Speaker 1: Get ready.
Speaker 2: All right, So it's about five minutes after eight pm
Speaker 2: Eastern time, eastern daylight time. I guess it is right
Speaker 2: now here and what they used to call America on
Speaker 2: the East coast, And it is the twenty fourth day
Speaker 2: of April twenty twenty six, right allegedly according to the
Speaker 2: thing we call a calendar.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And this is the live open mic Friday night O'Kelly effect.
Speaker 2: So there you go all the way up to ten pm.
Speaker 2: This is what we'll be doing. Me and my co host.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to each other. If you guys don't call in,
Speaker 2: but I sure do hope you will call in and
Speaker 2: join us. Three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six That is the number to join into this,
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I hope that you do. And you
Speaker 2: got something to this that isn't what's on my mind
Speaker 2: right now or what's been on my mind recently. A
Speaker 2: couple of things happening. We've given we we've given away
Speaker 2: most of the puppies, but we still got a view
Speaker 2: just just for the record, and all the bills paid.
Speaker 2: I think I indicated that, but actually one of them
Speaker 2: got finalized today. Uh, and so that's all good. And
Speaker 2: again I want to thank you know, the following people
Speaker 2: that's ed Bat, Pete, Danny from CALLI and of course
Speaker 2: regular Joe who helped out to do that, but also
Speaker 2: our friend Jimmy James made a contribution recently, and I
Speaker 2: want to thank anybody who does. But guess what, that's
Speaker 2: the end of the list. And those are the usual suspects,
Speaker 2: no offense, but those are the guys that do it.
Speaker 2: So you know if you're not one of those guys,
Speaker 2: and you're hearing my voice right now, yeah, anyway, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. And I've offered, by the way,
Speaker 2: to do more broadcasts and everything. This week, I had
Speaker 2: doctor's appointments, all kinds of crap, and quite honestly, we're
Speaker 2: gonna attempt as a family to go to the flea
Speaker 2: market tomorrow and uh see what happens, because I need
Speaker 2: to make a little money and we're gonna try and
Speaker 2: sell a few things from around the house and see
Speaker 2: how that works out. Uh, and I'm gonna bring uh
Speaker 2: the excess baseball cards that we picked up. But also
Speaker 2: I sent out gifts to everybody and I'm hoping to
Speaker 2: hear from some of those guys tonight about what it
Speaker 2: is they got and if they were happy with it. Uh,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. So you know, it is yet
Speaker 2: again another Friday, like I said, And just now it's
Speaker 2: getting close to nine minutes after eight pm Eastern daylight time.
Speaker 2: And b Pete, how are you doing this week? My friend?
Speaker 4: I'm tired. It's it's been a busy damn week. It's
Speaker 4: been hot as hell. I mean this full summertime here.
Speaker 4: We've been in the and in fact, tonight, when we
Speaker 4: get done, I might go take a dip in the
Speaker 4: pool that I worked on two weeks ago getting it
Speaker 4: ready for the season, just to cool off and get
Speaker 4: the hell out of the house. But oh, it's been
Speaker 4: a productive week. I got all the power to all
Speaker 4: the outlets in the garage done. Now we've been stripping
Speaker 4: bys all day and pulling sixty year old You know,
Speaker 4: I'm surprised my garage hasn't burned down with the old
Speaker 4: Romix that they had running through this thing. Some of
Speaker 4: it's older than I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now that's the stuff you talked about, damn old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the stuff you talked about that you went and
Speaker 2: they increased the price on it right when you went
Speaker 2: to either Home Deep or those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the stuff I'm pulling out now is the old.
Speaker 4: It's covered in a in a type of cloth where
Speaker 4: you know today's it's covered in a type of plastic
Speaker 4: that you know in fact. In fact, the power going
Speaker 4: from my box on the house to the garage. You
Speaker 4: can bury this stuff in the ground. You don't have
Speaker 4: to run it through conduit. But the stuff I'm pulling
Speaker 4: out out is over sixty five years old, and it's
Speaker 4: old cloth covered. I don't know what they called it
Speaker 4: back then. I don't know. Romex is a brand name
Speaker 4: on electrical wire. But this stuff is so old. And
Speaker 4: I'm popping down old fluorescent lights and putting up bellied
Speaker 4: lights which are a lot more economical. And you don't
Speaker 4: have to deal with eight foot glass tubes breaking and
Speaker 4: shattering in your face when you're working in a shop.
Speaker 4: So it's been a productive week. And other than that,
Speaker 4: I got a battle going with the town on leaf
Speaker 4: and debris pick up, and I'm getting ready to start
Speaker 4: playing dirty with them next week. So we'll update you
Speaker 4: on that saga.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, leave so Petty hang on leaf pick up.
Speaker 2: What's the problem. Are they telling you you're giving them
Speaker 2: too many bags of leaves or something? What's up?
Speaker 4: Well, my yard, I've got some of the biggest oldest
Speaker 4: oak trees in towns still lind my yard. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've got one oak tree out there. It probably measures
Speaker 4: fourteen foot round. Okay, I mean it's huge. But you know,
Speaker 4: in the winter time, this past winter was brutally cold,
Speaker 4: So any days that it was sunny and you could
Speaker 4: get outside, the wind was blowing. It was cold. I
Speaker 4: ain't get a lot done. So this spring I've been
Speaker 4: cleaning up all of that leaf to brie and everything
Speaker 4: in the yard. And I'm still clearing out in the
Speaker 4: back corner some stuff that's been grown up. Anyway, we
Speaker 4: put our bags, We have to bag our leaves. They
Speaker 4: don't have a vacuum truck here, and what they do
Speaker 4: is they come by with a huge dumpster truck and
Speaker 4: a front end loader and they pick up all the
Speaker 4: limbs and the leaves and everything. They put them in
Speaker 4: the bucket, dump them in the truck and they go
Speaker 4: and up till now, there's been no issue on what
Speaker 4: they'll pick up. Well, supposedly last year they changed the rule,
Speaker 4: although they didn't enforce it, and I had put Normally
Speaker 4: they come by Monday start at seven thirty. They do
Speaker 4: weekly leaf pick up. So I had my by, had
Speaker 4: worked over the weekend and I put maybe ten bags
Speaker 4: out there, and they came by. They didn't come on Monday.
Speaker 4: They had something else they were doing, so I kept
Speaker 4: working in the yard. Well by Thursday I had thirty
Speaker 4: four bags. Wow, so they come over the way we
Speaker 4: need to get you know, the weekend goes by. They
Speaker 4: come last Monday and they only take ten bags, leave
Speaker 4: the other twenty four sitting out there. So I called
Speaker 4: city hall. What's the deal? Oh well, I said, I've
Speaker 4: got thirty bags out there. They only picked up ten.
Speaker 4: Oh well, we've got a new policy where we only
Speaker 4: pick up ten bags. It's on our website. I said,
Speaker 4: well when did this come into effect, Oh last year?
Speaker 4: I said, Well, it wasn't enforced last year, right, I said,
Speaker 4: I need you come pick up my leaves. Well, if
Speaker 4: they got the ten bag, that's all they have, that's
Speaker 4: all they're required to do. So I go on the
Speaker 4: town's website and sure enough, it says we will pick
Speaker 4: up ten bags per house each week up to one
Speaker 4: hundred gallons each. Well, one hundred gallon trash bag is
Speaker 4: big enough to go in one of these wheelly bins
Speaker 4: that everybody puts their trash in now and still have
Speaker 4: some overlap in the sides, pretty damn good sized back. Well,
Speaker 4: if you fill them up with wet leaves in that,
Speaker 4: you know they just ripping tears hard to get them
Speaker 4: out to the curb. So I told the lady, well,
Speaker 4: if you'll pick up ten bags up to one hundred gallons,
Speaker 4: that's a thousand gallons of leaves, right, yes, I said, Well,
Speaker 4: my bags are only thirty nine gallons each, so you
Speaker 4: should be picking up two and a half of my
Speaker 4: bags for every one hundred gallon.
Speaker 2: Bag and something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, but I said, not only that, it also says
Speaker 4: on the website that you'll pick up two pickup truckloads
Speaker 4: of limbs and sticks, which is the equipment, and they
Speaker 4: put in parentheses two cubic yards. I said, well, I
Speaker 4: didn't have any leaves and sticks, so two qbic yards
Speaker 4: is another four hundred and seven mod gallons of leaves.
Speaker 4: You should have gotten all the money and needing to
Speaker 4: one go right, Well, she wanted to argue about it.
Speaker 4: So I said, all right, So I didn't say anything
Speaker 4: for the rest of last week. This Monday, they come
Speaker 4: by and they only pick up nine bags. So up
Speaker 4: the twenty four I had out there, I still got
Speaker 4: fifteen left.
Speaker 2: Fifteen yeah, okay, so yeah, anymore, you haven't added any more.
Speaker 4: Though, right, No, No, I haven't put any more out there.
Speaker 4: So I called the town hall again. I said, they
Speaker 4: only picked up nine bags. Well, but I said, last
Speaker 4: week you said they pick up ten. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 4: on the website right, Well, yes, I said, Well, so
Speaker 4: they need to come back and get another bag. Well,
Speaker 4: they're not going to turn around and go back, just
Speaker 4: get one bag. I said, okay, oh god, I'll play
Speaker 4: this game. So I was talking with this girl. She says,
Speaker 4: I can hear another lady in the background, and she
Speaker 4: gets on the phone and says, look, can I transferre
Speaker 4: it for you to my phone because this person has
Speaker 4: a meeting starting in about ten minutes. And they said okay, fine,
Speaker 4: So he switched me over right, and I have to
Speaker 4: go to the whole story again with her. Okay, I said,
Speaker 4: And today they only came and got nine bags. They
Speaker 4: need to come back and get another bag. Well, they're
Speaker 4: not going to turn around and drive it back just
Speaker 4: to get another back. I said, well, if they're supposed to,
Speaker 4: if they're supposed to pick up ten and they only
Speaker 4: got nine, they need to come get another bag, because
Speaker 4: then that leaves me. We'll be, you know, fifteen still
Speaker 4: out here. She goes, well, what is your name? And
Speaker 4: I tell her my name? What is your number? And
Speaker 4: I give her my numbers? I said, is this a
Speaker 4: policy that the town council voted on or did the
Speaker 4: new city manager come up with this new rule? You know? Well,
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Yeah, but you know I've
Speaker 4: had I know they've had some equipment breakdowns. I said, Well,
Speaker 4: I said they had two trucks and a front end loader.
Speaker 4: I said, we got one more truck than we had
Speaker 4: all of last summer. So I don't know what equipment
Speaker 4: broke down, but it was all out in front of
Speaker 4: my house today. Well, Thursday, yesterday they got a grant
Speaker 4: to redo a lot of the water lines that are real,
Speaker 4: real old. So they were working on this side street
Speaker 4: and an intersection is in front of it, and they've
Speaker 4: been out there working all day. Why get didn't take
Speaker 4: a shower and I get out of the shower and
Speaker 4: I look outside, and I noticed there's the leaf truck
Speaker 4: and the front endloader watching the guys doing the work
Speaker 4: on the pipeline. Okay, so they get out and they
Speaker 4: take twelve bags and leave three sitting there still in
Speaker 4: the same spot. They leave and get this. They leave
Speaker 4: and go dump the truck and come back and are
Speaker 4: sitting out there in the street. So I am I
Speaker 4: gonna say anything. I just want to see what they do.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Well, the town manager was supposed to call me Monday.
Speaker 4: He's not called me all week.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So now they've taken thirty one bags in three trips
Speaker 4: and still have three sitting out there, and I've yet
Speaker 4: to hear from the town manager. Let me let me
Speaker 4: show Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't done that question Sunday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. But Sunday I'm gonna go out there. You
Speaker 4: know the little shopping bags you get from Dollar General
Speaker 4: and from the grocery.
Speaker 2: Store, regular grocery bags.
Speaker 4: I'm will go out there and I'm gonna fill up
Speaker 4: twelve of them with leaves and tie them off and
Speaker 4: stack them in a row out there to the three
Speaker 4: big thirty nine gallon bags they are still sitting out there,
Speaker 4: and see if they're only gonna pick.
Speaker 2: Up ten, if they only pick up ten little those.
Speaker 4: Ten bags, those ten little bags are not even gonna
Speaker 4: fill up one normal turn ass bag. But I'm gonna
Speaker 4: see if they leave them sitting out there, they're gonna
Speaker 4: be in a nice neat road, just like I had
Speaker 4: the other ones. There's gonna be. I'm gonna put twelve
Speaker 4: little shopping bags of leaves, you know, waste paper basket
Speaker 4: size bags, b peats, and see if they pick them up.
