hour job. Well, she

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<v Speaker 4>was making two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars ripping

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<v Speaker 4>off the damn government. I have no sympathy for someone

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<v Speaker 4>like that. Well, i'll tell you, we'll see more of

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<v Speaker 4>these things come into the light.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I'll tell you this. I don't necessarily agree with

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<v Speaker 2>everything you just said. But here's the thing. The idea

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<v Speaker 2>that the government you know, funds these opposition groups and

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<v Speaker 2>puts controlled opposition out there. Uh you know, yeah, guess

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<v Speaker 2>what all the time? Uh, and yeah, keep your eyes

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<v Speaker 2>out for that, the controlled opposition, the provocateurs that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>get funded. Uh, you know, there's all a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>be learned. And guess what, I find it on all sides.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can find it in any corner you want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just there. So anyway, I leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get to the age of transitions. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you guys enjoyed this one. And as per usual,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really about me when it's on Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm willing to have the conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>let's learn something together. I'd love to hear more ideas

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<v Speaker 2>from more people. So yeah, I'd love to have more

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<v Speaker 2>callers join and get involved. Man, speak your piece, put

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<v Speaker 2>it out there and let's talk about it, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>see what we can do with it. Maybe we'll learn

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<v Speaker 2>something together. And that's what I would love to do

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<v Speaker 2>every single Friday. So join us sometime if you're just listening,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you can help out with the cash app

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<v Speaker 2>or with missus O's PayPal. That's the only two viable

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<v Speaker 2>options right now to chip in, and I do appreciate,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll continue to give shout outs to people who do,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, and even do extra programs if people

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna support UH. In the meantime, I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>and run a little side gig and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm all done for now, and the Age of

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<v Speaker 2>Transitions is up next live Onochelli dot com Radio. Stick

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<v Speaker 2>around because as per usual, I'mocelly and you could be

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<v Speaker 2>the effect. Good Night,
