Speaker 1: Following God is meant to be the greatest superpower. If
you are listening to culture, if you're listening to you
know current thought processes as a source of truth as
a guide for you. Your compass is broken and you're
gonna end up in the wrong place.
Speaker 2: That's impossible.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I believe. What's your weakness
is not your technique.
Speaker 2: Don't think you know.
Speaker 1: The Impossible Life podcast. I mean you're sitting on a
winning lot of.
Speaker 2: Second an idea that is fully formed, fully understood, that sticks.
Speaker 1: This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I
are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is
that nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible as
an excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit of
impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been
done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell
you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified.
Impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling
to take a risk. The real truth is this. The
solution to any impossible task starts with this question, if
I had to what would it take what would it take?
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life podcast. I'm
your co host, Nick Surface, and I'm looking across a
aman so productive. On his last day off, he accidentally
built a business, read three books, and drank twelve diet
cokes just because they were there. That's right, friends, the
Phoeo AVC Garrett uncle back, a man who does more
on a rest day than most people do in a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't drink a dozen diet cokes a whole pack
of diet costs on your day off.
Speaker 1: And what are you doing? Dude?
Speaker 2: You have taken to the diet cokes. And it amuses
me no end because there was a time when we
start this podcast where you were very anti diet coke
and now you are just you know, smoking them like
people smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 1: I would not say that is exactly accurate.
Speaker 2: No, it's not accurate at all, But in my mind
it's funny, and so I'm just gonna say that that
the difference is you would never see one.
Speaker 1: Now that's a source of truth on this podcast. It
thinks it's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's good enough for that, you know, great.
I laugh every time I write these. So anyways, I'm
glad one of us is still having fun. Gee, I
think you're having fun too. Okay, anyways, so today's episode,
g We're gonna get on like today we're gonna we're
gonna lay bare one of the weakest quote unquote pieces
of wisdom I'm going to end in society today. Bible
talks about the difference between God's wisdom and the world's wisdom. Yeah,
and we're going to go ahead and give you some
godly wisdom today that I hope is a I hope
it really shifts people because there's this weakness in society
called burnout, where it's like, oh, man, you know, the
modern man, there's so much that's expect it of me.
You know, now I've got to be a dad. I've
got to provide. It's so much harder. I think about
those guys we interviewed on the beach in San Diego,
and they're like, it's so much harder today to be alive.
Like houses are more expensive, like things are more expected.
I was like, dude, you can door dash a meal
to your front door, like two hundred years ago. If
you weren't a farmer, you know, you're in trouble. Like
now you can just literally lay around all day and
text somebody and food shows. But Nick, it's so hard, right, well,
so hard? Yeah, Well, you know there's so many demands.
You know that our food is not as good expensive,
right yeah, Like I mean taxes are right, Yeah, there's expense.
And I have my car, right but I and I
hope you guys are getting I have to take care
of my car, right, I mean there's just like I'm
supposed to do all this I'm supposed to do all
this stuff, and I'm supposed to be in great shape,
and then I'm supposed to like do you know still
be great for my kids and my wife? Like you
know what about like what about downtime? Like man in
work is like they're expecting more from work. This is
like the stuff that goes through people's head. And it
sounds like shouldn't we have this ai utopian society g
where we all just get like it solves all our problems, right,
like let's get let's get agi in place so that
we can have food is easier. We have this utopian
society and we can all just like spend time together
because that's really what the purpose of our lives are
and I can hope you I hope you sense that
we're mocking that, and we're going to dive into We're
one hundred percent we are. We're going to dive into
that because there's a Please don't switch off if you're like, oh,
I don't I don't need to hear someone tell me
I need to work harder. We're not that this that's
this is not the just work harder podcast, although there
will definitely be an element of what you're capable of
being shifted so that you know that you can do more.
Speaker 1: Look, the people who listen to this podcast are the
people who decided they want to become everything God's created
them to be. If you don't want that, this isn't
the right podcast for one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: You can go find five hundred other ones that will
tell you that you're just fine as you are.
Speaker 1: Find go find a nice self help podcast.
Speaker 2: God is in the transformation business, so g like, you
know what's interesting? So I I this is something I
never really thought of until Ray Dalio talked about over time.
I'm the productivity curve of a human increasing. And if
you don't know this concept, think about like I remember
when I got my first iPhone and I was like,
oh my gosh, I can email, text, take notes, update Twitter,
and check social media. And I'm like, not on a computer,
I can do this everywhere. I remember like having this
explosion of I've always connected. I mean it literally, like
the first month I had a smart like an iPhone,
I could not believe how much I could do. Right now,
rewind hundreds of years ago, in before seventeen fifty eighty
to ninety percent of people's like jobs, like, hey, what
do you do well, I'm in agriculture. Oh, me too, right,
because if you didn't, you didn't really live right. You
had to farm, you had to do all these things. Now,
then suddenly we get the Industrial Revolution. You start doing
all the farming and stuff that you were doing with
big machines. Then you start to get into the process area.
This is Henry Ford. You start standardizing processes and becoming
even more efficient of like how can we mass produce things?
Things start becoming more centralized. You then fast forward to
like the fifty sixty seven, things start becoming more corporate
than you start throwing in technology, mean that what's happening
all the time. Things that used to be repeated. Tasks
that used to take a certain amount of time take
less and less and less time. What's happening with AI
right now? G Well, I used to have to search
through all these notes. I'm a legal clerk. It used
to take and we're gonna need three weeks for discovery.
Oh yeah, Now we can ingest that in a couple
hours because we can just upload all the docks and
off we go. Oh man, so our productivity curve of
an average human is going up massively now. Fortunately we
have this thing called a GDP, which is a gross
domestic product in the United States. The gross domestic product
of the United States from eighteen twenty five to twenty
twenty five has only increased a mere eighteen hundred times.