Speaker 2: P Pete's war with bureaucracy over the leaves.
Speaker 4: It's gonna get good because.
Speaker 2: I got it. I gotta still got a dumb question,
Speaker 2: call it oh.
Speaker 4: I will take all of this down to the town
Speaker 4: council meeting in May and bring it up there and
Speaker 4: asking what the why are they being so damn petty
Speaker 4: that they won't pick up If they had taken an
Speaker 4: extra bag every time, all the bags would be gone.
Speaker 4: But one day it's ten, the next day it's nine,
Speaker 4: the third day it's twelve. So what the hell is
Speaker 4: the policy? We're gonna find out with ten little shopping
Speaker 4: bags on Monday?
Speaker 2: Is he first off, I'm confused by the numbers. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you're arguing overweight on the leaves, which is hilarious.
Speaker 2: Gallons of leaves, gallons of leaves. But on top of it, Uh,
Speaker 2: here's what I wonder though, what would happen. Don't you
Speaker 2: have a neighbor who doesn't put out leaves? Maybe and
Speaker 2: you could put some bags in front of their house
Speaker 2: and that would solve the problem.
Speaker 4: Or no, Well, yeah, that's gonna be my next resort.
Speaker 4: If they don't pick up the if they don't pick
Speaker 4: up the twelve little bags I put out there, whatever
Speaker 4: is left, I'm going to take half of them and
Speaker 4: put them in front of my neighbor's house. They can
Speaker 4: know exactly where they've come from. You see, if they
Speaker 4: stop and get them.
Speaker 2: Well, they'd have to because those are bags now in
Speaker 2: front of the neighbor's house. And are they going to
Speaker 2: be able to prove those are the same they're.
Speaker 4: The same bag the bag handles?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? What is this world coming to? Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Life is life in small town. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 4: and I could understand them last week, you know, if
Speaker 4: the truck was full normally because there as a lot of
Speaker 4: times when I put twenty bags out there, uh, me
Speaker 4: and the guy across the street. Hell, we might have
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five bags, right, he's out there at one
Speaker 4: back and they would always pick them up, no questions asked.
Speaker 4: But we've had some new hires and some people have retired,
Speaker 4: and we have a new city manure well town manager.
Speaker 4: So you know, there's no time on what the hell
Speaker 4: the problem is. But we're gonna find out here very soon.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be on like one of my life?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Are you gonna be on one of those
Speaker 2: town council meetings that like I can watch on on
Speaker 2: like YouTube? Uh? Like? Like do they do?
Speaker 4: They broadcast Facebook? Because somebody will probably keep filming them.
Speaker 4: When I mentioned that I've got twelve little shopping bags
Speaker 4: the size of a waste paper basket, they refused to
Speaker 4: pick them up.
Speaker 2: This is nuts, man, I got it.
Speaker 4: I got a little Peyton place here.
Speaker 2: No, I gotta see you yelling at the town council
Speaker 2: people though. That's gotta be funny.
Speaker 4: Uh So now you remember though Harper Valley Pta, Yeah?
Speaker 2: I remember?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's how petty this damn place is. So
Speaker 4: we're gonna say we're gonna try them, Because then I thought, well,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out and actually buy some hundred gallon
Speaker 4: plastic bags and see them wrestle those suckers into the
Speaker 4: bucket of a front end low.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, because I look, it sounds to me like
Speaker 2: you should just, you know, take the one hundred gallon bags
Speaker 2: and throw the thirty nine gallon bags in and then
Speaker 2: use the shopping bags to throw in there too, just
Speaker 2: so you don't have to repack at all, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what I wondered. That was my next that was
Speaker 4: my next thing. If I take like two hundred little
Speaker 4: shopping bags and put leaves in them and stick them
Speaker 4: all in one one hundred gallon bag. See, because they
Speaker 4: don't take the bags, they open them up, dump them
Speaker 4: into the bucket of the endloader, and then leave all
Speaker 4: the bags in your yard to blow around the neighborhood.
Speaker 4: So if you're at work when they come by, your
Speaker 4: bags could be four street, you know, four houses down
Speaker 4: in somebody's yard. That the way they do this used
Speaker 4: to they took them with them, but now they don't
Speaker 4: want to take them with them, so they just leave
Speaker 4: them in your yard for the wind to blow everywhere.
Speaker 2: Basically, they're just littering. And if there's enough bags in
Speaker 2: the town, you got like bags blowing through your town
Speaker 2: like tumbleweeds. Dude, what exactly exactly?
Speaker 4: And they they fight you with fines if you don't
Speaker 4: keep your yard cleaned up, and you can't burn open
Speaker 4: like the church does three blocks from here every Thursday
Speaker 4: before you know services on the weekend, their little landscaper.
Speaker 4: He openly picks everything up, throws it in their little
Speaker 4: outdoor burn area and just sets it on fire. Of
Speaker 4: course when they're a burn band now because of the drought.
Speaker 4: But you know, so they don't enforce any of that.
Speaker 4: You can't burn it, it's got to be in bags.
Speaker 4: If you don't keep it cleaned up, we'll find you.
Speaker 4: But if you put it on the street, we're not
Speaker 4: going to pick it up. So and in essence has
Speaker 4: taken them three weeks to pick up bags. They could
Speaker 4: have gotten three weeks ago, oh man. But they want
Speaker 4: to be petty. So you know, that's our great battle
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: The thing that's cracking me up is that this is
Speaker 2: what you're doing with your retirement. I'm sorry, it's just like,
Speaker 2: why are you.
Speaker 4: So retire thing left after using shopping bags is to
Speaker 4: go get a bunch of damn sandwich bags and fill
Speaker 4: up a thousand of those and sit them out there
Speaker 4: in a little line and see if they'll dump them.
Speaker 2: I would not have the patience to do that. Good luck.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 4: We got a call, take a couple of bong here.
Speaker 4: You'd be surprised, he'd be surprised. How you can entertain
Speaker 4: your tail filling up bags and leaves.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true. I mean, you know, I can entertain
Speaker 2: myself with, you know, just a stick anybody's smoking, you know,
Speaker 2: and I mean just the sticks, not even doing anything
Speaker 2: with this cubic yards the sticks. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 2: need two cubic yards. I could just have a small
Speaker 2: handheld that will keep me busy if I'm high enough.
Speaker 2: But I haven't been that high in a long time anyways.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: We do have callers, all right, and hopefully we'll get
Speaker 2: some more three one nine, five, two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six. So I'm gonna go to them and see
Speaker 2: what else is going on. And look, we got at
Speaker 2: least an hour and a half left to the show,
Speaker 2: because it's only twenty four minutes after eight pm Eastern
Speaker 2: daylight time. Uh, and we're live here on the Friday,
Speaker 2: the twenty fourth of April twenty twenty sixth Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 2: let me get to one of the callers and see
Speaker 2: where it goes. And I think we got Jimmy James
Speaker 2: up first. Jimmy, how you doing? Man?
Speaker 7: Oh good?
Speaker 2: Here Chuck, okay, so what's up?
Speaker 7: How's the sun coming in?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: It's a it's a little distorted, but I'm seeing what
Speaker 2: I can do with it. Hopefully you can hear us. Okay,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it is a little distorted and break breaking
Speaker 2: a little bit. How about now, well that's better for
Speaker 2: a second there, I thought you were outside, but that
Speaker 2: is better. Yes, go ahead. Uh that's Joe that too.
Speaker 7: Who's the other caller? But is it Danny?
Speaker 2: It does look like it's Danny. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well I love hearing Danny and talk to the Danny.
Speaker 7: Danny is a truthful person. Yeah, she doesn't lie, he
Speaker 7: doesn't his belief She's very forthcoming and he's a nice guy.
Speaker 7: I like talking to the Danny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, me too. Matter of fact, I spoke to
Speaker 2: Danny off air earlier today.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: A good guy. You know, he works odd hours, so
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that he makes the time to call in.
Speaker 2: But you want me to go over to Danny first,
Speaker 2: Let you kind of marinate on what you want to discuss,
Speaker 2: and go get him.
Speaker 7: Well, there's no reason we can't. I'm album my, So
Speaker 7: Danny could say whatever he wants. I mean, I like
Speaker 7: the option to be able to say something, Tom because
Speaker 7: I don't like I said, I like talking to Danny.
Speaker 2: Okay, probably that, Hey, no problem, you hang on Jimmy,
Speaker 2: and I'll put Danny on. I think he might have
Speaker 2: a I got a hint that he might have a
Speaker 2: couple of things on his mind that he was hearing
Speaker 2: about recently, and so good. I'll bring Danny on next
Speaker 2: if he's ready to talk. Hey, Danny, you you can
Speaker 2: hear me. Okay, right, good evening.
Speaker 4: How are you doing doing?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can hear you, just fine, excellent. Hey, the
Speaker 4: reason call is you.
Speaker 9: Had this week Larry Hancock and David Boiling with the
Speaker 9: Oswell puzzle.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was last week.
Speaker 9: But yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I I heard it like
Speaker 9: a couple of nights ago as I was working in
Speaker 9: my oddball hours.
Speaker 4: You know, it was it was kind of interesting.
Speaker 9: I have to get the book and read it because
Speaker 9: they were talking about these qubu's. They were kind of like,
Speaker 9: at one hand they knew oswell, they supported them. Other
Speaker 9: moments they were like any in Oswald? Uh, it's uh,
Speaker 9: who exactly were these Cubans as well?
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of them, Danny. And there's two groups
Speaker 2: specifically that that wind up sort of in Oswald's orbit
Speaker 2: when he's in New Orleans especially.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's really strange because these are two groups of
Speaker 2: Cubans that should be at each other's throats because one
Speaker 2: side to them is extremely virulent anti Castro. You know,
Speaker 2: in the nineteen early nineteen sixties there, you know, from
Speaker 2: sixty one to sixty three, these guys are highly active.
Speaker 2: The other group is pro Castro. Okay. And you know
Speaker 2: one one group or the other is involved with different
Speaker 2: government agencies for different reasons, okay, either being investigated by
Speaker 2: them or literally working as operatives for the CIA. Okay.
Speaker 2: So you have a huge mix of guys here, and
Speaker 2: you know this specific list. To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I often mix them up unless I've actually got them
Speaker 2: on paper in front of me, because their names are
Speaker 2: kind of similar and all that. And there is a
Speaker 2: whole thing that goes on where Oswald is spotted with
Speaker 2: different guys from different factions, and simultaneously he's going out
Speaker 2: on the streets in New Orleans. And you probably know
Speaker 2: this pretty well. Then he went out and he handed
Speaker 2: out Castro leaflets, right, And that ends up getting filmed
Speaker 2: by the local TV station and he ends up getting
Speaker 2: a radio interview and a TV interview, et cetera, but
Speaker 2: also winds up getting into a scuffle. Okay, and I'm
Speaker 2: holding up air quotes for everybody playing at home there
Speaker 2: in the streets in New Orleans, and I mean right
Speaker 2: on a main thoroughfare. And the thing is he's getting
Speaker 2: into a scuffle with guys that he approached saying that
Speaker 2: he's anti Castro and he was pledging to help them,
Speaker 2: and even handed over his Marine Corps Like there's a
Speaker 2: handbook that they used to give in the Marine Corps,
Speaker 2: and he handed that over to them as a pledge
Speaker 2: to help train the you know, the anti Castro Cubans. Right,
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm a former Marine, I'm a patriot, and
Speaker 2: I want to help you guys. You know, I'm anti
Speaker 2: communist all that and he hands over his marine book
Speaker 2: and this guy Carlos Berenguer, who is a fascinating figure
Speaker 2: in of himself. If do you know who that guy is?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's the let's say, the leader of that
Speaker 2: little group that winds up confronting him, because again earlier,
Speaker 2: you know, in that week, he's talking to them, pledging
Speaker 2: to help them as a former marine and a patriot, right,
Speaker 2: and there's and they're anti castro. So they show up
Speaker 2: and they're like, you're handing out you know, pro castro crap.
Speaker 2: And then they have this scuffle in the street where
Speaker 2: Oswald gets arrested. He has to go to court, you know,
Speaker 2: Berengere goes to court, and the only guy who ends up,
Speaker 2: you know, pleading guilty and paying a fine is Oswald. Okay,
Speaker 2: but it's interesting they were talking about during that show
Speaker 2: who showed up in court with him, which was not
Speaker 2: something that was ever widely known previously, or at least
Speaker 2: for a lot of years, it was not known that
Speaker 2: you know, certain guys showed up with him. Who were
Speaker 2: they connected to? You know, there's the d which is
Speaker 2: the Cuban Revolutionary student group. Uh that that's you know
Speaker 2: there as well. There's people obviously that are pro Castro
Speaker 2: and anti Castro right there in the courtroom, just to
Speaker 2: witness Oswald getting at the time something like a ten
Speaker 2: dollars fine, you know, which in sixty three was a
Speaker 2: fairly significant amount of money, I guess, you know, for
Speaker 2: disturbing the peace or whatever he was doing. So that's
Speaker 2: what they were describing there. Have I helped fill in
Speaker 2: anything for you yet, Danny?
Speaker 9: Yes, And.
Speaker 2: Well you you totally broke up there. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 2: didn't hear what you said.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, no, no, you're filling that, You're filling the
Speaker 9: blood up.
Speaker 2: So okay, cool. So hey, Jimmy, is there anything you
Speaker 2: wanted to add to this? Because I know you know
Speaker 2: something about this as well, and you know you and
Speaker 2: I have discussed the New Orleans thing before, and obviously
Speaker 2: I talked about it on the show with Joan Mellon,
Speaker 2: and I mean a bunch of different people really about
Speaker 2: New Orleans, you know, Oswald and New Orleans. So anything
Speaker 2: you want to add there or do you think I
Speaker 2: missed something that's good for a broad stroke here?
Speaker 4: Verty much now?
Speaker 2: But okay, So b Pete, did you happen to hear
Speaker 2: that show. By the way, maybe sorry, I thought you
Speaker 2: were done.
Speaker 7: Just say, yeah, you pretty much summed it up. I
Speaker 7: mean I was trying to tell the crow guy that's
Speaker 7: on the bar.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, he ran into those guys in a bar. Sorry,
Speaker 2: what was that? Okay? Well. The other thing to note here, though,
Speaker 2: is that Danny just this is what always fascinates me
Speaker 2: about it is that he is there supposedly representing the
Speaker 2: fair Play for Cuba Committee, right, And the fair Play
Speaker 2: for Cuba Committee was a legitimate organization, but they didn't
Speaker 2: have a chapter in New Orleans. Oswald was claiming, even
Speaker 2: when he was interviewed to be the treasurer of the
Speaker 2: group in New Orleans, which is the fair Play for
Speaker 2: Cuba Committee chapter, and you know of that area, it
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. He made it up, even made up membership
Speaker 2: cards and all this, and fabricated the idea that he's
Speaker 2: the treasurer of this non existent group, which I always
Speaker 2: found rather interesting. Okay, but yeah, but the group exists,
Speaker 2: but not a chapter in New Orleans, you understand. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so Oswald's making stuff up for a reason, obviously, but
Speaker 2: it's difficult to suss out what that reason is unless
Speaker 2: you conclude that he's actually working for somebody in some
Speaker 2: sort of intelligence operation. Now coincidentally, in the summer of
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty three, and I say coincidentally, biting my tongue
Speaker 2: while I say it, you know, the CIA actually had
Speaker 2: a full on campaign to discredit, undermine, and infiltrate the
Speaker 2: Fair Play for Cuba Committee at exactly the same time
Speaker 2: that Oswald is making up this chapter in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Not saying that we can prove that he's connected to
Speaker 2: the CIA that way, but it is rather interesting that
Speaker 2: it parallels so closely with that actual operation. And obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, the CIA, the FBI, they were involved with,
Speaker 2: you know, infiltrating and you know, discrediting all the communist
Speaker 2: organizations because we used to have a bunch of them
Speaker 2: in the country, and you know, even the h what
Speaker 2: he called the American Communist Party, et cetera. I mean, anyways,
Speaker 2: Oswald is writing to some of these organizations, but he
Speaker 2: never formally joins any of them, and he doesn't establish
Speaker 2: a chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, even
Speaker 2: though again, like I said, he claims to be the treasurer.
Speaker 2: And you know who does he claim to be the
Speaker 2: president or you know, the the head of the local chapter.
Speaker 2: There well a guy named Hidel, which is his alias. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you know he's the head, he's the treasurer, and
Speaker 2: he picks different names and also puts him on his
Speaker 2: po box just saying is it's one of those weird
Speaker 2: things that Oswald was doing. And then because he couldn't
Speaker 2: really hold down a job. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 2: the guys you see him handing out the flyers with
Speaker 2: in that film footage, he hired them from a temp agency.
Speaker 2: So you know, his little gaggle of you know commies
Speaker 2: that are out on the street are all paid just
Speaker 2: to show up and hand out flyers. You know, he
Speaker 2: paid him, like, I don't know, ten bucks again, I
Speaker 2: don't know why ten bucks keeps coming up in my head.
Speaker 2: But he paid him a couple of dollars to walk
Speaker 2: around with him and hand out fair Play for Cuba
Speaker 2: Committee literature to anybody would take it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a question, Yeah, go ahead, be pete.
Speaker 4: When Oswald was doing all this, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: when I started work in seventy three, I was thirteen
Speaker 4: years old, right, and it was like about thirty thirty
Speaker 4: five an hour was minimum wage. Now this was back
Speaker 4: in the sixties. Oswald had a face. He was paying rent,
Speaker 4: he was taking buses and things of that nature when
Speaker 4: he was near But how could he afford to hire
Speaker 4: people and print circulars where the money have what to
Speaker 4: see his tax returns? Yeah, he can understand. You know,
Speaker 4: someone living it's against the law to release their tax returns.
Speaker 4: So why is that the one thing that's not come
Speaker 4: out of all this file release as where he was
Speaker 4: getting his day on money? Because I just don't understand
Speaker 4: how he had the money to do everything that he
Speaker 4: supposedly did. Who was funding it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need special permission from the IRS to get
Speaker 2: somebody's tax records. I mean, you can volunteer to release
Speaker 2: your own if you like, but in order to get
Speaker 2: somebody's tax records, yeah, the IRS has to give special permission,
Speaker 2: and they never have. Plus Marina is involved with some
Speaker 2: of those taxes, I think, and she's still alive, right,
Speaker 2: so there's a problem there, and she's never volunteered to
Speaker 2: release them. It would be extremely helpful. But then again,
Speaker 2: I don't believe for a second that he would put
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff on the books. And remember this.
Speaker 2: You know, Marina shortly moves to Texas and he goes
Speaker 2: with her, sort of yeah, but you know that's because
Speaker 2: he really couldn't pay the rent. He couldn't pay the
Speaker 2: rent and do this other stuff, and he was working
Speaker 2: at the see this is where Judy meets him, by
Speaker 2: the way, briefly, if at all, where he's on a
Speaker 2: temp agency job at Riley Coffee. You know, this is
Speaker 2: how he knew about the tempage.
Speaker 4: Though, you know, if nothing else, why you know, when
Speaker 4: the Warren Commission went. Of course, the Warren Commission wasn't
Speaker 4: going to do anything to put the public off on
Speaker 4: Oswald not being able to be the shooter, right, but
Speaker 4: you would think something would have come out where they
Speaker 4: checked his finances and could prove that he couldn't afford
Speaker 4: to do all this stuff because he never had steady employment. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it would work some where and get fired or quit,
Speaker 4: and then how the hell he was funding himself between
Speaker 4: those jobs. You know, it's almost like there's no possible
Speaker 4: way he could have afforded to do this not working.
Speaker 4: So I mean that right alone has to tell you
Speaker 4: somebody is given the guy money who the government chances
Speaker 4: are po Yeah.
Speaker 2: See But here's the thing. You got to rewind that
Speaker 2: all the way back to when he's in the Marine Corps,
Speaker 2: because he leaves right supposedly on a hardship thing and
Speaker 2: immediately almost goes over to Minsk. And how the hell
Speaker 2: does he have that money to travel? Nobody knows. And
Speaker 2: then when he comes back home, don't forget the State
Speaker 2: department lent him money to come back home, and he
Speaker 2: paid it off in the weirdest way I ever saw.
Speaker 2: You ever see the way he paid it off. They
Speaker 2: showed he paid it off with money orders. That record
Speaker 2: is available.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Mean he paid it off. It was like, let's just say,
Speaker 2: theoretically it was four hundred and twenty one dollars and
Speaker 2: thirty two cents. The guy turns around and pays off, like,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty dollars and thirty two cents, and then
Speaker 2: pays off the rest of it in one bulk shot
Speaker 2: shortly thereafter. Nobody knows how he made the money because
Speaker 2: he had hardly any work in between when he made
Speaker 2: the first payment. In the second there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: questions about where does he get money to travel? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, right, but.
Speaker 4: I can't believe it took all the way up to
Speaker 4: Wappergate for some brilliant guy to come up with follow
Speaker 4: the money. Yeah, you can't tell me that these guys
Speaker 4: doing investigations back in the sixties didn't think follow the money.
Speaker 4: And why we've known, I've seen I would love and
Speaker 4: I don't know who the expert is to talk to,
Speaker 4: who's looked at that end of it. But where in
Speaker 4: the hell was his fine who was financing him? Because
Speaker 4: there's no damn way he could have done it in
Speaker 4: one not working, and then when he was working, he
Speaker 4: wasn't making that much money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, here's the thing. Granted, money went a lot further
Speaker 4: back then. Ten dollars was a lot of money back
Speaker 4: in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all true. But the funky thing about this with
Speaker 2: Oswald is that whenever we do track his payments and things,
Speaker 2: he magically has cash. He goes and gets some money order.
Speaker 2: That's how he pays for everything is with a damn
Speaker 2: money order. Uh. And it's just like back then, you
Speaker 2: know it was, I mean still today, I guess it
Speaker 2: would be the same thing. If you just went and
Speaker 2: bought postal money orders to pay for everything. Nobody would
Speaker 2: know where your cash was coming from, you know, And
Speaker 2: that's what happens with him. And the funny thing is, again,
Speaker 2: even if we can track his employee in a bit
Speaker 2: when he was working at Jackson Child Stowwall or whatever,
Speaker 2: and when he's uh uh you know that that's that
Speaker 2: company that did the aerial photography and ended up processing
Speaker 2: the YouTube images and all that. Okay, uh j CS.
Speaker 2: But even you know, that short lived job didn't pay
Speaker 2: for stuff that he was able to do. He clearly
Speaker 2: couldn't pay the rent because he was asked to leave
Speaker 2: at a certain point. The FBI is monitoring his mail. Okay,
Speaker 2: we know that now, Uh, but uh, nobody could figure
Speaker 2: out where any of this cash was coming from somewhere.
Speaker 2: He was just getting cash and it wasn't from his mother,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much, because she was uh broke
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 4: But she didn't have it either, No, and she had
Speaker 4: no money. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And did his brother ever has his in the interviews
Speaker 4: that his brother's done, we ever mentioned that he?
Speaker 2: Yes, Robert has said John Pick, John Pick and Rod Hello,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I was just saying John Pick and Robert
Speaker 2: I go ahead, good, Yes.
Speaker 7: They both picked in and so did that. I believe
Speaker 7: the Marats and I would also point out that Oswald
Speaker 7: was collecting unemployment and missus Payne was paying Marine ten
Speaker 7: dollars a week just to live there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, supposedly for Russian lessons. But when you do the math, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: it doesn't add up. Even the money that that that
Speaker 2: John and Robert claimed they gave him, right, it still
Speaker 2: doesn't add You can't figure out how you can pay
Speaker 2: for everything because it doesn't. It still doesn't work, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. When he's when he's traveling, when
Speaker 2: he's got paid stuff. I know.
Speaker 7: But uh, this man lived very simply. I mean he
Speaker 7: was born during the depression and his mother was even worse.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. In the nineteen seventies, when my
Speaker 7: dad made minimum wage, which was I believe a dollar
Speaker 7: seventy five, he paid off his mortgage and hasn't had
Speaker 7: one sence, and he also bought a car. Everything was
Speaker 7: paid for in the bank for a mergence to him
Speaker 7: because he was responsible with his money. And by most accounts,
Speaker 7: Oswald was playing just playing a penny pincher, so I
Speaker 7: could easily see how he could keep keep saving money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's but then again you're talking about you know,
Speaker 2: pregnant wife and pregnant wife again, you know, and and
Speaker 2: frugal as you can be. Still he's moving around and
Speaker 2: he's able to do things. He makes trips to different
Speaker 2: places that just don't match up to the amount of
Speaker 2: money that's alleged to be in his hands. And the
Speaker 2: thing is, the buying power of the dollar back then
Speaker 2: was a lot better. Of course, in the seventies, even
Speaker 2: with your dad there, it was held a lot better.
Speaker 2: The buying power again, I mean.
Speaker 4: In an example, good I'll give you an example. My
Speaker 4: parents bought in nineteen sixty seven. They bought a brand
Speaker 4: new Ford Falcon for family car. They paid twenty three
Speaker 4: hundred dollars for it, right, and I mean granted it
Speaker 4: wasn't you know, there went a lot of electronics on it.