In eighteen twenty five, it was fifteen billion dollars that
was the gross domestic product of the US. The population
was obviously a lot smaller. In twenty twenty five it
was twenty eight trillion, which is just insane. So it's
eighteen a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. Like a trillion
is like not a number that I think people can relave.
Speaker 1: Think of money. I always think of the scene in
Austin Powers where doctor Evil.
Speaker 2: Comes back and is like one million, Yeah, like that's
not really life. They all start laughing. He's like, sorry,
one bear, Yeah, that's not a lot of money exactly.
Oh right, yeah, And it's funny that you say that,
but like, like think about that, how much that's grown
for the country, and you go, okay, well that's the country.
There was also you know, population growth. Well, let's go
ahead and do GDP per capita, which is this is
what is the output of a person how much value
they produce. In eighteen twenty five it was one point
two thousand, so twelve hundred bucks per person. In twenty
twenty five it's eighty two thousand per person, which is
sixty five to seventy x increase per person, right, And
I'm trying to give a quantifiable number because I want
people to think about that in two hundred years. If
I could go back to a human eighteen twenty five
and say two hundredyears now, you'll be seventy times more productive.
That's that is a mind boggling amount of productivity increase.
And I think we're in the process of a wave
of massive increase of that yet again, where it's going
to continue to increase. Why am I sharing this because
there are like there are more demands on you now,
but there's also a lot more resource available to you.
What we're able to do now is more and more.
And what we want to encourage you is like, look,
we're giving you physical numbers showing that this is happening regardless,
but like there's an intention, there's a God given growth
in you that's like you can do more. Like you're
made to be a son of God in the earth.
You're made to be one who puts points on the
board in all areas, who literally displays God's glory in
all areas. It's not like, hey, I got it right
in four out of eight, so that's pretty good. Like
the Impossible Life podcast is when we break it down
for people when we go through this in the Purpose Playbook,
we look at every area of life when we go
here's how you're going to win, and you're going to
win by doing it God's way, by reflecting His glory,
which is all his goodness, and by truly like displaying
how great God is. So I don't like we're not
trying to create guys who read their Bible a little
bit more or do a few more pushups. We're trying
to create guys that in every single area of life,
they are just absolutely crushing it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean, truly, It's what this entire
podcast is about. It's what I'm talking about at Mighty
Men all the Time for those of you who attend
or those who listen, is really like I want people
to get this perspective. We're not meant to be just
like Christianity doesn't exist to govern our behavior. Correct. I
say that a Mighty Men all the time. Following God
is not a behavioral improvement program. It is truly the
greatest superpower that you can have is following God. It
gives you purpose, It gives you meaning, It gives you strength,
it gives you peace, It gives you all the things
you need in the most difficult times in your life,
and it helps you make sure that you're living your
life for the right reason and pursuing the right things.
People run into you know, really, you could oversimplify the
challenges and problems that people run into their run into
in their lives. Right, they go down the wrong roads.
Bible will help you with that. Not go down the
wrong road and then or they go down the right road,
but they do it with the wrong resources, they didn't
estimate appropriately. They make mistakes, wrong decisions along the way,
and they fail or they quit. And the Bible helps
you overcome that as well. Following God is meant to
be the greatest superpower. If you are listening to culture,
if you're listening to you know, current thought processes as
a source of truth, as a guide for you, your
compass is broken and you're gonna end up in the
wrong place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's one of the things that bothered
you from the very beginnings. You're like, the vision of
the impossible life is to change the perception.
Speaker 1: Of what it shifts the mindset of what it means
to be a godly man.
Speaker 2: Because because it bothered you from a young and I
had the same thing. Why is Ned Flanders the emoji
for being a Christian? Oh, super nice guy? A kind
of a wiss you know what I mean, Like, doesn't
really know how to do anything, oddly ripped on that
show for whatever reason. I don't know why they gave
him that, but like it's that whole thing that drives
a station wagon kind of a loser, And it's like,
are you kidding me. The guys we read about in
the Bible, the mighty men, the men of God, they
were going forward and they were standing up to world powers.
They were the dudes like fighting battles. I think about Caleb,
He's eighty four years old.
Speaker 1: Paul is the one who was basically like all y'all
versus me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well dude, and way before him, Caleb is eighty
four years old being like, Hey, I want that city.
Can you give it to me? Guess what giving it
to him?
Speaker 1: Men?
Speaker 2: Oh, you can go up and kill the giants that
own it. He's like, thanks, I just want to make
sure I had the right to kill them at eighty four.
Let's go man like this this is this ke you sir?
Speaker 1: May I have another? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, Like I look at that and I'm like, that
is how I want to age, like that, like, let's
slay giants till the day we die. So so I
really want, like you need to understand this is a
wholly and divine thing that you have that perspective of
what a man of God is. Like you said that
you're the one that walks into place and you're like,
don't worry, there's a man of God. Here, everything's going
to be okay, be the one that we just talked
about that we did. All right, So gee, burnout? You know, man,
like we often define an allergic reaction to this phrase.
So just pause for a second while my vombit okay,
all right, and we're back. Garrett just hurled in the
in the He didn't really, but if you see him
twitching on camera you'll know why. But but burnout, man,
we often define this and we did not source. I
don't think I think this existed in eighteen twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I just want to, you know, just say this upfront.
My thought process and reaction to burnout is not don't
misunderstand me. Those of you who are new, haven't listened
to a bunch of episodes, don't really know me yet.
This is not a Navy seal, you know, David Goggins
approach to burnout. That's not what it's about. There's so
much more than just like you need to be tougher,
you need to be harder.