Speaker 4: It was rolled down windows, basic interior. In fact, when
Speaker 4: my dad got all of them, he realized the sticker
Speaker 4: it called for a bigger engine than was actually in it.
Speaker 4: It just had a straight six zero in it. I
Speaker 4: think it was one seventy civ cubic inch displacement. So
Speaker 4: he went back to the dealer and the guy says, well,
Speaker 4: mister Garrett, you know, oh we can, Well we'll I'll
Speaker 4: tell you what we'll do. If you bring it in,
Speaker 4: We'll get the new engine. He says, no, forget all
Speaker 4: that put air conditioning on it. So we had one
Speaker 4: of those Ford Moco air conditioners that sat under the
Speaker 4: dash over the hump. And it was the first air
Speaker 4: conditioned car that we ever had. And we got it
Speaker 4: because of a misprint on the windows sticker. Okay, great,
Speaker 4: but twenty three hundred dollars for a car back then,
Speaker 4: I ended up that was my first car when I
Speaker 4: got my license years later. And you know, you you
Speaker 4: could buy a new car for under three thousand dollars
Speaker 4: and have a you know, a primo ride from Ford.
Speaker 4: That's the buying power back then. My parents' first house
Speaker 4: I think they paid something like eighty seven hundred dollars
Speaker 4: for it. You imagine buying a house for eighty seven
Speaker 4: hundred dollars, a three bedroom house. You know, he was
Speaker 4: in the military and could afford to do these things.
Speaker 4: He kill me once he got out. You know, it's
Speaker 4: just amazing the difference between then and now. But still, Oswald,
Speaker 4: I'll give you an example. In high school, I went
Speaker 4: to go get some flyers printed up. And this was
Speaker 4: in the early seventies. It was expensive to go down
Speaker 4: to a print shop and get something printed. And how
Speaker 4: Oswald had all this disposable income. He was eating out,
Speaker 4: he was getting things bought, he was purchasing mail order weapons.
Speaker 4: I mean, you think about the money he was spending.
Speaker 4: Besides what he just needed to live on. He had
Speaker 4: to have a source of income. And I can't believe
Speaker 4: that in all this time, no one has been able
Speaker 4: to track this stuff down.
Speaker 2: Well, like Jimmy said, you know, the two brother the
Speaker 2: one you know, full brother and the one half brother
Speaker 2: you know, did give him some money at a certain point,
Speaker 2: and you know you are talking about he left the
Speaker 2: Marine Corps at nineteen, right and dies at twenty four,
Speaker 2: so you know there's only that five year period. But still, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I can't reconcile the two things, you know, because he's
Speaker 2: jobless a lot. Jimmy said, Yeah, he did collect unemployment,
Speaker 2: but then that ran out. I think that's why he
Speaker 2: ended up at the temp agency. I might I might
Speaker 2: have that out of order.
Speaker 4: Good, but even then unemployment was was next to nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but that's you see, but there you go,
Speaker 2: how does he move her? How does he do stuff for?
Speaker 2: You know, he was extremely frugal. This is a guy
Speaker 2: would you know, drink a plain cup of coffee and
Speaker 2: eat a sandwich, you know, and that would be like
Speaker 2: his meal, you know, twice a day. Maybe you know,
Speaker 2: I get it. But at the same time, like you said,
Speaker 2: he ends up at restaurants, he shows up at bars,
Speaker 2: you know, all kinds of things. And he does buy
Speaker 2: stuff clearly with cash and money orders. But it doesn't
Speaker 2: add up. I don't know there was some source of
Speaker 2: income here that we don't see.
Speaker 4: And I can't believe no one has come across it.
Speaker 2: Well, believe me, people have. And you know, there is
Speaker 2: a whole and there's a whole proposal about getting his
Speaker 2: I r S his I r S records, But you know,
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, just like with most things, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't you know, get too excited about it, even if
Speaker 2: they get it, because it's not going to reveal what
Speaker 2: these cash payments were.
Speaker 10: We might find you think he was do you think
Speaker 10: he was on a government or not a government payroll?
Speaker 4: But do you think he was being paid well by
Speaker 4: some three acy well.
Speaker 2: For a long time that's the way it was done, right,
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I like, why does American Express exist, right?
Speaker 2: You know, because they they did all kinds of things
Speaker 2: where you get very little paperwork, you know when it
Speaker 2: comes down to exactly where you know, certain bulk bits
Speaker 2: of cash disappear to. And they also had you know,
Speaker 2: just like they they've always had, uh you know, gray
Speaker 2: and black market sources of revenue. Uh that you know
Speaker 2: nobody wants to Oh you're gonna exactly keep track. You
Speaker 2: want the accountants to figure out how much drug money
Speaker 2: there is that you're working with when you gotta go
Speaker 2: purchase weapons for the contras or whatever. No, right, so
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that's just out there. And well,
Speaker 2: you know, but but I'm not saying that I know
Speaker 2: that with Oswald. I'm just saying that that would make
Speaker 2: the most sense. But how are you gonna even come
Speaker 2: up with that paper trail? You know? I mean, I
Speaker 2: doubt anybody requisition cash for him. And you know, made
Speaker 2: a note, is all I'm saying. And uh, and I
Speaker 2: know nobody wrote him check.
Speaker 4: It was all an indiscriminate on the side in some
Speaker 4: agency that nobody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what is funny. You know what
Speaker 2: else is funny.
Speaker 4: Is to get away with things back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's really funny is you bring up
Speaker 2: the mail order weapons. Those money orders never made it
Speaker 2: all the way through the federal Reserve banks like they're
Speaker 2: supposed to. They didn't have all this because as a
Speaker 2: money orders. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: don't you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they never they never got cashed out at the end.
Speaker 2: No, they weren't finalized like they're supposed to be, Which
Speaker 2: is another weird thing about the evidence, where it's like,
Speaker 2: so you mean to tell me that coincidentally, the guy
Speaker 2: who was the you know, president presidential assassin who purchased
Speaker 2: two separate weapons, you know, from the same company with
Speaker 2: these money orders, right, just so happens they weren't actually
Speaker 2: run all the way through the banking system like every
Speaker 2: other money order is. You know, I guess it's possible,
Speaker 2: but you know, it looked suspicious to me. But see,
Speaker 2: that's the thing. People had forensically tried to do all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff with his payments and everything else, and
Speaker 2: at the end of it you come up with there's
Speaker 2: cash coming well somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did anybody was anybody ever able to check and
Speaker 4: see if the places, I mean, I know they were
Speaker 4: mail order companies and they advertised to these magazines. Has
Speaker 4: anybody checked to see if they were by chance front
Speaker 4: companies where the government was involved. They didn't have to
Speaker 4: cast the money orders, you know. Yeah, but it was
Speaker 4: money that they gave the guy to buy the money order.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But Kleines had an accounting system that sort of
Speaker 2: sucked where they you know, they didn't break down every
Speaker 2: money order. They created a tally sheet where they added up,
Speaker 2: you know, batches of money orders that they made deposits on.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, what I'm saying is is is Clients was
Speaker 4: one of our you know, favorite three letter agencies working
Speaker 4: through Clients. Well, it was just a front to see
Speaker 4: what kind of nut jobs were ordering stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, if they were, as of yet it has not
Speaker 2: been discovered. It appears to be just a doc Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 7: The documents matched so pretty much, I've grabbed them. They'd
Speaker 7: mentioned all the CIA as ad agencies.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My understanding with Clients, you know, Jimmy, correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. My understanding with Clients is that they
Speaker 2: were perfectly willing to cooperate with any government agency that
Speaker 2: approached them, but they weren't often. They were one of
Speaker 2: the oldest, like mail order businesses of their type, and
Speaker 2: the government would approach them for information and they would
Speaker 2: give it to them voluntary. They didn't you know, try
Speaker 2: and withhold anything or protect their customers or anything.
Speaker 4: But it is impossible, just like we saw with walking
Speaker 4: guns to Mexico and the dealers were going back and
Speaker 4: reporting to the AT and have hey, these guys are
Speaker 4: walking guns. What do you want us to do? And
Speaker 4: they get told let them walk. As you know, it
Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me to find out that our three letter
Speaker 4: agency friends were working with clients running operations no mail
Speaker 4: order weapons. It wouldn't that major.
Speaker 2: Well, let me put it you this way, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: shock me either. But at the same time, I've seen
Speaker 2: no evidence for it that indicates that that's the case.
Speaker 4: Well true, true, I'm just wouldn't necessarily see you know,
Speaker 4: information to that effect.
Speaker 2: No, probably not. But but you don't see a lot
Speaker 2: of suspicious stuff with Kleins, is all I'm saying. Like
Speaker 2: it appears to be pretty much on the up and up.
Speaker 2: But again, weird stuff happens with with the Osweald transfers trouble.
Speaker 7: They got sued a lot for selling that garbage those
Speaker 7: garbage guns.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but that's just you know, for them, that
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that was the cost of doing business
Speaker 2: with them, you know what I mean, because they were
Speaker 2: selling them very cheap. They were selling a lot of
Speaker 2: military surplus stuff, not just the Italian weapons. Uh, they
Speaker 2: were selling you know, a lot of post World War
Speaker 2: two old stuff. And uh yeah, they would get sued
Speaker 2: when like somebody's you know, rifle would blow up in
Speaker 2: their face. That's true. That happened quite a bit, Jimmy. True.
Speaker 2: But they sort of just absorbed that and seemed to
Speaker 2: go on. You know, as I said, they just appear
Speaker 2: to be a regular mail order business that you know,
Speaker 2: was a little like well, it was a thing of
Speaker 2: its time. But again with the Oswald transaction, they're strange
Speaker 2: things going on all over the place, like you know,
Speaker 2: the whole Railway Express deal where Railway Express is not
Speaker 2: supposed to deliver to a post office box, and yet
Speaker 2: the still got there, didn't it. You know, Like and
Speaker 2: I know that people have told me, well, ups does
Speaker 2: that now and then? And of course we have a
Speaker 2: more cooperative situation with the private mail you know, businesses
Speaker 2: now with the USPS, but at the time, strictly that
Speaker 2: would have been against postal regulations the way I understand them,
Speaker 2: I mean, unless I'm misreading the nineteen sixty three version
Speaker 2: of them. Uh, you know, it makes no sense. But
Speaker 2: yet things happened this way. Railway Express should have never
Speaker 2: delivered to that post office box, and like I said,
Speaker 2: it got there. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing how things well it's opposed.
Speaker 7: To It's like the travels from Oswald. They just went
Speaker 7: backward to made up things to make it work. The
Speaker 7: warrant mission, yeah, bid the client stuff.
Speaker 2: They literally wiped it.
Speaker 4: Out an old that treaty and wrote that in there.
Speaker 7: And as you said, those mining orders never went through
Speaker 7: the Federal reserve system, so that was just more proxulent
Speaker 7: and commission exhibits and perjury on behalf of the FBI.
Speaker 2: See, I agree with you in spirit, Jimmy. My problem
Speaker 2: is I can't absolutely prove it, like to enter it
Speaker 2: into evidence in a court. But I do agree with
Speaker 2: you that's what it looks like to me. Indeed, if
Speaker 2: you take a look at the Warren Commission volumes where
Speaker 2: they even they published you know, what they claimed was
Speaker 2: the you know, the form that he filled out for
Speaker 2: the peel box right that you know, got the delivery.
Speaker 2: It turns out that that's not actually the form from
Speaker 2: the peo box. See, he got a pill box in
Speaker 2: Texas and he got one in New Orleans. So whichever
Speaker 2: one it's supposed to be, the one in the Warren
Speaker 2: Commission is actually the form from the other office, and
Speaker 2: they claim it to be where the gun was received
Speaker 2: as part of the chain of evidence. There's a little
Speaker 2: kinds of problems with this. You know, the gun is
Speaker 2: just brought up. Both guns.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just you just brought up something that just
Speaker 4: made me think. You know, Judithy Faker says that she
Speaker 4: was at the post office in New Orleans to pick
Speaker 4: up general delivery from a letter from her husband, and
Speaker 4: you know, she has shown letters that she received there.
Speaker 4: My question is, if Oswald's had a post office box,
Speaker 4: why was he standing in line because he never did
Speaker 4: any transaction. Supposedly, Judithy Faker was in line and Oswald
Speaker 4: was behind her, and she dropped a newspaper and he
Speaker 4: picked it up and she got you know, andswer said
Speaker 4: thank you in Russian and they hit it off. Oswald
Speaker 4: didn't do any transaction, so why the fuck was he
Speaker 4: standing in line behind her? He had a post office box,
Speaker 4: he had a key. All he had to do is
Speaker 4: go and open his post office box. Well you know,
Speaker 4: he had a package delivery. But she makes no mention
Speaker 4: of him doing any business at the counter. Alt suddenly
Speaker 4: appears behind her, and then they go walking off talking
Speaker 4: about there. Oh yeah, well here they wear their wedding
Speaker 4: rings on different hand and all this bullshit. That's time.