Speaker 2: That's not what we're saying, right, but burnout What burnout
really is when you boil it down. Because I was,
I kept pushing like, hey, we need a definition. You
talk and we'd write. You know, we got a lot
of notes out of that. But like, burnout is really
you giving yourself an excuse to quit at the end.
Like that's what it boils down to. And you perfectly
coined the voice of burnout.
Speaker 1: Well this is yeah. I mean you got to think
about what burnout is. People talk about it all the time.
They don't like their their jobs hard, their marriage is hard,
life is just hard. Like I'm feeling like people don't
even define define burnout. It's this stupid cultural idea of
you know, in corporate society, of like, well, you know,
maybe I should just get another there's a better job
that's easier for me. And really that's what people are saying,
like there's a there must be an easier way, right,
And that's a dangerous thought process. But really the voice
of hard And we talk about thought patterns on this
show a lot, and you've got to we just did
an episode recently, unplay the tape, right, you just got
to understand when you let a thought pattern in, when
you start sowing these seeds, where's it going to take you? Okay?
And the original seed of burnout doesn't seem that harmful,
doesn't seem that dangerous. It starts with you saying, oh,
this is hard, right, like, oh, man, like forty hours
a week, fifty hours a week my job, Like oh,
it's you know, I have to do a lot of
meetings to do a lot of work, Like I have
to I have homework, I have to you know, go
home and answer emails or like, man, raising kids is
just hard, like it's a lot of time, Like they
always want my attention, whatever it is, whatever that voice is,
you know, I don't need to give it to you
because you hear it all the time. Right. But it
starts with this is hard, and then it progresses into well, man,
this is harder than I thought it would be, which
reverts back to we're gonna come back to this in
a second, which reverts back to an initial expectation that
you had. But it goes from this is hard to well,
this is harder than I thought it was going to be. Like,
you know, I knew kids would be hard, didn't know
it would be this hard. I knew my job would
be hard and would man, I knew everybody says starting
a business is hard. I didn't know it was going
to be like this, Okay, and that that's that's where
hard heart is just a part of life. But as
soon as you start talking about this is harder than
I thought it would be, you're you're you're starting to
point in the wrong direction. Because what that turns into
this is harder than I thought it would be. Is
you play you that tape for long enough, you listen
to that thought track for long enough, Well, what it
turns into is, well, I don't know if I want
to do this anymore because it's harder than I thought
it was going to be. So I don't know if
I want to do this anymore. And which, again we'll
come back to this in a second. It's a wrong
presupposition in the expectation that you chose a path based
upon your estimation of how difficult it would be. We'll
come back to that, right, But it's you saying, well,
I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
Then it turns into one of the most dangerous phrases,
which is like this is drinking the poison that turns
into your death and the debt and death. And this
context is you quitting, right, I don't want to do
this turns in anymore, turns into this isn't worth doing anymore.
And as soon as you're having those those thought processes,
it's stage four cancer. You better like repent and get
treatment immediately or you will die very soon, or you'll
quit very soon because this isn't worth doing anymore. It
turns into well, I'm not going to do this anymore
and I quit. And lot of people, maybe for some
of you, your first response this as well, like well,
burnout is you know, a natural reaction to like I
just need to get a different job, or I need
to change my situation. Maybe maybe you're doing some of
the wrong things, and we talk about that on the show,
and we'll talk about some of that today. But really
what burnout is is it turns into you looking at
your situation and saying, well, I just want it to
be easier. And if that is the course that you're on,
you're living wrong and you're going to make the wrong
it's going down the wrong road. Or if you are
going down the right road and you're getting burnout, you
are you're not looking at the end of the road,
you don't have the right vision for what you're doing,
and you're going to quit when you are going down
the right direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you really have to have the awareness of
because like Garrett said, like I just wanted it to
be easier, that'll sound like it should be a better way,
work harder or not, or work smarter or not hard.
There's lots of really cool, like somewhat wise sounding things
that don't make it sound like you're quitting. And I
want you to understand, like one of the reasons why
Garrett's talking about how yes the vomit for burnout. This
has been revelatory to me from our friend talking about
how he viewed porn that when it once he realized
how bad it was, he no longer desired it, whereas
before when he still thought of it as ingestible.
Speaker 1: It is a The reason that you're exactly right, Nick,
the reason I find burnout repulsive is because, look, this
is a here's a here's a take, a hot take
for Garrett. Okay, so there's people that disagree with this,
and if this is not a heaven or Hell issues,
it's not a right or wrong issue. This is just
my own opinion. Okay, some people don't agree with this personally,
I'm not we're talking about porn here for a second,
we're gonna talk about porn as it relates to burnout
and why I find both both of these things bother me,
or the attitude is it relates to porn. One of
the things I really don't like is there's a lot
of different processes and softwares and stuff that do it.
But the things like covenant eyes, which are like, well, hey,
just protect me, like make porn not an option for me,
right right, Like I can't control myself. I need something
to control me for me. And you know, you could
say that's a version of rehab, and rehab's important, right
if you have a drug addiction, like you need to
go to rehab. You need to get cleansed and you know,
reset your body so that you can get back to
living life the way that you're supposed to live. I
understand that caveat there. But the reason that the like
the total attitude in church towards porn bothers me is
because the attitude is like, well, man, this is hard.
This is really difficult to manage, right, Like I just
have all these lusts and appetites and just like man
as a man, dealing with porn is really hard. That
is a week And I would say borderline spiritually homosexual mentality.