Speaker 4: I just thought of what the hell was he doing
Speaker 4: in line?
Speaker 2: Well that, plus, you know, how many people do you
Speaker 2: think we're going to break into a conversation in Russian
Speaker 2: with a perfect stranger in New Orleans in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's normal either, very thank would. Yes, well,
Speaker 2: you know you got to make it romantic, you know,
Speaker 2: by instinct and LBP. But for God's sake, no, that
Speaker 2: whole story is stupid.
Speaker 4: Yes, what the hell was Oswald doing in line? I'll
Speaker 4: have to ask her that if I ever get a chance.
Speaker 2: What is he doing in line? How does anybody know
Speaker 2: anybody can speak Russian? You know, come on, go ahead.
Speaker 7: She has She has claimed that he was in line
Speaker 7: to buy stamps and that's what she will claim, or
Speaker 7: envelopes or whatever works.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, whatever works or yeah, no, no problems.
Speaker 2: She'll come up with an explanation. But it's not like
Speaker 2: it's likely, uh or even you know, really reasonable. It
Speaker 2: just so happened. He was there to buy stamps, you know,
Speaker 2: Fate brought them together obviously.
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, was.
Speaker 4: There to pick up the tank that he had delivered
Speaker 4: to his post office box.
Speaker 2: That too, you know, why not?
Speaker 7: Uh, since she brought that up, pep pete that that story.
Speaker 7: The minute I heard that bit, that was the moment
Speaker 7: that I knew Judy very Baker was the biggest liar
Speaker 7: that ever lived. I was like, Okay, that never happened.
Speaker 7: I was like, uh, because it took me like listening
Speaker 7: to this woman for a few hours, and then the
Speaker 7: second I heard that, I said, okay, I've done. She's
Speaker 7: full of poopy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, my well, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you read the blog post that
Speaker 4: I did about that, but that's where I cold busted
Speaker 4: her that it couldn't have happened. She was remember the
Speaker 4: old education for him and Fetzer was you know, posting
Speaker 4: a lot on there, and Judith Baker was posting on there,
Speaker 4: and Ed Simpkin had made a post talking about Judith
Speaker 4: Baker and she contacted him on the site and said,
Speaker 4: you know, there's a few things you need to clear up.
Speaker 4: So he asked her specifically, well, I've got a couple questions.
Speaker 4: She said, well, I'll be happy to answer them. So
Speaker 4: he asked her point blank, where did you meet Oswald?
Speaker 4: And she said that she met him in the afternoon
Speaker 4: at the post office, gave the time and the day. Well,
Speaker 4: then a few years goes by and Fetzer back when
Speaker 4: she was doing her Scandinavian thing, trying to get asylum
Speaker 4: in swim in all right, she posts Fetcher posted for her,
Speaker 4: and the question came up again, where did you meet Oswald?
Speaker 4: And in that post she says that she met him
Speaker 4: in the morning and the reason was right And I
Speaker 4: forget who it was that called her out? Was it
Speaker 4: who anyway? One of the guys that's got the book
Speaker 4: out all Anyway, he made the comment that there's no
Speaker 4: way she could have met him in the afternoon, because
Speaker 4: on that day Oswald was at the employment agency and
Speaker 4: had an interview and was dressed all nice, and Judith
Speaker 4: had said the first time she met him, he looked
Speaker 4: a little like he was wearing work clothes. Well, then
Speaker 4: she comes back and says, oh, no, I met him
Speaker 4: in the morning, at like eight thirty in the morning.
Speaker 4: And that's and nobody for years, I think four years
Speaker 4: between the two posts and as many people they crawled
Speaker 4: through the Education Forum, nobody ever caught it. And that's
Speaker 4: when I did the blog post and said, this is it.
Speaker 4: She's busted bullshit. See the first since then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first person I remember bringing this up was
Speaker 2: zach Jendro. Zachary Zendro, remember him, Yeah, And he brought
Speaker 2: that up maybe ten years ago to me or something.
Speaker 2: I think, right, it must have been. Maybe it was more,
Speaker 2: but I was like, yeah, of course, that makes no
Speaker 2: sense at all. And you know what it was. She
Speaker 2: was trying to roll it into that story where she's
Speaker 2: she suddenly discovers she's in a rooming house with hookers.
Speaker 2: Remember they're all hookers there, and like, I'm not a hooker,
Speaker 2: but everybody else in the house is, so I don't
Speaker 2: know what to do. So they threw me out because
Speaker 2: I'm not a hooker or whatever. I'm a good Catholic girl,
Speaker 2: and so she has to get thrown out in the morning.
Speaker 2: So what does she do? Wander all around New Orleans
Speaker 2: before she goes to the putt. Now she goes straight
Speaker 2: to the post office box, you know whatever, to do
Speaker 2: her thing because she's gotta go pick up this mail
Speaker 2: because she can't get mail where she's at in the
Speaker 2: rooming house. Right, So yeah, all right, but look, man,
Speaker 2: my favorite will always be the whole crying on cue
Speaker 2: at the end of the story, when she's doing the
Speaker 2: whole you know, they had the special line to speak
Speaker 2: to each other, and she's speaking to him, and at
Speaker 2: a certain point she even says that he's speaking to
Speaker 2: her from the school book depository, I think. But yeah,
Speaker 2: one of the last phone calls, remember and don't forget
Speaker 2: this and that and have children in this right that
Speaker 2: that whole bit, and she starts her you know, her
Speaker 2: crocodile tears whatever, and she goes and then he told me,
Speaker 2: don't forget the name Bobby Baker. Right, Yeah, that one
Speaker 2: has always cracked me up. Now, why is that funny?
Speaker 2: Because her husband's name was Robert Baker. He must have
Speaker 2: known she was married because they talked about both being
Speaker 2: married and they shouldn't be doing this and everything else,
Speaker 2: so you'd figure he wouldn't have to tell her to
Speaker 2: remember the name Bobby Baker, which also happened to have
Speaker 2: been the bag man for LBJ, and that's what she
Speaker 2: was folding her story into at that time. But this
Speaker 2: is why I don't forget Bobby Baker. Okay, you can
Speaker 2: look at Bobby Baker and his sleaziness and whatnot, but
Speaker 2: that has always cracked me up. Don't forget Robert Baker.
Speaker 2: Don't forget Bobby Baker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy, it was six years between. Let's see. In
Speaker 4: two thousand and four, John Simpkin at the Education for
Speaker 4: Him posted a bioblurb about Judith Barry Faker. Jus decided
Speaker 4: to correct some of the things that John Sposley had wrong.
Speaker 4: John allowed her the opportunity, and I've got a link
Speaker 4: to the thread and what he points in what he
Speaker 4: does is he asked her specifically, when did you meet Oswald?
Speaker 4: The question was when did you meet leave Harrivy Oswald
Speaker 4: for the first time? What were the circumstances of the meeting?
Speaker 4: Now this is in May of two thousand and four,
Speaker 4: and she says, thank you, for the opportunity to answer
Speaker 4: the question. We met April twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 4: at about one pm at the general delivery counter at
Speaker 4: the main post office in New Orleans. I have letters
Speaker 4: dated and marketing mark proving that I came to the
Speaker 4: post office on that day. Lee was standing in line
Speaker 4: with me at the general delivery counter. Okay, simple question,
Speaker 4: straightforward answer four to twenty six sixty three. At about
Speaker 4: one pm. Six years later in twenty ten, this is
Speaker 4: right before me and Lee comes out, Fetzer was running
Speaker 4: a post talking about how rough that she had it
Speaker 4: in all, and so he posts for her. And I've
Speaker 4: got a link to the whole thread, the true timeline.
Speaker 4: Number one. I'm working at Royal Castle from six to
Speaker 4: eight am, and I am at the post office by
Speaker 4: eight thirty, approximately eight thirty, I meet le Oswald, who
Speaker 4: was dressed neat and clean. Now, the reason that she
Speaker 4: had to say that was because and who is his name,
Speaker 4: David Lifton. He's the one that called her out on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's the.
Speaker 4: One who said, well, there's no way you could have
Speaker 4: met him at one o'clock in the afternoon because he
Speaker 4: was at the employment office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Lifting had those records. Lifting went and got
Speaker 2: those exactly. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 4: So she comes back and says, at approximately eight thirty,
Speaker 4: I meet Lee Oswald, who was dressed neat and clean,
Speaker 4: not ingrubby clothes at all. He walked me to the Why.
Speaker 4: He said he was living at the Why for now,
Speaker 4: but later would be moving to his uncle's house. Blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. Now there's a huge damn difference between one
Speaker 4: o'clock in the afternoon and eight thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
Speaker 4: From that point on, I cannot believe that in six
Speaker 4: years all I mean, think of the thousands of people
Speaker 4: that have been on the Education Forum in those six
Speaker 4: years and didn't catch it. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and think of all the suckers that started buying,
Speaker 2: you know, because that remember that book was a failed
Speaker 2: two volume set of books, which I can't seem to
Speaker 2: find a copy of. I really wish somebody would find one, uh,
Speaker 2: you know. And and that original story that was written,
Speaker 2: you know, Judy claims that the you know, they they
Speaker 2: totally butchered it and they got everything wrong and they
Speaker 2: changed everything, uh, you know, on and on. But if
Speaker 2: you take a look at that first story that was written.
Speaker 2: I remember reading that like two maybe two thousand, two
Speaker 2: thousand and one, uh, you know, and it was a
Speaker 2: limited book and it had gotten out and it wasn't
Speaker 2: very good. I mean, there was definitely problems with the printing,
Speaker 2: but it didn't contain half of the crap that she
Speaker 2: squeezed into me andly, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, it just didn't. I'm a I'm going to
Speaker 4: put a link to this blog post in the room
Speaker 4: so that Jimmy, when you want to, if you go
Speaker 4: in the room, you can find this particular blog and
Speaker 4: you can read the threads, the actual threads. I've got
Speaker 4: links to the threads on on everything, so you can
Speaker 4: follow up with it there.
Speaker 2: It is funny stuff, though, that's for sure. So so
Speaker 2: Danny asked a question and we wound up all the
Speaker 2: way deep into the Oswald discussion and how Judy Baker
Speaker 2: makes up crap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, right, we would no worries.
Speaker 3: Well, I want to take a little bit of a
Speaker 3: twist to this discussion is when I was listening to
Speaker 3: the podcast then in all these actors, I don't know why,
Speaker 3: it just.
Speaker 9: Dogged on me. Do you remember, well, you were pretty
Speaker 9: the assassination of Poke John Paul. The second attempted assassination,
Speaker 9: and and that was Ali Aja. He was I don't
Speaker 9: know when it first came out, and this was at
Speaker 9: the height of the Cold War, having a Eastern European pope,
Speaker 9: non non Italian, you know, whether he was going to
Speaker 9: be anti communists or it was he it was some conspiracy,
Speaker 9: maybe even a Soviet role. But I remember when the
Speaker 9: assassination came out, you know, the talk was that he
Speaker 9: was somehow a plant of the of the Soviets, the
Speaker 9: KGV through the Bulgarian intelligence because they could trace a
Speaker 9: lot of he had a lot of He was like
Speaker 9: an escape murder from Turkey in action real how he
Speaker 9: belonged to He was a nut job. He going too
Speaker 9: an e strength right wing organization, the Great Olves side
Speaker 9: of Turkey, and that in fact the gun he got
Speaker 9: they somehow circled around that it was an East German
Speaker 9: mark like you know, maybe they thought he'd be lacking
Speaker 9: enough to maybe take an attempt at the pope and
Speaker 9: that way they can pining on the Russians. So I
Speaker 9: don't know what it was, just thinking about this whole
Speaker 9: court and these people showing up, you know, playing both sides.
Speaker 4: And in some of the books.
Speaker 9: I've read, you know, on you know of Alan Dolas's
Speaker 9: connections with the Switzerland.
Speaker 4: And banking and law, and then uh.
Speaker 9: James Engleton, he had a lot of connections to Italy.
Speaker 4: So I know there was a far right continuing going.
Speaker 9: Back to Operation Gladio Italy that there's there's always an
Speaker 9: agency or not even a government agency, and they want
Speaker 9: to create narratives why these things happened, and I just
Speaker 9: I don't know, I just it just it just kind
Speaker 9: of started bringing up his memories that like there's all
Speaker 9: these actors and worse and it's all part of this
Speaker 9: Cold War narratives.