That is so wrong to me. Here's the right man
masculine response to porn. That's evil and we must destroy it. Right,
The fact that porn exists in our society today is
the biggest I would say, just shadow and frown hanging
over masculiney today that we even let this be come
into existence. Right, that's the weakness that's in our culture,
not our inability to deal with it, that we let
it become a thing, that we let it exist. This
is you know, you can parallel and we're not going
to go down this road today. So there's plenty of
other people that talk about this on YouTube, but it
is parallel to the downfall of realme. Right, we have
allowed these things in our culture and the right masculine
response to it is that's evil. And so what what
Nick is talking about, as we have a friend and
we've talked about this on the show and I've tried
to help people think about porn in this way, is
like you have to look at this thing not as
like man, it's really hard to resist. Is that's evil
and I hate this thing and I'm not going to
let this thing that wants to destroy me and kill me, skies,
it disguise itself and cloak itself as something that I
would enjoy, because that is the devil's poison. He will
sell you sugar and what you're drinking is poison you. Oh,
this is man, This would be so enjoyable. This is
going to kill you. And you have to look at
it from a warrior's perspective of like, how does how
does a warrior respond to these things that want to
to destroy it? You must kill evil? And so that
like that mentality, it's the feminized church mentality today. And
I'm just calling it what it is, the feminized church
mentality today the way that it looks at and addresses porn.
And I'm not saying that the church is evil or
wrong in that, I'm saying it's a couple steps off
in the wrong direction, and men have to step back
in and address porn in that right way. That's a
parallel thought process to what I'm talking about today with
the mindset as it relates to burnout. Right, you looking
at your life in this context of well, it's harder
than I thought it would be. That's the presupposition that
your life is meant to be comfortable. It's the wrong presupposition,
it's the wrong expectation. You need to measure your life
through this, not like what gets me to retirement, not
what would be a good life. So it's all the
wrong definitions. The right life that you should be pursuing
is what is the most meaningful life? What is the
life that God designed me for? What's the life that
God purposed me for? So, burnout and instead of measuring
your life on man, how could I make this easier?
You should be measuring your life on what is right,
what's meaningful? And two Timothy chapter four, verse seven. This
is here's your anti burnout scripture. Okay, this is how
you want to get to the end of your life.
Cause burnout is looking at this life pattern, this thought pattern,
this journey of well. At some point I should be
able to enjoy myself. At some point I should be
able to retire. At some point I should be able
to have ease. Wrong, it's wrong. It's not the right
way to live your life. The life that you want
to live. Is Paul speaking in Timothy two Timothy chapter four,
verse seven. I have fought the good fight. I have
finished the race. Okay, that's like that's the headline. But
here's the substance. The substance is, this is what he
says at the end of that verse. I have kept
the faith. That's what the meaning of your life is.
That's a good life. You got to the end of
your life and you hear, well done, good and faithful servant.
I have lived going down the right path. Not is
it hard? I don't care if it's hard. I want
to make sure I'm doing the right thing. I want
to I want to fight evil. I want to live
for God. I'm not going to cry and say, man,
this is harder than I thought it should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I so appreciate you giving that perspective because I
think that that's I want people to understand why you
have the reaction to it that you do, because quitting
is like the weakest thing. Would you if someone said
to you, Hay, do you want to be weak? I
don't think anybody be like, yeah, I do. But we
don't see it that way.
Speaker 1: Well, when I and I have I have care for
it and I have love for it. When I and
maybe you don't hear that right now, but when I
hear people talk about burnout, just so know the love
is why I do the show because I really care
and I really want to help people change the way
that they think. Nobody wants to be weak. Nobody wakes
up one dances and I want to blow up my marriage.
I want to be four hundred pounds. I want to
be whatever. Nobody says that. But we end up in
these places. And it's not so much that you just
are a horrible person and made horrible decisions. Yes, we're sinful,
but the problem is you let some of the wrong
thought processes in right. And so again, my care for
men who have, you know, unfortunately accepted this burnout mentality
is it's not just that I think it's weakness, but
where I have care for it is because when a
man says this to me that he's dealing with burnout,
not only do I know that you're weak, but what
I know is that you have the wrong view of life.
And that's what I care for. If when you get
the right view of life, you'll become strong. I've seen
it hundreds of times. I don't have to navy see'll
beat you up to make you a tough guy. I
got to get you looking at the right thing. And
when you have a relationship with the creator of the universe.
When you know the plans and the purposes that he
has for your life, when you know that the fact
that you have breath and your lungs means that he
has a great plan for you. When you know these things,
you will do a lot more than just overcome being
a soft soy boy.
Speaker 2: And that's really I mean, it's wrong beliefs is what
you're saying right underneath all this, And I don't know that.
Like one of the things that that we do on
the show all the time, we've covered it on biblical masculinity,
but we talk about like there's things in the Bible
scripturally that you have to go like, Okay, Lord, you
made me. This is true.
Speaker 1: Check.
Speaker 2: God made you to work Genesis two fifteen. God made
you to be strong, multiple scriptures. Be strong, act like man.
God made you to lead. He created men first, gave
him the vision. He made you to protect. I think
it's in Micah too, he talks about like you did
misunderstood that you're supposed to protect the wife or your youth.
You're made to provide.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: These are things that are one.
Speaker 1: Hundred Nick is giving truth right now to try and
set the correct foundation. If you're still with us at
this point, let me just again give you a perspective
shift that will help you, because if you're with us,
and this is something that maybe you're like half with us,
thinking about turning this episode off because I don't like
the way Gareth's talking to me today about what I
think is a practical reality of feeling burnout in my
job or burnout in my life or whatever it is.
We've all felt it. It doesn't make you a wrong person.
But we're trying to live to be the best that
we're called to be. And so Nick's given some foundations.
Let me give you just a little perspective shift on
the way that you look out at burnout. It has
to come from this place where you're saying, I want
everything that God's created me to be. If you are
just thinking about, you know, how do I get to retirement,
how do I you know, live a life of ease?
It is going down the wrong road. And so what
we want most for you is that you're going to
get to the end of your life and hear, well done,
good and faithful servant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this is I feel like this is like
the kill weakness episode because because ultimately, because ultimately you
know what's you know what's weak. I think it's you guys.
You and your dad have been such a blessing to
me because you you call like I can hear your
dad's voice that's weak, and like when I hear that,
I'm like, Okay, whatever he's saying, I'm going to do
the opposite and praise God for a father voice like
that to call out things that are weak, because you
know it's weak, being selfish, being prideful, you know, quitting.
These are things that it's like weak, weakness and burnout
leads right to all those.
Speaker 1: But you're you're given some truth, and let me just
give this perspective shift, right. The perspective shift is this, Okay, Nick,
this is one of my tools, right to look at things.
How do I look at things from the right view?
Sometimes I'll take things to the absolute extreme because if
it's true, it's true. If it's true here, it's true
at the north pole. Right. But so when you take
things to extremes and if they break in the extremes
and you realize it's not truth, it's method. It's a system, right, right,
But systems work in a certain set of criteria, right,
Like even your vehicle works at this temperature, it doesn't
work at certain temperatures. Like things that are true, they're
always true. Okay, and so burnout maybe you've lived by
this truth of burnout. Well it's not true. Let me
give you an example, Like burnout is you saying this
isn't worth doing anymore, which started from a seed of
this is hard, right, Okay, If I flip that on
its head, what I can prove to you is that
it doesn't matter how hard it is. You can look
at something and say this is worth doing, This is
worth pursuing, this is meaningful. And if I can prove
that to you, then it means that that burnout is
not true. Burnout's a broken system that you've fallen into.
And so let me give you this perspective shift that
flips that on its head. Okay. This is what I
use with guys, and you know I'm personal and one
on one conversations I share with them. I say, you know,
people who come to me talking about burnout, I say, well,
let's just go to an extreme environment really quick. What
if you know your family is trapped, Your family is
trapped and you're the only one that can save them. Right,
If you don't do something, your whole family is going
to die. And just think of something extreme like climb
Mount Everest or run a thousand miles or just something
extremely extreme of like that's insanely hard along that journey.
Do you think there's any point where I'd come to
you and you'd be like, man, this is just what's
a lot harder than I thought it would be, and
I don't know if this is worth doing anymore now, Yeah,
it's probably harder than you thought it would be. You've
never run a thousand miles before, you probably not climb
Mount Everest. But at no point are you going to
look at that and be like, well, you know, I
really wanted to save my family, but five hundred miles
was the limit for me at five ozho one just
not worth saving my family anymore. No, Because you know
it's right. If you're a real man, you'd give your
life for your family, and so you're you know what,
the only right attitude to having that is, like, I
don't even know if I'm capable of running a thousand miles.
That sounds insane, but I'm just gonna keep putting one
foot in front of the other until I die or
my family's alive. Right, Well, that's it, right, there's no
burnout in that extreme situation. Okay, and that is extreme.
But what extremes do is extremes give you clarity. And
in that extreme it's like, yeah, I would die for that. Well,
we talk about that on this show a lot. The
things that you want to spend your life living for
should be the things that you are also worth dying for. Yeah,
And so burnout happens in this reality where you're living
for the wrong things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And what you talked about is a great level
of conviction. And when I was given those truths of
God made you to work. He made you to be strong,
and made you to lead, protect and provide. I hope
you spend time deeply considering these things. I mean, you
said that following God is a superpower, but it's following
God for real, right, It's not like, hey, I'll throw
some scripture on it. I read this Napoleon Hill book
that he used scripture, and so I guess God wants
me to make a bunch of money. Your level of
conviction is not strong on that when you've actually sat
there and you've held before the Lord, and guess what
you have to do. You have to seek. There's no chat,
GPT or AI solution to give me a level of
conviction in a in a you know, twenty minute sit down.
These are things that you have to work over in
your mind and consider these truths, because once you've seen
the man, you can't unseem that's right. Once you know them,
you can't unknow them, and you will run forever. I
remember whenever we were coaching and I said, what's the
measure of a man? You said that he would be
facing overwhelming obstacles like death and still be faithful all
the way to the end.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't exactly Well, that's exactly what it is.
It's two Timothy, Chapter four, verse seven. I have fought
the good fight. I have finished the race. He didn't
say I'm a champion, I had total victory, I won
every battle. He said, I fought the fight. I finished
the race, which means you fought all the way to
the end. And what is the what is the substance
of having finished the races? I kept the faith. That's
I maintain conviction all the way to the end. Doesn't
mean I won every battle. This is what a great
life is. Yeah, that you got focused on the right
thing and you ran as hard as you could and
you didn't say, oh man, this is harder than.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, so good. All right,
We're gonna give you two tools, one for the short
term and one for the long term to combat this.
But I do want to I do want to go
with one. I do want to raise one kind of
counterpoint g because somebody might be out there and be like, Okay, guys,
I hear you, like I'm actually accepting what you're saying.
I am getting fired up. But energy is still It's true.
Speaker 1: We live in physical bodies, correct, We have an infinite
spirit that God's given us. We serve an infinite God.
But my flesh has limits.
Speaker 2: For sure, very sure, Yeah, for sure it does. And
I think I think we were not.
Speaker 1: The point though, is and we'll talk about this, but
a lot of people, if that's your focus, if that's
your primary focus point is my flesh has limits, They're
going to become a lot smaller than you think.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: The way this is not the primary push of this episode.