Speaker 4: Does that make any sense what I'm saying, Yes, because yeah.
Speaker 2: If you didn't bring up Gladio, I was going to
Speaker 2: bring up Gladio because you know, it's very difficult to
Speaker 2: figure out what's going on in that part of Europe
Speaker 2: at that time, all the way up to the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighties because of the Gladio operations, and it's it's a
Speaker 2: big mess. So yeah, no, no, no, you're bringing up
Speaker 2: perfectly reasonable things. And yeah, I you know, and and
Speaker 2: there was a lot of different ideas about who's who
Speaker 2: and who's playing who at that time, so you know,
Speaker 2: the old public ball thing, I mean, and don't forget
Speaker 2: the solidarity movement, and there were relationship there, yeah, with
Speaker 2: the Lequalessa in who was the leader of the solidarity
Speaker 2: movement in Poland, you know, and there was there was
Speaker 2: just a lot of you know, interagency activity, let's call it,
Speaker 2: all throughout Europe at this time. So but uh again,
Speaker 2: you know, a fun fact speaking about trials, A fun
Speaker 2: fact about Oswald is you remember the Francis Gary Powers
Speaker 2: thing right where he was, you know, taken down there
Speaker 2: in the Soviet Union and put on trial and all that. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: you know it's interesting, but there is a photograph that
Speaker 2: purports to be Lee Harvey Oswald present at Francis Gary
Speaker 2: Powers trial, uh, which is interesting.
Speaker 7: Zero diary.
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, I just said he was there.
Speaker 7: He says that this his historic diary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Waltz historic Diary. Yes, no, I always knew
Speaker 2: he had stated it in his you know, in what
Speaker 2: they call the diary, which is a weird journaling thing too,
Speaker 2: which he apparently wrote in several large swaths according to
Speaker 2: handwriting experts. But the funny thing about that again is that.
Speaker 2: Like I say, though, the photograph is what's interesting because
Speaker 2: that didn't come out for a long time. Nobody had
Speaker 2: that photograph, and you would have thought that for the
Speaker 2: purposes of propaganda, that the Soviets might have, you know,
Speaker 2: spread that about. I don't know. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: weird things happening here, you know, And according to the
Speaker 2: KGB files at the archive that you know that some
Speaker 2: people are able to access, you know, they didn't think
Speaker 2: much of him, but yet for a certain time period,
Speaker 2: I don't know, they didn't utilize them for propaganda, which
Speaker 2: is really strange considering he was an American defector and
Speaker 2: they had used others, you know, and they scattered some
Speaker 2: of those guys to some really interesting remote areas where
Speaker 2: they could keep a good eye on them obviously and
Speaker 2: all that. So, I mean, you know, his whole trek
Speaker 2: to Russia is Minsk technically, right, is bizarre enough. Belarus
Speaker 2: bilaris whatever you want to call it now, but at
Speaker 2: the time part of the Soviet Union, part of the block.
Speaker 2: So you know, there is a weird history to this
Speaker 2: kid who only lived to be twenty four, and it's
Speaker 2: pretty extensive when you dig into it. What it is
Speaker 2: you can dig up and the weirder things are actually
Speaker 2: what's missing in my mind. But listen, speaking of missing,
Speaker 2: here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put our callers
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Speaker 2: for the help from a friend, I wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: able to get the car to continue to run so
Speaker 2: that I could try to go to the flea market tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys about that next week. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: There's one JFK guy by the way, who I guarantee
Speaker 2: you will stand there and talk to me for at
Speaker 2: least an hour and a half trying to convince me
Speaker 2: about his theory. Spoiler, he thinks the Masad killed Kennedy.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you know, and he buys any JFK book
Speaker 2: I bring with me. But uh, you know, it's the
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: of Aaron Franz begins. So I will leave it at
Speaker 2: that for now. We were talking about jfk Oswald, Judy
Speaker 2: Baker unfortunately, uh and all that. But anything you want
Speaker 2: to say before I bring these two guys back on,
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Speaker 2: can go in any direction you want, Uh, happy to discuss,
Speaker 2: you know most things, So go ahead, rept anything you
Speaker 2: want to add before we do that.
Speaker 4: Well, I just you know, you and your friend of
Speaker 4: the flea markets theory. And I'm just wanting because I've
Speaker 4: heard that that position from a lot of people. Oh,
Speaker 4: Massad did it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: The only question I have is why you know, oh, well,
Speaker 4: you know Kennedy wanted them to go through inspections because
Speaker 4: of their nuclear program and all that. Well, the problem
Speaker 4: with that is is ever since Israel became Israel, they
Speaker 4: basically have told the world to fuck off when it
Speaker 4: comes to wanting to know about their nuclear business. So
Speaker 4: why why would they take out Kennedy over something like
Speaker 4: that when they have basically given the world the finger
Speaker 4: when it comes to discussing their nuclear arms, which everybody
Speaker 4: knows they have, which they will never admit that they've got,
Speaker 4: but it's common knowledge. But they've always told the world
Speaker 4: every leader, oh well Israel needs to come under inspect
Speaker 4: screw you, is what they've said. Well, yeah, why would
Speaker 4: they have to take out Kennedy over that?
Speaker 2: And look via active espionage quite frankly, because they are
Speaker 2: one of the most aggressive spy nations against the US
Speaker 2: at all times, even though they're an ally. All of
Speaker 2: our allies spy on us, by the way, so don't
Speaker 2: be delusional about it, people, But truth is, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, because we spy on all of our allies.
Speaker 2: That was my next point. Thank you, But it's a
Speaker 2: back and forth. Listen, that's just the game, you know.
Speaker 2: Don't don't hate the player, hate the game. The thing is,
Speaker 2: you know, like I laugh at that one, and I
Speaker 2: explained this to this guy that I just mentioned here,
Speaker 2: and you know, like, look, man, ever, since Israel was Israel,
Speaker 2: they had the mom there's no like Oh, they didn't
Speaker 2: want them to have them. That's nonsense, because even though
Speaker 2: it wasn't publicly known admitted blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: they had it. They had it almost simultaneous with us
Speaker 2: as far as I know.
Speaker 4: Okay, and very shortly after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, maybe shortly after, but be pete nineteen okay,
Speaker 2: nineteen forty nine. Did they have it already? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: think so.
Speaker 4: Okay, they may not have actually had you know, they
Speaker 4: what they became a country nineteen forty eight. They may
Speaker 4: not have actually had a bomb in nineteen forty nine.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, they had all the technology they needed. It
Speaker 4: was just a matter of getting the uranium. And what
Speaker 4: did they do to get that. They built a mona
Speaker 4: and they steal it. What they got to start their
Speaker 4: nuclear project was stolen from US.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so there you go, know that. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's easy to see this, and okay, fine,
Speaker 2: let's say nineteen fifty. But either way, they had the blueprints,
Speaker 2: they had you know, they had the directions, they had
Speaker 2: some of the materials, and all they had to do
Speaker 2: was just you know, complete the projects so they could
Speaker 2: supply their own stuff or feel it from somebody and
Speaker 2: guess what they did both. So they did their thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm just saying that's
Speaker 2: what appears to be reality. So by the time nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty three comes around, you're talking about old news, you're
Speaker 2: not okay. So these guys, when you present that to them,
Speaker 2: and if they accept that argument, if they do, then
Speaker 2: they start talking about the Jewish mafia. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: And then they start talking about the Italians and they go, well,
Speaker 2: you know, the mob needed to nail them, and the
Speaker 2: Jewish mafia wanted to nail them, and therefore, because you know,
Speaker 2: the Jewish mafia was also in support of the state
Speaker 2: of Israel, blah blah. And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is where it goes off the rails, you know,
Speaker 2: because they make a lot of wild assumptions and the
Speaker 2: Jewish mafia that has always driven me nuts. I understand
Speaker 2: that there were Jewish gangsters, yes, but they completely look
Speaker 2: The ultimate formula for these guys is okay. And this
Speaker 2: is not my opinion. Okay, do not do not give
Speaker 2: me crap, not not U B. Pete, but the listener
Speaker 2: that's going to write to me. You know, the Jews
Speaker 2: control all the banks, the Jews control Hollywood, the Jews
Speaker 2: control part of gangsterdom. So therefore all of these things
Speaker 2: kind of come to a confluence and an agreement with
Speaker 2: the State of Israel. Okay, well this is ultimately where
Speaker 2: it goes. Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, I know, I know,
Speaker 2: but I can only say this.
Speaker 4: They talk about the Jewish Jewish mafia. Every nationality of
Speaker 4: every country in the world, from top to bottom, from
Speaker 4: as far East to as far west. Every ethnic group
Speaker 4: has their own mafia.
Speaker 2: And organized crime syndicate peop yes and organized crime sygniqu
Speaker 2: that Chinese to.
Speaker 4: The Japanese, to anybody in Southeast Asia, to the Russians,
Speaker 4: to the Ukrainians to the Czechoslovakians, English Garians. Everybody's got
Speaker 4: a mafia.
Speaker 2: There's England, there's gangsters in England.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was, I mean, everybody's got their own mafia.
Speaker 4: And that's why when they come up with the massad,
Speaker 4: did it explain to me? Why? What? Why would they
Speaker 4: bother trying to take out Kennedy in nineteen sixty three
Speaker 4: when he posed no threat to them. Oh well, we
Speaker 4: need to put them nder nuclear inspections. Good luck with that.
Speaker 4: Nobody has been able to put them under nuclear there,
Speaker 4: and they give the finger to everybody. That's what gives
Speaker 4: me what makes Kennedy so special? They would have to
Speaker 4: take him out?
Speaker 2: Well, then they point out these you know, these interactions
Speaker 2: and Ben Gurian and blah blah blah, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. Look, if if the Massad wanted to
Speaker 2: kill a Kennedy, it would have been Bobby, not John.
Speaker 2: And quite frankly, I don't see the point of killing
Speaker 2: either one of them. Uh, but there are strange things
Speaker 2: where there's Middle Eastern and you know, possibly some of
Speaker 2: those intelligence groups had something to do with some of
Speaker 2: the chicanery there. When it comes to RFK, you know,
Speaker 2: it gets really weird.
Speaker 4: You can base that on intelligence too, right, That's one
Speaker 4: argument that comes up, all, well, the Israel's got spies everywhere. Well,
Speaker 4: everybody has got spies everywhere. We have spies everywhere. Yes,
Speaker 4: there's not a single country that we don't have a spy.
Speaker 4: Looking at plain and simple, of course, that goes for
Speaker 4: every Why are we so special or why is Israel
Speaker 4: so special? When it comes to chicanery, we have pulled
Speaker 4: this country has pulled off some dirty tricks over the
Speaker 4: years all over the world. They're just well, we're just
Speaker 4: like everybody else. Look, the only I think understand why
Speaker 4: they put they pull out this one group. Well they're
Speaker 4: the root of all evil. Well yeah, I hate break
Speaker 4: it to you, but evil doesn't need a root. It's everywhere.
Speaker 2: Look, I'll give you this. The masson are much higher
Speaker 2: skilled than a lot and the majority some other intelligence.
Speaker 4: Actually we would do there. They have perfected some things. Yes,
Speaker 4: they have to look at the whole pager thing that
Speaker 4: they pulled off two years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was freaking right wile that took them years.
Speaker 4: To set up, right, and they set it up and
Speaker 4: they pulled it off without a flaw. And I thought,
Speaker 4: those devious motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Well, because that's rough. That's that is rough that you
Speaker 2: do it, That you make somebody go pick up the
Speaker 2: explosive themselves and you come on, that is just you
Speaker 2: sell it to landish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you sell it to them on a contract and
Speaker 4: if you buy an extra one hundred, we'll throw in
Speaker 4: a free gift card.
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, listen, this is well, why do you think
Speaker 2: the FBI started selling uh, you know, cryptocurrency. I mean
Speaker 2: it was you know Look here you go. It's the
Speaker 2: intelligent thing to do. Look you ever see the okay,
Speaker 2: you know the TV series The Wire. You ever ever
Speaker 2: see that? Okay, One of the most brilliant plot lines
Speaker 2: in the Wire is when they decided, you know what,
Speaker 2: we can't track the gangster's phones because they're using burners.
Speaker 2: They're throwing them away every two days, so we can't
Speaker 2: keep track of the drug deals. We can't get a
Speaker 2: you know, we can't get a wire on them fast enough.
Speaker 2: We can't get a tap on them fast enough, right
Speaker 2: in order to collect the evidence we need. What was
Speaker 2: the solution, Well, let's just sell them the phones, and
Speaker 2: we'll sell them all the burner phones. They'll think they're
Speaker 2: tossing perfectly good burner phones that we can't keep track of. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: we have them all. That was one of the best
Speaker 2: Nobody ever talks about that about that TV series, but
Speaker 2: that is like, holy crap, in the days when a
Speaker 2: flip phone was brand new, high end technology. Okay, they
Speaker 2: did I did that in a TV series, and I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, that's brilliant. He got to give it
Speaker 2: to him. And the truth is, it's not, you know
Speaker 2: something that those the writers on that show created all
Speaker 2: by themselves. Truth is that cops figured out a while ago.
Speaker 2: You know what, if we have a gunshop that we run,
Speaker 2: they'll show.
Speaker 4: Up, you know if we you know you mentioned the wire.
Speaker 4: And I did not know this until just a few
Speaker 4: months ago. One of my favorite programs was Homicide Life
Speaker 4: on the Streets. He was an excellent cop drama. The
Speaker 4: guy that wrote that book actually went around with the
Speaker 4: Baltimore Police for a year and he wrote this book.
Speaker 4: The program The Wire is based on the same book,
Speaker 4: and I did not know the two were related. Yes,
Speaker 4: Dad Simon, Yeah, they're technically both programs.
Speaker 2: Right, They're technically in the same like universe, like in
Speaker 2: other words, with you know there there they share a universe,
Speaker 2: as does that Law and Order series.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, I never knew that that that the
Speaker 4: Wire was connected until I was reading It was about
Speaker 4: a month month and a half ago when I came
Speaker 4: across the wire.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Homicide Life on the Streets and all of
Speaker 2: the Law and Orders, I think, with the exception of one,
Speaker 2: are all connected in the TV universe, like in the
Speaker 2: uh the narrative universe is all interconnected. The only thing
Speaker 2: is the wire utilized a whole lot of real life
Speaker 2: you know, people that had street experience and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and a lot of those characters are very heavily based
Speaker 2: on real people in the wild literally.
Speaker 4: Homicide. Yeah, Homicide was the first program that Simon created,
Speaker 4: and most of those characters were actually based on somebody
Speaker 4: that was in his book. And then when The Wire
Speaker 4: came along, the Wire was basically based on the same
Speaker 4: things that were going on during that year that he
Speaker 4: followed the Baltimore Police Department, right, And I mean he
Speaker 4: was actually he was a sign. He worked with them,
Speaker 4: He worked for them to get this into the foe
Speaker 4: to do his book, so he spent a whole year
Speaker 4: on the streets with him, and then when he came
Speaker 4: up with The Wire. Coincidentally, some of the characters are
Speaker 4: the same in both programs, and I never knew the
Speaker 4: connection until a month ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, like, for instance, that that girl Snoop
Speaker 2: that was in that series, The Wire is they created
Speaker 2: that character based on the fact that years earlier she
Speaker 2: was literally somebody on the street, you know, banging gang bagon,
Speaker 2: So you know, they they wrote her into him. But
Speaker 2: you know what, the weird interconnective tissue is there is
Speaker 2: what's his name, the guy who plays John Munch there
Speaker 2: Bell's at Richard Bell is the interconnective tissue there because yeah,
Speaker 2: because he's on Homicide, he's on Law and Order, he's
Speaker 2: on uh you know, and he actually I think makes
Speaker 2: a guest appearance or gets mentioned in the Wire. I
Speaker 2: forget which, but either.
Speaker 4: Way, he's a bar patron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, right, And so he shows up
Speaker 2: in all those shows and he's actually the the thread
Speaker 2: that that proves that it's all interconnected because it's all
Speaker 2: the same character.
Speaker 4: Well, on the Wire, the character Gus Haynes and is
Speaker 4: the is the same. It's basically the same character as
Speaker 4: Clark Johnson playing Meldrick Lewis on Homicide. Who was He
Speaker 4: was one of the funnier ones on there, just the
Speaker 4: way he went about things. But you know, it was
Speaker 4: weird when I started reading, I thought, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: they're talking about characters that was on homicide. And that's
Speaker 4: when I researched and found out that David Simon created
Speaker 4: all of them.
Speaker 2: Yep, so there you go.
Speaker 4: It's amazing, But no.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting piece of like you know, television history,
Speaker 2: and it's really I'm telling you, The Wire is a
Speaker 2: fascinating series. I watched the whole thing. You know, the
Speaker 2: last season is kind of crappy a little bit, but
Speaker 2: or no, maybe it's the second last season's kind of crappy.
Speaker 2: I forget which one. The one where they're stuck at
Speaker 2: the newspaper too much is is kind of bad. But
Speaker 2: where they're doing the cop drama stuff and you know,
Speaker 2: getting deep with the you know, different gangster affiliations in
Speaker 2: the city and everything. Again, heavily based on reality, and
Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of Even the homeless crackhead that
Speaker 2: that has a prominent role as a snitch in in
Speaker 2: the Wire is based on a real guy.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: Also, so was Oh god, the guy who's got a
Speaker 2: scar on his face. I can't remember his name right
Speaker 2: off the top of my head. It's been a little
Speaker 2: while since I watched it. But the guy who was like,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's afraid of him because he's a stick
Speaker 2: up guy. He he just sticks up drug dealers, that's
Speaker 2: all he does, you know. And uh, yeah, he's based
Speaker 2: on a real guy too. Yeah. So anyway, all right,
Speaker 2: enough of that, but no, that's all true though. B
Speaker 2: Pete that's all. It's a wild thing though, right, that
Speaker 2: that whole universe is interconnected. Anyway, We'll see what Jimmy
Speaker 2: and Danny have to say, because I'm gonna put him,
Speaker 2: I guess I'll put them both back on again and
Speaker 2: see if they want to continue on with the JFK
Speaker 2: discussion or something else. Up to you, but of course
Speaker 2: up to anybody who wants to call in. Three one nine, five,
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe Danny, Well, should we start with Danny or should
Speaker 2: we start with Jimmy? I don't know which one be Pete,
Speaker 2: which one should we ask to start?
Speaker 4: Let's say we last I think heard from Jimmy, So
Speaker 4: let's go with Danny.
Speaker 2: Okay, Danny, if you want to kick something off, or
Speaker 2: if you want to continue the discussion, up to you,
Speaker 2: and then you could pass it along to Jimmy or whatever,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't I've never watched the wire, the comments
Speaker 9: on the on the whole state of Israel, mutual weapons.
Speaker 4: The only reason they have nuclear weapons is because we.
Speaker 9: Want them to have nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: Oh well, there's another aspect to it right there. You know.
Speaker 2: I'm listen just because espionage is what earned them the
Speaker 2: stuff quickly. Doesn't mean that the US didn't let that happen.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh, yeah, we wanted them to have it,
Speaker 2: and literally since their inception, pretty they had it.
Speaker 7: Actually, Danish quite correct, Israel did not have nuclear I'm
Speaker 7: going just by the doctor. Israel did not get the
Speaker 7: bomb until the late sixties circle nineteen seventies, under something
Speaker 7: called the Helm's angle To plan. It was Angleton who
Speaker 7: got the materials to them, and so it.
Speaker 15: Was around.
Speaker 7: Nineteen seventy that they got the bomb, not before.
Speaker 2: I see, so you you disagree, and yeah, so you
Speaker 2: disagree with I'm sorry you.
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say that. I don't even remember.
Speaker 2: I just said go ahead, Chuck, I'm sorry. I wasn't
Speaker 2: trying to interrupt. I thought you were done. I was
Speaker 2: just saying, okay, so you disagree with me and b
Speaker 2: Pete about it. But you know so in your version
Speaker 2: of things, though, it would be a possibility that.
Speaker 7: No, no, okay, I'll tell you what I'm going by.
Speaker 7: It's by the Church Committees Executive Session testimony, so Harvey Ankleton,
Speaker 7: Helms and a few others, So it's not really up
Speaker 7: in the air.
Speaker 4: I well, let me ask you what happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me ask you a question, just just
Speaker 2: a question, because this is a little bit of a pushback.
Speaker 2: But you tell me, maybe I'm wrong. Do you think
Speaker 2: that you know that it's not possible or probable even
Speaker 2: that they had it before that and we just simply
Speaker 2: don't have it on the record. It wasn't admitted to
Speaker 2: because it was still secret, and also they needed time
Speaker 2: to construct it before they would become a threat, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And it might actually be strategically intelligent to not allow
Speaker 2: anybody to know that they had it years earlier, because
Speaker 2: if it was known that they were in the process
Speaker 2: of building a weapon right away, maybe a sustained attack
Speaker 2: from all of their neighbors might have occurred. So you
Speaker 2: don't think that's a possibility, no, Chuck.
Speaker 7: Because their neighbors had already been attacking them. And quite
Speaker 7: Franklin having a nuclear capacity twenty years after your foundings
Speaker 7: pretty quick moving.
Speaker 2: Of course it is, of course it is quick. But
Speaker 2: nonetheless I would just simply say that, you know, because
Speaker 2: it was not publicly or even known you know, on
Speaker 2: the record, doesn't necessarily mean it didn't exist. Previous. That's
Speaker 2: the only thing I would say thereuck. Yeah.
Speaker 7: The thing is is America. I supported EZRA from day one, right,
Speaker 7: we supported them getting nuclear weapons. We've supported them in
Speaker 7: every way. And I'm also curious about thanks you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 7: I'm just curious, now, don't cheat, don't look up how
Speaker 7: many people on the planet are the population. I'm just curious.
Speaker 7: How many people do you think are Jewish on the
Speaker 7: planet Earth.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know those numbers. I've never bothered to
Speaker 2: try and break that one down exactly. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you how many Christians are are?
Speaker 15: Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, no, no, no, no, no Jewish
Speaker 15: people are is a race?
Speaker 7: Just make a guestimation of how many you know, we
Speaker 7: got what three hundred and fifty million people in America
Speaker 7: supposedly as a benchmark, I suppose China supposedly is billions. Well,
Speaker 7: you know, just make those you mentioned all the things
Speaker 7: that yoused wrong. So I'm just curious what kind of
Speaker 7: number do you think it is if you were to
Speaker 7: take awager.
Speaker 2: I do not I would not make a wager because
Speaker 2: I don't have an educated guess. But the point is
Speaker 2: that I'm not the one who's saying that. I don't
Speaker 2: say they run everything, Chuck boy, I'm just asking.
Speaker 7: I'm asking you a question to make a point, and
Speaker 7: I answer you, please just give me an umber.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I answered it. I have no number.
Speaker 4: Just under six there's just under sixteen.
Speaker 7: I will give you the number one. Okay, I will
Speaker 7: give you the number as promise.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: The number is sixteen million.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you listening, Chuck? I believe you.
Speaker 4: Yees.
Speaker 7: The number on the planet Chuck, yes, let me speak please, Okay.
Speaker 7: The number on my mind is.
Speaker 2: What are you?
Speaker 7: What are you doing? The number on the planet Earth
Speaker 7: is six team million. Sixteen million Jews on the planet Earth,
Speaker 7: eight million of which live in the land of Israel,
Speaker 7: amongst two million so called Palestinians. The vast amount of
Speaker 7: the other eight million live in the United States of America,
Speaker 7: particularly in New York City mostly, and yes many do
Speaker 7: live in Hollywood, and yes, many of them do work
Speaker 7: in the industry. And that was directly due to the founder,
Speaker 7: Thomas Edison, who was quite an anti Semite, who drove
Speaker 7: them out. So they went out west and started their
Speaker 7: own film colony. So I just wanted to mention those
Speaker 7: few things.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was wondering why you needed to mention
Speaker 2: that to me directly, like as if I'm I don't
Speaker 2: agree with the people that think they run everything. That's
Speaker 2: not I understand.
Speaker 7: It's just very interesting number that's that everyone should find interesting.
Speaker 2: Anyone, listen, I'm taking your work. I'm just taking your
Speaker 2: word for it. I haven't ever looked into it personally,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Uh, that's what I'm admitting to you.
Speaker 2: Edison wasn't anti semi tell you right about that. I
Speaker 2: know that for a fact because I'm from New Jersey
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, Edison is one of those guys.
Speaker 7: He went to hire Jews and timpan Alley and vod
Speaker 7: Bill so they finally just packed up and went out west.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, well there you go, right. So but I again,
Speaker 2: I'm not the guy who says this. I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you that these guys make it like they run everything,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I don't know how that's exactly done.