It's really the secondary, but one of the takeaways you
need to have is also guys are telling me they
got burnt out. It's like, one, you might be running
the wrong race. Let's just talk about your life in
the context of like a race, like a half marathon, marathon,
ultra marathon, whatever it is. Maybe you're running the wrong race,
but you're probably running the right race and you're just
not thinking about it the right way. But also you're
telling me you got burnout on a marathon. And which
you also need to have is like some perspective of
like last week that was one of the biggest races
is the Coco Donna where these guys run or you know,
a woman want one, which which is really interesting thing
how women are like the elite athletes in ultra which
lands towards their physiology. Their physiology is meant for long
ULTRUNI it's a different episode. But anyways, looking at your
life in this context of like you're telling me you
got burnout on a marathon, you need a perspective shift
of like, dude, people run like one hundred and two
hundred miles. I'm not asking you to run a two
hundred millar message, just run your marathon and have a
good attitude running your marathon and give all that you
got right and if you quit, like man, twenty six
miles is a lot, but it's not one hundred miles,
and people are capable of running a hundred miles. I'm
gonna give all I got for twenty six. That's a
reframe for you. So just we're going to talk about
how energy is finite and how to manage a limited
flesh with an infinite spirit, with an infinite God that
he's given us a great purpose to serve. We're going
to talk about how to manage your flexh with this,
but also just understand maybe a little bit of perspective shift.
If it's not as hard as you think it is.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So first of all, you have to
realize you can you can do more changing your definition
of hard will. I was because I'm listening to all
our old episodes as part of the Basic Discipline training.
I was talking about how my definition of hard changed
that when I had I don't want to say dysentery,
but when I had a parasite after Costa Rica, all
I kept telling myself was at least I don't have
to run one hundred Buyer while I'm also ejecting my.
Speaker 1: Wife's eternal perspective shift is Louis Zamporini. Yeah right, and
that's we talked about. Nick knows what I'm talking about.
We talked about that a lot from the story of Unbroken.
She like, even when it's hard for her, she's like, well,
at least I'm not like being beaten and starved and
think I'm going to die and I eat out of
the same bowl that I you know, have dysentery into.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, when one of your best friends is the
navy seal, how can I come in back? Dude, I'm
a little tired and I only got five hours of
sleep last night. Like that, that is completely dead now,
And that's the power of perspective. So first of all,
you realize, okay, I'm making I'm telling myself a story
that's just that's very limited. But there is there's wisdom
to this. We've got great episodes on energy budget Go
look that up at.
Speaker 1: This just so you know, I don't you know, sleep
three hours every night?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, exactly, there's energy budgeting. I mean we're big
on whoop for example, understanding that every yes is a
note to something else and that things cost you more
than you think, so you need to learn to estimate
and have awareness. There's lots of practical wisdom that will
help you with the with the energy.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest things though, is attitude. It's why
it's one of my core values. Attitude determines your altitude. Okay,
And you're like, oh, that's a cheesy phrase. Whatever I've
lived my life by. That's working pretty good for me, Okay,
So catch some reframe here on attitude as it relates
to energy. If if I tell you right there, I
could do the same experience with people where it's like, hey,
come meet me at four thirty in the morning for
a Navy seal workout, and it's going to be physically hard. Now,
if you didn't want to do that and you got
forced to do it, at the end of that, after
the workout, you're gonna be like, oh, I just got
to like that was so mentally hard for me. It's
physically hard, but it was so mentally hard for me.
I need to like rest the rest of the day. Now.
There are other people who would drive across the country
and pay a lot of money for that experience, and
they would come out of that it'd be like a
two hour, two and a half hour workout. It's like
beat down of a workout and be six thirty or
seven in the morning after that, And there are people
who would have driven across the country and paid money
for that and after that experience like this is the
best day, Like what are we going to go to do?
Like again, yeah, yeah, this is amazing, same workout and
I don't want to say same flesh, but like I mean,
they're humans just like anybody else. But the attitude that
they had towards it. For some people, it took energy
out of them. For other people, it gave them energy.
And just understand the attitude that you have towards certain things.
I've had some days recently that it was a lot
of work for me. It was a lot of things
that would drain me. But because I'm so passionate about
to have so much conviction for what I'm doing. Like
I was telling Nick this story in the warm up
of how I had a day the other day where
it's like, I mean, just razy day and I didn't
realize how tired I was until the end of I
literally got in bed and it was like someone just
pulled my batteries out and I felt like my body
couldn't move. But I didn't feel that way all day
because I was so like just jacked up, excited about
what I was doing, and all day giving my fullest
best effort, proud of what I was doing, proud of
the performance I was having, and then at the end
of the day got in bed like, oh gosh, like
I just was unaware because I was so I had
so much conviction for us that I had had the right
attitude about it.
Speaker 2: What you were doing, yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: I believed in it, And so I just say that
to say, if your kids are making you tired, okay,
it's one of the greatest things you can do with
your life. Right, I get it. I got kids too. Okay,
Nick's got kids, and I got little kids. Nick has
won little I got three littles, and you can have that.
I was like, oh gosh, this is draining. Think differently
about it, have a different attitude, and it can give
you energy instead of de energize you.
Speaker 2: So good, all right, let's give them the let's give
them the two tools, g real quick. And I just
I want to just read this because you said this
so well. I said to you, Well, I'll just ask
you again, you could say, rather than me reading your
own words, I asked you the question when is it okay?
Like surely there's sometimes when it's okay to quit and
okay like it like to walk away? Like you talked
about how sometimes maybe you are doing the wrong things,
And I said, like, when is it actually okay to
walk away? Then if we're saying, like, hey, quitting is
the weakest thing you can do, which we are saying,
and we're talking about burnout, I said, what's the criteria
that somebody should use for when they should walk away
from something?
Speaker 1: Well, the I'll give you the wrong criteria, right, The
wrong criteria is you looking at a situation and saying,
like determining if you should keep going, about how hard
it is you have set yourself on the wrong course.
And I watched people do this and seal training. Right,
the I watched the best runner in our class, an
Olympic trialist athlete, quit on an unknown distance run. This
guy could outrun me on the worst day of his life. Yeah,
my best performance was not better than his best performance
his worst performance. It's crazy. That's not an exaggeration. I
made it that day and he didn't, which is it'll
baffle me for the rest of my life. It'll baffle
me in the power of mindset, right, And that's why
like I went in with mindset and I came out
with like, yeah, mindset is the way to go right,
Like athletic ability, genetics, talent, grit, these things are excellent.
Mindset trumps them all, right. The way you think about
your situation, I love that. And the reason the reason
this guy gave up is because not because it wasn't
because he couldn't do it, is because it became more
than he thought. And he had he had set out
on this journey and this is scripture, by the way,
right where thinking about like if if you estimate wrong
or start with the wrong estimation, you're going to fail
on any journey. And he had set out on this
journey not with is this the most meaningful thing? Right?
The right way is the look at your situation. Is
is this worth giving my life to? No? He said,
do I think I can? Like I think it's this
hard and I think I can do that, right, But
as soon as it becomes harder than you thought it
was gonna be, you're like, well, unknown territory here. I
should just quit. This is this is scary, this is dangerous. Yeah,
I did not expect what you said. Even though I
knew the answer, I didn't know you were gonna tell
that story. I am absolutely like jacked right now, because
you know what I love about that, Ge, There's some
people and I've got We've got friends. Physically, they're just
better than us. They got they got no truthfully for sure,
trust me, I live with that unfortunate reality all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our ceiling is nowhere near what there's is. And
that's just true. But you know what's great about mindset,
Nobody sets a limit on that except for you. Anybody
can tap into what you just said. They really love that.
As the scriptures say, the race is not to the swiftest. Yeah, man,
I love that, dude. I feel like we just turn off.
But let's let's give this to them quickly.
Speaker 1: Gee.
Speaker 2: The very first the instant fixed and we've given this
to them so much is vision. Garrett just gave you
so much perspective in this episode of how to think
about what you're doing, Like this is you leading yourself.
I do this morning, you do this in the morning.
What do you say to yourself first thing when you
wake up.
Speaker 1: Gee, I have a daily decoration. You can listen to it. Well,
the first thing I say is today's the day. Thank
you God for the breath and my lungs, which means
that you have a great plan for my life. Today's
the day that the Lord has made. I will rejoice
and be glad in it, for the joy Lord is
my strength, and I can do all things through Christ,
who strengthens me. I get up and I just start
saying positive things. And the things I just said are
some stuff I've been taught to say since I was
a little kid. Yeah, okay, but then I've also have
a daily declaration that I listen to now because we
have it recorded on the podcast. But it's something I
wrote out and that I say to myself. You got
to start yourself in the right direction. You got to
start with just these little kids. Why do I do that?
Why is it so important? Right? It's getting myself thinking
about the right things, because really the superpower, right, one
of the superpowers that overcomes burnout is vision. It's what
I've been talking about, is if you set out on
the wrong journey, folks, in the wrong direction, you're eventually
going to. But if you know, like man, this is
harder than I thought it was going to be. There's
way more obstacles here than I thought they were going
to be. But I can see where I'm going. I
know this is the right direction. I'm locked in. I
got mission focus, and even if this mission fails, I
have vision superiority in my life where I know what
matters most and I'm just gonna keep going no matter what.
Right that is a superpower. And what I'm doing with
daily declarations is I'm setting myself up with focusing on
the right things. God is a plan for my life.
I want what God has for my life. My day
is going to be excellent, my thinking is going to
be excellent.
Speaker 2: And we're not saying shout affirmations in the mirror. This
is any We can give this to you, and you
can do it right now. What Garrett just said, You
wake up, You remind yourself of what's true. You remind
yourself why today matters, and you be smart about this
look ahead at your day. I don't know that there's
anybody that's listening to this that's like, I have no
idea what I'm doing today. You know you're going to work,
you know you're going to have certain things. Can you
predict everything? No, but you can look ahead and say,
you know what God is with me. I'm there to
make a difference as a planning person for my life
and it's not about me. So I'm going to go
into every situation. I'm going to be a blessing. I'm
going to have a positive attitude. What are you doing.
You're giving vision to your day, You're giving purpose to
your day. You can do this instantly, and guess what
if you do it every single day? What do you
think your life's going to look like? Do you think
you're going to be coming back on like? Oh man,
I'm just feeling so burnt out. This is really hard. No,
you've told yourself beforehand. Anything that comes my way that's
an obstacle is an opportunity for me to grow. I
know that God makes all things work together for the
good of those who love Him and are called according
to his purpose. He loves me, right, I love him.
I'm called according to his purpose. So if it's hard,
it's something for me to learn.
Speaker 1: Now you're ready, and by the way, just real quick, right,
we're touching on these things because we've spent a lot
of time talking about them on other episodes. Sure, vision
and purpose, Right, you want to get your life focused
on the thing that is worth dying for today is
not where we're unpacking all of that. We're saying, when
you have these things, it's what helps you overcome burnout. Right,
If you have burnout, you have the wrong mindset, wrongpective,
or your focus on the wrong things. And we have
other episodes that you can go listen to to help
you understand how do I find my purpose? How do
I balance what's in my heart and what's in my hand?
What is the course to knowing what God's plan for
my life is. We have all of that, We just
can't do it all in one episode, or these episodes
would be ten hour episodes to unpack every single piece
along the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and but we just wanted, like you
can have vision instantly. The next one g which is
this the longer term, is resiliency.