Speaker 2: I get it that they are in certain industries, but
Speaker 2: generally they were pushed into those industries.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And that's the way that this has been since like
Speaker 2: those people existed, you know, that's why they're surnames of
Speaker 2: the way they are. I mean, you know, that much
Speaker 2: history I know for certain, But other than that, I
Speaker 2: don't keep track of the amount of whoever on ever
Speaker 2: and any you know, these groups and whatnot. It's not
Speaker 2: something I do unless I'm specifically working on something, and
Speaker 2: then I generally forget about it, honestly because I figured
Speaker 2: it's got to change over time, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: by the time another year goes by.
Speaker 7: I assume that if any race, well, first off, there
Speaker 7: is no such thing. There's only one race, the human race. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but if any's so called cultural clique was going to
Speaker 7: run the world, need a lot I mean people, they're
Speaker 7: going to need billions. Well, I certainly hundreds of millions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that if anybody's going to try
Speaker 2: and really run the entire planet, that it would require
Speaker 2: a pretty good size army. And I'm looking at China
Speaker 2: for that right now, because from what I understand, even
Speaker 2: though we're not really allowed to know the figures, I
Speaker 2: guess they probably have the highest population to one national
Speaker 2: domain that I know of. But maybe I'm wrong there.
Speaker 2: India could have more, right, is India? Maybe more? No,
Speaker 2: it can't be more populous than child. I don't even know. Honestly.
Speaker 2: I know they have more people than us, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and our birth rate is going down, so
Speaker 2: you know, is theirs? Does anybody know for sure?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay? So with that, yeah, no, I don't agree with
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I'm telling you that they go through
Speaker 2: this convoluted thing and they drive me up a wall
Speaker 2: because it's like, dude, you know, I can tell you
Speaker 2: about certain people do run certain industries, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But you know, and if you want to say they,
Speaker 2: you know, the Jews or whatever, run the media, that
Speaker 2: was true at a certain point, but you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know that that's true now. It seems to me
Speaker 2: that multi layered, massive national, you know, conglomerates run the
Speaker 2: media at this point, massive, massive, interlocking corporations that end
Speaker 2: up including everything from you know, like like that movie network.
Speaker 2: You know, we sell everything from soft drinks to the
Speaker 2: tires and everything else, and you know what, we run
Speaker 2: the media. I think we live in that reality where
Speaker 2: you know, the corporatism prevails now. You know, there may
Speaker 2: have been stages before.
Speaker 4: See, yeah, India is very close to China. China's first,
Speaker 4: and this is based on twenty twenty two figures.
Speaker 2: But okay, the time most.
Speaker 4: Populous countries are China, India, USA, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bangladesh, Russia, Mexico.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Pakistan something only that broke off from India
Speaker 2: and what like nineteen fifty four, something like that.
Speaker 4: Something.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, again, the history, I know, I've
Speaker 2: read it, but I don't recall it takes get back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just found a new list that says in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. That list I gave you before was
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Twenty twenty six, India has taken an
Speaker 4: over China for the number thirty two million people. So
Speaker 4: there's one billion, four hundred and forty seven million, seven
Speaker 4: hundred and forty seven thousand, nine hundred and thirty two
Speaker 4: people in India and in China. Second, we're third. We've
Speaker 4: only got three hundred and forty four million. So you
Speaker 4: got India and China. Between the two of them, you've
Speaker 4: got almost three billion people.
Speaker 2: Right, so you know ten times if India and China
Speaker 2: a lie, you've got ten times the everything as far
Speaker 2: as people go. Yeah, well that's why I wasn't crazy
Speaker 2: per seeing maybe India. Right, Oh, well, what's what's the
Speaker 2: age of our population?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead and be PIZEZ.
Speaker 4: Sorry the a the average age?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that what you're asking?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Because he was saying this population.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Which, by the way, we're about to enter the
Speaker 2: last eight minutes here of our broadcast time, so you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to spin off into any more subjects
Speaker 2: because I want to give everybody a chance to, you know,
Speaker 2: speak their piece at the end here. But go go
Speaker 2: ahead and answer that if you got it in front
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 4: The median age in the United States is thirty eight
Speaker 4: point seven years.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're not an elderly population. We're kind of
Speaker 2: approaching middle age.
Speaker 7: No no, no, no, no, no, not China and Indy,
Speaker 7: China in particular.
Speaker 1: I'm elderly.
Speaker 2: Oh excuse me, I thought b Pete said he gave
Speaker 2: that thirty eight point seven for US. Did you give
Speaker 2: that for the US or was that for someone?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Son?
Speaker 2: No wrong number? Okay, I did not.
Speaker 4: How could I look up the wrong number? I think
Speaker 4: Indian agent the United States is thirty years to lives
Speaker 4: of this year.
Speaker 2: I think he was going to get there. I think, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: what what was What is the age of median age
Speaker 2: in China and India? Then, just out of curiosity, so
Speaker 2: we can compare them, because thirty eight point seven is
Speaker 2: the US.
Speaker 4: Yeah, China is forty point six years is the median age,
Speaker 4: and in India it is is yeah, twenty nine point
Speaker 4: two years.
Speaker 2: WHOA, So India is way younger country than US. Yeah,
Speaker 2: China's a little bit older than us, according to what
Speaker 2: you're reading. Okay, listen, I don't know these things for sure. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm trusting what you're reading. Uh, but the point is,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 7: India, in India, tell us the trips because they don't
Speaker 7: have restrictions and huh stuff have reproduction. China's lying their
Speaker 7: asses off. Their average age is in the sixties.
Speaker 2: Well see that's the other thing is no, no median okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: the median okay, but.
Speaker 4: Looking at median age, not average age.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well either way, you know what, We could sit
Speaker 2: here and break down these statistics, probably for the next hour,
Speaker 2: but we ain't got an hour. So I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what we'll do. We'll give each of our callers a
Speaker 2: you know, final word for the week and then I'll
Speaker 2: give it over to you be Pete, and then we'll
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 1: So why don't you start, Jimmy, all our shooter's actually
Speaker 1: going to be the rest of the shows far as
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, because I just assume that end.
Speaker 7: The show if he's not actually going.
Speaker 2: To do a soo no I have I'm waiting to
Speaker 2: produce that show.
Speaker 15: Indeed.
Speaker 7: Then and then I just I'll shout out to the
Speaker 7: Southern Poverty Center.
Speaker 15: Which, due to low demand because there are no white
Speaker 15: racist in America in the last fifty sixty years, if
Speaker 15: any significance have been making.
Speaker 7: Oh, that's very innovative way to go.
Speaker 15: I hope they get everything that they could deserve.
Speaker 2: Peace, peace, Jimmy. I'll tell you what. As far as
Speaker 2: the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, I'm just glad
Speaker 2: I didn't make it on their hit list for broadcasters
Speaker 2: about ten twelve years ago, because a lot of my
Speaker 2: friends were on there as you know, racial provocateurs, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't understand why, and I thought I was in
Speaker 2: danger of getting named there as well. But you know what,
Speaker 2: I didn't get hit by them at all. Oddly, I
Speaker 2: got hit by other liberal factions, but not them. But
Speaker 2: they went after people like even Jack Blood by name,
Speaker 2: which was pretty weird, and I was working with him
Speaker 2: at the time, but you know, I was working with
Speaker 2: others too that they were claiming were, you know, all
Speaker 2: kinds of fascists and white supremacists, and it wasn't true.
Speaker 2: I couldn't figure it out, honestly, And they were going
Speaker 2: after us with the whole broadcast online stuff that they
Speaker 2: were so afraid of, which now is obsolete. But anyway,
Speaker 2: you know, stay tuned to your serious radios out there. Danny.
Speaker 2: You got a final word for the week.
Speaker 9: A couple of thoughts. You know, Israel's been, you know,
Speaker 9: like I said, the reason they have mixes because we
Speaker 9: allowed them.
Speaker 4: You know. The other thing too, is I want to I.
Speaker 9: Was thinking about the whole population thing. I could think
Speaker 9: to the the nineteen seventies great anthropolitical satirist Archie Bunter.
Speaker 9: You know, he got asked the fear a lot, the
Speaker 9: theosophical question of Who's God's favorite people, and he said,
Speaker 9: of course the Chinese. He made more of them, but
Speaker 9: it's obviously the Indians have replaced them.
Speaker 4: So I wish everybody a great week.
Speaker 2: There you go, Danny, and appreciate hearing from you. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Jimmy James as well, hearing from him. Definitely
Speaker 2: an interesting topic. Bunch of topics actually that came up
Speaker 2: kind of rapid fire at the end. But be pete.
Speaker 2: The final word for this week is going to go
Speaker 2: to you because we actually have a moment or two
Speaker 2: before I got to go jump on and start producing
Speaker 2: Aaron show. So what's your final thought for the week.
Speaker 10: Well, I appreciate Danny and Jimmy calling in and as usual,
Speaker 10: go to a Chilly dot com hit the donate button.
Speaker 10: Every little bit helps, although we got over the big hump.
Speaker 4: Other than that, you know, if you know people have
Speaker 4: them call in, we need to you know, let's expand
Speaker 4: this group. See if we can't get some more people
Speaker 4: to participate on Friday nights and uh yeah, absolutely. Other
Speaker 4: than that, you know, we've got a whole week of
Speaker 4: news coming up. The news about the SPLC this last
Speaker 4: week was kind of surprising to some people. To others
Speaker 4: years ago, they knew what was going on. That's what
Speaker 4: amazes me. And the media, you know, has pretty much
Speaker 4: kind of poo pooed the whole idea. Oh that can't
Speaker 4: be so. Well, you know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 4: that's had their head in the sands over the past
Speaker 4: fifteen twenty years, yep, and it's time they pull their
Speaker 4: heads out and start paying attention to what's going on.
Speaker 4: And if nothing else, this should prove to some people
Speaker 4: that doubt there's a whole lot that goes on behind
Speaker 4: the scenes that you don't know. And I have a
Speaker 4: feeling within the next year we're going to see more
Speaker 4: and more of this stuff come out. And it's about
Speaker 4: damn time.
Speaker 2: Well you know, things there you have it, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: and things that are done in the darkness do need
Speaker 2: to come to the light. This is how we get
Speaker 2: to the truth. And uh, look, I'm more than happy
Speaker 2: to see that because the SPLC, I mean, I could
Speaker 2: not fathom. I understood their intent upon founding, but you know,
Speaker 2: they strayed from it as per usual. Look, there's a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of organizations that you thought had, you know,
Speaker 2: sort of righteous intentions and it turns out not so much. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know so, and that's one of those things that
Speaker 2: I saw with them a lot.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 2: And like I said, they're weird attacks on the media there,
Speaker 2: there's strange targeting of certain individuals. I mean, there is
Speaker 2: a whole array of things, and I bet it can
Speaker 2: be brought out into the light and I'd love to
Speaker 2: see it all come out.
Speaker 4: As for you, I think it's all going to come out.
Speaker 4: I think in the next in the next couple of months,
Speaker 4: we're going to see exactly how bad it was. It
Speaker 4: started out with you know, hey, they funded the Unite
Speaker 4: the Right uh thing in Charlottesville, and we saw how
Speaker 4: that blew up, and that's been you know, hounding people
Speaker 4: on the right side of things ever since it happened. Well,
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see a lot more of
Speaker 4: this stuff come out and who is funding who and
Speaker 4: where the money's coming from. Just think about it. Wait
Speaker 4: until they start digging into George Soros and his Time Foundation.
Speaker 4: You know, look at what we found out with doge
Speaker 4: all of these NGOs that are befund that have been
Speaker 4: funded by government money, where people set these things up
Speaker 4: and they're paying themselves three hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 4: And now we see on Twitter that oh so and
Speaker 4: so lost her job a year ago and she can
Speaker 4: only get a nineteen dollars an hour job. Well, she
Speaker 4: was making two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars ripping
Speaker 4: off the damn government. I have no sympathy for someone
Speaker 4: like that. Well, i'll tell you, we'll see more of
Speaker 4: these things come into the light.
Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you this. I don't necessarily agree with
Speaker 2: everything you just said. But here's the thing. The idea
Speaker 2: that the government you know, funds these opposition groups and
Speaker 2: puts controlled opposition out there. Uh you know, yeah, guess
Speaker 2: what all the time? Uh, and yeah, keep your eyes
Speaker 2: out for that, the controlled opposition, the provocateurs that somehow
Speaker 2: get funded. Uh, you know, there's all a lot to
Speaker 2: be learned. And guess what, I find it on all sides.
Speaker 2: But you can find it in any corner you want.
Speaker 2: It's just there. So anyway, I leave it at that.
Speaker 2: I got to get to the age of transitions. I
Speaker 2: hope you guys enjoyed this one. And as per usual,
Speaker 2: it's not really about me when it's on Friday night,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm willing to have the conversation and
Speaker 2: let's learn something together. I'd love to hear more ideas
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