Speaker 1: Man. Resiliency is the resiliency is one of the primary
primary we started this episode talking about following God is
a superpower. Okay, Resiliency is one of the primary superpowers
that comes from following God. And let me just you know,
before we get into like unpacking all this, let me
just give you the headline on what resiliency is by definition.
By definition, resiliency is the ability of a substance to
return to its original form. Yep. Right, Like you throw
a lot of cookie dough on the ground, it splats
zero resiliency, it becomes what's happened to it? Okay. The
reason and bouncy balls bounce really high is because if
you watched it and like high speed photography, you throw
this little rubber bouncy ball at the ground and it
like as it hits the ground, it spreads out like
a water cookie dough over a few milliseconds and then
very quickly returns to form, and that reaction makes it bounce,
you know, twenty thirty feet up in the air. Right,
It returns to form really quickly. And that where that
comes from is what's inside you is stronger than what's
outside of you. My experience of going through this in
seal training was I had a really difficult external force.
It's called buds. It's known as the hardest training in
the military. And I had instructors who were and other
forces in my life telling me you're not this, You're
not this, you're not that. And those were strong and
what some people would say true external forces. Some of
the things they told me were facts. But what the
way that I responded to that, and how I kept
going through that, how I maintained resiliency. But I said,
what you're saying may be true, but I know a
greater truth. Right I talked about I said, you may
be right, but I trust my dad more than I
trust to you. What my father told me about me.
He knows me way better than you know me. So
I'm going to listen to that instead of you. And
that's a really quick package. We could spend a lot
of time talking about that, but really quick package of
how resiliency is supposed to work. That what's inside of
you is stronger than what's outside of you. And if
you don't have a strong identity, if you don't know
who you are on the inside, you're not going to
have resiliency when hard things happen to you. You're going
to get splait, you're going to get crushed. And so
really that is the superpower of following God. And the
understanding of resiliency is that it comes through identity. It's
identity based recovery to any difficult situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good. And if you want deeper on that,
Episodes two and episodes eighty one are when we call
it resiliency in depth. But that really is the long
term and because identity takes a longer term to form,
that's why we say it's the longer term solution. But
you as, I love that, you always do g You said, well,
what are the people that hack identity? You said, there's
actors to make. They make one hard decision and they
just run.
Speaker 1: If you want to. Yeah, Nick's like, well, man, identity
is hard for people. It is, right. The greatest performance
I've seen of developing identity is actors do this right.
They like they take on a role. It's that I
have to become this person. And they do because every
day they get up in the morning, they work out
like that person, They read big books from that person's life.
They spend time with people who've been in that scenario.
They do everything they can for six months, for nine months.
Sometimes like extreme roles, these guys will spend a year
or two years preparing everything they do all day long.
They think about it, they talk about it, they eat it,
they spend time with it. It's all they do, and
six months a year down the road, they are the
greatest representation that the world's you know, Hollywood, for all
of it's evil, it doesn't know how to make illustrate
things really well. Yeah, and it becomes the greatest representation
of the embodiment of an idea or a person. That's
what an actor does. And I'm thinking of some of
the actors that I like who are so good at that.
They develop an identity. Now it's not based on truth,
but that is the identity development process. That's what's possible
for an identity. And if you don't want to take
the extreme actor method, then it just turns into a
journey for you. It's a very long hike of like, look,
I'm just gonna, I know what the right direction is.
I'm gonna keep going in this direction. I probably can't,
you know, go from having a weak man identity to
becoming a superpower, you know, Christian for God on the
earth in six months. But I'm just going to keep
going in that direction and you'll get there. It's just
gonna take you a little bit longer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So good, all right, man, We tore down weakness
that is burnout and so much of selfishness and pride
and everything that's in there. Gave you some tools. Garrett's
what's the what's the parting shot here?
Speaker 1: Man? Do not do not? You've got to have this
same reaction that I do. Right. It's one of the
things that Nick has taken away from me. He talks
about it. I love hearing it like he talks about
it in his family. It's what's what my dad gave
to me of Like my dad would say all the time,
like that's week, son, Like that's week. I wish you
could see yourself right now. And it's one of the
greatest perspectives I have is the way I look at
myself going through difficulty. I don't want to be something
like think about what you We've talked about attitude before
on the episode where we did just attitude, and the
definition of attitude is like a sculpture, Like what's the sculpture?
You know when you look at the sculpture of the
statue of David, that's his life, it's who he is.
It is a freeze frame of who he is. You
know what David was not. David was not burnout. When
you look at the statue of David, You're not like, man,
that guy really is feeling sorry for himself for sure, okay.
Or when you look at a person in a painting
attitude is like it's a freeze frame for you. And
think about taking your entire life and what would it
look like if someone painted you or someone sculpted a
statue of you. If you're someone who's like living your
life and burnout, you be embarrassed by what that statue
looks like. And so what I want you to have
the takeaway from today is begin to have some of
this you know, vomit reaction to the weakness that is burnout.
I'm not just beaten up burnout. What I'm beating up
is this diseased way of thinking that we've let ourselves
fall into that's taking us away from becoming everything that
God's created us to be. So I just hope that
what your reaction from today is there's so much more
in the show for you, so much more and the
impossible life for you. We want to help you become
what God's called you to be. But I just hope
your takeaway from today is that when these little thoughts
start coming in. Like we talk about where hard becomes.
It's harder than I thought, where it becomes I don't
know if this is meaningful anymore. That you respond to
that the same way we talked about responding to porn.
Not this is hard, not how do I manage it?
But that's evil. Thank you very much for listening.
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